Minetest logo

IRC log for #minetest, 2014-08-18

| Channels | #minetest index | Today | | Google Search | Plaintext

All times shown according to UTC.

Time Nick Message
00:04 kahrl joined #minetest
00:08 zat joined #minetest
00:10 Sokomine vazon: which kind of problem? can you explain, please?
00:11 Vazon Sokomine: with the new homedecor curtains when you put them in you get a fuction error on line 1011
00:11 Vazon 18:12:02: ERROR[main]: ServerError: ...\bin\..\games\minerealms_game\​mods\colormachine\init.lua:1011: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'factor' (a nil value)
00:11 Vazon 18:12:02: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
00:11 Vazon 18:12:02: ERROR[main]: ...\bin\..\games\minerealms_game\​mods\colormachine\init.lua:1011: in function 'main_menu_formspec'
00:17 * VanessaE hides
00:17 VanessaE did I break the colormachine? ;)
00:21 VanessaE or rather compatibility with it anyway
00:24 * Vazon points finger at VanessaE
00:25 * VanessaE hides again
00:46 Gizmokid2010 joined #minetest
00:47 realtinymonster hi
00:50 turtleman_ joined #minetest
01:04 dotDeb hi realtinymonster
01:11 Vazon joined #minetest
01:13 enricom__ joined #minetest
01:38 AnotherBrick joined #minetest
01:53 hmmmmm joined #minetest
02:14 paramat joined #minetest
02:22 paramat hi hmmmmm feeling five-m-thoughtful? i must request threading for at least the mapgen object luavoxelmanip, many people want to use my mapgens on a multiplayer server but can't due to the frequent long server lags
03:16 CraigyDavi` joined #minetest
03:20 hmmmmm ??
03:27 * paramat codes to electronic music
03:35 sol_invictus joined #minetest
03:45 jin_xi joined #minetest
04:29 paramat left #minetest
04:33 kahrl joined #minetest
04:56 FreeFull_ joined #minetest
05:18 LazyJ joined #minetest
05:20 khonkhortisan_ joined #minetest
05:38 RealBadAngel joined #minetest
05:50 jp joined #minetest
05:56 FreeFull joined #minetest
06:21 VanessaE bah, can't sleep.  as usual.
06:25 asie joined #minetest
06:27 blaise well.. what ever you do, don't buy a Rabbit TV usb dongle
06:50 AMMOnym joined #minetest
06:51 AMMOnym Hi all, I need help again. Do you know name of more dungeon masters mod ? I looked for it 2 hours but nothing. Thanks
06:58 AMMOnym ^ Anyone
07:01 khor_ joined #minetest
07:02 Flipsels joined #minetest
07:03 Flipsels set umode +x
07:06 jp AMMOnym : https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&t=9656
07:07 AMMOnym jp : Thanks, but this was a mod where dungeon masters were 2D and here was Glass master, water master etc.
07:24 Gizmo joined #minetest
07:26 OldCoder joined #minetest
07:27 Akagi201 joined #minetest
07:32 Lunatrius joined #minetest
07:46 AMMOnym https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=8918  I have it !!
07:46 AMMOnym Thanks everybody
07:48 * sfan5 meows at VanessaE
07:49 asie joined #minetest
07:54 asie_ joined #minetest
07:57 enricom joined #minetest
08:01 Yepoleb_ joined #minetest
08:01 Tux[Qyou] joined #minetest
08:03 nore joined #minetest
08:08 aheinecke joined #minetest
08:36 Jousway joined #minetest
08:46 Tux[Qyou] joined #minetest
08:46 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
08:46 ElectronLibre Hi everyone.
08:50 Flipsels Hya
08:52 proller joined #minetest
09:09 asl joined #minetest
09:09 Megaf joined #minetest
09:09 Megaf Hi all
09:09 ElectronLibre Hi Megaf.
09:10 Megaf I like your nick
09:10 ElectronLibre Thanks :).
09:11 Megaf I’m not libre anymore, I’m using OS X
09:11 Megaf you have no idea how I miss Debian
09:11 ElectronLibre I'm actually on a Virtual Machine hosted by a Windows 8.1... It isn't better...
09:11 Megaf oh dear
09:12 Megaf yep, I got Debian on a VM right now too
09:12 Megaf but I didnt installed an IRC client there, yet
09:12 Megaf At the moment I’m compiling minetest
09:12 ElectronLibre Hm.. On Debian you can install XChat.
09:12 JamesTait joined #minetest
09:13 Megaf yep
09:13 Megaf installing it right now
09:14 ElectronLibre I tried to compile minetest on a Virtual Machine on Debian and at the moment I tried to connect to a local server (singleplayer) it didn't connect...
09:15 ElectronLibre I tried on a real computer on Debian but the computer crashed and launch a shutdown -h now when it was around 15%...
09:16 reactor joined #minetest
09:17 ElectronLibre (not sure about the grammar, my english is sometimes terribly bad)
09:17 Megaf Dont worry, we dont really care about a perfect grammar here, Im not a native speaker either
09:18 Megaf and your issue is really weird
09:18 Megaf does it works on Windows?
09:19 ElectronLibre Pff... I didn't try... you have got to install manually 13 programs and place manually dll files, sources, makefiles in right order and launch compilation... I prefer compiling on GNU/Linux.
09:19 jp You're french, ElectronLibre ?
09:20 Megaf ElectronLibre: You could get a prebuilt binarie for windows
09:20 ElectronLibre Yes jp. (It's not a very english nickname...)
09:20 ElectronLibre Megaf : I will look for that thanks :). But I really prefer GNU/Linux x).
09:21 Megaf why are you on Windows then?
09:21 Megaf Im on OS X because I wanted to test the latest beta OS X, the first public Beta in a long time, the OS X Yosemite
09:21 jp Compile something in a Virtual Machine is quite CPU-heavy...
09:22 jp Too much perhaps.
09:23 Megaf not really, it really depends on teh virtualization tech you are using
09:23 ElectronLibre I bought this computer 2 years ago and all my programs, fils, pictures, etc... And Windows were installed on it. But four month ago I discovered Virtual Machines and I try many distrios. Windows started to have problems... (He found that I installed a Linux) and I decided to remove it when it will crash defititivly. (Not sure about all the words of this answer..)
09:24 ElectronLibre *all my programs are on "it".
09:24 ElectronLibre *distros...
09:25 ElectronLibre "It" is Windows, not the clown...
09:25 Megaf so, what distro you like more?
09:26 jp clown, lol. Clone rather ;)
09:26 ElectronLibre I really like Manjaro *-*. But I like Debian too, and Fedora is pretty useful.
09:27 Megaf_ joined #minetest
09:27 jp There are for all tastes in the Linux universe...
09:27 Megaf Debian is by far the one like the most
09:27 Megaf it’s rock solid, fast and easy
09:28 ElectronLibre (*to or too? Help me I sometimes forget my basic grammar x(... )
09:28 jp too
09:28 ElectronLibre \0/ My english isn't so bad :D!
09:29 Megaf I used to be a Madriva user, but Mandriva is no longer what it used to be. Mandriva LE 2005, Mandriva 2007.1, Mandriva 2008.1 and Mandriva 2010.2 were the best Operating Systems at the time
09:29 ElectronLibre Hoho, I've got to reboot to update my kernel...
09:29 Guest26608 I'm on Debian now
09:29 Guest26608 lol
09:30 ElectronLibre Jp were right, there are for all tastes in the GNU/Linux universe...
09:30 Megaf_ joined #minetest
09:30 ElectronLibre I reconnect as soon as possible, bye!
09:30 khor_ joined #minetest
09:31 ElectronLibre left #minetest
09:32 Megaf lol, 21 minutes to compile Minetest on a VM here
09:33 jp It's preferable a double partition. Windows & Linux. Not Linux through Windows for that.
09:33 jp to get*
09:33 Megaf Im downloading a new Debian ISO via Torrent, slow connection I have... Then I will install Debian here again
09:34 Megaf I wonder how the gameplay will be
09:35 PilzAdam joined #minetest
09:35 Megaf Hi PilzAdam
09:35 PilzAdam good morning
09:38 Megaf hm, It's playable
09:40 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
09:40 ElectronLibre Re.
09:43 PenguinDad joined #minetest
09:47 LemonLake joined #minetest
09:53 ElectronLibre (I have read the logs hi PilzAdman :) )
09:54 ElectronLibre *PilzAdam..
09:55 SylvieLorxu joined #minetest
09:58 LemonLake yoo
09:58 LemonLake sup
09:58 ElectronLibre Hi LemonLake :).
09:59 LemonLake yo ElectronLibre
10:03 fishyWET joined #minetest
10:04 Flipsels joined #minetest
10:05 PenguinDad http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html :D
10:06 * ElectronLibre click. He has to wait 15 minutes because he has got only 700bytes/S...
10:07 Jordach joined #minetest
10:08 ElectronLibre Hm, interesting. Thanks PenguinDad :).
10:10 sfan5 >7.96 GB of 51.2 GB (100%), uploaded 126.2 GB (Ratio 1580650)
10:10 sfan5 ಠ_ಠ
10:10 sfan5 wtf Transmission
10:11 ElectronLibre What?
10:11 sfan5 nothing
10:11 ElectronLibre What's that? x)
10:11 sfan5 a torrent
10:11 asl lol
10:11 ElectronLibre Oh, ok.
10:12 ElectronLibre 51Gb, ouch. Absolutly enormous O_o.
10:12 sfan5 well yes
10:12 sfan5 720p H.264 (from BD) and FLAC take a lot of space
10:13 * PenguinDad would like to know how to fix kannada rendering on debian
10:13 ElectronLibre Someone is downloading your hard disc content...
10:13 sfan5 PenguinDad: sudo apt-get install archlinux
10:13 sfan5 ElectronLibre: not my content
10:13 sfan5 "[Coalgirls]_Fullmetal_Alchemist_Br​otherhood_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)"
10:13 ElectronLibre So what?
10:13 sfan5 the first 10 eps of that
10:13 ElectronLibre Oh. Ok.
10:14 ElectronLibre So have a good torrent ^^...
10:15 sfan5 I have 95 torrents
10:15 ElectronLibre Ouch.
10:15 sfan5 but only 8 are active
10:15 sfan5 my Raspberry Pi handles them really well since I switched from Deluge to Transmission
10:15 Ipos joined #minetest
10:16 ElectronLibre Hm. Interesting.
10:16 asl transmission is very lightweight but also very minimum iirc
10:16 sfan5 Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
10:17 sfan5 I still have enough space for more torrents
10:17 sfan5 /dev/sda1       217G  171G   45G  80% /media/ext
10:17 ElectronLibre If you want the minimum it could be interesting so? It's all what I want.
10:17 fishyWET joined #minetest
10:18 ElectronLibre 100Gb remaining, can be useful.
10:19 sfan5 PenguinDad: now serious.. 1) which irc client? 2) installed GNU unifont? 3) Have you set that font for the client you use
10:21 asl @ElectronLibre, if i want the minimum, i would use libtorrent
10:21 sfan5 ew console interface
10:21 * ElectronLibre will remember
10:21 sfan5 the terminal is a great thing
10:21 sfan5 but not for UIs
10:22 ElectronLibre (UI for UserInterfaces?)
10:22 * ElectronLibre found the answer.
10:23 sfan5 yes
10:24 asl no point using a ui if it is running on a headless computer
10:26 ElectronLibre Sometimes User Interfaces can be very simple to handle in a terminal window... but GUIs are useful for simple users. (Strange grammar?)
10:27 sfan5 asl: web ui?
10:27 * ElectronLibre have to go away sorry...
10:27 ElectronLibre <awayfromkeyboard>
10:30 iqualfragile joined #minetest
10:30 sfan5 !tell LemonLake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYNWEdA67fQ
10:30 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when LemonLake is around
10:30 LemonLake I am quite around.
10:30 MinetestBot LemonLake: 08-18 15:30 UTC <sfan5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYNWEdA67fQ
10:30 LemonLake What is this?
10:31 sfan5 music
10:31 LemonLake its nice
10:33 Halo joined #minetest
10:34 LemonLake it's fancy
10:34 LemonLake very dubstep
10:35 ispn joined #minetest
10:36 ispn sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=3&amp;t=156&amp;start=2450#p151540 First Cycles render from MT :]
10:36 asl sfan5: never really use a web ui for a desktop app, most of the time, i find them lacking function
10:39 ispn asl: there is a good ui for desktop apps, it's called ssh ;)
10:39 asl that is not a web ui
10:39 asl that is ssh :P
10:41 asl otherwise know as a terminal ui
10:45 sfan5 asl: the web ui is enough for me, transmission-gtk can't connect to remote transmission instances and having to start transmission-qt is annoying (and it crashes if you want to add a torrent)
10:46 sfan5 asl: typing http://rpi:9091/transmission/web/ is much easier
10:46 rubenwardy joined #minetest
10:46 rubenwardy Hi all!
10:46 sfan5 hi
10:47 ispn ah, transmission ui. Now thats's something completely different.
10:47 sfan5 ispn: awesome
10:47 proller joined #minetest
10:47 PenguinDad yay Kannada works now \o/
10:48 sfan5 LemonLake: like it?
10:48 LemonLake yeah sure
10:48 sfan5 Alstroemeria Records has a bunch of awesome music
10:49 sfan5 LemonLake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D​Ste4FuRNKQ&amp;list=RDDSte4FuRNKQ
10:49 LemonLake the whole playlist?
10:50 sfan5 yes
10:50 sfan5 youtube made this playlist for me
10:50 LemonLake i see
10:50 sfan5 and I started to listen to it while gaming
10:51 sfan5 sadly I haven't found out where to get FLACs ._.
10:56 Vazon joined #minetest
10:58 ElectronLibre </awayfromkeayboard> I'm back!
10:59 ElectronLibre Hi Halo, isp, rubenwardy, proller and Vazon.
10:59 ElectronLibre And iqualfragile.
11:00 iqualfragile ElectronLibre: don't highlight half the channel
11:00 LemonLake ^
11:01 ElectronLibre Sorry ^^. But I try to be the more polite that i can. ^^'..
11:01 sfan5 yay
11:01 sfan5 found flacs
11:02 sfan5 >12 hours remaining
11:02 sfan5 tfw
11:03 sfan5 now it's 3 hours
11:04 * ElectronLibre try to translate tfw.. He does'nt understand.. What is a flac?
11:04 sfan5 tfw = that face when
11:04 sfan5 FLAC = lossless audio codec
11:04 sfan5 codec = way to store pictures, videos, audio, subtitles ...
11:05 sfan5 http://www.urbandictionary.com/ is your friend
11:05 jp joined #minetest
11:05 ElectronLibre Ah, ok. I knew what is a codec but not what was a FLAC.
11:07 sfan5 10 € for a CD
11:07 sfan5 hm :/
11:08 ElectronLibre Ouch. What CD exactly?
11:08 sfan5 http://diverse-direct.com/al​stroemeria-records/arcd0041/
11:08 sfan5 good that there are torrents
11:08 sfan5 I just have to wait 3 hours
11:09 ElectronLibre 3h to wait < 10€ to pay :).
11:09 sfan5 :)
11:11 ElectronLibre Nobody can buy life.
11:11 LemonLake you'd be surprised
11:13 SylvieLorxu FLAC <3
11:13 ElectronLibre Probably someones think that they can but it's absolutly impossible :).
11:13 LemonLake Really?
11:14 ElectronLibre Hm... I guess.
11:15 asl saying a codec is a way to store image, video, audio and such data is very vague,  a codec is a encoder and decoder use to reduce (and compress) data such as image, video and audio for storage and decompress it when view
11:16 sfan5 asl: I was trying to explain it in a simple way
11:18 sfan5 what
11:19 sfan5 why did I limit download speed to 75 KB/s?
11:19 sfan5 wtf?
11:19 sfan5 ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
11:20 sfan5 now it's just 20 minutes
11:20 sfan5 <3
11:22 Flipsels joined #minetest
11:28 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
11:28 ElectronLibre Re. My Network connection got crashed...
11:29 nore joined #minetest
11:30 PenguinDad <3 Unvanquished
11:30 sfan5 <3 FLAC
11:31 sfan5 yay
11:31 ElectronLibre ?_? Wow, he really loves FLAC :D. I understand him.
11:31 sfan5 torrent 1 done
11:32 ElectronLibre How many torrents remaining?
11:33 sfan5 1
11:34 sfan5 https://twitter.com/madameherz​l0s/status/501048393104629760
11:34 sfan5 ಠ_ಠ
11:34 ElectronLibre What is his size?
11:34 sfan5 272.3 MB of 395.5 MB (68.8%), 507.9 kB Unverified
11:34 ElectronLibre Ok.
11:37 ImQ009 joined #minetest
11:37 * ElectronLibre try to open sfan5's link but he can juste get a blank page...
11:39 PenguinDad wtf 3 billion people
11:39 sfan5 both torrents are finishedf
11:39 sfan5 -f
11:39 sfan5 yay flacs
11:39 * sfan5 yays at LemonLake
11:40 ElectronLibre Congratulation sfan5.
11:40 sfan5 :P
11:40 ElectronLibre What PenguinDad?
11:40 sfan5 ElectronLibre: this is the important part: https://pbs.twimg.com/media​/BvQU2wlCEAAyQDv.jpg:large
11:41 rubenwardy At least she used '
11:42 rubenwardy 1/2 times
11:43 ElectronLibre I try to put every links in a text file to open them when I will have more than 700bytes/sec... ;)
11:44 PenguinDad yay someone with a connection slower than mine :D
11:46 ElectronLibre It's very good when you find anyone in a wrost situation than you. (Strange grammar no?)
11:47 SylvieLorxu 3... billion... people?
11:47 SylvieLorxu I had no clue the WTC was THAT big
11:48 PenguinDad About half of humanity would have been in there
11:51 * LemonLake yays at sfan5
11:51 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
11:52 ElectronLibre A cat *-*?
11:52 sfan5 yes
11:52 sfan5 I'm a cat
11:52 * ElectronLibre feed sfan5 ^^.
11:52 * sfan5 purrs
11:54 * ElectronLibre open the door for sfan5.
11:54 sfan5 which door?
11:54 sfan5 LemonLake: http://anisource.net/download/a06561​24f89fdb6e50911881ffb4d2442d2f94af/
11:54 sfan5 LemonLake: (torrent for the song I !tell'd you earlier)
11:55 LemonLake got no peers :/
11:55 ElectronLibre I don't know exactly x)... But if you want to walk the door is open.
11:55 LemonLake nvm
11:55 LemonLake just took a while
11:56 * PenguinDad gets a mese pickaxe and digs the door
11:56 sfan5 LemonLake: uTorrent?
11:57 ElectronLibre You don't need a mese pickaxe to dig a door, juste use ":" ^^'..
11:58 PenguinDad I thought it's a steel door
12:00 ElectronLibre Ah, no, it's just a wooden door ^^.
12:00 ElectronLibre But I could give you a default:pick_steel it's the minimum you need to dig a steel door :).
12:01 LemonLake sfan5: correct
12:02 Jordach http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/2dsy6a/mi​ght_be_a_long_shotbut_does_anyone_have_a/cjt471e
12:02 * Jordach starts laughing
12:02 ElectronLibre Hi Jordach :).
12:02 sfan5 o
12:02 sfan5 look
12:02 sfan5 a Jordach
12:03 ElectronLibre *-* Wow, I have never seen one.
12:03 LemonLake what the hell is zombocom
12:03 sfan5 Jordach: http://www.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/com​ments/2duz0i/psbattle_frog_chillin_big_time/
12:04 * ElectronLibre CTRL+c-CTRL+v.
12:04 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/r-uQ6yY5Z4Cb.png
12:05 sfan5 :o
12:05 Jordach 8.1 mother fuckers
12:05 Jordach OTA'd last night
12:05 sfan5 Jordach: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/uepmpA4owU5q.png
12:10 LemonLake shame
12:10 LemonLake cant play flac files
12:10 ElectronLibre It's sad..
12:10 LemonLake nvm, vlc can
12:11 sfan5 LemonLake: get mpv
12:11 Jordach right now i feel like a fat motherfucker
12:11 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/xDpN8b1It3tV.jpg
12:11 LemonLake does that even work on windows?
12:11 sfan5 yes
12:11 LemonLake oh cool
12:11 ElectronLibre What's Windows? ^^ Ho, I remember...
12:11 sfan5 Jordach: >jaffa cakes
12:12 sfan5 LemonLake: http://mplayer2.srsfckn.biz/
12:12 LemonLake vlc is sufficient
12:12 sfan5 nuu
12:12 LemonLake ElectronLibre: I've been doing a lot of stuff in Visual Studio and playing a lot of games lately, so currently I'm staying off the linux
12:12 sfan5 vlc sucks
12:12 LemonLake sfan5: no shits are given
12:12 sfan5 ik
12:12 ElectronLibre Ok LemonLake.
12:13 PenguinDad sfan5: +1
12:13 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
12:14 ElectronLibre Can you explain sfan5?
12:14 sfan5 why vlc sucks?
12:14 ElectronLibre Yes.
12:15 rubenwardy left #minetest
12:15 rubenwardy joined #minetest
12:16 sfan5 ElectronLibre: vlc fucks up playback hard if you use the network
12:16 sfan5 and it's subtitle rendering isn't the best
12:16 ElectronLibre Ok.
12:17 sfan5 wait
12:17 sfan5 I have an example
12:17 * ElectronLibre listen to the cute cat.
12:17 PenguinDad opengl-hq defaults were fixed in mpv \o/
12:18 sfan5 ElectronLibre: here's what happens if you play anime over network: https://mediacru.sh/tkBFOPIW7r7f
12:18 LemonLake those are some nice subs
12:18 ElectronLibre I never use network but I will test mpv.
12:19 LemonLake compared to the image
12:19 ElectronLibre I can't open any link my network connection is too poor.. But I copy-paste the link in a txt file to open it later :).
12:20 sfan5 LemonLake: Doki-subs according to the filename
12:20 sfan5 PenguinDad: opengl-hq no longer causes constant A-V desyncs?
12:21 ElectronLibre How many Mo have I got to download to install mpv?
12:21 ElectronLibre *Mb
12:21 sfan5 which OS?
12:21 ElectronLibre Me? Actually GNU/Linux Manjaro.
12:22 sfan5 ooh
12:22 sfan5 based on arch
12:22 sfan5 nice
12:22 PenguinDad sfan5: VDPAU causes constant A-V desyncs for me
12:22 ElectronLibre Yes :).
12:22 sfan5 ElectronLibre: I use https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mpv-git
12:22 PenguinDad opengl-hq did never do that
12:22 sfan5 it does for me
12:22 ElectronLibre Ok. Can I install it via Yaourt or Pacman?
12:23 sfan5 yaourt should work
12:23 ElectronLibre Ok, good, thanks :).
12:23 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: I'm not sure how french yogurt will help you installing mpv :P
12:24 sfan5 looks line opengl-hq does not caus desyncs anymore
12:24 ElectronLibre ^^ French Yogurt is not the best but Yaourt shell commmand could be useful.
12:24 ElectronLibre (How did you guess I'm French? ^^)
12:25 asie joined #minetest
12:25 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: yaourt is french for yogurt iirc
12:25 ElectronLibre Logic ^^.
12:27 sfan5 PenguinDad: opengl-hq desync is gone for me (with and without vaapi)
12:32 PenguinDad Nice that it works now
12:32 LemonLake making a tower in the bread hunter style is insanely difficult
12:32 sfan5 bread hunter style?
12:32 LemonLake ye
12:32 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
12:33 Tux[Qyou] joined #minetest
12:33 ElectronLibre Re... My Network Connection got crashed again...
12:33 Tux[Qyou] joined #minetest
12:33 sfan5 ElectronLibre: we see when you are back
12:33 sfan5 you don't need to say something
12:34 ElectronLibre Ok ok, just in case of...
12:34 LemonLake emergency
12:34 ElectronLibre Crash of the network connection is not an emergency, is it?
12:35 LemonLake nope
12:35 LemonLake just finishing your sentence.
12:35 ElectronLibre Ok, I will remember.
12:35 LemonLake ó.ó
12:35 ElectronLibre *remember that
12:35 LemonLake there's nothing to remember there.
12:36 ElectronLibre Hm, remember to don't say "Re"?
12:36 LemonLake what the hell does Re mean?
12:36 ElectronLibre Hm, I'm back.
12:36 PenguinDad Reh :P
12:36 LemonLake yes, we're aware of that
12:36 LemonLake you're really confusing me
12:36 ElectronLibre Si, i didn't say anything and it's good?
12:36 ElectronLibre Ok ok.
12:38 LemonLake ó.ó
12:38 ElectronLibre I'm strange I know...
12:39 LemonLake yes I noticed
12:39 nore <LemonLake> what the hell does Re mean? <-- "re-" is a prefix in French that means something like "again"
12:39 LemonLake ugh
12:39 PenguinDad xD http://thedailywtf.com/Articl​es/The-Ouroboros-Request.aspx
12:40 LemonLake im so brainfucked right now
12:40 nore (hm.. it also exists in English ("redo"))
12:40 ElectronLibre +1 nore, I usually use it and I've forgotten it isn't translatable...
12:40 ElectronLibre Hm, does translatable mean anything?
12:40 jp traductible
12:41 nore ElectronLibre: even your name shows you're French :)
12:41 sfan5 nore: +++++[>+++++<-]. ?
12:41 ElectronLibre nore: Yes it isn't difficult to guess :D.
12:41 sfan5 oh wait
12:41 sfan5 oops
12:42 sfan5 LemonLake: +++++[>+++++<-]. ?
12:42 zash "Regarding" mayhaps?
12:42 nore sfan5: you forgot a few chars, didn't you?
12:42 sfan5 nore: why that?
12:42 sfan5 !c 5*5
12:42 MinetestBot 25
12:42 LemonLake sfan, idk but that seems uninterpretable
12:42 sfan5 !c chr(5*5)
12:42 MinetestBot '\x19'
12:42 ElectronLibre It prints "Hello World" doesn't it?
12:42 sfan5 !c ord("H"), ord("i")
12:42 MinetestBot (72, 105)
12:42 nore yes, and what your code does is to print chr(0)
12:43 sfan5 ooh
12:43 sfan5 forgot a >
12:43 LemonLake sfan5: it prints nothing. gj
12:43 nore (but why do you want to print chr(25)?)
12:43 sfan5 (idk)
12:43 sfan5 !c 72 / 7
12:43 MinetestBot 10.285714285714286
12:43 sfan5 !c 72 / 6
12:43 MinetestBot 12.0
12:43 LemonLake ElectronLibre: nowhere near hello world
12:44 LemonLake ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+​>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>​.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++.
12:44 LemonLake that's hello world
12:44 ElectronLibre Ouch...
12:44 LemonLake My guess is that sfan's brainfuck is supposed to print 'Hi'
12:44 * ElectronLibre prefer C or Lua, or Python..
12:44 * nore writes a quick bf interpreter to test that...
12:44 LemonLake nore: just use an existing one?
12:44 nore LemonLake: not fun enough :)
12:45 LemonLake http://esoteric.sange.fi/br​ainfuck/impl/interp/i.html http://www.iamcal.com/misc/bf_debug/ http://brainfuck.tk/ http://copy.sh/brainfuck/
12:45 PenguinDad Brainfuck Controller :P
12:45 * Jordach wants MineFuck
12:45 Jordach make minetest mods using BF
12:45 sfan5 ++++++++++++[>++++++<-]>.<++++++[>+++++<-]>+++.
12:45 LemonLake whoa dude
12:46 LemonLake someone made a mandelbrot set fractal viewer in brainfuck
12:46 sfan5 <LemonLake> My guess is that sfan's brainfuck is supposed to print 'Hi'
12:46 sfan5 can you see into the future?
12:46 LemonLake <sfan5> !c ord("H"), ord("i")
12:46 sfan5 after the random bf code I told you I did literally that
12:46 sfan5 oh..
12:46 sfan5 anyway
12:46 sfan5 ++++++++++++[>++++++<-]>.<++++++[>+++++<-]>+++. prints Hi
12:47 ElectronLibre °_°
12:47 jp Who's hungry ? http://i.imgur.com/el7P6oY.png
12:48 Jordach jp, https://mediacru.sh in future
12:48 ElectronLibre It's a really horrible language...
12:48 Jordach has clipboard pasting as well as almost all media files
12:48 jp Jordach : why ?
12:48 sfan5 jp: I don't think the minetest logo tastes good :P
12:48 Jordach jp, and doesn't take total COPYRIGHT CONTROL of that IMAGE
12:48 Jordach </inner_calinou>
12:48 sfan5 lol
12:49 jp Jordach : ok, got it :/
12:49 Jordach made a nice texture for MT and put it on imgur?
12:49 jp sfan5 : :P
12:49 jp 64x64 limiting
12:50 jp pixels
12:50 * Jordach also learned that nodeboxes do not z-fight
12:51 LemonLake then which is prioritized?
12:52 LemonLake FIFO?
12:53 * nore confirms that LemonLake's bf code prints "Hello world!"
12:53 nore I was slow :(
12:54 PenguinDad glasslike_framed nodes do z-fight :(
12:54 ElectronLibre All this code to print "Hello World!"!? It's absolutly horrible...
12:54 Jordach PenguinDad, and nodeboxes are always better ;3
12:54 PenguinDad Jordach: not for tanks
12:56 * Jordach wonders why Jordach's own stuff never has problems
12:57 * ElectronLibre is away.
13:04 proller joined #minetest
13:16 rubenwardy NodeBoxes are a single mesh, so do not Z-fight
13:16 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
13:19 ispn http://img.myepicwall.com/2014/08/4​eee143439a964aeea631b0c16952014.gif
13:20 sfan5 :D
13:20 PenguinDad CD in a microwave I guess
13:21 zash All the things in a microwave!
13:21 zash For science!
13:22 ElectronLibre Like will it blend?
13:22 PenguinDad zash: don't put your cat/dog in a microwave
13:22 zash PenguinDad: Is a cat/dog a thing?
13:23 jp grape in microwave = plasma ball
13:24 sfan5 linux on microwave = yay
13:24 sfan5 oh
13:25 sfan5 this is why it looked familiar
13:25 sfan5 *opens irc logs*
13:26 PenguinDad zash: According to german law animals are things
13:27 sfan5 !tell hoodedice please ping me
13:27 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when hoodedice is around
13:30 sfan5 woah
13:30 sfan5 lol
13:32 ElectronLibre Good bye everyone.
13:33 ElectronLibre left #minetest
13:42 jp http://www.minetest.net/download  -> Android section, could you change the file extension .apk.zip by just .apk, please ?
13:42 jp Easier to install only from Android.
13:43 PenguinDad jp: complain at github please
13:43 jp complain != request
13:43 PenguinDad jp: Github doesn't allow uploading apks
13:43 sfan5 jp: github doesn't allow us to upload .apks
13:44 jp oh, ok
13:45 jp why not MT on Google Play ?
13:47 Tux[Qyou] joined #minetest
13:48 asl sfan5, PenguinDad: i thought you can upload apks in the release menu where it say `Attach binaries by dropping them here or  selecting them.`?
13:48 sfan5 ahaha
13:48 sfan5 I found a bug
13:48 sfan5 when you upload a 0 byte file it says "Yowza, that's a big file.  Try again with a file smaller than 1GB."
13:49 sfan5 asl: apparently it works now
13:49 sfan5 it didn't when we released 0.4.10
13:49 Jordach sfan5, you can put apk's on Github
13:49 Jordach Yaaic does that
13:51 PenguinDad Jordach: I don't see any apk downloads here https://github.com/pocmo/Yaaic/releases
13:51 Jordach PenguinDad, there used to be
13:51 asie joined #minetest
13:53 unclouded joined #minetest
13:59 rubenwardy left #minetest
14:09 eugd joined #minetest
14:12 VargaD_ joined #minetest
14:14 Flipsels joined #minetest
14:14 Scall joined #minetest
14:20 * Jordach uses a lot of Wi-Fi https://cdn.mediacru.sh/1HnmWzsorgJu.png
14:20 Jordach ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
14:23 hmmmm joined #minetest
14:25 VargaD joined #minetest
14:33 proller joined #minetest
14:52 eugd joined #minetest
14:58 Wuzzy joined #minetest
15:00 twoelk joined #minetest
15:01 _Esteban joined #minetest
15:01 Jordach hai _Esteban
15:02 _Esteban hi!
15:02 * Jordach waits to play Sanctum 2
15:03 * _Esteban works on Krock's drawing request
15:04 sapier joined #minetest
15:14 rubenwardy joined #minetest
15:15 rubenwardy Hi all!
15:15 jp hi
15:16 * sfan5 meows at _Esteban
15:16 * PenguinDad hands rubenwardy a hand
15:18 * _Esteban meows at sfan5
15:18 sfan5 yay
15:21 OldCoder joined #minetest
15:24 Cylus joined #minetest
15:27 eugd joined #minetest
15:36 deltib joined #minetest
15:57 LazyJ joined #minetest
16:03 iqualfragile joined #minetest
16:03 deltib joined #minetest
16:04 turtleman_ joined #minetest
16:06 jp joined #minetest
16:08 SylvieLorxu joined #minetest
16:11 jp joined #minetest
16:18 Krock joined #minetest
16:18 * Jordach had a haircut
16:18 Jordach from RMS to a normal person
16:19 sfan5 plol
16:20 Krock HELLOOO
16:21 grendal joined #minetest
16:21 grendal hey guys trying to get animals working and im getting an error about..mobf?
16:21 Krock pastebin last 20 lines of debug.txt please
16:22 grendal i cant find any info on where this mod dependency. is
16:22 Krock hmm?
16:23 grendal i downloaded this https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack  and put it into the users .minetest/mods/  dir (this is on an ubuntu system)
16:24 grendal it shows up in the configureation for the world but then just does not load the animals and complains about not having a dependent mobf mod.
16:24 sapier grendal:  use the zip provided on forum you need at least advanced_spawning for mobf to really work
16:25 sapier of course you can download it manually https://github.com/sapier/adv_spawning https://github.com/sapier/factions
16:37 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
16:41 iqualfragile joined #minetest
16:42 asie joined #minetest
16:46 domtron joined #minetest
16:46 domtron left #minetest
16:48 Calinou joined #minetest
16:49 rubenwardy !seen Jeija
16:49 MinetestBot rubenwardy: jeija was last seen at 2014-04-25 17:05:58 UTC on #minetest
16:49 zat joined #minetest
16:51 ElectronLibre Wow. It's an IRC command to get last connection day of a member? ^^
16:51 nore no, it's a bot command :)
16:52 ElectronLibre Cool. An Operator command?
16:53 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: everyone who isn't ignored by MinetestBot can do that
16:53 ElectronLibre I try.
16:53 PenguinDad !seen domtron
16:53 MinetestBot PenguinDad: domtron was last seen at 2014-08-18 21:46:50 UTC on #minetest
16:53 ElectronLibre !seen MinetestForFun
16:53 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestforfun around.
16:54 jp___ joined #minetest
16:54 ElectronLibre Ok. So he didn't came here... interesting..
16:54 PenguinDad ''seen MinetestForFun
16:54 HLuaBot Unknown command "seen". Try "help".
16:54 PenguinDad ''help
16:54 HLuaBot Commands: reload, load, unload, plugins, op, deop, devoice, voice, join, part, help, uptime, echo, raw, eval, quit, more, ping, shutdown, config, tell -- Use 'help <command name>' to get help with a specific command.
16:55 ElectronLibre So, / is for IRC commands, ! for Bot commands and '' for LuaBot?
16:55 jp___ yes
16:55 zash Maybe.
16:55 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: ! is usual for bot commands but some bots use other prefixes
16:56 ElectronLibre Cool. Thanks for the information.
16:56 zash Bot command prefixes would depend on the bot and irc commands, while usually prefixed by /, also depend on the client.
16:56 ElectronLibre So Bots can be programed? Interesting...
16:57 grendal joined #minetest
16:58 _Esteban left #minetest
16:59 reactor joined #minetest
17:00 q66 joined #minetest
17:14 werwerwer joined #minetest
17:26 proller joined #minetest
17:32 LemonLake mpv refuses to start
17:33 Ritchie joined #minetest
17:33 sfan5 LemonLake: how are you trying to start it?
17:33 LemonLake mpv.exe
17:34 sfan5 mpv only plays videos
17:34 sfan5 mpv doesn't play nothing
17:34 sfan5 drag a video on mpv.exe
17:34 LemonLake i see
17:34 LemonLake and is it supposed to play the music you sent me earlier?
17:35 PenguinDad or start from a terminal
17:35 sfan5 LemonLake: yes
17:35 LemonLake it has a dos version
17:35 LemonLake im sold
17:36 sfan5 LemonLake: you may want to add "ESC set fullscreen no" to input.conf (dunno where it is on windows, google pls) if you prefer mpv not exiting when you press ESC
17:40 LemonLake okay, it has a very short buffer
17:41 LemonLake making the music pratically inaudible
17:41 LemonLake this is quite complicated, im going back to vlc
17:42 Jordach and this is why MPV will never get major adoption
17:42 LemonLake lol
17:42 Jordach it doesn't work like people want it to
17:42 sfan5 LemonLake: config option "buffer 8192"
17:42 LemonLake im lazy
17:42 LemonLake hush
17:42 sfan5 Jordach: but you can configure it
17:43 Jordach sfan5, tell that to modern OSes
17:43 sfan5 Windows is not a modern OS
17:44 Jordach sfan5, 2014 and people still make a fuss about outdated tech called cmd
17:45 sfan5 lolwat
17:45 rubenwardy joined #minetest
17:45 sfan5 the command line is not an outdated tech (atleast not on non-windows OSs)
17:45 rubenwardy joined #minetest
17:46 sfan5 the command line is a powerful thing
17:46 sfan5 rubenwardy: use SASL, we can see your host before you auth
17:46 jp joined #minetest
17:46 rubenwardy Using a weird client, so I don't think I can.
17:46 rubenwardy I do when I use hexchat
17:46 rubenwardy left #minetest
17:46 PenguinDad Jordach: Try to use ffmpeg to its full extent with a gui
17:46 sfan5 ^
17:46 sfan5 this
17:46 sfan5 so much
17:47 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/ya6sn5G.png
17:48 PenguinDad Colored lights :D
17:49 PenguinDad Mobf really is awesome http://paste.ubuntu.com/8081658/
17:51 jp very impressive, RBA
17:52 LemonLake nice rba
17:52 LemonLake how did you do that?
17:54 RealBadAngel me? nah, its irrlicht
17:54 LemonLake is this a new minetest feature, though?
17:54 RealBadAngel im testing irrlicht lights
17:54 LemonLake ah
17:54 LemonLake will it be added to the api?
17:54 VanessaE *gasp*
17:54 jp for a nightclub <3
17:54 VanessaE colored lights?
17:56 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/wHjL1dJ.png
17:56 LemonLake i just noticed how nice of an effect that has on the background
17:56 VanessaE very nice, RealBadAngel
17:56 VanessaE very nice indeed
17:56 VanessaE how much change to the map data did it take
17:56 VanessaE ?
17:56 Mikeonline joined #minetest
17:56 Mikeonline hi
17:56 ElectronLibre Wow, very beautiful, nice work RealBadAngel.
17:57 ElectronLibre Hi Mikeonline.
17:57 LemonLake ElectronLibre: you don't need to welcome everyone who joins
17:57 Calinou heh, coloured light
17:57 Calinou in before totally broken in most use cases :(
17:57 Calinou is this hardware lighting?
17:57 Calinou looks like so, judging at the bottom of the screenshot
17:57 RealBadAngel on the screenshot you can see totally disabled mt lighting
17:58 RealBadAngel and added 3 irrlicht lightsources
17:58 Calinou :'(
17:58 RealBadAngel no need for extra rendering passes or whatever
17:58 Calinou so, pointless
17:58 RealBadAngel its not pointless, it works
17:59 LemonLake RealBadAngel: will this be in the luaapi?
17:59 ElectronLibre Sorry LemonLake... it's what I usualy do on minetest so I do the same here... I stop it :).
17:59 RealBadAngel api?
17:59 LemonLake ye
17:59 RealBadAngel you propably will just set the color of your lightsource in nodedef
18:00 LemonLake yeah
18:00 LemonLake will that be added to the game?
18:00 VanessaE RealBadAngel: how far from actually being able to use this in practice is it?
18:00 RealBadAngel irrlicht lights will replace current lighting system
18:00 Calinou 1) performance depends on amount of light sources 2) shadows? 3) how do you get a node's light level?
18:00 LemonLake %
18:00 LemonLake ^
18:00 LemonLake ^
18:00 RealBadAngel old one will be used only for light level calculations at a pos
18:00 LemonLake Actually, fair point Calinou
18:01 LemonLake But technically the game could be tricking itself into using lightlevels but not actually emitting said light
18:01 VanessaE so server knows generically the light level
18:01 LemonLake thus allowing to still get the light level
18:01 LemonLake exactly
18:01 VanessaE but the client calculates it precisely for display purposes
18:01 VanessaE in hardware
18:01 LemonLake ^
18:01 VanessaE (I talk good english! :D :)
18:02 RealBadAngel Calinou, ad 1) we will see, 2) irrlicht does that 3) old code run server side
18:02 sapier modders what about making formspec positions consistent?
18:03 LemonLake sapier: adding true to the end of size[] does this
18:03 VanessaE I expect that, in practice, performance will be unaffected even with hundreds of visible light sources
18:03 VanessaE or perhaps even thousands.
18:03 sapier consistent not fixed
18:03 VanessaE this isn't 1985, video cards are not THAT slow anymore
18:03 LemonLake VanessaE: however OpenGL only allows (8) hardware light sources?
18:03 LemonLake not too sure
18:03 Calinou not everyone can afford buying a new PC or graphics card, VanessaE
18:03 LemonLake ^
18:03 sapier e.g. if you place a button at 2,2 it's different then a field at 2,2
18:03 Calinou VanessaE, eg. Tesseract handles lots of lights poorly
18:03 Calinou and extremely poorly if they're volumetric 8)
18:04 Calinou real time lights are expensive
18:04 Calinou LemonLake, you can surely put more than 8 real time lights
18:04 LemonLake that's what I thought
18:04 Calinou to improve performance, set small lights as shadow-less
18:04 VanessaE Calinou: I mean literally, 1985.
18:04 LemonLake I'm just going off something I was told back when I thought about using hardware lights in an old game
18:04 Calinou or static shadows only (no shadows from entities)
18:04 VanessaE as in, any decent gfx card can handle this
18:04 VanessaE this is not new tech at all
18:04 LemonLake that is true
18:05 sapier what's framerate good for as long as  some mods consume 1s in server step?
18:05 VanessaE if your card is newer than 20 years old, you'll probably have no trouble with hardware lighting
18:05 VanessaE besides, who says it has to be *realtime*
18:05 LemonLake ^
18:05 VanessaE nothing says you have to constantly update the lighting calculations every frame
18:05 LemonLake it can be calculated at an interval
18:05 VanessaE set it once and leave it there until the light itself is *moved*
18:05 LemonLake i.e. update whenever a node is changed
18:05 Calinou sapier, yeah, your mod 8)
18:05 VanessaE exactly.
18:06 VanessaE sapier: frame rate is more important than server step, because a laggy server is less jarring on the eyes than a jittery, jerky display
18:06 sapier Calinou: sorry but I'm not author of farming
18:06 RealBadAngel minetest wont be calculating anything
18:06 sapier I wrote one years ago but it's abbadoned for ages
18:07 RealBadAngel it will be just adding or removing lightsources from the scene
18:07 RealBadAngel and lightlevel will be done by stripped down old lighting code on server side
18:07 Calinou Minetest has very high tolerance for lag
18:07 Calinou compared to most FPSes
18:08 RealBadAngel so server wont give two shits how does it look like
18:08 RealBadAngel its only matter of a client
18:08 sapier Calinou: that's completely wrong once there are moving objects there's almost no tolerance at all
18:09 sapier 1s lag is way to big to be unnoticed
18:09 Mikeonline has someone compile mtserver on centos?
18:09 Mikeonline +d
18:09 Calinou 1s lag makes any FPS unplayable
18:10 Calinou vote-kicked
18:10 Calinou no one will do that on Minetest :P
18:10 reactor Mikeonline: how's Centos different from other Linux-based OS?
18:10 sapier centos == redhat
18:10 reactor Somebody must have.
18:11 PenguinDad I once got kicked from a teeworlds server because of my high lag :D
18:11 * Krock added a simple mudflow for yappymapgen
18:11 reactor PenguinDad: lucky, because I once got kicked in the nuts for mine.
18:12 PenguinDad Ewww mudflow
18:12 Mikeonline reactor: it cant find cmake path for sqlite but it worked in past and sqlite+devel is installed
18:12 Mikeonline past as 0.4.4
18:13 LemonLake past as?
18:13 Mikeonline meaning "past" as minestest 0.4.4 compilation
18:13 LemonLake how about using the latest minetest vresion?
18:14 sfan5 Mikeonline: what problem did you run into?
18:15 Mikeonline sfan5: i got 2 errors that cmake cant find sqlite3 and json
18:15 sfan5 Mikeonline: tried setting the paths manually?
18:15 sfan5 and json?
18:15 sfan5 minetest shouldn't try to search for json
18:15 Mikeonline i havent done this ever
18:15 sfan5 it's included
18:15 sfan5 which files are in the sqlite-devel package?
18:16 Mikeonline see private
18:16 sfan5 kk
18:18 * Krock gives PenguinDad http://i.imgur.com/GUEPTsB.png
18:20 * PenguinDad vomits a frame pointer
18:21 ElectronLibre left #minetest
18:23 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
18:24 FreeFull How does the durability of diamond pickaxes compare to shovels?
18:25 FreeFull I'm wondering if it would be better to  use a shovel for sandstone
18:26 sfan5 FreeFull: looked into the source?
18:27 ImQ009 joined #minetest
18:29 FreeFull Figured I'd ask first
18:32 FreeFull I have no idea how the durability system works
18:34 sfan5 I haven't either..
18:34 FreeFull The entries for diamond pick and diamond shovel look identical
18:34 FreeFull So I guess it's better to use the shovel,
18:36 _Esteban joined #minetest
18:37 _Esteban Finished Krock's request: http://i.imgur.com/i3h8OOr.jpg
18:38 * Krock gives _Esteban a cookie
18:38 sfan5 _Esteban: can you consider not using imgur, it compressed the images and makes them look worse
18:38 * Krock gives _Esteban 1336 cokies
18:38 sfan5 _Esteban: try https://mediacru.sh
18:38 khonkhortisan joined #minetest
18:38 sfan5 _Esteban: nice drawing btw
18:39 _Esteban thanks, ill go make an account right away!
18:39 PenguinDad Accounts at mediacru.sh that's new to me
18:40 sfan5 _Esteban: there are no accounts but it saves which media you uploaded at https://mediacru.sh/mine
18:41 _Esteban I realize that now, I was reading the "About" info :P
18:41 PenguinDad except you disabled that
18:41 sfan5 unless*
18:46 _Esteban brb
18:46 _Esteban left #minetest
18:46 Exio4 my drawing skills are shit
18:46 Exio4 i'm jelly
18:47 * sfan5 eats Exio4
18:47 sfan5 (you said you were jelly)
18:47 Miner_48er joined #minetest
18:48 * ElectronLibre doen't want to become jelly.
18:52 Sokomine guess the inhabitants of this village will have a *slight* problem: http://www.picfront.org/d/9aie
18:53 sfan5 Sokomine: yes they do :P
18:53 VanessaE Sokomine: EEK
18:53 VanessaE talk about a sinkhole
18:53 VanessaE :)
18:54 Sokomine *g* perhaps that way they're safe from griefing players :)
18:54 sfan5 :D
18:54 PenguinDad Where's the problem?
18:55 ImQ009 joined #minetest
18:55 Sokomine nothing. it's just...a bit...difficult to get down there alive. and back up :-)
18:56 Miner_48er joined #minetest
18:56 ElectronLibre How does he did?? I can't see any stair. (fly?)
18:56 ElectronLibre *Does they.
18:57 Sokomine electronlibre: you've got to ask the villagers once they'll spawn i guess...currently they don't do that yet
18:57 VanessaE ElectronLibre: that's an auto-generated village
18:57 Sokomine it's especially bad that they're lumberjacks who want to sell wood. and then they live in such a hole...probably didn't earn enough money and moved out :)
18:58 ElectronLibre Ok, I didn't see auto-generated villages like that, generaly traders' home, or little village with mg mod..
18:58 ElectronLibre *I haven't seen
18:58 Sokomine the algorithm doesn't take height into account yet. for large villages, that works pretty well (chances of having a handy shore nearby are high)
18:59 Sokomine it's an extension of the mg mod. the basic village generation is still that of mg's geerator. except that i've added more villages, replacement of materials, and made it useable with other mapgens
18:59 ElectronLibre (* I've never seen is better) Ok, interesting, I will look at this later.
19:00 luizrpgluiz joined #minetest
19:00 luizrpgluiz hi
19:01 luizrpgluiz someone has already created some npc for some mod?
19:01 Sokomine there are several mob mods out there, yes. what are you looking for?
19:02 ElectronLibre Hmm.. there are some in animal_modpack. Who made it? PilzAdam no?
19:02 Sokomine animal_modpack? sounds more like sapiers mobf package
19:02 ElectronLibre Yes, sapier, sorry.
19:03 sapier no problem there'S only the trader home in animals modpack not a village
19:03 Sokomine well, animals_modpack contains some very nice animals and works very well in singleplayer
19:03 PenguinDad animals_modpack is crashy as hell here
19:03 sapier PenguinDad: can you give me the error log?
19:04 PenguinDad sapier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8081658/
19:04 Sokomine did i say already that i hate it when a programming language is not able to figure out if a variable has been declared yet? :-/
19:05 luizrpgluiz because I wanted to create a small group to recreate the mod Minecolony only for Minetest
19:06 sapier PenguinDad: that's a lua bug simplest way to fix it is installing luasocket ... will enable mobf to do correct cpu accounting too
19:08 sapier PenguinDad: once mod profiling is merged I can use that timesource instead of buggy lua one but it's gonna be some time till there
19:10 sapier any other crashes PenguinDad?
19:12 proller how many years you fix mobf crashes ?
19:13 PenguinDad sapier: due to that I'm not able to discover other crashes
19:14 sapier well if you don't want to install luasocket you can remove the assert but lua consuming negative time is just wrong ;-)
19:14 sapier guess it's gonna completely mess up mobfs lag prevention algorithm
19:15 ElectronLibre left #minetest
19:16 Sokomine what does minecolony do?
19:16 Sokomine oh. negative time :-) nice. so there's a time machinei n it? :-)
19:17 PenguinDad sapier: it only crashes for me when using luajit
19:18 sapier maybe luajit is doing incorrect optimization
19:18 sapier two following calls to os.clock() should in worst case result in a time difference of 0
19:19 sapier the assert checks for <0 so for some reason you see negative times happening
19:19 sapier meaning a following call to os.clock() returns a smaller time then a previous one
19:19 sapier PenguinDad: what pc do you have?
19:19 sapier I've heared about that bug on intel atom by now
19:21 PenguinDad My CPU is a AMD Phenom II
19:21 sapier strange ... I've got same cpu
19:21 sapier you say it's luajit only?
19:21 Calinou the Atoms have a very different architecture compared to desktop Intel CPUs
19:21 Calinou eg. they're in-order
19:22 luizrpgluiz minecolony is a mod where you create and develop a small colony
19:22 sapier Calinou: partial
19:22 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
19:22 sapier intel uses it's names for almost anything
19:22 sapier for what i know there even exists a core based atom in between
19:24 sapier but as I use a phenom II myself but usually don't use luajit ... it's not debuggable ... this might be some chance to reproduce it
19:24 luizrpgluiz someone wants to form a group of moders?
19:24 PenguinDad sapier: the negative time reporting also happens on normal lua but it doesn't lead to crash
19:26 ElectronLibre luizrpgluiz: I'm not a very good entity moder... but if you've got some questions i'm here to answer them, or better if I find enough time :).
19:27 Sokomine luizrpgluiz: quite a lot of modders will read and write in this irc channel :-)
19:27 sapier PenguinDad: that's a different case ... hmm guess I should've handled it this way there too
19:27 ElectronLibre Or go here : #minetest-mods, but it's very calm.
19:27 sapier still negative time will result in unpredictable results I don't know how much lag you might get
19:28 luizrpgluiz I am thinking about creating a mod I've seen in minecraft called minecolony
19:28 ElectronLibre What does it do exactly?
19:29 asie joined #minetest
19:29 luizrpgluiz I spend a site that talks about it by private message?
19:34 sapier PenguinDad: could you download adv_spawning from git I pushed a slightly better handling ... yet the main issue is broken time source
19:37 Sokomine luizrpgluiz: spawning and placing buildings works well. we also have no trouble with adding new content - over 4000 diffrent types of blocks in a single game are no problem
19:38 Sokomine however, mobs...are a diffrent matter. they are either incredibly stupid and will fall down the first hole that'll show up (ok, with flat villages or players caring about them, that's less of a problem) or be part of a rather complex modpack (like sapiers animals modpack)
19:41 Sokomine perhaps, with the village structure (roads and places of houses) known, a more intelligent movement generator might be possible
19:55 Weedy joined #minetest
19:55 Weedy joined #minetest
19:56 Sokomine a bit too many trees: http://www.picfront.org/d/9aih
19:57 sylvieL joined #minetest
19:57 FungusAdam joined #minetest
19:57 realbadangel_ joined #minetest
19:58 VanessaE wow
19:58 VanessaE yeah, just a little overboard on the trees there, darlin'
19:58 GhostDoge joined #minetest
19:58 tyteen4a04 joined #minetest
19:58 Wuzzy joined #minetest
19:59 ^v joined #minetest
19:59 ElectronLibre *charging picture* I think I will suicide if my network connection stay as poor as now... (Correct grammar?)
20:00 Sokomine at least it's easy to enter the village now! just walk on top of the leaves until you hit the center of the village. choose a convenient nearby roof to climb down to the road. works well
20:00 Sokomine still, it doesn't look to bad. really overgrown :-)
20:00 PenguinDad sapier: the crashes are fixed now
20:01 pcsolutions joined #minetest
20:01 VanessaE ElectronLibre: "I think I'll commit suicide if my network connection stays as poor as it is now."
20:01 sapier luasocket or latest version?
20:02 ElectronLibre What is exactly the square on the right top of the screenshot?
20:02 Sokomine electronlibre: that's gsmapper
20:03 ElectronLibre Good, I tried mapper mod but he crashed minetest core x). I will try it, it's very interesting.
20:03 PenguinDad It works perfectly without luasocket it only complains once short after loading the map about the negative time
20:04 Sokomine electronlibre: you have to apply a patch to the code
20:05 * PenguinDad doesn't like gsmapper
20:05 Sokomine why not? it's not perfect but at least an intresting approach. what are your problems with it?
20:06 ElectronLibre Ok, I will download it..
20:06 Sokomine a less overgrown village (mostly due to trees that are more slim and instead higher): http://www.picfront.org/d/9aii
20:11 PenguinDad My problem with gsmapper is it's licensing
20:12 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
20:13 Sokomine penguindad: hmm. that applies to integrating it into the official version only
20:13 PenguinDad *its
20:14 Sokomine if that's all...can't you talk to gsmanners?
20:15 Sokomine my own problems with gsmapper are of a diffrent nature. i'd want to scale the hud images on the fly, enlarge it when i want to take a look at the map, and keep it tiny otherwise
20:15 Sokomine plus it shows onyl a tiny part of the map
20:22 proller joined #minetest
20:26 jin_xi joined #minetest
20:42 Flipsels joined #minetest
20:43 Vazon joined #minetest
20:56 Miner_48er what are the advantages of curl for a server?
20:58 luizrpgluiz please anyone in this room speak Portuguese in Portugal or Spanish?
21:01 ElectronLibre There is a Spanish channel if you want : ##minetest-es.
21:04 Mikeonline n8
21:04 ElectronLibre What?
21:04 ElectronLibre Can you define n8 please? x)
21:04 PenguinDad N8 == Night
21:04 VanessaE "night'
21:04 VanessaE "
21:04 ElectronLibre Ok.
21:05 ElectronLibre Ah, [neit] ~ [naigt] Ok.
21:09 NakedFury joined #minetest
21:14 Mikeonline :P
21:14 Mikeonline gn8 :P
21:15 ElectronLibre *good night?
21:15 PenguinDad yup
21:16 ElectronLibre It's not very difficult to guess finaly... But I prefer (approximativly) correct and (near) good grammar :).
21:17 PenguinDad Gravity Night :P
21:19 ElectronLibre No, it's terribly difficult to translate in english finally...
21:19 ThatGraemeGuy joined #minetest
21:19 JamesTait joined #minetest
21:19 Mikeonline ElectronLibre: n7+1 :-P
21:20 Mikeonline n7++;
21:21 ElectronLibre Hum, int n7 = 0;n7 ++;?
21:21 ElectronLibre print("%d", n7); --> n8!
21:25 Mikeonline :P
21:25 Mikeonline system is shutting down for maintenance now
21:25 luizrpgluiz ok
21:25 Mikeonline left #minetest
21:26 * PenguinDad is entering runlevel 1337
21:26 phantombeta joined #minetest
21:38 Megaf joined #minetest
21:47 ElectronLibre joined #minetest
21:50 ElectronLibre left #minetest
21:55 Eater4 joined #minetest
21:56 Exio4 joined #minetest
21:58 jordan__ joined #minetest
21:59 jordan__ joined #minetest
22:00 jordan4ibanez joined #minetest
22:05 Yepoleb_ joined #minetest
22:06 kahrl_ joined #minetest
22:07 luizrpgluiz joined #minetest
22:11 hmmmm joined #minetest
22:12 proller joined #minetest
22:27 LemonLake my my
22:28 LemonLake shits been going down in here
22:32 Megaf I dont know
22:32 Megaf Im still here
22:33 Megaf well, gonna watch a movie and sleep, good night
22:57 NakedFury joined #minetest
23:00 zat luizrpgluiz asked me to join his team to make a mod inspired by https://sites.google.com/site/minecolony/
23:01 ImQ009 joined #minetest
23:23 Cylus joined #minetest
23:29 ana_ joined #minetest
23:29 ana_ left #minetest
23:37 luizrpgluiz joined #minetest
23:43 luizrpgluiz left #minetest
23:46 turtleman_ joined #minetest

| Channels | #minetest index | Today | | Google Search | Plaintext