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00:01 jentron_ the zip file from http://minetest.net/download is all I need? No datafile or anything?
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00:04 * jentron_ is a complete noob at both minecraft and minecraft but is a wiz at programming and networking in general
00:31 VanessaE jentron_: should be all you need, yeah
00:31 jentron_ Thanks...
00:31 VanessaE other than whatever drivers and dependencies your system calls for of course
00:32 jentron_ Can I have mods in both my global directory /usr/share/games/minetest/mods/ and my user folder /home/jentron/.minetest/mods/ ?
00:32 VanessaE yes
00:32 VanessaE but you don't need them in the global dir
00:32 VanessaE just keep them in ~/.minetest/mods
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00:32 shadowzone I suggest have them in .minetest or you get a buggy game.
00:33 jentron_ I had to hunt down OpenAl32 for windows... And debian put a couple in the global for me
00:33 shadowzone I tried having them in both and it messed it up.
00:33 jentron_ OK, I'll move them
00:33 jentron_ How about on windows?
00:33 VanessaE don't bother with the mods that debian has in its repository.  they're most likely outdated.
00:33 shadowzone I have no idea I have used linux for years.
00:33 VanessaE what version of minetest is this btw>
00:33 jentron_ 0.4.10
00:33 VanessaE good.
00:34 VanessaE at least that is up-to-date :)
00:34 jentron_ They're good if someone at debian cares
00:37 jentron_ Last time I checked they had flightgear pinned 2 versions back
00:37 * jentron_ is a flightgear dev
00:41 Sokomine hm, debian has never been famous for up-to-date versions. yet mt compiles fine under it
00:42 jentron_ Yeah, that's usually what I do. Run stable (stale) stuff I don't care about being bleeding edge on and build my own if I do.
00:42 Sokomine jentron_: exactly
00:43 VanessaE I run debian on two of my machines and it actually behaves quite well on those (my remote server and my network box)
00:43 VanessaE (Xubuntu 14.04 on two others)
00:44 jentron I was thinking about putting a server on  a debian box, then I could share a world with other players?
00:44 Sokomine yes. it's a good basis and runs well. and for those things one wants to have the newest version of, there are compilers
00:45 Sokomine sharing a world and running a server is pretty easy from the technical point of view. it's the administration and caring about the players that's most of the work
00:45 VanessaE yep, that's what I do.
00:46 Sokomine without e.g. an anti-guest-mod, you do get overrun by young kids who want to be your friend, grief everything that's not nailed, kill whatever moves...not all are like this, but many
00:46 jentron I was going to just let my family play... at least for now
00:46 Sokomine that ought to be safe then
00:46 jentron anti-guest-mod, or block at the router?
00:47 Sokomine anti-guest-mod. it blocks people who couldn't be bothered to select a name and go with the default (random) player name
00:47 VanessaE you *could* block at the router too if you really want to keep it inside your LAN.
00:48 VanessaE but that's no fun :)
00:48 jentron I have a big lan.
00:55 jentron Well, times up for today... thanks!
00:55 VanessaE have fun :)
01:00 Jordach jentron, just make sure UDP port 30000 (or the server specified port) is port forwarded
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01:01 Jordach (that's needed for servers)
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03:14 jentron Can I just git clone mods from github into mods/ ?
03:15 VanessaE sure
03:15 Miner_48er yes just check that the name is correct
03:15 VanessaE but you may have to rename them
03:15 VanessaE what he said. :)
03:15 VanessaE ninja'd :)
03:15 jentron :D
03:21 VanessaE what I do is keep them in ~/Minetest-related/mods , clone/pull to there as needed, and copy to ~/.minetest/mods and/or ~/.minetest/games/xxxxx/mods depending on what I'm doing
03:21 VanessaE that way I never have to worry about losing files
03:36 jentron Hmm, the castle mod needs some TLC
03:36 VanessaE jentron: what's wrong with it?
03:36 VanessaE and are you using Dan's version or the older one?
03:36 jentron It has several instances of door: instead of door. and a file is mis-named
03:37 jentron https://github.com/mimilus/castle
03:37 VanessaE hm, not familiar with that one
03:37 VanessaE I only knew of philipbenr's version and Dan's extension of it
03:37 jentron https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp​;t=7159&sid=e7913835a1398064a7d1b42336e256b2
03:38 jentron I guess that is Dan
03:38 VanessaE that is, yeah
03:39 |xk05| by rename, you mean getting rid of the -master suffix on the folder?
03:39 VanessaE yes
03:39 VanessaE and checking that the mod name otherwise is correct
03:39 VanessaE sometimes it'll have the author's name in it
03:39 VanessaE or it'll be wrong case
03:40 VanessaE or it'll be e.g.  Minetest-Mod-xxxxxxx
03:40 VanessaE when it needs to be xxxxxx
03:40 VanessaE depends what the original author named it in the repository
03:40 jentron 21:30:05: ERROR[main]: cannot open /home/jentron/.minetest/mods/cas​tle/castle_towerwallsecret.lua: No such file or directory
03:40 jentron But there is one called castle_secrettowerwall.lua :D
03:41 VanessaE heh
03:43 VanessaE ok now I am caught up
03:43 VanessaE that IS the same mod apparently.
03:43 VanessaE or was as of April this year.
03:43 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=135834#p135834
03:44 VanessaE looks like philipbenr has taken it back under his wing:  https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=9894
03:44 VanessaE guess I need to update soon.
03:45 jentron Crazy... Hopefully they work well together. :)
03:45 VanessaE just get rid of the one you cloned, and Dan's, and get that ^^^^ one.
03:45 VanessaE :)
03:45 VanessaE the way this reads, it supersedes the others.
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03:54 VanessaE however the code therein at git HEAD is identical to the last version Dan released, so I guess philip didn't feel the need to update anything yet.
03:54 |xk05| so right now ive got a technic_game folder in ~/.minetest/games using minetest 4.9
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03:54 VanessaE no matter, trading it out anyway.  I don't use unsupported mods in my game.
03:54 VanessaE |xk05|: 0.4.9...and that's way outdated.
03:54 VanessaE use 0.4.10
03:55 VanessaE 0.4.9 is unsupported.
03:55 |xk05| oh
03:55 jentron how do I set the time to morning?  /time ...?
03:55 |xk05| kubuntu package
03:55 VanessaE get it from the daily builds PPA instead.
03:56 |xk05| ok
03:56 VanessaE https://launchpad.net/~minetestd​evs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
03:57 VanessaE there's also a stable builds repository if dev builds scare you, but they're usually stable :)
03:57 |xk05| i can handle it
03:57 VanessaE k
03:58 |xk05| the ziggaraut demands sacrifice
03:58 VanessaE heh
03:58 * |xk05| chuckles
03:58 WindHero jentron: /time 6000
03:59 jentron Thanks. I was confused because my number pad wasn't working... So, its 24 hour clock with an extra 0 at the end?
03:59 VanessaE yep
03:59 VanessaE more or less
04:00 WindHero military time ;)
04:00 WindHero Let's spice up these mounains, hmm? https://mediacru.sh/cpgdtR61R1AI
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04:01 jentron euro time
04:01 VanessaE WindHero: beautiful
04:02 WindHero thanks :)
04:02 VanessaE ok, I'm off to bed
04:02 WindHero was default:snowblock removed from base game?
04:02 WindHero alright, goodnight~
04:03 jentron how do I know where I am so I can teleport back when I get lost?
04:04 WindHero place or dig a block and look at the printout in the console window
04:04 WindHero also, pressing
04:04 WindHero F5
04:04 WindHero will show your position
04:06 jentron That works, thanks... What happens if I teleport into a rock?
04:06 WindHero pretty much nothing
04:06 WindHero as long as you have a pick or the noclip and fly privs, you're good
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04:11 jentron Last silly question of the night... can I take a building I've built in one game and move it to another? (editing of text files does not scare me)
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04:14 jentron Hmm, probably buried in map.sqlite
04:14 sol_invictus use worldedit
04:18 jentron Thanks, I'll look into that...
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04:31 |xk05| ERROR[main]: ModError: ModError: Failed to load and run /home/don/.minetest/games/te​chnic/mods/wireless/init.lua
04:32 |xk05| what am i doing wrong?
04:33 |xk05| as there is no init.lua file in that directory
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04:39 Miner_48er add the file or disable the mod
04:40 |xk05| mods/moreblocks wants git username and password
04:51 Miner_48er ?
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05:21 |xk05| moreblocks submodule update runs into a permissions problem with the repo
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10:18 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
10:20 PenguinDad ''up minetest.megaf.info 30003
10:20 HLuaBot Unknown command "up". Try "help".
10:22 Megaf I really do need help with this https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/issues/1556#issuecomment-52167033
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11:16 * Jordach meows at PenguinDad
11:20 * PenguinDad meows at Jordach
11:21 Jordach theres been a steam client update again
11:21 Jordach the play button is blue and not green :3
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11:35 sfan5 yay
11:36 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
11:36 * PenguinDad hugs MinetestBot
11:38 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
11:40 * PenguinDad puts a bowl with milk in front of sfan5
11:40 * sfan5 noms the milk
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11:54 Taoki Why is the forum no longer notifying me of new replies in subscribed threads via email?
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12:40 BlockMen i cant decide what bed model looks better, so voting-time: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=151079#p151079
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12:42 jp__ BlockMen : the second, evidently...
12:42 * Jordach is super wet from being out in a rainstore
12:43 Jordach rainstorm
12:43 * BlockMen is surprised of jp's vote ;)
12:43 * sfan5 licks Jordach
12:43 jp__ it's objective, more little details
12:43 * PenguinDad hands Jordach a towel
12:43 Jordach BlockMen, prefer the second, would like coloured beds
12:44 Jordach so Pilz's beds are completely obsolete
12:46 BlockMen Jordach, for now only model. and for each wool color beds bloats everything again
12:46 Jordach BlockMen, lie
12:47 Jordach you made a goddamn on_rightclick function
12:47 Jordach and you can recycle the same model ._.
12:47 BlockMen why should i recyle something i dont like?
12:48 BlockMen and i already said " i won't start to tinker with those complete different mods."
12:48 BlockMen and that wont change
12:51 Jordach please don't make me go Vanessa on you
12:51 sfan5 wat
12:54 Jordach and fork it and end up doing a better job
12:54 Jordach (gloopblocks, gloopores, etc)
12:54 jp__ mine is almost tweakable for a double : http://i.imgur.com/Zs8S1xH.png   :P
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12:56 BlockMen Jordach, lol. if she wants do that and end better up i wont mind. this is no competition
12:56 BlockMen i do my mod the way i like it. and either ppl use it or not
12:57 Jordach jp__, lemme fix that ;)
12:57 jp__ Jordach : it's preferable to keep the feet side lower than the head side I think...
12:57 jp__ matter of aesthetic
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13:02 Jordach jp__, or just fix it :)
13:03 jp__ nothing to fix
13:04 jp__ or perhaps an ABM : if bed above -> feet side border extended
13:04 jp__ but not a priority for the moment...
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13:06 BlockMen jp__, not with an abm
13:06 BlockMen use on_place and on_dig
13:06 BlockMen *or whatever the correct callbacks are called
13:07 Matsetes_ Is there a mod to collect stuff from the ground automatically?
13:08 jp__ Ok thx, BlockMen.
13:09 jp__ Matsetes : https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop
13:09 jp__ ^  Matsetes_
13:10 Matsetes_ I don't want them to drop on the ground
13:11 Matsetes_ I woul like to collect sapling and apple and leaves without clicking 20000 times
13:11 jp__ 'item_drop' can do that
13:12 jp__ Just read in the link instead of to stop on title name...
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13:34 Matsetes_ Ok
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13:39 Matsetes_ It says nothing
13:40 jp__ « This mod adds Minecraft like drop/PICK UP of items to Minetest. »
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13:44 Matsetes_ Yes, but I don't want the drop
13:44 Matsetes_ Only the pick up
13:47 nore it can be configured for that IIRC
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14:22 sol_invictus is it possible to pre-generate particular part of the world?
14:24 Jordach http://www.pcgamingisglory.com/
14:30 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
14:30 sfan5 sol_invictus: yes
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14:36 sfan5 sol_invictus: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/9586533
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14:59 PenguinDad http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Schroding​ers-Attendee-and-more-Best-of-Emails.aspx :D
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15:04 HomelessHedgehog I wonder
15:04 sfan5 you wonder?
15:05 HomelessHedgehog Nah I  forgot what wander
15:05 HomelessHedgehog wonder*
15:06 BlockMen homeless forgot where he wanders? :)
15:06 HomelessHedgehog NO
15:06 BlockMen :P
15:07 shadowzone Homeless do /server isis.inchra.net then /join #minetest
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15:09 someguy_on_irc IM ON IRC
15:09 sfan5 yes you are
15:10 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:10 someguy_on_irc and.
15:10 someguy_on_irc does onez mt server has different room?
15:12 HomelessHedgehog O IDEA :)
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15:12 someguy_on_irc hey
15:12 HomelessHedgehog NO*
15:12 someguy_on_irc wut?
15:12 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:14 shadowzone You two both type out like you would /spawn /server isis.inchra.net then type /join #minetest
15:14 sfan5 shadowzone: I'm pretty sure that doesn't work in webchat
15:14 shadowzone write it down.
15:14 * shadowzone goes off to try it.
15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm
15:15 shadowzone someguy don't do that.
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15:17 someguy_ help
15:17 Shadow|Kiwiirc It works.
15:17 someguy_ what
15:17 Shadow|Kiwiirc someguy_  type out /server isis.inchra.net with the forward slash then /join #minetest
15:17 someguy_ how to do tit..
15:18 someguy_ hmm
15:18 someguy_ didnt do anything
15:18 PenguinDad Shadow|Kiwiirc: someguy_ doesn't use KiwiIRC
15:19 someguy_ ????
15:19 shadowzone kiwiirc and webchat is the same thing right?
15:19 asl there are different webchat
15:19 Shadow|Kiwiirc Oh...
15:19 someguy_ whats the link?
15:20 PenguinDad shadowzone: Freenode webchat is Qwebirc
15:20 asl like irccloud, Qwebirc, and others out there
15:20 someguy_ how to get KiwiIRC?
15:21 Shadow|Kiwiirc someguy_: in a browser type kiwiirc then configure it to isis.inchra.net : 6667  #minetest
15:21 someguy_ ?
15:22 someguy_ it just google's it......
15:22 shadowzone Yep.
15:22 Calinou well, I suggest learning some IRC.
15:22 someguy_ so,?
15:22 shadowzone here
15:22 Calinou not going to be easy.
15:22 someguy_ im  gamer
15:22 shadowzone lemme pm you
15:22 someguy_ not a progtemmer
15:22 someguy_ hmm
15:22 someguy_ programmer*
15:22 someguy_ didnt get the pm
15:23 Calinou IRC isn't only for programmers
15:24 someguy_ hmm
15:25 someguy_ so everyone on this irc are programmers?
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15:26 PenguinDad someguy_: not really
15:26 shadowzone I am.
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15:27 HomelessHedgehog I'm not
15:28 shadowzone I program in lua.
15:28 shadowzone and make mods.
15:28 raffahacks Is there a "moving objects" mod?
15:29 raffahacks Like aircraft in mc
15:29 shadowzone Not that I know of.
15:29 raffahacks Was I clear?
15:30 Calinou raffahacks, there's a meshnodes thingy
15:30 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&t=8059
15:30 Calinou yay!
15:30 PenguinDad but it doesn't work in 0.4.10
15:30 raffahacks Bad
15:31 asl raffahacks, wasn't there a ufo mod that can be call `moving object?`
15:31 Calinou there are tons of vehicle mods: cars, hovercrafts, UFOs, boats (default), carts…
15:31 raffahacks I don't know exactly...
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15:32 raffahacks1 Sorry bad connection
15:34 raffahacks1 I don't know if it's possible, but is there a mod where you build something, than you can move the whole object via some kind of motors and some mese controls?
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15:36 PenguinDad raffahacks1: IIRC technic frames can do that
15:36 raffahacks1 Iirc? What is it?
15:37 sfan5 IIRC -> If I Remember Correctly
15:37 PenguinDad IIRC == If I Recall Correctly
15:37 * sfan5 licks PenguinDad
15:37 raffahacks1 Ah ok ;)
15:38 PenguinDad The ninjakitten ninja'd me :D
15:39 raffahacks1 Are technic frames in technic mod?
15:39 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
15:39 * PenguinDad pets sfan5
15:39 * sfan5 purrs
15:40 PenguinDad raffahacks1: they are in the technic mod
15:40 raffahacks1 And... How do they work?
15:45 raffahacks1 I think Celeron56-1 was very lucky to have all these users contributing his game
15:47 raffahacks1 It is usually difficult to find contributors
15:47 Calinou it's not exceptional either
15:47 Calinou people like Minecraft-style games
15:48 Calinou Minecraft is seen by many as the game of the decade…
15:48 raffahacks1 Was it the first clone?
15:48 zash Minecraft wasn't first
15:48 raffahacks1 Not clone, sorry
15:49 zash It was the one that got the attention tho
15:49 raffahacks1 zash: i think it was the first in 3d
15:49 PenguinDad raffahacks1: actually minecraft is a clone of infiniminer
15:49 raffahacks1 Wasn't it?
15:50 zash I've read about at least two older games that worked similarly
15:50 raffahacks1 Was infiniminer 3d?
15:50 PenguinDad raffahacks1: of course it was
15:51 raffahacks1 Damn commercial world
15:52 sfan5 ?
15:52 PenguinDad Infiniminer was an open source game
15:52 zash Everything boils down to marketing.
15:52 raffahacks1 I mean minecraft success
15:53 sfan5 Minecraft didn't really do marketing
15:53 raffahacks1 For many stupid people, an open source game cannot be "cool"
15:53 raffahacks1 Why didn't it do marketing?
15:54 Calinou “if stupid people flied, it'd always be night”
15:54 sfan5 lol
15:54 PenguinDad lol
15:54 sfan5 Minecraft didn't need marketing
15:54 Calinou the users did the marketing for Mojang as usual.
15:54 zash sfan5: Doesn't mean that nobody did marketing
15:54 raffahacks1 Calinou: lol, cannot stop laughing
15:54 Calinou this is nicely done modern marketing…
15:55 sfan5 zash: Mojang itself didn't do any marketing IIRC
15:55 sfan5 (not direct marketing at least)
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15:56 raffahacks1 Just see my classmates saying linux is crap without having ever tried it
15:57 zash Linux /is/ crap, that's why it's popular ;)
15:58 raffahacks1 Maybe without knowing that their dear phone AND tablet AND surveillance cameras AND their father's car AND their TV run it
15:58 raffahacks1 zash: ?
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15:59 raffahacks1 Mac OS has at least an idea behind, but Windows...
15:59 HomelessHedgehog had to switch device
16:00 zash raffahacks1: ask kernel design perfectionists, they'll tell you about the awesomeness of microkernels
16:02 raffahacks1 I don't really know why microkernels are better than monolythic kernels. Why a server / client structure?
16:02 raffahacks1 Aren't linux, windoze and os x all monolythic?
16:05 zash I thougt OS X had a more microkernel-ish kernel. But I don't really care much for Apple
16:06 PenguinDad Windows and OS X both have Hybrid Kernels
16:07 raffahacks1 I love linux because it's completely hackable
16:07 raffahacks1 Hybrid?
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16:07 Calinou sfan5, they sold prepaid cards in Walmart (to have more kids) ;)
16:08 sfan5 Calinou: not direct marketing
16:08 PenguinDad raffahacks1: Not a real Monolithic Kernel but not a real Microkernel either
16:09 raffahacks1 I deduced that, but in which way?
16:09 zash raffahacks1: Darwin, OS X's kernel is FOSS too FWIW :)
16:09 raffahacks1 :)
16:10 Calinou which explains why nobody uses it?
16:10 zash Calinou: No, but the marketing does! :)
16:11 raffahacks1 I am working on a 5" gameboy-like minetest-playing console with touchscreen :)
16:12 raffahacks1 With a cubieboard and some components i have at home
16:13 Calinou have fun playing Minetest at more than 15 FPS
16:13 raffahacks1 But how can i build a keyboard?
16:13 raffahacks1 15fps?
16:14 raffahacks1 It's better if i don't lose my time then :)
16:15 raffahacks1 Do you know any tips to obtain contributors for a project?
16:16 raffahacks1 Calinou: ^
16:19 Calinou 1) don't seek them
16:20 Calinou 2) repetitions of 1 with added emphasis
16:24 sol_invictus sfan5: thank you very much
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16:42 h4iku hi all
16:42 h4iku I've a simple question about the game
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16:44 Krock Ohai PPL
16:44 h4iku is anybody in there?
16:44 h4iku hi Krock
16:44 Krock I'm not here btw
16:44 Calinou h4iku, yes, ask!
16:45 Calinou there are about 110 people in this channel, but not all of them are here right now (some may be busy or sleeping)
16:45 Krock *114
16:45 h4iku Calinou: How I can obtain wool from sheeps?
16:45 Calinou right-click them
16:45 Calinou Krock, minus the bots
16:45 h4iku really?
16:45 Calinou yes, no need for shears
16:45 Calinou it works like that in Simple Mobs and my Mobs mod
16:46 Calinou (but in my Mobs mod, a sound plays when shearing :D)
16:46 h4iku ooh
16:46 h4iku very simple
16:46 h4iku I'll try
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16:46 Jordach evening BlockMen
16:46 h4iku is not possible to make shears?
16:47 BlockMen hi Jordach o/
16:47 Calinou no
16:48 h4iku ok... yeeaaah I've wool!!!!!!!! THANKS Calinou!! :D
16:49 Calinou no problem :)
16:49 Calinou you can make it regrow by giving wheat to sheep (right click)
16:49 Calinou sheep follow you if you hold wheat
16:49 h4iku Calinou: another question... can I make a bed with wool and wood?
16:49 Krock o/ BlockMen
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16:50 BlockMen Krock o/
16:51 BlockMen update to test, Krock (https://github.com/BlockMen/beds) ;)
16:51 Krock oh neat
16:52 Calinou h4iku, with the Beds mod, yes: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2625
16:52 Calinou trololo, Minecraft ripoff: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&t=9881
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16:53 h4iku Calinou: great, thanks!
16:54 BlockMen Calinou, its better than the mc beds
16:54 BlockMen but i guess you need you hater mode ;)
16:54 Calinou as bad as the MC beds…
16:54 Calinou but thanks for making night skip at 50 %
16:55 Calinou that improves them a lot
16:55 BlockMen so, what is "as bad as" in mc?
16:55 Calinou eg. the looks
16:55 Calinou looks like there's only 1 colour too
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16:55 Calinou PilzAdam's has several colours, that's a cool thing
16:55 Calinou many Minecraft players keep asking for that
16:56 BlockMen lol, so colors are more important than everything else?
16:56 BlockMen oh god ....
16:56 BlockMen you seem to be mc player ;)
16:56 Calinou lay animation poses a problem: you can't distinguish dead player from sleeping one :/
16:56 Calinou also, no ability to look around due to formspec
16:56 BlockMen false^
16:56 sfan5 Calinou: a sleeping player will be on a bedc
16:56 sfan5 .c
16:56 sfan5 -c
16:56 Calinou someone can die on a bed
16:57 BlockMen the he would fly "over" the bed
16:57 Calinou not necessarily
16:57 BlockMen and in most cases respawn soon
16:57 BlockMen Calinou, yes. there is no way that you can position yourself on bed by dying
16:58 Calinou /suicide
16:58 Calinou or just being killed on it by a player or a mob
16:58 BlockMen then its still the wrong pos
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16:58 Calinou any way, I may add /sit and /lay commands in Carbone, to sit (just for fun) and lay (play dead, but health bar will still be there, except if disabled by the server)
16:58 Calinou playing dead could add interesting PvP
16:59 * Jordach scribbles down for BFD
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17:54 Krock *selects "Bug me again in 24h"*
17:54 Krock *presses ask me again later*
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17:56 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:56 * sfan5 meows at Krock
17:57 * rubenwardy has successfully called a C++ function from Python!
17:57 * Krock memes at sfan5
17:57 * Krock gives rubenwardy "execute("cute.cat"); endcatline;"
17:58 rubenwardy As in, I have embedded python in C++   like how Minetest embeds Lua.
17:58 * Krock embedded lua in C#
17:59 rubenwardy Well don!
18:01 Krock thanx
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18:06 Calinou meh
18:06 Calinou what are you embedding it for?
18:06 Calinou for extensions, Lua is generally a smarter choice
18:07 * sfan5 embeds Calinou in MinetestBot
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18:15 rubenwardy I don't like Lua as a programming language. The class support in Javascript sucks.
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18:15 rubenwardy And Python is one of my favourite languages.
18:18 sfan5 Javascript is not made for OOP
18:18 sfan5 Python isn't the ideal language for OOP either
18:18 sfan5 but Python is nice
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18:22 Calinou Lua is very easy to learn and that's important for an extension language.
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18:28 Krock Calinou, but it destroys that zero-index-start standard
18:28 Calinou is it really a good standard? it's unlogical
18:29 Calinou the real issue is things like ~= instead of !
18:29 Calinou != is obvious, ~= isn't
18:29 Calinou but you eventually get used to it :)
18:29 puhfa um actually its pretty logical too
18:29 puhfa since ~ usually means binary not
18:30 sfan5 Calinou: people who don't know about programming dunno that ! means not
18:30 PenguinDad Krock: is this standard that important?
18:30 Krock Calinou, logical since bytes start with 0x00 (0) and end with 0xFF (255)
18:30 sfan5 it's just "logical" becuase it is usually like that
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18:30 Krock PenguinDad, possibly it's irritating for learning other programming languages
18:33 PenguinDad Other languages rarely have anything that behaves like tables in lua
18:34 Calinou ~= may be mistaken for “approximately”
18:34 Calinou while != clearly draws your attention
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18:42 sfan5 Calinou: <sfan5> it's just "logical" becuase it is usually like that
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18:57 Flipsels @Krock That bytes start with 0x00 (0) doesn't mean you have to start counting on zero?
18:57 Krock Flipsels, right but it's easier to take 0 instead of adding 1 each time
18:58 Flipsels Like when on preschool you're asked to count to ten: why not start with zero?
18:58 * Jordach 's battlestation https://mediacru.sh/848b5bc50742
18:58 Flipsels Yeah I know, but that is mostly based on the logical loops with counting indexes in it. Not because of the binairy system
18:59 sfan5 counting has nothing to do with the binary systzem
18:59 sfan5 -z
19:00 sfan5 people just happen to use 0 and 1
19:00 * Flipsels agree
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19:41 HomelessHedgehog Now I forgot how to join the server IRC
19:43 Jordach i do not remember how to access Kiwi's linkage features
19:43 BlockMen bye everyone
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19:45 HomelessHedgehog WHY DO I FORGET. *sigh*
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19:48 HomelessHedgehog Jordach do you know how to join #minetest with /server
19:48 Jordach i'm too tired for this shit
19:49 HomelessHedgehog I'll take that as a no
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19:59 CaIinou http://hexchat.github.io/ → download → install → run → create server entry in list → address isis.inchra.net → port 6667 → connect → type /join #minetest
20:00 sapier Animals Modpack 2.4.1 ... now faster then farming ;-P https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=629
20:00 CaIinou what about this?
20:00 Jordach CaIinou, /nick
20:01 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
20:01 Jordach wat
20:01 sfan5 you don't like meow?
20:02 Jordach you poked me for no reason
20:02 sfan5 :(
20:02 sfan5 sry
20:02 Jordach that's fine kitten :3
20:02 sfan5 meow :3
20:02 * Jordach strokes sfan5
20:02 * sfan5 purrs
20:03 sapier << leaves ... to much kittens
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20:04 sfan5 !op
20:04 sfan5 !deop
20:05 PenguinDad sapier doesn't like kittens it seems :(
20:12 CaIinou http://www.florian-diesch.de/software/gtkfalse/
20:12 CaIinou I've translated this software in 40 seconds
20:18 kahrl /bin/false --help
20:18 kahrl > Report false bugs to bug-coreutils@gnu.org
20:19 sfan5 :D
20:20 CaIinou false positives
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21:08 sapier I was joking ;-)
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21:12 * PenguinDad headdesks
21:12 sfan5 one does not simply joke about not liking kittens.
21:14 PenguinDad I wonder when I finally finish cloning the atom repo :/
21:14 * Sokomine hides from blockmen
21:14 Sokomine i just can't stand the texture of those beds :-( it's so...2d. while mt can do much more
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21:41 Jordach PenguinDad, Atoms are small, repos are not :)
21:42 PenguinDad Jordach: The atom I'm talking about isn't small ;)
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21:53 war-sloop hello minetest community !
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23:16 dumdidum there is one feature is miss in minetest.
23:20 dumdidum if i work with a chest, right now i have to drag and drop the items. it would be great, if it would be possible to press shift and then simply click on an item and it changes position from chest to inventory and accordingly the other way
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23:52 blaise faster than farming?
23:52 blaise was he talking about his mobf mod ?

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