Time Nick Message 00:01 dotDeb is there a minimap mod/key? 00:02 dotDeb cool 00:02 dotDeb is there sprint? 00:03 dotDeb ty 00:03 dotDeb how do you use it 00:04 dotDeb ok thanks 00:10 lemonlake_ How does one install a lib? 00:11 blaise what do you mean? 00:11 lemonlake_ idk 00:11 lemonlake_ faces 00:11 blaise what operating system 00:11 blaise what lib ? 00:13 lemonlake_ idk 00:13 lemonlake_ toes 00:25 lemonlake_ It has been revolutionized. 00:59 Exio4 Ich bin ein Mann! 01:00 Exio4 duolingo lol 01:03 Exio4 Er ist != Du bist ;_; 01:05 Exio4 what is the difference between Junge and Kind_ 01:05 Exio4 what is the difference between Junge and Kind? 01:06 dotDeb exio4 Kind = child, Junge = boy 01:07 Exio4 like kind ~= kid? 01:08 dotDeb exio4 I think so 01:10 Exio4 Ich esse Brot 01:10 Exio4 funny phrases 01:10 dotDeb Ist gut? 01:10 dotDeb *Ist es gut? 01:11 Exio4 hey! this is just my first lesson! 01:11 Exio4 i've to learn "der, die, das, Milch, trinkst, isst" now 01:11 Exio4 xP 01:12 dotDeb exio4 i don't speak german 01:12 dotDeb I did duolingo too 01:12 Exio4 ahm 01:12 Exio4 duolingo is neat 01:14 Exio4 Die Frau! 01:40 * blaise facepalms 02:18 kahrl https://twitter.com/shitduosays 02:22 Exio4 rofl 02:52 blaise anyone have any idea who the culpret is on this one? http://pastebin.com/6YCaxvNt 02:52 blaise is it technic, pipeworks, or default ? 02:54 ArchZombie1y *pokes channel* anyone alive? 03:00 blaise yeah 03:00 blaise not many, but a few 03:08 kahrl blaise: the pipeworks/item_transport.lua I see online has only 480 lines 03:08 kahrl where did you get yours? 03:10 VanessaE blaise: I believe this particular issue is a bug in mesecons 03:10 VanessaE it has been reported before 03:10 VanessaE but it's not 100% certain where the problem actually lies. 03:11 VanessaE https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/164 03:11 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/69 03:11 VanessaE correction, it was fixed :P 03:11 VanessaE update mesecons. 03:11 VanessaE and as kahrl suggested, make sure your pipeworks is legit. 03:13 VanessaE meanwhile, small announcement for the two people who are awake at this hour: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2041&p=151420#p151420 03:40 Cylus VanessaE: Sweet! 03:41 Cylus I'm always a fan of pages that actually pass W3C validation. THere are so few of them out there. 03:41 Cylus It look pretty good too. Lots of pictures to make sure the recipes are understood. 03:42 VanessaE yup and no need for any of that fancy HTML5 or javascript 03:44 Cylus Most of the time JavaScript isn't needed, but most people just don't seem to get that. 03:45 Cylus I had no idea that mod had so many recipes .... 03:45 VanessaE too damn many :) 03:46 VanessaE and it's about to get more soon :P 03:46 Cylus Or so many nodes, to be honest. It's pretty inclusive. Perhaps it's the only mod you really need? 03:48 VanessaE heh 05:38 schultza is it playable? 05:39 VanessaE yep quite so 05:39 schultza whats missing for features? 05:39 VanessaE depends on what you want, really 05:40 VanessaE if you expect a pure MC clone, one could say it's missing a lot - it doesn't have "The End" for example. 05:40 VanessaE but that's not the purpose of Minetest 05:40 VanessaE we go our own way. 05:40 schultza well, im looking for a free 2 play minecraft like game that has multiplayer.. .and we can build, farm, mine, etc... im not wating the ....the end... yet 05:41 schultza and survival like mode... eat/drink to survive 05:41 VanessaE you've more or less found the right place then 05:41 VanessaE Minetest is a game engine and there are several game packages that run on it - among them are Minetest Game (the "default" one), Carbone, Nodetopia, Dreambuilder, Realtest, and several more, maintained by different people 05:42 schultza how does it compare vs manic digger? 05:42 VanessaE multiplayer is a standard part of the engine and all of the games, most of them have some farming features 05:42 VanessaE they all center around mining in some way 05:42 VanessaE most support survival, with eating at least. 05:43 VanessaE um, never played manic miner. 05:43 VanessaE (I've never played MC either) 06:00 schultza ugh... this is barren 06:00 schultza what did i do wrong on the generation? 06:23 blaise kahrl: I did a git clone from VanessaE's pipeworks repo 06:43 Krock moin 06:50 reactor mowing 10:03 CaveJohnson Calinou: hi 10:15 Calinou hi 10:36 CaveJohnson Calinou: what servers do you frequent in btw? (about to go find some) 10:37 * sfan5 meows at CaveJohnson 10:38 reactor Anyone ever managed to run pyspades? 10:38 CaveJohnson goddammit sfan4 10:38 reactor What is that stupid gag about building python scripts? 10:45 Calinou CaveJohnson, VanessaE's 10:45 Calinou no server runs a recent vanilla version of Carbone :( 10:45 Calinou this is sad, due to how some things in minetest_game suck (too fast sinking, too slow movement, too loud sand sounds) 10:46 CaveJohnson :( 10:46 CaveJohnson Calinou: is that open to people? 10:46 CaveJohnson (and what is their gender?) 10:47 Calinou ? 10:47 CaveJohnson i mean, is the server open to new user, Calinou? 10:47 Calinou you need to ask for interact 10:47 CaveJohnson and is VanessaE female or male? 10:47 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4057 10:47 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7017 10:47 CaveJohnson (i would have assumed female because of the nick) 10:47 Calinou there are at least 4 servers 10:47 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8364 10:47 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9317 10:47 CaveJohnson o. 10:47 CaveJohnson o 10:47 Calinou creative, survival, mostly vanilla (few mods, the other ones have lots of mods), FFA (griefing allowed) 10:48 Calinou yes, female 10:49 CaveJohnson ah :) 10:49 CaveJohnson oh wow 10:49 CaveJohnson https://github.com/VanessaE impressive 10:49 CaveJohnson (contribution graph) 10:49 Calinou my contribution graph has gone low, due to not having repositories on GitHub anymore 10:49 Calinou https://gitorious.org/Calinou/ 10:49 CaveJohnson understandable :P 10:49 Calinou watch this instead 10:49 CaveJohnson okay :) 10:50 Calinou https://gitorious.org/~calinou1 10:50 Calinou actual profile page ^ 10:50 Calinou I didn't know there was such a thing, heh 10:50 CaveJohnson heh, nice avatar, Calinou :P 10:51 Calinou available in sizes from 60² to 256², between 150 and 260 bytes only 10:51 Calinou yet looks good, has slightly rounded corner 10:51 * CaveJohnson signs up 10:52 CaveJohnson done, now for SSH keys 10:53 Calinou yeah, I ended up using SSH keys because I thought they were mandatory 10:53 CaveJohnson D: 10:54 CaveJohnson !later tell calinou *puts rarity on Calinou's head* 10:54 CaveJohnson fak 10:54 CaveJohnson !tell calinou *puts rarity on Calinou's head* 10:54 MinetestBot CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when calinou is around 10:55 CaveJohnson :D 11:00 CaveJohnson !tell VanessaE sorry if this seems quite rude coming from someone who has only been playing Minetest a little, but would it be possible to have interact permissions on your survival server? 11:00 MinetestBot CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around 11:02 CaveJohnson uhhh 11:02 CaveJohnson !tell VanessaE (username zackp30) 11:02 MinetestBot CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around 11:12 CaveJohnson b highm 11:12 CaveJohnson oops 11:57 jin_xi ugh 11:59 * sfan5 meows at CaveJohnson 12:53 ispn Hi all 13:08 ispn what's the key for flying down in MT? 13:14 PenguinDad ispn: you fly down with shift by default 13:14 ispn ok cool, works 13:32 Krock http://i.imgur.com/vs7Kr.gif?1 13:33 Krock ispn, turn off fly mode works too :P 13:33 ispn Krock: yes, it's pretty fast :) 13:39 PenguinDad Krock: but it might end "bloody" 13:40 Krock PenguinDad, hmm? could be, yes. 13:41 PenguinDad descending with shift is a tiny bit more safe 14:57 VanessaE CaveJohnson: no worries, that's not rude at all. Interact granted. 14:57 MinetestBot VanessaE: 08-17 16:00 UTC sorry if this seems quite rude coming from someone who has only been playing Minetest a little, but would it be possible to have interact permissions on your survival server? 14:57 * VanessaE reads scrollback... 14:57 MinetestBot VanessaE: 08-17 16:02 UTC (username zackp30) 15:09 ispn hm, /giveme technic:flashlight drops error (unknown item), is syntax ok? 15:13 PenguinDad ispn: did you enable the technic fleshlight 15:13 PenguinDad *flashlight? 15:13 ispn man that's the most unfortunate typo there -_- 15:14 ispn How do I enable it? 15:14 PenguinDad Fleshlight == Lightsaber :P 15:17 PenguinDad ispn: create a file called technic.conf in the world folder and put "enable_flashlight = "true"" in it 15:20 rubenwardy Hi all! 15:21 ispn Hi rubenwardy! 15:21 ispn PenguinDad: doesn't seem to work :/ 15:21 MinetestBot Calinou: 08-17 15:54 UTC *puts rarity on Calinou's head* 15:22 Calinou !tell CaveJohnson *puts Rainbow Dash on CaveJohnson's head* 15:22 MinetestBot Calinou: I'll pass that on when CaveJohnson is around 15:24 PenguinDad ispn: Did you put it there with the quotes? 15:24 * PenguinDad puts Lyra Heartstrings on Calinou's head 15:25 ispn PenguinDad: both with and without, works neither. conf in main game folder, along with minetest conf 15:26 ispn PenguinDad: ahh ok I see, wait a sec 15:26 PenguinDad ispn: put in the folder of the world where you want to play with the flashlight 15:26 ispn PenguinDad: flashlight = true 15:26 ispn ? 15:26 PenguinDad + it 15:28 rubenwardy !seen iqualfragile 15:28 MinetestBot rubenwardy: iqualfragile was last seen at 2014-08-15 14:59:36 UTC on #minetest-de 15:28 ispn PenguinDad: still no success. Too much time spent on it, abandoning for later. 15:30 FreeFull Is there any way to make working with items nicer in minetest? Say, like shift-click in minecraft 15:30 FreeFull Clicking and moving each stack on its own is so slow 15:30 FreeFull I just want to empty some chests and transfer the contents to other chests 15:32 Calinou nope, you can't handle Shift + Click differently 15:32 CaveJohnson VanessaE: thanks! :D 15:32 MinetestBot CaveJohnson: 08-17 20:22 UTC *puts Rainbow Dash on CaveJohnson's head* 15:32 FreeFull ): 15:32 * CaveJohnson puts fluttershy on Calinou's head 15:33 PenguinDad Shift-Click wouldn't be much faster for me 15:35 FreeFull PenguinDad: Why wouldn't it be? 15:54 FreeFull 16:53:20: ERROR[main]: ...minetest/mods/homedecor_modpack/building_blocks/init.lua:258: attempt to index global 'stairsplus' (a nil value) Hmm 15:54 Krock get moreblocks 15:55 FreeFull That's meant to be recommended, not required. Oh well. 15:56 FreeFull I do have moreblocks 15:56 FreeFull I suppose my version of it is old though 15:59 FreeFull Yeah, getting the up to date version fixed it 16:01 Calinou More Blocks (as all my mods and Carbone) are rolling release 16:01 Krock and when's the forum search gonna be fixed? 16:01 Calinou update them often 16:02 Calinou Krock, it can't 16:02 Calinou PunBB-era topics need to be deleted and re-posted 16:02 CaveJohnson ouch... 16:02 Krock but... you can still view them 16:02 CaveJohnson discourse <3 16:02 Calinou Discource doesn't suit our uses 16:03 CaveJohnson Calinou: may i ask why? it's quite a nice forum software :P 16:03 Calinou doesn't fit mod topics, texture pack topics… 16:03 Calinou large discussion topics 16:03 Calinou limited styling 16:03 Calinou (phpBB styling is quite powerful) 16:04 Calinou moderation isn't that fool-proof 16:04 Calinou (phpBB is pretty fool-proof) 16:04 Calinou the “good old” forum paradigm isn't going away anytime soon 16:04 Calinou huge corporations are still using it 16:04 CaveJohnson i don't understand :P 16:05 CaveJohnson do you mean that there's just categories, instead of the traditional "seperate boards"? 16:08 Calinou yes, hipster stuff 16:08 Calinou doesn't suit language-specific sections 16:08 Calinou really, I hate the Discourse model because it tries to be a revolution 16:10 CaveJohnson well, IMO it's nice, but people have their preferences :P 16:12 rubenwardy I prefer punbb 16:19 CaveJohnson o.o 16:19 CaveJohnson haven't seen calinou timing out in a long time 16:19 Calinou connection bugs 16:19 Calinou ISPs never deliver! 16:19 CaveJohnson hehe :P 16:24 Calinou [off] Oh yes. Wow. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8072515/ (#fedora) 16:27 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=sumo_omni_reloaded&num=1 16:29 PenguinDad lol 16:30 Cylus I don't think #fedora likes you, Calinou. I don't know what you did to piss them off though, you seemed reasonable to me. 16:31 Cylus (By the way, I sometimes have to reboot too when my trackpoint gives out on me. There should be a command to fix it, but I don't know what it is.) 16:34 rubenwardy Rebooting does apply on any OS. 16:37 Calinou meh, #fedora is always angry 16:37 Calinou like most distribution channels 16:37 Calinou French-speaking distribution channels are way less annoying 16:37 Calinou I don't know why 16:37 Calinou but less people are there, so no quick answer usually 16:39 reactor Calinou: no wonder... It's Fedora eh! 16:39 Calinou no, it's IRC 16:39 reactor That OS is _riddled_ with Poettering's insanity. 16:39 Calinou people are often asses on IRC 16:39 Calinou (but also English-speaking…) 16:40 Calinou reactor, so is almost common distribution now 16:40 Calinou no first-tier distribution uses (or will use) something other than systemd now 16:40 reactor Because of it. 16:40 reactor It's the centre of that crap. 16:40 Exio4 systemd is like worst thing ever 16:41 reactor Systemd _is_ insanity. It's unnecessary, non-standard, fault-prone. 16:41 reactor Init is fine. 16:41 jp why debian rock-stable will implement systemd so ? 16:42 reactor Compatibility. 16:43 Cylus I don't really see anger at #debian (on OFTC). 16:44 Cylus What is systemd used for? 16:45 ispn sfan5: Good news. Mesh imports OK as separate objects, and is sculptable using dyntopo (though with errors and a lot of doubles). Will try to slice it with slicer via repetier host, see how it simulates. 16:46 Krock http://i.imgur.com/IpMxwtR.jpg 16:47 Krock sfan5 ^ 16:47 ispn sfan5: I think I could script blender to fetch every object from imported obj and replace with metaball easily, will try later. This week will be totally busy. 16:48 reactor Cylus: it's like hipster init. 16:48 Exio4 Cylus, the problem is, what it isn't 16:49 reactor Because init is too mainstream. 16:49 Exio4 it rewrites everything just for the sake of rewriting everything 16:49 Exio4 reactor, hah 16:49 reactor And now, thanks to these assholes, it's becoming mainstream. 16:49 reactor those* 16:49 reactor They're basically cramming everything into PID 1. 16:49 reactor Okay, people, how about we put X in there? 16:49 reactor And everything that runs under it, huh?! 16:50 reactor And then if something breaks, and breaks terribly, who are you gonna blame? Computer gods?! 16:50 FreeFull Making coal blocks and other items like that is really slow 16:51 cobcorn where do you put mods in minetest for linux? 16:51 cobcorn arch, btw 16:51 cobcorn I didn't see a mod folder in .minetest 16:52 jp create it. "mods" folder 16:52 cobcorn ohk 16:55 cobcorn w00t mesecons 16:57 * Krock puts X to XZ 16:58 Calinou I don't really see anger at #debian (on OFTC). 16:58 Calinou a lot of it 16:58 Calinou not anger as in insults, but, constant passive-aggressivity 16:59 Calinou the user base is usually 30-40 year old sysadmins 16:59 Calinou who don't have much fun in life 16:59 Calinou so it's to be expected 16:59 rubenwardy Am I right in thinking that it is bad to do this in C++: https://github.com/Jeija/planether/blob/master/src/game.hpp 16:59 rubenwardy That is, forward declare but don't include the classes. The classes are included in the equivalent of game.cpp instead. 16:59 sfan5 ispn: glad that it works 17:00 Calinou heh, Jeija is writing his own game 17:00 Calinou …no license 17:01 rubenwardy didn't notice that. 17:01 Calinou made an issue 8) 17:01 Calinou I love reporting licensing issues 17:04 rubenwardy #planether 17:04 CaveJohnson oh, also, Calinou 17:05 CaveJohnson how does the forking system work in gitourious? 17:05 rubenwardy But, anyway, am I right? 17:05 CaveJohnson *gitorious 17:05 Calinou there's a per-project issue tracker and per-repository merge request tracker 17:05 Calinou https://gitorious.org/projects/calinou/issues 17:05 Calinou ^ eg. issues 17:05 Calinou undocumented feature 8) 17:05 Calinou same as .zip download 17:05 Calinou it's hidden 17:05 CaveJohnson i appear to have a made a new repo under your "namespace" 17:05 Calinou I believe it's done so intentionally 17:05 CaveJohnson ahhh 17:05 Calinou https://gitorious.org/Calinou/ 17:06 Calinou I see an user clone 17:06 CaveJohnson orite, suddenly it makes sense 17:06 CaveJohnson ok 17:06 CaveJohnson was going to try and contribute, Calinou 17:06 CaveJohnson have to do it like, in a few days tho :( 17:06 Calinou what are you going to make? 17:06 CaveJohnson not sure yet, that's the problem 17:06 Calinou try not to make something which I'll immediately refuse 17:06 Calinou (including but not limited to: “Timbering” trees and cacti, Minecraft-like mob knockback, hunger…) 17:06 CaveJohnson Calinou: omg i'm going to add cars ;) 17:07 Calinou try focusing on fixes or subtle enhancements instead 17:07 Calinou to avoid refusal 17:07 Calinou this is valid for any project 17:07 CaveJohnson okay, will do :) 17:07 CaveJohnson also Lua <3 17:08 Calinou indeed 17:08 Calinou imagine if the Web used Lua instead of JavaScript 17:08 * Calinou runs 17:08 CaveJohnson would be cool, actually 17:08 rubenwardy Squirrel 17:08 CaveJohnson JS doesn't have the best syntax 17:08 PenguinDad node.lua :D 17:09 rubenwardy Squirrel is what JS wants to be 17:17 sfan5 meow 17:17 sfan5 :/ 17:17 sfan5 Krock: a cat 17:17 sfan5 kitten* 17:18 Krock MEOW 17:18 PenguinDad WÖM :P 17:29 * sfan5 licks PenguinDad 17:29 * PenguinDad meows at sfan5 17:37 Calinou rubenwardy, JS takes years to evolve 17:37 Calinou it evolves very slowly due to browsers being slow to implement it 17:37 Calinou so people invent hundreds (!) of frameworks to circumvent it 17:42 pitriss Hi, please is there way how to make player names bigger? i mean that titles hovering above heads... 17:43 * Krock gives pitriss https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1513 17:46 cobcorn pitriss: resolution change? 17:48 sfan5 cobcorn: the resolution has no effect on that 17:48 pitriss Krock: thanks. 17:48 pitriss cobcorn: thats not solution for me.. :) 17:56 Calinou impossible 18:01 Krock ? 18:34 blaise anyone care to mention some mods that a server simply cannot do without ? 18:35 rubenwardy default 18:35 rubenwardy :P 18:35 PenguinDad we, areas or landrush and maptools, these are essential mods for a server imo 18:35 rubenwardy Depends on the server. WorldEdit. Some form of protection. 18:37 PenguinDad rubenwardy: a nodetopia server doesn't need default :P 18:56 blaise are node_owner and areas able to coexist? 18:57 Calinou anyone care to mention some mods that a server simply cannot do without ? 18:57 VanessaE no 18:57 Calinou WorldEdit, MapTools 18:57 VanessaE get rid of node_owner 18:57 VanessaE it's outdated. 18:57 Calinou both are bundled in Carbone 18:57 Calinou there's an area lock mod in Carbone too 19:18 sfan5 >http://www.speedtest.net/result/3695577984.png 19:18 sfan5 pls 19:18 sfan5 Grade: F+ 19:18 sfan5 quality internet in 2014 from Telekom 19:20 Calinou this is speedtest.net 19:21 sfan5 yes 19:21 sfan5 speedof.me has the same result 19:21 Calinou speedof.me works like crap on fast connections 19:21 Calinou most people with fiber trash it :P 19:21 sfan5 tell me what to use 19:21 Calinou despite claiming to be the most accurate speed test 19:21 Calinou http://testdebit.info/ 19:21 Calinou wget a file 19:21 Calinou or upload using FTP 19:22 Calinou https://iperf.fr/ maybe too 19:22 sfan5 I don't need to test my upload, I know it's bad because of torrents 19:22 Flipsels both are ookla tests :) 19:23 Flipsels (speedtest & testdebit) 19:25 sfan5 Calinou: 100%[======================================>] 12.500.000 646KB/s in 21s 19:25 sfan5 ( http://proof.ovh.net/files/100Mb.dat ) 19:25 Calinou Flipsels, how do you know? 19:26 Flipsels the speedtest app on android says ookla, the testdebit.info says it on the site 19:26 Flipsels Oh, speedtest.net too 19:36 ispn sfan5: posting results from slicing in thread, with screenshots. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9923&start=25 19:37 sfan5 ispn: wow, *looks* 19:37 sfan5 o 19:37 sfan5 look 19:37 sfan5 a q66 19:38 * PenguinDad quaks at q66 :P 19:41 BlockBuilder99 Hi 19:41 sfan5 hi 19:41 BlockBuilder99 i have some questionns about MineTest,,, 19:41 sfan5 just ask 19:41 LemonLake ask away 19:41 BlockBuilder99 lemme get my souirces 19:42 BlockBuilder99 *sources 19:42 LemonLake got some in the cupboard, do you like ketchup? 19:42 BlockBuilder99 i hate red stuff 19:42 BlockBuilder99 cant stand it 19:42 LemonLake i see 19:42 BlockBuilder99 anyway, trees 19:42 ispn sfan5: 3d prints tomorrow hopefully, should be no problem at this stage. Glad as hell it works :D Thanks man! PM@forum to claim your prize :> 19:42 LemonLake well in my client my name happens to be red so.. im say now 19:42 LemonLake s/say/sad/ 19:42 BlockBuilder99 oh sorry LemonLake 19:42 LemonLake nah nah man 19:43 LemonLake 'tis chill 19:43 BlockBuilder99 You make me forget 19:43 BlockBuilder99 trees 19:43 LemonLake tree... 19:43 LemonLake s. 19:43 BlockBuilder99 Is there smth like treecapitator for MC? 19:43 Flipsels the wooden thingies 19:43 sfan5 lol 19:43 LemonLake there are many of those 19:43 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4772 19:43 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1590 19:43 sfan5 ispn: is the "prize" the 3D modeling thingy? 19:44 PenguinDad I prefer TreeCapacitors :P 19:44 ispn sfan5: or drawing, yeah. 19:44 LemonLake Capacitor? 19:44 LemonLake So there are capacitors made out of trees now? 19:44 BlockBuilder99 I'm sure someone could come up with why they are 19:45 LemonLake speaking of drawing, i should probably make another minim soon 19:45 LemonLake though at this rate they're hardly minims 19:45 LemonLake they look more just like regular vectors 19:46 BlockBuilder99 Actually i do want the ketchup 19:46 sfan5 ispn: can 3d printed structures have different colors? 19:46 LemonLake next up is ms. yandere 19:47 user____1 what is up 19:47 LemonLake some clouds 19:47 ispn sfan5: Depends. Some technologies take color data, but they are expensive. FFF (the reprap kind of machines that spew plastic from hot nozzle) can take as much materials as they have nozzles. Usually 2, and no mixing. 19:47 LemonLake maybe a sky 19:47 LemonLake depends on your religious beliefs 19:48 ispn sfan5: there are printers that have 6 nozzles, but it's problematic, they drool hot plastic all over the print since they have no valves. 19:48 Highlander_ hey 19:48 LemonLake yuno's a difficult one... 19:48 sfan5 sounds like 3d printers still need many improving 19:48 BlockBuilder99 Hi Highlander_ 19:48 Highlander_ hi 19:48 sfan5 ispn: so you'll be doing 1-color modeling with the kids then? 19:49 ispn sfan5: so for FFF it's 2 colors max, preferably 1 and soluble support. 19:49 ispn sfan5: kids are cool, they can paint those things later for extra fun :) 19:49 sfan5 sounds interesting 19:49 LemonLake flippin heck, she has so many colour schemes 19:49 Highlander_ lol kids are nice apart from when they turn into teenagers. 19:49 Calinou consumer 3D printing is recent 19:49 sfan5 Highlander_: depends 19:50 Calinou expect at least 5 years to have mature ones 19:50 sfan5 Highlander_: ..on the maturity 19:50 Highlander_ mine just got angsty as fudge. 19:50 Calinou fun fact: you can print in metal, chocolate… 19:50 LemonLake Highlander_: welcome to puberty 19:50 Highlander_ Yeah it took till I think they were 15 - 16 before they started to become mature. 19:50 LemonLake Calinou: im sold 19:50 ispn Highlander_: i know one guy that got his kids angry with the world instead of the family, it was epic. 19:50 * Calinou buys LemonLake 19:50 Highlander_ lol i've had 2 kids I know what it's like 19:50 Highlander_ oh loool 19:50 LemonLake Calinou: That's... 19:50 LemonLake Really not what I meant. 19:50 sfan5 Calinou: fun fact: there is a japanese game show where people have to figure out whether (ordinary) stuff is made out of chocolate 19:51 ispn sfan5: fuck yeah japanese game shows :D 19:51 sfan5 :D :D 19:51 LemonLake sfan5: I saw that. 19:51 LemonLake 'twas really messed up. 19:51 Highlander_ trading ctcps sfan5 eh? 19:52 sfan5 Highlander_: you started 19:52 sfan5 LemonLake: nah 19:52 Calinou Highlander_: i know one guy that got his kids angry with the world instead of the family, it was epic. 19:52 Calinou uh? 19:52 Highlander_ i'm curious if anyone else was using irssi 19:52 LemonLake sirsrisriisrisrirriiisirsr 19:52 PenguinDad CTCP == Cat to Cat protocol :D 19:52 Highlander_ lol true ^ 19:54 Calinou HexChat here 19:54 LemonLake ^ 19:54 PenguinDad WeeChat here 19:54 * sfan5 yays at Calinou (same, HexChat here too) 19:54 Calinou PonyChat. 19:55 Highlander_ Hey nice someone with a CLI client, nice one PenguinDad 19:56 sfan5 LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/wfD1bUp.gif 19:56 LemonLake cool 19:56 sfan5 LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/nrYvnwG.jpg 19:57 LemonLake > teen 19:57 LemonLake > teeen 19:57 Calinou WeeChat 1.0 was released 2 days ago 19:57 sfan5 ok, I have other things to do... 19:58 sfan5 LemonLake: http://www.reddit.com/r/JapaneseGameShows 20:00 LemonLake agh 20:00 LemonLake I'll draw later 20:00 BlockBuilder99 Highlander_: I use irssi 20:02 Highlander_ niice 20:09 basilgohar Is connecting a technic grinder with a technic electric furnace supposed to allow ground items to flow automatically? 20:09 basilgohar Or does that need an external mesecon signal to trigger the "pumping" action? 20:11 blaise how to I change initial privliges? 20:11 blaise so I can give everyone areas privliges 20:11 VanessaE blaise: don't give ANYONE the areas priv! 20:11 VanessaE that's for admins. 20:11 blaise lol 20:12 blaise great 20:12 blaise how do I take it away? 20:12 blaise "/grant someone -areas" ? 20:12 VanessaE /revoke 20:13 VanessaE if you want to allow users to self-protect, turn that feature on specifically ( areas.self_protection = true in minetest.conf ) 20:13 * BlockBuilder99 is bored 20:13 raffahacks Hi VanessaE 20:13 VanessaE hi 20:13 BlockBuilder99 Cya all! 20:14 blaise ah, it already was 20:14 blaise k 20:16 basilgohar I meant connecting the grinder with the furnace via tubes.. 20:17 VanessaE basilgohar: I believe you have to use mesecons signals to keep the items pumping, or upgrade your grinder et al. I seem to remember there being upgrade slots in them to take a controller chip 20:20 raffahacks How much ram does minetest take? Less than 500? 20:20 VanessaE depends on what you're doing 20:21 VanessaE a basic game should do fair on 512MB 20:21 VanessaE large texture packs like HDX can take 6-8 GB on older Minetest installs (less on newer versions) 20:21 VanessaE depends on the game you play and a lot more 20:21 Calinou server is gentle on RAM 20:24 raffahacks How much does minetest download before connecting to an average heavy server for the first time online? 20:27 VanessaE depends on the server. 20:28 VanessaE my vanilla server, which is minetest_game plus only a small number of lightweight mods, only has about 4.8 MB of media to send. 20:28 VanessaE meanwhile, Dreambuilder-based servers have around 35 MB of media. 20:29 raffahacks VanessaE: for example, yours 20:29 VanessaE (e.g. my Survival server) 20:29 raffahacks Wow, just 5mb 20:29 VanessaE mmhmm. 20:29 raffahacks What is vanilla 20:30 PenguinDad raffahacks: vanilla is tasty :P 20:30 VanessaE digitalaudioconcepts.com port 30005 20:30 VanessaE it's my lightweight server for lower-end machines and tablets etc. 20:31 Sokomine irks. just digged some wheat on desert sand soil - and the whole field started tumbling downward. seems desert sand soil inherited the falling property? 20:31 VanessaE why wouldn't it? 20:31 VanessaE it's still sand :P 20:32 Calinou https://github.com/Jeija/planether/issues/4 20:32 Calinou I won 20:32 * Calinou hallelujah 20:33 Sokomine how am i supposed to make it stay wet now and let plants grow? i placed water below the field via mapgen...and was hoping that'd work 20:33 * PenguinDad hands Calinou a cookie 20:33 Sokomine might still work with water 1 more below. hm. or a special soil for the villages? not much point in having abms running anyway. hm 20:34 VanessaE Sokomine: offtopic... seen this yet? http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/homedecor-crafting-guide/homedecor-craft-guide.html 20:34 VanessaE (brag) 20:34 VanessaE Sokomine: most people put dirt water dirt water .... side by side 20:34 VanessaE with a base of dirt or stone. 20:35 Sokomine vanessae: yes, of course i have :-) it's a very nice, through documentation. if all mods where documented like that, we'd have less problems 20:35 Sokomine vanessae: still, homedecor got BIG. without a good crafting guide, it's difficult to craft all the stuff. i hope to eventually get around to teach my traders to sell homedecor items. perhaps for gold or silver ingots or the like 20:36 VanessaE which is why I made a good crafting guide :D 20:36 Sokomine then players might go to a shop in their singleplayer world and buy their furniture :-) 20:36 Sokomine yes. the html documentation supplements the craft guide, which can only show the receipes and items as such, but not provide additional information 20:37 * Sokomine puts a few used glasses in the dishwasher 20:37 VanessaE I should make that thing functional. 20:37 Sokomine make that html-craftguide universal :-) someone pointed to a script for that (afaik written by cornernote?) 20:38 VanessaE (but who would define "dirty glass" in their mod? :P ) 20:38 Sokomine *g* rather unlikely, yes. seems players occasinally need a bit of...glass...to remain healthy. a glass of apple juice leads to the entire glass disappearing... 20:38 VanessaE heh 20:38 Sokomine either we drink it or we throw it away immediately after use. very strange anyway :-) 20:39 VanessaE pretty sad considering I provided a recycle path in the vessels mod. 20:40 Sokomine *nod* 20:40 VanessaE but it doesn't help that the engine doesn't handle craft replacements correctly. 20:41 VanessaE (if you craft a whole bunch of something, you only ever get one item back for a given replacement entry even if you are owed a large number) 20:43 Sokomine machines may help... 20:47 BlockBuilder99 Hi 21:02 Calinou http://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/2cve2v/random_question_out_of_curiosity/ 21:02 Calinou lol 21:02 Calinou made my day… :\ 21:02 VanessaE ^^^^ send them to my FreeForAll server. 21:03 VanessaE seems like that's exactly what he wants. 21:03 VanessaE the only rule there is no foul language. 21:03 Calinou no, he's really into politics 21:03 VanessaE everything else goes. 21:03 Calinou see the comment at the bottom 21:03 Calinou I'll post comment about your FFA server anyway 21:04 gerard Is there Flux for linux? 21:04 Calinou but I got bored of that kind of server :( due to empathy, lol 21:04 Calinou on Minecraft I used to play a lot on hardcore PvP servers, grief, kill 21:04 Calinou now I feel bad when doing it :< 21:04 Calinou gerard, there's redshift 21:04 VanessaE FFA is port 30006 I think 21:04 Calinou which does the same thing (decrease brightness at night) 21:05 gerard Well, it's colour but ok aha 21:06 gerard I used to play servers a lot and just talk so much that I became friends with the top players then the owner- and become a Mod :) 21:06 gerard I was also the richest on a big server, selling Golden Apples to the shop 21:07 gerard Calinou, is there a good PvP/grief server? 21:07 reactor grief server 21:07 reactor Where everyone's sad. 21:08 gerard Well it's usually factions on Minecraft so only if your faction's weak :P 21:08 gerard Or your friends with admins and have unlimited TNT to make canons.. 21:09 Calinou VanessaE's server 21:09 Calinou doesn't have much players, but better than nothing 21:09 Calinou an hardcore PvP server works really well when it has dozens of players 21:10 Calinou (ideally, players that aren't mobile clients, so that excludes the “just test” server) 21:10 gerard Damn, redshift stays open for 2seconds then closes itself 21:10 Calinou gerard, the problem with most Minecraft _and_ Minetest servers is that they don't encourage interaction; that way, multiplayer is mostly about chatting, and not cooperating. :( 21:10 Calinou so that's why it gets boring 21:10 Calinou Where everyone's sad. 21:10 Calinou where everyone cheats… 21:11 reactor Cheating == sad? 21:11 gerard But with the Faction plugin it is 21:11 reactor The problem is most players whine about privileges and gimme this gimme that and teleport mee as soon as they join. 21:12 gerard Only in small servers :/ All Minetest ones 21:16 reactor щ? 21:19 Calinou run an unlisted server 21:19 Calinou one that isn't on the list 21:19 Calinou post it on forums 21:21 gerard I don't know whether the community should be young because it's free or older because it's harder to find and will have people who like FOSS(?) 21:22 Calinou because it's a Minecraft-like game 21:22 reactor Probably same proportion. 21:22 Calinou Minecraft is an universal kid glue 21:22 Calinou so all the “clones” behave the same way 21:23 Calinou https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/issues/1175 21:23 Calinou this isn't better on Terasology either 21:24 gerard First server I went on had an 8,9 and 11 year old aha 21:24 gerard Oh lord they made an account for that? 21:24 reactor The problem with forums is, they have to be accessed via clumsy web-interface. 21:25 gerard Why do all forum sites seem like theyre atleast 4 years old, or more 21:25 Calinou https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/issues/1167 21:25 Calinou this one too, lol 21:26 reactor Because web inteface is a meintenance hell. 21:26 reactor maint* 21:26 reactor Mailing lists rule. 21:26 reactor You can use any interface you like with mail. 21:27 gerard They all seem to be the same design, can't remember what its called now 21:27 reactor It's called 'I will confuse the hell outa you'. 21:28 gerard "vBulletin" ? 21:29 reactor I believe MT forums use phpBB 21:29 gerard This is just terrible http://www.mpgh.net/ 21:30 gerard And the content 21:30 reactor Yes. 21:31 reactor "O tempora o mores!", eh. 21:33 gerard People really spend so much time bruteforcing Minecraft accounts... sad 21:33 gerard Probably mostly kids they're taking accounts from 21:34 reactor Heh. 21:34 reactor And still no protection against that?! 21:35 LemonLake How would you protect it? 21:37 gerard They have to sign in with email now! 21:37 LemonLake yeah, that's mojang being mojang 21:37 LemonLake it's a pain in the ass to get on classic now 21:38 gerard You can still play classic? :) 21:42 reactor LemonLake: timeout 21:42 reactor 3 attempts -- wait 10 minutes 21:43 reactor That'd slow them down _considerably_. 21:50 Sokomine lemoncake: there's that classicube client now. it works better than the old classic client. sadly, people seem to no longer beeing able to locate that, so mc classic servers got very empty 21:51 ispn reactor: true about mailing lists. But email in present form sucks. Tool from different times. There are no good solutions at present. 21:52 reactor How does mail suck? 21:52 reactor It does the job just fine. 21:53 ispn reactor: when you don't have to keep the mailing list spam free, then yes. 21:53 reactor Oh you mean that... 21:53 reactor That is a problem, yes. 21:54 ispn reactor: plaintext by default. People with messy webmails and coding that %*&3propagates d&9wn the whole thread 21:54 reactor What's the problem with plaintext? 21:55 reactor It _is_ good that it's plaintext by default. 21:55 reactor Nobody wants all that HTML cruft in there. 21:55 ispn reactor: I meant lack of encryption 21:55 reactor That is the problem of mail servers. 21:56 ispn reactor: it is a tool for experienced people, a tool that should be taught, yet no one does that. 21:56 ispn reactor: no ,of users who send plaintext. 21:56 reactor People better read manuals. 21:56 ispn reactor: email is badly neglected 21:57 ispn reactor: if world worked that way, 60% of the population would be writing code, or at least doing awesome stuff. 21:57 reactor Then what are they doing? Are they supposed to be using devices as complicated as computers anyway? 21:58 ispn reactor: reality is such that >60% of people are lemmings, and they dictate stuff by being a brainless, impulsive elongation of their wallets. 21:58 reactor Developed countries lack agricultural workers, just saying. 21:58 ispn reactor: no, but there's no one to stop them. Millions are being spent so that they can do that more magically (touch interfaces) 21:59 reactor Exactly, what are they supposed to do with technology? 21:59 ispn (use computers) 21:59 reactor You let them in -- they fuck you up. 21:59 ispn reactor: facebook, twitter, porn 21:59 ispn reactor: youtube 21:59 Calinou Classic is completely worthless in 2014 21:59 reactor This has already happened ^ 21:59 Calinou Minetest beats it in every way, since 2011 22:00 ispn reactor: exactly, and in recent years is being monetized through targeted ads and other crazy stuff. THousands of startups for that. 22:00 Calinou “monetized” :/ 22:00 ispn Calinou: sorry if that;s not a work in ENglish :) 22:00 reactor Dystopian consumerism. 22:01 reactor Nobody can come up with ways to fix it, nobody bothers to. 22:01 ispn reactor: kind of, yeah, depends on the mindset. For some it's a world of possibilities. 22:01 Calinou it is, but I believe it's a bad word when it's used to mean “convert something into money”: it supposes money is what really counts 22:01 ispn reactor: it takes away scruples and prioritizes aims. 22:01 gerard Can you run a .jar rather than opening as an archive? 22:01 Calinou “monetize” can mean “use as currency” 22:02 Calinou gerard, java -jar 22:02 ispn Calinou: in that case it is, used it on purpose. 22:02 reactor Of course one can make money on lemmings. 22:03 reactor But that backfires -- they will have to buy stupider devices for their own apartment. 22:03 reactor Just because companies making proper stuff go bankrupt -- nobody buys it. 22:03 reactor s/ --/:/ 22:03 ispn reactor: Depends on how you do it. Saw Facebook backlash when they invaded privacy by introducing features? 22:04 gerard Too little memory to run the MC launcher xD 22:04 reactor ispn: heard of it, yes. 22:04 reactor that* 22:05 ispn reactor: people don't see the environment as oppressive. THey get along. Change that, require them to stop being stupid, and they will conform. They will become clever out of laziness. 22:06 ispn reactor: closing stuff up, making it dumber and more limited is the way to go. 22:06 ispn reactor: it will backfire sooner or later. 22:06 reactor Somebody _wants_ them to be stupid. 22:07 Exio4 argument of why apple rocks: because i've more nice stuff preinstalled 22:07 ispn reactor: yes, and it's a good thing, I think. THe way to make a human resistant to being used, is to use him beyond his acceptable boundaries. 22:07 ispn reactor: no other way 22:07 Exio4 i said, "but why're you paying so much if you could do that with half or less the money?" -> "because they have it by default" 22:08 gerard "There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue" schweet 22:08 reactor gerard: Java. 22:08 gerard oui? 22:10 ispn Exio4: you could actually calculate that, make a list, make a hourly wage for yourself that would take into consideration preinstalling stuff, and make a good calculation which of the options is better in which scenario. 22:10 ispn Exio4: saying such a thing, you are relying on instincts, the precise thing that is a target of marketing. 22:11 reactor Or you can type in a couple commands, and there you go -- everything installed, for free! 22:12 ispn reactor: and modifiable 22:12 reactor Indeed. 22:12 reactor You can peek into it, study it, fix it. 22:12 ispn reactor: what no other machine has is optimization of interface. Not to the degree FLOSS has, ever. 22:13 gerard k i dunt get iyt, imagow 22:13 ispn reactor: People using Zbrush get hyped up that they can launch other programs from Zbrush without having to export-import stuff, saving precious time. It's a huge technological advancement no other software has, you see. /sarcasm 22:13 reactor gerard: гДПЮБЯРБСИРЕ! 22:15 reactor ! 22:16 ispn off to sleep 22:17 reactor G'night! 22:23 gerard Do I need to do "java -jar JARNAME" everytime? 22:38 MinetestBot realtinymonster: 06-14 17:44 UTC I know. 22:39 realtinymonster lol 22:39 realtinymonster so long ago 22:39 realtinymonster I have the greatest timing 22:40 realtinymonster I was just coming to talk with PenguinDad 22:40 realtinymonster :/ 22:40 realtinymonster yay! that was fast 22:40 * PenguinDad looks at the logs 22:41 realtinymonster thanks PenguinDad for the optipng commit to gitpack 22:41 PenguinDad realtinymonster: no problem 22:43 realtinymonster I need to find a person that is willing to convert gitpack to minecraft format in #minecraft... doubt i'll have much luck, most of those guys are quite some asses 22:46 PenguinDad TIL "-march=native -O2" is often faster than "-march=native -O3" 22:48 rayn_ thats 22:48 rayn_ p well documented 22:48 PenguinDad As if I would read the docs :D 22:49 rayn_ -Os is even faster 22:49 rayn_ you should always use that 22:50 Vazon Sokomine: i have come across a problem with the colormachine mod 22:59 LemonLake yo yo sup 23:00 PenguinDad Hey LemonLake 23:00 LemonLake do you get an award for creating the most boring game logo? 23:07 blaise hey, what ever happened to the stargate mod ? 23:08 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2135 this one? 23:08 blaise did it get abandoned in favor of something better? 23:08 blaise https://github.com/minetest-technic/stargate 23:08 blaise that one 23:08 LemonLake I can only guess 23:09 LemonLake Geez, I'm probably the worst developer. I forgotten how to get a resource in the engine for my own (kinda) game. 23:10 blaise I have a problem with the areas mod 23:10 blaise :\ 23:11 LemonLake What's your problem? 23:11 blaise if the server crashes, or get's shut down 23:11 blaise peoples areas nodes vanish 23:11 blaise and they have to set them again 23:21 realtinymonster yo LemonLake 23:21 LemonLake yoo rtm! 23:21 LemonLake sup? 23:22 realtinymonster nm, you? 23:22 realtinymonster starting school again on wednesday 23:22 LemonLake not much, been wasting the holidays with anime, drawing and sleep 23:23 LemonLake 0% productivity :P 23:23 realtinymonster pretty much the same, except replace drawing with building a house 23:23 LemonLake building a house? :o 23:23 realtinymonster ay 23:23 LemonLake like, a real house? 23:23 realtinymonster yeah 23:24 LemonLake nice 23:24 LemonLake that's more fun than drawing :D 23:24 realtinymonster 56,000 sq. ft. 23:24 realtinymonster ~ 23:24 LemonLake that's pretty neat 23:24 LemonLake "Debug Assertion Failed!" << that right there is my life in a nutshell 23:25 realtinymonster lol 23:25 realtinymonster what engine? 23:26 realtinymonster ^ LemonLake 23:28 lemonlake_ dang 23:28 lemonlake_ my internet just took a dump on itsel 23:28 lemonlake_ f 23:29 blaise on, itself?! 23:29 lemonlake_ what engine? 23:29 lemonlake_ SFML 23:29 lemonlake_ I'm the codev of the game, and I'm really unaffiliated with the setup since I haven't worked on it in a while 23:29 lemonlake_ yes 23:29 blaise what game? 23:29 lemonlake_ Bread Hunter 23:29 lemonlake_ It's nothing special yet 23:30 blaise is that anything like bread cat? 23:30 LemonLake Never heard of it 23:30 blaise what about star citizen ? 23:30 LemonLake Ditto. 23:30 blaise eve online ? 23:30 LemonLake In no way. 23:30 blaise rise of the triad? 23:30 blaise duke nukem? 23:30 LemonLake Think of it like an RPG/multiplayer shooter mix 23:30 blaise lemmings? 23:31 LemonLake But it's a game where nothing makes sense 23:31 LemonLake The land of lack of fucks 23:31 blaise how about wolfenstien? 23:31 LemonLake I can't really compare it to anything. 23:31 blaise doom? 23:31 realtinymonster LemonLake: LOL 23:31 blaise compare? 23:31 LemonLake Yes. 23:31 LemonLake I can't necessarily compare it to anything. 23:31 realtinymonster screenies? 23:31 blaise I was just wondering if you had heard of anything, ever.. 23:31 LemonLake I'd give you screenies but the main menu is currently in development 23:31 realtinymonster or not to sthat stage? 23:31 realtinymonster ah 23:32 LemonLake And I'm no pro at Guis, the other dev is gonna make that tomorrow. 23:32 LemonLake Which means there's currently no entrance into the actual game 23:33 realtinymonster ah 23:33 realtinymonster can you hacked state launch it? 23:34 LemonLake When I can solve this vector error, maybe. 23:34 realtinymonster ah, cool 23:35 LemonLake By the looks of it, it's simply me not clamping a value 23:36 LemonLake That did it 23:38 LemonLake TIL the game is conveniently divided into scenes 23:38 FreeFull Is there a bed mod which has king-sized beds? 23:38 FreeFull I'm thinking 3x2 23:39 VanessaE FreeFull: I could perhaps add such a thing to homedecor. 23:39 FreeFull VanessaE: I'd be delighted if you would 23:40 LemonLake realtinymonster: https://mediacru.sh/XT56MvPe__7U.png 23:40 LemonLake I tell you now, that's a super temporary tower texture not made by me 23:40 LemonLake And the player texture may be completely changed 23:41 VanessaE "temporary" doesn't do it justice ;) 23:41 LemonLake lol 23:41 realtinymonster looks good, interesting cam angle 23:42 FreeFull https://imgur.com/a/NMh3q Here are some screenshots from my current minetest world. Not too impressive, but still 23:42 VanessaE nice 23:42 FreeFull The tower and storage area were built today 23:43 LemonLake that's a nice world you got there 23:43 VanessaE "be a shame if something happened to it" ? 23:43 VanessaE ;) 23:43 LemonLake true that 23:44 FreeFull I don't have any mob mod or anything =P 23:45 VanessaE hahaha 23:45 FreeFull And I doubt you can go and do anything to it 23:45 FreeFull Unless you add some destructive code to homedecor and I run it 23:45 VanessaE no, you just gotta pay protection to c55 ;) 23:45 VanessaE I'd never add destructive code to homedecor :) 23:46 FreeFull Damn, now I miss c55's server again ): 23:46 FreeFull I had builds there! 23:46 VanessaE anyhow, I'll see what I can do later on about making a king size bed 23:46 FreeFull Thanks 23:46 VanessaE probably a "full" size also 23:46 VanessaE (2x2) 23:47 FreeFull I have candles in the bedroom, I think it gives a nice ambiance :) 23:47 VanessaE 3x2.... 3 wide or 3 long? I have a king and it's roughly equal in both directions 23:48 FreeFull I was thinking 3 long 23:48 VanessaE ok 23:48 VanessaE to my mind, that would be queen sized 23:48 realtinymonster VanessaE: Queens must be long :P 23:49 VanessaE heh 23:49 VanessaE I'll see what I can come up with. it'll be a few days at least though. taking a coding break. 23:49 VanessaE (mostly) 23:49 LemonLake aight 23:50 LemonLake im gonna get some rest 23:50 VanessaE cya 23:50 LemonLake cya 23:50 realtinymonster enjoy said rest 23:58 realtinymonster for all that enjoy physics games and Lua: #powder