Time Nick Message 00:00 MinetestForFun amazing ^^ 00:00 blaise !up midnightsystems.net 00:00 lemonlake_ MinetestForFun, not necessarily 00:00 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (1552ms) 00:00 lemonlake_ it's normal for a big server 00:00 * blaise does a little dance 00:00 lemonlake_ !server midnightsystems 00:00 MinetestBot lemonlake_: No results 00:00 lemonlake_ !server midnightsystems.net 00:00 MinetestBot lemonlake_: No results 00:00 lemonlake_ bender 00:00 lemonlake_ !server midnight 00:00 MinetestBot lemonlake_: No results 00:00 crazyR blaise how is it affecting performance 00:00 lemonlake_ blaise, what's the servername? 00:00 blaise it seems fine 00:00 blaise lemonlake_: midnightsystems 00:00 lemonlake_ >.< 00:01 blaise hehe 00:01 lemonlake_ is !server broken? 00:01 lemonlake_ !serve 00:01 lemonlake_ !server 00:01 MinetestBot lemonlake_: Minetestville | 108.94.133.186 | Clients: 5/40, 3/5 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 165ms 00:01 lemonlake_ ó.ó 00:01 blaise !server 00:01 MinetestBot blaise: Craig's Server | craigd.24tails.com | Clients: 3/30, 2/9 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / Craig-Server | Ping: 221ms 00:01 kaeza !server midnight 00:01 MinetestBot kaeza: No results 00:01 blaise wtf 00:01 crazyR !server Ethic Rush 00:01 MinetestBot crazyR: Ethic Rush | 23.226.237.191:31000 | Clients: 3/15, 4/12 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 98ms 00:01 kaeza !server Midnight 00:01 MinetestBot kaeza: No results 00:01 kaeza ... 00:01 lemonlake_ !server Midnight Systems minetest server 00:01 MinetestBot lemonlake_: No results 00:01 lemonlake_ that's weird 00:01 lemonlake_ maybe it doesn't show empty servers? 00:01 blaise that's not my server 00:02 WindHero ....dat urbandictionary page @_@ 00:02 WindHero not nearly that much profanity................ 00:02 lemonlake_ blaise, which server is yours? 00:03 blaise the one @ midnightsystems.net 00:03 lemonlake_ yeah, maybe !server doesn't show empty servers 00:03 lemonlake_ !help 00:03 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 00:03 blaise it may be called vaio 00:03 blaise as that's the host name of the machine 00:03 lemonlake_ it has an empty servername 00:03 blaise although, the domain is pointed at it 00:03 blaise so.. 00:03 * blaise shrugs 00:04 blaise really? 00:04 blaise maybe I should fix that 00:04 lemonlake_ blaise, its actually most likely because there's no servername 00:04 blaise lmao 00:04 lemonlake_ you probably should rofl 00:04 lemonlake_ !server Road 00:04 MinetestBot lemonlake_: Road | setun.net:30002 | Clients: 1/497, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10.3-free-dev / sky | Ping: 102ms 00:04 blaise how do I fix that, anyway? 00:04 lemonlake_ add a servername 00:05 blaise world.mt or minetest.conf? 00:05 lemonlake_ minetest.conf im fairly sure 00:05 lemonlake_ why would it be world.mt 00:06 * blaise shrugs 00:06 blaise lemonlake_: echo "server_name = midnightsystems" >> minetest.conf ? 00:07 lemonlake_ idk 00:07 Jordach playing BFD and found this beautiful segment https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5649LHQxauxd.png 00:07 lemonlake_ look it up 00:07 lemonlake_ i don't know minetest.conf 00:07 lemonlake_ >.< 00:08 WindHero !wiki minetest.conf 00:08 MinetestBot "minetest." - http://wiki.minetest.net/minetest.conf 00:08 blaise danke 00:08 blaise lemonlake_: do you not run/play minetest? 00:08 lemonlake_ blaise: no 00:09 blaise why are you here? 00:09 lemonlake_ because i make mods 00:09 lemonlake_ but i dont play the game 00:09 lemonlake_ server_name = My server 00:09 lemonlake_ (http://minetest.net/servers) 00:10 bas080 lemonlake, I still consider that playing with minetest. 00:10 lemonlake_ bas080, consider what you like 00:10 lemonlake_ the question however was 'play minetest' 00:10 lemonlake_ that i do not 00:10 lemonlake_ i do not play the game as a game, i just sometimes run it to test my mod 00:10 bas080 You are not just a user 00:17 blaise some ahole joined my server and demanded I speak to him in spanish 00:17 lemonlake_ then do that 00:17 blaise nah, I banned him 00:17 lemonlake_ what?? 00:17 lemonlake_ why? 00:17 blaise becuase he was demanding I speak spanish to him 00:18 blaise his demands were in engrish. 00:18 lemonlake_ that's not very fair 00:18 blaise you cant make demands on someone elses property in an outragious way, 00:19 blaise dude spent 5 minutes speaking to me in english trying to get me to speak spanish 00:19 blaise asking about skins 00:19 MinetestForFun very funny :D 00:19 blaise what about skins, anyway? 00:20 blaise can we skin our characters or something? 00:20 blaise and, isn't that something done on the client side? 00:20 khonkhortisan no hablo español 00:21 blaise khonkhortisan: no, your derpyness. 00:21 blaise khonkhortisan: but thank you for asking 00:21 khonkhortisan hehe I said that I didn't 00:22 blaise ich spreche deutsch 00:22 blaise and a little french.. 00:23 blaise but my spanlish is b0rked 00:24 WindHero Latinem scio. 00:25 WindHero :D 00:25 WindHero https://cdn.mediacru.sh/OamPE0KUUEKd.png 00:26 blaise !server MidnightSystems 00:26 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/25, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 830ms 00:27 lemonlake_ WindHero: cool 00:27 WindHero thanks 00:27 blaise :) 00:27 blaise 830ms?! 00:27 WindHero have another one coming soon 00:27 blaise SHIT! 00:28 lemonlake_ blaise: that's just mtb 00:28 lemonlake_ no big deal 00:28 WindHero Google Fiber or go home 00:28 WindHero jk 00:28 blaise I got 20Mbit up 5Mbit down cable 00:29 blaise should be fine 00:29 blaise and the server is wired, not wireless 00:29 lemonlake_ blaised: that's just mtb no big deal 00:29 blaise btb? 00:29 blaise mtb I mean? 00:29 lemonlake_ mine 00:29 lemonlake_ test 00:29 lemonlake_ bot 00:30 blaise VanessaE told me there was a cap on how fast the server would send media and textures and stuff to clients anyway 00:30 VanessaE I did? 00:30 blaise yeah, like 7 or so months ago 00:30 VanessaE not a cap 00:30 VanessaE more like a code limitation 00:30 blaise it caps out at like 5K/s 00:30 VanessaE that limit has since been fixed 00:30 blaise has it? 00:30 VanessaE yeah 00:31 blaise awesomesauce 00:31 VanessaE it can send data much faster than that now 00:31 VanessaE like a few megs a second now 00:31 blaise VanessaE: Hi! btw.. :) 00:31 VanessaE hi 00:31 lemonlake_ VanessaE: bye, btw 00:31 * blaise hugs VanessaE 00:31 lemonlake_ sleepy time now 00:31 blaise VanessaE: my son is 3 months old today.. 00:31 VanessaE cool 00:32 blaise anyone have the problem of people stealing their pony vaio laptops in their game? 00:32 blaise and how can this lemongrab character code mods without running the minetest server/client ? 00:33 blaise isn't that like beating a nail into wood without the wood, nail, or hammer ? 00:33 blaise VanessaE: btw, I disabled mobf on my sever and peoples are still timing out.. 00:33 blaise !up midnightsystems 00:33 MinetestBot blaise: Invalid Address 00:33 blaise !up midnightsystems.net 00:33 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (137ms) 00:34 blaise !server MidnightSystems 00:34 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/25, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 264ms 00:34 blaise does anyone else have problems? 00:34 WindHero and here's the other screenshot: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/nAYioNb98sbX.png 00:34 blaise beautiful 00:35 WindHero thanks 00:35 blaise WindHero: what is it? 00:35 blaise and what are you doing? 00:35 WindHero a lava fountain with a statue of a Dungeon Master in the center 00:35 WindHero for CaveRealms 00:35 blaise ah 00:35 blaise caverealms a mod? 00:35 Sokomine hm, i can check later on (mobf ought to be in my cache anyway; as most other mods are) 00:35 WindHero I'm almost ready to push a new commit 00:35 WindHero yeah 00:36 WindHero https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9522 00:36 blaise nice 00:36 blaise WindHero: can it be added to an existing server? 00:36 WindHero yes :D 00:36 blaise cool, so I don't have to regenerate themap? 00:36 WindHero they start appearing at -700 00:36 WindHero noep 00:37 WindHero *nope 00:37 blaise Sokomine: I removed mobf to try and eliminate lag but people are still timing out 00:37 WindHero but they won't appear in old sections 00:37 blaise Sokomine: so, I'm not so sure it was mobf' 00:37 blaise s fault 00:37 blaise know what I mean? 00:37 Sokomine blaise: if they join with those unofficial android clients, that might be no wonder even on a server that otherwise works fine 00:38 Sokomine mobf does add quite a lot of data. the necessary models are big and plentiful 00:38 blaise ah 00:38 blaise hey, what does this mean? {["choppy"] = 4, ["level"] = 4, ["fleshy"] = 4, ["snappy"] = 4} 00:39 khonkhortisan it's the weird names we give as properties to blocks/nodes 00:39 khonkhortisan how easy it is to break by hand or by a tool 00:39 blaise ah 00:40 blaise I'm like 50 stories underground and I'm hearing a cow 00:40 blaise wtf 00:40 blaise I wonder how long it will be before that boat mod crashes my server again 00:40 blaise :( 00:41 WindHero for schematic-placing nodes: description = "A Hack like you should know what this does...", 00:41 blaise that I apparently can't remove becuase it's integrated 00:41 WindHero xD 00:41 WindHero who said it can't be removed? 00:41 WindHero just delete the "boats" folder in "minetest-game" 00:42 blaise but what if I want boats? 00:43 WindHero Keep an eye on GitHub commits until it gets fixed :P 00:47 blaise some dude was asking about cars a few days ago 00:47 blaise had me wondering about htat 00:47 blaise s/htat/that/ 00:51 blaise 08:01:20: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ...mes/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/boats/init.lua:84: attempt to index field 'player_attached' (a nil value) 00:51 blaise 08:01:20: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: 00:51 blaise 08:01:20: ERROR[main]: ...mes/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/boats/init.lua:84: in function <...mes/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/boats/init.lua:79> 00:52 blaise interesting, no? 00:54 blaise I unbanned that MASTERCHIEFT character 00:56 WindHero I'd report that error to BlockMen 01:18 blaise WindHero: who's BlockMen ? 01:18 Exio4 core dev 01:18 blaise I'm curious about a postal system mod... 01:18 WindHero moderator on the forum, programmer for Minetest NeXt, a.k.a. minetest-game 01:19 blaise I need to get a working economy going on my server 01:20 blaise WindHero: are you involved or know anything about the android minetest port? 01:20 WindHero currency isn't a bad mod for that 01:21 WindHero I'm not currently involved with it, no 01:21 WindHero I've been intending to test it 01:21 WindHero but haven't yet 01:21 blaise someone gave me a link for a build.. 01:22 blaise it was pretty buggy.. but that was some 6 or 7 months ago I believe 01:22 blaise I believe it was ShadowNinja's android build 01:22 blaise I could be wrong 01:22 WindHero sapier's. 01:22 blaise ah 01:22 WindHero wait 01:22 WindHero 6 or 7 months ago? 01:22 blaise feels like it 01:22 ShadowNinja I don't make Android builds. 01:23 blaise it was before my son was born, I know that 01:23 WindHero I didn't even know they were making builds for it that long ago 01:23 blaise ShadowNinja: lmao 01:23 Exio4 doesn't matter, still your fault ShadowNinja !! :p 01:23 blaise ShadowNinja: thanks for the clarity 01:23 WindHero blaise: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=9389 01:23 WindHero try those 01:23 blaise AhHAH! 01:23 blaise danke 01:45 blaise https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.4.10 01:45 blaise Woot! 01:45 blaise :D 01:45 VanessaE you're a bit out of date ;P 01:45 VanessaE 0.4.10 has been out for a few weeks now :) 01:46 blaise yeah 01:46 blaise I was using a very old Minetest-debug.apk 01:46 Exio4 latest build has android fixes too 01:46 Exio4 latest git 01:46 blaise I got my server updated the day the new version came out though 01:47 blaise Exio4: yeah, I dunno if I can remember how to build an apk with the adk though 01:47 blaise I have it, just havn't messed with it in a long time 01:47 Exio4 i thought you were going to build a build 01:48 blaise I was just wanting to check out the android progress 01:49 crazyR anyone know what might cause bucket:bucket_water to not show up in the registered_nodes table. the node is definatly registered 01:50 Exio4 it isn't a node? 01:51 Exio4 but an item? 02:02 crazyR oh 02:03 crazyR that could be an issue, is there a table for items? like the one for nodes? 02:04 Exio4 register_items? i don't know ;P 02:05 Exio4 registered* 02:06 crazyR thanks, think i got it 02:06 RealBadAngel yes there is 02:06 MinetestBot RealBadAngel: 08-06 00:37 UTC https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kvHURgQh9NHh.png 02:07 crazyR minetest.registered_items[itemname] 02:09 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/blob/master/api.lua#L16 02:09 RealBadAngel sample code that reads it 02:11 RealBadAngel actually pretty weird one but loop definition shall do for you 02:12 RealBadAngel if ure not sure what def holds just add there print(dump(def)) 04:48 blaise hrmm 04:49 blaise I can't get sfan5's android build to connect to a server.. "single player" works though 04:50 blaise although quite a bit of errors fly by on the screen constantly 04:52 blaise oh wait 04:52 blaise I got it working 04:52 blaise lmao 04:53 blaise ah, much smother than local play 04:56 blaise sup 07:29 Matsetes Hi! 07:29 jp__ Hi. 07:29 Matsetes Which is the channel for minetest-technic? 07:31 Krock ##minetest-technic ? 07:31 Krock ah, just one hashtag 07:36 nman3600 Hi, I've been a bit obsessed with minecraft lately 07:36 Krock unpossible 07:37 nman3600 I bought it yesterday., 07:39 Krock 07:40 Nerotic It's been awhile. 07:52 Nate__ does anyone have the old versoin of the irc mod 07:52 Nerotic no 08:17 Krock damn 08:17 Krock just wanted to be 1st who reports that post... "The post you requested does not exist." after I sent it 08:17 Krock :( 08:21 Nate__ Ca anyone help me with this error 08:21 Nate__ http://pastie.org/private/f1km821oso4819785sta 08:23 Miner_48er Nate what version of irc? 08:23 Nate__ The new versoin 08:23 Krock remove creative from your mods folder 08:23 Nate__ Krock: ignore that 08:23 PenguinDad You ate an apple in nethack :P 08:24 * Krock can't help with the IRC mod 08:24 Nate__ PenguinDad: I will start changing my passwords now 08:25 PenguinDad Why? 08:25 Nate__ 3:23 AM You ate an apple in nethack :P 08:26 PenguinDad Nethack ~= Hacking computers 08:27 Nate__ Shoot 08:32 Miner_48er Nate is that the latest version of luasocket? 08:32 Eater4 Yes 08:46 Eater4 Try accessing the paste now PenguinDad 09:03 skittle_ hello 09:03 skittle_ OIHDJFSIOFJS 09:27 Calinou avatar redone is probably done 09:28 Calinou biggest size only 248 bytes! 09:28 Calinou smallest 167 bytes 09:29 PenguinDad looks like a crosshair :D 09:31 Calinou yes, but much lighter, easy to indentify 09:31 Calinou works on dark + bright background well 09:31 Calinou so it does its job 09:31 Calinou identify* 09:33 Krock Calinou, what does it symbolize? 09:37 Calinou you choose 09:54 Calinou I wonder if I can upload the binaries I compile for use by other Ubuntu/Mint users on the forum 09:54 Calinou does that work? 09:55 ThatGraemeGuy Calinou: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA 10:27 jp__ RealBadAngel : water reflection functions can be accentuated & used for the mirrors ? Same technical principle ? 10:27 Calinou ThatGraemeGuy, we already have daily PPA, I think 10:31 ThatGraemeGuy Calinou: true 10:32 ThatGraemeGuy but the answer to the question "how do i make packages available to Ubuntu users" is "Create a PPA" :-) 10:32 ThatGraemeGuy it sounded like you wanted something of your own ("the binaries I compile") separate from the official PPAs 10:34 PenguinDad Calinou's binaries are special because they have 20% more ponies :D 10:35 Calinou ThatGraemeGuy, but I could just ship .zip files 10:35 Calinou no need for admin rights, if you already have dependencies 10:35 Calinou easy to update (no need for admin rights there too)) 10:35 Calinou could be portable (RUN_IN_PLACE) 10:35 Calinou PenguinDad, 20 % more Carbone :p 10:35 ThatGraemeGuy mmmmm ponies are delicious 10:35 Calinou (would ship Carbone by default, in addition to minetest_game) 10:36 ThatGraemeGuy Calinou: ah, did not realise you meant RUN_IN_PLACE builds. yes, zip or tarball would be dead simple 10:36 Megaf Hi everyone, how are things? 10:37 Calinou ThatGraemeGuy, I guess I'll make RUN_IN_PLACE builds, so that people can put it on their USB drives 10:38 Calinou and for testing 10:38 Calinou hi Megaf :) fine 10:38 Megaf Good 10:39 Megaf I’m here trying to figure out a way to see my desktop power usage, I mean, watts or amps. Using some kind of software 10:41 Calinou Megaf, generally, it's impossible to know exactly, but you can “predict” based on your usage 10:41 Calinou what's your CPU and graphics card? 10:42 Calinou how many hard drives do you have? 10:42 Calinou (probably 1, but I'd like to make sure) 10:43 Megaf Calinou: It’s an AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE (4 cores, 3,2 GHz). But I disabled 3 cores and set it to powersave, also, system is idle most of the time, and no X running, the VGA it’s an onboard AMD HD 4200 using the opensource drivers. 10:43 Megaf and two disks 10:44 Megaf so, I expect a consumption of about 90 watts at most 10:44 Calinou why disable 3 cores? :o 10:44 Calinou keep at least 2 cores active, else everything will be slow 10:44 Calinou Megaf, is the screen LCD, LCD LED or CRT? 10:45 Calinou LCD will use 40-50 W, a CRT wil use 70 W, a LCD LED 20-30 W, depending on size. 10:45 Calinou an HDD uses 10 W at most at full load, 3 to 4 W at idle 10:45 Megaf Calinou: this computer is in use only as a ssh server, so I can access other computers on the network 10:45 Megaf there’s no screen on 10:45 Megaf it’s really idle 99% of the time 10:45 Calinou but remember, if you want to know how much electricity you'll pay for, you'll need to calculate the power used by the PSU, not by the parts 10:46 Calinou no PSU has 100 % efficiency, so you need to know your PSU's efficiency for that 10:46 Krock Megaf, set up Apache HTTPd and you'll get some load 10:46 Calinou (no-name PSUs are at about 75 %) 10:46 Calinou Megaf, why do you have a separate computer for use with SSH? I don't get it 10:47 Megaf Calinou: mine is a 80+, I believe is around 85% of efficiency 10:47 Megaf maybe more with little load 10:47 Calinou why don't you use another PC as a client? 10:47 Megaf because my adsl router is not working, the NAT setup page will never load and the router will actually freeze for a couple of seconds while loading the NAT port forward page 10:48 Megaf One thing I’m thinking of is creating a virtual NIC on the server I actually want o access and assign that IP to the virtual NIC 10:53 Megaf Calinou: and I’m 6,309 mi away from my computer 10:54 Megaf That’s 10153.4 km in real numbers 10:55 Calinou you mean 10,153 km? 10:55 PenguinDad Megaf: and in surreal numbers? 10:56 Calinou Megaf, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_PLUS for PSU efficiency 10:56 Calinou there's a table 10:56 twoelk Krock: your mt-mappreview seems to not allow seeds larger than 2147483646 10:56 Krock twoelk, I know, there was a problem with calculating those Int32 numbers 10:57 Calinou Megaf, you can expect 130 W on PSU at full load, 50 W at idle? 10:57 twoelk VEC for example uses 5456417845860793769 10:58 Krock what's VEC? 10:58 twoelk but anyways I compared seed=1000 and it looks very different (VE-creativeserver) 10:58 PenguinDad Krock: VECtor maybe :P 10:59 Krock PenguinDad, hmm I think it's not vector 10:59 twoelk Vanessa has some maps online to compare 10:59 Krock twoelk, no wonder. that preview mapper uses my yappy "codes" 10:59 twoelk ah 10:59 Guy09 Hi Krock long time no see 10:59 Krock Guy09, never saw you actually. 11:00 twoelk so have to generate a yappy map to compare ok 11:00 Guy09 ? 11:00 Krock twoelk, it uses the codes from minetest noise.cpp but a compatibility is not expected 11:01 twoelk :-( 11:01 twoelk hopefully as in "not yet" 11:02 Krock twoelk, why? do you want to explore maps before they actually have been generated? 11:02 twoelk yeah 11:03 twoelk to study mapgen noise for example 11:03 twoelk scale 0.01 is pretty revealing for example 11:05 Krock minetest's noise has much salt in it 11:05 twoelk ah, so thats what the white stuff is 11:05 * PenguinDad hands Krock some pepper 11:06 Krock :) 11:07 twoelk But indeed I do think there could be quite some uses for a seed preview 12:09 Jordach i spy a PenguinDad joining VE-Vanilla 12:09 * PenguinDad meows at Jordach 12:21 * Jordach has noticed an alarming statistic with Minetest Public Servers 12:22 Jordach There are more females than males playing Minetest 12:22 Krock ^ 12:23 Jordach i'm probably going to work this out 12:23 Krock There are more mobile phone players than PC 12:23 Megaf_ That's true. And I don't see any problem with that. 12:24 Jordach at some point i'll reclone VE's skin lib and then total up the genderness of skins, and attribute those to Mobile or PC users 12:24 PenguinDad Maybe Minetest isn't an FPS by default :D 12:24 PenguinDad + because 12:24 Jordach i have the feeling most females feel out of place within MC 12:25 Jordach i don't know any female players bar LemonLake 12:25 Megaf_ I like minetest just the way it is. It only could have a built in thing for skins. 12:25 Krock nevaaah 12:26 Megaf_ People ask for skins a lot on my server 12:26 reactor Is it me or player attack animation looks annoying? 12:26 Jordach reactor, it uses the punch anim 12:26 Krock just get u_skins and unified_inventory, problem solved 12:26 reactor Exactly that punch animation. 12:26 Krock the animations are boring, only right hand is used 12:26 Megaf_ Hi asie 12:27 reactor It doesn't look like punching. 12:27 Megaf_ So make a better one krock 12:27 Jordach and last night some whining 12 year old that got banned decided to basically shout and get really annoying 12:27 Krock Megaf_, hiw? 12:28 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 12:28 asie hi 12:28 Krock Jordach, IP ban helps 12:28 Jordach Krock, [23:04:19] trying to shut some whining kid up 12:28 Jordach [23:10:49] that little shit is going down even if it costs me my admin level privs 12:28 reactor Jordach: is it me or that tends to happen a lot? 12:28 Krock lol 12:28 Jordach reactor, often enough 12:29 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 12:29 Jordach ecutruin, last night i found this while playing on the BFD server https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5649LHQxauxd.png 12:30 reactor It seems like... everyone is compulsive to to 2 things: 12:30 ecutruin Neat 12:30 reactor 1. Punch everyone the first time they see them. 12:30 Jordach i rarely find nice spots 12:30 Krock Jordach, hmm? BFD server? 12:30 reactor 2. If they notice someone is an administrator, they start asking for help or privs. 12:30 Jordach Krock, jordach.minetest.net : 30000 (VM hosted) 12:30 Krock oke 12:30 Jordach i can actually ignore it now without leaving my client open 12:31 sfan5 !up jordach.minetest.net 12:31 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (533ms) 12:31 Jordach and connecting doesn't take a fucking year any more 12:32 Krock 1st connect always takes years 12:32 Jordach Krock, Vanessa provided her media space for BFD 12:32 Krock Jordach, ah, nice 12:32 sfan5 Jordach: that doesn't help if your internet is slow.. 12:33 PenguinDad Jordach: does it have a index.mth? 12:33 Jordach PenguinDad, VE possibly manually generated it 12:33 sfan5 Jordach: make sure index.mth is there 12:34 Jordach why? 12:34 sfan5 makes stuff even faster 12:34 Krock Jordach, those snowy tree leaves do not drop themselves when dug 12:34 Jordach Krock, can't drop leaves when there is multiple items 12:34 Krock ehm.. you can 12:34 Jordach Krock, >2 = leaves dropping leaves 12:35 Krock ah. got a sapling from them 12:35 sfan5 Jordach: but it needs to respond at POSTs 12:35 sfan5 (much complicated) 12:35 Krock evergreen tree.. 12:35 PenguinDad Jordach: "14:34:05: ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: http://minetest.digitalaudioconcepts.com/bfdmedia/address = 0.0.0.0index.mth not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404)" 12:35 sfan5 lol 12:35 sfan5 someone forgot an \n 12:36 sfan5 VanessaE: you don't need address = 0.0.0.0 in the config 12:36 reactor PenguinDad: mth 12:36 Jordach !title http://minetest.digitalaudioconcepts.com/bfdmedia/index.mth 12:36 MinetestBot HTTP error 404 12:36 reactor !title http://minetest.digitalaudioconcepts.com/bfdmedia/index.htm 12:36 MinetestBot HTTP error 404 12:36 reactor <_< 12:36 Krock lol 12:36 Jordach why do we even need random and useless file formats 12:36 Krock ".htm" 12:37 sfan5 Jordach: it's not useless 12:37 PenguinDad > useless 12:37 reactor The name is confusing. 12:37 sfan5 it's just a collection of hashes 12:37 reactor And leads one to assume it's a typo of '.htm'. 12:37 Krock MineTest Header? 12:37 sfan5 MineTest hash table 12:37 Krock MTHT 12:37 reactor mht? 12:37 sfan5 s/hash/Hash/ 12:37 sfan5 only the uppercase chars 12:37 sfan5 MineTest Hash table -> MTH 12:38 sfan5 (that was probably it) 12:38 reactor .bin 12:38 reactor But no, we keep spawning extensions. 12:38 sfan5 uh 12:38 sfan5 .bin is too generic 12:39 Jordach .mts, .mth, .we, 12:39 PenguinDad .bin == Bread Is Neat 12:39 Jordach i can go on 12:39 reactor .we could be .txt 12:39 sfan5 but index.mth could've been index.txt and text instead of binary stuff 12:39 sfan5 reactor: why? 12:39 sfan5 .txt is text 12:39 reactor .we _is_ text 12:39 sfan5 a world edit schematic may be text 12:39 sfan5 but it is not to be used like .txt files 12:39 sfan5 you don't need to edit it 12:39 reactor And you can specify the actual format in magics. 12:39 * Jordach pauses music and makes some coffee 12:41 sfan5 .mts makes perfect sense 12:41 sfan5 it's a special file format that is not .txt 12:41 sfan5 regarding the .bin argument: why is .zip not .bin? why is .jpg not .bin? why is .png not .bin? 12:42 reactor Exactly. 12:42 reactor I would even object the use of .tar.bz2, .tar.gz 12:42 reactor Why? 12:42 reactor Can't TAR already determine what it's compressed with? 12:43 sfan5 yes 12:44 reactor If everyone uses arbitrary extension for their format, we run out of short extensions and they become as long as filenames. 12:45 reactor file.heylookatmybrandnewextensionmuhahahaha 12:45 sfan5 if you just want to make distinction between .txt and .bin you might aswell not use any extensions 12:45 reactor Good point. 12:45 reactor I would. 12:45 sfan5 how about house.schematic? 12:45 sfan5 what MCEdit uses 12:46 Krock >.schematic 12:47 Krock doesn't follow the good old' 7.3 names :( 12:47 sfan5 lol 12:47 sfan5 who cares about dos? 12:47 Krock well, I don't but it's just that little thing which is left 12:47 reactor sfan5: that doesn't mean we should make them as long as possible. 12:48 reactor You eventually get tired of typing. 12:48 Krock ^that too 12:48 sfan5 theres tab-completion 12:48 PenguinDad Krock: ddos is better than dos :P 12:48 sfan5 and I did not say that you should make them long 12:48 Jordach Krock, 8+3 names actually ;3 12:48 reactor Okay good luck tab-completing when you have a directory with 1000 of those. 12:48 Krock PenguinDad, if, then DDoS 12:48 Jordach +1 12:49 Krock case sensitive. 12:49 reactor .schematic .schematia .schemtib .schematid .schematietcetera 12:49 Krock .schematibacteria 12:49 * sfan5 meows at reactor 12:49 reactor Just so that you can not tabcomplete efficiently. 12:50 * reactor spawns a dog next to sfan5 12:50 * sfan5 eats it 12:50 * GhostDoge barks at reactor 12:50 * reactor noclips through the ground 12:51 Jordach Krock, the texture is a misspelling 12:51 reactor "forniture" 12:51 Krock Jordach, yeah. 12:51 Jordach Krock, it hasn't made a visual error for me to get annoyed with 12:51 reactor That is like, naughty furniture? 12:52 Krock come come? 12:52 Krock *how come :3 13:11 LemonLake toradora was really cool 13:12 sfan5 LemonLake: are you doing anything productive these days? 13:12 LemonLake sfan5: no 13:12 sfan5 :D 13:12 LemonLake ive lost the ability to be useful 13:12 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake 13:12 * Jordach has been here for nearly 3 years 13:12 LemonLake which reminds me... 13:13 LemonLake i haven't slept since monday 13:14 * GhostDoge hands LemonLake a pillow 13:15 LemonLake GhostDoge: wouldn't help 13:15 LemonLake for some reason i haven't been able to sleep lately 13:15 Jordach TIL it's more efficient to create steel dighammers then pickaxes 13:15 sfan5 >dighammers 13:15 Jordach 3x3 area dug and costs twice the amount compared to a pickaxe 13:15 sfan5 bfd is so unique 13:15 sfan5 why don't you release it already 13:16 Jordach sfan5, because there is so much shit missing 13:16 Jordach did you not read the goddamn todo list? 13:16 sfan5 then add that shit 13:16 sfan5 ;) 13:16 sfan5 no 13:17 GhostDoge Jordach: it's not too hard to draw and code shit :P 13:17 Jordach BFD will become larger than Dreambuilder 13:17 sfan5 Jordach: but it will be not just a collection of mods? 13:17 Jordach sfan5, heavily modified mods 13:17 sfan5 no 13:17 sfan5 I mean 13:18 sfan5 are the mods integrated with eachother? 13:18 VanessaE hey, be nice. I'm working toward making each mod in dreambuilder cross-depend on the others 13:18 Jordach sfan5, rather than having each mod define their own metals - the BFD core mods, mapgen, tools, deco, are the ones the mods should pull from 13:18 VanessaE (but without making them inoperable individually) 13:19 Jordach (in fact, you can remove everything but those three mods and BFD will still run - minus any good content) 13:19 Jordach in fact Factory is on my list to intergrate 13:20 GhostDoge !c 5000/3700 == 16/9 13:20 MinetestBot False 13:20 GhostDoge :( 13:20 Jordach sfan5, you can already test it from Git 13:20 Jordach i actually need help on what needs tweaking 13:21 sfan5 >downloading from git 13:21 sfan5 >2G connecton 13:21 sfan5 connection* 13:21 Jordach >30mb 13:21 sfan5 >5 KB/s 13:22 sfan5 !c 30 * 1024 / 5 / 60 13:22 MinetestBot 102.4 13:22 sfan5 102 minutes 13:22 sfan5 or something like tht 13:23 * Jordach thinks Jordach is the only person who has used MGV7 to it's near full extent 13:25 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 13:27 Jordach sfan5, i remodified gs_tools so that it works better 13:29 sfan5 Jordach: where is the bfd repo? 13:30 Jordach my githug 13:30 sfan5 'githug' 13:30 sfan5 <3 13:30 * sfan5 githugs Jordach 13:31 Jordach and just because the content is unique; doesn't mean the starting out is; i made it look like MTG / Dreambuilder so people know exactly what to do 13:31 Jordach dauym dighammers are way faster than steel picks 13:32 Jordach went down like ~80m in the fastest time ever :P 13:32 sfan5 Jordach: link please? 13:32 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/ 13:32 Jordach s/freaking/fucking/ btw ;3 13:33 Jordach !tell WindHero might have to steal your DM Temple schem, might make for some fun in BFD 13:33 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when WindHero is around 13:38 Jordach \o/ 13:38 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PQ0U82lGMoet.png 13:38 crazyR anyone know what the inventry is for on the pipework filters? does it actually do anything? 13:39 Krock ^ nothing 13:39 VanessaE crazyR: that's how you tell the filter just what items it should pass. 13:39 crazyR ohhh i never knew about that. thats kool 13:39 VanessaE crazyR: an item placed in the filter's inventory = this item is allowed through, everything else is denied. 13:39 Jordach when connected to other pipes 13:39 Jordach a sorting pipe 13:39 VanessaE Jordach: no, a chest 13:39 GhostDoge filters are ĸewl 13:39 VanessaE it's used to decide what to draw out of a chest specifically 13:40 VanessaE (or a furnace, etc) 13:40 crazyR ive always used sorting pipes to do that, but thats awsome saves messing about with loops 13:40 sfan5 Jordach: >customised thumbnail how? 13:41 Jordach sfan5, verified account ;34 13:41 Jordach sfan5, btw, there's hidden jokes within BFD# 13:42 sfan5 Jordach: >verified account how? 13:42 Jordach at random when a evergreen tree sapling grows, you might end with a different resul;t 13:42 Jordach sfan5, use your phone number 13:42 sfan5 Jordach: hidden jokes.. thats something one might expect from you ;) 13:42 Jordach sfan5, and by killing the mob that spawns, you might get an air sword 13:42 sfan5 ooooh 13:42 sfan5 :O :O :O 13:43 Jordach which has 100000000000 damage output 13:43 Krock 21 would be enough 13:43 Jordach Krock, Dungeon Masters absorb ~80% of all damage 13:43 crazyR has there been any debate about users having to use there email to register on a server. ie has anyone suggested that it be added to the client? 13:43 Jordach and have 60hp 13:43 Krock uuh 13:43 Krock crazyR, redcrab did that somehow 13:44 sfan5 Krock: that was done using a (probably php) website 13:45 VanessaE sfan5: and a chatcommand 13:45 Krock ^ 13:45 VanessaE /setemail or some such 13:45 Jordach for fuck sakes 13:45 Jordach *** Error in `./minetestserver': malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x00007fc418000e4f *** 13:46 crazyR what i meant was for default functionality. has anyone suggested it to be a default feature in minetes. where as the login page will have an email feild above the username feild, and if you havent been on the server before your required to enter it. just a thoug. it would be usefull for a few reasons, 1) automatic password reset? 13:46 crazyR slowing down duplicate accounts 13:46 sfan5 crazyR: nobody has suggeted that yet 13:46 crazyR is it something worth considering? 13:46 * twoelk notices he might have to update his installed version of BFD 13:46 Jordach these mem corruptions only occur in a VM with IRC 13:47 sfan5 Jordach: only with IRC? 13:47 Jordach sfan5, yes 13:47 sfan5 tried using gdb? 13:47 Jordach never once happened under windwos 13:47 Jordach sfan5, fuck that 13:47 Krock turn off IRC and run that thingie on your PC without VM 13:47 * Jordach noticed this also occurs with quite a few entities around 13:48 sfan5 Jordach: that doesn't mean windows is better; might be that windows just doesn't detect these or has a different memory layout which prevents these from happening 13:48 sfan5 47M big_freaking_dig.tar.xz 13:48 sfan5 :( 13:48 Jordach sfan5, i noticed it with too mny items on the floor 13:48 sfan5 looks like I won't be downloading bfd 13:48 * Krock never had any memory corruption error 13:48 Jordach sorry krock, had to clearobjects 13:48 Krock yes, I saw 13:48 Krock seems lit it takes some moments 13:49 Krock *like 13:49 VanessaE 47 MB for BFD? 13:49 VanessaE jeez. I think you just exceeded Dreambuilder by a couple MB 13:50 Jordach VanessaE, most of isnt actually the jukebox 13:51 Jordach zipball downloads don't have the fucking massive history 13:51 sfan5 Jordach: it would take me 2 hours to download bfs 13:51 sfan5 bfd* 13:51 sfan5 1% [ ] 791.520 5,07KB/s ETA 2h 8m 13:52 VanessaE dreambuilder is only 19MB as a tar.bz2 13:52 VanessaE 46 MB uncompressed 13:52 VanessaE (without the git history) 13:53 Jordach 66.1mb on disk, 60.1 on disk 13:53 Jordach and that halves when you remove the mobmodels and nodeboxmodels folders 13:54 Jordach mods weigh in at 25.2mb 13:55 LemonLake Jordach: why are you models so big? 13:55 Jordach LemonLake, blender models 13:55 sfan5 24M big_freaking_dig.tar.xz 13:55 sfan5 removed the .git history 13:55 LemonLake Jordach: you don't need to include the .blend, ya know 13:55 sfan5 Jordach: tell me what I can remove 13:56 Jordach sfan5, mobmodels and nodeboxmodels 13:57 Jordach sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/NR9KPWbp1AOq.png 13:57 Nerotic lol 13:57 sfan5 >image 13:57 Jordach sowwy 13:57 sfan5 pls 13:57 LemonLake Jordach: why do you need an image to show that? 13:57 * sfan5 wgets 13:57 Jordach LemonLake, because i can't be bothered 13:57 LemonLake and weren't you on windows 8 before? 13:57 Jordach http://youtu.be/On-G909RBpQ 13:57 * VanessaE pounces on kaeza 13:57 Jordach LemonLake, i was 13:58 Nerotic windows 8 .< 14:02 Jordach sfan5, see tanks and jukeboxes 14:02 sfan5 but you could do that when releasing a version of bfd 14:03 Jordach sfan5, big list of todo http://paste.debian.net/plain/112952 14:04 * sfan5 loads 14:04 Jordach it's plaintext without html 14:04 Jordach so it's faster :) 14:05 LemonLake oh wow, prison architect alpha 23 14:05 LemonLake completely forgot 14:05 sfan5 >youtuber nick name prebanned, with the message. Please use your own username, not a youtubers. 14:05 twoelk how do yo "male" a farm? 14:05 sfan5 lol 14:06 Jordach sfan5, the impersonator count on the public servers is too damn high 14:06 sfan5 yes 14:06 LemonLake 'tis a shame i don't have my old prisons 14:06 * Jordach doesn't drop the soap 14:06 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 14:07 twoelk Jordach: todo list first item 8) last line male=>make 14:08 Krock lol 14:08 Jordach iPod Touch typing sucks (although 80wpm on the iPad is fucking amazing) 14:09 sfan5 Jordach: >player_PilzAdam.png 14:09 sfan5 u serious? 14:09 Jordach sfan5, i sometimes clone VanessaE's skin lib 14:09 Krock sfan5, y u no make MT lets plays? 14:09 LemonLake ^ 14:09 sfan5 Krock: because meow 14:09 Krock meow! 14:09 sfan5 Krock: there is already meldrian 14:10 Jordach if i tried you'd hear the windows notification noise too much 14:10 sfan5 Jordach: why don't you make bfd lets plays? 14:10 Krock there's never enough¨! 14:10 LemonLake there's enough minecraft letsplays, thats for fuckin sure 14:10 Jordach sfan5, when i start preparing for the 1.0 i'll start making external content 14:10 Krock more video = more chance for players 14:10 Jordach eg, wiki, pdf based instructions, videos demonstratinfg 14:11 sfan5 >Output file size = 739 bytes (782 bytes = 51.41% decrease) 14:11 sfan5 Jordach: y u not optimize? 14:12 Jordach sfan5, i'm a lazy bastard 14:12 Jordach and B) that stuff isn't in my domain 14:12 sfan5 don't be one 14:12 LemonLake ^ 14:12 Jordach sfan5, i hate having to do extra steps just for one person 14:13 sfan5 >one person 14:13 sfan5 yes 14:13 sfan5 because disk space is free 14:13 sfan5 hint: it isn't 14:13 Jordach sfan5, it basically is with cloud storage ;3 14:13 Jordach $ per GB is like nothing now 14:14 sfan5 >counting in dollar 14:14 sfan5 are you not in the UK? 14:14 Jordach i am yes 14:14 Jordach most people use $ per GB 14:14 LemonLake Jordach: proof pls 14:15 Jordach and the German player count is too damn high ;3 14:15 Jordach s/player/developer/ 14:16 sfan5 Jordach: does that mean you don't like german developers? 14:16 Jordach no 14:16 Jordach sfan5, i just happen to take metrics now and then 14:16 sfan5 what about female developer count? 14:16 Jordach sfan5, very few 14:17 sfan5 very few = ? 14:17 Jordach ~3 14:18 sfan5 only 3? 14:18 Jordach darkrose, VE, and someone else i remember doing something] 14:19 LemonLake you done like sfan? 14:19 VanessaE Sokomine. 14:19 Jordach there we go 14:20 LemonLake oh female developer 14:20 LemonLake got chat goes fast when you aint lookin you get behind 14:21 VanessaE cg72 might count, depending on your threshold for "developer" 14:21 * Jordach referrs to the more active developers 14:22 sfan5 refers* 14:22 sfan5 >Error: failed to minify. Make sure the Lua code is valid. 14:22 sfan5 damnit luamin 14:23 Jordach sfan5, don't fuck with my code 14:23 Jordach pls 14:23 Jordach in warned you it's hard to compress ;3 14:23 sfan5 oh 14:23 sfan5 I tried to run luamin on the pngs 14:23 Jordach n00b 14:23 GhostDoge lol 14:24 sfan5 local a=0;local b={{"Red Bed","red"},{"Orange Bed","orange"},{"Yellow Bed","yellow"},{"Green Bed","green"},{"Blue Bed","blue"},{"Violet Bed","violet"},{"Black Bed","black"},{"Grey Bed","grey"},{"White Bed","white"}}for c in ipairs(b)do local d=b[c][1]local e=b[c][2]minetest.register_node("beds:bed_bottom_"..e,{description=d,drawtype="nodebox",tiles={"beds_bed_top_bottom_"..e..".png","deco_wood_oak_planks.png","beds_bed_side_"..e..".png","beds_bed_side_ 14:24 sfan5 "..e..".png","beds_bed_side_"..e..".png","beds_bed_side_"..e..".png"},paramtype="light",paramtype2="facedir",stack_max=1,groups={snappy=1,choppy=2 14:24 sfan5 /\ what it does to the beds mod 14:24 sfan5 (not everything ofc) 14:24 Jordach da fack am i reading 14:24 sfan5 lua 14:25 GhostDoge I don't have to read this code do I? D: 14:27 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/113960/ 14:27 twoelk Jordach: you might need to edit the readme.md "... then move the folder big_funking_dig into the games folder ..." 14:27 Jordach twoelk, more busy with code than instructions, and playtesting 14:28 twoelk yet installing should not go wrong 14:28 crazyR can someone have a look at this formspec and tell me if you can spot what might be casuing it to fail: https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/46fa85c46b5a31ebae2a 14:28 crazyR Ive put the errors in the comments 14:29 sfan5 >Failed to minify big_freaking_dig/mods/tools/custom_tools.lua 14:29 sfan5 nooo 14:29 Jordach sfan5, broken anyways 14:30 Jordach it's unused 14:30 Jordach (will probably do it legit when 1.0 comes about) 14:30 sfan5 Jordach: can I just rm it? 14:30 Jordach yes 14:31 sfan5 big_freaking_dig/mods/signs_lib/init.lua 14:31 sfan5 o.O 14:31 sfan5 Failed to minify big_freaking_dig/mods/signs_lib/init.lua, I mean 14:32 Jordach sfan5, don't do dis 14:32 GhostDoge yay! signs_lib's is not minifyable 14:32 sfan5 Jordach: y not 14:32 crazyR anyone? 14:32 * twoelk notices his last version of BFD is from May 14:34 twoelk oooh, pink trees, my niece will be happy 14:34 Jordach twoelk, Cherries ;3 14:34 sfan5 lol 14:35 twoelk hm, eatable? 14:35 sfan5 Jordach: do you have player_sfan5.png too? 14:35 Jordach sfan5, noep 14:35 sfan5 22M big_freaking_dig.tar.xz 14:36 sfan5 :( 14:36 GhostDoge <3 https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/player_textures/textures/player_PenguinDad.png 14:36 sfan5 it didn't get much smaller 14:36 * sfan5 licks GhostDoge 14:36 twoelk is cherryblossomleaves usefull for anything? 14:36 Jordach twoelk, decoration 14:37 sfan5 o wait 14:37 sfan5 I kept the .bak files 14:38 twoelk a sandmonster inspects my cherryblossomleaves pillar, seems unimpressed 14:39 sfan5 22M big_freaking_dig.tar.xz 14:39 sfan5 damn 14:39 Jordach sfan5, the two blender stuff will get stripped eventually 14:39 sfan5 it's not getting smaller 14:40 Jordach sfan5, you won't 14:40 sfan5 I could 14:40 sfan5 combining all pngs would help compressability 14:40 sfan5 I could write a program for that 14:40 sfan5 but nah 14:40 crazyR guys i know you are all really busy etc, but can i spare 2 minutes of your time to have a quick glance at this formspec and see if you can see where the error might be please: 14:40 crazyR https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/46fa85c46b5a31ebae2a 14:40 sfan5 it will still take 1 hour to download bfd 14:43 LemonLake crazyR, is this a player inventory formspec? 14:43 LemonLake or a formspec for a node? 14:43 crazyR for a node 14:43 crazyR well both 14:43 LemonLake aight 14:43 Krock <3 http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/skins/5/385.png 14:43 LemonLake does the node have an inventory named 'main'? 14:44 crazyR it should have its a clone of the pipeworks mese filter. il double check though incase ive deleted it by mistake 14:45 LemonLake the filters do have said inventory 14:45 LemonLake im aware of that 14:45 crazyR yeah its still there: local inv = meta:get_inventory() 14:45 crazyR inv:set_size("main", 8*2) 14:46 Krock crazyR, replace "invsize" with "size" 14:46 Krock and you need to create the lists before updating the formspe 14:46 Krock c 14:49 crazyR crock you had it, the inv was created after the formspec was set, thats weird though as it works like that on the other filters 14:49 crazyR *krock 14:49 Krock *Krock 14:49 GhostDoge *ĸrock 14:50 Jordach *ĸrocĸ 14:51 Krock *ĸr°çĸ 14:51 GhostDoge *ĸ®ø¢ĸ 14:52 Krock *ҜяосҜ 14:53 reactor ЯEДЯЦM 14:53 sfan5 uh 14:53 GhostDoge *Ḱ̵̀r̛͏̸͞͝ơ͏c̷͢k̶̸̢͝͡ 14:53 Krock RERUM 14:54 Krock ☺ 14:54 Eater4 I wonder if I can write the irc mod in lua 14:54 Eater4 C* 14:55 * Krock wrote a IRC bot from scratch, so it shouldn't be too hard 14:55 Eater4 Krock: if you can do it, then windows might actually work! 14:56 Krock It's just not lua compatible... 14:56 Eater4 :/ 14:56 Eater4 all mods are written in lua right? 14:56 Krock some os.exec() here and over there... 14:57 Eater4 For what? 14:58 Krock 0 idea 14:59 Krock somehow it's not possible to control I/O stuff from other applications 15:04 * Jordach thinks Krock is lying 15:04 Jordach Digilines + Mesecons can control external lights 15:04 Jordach and other stuff 15:04 * Jordach is interested why the interest in BFD is going up 15:05 Jordach and the reason why nobody gets fast, fly is because it renders mobs 100% useless 15:12 Sokomine jordach: perhaps because you're operating a server and people see it on irc 15:13 Jordach Sokomine, i doubt it 15:13 Jordach it's not on the list and people in here and not inchra are interested 15:13 Sokomine in general, people tend to not to notice stuff. espeically if it's text only without pictures, hardly anybody takes a notice :-( 15:14 Sokomine my moresnow mod adds nice snow covers for roof nodes and also allows - to a degree - to place wool layers on stairs and over nodeboxes (as carpets). yet - as i didn't supply any screenshots - all that happened was that krock seems to like the snow machine :-) (at least something) 15:14 Sokomine ok, the intrest in snow might be limited right now. but...with the current heat over here.... 15:14 twoelk hi Sokomine, seen Krock's mt seed mappreview? 15:15 Jordach Sokomine, come join me, made a massively deep mine 15:15 Krock ehm. license of it: CC-BY-NC-ND 15:15 Sokomine oh, no, i don't think so. would be intresting to see 15:15 Krock ^ twoelk 15:15 Krock Sokomine, but those covers aren't working well with stairs :3 15:15 Sokomine although i've changed the village generator so that it works with any mapgen now. the new version can be found under https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages 15:16 Krock yay! 15:16 Sokomine it's still based on nores villages and uses much of the code from there. highly recommended are my cottages mod (else no nice medieval villages) and moresnow (if you have a world that has snow) 15:16 Sokomine oh? why not? 15:16 Sokomine they ought to 15:16 Jordach Sokomine, MESE¬! 15:17 Krock hmm maybe I did something wrong while testing 15:17 * GhostDoge doesn't like snow since every lua mapgen spawns him in an insanely big snow biome 15:17 Jordach BFD isn't that bad ;3 15:17 Sokomine there are of course limits as to what can be done. you can't place a block above the stair and still expect the snow to work - because the snow cover is located in the (apparently) empty block above the one it covers.. 15:17 Sokomine ghostdoge: :) 15:18 * Sokomine diggs jordachs mese and puts it in a chest for later use :-) 15:18 Jordach 20% absorb and 30hp - stone monster 15:18 twoelk I would like snow covered mountain tops, would make excelent views 15:22 Sokomine twoelk: mg sometimes has such nice mountains. that can already be done if you add whole snowblocks on top 15:22 GhostDoge Is there any way to disable this goddamn texture randomization in BFD? 15:22 Krock "mg" is misleading somehow.. 15:23 twoelk Jordach: on my slow system I can actually see the land generated, populated with flowers and then caves carved into the world, resulting in lots of floating flowers and trees 15:24 Jordach twoelk, that's a bug 15:24 Jordach GhostDoge, no 15:24 Jordach actually yes and no, but it'll stay that way when generated 15:25 * Krock 's mapgen generates caves before flowers appear :) 15:25 Sokomine this is a sample of how the snow covers on roofs work: http://www.picpaste.de/screenshot_2407518588.png 15:25 Krock a perfect line :) 15:25 * twoelk imagines some big bug burrowing the caves - and all of a sudden remembers Dune's giant sandworms 15:26 * Krock gets villages 15:27 Sokomine the snow follows the biome. there'll be snow on roofs if there was snow before the village was built 15:27 Sokomine (permasnow perhaps...) 15:27 twoelk nice Sokomine. I have infact seen such snowborders in real life ;-) 15:27 Sokomine twoelk: right :-) especially in mg, it might also be giant rainworms 15:27 Sokomine the houses looked too odd without the snow on them 15:27 Sokomine so i had to write that moresnow mod :-) 15:28 crazyR Sokomine: what map mod are you using there? 15:28 Jordach Sokomine, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/CauvKao_rki7.png 15:28 Krock Sokomine, http://pastebin.com/T79L1Mv6 15:28 Sokomine that was while it was still embedded in mg 15:29 twoelk um? 15:30 Krock wow. already 70 views? 15:30 Sokomine twoelk: huge snow-covered mountain done by mg, with tiny village in front: http://www.picpaste.de/screenshot_2037376802.png 15:30 Jordach Sokomine, there's lots of iron down here 15:31 twoelk nice 15:31 Krock ehm.. snowy desert? 15:31 Sokomine jordach: first mese found on bfd? 15:31 Jordach on my server ;34 15:32 Sokomine krock: hm, strange. need to look into that bug 15:32 twoelk except for maybe sand bioms should rather produce dunes. That village sure is in danger of a sand anvalanche 15:32 Krock exactly. 15:34 Sokomine the villagers hope nobody notices :-) 15:35 Jordach Sokomine, i may try that with BFD 15:35 twoelk maybe they should plant something to fasten the sand 15:35 Sokomine ought to work there. the villages are not entirely finished yet (there are still enough things to be done) but they're ready for first testing 15:36 Sokomine that'd require them to be there :-) they're not yet. that's something on the todo list 15:37 Sokomine (plus it'd require them to be aware of their sourroundings...something almost impossible) 15:37 Sokomine guess you'll have to go to their rescue and build something :-) 15:37 Sokomine can someone do me a favor, download my mg_villages mod and see if you get the same error as krock? 15:38 Jordach Sokomine, http://youtu.be/On-G909RBpQ 15:38 twoelk I once had a screensaver that had Spock inspect the contents of my desktop 15:38 Sokomine *g* 15:39 Sokomine jordach: "Dieses Video ist nicht verfügbar." (this video is not available) 15:39 Sokomine no idea why. wouldn't run direclty in my browser anyway 15:39 twoelk for awareness a villager would need a memory he could read and write to 15:40 twoelk maybe a village awareness? 15:40 Sokomine even then, it would be beyound their ai 15:40 Sokomine we can be happy if they don't jump into the next hole they find 15:42 twoelk hm, ondeath-write-to-village-memory-avoid-this-area (othervillagers:"right, ok, will do") 15:44 crazyR anyone know what this error is. http://pastebin.com/bAtFktV1 in builtin\game\item.lua:276 15:45 Jordach Sokomine, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LfTRItz4q4sF.png 15:51 Sokomine twoelk: hm :) "player seen. avoid by all means!!! hostile creature!!!" might be a very reasonable warning cry :) 15:52 twoelk was thinking of some deer behaviour patterns along that line - never got beyond some notes about deer 15:53 Jordach oh deer 15:53 Sokomine deer behave in a strange way. for some time, we saw a large group next to the road. now it seems to have wandered off elsewhere (or split up or just hidden under the wheat) 15:54 twoelk just hit one on the motorway a few weeks ago :-( 15:54 Sokomine animal behaviour might help with those mobs 15:54 Sokomine oh :-( at least you didn't get harmed 15:54 Jordach twoelk, oh deer :3 15:56 twoelk police told us on that stretch (Hamburg-Luebeck) of some 60km they have some 15 dead deer - each day 15:57 Sokomine poor deer :-( 15:57 Sokomine perhaps the ones i saw are more intelligent and hide from cars 15:58 twoelk roe-deer to be exact 16:05 crazyR Anyone know what causes this error. there is no other debug info ERROR[main]: ServerError: error in error handling [C]: in function 'add_node' 16:05 crazyR ERROR[main]:  C:\minetest\bin\..\builtin\game\item.lua:276: in function 16:06 Jordach >error in error handling 16:06 crazyR well yeah i guesed that lol, but im trying to work out why, and how i can fix it :P 16:07 crazyR this is the line it refers to: core.add_node(place_to, newnode) 16:07 VanessaE that happened when that "lets take out all those asserts" commit went in, didn't it? 16:07 crazyR lol who did that? 16:08 VanessaE I don't remember. check the commit log :P 16:12 Krock http://i.imgur.com/UJOnfiH.png 16:13 VanessaE don't fall off the edge! :) 16:14 _Esteban 0_0 16:14 _Esteban Hi everyone! 16:14 VanessaE hi 16:14 crazyR the only addertions related commit i can find is this one 'Remove vector assertions' https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/33ca115ae46e6a50290e652d280f1d6afb5e2cf8 16:14 _Esteban Anyone knows what is the visual style used back in 3.1 with the dungeon master? 16:15 Krock sprite 16:15 VanessaE _Esteban: look at minetest nostalgia game 16:15 VanessaE it still uses that old method 16:15 _Esteban I used sprite,but it uses the same image for all sides 16:18 Sokomine can anyeone else do me a favor and test my mg_villages mod? 16:19 Sokomine doesn't require more than downloading the mod and starting it in a new world 16:19 VanessaE _Esteban: maybe upright_sprite? 16:20 Calinou nope, it's a 6d sprite 16:20 Calinou ugly as hell, but you see it from all angles 16:20 Calinou Simple Mobs uses upright_sprite (thanks to me) 16:20 Calinou used* 16:21 Calinou now it's 3D 16:21 _Esteban thanks Calinou, what are the settings I have to add to get it? 16:22 twoelk Sokomine: http://pastebin.com/yYad0QDG 16:23 Sokomine twoelk: thanks. same error as the one krock reported. very odd 16:24 _Esteban nvm! I found it on the lua_api document, thanks for your time guys! 16:24 Calinou OK 16:27 Jordach !tw https://twitter.com/qikipedia/status/497051695479005185 16:27 MinetestBot Dog countries v. cat countries... (via @brainpicker) pic.twitter.com/FWNZIruhEd (@qikipedia) 16:37 crazyR i cnt work it out ive even run it in gdb and no other error messages are coming up 16:40 Calinou Sokomine, where's your mg_villages mod? 16:40 Calinou I'd like to test it, but I don't find it in either Mod Release or Modding General 16:41 Krock Calinou, github ;) 16:42 Sokomine calinou: https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages it's recommended to use my cottages mod (from random_buildings, but without the other mods in the pack) and my moresnow mod alongside (moresnow only if you have a mapgen with snow) 16:44 Jordach WAIT WHAT 16:44 Jordach [17:44:00] JD-BFD, cmd status 16:44 Jordach [17:44:01] # Server: version=0.4.10-dev, uptime=10526.7, max_lag=0.1, clients={Jordach,crazyginger72} 16:44 * Jordach calls bullshit on lag 16:46 sfan5 Jordach: 0.1 might actually be right 16:46 crazyR its been rounded down 16:46 sfan5 meow 16:48 Calinou Sokomine, works 16:49 Calinou I spawned in a village 16:50 VanessaE calinou.diety_mode = true 16:50 VanessaE deity* 16:50 Calinou why? :P 16:50 VanessaE jk :) 16:54 * Jordach is already doing Multiplayer testing 16:57 Calinou found another village, far away 16:57 Jordach !tell PilzAdam BFD has never been laggy. https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_14HLwQ6a-A3.png 16:57 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when PilzAdam is around 16:57 Calinou the spawn village has atrocious amounts of wheat 16:59 twoelk Sokomine: http://pastebin.com/mRWCsh0M 17:00 Krock twoelk, got the same :/ 17:01 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/1lQTIoSsh1w0.jpg 17:01 twoelk the second try seems to have gotten a bit farther until tilt 17:04 VanessaE Sokomine: Y U NO USE random rotation of the wheat?! 17:04 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3bf05f020c4ed7b89ab4eb36dde9dc96c4f6811a 17:06 Sokomine random rotation of wheat? sounds good 17:07 twoelk Sokomine: tried in Xubuntu, and spawned in village. Seems to be WindowsBuild spezific 17:08 Sokomine extremly odd, twoelk. explains why krock and you are having issues 17:09 twoelk are you using anything newer than say a week 17:13 twoelk the windows client I am using is Krock's minetest-0.4.10-gsmapper from June 21 17:14 GhostDoge gsmapper D: 17:17 twoelk ok the official 0.4.10 windows32 client also crashes 17:18 GhostDoge twoelk: mingw or msvc? 17:19 twoelk the one from the minetest.net homepage 17:20 GhostDoge twoelk: I can see two win32 builds there 17:21 twoelk oops there is a choice? 17:21 twoelk can't remember 17:22 twoelk minetest-0.4.10-win32-msvc.zip should be the one 17:24 Krock twoelk, * July 21 17:25 twoelk \games\minetest\minetest-0.4.10-gsmapper_20140721\ <- if I could only read 17:26 Krock :3 17:41 Jordach can anyone confirm FPS drops when in the inventory 17:42 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 17:42 Jordach 64fps -> 17fps 17:43 Jordach other formspecs do not do this 17:45 VanessaE Jordach: nope. 17:45 VanessaE can't confirm that here. 17:45 Jordach 20140704 build date 17:46 VanessaE wait, strike that 17:46 VanessaE there is a slight drop for me also 17:46 VanessaE but not a huge one like you're seeing. 17:46 VanessaE a few fps difference at most, for me 17:47 VanessaE 5-10 fps, seems to be 17:47 VanessaE highly variable 17:48 _Esteban Hello 17:48 GhostDoge I can't confirm that fps drop :/ 17:48 _Esteban Sorry if I am annoying with my questions, really,.. 17:48 _Esteban here goes another question: how I use the "- setsprite(p={x=0,y=0}, num_frames=1, framelength=0.2, select_horiz_by_yawpitch=false)"? 17:48 Jordach VanessaE, it's like the code for lower fps in esc is being used in the inventory formspec 17:48 sfan5 hello 17:49 VanessaE Jordach: that's the first thing I thought about but I don't see it here., 17:52 Jordach VanessaE, trying with BlockMen'#s latest build 17:52 Jordach VanessaE, still drops 17:52 Jordach VanessaE, it literally 100%s the CPU while in inventory 17:53 Jordach VanessaE, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/couWrSAwUw7t.png 17:55 VanessaE Jordach: maybe that highrez formspec image? 17:55 Jordach VanessaE, chests are larger and keep at 62 17:56 VanessaE no idea then 17:57 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/CSj39es1bPbh.png 17:57 Krock http://imgur.com/AXl0Mvb 17:57 Krock flush flush 18:04 _Esteban http://i.imgur.com/lVrWpMc.png 18:04 VanessaE you know...some people should just not be allowed near a computer: \https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1583&p=150406#p150403 18:04 VanessaE _Esteban: heh 18:06 _Esteban ^agree 18:06 Calinou computer permit! 18:07 _Esteban Ik, it doesnt look that special, but I saw a few people reques it and im trying my best 18:07 Exio4 turing tarpit 18:07 _Esteban request* 18:13 VanessaE bbl 18:36 Jordach !tell EvergreenTree mobs now stay even when the server restarts, so no losing the special NPC 18:36 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when EvergreenTree is around 18:37 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 18:37 Krock Jordach, new feature or bugfix? 18:37 Jordach Krock, removed the stupid feature of tamed mobs only survive server restarts 18:37 Krock ah 18:38 Jordach if you happen to get one of the easter egg mobs, then you'll realise that they will live forever...provided they don't go into water 18:39 Jordach under certain conditions that they might spawn ;) 18:48 crazyR has anyone played with this digilines mod yet? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6805 18:49 crazyR sorry mod for digilines* 18:55 Krock 1st time, Access violation <3 18:55 Krock 2nd time, crash <3 <3 18:57 * sfan5 meows at Krock 18:57 * Krock meows at sfan5 18:58 * GhostDoge squawks at Krockfan5 18:59 sfan5 wat 18:59 GhostDoge *barks 19:00 GhostDoge !doge 19:00 GhostDoge MinetestBot! 19:00 MinetestBot GhostDoge! 19:00 sfan5 !doge 19:00 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/v7gjzme.jpg 19:01 Krock "such sponge" HAHAHAH 19:03 sfan5 !cat 19:03 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/rBJgj7d.jpg 19:04 GhostDoge TIL The Fairly OddParents is still running 19:17 crazyR guys if i allow while & for in the lua controller will the overheat still com einto affect if it gets too much? 19:18 Sokomine calinou: the people in that village are hungry. i'm afraid the wheat won't be enough in reality to feed a village :-) 19:20 crazyR anyone? 19:20 Krock !doge 19:20 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/JphfPur.jpg 19:21 Jordach !cat 19:21 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/0ekIBPl.jpg 19:21 GhostDoge !doge 19:21 MinetestBot http://25.media.tumblr.com/5b1de230c236cbc6310ae000e1a5cdc2/tumblr_mu7uxmD9i31rdj00zo1_500.jpg 19:21 Jordach !cat 19:21 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/c6nvxLE.jpg 19:22 Jordach http://instagram.com/nala_cat :3 19:26 ShadowNinja crazyR: No, it will just lock up your server if someone starts an infinite (or just long) loop. That's why they're disabled. 19:26 crazyR is there anyway to allow them but limit them 19:26 MinetestBot WindHero: 08-06 18:33 UTC might have to steal your DM Temple schem, might make for some fun in BFD 19:26 ShadowNinja crazyR: Maybe, with the Async API. But it will be very complex. 19:27 WindHero Jordach: sure, just don't steal the credit 19:27 crazyR or somehow bump the heat value up by so much on each loop 19:27 ShadowNinja (Well maybe not, considering the engine handles the thread pool) 19:27 ShadowNinja crazyR: That's impossible. 19:28 Jordach WindHero, i even solved the mystery of npc mobs in simple mobs going MIA after server reloads 19:29 WindHero neat! 19:29 WindHero I also find that mobs in simple mobs hardly even spawn even with a chance of 10 19:29 Jordach WindHero, bull 19:29 Jordach loads are spawning in BFD for no reason 19:30 WindHero I set DMs to spawn on their statues with a chance of 10 19:30 WindHero it took 5 minutes til I found one 19:31 WindHero hmm 19:31 WindHero maybe I'll just switch it to hot_cobble 19:31 ShadowNinja If this is an ABM, higher chance means lower probability. 19:32 WindHero ik 19:33 WindHero the default for DMs is something like 7000 19:33 Jordach 10 chance is still high, something like ~4 would spawn one per 60 seconds 19:34 WindHero I'll test that 19:45 WindHero "Come to the geek side... we have (internet) cookies." 19:46 Calinou Carbone's mob spawning uses values from 15000 to 25000 19:46 Calinou interval of ABM is 2, but active_block_range is 1 19:46 Calinou rat uses 8000 19:46 Jordach TIL buttons under the chat can be pressed 19:46 Jordach click it once, then reopen the formspec and click again 19:47 Jordach (once the chat overlaid exits the formspec) 19:51 WindHero when I think about it 19:52 WindHero these new caves are incredibly similar feeling to the nether 19:57 WindHero That DM Temple was actually my 3rd revision 19:58 WindHero the first time I change it was to raise the statue's pedestal up a block 19:58 WindHero and the second was to add the treasure chest with ABM and facedir 19:59 GhostDoge when I think about it DMs are quite similar to these blazes from MC 20:01 WindHero ehhh 20:01 WindHero DM's look more threatening if you ask me 20:01 WindHero those glowing eyes.... 20:01 GhostDoge But DMs are more awesome 20:02 WindHero that's what I'm saying ;0 20:02 WindHero *;) 20:04 Drae Hi 20:04 WindHero hi 20:25 WindHero Downloading Blender 2.71 now 20:26 Krock congrats 20:26 WindHero rofl 20:26 * Calinou already has Blender 2.7413 20:27 WindHero I just had to wait until I got somewhere without limited internet data 20:27 WindHero Calinou: wut 20:29 Krock wait, I can't comment anymore under videos? stupid google+ 20:34 Jordach i'm already on the 2.72 beta build 20:35 Jordach because it has GOD RAYS 20:35 Jordach in BI / Cycles 20:35 WindHero lol 20:35 WindHero I'll admit I haven't been doing much Blender lately 20:35 WindHero especially not renders 20:36 WindHero lately when I use it, it's to create models for games 20:38 WindHero yay, n++ moved on to v.6.6.7 20:39 WindHero I had purposely downloaded 6.6.5 instead of the latest when I started using it, lo 20:39 WindHero l 21:22 Jordach twoelk, Sokomine: restarting server 21:22 Jordach there we go 21:32 Jordach twoelk, sokomine, going to have to recompile the server 21:35 Jordach twoelk, right about now 21:41 twoelk I guess I should have noticed something fishy was goin on when I could breath underwater. Respawning will be fun 22:02 luke4378 Hi he 22:03 luke4378 Hi Vanessa 22:03 VanessaE hi 22:03 Calinou night 22:03 luke4378 !eightball is Luke a wizard 22:03 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=509&p=150409#p150407 22:03 Calinou oh cool 22:04 Calinou will look at it later 22:04 Calinou (in before they pronounced my user name, lol) 22:04 Jordach luke4378, wrong network 22:04 Calinou probably will look without sound anyway 22:04 PenguinDad !fortytwoballs :P 22:05 luke4378 jordach 22:06 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=509&p=104108#p104108 22:06 Calinou whoa, I edited a post I did exactly 1 year ago, without realizing it. 22:07 PenguinDad Editing a post without noticing it :D 22:08 Jordach twoelk, online 22:09 VanessaE Calinou: haha 22:11 oompa how to i download mods for minetest 4.10 22:11 VanessaE download them from the forums 22:11 VanessaE like you'd download any other file 22:12 VanessaE unzip, rename if the forum post says to, put in your mods folder, enable in the menu 22:25 luke4378 Hi shadowninja 22:27 luke4378 Hi sokomone 22:47 luke4378 Mikal 22:47 mikal[sosa] hi 22:47 luke4378 Hi mikal 22:47 mikal[sosa] hey 22:47 luke4378 I'm surprised I'm on irc now 22:48 mikal[sosa] me two 22:48 luke4378 I'm gonna tell coolcat to get on here 22:48 mikal[sosa] okay 22:50 luke4378 She is getting on 22:50 luke4378 On 22:51 mikal[sosa] okay 22:52 mikal[sosa] so wassup 22:58 mikal[sosa] hey deezl 22:58 deezl howdy 22:58 mikal[sosa] man so when i chat on the server dose IRC come up?? 22:58 luke4378 Mins 22:59 luke4378 All 22:59 VanessaE what server? 22:59 deezl no, the server isn't on this cannel 22:59 mikal[sosa] oh 22:59 VanessaE this is the main Minetest discussion channel, not the Inchra server network. 22:59 deezl this is freenode #minetest 22:59 luke4378 What is the Chanel called deezle 22:59 mikal[sosa] oh really 23:00 mikal[sosa] yhea 23:00 deezl if you want the IRC channel that the mtz-basic is on, you change the server to "isis.inchra.net" 23:00 mikal[sosa] so change the channel 23:00 deezl and join #minetest 23:00 deezl not the channel, the server 23:01 mikal[sosa] still dosent get it 23:04 mikal[sosa] deezl 23:05 deezl yes? 23:06 mikal[sosa] i still dont get it man:( sorry im frostrated 23:06 VanessaE mikal[sosa]: IRC server isis.inchra.net channel #minetest 23:07 VanessaE you are on IRC server freenode channel #minetest 23:07 mikal[sosa] okay i think i get it now 23:07 deezl mikal: when you are at the client page, there is a place to click that says: server and network 23:08 deezl you put the server as isis.inchra.net 23:08 mikal[sosa] okay i get it now 23:20 WindHero I was thinking the hurricane would miss us, but...... 23:20 deezl Is that the famed WindHero of the caverealms mod? 23:20 WindHero xD 23:20 WindHero I do believe so. 23:21 deezl We love that mod on MTZ-Basic 23:21 WindHero :D 23:21 WindHero great, I'm gald you like it 23:21 WindHero *glad 23:21 deezl some very stunning realms have spawned there, you should come check them out sometime 23:22 WindHero hmm, maybe I will 23:23 WindHero I genuinely enjoy working on that mod 23:24 deezl It's fantastic. I understand you worked with Zeno` a bit on tweaking some things 23:25 WindHero deezl: is it on the public serverlist? 23:25 WindHero OH, that's his server! 23:25 deezl yes, as "onez` minetest server" 23:25 deezl yep. I think we need to change the name to mtz-premium though 23:25 WindHero yes, Zeno` has been a great help with the mod 23:27 WindHero I still have plenty of ideas to work into the mod though 23:27 deezl oh yeah? do tell! 23:28 WindHero well 23:28 WindHero I don't think I'll get to it anytime soon, but 23:28 WindHero https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9522#p145501 23:28 deezl lol, ok, I will check it out 23:30 deezl oh man...that crystal is phenomenal...it would be interesting to see how that kind of structure could be built on MT 23:30 WindHero yeah, it's gonna take me a while to figure it out 23:30 WindHero but if i do...... 23:31 deezl I think I have a screenshot somewhere of one of the larger realms on mtz, lemme check 23:32 WindHero I'm on the server atm 23:32 deezl oh cool 23:33 WindHero the other plan I have is to make a brightly lit biome with the whole ceiling covered with glowing rock 23:33 WindHero and ferns and stuff down below 23:33 deezl that would be awesome, kind of like journey to the center of the world 23:34 deezl I'd like to see lakes too 23:34 WindHero that would be part of that biome 23:34 deezl http://picpaste.com/mix_cave_realm-03foTWkj.png 23:34 WindHero I tried once before to do that, but it was before I switched generation methods 23:35 deezl ah 23:35 deezl of course, with creative, I could always make a lake! 23:35 WindHero nice pic 23:35 WindHero par for cavern size 23:36 WindHero during some of my testing earlier, I found one cave some 200-300 blocks tall 23:36 deezl I gotta get a screenshot of the one Sokomine found, it's enourmous. I protected the entire thing to keep the kiddies from mining it out 23:41 deezl WindHero: next time you come on, I'll tp you there 23:42 Exio hihi 23:46 WindHero alright, I just had to do something quick 23:46 WindHero I'll hop back on 23:53 WindHero I remember how it was only two weeks ago that I finished digging down to the caves on my friend's server