| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
(they'll all need to be the same) |
| 00:00 |
crazyR |
thanks :D |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
larger numbers move the text up, I think |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
what change did you make? |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
I'm curious |
| 00:01 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, turns out setting a formspec via a function with a return is a bad idea :3 |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: you suck :) |
| 00:02 |
Jordach |
wwtf |
| 00:02 |
Jordach |
i got into VIM |
| 00:02 |
Jordach |
HALP |
| 00:02 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/39CfTmaDsu2J.png |
| 00:03 |
Jordach |
https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/e19f53a60e5e34f892c7742add1af7db03a261b5 |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
escape w q |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
enter |
| 00:05 |
Jordach |
alt f4 + spawn new git bash |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
that works too. |
| 00:05 |
Jordach |
chests work perfectly fine now |
| 00:07 |
shadowzone |
VanessaE Do you know where celeron55 got the idea to make minetest and why? |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
ask him :P |
| 00:08 |
Jordach |
expect /ignore |
| 00:08 |
shadowzone |
How and where? |
| 00:08 |
crazyR |
VanessaE: just been changing those values and its not had any effect on the signs |
| 00:08 |
shadowzone |
Jordach got it. |
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ShadowNinja |
Jordach: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/LuaBot And Debian/ubuntu are weird, there are half a doven different luasocket packages depending on version. But on a recent version it should be called lua-socket. |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: strange. those settings are the ones you have to change to move the text. |
| 00:09 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, lua-socket works in 14.10 |
| 00:09 |
Jordach |
or something |
| 00:09 |
shadowzone |
Crazyr did you try saving it? |
| 00:09 |
Jordach |
(don't remember current ver) |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
shadowzone: lua-socket-dev |
| 00:09 |
shadowzone |
*CrazyR |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: ^^^ |
| 00:10 |
crazyR |
lol yeah |
| 00:10 |
shadowzone |
Ok cause I often forget to save it then I get mad then I have a "Derp! moment. |
| 00:10 |
* Jordach |
should update signs_liv |
| 00:10 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: There's also liblua51socket2 or something like that. |
| 00:12 |
crazyR |
my bug report mod uses luasocket, It Koool |
| 00:12 |
crazyR |
send the bug report over to my task managment system |
| 00:12 |
crazyR |
*sends |
| 00:12 |
* Jordach |
has considered making a place where users can have a consistent iventory across differing BFD servers |
| 00:13 |
Jordach |
or if you don't want said inv, don't auth to the master server :) |
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Jordach |
and no, storing it locally will bring the Terraria issue of inventory editors :3 |
| 00:14 |
kizeren |
Tried doing that once. Storing locally, atleast in my pathatic attempt didn't work. But meh.....would be neat to have that avaliablity. |
| 00:18 |
crazyR |
does anybody have a modded unified inventry that looks like the new formspec from minetest_next ? |
| 00:19 |
shadowzone |
Not me if I did I'd be using it. |
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* Jordach |
takes an asprin to chill the headache |
| 00:24 |
crazyR |
VanessaE: just double checked changing any of them values isnt moving any f the text on the signs |
| 00:24 |
VanessaE |
strange |
| 00:25 |
crazyR |
oh wait figured it |
| 00:25 |
crazyR |
the signs have to be removed and replaced for it to take effect |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
ah, yep |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
I assumed you were doing that |
| 00:25 |
crazyR |
lol, im too lazy |
| 00:25 |
crazyR |
but go no choice now haha |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:26 |
* shadowzone |
sighs |
| 00:26 |
* shadowzone |
goes off to start a new mod. |
| 00:27 |
shadowzone |
Ok first I have a question about 0.4.10. |
| 00:28 |
shadowzone |
Ok I copied my mods from 0.4.9's latest git version and they don't show up in the configure thing on my singleplayer or my server tab. |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
then you put them in the wrong folder :) |
| 00:29 |
shadowzone |
I deleted the old mods folder and replaced it completely. |
| 00:30 |
crazyR |
is there any better quality fonts around for the sings? |
| 00:30 |
crazyR |
*signs |
| 00:31 |
kizeren |
So, VanessaE been playing with singlplayer MT. Frames seem better but not compared to your vanilla server. |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
how's that? |
| 00:32 |
LemonLake |
pumping out binary gold baby |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: yes, in the extrafonts dir |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
there is a 34px font in there |
| 00:32 |
kizeren |
Think because your server is doing all the hard stuff while my desktop is just doing rendering stuff. When singleplayer, desktop doing it all. |
| 00:32 |
LemonLake |
okay, now im actually out for the night |
| 00:32 |
LemonLake |
cya folks |
| 00:32 |
kizeren |
bye |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: swap that in in place of the existing font files in the textures folder. the text will be at the same visible size but 2x the resolution. |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
night LemonLake |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
kizeren: oh, yes right. |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
and yeah, the view range is insane now isn't it? :) |
| 00:33 |
kizeren |
Sort of. |
| 00:34 |
kizeren |
On my system...the far off objects constantly "refresh" or something strange. |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
that happens to me, too |
| 00:34 |
kizeren |
Ahh ok. |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
the view range jumps in a bit, then jumps back out again |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
no idea why it does that |
| 00:34 |
kizeren |
Shaders don't work for me when the check box is marked. |
| 00:34 |
shadowzone |
Wow why haven't I been here? |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
been where? |
| 00:35 |
shadowzone |
in this channel? |
| 00:35 |
kizeren |
Smooth lighting doesn't seem to work properly on snow either. But meh... |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
shadowzone: dunno, because you never asked? :) |
| 00:35 |
shadowzone |
This is where everything happens. |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
shadowzone: yep |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
this is where we discuss more serious stuff about the engine and games |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
unlike on the server channel where all the ...eh... immature shit happens |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
(of course it gets that way here too sometimes) |
| 00:36 |
shadowzone |
Yeah it happens everywhere. |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
kizeren: snow is a nodebox, no smooth lighting on those. |
| 00:37 |
kizeren |
Ahhh |
| 00:37 |
kizeren |
Never thought of that. |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
well, it's a "leveled" node |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
but that's still a nodebox internally I think |
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Abandonikus |
hi |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 01:18 |
shadowzone |
Hi, how are you |
| 01:18 |
shadowzone |
? |
| 01:19 |
Abandonikus |
boring |
| 01:20 |
Abandonikus |
I'm just downloaded this game, but no one want to help |
| 01:20 |
Abandonikus |
I don't know how to collect blocks |
| 01:22 |
pitriss |
Abandonikus: Where are you playing? Singleplayer or on some online serve? |
| 01:22 |
Abandonikus |
Online, xanadu server |
| 01:22 |
Jordach |
*heavy breathing* http://slipsum.com/ |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
Abandonikus: you probably need to get interact from one of the server's moderators. |
| 01:23 |
Abandonikus |
And now i'm stuc in some hole and dont know how to exit |
| 01:23 |
pitriss |
Abandonikus: You need to ask for interact priv on Xanadu server IIRC |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
Abandonikus: in most servers, you can /spawn or /respawn to get out of somewhere that you're stuck in |
| 01:24 |
Abandonikus |
I will try /respawn , cause /spawn not working |
| 01:24 |
Abandonikus |
Is there any server that i dont need permision to collect blocks? |
| 01:25 |
pitriss |
from memory linuxgaming.us should have interact by default |
| 01:26 |
Abandonikus |
Ok, thanks |
| 01:26 |
pitriss |
yw |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
Abandonikus: most servers require you to request interact |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
it's to help control griefers |
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shadowzone |
Bye I will see you all tomorrow. |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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swaaws |
minetest forum down ?!? |
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nman3600 |
Anyone have a flag suggestion for my flags mod? |
| 06:33 |
PenguinDad |
I only have two spam suggestions https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9805 & https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9806 |
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nman3600 |
Should I do the costa-rican flag? |
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nman3600_ |
About time. |
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nman3600 |
Sneak peek for flags 1.5: https://mediacru.sh/feEmoa1TWlFN |
| 07:18 |
LemonLake |
VanessaE: Solid 65C |
| 07:19 |
LemonLake |
26176 accepted shares |
| 07:20 |
LemonLake |
12 rejected |
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LemonLake |
144 rejected* |
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nman3600 |
I'm always crashing on hexchat... |
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| 08:06 |
sfan5 |
yes! |
| 08:06 |
PenguinDad |
yay! http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048/powers-of-three-edition-16/ |
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PenguinDad |
sfan5: spam for you :P https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9805 & https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9806 |
| 08:14 |
sfan5 |
>Sometimes we just want a quiet environment to enjoy ourselves. Then you may need this cellular jammer [...]. |
| 08:14 |
sfan5 |
lolwatr |
| 08:14 |
sfan5 |
-r |
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Calinou |
encase yourself in a house made of Meze |
| 08:19 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Calinou |
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* nman3600 |
strokes sfan5 |
| 08:21 |
* sfan5 |
is a cat |
| 08:21 |
* PenguinDad |
meows at nman3600 |
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nman3600 |
:D |
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sfan5 |
meow |
| 08:27 |
sfan5 |
hi everyone |
| 08:27 |
sfan5 |
hi MinetestBot |
| 08:27 |
MinetestBot |
Hello sfan5 |
| 08:28 |
sfan5 |
BIRTHDAYS |
| 08:28 |
sfan5 |
Congratulations to: Megaf (27) |
| 08:28 |
sfan5 |
:o |
| 08:28 |
PenguinDad |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 08:28 |
MinetestBot |
<3 PenguinDad |
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nman3600 |
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PenguinDad |
ニャー |
| 09:51 |
* sfan5 |
meows at nman3600 |
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nman3600 |
ã“ã‚“ã«ã¡ã¯ã€€sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
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| 09:52 |
sfan5 |
s/ã„/ã«/ |
| 09:55 |
fling |
sfan5: looks like this patch fixes /usr/local/ problem -> http://bpaste.net/show/490679/ |
| 09:57 |
LemonLake |
hmmm |
| 09:57 |
LemonLake |
i broke my miner |
| 09:57 |
LemonLake |
got banned :/ |
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JRowe |
hey, so I have skylands mod installed, how do I activate it? |
| 10:10 |
sfan5 |
fling: yes that fixes it, but it simply forces minetest to use the system lua (which has an s/\/usr\/local/\/usr/ patch) |
| 10:10 |
sfan5 |
JRowe: use the "configure" menu |
| 10:10 |
sfan5 |
<LemonLake> got banned :/ |
| 10:10 |
sfan5 |
oh |
| 10:10 |
sfan5 |
gone |
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| 10:11 |
Krock |
hi |
| 10:11 |
JRowe |
ok, I enabled it, but I'm not seeing any skylands biomes |
| 10:11 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048/powers-of-three-edition-16/ |
| 10:11 |
Krock |
:D |
| 10:12 |
JRowe |
do i use the v6 mapgen? |
| 10:12 |
sfan5 |
JRowe: did you make sure to create a new world? |
| 10:12 |
JRowe |
I'm creating a new world now - no seed, v6 mapgen selected |
| 10:12 |
JRowe |
minetest Game? |
| 10:14 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 10:15 |
JRowe |
ok |
| 10:16 |
JRowe |
then i enabled skylands and the dependencies and I'm not seeing any skylands lol |
| 10:18 |
Krock |
fly up to 100m |
| 10:18 |
JRowe |
how do i tell how high I am? |
| 10:18 |
JRowe |
I'm above the clouds |
| 10:19 |
Krock |
F5 |
| 10:20 |
JRowe |
ok |
| 10:20 |
JRowe |
100 is right below the clouds |
| 10:21 |
Krock |
skylands is a mod, right? so say /mods and search it there. if it's missing ... |
| 10:22 |
JRowe |
its there |
| 10:22 |
PenguinDad |
JRowe: go atleast up to ~700 |
| 10:23 |
JRowe |
nice |
| 10:23 |
JRowe |
it started to activate |
| 10:23 |
JRowe |
error : not enough memory |
| 10:25 |
JRowe |
restarted |
| 10:25 |
sfan5 |
how much RAM does your computer have? |
| 10:25 |
JRowe |
lol, 8 gigs |
| 10:25 |
JRowe |
i have a ton of stuff running, fixing that |
| 10:25 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 10:26 |
sfan5 |
minetest uses 1 gigabyte at max (on my computer) |
| 10:27 |
Krock |
(depends on texture pack) |
| 10:27 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: maybe he uses HDX 512px :P |
| 10:27 |
sfan5 |
default textures |
| 10:27 |
JRowe |
I did try hdx 512 |
| 10:27 |
JRowe |
but my eyes started to bleed |
| 10:27 |
JRowe |
(using my work pc with no gfx card, every other pixel was white) |
| 10:28 |
sfan5 |
no gfx card? |
| 10:28 |
sfan5 |
there much be one |
| 10:28 |
sfan5 |
otherwise you would be seeing nothing at all |
| 10:28 |
sfan5 |
probably IGP then |
| 10:29 |
JRowe |
yes |
| 10:29 |
PenguinDad |
playing minetest in text mode over serial bus lol |
| 10:29 |
JRowe |
no "external" gfx card |
| 10:29 |
JRowe |
found my first island |
| 10:29 |
JRowe |
neat ;D |
| 10:34 |
fling |
sfan5: this is an example of files installed from an old luairc lib -> http://bpaste.net/show/490741/ |
| 10:34 |
fling |
sfan5: which file to put where when I install this one? -> https://github.com/ShadowNinja/LuaIRC |
| 10:34 |
* fling |
is still packaging things ;> |
| 10:35 |
sfan5 |
fling: git clone https://github.com/ShadowNinja/LuaIRC.git /usr/share/lua/5.1/irc/ <- like that |
| 10:35 |
fling |
sfan5: don't I need to have /usr/share/lua/5.1/irc.lua file or something? |
| 10:35 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 10:35 |
fling |
ok, thanks |
| 10:35 |
sfan5 |
theres /usr/share/lua/5.1/init.lua |
| 10:35 |
PenguinDad |
fling: stop pack aging things and start playing ;) |
| 10:36 |
fling |
PenguinDad: haha :D |
| 10:36 |
PenguinDad |
*packaging |
| 10:36 |
fling |
I have built autosmelter |
| 10:36 |
sfan5 |
fling: you also maybe want to put README.md and LICENSE.txt to /usr/share/doc/luairc |
| 10:36 |
fling |
I just drop some ore and coal into a hole |
| 10:36 |
fling |
and it puts ignots into a chest :> |
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fling |
sfan5: ok thanks |
| 10:37 |
sfan5 |
o/ asie |
| 10:37 |
asie |
hi |
| 10:37 |
fling |
asie: Hello. |
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Krock |
GIT: "Some updates" by Krock at https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest-u_skinsdb |
| 11:06 |
Krock |
lol.. I got the error of "too much objects in the mapblock" - got a disconnect :< |
| 11:07 |
fling |
18:06:40: ERROR[main]: The following mods could not be found: "irc" http://bpaste.net/show/490788/ |
| 11:09 |
fling |
Is it a wrong global dir for mods? |
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Jordach |
!tw sfan5 |
| 11:24 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: Give me a link, a @username, or a tweet id |
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Jordach |
nice mouse pointer sfan5 |
| 11:25 |
sfan5 |
I currently use "oneko -speed 999 -idle 0 -rv" as a mouse pointer |
| 11:27 |
Jordach |
sfan5, stop breaking things :3 |
| 11:27 |
sfan5 |
not my fault |
| 11:29 |
fling |
sfan5: 18:06:40: ERROR[main]: The following mods could not be found: "irc" http://bpaste.net/show/490788/ |
| 11:29 |
fling |
sfan5: it is searching for games in /usr/share/games/minetest/games |
| 11:29 |
fling |
sfan5: but not searching for mods in /usr/share/games/minetest/mods ? |
| 11:30 |
sfan5 |
fling: no |
| 11:30 |
sfan5 |
it doesn't look there by default |
| 11:30 |
fling |
how to make it look there too by the default? |
| 11:30 |
fling |
do I need a patch? |
| 11:31 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 11:31 |
sfan5 |
IIRC debian has one |
| 11:31 |
fling |
sfan5: thanks |
| 11:33 |
sfan5 |
fling: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-games/minetest-v04x.git/tree/debian/patches/shared_mods |
| 11:33 |
sfan5 |
this is what debian uses |
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fling |
sfan5: thanks |
| 11:39 |
shadowzone |
Hi. |
| 11:40 |
JRowe |
ok, so waterfalls from 1500 m falling over sky islands all the way down to the ground are pretty awesome |
| 11:43 |
JRowe |
this pc isnt liking it ;P |
| 11:44 |
PenguinDad |
Awesomeness overflow exception :D |
| 11:44 |
fling |
sfan5: applied but still 18:44:27: ERROR[main]: The following mods could not be found: "irc" |
| 11:44 |
fling |
hmm hmmmm |
| 11:45 |
sfan5 |
fling: maybe there is another patch.. |
| 11:48 |
JRowe |
is there a limit on how much water can be flowing? |
| 11:48 |
sfan5 |
not really |
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raffahacks |
did someone try to run mt on raspberry pi? |
| 12:12 |
sfan5 |
raffahacks: client or server? |
| 12:12 |
shadowzone |
Yep megaf did. |
| 12:12 |
raffahacks |
client |
| 12:13 |
sfan5 |
dunno about that |
| 12:13 |
sfan5 |
but server works |
| 12:13 |
PenguinDad |
,00Megaf didn't try that afaik |
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raffahacks |
shadowzone: did megaf run client or server? |
| 12:14 |
shadowzone |
I think server side. |
| 12:14 |
raffahacks |
mmh... i think client's too heavy |
| 12:14 |
sfan5 |
how about you test it? |
| 12:14 |
raffahacks |
what is new in 0.4.10 |
| 12:15 |
raffahacks |
don't have a pi now |
| 12:16 |
PenguinDad |
raffahacks: look at the changelog http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Changelog#0.4.9_.E2.86.92_0.4.10 |
| 12:17 |
raffahacks |
Raspberry Pi Minetest optimisation - the start: http://youtu.be/nCbnF9OAne4 |
| 12:17 |
raffahacks |
seems laggy |
| 12:19 |
raffahacks |
do you know a good manual for c++ and irrlicht? |
| 12:19 |
raffahacks |
in english or italian |
| 12:20 |
* PenguinDad |
throws something totally unrelated in the channel https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript |
| 12:20 |
Krock |
sfan5, woul you be so nice and move https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9807 to "Mod Releases"? |
| 12:21 |
sfan5 |
!tw https://twitter.com/sfan55/status/491903765394382848 |
| 12:21 |
MinetestBot |
Today: My mouse pointer is invisible or Why you should never reboot your Linux system. (@sfan55) |
| 12:21 |
sfan5 |
^ Krock |
| 12:21 |
sfan5 |
that means no |
| 12:21 |
Krock |
oh.. |
| 12:21 |
sfan5 |
ask joepie91 |
| 12:21 |
sfan5 |
Jordach* |
| 12:21 |
Krock |
Jordach! |
| 12:23 |
raffahacks |
!tw http://twitter.com/fakeuser495929948288843891 |
| 12:23 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from http://twitter.com/fakeuser495929948288843891 (@fakeuser495929948288843891) |
| 12:23 |
raffahacks |
ok it handles well |
| 12:23 |
raffahacks |
sorry for spam |
| 12:24 |
raffahacks |
;) |
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raffahacks |
who is developing for android |
| 12:27 |
sfan5 |
sapier |
| 12:27 |
raffahacks |
is he here |
| 12:28 |
Krock |
!tell kaeza Could you add support in your IRC mod for the [channels] mod? |
| 12:28 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around |
| 12:29 |
raffahacks |
is 1ghz dual core ok for mt? |
| 12:29 |
Krock |
still yes :P |
| 12:29 |
sfan5 |
raffahacks: yes |
| 12:29 |
Krock |
depends on graphic card |
| 12:30 |
raffahacks |
mali 400mhz |
| 12:30 |
raffahacks |
do you know? |
| 12:31 |
sfan5 |
400mhz says nothing about the capabilities of your gfx card |
| 12:32 |
raffahacks |
mali 400 gp2 |
| 12:32 |
raffahacks |
mp2* |
| 12:32 |
sfan5 |
raffahacks: yes, it will probably run mt |
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raffahacks |
http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php |
| 12:34 |
raffahacks |
i'm absolutely not expert on gpus |
| 12:34 |
raffahacks |
will it lag? |
| 12:35 |
Krock |
I only have one arm |
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* Krock |
looks at sfan5 |
| 12:35 |
sfan5 |
raffahacks: nobody can determine that without actually trying |
| 12:36 |
raffahacks |
i will |
| 12:37 |
raffahacks |
am i the only one who just trolls on this channel without doing anything in programmin? :) |
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sfan5 |
no |
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| 12:44 |
shadowzone |
I come on here to learn more about lua I am a first time mod maker. |
| 12:44 |
Krock |
how to make a mod to create mods? |
| 12:46 |
sfan5 |
!unban *!*@unaffiliates/marktwain |
| 12:46 |
sfan5 |
!unban *!*@unaffiliated/marktwain |
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shadowzone |
Krock I have no idea. |
| 12:46 |
markv |
Hello everyone! |
| 12:46 |
shadowzone |
Hi. |
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markv |
!c 1+2 |
| 12:47 |
markv |
:( |
| 12:48 |
Krock |
!c 1 + 2 |
| 12:48 |
MinetestBot |
3 |
| 12:50 |
Krock |
!c 'markv' / 2 |
| 12:50 |
MinetestBot |
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'str' and 'int' |
| 12:50 |
markv |
... |
| 12:50 |
markv |
You can try /exec |
| 12:50 |
Krock |
/exec |
| 12:50 |
markv |
... |
| 12:51 |
markv |
no space |
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* Jordach |
loves VMWare |
| 12:51 |
Krock |
- Unknown command (exec) |
| 12:51 |
markv |
Depending on your client |
| 12:51 |
markv |
Well then |
| 12:51 |
markv |
Just looking how to execute python |
| 12:51 |
Jordach |
markv, on you're own fucking command line |
| 12:51 |
markv |
Jordach, *Your |
| 12:52 |
markv |
I know how the command works |
| 12:52 |
* Krock |
could add lua to his IRC bot :D |
| 12:53 |
markv |
python -c right? |
| 12:53 |
PenguinDad |
''help |
| 12:53 |
HLuaBot |
Commands: reload, load, unload, plugins, op, deop, devoice, voice, join, part, help, uptime, echo, raw, eval, quit, more, ping, shutdown, config, tell -- Use 'help <command name>' to get help with a specific command. |
| 12:53 |
PenguinDad |
''ping |
| 12:54 |
HLuaBot |
Pong |
| 12:54 |
Krock |
''tell PenguinDad hai! |
| 12:54 |
HLuaBot |
I'll tell that to "PenguinDad" next time I see them around. |
| 12:54 |
PenguinDad |
lol |
| 12:54 |
Krock |
:/ |
| 12:54 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: HLuaBot (~LuaBot cpe-67-241-154-164.buffalo.res.rr.com): [2014-07-23T13:54:13] <Krock> PenguinDad: hai! |
| 12:54 |
Krock |
:D |
| 12:55 |
PenguinDad |
she's a bit more personal than MinetestBot |
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markv |
Can I execute python without starting the interpreter interactively? |
| 13:20 |
markv |
Sort of as a hexchat /exec thing |
| 13:20 |
markv |
/exec python -c 9**9**9**9 |
| 13:20 |
Exio |
python -e ? |
| 13:21 |
markv |
-e |
| 13:21 |
markv |
Unknown option: -e |
| 13:22 |
e1z0 |
/exec perl -e "fork while fork" |
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e1z0 |
:| |
| 13:22 |
Exio |
python -c then |
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markv |
Perl doesn't return output either |
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* PenguinDad |
throws :(){ :|: & };: at e1z0 |
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e1z0 |
markv, if you need to get stdout use exec -o |
| 13:28 |
markv |
Linux xubuntu 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 13:29 |
markv |
Okay |
| 13:29 |
markv |
That sends it to the channel |
| 13:29 |
markv |
This could end badly, I'll go test elsewhere |
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| 13:29 |
markv |
i really don't get any output from python |
| 13:30 |
Jordach |
ello ecutruin |
| 13:30 |
ecutruin |
Heyo. |
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| 13:38 |
Krock |
.OyeH |
| 13:38 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, managed to make a minetest server using VMWare |
| 13:38 |
ecutruin |
Kewl. |
| 13:39 |
Jordach |
and i wanted IRC :) |
| 13:39 |
ecutruin |
I've went back to MC for now. ^-^ I started working on mod development again. I'll continue to keep an eye on MT of course. |
| 13:39 |
Jordach |
yeah :) |
| 13:43 |
* sfan5 |
meows at ecutruin |
| 13:44 |
ecutruin |
Hey sfan5. :3 |
| 13:45 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 13:47 |
* Jordach |
has made thoughts about a Minetest server for the IRC regulars |
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| 13:53 |
Krock |
Jordach! |
| 13:53 |
Jordach |
waht |
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Krock |
woul you be so nice and move https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9807 to "Mod Releases"? |
| 13:54 |
Jordach |
check again |
| 13:55 |
Krock |
thanks. |
| 13:55 |
Jordach |
remind me to set that 12ft pool up |
| 13:55 |
Krock |
huh? |
| 13:55 |
Jordach |
it's really hot over here |
| 13:55 |
Krock |
:P |
| 13:55 |
Krock |
oke |
| 13:55 |
Jordach |
no away nicks please |
| 13:57 |
Jordach |
http://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/buxton/nr10-5/weather-forecast/716122 |
| 13:57 |
Jordach |
pfffffff |
| 13:58 |
Krock_awake |
24° everywhere |
| 14:00 |
markv |
I've got a riddle: http://ix.io/dxg |
| 14:00 |
markv |
The answer be the key to #mkt |
| 14:02 |
Jordach |
ASCII codes, really |
| 14:03 |
* Jordach |
goes back to his G9 prototype |
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* Krock_tells |
Jordach, he should set up his 12ft pool |
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* GhostDoge_licks |
Krock |
| 14:37 |
Krock |
:D |
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| 14:42 |
Krock |
!tell Megaf Happy B-day! |
| 14:42 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around |
| 14:42 |
markv |
!tell Megaf Happy Birthday! |
| 14:42 |
MinetestBot |
markv: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around |
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| 14:43 |
PenguinDad |
''tell Megaf Happy Birthday! |
| 14:43 |
HLuaBot |
I'll tell that to "Megaf" next time I see them around. |
| 14:43 |
* sfan5 |
meows at PenguinDad |
| 14:44 |
shadowzone |
sfan5 why? |
| 14:44 |
markv |
Who? |
| 14:44 |
PenguinDad |
Megaf will get birthday spam :D |
| 14:44 |
* sfan5 |
is a cat |
| 14:44 |
markv |
HLuaBot |
| 14:44 |
* PenguinDad |
meows at sfan5 |
| 14:44 |
markv |
HLuaBot, hi |
| 14:44 |
HLuaBot |
Unknown command "hi". Try "help". |
| 14:44 |
PenguinDad |
Hi HLuaBot |
| 14:44 |
* sfan5 |
meows at PenguinDad |
| 14:44 |
sfan5 |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 14:44 |
MinetestBot |
<3 sfan5 |
| 14:44 |
* PenguinDad |
pets sfan5 |
| 14:45 |
* sfan5 |
purrs |
| 14:45 |
markv |
WOah HLuaBot up 11 daya |
| 14:45 |
sfan5 |
pfff |
| 14:45 |
markv |
... |
| 14:45 |
sfan5 |
!py __import__("os").popen("uptime").read() |
| 14:45 |
MinetestBot |
' 10:45:44 up 147 days, 20:17, 0 users, load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.01\n' |
| 14:45 |
markv |
Well then |
| 14:46 |
PenguinDad |
MinetestBot: what's so amazing about that? |
| 14:46 |
PenguinDad |
* markv |
| 14:46 |
markv |
15:46:08 up 189 days, 1:20, 1 user, load average: 2.62, 3.44, 3.63 |
| 14:46 |
markv |
Beat dat |
| 14:46 |
Partmedia |
:p |
| 14:47 |
shadowzone |
Ya'll ok? |
| 14:47 |
markv |
Beat dis too: http://ix.io/dxj |
| 14:47 |
* sfan5 |
meows at shadowzone |
| 14:47 |
markv |
Time goes really slow when I nmap things |
| 14:47 |
Exio |
24 cpus? |
| 14:47 |
Exio |
or 24 cores? |
| 14:47 |
markv |
24 core == 24 cpus, right? |
| 14:47 |
markv |
It does say cpus |
| 14:47 |
Exio |
cpus != cores |
| 14:48 |
PenguinDad |
markv: nope |
| 14:48 |
* shadowzone |
throws a ball of yarn at sfan5 |
| 14:48 |
Exio |
and threads != cores |
| 14:48 |
Exio |
markv, for example: an i7 4770, is 1 CPU, has 4 CORES, and 8 THREADS |
| 14:48 |
Partmedia |
(my SMP treats cores as logical CPUs, only reliable way is to look at dmesg on boot) |
| 14:49 |
markv |
Hmm |
| 14:49 |
markv |
That means 2 threads per core |
| 14:49 |
markv |
I don't get the 4770 |
| 14:49 |
markv |
Or the other pointless numbers |
| 14:49 |
Partmedia |
btw, anyone know of a way to re-generate mobf spawners on an existing world? |
| 14:49 |
Exio |
it is the model |
| 14:49 |
markv |
USE Xeon v1 |
| 14:49 |
markv |
v2, v3 |
| 14:49 |
markv |
Etc |
| 14:49 |
Exio |
markv, cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 14:50 |
PenguinDad |
Integers are pointless numbers :D |
| 14:50 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 14:51 |
Exio |
numbers are pointless doubles! |
| 14:51 |
sfan5 |
unsigned integers are way better |
| 14:51 |
markv |
Exio, http://ix.io/dxk |
| 14:51 |
Exio |
nah |
| 14:51 |
Exio |
integers |
| 14:52 |
Exio |
http://ark.intel.com/es/products/64594/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2620-15M-Cache-2_00-GHz-7_20-GTs-Intel-QPI |
| 14:52 |
Exio |
so you have 12 cores and 24 threads, nice |
| 14:52 |
Exio |
and two cpus |
| 14:53 |
markv |
:( |
| 14:53 |
* markv |
is sad now |
| 14:54 |
markv |
http://ix.io/dxl |
| 14:54 |
markv |
<3 is.io |
| 14:54 |
markv |
<3 ix*.io |
| 14:55 |
PenguinDad |
<3 sprunge.us |
| 14:56 |
markv |
We seem to have a problem http://pastie.org/9415061 |
| 14:56 |
Exio |
markv, why sad lol |
| 14:56 |
Exio |
by having two CPUs you're already over the average |
| 14:56 |
markv |
only 12 cores :( |
| 14:57 |
Exio |
lol |
| 14:57 |
Exio |
i want a quad-cpu mobo |
| 14:57 |
markv |
I actually only have 2 on this machine |
| 14:57 |
Exio |
with opterons |
| 14:57 |
markv |
model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G2030 @ 3.00GHz methinks this is not so good |
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| 14:57 |
Exio |
your system supports only 380GB of ram (the xeon sys) |
| 14:58 |
* shadowzone |
grins |
| 14:58 |
Exio |
384* |
| 14:59 |
PenguinDad |
of course 384GB aren't enough :P |
| 15:00 |
markv |
What if i get 100G of swap... |
| 15:00 |
PenguinDad |
> swap |
| 15:01 |
markv |
http://colocrossing.com/servers |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
| 15:03 |
Calinou |
hi rubenwardy |
| 15:04 |
PenguinDad |
hey rubenwardy |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
markv, WOT rating says it's a scam \o/ |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
yellow trustworthiness |
| 15:04 |
Exio |
WOT is shit |
| 15:04 |
Exio |
the end. |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
it's almost always true |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
hey, gnu.org is just “Otherâ€, not “Politics/Religion†|
| 15:04 |
PenguinDad |
plol |
| 15:05 |
markv |
Can you find out who hosts it? 185.24.99.233 |
| 15:05 |
Krock |
is there already an issue or pull for bigger names ingame? |
| 15:06 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: you mean like PENGUINDAD? |
| 15:06 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, caps != bigger |
| 15:06 |
PenguinDad |
caps == louda |
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markv |
http://ix.io/dxn |
| 15:16 |
markv |
Vs http://ix.io/dxo |
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Will_McDade |
Hey, er, I just did a forum post, and then came here. I use Arch Linux with the Enlightenment desktop and Minetest doesn't seem to start. |
| 15:19 |
sfan5 |
what does it say if you start it in the console? |
| 15:19 |
Will_McDade |
Also the init system is not systemd, it is OpenRC. |
| 15:20 |
Will_McDade |
Irrlicht log: Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1 |
| 15:20 |
Will_McDade |
Irrlicht log: Linux 3.14.13-1-lts #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 18:39:25 CEST 2014 x86_64 |
| 15:20 |
Will_McDade |
Irrlicht log: Using renderer: OpenGL 3.3.0 |
| 15:20 |
Will_McDade |
Irrlicht log: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2: NVIDIA Corporation |
| 15:20 |
Will_McDade |
Irrlicht log: OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better. |
| 15:20 |
Will_McDade |
Irrlicht log: GLSL version: 3.3 |
| 15:20 |
Exio |
could you use a pastebin? |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
^ |
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Will_McDade |
oh yeah. sorry |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
oh look, heres proller, our favourite minetest developer /s |
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* Jordach |
throws sfan5 fire arrows |
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* sfan5 |
meows |
| 15:21 |
Will_McDade |
the window comes up for a second but disappears quickly. it is open but not visible at all. |
| 15:21 |
* Amaz |
is roflol |
| 15:21 |
* PenguinDad |
shoots a torch arrow at ${random-nick} |
| 15:21 |
Jordach |
Will_McDade, that should run |
| 15:22 |
Will_McDade |
I know |
| 15:23 |
sfan5 |
Will_McDade: is that everything it outputs? |
| 15:23 |
markv |
!randomnick |
| 15:23 |
Will_McDade |
yes |
| 15:23 |
sfan5 |
does it crash? |
| 15:24 |
Will_McDade |
Nope. I have to CTRL+C in the terminal to close it though |
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Calinou |
what does init system have to do with the game |
| 15:26 |
sfan5 |
Will_McDade: version? |
| 15:26 |
PenguinDad |
lol since I use -march=native minetest doesn't have these random segfaults anymore |
| 15:26 |
Will_McDade |
0.4.10-1 |
| 15:27 |
sfan5 |
let me try to reproduce |
| 15:27 |
sfan5 |
can't reproduce |
| 15:28 |
sfan5 |
Will_McDade: could you build minetest from source? |
| 15:28 |
Will_McDade |
ok |
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| 15:32 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1 → people always reference this by mistake |
| 15:33 |
sfan5 |
s/people/GitHub/ s/reference/references/ |
| 15:34 |
* Will_McDade |
has rubbish internet |
| 15:34 |
Krock |
Calinou, not the first who notices that. pull or issue 2 isn't better |
| 15:34 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: 07-21 15:27 UTC <PenguinDad> meow |
| 15:34 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 15:34 |
Krock |
!tell PenguinDad moo moo |
| 15:34 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when PenguinDad is around |
| 15:34 |
* PenguinDad |
has rubbish internet too |
| 15:34 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: 07-23 20:34 UTC <Krock> moo moo |
| 15:35 |
Will_McDade |
theres a sysinfo command in hexchat? :o |
| 15:35 |
sfan5 |
HexChat: 2.10.0 ** OS: Linux 3.15.5-2-ARCH x86_64 ** Distro: ArchLinux ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 804MHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,7GiB, 80,1% free ** Disk: Total: 85,3GiB, 69,5% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: 645 NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe ** Uptime: 2h 36m |
| 15:35 |
sfan5 |
10s ** |
| 15:35 |
PenguinDad |
Calinou: also https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 |
| 15:35 |
sfan5 |
damn you hexchat |
| 15:35 |
Will_McDade |
i cannot compare... |
| 15:35 |
Will_McDade |
HexChat: 2.10.0 ** OS: Linux 3.14.13-1-lts x86_64 ** Distro: ArchLinux ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.86GHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.8GiB, 77.6% free ** Disk: Total: 527.7GiB, 79.6% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82566DM Gigabit Network Connection ** |
| 15:35 |
Will_McDade |
Uptime: 24m 37s ** |
| 15:36 |
rubenwardy |
I tried getting HexChat to work on Linux, it was painful |
| 15:36 |
* sfan5 |
has a laptop that is about 3 years old |
| 15:36 |
* Krock |
has a PC which is about 8 years old |
| 15:37 |
* PenguinDad |
has a PC which is 2 years old |
| 15:37 |
Will_McDade |
Why am I tar xf'ing a zip... |
| 15:37 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 15:38 |
Will_McDade |
I built this PC a week ago! |
| 15:38 |
Will_McDade |
cost me £50 excluding the parts I already had. |
| 15:38 |
sfan5 |
I assume not from new parts? |
| 15:38 |
sfan5 |
ah |
| 15:38 |
* Jordach |
is still working on his Zoostorm |
| 15:38 |
Will_McDade |
no... 2nd hand mostly... |
| 15:38 |
Jordach |
2x GTX750ti :3 |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
1x GT6600!! |
| 15:39 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: how much $$? |
| 15:39 |
Jordach |
the second one is mainly rendering |
| 15:39 |
PenguinDad |
1x GTX650 |
| 15:39 |
Exio |
my computers: an amd duron from 2001 + an amd bulldozer from 2012(?) |
| 15:39 |
Will_McDade |
1x MSi Geforce GT N210! |
| 15:39 |
Jordach |
http://www.ebuyer.com/618542-msi-gtx-750-ti-oc-2gb-gddr5-vga-dvi-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-n750ti-2gd5-oc <- one of these |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
1x SiS 667 |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
^beats everything |
| 15:39 |
sfan5 |
1x NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M here |
| 15:40 |
Will_McDade |
I set up Windows 7 in VMware earlier. It hurt my eyes. |
| 15:40 |
Krock |
yeah. don't use VMware. thn it's better |
| 15:40 |
Will_McDade |
Haven't used Windows in months. |
| 15:40 |
sfan5 |
VirtualBox ftw |
| 15:40 |
PenguinDad |
KVM/qemu ftnw |
| 15:40 |
Will_McDade |
VirtualBox is great when you have guest additions installed :P |
| 15:41 |
Will_McDade |
VMware has a xorg driver that works OOTB :) |
| 15:41 |
Will_McDade |
But thats Linux hosts. |
| 15:41 |
Will_McDade |
*guests* |
| 15:43 |
Jordach |
Will_McDade, i'm running 3x VMWare clients on AMD-V 1x Mac OSX, 2x Linux Headless + Xubuntu |
| 15:43 |
Will_McDade |
Nice |
| 15:43 |
Exio |
why do you even need a virtual machine when you have linux containers? |
| 15:43 |
Will_McDade |
MacOSX guest? :p |
| 15:43 |
Jordach |
and Minetest is still pushing 120fps |
| 15:43 |
PenguinDad |
Jordach: try that with failminer :p |
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Jordach |
PenguinDad, the Xubuntu instance runs the MT server (much easier to work with when you have a folder in the bg with a xterm upfront) |
| 15:45 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Jordach |
| 15:46 |
Jordach |
AMD-V/RVI even :3 |
| 15:46 |
Will_McDade |
Minetest didn't work. |
| 15:47 |
Will_McDade |
I have a plan. |
| 15:47 |
Will_McDade |
I'll quickly install LXDE, change desktops, and see if it is Enlightenment causing the problem. |
| 15:47 |
Krock |
run a 32bit minetest version on a 64bit linux, using a VBox :P |
| 15:48 |
Calinou |
shame on you for VMWare :( |
| 15:48 |
Will_McDade |
I use the free VMware Player.... but only if I need to do performance stuff. Most of the time I use Virtualbox. |
| 15:49 |
sfan5 |
Krock: one uses qemu-user for such things |
| 15:49 |
Krock |
sfan5, or that... |
| 15:49 |
Will_McDade |
brb |
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Will_McDade |
LXDE works... |
| 15:56 |
Will_McDade |
well |
| 15:56 |
Will_McDade |
the dev release wont let me create a world... |
| 15:56 |
sfan5 |
whats the error |
| 15:56 |
sfan5 |
brb |
| 15:59 |
Will_McDade |
ERROR: No worldname given or no game selected |
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rubenwardy |
FAQ :P |
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| 16:20 |
Krock |
this is the sound of silence |
| 16:20 |
* shadowzone |
hands Krock a cookie |
| 16:21 |
* Krock |
arms shadowzone a kitteh |
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* rubenwardy |
is wrestling with Irrlicht |
| 16:22 |
shadowzone |
Hi rudenwardy. |
| 16:22 |
shadowzone |
*ruben |
| 16:22 |
* Krock |
feets shadowzone names autocomplete |
| 16:23 |
shadowzone |
Krock huh do what with my name? |
| 16:23 |
Krock |
[name autocomplete] |
| 16:23 |
shadowzone |
Oh. |
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rubenwardy |
Hi shadowzone |
| 16:29 |
Jordach |
tl;dr mowing the lawn sucks |
| 16:29 |
Jordach |
(i have considered |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
retrofitting the brains of a roomba) |
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Jordach |
afternoon asie |
| 16:32 |
PenguinDad |
evenings asie |
| 16:32 |
asie |
hi |
| 16:38 |
shadowzone |
Jordach what is so bad about mowing the lawn? |
| 16:38 |
Jordach |
it's boring as fuck |
| 16:39 |
shadowzone |
Oh. |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
GPS + Co-ords = automated grass cutting |
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VanessaE |
hi all, again |
| 16:42 |
shadowzone |
Hi VanessaE. |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: GPS isn't accurate enough for that |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
but immediate-area radio ranging of some kind should be |
| 16:51 |
Megaf_ |
Hi everyone |
| 16:52 |
Megaf_ |
It's been a while already and no crashes at all |
| 16:54 |
shadowzone |
Happy birthday Megaf_ |
| 16:54 |
fling |
ok so why is not the patch working? -> http://bpaste.net/show/491571/ |
| 16:54 |
Megaf_ |
Thanks shadowzone =) |
| 16:54 |
fling |
patched successfully, still can't found a mod in /usr/… |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE |
get_mods ? |
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| 16:55 |
VanessaE |
oh, not familiar with the mod manager's code. |
| 16:56 |
fling |
VanessaE: the idea is to make it to load mods from /usr/share/games/minetest/mods |
| 16:56 |
fling |
VanessaE: the similar way it is loading games from /usr/share/games/minetest/games |
| 16:57 |
Exio |
VanessaE, and it would be nice app to code |
| 16:58 |
fling |
sfan5: ^ it is still not doing what I want |
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| 17:03 |
PenguinDad |
"Most users ever online was 231 on 04 Jun 2014, 10:41" :O |
| 17:04 |
zoz |
anybody have 4.10 working on OpenBSD? |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
0.4.10* |
| 17:07 |
zoz |
so i need to compile master? |
| 17:09 |
PenguinDad |
the only thing I know regarding *BSD is that minetest runs on FreeBSD |
| 17:10 |
fling |
is modmgr.lua is only for GUI? |
| 17:10 |
fling |
builtin/mainmenu/modmgr.lua |
| 17:12 |
fling |
btw what is mainmenu? |
| 17:13 |
Exio |
the main... menu? |
| 17:13 |
fling |
Exio: gui? |
| 17:13 |
Krock |
start minetest - there's main menu |
| 17:13 |
fling |
ok so I need similar thing but for server and not for mainmenu -> http://bpaste.net/show/491571/ |
| 17:13 |
fling |
which file to patch? |
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| 17:14 |
fling |
this is where I have mod installed -> http://bpaste.net/show/491607/ |
| 17:14 |
fling |
18:06:40: ERROR[main]: The following mods could not be found: "irc" |
| 17:15 |
Krock |
i got a dejà vu |
| 17:15 |
* fling |
too |
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| 17:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
ih |
| 17:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
um is there a way to compile minetest 0.2.x with the latest gcc compiler? |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
why? |
| 17:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
eh |
| 17:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
i want to use minetest 0.2.x |
| 17:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
XD |
| 17:17 |
fling |
stormchaser3000: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-games/minetest-v04x.git/tree/debian/patches/gcc47.patch |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
hold on - does 0.2.x even exist? |
| 17:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
Krock: yes |
| 17:17 |
* Amaz |
throws https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.2.20110731_3 at Krock |
| 17:18 |
* Krock |
nods |
| 17:18 |
stormchaser3000 |
just a sc |
| 17:18 |
stormchaser3000 |
sec* |
| 17:18 |
* stormchaser3000 |
gets on xchat |
| 17:18 |
Amaz |
I can't seem to compile it either... |
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* Krock |
gives twoelk #minetest-de |
| 17:19 |
twoelk |
passiert da jetzt etwas mehr? |
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stormchaser3000 |
there |
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stormchaser3000 |
fling: how to apply that? |
| 17:21 |
Amaz |
I can't seem to compile it (or any version before 0.4.x) either... |
| 17:21 |
stormchaser3000 |
Amaz: your compiler is too new |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
try minetest-classic |
| 17:22 |
Amaz |
Right. |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
it compiles fine with modern compilers |
| 17:22 |
Amaz |
I can complie that. |
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| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
and it's basically 0.3.x with extra stuff added |
| 17:22 |
stormchaser3000 |
VanessaE: minetest-classic is now voxelands |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
wat |
| 17:22 |
* Amaz |
wants earlier version though |
| 17:22 |
Amaz |
*versions |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
stormchaser3000: it is? http://www.minetest-classic.com/ |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
this looks like the current release to me |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
fling: your probably need to find the code that finds a mod and modify it |
| 17:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
VanessaE: just a sec |
| 17:23 |
Krock |
an older minetest version with much speed ups and fixed would be cool |
| 17:24 |
Krock |
pseudo old |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
darkrose's last commit to her gitorious repo was back in May though |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
ah here we go |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
good call, stormchaser3000 |
| 17:24 |
twoelk |
wierd, every time I join another channel I rejoin all channels I have allready joined. |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
https://gitorious.org/minetest-classic --> "VOxelands" |
| 17:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
Vanessae: yep lol i was just about to post the commit |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
s/O/o/ |
| 17:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
so how to compile 0.2.x with the latest gcc compiler? |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
don't. |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
just let it die already. |
| 17:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
XD |
| 17:26 |
Krock |
such nostalgy |
| 17:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
but i was to use an older version |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
if you want 0.2.x, play Nostalgia-game on 0.4.x |
| 17:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am using a dell latitude d610 for now for 1 |
| 17:27 |
twoelk |
eh, sfan5, things seem to get a little heated on meowtest |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
with the latest commits to 0.4.x, it's as fast as 0.2.x was as long as you're not using nodeboxes (and nostalgia doesn't, afaik) |
| 17:27 |
stormchaser3000 |
and for 2 would be nice to play for historical purposes |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
faster, even |
| 17:27 |
fling |
sfan5: this is what I'm doing |
| 17:28 |
fling |
sfan5: but I can't find it anywhere |
| 17:28 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh well time to compile an old commit on minetest-classic |
| 17:32 |
sfan5 |
twoelk: hm? |
| 17:32 |
Calinou |
nostalgia is even older than 0.2.x |
| 17:32 |
Calinou |
stormchaser3000, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4120 |
| 17:32 |
Calinou |
try this |
| 17:33 |
Jordach |
tl;dr i've been getting the sky colour in my renders wrongh |
| 17:34 |
zat |
thats wrongh |
| 17:35 |
stormchaser3000 |
Calinou: yeah that is a nice texture pack bust still |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
enough for me :P |
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sfan5 |
twoelk: saw he note I left you? |
| 17:46 |
twoelk |
ja, danke :-) |
| 17:46 |
twoelk |
no selfprotect? |
| 17:46 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 17:46 |
sfan5 |
I plan on adding protect nodes like in landrush |
| 17:47 |
twoelk |
I like sokomine's markers, simply becaus they make use of apples |
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| 17:53 |
Calinou |
this is for sfan5: http://la-vache-libre.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cat-map-2.png |
| 17:54 |
sfan5 |
twoelk: if you need a bigger protected area just ping me on IRC |
| 17:54 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: I don't have a cat ~~~ |
| 17:54 |
twoelk |
ok |
| 17:55 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: Change "I know where your cat lives" to "I know where you live" ;) |
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sfan5 |
twoelk: planst du da noch einen keller drunter zu bauen? |
| 18:03 |
twoelk |
naja, irgendwo muessen die steine ja herkommen ;_) |
| 18:03 |
Exio |
is that brainfuck with letters instead of symbols? |
| 18:04 |
twoelk |
eigentlich wollte ich schon etwa zu einer sete verdoppeln - als ich hier nolch alleine war |
| 18:05 |
PenguinDad |
Exio: that's a brainfuck dialect called deutsch :P |
| 18:05 |
Exio |
that explains all! |
| 18:08 |
sfan5 |
Exio: s/all/everything/ |
| 18:09 |
Exio |
k |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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| 18:29 |
eugd |
hello? |
| 18:29 |
eugd |
ah good not muted |
| 18:29 |
eugd |
any devs on here? |
| 18:29 |
eugd |
or anyone? |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
there are 122 people here |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
eugd, don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 18:29 |
eugd |
I had a few questions about the code |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
you likely want to go to #minetest-dev for that |
| 18:30 |
eugd |
anyone know more about the nature of the current world gen limit, where it exists in the code? |
| 18:30 |
eugd |
sfan5 i'm on webchat |
| 18:30 |
Calinou |
eugd, mapgen crashes if it goes too far, same for collision detectiob |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
get an IRC cleitn |
| 18:30 |
eugd |
which is muted on #mintest-dev |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
client* |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
eugd: signed short is the limit |
| 18:30 |
eugd |
so is it somewhere in mapgen, not anything to do with database? |
| 18:30 |
eugd |
ah thank you sfan5 |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
the limit is everywhere in the code |
| 18:31 |
eugd |
yeah what i figured |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
one sec, let me find some patch |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
database, mapgen, node handling routines |
| 18:31 |
eugd |
how does minecraft do its 'infinite'? |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
floats and signed int probably |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
eugd, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9183&p=149073#p149073 |
| 18:31 |
eugd |
i know it's really 30mil |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
signed, sfan5? there are negative coords |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: signed = with sign bit |
| 18:32 |
eugd |
yeah Calinou i'm emugod from that threat |
| 18:32 |
eugd |
*thread |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
signed is from -32xxx <-> 32xxx, unsigned is from 0 to 65535 |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
precisely: |
| 18:32 |
Exio |
!c 2^15 |
| 18:32 |
MinetestBot |
13 |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
!c (2**16) / 2 |
| 18:32 |
MinetestBot |
32768.0 |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
^ Calinou |
| 18:32 |
eugd |
and the 6% gain you mentioned is really just from changing constant GENERATION_LIMIT from 31000 |
| 18:32 |
Exio |
sfan5, ... |
| 18:32 |
Exio |
!c 2**15 |
| 18:32 |
MinetestBot |
32768 |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
eugd, this allows you to go further than 30912, but collision may hang the game at -32768 if you fall (no collision past that limit) |
| 18:33 |
Krock |
!c 666^1337 |
| 18:33 |
MinetestBot |
1955 |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
would be nice if we had that 6 % gain by default |
| 18:33 |
eugd |
yeah |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: the world is big enough already |
| 18:33 |
eugd |
i agree sfan5 i'm just trying to learn to engine |
| 18:33 |
eugd |
i want to try paramats slicing |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
eugd: http://dev.minetest.net/Engine_structure |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
sfan5, we should strive for excellence |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
Minecraft recently got huge performance improvement |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
+1 sfan5 |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
let's catch up |
| 18:34 |
eugd |
i think it could be done by changing mapsector size |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: performance != world size |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
>performance improvement |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
never change mapblock size |
| 18:34 |
eugd |
mapsectors are vertical slices, right? |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
how'sthat possible in Java?? |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
it breaks all maps |
| 18:34 |
eugd |
i've played with that Calinou |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
Krock, by improving occlusion |
| 18:34 |
eugd |
I have questions about it as well |
| 18:35 |
* Krock |
translates and wikipedias "occlusion" |
| 18:35 |
eugd |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9786 |
| 18:35 |
eugd |
i think 10-node blocks would be better for gameplay reasons |
| 18:35 |
eugd |
but yeah a huge (if easily accomplished) change |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
10 sounds like crap |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
not a power of 2 is insane |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
8 is better |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
still breaks all maps |
| 18:36 |
eugd |
yeah |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
16 is good, there's nothing better |
| 18:36 |
Krock |
1 is best |
| 18:36 |
eugd |
but then it's metric square |
| 18:36 |
eugd |
i'm thinking of node subdivision idea |
| 18:36 |
eugd |
i had |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
“Do a smaller cubes†here we go |
| 18:36 |
eugd |
it could work with LOD |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
make player 4 times as big (eye height/collision radius), here you have your subdivided world. |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
but everything will be 4 × slower |
| 18:36 |
Krock |
<Calinou>Krock, by improving occlusion |
| 18:37 |
Krock |
possible in minetest? |
| 18:37 |
Calinou |
we had 2 farmesh implementations, both were slow and inaccurate. LOD is unrealistic for a voxel game. |
| 18:37 |
eugd |
mapsector is a vertical slice, right? 64k from top to bottom? |
| 18:37 |
Calinou |
Krock, ask in -dev |
| 18:37 |
eugd |
Calinou i mean subdivision level of detail |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
what do you want to do? |
| 18:38 |
eugd |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9648 |
| 18:38 |
PilzAdam |
eugd, yes, it comes from an old way of storing worlds on disk |
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| 18:39 |
eugd |
PilzAdam thanks, am thinking if that could not factor into or facilitate https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9183&start=50#p147125 this idea |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
first, add something to not save every generated mapblock |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
then, add such a thing |
| 18:41 |
eugd |
change to delta engine is beyond me |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
great, someone in the Freeminer thread has a Rainbow Dash avatr |
| 18:41 |
Krock |
!c 2 ** 24 |
| 18:41 |
MinetestBot |
16777216 |
| 18:41 |
Krock |
great, could be PenguinDad |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
Nocte |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
who's that? |
| 18:42 |
PilzAdam |
eugd, I recently wrote my own little voxel engine, I could try this stuff out with it |
| 18:42 |
PilzAdam |
I already thought about decoupling mapblockmesh and mapblocks |
| 18:42 |
eugd |
voxel subdivision stuff? |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
PilzAdam, is it pushished? |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
*bli |
| 18:42 |
PilzAdam |
one could play arround with mapblock size easier then |
| 18:43 |
eugd |
it's trivial to change in curent minetest code |
| 18:43 |
PilzAdam |
eugd, do you have a data model at hand how to store this? |
| 18:43 |
eugd |
not sure if it's innefficient or what |
| 18:43 |
eugd |
but it's a single constant in constants.h |
| 18:43 |
eugd |
PilzAdam no, that's what i'm still thinking on |
| 18:43 |
eugd |
i think |
| 18:43 |
eugd |
a separate map for each subdivision level? |
| 18:43 |
Krock |
u don't say? |
| 18:44 |
PilzAdam |
maybe a tree-like structure? |
| 18:44 |
PilzAdam |
where you can change nodes to "containers" at runtime |
| 18:45 |
eugd |
i don't know about tree-like structure but yes changing subdivision LOD dynamically i think would be key |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
http://0fps.net/2012/01/14/an-analysis-of-minecraft-like-engines/ → is totally impossible to understand for me |
| 18:45 |
eugd |
the concept is similar to octrees, as Inocudom pointed out |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
I'll never be a “good programmerâ€, lol |
| 18:46 |
eugd |
ha, yeah, that link calinou just posted |
| 18:46 |
eugd |
but i don't think octrees exactly would be the data structure of choice for it |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
nothing that breaks current maps will ever be merged |
| 18:47 |
eugd |
i don't know enough of how the current available db work |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
this implies not using octrees |
| 18:47 |
PilzAdam |
eugd, it would look something like this: 1 root node (the whole world); some child leaves (probably like mapblocks currently); subchilds of that are the current nodes |
| 18:47 |
eugd |
yeah PilzAdam and that's basically an octree |
| 18:47 |
eugd |
and it has problems |
| 18:47 |
eugd |
i was thinking maybe more like |
| 18:47 |
eugd |
each subdivision level having its own whole map |
| 18:48 |
eugd |
but i don't know if that's possible |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
well, an octree is fixed to 8 childreen |
| 18:48 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: that guy isn't me because I have zero-knowledge of javascript |
| 18:48 |
* Krock |
must look at the FM forums.. |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
I was thinking about each node having its size definition stored dynamically |
| 18:49 |
* Jordach |
is considering starting a MT server for IRC'ers |
| 18:49 |
eugd |
does a map database require 'filler' data for all chunks, to create continuity |
| 18:49 |
eugd |
is the question |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
Krock, tons of people with pony avatars, makes it worth looking at |
| 18:49 |
Jordach |
how about RTFS |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
until you see xyz's |
| 18:49 |
eugd |
*blocks, sorry |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
-+ |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
Jordach, means? |
| 18:50 |
Calinou |
Jordach, if so, make it use Carbone ;) |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
Read the Fucking Source |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
:D |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
quick vote: Carbone or MTG |
| 18:50 |
Calinou |
MTG is crap in comparison |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
BASE |
| 18:50 |
eugd |
if you force generation of two far disparate blocks, does the database need to create filler data between them? |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
(bas-ically the old MTG with some changes) |
| 18:51 |
PenguinDad |
data cement :D |
| 18:51 |
eugd |
is the database actually arranged in a logical equivalent to map arrangement? i'd assume not |
| 18:51 |
Krock |
eugd, get an IRC client and ask the ain the dev channel please. there you have a higher change for useful answers |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
eugd, in the dynamic tree structure I imagine: no |
| 18:51 |
Krock |
*and ask that in |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
regarding occlusion, hmmmm and RealBadAngel have been talking about that. |
| 18:52 |
PilzAdam |
eugd, or are you talking about Minetest? |
| 18:52 |
eugd |
about databases in general really |
| 18:52 |
eugd |
i feel like this is probably what makes a database a database as opposed to a file |
| 18:52 |
eugd |
like if you have two blocks far apart from each other, and nothing else, that database will be tiny, right? |
| 18:53 |
Krock |
huh?? the main thing is, minetest runs. |
| 18:53 |
PilzAdam |
eugd, yes |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
no, we need math! anatomically correct player models! smaller cubes! menger sponges! mese menger sponges! |
| 18:54 |
* Calinou |
shrugs |
| 18:54 |
eugd |
what's a menger sponge? |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: mese menger sponge.....new Carbone item? |
| 18:54 |
Krock |
math |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
O_o |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
eugd, it's some fractal cube |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
eugd: think sierpenski's triangle, but with 4 sides. in 3d. |
| 18:54 |
eugd |
i'm reading the wiki, sorry |
| 18:54 |
eugd |
i got it |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menger%20sponge |
| 18:55 |
eugd |
parodying my subdivision idea |
| 18:55 |
Calinou |
kind of |
| 18:55 |
eugd |
yeah Calinou that page lol |
| 18:55 |
fling |
hmm hmmmm |
| 18:55 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, I wanted to add sponges mod, but water constantly flew in, causing lag |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: seriously...that might be an interesting new item if you can find a use for it ;) |
| 18:55 |
Calinou |
Wikipedia has a very nice render |
| 18:56 |
eugd |
does minetest have old MC sponges (which i believe were recently reintroduced)? |
| 18:56 |
VanessaE |
there is a sponge mod. |
| 18:56 |
eugd |
would be a fun little mod to change the nodes model, if nothing else |
| 18:56 |
eugd |
PilzAdam you here? |
| 18:56 |
PilzAdam |
hm? |
| 18:57 |
eugd |
to get back to what I was saying before, i think the way to do subdivision would be to have each subd level have its own db map |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
very laggy, water constantly tries to go back in |
| 18:57 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: someone needs to just fucking fix the water reflow code once and for all |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
only efficient way is to have a sponge that replaces air with a block where liquids can't flow, but buildable_to so that players can replace |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
and have an ABM replace the dug nodes with that block where liquids can't flow on a regular basis |
| 18:58 |
eugd |
there should be 'gas' type rather than 'air' |
| 18:58 |
eugd |
gas/solid/liquid |
| 18:58 |
PilzAdam |
eugd, dont you want to have an infinite amount of detail? |
| 18:58 |
eugd |
PilzAdam not really |
| 18:59 |
Calinou |
meh, stop making fun of them |
| 18:59 |
eugd |
there is no 'infinite', of course |
| 18:59 |
eugd |
I really think from 1m cubes you could only really go down probably just one level, that would be relevant at gameplay |
| 19:00 |
eugd |
maybe two, and up one level (block is node) for terrain LOD purposes |
| 19:04 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Jordach |
| 19:04 |
* Jordach |
meows back |
| 19:04 |
Calinou |
how do you manage block texturing (eg. grass side)? |
| 19:04 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: do you remember out skyblock world? |
| 19:04 |
Calinou |
liquids? |
| 19:04 |
Calinou |
nodeboxes? |
| 19:04 |
Jordach |
sfan5, ya |
| 19:04 |
Calinou |
lighting? |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
<3 Jordach |
| 19:05 |
eugd |
Calinou talking to who? |
| 19:05 |
Jordach |
tl;dr i don't remember Xubuntu's login not looking like shit |
| 19:05 |
Jordach |
Xubunu looks amazing |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
you |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
Jordach, 14.04 has a revamped login screen |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 19:05 |
eugd |
only vague idea about liquids |
| 19:05 |
* sfan5 |
would love to use xfce right now |
| 19:05 |
eugd |
at subd levels |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
but mouse pointer be insible |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
invisible |
| 19:06 |
* sfan5 |
currently uses LXDE |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i'll wait until the next release |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
simply because they'll have APU drivers |
| 19:06 |
eugd |
i think each subd level would have to have its own block types |
| 19:06 |
eugd |
only usable there |
| 19:07 |
eugd |
and i kind of imagine the subd level would be solid color textures |
| 19:08 |
eugd |
the subd only is generated in special circumstances, is the #1 thing |
| 19:08 |
eugd |
there is definitively a 'normal' level |
| 19:09 |
eugd |
which would be just like normal |
| 19:09 |
* Krock |
is testing HEXAHEDRA and wonders why the settings menu doesn't show up |
| 19:09 |
eugd |
like normal minetest, rendering and logic wise |
| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile, xubuntu *still* hasn't figured out how to give a full graphical splash from POST to desktop if you have a proprietary drive in use. |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
driver* |
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| 19:11 |
eugd |
oh and nodeboxes wouldn't exist |
| 19:11 |
eugd |
they'd be subd 'statues' |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
no nodeboxes? |
| 19:11 |
* VanessaE |
collapses |
| 19:11 |
eugd |
that was the whole real idea behind it |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
you don't build all things by hand |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
*twitch* |
| 19:11 |
eugd |
project tables |
| 19:11 |
* shadowzone |
hands VanessaE a cookie |
| 19:11 |
eugd |
make it once and then fill hopper with raw materials |
| 19:11 |
shadowzone |
that'll help you stop twitching. |
| 19:11 |
eugd |
pull out as many as you need |
| 19:11 |
* VanessaE |
puts the cookie in OldCoder's kitten pile (they need fed) |
| 19:12 |
eugd |
maybe i'm using wrong terminology, 'nodebox' means sub-1m model/collision nodes, right? |
| 19:13 |
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| 19:14 |
MinetestBot |
LemonLake: 07-21 15:27 UTC <Krock> test |
| 19:14 |
LemonLake |
!tell Krock screw you and your tests |
| 19:14 |
MinetestBot |
LemonLake: I'll pass that on when Krock is around |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
!tell LemonLake oke |
| 19:15 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: 07-24 00:14 UTC <LemonLake> screw you and your tests |
| 19:15 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when LemonLake is around |
| 19:15 |
LemonLake |
im quite around |
| 19:15 |
MinetestBot |
LemonLake: 07-24 00:14 UTC <Krock> oke |
| 19:15 |
LemonLake |
dudes... |
| 19:15 |
MinetestBot |
LemonLake: 07-24 00:14 UTC <Krock> oke |
| 19:15 |
LemonLake |
hexchat no save servlist.conf |
| 19:15 |
LemonLake |
its like 'no we no do' |
| 19:21 |
pitriss |
Hi please, did anyone tried to do online backups of world by connecting to that sqlite3 db, locking it as read only a do backup? |
| 19:21 |
markv |
changing ZNC playback to 2000 lines was a bad idea |
| 19:21 |
markv |
(Hi everyone!) |
| 19:21 |
markv |
pitriss, No, it corrupts the whole world |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
eugd, a nodebox is a pre-defined static model, made of cuboids, with a suited collision box and selection box (the selection box may be different) |
| 19:22 |
eugd |
yeah |
| 19:22 |
eugd |
that's basically what i'm thinking could be replaced with subd, for interesting gameplay |
| 19:22 |
eugd |
and for eventual VAEs as well |
| 19:23 |
pitriss |
markv: how it can corrupt world? when it is read only then it should be in consistent state and all changes should be commited after unlocking.. |
| 19:24 |
markv |
I guess if you can make it read only it'll be fine |
| 19:24 |
markv |
There's no way to do that iirc |
| 19:24 |
markv |
LevelDB doesn't have this problem |
| 19:25 |
pitriss |
markv: sqlite3 supports locks.. it should be doable.. |
| 19:28 |
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| 19:29 |
playzooki |
h |
| 19:29 |
playzooki |
*hi |
| 19:30 |
playzooki |
anybody know where i can find unified dyes? ive searched the forum and cant find it |
| 19:30 |
sfan5 |
pitriss: yes you can do that, it won't corrupt anything |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=28399 |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
playzooki: ^^^^ |
| 19:30 |
playzooki |
thanks |
| 19:30 |
pitriss |
sfan5: thank you:) |
| 19:30 |
markv |
"I don't always make sense, but when I do I don't" |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
btw, haven't seen you around in a while :) |
| 19:33 |
luizrpgluiz |
because minetest runs better on linux? |
| 19:35 |
markv |
luizrpgluiz, everything runs better on linux |
| 19:35 |
markv |
Except wine |
| 19:35 |
eugd |
markv very true |
| 19:35 |
eugd |
'everything that does run runs better' |
| 19:35 |
markv |
Half Life 2 is better on windows tho |
| 19:35 |
eugd |
tf2 better on linux |
| 19:35 |
werwerwer |
i heard someone got better FPS in minetest on windows cause directX |
| 19:35 |
pitriss |
markv: most funny thing is that rdp (MS thingy) is muuuch faster on linux :D |
| 19:35 |
eugd |
same fps with lighting locked on |
| 19:36 |
markv |
rdp |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
Direct3D means no shaders on Minetest |
| 19:36 |
markv |
Remote Desktop thingy? |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
Remote Desktop Protocol |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
not thingy ;) |
| 19:36 |
werwerwer |
yeah, thingy would be RDT |
| 19:38 |
PenguinDad |
let's develop Indirect4D! |
| 19:38 |
luizrpgluiz |
There, the minetest ta mute in 0.4.10 and 0.4.9 in this standard |
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| 19:49 |
luizrpgluiz |
There, the minetest ta mute in 0.4.10 and 0.4.9 in this standard |
| 19:50 |
Krock |
huh |
| 19:50 |
OldCoder |
Yo |
| 19:51 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, my kittens receive the finest in kitty kuisine |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
luizrpgluiz: sorry, that doesn't make any sense. please try again. |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
okay, does anyone want a small friendly IRC users only server |
| 19:52 |
* Amaz |
would like it |
| 19:52 |
Krock |
if it uses my mapgen :P |
| 19:52 |
Amaz |
What game? |
| 19:52 |
Krock |
(or game) |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
Amaz, either carbone or MTG |
| 19:52 |
Amaz |
BFD? ;) |
| 19:52 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
| 19:52 |
Krock |
BASEplzplzplz |
| 19:52 |
Amaz |
Carbone would be better, imo |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
(i *am* thinking of a easy mode version) |
| 19:53 |
luizrpgluiz |
minetest in 0.4.10 is muted |
| 19:53 |
PenguinDad |
I'd vote for carbone too |
| 19:53 |
VanessaE |
luizrpgluiz: make sure you have OpenAL installed |
| 19:54 |
luizrpgluiz |
yes |
| 19:54 |
luizrpgluiz |
but 0.4.9 is with sound |
| 19:54 |
VanessaE |
maybe a broken build? |
| 19:54 |
Krock |
0.4.10-dev works fine for me. getting lound TNT sounds |
| 19:54 |
VanessaE |
wait a sec here. |
| 19:55 |
VanessaE |
sound works fine for me, luizrpgluiz |
| 19:56 |
VanessaE |
(using a very recent git pull, post-0.4.10) |
| 19:57 |
LemonLake |
oops |
| 19:57 |
LemonLake |
i accidentally ate the souls of a few thousand children |
| 19:57 |
LemonLake |
oh well |
| 19:59 |
PenguinDad |
Now I know of which guy this Nocte reminds me :/ |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: minetest game with mg? |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
sfan5, hmmm |
| 20:02 |
Jordach |
*powers up the VM |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, btw, xubuntu does have a boot animation |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
yeah but half the time it doesn't work, if you're using a proprietary driver |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ImXOyxZBPqpC.png |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
VMWare VMs don't have special drivers |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
exactly. |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
I'm talking about e.g. fglrx |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
ew |
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| 20:04 |
VanessaE |
install that and most systems will lose the startup splash |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
still don't have APU based Radeon HD |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
support |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
proprietary drivers break native-resolution framebuffers, thus breaking graphical bootscreen |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
(thanks Plymouth) |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
(hopefully by the next release it should have them, alleiviating my black screens) |
| 20:04 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: exactly. |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
there are hacks, but the easy fix is to use a free driver |
| 20:04 |
SylvieLorxu |
>Running a server on Xubuntu in VMWare on Windows |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
I disable graphiacl boot anyway |
| 20:05 |
SylvieLorxu |
I think I just died a little inside... |
| 20:05 |
Jordach |
SylvieLorxu, fyi, i want the IRC mod to actually work |
| 20:05 |
* Calinou |
revives SylvieLorxu's little inside |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
SylvieLorxu: at least he's experimenting with Linux |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i'm happy to run Linux, except my APU doesn't have good enough drivers |
| 20:06 |
Exio |
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2bgm0x/walls_you_hit_in_program_size/cj5d0x6 |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
14.04 black screens every 5 minuts |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: 6 months ago when someone said Linux you were like Windows or gtfo |
| 20:06 |
Krock |
BSoD |
| 20:06 |
luizrpgluiz |
Where do I find the download openal? |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: tried arch linux? |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
sfan5, fuck that noise to signal |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
??? |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
i may fuck with arch later |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
yes please |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
(and VMWare allows me to export the VM as a real operating system) |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: don't fuck it too hard.. |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
;) |
| 20:09 |
* Jordach |
grabs an iso |
| 20:09 |
VanessaE |
guys, someone please help luizrpgluiz sort out his sound problem... |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
you need to regenerate the boot stuff anyway if you want it as real os |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
luizrpgluiz, did you install OpenAL |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
(or is the system volume muted or lowered, often my case) |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
luizrpgluiz: http://www.openal.org/creative-installers/oalinst.zip |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
tfw 'openbox' uses 100% cpu |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
wtf |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
sfan5, which one do i get |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
dual or x86_64 |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
one of those |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
both work |
| 20:10 |
PenguinDad |
tfw == to fucking work? |
| 20:11 |
sfan5 |
the dual one will boot amd64 if your cpu supports it |
| 20:11 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: that face when |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
>bootstrap |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
aha |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
there we go |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
testing Arch alongside Xubuntu :3 |
| 20:12 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: https://mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR.mp4 |
| 20:12 |
sfan5 |
video of out skyblock map ^ |
| 20:12 |
Jordach |
(and if i ever get around to it - i might actually make a base install list to set arch up each time i reinstall |
| 20:12 |
sfan5 |
(watch quickly, until mediacrush finshed converting and overwrites it) |
| 20:12 |
sfan5 |
our* |
| 20:12 |
markv |
I just made a nice password management utility |
| 20:13 |
markv |
Now to send the data back to a central server and distribute it |
| 20:13 |
sfan5 |
markv: go away, nobody cares |
| 20:13 |
sfan5 |
and thats not how you store passwords |
| 20:13 |
markv |
from passlib.hash import sha256_crypt as crypt |
| 20:13 |
markv |
Keep it shut |
| 20:14 |
PenguinDad |
> sha256 |
| 20:14 |
markv |
yes |
| 20:14 |
Krock |
add more salt! |
| 20:14 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 20:14 |
PenguinDad |
and pepper |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
add pepper |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
fek |
| 20:14 |
Krock |
nina'd |
| 20:14 |
Krock |
*j |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
TIL we had lavacooling sounds back in 0.4.7 |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
don't forget the garlic and onion powder |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
sfan5, already internally screaming about the bones in the lava source |
| 20:15 |
markv |
Add some cyanide |
| 20:15 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: :D |
| 20:15 |
Krock |
eh. and at least: don't forget to put in the meat! |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
fuck this |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
let's go for round 2 |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i'm not sure if we have a copy of the nodebreakers |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
or the compressors :) |
| 20:16 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: I still have both |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
!tell ecutruin https://mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR.mp4 |
| 20:16 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: I'll pass that on when ecutruin is around |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
sfan5, we should do this at the weekend |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
48 hours of LogoSkyBlock with other users as spectators :) |
| 20:16 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 20:16 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
and i may or may not make a twitch stream :) |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: more permanent link: http://meow.minetest.net/skyblock-video.mp4 |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
bonus points for meow.minetest.net |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
i got jordach.minetest.net :3 |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
:3 |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
-1 for .mp4 :( |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
i have talked to c55 about it being kept |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: vp8 a shit |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
provided i don't do anything dumb with it :) |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
I have sfan5.minetest.net too |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
mew :34 |
| 20:18 |
fling |
sfan5: I have fixed it with a stupid hack: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods -> /usr/share/games/minetest/mods |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
sfan5, vp9 then… |
| 20:18 |
fling |
sfan5: just another symlink :P |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
really, whine at VP8, but it isn't patented crap |
| 20:19 |
Jordach |
webm :3 |
| 20:19 |
* Jordach |
goes to make some coffee |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
webm is VP8 or VP9 ;) |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
it's a container |
| 20:20 |
PenguinDad |
dirac :3 |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: vp9 too slow |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
fling: <3 symlinks |
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| 20:22 |
fling |
/usr/share/games/minetest/mods/factory/settings.txt -> /etc/minetest/mods/factory/settings.txt |
| 20:22 |
* fling |
only likes this one ^ |
| 20:22 |
sfan5 |
fling: you're very dedicated into forcing every program to put files where gentoo says they should be |
| 20:22 |
fling |
I AM GENTOO |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
>gentoo |
| 20:23 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Jordach |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
paranoid idiots and masochists |
| 20:23 |
* Krock |
gives fling C: |
| 20:23 |
* VanessaE |
hands fling a "Type-R" sticker and unrolls a few loops |
| 20:23 |
Krock |
(smile) |
| 20:23 |
fling |
haha :D |
| 20:23 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: -funroll-loops |
| 20:23 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 20:24 |
* Jordach |
just goes: Dayum that's impressive |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/2aVR9Gh.png |
| 20:24 |
Krock |
aagh |
| 20:24 |
sfan5 |
mmm |
| 20:24 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: the red is not intense enough |
| 20:25 |
Krock |
once again, the white + on a red background is missing |
| 20:25 |
sfan5 |
yay |
| 20:25 |
sfan5 |
mediacrush finally processed the video https://mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR |
| 20:25 |
Krock |
(#5 doesn't count) |
| 20:25 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: here, have your .webm https://cdn.mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR.webm |
| 20:26 |
Krock |
> 0.4.7 |
| 20:26 |
fling |
Why are all the fals rotated? |
| 20:26 |
fling |
and also flipped |
| 20:26 |
sfan5 |
Krock: a year ago |
| 20:26 |
Krock |
ah |
| 20:27 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: btw: I finally worked out how to record good videos |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
sfan5, by not fucking up? |
| 20:27 |
sfan5 |
not really |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
why'd you think i make tests |
| 20:27 |
sfan5 |
by doing 2 passes |
| 20:28 |
fling |
sfan5: why do you need two passes? |
| 20:28 |
fling |
sfan5: are you encoding to an exact size? |
| 20:28 |
fling |
sfan5: why not to constant quality? |
| 20:28 |
sfan5 |
1st time, 'ultrafast' preset, saved into ramdisk; 2nd time, 'slow' preset, saved on HDD |
| 20:29 |
sfan5 |
fling: ^ |
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| 20:29 |
* fling |
is doing same thing |
| 20:29 |
fling |
but also saving ultrafast to disk too |
| 20:29 |
sfan5 |
fling: my HDD is not fast enough to save 50 fps ultrafast video |
| 20:29 |
sfan5 |
I think at least |
| 20:29 |
sfan5 |
lemme test |
| 20:29 |
fling |
because even 480p producing 50Mbps with lossless :< |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
crf 18 |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
^ said to be visually lossless |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Da9O9-Xxwnc7.png |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: press enter, jk; nice |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
I always used huffyuv if I needed lossless + fast (uses a LOT of space though) |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: tried ffv1? |
| 20:30 |
fling |
sfan5: I'm using zfs on 6 disks so it is fast enough |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
then transcode that to whatever format |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: it's been years |
| 20:31 |
sfan5 |
fling: ffmpeg -f alsa -i pulse -f x11grab -r 60 -s 1920x1080 -i + -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -preset ultrafast -tune zerolatency -async 1 -c:a copy testrecord.mkv |
| 20:31 |
sfan5 |
testing that now |
| 20:31 |
fling |
why do you need 60 fps? |
| 20:31 |
sfan5 |
hm right |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
ffmpeg can do screen recording? O_o |
| 20:31 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: ofc |
| 20:32 |
VanessaE |
didn't know that. |
| 20:32 |
sfan5 |
fling: x264 does not even manage 55 fps, I'll lower it |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
30 fps recording is pretty much enough for a game |
| 20:33 |
fling |
VanessaE: I'm streaming to justin -> http://bpaste.net/show/492090/ |
| 20:33 |
sfan5 |
ew mp3 |
| 20:33 |
sfan5 |
fling: can't you use aac too? |
| 20:33 |
fling |
and writing to a file same time |
| 20:33 |
fling |
sfan5: idk? |
| 20:34 |
fling |
btw this example is missing audio source so don't forget to add it if you need :P |
| 20:34 |
fling |
ohhhh |
| 20:35 |
fling |
no, it is there -> -f s16le -ac 2 -ar 44100 -i /tmp/mpd2ffmpeg1.fifo |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
fling, you mean twitch.tv (same service) |
| 20:35 |
fling |
Jordach: idk? |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
OBS reports it as both |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
fling: seems like my HDD is too slow for recording |
| 20:36 |
fling |
sfan5: try 24fps |
| 20:36 |
fling |
sfan5: try huffyuv btw |
| 20:37 |
fling |
or fast preset instead of ultrafast |
| 20:38 |
fling |
are you catpuring minetest? |
| 20:38 |
fling |
try capturing minesweeper :D |
| 20:38 |
sfan5 |
fling: yes |
| 20:38 |
sfan5 |
the video is twice as fast and the audio ends after half of the recording |
| 20:38 |
fling |
so you are converting fps somehow |
| 20:39 |
fling |
sfan5: try setting -r 24 _before_ -f x11grab |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
k |
| 20:40 |
fling |
this is how I capture v4l device -> http://bpaste.net/show/492120/ |
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| 20:41 |
fling |
remove -tune zerolatency ! |
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| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
fling: it quickly drops below the fps I have set |
| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
even when I set it to 30 |
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| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
fling: why? |
| 20:45 |
fling |
sfan5: use fast preset, try lower quality and remove zerolatency |
| 20:45 |
fling |
sfan5: slow cpu and disk? |
| 20:45 |
fling |
sfan5: add -threads 0 |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
threads 0 is the default |
| 20:45 |
fling |
it will use all cpu cores for x264 encoding |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
fast preset is even slower than ultrafast |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
and I don't want to use lower quality |
| 20:45 |
fling |
you need slower preset for slow disk |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
and why remove zerolatency? |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
uh |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 20:46 |
fling |
because zerolatency will increase your bitrate |
| 20:46 |
sfan5 |
the preset value specifies how long x264 will try to take to encode something |
| 20:46 |
fling |
try '-tune film' instead |
| 20:47 |
fling |
right and with slower preset it will give you lower bitrate which is needed for your slow disk |
| 20:47 |
fling |
high bitrate is no go |
| 20:47 |
sfan5 |
I'm not sure whether it will be able to encode 30 frames if it takes even longer |
| 20:48 |
fling |
anyway use atop to determine what is the bottleneck actually |
| 20:48 |
fling |
and start with -crf 50 ;D |
| 20:49 |
Krock |
http://imgur.com/gallery/LdKd0l2 |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
fling: fast preset is too slow |
| 20:50 |
fling |
increase crf, lower fps |
| 20:50 |
fling |
try -crf 30 at 24fps? |
| 20:51 |
fling |
how to get debug log on the server? |
| 20:53 |
sfan5 |
fling: same result, the 'fast' preset is simply too slow |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
crf 30 looks bad too |
| 20:54 |
fling |
try ultrafast with crf 35 at 15fps? |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
crf 35 |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
are you kidding me? |
| 20:54 |
fling |
NO |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
this is nowhere relevant anymore |
| 20:54 |
fling |
you should start with working settings |
| 20:54 |
fling |
then you increase crf |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
decrease* |
| 20:55 |
fling |
yes :> |
| 20:55 |
fling |
and encode sound with something |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9810 |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
that works |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
and looks fucking horrible |
| 20:56 |
fling |
sure :> |
| 20:57 |
fling |
sfan5: this is what I used -f x11grab -s 1920x1080 -r 24 -i :0.0 -vcodec libx264 -preset veryfast -crf 20 -maxrate 2000k -bufsize 3000k -threads 5 |
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| 21:01 |
Jordach |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfI18YIJsl4 |
| 21:02 |
* Jordach |
starts rofl |
| 21:04 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: why is that so satifying to watch? |
| 21:04 |
Jordach |
hearing someone who isn't english get more mad than me |
| 21:04 |
Jordach |
(you should hear me playing TF2 with hoodedice) |
| 21:05 |
* PenguinDad |
now starts to rofl |
| 21:05 |
* sfan5 |
rofls too |
| 21:06 |
Krock |
so viele rofelonen |
| 21:09 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Krock |
| 21:15 |
fling |
:D |
| 21:15 |
markv |
Are there 1 letter tlds? |
| 21:16 |
VanessaE |
not that I ever heard of |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
no |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
shortest is 2 letters |
| 21:18 |
markv |
:( |
| 21:19 |
markv |
Stops arguments I guess |
| 21:19 |
markv |
What If i have my own dns servers? |
| 21:19 |
markv |
On my network |
| 21:19 |
Jordach |
with your own dns, that's possible |
| 21:19 |
Jordach |
however, nobody else can use them |
| 21:20 |
Krock |
.mt! |
| 21:20 |
markv |
What if i *happen* to have access to one of the root nameservers? |
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| 21:20 |
markv |
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10488092_935622919796642_2042257437750953857_n.jpg |
| 21:25 |
VanessaE |
markv: then ICANN will want to have a talk with you. |
| 21:26 |
markv |
# rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root |
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* markv |
waits for a loud knock at his door |
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| 21:35 |
* Jordach |
knocks on markv's door |
| 21:35 |
* markv |
opens the door slowly |
| 21:37 |
* markv |
dares people to /exec -o ls |
| 21:40 |
markv |
Do you want to hear your fortune, Jordach ? |
| 21:40 |
Jordach |
nah |
| 21:40 |
markv |
You now have Asian Flu. |
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| 21:47 |
Jordach |
TIL Steam has a FUCKING MUSIC PLAYER IN CLIENT |
| 21:47 |
Jordach |
brb updating steam |
| 21:51 |
Jordach |
*unpins windows media player* |
| 21:54 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cMK_qKHu-wAr.png |
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| 21:55 |
* PenguinDad |
waits for a feature steam does not have |
| 21:55 |
Jordach |
i trust Valve more than anyone else |
| 21:55 |
Jordach |
praise Lord Gaben |
| 21:56 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, you cant trust the system |
| 21:56 |
Jordach |
okay, don't need WMP: it uses my media keys |
| 22:01 |
eugd |
Earth is 510.1 million km² |
| 22:01 |
eugd |
that should be the goal |
| 22:01 |
eugd |
in terms of world size |
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eugd |
i've been thinking about differences between minetest and minecraft, that might affect performance |
| 22:08 |
Exio |
the whole universe is practically infinite |
| 22:08 |
PilzAdam |
but Earth is boring |
| 22:08 |
Exio |
that should be a goal, and let the world be curved |
| 22:08 |
Exio |
also, change gravity |
| 22:08 |
eugd |
and i think there might be something to be said about loading the entire chunks |
| 22:08 |
Exio |
and make orbits |
| 22:09 |
eugd |
of course loading entire 64k mapsectors wouldn't be possible |
| 22:09 |
eugd |
but loading by vertical slice |
| 22:09 |
Exio |
?? |
| 22:09 |
Exio |
do you want to load a "chunk" of 64k * 16 * 16? |
| 22:09 |
eugd |
in terms of player experience, pop-in and such |
| 22:09 |
eugd |
you couldn't, i just said |
| 22:10 |
Exio |
then a vertical slice? |
| 22:10 |
eugd |
but maybe some smaller arbitrary slice |
| 22:10 |
Exio |
smaller arbitrary slice |
| 22:10 |
Exio |
i wonder if that would be actually useful, compared to a chunk? |
| 22:11 |
eugd |
just spitballing |
| 22:12 |
eugd |
i think that extremely limited height is the major difference, and what makes minecraft possibly slightly superior performance-wise |
| 22:13 |
eugd |
of course it's not desirable, but there might be some way to get the benefits without the downside |
| 22:24 |
Jordach |
WAIT WHAT |
| 22:24 |
Jordach |
Steam Music folder sorts!? |
| 22:24 |
Jordach |
and then does tags!?? |
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| 22:51 |
Jordach |
stop the presses |
| 22:51 |
Jordach |
I WAS RIGHT ABOUT RBA'S GLASS TANKS BEING SHIT! |
| 22:51 |
Jordach |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1514 |
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| 23:18 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: or...maybe there's just a glitch in the screwdriver mod? |
| 23:18 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, knowing him he hardcoded shit again |
| 23:19 |
VanessaE |
more likely is having forgotten to check if a node has some specific feature enabled |
| 23:20 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, at least i don't fuck up that bad :3 |
| 23:20 |
VanessaE |
in the case of glass, param2 controls how much "stuff" is inside the glass. |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
the screwdriver just needs a tweak to not change the param2 of something that has the glasslike-framed drawtype |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
that's all. |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
this is a bug in the screwdriver mod. |
| 23:22 |
* VanessaE |
pokes RealBadAngel |
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alket |
where can I find minetest data ? |
| 23:56 |
alket |
like textures etc. |
| 23:58 |
Partmedia |
alket, texture packs? |
| 23:58 |
alket |
Partmedia: yes :) |
| 23:59 |
Partmedia |
alket, http://www.minetest.net/texturepacks |
| 23:59 |
alket |
Partmedia: thanks :) |
| 23:59 |
Partmedia |
(if you mean the default textures, see the respective mod folders) |
