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00:10 Sokomine oh :-) so homedecor will contain it all?
00:15 us`0gb Sokomine: Yes. Homedecor's next target is Mesecons.
00:18 VanessaE not even.
00:19 VanessaE kaeza: recipe for the tower is screwed up.  it creates computer:babytower (unknown item) but it probably should create computer:tower
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00:23 VanessaE kaeza: recipe for spectre is also screwed up, creates computer:spectre, probably should be computer:specter
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00:32 VanessaE kaeza: well strike that first one, the babytower I guess doesn't exist at all :P  but there's a recipe for one that points nowhere.  Also, "piepad" and "Wee" have no recipes.
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01:13 Vazon Ello Megaf
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01:33 Exio \o/
01:39 fling Hello :>
01:39 Exio hi
01:39 Exio i've implemented quicksort in my toy lang
01:39 Exio i can append two lists together too
01:40 fling Exio: what about syslog support?
01:40 Exio what should i code now
01:40 Exio lol
01:40 Exio poor fling
01:40 fling why?
01:40 Exio atm i'm using windows.. (can't switch to linux so ... :<)
01:40 fling try implementing reading port from a TXT dns record :>
01:40 Exio and also, syslog support? i don't find it that useful!
01:40 fling it is a good feature too
01:40 fling Exio: WHY DON"T YOU
01:41 Zeno` Exio, what is your toy language?
01:41 fling Exio: syslog protocol allows you to send logs to your syslog server
01:41 fling Exio: and your syslog daemon on syslog server might sort the logs
01:41 Exio Zeno`, i called it MUPL because it started as a "mupl-copy" of an old homework
01:41 fling Exio: it might put errors and alerts to some separate files
01:42 fling Exio: and then logsentry will scan these files end warn you with email :>
01:42 Exio http://spark-public.s3.amazonaws.​com/proglang/assignments/hw5.pdf
01:42 fling Exio: or sms? or phone call?
01:42 Zeno` Exio, https://github.com/Zeno-/bach <--  Toy computer
01:42 Zeno` no where near finished yet though
01:42 fling Exio: also syslog daemon might just store all the logs into a db
01:43 Exio then implement it yourself :P
01:43 fling Zeno`: I have learned programming 10 years ago using 12 bit toy computer :>
01:43 fling Zeno`: 16 cells in ram
01:43 Zeno` fling, those are fun :)
01:43 Exio Zeno`, http://dpaste.com/28WWA0W
01:44 Exio example code of my toy language
01:44 fling Zeno`: (4 bits for commands, 8 bits for data) in each byte
01:44 Exio because i'm still changing lots of things w/ the code, i haven't uploaded anything
01:44 fling Zeno`: 4 or 5 regitsers…
01:44 Zeno` Exio, that's neat
01:44 Exio the whole syntax is http://dpaste.com/22XN1PW
01:44 Exio a functional language with closures and high order functions
01:44 Exio \o/
01:45 fling Exio: not too much fun!
01:45 Exio also, all functions that one argument
01:45 Exio they have to be curried
01:45 fling I want to have a mod that will allow multiple worlds
01:46 Exio i want to fly
01:46 Exio (any function that takes two argument can be called infix too, i like that! :P)
01:46 Exio "two arguments"
01:46 Exio actually, takes one argument and returns another function that takes one argument
01:46 fling Exio: 295 people died yesterdal in a boeing 777 crash yesterday, not a good time to fly
01:46 fling s/yesterdal//
01:47 Exio can be a "three-argument" function can be made infix but that won't run it but leave it hungry for more paramz!
01:47 Exio fling, crash?
01:47 Exio it was a terrorist attack, also, it was _one_ airplane
01:47 Exio how many are up there?
01:48 fling Exio: terrorist? no, just ukraine army or doneck army shot the plane and it crashed
01:48 Exio "terrorist attack"
01:48 fling DOH
01:49 Exio use quotes! and don't take it _literally_! :D
01:49 Exio :P
01:49 fling ::D
01:49 Exio i still want more functions that i could code
01:51 fling Exio: where are binary ones?
01:51 fling oh they are there
01:52 fling Exio: code stack usage functions!
01:52 Exio what!
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01:56 fling Cstack_info()
01:57 Exio just fwiw, the language doesn't (and never will) support mutation
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02:13 fling How to control a running server?
02:14 fling Am I able to attach to it's console or somehow?
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02:15 Colerart_26 megaf can talk to you
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05:54 jp__ https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=148832#p148832
05:54 jp__ ^ VanessaE \o/
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06:57 sfan5 fling: use screen or tmux for that
06:57 sfan5 but there is no server console
06:57 sfan5 such a thing would be pretty helpful
06:58 sfan5 ニャー
06:58 sfan5 hi everyone
06:59 jp__ hi
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07:08 sfan5 o/ Calinou
07:11 Calinou hi
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07:17 john_minetest Hello everypony
07:17 * Calinou puts sfan5-pony on john_minetest's head
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07:23 jp__ Question : soundA(80db) + soundB(80db) →  >80db or =80db ?
07:23 john_minetest no
07:23 john_minetest 80 db + 80 db are about 83 db iirc
07:23 Calinou sounds are not /strictly/ additive
07:23 Calinou 3 dB = the double pressure
07:23 jp__ Ah ?
07:23 Calinou 10 dB is however closer to the double of the perceived sound
07:23 jp__ Exponential ?
07:23 Calinou sound is not linear
07:24 Calinou I guess sites like silentpcreview have info on sound pressures
07:24 john_minetest It is pretty easy to calculate
07:24 jp__ For example, does a sound of 100db can completty hide a 70db sound ?
07:25 john_minetest 10*log(10^(volume_1*1/10)+10^(volume_2*1/10))
07:25 john_minetest In this case: 10*log(10^8+10^8)=83.01029996 db
07:25 Calinou no sound completely hides another sound, but can make it harder to hear
07:25 Calinou you probably don't want to hear a 100 dB sound though
07:26 john_minetest Well, "hiding" another sound... those are psychoacoustic phenomenon.
07:27 sfan5 !c 10 * math.log(10 ** (80*0.1)) + 10 ** (80*0.1)))
07:27 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
07:27 sfan5 !c 10 * math.log(10 ** (80*0.1) + 10 ** (80*0.1))
07:27 MinetestBot 191.1382792451231
07:27 sfan5 I think I did it wrong
07:27 john_minetest maybe try "lg" instead of log
07:27 sfan5 !c math.lg
07:27 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'lg'
07:27 john_minetest Also when two sounds are 20db from each other, the one with less dB can be ignored since it won't bring much changes.
07:28 Calinou http://c55.me/random/2011-07/noisestuff/ → interesting
07:28 sfan5 ^ ack
07:29 Calinou I'm forced to use silly names for my singleplayer worlds in Minetest :(
07:29 Calinou we should have Guest names for worlds :p
07:30 sfan5 my names are not much better
07:30 sfan5 here are some: kitten, ooo, nodetopia, test, Welt
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07:34 Calinou increased ground acceleration (2.25 → 2.4), decreased air acceleration in Carbone (2.4 → 1.2)
07:34 Calinou logical values (respectively half and a quarter of walking speed)
07:34 Calinou “anew, biomes, newmap, nobiome, server, sqlite, two” are my worlds
07:35 Calinou I used to have stuff like “ezaezaezaeza”
07:38 jp__ Horrible & approx. image, but that's right ? http://i.imgur.com/IVPxtfR.png
07:39 jp__ ^ john_minetest
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08:13 shadow2 hallo, sagt mal, in Version 4.10 ist kein Survival Mode drin, oder?
08:14 shadow2 oops, wrong language.
08:14 shadow2 Version 4.10 doesn't have survival mode, does ist?
08:16 jp__ There is no survival mode as in MC, but you can approach it with it : https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8638
08:16 sfan5 shadow2: 0.4.10 has survival and creative, but there are no monsters.
08:16 sfan5 install a mobs mod if you want mobs
08:17 sfan5 !g minetest mod creatures
08:17 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8638
08:17 sfan5 ^ e.g. that one
08:17 jp__ Too late, sfan5 ^^
08:17 shadow2 sfan jp: kk, thanks; git simple-mobs by PilzAdam installed; but there doesn't seem to be a button "survival"
08:17 shadow2 -git +got
08:18 sfan5 shadow2: make sure "Creative mode" is disabled in the menu and the mobs mod is enabled in the "Configure" setting
08:18 sfan5 thats all
08:18 shadow2 i can create a map with "minetest" and "minimal development test"
08:18 sfan5 use "minetest"
08:19 jp__ Creatures is more elaborate than the PilzAdam mod, btw.
08:20 shadow2 ist it more fun, too ;-) ?
08:20 jp__ yes
08:21 jp__ is (english)
08:21 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9656
08:21 Calinou improved Simple Mobs
08:21 Calinou sounds, better textures and animations, much better balance, faster
08:22 shadow2 cool, thanks sfan5, jp & Calinou, will try
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08:25 john_minetest jp__: The approx. rule is, that when you add two sources of sound, the dB are getting 3 higher.
08:25 john_minetest So 80dB + 80dB = 83dB
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08:26 jp__ But it's not a constant rule I think. It become exponential from a certain level...
08:27 john_minetest It is constant iirc.
08:27 jp__ Ok.
08:27 john_minetest I can re-check.
08:36 * Calinou is making air springs larger
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08:40 john_minetest jp__: Welp, I am not concentrated enough to prove it. :P
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08:41 VanessaE hi
08:41 raffahacks Hi
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09:00 nman3600 http://pastebin.com/dDLxahjd
09:00 nman3600 I don't see the issue in this....
09:02 nman3600 Wait
09:02 nman3600 Nevermind I see 1 issue.
09:03 nman3600 Fixed it.
09:04 Calinou working on acid, improved cave generation, super apples on trees…
09:04 nman3600 Calinou, Cool!
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09:06 Calinou acid works similar to water, generates in gravel at any height (= lakes somehow), but deals 2 damage per second.
09:06 Calinou emits some light, is green.
09:06 nman3600 Nice, Looking forward to it.
09:09 Calinou can't be picked up using bucket ;)
09:09 Calinou that'd just melt it :D
09:09 Calinou also, Mese blocks generate rarely everywhere, in stone and desert stone
09:10 nman3600 Calinou, That's cool. Will this be in carbone or minetest_game?
09:10 Calinou it cools lava like water does
09:10 Calinou Carbone of course
09:10 PenguinDad nman3600: carbone of course
09:10 nman3600 Ahh okay.
09:11 Calinou mobs are damaged in it, except stone monster which is immune to liquids anyway
09:13 Calinou nman3600, PenguinDad: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/CUZfDz-pWATa.jpg
09:14 nman3600 Calinou, Nice! Texture looks abit like slime block from minecraft.
09:14 Calinou this is the result of leaving gravel in caves for too long! it turns into acid (-:
09:15 nman3600 So, If you use a bucket on acid the bucket will just dissapear?
09:16 nman3600 Calinou ^
09:17 Calinou no, it does nothing
09:17 nman3600 Okay.
09:17 nman3600 It should melt the bucket and turn it into steel.
09:17 Calinou that could work, but then I have to code all this :D
09:18 nman3600 Lol, It'll only make it better.
09:18 nman3600 Or maybe make a melted bucket.
09:18 nman3600 That does nothing,
09:18 nman3600 Untill you surround it again with steel.
09:19 Calinou found a cave with water and acid flowing
09:19 nman3600 Screenshot?
09:20 Calinou meh, I flied away from it
09:21 nman3600 I assume gravel only turns into acid when you've loaded that part of the map.
09:22 Calinou didn't find surface acid yet, it can likely happen, but very rarely
09:22 Calinou nman3600, it uses ore generation :P
09:22 PenguinDad orthocarbonic acid has a very interesting molecule structure http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/​0d/Orthocarbonic-acid-Spartan-MP2-3D-balls-B.png
09:22 Calinou like air springs, water springs, lava springs…
09:23 * Calinou is considering adding Meze to troll people: like Mese, but drops nothing, kills player upon digging
09:23 Calinou will only spawn at surface, not deep underground
09:24 nman3600 Lol.
09:28 fling Is there a diagram of levels? I want to know what is there with the default generator.
09:29 fling I mean I want to know what is the water level
09:29 fling and what is the level of ores… etc
09:30 PenguinDad you can set the water level
09:31 sfan5 fling: look at the individual ores page: http://wiki.minetest.net/Mese
09:31 sfan5 Mese Blocks [...] start appearing very deep underground, under 1024 node lengths below sea level.
09:31 fling sfan5: sweet
09:32 fling sfan5: I can't connect minetest.org:30018 btw
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09:40 fling sfan5: Is it possible to have a global minetest.conf? I don't want to edit one inside of the game folder
09:41 PenguinDad why is 0 the lowest water level when using mgv6?
09:41 Calinou fling, yes of course
09:41 Calinou ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
09:41 Calinou it overrides the game-specific ne
09:41 Calinou one*
09:42 fling Calinou: thanks
09:43 fling Calinou: how to noclip?
09:46 Calinou H by default, I think, you need fly and noclip privilege
09:46 Calinou using noclip without fly allows placing nodes inside yourself
09:47 fling haha
09:47 fling Calinou: thanks :>
09:50 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/7818852/ → crashes due to “invalid core.after invocation”
09:50 fling how deep can I go underground?
09:51 Calinou -30912
09:51 fling How to see my coords?
09:51 fling Calinou: great :P
09:51 Calinou F5
09:51 fling thanks; >
09:51 Calinou the world is limited to ±30912 in all directions
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09:53 PenguinDad the limit is a bit higher in positive directions
09:53 fling Calinou: is it possible to hide coords from players?
09:53 fling PenguinDad: half a bit :P
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09:56 Calinou no
09:56 Tux[Qyou] calinou sucks hamsters huehue
09:56 Calinou there are no hamsters in Minetest
09:56 Calinou only rats
09:56 Calinou PenguinDad, any idea about this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7818852/ ?
09:58 fling How to run?
09:58 Tux[Qyou] shoot at cyberdemon until he dies
09:59 Calinou fling, have the “fast privilege”, enable fast mode with J, hold the E key (“Use”)
09:59 Calinou moves you 5 times as fast
09:59 Calinou Tux[Qyou], no cyberdemons either, only dungeon masters
09:59 fling Calinou: great, thanks :>
09:59 Tux[Qyou] Calinou: 1/5
09:59 PenguinDad Calinou: this should work https://gist.github.com/Peng​uinDad/2d85875967084ace5a9d
10:03 Calinou found naturally generated Meze!
10:03 Calinou PenguinDad, the problem is, the node reappears upon digging :(
10:03 Calinou that's why I wanted to add minetest.after
10:05 Calinou found a way, use minetest.remove_node(pos)
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10:06 fling Calinou: I just found a mese block too
10:06 PenguinDad Calinou: the correct way would be minetest.node_dig(pos, node, digger)
10:06 Calinou OK, added
10:07 Calinou very strange, meze and mese use the same groups, but wooden pick can mine mese, but not meze
10:07 Calinou slower to dig
10:08 Calinou found surface acid
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10:14 * PenguinDad meows at LemonLake
10:14 * LemonLake meows at PenguinDad
10:14 Calinou found 4 Meze
10:14 LemonLake I fixed the weird fan ticking
10:14 LemonLake literally just took the extra fanblade off, it's just a gimmick
10:16 Calinou Carbone: Add Meze, looks similar to Mese, but drops nothing and kills player upon digging. Compress acid textures, improve ore generation. Add slightly more beaches.
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10:17 LemonLake nman3600 u faget
10:17 nman3600 LemonLake, Whai.
10:24 PenguinDad I proved that glass is hollow \o/
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10:27 LemonLake i proved that hollow is glass
10:28 LemonLake ffs
10:28 VanessaE !tell kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-computer/pull/6
10:28 MinetestBot VanessaE: yeah, yeah
10:29 LemonLake i crashed the apache last night....
10:29 LemonLake it only just started back up and it's super slow
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10:31 LemonLake the amount of textures in minetest-computer hurts me
10:31 LemonLake ever thought of re-using textures and, if necessary, rotating/flipping them with ^[?
10:33 Jordach lel
10:34 LemonLake ?
10:34 Jordach you know what's funny, when i logged off, VanessaE is talking about minetest-computer
10:34 LemonLake the conversation was not pertained
10:34 LemonLake <VanessaE> !tell kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-computer/pull/6
10:34 LemonLake <MinetestBot> VanessaE: yeah, yea
10:34 LemonLake that happened at 11:28
10:35 LemonLake then i checked out the repo via that
10:39 VanessaE well I didn't write it, I just pull-requested to fix a couple of bugs I noticed :)
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10:44 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/J6cQ_UXNQPGb.png
10:44 Jordach hello ecutruin
10:44 LemonLake sfan5 is being a wanker again
10:45 Jordach naw
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10:47 Xack lol
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10:47 Jordach Xack, pls
10:47 sfan5 joined #minetest
10:47 Xack Jordach: pls
10:47 LemonLake there goes the pachy again
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10:49 * Xack slaps Jordach
10:49 Xack woot
10:49 Xack *wot
10:49 * Jordach slaps Xack
10:49 Xack no u
10:49 Xack u smell
10:49 Xack ugly
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10:49 Xack gg sfan5
10:49 LemonLake you've got to be kidding me
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10:50 Xack no
10:50 LemonLake oh...
10:50 LemonLake that's why nothing was changing
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10:50 PenguinDad !tell sfan5 Fix yer connection
10:50 MinetestBot PenguinDad: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around
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10:50 LemonLake (facepalm) I was putting all my files in the server's root directory
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10:51 LemonLake das betat
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10:51 Calinou improved TNT smoke in Carbone (collides, behaves better, more smoke)
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10:53 Xack sfan5 ffs
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11:00 Jordach sfan5!
11:01 Jordach brb
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11:02 LemonLake finally, i've got the final clannad disc!
11:03 * PenguinDad meows at sfan5
11:03 LemonLake got torch and tokio wo kizamu :3
11:03 xnrand PenguinDad: are you a meowing penguin?
11:04 PenguinDad xnrand: I learned to imitate meows :P
11:04 LemonLake but it sounds weird
11:04 LemonLake like 'mwemmemfle'
11:11 Hirato LemonLake: tokyo tokkyo tokyaku
11:11 LemonLake Hirato: what?
11:11 LemonLake i typo'd
11:11 LemonLake Toki wo Kizamu
11:11 PenguinDad TIL IRC was invented by a finn
11:12 Hirato by talking here, you are speritually docking with him
11:12 LemonLake s/speritually/spiritually
11:14 PenguinDad +/
11:14 LemonLake correct
11:16 Hirato toukyou tokkyo kyoka kyoku
11:17 LemonLake Hirato: where are you getting this from and why is it existing here?
11:17 Hirato it's a tongue twister, okazaki and fuuka say that in Clannad
11:18 LemonLake indeed they do
11:18 LemonLake also, it's fuuko
11:18 LemonLake not fuuka
11:18 Hirato who cares, she's the worst character
11:18 LemonLake i do think she was indeed out of place after her main disappearance
11:20 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
11:20 Jordach MEW
11:20 LemonLake Hirato: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdNMnGH-X3E
11:21 LemonLake kyo kyo kyokyo kya kyo
11:21 Jordach hmmm
11:22 Jordach Rustlers Chicken Mayo Subs
11:24 Jordach ^ LemonLake
11:25 LemonLake what
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11:27 Jordach LemonLake, you haven't had one?
11:27 LemonLake i dont eat much
11:27 Jordach tch
11:27 Jordach you're missing out :3
11:27 LemonLake no im not
11:27 LemonLake i hate food
11:34 PenguinDad she's gone :'(
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11:41 * Jordach quite likes the idea of randomized grass side textures
11:44 jp__ Jordach, some work for you ;) https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=148860#p148860
11:44 PenguinDad Jordach: let's make every texture random :P
11:45 Jordach PenguinDad, i like the idea of textures that change each time you playy
11:45 Jordach or generated as the world expands (see grass)
11:46 Jordach btw - i darn fucked up https://cdn.mediacru.sh/vJpB04B3ZRi5.png
11:46 PenguinDad Jordach: just remove all texture files and you'll get this effect :P
11:46 Jordach PenguinDad, i want simple hints that the world appears to change ever so slightly players won't notice :)
11:48 PenguinDad steganographic textures :D
11:53 LemonLake Jordach: thats one old gimp
11:55 PenguinDad Jordach: your gimp is older than the one in Debian stable
11:55 LemonLake ^
11:56 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/-BGE8NyG6QM9.png
11:56 Jordach i don't like 2.8.x
11:56 Jordach it fucking sucks
11:57 LemonLake what's wrong with it?
11:57 LemonLake Jordach: that looks like taint, i like it
11:58 PenguinDad looks good except for the grass texture
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12:00 LemonLake miner works just swell
12:00 Jordach LemonLake, except Daytime Dungeon Masters and Daytime Oerkkis spawns there
12:00 Jordach with the same attack strength, but not the health of the underground varaints
12:01 LemonLake https://mediacru.sh/d5104d606ab9
12:01 MC-URLInfo KeyError: 'blob_type' (file "/home/sfan5/mcurlinfo/modules/mediacrush.py", line 46, in mediacrush)
12:02 Jordach GACK
12:02 LemonLake hm?
12:02 Jordach repeating textures D:
12:02 sfan5 hm
12:02 PenguinDad MC-URLInfo!
12:02 MC-URLInfo PenguinDad!
12:02 sfan5 it should probably check for albums
12:02 LemonLake Jordach, stop bragging
12:02 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
12:02 Jordach once you get used to the randomness normal MTG looks like shit
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12:05 LemonLake the fullsized instrumental of toki wo kizamu uta is actually reaallly good
12:06 LemonLake the only problem with the ~AS~  disc is that they only remove the main vocal layer
12:06 LemonLake so you still have all the backing vocals
12:08 PenguinDad https://mediacru.sh/BRfFE4GjBYh-
12:08 MC-URLInfo MediaCrush: 1920x1021 image
12:08 PenguinDad ^ Jordach
12:09 Jordach the patterns
12:09 Jordach they do nothing
12:09 LemonLake now that's some nice grass
12:09 LemonLake what i love about clannad is that most of the songs come from nagisa's melody
12:09 LemonLake so in every episode you're gonna hear dango at least 4 times
12:22 sfan5 [LOG]: jjssj calculated '9**9**9'
12:22 sfan5 I see
12:23 LemonLake !c 9**9**9
12:23 LemonLake oh yeah
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12:23 Jordach hello MinetestBot
12:23 MinetestBot Hey Jordach
12:23 LemonLake is that how the bot went out?
12:24 sfan5 LemonLake: exactly
12:24 LemonLake can i do it again? ;3
12:24 sfan5 don't you dare
12:24 LemonLake oww
12:25 PenguinDad !c math.sqrt(4)
12:25 MinetestBot 2.0
12:25 * sfan5 is just wondering where the 0.003 btc came from
12:27 LemonLake im calculating 9^9^9 right now
12:27 LemonLake my pc is exploding
12:28 PenguinDad LemonLake: duck and cover
12:28 LemonLake its taking longer than i predicted
12:29 LemonLake i should probably have written it to a file than to echo
12:29 LemonLake considering its 300000000 digits
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12:30 sfan5 LemonLake: nope, 369693100 decimal digits
12:30 LemonLake i should've added over
12:30 LemonLake i saw that on google, tho
12:30 sfan5 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=9+**+9+**+9
12:31 * PenguinDad wonders why people always kill MinetestBot with 9**9**9
12:32 * sfan5 thinks about implementing a "go fuck yourself" feature
12:32 LemonLake does anyone know how i can bc to a file?
12:32 sfan5 bc?
12:32 sfan5 you mean GNU bc?
12:32 LemonLake http://mylinuxbook.com/linux-comm​and-line-calculator-bc-examples/
12:33 LemonLake that thing
12:33 sfan5 thats GNU bc
12:33 sfan5 use python
12:33 sfan5 it's a better calculator
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12:34 LemonLake how would i calculate something in python, and write it into a file as it calculates then?
12:34 sfan5 python | tee outfile.txt
12:34 sfan5 might work
12:35 EvergreenTree of course, you can make python output to a file
12:35 sfan5 yep
12:35 sfan5 that works
12:35 LemonLake okay
12:35 LemonLake let me learn python first
12:35 Exio sfan5, >better calculator
12:35 Exio <sfan5> python | tee outfile.txt
12:35 PenguinDad why tee and not kaffee?
12:35 Exio your solution is worse than doing shit in bc
12:36 * sfan5 gives Exio gnome-calculator
12:36 Exio < mupl
12:36 LemonLake nvm
12:36 LemonLake figured it aout
12:36 sfan5 you figured it a.out?
12:36 PenguinDad ./a.out --help
12:37 sfan5 38.29 GB
12:37 sfan5 ^ traffic of servers.minetest.net since it moved to my server
12:37 LemonLake okay
12:37 LemonLake python is calculating me a number.
12:38 PenguinDad very number many calculating wow
12:39 LemonLake lol
12:39 LemonLake listening to music while calculating this just results in screams of a thousand little children
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12:49 PenguinDad I just made a grass texture that is definitely without a pattern
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12:49 LemonLake how get node define
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12:51 PenguinDad LemonLake: this will help you https://github.com/minetest/minetest/​blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L251-253
12:52 LemonLake ta
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14:27 Partmedia is there a way to re-generate mobf vombie spawners?
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14:31 Krock hi
14:31 Partmedia hello
14:36 LemonLake Jordach: Do you have an example somewhere of an entity node?
14:36 LemonLake Like, not one jumbled with other features
14:37 LemonLake a simple node
14:38 EvergreenTree Jordach is offline
14:38 EvergreenTree He is at   a friend's
14:38 LemonLake hm
14:38 LemonLake ok
14:38 EvergreenTree (at least that is what he told me
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15:40 * VanessaE is back.  yay. :)
15:40 Calinou wb
15:40 Calinou VanessaE, added nice stuff to Carbone this morning
15:40 Calinou super apples grow on trees (only at map generation), acid lakes spawn in gravel, Mese blocks spawn at surface, Meze spawns
15:41 VanessaE acid lakes?  eek
15:41 VanessaE what's Meze?
15:42 Calinou like Mese, drops nothing, kills you 5 seconds after mining
15:42 Calinou slightly different texture
15:42 Calinou spawns at surface only :P
15:42 Calinou acid acts like water, deals 2 damage per second, can't be picked into bucket
15:42 VanessaE yikes
15:44 VanessaE next thing I need to do with Dreambuilder is get some nice surrounding image on this HUD.
15:44 VanessaE (like in realtest, carbone, ...ok everyone else does it too :) )
15:45 VanessaE hud_set_hotbar_image(texturename)  yes?
15:45 VanessaE and  hud_set_hotbar_selected_image(texturename) ?
15:47 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/7820281/
15:47 Calinou all the init code from Carbone
15:47 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/7820284/ ← hotbar
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15:48 VanessaE right, that's what I thoughjt
15:48 VanessaE thought.
15:48 VanessaE I don't wanna borrow too heavily from Carbone :)
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15:49 Calinou why not?
15:50 VanessaE because it's ...your game? :)
15:50 Calinou it's not “my game” as in “garden's lawn”
15:50 Calinou I want people to use the fixes to make the game better, in fact
15:51 VanessaE true
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15:51 Krock http://test.mine.bz/
15:53 PenguinDad Krock: that site is outdated
15:53 * Krock knows
15:56 Krock 15s for 3x 2d-noise on a 512x512 area
15:57 Calinou was a semi-temporary URL
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16:01 Krock http://i.imgur.com/zXdel5a.png
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16:55 UukGoblin my first underground line is complete
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17:09 paramat hmmmm, am i right in thinking that the emerged volume of the mapgen voxelmanip includes a 1 mapblock thick shell around the chunk whatever the chosen chunk size, whereas the emerged volume of the non-mapgen voxelmanip is the minimum volume of complete mapblocks that contain the requested volume?
17:10 Megaf Vazon; Hey man
17:10 Megaf What have you done to be jailed?
17:20 Vazon mhmm it may have been when i was trying to kill you the other week, but i could be wrong :P
17:21 Megaf Vazon; anyway, I released you
17:21 Vazon lol ok
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17:21 Vazon i think its from then because i havent been on since then
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17:36 paramat bbl laptop needs to cool
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18:16 sfan5 most productive commit today: sfan5/minetestbot-modules sfan5 My hands are typing words http://git.io/u_cIKQ
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18:20 LemonLake こんにちは :3
18:20 sfan5 :3
18:21 LemonLake sfan5: does レモン湖 work?
18:21 SylvieLorxu xkcd reference :P
18:21 PenguinDad sfan5 has the xkcd syndrome :D
18:21 sfan5 LemonLake: romanji pls
18:22 LemonLake the kanji is 'lake'
18:22 LemonLake mizuumi, iirc
18:23 LemonLake レモン is 'remon'
18:24 PenguinDad Firefox is pretty good at giving me results I didn't expect
18:25 LemonLake so sfan, would it be correct or is there some particle im missing?
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18:27 sfan5 LemonLake: seems correct
18:27 LemonLake perfect
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18:33 rubenwardy Hi all!
18:33 rubenwardy My web crawler is now multithreaded! Yay!
18:37 Eivel hello and congrats
18:38 PenguinDad hi rubenwardy
18:38 Eivel Another silly modding question, what type of parameter is the first one in "set_attach" ? Documention explain nothing about it except that it is a "parent".
18:39 Eivel I'm trying to pass a node object there, but minetest crashes
18:40 PenguinDad Eivel: the parent must be an entity
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18:40 kaeza afternoons
18:40 PenguinDad evenings kaeza
18:40 Eivel PenguinDad: So I can't attach player to a node after he sits?
18:41 Eivel hello, kaeza
18:41 kaeza Eivel, you can't attach to a node directly, but you can create an immobile entity at the node pos, and attach to that
18:41 PenguinDad Eivel: You can only attach entities to entities
18:42 Exio anyone has some spare cash?
18:42 Exio i only need 600 USD
18:42 Eivel Oh, that's a good solution. Thanks, kaeza and PenguinDad
18:42 Krock *only*
18:42 Exio yeah, _only_
18:42 kaeza Eivel, sure :)
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18:49 Eivel kaeza: Do I have to delete these entities after standing up or there's some kind of garbage collector? I mean, if players keep sitting, there're going to be many garbage invisible entities around.
18:49 LemonLake it would be a good idea to delete it
18:50 Eivel Yeah, I suppose that minetest does not have any "temporary" entities ?
18:50 kaeza Eivel, due to some bugs in older (?) versions, first detach (set_attach(nil)), then delete
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18:50 Calinou make the entity immortal
18:50 Eivel ok
18:50 Calinou to make sure it can't be punched and removed by hand (it shouldn't)
18:50 Calinou Eivel, you can remove an entity on node dig
18:51 Calinou Protector mod (by TenPlus1) does it
18:51 Calinou look at how it attaches entity to node :)
18:51 Calinou done well
18:53 Eivel I'm not sure if that fits my idea, I mean, people would dig under the player cancelling his sit animation. Or  it's not what you've had in mind?
18:53 Calinou make entity immortal, remove it on node dig
18:54 Calinou entity collision box should be a bit larger than node, else you can't right-click it
18:55 Eivel I'll try to toy around with that mod
18:56 PenguinDad Eivel: better take a look at the beds mod
19:09 Eivel PenguinDad: What exactly do you suggest looking for in the beds mod? I see neither attaching nor entities there.
19:12 PenguinDad TIL this would work without entities too
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19:21 Eivel It look much more complicated than working on entities
19:22 * PenguinDad hugs PilzAdam
19:26 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
19:27 Eivel PenguinDad: Do you know maybe how to get a reference to an entity? Eg. a player sits, the invisible entity is created. Then he get's logged out and another function must remove the entity.
19:27 Eivel Is there any "find all entities of x type" function?
19:27 LemonLake find entities in a radius
19:27 LemonLake http://dev.minetest.net/minet​est.get_objects_inside_radius
19:28 Eivel huh, didn't see this one. I was looking on this page earlier: http://dev.minetest.net/EnvRef:add_entity. Thanks
19:30 LemonLake http://dev.minetest.net/Category:Methods
19:30 LemonLake that's a very useful page
19:30 Eivel Ok, saved
19:31 Calinou Eivel, beds mod makes the player impossible to move, but since speed is changed at the same time as acceleration, if you move while right-clicking bed, you'll slide indefinitely… :(
19:32 Calinou acceleration should probably be instant when speed is set to 0 using physics override
19:32 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=5932 → crap, Ubuntu One
19:33 Calinou BrandonReese, you there? you may want to upload it somewhere else; Ubuntu One is still available for you until July 31
19:33 Calinou after that date, all data stored on Ubuntu One is lost
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19:33 Calinou * [BrandonReese] inactif  158:39:57, ouverture de session : Sun Jul 13 06:53:37
19:33 Calinou outlook not so good :p
19:36 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
19:36 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
19:40 sfan5 2014-07-19 15:27:47 -0400       TXT     LemonLake(LemonLake!~LemonLake@host109-150-245-159.range1​09-150.btcentralplus.com) executes command 'http://dev.minetest.net/minete​st.get_objects_inside_radius'
19:40 sfan5 o_O
19:41 LemonLake excuse me
19:41 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=3924 → useful, but code seems ugly
19:41 Calinou would love having interactive Minetest terminal :(
19:41 Calinou like Minecraft server, pretty much
19:41 sfan5 o.O
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19:43 PenguinDad today seems to be everyone fucks up MinetestBot day
19:43 Calinou if you want amazing terminal implementation, look at how Unvanquished <http://unvnet.net> does it
19:43 sfan5 PenguinDad: actually my fault
19:43 Calinou it has scrolling, colour support, interactivity, a frame (to look different from other terminals)…
19:44 sfan5 Calinou: ok, ok, how damn many FPS do you know?
19:46 Calinou probably almost all the free/libre ones
19:46 LemonLake i want to kill mtbot
19:46 LemonLake it is my destiny
19:48 Calinou sfan5, https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=5989 → if this is obsolete, move to Old Mods.
19:48 * Calinou is planning to do some mod triaging
19:48 sfan5 Calinou: thanks for assisting me log.py by pasting an unicode char into the chat
19:49 Calinou ?
19:49 sfan5 <Calinou> https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=3924 → useful, but code seems ugly
19:49 Calinou oh, of course. ©−©
19:49 sfan5 the → causes the crash
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19:50 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot →
19:50 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
19:50 sfan5 works!
19:50 PenguinDad ↑↓
19:50 sfan5 or does it?
19:50 Krock <LemonLake>i want to kill mtbot
19:50 Krock >> !c 3**3**3
19:50 sfan5 !c '→'
19:50 Krock l3l
19:50 LemonLake may i pls?
19:50 sfan5 goddmanit
19:51 Exio people say installing stuff under windows is so easy
19:51 Exio what did they smoke
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19:51 Exio this is painful
19:52 Exio getting a working LFS with a broken keyboard is easier than using windows for anything nice
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19:54 sfan5 !c '→'
19:54 sfan5 :c
19:55 sfan5 this unicode shit is annoyinbg
19:55 sfan5 -b
19:55 Exio python developer problems
19:55 Exio rewrite minetestbot in haskell!
19:55 sfan5 n ou
19:55 sfan5 no u
19:55 Exio nou
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19:59 Calinou then no one will ever ask anything from MinetestBot, Exio
19:59 Exio wat
20:05 Calinou Haskell malediction :p
20:05 Krock sfan5, put try {} catch {} around main(), always a good thing :P
20:06 sfan5 I'm not using Java or C++
20:06 Krock then convert it..
20:06 Exio Calinou, malediction?
20:06 Krock (my code)
20:06 Exio Krock, how is that a good thing?
20:07 Exio an exception catched that way doesn't looks so nice
20:11 Krock Exio, I know.
20:12 rubenwardy try:  /  except:
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20:21 Calinou Exio, synonym of smite
20:22 Exio my mind isn't here, it is checking http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/peop​le/simonpj/Papers/slpj-book-1987/index.htm
20:22 Exio dat amazing book
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20:30 Eater4 how do I get xban2
20:31 PenguinDad Eater4: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban2 https://github.com/PenguinDad/freeze/commi​t/180b0a60bc4ac3a4c7801abd7736c39e51ebf8cb
20:31 PenguinDad -https://github.com/PenguinDad/freeze/commi​t/180b0a60bc4ac3a4c7801abd7736c39e51ebf8cb
20:37 Calinou Eater4, it's in Carbone too
20:37 Calinou (with tweaks)
20:40 PenguinDad lol http://mrtux.org/2014/07/13/arch-users.html
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20:40 Niften Hey, does anyone know where I can find information about Minetest's license?
20:40 Niften GNU General Public License, correct?
20:41 Niften Nevermind..
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20:43 Krock ..
20:43 Krock ^didn't read topic
20:50 mrtux penguindad yes
20:51 Calinou I know this comic since long time ago
20:51 Calinou Debian person says nothing
20:52 PenguinDad mrtux: about the arch comic?
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20:55 oggio hello
20:55 Krock hi
20:55 oggio i need help
20:55 Krock with?
20:55 oggio for mi mining rig
20:56 Krock on a VE server?
20:56 PenguinDad Mese mining rigs xD
20:56 oggio i don't mining now i think to have something problem
20:57 oggio last time i start to mining dogecoin with 2 5870
20:57 oggio after i buy 2 more 5970
20:58 PenguinDad oggio: you might better ask that in #dogecoin
20:58 oggio but if i start to mining, the computer was locked
20:58 oggio really i gonna continue on multipool
20:58 Krock does your comuter have an Apple-symbol where a bite is missing?
20:58 oggio no
20:59 Krock hmm. I saw something about OSX with that problem
20:59 PenguinDad shit Jordach isn't here :(
20:59 * Krock gives PenguinDad !tell
21:00 PenguinDad Krock: minetest bot isn't here
21:00 PenguinDad s/minetest bot/MinetestBot/
21:00 oggio before i try with windows, more different program and version, now i try to put SMOS
21:00 oggio the system starting and after 1 minute the pc was locked again
21:01 kaeza oggio, wrong channel
21:02 PenguinDad oggio: you might better ask that in #dogecoin
21:03 oggio i don't gonna mining doge anymore
21:03 LemonLake i think its time to go back to linux now
21:04 * sfan5 meows
21:04 oggio i need just help, if i wrong channel. where i can ask help?
21:05 EvergreenTree go to #dogecoin
21:05 EvergreenTree :P
21:06 EvergreenTree how did you even manage to get here if you need help with dogecoin?
21:06 kaeza probably because "mining" has a new definition now...
21:06 oggio no i need help for setting.. doesn't matter wich coin, doge, crypto, 42... ecc..
21:07 kaeza oggio, this channel is not dedicated to any kind of cryptocurrency; try #dogecoin, #bitcoin or ask on #freenode
21:07 oggio ahh
21:08 oggio so this channel is for?
21:08 kaeza /topic
21:08 oggio ahh xD
21:08 oggio sorry
21:08 * sfan5 facepalm
21:10 Calinou oggio, here we mine Mese: http://wiki.minetest.net/wiki/Mese
21:10 * kaeza puts a conjugation on sfan5's verb
21:10 Calinou no value, but makes great tools!
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21:14 PenguinDad we should invent mesecoins which can only be mined with a minetest mod
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21:31 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2838 → “booby” traps.
21:31 LemonLake they're more like hazards
21:32 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=6921 → last screenshot O_o
21:33 LemonLake that's a pretty cool tree
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21:59 PenguinDad !c '↘↓↙' + ' Down with you!'
21:59 LemonLake now that's just mean
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