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00:21 LemonLake you guys want something really interesting to read through?
00:21 LemonLake http://www.google.com/design/spec/​material-design/introduction.html
00:21 LemonLake google's design ways never cease to impress me
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01:05 SylvieLorxu LemonLake: That is actually a very interestng read, so much important details for a designer to know
01:05 LemonLake SylvieLorxu: indeed
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01:11 LemonLake hey fling
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01:46 LemonLake omg
01:46 LemonLake it works
01:48 fling LemonLake: hello :> what works?
01:48 LemonLake my website
01:48 LemonLake the tabs actually resize
01:49 * Exio resizes LemonLake's tabs
01:50 Exio also hi hi
01:51 Exio λ-calculus ftw :D
01:51 LemonLake http://lemonlake.nuclearstorm.net/#home
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02:00 hoodedice lambda calc?
02:01 fling how to give a player a permission to turn on creative for herself but not to have it turned on by the default?
02:02 LemonLake fling: use neutral gender
02:03 hoodedice Hah Lemon
02:03 LemonLake hoodedice: ?
02:03 hoodedice "use neutral gender"
02:04 LemonLake mhm
02:04 hoodedice chide people once you've provided the solution
02:04 hoodedice not before it
02:04 LemonLake shh
02:04 LemonLake i do what i want
02:04 * hoodedice slaps LemonLake
02:05 * LemonLake grabs hoodedice by the collar and throws them into a radiator
02:05 hoodedice > he
02:05 hoodedice you know my gender
02:05 hoodedice no need to use neutral
02:05 LemonLake [03:04:45] <LemonLake> shh
02:05 LemonLake [03:04:47] <LemonLake> i do what i want
02:06 * hoodedice grabs LemonLake by the collar and throws it into a radiator
02:06 LemonLake interesting
02:06 hoodedice In the end, fling learns nothing
02:06 LemonLake this is irc
02:06 hoodedice Is creativ even a priv?
02:06 hoodedice !g minetest privs
02:06 LemonLake while one person has a solution, everyone else either reads it without answering or mentions it and goes offtopic.
02:07 hoodedice MinetestBot!
02:07 LemonLake hoodedice: is not present
02:07 hoodedice aw hell no!
02:08 hoodedice I don't think there is a creative priv
02:09 Partmedia hoodedice, yes there is :)
02:09 hoodedice fling, you can use stuff like giveme and fly and fast to mimic a creative priv
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02:26 * cheapie notices this discussion
02:27 cheapie I don't think the default inventory stuff has a "creative" priv, but I have a version that's been enhanced with it at github.com/cheapie/creative.
02:27 cheapie Also, unified_inventory has it.
02:32 Hirato good grief...
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02:50 luizrpgluiz hi
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03:35 fling cheapie: I have unified invertory
03:36 cheapie fling: OK, so the creative priv /should/ exist, as long as it's a somewhat-recent version of it.
03:37 fling cheapie: hanks
03:37 fling s/h/th/
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04:11 fling some textures are not visible on one of client boxen
04:12 fling how to fix this? ^
04:12 fling I'm running technic game on the server
04:13 fling not visible in invertory
04:13 fling might be nvidia.ko related
04:13 fling because working fine with nouveau on my box :>
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04:46 fling I'm running technic game and it has pipeworks builtin
04:46 fling but I don't see a sorting pipe
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05:42 fling 12:40:49: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ....minetest/games/technic/mod​s/default_tweaks/init.lua:58: attempt to call upvalue 'old_get_locked_chest_formspec' (a nil value)
05:42 fling http://dpaste.com/17E46AQ
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05:45 fling lol
05:45 fling happens when I open a chest
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07:02 yaman hello everyone
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07:03 yaman How would you make a node that is one thing, but when dug, drops something else?
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07:10 yaman can someone explain this for minetest.register_node
07:10 yaman on dev.minetest.com i see drop — alternatively drop = { max_items = ..., items = { ... } }
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08:17 Matsetes Ehi! Anyone who knows the technic mod?
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08:18 raffahacks I do
08:19 Matsetes I have updated it some time ago
08:19 Matsetes And I found only now that tool workshop is now intended to use mv energy
08:19 Matsetes Is it true?
08:20 raffahacks Dk
08:21 Matsetes And do you know how to craft solar panel?
08:21 raffahacks Sorry
08:21 raffahacks Always play creative :-)
08:21 ThatGraemeGuy Matsetes: tool workshop is MV, yes. And there's a #minetest-technic that's probably a better place
08:21 Matsetes Thanks!
08:22 ThatGraemeGuy Matsetes: yw
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08:54 OldCoder sfan5 see PM
08:54 * OldCoder is sleeping
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09:05 yaman hello everyone
09:05 yaman i have a modding question
09:06 yaman i have a block that i want to give the player an item when it is right clicked
09:11 sfan5 meow
09:11 sfan5 hi everyone
09:12 yaman hello
09:12 yaman can you help me with a modding question?
09:13 sfan5 yaman: use on_rightclick in the node definition
09:13 yaman yes i know but inside what do i use to give the item
09:14 sfan5 clicker:get_inventory():add_item("main", "the:item 123")
09:15 yaman thank you very much
09:15 yaman also another one
09:15 yaman how do i get a block do drop multiple items when dug
09:16 sfan5 see this line https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2329
09:17 sfan5 drop = { max_items = 999, items = { "item:1 1", "item:2 1" } }
09:17 sfan5 that should work
09:18 yaman thanks sfan5
09:24 yaman for the second question i mean multiple of the same thing also does the 1 mean how many?
09:28 yaman i got this error when running this code http://pastebin.com/sYQh1AYc
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09:31 Krock moin
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09:34 Krock http://www.passmark.com/baseline​s/V8/sigImage.php?id=26603856860
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10:12 Krock MTB??
10:20 * sfan5 meows at Krock
10:20 Amaz What is it you get now if you put a hoe on desert sand?
10:20 * Krock meows at sfan5
10:20 Amaz And is it meant to drop itself?
10:21 Krock bug then.
10:22 sfan5 Amaz: file a bug please
10:22 Amaz Okay. Pull request as well?
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10:23 sfan5 Amaz: if you want
10:23 Amaz Okay.
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10:26 Amaz Should I change the description from Desert Sand to Desert Sand Soil?
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10:27 Krock Amaz, it drops desert sand, right? so you can call it "(Hacker you!)"
10:28 Amaz Okay! Just that hoed dirt has a proper description...
10:28 Krock hacked dirt :D
10:29 Amaz Soil and Wet Soil
10:29 sfan5 <Amaz> Should I change the description from Desert Sand to Desert Sand Soil?
10:29 sfan5 yes
10:30 Amaz Okay.
10:30 Amaz To what?
10:30 Amaz Sorry.
10:30 Krock "nd to Desert Sand Soil?"
10:30 Amaz *headdesk*
10:31 Krock object acceleration is funny :D
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10:37 Amaz https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/289 I think that is as it should be...
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10:39 LemonLake Strange.
10:39 LemonLake HexChat was saving everything except the freenode settings.
10:39 BlockMen sfan5, merge it, its a fix ^^
10:39 Amaz It's in the right format and everything then?
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10:49 * Jordach meows at sfan5
10:49 * LemonLake barks at Jordach
10:49 Jordach rowr
10:49 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
10:50 Jordach hey LemonLake, going to test a Minetest Server in a VM (to test how bad BFD can get concurrently)
10:50 LemonLake Jordach: sounds good
10:51 Amaz https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10945 <-- Seems to be a spammer...
10:51 LemonLake nah
10:51 LemonLake totally a real dude
10:51 LemonLake legit
10:51 Amaz That sounds interesting Jordach.
10:51 LemonLake "really nice and informative thread thanks for sharing this with us.
10:51 LemonLake Lawn Fertilization Companies"
10:51 LemonLake legit 100%
10:52 Amaz :P
10:54 Jordach https://mediacru.sh/6bd890eacbef
10:54 Jordach fuck da po-lice
10:54 LemonLake that's one slow compile
10:54 Jordach LemonLake, -j2 (VM has two cores + 2gb of ram)
10:54 LemonLake a
10:54 LemonLake hh
10:55 Jordach not going to overkill on a MT server :)
10:57 LemonLake fuck it
10:57 LemonLake gonna get a reset.css
10:57 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
10:57 * sfan5 is a cat
10:57 * LemonLake wants to be a cat
10:57 * sfan5 transfers his being-a-cat to LemonLake
10:58 * LemonLake tries to meow
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10:59 LemonLake uhhh
10:59 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
10:59 LemonLake http://lemonlake.nuclearstorm.net/#home
10:59 * LemonLake meows back at sfan5
10:59 LemonLake i borked it
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10:59 LemonLake its all squished D:
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11:00 * Amaz likes the way it is navigated
11:00 LemonLake i do too
11:01 LemonLake (facepalm) ".p { }"
11:02 sfan5 LemonLake: loading that page takes ages
11:02 LemonLake sfan5: i know
11:03 LemonLake we're halfway through moving the apache to a linux machine
11:03 sfan5 >apache
11:03 sfan5 theres you problem
11:03 sfan5 use nginx
11:03 LemonLake yeah
11:03 sfan5 or at least lighttpd
11:03 LemonLake i'll speak to seth about it
11:04 sfan5 uh
11:04 sfan5 where is MinetestBot
11:05 Amaz Dead. :(
11:05 LemonLake dead for a while now, sfan5
11:05 sfan5 During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
11:05 sfan5 >,>
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11:06 LemonLake sfan5: bravo
11:06 LemonLake that most likely is the problem
11:06 LemonLake when seth is up, I'll talk to him about it
11:07 LemonLake bye bitch
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11:07 LemonLake hi bitch
11:08 Jordach :(
11:08 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net
11:08 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 seems to be down
11:08 Jordach hm
11:08 LemonLake cant join
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11:09 Jordach !up 86.165.127.84
11:09 MinetestBot 86.165.127.84:30000 seems to be down
11:09 Jordach hm
11:10 sfan5 WAT
11:10 sfan5 input redirction does not work for some reason
11:10 Hirato excepting exceptional exceptions
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11:11 LemonLake do you guys know the name of text where all characters are uppercase, but the actual uppercase leters are bigger?
11:11 Hirato we call that a font >_>
11:11 LemonLake yes, but what would you call the case?
11:11 LemonLake it gotta have a name
11:11 sfan5 it does
11:12 LemonLake sfan5: which is?
11:12 sfan5 i dunno
11:12 LemonLake hmph
11:13 sfan5 !up minetest.org:30018
11:13 MinetestBot sfan5: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
11:13 sfan5 lol
11:14 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30018
11:14 MinetestBot minetest.org:30018 seems to be down
11:14 sfan5 I think I need to fix !up too
11:15 LemonLake looking at a lot of typefaces they commonly have 'one' in them
11:15 LemonLake for that type of case
11:15 LemonLake though im pretty sure it has a proper name too
11:18 Jordach TIL https://cdn.mediacru.sh/rdNblxLB0yTJ.png
11:18 LemonLake what did you learn exactly?
11:18 LemonLake also, +1 for BT
11:19 Jordach Virtual Machines have their own IP space
11:19 LemonLake they do indeed
11:19 Jordach LemonLake, Fiber next year :)
11:19 LemonLake you can change that in the vmware settings if you want
11:19 LemonLake but it's wiser not to for security reasons
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11:22 Jordach [12:22:40] <MinetestBotClone> jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (603ms)
11:22 Jordach ^ LemonLake
11:22 Jordach it's working!
11:23 LemonLake I'm guessing you're on BFD
11:23 Jordach yup
11:23 LemonLake it's taking its time to dl :P
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11:27 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/8Pr1aWoXFu_R.png
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11:31 Amaz Seems to be another spammer: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=149134#p149134
11:34 sfan5 Amaz: gone
11:35 Amaz Annihilated :)
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11:47 Jordach LemonLake, F5 -> RTT = 0.xxx
11:47 Jordach going to da local McColls
11:47 VanessaE good morning.
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12:13 Jordach LemonLake, "so any server you join it'll be applied"
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12:14 LemonLake sfan5: <VanessaE> "smallcaps" is often the word for this.
12:14 * Jordach noticed why grass didn't work right
12:15 fling !up mt0.dno.so
12:15 LemonLake fling: mtb is dead
12:15 fling LemonLake: Hello.
12:16 fling RealBadAngel: Hey
12:16 Jordach well shity
12:16 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/6FBR_ldXgv15.png
12:17 Jordach the item in question sits in the same room as me D:
12:17 LemonLake lol
12:18 LemonLake "font-variant:small-caps;"
12:23 Jordach well, this makes it *hard* to fix
12:23 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/WxBBJ4wMQvIs.png
12:26 sfan5 again?
12:26 Jordach push and pull :3
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12:37 sfan5 Jordach: ping
12:37 LemonLake sfan5: redirected pong
12:37 sfan5 no u
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12:40 LemonLake sfan5: that
12:40 sfan5 huh?
12:40 LemonLake is one of the coolest ways of saying 'no u' i've ever seen
12:40 LemonLake situations to say in*
12:41 LemonLake you actually made me laugh
12:41 LemonLake well done
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12:42 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
12:42 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
12:43 fling !up mt0.dno.so
12:43 sfan5 MinetestBot?
12:43 MinetestBot mt0.dno.so:30000 is up (13135ms)
12:43 sfan5 (13135ms)
12:43 sfan5 the timeout should be 2.5 secs
12:43 sfan5 hm
12:43 fling !up mt3.dno.so
12:43 MinetestBot mt3.dno.so:30000 is up (12280ms)
12:46 sfan5 !up mt0.dno.so
12:46 MinetestBot mt0.dno.so:30000 is up (3150ms)
12:46 sfan5 seems to be just my vps
12:46 sfan5 zsh/2 1986 % ./mtup.py mt0.dno.so
12:46 sfan5 mt0.dno.so is up (0.05333s)
12:50 Matsetes How can I change my skin?
12:50 fling 0.05333s omg so close
12:51 VanessaE get a skins mod and use it
12:52 fling Is there a mod for web map?
12:52 Matsetes Ah, there is not a way to change the texture?
12:53 VanessaE Matsetes: you can just replace character.png if you want
12:53 Matsetes Ok, where can I find it?
12:54 VanessaE minetest_game/mods/default/models/character.png
12:54 VanessaE either use a mod for the purpose, or replace this file.
12:56 sfan5 fling: you mean a mod for an interactive map like dynmap for MC?
12:58 Matsetes Thanks
12:59 fling sfan5: yes :>
13:00 sfan5 https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia
13:00 sfan5 a bit outdated but works
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13:03 fling sfan5: do I just need to put more textures in there?
13:03 fling sfan5: how is it connecting to the server?
13:03 sfan5 basically yes
13:03 sfan5 it works on the map itself
13:03 sfan5 no connection
13:10 fling so it is not interactive
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13:12 * fling found this -> http://marktest.co.uk/2014/01/pyt​hon-onomatopoeia-minetest-mapper/
13:13 sfan5 fling: if a 2D map suffices, you can use https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper which is more complete
13:17 fling sfan5: will not you add isometric in future? :P
13:17 jp___ Onomatopoeia  can make isometric map.
13:17 fling jp___: I see
13:17 sfan5 maybe
13:17 jp___ not minetest-mapper
13:17 fling jp___: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2896
13:18 jp___ Already tested.
13:18 * Krock wants a new minetestmapper.exe
13:22 * CWz is tying Crevis that minetest fork that everybody hated according to  the author
13:22 LemonLake CWz: what fork?
13:22 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=9798
13:22 * Krock slaps LemonLake with link above
13:23 LemonLake oh
13:23 LemonLake I read it wrong
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13:23 CWz what version is this based on?
13:23 Krock no idea, didn't download it :P
13:24 LemonLake testing now
13:25 LemonLake have to test in wine, they don't have source
13:25 LemonLake at least not that i can find
13:26 LemonLake the font os horrible
13:26 jp___ sfan5 : if hte re-writting the MTS filter in C++,
13:26 LemonLake base game is full of texture errors
13:26 jp___ damn
13:26 LemonLake textures are inconsistent, some are even stock photos
13:27 LemonLake it's reaaalylyy lagggyyyy
13:27 LemonLake super verbose debugging
13:27 jp___ sfan5 : MCEdit must be re-written in C++ for run a C++ filter ?
13:27 sfan5 no
13:27 sfan5 you can call C(++) from python
13:27 LemonLake what was the real reason people hated it tho?
13:28 sfan5 but that wouldn't make sense
13:28 sfan5 because the map backend of mcedit is python to
13:28 sfan5 too*
13:28 sfan5 LemonLake: screenshot pls
13:28 LemonLake just closed it
13:28 LemonLake playing with wine is a pain in the ass
13:28 sfan5 open again pls
13:28 VanessaE so reopen it
13:28 VanessaE now I wanna see it.
13:28 LemonLake i caused it to crash loop
13:28 LemonLake hold up :p
13:29 jp___ sfan5 : C++/Python filter -> same perfomance ?
13:29 sfan5 yes
13:29 jp___ On MCedit I meant...
13:29 jp___ Ok.
13:29 sfan5 the C++ would need to call to get the nodes
13:29 LemonLake https://mediacru.sh/30M53Laa0zl4
13:32 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DbhaMOMp8SeD.png
13:32 sfan5 wtf is that
13:32 LemonLake a sheep
13:32 jp___ lol
13:32 LemonLake "npcs" https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ELI6FuQHd7LN.png
13:33 LemonLake also, the console is spammed with either something to do with mobs dropping into water, or 'Starting grass generation."
13:33 LemonLake the npcs have actual trading which isn't that bad
13:34 LemonLake rightclicking mobs just dumps information into console
13:34 LemonLake this is obviously not a release build
13:34 sfan5 * 56b9377 - Dont crash if facedir > 23 (12 months ago)<PilzAdam>
13:34 sfan5 seems to be pretty old
13:35 Amaz It does have diamonds and farming.
13:35 Amaz But now, they were added over a year ago.
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13:37 jp___ sfan : a .schematic file is a sort of database, right ?
13:38 sfan5 yes
13:39 jp___ http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/NBT_Format
13:39 Krock seems to be a bug: http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/skins/1/385.png (on the skin generator or in the minetest model)
13:39 Krock the feets' image should be mirrored
13:42 Krock okay. only the front has this fail
13:47 Amaz LemonLake, Where is the website for Crevis?
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13:51 Jordach Amaz - gone
13:51 Amaz Or whatever "something big" niften is getting ready for.
13:53 Amaz Jordach: Odd. In LemonLake's post, he(?) said "...And looking at your website, you're ready for something big..."
13:53 Amaz (https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=149139#p149139)
13:53 LemonLake Amaz: crevis.net
13:53 Amaz Thanks!
13:54 Amaz Seems odd.
13:55 LemonLake Krock: are you basing your vacuum cleaner off of my vacuum in factory?
13:55 LemonLake or is it going to be portable/
13:55 Krock LemonLake, from scratch.
13:55 Krock portable
13:55 LemonLake well duh
13:55 LemonLake you don't have the code
13:55 LemonLake that actualyl sounds pretty cool
13:55 LemonLake good luck
13:55 Krock it's easy to do
13:56 fling VanessaE: I have installed technic game and I can't find sorting pipe.
13:56 VanessaE it's called a mese tube, or it was
13:56 VanessaE however I don't know what technic game calls it or how up-to-date technic game's copy of pipeworks is
13:56 fling VanessaE: is pipewors mod included in technic game outdated?
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13:57 fling ohh ok
13:57 VanessaE if you need to, update your copy of pipeworks from the main repo at https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks
13:57 fling VanessaE: is it a good idea to just use minimal game and install all the mods separately?
13:57 VanessaE no
13:57 VanessaE never use minimal at all
13:58 fling what is wrong with minimal?
13:58 VanessaE minimal is not a game.
13:58 LemonLake its minimal
13:58 VanessaE it's a development test platform only.
13:58 VanessaE if you *must* build a system around a bunch of mods, build off of minetest_game.
13:59 Krock what's the fastest way to get the maximal count of a item/node/tool?
14:00 fling VanessaE: ok, thanks ;>
14:00 VanessaE Krock: read the stack_max property of that item
14:00 fling Is it possible to disable a mod loading from a game?
14:00 Krock VanessaE: minetest.registered_...??
14:01 Krock minetest.registered_items
14:01 VanessaE Krock: minetest.registered_items["foo"].stack_max  I think
14:01 Krock okay thanks
14:01 VanessaE fling: configure it so in the world config menu
14:01 VanessaE fling:  or just delete the mod from the game.
14:01 fling VanessaE: tried but unified_invertory is still loading
14:02 fling VanessaE: I don't want to modify installed files by hand, I'm doing packages here :>
14:02 VanessaE fling: I'm not sure if you can disable it another way; why do you want to disable UI?
14:02 Amaz I'm trying to compile this, https://github.com/mireq/minetest-mapper-cpp#usage How do I get an xxd binary? (Ubuntu)
14:03 fling VanessaE: just an example… I wanted to get rid of creative :P
14:03 VanessaE fling:  turn off creative mode in your main menu.
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14:04 VanessaE fling:  Main Menu -> Single Player tab, uncheck "[ ] Creative Mode".
14:04 VanessaE then UI will only show you the inventory, for use in the craft guide, it won't let you take anything from it.
14:05 VanessaE and make sure you don't have the creative privilege
14:08 Krock stackRef:get_stack_max()
14:08 Krock :)
14:08 VanessaE that works too.
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14:21 fling VanessaE: the problem was I had 'name = fling' in world.mt
14:21 fling VanessaE: I have removed it and I have no problem anymore
14:22 fling VanessaE: and looks like it is not possible to disable mods included in a game the regular way
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14:27 VanessaE fling: the regular way to disable a mod in a game is to just delete the mod.
14:28 VanessaE e.g. rm -rf minetest_game/mods/bones  or so
14:31 Krock LemonLake
14:31 Krock https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/501c47ec511c14cb34a9
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14:38 shadowzone Hi.
14:38 LemonLake Krock: nice
14:39 LemonLake but isn't the radius pretty big?
14:39 LemonLake also, why not just move them to the player position?
14:40 VanessaE rubenwardy: idea for the texture tool for NBE:  export the sides of the nodebox project as textures that one can import into GIMP and subsequently re-paint with the actual, desired textures.  Each individual nodebox face on a given side would have a different color.  You could also export a "reference" image to go with them, e.g. showing which nodebox goes with which color.
14:40 Krock LemonLake, it does.
14:40 LemonLake Krock: no, it removes them and re-adds them at the player's position
14:40 LemonLake it would be better to just move them
14:41 rubenwardy Noted.
14:41 Krock yes but then a check for invenory would needed all the tme
14:41 Krock *time
14:41 VanessaE rubenwardy: so say if you have a bunch of nodeboxes in a project and five of them are visible from the X+ side, then the X+ texture exported would have five rectangles on it in different colors.
14:41 VanessaE I think that would be the easiest possible way to handle it, with minimal work from your part.  then the user just uses their favorite paint tool to handle actually making the textures.
14:41 rubenwardy VanessaE: would it be okay to just save the exported textures as .png, and then allow the user to reimport them?
14:41 VanessaE colors in the exported image should be bright and obvious
14:42 VanessaE re-import them to where?
14:42 Krock LemonLake, at least it puts them together to stacks
14:42 rubenwardy into the editor
14:42 LemonLake ahh
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14:42 LemonLake but the engine automatically does that
14:42 VanessaE sure, as long as the textures can be edited in GIMP or so
14:42 rubenwardy btw: The texture tool is where textures are assigned to sides, and the Paint Tool is where sides are painted on.
14:42 VanessaE export, edit, re-import, repeat as desired
14:42 LemonLake well, builtin item
14:42 Krock LemonLake, only in a small range
14:43 LemonLake But you're moving them all in the same place
14:43 LemonLake so they'll stack anyway
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14:43 VanessaE rubenwardy: just trying to save some work on your part, because you know how gfx artists are - "why don't you add features X Y Z A B C to the paint tool?"
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14:49 * VanessaE thinks she caused rubenwardy to have a stroke :)
14:50 rubenwardy XD
14:50 raffahacks Hi
14:50 VanessaE hi
14:51 raffahacks Can i use minetest as an output for an lcd display
14:52 LemonLake as an output?
14:53 raffahacks Print minetest window on a lcd display on raspberry
14:53 Krock minetest -> no
14:53 raffahacks Does minetest support 480p?
14:53 Krock some sorftare or tool -> maybe
14:54 Krock minetest runs on mobile phones ...
14:54 raffahacks Really?
14:54 Hirato the way you phrased that first question makes it sound like you want a lcd_display block of sorts that displays something
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14:55 raffahacks Hirato: you're right :)
14:56 Hirato minetest for desktop compositor
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14:58 raffahacks Does it work with 480p? On android it wants 720 i think
14:58 Hirato I don't see why the main window couldn't scale down that much
14:59 VanessaE rubenwardy: compile FAIL:  [ 88%] [ 94%] make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so', needed by `bin/nodeboxeditor'.  Stop.
15:00 rubenwardy what branch?
15:00 Hirato you need to enable GLES or something
15:00 Hirato I forget the flag
15:00 Hirato it broke minetest on nvidia for a while :p
15:00 VanessaE er...  I seem to be on the texture_project branch.  how'd I end up there?
15:00 rubenwardy Either use master, or TextureTool branch :P
15:01 Hirato oh.. not testing a mobile build for him? >_>
15:01 rubenwardy master is latest stable, TextureTool is the development branch - definitely not stable, doesn't support 0.6 files yet.
15:01 sfan5 raffahacks: minetest works with any resolution, the question is whether it is usable
15:02 VanessaE rubenwardy: that failure happens on the master branch also.
15:02 rubenwardy hmmm
15:03 raffahacks Is the actual minetest for android stable?
15:03 rubenwardy Something wrong with your setup, try doing all the apt-get things again?
15:03 VanessaE lemme re-clone first.
15:03 Hirato might not perform very well, aside from that, I'm sure it's fine
15:04 VanessaE there we go.  that got it
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15:04 Sokomine raffahacks: with too few ram (512 mb, android 4.2 or something), i had some problems. with more ram, it ran smoother. but in general it's stable. the tablet i used it on was an extremly cheap one; i'm surprised that cheap thing does anything at all :-)
15:05 Hirato minetest runs pretty horridly on my desktop, can't imagine it on one of those pipsqueak phones
15:05 Sokomine mt did perform better than expected on my android devices. it felt even smoother than on some old pc hardwaere. guess the android devices had better graphics capabilities...
15:06 Hirato might be akin to my netbook, which I think gets about 5 FPS at view distance 15
15:06 PenguinDad Hello everyone
15:06 Sokomine oh, it works. the view range might be not that huge (maybe 20 blocks?), but it runs at a smooth 30 fps or so
15:07 Sokomine at least if you use it to connect to a server. and for some reasons, vanessae's spawn did give me a lot of trouble. but that was changed recently i think
15:07 raffahacks Does minetest download textures even if they are default? When i go in multiplayer it takes up to 15 minutes to download media
15:07 VanessaE raffahacks: textures are always downloaded unless the client already has them in its cache
15:07 Hirato it caches whatever it downloads, so they only get downloaded once
15:08 Hirato but really, that is kind of lame <_<
15:08 Hirato connect to server, go brew and drink 5 cups of tea, then come back as it's about to finish <_<
15:08 Calinou Hirato, which CPU/graphics card/driver?
15:08 Hirato desktop or netbook?
15:09 rubenwardy does the client still download textures even if they are replaced by a local texture pack?
15:09 Calinou desktop
15:09 PenguinDad rubenwardy: seems so
15:09 Hirato 1090T/460GTX
15:10 Calinou 140-200 FPS here on ground, 630 FPS looking upwards, 330 downwards…
15:10 Calinou the game is pretty CPU-limited here
15:10 Calinou Hirato, what's your view range?
15:10 Calinou make sure it isn't very high
15:10 Calinou put that in minetest.conf:
15:10 Calinou viewing_range_nodes_min = 100
15:10 Calinou viewing_range_nodes_max = 100
15:10 Calinou to have a fixed view range
15:10 Hirato might not be a bad idea, but I like seeing far :(
15:11 Hirato you guys should hurry up with that farmesh stuff :p
15:11 Calinou 100 is far enough
15:11 Calinou Hirato, farmesh is slow, always
15:11 Calinou both old and new implementation
15:11 Calinou Hirato, here I can go up to view range 220 and still have 60 FPS
15:11 Calinou but then I'm using 100 % of a CPU all the time
15:12 Calinou so I keep view range to 100, I really don't need more than that
15:12 Calinou disable fog maybe (F3)
15:12 Calinou lets you see a tad further, for same performance
15:12 Calinou surprising, my card's temperature doesn't increase much when disabling FPS limit, even with 600
15:13 Krock Calinou, so much numbers... I just need to know numbers 1 - 6
15:13 Hirato there's this game on steam called "Planet Explorers" that uses opencl for a lot of stuffies
15:13 Hirato fully deformable world too
15:14 * sfan5 meows at Hirato
15:14 * Hirato pets sfan5 and offers a fishy snack
15:14 * sfan5 noms the snack
15:15 Calinou OpenCL in games? hello insane idea
15:15 Hirato they did  it
15:15 * PenguinDad meows at sfan5
15:16 * sfan5 is a cat
15:16 Hirato I think they said they're using it for generating meshes or something
15:18 PenguinDad Hirato: you mean this one? http://store.steampowered.com/app/237870/
15:19 Hirato that's the one
15:19 Hirato damn is it heavy on my GPU, haha
15:21 Hirato you get to build your own things inside some sort of voxel editor
15:21 kizeren What kind of video cards will allow around 100FPS on most games for a dual core AMD cpu?
15:21 VanessaE kizeren: a really fucking fast one ;)
15:22 VanessaE really, it depends on your game settings.
15:22 kizeren Or should I ask, What would you all recommend?  Nvidia or Raedon?
15:22 VanessaE I'm happy with my R9 280X.
15:22 Hirato nvidia
15:22 Hirato without hesitation
15:22 VanessaE (which is AMD)
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15:23 Hirato whatever advantage AMD has in their hardware is moot to whatever advantage nvidia has in their driver
15:23 kizeren My desktop does about 30fps on most games but on MT it drops to about 10fps...
15:23 VanessaE kizeren: just wait.
15:23 kizeren ?
15:23 VanessaE kizeren: a lot of MT is CPU-bound.
15:23 VanessaE a faster GPU won't help too much, past a certain point
15:23 VanessaE but RBA has work he's doing to fix that
15:24 Hirato I hope that means nuking fixed function ;p
15:24 kizeren Is it the lua stuff causing so much taxaition on CPU?
15:24 VanessaE kizeren: no.  think string operations in the rendering pipeline.
15:24 Hirato it's linked against luajit, so not really
15:25 Hirato unless the use of lua is super inefficient in a way to negate the bonuses from luajit
15:25 VanessaE I wish #minetest-technic had a public log I could point you do
15:25 VanessaE to*
15:25 Hirato you don't log IRC?
15:25 VanessaE Hirato: Lua doesn't have any effect on FPS really.
15:25 VanessaE I log IRC yes
15:25 VanessaE but it's not a public log like this channel is
15:25 Krock VanessaE, it does. it controls mobs, which generate-Fps
15:25 Hirato just pastebin some of it :P
15:25 kizeren Seems like in the last month or so....the FPS bombed on MT.  So haven't played much.  Hoped that they wher ein the middle of some code optimization that broke things.
15:26 VanessaE Krock: Lua doesn't, itself, affect fps.
15:26 Krock yes
15:26 VanessaE kizeren: in the past week, it has gone WAY up
15:26 Hirato hmmm... yeah.... Lua seems to sort of run concurrently
15:26 VanessaE Krock: entities affect FPS because they're badly coded.
15:26 Krock VanessaE, don't say so, unless you can do it better :P
15:27 VanessaE Lua moves entities around but that doesn't mean Lua is affecting fps.  it means the entities are.
15:27 Calinou <VanessaE> Krock: entities affect FPS because they're badly coded.
15:27 Calinou it depends of how many polygons they're made
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15:27 Calinou I can have 1000 rats and 35 FPS :p
15:27 kizeren I know VanessaE's super extreme graphics pack cause like -100 billion FPS but other then that I though my video card was just crapping out.
15:27 Calinou no server lag
15:27 Calinou in a local game
15:27 Calinou kizeren, I have much more FPS than before
15:27 VanessaE Calinou: even a couple hundred static, non-moving simple 2-poly sign entities will drag fps down
15:27 VanessaE that is bad coding,.
15:27 Calinou before I had barely 100-120… now easily 160
15:28 Calinou that's because you have too many different entities which use transparency
15:28 kizeren Public build for Windows avaliable Calinou of the stuff your doing?
15:28 Calinou <kizeren> What kind of video cards will allow around 100FPS on most games for a dual core AMD cpu?
15:28 Calinou <VanessaE> kizeren: a really fucking fast one ;)
15:28 VanessaE Calinou: nope.  it's the string combining operations used to create them, apparently.
15:28 Calinou ehm, 750 Ti can do that I believe
15:29 Calinou kizeren, no, my stuff is Lua
15:29 kizeren ahh ok thanks.
15:29 Calinou kizeren, oh, to have more than 100 FPS, you need good single thread performance
15:29 Calinou unlikely on AMD to have that…
15:29 Exio i would say minetest has a hard time abusing the gpu and leaving the cpu "alone"
15:29 PenguinDad I didn't really notice any FPS change
15:29 Calinou except if you reduce view range
15:30 Exio Calinou, i have 100+ FPS with k-ish (50 iirc) view-range and shaders
15:30 Exio but, do we really need "100" fps?
15:30 Calinou <Hirato> you get to build your own things inside some sort of voxel editor
15:30 Calinou meh
15:30 Hirato if you want an example of a game that has a really badly done renderer, just look at starbound, barely any, uses up 2 cores fully, and only utilises the GPU 35% in its second lowest power state :p
15:30 Calinou if you play a game just to build, play Tesseract
15:31 VanessaE RBA found out why nodeboxes are so slow:  the nodebox strings/tables are interpreted nearly in realtime instead of being converted into irrlicht-suitable vectors at startup.
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15:31 kizeren Starbound is a resource hog like crazy.
15:31 Calinou Exio, 50 is pretty short
15:31 Calinou a good view range to me is 100
15:31 Exio maybe it was more, 70
15:31 Calinou VanessaE, people abuse nodeboxes a lot too
15:31 Hirato 100 is for chumps, 1000 is where it's at
15:31 Exio i don't remember :/
15:31 Exio Hirato, 10k is the way to go.
15:31 Hirato cry of the 10 SPF
15:31 Exio MPF*
15:32 VanessaE Calinou: yeah but if I read that correctly, even a single nodebox (read: a plain cube) will be far slower than a cube drawtype with exactly the same properties, because ot that
15:32 VanessaE of*
15:32 kizeren My person reason for 100+fps.  Being able to watch movies while playing MT on a dual screen.
15:32 Hirato er.... wat
15:32 Krock kizeren, if it's a 3d-movie, it's a waste
15:32 kizeren naaa plain dvd's
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15:33 Exio just telling you
15:33 VanessaE what's wrong with 3d movies?
15:33 Exio i can play "dvd-quality" movies with the VESA driver...
15:33 Krock VanessaE, <kizeren>My person reason for 100+fps.  Being able to watch movies while playing MT on a dual screen.
15:33 Krock you only have 2 eyes
15:33 Calinou maybe 3 due to working at a nuclear plant
15:33 Exio they're anything but expensive resource-wise
15:33 Krock maybe even 1
15:33 kizeren Yea I know Krock, just personal preferrence though.
15:33 Exio lol Calinou
15:34 VanessaE Krock: I have two screens also.  being able to run MT on one screen while doing something equally active on the other screen is sometimes useful.
15:34 Calinou no space for 2 screens here
15:34 Krock VanessaE, yes. but if you have an eye on each of them, you won't be able to watch 3d movies. that's my point
15:34 Exio Krock, he could have an hdmi wire plugged to the TV and may want to use his computer for playing while letting people to watch a movie
15:34 VanessaE Krock: in extreme cases, I have run as many as 25 Minetest clients at once.
15:34 Calinou 25 :o
15:34 VanessaE Krock: in routine cases, 6 or 7 at once.
15:34 Calinou my best is 3
15:34 VanessaE Calinou: yeah, 25.
15:35 Krock my best is 2
15:35 kizeren Yep, Exio.  Let kids watch movie while I play games.
15:35 PenguinDad my best is 5
15:35 Jordach Calinou, going for an nVidia 750TI
15:35 * Krock did a benchmark check today
15:35 VanessaE (that's when I had an HD6870 video card with 1GB onboard, and the same 16GB of system RAM as now)
15:36 Exio i have a gt610
15:36 VanessaE normally, I run only 1 instance, sometimes 2.
15:36 Exio anyone want it?
15:36 Exio i'm selling it for 2USD
15:36 * Krock does a roundhousekick with http://www.passmark.com/baseline​s/V8/display.php?id=26603856860
15:36 VanessaE while at the same time, my crypto mining app is running in the background.
15:36 PenguinDad Krock: did you pass the mark? (silly passmark reference)
15:36 Exio VanessaE, gpu or cpu mining?
15:36 Exio VanessaE, how much doge do you haz btw? ;P
15:36 VanessaE Exio: GPU mining, Pandacoin (PND)
15:36 Krock PenguinDad, yes. I passed it...
15:36 Exio pandacoin ahm
15:37 Krock ''c test
15:37 HLuaBot Unknown command "c". Try "help".
15:37 Krock ''calc
15:37 HLuaBot Unknown command "calc". Try "help".
15:37 PenguinDad we all should be mining mesecoins
15:37 VanessaE 11.7M PND, not sure of the equivalence in doge.
15:37 kizeren Oo wow. So many new server's to try now in the public list.
15:37 Krock ''help
15:37 HLuaBot Commands: reload, load, unload, plugins, op, deop, devoice, voice, join, part, help, uptime, echo, raw, eval, quit, more, ping, shutdown, config, tell -- Use 'help <command name>' to get help with a specific command.
15:37 Hirato ''kill yourself
15:37 HLuaBot Unknown command "kill". Try "help".
15:38 Krock kizeren, and all have the *CDP virus
15:38 VanessaE kizeren: yep, you should be playing on mine ;)
15:38 Hirato must it //notice the channel?
15:38 kizeren CDP?
15:38 Krock ..
15:38 * PenguinDad pets HLuaBot
15:38 kizeren OO i see CDP.
15:38 kizeren Never looked into what that stuff means.
15:38 Krock * empty password C reative D amage P vP
15:38 VanessaE ShadowNinja: ^^^^^^^ fix it :P
15:39 kizeren Ooo realtest is Creative now...
15:39 Krock ^^^^ with my fix
15:39 kizeren :P
15:39 VanessaE (or whoever's maintaining the master list)
15:39 PilzAdam whos that bot?
15:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: I think Nate runs it?
15:39 PilzAdam did he speak to channel operator?
15:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: it's a replacement for ShadowBot, but why it's in this channel idk.
15:40 VanessaE no wait..  it's not his... it's.. damn it who runs it
15:40 PenguinDad PilzAdam: it's ShadowNinja's bot afaik
15:40 VanessaE it is?
15:40 Exio [HLuaBot] (~LuaBot@cpe-67-241-154-164.buffalo.res.rr.com): ShadowNinja's Lua IRC bot
15:40 VanessaE oh.
15:40 VanessaE heh
15:40 Krock ''uptime
15:40 HLuaBot Up 10d, 15:26:28
15:40 PenguinDad ''lol
15:40 HLuaBot Unknown command "lol". Try "help".
15:40 VanessaE ok..  ShadowNinja ^^^^ fix the /notice thing too . :)
15:40 Exio idle 255:25:59
15:40 Exio lel
15:41 Jordach "eval print(math.random(4))
15:41 kizeren Not bad. RT server gives about 15fps.
15:41 Krock ''give sfan5 <'((((-<
15:41 HLuaBot Missing nested command closer.
15:41 Jordach "eval print(math.random(4))"
15:41 VanessaE kizeren: try Vanilla with latest git.  it will blow you away
15:41 Krock Jordach, you need a monospace font
15:41 Jordach meh
15:41 Jordach monospace sucks
15:41 Krock it's 2x single quote
15:41 PenguinDad monospace is awesome
15:41 Jordach "eval print(math.random(4))''
15:42 Krock ''eval print(math.random(4))
15:42 HLuaBot Insufficient privileges.
15:42 PenguinDad Krock: only god can do this :P
15:42 sfan5 this channel is not for bot testing
15:43 kizeren On windows 8.1 VanessaE.  No clue how to even do that stuff on windows. :)  My try my arch desktop in a bit.
15:43 kizeren -my +might
15:44 VanessaE sfan5: ^^^^^^ new build? :)
15:44 sfan5 y?
15:44 ShadowNinja VanessaE: What needs fixing?
15:44 VanessaE because kizeren needs one? ;)
15:45 kizeren Actually, can MT be done under cygwin?
15:45 sfan5 VanessaE: is it not recent enough?
15:45 sfan5 kizeren: yes
15:45 sfan5 but that won't run under non-cygwin
15:45 kizeren I am ok with that for testing.
15:45 kizeren have to use ming for a correct no cygwin build right?
15:45 VanessaE ShadowNinja: don't make the bot /notice the channel.  make it just..speak.  And the master list always passing *CDP to the public lists in the clients
15:46 ShadowNinja Hirato: Yes, see RFC1459's section on the NOTiCE command.  It's designed specifically for this purpose.
15:46 ShadowNinja VanessaE: It's intentional, to prevent bot loops.
15:46 Hirato make it notice the guy who called hte command, we don't all need to see it
15:47 VanessaE ok
15:47 PilzAdam sfan5, you could have at least tried to understand it https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/issues/1509#issuecomment-49757511
15:47 ShadowNinja Hirato: Channel commands are responded to in-channel, doing it otherwise would break showing people the output of a command.
15:48 sfan5 PilzAdam: this is a bug in your mod
15:48 Hirato -_-
15:48 PilzAdam sfan5, how could that be? it worked before 0.4.14
15:48 PilzAdam *0.4.10
15:48 VanessaE sfan5: with the old item_drop mod, dropping an item with 'q' usually causes it to just be deleted.
15:49 VanessaE (or that was my experience)
15:49 VanessaE use item_tweaks.  it works fine :)
15:49 sfan5 PilzAdam: ther might have been changes to when functions are called
15:50 sfan5 there*
15:52 kizeren VanessaE, Error "Access Violation" when joining 30005 ??
15:52 VanessaE wat
15:52 kizeren Just what the client tells me.
15:52 VanessaE that's usually some kind of memory error, totally client-side
15:53 kizeren windows, could be anything. :)
15:53 Krock kizeren, that's pointer error. try again 7 times
15:53 kizeren Oo wow, 30 to 40+ FPS...
15:53 kizeren lol @ Krock
15:54 VanessaE forget your fps, look at the view range
15:54 VanessaE well when it stops lagging.
15:54 VanessaE wtf is going on with minetest_game that's causing this lag?
15:54 VanessaE there we go.
15:55 VanessaE isn't that view range insane now?
15:55 PenguinDad Krock: http://somethingofthatilk.com/comics/2.jpg
15:55 sfan5 PilzAdam: you could at least tried to bisect what commit caused the bug
15:55 kizeren View range.  Was that the R key?
15:55 VanessaE kizeren: I mean the natural range, not the all-range mode
15:56 PilzAdam sfan5, I dont really have time for this now
15:56 VanessaE sfan5: most likely it would be the commit where RBA added the ability for the engine to auto-expire dropped items
15:56 sfan5 PilzAdam: then close the bug until you have some useful information
15:56 PilzAdam wtf?
15:57 Calinou 17:57:20: ERROR[main]: ...linou/.minetest/games/carbon​e/mods/default/functions.lua:8: stack overflow
15:57 kizeren Yes, the games does look diffferent as in far off blocks.  Stuff "appears" to look more clear now.
15:57 Calinou oh, the function called itself
15:58 sfan5 Calinou: for maximum irony ask on stackoverflow.com why that happens
15:58 VanessaE bbl
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16:06 Krock PenguinDad, oh :(
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16:27 Calinou surface acid, at the entrance of a cave
16:30 Calinou new grass side/snow side and sounds in Carbone
16:37 hmmmm woohoo
16:37 hmmmm I'm at work right now
16:37 hmmmm I'm also at home!
16:37 hmmmm I'm at my home office
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16:39 Krock hello rubenwardy!
16:40 rubenwardy Hi!
16:40 Calinou will you whine at somebody today?
16:40 * Calinou subsidiary question
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16:44 rubenwardy Me, or krock?
16:44 Calinou no, hmmm
16:45 Krock 1m
16:45 Krock +m
16:45 Jordach Calinou, SURFACE ACID?!?!?!??!?!?!
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17:15 LemonLake guys
17:15 LemonLake call me a crazyman
17:15 LemonLake running 5 cpu miners all at once
17:21 rubenwardy LemonLake: you are a crazyman
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17:21 Monkeytoe hello :)
17:23 Krock hello :(
17:23 rubenwardy Hi
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17:26 PenguinDad ): olleh
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17:29 LemonLake it's about to get worse
17:29 LemonLake 60 threads all mining at once
17:31 LemonLake pfft
17:31 LemonLake pc is just like 'yh watever'
17:33 paramat in 0.4.10 stable nodeboxes have no faces shading when smooth lighting is off, is this a bug or normal? if normal why not? could this have been fixed by RBA's recent commit?
17:33 paramat RealBadAngel ^
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17:35 Calinou test Git, not stable
17:40 Exio LemonLake, wasting cpu power
17:50 Jordach paramat, poke :3
17:54 sfan5 Jordach, poke :3
17:55 Jordach :3
17:55 * sfan5 is a cat
17:55 VanessaE back
17:56 paramat ow
17:56 * PenguinDad pets sfan5
17:57 paramat yep it's time to compile latest version
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17:57 sfan5 LemonLake: @your forum avatar: very kiss, much yuri, wow
17:57 * sfan5 purrs at PenguinDad
17:57 * LemonLake meows at sfan5
17:58 * sfan5 is a cat
17:58 * LemonLake is quite aware that sfan5 is a cat
17:59 * Sokomine puts a glass of milk in front of sfan5
17:59 * sfan5 noms the milk
18:01 * Krock give sfan5 antimilk
18:01 * sfan5 eats Krocks arm
18:01 Jordach TL;DR might add cats into BFD as another Easter Egg
18:02 sfan5 Jordach: but easter = bunnies not cats
18:02 sfan5 >.>
18:02 Jordach sfan5, easter cats :3
18:02 sfan5 :3
18:02 sfan5 meow
18:02 * Krock has only one arm now.
18:02 * sfan5 meows at Krock
18:02 * Krock eats sfan5's arm
18:02 * sfan5 is a cat
18:02 * sfan5 has no arms
18:03 * sfan5 sends Krock to /dev/null
18:03 Jordach /msg +O #minetest *@*
18:03 Jordach ^ OP RAVE
18:03 sfan5 uh
18:03 sfan5 no
18:03 * Krock eats 25% of sfan5's legs
18:03 * sfan5 kills Krock
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18:05 Jordach D:
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18:09 LemonLake google is spying on my anime tastes
18:10 LemonLake its recommending new anime to me :l
18:10 Jordach sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/spJsSAwguow4.png
18:10 LemonLake Jordach: is that wolverine?
18:10 Jordach LemonLake, notice the lack of other objects
18:10 LemonLake ah, single mesh player?
18:11 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/38HTcaB4dCRW.png
18:11 LemonLake awadafuq
18:11 LemonLake so the second image is the prototype
18:12 LemonLake where you modelled it with separate meshes, and the first one a single mesh?
18:12 Sokomine jordach: cats would be great. we don't have a cat model yet
18:12 Jordach LemonLake, i always start with a cube
18:12 LemonLake Jordach: of course
18:12 LemonLake +1 for Sokomine!
18:12 Jordach oh and btw, i WORKED OUT CUBED WATER ;D
18:13 LemonLake can see?
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18:13 Sokomine cubed water? isn't most mt water more or less cubed?
18:15 PenguinDad !c "Water" ** 2
18:15 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for ** or pow(): 'str' and 'int'
18:16 PenguinDad Jordach: how did you cube water?
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18:18 Jordach if i remember
18:22 Exio !c "wat" * "wat"
18:22 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'str'
18:23 Krock !c 'wat' * 'wat'
18:23 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'str'
18:23 Krock !c 'wat' * 2
18:23 MinetestBot 'watwat'
18:24 PenguinDad !c "Water" * 5
18:24 MinetestBot 'WaterWaterWaterWaterWater'
18:24 Amaz !c 'watwver' *100
18:24 MinetestBot 'watwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwat​wverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwver​watwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatw​verwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverw​atwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwv​erwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwa​twverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwve​rwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwat​wverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwver​watwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatw
18:25 LemonLake they're learning
18:25 Krock yup
18:26 Krock !c 'NY' + 'A' * 10 + 'N'
18:26 MinetestBot 'NYAAAAAAAAAAN'
18:26 VanessaE 22 July 2014, MinetestBot achieves sentience.
18:26 Krock :D
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18:27 PenguinDad !c "p" + "lol" * 50
18:27 MinetestBot 'plollollollollollollollollollollolloll​ollollollollollollollollollollollolloll​ollollollollollollollollollollollolloll​ollollollollollollollollollollollol'
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18:28 Hunter2451 Anyone here?
18:28 Exio !c "p" + "lo" * 15 + "l"
18:28 MinetestBot 'plololololololololololololololol'
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18:28 Krock nope. everything dead.
18:29 Hunter2451 so does minetest still get updates and such?
18:29 LemonLake Hunter2451: of course
18:29 Amaz !c 'My ' + 'name ' + 'is ' + 'MinetestBot! ' + 'And ' + 'I + 'am ' + 'GREAT!' * 10
18:29 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
18:29 Hunter2451 cool.
18:30 LemonLake !c 'My ' + 'name ' + 'is ' + 'MinetestBot! ' + 'And ' + 'I ' + 'am ' + 'GREAT!' * 10
18:30 MinetestBot 'My name is MinetestBot! And I am GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!G​REAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!'
18:30 PenguinDad !c " ".join(list(random.choice(["we", "are", "all", "dead"]) for i in range(30)))
18:30 MinetestBot 'dead we dead we all all are dead dead are are are dead dead are dead are dead all dead dead dead are dead dead we we dead dead dead'
18:30 LemonLake okay guys
18:30 LemonLake this is harsh now
18:30 LemonLake shh
18:32 Exio !c lambda(x): x+x
18:32 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
18:32 Exio how do you define and call a function
18:32 Exio !py lambda(x): x+x
18:32 Exio ?
18:32 sfan5 !c (lambda x: x*2)(5)
18:32 MinetestBot 10
18:32 sfan5 ^ Exio
18:33 Exio neat
18:33 Exio thanks!
18:33 Krock !c (lambda x: x)(5)
18:33 MinetestBot 5
18:35 PenguinDad !c (lambda asdf: asdf * asdf)(10)
18:35 MinetestBot 100
18:35 Hunter2451 I tried to start minetest and its telling me that I'm missing OpenAL32.dll... Did I forget to install something somewhere?
18:36 Amaz XD
18:36 sfan5 Hunter2451: install OpenAL
18:36 sfan5 or try the mingw builds
18:37 LemonLake sfan5: apparently the problem is just that it's on windows. when we tested it on linux, it loaded instantly. so we'll test again when the move is done, but we'll consider switching to nginx at a later date.
18:38 Krock Hunter2451, MinGw builds(and my MSVC) do not contain this fail
18:38 Krock other users also reported that
18:38 Hunter2451 Thanks.
18:39 PenguinDad > server running on windows
18:40 Krock +1
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18:40 PenguinDad this is clearly the fault
18:40 LemonLake PenguinDad: yeah
18:40 LemonLake we did have a lot of problems with it over time
18:41 LemonLake and it's an old machine, been running a few years now
18:41 LemonLake it's gone thorugh a looot :P
18:41 LemonLake we're migrating to centos within the next few weeks so things should be swell :)
18:42 LemonLake now the webserver is completely down :/ gonna have to test localhost
18:44 PilzAdam Krock, PenguinDad, ##minetestbot
18:44 sfan5 LemonLake: >centos
18:44 Exio !c (lambda f: (lambda x: f(x(x)))((lambda x: f(x(x))))) (lambda f: lambda x: x+1)
18:44 MinetestBot RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded
18:44 Exio oh true
18:44 Exio strict language
18:45 LemonLake im forbidden access to my own website :(
18:45 LemonLake sfan5: something wrong?
18:46 sfan5 LemonLake: no
18:46 LemonLake mk
18:46 Exio !c lambda x: x+1
18:46 MinetestBot <function <lambda> at 0x7fb0a26b5bf8>
18:50 Krock PilzAdam, Y U no give Exio this highlight? :(
18:51 PilzAdam I would never threaten Princess Exio!
18:51 Krock :(
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18:53 Calinou PilzAdam, haha! the lag has been doubled!
18:53 Calinou (this is totally for Krock :P)
18:53 Krock lsg?
18:53 Krock s/s/a/
18:54 Exio wat
18:55 PenguinDad taw
19:05 LemonLake bitch plsss
19:05 LemonLake i got it to work
19:10 jp___ Calinou : is there a easy way to enable only the peaceful mobs in Carbone ?
19:10 LemonLake completely delete the scary ones
19:10 jp___ I meant... like on/off - true/false.
19:12 VanessaE Sokomine: *poke*
19:12 Calinou jp___, yes
19:12 Calinou spawn_hostile_mobs = false
19:12 Calinou in minetest.conf
19:13 Calinou mobs never spawn in Creative mode BTW
19:13 jp___ Ok thx.
19:13 Calinou this doesn't remove existing monsters and makes it possible to spawn them using /spawnentity and /give
19:13 Calinou but they'll eventually despawn
19:13 jp___ I don't like these monsters... too odd.
19:14 jp___ Zombies would be better.
19:15 jp___ 7 monsters for 2 peaceful mobs... disproportion !
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19:16 luizrpgluiz hi
19:17 jp___ Hello.
19:17 Calinou zombiers are unoriginal stuff
19:17 Calinou Carbone is about monsters mostly, it's not farming simulator 2015
19:18 jp___ Zombies are mythical monsters.
19:20 jp___ I'll make a real mobs with zombies & ghosts instead of this odd panoply.
19:20 jp___ real simple*
19:20 Krock Calinou, oh noes! I thought it was!
19:27 VanessaE bbl
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19:32 nman3600 Could someone please move my mod from modding general (modname: flags, Link: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9801)
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19:32 LemonLake nman3600: nose
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19:32 LemonLake ears
19:32 LemonLake toes
19:33 LemonLake your title is incorrect
19:33 Krock nman3600, there are someflags missing. please add them to move it later
19:33 LemonLake it should be [Mod] Flags [v.1.0] [flags]
19:33 nman3600 It is.
19:34 LemonLake It's not
19:34 nman3600 Do caps matter?
19:34 LemonLake Yes.
19:34 nman3600 Serously?
19:34 LemonLake Linux users exist, Niall.
19:34 LemonLake If our folders have caps, we have to type them with caps.
19:35 LemonLake Since you reference your modpath, people would name their folder Flags and get an error.
19:35 LemonLake That's better.
19:35 nman3600 When will it be moveed?
19:36 LemonLake how about no
19:36 PenguinDad ^ Jordach
19:37 nman3600 Krock, For new flags you have to wait about a month.
19:37 Krock y?
19:38 nman3600 Each update = monthly and they contain new flags.
19:38 nman3600 It's how I've decided it
19:38 nman3600 I only uploaded the mod this morning so I'm not updating now.
19:38 Krock okay, today's the 22th
19:38 nman3600 15th of next month I will release the next update.
19:38 Krock 10 days
19:38 Krock oh
19:39 LemonLake Krock: what flag do you want?
19:39 nman3600 Or 10th
19:39 Krock sitzerland!
19:39 LemonLake okie dokie
19:39 Krock +w
19:39 LemonLake that one's easy because it's actually square :P
19:39 * PenguinDad sits on sitzerland
19:40 Krock :<
19:40 * sfan5 meows at Krock
19:40 PenguinDad :E
19:40 * Krock meows at sfan5
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19:40 sfan5 fun fact: 153207 nodes have been modfied on my server (meowtest)
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19:41 nman3600 Switzerland flag eh?
19:41 nman3600 Krock ^
19:41 Krock no. sitzerland, to sitz on
19:42 nman3600 The swiss flag will be In the next update.
19:42 PenguinDad lol I just read blank flag as blank flank
19:42 nman3600 Lol MLP Referance
19:43 * Krock doesn't get it
19:43 Calinou flank = the side of a pony
19:43 nman3600 :D
19:43 Jordach PenguinDad, eh
19:45 PenguinDad Jordach: nman3600 want this moved https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9801
19:46 Jordach ah
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19:47 nman3600 Halo!
19:47 PenguinDad tvshow& MLP;
19:47 Halo nman!
19:47 PenguinDad ^ MLP Reference
19:50 nman3600 Krock, You will get a screenshot of the swiss flag In a min.
19:51 Jordach moved very very slowly
19:51 Jordach very slowly
19:51 nman3600 Ahh Thanks, Jordach.
19:54 Calinou PenguinDad, I don't get that reference :P
19:54 nman3600 Anyone have a flag suggestion for my new flags mod?
19:56 nman3600 Calinou, Jordach, PenguinDad, Have a Flag suggestion for my mod?
19:57 PenguinDad nman3600: flag of nepal maybe
19:57 nman3600 Is that a country, PenguinDad?
19:58 PenguinDad nman3600: yes it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal
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20:00 Exio ...
20:01 shadowzone Hi.
20:02 PenguinDad hi shadowzone
20:02 shadowzone Hi PenguinDad.
20:03 shadowzone I came to see if anyone was on.
20:03 shadowzone And I am in the freenode neighborhood.
20:06 Calinou flag of Equestria
20:06 Amaz sfan5, Is your meowtest server public?
20:06 sfan5 Amaz: yes
20:07 shadowzone HI Calinou, How are you doing?
20:07 nman3600 Calinou, Make me a flag of equestria teture and I'll add it.
20:07 Amaz Does it appear on the public server list?
20:07 Amaz Got it.
20:11 Amaz Things seem to be a little, mad.
20:12 PenguinDad Amaz: the creature spawning goes mad there a bit
20:12 Amaz I meant the players as well...
20:13 Amaz But the mobs are also mad.
20:15 Calinou shadowzone, hi, fine
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20:52 PenguinDad !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30007
20:52 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30007 is up (98ms)
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20:56 shadowzone Which server is that?
20:57 luizrpgluiz anyone here know how to make mods?
20:57 shadowzone Me but not very well.
21:00 luizrpgluiz which mod you've ever done?
21:00 shadowzone I have only made one a girlygirl mod cause I am a girl.
21:01 shadowzone I have to post it on GitHug yet.
21:01 luizrpgluiz ^_^
21:01 shadowzone *GitHub
21:01 luizrpgluiz My English is bad, I use a translator because I'm Brazilian
21:02 shadowzone Ok.
21:02 shadowzone But I sorta know how to make mods.
21:02 luizrpgluiz I do not know where do I start
21:03 shadowzone well for me I go to the mods folder in .minetest/mods/<name of the mod you want to make>
21:03 shadowzone Then make a folder called textures
21:07 Jordach ok
21:07 Jordach when did VanessaE get a dog
21:07 shadowzone Jordach a While ago.
21:07 shadowzone why?
21:07 Jordach i just noticed
21:08 VanessaE his name is Dandy.  Some kind of chihuahua mix says the local shelter (we brought him by to have him checked for presence of a 'chip', and to check for lost pet reports before taking him in)
21:09 shadowzone VanessaE were there any?
21:09 VanessaE nope.
21:09 VanessaE no chip and no lost pet reports matching him
21:10 Jordach pic for the interested https://cdn.mediacru.sh/E9qcB5pYvwwf.png (with redactions :3 )
21:10 VanessaE you didn't have to blank out Abe's info :P
21:10 Jordach VanessaE, courtesy :P
21:10 Jordach i ain't *that* mean
21:11 VanessaE he's very loving
21:11 shadowzone VanessaE he is adorable.
21:11 VanessaE and holy-shit-loud too :)
21:11 shadowzone I betcha those little dogs tend to be.
21:12 Jordach tl;dr i need to stop playing TF2 https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Psd-6raZ4QkP.png
21:12 Jordach 12 hours this week along
21:12 Jordach alone*
21:12 shadowzone Jordach yes you do..
21:12 VanessaE jesus
21:13 Jordach <- TF2 item worth is more than ~£140
21:13 Jordach one of my weapons is £42 on the market :P
21:17 Krock an other fork: https://github.com/SmallJoker/boost_cart
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21:21 * Jordach pokes VanessaE for the apt-get liner for LuaSocket
21:22 VanessaE ow.
21:22 VanessaE I don't remember it actually
21:22 Jordach ShadowNinja, ^
21:22 VanessaE but it should be mentioned in the IRC mod's readme
21:22 Jordach it isn't
21:22 Jordach only for arch
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21:22 Jordach and who the fuck uses arch
21:22 VanessaE heh
21:22 VanessaE actually...
21:23 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1512
21:23 shadowzone Not meh.
21:23 VanessaE Microchip does. :)
21:23 * shadowzone goes and downloads arch into a flash drive and tries it out.
21:23 VanessaE shadowzone: don't.
21:23 VanessaE just don't.
21:23 shadowzone Ok.
21:24 VanessaE only the patently insane use Arch ;)
21:24 shadowzone ok I'd like to keep my sane.
21:24 * Jordach wonders if ShadowNinja's HLuaBot is a Minetest instance
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21:26 VanessaE anyway, for me it would be lua-socket-dev
21:26 VanessaE for debian, I compiled it from sources
21:26 VanessaE I thinbk
21:26 VanessaE think*
21:29 PenguinDad Jordach: something for you https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/290
21:29 Calinou <Jordach> 12 hours this week along
21:30 Calinou you don't get items for > 10 hours a week
21:30 Jordach PenguinDad, Calinou: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/23ho0h8aQanh.png
21:36 Calinou lol
21:36 Calinou Mousepad, lol
21:36 Jordach i just noticed bullshit
21:36 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/dHSDTWdlX7jv.png
21:36 PenguinDad is this post-postmodern art?
21:36 Jordach >7% cpu usage with a active VM with mobs and shitr
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22:47 LemonLake yo, can you guys help me make sense of this?
22:47 Exio (define Y (λ(f)((λ(x)(f (x x)))(λ(x)(f (x x)))))) !
22:47 LemonLake http://pastie.org/pastes/9413377/text
22:47 LemonLake what exactly am i looking at for my cpu temperature here?
22:48 VanessaE you're looking at either a fan that's in "cool n' quiet" mode, or a heat sink that needs fixed up, or a bad formula on your fan measurement.
22:48 LemonLake VanessaE: i mean, what value is my cpu temperature?
22:49 LemonLake and what do you mean? :o
22:49 VanessaE well temp1 is probably the motherboard's thermistor under the CPU, "CPU temperature" is probably the CPU's own onboard thermometer
22:49 LemonLake so +55.0C?
22:49 VanessaE I'd go with the higher of the two
22:50 LemonLake that's cooler than expected :o
22:50 VanessaE why it's that hot to begin with is another question
22:50 LemonLake im running 60 threads on minerd
22:50 LemonLake that's why :P
22:50 VanessaE don't bother CPU mining.
22:50 VanessaE it's a waste of power.
22:50 VanessaE use your GPU or buy an ASIC of some sot.
22:50 VanessaE sort*
22:50 LemonLake well I can't get my GPU to mine properly the majority of the time
22:50 VanessaE and don't run so many threads
22:50 LemonLake it lasts for a week from a factory install before it breaks beyond repair unless factory install
22:51 VanessaE you're wasting resources there, too
22:51 VanessaE just run #cores + 2
22:51 LemonLake i'm not using my pc :p
22:51 Jordach OH SHIT
22:51 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/111100/
22:51 VanessaE Jordach: old bug, already fixed I think
22:52 Jordach ehm, latest git here
22:52 LemonLake VanessaE: #cores + 2?
22:52 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1423
22:52 VanessaE LemonLake: yes.
22:52 LemonLake oh i see
22:52 VanessaE however many cores you have in the machine, that number + 2
22:52 LemonLake let's compare
22:52 VanessaE so 6 cores, 8 threads.
22:53 LemonLake currently getting 60 khash/s, let's see how much with 6 threads
22:53 VanessaE anything more is just spanking your OS scheduler which is wasting resources and lowering your hashrate
22:53 LemonLake really? it made it higher for me
22:55 LemonLake i wonder if i should let this mine overnight....
22:56 LemonLake the sound of the fan would probably prevent me from sleeping, but then again, i've fell asleep numerous times while rendering at 2 in the morning
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22:57 VanessaE my three machines mine 24/7
22:57 VanessaE (two using their GPUs, one using a handful of Gridseed orbs)
22:57 LemonLake i only have the one machine, stop making me jealous >.<
22:58 LemonLake with 6 threads, I'm getting 5 khash/s
22:58 LemonLake no accepted shares yet
22:58 VanessaE 5 kH/s *per thread*
22:58 LemonLake nope
22:58 LemonLake total
22:58 VanessaE strange.  minerd is usually pretty accurate about reporting its total hashrate
22:59 VanessaE how many cores in this machine?
22:59 LemonLake 4
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23:01 LemonLake worker is no longer reporting as active :/
23:01 VanessaE that can't be good :)
23:01 VanessaE you bwoke it!
23:01 LemonLake yep
23:02 LemonLake hmm
23:02 LemonLake i'll run it at a higher amount of threads for now but when i go to sleep i'll turn it down to like, 4, to conserve power
23:04 LemonLake 14khash/s, that's chill with me for now
23:06 Jordach wat
23:06 Jordach >subgame not found
23:06 Jordach it fucking exists in the games dir
23:07 VanessaE but is it the *right* games dir? :)
23:07 Jordach yes it fucking is
23:07 LemonLake calm down Jordach
23:07 VanessaE whoa, watch out..  we got a badass here.
23:07 VanessaE ;)
23:07 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/TMV6cZl51DF7.png
23:08 * VanessaE backs away slowly.
23:08 VanessaE Jordach: check the game.conf
23:08 LemonLake Jordach: wrong directory
23:08 LemonLake wait, nope
23:08 LemonLake i just cant read
23:08 LemonLake ø.ø
23:09 Jordach VanessaE, gameid is the folder name
23:09 VanessaE Jordach: RUN_IN_PLACE ?
23:09 Jordach 1
23:09 VanessaE hm
23:09 Jordach and this is the latest commit from master
23:09 LemonLake now that's weird
23:10 Jordach VanessaE, compile yourself
23:10 Jordach it was running earlier btw
23:11 VanessaE ok, I will. :P
23:12 VanessaE mind you, I call it with --gameid to start my servers
23:12 VanessaE but I don't use RUN_IN_PLACE
23:12 LemonLake what does it do if you dont run in place?
23:12 LemonLake run from the directory you call the process?
23:12 Jordach i never used it
23:13 Jordach and --world world doesn't detect a subgame either
23:14 LemonLake jordach
23:14 LemonLake ls the games folder, pls
23:14 LemonLake and screenshot
23:14 VanessaE Jordach: works for me, at least with R_I_P=0 anyway
23:14 Jordach VanessaE, try without
23:14 LemonLake you shall not rest in peace
23:15 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PCogTk-8bfAM.png
23:15 LemonLake okay, now im really confused
23:15 VanessaE ok trying with =1
23:16 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Nj0FAnvsP_g0.png
23:16 Jordach SOMETHING is broken
23:16 LemonLake Jordach: works for me
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23:17 LemonLake Jordach: do you have some weird characters in the world file?
23:17 Jordach no
23:17 LemonLake check
23:17 VanessaE Jordach: works for me.
23:18 Jordach VanessaE, this is strange
23:18 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/L7AF40la2m88.png
23:18 LemonLake Jordach: it worked earlier no?
23:18 Jordach LemonLake, it did
23:18 LemonLake what have you done since then?
23:18 VanessaE only errors I get are for a mod I uninstalled from this world earlier (I copied the whole world folder over) and a warning that I called for a game that's different from what the world wants
23:19 VanessaE (dreambuilder_game versus just dreambuilder)
23:19 SylvieLorxu Jordach: >Xubuntu
23:19 SylvieLorxu That's your problem
23:19 VanessaE but it finds it without problems in minetest_core/games
23:19 SylvieLorxu You should obviously install Gentoo
23:19 VanessaE SylvieLorxu: I use Xubuntu.
23:19 LemonLake ^
23:19 VanessaE FAIL.
23:19 Jordach LemonLake, removed the other folders that are part of minetest
23:19 LemonLake Jordach: what folders?
23:19 Jordach leaving games and worlds behind
23:19 SylvieLorxu VanessaE: Jordach linked the image :P
23:19 LemonLake hm
23:19 LemonLake and then recompiled?
23:20 * VanessaE restores her usual settings now.
23:20 Jordach LemonLake, yes
23:20 Jordach removed all folders bar those two
23:20 LemonLake that really is strange
23:20 Jordach (it's almost if it's hardcoded to minetest_game)
23:20 LemonLake remove bfd completely
23:20 LemonLake and add it again
23:20 VanessaE Jordach: like I said, it's working fine with and without run-in-place.
23:21 * Jordach make cleans and tries again
23:22 LemonLake VanessaE: gonna try to get the cgminer working
23:23 VanessaE that's what I use to run my gridseeds.
23:23 LemonLake could you show me your cmd to run it?
23:24 LemonLake cmd/conf
23:25 VanessaE see pm
23:25 LemonLake din get pm
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23:25 LemonLake did get pm
23:25 Jordach new git zip, new folder
23:27 Exio zipWith
23:27 Exio :D
23:29 Jordach nope, same issue
23:29 Jordach does not want to detect
23:30 Jordach doesn't even want to find minimal
23:33 Jordach dafuq
23:34 Jordach creating a new terminal seems to have done it
23:34 LemonLake maybe it was a permissions thing?
23:34 Jordach nah
23:36 Jordach VanessaE, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/4pBAvIQ3DCVa.png
23:36 Jordach placing a chest causes add_node bugs
23:36 Jordach which it shouldn't
23:37 Jordach *ejects builtin_item*
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23:39 Jordach this appears to be broken https://cdn.mediacru.sh/4pBAvIQ3DCVa.png
23:39 Jordach derp
23:39 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/AYxgRG3sGtnT.png
23:40 paramat "in 0.4.10 stable nodeboxes have no faces shading when smooth lighting is off [...] could this have been fixed by RBA's recent commit?" answer is yes, tested latest version
23:41 Jordach hmmmmmmmmm, might have found it
23:41 Jordach since RBA's commit for that facedir change
23:42 Jordach the server doesn't like mods checking a node's param2 via minetest.get_node(pos).param2
23:42 VanessaE Jordach: I have no trouble doing that in my code.
23:43 Jordach VanessaE, strange
23:43 VanessaE lots of my mods do stuff like node = minetest.get_node(pos); fdir = node.param2
23:43 VanessaE (well, local on both)
23:43 Jordach VanessaE, it doesn't work here
23:43 VanessaE wfm :)
23:44 Jordach i wonder if legacy_facedir_simple is busted
23:44 VanessaE none of my mods use that old setting
23:44 Jordach still in add_node
23:44 Jordach with or without
23:46 Jordach it's like add_node is broken
23:47 * Jordach tries locally
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23:48 Jordach boom
23:48 Jordach happens locally
23:48 shadowzone Hi.
23:50 paramat hmmmm, http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-07-19#i_3822026
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23:55 crazyR VanessaE: would happen to know how i can lower the text on signs in the signlib of homedecor?
23:55 crazyR *would you
23:57 LemonLake im off
23:57 LemonLake night
23:57 Jordach GOTCHA YOU SUNS A BITCH
23:57 VanessaE crazyR: space-enter
23:58 VanessaE crazyR: as in press a space and then enter to force a blank line
23:58 * shadowzone looks at VanessaE "Do you have a pepsi?"
23:58 VanessaE shadowzone: I don't drink sugar water.
23:58 shadowzone Oh ok.
23:58 Jordach ahh
23:58 Jordach hah
23:59 Jordach thanks to the chests bugging out, i got free chests
23:59 crazyR no i mean in the code. like ive modified the texture, but the text start verry slighly to high
23:59 crazyR *too high
23:59 VanessaE crazyR: OH, yeah, the tables at the start of the file
23:59 VanessaE change the Y values in the corresponding table for your sign

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