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00:00 john_minetest Yeah.
00:00 john_minetest Still the serverlist is pretty useful.
00:01 dotDeb is there a minimap mod/key?
00:01 john_minetest Building it from git is not really difficult and it brings the advantage of always being up-to-date. That includes the newest bugs but also the newest bugfixes :P
00:01 john_minetest There is a minimap mod iirc
00:02 dotDeb cool
00:02 dotDeb is there sprint?
00:02 john_minetest https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=7&t=8489
00:03 dotDeb ty
00:03 john_minetest There is "fast".
00:03 dotDeb how do you use it
00:03 john_minetest In singleplayer, do "/grant singleplayer fast". Then you can toggle fast mode with "j" and run fast by pressing "e" while running.
00:04 john_minetest In multiplayer you got fast activated on some servers. On some you don't have got the fast priv.
00:04 dotDeb ok thanks
00:05 john_minetest np
00:05 john_minetest I gtg. Cya.
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00:10 lemonlake_ How does one install a lib?
00:11 blaise what do you mean?
00:11 lemonlake_ idk
00:11 lemonlake_ faces
00:11 blaise what operating system
00:11 blaise what lib ?
00:13 lemonlake_ idk
00:13 lemonlake_ toes
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00:25 lemonlake_ It has been revolutionized.
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00:59 Exio4 Ich bin ein Mann!
01:00 Exio4 duolingo lol
01:03 Exio4 Er ist != Du bist ;_;
01:05 Exio4 what is the difference between Junge and Kind_
01:05 Exio4 what is the difference between Junge and Kind?
01:06 dotDeb exio4 Kind = child, Junge = boy
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01:07 Exio4 like kind ~= kid?
01:08 dotDeb exio4 I think so
01:10 Exio4 Ich esse Brot
01:10 Exio4 funny phrases
01:10 dotDeb Ist gut?
01:10 dotDeb *Ist es gut?
01:11 Exio4 hey! this is just my first lesson!
01:11 Exio4 i've to learn "der, die, das, Milch, trinkst, isst" now
01:11 Exio4 xP
01:12 dotDeb exio4 i don't speak german
01:12 dotDeb I did duolingo too
01:12 Exio4 ahm
01:12 Exio4 duolingo is neat
01:14 Exio4 Die Frau!
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01:40 * blaise facepalms
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02:18 kahrl https://twitter.com/shitduosays
02:22 Exio4 rofl
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02:52 blaise anyone have any idea who the culpret is on this one? http://pastebin.com/6YCaxvNt
02:52 blaise is it technic, pipeworks, or default ?
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02:54 ArchZombie1y *pokes channel* anyone alive?
03:00 blaise yeah
03:00 blaise not many, but a few
03:08 kahrl blaise: the pipeworks/item_transport.lua I see online has only 480 lines
03:08 kahrl where did you get yours?
03:10 VanessaE blaise: I believe this particular issue is a bug in mesecons
03:10 VanessaE it has been reported before
03:10 VanessaE but it's not 100% certain where the problem actually lies.
03:11 VanessaE https://github.com/Jeija/mine​test-mod-mesecons/issues/164
03:11 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/69
03:11 VanessaE correction, it was fixed :P
03:11 VanessaE update mesecons.
03:11 VanessaE and as kahrl suggested, make sure your pipeworks is legit.
03:13 VanessaE meanwhile, small announcement for the two people who are awake at this hour:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=11&t=2041&p=151420#p151420
03:40 Cylus VanessaE: Sweet!
03:41 Cylus I'm always a fan of pages that actually pass W3C validation. THere are so few of them out there.
03:41 Cylus It look pretty good too. Lots of pictures to make sure the recipes are understood.
03:42 VanessaE yup and no need for any of that fancy HTML5 or javascript
03:44 Cylus Most of the time JavaScript isn't needed, but most people just don't seem to get that.
03:45 Cylus I had no idea that mod had so many recipes ....
03:45 VanessaE too damn many :)
03:46 VanessaE and it's about to get more soon :P
03:46 Cylus Or so many nodes, to be honest. It's pretty inclusive. Perhaps it's the only mod you really need?
03:48 VanessaE heh
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05:38 schultza is it playable?
05:39 VanessaE yep quite so
05:39 schultza whats missing for features?
05:39 VanessaE depends on what you want, really
05:40 VanessaE if you expect a pure MC clone, one could say it's missing a lot - it doesn't have "The End" for example.
05:40 VanessaE but that's not the purpose of Minetest
05:40 VanessaE we go our own way.
05:40 schultza well, im looking for a free 2 play minecraft like game that has multiplayer.. .and we can build, farm, mine, etc... im not wating the ....the end... yet
05:41 schultza and survival like mode... eat/drink to survive
05:41 VanessaE you've more or less found the right place then
05:41 VanessaE Minetest is a game engine and there are several game packages that run on it - among them are Minetest Game (the "default" one), Carbone, Nodetopia, Dreambuilder, Realtest, and several more, maintained by different people
05:42 schultza how does it compare vs manic digger?
05:42 VanessaE multiplayer is a standard part of the engine and all of the games, most of them have some farming features
05:42 VanessaE they all center around mining in some way
05:42 VanessaE most support survival, with eating at least.
05:43 VanessaE um, never played manic miner.
05:43 VanessaE (I've never played MC either)
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06:00 schultza ugh... this is barren
06:00 schultza what did i do wrong on the generation?
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06:23 blaise kahrl: I did a git clone from VanessaE's pipeworks repo
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10:03 CaveJohnson Calinou: hi
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10:15 Calinou hi
10:36 CaveJohnson Calinou: what servers do you frequent in btw? (about to go find some)
10:37 * sfan5 meows at CaveJohnson
10:38 reactor Anyone ever managed to run pyspades?
10:38 CaveJohnson goddammit sfan4
10:38 reactor What is that stupid gag about building python scripts?
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10:45 Calinou CaveJohnson, VanessaE's
10:45 Calinou no server runs a recent vanilla version of Carbone :(
10:45 Calinou this is sad, due to how some things in minetest_game suck (too fast sinking, too slow movement, too loud sand sounds)
10:46 CaveJohnson :(
10:46 CaveJohnson Calinou: is that open to people?
10:46 CaveJohnson (and what is their gender?)
10:47 Calinou ?
10:47 CaveJohnson i mean, is the server open to new user, Calinou?
10:47 Calinou you need to ask for interact
10:47 CaveJohnson and is VanessaE female or male?
10:47 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&t=4057
10:47 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&t=7017
10:47 CaveJohnson (i would have assumed female because of the nick)
10:47 Calinou there are at least 4 servers
10:47 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&t=8364
10:47 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&t=9317
10:47 CaveJohnson o.
10:47 CaveJohnson o
10:47 Calinou creative, survival, mostly vanilla (few mods, the other ones have lots of mods), FFA (griefing allowed)
10:48 Calinou yes, female
10:49 CaveJohnson ah :)
10:49 CaveJohnson oh wow
10:49 CaveJohnson https://github.com/VanessaE impressive
10:49 CaveJohnson (contribution graph)
10:49 Calinou my contribution graph has gone low, due to not having repositories on GitHub anymore
10:49 Calinou https://gitorious.org/Calinou/
10:49 CaveJohnson understandable :P
10:49 Calinou watch this instead
10:49 CaveJohnson okay :)
10:50 Calinou https://gitorious.org/~calinou1
10:50 Calinou actual profile page ^
10:50 Calinou I didn't know there was such a thing, heh
10:50 CaveJohnson heh, nice avatar, Calinou :P
10:51 Calinou available in sizes from 60² to 256², between 150 and 260 bytes only
10:51 Calinou yet looks good, has slightly rounded corner
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10:51 * CaveJohnson signs up
10:52 CaveJohnson done, now for SSH keys
10:53 Calinou yeah, I ended up using SSH keys because I thought they were mandatory
10:53 CaveJohnson D:
10:54 CaveJohnson !later tell calinou *puts rarity on Calinou's head*
10:54 CaveJohnson fak
10:54 CaveJohnson !tell calinou *puts rarity on Calinou's head*
10:54 MinetestBot CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when calinou is around
10:55 CaveJohnson :D
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11:00 CaveJohnson !tell VanessaE sorry if this seems quite rude coming from someone who has only been playing Minetest a little, but would it be possible to have interact permissions on your survival server?
11:00 MinetestBot CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around
11:02 CaveJohnson uhhh
11:02 CaveJohnson !tell VanessaE (username zackp30)
11:02 MinetestBot CaveJohnson: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around
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11:12 CaveJohnson b highm
11:12 CaveJohnson oops
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11:57 jin_xi ugh
11:59 * sfan5 meows at CaveJohnson
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12:53 ispn Hi all
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13:08 ispn what's the key for flying down in MT?
13:14 PenguinDad ispn: you fly down with shift by default
13:14 ispn ok cool, works
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13:32 Krock http://i.imgur.com/vs7Kr.gif?1
13:33 Krock ispn, turn off fly mode works too :P
13:33 ispn Krock: yes, it's pretty fast :)
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13:39 PenguinDad Krock: but it might end "bloody"
13:40 Krock PenguinDad, hmm? could be, yes.
13:41 PenguinDad descending with shift is a tiny bit more safe
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14:57 VanessaE CaveJohnson: no worries, that's not rude at all.  Interact granted.
14:57 MinetestBot VanessaE: 08-17 16:00 UTC <CaveJohnson> sorry if this seems quite rude coming from someone who has only been playing Minetest a little, but would it be possible to have interact permissions on your survival server?
14:57 * VanessaE reads scrollback...
14:57 MinetestBot VanessaE: 08-17 16:02 UTC <CaveJohnson> (username zackp30)
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15:09 ispn hm, /giveme technic:flashlight drops error (unknown item), is syntax ok?
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15:13 PenguinDad ispn: did you enable the technic fleshlight
15:13 PenguinDad *flashlight?
15:13 ispn man that's the most unfortunate typo there -_-
15:14 ispn How do I enable it?
15:14 PenguinDad Fleshlight == Lightsaber :P
15:17 PenguinDad ispn: create a file called technic.conf in the world folder and put "enable_flashlight = "true"" in it
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15:20 rubenwardy Hi all!
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15:21 ispn Hi rubenwardy!
15:21 ispn PenguinDad: doesn't seem to work :/
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15:21 MinetestBot Calinou: 08-17 15:54 UTC <CaveJohnson> *puts rarity on Calinou's head*
15:22 Calinou !tell CaveJohnson *puts Rainbow Dash on CaveJohnson's head*
15:22 MinetestBot Calinou: I'll pass that on when CaveJohnson is around
15:24 PenguinDad ispn: Did you put it there with the quotes?
15:24 * PenguinDad puts Lyra Heartstrings on Calinou's head
15:25 ispn PenguinDad: both with and without, works neither. conf in main game folder, along with minetest conf
15:26 ispn PenguinDad: ahh ok I see, wait a sec
15:26 PenguinDad ispn: put in the folder of the world where you want to play with the flashlight
15:26 ispn PenguinDad: flashlight = true
15:26 ispn ?
15:26 PenguinDad + it
15:28 rubenwardy !seen iqualfragile
15:28 MinetestBot rubenwardy: iqualfragile was last seen at 2014-08-15 14:59:36 UTC on #minetest-de
15:28 ispn PenguinDad: still no success. Too much time spent on it, abandoning for later.
15:30 FreeFull Is there any way to make working with items nicer in minetest? Say, like shift-click in minecraft
15:30 FreeFull Clicking and moving each stack on its own is so slow
15:30 FreeFull I just want to empty some chests and transfer the contents to other chests
15:32 Calinou nope, you can't handle Shift + Click differently
15:32 CaveJohnson VanessaE: thanks! :D
15:32 MinetestBot CaveJohnson: 08-17 20:22 UTC <Calinou> *puts Rainbow Dash on CaveJohnson's head*
15:32 FreeFull ):
15:32 * CaveJohnson puts fluttershy on Calinou's head
15:33 PenguinDad Shift-Click wouldn't be much faster for me
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15:35 FreeFull PenguinDad: Why wouldn't it be?
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15:54 FreeFull 16:53:20: ERROR[main]: ...minetest/mods/homedecor_modpa​ck/building_blocks/init.lua:258: attempt to index global 'stairsplus' (a nil value)  Hmm
15:54 Krock get moreblocks
15:55 FreeFull That's meant to be recommended, not required. Oh well.
15:56 FreeFull I do have moreblocks
15:56 FreeFull I suppose my version of it is old though
15:59 FreeFull Yeah, getting the up to date version fixed it
16:01 Calinou More Blocks (as all my mods and Carbone) are rolling release
16:01 Krock and when's the forum search gonna be fixed?
16:01 Calinou update them often
16:02 Calinou Krock, it can't
16:02 Calinou PunBB-era topics need to be deleted and re-posted
16:02 CaveJohnson ouch...
16:02 Krock but... you can still view them
16:02 CaveJohnson discourse <3
16:02 Calinou Discource doesn't suit our uses
16:03 CaveJohnson Calinou: may i ask why? it's quite a nice forum software :P
16:03 Calinou doesn't fit mod topics, texture pack topics…
16:03 Calinou large discussion topics
16:03 Calinou limited styling
16:03 Calinou (phpBB styling is quite powerful)
16:04 Calinou moderation isn't that fool-proof
16:04 Calinou (phpBB is pretty fool-proof)
16:04 Calinou the “good old” forum paradigm isn't going away anytime soon
16:04 Calinou huge corporations are still using it
16:04 CaveJohnson i don't understand :P
16:05 CaveJohnson do you mean that there's just categories, instead of the traditional "seperate boards"?
16:08 Calinou yes, hipster stuff
16:08 Calinou doesn't suit language-specific sections
16:08 Calinou really, I hate the Discourse model because it tries to be a revolution
16:10 CaveJohnson well, IMO it's nice, but people have their preferences :P
16:12 rubenwardy I prefer punbb
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16:19 CaveJohnson o.o
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16:19 CaveJohnson haven't seen calinou timing out in a long time
16:19 Calinou connection bugs
16:19 Calinou ISPs never deliver!
16:19 CaveJohnson hehe :P
16:27 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=arti​cle&amp;item=sumo_omni_reloaded&amp;num=1
16:29 PenguinDad lol
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16:30 Cylus I don't think #fedora likes you, Calinou. I don't know what you did to piss them off though, you seemed reasonable to me.
16:31 Cylus (By the way, I sometimes have to reboot too when my trackpoint gives out on me. There should be a command to fix it, but I don't know what it is.)
16:34 rubenwardy Rebooting does apply on any OS.
16:37 Calinou meh, #fedora is always angry
16:37 Calinou like most distribution channels
16:37 Calinou French-speaking distribution channels are way less annoying
16:37 Calinou I don't know why
16:37 Calinou but less people are there, so no quick answer usually
16:39 reactor Calinou: no wonder... It's Fedora eh!
16:39 Calinou no, it's IRC
16:39 reactor That OS is _riddled_ with Poettering's insanity.
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16:39 Calinou people are often asses on IRC
16:39 Calinou (but also English-speaking…)
16:40 Calinou reactor, so is almost common distribution now
16:40 Calinou no first-tier distribution uses (or will use) something other than systemd now
16:40 reactor Because of it.
16:40 reactor It's the centre of that crap.
16:40 Exio4 systemd is like worst thing ever
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16:41 reactor Systemd _is_ insanity. It's unnecessary, non-standard, fault-prone.
16:41 reactor Init is fine.
16:41 jp why debian rock-stable will implement systemd so ?
16:42 reactor Compatibility.
16:43 Cylus I don't really see anger at #debian (on OFTC).
16:44 Cylus What is systemd used for?
16:45 ispn sfan5: Good news. Mesh imports OK as separate objects, and is sculptable using dyntopo (though with errors and a lot of doubles). Will try to slice it with slicer via repetier host, see how it simulates.
16:46 Krock http://i.imgur.com/IpMxwtR.jpg
16:47 Krock sfan5 ^
16:47 ispn sfan5: I think I could script blender to fetch every object from imported obj and replace with metaball easily, will try later. This week will be totally busy.
16:48 reactor Cylus: it's like hipster init.
16:48 Exio4 Cylus, the problem is, what it isn't
16:49 reactor Because init is too mainstream.
16:49 Exio4 it rewrites everything just for the sake of rewriting everything
16:49 Exio4 reactor, hah
16:49 reactor And now, thanks to these assholes, it's becoming mainstream.
16:49 reactor those*
16:49 reactor They're basically cramming everything into PID 1.
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16:49 reactor Okay, people, how about we put X in there?
16:49 reactor And everything that runs under it, huh?!
16:50 reactor And then if something breaks, and breaks terribly, who are you gonna blame? Computer gods?!
16:50 FreeFull Making coal blocks and other items like that is really slow
16:51 cobcorn where do you put mods in minetest for linux?
16:51 cobcorn arch, btw
16:51 cobcorn I didn't see a mod folder in .minetest
16:52 jp create it. "mods" folder
16:52 cobcorn ohk
16:55 cobcorn w00t mesecons
16:57 * Krock puts X to XZ
16:58 Calinou <Cylus> I don't really see anger at #debian (on OFTC).
16:58 Calinou a lot of it
16:58 Calinou not anger as in insults, but, constant passive-aggressivity
16:59 Calinou the user base is usually 30-40 year old sysadmins
16:59 Calinou who don't have much fun in life
16:59 Calinou so it's to be expected
16:59 rubenwardy Am I right in thinking that it is bad to do this in C++: https://github.com/Jeija/plane​ther/blob/master/src/game.hpp
16:59 rubenwardy That is, forward declare but don't include the classes. The classes are included in the equivalent of game.cpp instead.
16:59 sfan5 ispn: glad that it works
17:00 Calinou heh, Jeija is writing his own game
17:00 Calinou …no license
17:01 rubenwardy didn't notice that.
17:01 Calinou made an issue 8)
17:01 Calinou I love reporting licensing issues
17:04 rubenwardy #planether
17:04 CaveJohnson oh, also, Calinou
17:05 CaveJohnson how does the forking system work in gitourious?
17:05 rubenwardy But, anyway, am I right?
17:05 CaveJohnson *gitorious
17:05 Calinou there's a per-project issue tracker and per-repository merge request tracker
17:05 Calinou https://gitorious.org/projects/calinou/issues
17:05 Calinou ^ eg. issues
17:05 Calinou undocumented feature 8)
17:05 Calinou same as .zip download
17:05 Calinou it's hidden
17:05 CaveJohnson i appear to have a made a new repo under your "namespace"
17:05 Calinou I believe it's done so intentionally
17:05 CaveJohnson ahhh
17:05 Calinou https://gitorious.org/Calinou/
17:06 Calinou I see an user clone
17:06 CaveJohnson orite, suddenly it makes sense
17:06 CaveJohnson ok
17:06 CaveJohnson was going to try and contribute, Calinou
17:06 CaveJohnson have to do it like, in a few days tho :(
17:06 Calinou what are you going to make?
17:06 CaveJohnson not sure yet, that's the problem
17:06 Calinou try not to make something which I'll immediately refuse
17:06 Calinou (including but not limited to: “Timbering” trees and cacti, Minecraft-like mob knockback, hunger…)
17:06 CaveJohnson Calinou: omg i'm going to add cars ;)
17:07 Calinou try focusing on fixes or subtle enhancements instead
17:07 Calinou to avoid refusal
17:07 Calinou this is valid for any project
17:07 CaveJohnson okay, will do :)
17:07 CaveJohnson also Lua <3
17:08 Calinou indeed
17:08 Calinou imagine if the Web used Lua instead of JavaScript
17:08 * Calinou runs
17:08 CaveJohnson would be cool, actually
17:08 rubenwardy Squirrel
17:08 CaveJohnson JS doesn't have the best syntax
17:08 PenguinDad node.lua :D
17:09 rubenwardy Squirrel is what JS wants to be
17:17 sfan5 meow
17:17 sfan5 :/
17:17 sfan5 Krock: a cat
17:17 sfan5 kitten*
17:18 Krock MEOW
17:18 PenguinDad WÖM :P
17:29 * sfan5 licks PenguinDad
17:29 * PenguinDad meows at sfan5
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17:37 Calinou rubenwardy, JS takes years to evolve
17:37 Calinou it evolves very slowly due to browsers being slow to implement it
17:37 Calinou so people invent hundreds (!) of frameworks to circumvent it
17:42 pitriss Hi, please is there way how to make player names bigger? i mean that titles hovering above heads...
17:43 * Krock gives pitriss https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1513
17:46 cobcorn pitriss: resolution change?
17:48 sfan5 cobcorn: the resolution has no effect on that
17:48 pitriss Krock: thanks.
17:48 pitriss cobcorn: thats not solution for me.. :)
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17:56 Calinou impossible
18:01 Krock ?
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18:34 blaise anyone care to mention some mods that a server simply cannot do without ?
18:35 rubenwardy default
18:35 rubenwardy :P
18:35 PenguinDad we, areas or landrush and maptools, these are essential mods for a server imo
18:35 rubenwardy Depends on the server. WorldEdit. Some form of protection.
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18:37 PenguinDad rubenwardy: a nodetopia server doesn't need default :P
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18:56 blaise are node_owner and areas able to coexist?
18:57 Calinou <blaise> anyone care to mention some mods that a server simply cannot do without ?
18:57 VanessaE no
18:57 Calinou WorldEdit, MapTools
18:57 VanessaE get rid of node_owner
18:57 VanessaE it's outdated.
18:57 Calinou both are bundled in Carbone
18:57 Calinou there's an area lock mod in Carbone too
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19:18 sfan5 >http://www.speedtest.net/result/3695577984.png
19:18 sfan5 pls
19:18 sfan5 Grade: F+
19:18 sfan5 quality internet in 2014 from Telekom
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19:20 Calinou this is speedtest.net
19:21 sfan5 yes
19:21 sfan5 speedof.me has the same result
19:21 Calinou speedof.me works like crap on fast connections
19:21 Calinou most people with fiber trash it :P
19:21 sfan5 tell me what to use
19:21 Calinou despite claiming to be the most accurate speed test
19:21 Calinou http://testdebit.info/
19:21 Calinou wget a file
19:21 Calinou or upload using FTP
19:22 Calinou https://iperf.fr/ maybe too
19:22 sfan5 I don't need to test my upload, I know it's bad because of torrents
19:22 Flipsels both are ookla tests :)
19:23 Flipsels (speedtest & testdebit)
19:25 sfan5 Calinou: 100%[======================================>] 12.500.000   646KB/s   in 21s
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19:25 sfan5 ( http://proof.ovh.net/files/100Mb.dat )
19:25 Calinou Flipsels, how do you know?
19:26 Flipsels the speedtest app on android says ookla, the testdebit.info says it on the site
19:26 Flipsels Oh, speedtest.net too
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19:36 ispn sfan5: posting results from slicing in thread, with screenshots. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtop​ic.php?f=3&amp;t=9923&amp;start=25
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19:37 sfan5 ispn: wow, *looks*
19:37 sfan5 o
19:37 sfan5 look
19:37 sfan5 a q66
19:38 * PenguinDad quaks at q66 :P
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19:41 BlockBuilder99 Hi
19:41 sfan5 hi
19:41 BlockBuilder99 i have some questionns about MineTest,,,
19:41 sfan5 just ask
19:41 LemonLake ask away
19:41 BlockBuilder99 lemme get my souirces
19:42 BlockBuilder99 *sources
19:42 LemonLake got some in the cupboard, do you like ketchup?
19:42 BlockBuilder99 i hate red stuff
19:42 BlockBuilder99 cant stand it
19:42 LemonLake i see
19:42 BlockBuilder99 anyway, trees
19:42 ispn sfan5: 3d prints tomorrow hopefully, should be no problem at this stage. Glad as hell it works :D Thanks man! PM@forum to claim your prize :>
19:42 LemonLake well in my client my name happens to be red so.. im say now
19:42 LemonLake s/say/sad/
19:42 BlockBuilder99 oh sorry LemonLake
19:42 LemonLake nah nah man
19:43 LemonLake 'tis chill
19:43 BlockBuilder99 You make me forget
19:43 BlockBuilder99 trees
19:43 LemonLake tree...
19:43 LemonLake s.
19:43 BlockBuilder99 Is there smth like treecapitator for MC?
19:43 Flipsels the wooden thingies
19:43 sfan5 lol
19:43 LemonLake there are many of those
19:43 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4772
19:43 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1590
19:43 sfan5 ispn: is the "prize" the 3D modeling thingy?
19:44 PenguinDad I prefer TreeCapacitors :P
19:44 ispn sfan5: or drawing, yeah.
19:44 LemonLake Capacitor?
19:44 LemonLake So there are capacitors made out of trees now?
19:44 BlockBuilder99 I'm sure someone could come up with why they are
19:45 LemonLake speaking of drawing, i should probably make another minim soon
19:45 LemonLake though at this rate they're hardly minims
19:45 LemonLake they look more just like regular vectors
19:46 BlockBuilder99 Actually i do want the ketchup
19:46 sfan5 ispn: can 3d printed structures have different colors?
19:46 LemonLake next up is ms. yandere
19:47 user____1 what is up
19:47 LemonLake some clouds
19:47 ispn sfan5: Depends. Some technologies take color data, but they are expensive. FFF (the reprap kind of machines that spew plastic from hot nozzle) can take as much materials as they have nozzles. Usually 2, and no mixing.
19:47 LemonLake maybe a sky
19:47 LemonLake depends on your religious beliefs
19:48 ispn sfan5: there are printers that have 6 nozzles, but it's problematic, they drool hot plastic all over the print since they have no valves.
19:48 Highlander_ hey
19:48 LemonLake yuno's a difficult one...
19:48 sfan5 sounds like 3d printers still need many improving
19:48 BlockBuilder99 Hi Highlander_
19:48 Highlander_ hi
19:48 sfan5 ispn: so you'll be doing 1-color modeling with the kids then?
19:49 ispn sfan5: so for FFF it's 2 colors max, preferably 1 and soluble support.
19:49 ispn sfan5: kids are cool, they can paint those things later for extra fun :)
19:49 sfan5 sounds interesting
19:49 LemonLake flippin heck, she has so many colour schemes
19:49 Highlander_ lol kids are nice apart from when they turn into teenagers.
19:49 Calinou consumer 3D printing is recent
19:49 sfan5 Highlander_: depends
19:50 Calinou expect at least 5 years to have mature ones
19:50 sfan5 Highlander_: ..on the maturity
19:50 Highlander_ mine just got angsty as fudge.
19:50 Calinou fun fact: you can print in metal, chocolate…
19:50 LemonLake Highlander_: welcome to puberty
19:50 Highlander_ Yeah it took till I think they were 15 - 16 before they started to become mature.
19:50 LemonLake Calinou: im sold
19:50 ispn Highlander_: i know one guy that got his kids angry with the world instead of the family, it was epic.
19:50 * Calinou buys LemonLake
19:50 Highlander_ lol i've had 2 kids I know what it's like
19:50 Highlander_ oh loool
19:50 LemonLake Calinou: That's...
19:50 LemonLake Really not what I meant.
19:50 sfan5 Calinou: fun fact: there is a japanese game show where people have to figure out whether (ordinary) stuff is made out of chocolate
19:51 ispn sfan5: fuck yeah japanese game shows :D
19:51 sfan5 :D :D
19:51 LemonLake sfan5: I saw that.
19:51 LemonLake 'twas really messed up.
19:51 Highlander_ trading ctcps sfan5 eh?
19:52 sfan5 Highlander_: you started
19:52 sfan5 LemonLake: nah
19:52 Calinou <ispn> Highlander_: i know one guy that got his kids angry with the world instead of the family, it was epic.
19:52 Calinou uh?
19:52 Highlander_ i'm curious if anyone else was using irssi
19:52 LemonLake sirsrisriisrisrirriiisirsr
19:52 PenguinDad CTCP == Cat to Cat protocol :D
19:52 Highlander_ lol true ^
19:54 Calinou HexChat here
19:54 LemonLake ^
19:54 PenguinDad WeeChat here
19:54 * sfan5 yays at Calinou (same, HexChat here too)
19:54 Calinou PonyChat.
19:55 Highlander_ Hey nice someone with a CLI client, nice one PenguinDad
19:56 sfan5 LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/wfD1bUp.gif
19:56 LemonLake cool
19:56 sfan5 LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/nrYvnwG.jpg
19:57 LemonLake > teen
19:57 LemonLake > teeen
19:57 Calinou WeeChat 1.0 was released 2 days ago
19:57 sfan5 ok, I have other things to do...
19:58 sfan5 LemonLake: http://www.reddit.com/r/JapaneseGameShows
20:00 LemonLake agh
20:00 LemonLake I'll draw later
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20:00 BlockBuilder99 Highlander_: I use irssi
20:02 Highlander_ niice
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20:09 basilgohar Is connecting a technic grinder with a technic electric furnace supposed to allow ground items to flow automatically?
20:09 basilgohar Or does that need an external mesecon signal to trigger the "pumping" action?
20:11 blaise how to I change initial privliges?
20:11 blaise so I can give everyone areas privliges
20:11 VanessaE blaise: don't give ANYONE the areas priv!
20:11 VanessaE that's for admins.
20:11 blaise lol
20:12 blaise great
20:12 blaise how do I take it away?
20:12 blaise "/grant someone -areas" ?
20:12 VanessaE /revoke <user> <priv>
20:13 VanessaE if you want to allow users to self-protect, turn that feature on specifically ( areas.self_protection = true  in minetest.conf )
20:13 * BlockBuilder99 is bored
20:13 raffahacks Hi VanessaE
20:13 VanessaE hi
20:13 BlockBuilder99 Cya all!
20:14 blaise ah, it already was
20:14 blaise k
20:16 basilgohar I meant connecting the grinder with the furnace via tubes..
20:17 VanessaE basilgohar: I believe you have to use mesecons signals to keep the items pumping, or upgrade your grinder et al.  I seem to remember there being upgrade slots in them to take a controller chip
20:20 raffahacks How much ram does minetest take? Less than 500?
20:20 VanessaE depends on what you're doing
20:21 VanessaE a basic game should do fair on 512MB
20:21 VanessaE large texture packs like HDX can take 6-8 GB on older Minetest installs (less on newer versions)
20:21 VanessaE depends on the game you play and a lot more
20:21 Calinou server is gentle on RAM
20:24 raffahacks How much does minetest download before connecting to an average heavy server for the first time online?
20:27 VanessaE depends on the server.
20:28 VanessaE my vanilla server, which is minetest_game plus only a small number of lightweight mods, only has about 4.8 MB of media to send.
20:28 VanessaE meanwhile, Dreambuilder-based servers have around 35 MB of media.
20:29 raffahacks VanessaE: for example, yours
20:29 VanessaE (e.g. my Survival server)
20:29 raffahacks Wow, just 5mb
20:29 VanessaE mmhmm.
20:29 raffahacks What is vanilla
20:30 PenguinDad raffahacks: vanilla is tasty :P
20:30 VanessaE digitalaudioconcepts.com port 30005
20:30 VanessaE it's my lightweight server for lower-end machines and tablets etc.
20:31 Sokomine irks. just digged some wheat on desert sand soil - and the whole field started tumbling downward. seems desert sand soil inherited the falling property?
20:31 VanessaE why wouldn't it?
20:31 VanessaE it's still sand :P
20:32 Calinou https://github.com/Jeija/planether/issues/4
20:32 Calinou I won
20:32 * Calinou hallelujah
20:33 Sokomine how am i supposed to make it stay wet now and let plants grow? i placed water below the field via mapgen...and was hoping that'd work
20:33 * PenguinDad hands Calinou a cookie
20:33 Sokomine might still work with water 1 more below. hm. or a special soil for the villages? not much point in having abms running anyway. hm
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20:34 VanessaE Sokomine: offtopic...  seen this yet?  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vane​ssa/hobbies/minetest/homedecor-craft​ing-guide/homedecor-craft-guide.html
20:34 VanessaE (brag)
20:34 VanessaE Sokomine: most people put dirt water dirt water ....  side by side
20:34 VanessaE with a base of dirt or stone.
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20:35 Sokomine vanessae: yes, of course i have :-) it's a very nice, through documentation. if all mods where documented like that, we'd have less problems
20:35 Sokomine vanessae: still, homedecor got BIG. without a good crafting guide, it's difficult to craft all the stuff. i hope to eventually get around to teach my traders to sell homedecor items. perhaps for gold or silver ingots or the like
20:36 VanessaE which is why I made a good crafting guide :D
20:36 Sokomine then players might go to a shop in their singleplayer world and buy their furniture :-)
20:36 Sokomine yes. the html documentation supplements the craft guide, which can only show the receipes and items as such, but not provide additional information
20:37 * Sokomine puts a few used glasses in the dishwasher
20:37 VanessaE I should make that thing functional.
20:37 Sokomine make that html-craftguide universal :-) someone pointed to a script for that (afaik written by cornernote?)
20:38 VanessaE (but who would define "dirty glass" in their mod? :P )
20:38 Sokomine *g* rather unlikely, yes. seems players occasinally need a bit of...glass...to remain healthy. a glass of apple juice leads to the entire glass disappearing...
20:38 VanessaE heh
20:38 Sokomine either we drink it or we throw it away immediately after use. very strange anyway :-)
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20:39 VanessaE pretty sad considering I provided a recycle path in the vessels mod.
20:40 Sokomine *nod*
20:40 VanessaE but it doesn't help that the engine doesn't handle craft replacements correctly.
20:41 VanessaE (if you craft a whole bunch of something, you only ever get one item back for a given replacement entry even if you are owed a large number)
20:43 Sokomine machines may help...
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20:47 BlockBuilder99 Hi
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21:02 Calinou http://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments​/2cve2v/random_question_out_of_curiosity/
21:02 Calinou lol
21:02 Calinou made my day… :\
21:02 VanessaE ^^^^ send them to my FreeForAll server.
21:03 VanessaE seems like that's exactly what he wants.
21:03 VanessaE the only rule there is no foul language.
21:03 Calinou no, he's really into politics
21:03 VanessaE everything else goes.
21:03 Calinou see the comment at the bottom
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21:03 Calinou I'll post comment about your FFA server anyway
21:04 gerard Is there Flux for linux?
21:04 Calinou but I got bored of that kind of server :( due to empathy, lol
21:04 Calinou on Minecraft I used to play a lot on hardcore PvP servers, grief, kill
21:04 Calinou now I feel bad when doing it :<
21:04 Calinou gerard, there's redshift
21:04 VanessaE FFA is port 30006 I think
21:04 Calinou which does the same thing (decrease brightness at night)
21:05 gerard Well, it's colour but ok aha
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21:06 gerard I used to play servers a lot and just talk so much that I became friends with the top players then the owner- and become a Mod :)
21:06 gerard I was also the richest on a big server, selling Golden Apples to the shop
21:07 gerard Calinou, is there a good PvP/grief server?
21:07 reactor grief server
21:07 reactor Where everyone's sad.
21:08 gerard Well it's usually factions on Minecraft so only if your faction's weak :P
21:08 gerard Or your friends with admins and have unlimited TNT to make canons..
21:09 Calinou VanessaE's server
21:09 Calinou doesn't have much players, but better than nothing
21:09 Calinou an hardcore PvP server works really well when it has dozens of players
21:10 Calinou (ideally, players that aren't mobile clients, so that excludes the “just test” server)
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21:10 gerard Damn, redshift stays open for 2seconds then closes itself
21:10 Calinou gerard, the problem with most Minecraft _and_ Minetest servers is that they don't encourage interaction; that way, multiplayer is mostly about chatting, and not cooperating. :(
21:10 Calinou so that's why it gets boring
21:10 Calinou <reactor> Where everyone's sad.
21:10 Calinou where everyone cheats…
21:11 reactor Cheating == sad?
21:11 gerard But with the Faction plugin it is
21:11 reactor The problem is most players whine about privileges and gimme this gimme that and teleport mee as soon as they join.
21:12 gerard Only in small servers :/ All Minetest ones
21:16 reactor щ?
21:19 Calinou run an unlisted server
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21:19 Calinou one that isn't on the list
21:19 Calinou post it on forums
21:21 gerard I don't know whether the community should be young because it's free or older because it's harder to find and will have people who like FOSS(?)
21:22 Calinou because it's a Minecraft-like game
21:22 reactor Probably same proportion.
21:22 Calinou Minecraft is an universal kid glue
21:22 Calinou so all the “clones” behave the same way
21:23 Calinou https://github.com/MovingBl​ocks/Terasology/issues/1175
21:23 Calinou this isn't better on Terasology either
21:24 gerard First server I went on had an 8,9 and 11 year old aha
21:24 gerard Oh lord they made an account for that?
21:24 reactor The problem with forums is, they have to be accessed via clumsy web-interface.
21:25 gerard Why do all forum sites seem like theyre atleast 4 years old, or more
21:25 Calinou https://github.com/MovingBl​ocks/Terasology/issues/1167
21:25 Calinou this one too, lol
21:26 reactor Because web inteface is a meintenance hell.
21:26 reactor maint*
21:26 reactor Mailing lists rule.
21:26 reactor You can use any interface you like with mail.
21:27 gerard They all seem to be the same design, can't remember what its called now
21:27 reactor It's called 'I will confuse the hell outa you'.
21:28 gerard "vBulletin" ?
21:29 reactor I believe MT forums use phpBB
21:29 gerard This is just terrible http://www.mpgh.net/
21:30 gerard And the content
21:30 reactor Yes.
21:31 reactor "O tempora o mores!", eh.
21:33 gerard People really spend so much time bruteforcing Minecraft accounts... sad
21:33 gerard Probably mostly kids they're taking accounts from
21:34 reactor Heh.
21:34 reactor And still no protection against that?!
21:35 LemonLake How would you protect it?
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21:37 gerard They have to sign in with email now!
21:37 LemonLake yeah, that's mojang being mojang
21:37 LemonLake it's a pain in the ass to get on classic now
21:38 gerard You can still play classic? :)
21:42 reactor LemonLake: timeout
21:42 reactor 3 attempts -- wait 10 minutes
21:43 reactor That'd slow them down _considerably_.
21:50 Sokomine lemoncake: there's that classicube client now. it works better than the old classic client. sadly, people seem to no longer beeing able to locate that, so mc classic servers got very empty
21:51 ispn reactor: true about mailing lists. But email in present form sucks. Tool from different times. There are no good solutions at present.
21:52 reactor How does mail suck?
21:52 reactor It does the job just fine.
21:53 ispn reactor: when you don't have to keep the mailing list spam free, then yes.
21:53 reactor Oh you mean that...
21:53 reactor That is a problem, yes.
21:54 ispn reactor: plaintext by default. People with messy webmails and coding that %*&3propagates d&9wn the whole thread
21:54 reactor What's the problem with plaintext?
21:55 reactor It _is_ good that it's plaintext by default.
21:55 reactor Nobody wants all that HTML cruft in there.
21:55 ispn reactor: I meant lack of encryption
21:55 reactor That is the problem of mail servers.
21:56 ispn reactor: it is a tool for experienced people, a tool that should be taught, yet no one does that.
21:56 ispn reactor: no ,of users who send plaintext.
21:56 reactor People better read manuals.
21:56 ispn reactor: email is badly neglected
21:57 ispn reactor: if world worked that way, 60% of the population would be writing code, or at least doing awesome stuff.
21:57 reactor Then what are they doing? Are they supposed to be using devices as complicated as computers anyway?
21:58 ispn reactor: reality is such that >60% of people are lemmings, and they dictate stuff by being a brainless, impulsive elongation of their wallets.
21:58 reactor Developed countries lack agricultural workers, just saying.
21:58 ispn reactor: no, but there's no one to stop them. Millions are being spent so that they can do that more magically (touch interfaces)
21:59 reactor Exactly, what are they supposed to do with technology?
21:59 ispn (use computers)
21:59 reactor You let them in -- they fuck you up.
21:59 ispn reactor: facebook, twitter, porn
21:59 ispn reactor: youtube
21:59 Calinou Classic is completely worthless in 2014
21:59 reactor This has already happened ^
21:59 Calinou Minetest beats it in every way, since 2011
22:00 ispn reactor: exactly, and in recent years is being monetized through targeted ads and other crazy stuff. THousands of startups for that.
22:00 Calinou “monetized” :/
22:00 ispn Calinou: sorry if that;s not a work in ENglish :)
22:00 reactor Dystopian consumerism.
22:01 reactor Nobody can come up with ways to fix it, nobody bothers to.
22:01 ispn reactor: kind of, yeah, depends on the mindset. For some it's a world of possibilities.
22:01 Calinou it is, but I believe it's a bad word when it's used to mean “convert something into money”: it supposes money is what really counts
22:01 ispn reactor: it takes away scruples and prioritizes aims.
22:01 gerard Can you run a .jar rather than opening as an archive?
22:01 Calinou “monetize” can mean “use as currency”
22:02 Calinou gerard, java -jar <jarname>
22:02 ispn Calinou: in that case it is, used it on purpose.
22:02 reactor Of course one can make money on lemmings.
22:03 reactor But that backfires -- they will have to buy stupider devices for their own apartment.
22:03 reactor Just because companies making proper stuff go bankrupt -- nobody buys it.
22:03 reactor s/ --/:/
22:03 ispn reactor: Depends on how you do it. Saw Facebook backlash when they invaded privacy by introducing features?
22:04 gerard Too little memory to run the MC launcher xD
22:04 reactor ispn: heard of it, yes.
22:04 reactor that*
22:05 ispn reactor: people don't see the environment as oppressive. THey get along. Change that, require them to stop being stupid, and they will conform. They will become clever out of laziness.
22:06 ispn reactor: closing stuff up, making it dumber and more limited is the way to go.
22:06 ispn reactor: it will backfire sooner or later.
22:06 reactor Somebody _wants_ them to be stupid.
22:07 Exio4 argument of why apple rocks: because i've more nice stuff preinstalled
22:07 ispn reactor: yes, and it's a good thing, I think. THe way to make a human resistant to being used, is to use him beyond his acceptable boundaries.
22:07 ispn reactor: no other way
22:07 Exio4 i said, "but why're you paying so much if you could do that with half or less the money?" -> "because they have it by default"
22:08 gerard "There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue" schweet
22:08 reactor gerard: Java.
22:08 gerard oui?
22:10 ispn Exio4: you could actually calculate that, make a list, make a hourly wage for yourself that would take into consideration preinstalling stuff, and make a good calculation which of the options is better in which scenario.
22:10 ispn Exio4: saying such a thing, you are relying on instincts, the precise thing that is a target of marketing.
22:11 reactor Or you can type in a couple commands, and there you go -- everything installed, for free!
22:12 ispn reactor: and modifiable
22:12 reactor Indeed.
22:12 reactor You can peek into it, study it, fix it.
22:12 ispn reactor: what no other machine has is optimization of interface. Not to the degree FLOSS has, ever.
22:13 gerard k i dunt get iyt, imagow
22:13 ispn reactor: People using Zbrush get hyped up that they can launch other programs from Zbrush without having to export-import stuff, saving precious time. It's a huge technological advancement no other software has, you see. /sarcasm
22:13 reactor gerard: гДПЮБЯРБСИРЕ!
22:15 reactor !
22:16 ispn off to sleep
22:17 reactor G'night!
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22:23 gerard Do I need to do "java -jar JARNAME" everytime?
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22:38 MinetestBot realtinymonster: 06-14 17:44 UTC <Krock> I know.
22:39 realtinymonster lol
22:39 realtinymonster so long ago
22:39 realtinymonster I have the greatest timing
22:40 realtinymonster I was just coming to talk with PenguinDad
22:40 realtinymonster :/
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22:40 realtinymonster yay! that was fast
22:40 * PenguinDad looks at the logs
22:41 realtinymonster thanks PenguinDad for the optipng commit to gitpack
22:41 PenguinDad realtinymonster: no problem
22:43 realtinymonster I need to find a person that is willing to convert gitpack to minecraft format in #minecraft... doubt i'll have much luck, most of those guys are quite some asses
22:46 PenguinDad TIL "-march=native -O2" is often faster than "-march=native -O3"
22:48 rayn_ thats
22:48 rayn_ p well documented
22:48 PenguinDad As if I would read the docs :D
22:49 rayn_ -Os is even faster
22:49 rayn_ you should always use that
22:50 Vazon Sokomine: i have come across a problem with the colormachine mod
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22:59 LemonLake yo yo sup
23:00 PenguinDad Hey LemonLake
23:00 LemonLake do you get an award for creating the most boring game logo?
23:07 blaise hey, what ever happened to the stargate mod ?
23:08 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2135 this one?
23:08 blaise did it get abandoned in favor of something better?
23:08 blaise https://github.com/minetest-technic/stargate
23:08 blaise that one
23:08 LemonLake I can only guess
23:09 LemonLake Geez, I'm probably the worst developer. I forgotten how to get a resource in the engine for my own (kinda) game.
23:10 blaise I have a problem with the areas mod
23:10 blaise :\
23:11 LemonLake What's your problem?
23:11 blaise if the server crashes, or get's shut down
23:11 blaise peoples areas nodes vanish
23:11 blaise and they have to set them again
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23:21 realtinymonster yo LemonLake
23:21 LemonLake yoo rtm!
23:21 LemonLake sup?
23:22 realtinymonster nm, you?
23:22 realtinymonster starting school again on wednesday
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23:22 LemonLake not much, been wasting the holidays with anime, drawing and sleep
23:23 LemonLake 0% productivity :P
23:23 realtinymonster pretty much the same, except replace drawing with building a house
23:23 LemonLake building a house? :o
23:23 realtinymonster ay
23:23 LemonLake like, a real house?
23:23 realtinymonster yeah
23:24 LemonLake nice
23:24 LemonLake that's more fun than drawing :D
23:24 realtinymonster 56,000 sq. ft.
23:24 realtinymonster ~
23:24 LemonLake that's pretty neat
23:24 LemonLake "Debug Assertion Failed!" << that right there is my life in a nutshell
23:25 realtinymonster lol
23:25 realtinymonster what engine?
23:26 realtinymonster ^ LemonLake
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23:28 lemonlake_ dang
23:28 lemonlake_ my internet just took a dump on itsel
23:28 lemonlake_ f
23:29 blaise on, itself?!
23:29 lemonlake_ <realtinymonster> what engine?
23:29 lemonlake_ <LemonLake> SFML
23:29 lemonlake_ <LemonLake> I'm the codev of the game, and I'm really unaffiliated with the setup since I haven't worked on it in a while
23:29 lemonlake_ yes
23:29 blaise what game?
23:29 lemonlake_ Bread Hunter
23:29 lemonlake_ It's nothing special yet
23:30 blaise is that anything like bread cat?
23:30 LemonLake Never heard of it
23:30 blaise what about star citizen ?
23:30 LemonLake Ditto.
23:30 blaise eve online ?
23:30 LemonLake In no way.
23:30 blaise rise of the triad?
23:30 blaise duke nukem?
23:30 LemonLake Think of it like an RPG/multiplayer shooter mix
23:30 blaise lemmings?
23:31 LemonLake But it's a game where nothing makes sense
23:31 LemonLake The land of lack of fucks
23:31 blaise how about wolfenstien?
23:31 LemonLake I can't really compare it to anything.
23:31 blaise doom?
23:31 realtinymonster LemonLake: LOL
23:31 blaise compare?
23:31 LemonLake Yes.
23:31 LemonLake I can't necessarily compare it to anything.
23:31 realtinymonster screenies?
23:31 blaise I was just wondering if you had heard of anything, ever..
23:31 LemonLake I'd give you screenies but the main menu is currently in development
23:31 realtinymonster or not to sthat stage?
23:31 realtinymonster ah
23:32 LemonLake And I'm no pro at Guis, the other dev is gonna make that tomorrow.
23:32 LemonLake Which means there's currently no entrance into the actual game
23:33 realtinymonster ah
23:33 realtinymonster can you hacked state launch it?
23:34 LemonLake When I can solve this vector error, maybe.
23:34 realtinymonster ah, cool
23:35 LemonLake By the looks of it, it's simply me not clamping a value
23:36 LemonLake That did it
23:38 LemonLake TIL the game is conveniently divided into scenes
23:38 FreeFull Is there a bed mod which has king-sized beds?
23:38 FreeFull I'm thinking 3x2
23:39 VanessaE FreeFull: I could perhaps add such a thing to homedecor.
23:39 FreeFull VanessaE: I'd be delighted if you would
23:40 LemonLake realtinymonster: https://mediacru.sh/XT56MvPe__7U.png
23:40 LemonLake I tell you now, that's a super temporary tower texture not made by me
23:40 LemonLake And the player texture may be completely changed
23:41 VanessaE "temporary" doesn't do it justice ;)
23:41 LemonLake lol
23:41 realtinymonster looks good, interesting cam angle
23:42 FreeFull https://imgur.com/a/NMh3q Here are some screenshots from my current minetest world. Not too impressive, but still
23:42 VanessaE nice
23:42 FreeFull The tower and storage area were built today
23:43 LemonLake that's a nice world you got there
23:43 VanessaE "be a shame if something happened to it" ?
23:43 VanessaE ;)
23:43 LemonLake true that
23:44 FreeFull I don't have any mob mod or anything =P
23:45 VanessaE hahaha
23:45 FreeFull And I doubt you can go and do anything to it
23:45 FreeFull Unless you add some destructive code to homedecor and I run it
23:45 VanessaE no, you just gotta pay protection to c55 ;)
23:45 VanessaE I'd never add destructive code to homedecor :)
23:46 FreeFull Damn, now I miss c55's server again ):
23:46 FreeFull I had builds there!
23:46 VanessaE anyhow, I'll see what I can do later on about making a king size bed
23:46 FreeFull Thanks
23:46 VanessaE probably a "full" size also
23:46 VanessaE (2x2)
23:47 FreeFull I have candles in the bedroom, I think it gives a nice ambiance :)
23:47 VanessaE 3x2....  3 wide or 3 long?  I have a king and it's roughly equal in both directions
23:48 FreeFull I was thinking 3 long
23:48 VanessaE ok
23:48 VanessaE to my mind, that would be queen sized
23:48 realtinymonster VanessaE: Queens must be long :P
23:49 VanessaE heh
23:49 VanessaE I'll see what I can come up with.  it'll be a few days at least though.  taking a coding break.
23:49 VanessaE (mostly)
23:49 LemonLake aight
23:50 LemonLake im gonna get some rest
23:50 VanessaE cya
23:50 LemonLake cya
23:50 realtinymonster enjoy said rest
23:58 realtinymonster for all that enjoy physics games and Lua: #powder

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