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00:09 LemonLake does anyone know the name of that weird line that sometimes moves down?
00:09 LemonLake in irc
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00:12 kahrl what line?
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00:47 * jentron just watched a youtube minecraft video of someone racing on a pig....
00:47 * jentron wants pigs we can ride and steer!
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00:57 luizrpgluiz I really wanted a teacher, so I can learn best Moon and C/C++
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08:49 ecutruin Hey asie, btw. :P
08:52 asie hi ecu
08:59 ecutruin asie, as I was saying before on twitter.  I do like Minetest a lot, and its definitely possible to make awesome things with it, I just forsee issues with choosing to mod for it vs MC.
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09:01 ecutruin Of course, as you mentioned, I could open a github issue.. but I'd likely have to open quite a few to get the features needed to effectively make a lot of the stuff I'd want to.
09:01 ecutruin Its honestly just not worth the time.
09:02 ecutruin I would be better off just building my own engine at that point, as at least then I can focus on what types of things I want (which is kind of what I'm doing, currently).
09:04 ecutruin Anyways, instead of continually back and forthing on twitter, figured I'd just say that to ya here, asie. ^-^  I do definitely think MT has a ton of potential and have this channel on auto-connect to keep an eye on it, but its not "there" yet in my opinion.
09:05 ThatGraemeGuy uh
09:05 asie ecutruin: so open them
09:05 ThatGraemeGuy hundreds of people do think its worth the time
09:05 ThatGraemeGuy or at least several dozen
09:06 ecutruin asie, no.  I don't feel like spending my limited time opening tons of github issues and conversing on the issues back and forth.  As I said, in my case, that time is better spent studying games, coding my own game, etc.
09:06 asie I guess
09:07 ecutruin ThatGraemeGuy, don't mistake my comments for saying MT isn't worth developing... I'm stating that I personally don't have the time to try to get features added that I'd need in order to make the types of content I wish to.
09:08 ecutruin When, I could instead, spend that time towards just developing my own game via Unity and have all the feautres I want and then some.
09:08 * PenguinDad jumps out the window
09:10 ThatGraemeGuy ecutruin: I understand what you are saying, but then why even bring it up? There are a ton of contributors, and realistically nobody really worries whether your personal wishlist is catered to. So why even bring it up? Seems odd
09:11 ecutruin ThatGraemeGuy, because I responded to asie on twitter, who I happen to follow. ^-^  I was just getting out what I would have said on twitter here instead.
09:12 asie yeah
09:12 ThatGraemeGuy mmmkay
09:13 ecutruin As for the feature issues, they aren't really a "personal wishlist" as such.  More of a series of issues with the engine's design in its current form.. Such as all animations repeating (aka you cannot execute an animation only once).  Another such issues is that entities have no clientside prediction.
09:13 ecutruin These are both core issues that area already effecting existing mods/games on MT.
09:14 ecutruin No dynamic models is also an issue if you wanted to encourage modders from MC to move to MT.  No actual particle engine.  The list goes on.
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09:16 ecutruin So really, its isn't about "me", I just used me as an example as I happen to be such a designer (came from the MC community).  In addition, I know and converse with many of the other large mod creators in the MC community, so I have an idea as to what kind of issues would be faced with moving to MT.
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09:17 PenguinDad Dynamic models?
09:18 ecutruin PenguinDad, yes.. such as being able to alter node models at runtime.. say I want to throw a brick slab on top of a dirt slab, in the same block.. or place a wire on the ground and put a slab over it.  Creating separate nodes for every single possibility is not efficient or good design.
09:22 PenguinDad The addition of param2 to glasslike_framed is already a step in that direction
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09:24 ecutruin PenguinDad, unfortunately you'd be wrong in this case.  Maybe the code helps in that direction, but hardcoding additional drawtypes is not really good for customization in mods.
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09:24 ecutruin Now, if they hardcoded something akin to ForgeMultipart.. and allowed you to supply models for subparts, that's be better.  That's probably how I'll handle it in my project.
09:26 ecutruin To be honest, I really have no desire to really dive into this issue in depth, unless you really want to.. I spoke with some of the larger modders in the MT community about this already, as well as a few of the developers.
09:26 ecutruin Eventually, I expect MT will be a pretty large thing (if someone else doesn't to it first, I suppose).. but as of right now.. MC is a better solution for those that want more features.
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10:47 LemonLake yoyo
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11:00 jojoa1997_ And thus the mornings of boredom starts. I love learning but can barely tolerate school.
11:03 LemonLake lol
11:03 jojoa1997_ Its ironic
11:03 reactor School is a good place to learn things, indeed.
11:04 jojoa1997_ I can't bring myself to code anything during the summer when I have time but during school when I have none I want to code alot
11:04 reactor Suppose it's no better in your country. Might as well just skip it and read on your own.
11:04 jojoa1997_ reactor: hence why I am taking college classes
11:05 jojoa1997_ Nah without school my socialization would be here every once in a while
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11:07 reactor What was the point of all those literature and history and blablabla classes anyway?
11:09 twoelk so that you can win quiz shows by knowing irrelevant data
11:09 reactor Heh...
11:09 Exio4 lol
11:10 Exio4 hey, i like coding and reading about history
11:11 twoelk I code when I have to but I read a lot more about history than I can actually afford to spend time on
11:12 Exio4 i need a day with 48-50 hours
11:12 reactor Alright, fint. It's fun to read. Somtimes!
11:12 Exio4 sometimes?
11:12 reactor Sometimes.
11:13 Exio4 i'd love to spend my whole life learning (history, languages) and coding!
11:13 Exio4 compilers and operating systems are an awesome topic too
11:14 reactor And code must solve some problem. What's the point otherwise?
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11:16 twoelk solving problems is the only reason that forces me to code :-D
11:17 reactor There are many-many unsolved mysteries in the present day, for example take a look at solid state physics -- yet we spend our precious time reading about some wacko's feelings or things happened before the advent of science.
11:19 twoelk actually I would rather develope a nice idea and tell it to someone who can solve it better and quicker than me. Somehow though whatever company I work at I end up beeing the coding guy everybody tells his admittingly sometimes good ideas. - and of I go scriptkidding some magic
11:23 Exio4 reactor, you haven't code in haskell, have you?
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11:23 reactor Exio4: what's the point?
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11:24 Exio4 reactor, it is a functional programming language, with an awesome type system, and is rooted in some concepts from category theory
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11:25 jojoa1997_ Lol Exio 48-50 hours a day
11:25 reactor We use C and FORTRAN, they are doing fine... so far.
11:25 reactor I'll take a look at Haskell.
11:27 Exio4 C is nice, but it is too low level for some things
11:27 * sfan5 licks jojoa1997_
11:27 sfan5 <LemonLake> does anyone know the name of that weird line that sometimes moves down?
11:27 sfan5 last-read-line
11:27 LemonLake thanks
11:27 LemonLake i worked out that it moves when the client wasnt in focus
11:28 Exio4 read-eval-print-loop
11:28 Exio4 ,google LYAH
11:28 Exio4 !google LYAH
11:28 Exio4 :( how do i google
11:28 sfan5 !g google
11:28 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.google.com/
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11:29 Exio4 !g lyah
11:29 MinetestBot Exio4: http://learnyouahaskell.com/
11:29 Exio4 ^^ :D
11:30 sfan5 !g exio4
11:30 MinetestBot sfan5: https://github.com/EXio4
11:30 Exio4 Mittagessen
11:31 Exio4 is mittage "half"?
11:31 sfan5 what?
11:31 sfan5 Mittagessen is lunch
11:31 Exio4 nvm
11:31 twoelk mid day eating
11:31 Exio4 that ^ :P
11:32 Exio4 sounds like Mittage ++ essen
11:32 Exio4 so what is Mittage?
11:32 PenguinDad lol
11:32 sfan5 Mittag = mid day, Mittage is the plural
11:32 sfan5 but I don't think you can eat mid days
11:32 sfan5 :P
11:33 twoelk Exio4:  what was your native language?
11:34 sfan5 spanish IIRC
11:34 * jojoa1997_ licks sfan5
11:34 Exio4 yeah, spanish
11:34 jojoa1997_ Exio4: should speak english
11:35 jojoa1997_ I am waiting in the assistant principles office since I have no first period and things are being worked out
11:35 * sfan5 meows at jojoa1997_
11:35 jojoa1997_ Some student sees me and says "you in trouble already?"
11:35 jojoa1997_ Come on I never get in trouble
11:35 * jojoa1997_ pets sfan5
11:36 sfan5 <jojoa1997_> Come on I never get in trouble
11:36 jojoa1997_ I'm serious
11:37 jojoa1997_ I am in here so I won't be considered breaking the law because I am at school before 10 minutes of my first scheduled class
11:37 Exio4 what
11:37 twoelk Exio4: well all germanic language share a great deal of words so it is quite interesting once you get the hang of it. I guess pretty similar to the romance languages once you have a basic idea of latin.
11:39 twoelk jojoa1997_: sounds like a school with paranoic security issues
11:39 jojoa1997_ New rule implemented this year
11:39 Exio4 twoelk, i'll learn latin! somewhen!
11:39 jojoa1997_ I was gonna stay in the library to work on my college class but
11:40 jojoa1997_ I guess I have to be library help
11:40 jojoa1997_ At least there will be free time
11:40 Exio4 so far i'm learning a little bit of german just for the lulz, because if everything goes well, i'll never need it
11:41 jojoa1997_ Exio it could help you later on ;-)
11:41 twoelk I was a total failure in latin classes but what maneged to stay in my head has been a wealth of information eversince ;-P
11:42 Exio4 twoelk, get a duolingo account!
11:43 Exio4 and memrise
11:43 twoelk whatfor?
11:44 Exio4 learning languages
11:44 Exio4 like, spanish, italian, :P
11:45 twoelk hm could be usefull, but I'm no good at learning languages in an learning environment
11:45 sfan5 >no japanese
11:45 sfan5 pls
11:46 twoelk I usually pick them up as I have to use them
11:46 Exio4 twoelk, same here
11:47 Exio4 but duolingo is somehow nice :P
11:47 twoelk I spent severall months in arabian countries and it was fascinating how even the script sort of crept into my head, not that I'm fast at this though
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11:50 Exio4 my english is sucky, bit i'm pretty sure if i had to go to the US or UK, i'll improve it a lot :P
11:53 jojoa1997_ When is the
11:53 jojoa1997_ lady gonna get here!!!
11:53 twoelk really speacking to people is the best lesson, except for watching movies maybe
11:54 jojoa1997_ Exio4 you will not improve by coming too the us
11:54 Exio4 i will
11:55 twoelk my english is good enough to go unnoticed for a while, but my dialect is all over the place
11:55 Exio4 Schokolade
11:55 Exio4 nice word and easy to pronounce, why can't all the words be that way? ;P
11:56 Exio4 twoelk, my english isn't that good though :P
11:56 jojoa1997_ Exio4 spoken English is so different than written proper english
11:56 jojoa1997_ And slang is even worse
11:57 twoelk slang and dialects are difficult everywhere
11:58 * PenguinDad hands Exio4 a bit of Schokolade
11:59 * Exio4 isst it :3
11:59 Exio4 it :D?
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12:00 twoelk ?
12:01 twoelk ist=is
12:01 twoelk it=es
12:01 twoelk it is = es ist
12:01 Exio4 yeah, but i don't know if "exio4 isst es" is correct
12:01 Exio4 isn't isst = eat?
12:01 Exio4 but he/she/it?
12:01 sfan5 Exio4: "die Schokolade" -> "isst sie"
12:01 twoelk ah you are right
12:02 Exio4 sie? k
12:02 sfan5 chocolate is obviously female
12:02 twoelk can't get used to the new spelling rules
12:03 Exio4 sfan5, "el chocolate" in spanish
12:03 Exio4 el = male
12:04 sfan5 the only language where it isn't this weird is japanese
12:04 sfan5 and probably chinese
12:04 sfan5 and some other ones
12:04 Exio4 why?
12:04 sfan5 w/e
12:04 twoelk oh but you have other pits to fall into there
12:05 Exio4 "Obst ist süß"
12:05 twoelk they have a complete universe about who addresses whom
12:05 twoelk and politeness rules
12:07 * twoelk had to look at the weblog to read that :-(
12:08 sfan5 Exio4: "fruits are cute" or "fruits are sweet" ?
12:08 Exio4 sweet
12:09 Exio4 sfan5 ist süß nicht
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12:09 sfan5 :(
12:09 sfan5 Exio4: put the "nicht" before the adjective
12:09 sfan5 Exio4: it's like a ! in programming
12:09 Exio4 before?
12:09 Exio4 so duolingo is wrong
12:11 sfan5 apparentlly
12:11 sfan5 -l
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12:12 Exio4 isn't it valid that way somewhere?
12:12 Exio4 (in germany)
12:13 sfan5 not that I know of
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12:16 ElectronLibre Hi everyone.
12:16 sfan5 hi
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12:25 PenguinDad My connection always freaks out during thunderstorms :/
12:28 reactor ISPs don't give a fuck about customers...
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12:30 MinetestBot Megaf: lazyj was last seen at 2014-08-15 18:20:55 UTC on #minetest
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12:31 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen lukc around.
12:32 twoelk Exio4: ok, took an English lesson in duolingo and learnt what I allready knew: my spelling sucks in any language
12:36 PenguinDad lol
12:37 Megaf twoelk: I know the feeling bro
12:37 Megaf so, is duolingo any good?
12:38 twoelk better than nothing, I guess, but still a robot
12:41 twoelk I don't think duolingo would be able to teach me much as it is pretty far off from the way I usually acquire languages
12:42 Exio4 twoelk, hah
12:43 twoelk We once had a french girl teaching us in class when I was 10 or so. She made us buy and sell stuff in a makeshift shop. That may be the single lesson where I learnt most of my french
12:44 twoelk That she was pretty cute may have helped though
12:44 Exio4 i'm pretty sure that was the real reason
12:44 Exio4 hot french teacher + being 10yo
12:45 twoelk to be honest maybe sex is indeed the best motivation for anything in life
12:45 Exio4 hah
12:47 twoelk at university one professor used to show a lot of pictures during lectures. With the one or other "offtopic" one now and then = popular lectures where nobody fell asleep
12:48 twoelk they stopped him though because the pictures were - well - offtopic
12:51 Exio4 i think a non-boring class is actually waay better than any other class
12:51 Exio4 lecture*
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12:55 twoelk I wasn't bored much in school. but I did scribble and draw a lot so if they had tied my hands maybe I would have fallen asleep, don't really know
12:56 Exio4 my drawing sucks
12:57 Exio4 lets see how amazing memrise is
12:57 twoelk I didn't say it was any good, just my way to understand and memorize things
13:01 twoelk if you want to make a correct drawing of say a sailing ship, you have to what is were and it is easier if you know why. So drawing something makes you really look at it and maybe understanding the functions
13:01 twoelk put in another "know"
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13:34 luizrpgluiz HI
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13:54 rubenwardy Hi all!
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14:17 FreeFull What happens to what is in your crafting slots when you die with the bones mod?
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14:17 PenguinDad FreeFull: iirc that inventory is kept as is
14:23 reactor FreeFull: you likely lose it.
14:23 reactor Oh come on people... why not use dropondie by default?
14:23 reactor Bones are clumsy!
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14:25 PenguinDad Why not use destroyondie by default?
14:29 Enke An edited version of dropondie that only drops certain items, so that death isn't AS bad?
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14:34 FreeFull At least you don't have to break bones anymore
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14:35 PenguinDad In latest minetest_game you can punch simply punch them
14:36 PenguinDad -punch
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14:52 sapier what's best way to get a list of playernames in lua? guess someone know better then me
14:54 LemonLake get a list of players
14:54 LemonLake then get their names
14:56 sapier what's the command ... can't find it in lua_api.... to big that file
14:57 LemonLake get_connected_players
14:57 LemonLake returns a table of objectrefs
14:57 LemonLake loop through that and get their names
14:58 sapier ahh get_connected_players .. that's been what I was looking for ... thanks!
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15:27 LemonLake wait what
15:27 LemonLake oh
15:28 LemonLake that ip was very similar to mine, freaked me out
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15:29 Calinou people are always freaked out whenever they read their own IP
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15:42 sfan5 LemonLake: was just markv's IP
15:45 sfan5 LemonLake: and I'd suggest using a cloak anyway
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15:51 sfan5 [redacted] - - [19/Aug/2014:11:50:55 -0400] "GET /list HTTP/1.1" 200 60415 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Darwin/14.0.0 iPhone5,2)" "-"
15:51 sfan5 holy shit
15:51 sfan5 what
15:51 sfan5 since when do we have 0.4.10 on iOS?
15:51 VanessaE buildcrap got updated.
15:51 sfan5 oh
15:52 sfan5 that explains it
15:52 proller deny all requests from  iPhone to list
15:53 sfan5 why would I do that?
15:53 sfan5 the buildcrap ppl would just remove the user agent
15:53 proller because you can
15:53 sfan5 and leave servers with no means to block mobile clients
15:53 sfan5 "Minetest/0.4.10 (Darwin/14.0.0 iPad4,1)"
15:53 sfan5 I wonder how good it works there
15:54 VanessaE not much better than 0.4.8 did I guess.
15:54 sfan5 you tested it on an iPad?
15:54 VanessaE I have not but I have plenty of users on my servers who use ipads/iphones.
15:55 sfan5 wow
15:55 VanessaE their biggest complaints are "lag" (which I take to mean low FPS) and my signs don't work right on the older client.
15:55 sfan5 there are WAY too many clients that still use <= 0.48
15:55 Mikeonline hi
15:55 VanessaE hi
15:55 sfan5 (whose user agent is only "Minetest")
15:56 LemonLake how would one get a cloak
15:56 sfan5 ask in #freenode
15:56 sfan5 when the staff are around they'll give you one
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15:57 nman3600 Hi
15:57 LemonLake yo
15:57 sfan5 I'd guess armv7l clients are android
15:57 sfan5 if so we got many android clients
15:58 LemonLake I wouldn't mind Minetest on iOS but only if it's actually legal.
15:58 VanessaE yep
15:58 LemonLake Buildcraft is illegal, yes?
15:58 sfan5 yes
15:58 VanessaE LemonLake: quasi-legal
15:58 VanessaE they released their sources
15:58 sfan5 hm
15:58 sfan5 yeah
15:58 sfan5 for iOS too?
15:58 VanessaE but it's unclear if those sources can build into the client the users are using.
15:59 VanessaE sfan5: idk about the iOS version.  Android though for sure, if the sources match.
15:59 sfan5 damn
15:59 sfan5 really
15:59 sfan5 lots lots and lots of clients <= 0.4.8
15:59 VanessaE strict protocol checking :)
16:00 sfan5 we should focus on somehow being able to tell people to update
16:00 LemonLake Though have you seen how many re-releases of Minetest they have?
16:00 VanessaE I'm probably gonna turn that on soon, since 0.4.10 is available for everything now
16:00 sfan5 hm
16:01 sfan5 theoretically we could fill the serverlist with a server named "Please update your client, you are using 0.4.8 or older, 0.4.10 is available for download at http://minetest.net/download"
16:01 sfan5 for people using 0.4.8 or older
16:01 VanessaE that's a good idea actually.
16:01 proller and ban them!
16:01 VanessaE but only for clients < 0.4.10
16:01 VanessaE shut up, proller
16:01 sfan5 maybe they still want to use the server list
16:01 VanessaE sfan5: 0.4.9 and older - there's no reason to run anything older than 0.4.10 imho
16:02 sfan5 so we should maybe just do "<the text I just said>" "--------" "--------" "-------" <real entries>
16:02 VanessaE fill the top 6 slots with the upgrade warning
16:02 LemonLake Correct me if I'm wrong, but https://cdn.mediacru.sh/yf1dydNV6AzV.png
16:02 LemonLake These are all Minecraft forks
16:02 sfan5 [redacted] - - [19/Aug/2014:12:02:23 -0400] "GET /'+(escapeHTML(server.url))+' HTTP/1.1" 404 209 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html)" "-"
16:02 sfan5 lol
16:02 LemonLake s/Minecraft/Minetest
16:02 sfan5 fail
16:02 LemonLake +/
16:02 LemonLake jezs
16:02 VanessaE LemonLake: those are all buildcrap, yeah
16:03 Calinou <VanessaE> but it's unclear if those sources can build into the client the users are using.
16:03 sfan5 LemonLake: not forks, but (crappy) ports
16:03 Calinou yeah, no verifcation is enforced with Google Play
16:03 Calinou I think F-Droid rebuilds all packages, so that the source corresponds to the build.
16:03 LemonLake the dudes at GameABC studio are real +Cnts
16:03 sfan5 Calinou: you can always send a DMCA
16:03 VanessaE LemonLake: the one marked "Buildcraft 2" is the latest, 0.4.10-based version
16:03 LemonLake Calinou: As long as you pay the $25 license, you're good to go
16:03 Calinou we tried, didn't work, sfan5?
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16:03 sfan5 last year I got 3 ports down by sending a dmca
16:04 VanessaE LemonLake: except I don't know about that voxelgarden one
16:04 Calinou the other way is, get Mojang to sue them for trademark violation 8)
16:04 Calinou for having “craft”
16:04 Calinou (I'm sure it can be deemed confusing with skilled enough lawyers)
16:04 LemonLake VanessaE: Looks like Minetest to me.
16:04 LemonLake Haha.
16:04 PenguinDad It even uses the logo of the voxelgarden game
16:04 Calinou sfan5, I thought only celeron55 could send them
16:04 LemonLake It's literally a clone of Worldcraft.
16:04 LemonLake Exact same code.
16:05 VanessaE Calinou: anyone with a stake in the code I would think.
16:06 sfan5 Calinou: I have code in the Minetest engine too
16:06 Calinou I have 10 lines!
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16:07 sfan5 reactor: omg pls2not explode
16:07 LemonLake Calinou: still more than me
16:07 reactor sfan5: ?
16:07 reactor Reactors rarely explode. More often, they have a meltdown.
16:07 sfan5 reactor: nothing; you run the <russion city> name server, right?
16:08 sfan5 russian*
16:08 reactor Not anymore.
16:08 sfan5 :(
16:08 sfan5 y not?
16:08 reactor It doesn't compute.
16:08 * PenguinDad pours some deuterium oxide on reactor
16:08 sfan5 reactor: anyway, you had those weird creatures on there, right?
16:08 reactor Well, I suspended it until further clarification of the new law.
16:08 sfan5 mhm, right
16:08 sfan5 that law
16:08 VanessaE Calinou: Pripyat
16:09 reactor I heard they made exceptions, but I haven't ever found the source.
16:09 Calinou ?
16:09 VanessaE new law?
16:09 PenguinDad sfan5: *ukrainian
16:10 sfan5 Russia's politc is kinda weird
16:10 sfan5 politcs*
16:10 reactor VanessaE: yes, they passed a law that mandates everyone to report that they are going to host anything public.
16:10 reactor sfan5: it is.
16:10 reactor Well, I partially agree with what they meant.
16:11 sfan5 reactor: how is "public" defined?
16:11 reactor But why not limit that to _sites_?
16:11 reactor Anything except for personal or family needs.
16:11 sfan5 1) add a donation address
16:12 sfan5 2) you might need donations for you
16:12 sfan5 3) ???
16:12 reactor Been reading the law, oh my god -- it's hard to read, all those tangles formulations.
16:12 sfan5 4) success
16:12 VanessaE wouldn't a minetest server be considered "personal"?
16:12 reactor Donation address?
16:12 sfan5 like bitcoin or paypal
16:12 VanessaE reactor: donations in PND :)
16:12 sfan5 (just a joke anyway)
16:12 reactor VanessaE: the users are not my family, are they?
16:12 VanessaE reactor: you said "personal or family".
16:12 reactor Don't worry, I'll either bring it back up or publish the map soon.
16:13 reactor Yes.
16:13 VanessaE if not family, then "personal" applies
16:13 sfan5 to get back to the topic:
16:13 sfan5 <sfan5>30 reactor: anyway, you had those weird creatures on there, right?
16:13 reactor Personal usually means used by self.
16:13 VanessaE your server is personal, not commercial.
16:13 reactor sfan5: which ones?
16:13 VanessaE well I dunno
16:13 sfan5 reactor: the things that hunt you and hurt you
16:13 sfan5 and that looked scary
16:14 reactor Not commercial, but not personal, as not only I used it.
16:14 VanessaE when I last visited that map, it still didn't have the actual reactor complex :P
16:14 reactor sfan5: ah, we had nurses, bunny freaks and floating masks.
16:14 sfan5 yes
16:14 sfan5 I just wanted to say they were nicely made
16:14 sfan5 something unique
16:14 reactor VanessaE: there isn't any planned
16:15 reactor I'm too short of time to even complete the city...
16:15 reactor sfan5: thank you!
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17:11 reactor sfan5, VanessaE: is there any chance you would like to host the game?
17:12 sfan5 me? where?
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17:15 Krock hai everypony
17:16 PenguinDad Shark Krock
17:16 Krock Uhu PenguinDad
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17:20 VanessaE reactor: I'll pass.
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17:32 justherefornofap Anyone know of a site like "Can I run It" for Linux?
17:33 sfan5 what does "Can I run it" do?
17:33 justherefornofap Tells you if your PC is good enough for a game
17:33 sfan5 it's probably the same for linux and windows
17:35 justherefornofap Doesn't detect the java :/ And I think the CanIRunIt is windows only
17:35 justherefornofap sfan5, work for you? http://en.checkreq.com/scan.php?receiver=2
17:36 sfan5 java is insecure
17:36 Calinou change your name to something appropriate, please
17:36 justherefornofap shit
17:36 justherefornofap ahaha
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17:37 sfan5 ?
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17:55 ouioui sfan5, how can I get a site like that to run?
17:55 Calinou well, don't try
17:55 Calinou ouioui, tell us your system requirements and we'll see?
17:55 sfan5 why are you asking me?
17:56 PenguinDad Maybe "Can I crouch it" works better :P
17:56 ouioui ?
17:57 ouioui Why can't I use a site like that Calinou?
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17:58 Calinou I'm not saying I can't; I'm saying you shouldn't
17:58 Calinou also, what does this have to do with Minetest? :/
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18:02 ouioui sorry
18:02 ouioui IK I can run Minetest just wondering about a game like CSGO
18:02 ouioui Probably not
18:03 sfan5 CS:GO doesn't work on linux
18:04 ouioui Just an random game I thought of
18:04 Calinou there are free replacements for it ;)
18:05 ouioui Really?
18:05 PenguinDad ouioui: maybe you can run Unvanquished or Red Eclipse?
18:06 PenguinDad No CS:GO replacements but still awesome games
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18:12 ouioui Sorry did you say anything about CS:GO replacements?
18:14 Calinou these things aren't even semi-realistic
18:14 Calinou eg. http://etlegacy.com/ is semi-realistic
18:16 ouioui Never understood watching Gaming Streams but found myself on Twitch watching CS:GO- sure it'd be so hard to get into but reminded me of playing CoD4 ages ago
18:18 Calinou I never watched a gaming stream
18:18 Calinou not enough bandwidth :p
18:19 * Krock gives Calinou http://i.imgur.com/hD3Mugj.png
18:19 ouioui You can only use a certain amount or too slow
18:19 PenguinDad I can't even watch youtube videos without stuttering
18:19 ouioui D:
18:20 ouioui I would be so much more productive though aha
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18:22 Calinou well, I watch one video a month or so
18:22 Calinou reminds me of 0.3.x mapgen, Krock
18:22 ouioui Calinou, so it's a limitied MB?
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18:24 Krock Calinou, Wasn't that one using a 3d noise for the terrain?
18:24 Wings What happened to Onez' Minetest Server?
18:24 Krock IT DIED
18:24 Wings .....
18:24 Krock crashes/downtimes happen
18:24 Wings When will it be off Maitnance
18:24 Calinou ouioui, no, slow connection
18:25 Krock idk, connect to irc.inchra.net #minetest
18:25 ouioui Calinou, how slow? :P
18:25 PenguinDad It turned into Zeroz Minetest Server :P
18:25 Wings How do  i friggen connect
18:25 Wings what button???
18:25 Wings Btw its MTZ
18:25 Krock * MTZ-Basic
18:26 Wings Yea
18:26 * Wings freaks out
18:26 Wings :(
18:26 Krock lol
18:26 Wings Wtf i wanna play now!
18:27 LemonLake http://i.imgur.com/4JFfaXN.gif
18:27 Krock boo hoo go to my server, that one is better :P
18:27 LemonLake cat gif detected
18:27 Wings Krock: Ever played mtz tho
18:27 Krock I did once, when it was vanilla + areas mod...
18:27 Wings Krock: Lemme be a mod then
18:27 Wings i wanna be a mod on your serv
18:27 ouioui xD
18:27 Krock guys like you have -1% chance
18:27 sfan5 Wings: do you have wings?
18:27 Wings -_-
18:28 Wings yea
18:28 Krock Need mor red bull?
18:28 ouioui Wings, WoR?
18:28 sfan5 well thats nice
18:28 sfan5 I am a cat
18:28 * Krock meows at sfan5
18:28 Wings Wing- Angel
18:28 ouioui Wings of Redemption?
18:28 Calinou ouioui, 3 Mb/s down, 0.25 Mb/s up
18:28 Wings Im angel of MTZ :P
18:29 Calinou I could have 100 times more if an ISP bothered deploying optic fiber for real
18:29 * Wings begs krock
18:29 * Krock Sgniw sgeb
18:29 Wings I wish to be a Moderator on your server Krock
18:29 * Wings tugs Krock's foot
18:30 PenguinDad My upload speed is faster than Calinou's \o/
18:30 * Krock 's too \o///
18:30 * Calinou uploads Rainbow Dash to PenguinDad
18:30 ThatGraemeGuy anyone running kaeza's IRC mod on ubuntu 14.04? having trouble figuring out what to install to satisfy LuaSocket dependency. tried lua-socket and even lua-socket-dev
18:30 * Wings wants to be a Mod someday
18:30 ouioui Calinou, I feel bad- mine's 46down, 7up
18:31 PenguinDad 7up :D
18:31 Wings PLEASE KROCK
18:31 Wings PLEASE
18:31 Wings left #minetest
18:31 Krock - Wings left
18:31 Krock - Wings wird nun ignoriert
18:31 Krock damn!
18:32 * Jordach slowly watches the entirety of /r/gaming, /r/pcmasterrace and /r/totalbiscuit go to shit over ZK
18:32 Calinou ZK?
18:32 ouioui ZK?
18:32 Calinou all these subreddits are already to shit
18:32 Jordach http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s4nmr1
18:32 ouioui PenguinDad, what were the things like CS?
18:32 ThatGraemeGuy derp, never mind!
18:33 Calinou ouioui, Unvanquished, Red Eclipse, but I barely see a connection
18:33 Calinou Enemy Territory: Legacy is likely closer
18:33 PenguinDad ouioui: the things I told you aren't like CS:GO in any way
18:33 ouioui Just want a kinda simple FPS that reminds me of CoD4
18:33 ouioui Maybe I should just fix my Xbox
18:33 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
18:33 * Jordach has more on said subject
18:33 Jordach Calinou, ouioui ^
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18:36 ouioui Maybe I don't wanna play CSGO anyway, seems like all the good guns and things cost a lot of real money?
18:37 Jordach ouioui, the non skinned weapons are free
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18:37 Jordach (unlock them at the start of the round afaik)
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18:37 luizrpgluiz hi
18:38 ThatGraemeGuy d'oh, no still not winning
18:38 Jordach -with ingame cash generated by killing others
18:38 Calinou <ouioui> Just want a kinda simple FPS that reminds me of CoD4
18:38 Calinou probably doesn't exist
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18:38 Calinou if you're into silly realism, AssaultCube: http://assault.cubers.net/
18:38 Calinou in this game, you move faster by moving diagonally 8)
18:38 Calinou (if only this worked in real life)
18:39 ouioui CS seems like that, apparently works well in Wine
18:39 Calinou still paid and proprietary :o
18:40 ouioui That wasn;t one of my requests! xD
18:40 * Jordach grabs the popcorn http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/2d​z0bm/totalbiscuit_discusses_the_state_of_games/
18:41 PenguinDad bunny hopp
18:41 PenguinDad s/bunny hopp//
18:41 ouioui quoi?
18:42 ElectronLibre Hum, another french? ^^
18:42 ouioui Might try and work out how to fix my Xbox, Minetest doesn't even run well on this shit
18:43 ThatGraemeGuy wow i must be retarded
18:43 ouioui Probably
18:44 ThatGraemeGuy anyone got any tips for getting LuaSocket installed on Ubuntu 14.04. The "Installation" page http://w3.impa.br/~diego/softwa​re/luasocket/installation.html tells me many things except how to install it
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18:51 ouioui You can get CS:GO on Xbox?!
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19:23 Jordach ThatGraemeGuy, sudo apt-get install luasocket
19:23 Jordach that's it on 14.04
19:23 Jordach (works on Xubuntu 14.04 in a VM)
19:24 ThatGraemeGuy E: Unable to locate package luasocket
19:24 ThatGraemeGuy mmmm
19:26 Jordach luasocket5-1
19:26 * Jordach runs dpkg --get-selections
19:27 ThatGraemeGuy there's no luasock<anything>
19:27 Jordach ThatGraemeGuy, lua-socket
19:28 ThatGraemeGuy already tried that and even lua-socket-dev
19:28 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PaLUK4Bp1t8v.png
19:30 Jordach ThatGraemeGuy, ran the command + > text.txt = http://paste.debian.net/116443/
19:31 Jordach clearly you may be missing packages from other sources
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19:32 ThatGraemeGuy must be
19:32 ThatGraemeGuy http://pastebin.com/8Z4wHyf3
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19:33 Jordach i have enabled universe packages and some other stuff
19:34 ThatGraemeGuy yeah, i have everything enabled
19:34 ThatGraemeGuy completely stumped
19:35 PilzAdam ThatGraemeGuy, is your luasocket version for Lua 5.1 or 5.2?
19:36 Jordach ThatGraemeGuy, liblua5.1-socket2
19:36 Jordach ^ possibility (appears in Debian repos)
19:36 ThatGraemeGuy http://pastebin.com/8fzHfgQG, seems to suggest both
19:37 ThatGraemeGuy http://pastebin.com/uA5wv9uw, all the packages mentioning 'lua' and 'sock'
19:37 Jordach liblua-5.1 might install it
19:38 Jordach liblua5.1 *
19:38 * ThatGraemeGuy tries
19:38 Jordach that installs all sorts of Lua 5.1 libs for use
19:38 ThatGraemeGuy i see
19:38 ThatGraemeGuy nothing to lose :)
19:39 Jordach otherwise i don't fucking know, just worked on my VM
19:39 ThatGraemeGuy nope :-/
19:40 ThatGraemeGuy I give up
19:40 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/116446/
19:40 Jordach hm
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19:41 Jordach http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/liblua5.1-socket2
19:41 Jordach http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/lucid/luasocket
19:41 Jordach best i can find
19:42 ThatGraemeGuy that's lucid, neither exist anymore on trusty :-/ See http://pastebin.com/uA5wv9uw
19:44 Jordach https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/lua-socket
19:44 Jordach hang on
19:45 Jordach (may have somehow enabled debians repos)
19:45 Jordach actually that sounds very plausible
19:47 Jordach ThatGraemeGuy, you can get it from Debian but not Ubuntu for some reason
19:48 ThatGraemeGuy mmm weird
20:01 crazyR1 Jordach on ubuntu use luarocks
20:01 crazyR1 works well for me
20:06 Calinou old versions of IRC mod made you manually build luasocket.so, ThatGraemeGuy
20:07 ThatGraemeGuy I cloned this one: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc
20:07 Calinou post an issue
20:07 Calinou issues can be used for support, sometimes 8)
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20:17 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Mod profiling support 0c94f2f 2014-08-19T22:15:23+02:00 http://git.io/azlBKQ
20:23 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Mod profiling support c24e075 2014-08-19T22:22:57+02:00 http://git.io/OsWFag
20:24 LemonLake excuse me
20:24 sapier sorry had to fix a typo :-)
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20:27 LemonLake what typo?
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20:33 LemonLake i did it mom
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20:35 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix caption of config mods button (simple menu) a4c987b 2014-08-19T22:34:25+02:00 http://git.io/A4QEUA
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20:38 * PenguinDad meows at LemonLake
20:42 LemonLake yeah
20:42 LemonLake meow at me and quit
20:42 LemonLake fuckin coward
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22:08 virtualfall Guys watch: https://gsa15.enterprisedemo-google.com
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22:10 Eater4 ThatGraemeGuy: that mod is screwed up, what system are your running it on
22:10 Eater4 *the irc mod
22:11 Eater4 Hey JamesTait
22:12 * JamesTait is not really here. ;)
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23:36 Warr1024 How do I find out what the bounding box for an ObjectRef is in the lua API?
23:40 Warr1024 It looks like you can set_properties but not get_properties.
23:41 Warr1024 and get_entity_name is apparently deprecated.

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