IRC log for #minetest, 2014-07-20

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01:10	LemonLake	goodnight quietest irc chan known to man
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01:30	Sokomine	anyone feeling like testing something? it'll be short i think
01:32	Eater4	What is it?
01:33	Eater4	Sokomine: what is it?
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01:35	Sokomine	a small experiment with snow. it annoyed me that snow looks bad on nodeboxes. i don't have a solution for all situations...just for a selected few (stairs and such)
01:35	Sokomine	see here: https://github.com/Sokomine/moresnow  feedback welcome
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03:26	us`0gb	What do you think about having a server that is by invite only? Basically, it would be a server that doesn't advertise to the centralized server list, so to find it, you would need to receive an invite from someone who knows about it (anyone who knows can invite).
03:26	us`0gb	(I'm trying to find a good antivandal mechanism.)
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03:52	MinetestBot	GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Remove vector assertions 33ca115 2014-07-19T23:50:50-04:00 http://git.io/Hay4lQ
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07:38	fling	Which mod to use for irc?
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08:50	Calinou	screenshot_path = /home/calinou/Images/Minetest
08:50	Calinou	I just realized this makes sense
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09:00	Calinou	fog becomes atrociously intense on Freeminer :x but view range is the same
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09:09	Krock	moin
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09:47	TenPlus1	Hi folks...  does anyone know of a way to re-colour TEXTAREA formspec background, opacity and text colours ???
09:48	sfan5	I don't think there is a way to do tha
09:48	sfan5	t
09:48	TenPlus1	shame...  any way of sneaking it into the next release :)
09:49	sfan5	open an issue at github
09:49	TenPlus1	*shudder*...  will try... every time I use github I end up forking a mod or summit :P
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09:50	TenPlus1	HI LemonLake, like the latest updates btw :0
09:50	LemonLake	TenPlus1: Hello
09:51	LemonLake	Latest updates?
09:51	TenPlus1	factory mod updates
09:51	LemonLake	ah, I see
09:52	LemonLake	that's good
09:52	TenPlus1	sorry, latest midori kinda stalled for a sec there
09:52	TenPlus1	the factory machines work quite well...  am surprised you havent added the Dispenser and Hopper from Minecraft into there :P
09:53	LemonLake	the takers kinda fling them out if they have no input, but not very far
09:53	LemonLake	that might be something interesting to add, however there is the issue of velocity/acceleration not going down by themselves, a really annoying mt bug
09:54	TenPlus1	ahh, am sure you'll find a way around it...
09:54	LemonLake	as for hopper, that's technically been added too
09:54	TenPlus1	the Pneumatic Taker ?
09:54	LemonLake	yes
09:54	LemonLake	and the Mover
09:54	TenPlus1	good point...
09:55	TenPlus1	was gonna place one at spawn area so when ppl die, all their stuff gets sucked up :P
09:55	LemonLake	while it only goes sideways, it can be worked around just like everyone had to work around hoppers not being able to go up in MC
09:55	LemonLake	hehe
09:55	LemonLake	I was thinking of making a vacuum, actually
09:55	TenPlus1	MT is getting quite rich in mods now...   vacuum as in hoover ?
09:55	Krock	people start wondering how to get the air sword
09:56	TenPlus1	lol
09:56	* TenPlus1	has one
09:56	* Krock	too
09:56	LemonLake	air sword?
09:56	TenPlus1	ehehehe
09:56	LemonLake	you mean wieldhand?
09:56	TenPlus1	:)
09:56	Krock	LemonLake, your brother asks me how to get the air to craft it
09:56	Krock	:3
09:56	LemonLake	Krock, brb, killing him
09:56	Krock	...
09:57	LemonLake	there we go
09:57	TenPlus1	weirdly enough in making the Crystal Shovel for Ethereal the first release somehow nabbed an air-block and it called me a hacker :P aha
09:59	Krock	I <3 aisword
09:59	Krock	+r
10:00	LemonLake	jesus
10:00	LemonLake	i nearly actually killed him
10:00	TenPlus1	lolz
10:00	* Krock	also loves deals like 10 copper for 1 cobble brlock
10:00	Krock	*copper block
10:00	LemonLake	he's been playing the game for a few months more than me, im surprised he didn't know this
10:01	LemonLake	TenPlus1: vacuum that sucks up nearby items
10:01	TenPlus1	ahh yes, that would be ideal...  I'd definitely use that on server
10:02	TenPlus1	Krock: Just added the old money mod and ppl are enjoying making their own Shops and Trade Chests with weird deals like that for noobs
10:02	Krock	:3
10:02	* Krock	has his own money mod
10:03	TenPlus1	which one /
10:03	LemonLake	bitchange
10:04	TenPlus1	sweet, will check it out...
10:04	LemonLake	it's actually really good
10:04	TenPlus1	money mod was made in 2012...  still works but could do with a remake
10:05	TenPlus1	wow, looks very interesting...
10:06	VanessaE	good morning.
10:06	Calinou	“bitchange” meh
10:06	TenPlus1	lol @ Calinou
10:06	TenPlus1	hi VanessaE
10:06	Calinou	hi TenPlus1
10:06	Calinou	TenPlus1, protector formspec is buggy, you can't escape it
10:06	VanessaE	hi all
10:06	LemonLake	VanessaE: おはよう ございます！
10:06	Calinou	client seems to enter it hundreds of times
10:07	Calinou	client should deny all further formspecs for 1 second after exiting one…
10:07	TenPlus1	That's why their is a BACK button added to the Protector Redo mod
10:07	TenPlus1	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9376&amp;hilit=protector+redo
10:07	Calinou	oh
10:07	Calinou	I'll add it back
10:08	TenPlus1	protector mod is good but the formspec did annoy many ppl...  that's the only reason I redid the mod
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10:08	TenPlus1	ooh, speaking of which... VanessaE did you see the post re: table tops on homedecor ?
10:08	Calinou	Carbone has protector mod too
10:08	Calinou	heavily improved :d
10:08	Calinou	good legit crafting recipe
10:08	Calinou	25 × 25 × 25 area
10:09	TenPlus1	ah sweet, gotta check it out :)
10:09	TenPlus1	the redo mod only has new formspec and adheres to is_protected check in minetest...
10:10	* Calinou	needs to redo ore block textures :'(
10:10	Calinou	probably just pick the new oens from minetest_game
10:11	TenPlus1	I like the new textures apart from cobble, it's kinda flat lookin'
10:11	LemonLake	TIL 'ohayou' is actually spelt using a kanji: お早う
10:12	TenPlus1	Calinou: did you see the protector signs in the redo ? can be placed on any block to kinda hide it
10:16	Calinou	yes, but I removed them for simplicity's sake
10:16	Calinou	protection shouldn't be obscure in general, but you can bury the blocks anyway
10:16	Calinou	TenPlus1, new tools look like crap
10:16	Calinou	it looks like Carbone will keep old tool textures for the foreseeable texture
10:16	Calinou	(I improved the swords too)
10:16	Calinou	swords are actually thin now
10:16	Calinou	they aren't a big plane of wood/stone/whatever striking enemies
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10:18	TenPlus1	am getting "could not process soil information of node air" when using carbone and ethereal together... any ideas why ?
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10:19	Calinou	Inocudom reported that too
10:19	Calinou	I use the latest farming mod
10:19	Calinou	I could remove that error message for now
10:19	TenPlus1	I've tested with the latest farming also but haven't seen those errors...
10:20	TenPlus1	have you changed the farming/flower mod any for Carbone ?
10:20	Calinou	yes, growing ABMs use consistent times
10:20	Calinou	30 seconds for all, usually
10:21	TenPlus1	hrm, that wouldnt cause an error...   lemmie re-test a few things...  I tend to run farming redo for growing
10:24	Calinou	committed
10:27	TenPlus1	errors happen every 40 seconds.. .might be the flowers spreading
10:28	TenPlus1	nope
10:28	LemonLake	http://pastie.org/9406936
10:28	LemonLake	Have I done this right?
10:29	Calinou	12:28:58 [:~/.minetest/games/carbone/mods] master ± grep -r "soil info"
10:29	Calinou	farming/nodes.lua:--minetest.log("error", "Could not process soil information of node " .. nn .. ".")
10:29	Calinou	nothing else about soil information
10:29	Calinou	TenPlus1, which mods do you have?
10:29	Calinou	any that overrides a mod in Carbone?
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10:30	TenPlus1	all I'm running is a Carbone world using v7 mapgen and Ethereal mod... that's it
10:30	LemonLake	Calinou: you know about protection mods etc, right? I can't really test one so I can only guess my code works
10:33	Calinou	:o surface acid, from an overhang, flowing on sea
10:33	LemonLake	wow
10:34	TenPlus1	Calinou: checked Ethereal dirt types and all have soil=1 flag which changes to soil=2 or 3 when farming in use...  I dunno why your farming mod is giving an error
10:34	Calinou	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wtojT06OAQBo.jpg
10:35	TenPlus1	am I missing a group name ?
10:35	TenPlus1	wow, nice one... aceeeeeed
10:36	LemonLake	Is there a way to load chunks via a mod?
10:37	Calinou	46-block high plateau
10:37	Calinou	force-loading, LemonLake, but it's limited
10:37	PenguinDad	LemonLake: force-loading
10:37	Calinou	lots of cut-out jungle trees
10:37	LemonLake	limited?
10:37	Calinou	bye
10:37	Calinou	may be slow
10:37	Calinou	only a few blocks by default
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10:38	LemonLake	also, is the pos in forceload_block a node pos or block pos?
10:41	LemonLake	anyone?
10:42	TenPlus1	couldn't say LemonLake
10:42	LemonLake	well it seems to have no effect
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10:44	TenPlus1	LemonLake do you have a protection mod running alongside your testing ?
10:44	LemonLake	not running
10:45	LemonLake	my miners work swell for ~80 nodes
10:45	LemonLake	then they stop
10:45	TenPlus1	they prolly go outside the active area around the player
10:45	LemonLake	node.name doesn't even equals ignore
10:45	LemonLake	so they're loaded just fine
10:45	TenPlus1	need to up that in the minetest.conf file
10:46	LemonLake	hm
10:46	LemonLake	the abm never runs
10:46	LemonLake	well, the abm doesn't run, or my for loop reaches the limit very prematurely
10:47	VanessaE	LemonLake: that's active block range
10:47	TenPlus1	if you are testing for is_protected you need to make sure a protection mod is loaded otherwise the command will do nothing but return false
10:47	LemonLake	but I'm standing right on top of the node?
10:47	LemonLake	no, the abm dies after the miner has dug 80 nodes
10:47	LemonLake	oh i see
10:48	LemonLake	they just got turned off for a strange reason
10:48	TenPlus1	in the default game, is_protected does nothing, it's just there for checking... you need to load a suitable mod to make is_protected work
10:48	LemonLake	TenPlus1: is_protected works fine
10:48	LemonLake	the issue was that the ignore check was strangely skipped
10:49	TenPlus1	ah
10:49	LemonLake	and then it reached the diggable check, thus turning the miner off because ignore is not diggable
10:50	LemonLake	okay, forceloading works
10:50	TenPlus1	kl
10:50	LemonLake	i need to return after loading the block, because otherwise it's not diggable
10:51	LemonLake	it works! :D
10:51	TenPlus1	:) what did u change
10:51	LemonLake	I wasn't forceloading, so when it reached 'ignore' the miner turned off (it has an off state)
10:52	VanessaE	oh no, LemonLake made something work. :)
10:52	LemonLake	But after forceloading, 'ignore' still existed
10:52	LemonLake	so again, it switched off
10:52	LemonLake	solution was to simply return after forceloading, and then give the miner a jumpstart using a mesecons lever
10:54	TenPlus1	minetest will soon have a huge industrial sector running on servers :p
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10:59	sfan5	!title
10:59	sfan5	:/
10:59	sfan5	seems like about everything is broken
11:00	LemonLake	can it still calculate 9**9**9?
11:04	Krock	MinetestBot!
11:04	MinetestBot	Krock!
11:04	Krock	but it's FAST
11:04	PenguinDad	!c "meow"
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11:06	LemonLake	sfan5: why not multithread it?
11:06	sfan5	it is
11:06	LemonLake	i see
11:06	sfan5	<3 MinetestBot
11:06	MinetestBot	<3 sfan5
11:06	sfan5	!c 1
11:07	MinetestBot	1
11:07	sfan5	LemonLake: try now
11:07	LemonLake	try what?
11:07	sfan5	<LemonLake> can it still calculate 9**9**9?
11:07	LemonLake	!c 9**9**9
11:07	MinetestBot	LemonLake: Kindly go fuck yourself!
11:07	LemonLake	MinetestBot: no u
11:07	PenguinDad	:D
11:07	LemonLake	is it timed or something? there was a delay?
11:07	VanessaE	HAH
11:07	sfan5	LemonLake: 2 seconds
11:07	LemonLake	icey
11:07	sfan5	MinetestBot now ignores you too
11:08	LemonLake	bitch
11:08	VanessaE	nice touch, sfan5  :D
11:08	sfan5	:D
11:08	LemonLake	!c "unignore" + "LemonLake"
11:08	LemonLake	cunt
11:08	sfan5	!unignore *!*@host109-150-245-159.range109-150.btcentralplus.com
11:08	MinetestBot	sfan5: '*!*@host109-150-245-159.range109-150.btcentralplus.com' removed from ignore list.
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11:09	PenguinDad	!c "meow"
11:09	MinetestBot	'meow'
11:09	PenguinDad	<3 MinetestBot
11:09	MinetestBot	<3 PenguinDad
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11:09	LemonLake	my ip has changed ø.ø
11:09	LemonLake	it's not usually in that range
11:10	Krock	Verstrichene Zeit 00:22:55.06
11:13	TenPlus1	cya folks
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11:41	crazyR	hi all, is it possible that a slow harddrive IO speed could cause corruption within a leveldb map?
11:42	LemonLake	i know that a magnet can
11:43	asie	crazyR: doubtful
11:44	crazyR	well think im out of ideas as to the cause lol, but i think im pretty much stuffed, the map seems irreparable. tryed running a leveldb repait on it too with no luck lol
11:45	crazyR	*repair
11:46	asie	it is always repairable
11:46	asie	with a danger of needing a hex editor and someone who knows the LevelDB format
11:47	crazyR	thats kinda why its irreparable, i dont know anyone lol :)
11:48	crazyR	and i doubt anyone will go through the entire db fixing it, its fairly big
11:50	FreeFull	crazyR: You might have a failing HDD
11:50	PenguinDad	hmmm, corrupted RAM could also cause this
11:51	FreeFull	Failing HDD would explain slow read/write speeds
11:51	crazyR	possible but not likely the the hard drive is configured as raid 10, all hardware is monitored :/
11:52	FreeFull	crazyR: Why is read/write so slow?
11:53	crazyR	thats the bit that ive been wondering my self, i sent a report to the datacenter this morning. should hear something back within the next couple of hours
11:54	crazyR	failing hd is actually the first thing i though of, but witht he configuration i wouldnt have though it possible
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12:39	LemonLake	vacuums work
12:39	LemonLake	no bugs, either
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12:42	PenguinDad	lol I just noticed that the builds forum has the id 42
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13:03	Sokomine	pipeworks also has that sand pipe which sucks items in
13:04	LemonLake	mhm
13:04	LemonLake	doesn't affect me though
13:04	Krock	also mese sand tubes
13:05	LemonLake	the geothermal furnace is going to be a tricky one to make
13:05	PenguinDad	Krock, Sokomine: they are not called this way anymore
13:05	Krock	hmm=
13:05	LemonLake	it'll require a lava tank on one side, a water tank on the other
13:05	* Krock	won't update pipeworks then
13:05	LemonLake	a bucket of each will fill a small meter per liquid
13:05	PenguinDad	Thanks to Zefram :(
13:05	LemonLake	water will deplete faster, though
13:06	LemonLake	when a meter is empty, it will take another buckets worth from the tank
13:06	LemonLake	there's also temperature. if the temperature is too hot, it explodes. temperature rises unless water is present, in which case it very slowly goes down
13:06	PenguinDad	Krock: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/commit/87d87c91fa83a8bdb09e718f0641a33f475f6826
13:06	LemonLake	"itemwise filter"
13:07	LemonLake	what the fuck
13:08	PenguinDad	LemonLake: also "Adjustable Vacuuming Pneumatic Tube Segment"
13:08	LemonLake	u wot
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13:10	VanessaE	LemonLake: itemwise vs. stackwise
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14:25	MinetestBot	GIT: maciej.kasatkino2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Bugfix in makeCuboid - apply rotations to all faces when 1 tile is given. 7007480 2014-07-20T16:22:48+02:00 http://git.io/_Ens6g
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15:24	sfan5	o/ Fusl
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15:30	PilzAdam	PenguinDad, https://github.com/PenguinDad/freeze/commit/180b0a60bc4ac3a4c7801abd7736c39e51ebf8cb hm?
15:31	PenguinDad	PilzAdam: just ignore that
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15:41	LemonLake	ugh
15:42	LemonLake	well i guess i have vids to edit
15:42	LemonLake	off to windows i suppose
15:42	* sfan5	throws openshot at LemonLake
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15:55	sfan5	<3 MinetestBot
15:55	MinetestBot	<3 sfan5
15:55	PenguinDad	lol
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15:56	sfan5	PenguinDad: had to fix feedparser
15:56	PenguinDad	ahh
16:02	Calinou	https://github.com/mabrowning/minecrift → lol
16:05	Krock	hmm?
16:08	Calinou	a mod for Oculus Rift support for Minecraft
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16:30	crazyR	is there anyway for a CLI to be builtinto minetest. so that say we could send command via command line whilst the server is running?
16:31	PenguinDad	crazyR: Calinou suggested something like that xesterday
16:31	PenguinDad	*yesterday
16:31	* Krock	wonders if using all filters speeds up the client
16:32	PenguinDad	which filters?
16:33	Krock	* in box(mainmenu.settings)
16:34	PenguinDad	Krock: that didn't answer my question
16:35	Krock	anisotroper filter, Bi- and Tri-linear filter
16:35	Krock	^ PenguinDad
16:35	Krock	actually, I can notice some speedup
16:37	PenguinDad	16px textures look like shit with Bi- or Trilinear filtering enabled
16:38	Calinou	Krock, aniso is slower, mip-map only is possibly faster, bilinear is possibly faster, trilinear is slower.
16:39	Calinou	PenguinDad, yes, use at least 128 px
16:39	Calinou	even 64 px is quite blurry
16:39	Krock	k ty
16:39	* Krock	uses 16px
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16:51	Sokomine	problem: i have a node that falls (like gravel, sand etc.). except that i have more than one version of that node. when it starts dropping, i want it to turn into what it would return if digged (its drop entry) and let that fall down
16:52	Sokomine	ideas how that could be done?
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16:55	sfan5	Sokomine: copy the code that does the builtin sand falling
16:56	sfan5	and change it
16:58	Sokomine	hm. might work
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16:58	zsoltisaw	hello?
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16:59	zsoltisaw	/msg Amaz_ Hi
16:59	zsoltisaw	lol
16:59	PenguinDad	zsolt is awwwww
17:00	zsoltisaw	xD
17:00	zsoltisaw	I guess this client is dumb
17:00	PenguinDad	/really
17:01	zsoltisaw	yeah
17:02	zsoltisaw	IRChon seems to not like freenode... 
17:02	Calinou	doesn't reply to CTCP VERSION
17:03	zsoltisaw	that's really stupid then
17:03	zsoltisaw	I will switch to IRC999
17:03	zsoltisaw	brb
17:04	Calinou	crashy as hell
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17:07	zsoltisawesome_	Test!
17:07	zsoltisawesome_	I have returned
17:07	PenguinDad	zsoltisawesome used resurrection!
17:09	zsoltisawesome_	Lol
17:10	zsoltisawesome_	Hi
17:10	Krock	hi
17:11	* PenguinDad	hugs whiskers75
17:11		zsoltisawesome_ joined #minetest
17:11	* whiskers75_hugs	PenguinDad
17:11	zsoltisawesome_	Lel
17:12	* Krock_slaps	zsoltisawesome_
17:12	zsoltisawesome_	IRC999 crashes when changing Nick lol
17:12	zsoltisawesome_	ACTION zsoltisawesome_?
17:14	zsoltisawesome_	Hmm
17:14	* PenguinDad_meows	at Krock
17:14	* Krock_meows_at	PenguinDad
17:15	Jordach	tl;dr I leave for a fucking weekend and VanessaE's servers fall apart
17:15	VanessaE	hah
17:15	PenguinDad	lol
17:15	* Krock_meows_at	Jordach
17:15	Jordach	Krock_meows_at, tl;dr it was a TCG tournament with other like-minded nerds
17:15	Krock_meows_at	ah
17:16	sfan5	!server meow
17:16	MinetestBot	TypeError: the JSON object must be str, not 'tuple' (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/__init__.py", line 312, in loads)
17:16	sfan5	>.>
17:17	PenguinDad	!server str
17:17	MinetestBot	TypeError: the JSON object must be str, not 'tuple' (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/__init__.py", line 312, in loads)
17:17	PenguinDad	didn't work :(
17:17	zsoltisawesome_	!c 99**9
17:17	MinetestBot	913517247483640899
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17:21	sfan5	!server meow
17:21	MinetestBot	sfan5: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 17/25, 8/23 | Version: 0.4.10-rc1 / meowtest_game | Ping: 22ms
17:21	sfan5	<3 MinetestBot
17:21	MinetestBot	<3 sfan5
17:25	PenguinDad	Aperture Science an abandoned Apple shop from hell
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17:35	Krock	!server ntdll
17:35	MinetestBot	Krock: No results
17:35	sfan5	!server krock
17:35	MinetestBot	sfan5: No results
17:35	Krock	!server Krock's
17:35	MinetestBot	Krock: No results
17:35	Krock	:/
17:35	sfan5	!server krock
17:35	MinetestBot	sfan5: Krock's Ultimative Platform | minetest.ntdll.net | Clients: 8/20, 5/8 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / minetest | Ping: 4ms
17:35	sfan5	ah there it is
17:35	Krock	4ms ping? very nice
17:36	sfan5	!server ping:least
17:36	MinetestBot	sfan5: No results
17:36	sfan5	o.O
17:36	Krock	!server players:2
17:36	MinetestBot	Krock: No results
17:37	Krock	!server clients_max:20
17:37	MinetestBot	Krock: No results
17:37	PenguinDad	!server players:most
17:37	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: No results
17:38	sfan5	now I still need to fix !server
17:38	Krock	good lucj
17:39	* Jordach	starts work on the super simple 9th Generation Prototype
17:42	VanessaE	prototype?
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17:42	Jordach	VanessaE, 20 objects -> 1 object for import
17:43	VanessaE	ohhhh
17:43	Jordach	less work for me to do when blending
17:47	Jordach	and it allows me to add new features without cloning the mesh
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17:52	sfan5	!wiki minetest.on_punch
17:52	MinetestBot	No such page.
17:52	sfan5	!devwiki minetest.on_punch
17:52	sfan5	MinetestBot!
17:52	MinetestBot	sfan5!
17:52	sfan5	!devwiki minetest.on_punch
17:53	Krock	:/
17:53	Krock	!wiki test
17:53	MinetestBot	No such page.
17:53	Krock	!devwiki test
17:53	sfan5	!wiki Troubleshooting
17:53	MinetestBot	"This page lists common technical problems like crashes and error messages (enclosed in quotation marks) and possible solutions or explanations." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting
17:53	sfan5	!wiki Mese
17:53	MinetestBot	"<br />" - http://wiki.minetest.net/Mese
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17:54	sfan5	lol
17:54	Krock	<br /> :D
17:54	PenguinDad	!dev Git
17:55	sfan5	hm
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18:00	Calinou	O_o you can use /set fps_max N to change FPS limit while playing singleplayer
18:00	Calinou	change FOV too
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18:05	PenguinDad	"One tree can make a million matches and one match can burn a million trees." simplifies to "One tree can burn a trillion trees."
18:06	Krock	terroyst
18:07	EvergreenTree	I hope I am not the one of those trees
18:07	EvergreenTree	:P
18:08	Calinou	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=149002#p149002
18:08	Calinou	benchmarks of Minetest, finally!
18:09	Calinou	Minetest performs well actually
18:09	VanessaE	I saw the craziest thing today, speaking of.  45 fps, 240m range, and I was cryptomining on the card at the time, too (R9 280X, pushing 3 MH/s while the game was running)
18:09	VanessaE	with default textures, no filters, no waving stuff
18:10	VanessaE	really surprised the shit outta me
18:11	Calinou	The game was run in a “fake fullscreen” window with compositing enabled, you can get slightly better FPS by disabling compositing. The game seems to be CPU-limited, the graphics card isn't fully used.
18:11	Calinou	CPU limit is obvious for that kind of game, but I'll still point out
18:11	VanessaE	yes, same here.
18:11	VanessaE	(the CPU limit)
18:12	Calinou	I used to play with fsaa = 4, pretty but a bit blurred
18:12	VanessaE	the question is, what exactly is the CPU doing anyway?
18:12	VanessaE	or rather, what's the CPU doing that can't be turned over to the GPU instead?
18:13	Calinou	batches sent to the GPU?
18:13	Calinou	this has a CPU cost
18:13	Calinou	this has a CPU cost
18:14	Calinou	I tried FSAA 0, 2 and 4, they have similar FPS, probably due to CPU limit
18:14	Sokomine	probably. in singleplayer, it seems chunks are generated much faster than i can see them
18:14	EvergreenTree	I have noticed that 0.4.10 uses up a lot mroe cpu then earlier versions
18:15	EvergreenTree	it still runs the same speed, it just throttles my cpu (only when outside of building)
18:15	Calinou	Sokomine, the game tries to send an insane amount of chunks by default
18:15	Calinou	(10 around player, generate 6)
18:15	Calinou	Carbone sends 5, generates 5… way saner
18:15	Calinou	0.3.x sent 4, generated 3, felt a bit short, but was generally fine
18:15	Calinou	was very lightweight :)
18:16	Calinou	for range 10 to be useful, you must use a view range of at least 160, very few people use such a thing
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18:16	Calinou	I use range 100, and even then, I don't really seem to be limited by sending 5 blocks
18:16	Sokomine	16x16 mapblocks or chunks (afaik something like 5 blocks or so?)
18:17	PenguinDad	10 chunks would be insane
18:17	Sokomine	ah, ok. so these 16x16 things
18:17	* Jordach	calls bs
18:17	EvergreenTree	why does the range not set the distance you can see?
18:17	EvergreenTree	it only gives a rough idea
18:17	EvergreenTree	I wish there was a definite setting which says "see this many chunks"
18:18	Sokomine	i'd love to be able to see 160 blocks far. and in a way, i do wish for that. at least for occasional overviews
18:19	Sokomine	perhaps, yes. when loading a map on view "far", my fps usally collapse when i take a look at what's already loaded. they tend to recover once that mountain or hill in front of me gets rendered and part of the view is blocked
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18:23	Calinou	160 blocks distance is too demanding for most PCs
18:23	Calinou	(the ones which play Minetest)
18:23	* Jordach	Calinous Calinou
18:24	Calinou	my specs are far above the average player, yet they were bought 2.5 years ago, released 3.5 years ago
18:24	Jordach	+infinity for MSI
18:24	Calinou	Jordach, meh, expensive mobo for nothing
18:24	Calinou	100 € mobo works just as well (no pun intended)
18:24	Jordach	Calinou, afterburner actually kicks ass :P
18:24	Calinou	(as well… Haswell…)
18:24	Jordach	Calinou, pssh
18:24	Calinou	Windows-only, proprietary
18:24	Jordach	Asus wins on prive
18:24	Calinou	you can use it on any card, on any PC anyway
18:25	Jordach	Calinou, i actually have to replace my case with a new one
18:25	PenguinDad	Jordach: I don't want software that kicks my ass :P
18:25	Exio	m5a99x evo here
18:26	Jordach	PenguinDad, there was a family guy joke about opening a can of whoop ass :P
18:26	Sokomine	might be hard to do for software :)
18:26	EvergreenTree	low end asus here
18:26	EvergreenTree	:P
18:26	EvergreenTree	I'm going to replace it
18:26	Jordach	EvergreenTree, sucks to be you; bought a monster 12ft pool from Amazon
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18:26	remarco	hi all
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18:29	* PenguinDad	doesn't know Family Guy
18:29	Exio	12ft?
18:30	Jordach	http://wolframalpha.com <-
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18:40	sfan5	test
18:40	sfan5	yep, works
18:40	sfan5	<sfan5> !dev User:Sfan5
18:40	sfan5	<MinetestBotClone> "bold | italics | underlined | code " - http://dev.minetest.net/User%3ASfan5
18:40	sfan5	hm
18:40	sfan5	doesn't work with ctrl+c
18:41	Krock	<u>test</u>
18:42	PenguinDad	Bold
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18:42	sfan5	!dev User:Sfan5
18:42	MinetestBotClone	"bold | italics | underlined | code " - http://dev.minetest.net/User%3ASfan5
18:42	Krock	test
18:42	sfan5	^ isn't this awesome?
18:42	Krock	how
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18:42	Krock	B and I are not working
18:42	sfan5	Krock: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/colors.html
18:43	sapier	[ANNOUNCEMENT] Mobf 2.3.91 prerelease https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=629 ... please test!
18:43	Krock	those keys don't work for me :/
18:43	Krock	got a GUI instead for colors
18:43	sfan5	Krock: use a decent irc client
18:44	sfan5	like hexchat
18:44	Krock	win32 compatible?
18:44	sfan5	y
18:44	sfan5	es
18:44	PenguinDad	sfan5: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/293/d/d/so_awesome_rainbow_dash_by_misterbrony-d4da6jj.png
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18:46	Krock	Hello hoodedice
18:46	hoodedice	Hi Krock
18:47	hoodedice	Some one logged in with an IP address on the Minetest wiki and vandalized a page
18:47	hoodedice	I reversed their changes for now
18:47	PenguinDad	hey hoodedice
18:47	hoodedice	Hi PenguinDad
18:47	Krock	"Windows 7/8 HexChat 2.10.0" aagh seriously?
18:48	* EvergreenTree	gives PenguinDad https://soundcloud.com/f-777/f-777-deadlocked-full-version
18:49	Krock	"This program does not support the version of Windows your computer is running." - I hate you.
18:49	PenguinDad	nice song EvergreenTree
18:49	hoodedice	Yaay
18:49	Calinou	https://mediacru.sh/c700ae25a9d9
18:49	MC-URLInfo	KeyError: 'blob_type' (file "/home/sfan5/mcurlinfo/modules/mediacrush.py", line 46, in mediacrush)
18:49	Calinou	insane FOV
18:49	hoodedice	Upgrade to 8.1 noob
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18:50	Krock	I'll better downgrade to ReactOS
18:50	EvergreenTree	f-777 is cool
18:50	Krock	don't wanna waste money for something whch is maybe too slow on my PC
18:50	EvergreenTree	F-777 ultra is cool, but I couldn't find it on soundcloud
18:50	Krock	btw, nice song
18:50	EvergreenTree	:S
18:51	PenguinDad	Krock: better use linux then
18:51	sfan5	^
18:51	EvergreenTree	^
18:51	EvergreenTree	woh seriously uses reactos?
18:51	EvergreenTree	*who
18:51	Krock	"Krock does not support the version of LINUX/UNIX your computer is running"
18:51	Krock	^me
18:52	sfan5	!wiki Mese
18:52	MinetestBot	"Mese Blocks are the rarest mineral and the third rarest blocks and start appearing very deep underground, under 1024 node lengths below sea level." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Mese
18:52	sfan5	yay, werks!
18:52	EvergreenTree	meh, here is f-777's official mix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRGkFkf2r0U
18:52	Krock	take this, M
18:52	Krock	C
18:52	EvergreenTree	it has ultra
18:52	Krock	-1024m >:D
18:53	Krock	Calinou, almost light speed
18:53	Krock	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bhbwOWi6lcYu.jpg
18:53	sfan5	!server ping:least
18:53	MinetestBot	sfan5: Xanadu | 98.166.169.32 | Clients: 22/40, 21/30 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 139ms
18:54	sfan5	!server ping:most
18:54	MinetestBot	sfan5: Krock's Ultimative Platform | minetest.ntdll.net | Clients: 17/20, 10/17 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / minetest | Ping: 1694ms
18:54	Krock	uh.
18:54	sfan5	Krock: lol, worst ping
18:54	Krock	xD
18:54	Krock	meh. be4 is was 4ms
18:54	sfan5	nope
18:54	sfan5	that was a bug
18:54	Krock	:(
18:55	Krock	interesting weather outside...
18:55	Krock	kinda stormy
18:55	hoodedice	!server ping:least
18:55	MinetestBot	hoodedice: Xanadu | 98.166.169.32 | Clients: 22/40, 21/30 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 139ms
18:56	PenguinDad	My sky is full of default:cloud D:
18:56	hoodedice	oh lol didn't see sfan already tried that out
19:03	Calinou	“Cool”: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/a-_gYB5IEFf-.jpg
19:03	Calinou	“:'(”: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_7j6Uqfjeg2i.jpg
19:03	Krock	my sky is full of weather:sormrain
19:04	Krock	+t
19:04	Krock	Calinou, ah I see :P
19:04	Krock	interesting mese
19:04	Calinou	found surface acid
19:04	* hoodedice	doesn't get it
19:05	Calinou	Krock, Meze (see it as counterfeit Mese if it amuses you); drops nothing, kills you 5 seconds after digging it; spawns above sea level only
19:05	hoodedice	Is it about the bronze pick?
19:05	hoodedice	oh lol
19:05	Calinou	in Carbone, (real) Mese may spawn above -1024 sometimes
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19:05	Calinou	hoodedice, it's a wooden pick, but I made the tool part brighter
19:05	sfan5	!server ping:least
19:05	MinetestBot	sfan5: Xanadu | 98.166.169.32 | Clients: 25/40, 22/30 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 124ms
19:05	Calinou	(this is the spawn loadout, except torches where you have 10 of them only)
19:05	Krock	Calinou, I got a déja vu..or so
19:05	PenguinDad	!server ping:worst
19:05	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: No results
19:06	Calinou	long time ago I wanted to add such a thing, but I only did it now
19:06	Calinou	to me, it seems like a fun idea
19:06	Calinou	to compensate for the fact you find Mese at surface
19:07	sfan5	PenguinDad: "most"
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19:07	Calinou	Add a better name for alternate split stone tiles: Checked Stone Tile.
19:07	PenguinDad	!server ping:most
19:07	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: Pripyat | mike402.ddns.net:50000 | Clients: 0/24, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 3290ms
19:07	Calinou	in More Blocks
19:07	Calinou	!server ping:least
19:07	MinetestBot	Calinou: Xanadu | 98.166.169.32 | Clients: 31/40, 22/31 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 125ms
19:07	Calinou	heh, still 125ms
19:07	Calinou	lots of clients
19:09	hoodedice	Say, I think the GUI scale scroller should indicate that it is necessary to restart minetest to see changes
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19:11	Calinou	http://0bin.net/paste/f86h+7ND0QnZo+BY#9ndO4CWjEvVpTaOdbtOrXvRXYQC8Rj5lLNnOmlWV8x2 → same groups, but the Meze is longer to dig and can't be dug with wooden or stone pickaxe, why?
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19:12	hoodedice	After looking at Lightbeam after one month of usage without Do Not Track and withoout Adblock
19:12	hoodedice	I've decided to enable both
19:13	Calinou	welcome on our side
19:13	* Calinou	opens the teamdoor for hoodedice
19:13	* hoodedice	declines
19:13	* hoodedice	still uses Microsoft Windows 8.1 LTA
19:13	hoodedice	*LTS
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19:13	hoodedice	Hi Miner_48er
19:14	hoodedice	Hi MinetestBot
19:14	MinetestBot	Hi hoodedice
19:14	Miner_48er	hi
19:14	hoodedice	pinged you by mstake, sorry
19:15	Sokomine	hi
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19:18	sfan5	!server players:most
19:18	MinetestBot	TypeError: list indices must be integers, not NoneType (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 128, in <genexpr>)
19:18	sfan5	>.>
19:19	Krock	MTBCPM
19:19	Krock	minetestbot crashes per minute
19:20	VanessaE	Calinou: check your /msgs
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19:21	heavygale	VanessaE: i instales your hdx texture pack, but only the hand and the bottom half of steel doors got replaced Oo
19:22	PenguinDad	heavygale: could be a broken zip
19:22	heavygale	i can view the files
19:22	heavygale	should be ok
19:23	heavygale	I'll try a smaller one
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19:23	heavygale	http://minetest.manifo.com/photorealistic-hdx-vanessae download links are broken :D
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19:24	hoodedice	heavygale: That is not a recognized minetest site
19:25	hoodedice	Hello Sokomine
19:25	Exio	Calinou, ...
19:25	Exio	Calinou, 8 cores?
19:25	Krock	heavygale, https://forum.minetest.net/
19:26	heavygale	recognized? :D
19:26	heavygale	whats up with the forum?
19:27	Krock	try to get the TP from there
19:27	heavygale	i got it from gitup
19:27	heavygale	https://github.com/search?q=user%3AVanessaE+hdx ;)
19:27	* Jordach	smells fish
19:28	heavygale	oh i see, downloaded the wring one :D
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19:32	Calinou	Exio, 8 threads ;)
19:32	Calinou	PTS reports cores :/
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19:35	Jordach	!c 60*60
19:35	MinetestBot	3600
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19:37	Krock	Jordach, srsly? :P
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19:38	Jordach	yes
19:39	PenguinDad	Krock: did you forget what Jordach is?
19:39	Krock	PenguinDad, a blender user
19:39	PenguinDad	lol
19:46	EvergreenTree	https://atom.io/ is cool
19:46	EvergreenTree	sfan5: suggested it
19:47	Jordach	>windows alpha
19:47	Jordach	<34
19:47	Jordach	-4
19:48	* PenguinDad	doesn't like atom
19:48	Jordach	if it pulls me away from N++ then it's a winner
19:52	Jordach	wat
19:52	Jordach	>0 Lua highlighting
19:53	Calinou	http://blog.marktraceur.info/2014/05/06/a-free-license-isnt-enough/ → is to consider
19:55	Jordach	yay
19:56	Jordach	circlejerk about how non-free is evil
19:56	Jordach	go fuck yourself
19:56	PenguinDad	Gitorous is not awesome it's shit imo
19:56	Jordach	show me a fucking polished UI that actually does what i want to do
19:56	Jordach	FOSS needs to grow up
19:58	PenguinDad	Blender is FOSS too
19:58	Calinou	potential fix committed, VanessaE
19:58	Calinou	(capped to 99 the max)
19:58	Calinou	<PenguinDad> Gitorous is not awesome it's shit IMO
19:58	Calinou	it does have an issue tracker and .zip download
19:58	Jordach	PenguinDad, acting like hippies over a philosiphy isn't good enough
19:58	Calinou	and wiki, and merge requests
19:59	Jordach	and acting like go fuck yourself to people who need things in their apps (eg - things that are needed badly) doesn't help adoption rates either
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20:03	Calinou	https://raw.github.com/abe33/atom-color-highlight/master/atom-color-highlight-variables.gif
20:03	Calinou	Atom looks promising, it works on Windows using Chocolatey now
20:03	Calinou	Jordach, “have to” is however a false thing
20:07	Jordach	psh
20:08	Jordach	GTK2 is on my hit list
20:08	Jordach	where the fuck is focus control; time after time GIMP never fucking appears behind a floating non maximized window
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20:14	* Calinou	is working on a Geany colour set
20:20	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/3omkLfUp2FHl.png
20:20	Jordach	^ grass sides change every time you play (or when the server restarts)
20:25	Jordach	(and this is why i kinda like the idea of new biome types https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Viy8QwCROopr.png )
20:26	Jordach	(you can see an ungenerated section if you look closely)
20:41	Krock	Verbindung zur echten Website unter forum.minetest.net kann nicht hergestellt werden
20:41	Krock	eww
20:42	Megaf	people, how do I revert a git pull?
20:42	PenguinDad	Krock: Das Zertifikat ist am 20.07.2014 22:19 abgelaufen. Die aktuelle Zeit ist 20.07.2014 22:42.
20:43	Krock	you're living in the future
20:43	Krock	I have 22.41
20:43	sfan5	Megaf: git reset <commit you want to revert to>
20:43	sfan5	Krock: it's 22:43
20:43	Megaf	ok
20:43	Megaf	Thanks
20:44	Krock	:/
20:45	Megaf	sfan5; is that all?
20:45	sfan5	yes
20:45	Megaf	hm
20:45	sfan5	maybe add a --hard
20:45	Megaf	my girlfriend made a big thing with nodebox editor, and now it changed some nodes positions
20:49	Exio	sfan5, git stash then?
20:49	Exio	afaik that will keep the changes (but un-commited)
20:50	sfan5	yes it will do that
20:51	Calinou	my colour set is ready
20:52	Calinou	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/3JWeRAP6gi8E.png
20:52	Calinou	thoughts?
20:52	Megaf	people, is thare a better nodebox editor than Nodebox Editor?
20:52	Calinou	Megaf, nope
20:52	Megaf	It is really buggy
20:53	Megaf	Jordach; is it easy to use Bender to make nodes?
20:53	Calinou	no bugs here
20:53	Calinou	you can't use Blender to make nodeboxes…
20:53	Calinou	moving cubes around in Blender is less easy than you think
20:53	Megaf	Jordach made
20:53	Calinou	if you want to prototype, use Tesseract ;)
20:54	Calinou	http://s14.directupload.net/images/140304/y7r7g5df.gif → this is much prettier in comparison, but font is larger and smoothed better (OS X)
20:54	PenguinDad	Megaf: I'm not sure how Bender is going to help you with nodeboxes ;)
20:55	Calinou	woo 23 points with a reddit comment
20:55	Calinou	I may reach 1000 comment karma soon
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20:56	crazyR	anyone know what this means: Server destructing
20:57	eth0	hello hello, am I the only one having SSL problems to acess the forum?
20:57	PenguinDad	crazyR: the opposite to Server constructing
20:58	PenguinDad	eth0: most of us are having problems
20:58	eth0	that's sad
20:58	crazyR	lol i guessed that but why would it happen on a new server with no other error output
20:59	eth0	i got a really big problem that won't let me play in my previous world
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20:59	eth0	i got 99 at every node of my furnace
20:59	eth0	and kept melting things
20:59	eth0	now i try to open my game and get this error
21:00	eth0	http://i.imgur.com/GWwM5U4.png
21:00	PenguinDad	^ Calinou
21:00	eth0	yeah
21:00	eth0	i'm playing carbone
21:02	Calinou	remove furnace ABM, maybe
21:02	Calinou	from code
21:02	Calinou	temporarily
21:02	Calinou	it's strange
21:02	Calinou	does this happen in minetest_next?
21:02	Calinou	minetest_game*
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21:02	eth0	i can to reproduce
21:02	eth0	in minetest_game
21:02	LemonLake	eth0: excuse me?
21:02	LemonLake	oh
21:03	Calinou	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/.config/geany/colorschemes/calinou.conf
21:03	LemonLake	hai peoples
21:03	Calinou	eth0, then report it here: http://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues
21:03	Calinou	hi LemonLake :)
21:03	LemonLake	what is a hsts failure?
21:03	eth0	but how exactly should i remove the furnace?
21:06	Krock	wrench.
21:06	LemonLake	:/
21:06	LemonLake	i has hsts failiure with minetest.net
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21:07	Calinou	fixed operator colour
21:07	PenguinDad	LemonLake: blame xyz
21:07	webdesigner97	I cannot acccess the forums anymore, the SSL certificate expired
21:07	LemonLake	webdesigner97: same
21:07	webdesigner97	gr
21:07	LemonLake	at least its not me
21:08	PenguinDad	that was reported how many times now?
21:08	eth0	is there anyway to increase the max number of itens per nodes?
21:08	webdesigner97	So I won't be able to access the forums now :(
21:09	PenguinDad	webdesigner97: that won't kill you
21:09	crazyR	https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/01c31d0206176f3373bb  <--- can someone please take a look at that log and see if they can spot a reason as to why the server would destruct without error upon a player joining
21:10	webdesigner97	PenguinDad: Firefox doesn't allow me to set an exception...
21:10	webdesigner97	I wonder why
21:10	LemonLake	webdesigner97: connect without https
21:10	webdesigner97	redirects me to https
21:10	LemonLake	wanker, it redirects
21:10	LemonLake	im going to kill that bastard
21:10	LemonLake	who programmed
21:10	LemonLake	a redirect
21:11	LemonLake	and imgur is down
21:11	* sfan5	meows at LemonLake
21:11	LemonLake	today is a bad day
21:13	VanessaE	I can't connect without https either.
21:13	VanessaE	(chromium)
21:13	sfan5	VanessaE: <xyz> i mean i'll fix it in a moment
21:13	LemonLake	what did xyz say before that?
21:13	sfan5	<xyz> lol
21:13	Calinou	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/-e7VynlcRuwm.png
21:13	Calinou	improved
21:14	LemonLake	Calinou, why a screenshot?
21:14	LemonLake	and is that sublime text? it looks like sublime text
21:14	LemonLake	but with different colors
21:14	crazyR	anyone?
21:14	Calinou	Geany :p
21:14	Calinou	LemonLake, to let you see colours
21:14	Calinou	I made a colour scheme
21:14	Calinou	(already pasted link here)
21:14	LemonLake	oh i see
21:14	Calinou	much prettier than default, feels more modern
21:15	LemonLake	if you want modern, try sublime text
21:15	LemonLake	fancy features it has
21:15	sfan5	or http://atom.io
21:15	* sfan5	goes to sleep
21:15	crazyR	hello wall how you doing?
21:15	sfan5	sleeping
21:15	Calinou	sfan5, I took inspiration from that exactly
21:15	Calinou	night sfan5
21:16	LemonLake	night sfan
21:17	Calinou	SSL error! can't add exception!
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21:18	eth0	Calinou, how I remove furnace?
21:18	Calinou	change your computer time to fix SSL bug
21:19	LemonLake	good idea
21:19	LemonLake	but then it's not secure
21:19	LemonLake	it's not a bug, it's just expired
21:19	Calinou	it's not like you're browsing without HTTPS
21:20	Calinou	eth0, open games/carbone/mods/default/nodes.lua, at line 1821, add --[[, at line 1913, add --]]
21:20	Calinou	to comment out the furnace ABM
21:21	Calinou	that's for the non-locked furnaces
21:21	Calinou	for locked furnaces, another ABM is used
21:21	Calinou	but I presume you're using a non-locked furnace here
21:21	eth0	now I was using th locked one
21:21	LemonLake	Calinou: or fix it yourself?
21:22	Calinou	no time for now, heh
21:22	Calinou	eth0, then add --[[ at line 1702 and --]] at line 1812
21:23	Calinou	save, run the game
21:23	Calinou	the furnace will stop acting (won't smelt anything)
21:23	eth0	wow nice
21:24	Calinou	take items out, then re-enable the ABM by removing the comment marks
21:24	Calinou	and next time make sure not all slots are full :P
21:24	crazyR	anyone having issues with ssl on the forums using firefox do this:  go to Options -> Advanced -> View Certificates -> Servers -> Add Exception
21:24	crazyR	then type in the full domain
21:24	LemonLake	i'd rather wait for a new certificate.
21:25	VanessaE	crazyR: doesn't work for everyone.
21:25	VanessaE	not everyone has the same browser as you
21:25	Calinou	it's totally 18:24!!!
21:25	* Calinou	runs
21:25	LemonLake	Calinou: it is
21:27	crazyR	anyone been able to check this log out
21:27	crazyR	https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/01c31d0206176f3373bb
21:27	VanessaE	crazyR: no idea about those sudden restarts - try running it in gdb
21:28	PenguinDad	crazyR: that doesn't fix it for me
21:28	eth0	Calinou, it worked like a charm, thank you a lot, I was avout to lose my whole gamr
21:28	eth0	game*
21:29	Calinou	no problem :)
21:29	LemonLake	imgur is back at least
21:30	Calinou	night
21:30	VanessaE	jeez
21:31	VanessaE	first gmail's certs, then the forum, then imgur
21:31	VanessaE	who else's certs are gonna expire?
21:32	PenguinDad	VanessaE: HitHub's of course
21:32	PenguinDad	*GitHub
21:32	Calinou	HitHub lol
21:32	VanessaE	PenguinDad: with my luck, it'll be Xubuntu's or Debian's next.
21:33	Calinou	EFF would be the most laughable at
21:33	Calinou	or anything that regards privacy a lot
21:33	Calinou	(laughable because it shows the flaw of CAs…)
21:34	PenguinDad	this site would be hilarious https://www.howsmyssl.com/
21:34	crazyR	VanessaE: how would i debug minetest with gdb. i got no experiance with it lol
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21:34	Calinou	crazyR, cmake . -DRELEASE_TYPE="Debug"; cd src; make -j2; cd ../bin; gdb ./minetest; “run”; “bt full”
21:34	VanessaE	crazyR: make sure your copy of Minetest is a debug build (idk which ones are), then just 'gdb minetest' and when it presents you with a pro.......
21:35	VanessaE	yeah, what Calinou said.
21:35	* VanessaE	is ninja'd.
21:35	Calinou	(I think it's -DRELEASE_TYPE, not sure)
21:35	crazyR	lol, thanks
21:35	Calinou	-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
21:35	Calinou	it is that
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21:38	LemonLake	well hey
21:38	LemonLake	forums are back
21:39	paramat	\0/
21:39	PenguinDad	LemonLake: they weren't down at all
21:39	LemonLake	i mean the sssssssssl
21:39	LemonLake	stop being a smart ass
21:40	PenguinDad	*tsl
21:40	LemonLake	excuse me?
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22:03	PenguinDad	yay forums are back!
22:05	swaaws	good work^^

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