Time Nick Message 00:46 telek1 hummelBop: What speed/capacity cpu/videocard/ram, are you using mods or just minetest_game, etc? 03:03 hummeleBop my computer was slow because of microsoft updates 06:11 emerge Hello 06:11 LemonLake こんいちは 06:12 LemonLake こんにちは* 06:12 emerge :P 06:13 VanessaE wat 06:13 LemonLake hm? 06:13 kaeza ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 06:13 kaeza mornings 06:13 LemonLake good day 06:14 kaeza https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zdu0d5ZhqP0/U00uH-cUYSI/AAAAAAAAJpk/rqFNB2frEOE/w702-h527-no/give+this+guy+a+Medal.jpg 06:14 LemonLake hmm.... 06:14 LemonLake yeeeeessss it shoooould make it 64bit 06:14 LemonLake give it a go 06:14 VanessaE nice, a jpg of a screenshot that's barely readable 06:15 LemonLake "I have a question, 06:15 VanessaE oh G*d. people are really that dumb? 06:15 VanessaE (the guy's question) 06:15 LemonLake ah you read it 06:15 kaeza probably trolling :P 06:15 kaeza (?) 06:15 LemonLake ^ 06:15 LemonLake but people ARE that dumb 06:15 kaeza ^ 06:16 emerge I need help with my function. http://pastebin.com/TXgkBFM3 It should add a bunch of nodes with same specs, except for drawtype. 06:16 LemonLake Unless this is part of a game, I wouldn't recommend putting it in default 06:16 emerge Ok. 06:16 emerge It's a game. 06:17 LemonLake looks good to me 06:17 emerge And problem is in different place. When I place a node generated by this function it turns into fence. 06:17 VanessaE LemonLake: I read that post to my husband. 06:17 VanessaE WHAT?! 06:17 LemonLake ? 06:18 LemonLake Oh i see 06:18 LemonLake that confused me for a sec 06:18 LemonLake VanessaE: Eeeyup 06:18 kaeza emerge, you are modifying `data' in-place; try copying the table 06:18 LemonLake ^ 06:18 LemonLake Since "fencelike" is the last one, its the chosen one for all of them 06:18 kaeza (in each loop iteration) 06:19 emerge kaeza, ok thx 06:19 hoodedice morning 06:20 kaeza mornings hoodedice 06:20 VanessaE meanwhile, abe just spotted a cute sticker on feeBay, via a facebook post. Simon's Cat, pointing at his food bowl, designed such that you paste it over your car's fuel fill door :) 06:20 emerge kaeza, it works 06:20 LemonLake おはよう! 06:20 hoodedice Van, what post? 06:20 VanessaE also, good morning kaeza :) 06:21 VanessaE https://www.facebook.com/magyarsimonscat/photos/a.210459552305508.55796.208295702521893/833434770007980/?type=1 06:21 kaeza hah 06:21 LemonLake okay, now that's something cool 06:21 VanessaE (sorry, the post there doesn't link to eBay, he had to search for it) 06:21 hoodedice nice 06:21 VanessaE wwait, yeah it does - in one of the comments. 06:22 * hoodedice goes back to skyrim 06:22 LemonLake http://www.ebay.com/itm/Funny-Simons-Cat-1-Big-Decals-Stickers-Graphics-Kitty-Auto-Vinyl-Window-Car-/171229198557?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&var&hash=item27de0e38dd&vxp=mtr 06:22 hoodedice I installed skyrim twice, now it runs two times faster on my celeron =P 06:22 LemonLake comic sans ruined it 06:23 hoodedice > $6 06:23 hoodedice I would rather put up a sticker with a MT nyan cat 06:23 hoodedice But I would likely be buying a MANLY CAR 06:23 LemonLake manly car? 06:23 hoodedice SO IT WILL HAVE MANLY STICKERS 06:23 LemonLake a car is a car 06:24 hoodedice LIKE THIS http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9mibjmfkj1qdsggv.jpg 06:24 LemonLake oh 06:24 VanessaE heh 06:25 hoodedice Lemon, cars like the eclipse are girly 06:25 LemonLake getting a job will be fun 06:25 hoodedice I saw this guy driving a pink eclipse with eyelashes on the headlights 06:26 LemonLake 95 layers... 06:26 hoodedice !tw 486748674412666881 06:26 LemonLake 346 paths... 06:26 MinetestBot Oh yes, just in case you noticed stuff is different in 0.4.10, this is because we are using minetest_next as the default subgame =D (@MinetestCommune) 06:26 LemonLake and im STILL 06:26 LemonLake NOT 06:26 LemonLake DONE 06:27 hoodedice Lemon, inkscape or gimp? 06:27 LemonLake gimp, don't like working with inkscape 06:27 hoodedice =O 06:27 hoodedice inkscape is the future 06:27 LemonLake i'd normally use photoshop but over the time of making this image, photoshop < gimp 06:27 LemonLake plus, with all the processing i have to do for certain features, inkscape will not work 06:27 hoodedice oh' 06:32 LemonLake 8.5mb 06:32 LemonLake :/ 06:32 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m_iyYxYeiJRk.png 06:33 VanessaE very nice 06:33 LemonLake that there is 98 layers, 353 paths and 8.5mb 06:34 LemonLake I wonder if mediacrush go through their submissions....I know the maker of the site is a clannad fan 06:38 JesseH Are there faster ways to cut down trees? 06:38 LemonLake in default, no 06:39 LemonLake there are timber mods out there, and krock's server has a chainsaw built-in to bitchange 06:39 JesseH Oh okay. I'm looking for ways to progress as a tree farmer. :P 06:39 LemonLake (which i believe is exclusive to said server) 06:39 JesseH But it seems I've hit my limit on what I can do in a day. 06:40 nman3600 Hi 06:40 LemonLake おはよう! 06:41 telek1 '99 and older GST/GSX eclipses kick ***. I will agree the majority of eclipse models suck however. 06:42 nman3600 Is there a "double chests mod" Like if you put a chest next to a chest it expands. There's one in MiniTest, But it's in a game and it won't help... Anyone? 06:42 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2558 06:42 LemonLake !title 06:42 MinetestBot LemonLake: [Mod] Big Chests [0.2] [bigchests] - Minetest Forums 06:43 nman3600 That's not what I'm looking for 06:43 nman3600 That's just a chest with double slots 06:43 LemonLake if you're that desperate, i can nab it out of minitest 06:43 nman3600 LemonLake, Please. 06:44 LemonLake owow that's a lotta code 06:44 nman3600 I know 06:44 LemonLake this might take some time 06:44 LemonLake don't go releasing this, i doubt pilzadam will be hpapy 06:44 nman3600 No It's just for my singleplayer worlds, LemonLake. 06:45 VanessaE bbl 06:45 nman3600 Okay, VanessaE. 06:46 LemonLake VanessaE: さようなら! 06:48 JesseH What would you guys do with a largish flat area, in default? 06:50 LemonLake make it non-flat 06:50 LemonLake flat areas disgust me 06:50 JesseH lol 06:50 JesseH If I shave a tree of its leaves, will they grow back? 06:51 LemonLake nein 06:52 JesseH Is that yes? :P 06:52 LemonLake That means no. 06:52 JesseH Oh okay 06:52 JesseH Well poop. :( 06:52 LemonLake That's a cool idea, though. 06:52 LemonLake Might make a mod that does that. 06:53 sylph Hello 06:53 sylph Hi 06:54 Jordach tl;dr i borked my internal clock 06:54 sylph Just wanted to say that the new update hasn't been mentioned on Reddit. 06:54 sylph So it should be mentioned to get more publicity 06:55 Jordach sfan5, 7-1! 06:56 JesseH Cactus is cool because you can use what you get to make more. But I haven;t found a use for it. Except as a self-growing wall 06:56 Jordach it does keep mobs out 06:56 hoodedice hello Jordach 06:56 kaeza sfan5, 7-1! wat 06:56 kaeza just... WTF Brazil? 06:57 Jordach kaeza, Germans got 7 goals against brazil :3 06:57 JesseH For some reason, the cactus doesnt hurt when I touch it. 06:57 sylph So should I mention it on Reddit? 06:57 Jordach JesseH, never has, never will 06:57 hoodedice Jordach: want to play your games? just ping me 06:57 JesseH :( 06:57 kaeza JesseH, o/ 06:57 JesseH Oh it works as fuel for a furnace too! That's useful 06:57 JesseH I will now start a cactus farm 06:57 JesseH kaeza, yoyo 06:57 sylph btw are the new mods compatible with the new version? 06:58 hoodedice sylph, go ahead 06:58 Jordach hoodedice, MOOOOOOOVE 06:58 hoodedice I JUST STARTED 06:58 Jordach TF2 got beta maps 06:58 hoodedice okay 06:58 Jordach GTFO 06:59 hoodedice k 06:59 hoodedice sylph, go ahead 07:00 kaeza sylph, most mods are compatible, yes, as the API has not changed much 07:00 LemonLake さようなら 07:01 kaeza (with the obvious exception of mods in "Old Mods" section) 07:02 * kaeza should really finish his xban2 GUI 07:02 kaeza and firearms not working, and homedecor locked signs, and... too much in TODO.txt :< 07:03 hoodedice Just wanted to say that the new update hasn't been mentioned on Reddit. 07:03 hoodedice r/Minetest front page 07:03 hoodedice "Minetest 0.4.10 released!" sfan5, 2 days ago 07:04 sylph huh 07:04 sylph Couldn't find it by searching 07:04 hoodedice http://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/2a029b/minetest_0410_released/ 07:04 hoodedice FRONT PAGE 07:04 hoodedice It's like 07:04 hoodedice 7 upvotes and shiz mate 07:04 hoodedice HOW DID YOU MISS THAT?! 07:04 kaeza Jordach, you haven't fixed the animated chests yet :( 07:04 * kaeza slaps hoodedice 07:04 hoodedice I AM GOING FULL RETARD, I SHOULD NOT GO FULL RETARD 07:05 hoodedice ow 07:05 hoodedice thanks kaeza 07:06 sylph Which is the best mob mod? 07:07 sylph I want something that I can work on and improve. 07:07 sylph Like, something semi-cannon 07:07 hoodedice THere is stu's mob framework 07:07 hoodedice Best in my opinion, but no longer actively updated 07:08 hoodedice So I would recommend MitseaKitsune's Creatures 07:08 JesseH How can I set fires? 07:08 JesseH Seems ill need lava 07:09 sylph I found it in Creative, Jess, but not sure about survival 07:10 sylph Woah 07:10 sylph In MirceaKitsune'a mod, 07:10 sylph I can play with the mobs! 07:10 sylph I've been waiting forever for minecraft to implenet that 07:15 hoodedice sylph: Minecraft? 07:16 hummeleBop mine-what ? 07:18 JesseH so, ive been digging down for a while 07:18 sylph -.- 07:18 sylph Nvm 07:18 JesseH not sure whats going on 07:18 JesseH where da lava at? ;) 07:19 kaeza right under you >:D 07:19 kaeza it can appear anywhere 07:19 JesseH Lets hope I dont step on it 07:21 JesseH Im not even digging stairs down, im just digging down. 07:21 JesseH I'm eager to meet my firey maker? 07:26 sylph Just a question. 07:26 sylph When a mod is added to the core game, 07:26 sylph is its code changed to C or is it kept as Lau? 07:29 JesseH I just fell into a cave and died :P 07:29 JesseH How will I get down there to fetch my stuff 07:37 JesseH Well, luckily I had some ladders at the house...couldnt find lava though...no burning man tonight 07:42 telek1 sylph: lua 07:45 JesseH LUA 07:46 JesseH https://github.com/mniip/LUA 07:49 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add spaces around operators in boat mod code, fix a problem with boat staticdata, fix a crash that can occur with boat going over unknown nodes. c993e14 2014-07-09T09:47:51+02:00 http://git.io/2bVkkg 07:53 Krock moin 07:54 PenguinDad hi Krock 07:56 Krock hi PenguinDad 08:20 hoodedice Morning Europeans 08:27 Ragnar hello 08:27 Ragnar =) 08:27 Guest49241 well crap... 08:28 sfan5 meow 08:28 sfan5 hi everyone 08:29 _Ragnar ok im back 08:29 _Ragnar sfan5 08:29 _Ragnar i am very sorry for the s##t i have done. please don't +q me =/ 08:30 _Ragnar i came here to ask about modding... 08:30 * sfan5 meows at hoodedice 08:31 hoodedice Hello, my German brother 08:31 _Ragnar sfan5, is it possible to make a player partially invisible_ 08:31 _Ragnar ? 08:31 sfan5 no 08:31 _Ragnar crap 08:31 hoodedice sfan, alpha? 08:31 hoodedice change texture, use transparent PNG? 08:31 _Ragnar that is a possibility, yes... 08:31 hoodedice Ragnar, try it! 08:32 _Ragnar but that would mean that i'll make 8 player skins + 8 58% transparent skins + 3 more skins with transparenty 08:32 _Ragnar i will 08:32 _Ragnar but will it work with the 3D players too? 08:33 _Ragnar hi jp 08:33 jp Hi. 08:33 _Ragnar how's the server going? 08:33 jp Down for the moment. Back in few hours. 08:33 _Ragnar ok 08:34 _Ragnar now hoodedice... it is possible to change the 3D player skins to be different in-game right? with a bit of code in the mod? 08:34 hoodedice dude 08:34 hoodedice there is a player.png file in the minetest folders 08:34 hoodedice find it 08:34 _Ragnar i know 08:35 hoodedice change that image 08:35 hoodedice in game, yes there are mods 08:35 _Ragnar but i mean like i want there to be 8 kinds of skins at the same time... 08:35 hoodedice but for scratch testing for now, just do this 08:35 _Ragnar i know 08:35 hoodedice what do you want to do? 08:35 _Ragnar because i'm making a War3FT mod 08:36 _Ragnar with 8 races 08:36 * _Ragnar is discluding the Chameleon race 08:36 sfan5 hoodedice: I dunno whether that works 08:36 hoodedice !g War3ft 08:36 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://www.war3ft.com/ 08:37 _Ragnar you found it :D 08:37 _Ragnar it's a CS 1.6 mod 08:37 _Ragnar that i adore 08:37 _Ragnar i need the invisibility for the human race and for the Cloak of Shadows 08:38 _Ragnar sfan5, is it possible to show a player a GUI when entering a command? 08:38 sfan5 sure 08:38 _Ragnar great 08:39 _Ragnar sfan5, would it be possible (tho) to create an invisibility parameter to players inside the engine? 08:39 hoodedice It is 08:39 sfan5 ofc 08:39 _Ragnar great... 08:39 hoodedice Anything is possible within the engine 08:40 _Ragnar i like the sound of that :D 08:40 hoodedice And I think it is an easy thing too... 08:40 _Ragnar great-er :D 08:40 _Ragnar will there be a Minetest 0.4.11? 08:40 * Krock meows at sfan5 08:40 * sfan5 purrs 08:40 _Ragnar or will it go to 0.5 08:41 _Ragnar much kittehz, very purrs, wow 08:41 * Krock gives _Ragnar https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?milestone=4&state=open 08:42 _Ragnar oh 08:42 _Ragnar so i should post it there? 08:43 Krock post? what? 08:43 Krock that's the answer on your latest question 08:44 Jordach sfan5, 7-1 08:44 Jordach wooooo 08:44 sfan5 Jordach: ik, woooooo 08:45 hoodedice wooooooo 08:45 hoodedice football 08:45 Jordach +1 for correct spelling 08:47 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/Qz9dK96 08:47 hoodedice of course 08:47 hoodedice Growing up in an Arab country and shiz 08:48 hoodedice bbl 08:49 hoodedice sfan5, screenies got fixed? 08:49 sfan5 I don't think they got 08:50 _Ragnar sfan5, if you would to add transparency to the player model, how long would it take? 08:50 _Ragnar :D 08:50 hoodedice sfan, we also got some bugs in the MinGW build 08:50 kaeza Jordach, https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6368679680/h5C4AEE92/ 08:51 sfan5 _Ragnar: I'm pretty sure that already works 08:51 _Ragnar i mean as a parameter 08:51 _Ragnar not in the skin 08:51 sfan5 dunno 08:51 sfan5 not long 08:51 _Ragnar so that i could change the players transparency with code 08:51 hoodedice Ragnar, do you mean "How long would it take to implement invisibility in the main engine code?" 08:51 _Ragnar yes 08:52 hoodedice "So that I can be lazy and instead of implementing a mod that changes the player skin to transparent on a button press... 08:52 hoodedice ... I can bug some really busy people to do something that is not needed very badly." 08:52 _Ragnar don't do this 08:52 hoodedice Dude 08:52 hoodedice You can do it 08:53 _Ragnar i don't know any C/C++ 08:53 hoodedice You don't NEED any 08:53 _Ragnar hokay? 08:53 hoodedice We have an extensive server side lua based modding system 08:53 _Ragnar and how should i do it with lua? 08:53 hoodedice You can do this: make a sorta item that changes player texture on use 08:54 _Ragnar because i just want to be able to change the player transparency in-game without making a f##kload of skins 08:54 hoodedice You don't need to make a shitload of skins. The way I see it, you need only 1 08:54 hoodedice Unless you want to add fx 08:56 hoodedice do you get it? 08:57 Jordach sfan5, Braz17 :D 08:57 _Ragnar no.... 08:57 hoodedice _Ragnar: Yeah it works, setting alpha to 0 does render an invisible player 08:57 _Ragnar i actually don't... sorry... =| 08:57 hoodedice okay 08:57 _Ragnar within lua? 08:57 _Ragnar cool 08:58 _Ragnar i'll try that.... :O 08:58 hoodedice Ok listen 08:58 hoodedice Download this mod: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9680 08:58 hoodedice Then find the character.png in your minetest_next folder 08:58 hoodedice Edit it and make it transparent 08:59 hoodedice Then save it as something else, and add it into this mod I linked 08:59 hoodedice Switch the skin by using the mod 08:59 hoodedice Press F7, voila, invisible 09:00 hoodedice Now rewrite the mod so that the player skin switches on use of an item 09:00 _Ragnar i will have 8 races, each can buy the Cloak of Shadows (makes the player 58% invisible) and one race can use that + has a skill that makes him invisible about 10% 09:01 _Ragnar that would mean 2*8+3 skins 09:01 _Ragnar 19 09:01 hoodedice That;s a lot of skins, but not a lot of work 09:01 hoodedice =D 09:01 hoodedice This is hacking 09:02 hoodedice Finding ways around the API to do stuff that is seemingly not possible on the first look 09:02 _Ragnar i know 09:02 hoodedice Good 09:02 _Ragnar but could lua change the transparency of an image? 09:02 hoodedice Are you a year older than the last time you were here? 09:03 hoodedice AFAIK, lua in minetest does not have image manipulation capabilities 09:03 _Ragnar ofc i am 09:03 _Ragnar well that sucks... 09:03 hoodedice !g lua image manipulation 09:03 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LibrariesAndBindings 09:04 hoodedice sfan, what is this? http://irrlua.sourceforge.net/ 09:04 _Ragnar IrrLua is a Lua binding for the Irrlicht 3D rendering engine. 09:04 hoodedice I can read that 09:04 hoodedice haha 09:05 hoodedice But, is it the one we use in MT?! 09:05 hoodedice I thought ours was a custom implementation 09:05 _Ragnar hmm...... 09:09 _Ragnar hoodedice 09:09 hoodedice what 09:09 _Ragnar did you know that c55 is celeron55... 09:09 _Ragnar and celeron is an intel cpy 09:09 _Ragnar cpu 09:09 * hoodedice facepalms 09:09 _Ragnar thus copyright stuff 09:09 hoodedice I HAVE AN INTEL CELERON MYSELF, I LOVE IT VERY MUCH AND YES I KNOW THAT C55 IS CELERON55 09:09 _Ragnar or patent stuff... :D 09:09 hoodedice I AM MARKED AS AWAY. 09:10 * Krock haz Intel Celeron (R)(C)(TM) D 09:10 _Ragnar i also have intel celeron 09:10 _Ragnar 2.35GHz 09:10 _Ragnar single core 09:10 _Ragnar also 768MB RAM 09:10 _Ragnar 128MB GPU 09:10 * hoodedice has dual Intel Celeron1005M @1.9GHz with an intel HD 2500 09:10 _Ragnar and Windows 7 Ultimate 09:10 * Krock slaps _Ragnar with 1x @3.06GHz 09:11 * hoodedice blows all the other celerons out of the water 09:11 _Ragnar screw you 09:11 * hoodedice slaps Krock with DUAL FUCKING CORES 09:11 * Krock slaps hoodedice with OMG SINGLECORE_SUCH_CLASSIC_AND_NOSTALGY 09:12 * hoodedice slaps Krock with 0.4.10 at 40+ fps with shaders and shiz 09:12 * PenguinDad slaps Krock with ®©™ 09:12 * Krock slaps hoodedice with 0.4.10-dev_MSVC at 30- fps without shaders and shiz 09:12 * Krock gives PenguinDad © 09:12 hoodedice when did you get a dev build?! 09:12 Krock whenever I want ^ 09:12 * hoodedice is now seriously away 09:13 Krock I can build my devs self :P 09:13 PenguinDad Krock: you can build your own PilzAdam? :P 09:14 Krock PenguinDad, PilzAdam is too poisoned 09:14 Krock *toxic 09:14 Krock :3 09:15 Krock I'd die when I tried to build it 09:16 PenguinDad > it 09:16 * Krock created a /regenerate_terrain_omg_such_amazing-chatcommand 09:16 Krock adam yes, pilz no 09:19 * Krock gives PenguinDad some ddiscussion stuff 09:19 Ragnar_droid Hi 09:20 Jordach sfan5, http://imgur.com/gallery/Voy1J 09:20 Ragnar_droid For those who dont know what an droid is, an droid is android 09:20 * Krock steals Ragnardroid's _ 09:21 * Jordach slaps Ragnar_droid, Krock and hoodedice with an AMD A10 APU @ 4.1GHZ 09:21 Ragnar_droid Oh noes 09:21 Ragnar_droid IMPOSSIBRU 09:21 * Krock gives Jordach a cookie 09:21 Jordach i can always bump that shit upto ~6.8 GHZ 09:21 Krock u don't say? 09:21 sfan5 Jordach, meow 09:21 Ragnar_droid Dafuq dood... How is that even possibru 09:22 Krock NEOW 09:22 Ragnar_droid i7? 09:22 Jordach !c 105*63 09:22 MinetestBot 6615 09:23 Ragnar_droid Jordac... What cpu do u has 09:23 Ragnar_droid Doz 4 crappy eng. Im@phone 09:23 Ragnar_droid Soz* 09:23 PenguinDad Ragnar_droid: AMD A10 APU 09:23 Ragnar_droid Oh right 09:24 PenguinDad lol there are Mahogany tables in homedecor 09:25 Ragnar_droid I have an ati radeon 9800 09:25 Jordach https://mediacru.sh/09f729e4e40e 09:25 Jordach bite me 09:25 Ragnar_droid Suck that, APU 09:25 Jordach Ragnar_droid, enjoy CPU death at 75C 09:25 Jordach mine went to 85 and can go onwards 09:25 Jordach (they made these fackers out of the same shit as a GPU) 09:27 Ragnar_droid Jordach... I use toothpaste on my cpu.... No way its gonna die 09:29 Krock !c 4000/288 09:29 MinetestBot 13 09:29 Ragnar_droid Jordach.. Y u no impressed w/ win7u with 768mb of ddr1ram and a 30gb hdd (ide) 09:29 Krock !c 4000.0/288.0 09:29 MinetestBot 13.88888888888889 09:30 Ragnar_droid Krock 09:30 Krock Jordach, your CPU is about 14 times faster than mine :'( 09:30 Ragnar_droid Guess what android im using 09:30 Krock ^smartphone android 09:30 Ragnar_droid Thats because he has a Gpu built in his Cpu 09:31 Ragnar_droid CPU+GPU=APU 09:32 Krock still 14 times faster, even when I add my GPU to the CPU benchmark... 09:32 * Krock switches topics 09:32 Ragnar_droid Jordach has an Apu... Whoop de doo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/Apu_Nahasapeemapetilon_%28The_Simpsons%29.png 09:34 Ragnar_droid Krock. U got any of dem DDR1 rams? 09:36 Ragnar_droid Hey jordach. Hows it goin 09:46 Krock wut? M$ deleted the update page? 09:49 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban2/commits/master 10:00 rubenwardy Hi all! 10:03 Ragnar_droid Hi 10:11 Krock oh hi rubenwardy 10:12 Krock ok. 10:15 Calinou hi 10:16 jp Salut 10:16 * PenguinDad just had a game idea 10:17 Krock hi Calinou, jp, * 10:34 rubenwardy Why are the topics in 'builds' stickies? 10:36 Krock cuz they got moved only 10:37 rubenwardy ok 10:37 Krock they keep their attributes if none removes the glue 10:37 rubenwardy So no conscious reason 10:37 Krock yup 10:38 rubenwardy !seen EvergreenTree 10:38 MinetestBot rubenwardy: evergreentree was last seen at 2014-07-09 03:52:56 UTC on #minetest 10:43 Krock eeh. 10:43 Krock http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#!page:1,filter:lovehart,filtertype:Author, 10:44 rubenwardy !tell EvergreenTree https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L23 try changing to find_package(PNG version REQUIRED) where version is the version of libpng. ie: find_package(PNG 12.3.6 REQUIRED). If it doesn't work, fiddle around with quotes ("12.3.6") and full versions (libpng-12.3.6) 10:44 MinetestBot rubenwardy: I'll pass that on when EvergreenTree is around 10:44 Krock o.o 10:47 PenguinDad Krocĸ: O.O 10:48 Krock $.$ 10:49 PenguinDad €.€ 10:49 Krock £.£ 10:50 * sfan5 meows at Krock 10:50 * Krock meows at sfan5 10:52 PenguinDad ¤.¤ 10:52 Krock  11:01 PenguinDad Oh noes mg broke! http://sprunge.us/jNZY 11:01 sfan5 PenguinDad: wat 11:03 VanessaE I wonder if... 11:03 * VanessaE checks her logs 11:05 VanessaE nope, no errors like that in my logs of the MG server I run 11:05 * Krock writes visual = " http://paneladebarrorestaurant.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Sprite-Soda.png " into his codes 11:06 VanessaE of course hardly no one even signs onto that server, much less plays it, so it's hard to be sure 11:07 PenguinDad https://github.com/Novatux/mg/commit/2eec47b9ed78250b2a6f5ca984726c34c65ee378#diff-a19d733b8206b789bf84a5efeee58eecL24 11:09 sfan5 Jordach: https://www.google.de/logos/doodles/2014/world-cup-2014-58-6288520071086080.4-hp.gif 11:23 nore PenguinDad: oops 11:25 nore should be fixed now :) 11:25 Jordach sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/AuyZxKGDvsgs.png 11:26 sfan5 lol 11:27 rubenwardy Krock, sprite XD 11:28 Krock wooo! someone saw it! 11:43 Krock rubenwardy, can you solve this maths riddle? 11:43 Krock 1 11:43 Krock 11 11:43 Krock 21 11:43 Krock 1211 11:43 Krock tell me the next number :3 11:45 rubenwardy 111221 11:45 Krock rubenwardy, ninja'd by nore 11:46 rubenwardy Well sorry, I was busy coding 11:46 nore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look-and-say_sequence 11:49 Lugal Are there any Zombies, skeletons and creepers in minetest like in Minecraft? 11:51 rubenwardy See mobf 11:51 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8638 11:51 rubenwardy Simplemobs also adds mobs, but not those listed 11:51 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9656 11:54 Lugal is the game and the mode coded only by using text editor, or do you have a graphical model / world editor? 11:56 sfan5 there is a node box editor 11:56 sfan5 but the rest is done with a text editor 11:57 Krock graphical model? blender 11:59 Lugal k, thanks 12:06 rubenwardy For mobs you use blender or another 3d modelling program. For nodes (aka blocks), such as stairs, chairs, etc you use node boxes. 12:07 PenguinDad nore: it still crashes http://sprunge.us/jEji 12:08 nore oops... some local that shouldn't be here 12:09 Lugal and is there a standart 3d model format/file-extension or does each editor use its own? 12:09 nore PenguinDad: better now? 12:10 rubenwardy Lugal: *.x is the most commonly used format, but .3ds and others work too 12:11 PenguinDad nore: it still doesn't work 12:11 PenguinDad 14:10:49: ERROR[main]: ServerError: /home/vinyl/Minetest/minetest/bin/../mods/mg/init.lua:718: attempt to call upvalue 'villages_at_point' (a nil value) 12:12 nore PenguinDad, try again now, it should work 12:14 PenguinDad nore: it's fixed now 12:14 nore ah, good 12:20 Jordach rubenwardy, unless you happen to be me 12:20 Jordach then i use a mob / node :3 12:23 PenguinDad mob + node = mobe 13:33 Krock 1 hour no talk... 13:34 Zeno` I've been talking 13:34 Zeno` To myself 13:35 Zeno` Krock, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9686 13:35 Zeno` ^-- have you noticed any server performance issues? 13:35 Krock nope.avi 13:35 Krock it was already worse than it is now 13:37 Zeno` I dunno... I can find the exact commit sapier made, but *for me* server performance is hugely improved 13:37 Zeno` I dunno 13:37 Zeno` most people think me crazy anyway 13:38 SylvieLorxu Does anyone know anything about the licenses of mods in the Minetest mod browser? 13:38 Krock mod browser? 13:39 SylvieLorxu Mods -> Online mod repository 13:40 SylvieLorxu My git build has that :x 13:40 Krock oh that one 13:40 Krock it's broken for me :3 13:40 SylvieLorxu It works for me but I don't see a license anywhere 13:40 Krock mostly,it's WTFPL 13:41 SylvieLorxu WTFPL is the best license 13:41 SylvieLorxu But still, having that info is something I want readily available because MY FREEDOM :P 13:41 SylvieLorxu Maybe I should file a bug report on it 14:03 Krock split 14:06 * PenguinDad has quit (*.net *.split) 14:06 VanessaE splatsplit :) 14:07 Krock no. 14:07 Krock splitsplat 14:07 VanessaE (well, fake split anyway ;) ) 14:07 VanessaE no, it's splatsplit dammit ;) 14:07 VanessaE * = splat 14:11 Krock http://i.imgur.com/2c1Gs2E.png 14:11 VanessaE interesting biome algorithm. 14:12 VanessaE the patterns look familiar somehow... 14:12 PenguinDad Krock: your mapgen? 14:12 Krock ice is missing...seems like it needs some work more 14:12 Krock PenguinDad, yup 14:12 nore Krock: this is not perlin noise, am I right? 14:12 Krock it's perlin 14:12 Krock 5x 14:13 nore what do you mean, 5x? 14:13 Krock 5 perlin maps are used 14:13 nore ah, ok :) 14:53 Krock hmm 14:53 Krock every 3rd map generation request is a duplicate 14:55 Krock and somehow, the voxelmanip as mapgen object is much faster than the normal 15:01 PenguinDad Krock: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1270-1272 15:03 Krock PenguinDad, I think it's not releated to the function. It could be because the vmanip as non-mapgen doesn't modify just one complete chunk 15:05 PenguinDad Krock: chunk? 15:05 Krock map block* 15:09 PenguinDad Krock: the mapgen vmanip modifies 125 map blocks at once 15:09 Krock ^depends on map_meta.txt "chunksize = 4" 15:11 PenguinDad if you don't modify the chunksize setting it modifies 125 map blocks 15:11 Krock yes. 15:12 * PenguinDad doesn't want to try "chunksize = 50" 15:23 Jordach i have a grave feeling about this https://cdn.mediacru.sh/gjzELK4bARd0.png 15:23 Krock http://i.imgur.com/uoEiypC.png 15:29 hoodedice Krock, tat looks awesome 15:30 Krock thx 15:31 hoodedice Zeno', I think this release is the best I have ever seen, better than 0.4.3 and even 0.4.8 15:33 hoodedice Hi Calinou 15:33 Jordach Calinou, jumping then placing a block below you is broken in carbone 15:34 Calinou engine problem 15:34 Calinou the jump height in Carbone is reduced, as well as gravity, to feel better 15:34 Jordach Calinou, might be physics 15:35 Calinou you may want to Shift + jump (ugh, another engine bug) to circumvent this 15:35 Calinou yes, exactly 15:35 Jordach because i can do it easily in my own game :3 15:35 Calinou intentionally 15:35 Calinou try shift-jumping to jump higher 15:35 Calinou blame engine devs for not letting players place blocks inside them 15:35 Calinou (which should be allowed, it's part of Minetest now) 15:35 Calinou add suffocation damage if it's not enough… 15:36 VanessaE Calinou: that was just fixed in _game. works fine there. 15:36 Krock updated https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9331 15:36 VanessaE well as fixed as it can get anyway 15:36 Calinou increasing the jump height isn't a solution, else it feels like you're playing Bumpy Moose 15:36 Calinou the C++ code should be fixed 15:37 VanessaE Calinou: I'm pretty sure my server is up-to-date: I can place blocks inside myself . is that a client-side bug/fix then? 15:38 VanessaE my client is at HEAD> 15:38 Calinou the check is client-side, it's disabled if noclip is enabled. 15:38 Calinou you can disable such a thing with a client-side mod 15:38 Calinou (thank Minetest for not being Red Eclipse) 15:38 VanessaE and so is my server 15:38 VanessaE ah yeah noclip is turned on, but I'm not flying. 15:38 Calinou noclip on also disables the black screen when inside a block 15:39 Lugal1 how can I change the game speed? 15:39 VanessaE server and client are both at HEAD. anyway yeah, I had noclip on but I thought that switch was only supposed to be meaningful while flying? who changed that> 15:39 VanessaE Lugal1: the game speed? 15:39 VanessaE what do you mean? 15:40 Krock press H J K and then W + E in combination 15:40 Calinou movement speed, jump height and gravity can be changed in Carbone using commands 15:40 VanessaE Krock: please don't confuse people .... 15:40 VanessaE Lugal1: are you talking about walk/run speed or something else? 15:41 hoodedice lol Krock 15:41 Krock VanessaE, why confuse? You can understand that question on diffrent ways 15:41 hoodedice Krock, I just saw in the map that your ice biome has terrain height differences 15:41 VanessaE Krock: yse and his question is clearly confused... when you throw a bunch of random-sounding keys at him, you confuse him further. 15:42 VanessaE yes* 15:42 hoodedice Lugal1, are you still there? 15:42 Krock VanessaE, why random? I just don't know which one of themis fas_mode by default :3 15:42 hoodedice And I don't think that an ice biome having mountains is realistic 15:42 Krock hoodedice, yes. It has some elevation.. 15:42 Krock titanic? 15:42 VanessaE Krock: he didn't say if he's on a server or singleplayer, or whether he even has the necessary privs to activate those modes. 15:42 hoodedice Those are icebergs 15:43 Krock VanessaE, whatever.. we don't even know if (s)he is still reading the chat 15:43 VanessaE true 15:43 Krock sso.. :3 15:43 hoodedice but due to physics, it is impossible for ice to form mountains, unless a huge chuck broke off and fell to a lower elevation, but then again, it would melt due to the higher elevation 15:44 Lugal1 yes, walt run speed and build/dig speed 15:44 hoodedice And again, ice forms when there is a lot of standing water, like a lake 15:44 Krock hoodedice, wut? melt because it has a higher elevation? 15:44 hoodedice no no 15:44 hoodedice Lugal, to increase run speed in singleplayer, use /grant singleplayer fast 15:44 hoodedice And then press E while moving 15:45 VanessaE Lugal1: dig speed is dependent on the tool you are using. walk speed is fixed. run speed, if you are allowed to run, is turned on by holding 'e' while you walk and is 20 m/sec 15:45 Krock hoodedice, you forgot to tell about "enable fast_mode" :P 15:45 hoodedice To increase mining speed, use a better tool 15:45 VanessaE building nodes is at a fixed speed. 15:45 hoodedice Oh and press 'k' to turn fast_mode on or off after /grant singleplayer fast 15:45 VanessaE you can increase those 'fixed' speeds by perhaps using a different game, as Calinou suggested. 15:46 Krock ..or creative mode 15:46 Krock -e 15:46 VanessaE Krock: not always. 15:46 Krock but mostly 15:46 Calinou VanessaE, I should ask the minetest_game developers to merge such things to minetest_game, same for the damage sounds 15:46 Calinou but they may refuse doing it :( 15:46 VanessaE Calinou: try anyway 15:47 VanessaE it's sfan5, nore and BlockMen you're dealing with now, not Pilz :) 15:47 * sfan5 meows 15:47 hoodedice Krock, I was saying, that ice mountains are possible if a huge chunck of them from a higher elevation (where it is colder) broke off and fell to a lower elevation, but then the ice would melt because it would be hotter 15:47 VanessaE see? 15:47 hoodedice lel 15:47 Krock VanessaE, don't call him Pilz! 15:48 VanessaE Krock: I did that as a joke :) 15:48 Krock hoodedice, true. I'll try to change that a bit 15:48 * PilzAdam gives Krock a cookie 15:48 * hoodedice steal the cookie 15:48 VanessaE sfan5: you guys willing to entertain better ingot textures? even if they use a full 16px width? nore has a trial image here...somewhere 15:48 * hoodedice can't eat the cookie, though. 15:49 sfan5 VadtecWk: pull and we'll see 15:49 VanessaE tab complete FAIL :) 15:49 * Krock grabs hoodedice's stolen cookie and noms it 15:49 hoodedice Krock, you made it sound wrong 15:49 Krock grammar 15:49 VanessaE /kick Vadtec stop fucking up sfan5's tab ordering ;) 15:49 hoodedice It should be "Krock grabs his stolen cookie..." 15:50 * Krock troutgrammarnazislaps hoodedice 15:50 Lugal1 ok, thanks, the H J K helped me :) 15:50 * hoodedice ducks 15:50 Krock ^^^^^^ 15:50 Calinou VanessaE, I resized ingots from 16 × 17 to 16 × 16 in Carbone and improved them a bit 15:50 Calinou especially gold 15:50 hoodedice =O 15:50 sfan5 VanessaE: I've had enough of this, I'll tell xchat to sort tab list by last action 15:50 hoodedice lol Krock 15:50 Calinou VanessaE, I asked in ##minetest-next about commands.lua 15:50 VanessaE sfan5: I thought I did that already but it still fails once in a while 15:50 Calinou but the ideal would be to have that stuff in builtin 15:50 Vadtec fair nuff 15:51 VanessaE I was kidding! :( 15:51 hoodedice I sense a ragequit 15:51 * VanessaE wonders if he reads the logs 15:51 VanessaE get back in here Vadtek :P 15:52 Vadtec dont midn me 15:52 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1464 SHould this be an issue? 15:52 Vadtec im bored 15:52 VanessaE HA, he DOES read the logs :D 15:53 VanessaE (and I can't spell, either) 15:53 VadtecWk indeed i do 15:53 VadtecWk i just have ZERO time for gaming these days 15:54 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463 Now I am angry... I told him not to be lazy, and blah blah but he still went ahead and bugged the devs 15:54 Lugal1 "enable fast_mode" doesnt work :( 15:55 Lugal1 enable command not found 15:55 VanessaE Lugal1: press J 15:55 VanessaE then hold "e" to actually run fast 15:55 VanessaE (or press J again if you already did once) 15:55 VanessaE we don't use chatcommands for the simpler functions like that 15:56 * sfan5 meows at VanessaE 15:56 VanessaE meow :) 15:56 VadtecWk maybe at the end of summer ill be less time constrained and can get back into minetest, ive really missed world buidling, and my kids are annoyed that i havent setup a server for them again 15:57 VanessaE sfan5: I'll leave it to nore to actually issue the pull request when he's ready; he dcc'd the candidate texture to me but I don't wanna just randomly shoot it off to someone else without his say-so 15:57 Lugal1 ok, all works now :) 15:57 Lugal1 but another problem 15:57 hoodedice Too fast? 15:57 VadtecWk until then, i guess ill keep fucking up tab completes.... 15:57 hoodedice haha 15:57 VadtecWk ;P 15:57 VanessaE VadtecWk: I was only kidding :( 15:57 VadtecWk :P 15:57 Lugal1 the creature mod doent work . I have "unknown object" instead of the creatures. why? 15:58 VanessaE Lugal1: Are you running 0.4.10? 15:58 VadtecWk i will say this though, i hate seeing all the cool ideas and features and coding flow by and not being able to play minetest... more than once ive almost downloaded it here at work to give it a whirl...but that might not go well with the bosses 15:58 Krock hoodedice, do you think, the ice biome needs snow blocks on it? 15:58 VadtecWk keep up the good work coders 15:59 hoodedice You could interspread ice with the snow 15:59 hoodedice in a snow biome 15:59 hoodedice or make ice sheets 15:59 VanessaE VadtecWk: well, VNC to your machine at home ;) 15:59 Krock hmm okay 15:59 hoodedice you could try adding spike of ice at the top of mountains, or an ice cliff 15:59 VanessaE it'd be slow but then you could make the argument that it's an admin tool :) 15:59 VadtecWk VanessaE, oh i do (how do you think Vadtec /parted), but that doesnt solve the real issue of "gaming at work" lol 16:00 Lugal1 yes 0.4.10 16:00 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463 #rant 16:00 VadtecWk LOL i wish 16:00 VadtecWk but i work in IT 16:00 VadtecWk so they know better 16:00 VanessaE Vadtec: right but at least the boss couldn't accuse you of installing a game ;) 16:00 VanessaE Lugal1: ok that at least good. is the actual creatures mod up-to-date? Where did you download it from - I mean, what is the link? 16:01 VadtecWk VanessaE, i tried a few months ago, internet is to laggy to make it playable :( 16:01 Lugal1 I tried 3 . 2 from website, one installed from the menu in game 16:02 * VanessaE pokes Taoki 16:02 VadtecWk anyways, sorry for messin up tab complete, id rather be chatting about minetest than just reading the logs, but i gotta get back to work, these PCs wont set themselves up (sadly because we have no PXE server to make that possible) 16:03 VanessaE cya VanessaE 16:03 VanessaE fuck 16:03 VanessaE now I did it :P 16:03 VanessaE cya Vadtec 16:03 VadtecWk LOL 16:03 VadtecWk i needed that 16:03 Calinou you said cya to yourself 16:04 VanessaE Lugal1: I can't begin to guess when 3.2 was released, but I would have to venture a guess that it's merely out of date. uninstall it, make sure it's completely gone, and then fetch a new copy from here: https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_mods_creatures/archive/master.zip 16:04 VanessaE (that's the official download link) 16:04 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/P3ytKjW4 16:04 VanessaE install this to your minetest mods folder. 16:05 Lugal1 no 16:05 VanessaE rename it to just "creatures" after you unzip it 16:05 Taoki VanessaE: hi 16:05 Lugal1 I mean I tried 3 mods 16:05 Lugal1 2 of them from the website 16:05 VanessaE OH ok 16:05 VanessaE hoodedice: bad link, but the result is funny anyway :) 16:06 hoodedice lolwut 16:06 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/P3ytKjW 16:06 VanessaE Lugal1: right. so, uninstall whatever you have and try the link I just gave 16:06 hoodedice 4 jumped on the bandwagon haha 16:10 Lugal1 LuaEntity name: "mobs:rat" not defined.... thats the error, and I still see no monsters 16:11 hoodedice VanessaE: Is the TravisCI thing opt-in? 16:11 VanessaE sfan5: catch 16:11 VanessaE hoodedice: automatic, I think 16:11 * sfan5 catched 16:11 VanessaE sfan5: this is the image nore created. 16:12 hoodedice Because I feel uncomfortable with all the energy waste going to builds, even when the commit is a simple lua_api.txt change 16:13 Taoki Sorry, hard to keep up with that now. An error with Creatures? 16:14 Lugal1 ok, monsters work, but animals dont :( 16:14 VanessaE Taoki: creatures is/was spawning unknown entities, according to Lugal1 16:14 VanessaE sfan5: is that a go, no-go, gtfo? :) 16:14 sfan5 VanessaE: finally something that looks like a read ingot 16:14 VanessaE woo! 16:14 Taoki Lugal1: Did you use an old version and now update? Some entity definitions changed, you'll need to do /clearobjects or create a new world 16:14 * sfan5 gives VanessaE a small sign with "yay!" written on it 16:15 VanessaE haha 16:15 sfan5 you can use that coupon for the pull request 16:15 sfan5 :P 16:15 VanessaE lol 16:15 * VanessaE hands the coupon to nore 16:16 nore sfan5: ok, I'll do the others in a few hours then but first, I'll play technic a bit :) 16:16 sfan5 k 16:16 sfan5 Lugal1: you asked about the mesh formats, right? http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/features/#supportedformats 16:18 hoodedice ohoy sfan https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9700&view=unread#p147759 16:19 sfan5 all of sfan5's have no audio for me 16:19 sfan5 was able to reproduce 16:19 sfan5 but too lazy to fix 16:20 Lugal1 yes, I used old world, and installed new mods, thats the reason? 16:21 Lugal1 I gtg now, sorry, I come later, cya 16:38 hoodedice Should I continue work on that manual I was gonna make for the game? 16:39 sfan5 hoodedice: why not? 16:39 hoodedice k, I will; on the other hand I will first finish off that globeminner thing which I never got around to finishng haha 16:42 hoodedice sfan http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox 16:43 hoodedice Do users of the minetest program have to release modified source code? 16:45 Calinou manual should probably be in the wiki 16:45 asie hoodedice: I think so 16:45 asie Minetest is LGPL, isn't it? 16:45 Calinou don't make it a PDF when you can just put it on the wiki, readable by everyone with only a Web browser 16:45 Calinou asie, yes (2.1) 16:45 asie yup 16:45 Calinou hoodedice, http://openarena.wikia.com → look there for an example of the kind of Manual I'm talking about 16:45 asie hoodedice: if you plan to publish your changes, you need to publish the source code 16:45 asie this does not apply to mods, only to the minetest engine itself 16:47 Calinou most of the default mods are LGPL too 16:47 Calinou my mods are zlib, but WorldEdit is AGPL 3 notably, which means the source code of it must be released if it's put on a server and a player asks for it 16:47 Calinou eg. I connect to WorldEdit server, I see someone modified something in the code; if I ask for source they must give it, because I'm accessing it over a network 16:49 hoodedice Cal, there is already a manual in the wiki, just needs to be fixed up a bit 16:50 hoodedice asie: Can you check this: http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox 16:50 Calinou it's not an open culture license 16:50 Calinou it's a free software license 16:51 hoodedice dun 16:53 Calinou fixing stuff, please don't edit for now 16:54 hoodedice k 16:55 nore sfan5: should I push the new ingot textures, or make a pull request? 16:55 Calinou done 16:55 nman3600 I've got 2 legits nyan cats on your server Krock :D :) :D 16:55 Krock congrats 16:55 nman3600 :) Thanks! 16:58 hoodedice Cal, adding links to Minetest Android builds, I'll get back when article is complete 17:02 twoelk hoodedice: I would think a nice quick reference card, printable on one page might be pretty usefull 17:02 * PenguinDad gives nman3600 the omg-i-found-over-one-nyan-cat badge 17:02 sfan5 nore: pull please 17:02 nore ok 17:02 hoodedice I'll do that twoelk, I'll make a two page quick reference guide =) 17:02 hoodedice Thanks for the tip 17:03 twoelk something one can put beside the keyboard ;-) 17:05 nore sfan5, done :) 17:07 VanessaE Calinou: shall I make new textures for the last couple of moreores ingots based on what I just did using nore's tweaked image? 17:08 Calinou I'd like tin and silver ingots, most importantly 17:08 VanessaE on it. 17:12 VanessaE Calinou: catch. 17:12 Calinou why a DCC 17:12 Calinou my ports aren't forwarded anyway 17:12 sfan5 VanessaE: psst.. https://mediacru.sh 17:12 Calinou (and probably won't) 17:12 VanessaE ok I'll upload it then :P 17:13 sfan5 Calinou: works if only one person has ports forwarded 17:13 Calinou I never understood DCC 17:13 * sfan5 did not have ports fwd'd either 17:13 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/moreores_ingots.zip 17:14 VanessaE (why use mediacru.sh if I have my own server? :P ) 17:14 sfan5 you can set up a MediaCrush instance on your own server too 17:15 VanessaE too lazy :) 17:19 hoodedice sapier, should the android app be considered stable? 17:22 hoodedice Calinou: http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox 17:24 sfan5 hoodedice: no 17:24 hoodedice k 17:30 VanessaE Calinou: well merge already :) 17:32 hoodedice merge what? 17:32 VanessaE hoodedice: the images in the zip I linked. 17:33 hoodedice ah k, srry 17:34 hoodedice I like how two links in the google search result for "Globeminner" point to Minetest 17:35 twoelk hoodedice: you are aware of this page? http://wiki.minetest.net/Overview_of_Minetest_forks 17:36 hoodedice I just saw it 17:37 hoodedice Needs some fixes tho 17:37 twoelk it sure does 17:38 twoelk have been wondering whether something like unofficial "forks" should be added 17:39 twoelk but thenagain I don't want to promote those other versions 17:41 hoodedice In the actual Minetest Infringment article draft that I am publishing now, we did name and shame them. 17:41 hoodedice I decided to leave them out because drama. 17:46 hoodedice twoelf, Minetest M 13 isn't even a real fork 17:57 hoodedice Hai EvergreenTree 17:57 EvergreenTree hai 17:59 PenguinDad shark 18:03 LemonLake sfan5: ニャー 18:03 sfan5 nyan 18:03 LemonLake oh of coures 18:03 LemonLake that's where it comes from :P 18:04 LemonLake ニャー 猫 :P 18:04 PenguinDad Meow cat 18:05 LemonLake nyan cat 18:05 LemonLake ニャー = nya = meow 18:07 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake 18:07 * LemonLake meows at sfan5 18:07 * hoodedice barks at both 18:07 * LemonLake fucks off away from hoodedice 18:08 * PenguinDad squawks at hoodedice 18:08 * hoodedice was not fucking LemonLake in the first place 18:08 * LemonLake never said that 18:08 * hoodedice also never said that 18:09 * sfan5 meows at hoodedice 18:09 * hoodedice licks sfan5 18:09 * sfan5 licks paw 18:09 * Krock hugs everybody 18:09 * LemonLake runs away from Krock 18:09 hoodedice ewwwwwww gay! 18:10 * Krock catches LemonLake 18:10 * LemonLake runs away again 18:10 * PenguinDad gives Krock a cookie 18:10 Krock hugs aren't gay 18:10 hoodedice You didn't say no homo 18:10 hoodedice no homo 18:10 * hoodedice hugs Krock 18:10 VanessaE "It's like a little boy's nursery school I've come upon here." 18:11 Calinou hugs aren't gay indeed 18:11 LemonLake ^ 18:11 LemonLake I just have problems with affection from stranges. 18:11 hoodedice dude 18:11 hoodedice running joke 18:12 sfan5 plol 18:12 LemonLake Jokes can run now? 18:12 LemonLake Since when did that happen? 18:12 sfan5 I just typo'd "local var = 1" as "lolcat var = 1" 18:12 twoelk since running gags? 18:12 Calinou lolcat var = tralse 18:12 * Krock gives sfan5 a cookie 18:12 LemonLake gags can run too? 18:12 LemonLake ew 18:12 PenguinDad sfan5: plol 18:12 * sfan5 meows at Krock 18:13 twoelk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_gag 18:13 LemonLake ew cookies 18:13 sfan5 ew LemonLake 18:13 PenguinDad ew ew 18:13 LemonLake I dislike cookies. 18:13 EvergreenTree cookies are awesome 18:13 LemonLake They give me migraines. Fun stuff. 18:14 PenguinDad since the cake is a lie we need cookies 18:14 EvergreenTree cookies with migraines? where do you get those cookies from? 18:14 EvergreenTree :p 18:14 VanessaE LemonLake: mix in a little ganja and those migraines should go away :) 18:14 hoodedice fun fact: ganja in hindi means bald. 18:15 Calinou oppa ganja style 18:15 LemonLake mix in a little bald... 18:15 LemonLake i 18:15 * twoelk thinks of some space cockies he had in Amsterdam 18:15 LemonLake i don't think that's socially acceptable 18:15 EvergreenTree cockies? eh... 18:15 VanessaE Calinou: well, merge those images already :) 18:15 Jordach twoelk, you were definitely floating 18:15 Jordach i know what they put in those brownies (i sometimes make a batch) 18:16 twoelk driving was interesting after having some 18:16 Calinou these look good 18:16 VanessaE twoelk: watch out! you'll wreck! ...at 10 kph. :) 18:16 LemonLake sfan5: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/rWy5x-rwE2dk.png 18:16 hoodedice kph, hmph, so unpatriotic 18:16 sfan5 LemonLake: "omg that person can draw" 18:16 hoodedice LET ME INSTALL FREEDOM.EXE 18:17 * twoelk learned of new ingridients he didn't know could be backed 18:17 Calinou where can I get the new default ingots, VanessaE? 18:17 Calinou so that I put them in Carbone 18:17 VanessaE hoodedice: officially the US is on the metric standard. we just don't use it on our signage. 18:17 hoodedice Nice to hear that 18:17 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/Novatux/minetest_game/commit/90fcc9507aa1bde6e47032730972c95ab2d45ecd 18:17 Calinou looks strange without outline, LemonLake 18:17 Calinou flat design :D 18:17 hoodedice Looks like the Sharia.exe is working 18:17 hoodedice =P 18:17 LemonLake Calinou: that's how i art style 18:18 LemonLake deal with it 18:18 PenguinDad hoodedice: you have strange programs installed :P 18:18 sfan5 hello Megaf 18:18 hoodedice lol 18:18 LemonLake Megaf: and tell me 18:18 hoodedice hi 18:18 LemonLake what the fuck was the point in that 18:19 hoodedice no point at all 18:19 Megaf LemonLake; easier to say hi like that when you are on 40+ channels 18:19 hoodedice The point that there was no point at all was the fucking point 18:20 Megaf The point is, does that matters for you? 18:20 LemonLake Yes. 18:20 Megaf Did I hurt your feelings? 18:20 Megaf If so, I'm sorry ok!? 18:20 LemonLake Yes. 18:20 LemonLake Can't accept that apple elegy. Sorry. 18:20 Megaf I apologize 18:21 PenguinDad The point was also known as period or dot. 18:21 LemonLake 。Sassy point. 18:21 Calinou LemonLake, flat design is a cool thing to me 18:21 LemonLake Minimalistic vectors they're called 18:21 LemonLake But usually you don't draw faces, I just felt they were ultimately necessary for this one. 18:23 twoelk LemonLake: the shadow on the womens neck seems a bit of for me, else great work! 18:23 LemonLake That's what I thought 18:23 twoelk *off 18:23 LemonLake Do you mean the neck shadow, or the chest shadow? 18:23 twoelk neck 18:23 LemonLake I might shorten it 18:24 twoelk compared to the guy 18:24 LemonLake Yeah 18:24 LemonLake The light is slightly angled yet it's not entirely obvious 18:24 Calinou VanessaE, added ingots 18:25 VanessaE I saw :) \o/ 18:25 LemonLake It's centred on Ushio 18:25 Calinou they look quite better, having an outline makes more sense 18:25 LemonLake I'll shorten the neck shadow and see how it looks 18:26 VanessaE Calinou: thank nore, he drew the default gold ingot, from which I derived all the others :) 18:26 nore actually, I based it on BlockMen's gold ingot 18:26 nore I just made it not look like a brick :) 18:26 twoelk if the light is to be coming from center top left, maybe the ribbon should cast some shadow 18:27 Krock BlockMen:gold_ingot 18:30 Dezem hi 18:30 LemonLake twoelk: looking at references, it is typically drawn long shaded like it is 18:30 LemonLake http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21000000/Nagisa-Furukawa-okazaki-nagisa-21049884-496-640.jpg 18:30 Krock hi 18:30 LemonLake http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111216164559/c__/clannad/images/b/ba/Nagisa.jpg 18:30 Dezem krock do you know cg72 18:30 LemonLake to spotlight a few 18:31 Krock "know" -> no | "talked with" -> yes 18:31 Dezem have you talked to her lately or k ow wat channel she is on 18:32 Krock irc.inchra.net : 6667 #minetest 18:32 Krock ^ IRC server 18:33 Dezem do i type 6667 #minetest 18:33 LemonLake hold it in, LemonLake, hold it in 18:33 Dezem wat lemoncake 18:33 Dezem i mean lake 18:34 sfan5 >lemoncake 18:34 sfan5 lol 18:34 LemonLake i get it more than enough 18:34 LemonLake dont make me kill a parrot 18:34 LemonLake or somethin 18:34 Krock omg LEMONCAKE <3 18:34 Dezem wooooooww 18:34 twoelk ? 18:35 Krock ! 18:35 Dezem does anyone know what website has #freetalk 18:35 Krock this server has #freetalk 18:36 twoelk LemonLake: those are good examples of shadows as they should be in respect to the lighting in the pictures (near noon) 18:36 LemonLake which it is 18:37 twoelk you do know how to construckt shadows? 18:37 twoelk *construct 18:37 Krock http://irc.lc/inchra/minetest/guest@@@ 18:37 Krock ^dezem 18:38 twoelk trace the male chin to the shadow tip, now do that to the woman and compare. Where does the light come from? 18:42 VanessaE there, dreambuilder updated. those ingot images were a good excuse to update all of the base game imagery anyway 18:45 * twoelk hopes he didn't annoy LemonLake 18:45 LemonLake Hello 18:45 LemonLake No, you did not :) 18:47 * twoelk just visited this http://animexx.onlinewelten.com/events/64021/ and might be over critical 18:48 LemonLake ooo 18:48 LemonLake chiisai means small 18:49 twoelk was just a few hundred people 18:50 * twoelk did not go in costume though 18:51 * Krock wants his hand on the left side 18:51 twoelk double left handed? 18:52 LemonLake u wot 18:53 Krock twoelk, no. the right hand should be moved on the left side. it confuses me 18:53 LemonLake um 18:53 LemonLake what 18:53 LemonLake hand what where? 18:53 twoelk might affect balance 18:54 Krock (in-game hand) 18:54 LemonLake oe 18:54 twoelk unbalanced gameplay then? 18:56 twoelk actually that might be something that should be configurable 18:56 Krock hmm who would do those HUD things? blockmen? 18:57 twoelk does the hand change when using that creatures mod? 18:58 twoelk or whas it ghost mod? 18:59 EvergreenTree twoelk: no it doesn't 19:00 EvergreenTree I don't think so at least 19:01 twoelk might be fun if I played a treemonster, waving with a twig 19:07 LemonLake this is disappointed 19:07 LemonLake disappointing* 19:07 LemonLake it takes 12 seconds to save.. 19:07 Ragnar_droid Hi 19:08 LemonLake こんいちは 19:09 Ragnar_droid Hey o heard that i can edit the saturation and i think the alpha of a texture "t.png^[sat" or something like that 19:09 LemonLake if you have magic powers then you can for sure 19:10 Ragnar_droid Im 2 levels away from magic powers... Still need about 3.14K of XP 19:10 LemonLake get out, take your logic with you 19:10 Ragnar_droid Its cold out 19:11 LemonLake just dont look at me 19:11 Ragnar_droid Like 10°C 19:11 LemonLake ok? 19:11 * Krock gives Ragnar_droid 0.00159265358979K of XP 19:11 Ragnar_droid Oh you teaser 19:11 Krock s/gives/takes/ 19:11 Ragnar_droid But Krock... Can i do that 19:12 LemonLake omgzgzg 19:12 LemonLake im nearly doneeee 19:12 Krock with? 19:12 LemonLake my clannad art 19:12 Ragnar_droid Omfgzgz 19:12 Ragnar_droid I dont care 19:12 Ragnar_droid Troll4Troll 19:12 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/v9mcHpyvapTq.png 19:13 LemonLake do you care now? 19:13 Ragnar_droid Hentai! Now i do care! 19:13 LemonLake ummm... 19:13 LemonLake that's not hentai 19:13 * Ragnar_droid loves hentai 19:14 LemonLake hmm 19:14 LemonLake well okay then 19:14 * Krock gives LemonLake a real life picture 19:14 LemonLake no objections 19:14 LemonLake no, Ragnar_droid, this is anime 19:14 Ragnar_droid It hasnt begun yet.. The story just started... No true hentai starts with sex 19:14 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: 19:14 LemonLake this 19:15 LemonLake is 19:15 LemonLake not 19:15 LemonLake hentai 19:15 Ragnar_droid It starts with an introduction 19:15 Ragnar_droid Ktnxbye. Ingored LemonLake 19:16 LemonLake um 19:16 LemonLake what, just because i didn't draw hentai? 19:16 Ragnar_droid Yes 19:16 LemonLake mate 19:16 Ragnar_droid Now youre ignored 19:16 LemonLake you've got issues 19:16 Ragnar_droid I wont see your text anymore 19:17 LemonLake whatever 19:17 Ragnar_droid Krock 19:19 twoelk well if that child wasn't adopted this picture might be post hentai ;-) - by some years 19:19 LemonLake ushio is not adopted 19:19 Ragnar_droid Yeah. This guy gets me 19:19 LemonLake um 19:19 LemonLake its based on an anime... 19:19 Ragnar_droid Yes he is 19:19 LemonLake get with it 19:19 Ragnar_droid Btw. I disignored u 19:19 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: you've got issues if you can't tell that ushio is a fucking 5 year old girl 19:19 LemonLake no, you never ignored me in the first place 19:20 Ragnar_droid I did 19:20 Ragnar_droid If i could screenshot it i would 19:20 LemonLake whatever 19:20 LemonLake like i care, pervert 19:20 Ragnar_droid Im 15 you moron 19:21 LemonLake mhm 19:21 Ragnar_droid How could i be a erv 19:21 LemonLake I'm 21. 19:21 Ragnar_droid Perv* 19:21 LemonLake mate 19:21 Krock TOPIC SWITCH 19:21 twoelk klick 19:21 LemonLake if all you can do is imagine cartoon characters having sex, you've got some issue 19:21 Ragnar_droid Krock. +1 19:21 sfan5 uhh 19:22 sfan5 can we move offtopic to somewhere else please 19:22 LemonLake also, not sure 15 is an appropriate age to be looking at hentai 19:22 LemonLake sfan5: はい! 19:22 Ragnar_droid Lemon. Yoi remember Bloo fro Fosters home for imaginary friends? 19:22 sfan5 can we move offtopic to somewhere else please 19:22 PenguinDad Crack is hardcoded in minetest xD 19:22 * Calinou prones and deploys MG42… 19:22 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: stop now 19:22 sfan5 Calinou: y u no !op instead of /cs op ? 19:23 Calinou what's wrong with that 19:23 PenguinDad s/Crack is/Cracks are/ 19:23 Ragnar_droid You stop telling me what i can and cant watch 19:23 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: move offtopic. now 19:23 VanessaE oh G*d, totally irritating character, Bloo. 19:23 VanessaE (I miss that cartoon.) 19:23 * sfan5 licks paw 19:23 Ragnar_droid Cheese was more irritating 19:23 LemonLake VanessaE: fosters was a great cartoon 19:23 Ragnar_droid I miss it too 19:24 Ragnar_droid But some a.hole made a sexual video out of it... Googe for Bloo Me 19:24 Ragnar_droid !g bloo me 19:24 MinetestBot Ragnar_droid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2AzpdrQIUU 19:25 LemonLake jesus fuckin christ 19:25 LemonLake apple elegies people 19:25 LemonLake I believe I spiked that discussion 19:25 LemonLake kids, I advise you not click that link ;) 19:25 * Krock pushes a wet sponge in LemonLake's mouth 19:25 * LemonLake eats it 19:25 Ragnar_droid Ok sorry... 19:26 Ragnar_droid LemonLakes img reminded me of stufff.... Sorry dood... 19:26 LemonLake I've finished it now 19:26 Ragnar_droid Great 19:26 LemonLake and I'd show you it but not sure I want to anymore 19:26 Ragnar_droid Can i give you an idea. Lemon. 19:26 * twoelk might be interested 19:27 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/CIWq_P8Angqi.png 19:27 Ragnar_droid Animate it 19:27 LemonLake there you go, complete 19:27 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: this has taken an entire week to make, not sure I want to. 19:27 LemonLake the actual anime is good enough as it is 19:27 sfan5 I just .. wtf 19:27 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1465 19:27 Ragnar_droid I know its HARD... ;D 19:27 sfan5 "Hand on right side only is discriminatory" 19:28 Krock sfan5, I knew it's my issue be4 clicking :) 19:28 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: really? have you tried actually drawing a simplistic vector based on an anime in your free time? 19:28 PenguinDad LemonLake: looks nice 19:28 LemonLake PenguinDad: thanks ^.^ 19:28 Ragnar_droid Lemon im bad at drawing stick figures 19:28 twoelk LemonLake: sorta cute, I like the slight smirk on the guy's face 19:28 Ragnar_droid You are an artist 19:29 Ragnar_droid I was just messing with you earlier 19:29 Ragnar_droid Friends! 19:29 Ragnar_droid ? 19:29 LemonLake twoelk: it's not quite a smirk but I agree it is quite an interesting touch 19:29 Ragnar_droid Ffs... ! Is right next to ? On the android 2.2 keyboard 19:30 LemonLake with outlines his smiles make more sense 19:31 Ragnar_droid Lemon... Do you 4give me tho? Ihate enemies 19:31 twoelk last thing I traced was a top view of an airbus for a control panel 19:32 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: that's difficult for me to do. welcome to the world of living with autism 19:32 twoelk haven't drawn people for ages 19:32 LemonLake an airbus? 19:32 LemonLake interesting 19:33 twoelk oops forgot I made a two page comic in a workshop at the con 19:33 twoelk well sketches rather 19:33 Calinou sfan5, a way to change wield item offset in general 19:33 LemonLake nice 19:33 LemonLake Calinou: rather change the position and flip it 19:34 LemonLake offsetting it would make things look a bit weird 19:34 Calinou achievement get! banned 19:35 twoelk information panel befor or after action? 19:36 hoodedice Calinou, what shoud I name that topic I was working on? 19:36 Calinou which topic 19:37 hoodedice "Minetest Infringement Policy"? 19:37 Calinou Lemon... Do you 4give me tho? Ihate enemies 19:37 Calinou oh, I have many enemies, come to me 19:37 hoodedice http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox 19:37 LemonLake +Calinou 19:37 Calinou hoodedice, Forks? 19:37 hoodedice We already have a topic on forks 19:37 hoodedice This is actually oriented at infringement things 19:37 Calinou “Do not attempt to hack, grief, or crash their servers. They will try to file a lawsuit for hacking. ” → sorry, but griefing is not illegal 19:38 LemonLake ^ 19:38 hoodedice Ik 19:38 hoodedice But still not a good idea 19:38 LemonLake i dont think crashing a server is actually 19:38 hoodedice (Plus I know they'll do it anywas haha) 19:38 hoodedice they - griefers 19:39 hoodedice btw, checked by celeron, says looks good 19:39 Calinou fixed 19:39 Calinou crashing a server may be 19:39 Calinou but no one has sued for crashing game servers, I believe 19:39 twoelk "In the past few days" might not be valid in some time. 19:40 Calinou ehm, have fun suing someone for that then 19:41 LemonLake what should I do for the background of the clannad piece? 19:41 LemonLake maybe the cherry trees 19:41 twoelk you might need to ad an "as of (insert date)" or not use a relative time statement 19:41 PenguinDad "If you think that a certain program is infringing on Minetest's LGPL 2.0" it's 2.1 hoodedice 19:43 Jordach !c 1240/3 19:43 MinetestBot 413 19:43 hoodedice no one did, but that GM dude thretened a lawsuit 19:43 Krock !c 1240.0/3.0 19:43 MinetestBot 413.3333333333333 19:43 Jordach !c 1240/4 19:43 MinetestBot 310 19:43 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest with links to licenses 19:43 hoodedice Thanks twoelk 19:43 LemonLake has some dumbass mofo made an unauthorized port and then threatened a lawsuit on another unauthed/authed port? 19:44 LemonLake sounds like the sort of thing someone in this world would do 19:44 hoodedice Calinou: I think the NOT should be left in ALL CAPS (?) 19:44 Calinou no 19:44 Ragnar_droid Hoodedice... Is Freeminer a game INSPIRED by minetest or a minetest FORK? 19:44 Calinou it sounds like you're shouting and I do enough of that already 19:44 hoodedice Fork 19:44 Calinou a fork, Ragnar_droid 19:44 Ragnar_droid Ok 19:45 Ragnar_droid Do FM servers work with MT 19:46 Krock MT client -> FM server -> doesn't work 19:46 Krock FM client -> MT server -> should work 19:46 LemonLake because logic 19:46 Krock yes. 19:46 Krock backwards compatibility 19:46 Krock """backwards""" 19:47 LemonLake something mt and most of its forks do fairly well 19:47 twoelk look for free- in http://servers.minetest.net/ under version, example: road 19:47 Ragnar_droid Snd MT client -> MT server -> Will lag or Wont work 19:47 Ragnar_droid And* 19:47 LemonLake um 19:47 Calinou I can connect to Sky server with Minetest 19:47 LemonLake MT client -> MT server = DEFINITELY work.... 19:48 Krock ^proofed many times 19:48 Calinou lol 19:48 Krock (in singleplayer) 19:48 LemonLake lol 19:48 Calinou proved 19:48 Ragnar_droid Depends: versions 19:48 Krock grammarnazi 19:48 LemonLake Most versions work with most servers. 19:48 LemonLake There'll just be noticable bugs in some cases. 19:49 hoodedice added links to license http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox 19:49 Ragnar_droid DISCOnnected from server 19:49 Ragnar_droid Reason: lol 19:49 * twoelk will not bet on anything depending on good internet connections 19:49 * Krock wrote a skin preview generator some time ago.. maybe gonna extend it to zoom the textures in 19:50 PenguinDad Minetest 0.4.10 still works with headcrabs server 19:50 hoodedice *red 19:50 Krock *greencrabs 19:50 PenguinDad *redcrab 19:50 Calinou that server should never ever be played on; it's ridiculously outdated and the admin is gone nowhere 19:50 Krock does it have backups? 19:50 Krock cuz online 24/7 19:51 Ragnar_droid MT version 0.3.0 19:51 EvergreenTree Krock: no, sadly 19:51 Ragnar_droid XD 19:51 EvergreenTree it really is a piece of minetest history 19:51 Krock YES 19:51 * twoelk hides his old outdated costumized clients 19:51 Ragnar_droid Hi neverblue 19:51 EvergreenTree the mods are so outdated it would be impossible (nearly) to update it to a new version 19:51 * Krock gives twoelk src/light.cpp 19:52 proller twoelk, ~2000 reached on four circles ;) 19:52 Krock EvergreenTree, wut? they should work 19:52 Calinou debug light table is cool 19:52 Ragnar_droid Hey neveryellowbush 19:52 EvergreenTree Krock: no, minetest 0.4.10 does work with redcrad 19:52 EvergreenTree *crab 19:52 twoelk oh, juste camped on +1020 or so 19:52 Krock EvergreenTree, ehm. I never said it otherwise :3 19:53 EvergreenTree I just said if he updated everything, there would be unknown nodes everywhere 19:53 EvergreenTree so much aliasing would be needed 19:53 EvergreenTree and abms 19:53 EvergreenTree especially with the several wool mods installed on there 19:53 Calinou the crappy torches 19:53 Krock EvergreenTree, copy bin and builtin folder -> done! :) 19:54 Krock no needs for updating the mods 19:54 Krock and maybe some texture replacing 19:54 Krock more isn't required 19:54 EvergreenTree well, in 0.4.10 a certain wool color doesn't show 19:54 EvergreenTree and looks like an unknown node in later versions 19:55 EvergreenTree I use 0.4.5 on redcrab 19:55 EvergreenTree so I don't see the unknown nodes 19:55 Krock maybe it needs to be in the texture pack because the server misses that texture 19:55 EvergreenTree possibly 19:55 EvergreenTree we just need to get redcrab to give us the copy of minetest he is using on the server 19:55 EvergreenTree or even jsut the mods and the world 19:56 Krock the world... 19:56 Ragnar_droid Ask god 19:56 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DBGHem-GS9hg.png Opinions? 19:56 EvergreenTree the world that is used on redcrab. :P 19:56 Krock what was the last known file size 1GB? 19:56 Ragnar_droid If hes having a good day... You then just might get The World 19:56 Krock I guess, it wasmore 19:56 EvergreenTree where on earth would he upload it though 19:57 VanessaE LemonLake: it's looking good. needs more contour/shadowing around the guy's mouth 19:57 Krock LemonLake, erase it and draw some 16-color smile 19:57 LemonLake VanessaE: okay, I'll try that 19:57 LemonLake Krock: 16 color smile? 19:57 Ragnar_droid Lemoncake... Looks like fiiiiinnneeee henta.... Wait... Nope... Looks good... Thats it 19:58 Krock LemonLake, you don't know the 16-color images?????where you only have 16 diffrent colors 19:58 LemonLake Oh, yes I know those 19:58 LemonLake Nah. 19:58 Krock so, youneed black, white and yellow 19:58 Krock 5x5 px sould be enough 19:58 Krock 19:58 Ragnar_droid Hi artur 19:59 artur99 hi 19:59 Ragnar_droid Dood 19:59 artur99 hey, whats up? :D 19:59 Ragnar_droid I missed u bruh 19:59 artur99 :) 19:59 Ragnar_droid :'O 19:59 PenguinDad Krock: 4×4 px is already enough :P 19:59 artur99 when u said ull get home? 19:59 Ragnar_droid How bout 2x16 19:59 LemonLake u kiddin me 19:59 Ragnar_droid The 27. july 20:00 artur99 hmm 28 days :D 20:00 AnotherBrick 2x3 is minimum for expressing smile 20:00 Ragnar_droid Well be here a bit longer 20:00 LemonLake VanessaE: How is this? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/MSR9Cb3sPq5I.png 20:00 Ragnar_droid I know... I hate it 20:00 Ragnar_droid I wanna go home 20:00 hoodedice dun http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest_Licensing 20:01 Ragnar_droid Dat smile tho 20:01 Jordach !c 1754/2 20:01 MinetestBot 877 20:01 hoodedice artur99, Ragnar_droid, this is a public chat room, use query for private chats 20:01 artur99 :))) k 20:01 Ragnar_droid !c 10:0 20:01 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 20:01 Ragnar_droid XD 20:01 Ragnar_droid Oh... 20:01 hoodedice : is a character 20:02 Ragnar_droid !c 10/0 20:02 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero 20:02 PenguinDad !c 16^3 20:02 MinetestBot 19 20:02 Jordach !c 1754/3 20:02 MinetestBot 584 20:02 EvergreenTree stop using MinetestBot in this chat 20:02 hoodedice Guys, please use ##minetestbot for your bot spamming needs 20:02 LemonLake ^ 20:02 EvergreenTree ^ 20:02 Krock PenguinDad, http://i.imgur.com/5CBCkcM.png 20:02 VanessaE LemonLake: much better. 20:02 VanessaE just that thin bit of something you added defines the mouth better. 20:03 VanessaE LemonLake: next, try to adjust the nose shading, it ...doesn't quite work right 20:03 Krock omg. my smiley has no nose 20:03 * Jordach should be banned from Gimp 20:04 EvergreenTree And why might that be? 20:04 * Krock takes away gimp and puts PDN on its place 20:04 Calinou PDN sucks 20:04 LemonLake +Krock 20:04 LemonLake PDN is actually alright. 20:04 Krock -Calinou 20:04 EvergreenTree Gimp is better 20:04 LemonLake But Gimp beats it any day. 20:04 Jordach i'd rather use shitty PDF 20:04 PenguinDad --Krock 20:04 artur99 ಠ_ಠ20:04 Calinou PDN is proprietary and Windows-only 20:04 LemonLake ^ 20:04 EvergreenTree Gimp is open source and cross platform 20:05 grrk-bzzt "PDN" ? 20:05 LemonLake ^ 20:05 LemonLake PDN = Paint.NET 20:05 Krock PenguinDad, --Krock makes no change, you need to use Krock--; 20:05 grrk-bzzt Oh OK 20:05 LemonLake Krock: --Krock also works. 20:05 grrk-bzzt Paint.NET is neat but yeah, it's proprietary and Windows only 20:05 Krock LemonLake, but it just decreases it by 1 in the current use but doesn't change the actual value 20:05 grrk-bzzt Otherwise, the interface is much better than GIMP 20:05 Calinou GIMP's is good enough 20:05 Calinou learn to use it 20:05 EvergreenTree Gimp's interface is fine 20:06 grrk-bzzt At least for everyday people who need straightforward things 20:06 EvergreenTree once you learn to use it 20:06 LemonLake Gimps interface could be better 20:06 * Krock raged last time using gimp 20:06 Calinou improve it then 20:06 LemonLake And it doesn't work on mac all the time, but who uses mac 20:06 EvergreenTree Yes, it could 20:06 Calinou it doesn't improve by itself 20:06 grrk-bzzt [22:06:06] once you learn to use it 20:06 Calinou same for Minetest 20:06 EvergreenTree but it works fine 20:06 LemonLake ^ 20:06 Calinou LemonLake, works on OS X here, when I use OS X 20:06 grrk-bzzt That's the point EvergreenTree 20:06 Calinou it even has a dark background! 20:06 LemonLake Strange. 20:06 EvergreenTree grrk-bzzt: try using blender 20:06 Calinou to look professional 20:06 EvergreenTree :3 20:06 LemonLake +EvergreenTree 20:06 Calinou At least for everyday people who need straightforward things 20:06 grrk-bzzt EvergreenTree, I am, Blender isn't straight forward 20:06 Calinou there probably are simpler tools for them 20:06 EvergreenTree right 20:07 grrk-bzzt Paint.NET is already simple 20:07 PenguinDad I can't work with PDN's crappy interface 20:07 grrk-bzzt Otherwise use paint.exe lol 20:07 EvergreenTree use libreoffice draw if you really need simple tools 20:07 LemonLake I hate the beta interface. 20:07 LemonLake The 3.5 one is great, tho 20:07 grrk-bzzt lmao LibreOffice Draw 20:07 Krock <3 <3 http://andrew.hedges.name/experiments/brainf_cker/ <3 <3 <3 <3 20:07 LemonLake Anonymous asked a question 20:07 LemonLake please follow my twitter at @twitter 20:07 EvergreenTree you said simple 20:07 * LemonLake kills self 20:08 grrk-bzzt As far as I remember, LibreOffice Draw is just shit 20:08 grrk-bzzt I'll give it a try, hand on 20:08 Jordach hoodedice, EvergreenTree here's yer A4 cover https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qBeiDuR71Rd_.png 20:08 grrk-bzzt s/hand/hang 20:09 EvergreenTree Jordach: I could easily to that 20:09 EvergreenTree it does look nice as a manual cover though 20:09 grrk-bzzt Just what I thought, LibreOffice Draw have nothing in common with Gimp and PDN 20:09 EvergreenTree no, it doesn't 20:10 grrk-bzzt And it's just for… I dunno 20:10 EvergreenTree Are there any simple open source image editing programs? 20:10 EvergreenTree There's aseprite, but it's not simple 20:10 grrk-bzzt I really don't know why someone would use LibreOffice Draw 20:10 EvergreenTree (not really) 20:10 grrk-bzzt Wasn't Pinta meant to be a PDN clone for GNU/Linux ? 20:10 EvergreenTree if you want something edititable that can be used in another libreoffice doc 20:11 EvergreenTree there is also krita 20:11 EvergreenTree but it isn't much better then gimp interface wise 20:11 grrk-bzzt Krita is awesome 20:11 EvergreenTree I tried using krita 20:11 EvergreenTree it is pretty good 20:11 grrk-bzzt I've tried it two days ago with the Wacom tablet I've bought, it's fantastic 20:11 EvergreenTree seems like it's aimed at painting more than anything else 20:11 EvergreenTree and drawing 20:11 grrk-bzzt ^ 20:11 grrk-bzzt Exactly, painting and drawing 20:12 EvergreenTree not really so great for photo manipulation 20:12 EvergreenTree if I were an artist, it would be great for me 20:12 Calinou >Wacom tablet 20:12 Calinou lol 20:12 hoodedice what''s so lol about that 20:12 grrk-bzzt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinta_(software) 20:12 EvergreenTree but then again, I would be on a mac if I were an artist 20:12 EvergreenTree :P 20:13 grrk-bzzt Calinou, to be honest, I don't get what you are pointing here 20:13 grrk-bzzt EvergreenTree, or you would use KDE and Krita 20:13 grrk-bzzt :P 20:13 EvergreenTree I use kde 20:13 EvergreenTree just not krita 20:13 grrk-bzzt There you go 20:13 grrk-bzzt WM BATTLLLEEEE!!! 20:14 grrk-bzzt KDE SUCKS 20:14 grrk-bzzt Sorry about that 20:14 EvergreenTree YOU SUCK 20:14 EvergreenTree lol 20:14 grrk-bzzt I had 5sec of fun 20:14 EvergreenTree let's not start that 20:14 grrk-bzzt Can't wait for the text editor war 20:14 EvergreenTree GEANY FTW!!1! 20:14 PenguinDad EvergreenTree++ 20:14 Krock eeh. the german wikipedia has a Minetest site, the english not. 20:14 grrk-bzzt GUI SUXXXX 20:15 grrk-bzzt cat > file 20:15 grrk-bzzt Ctrl+D when you're done writing 20:15 Krock !c 'cat' > 'file' 20:15 MinetestBot False 20:15 grrk-bzzt lol 20:15 EvergreenTree <3 MinetestBot 20:15 MinetestBot <3 EvergreenTree 20:15 EvergreenTree grrk-bzzt: if you don't like gui's use vim 20:16 grrk-bzzt I would if I wasn't already using emacs 20:16 EvergreenTree ^ or emacs 20:16 EvergreenTree :p 20:16 grrk-bzzt :) 20:16 grrk-bzzt I admit the keyboard shortcuts of emacs sucks ballz 20:16 grrk-bzzt Like… 20:17 grrk-bzzt Yeah whatever 20:17 EvergreenTree gedit and kate are what I use generally 20:17 grrk-bzzt At least the macros are a lot of fun to use 20:17 EvergreenTree but geany for coding 20:17 EvergreenTree grrk-bzzt: true 20:17 * Krock inserts grrk-bzzt into google translator and searchs the "speak" button 20:17 grrk-bzzt wat? 20:18 EvergreenTree He wants to know how google would say your nick 20:18 EvergreenTree :P 20:18 Krock jukebox 20:18 grrk-bzzt Oh alright 20:18 grrk-bzzt It's an Internet nick, it's only pronouncable on the Internet 20:18 grrk-bzzt Like "Hello grrk-bzzt" 20:18 grrk-bzzt or "Wow, well said grrk-bzzt" 20:19 EvergreenTree I would say it "girk bzt" 20:19 Krock I would it say it like "grrkbzzt" 20:19 grrk-bzzt haha 20:20 EvergreenTree reminds me of that old argument on how to say mese 20:20 EvergreenTree I just say "mehseh" 20:21 EvergreenTree but that's just my personal preference 20:21 Krock I say "mese" 20:21 Jordach me-ease 20:21 Calinou me-ze 20:21 Calinou “mésé” in French 20:21 Calinou I read it like you would pronounce it in French 20:21 Jordach easy mese lemon squeezy 20:21 Calinou I took that habit since I started playing Minetest 20:22 PenguinDad Mese is italian for month :D 20:23 Calinou maybe in Spanish too 20:23 VanessaE mese, rhymes with geese. simple enough. 20:23 EvergreenTree VanessaE: I say it like it's spanish 20:24 EvergreenTree The vowels in spanish sound like "ah, eh, ea, oh, oo" 20:24 PenguinDad I pronounce it like Jordach does 20:24 artur99 Francais? multi-language? :D 20:24 Jordach PenguinDad, i lead into ease 20:25 * Krock "speaks" 3 languages 20:25 * sfan5 throws Lua at Krock 20:25 LemonLake ^ 20:25 LemonLake ninja'd 20:26 LemonLake http://lemoncreativity.deviantart.com/art/Okazaki-Family-Clannad-After-Story-466846636 20:26 LemonLake it has been done 20:26 Krock somewhat.equals(language, programming_language) -> false 20:26 artur99 Vreun român pe aicia? :)) 20:26 Calinou minetest.equals("Krock", minetest.get_modpath("krock_mod")) -> tralse 20:26 Krock > tralse 20:26 LemonLake >tralse 20:26 LemonLake u wot 20:27 Krock ninja'd 20:27 PenguinDad !c "programming_language" > "language" 20:27 MinetestBot True 20:27 Ragnar_droid Hi 20:27 artur99 hi 20:27 VanessaE bbl 20:28 Ragnar_droid Bye vaness 20:28 LemonLake さようなら 20:28 artur99 西班牙人 20:28 Ragnar_droid Lem... Show me ur work 20:29 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: I just did. 20:29 Ragnar_droid I just got back 20:29 LemonLake http://lemoncreativity.deviantart.com/art/Okazaki-Family-Clannad-After-Story-466846636?ga_submit_new=10%253A1404937543 20:30 * Jordach waves at LemonLake 20:30 * sfan5 waves at Jordach 20:30 LemonLake Hi, Jordach 20:30 Ragnar_droid Hi sfan and jord 20:31 Jordach press that messages button ;3 20:31 LemonLake whoa 20:31 LemonLake you fuckin spammed me mate 20:31 LemonLake '4' 20:31 LemonLake aww thanks, now i have two llama badges :P 20:31 artur99 !seen OldCoder 20:31 MinetestBot artur99: oldcoder was last seen at 2014-07-08 23:24:12 UTC on #minetest 20:33 * Krock can't remember the keys of Fast, fLy and noClip - gives them an useful key 20:34 LemonLake h k and l iirc 20:34 Krock wut? 20:34 EvergreenTree e is fast by default 20:34 EvergreenTree but I switched it to f 20:35 webdesigner97 hello :) 20:35 EvergreenTree and switche inventory to e 20:35 EvergreenTree Hi web 20:35 Ragnar_droid Hey shan5 20:35 Krock but... W is near to E.. 20:35 Ragnar_droid Sfan 20:35 sfan5 https://plot.ly/~FloatingGhost/0/average-time-until-hitler/ 20:35 sfan5 wat 20:36 LemonLake um. 20:36 Ragnar_droid I heard i could edit the alpha channel of textures in lua 20:37 Ragnar_droid But how 20:37 * Krock throws doc/lua_api.txt at Ragnar_droid 20:37 Ragnar_droid I know that saturation was something like "texture.png^[sat50" 20:38 Ragnar_droid Is that correcr 20:38 Ragnar_droid Correct 20:38 sfan5 maybe 20:38 Ragnar_droid Cmon dood 20:38 Ragnar_droid That would solve my problem 20:39 * Krock slaps Ragnar_droid with minetest dev wiki 20:39 Ragnar_droid Stahp 20:39 EvergreenTree Ragnar_droid: there is a page about that 20:39 LemonLake http://dev.minetest.net/texture 20:39 EvergreenTree ^ 20:40 LemonLake there is brighten, noalpha and makealpha 20:40 EvergreenTree there isn't saturation 20:40 LemonLake ^ 20:40 Krock ^ 20:41 artur99 ^ 20:41 LemonLake > 20:41 Krock ^^ 20:42 hoodedice Ragnar 20:42 hoodedice Do you not know how to edit a texture? 20:42 LemonLake ^ 20:42 Krock ^ 20:42 LemonLake just change the sat yourself 20:42 LemonLake or alpha channel 20:42 EvergreenTree >>>>>>>>^ 20:43 artur99 ⇕⇕⇕⇕⇕⇕ 20:43 Krock ? 20:44 LemonLake →→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→^ 20:45 artur99 anyone tested http://www.guhat.com until now? It really works? 20:45 Krock bplaced.com 20:46 hoodedice Can someone close this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463 We already have this feature 20:46 Krock #minetest-dev 20:47 LemonLake just jump in like "fuck you guys do this shit" 20:47 Krock artur99, no serious hoster can do it for free 20:47 LemonLake ^ 20:47 Krock servers cost money 20:48 artur99 :D no I need VPS... I already have premium hosting 20:48 artur99 www.noendhost.com 20:48 Krock so, chose one, which is based on AD or donations 20:48 Krock "99,99% Server Uptime" 20:48 Krock not good enough 20:48 PenguinDad AD == Amazing Donuts :P 20:50 artur99 :)) 20:50 artur99 i never saw it off 20:50 artur99 :D 20:51 artur99 and i've got it for free 20:51 Krock artur99, http://imgur.com/H3kePpf 20:51 artur99 I mean I worked a few hours for the owner, and he gave me a free acc 20:52 artur99 yeah... it's the man i worked with 20:52 artur99 :))) 20:52 Krock ehm. okay 21:06 artur99 anyone knowing a marketplace like codecanyon.com? 21:06 artur99 but well populated? 21:08 LemonLake http://i.imgur.com/UA4zfQb.jpg 21:08 LemonLake Caption: "After brain surgery my boyfriend couldn't think of the right names for things" 21:14 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, topics in "News" section should be sorted by topic creation date, not last post 21:19 thefamilygrog66 Howdy folks 21:20 thefamilygrog66 Is this normal for 0.4.10-dev? http://i.imgur.com/dFkRCdh.png 21:21 PenguinDad thefamilygrog66: are you using standard minetest_game? 21:22 thefamilygrog66 Yes, PenguinDad - I just compiled it earlier today. 21:22 thefamilygrog66 It's just that I've never seem them in the sky before... 21:23 RealBadAngel thefamilygrog66, youre just lucky 21:23 thefamilygrog66 Apparently! 21:24 EvergreenTree thefamilygrog66: You are so lucky 21:24 EvergreenTree Yes, it is normal, just extremely rare 21:24 EvergreenTree they do seem more common if you use singlenode though 21:24 EvergreenTree :P 21:25 thefamilygrog66 Weird, I'll have to make note of the world's seed... 21:25 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, no, its a bug; your graphics card is probably broken 21:27 thefamilygrog66 KHHAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!! 21:27 WindHero That reminds me of the nyancat heaven mod I once saw... 21:27 thefamilygrog66 So, where do they hide the seed now? It doesn't show when I do a /status 21:28 PenguinDad thefamilygrog66: press F5 21:28 thefamilygrog66 Haha, me lose brain? Uh oh. 21:28 thefamilygrog66 Thanks, PenguinDad. 21:29 thefamilygrog66 seed = 8267793110244542983 21:30 thefamilygrog66 coords: 341, 20, 25) 21:58 hoodedice Hai RBA 22:04 hoodedice I am a bad person, and I should feel bad: http://imgur.com/J2kVJgT 22:13 OldCoder Yo 22:13 OldCoder Who rang? 22:13 OldCoder artur99 I C 22:14 RealBadAngel hoodedice, LOL 22:15 RealBadAngel send her that: http://i1.kwejk.pl/site_media/obrazki/2012/01/89ec3adae24e8a3394065361258f6f5e.jpg?1325501897 22:16 RealBadAngel "When cat is afraid of a mouse" 22:17 RealBadAngel then youre gonna be bad to the bone ;) 22:24 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zNbpnphtesQ :D 22:28 Jordach ello Zeno` 22:56 Jordach ello WindHero 22:56 WindHero hi Jordach 22:56 WindHero how goes it? 22:56 Jordach fine 22:58 WindHero Hi Zeno` 22:58 Zeno` hi Jordach and WindHero 22:58 WindHero Slight bit of news... 22:59 WindHero my absence from CaveRealms development has been for a reason 22:59 WindHero I'm cooking up a couple new ideas for SkyLands/Test :D 22:59 Zeno` nice :) 23:00 WindHero Heaven islands! 23:00 WindHero very high up 23:00 WindHero brb 23:00 Zeno` but... but... but... Heaven Caves? 23:01 Zeno` It's (caverealms) been running for over a week on my server now with no problems 23:01 Zeno` None that I've noticed anyway :) 23:04 WindHero back 23:04 WindHero ROFL 23:05 WindHero I really don't think heaven and caves go well together 23:05 WindHero I have some plans for caverealms too, dw 23:05 WindHero I've also been upkeeping my friend's server, so that's been eating up time 23:06 WindHero mostly, he asked me to dig a path down to caverealms :P 23:06 Zeno` Heal Caves 23:06 Zeno` Hell* 23:07 Zeno` I'm thinking of adding paramat's fissures, actually 23:07 Zeno` (talking about digging down to the caverealms) 23:07 WindHero that might work 23:07 WindHero and more like Nether caves 23:07 WindHero or maybe Nilfheim 23:08 Zeno` I'm reluctant to add toooo much mapgen stuff though 23:08 Zeno` on the server anyway 23:08 WindHero that would give me an excuse for red glow crystals 23:08 Zeno` red are definitely needed ;p 23:09 Zeno` once there are RGB, it opens up the more possibilities for more ore (or ore derivative products) crafts as well 23:09 Zeno` I've been away for 3 days so haven't really done anything at all 23:10 WindHero yeah, I've been fighting a tad bit of motivation problems 23:10 WindHero I just don't want to burn myself out on CR dev 23:11 Zeno` fairy nuff I say 23:18 WindHero Actually 23:19 WindHero no, I don't want to make a biome that has anything to do with hell 23:19 WindHero Instead 23:19 WindHero I can make something visually similar 23:19 WindHero but have it be the Dungeon Master's Keep 23:19 Zeno` just need red crystals heh 23:19 WindHero yup 23:19 Zeno` and some skull scattered around the place 23:19 WindHero I really want to make that awesomesauce biome with the ginormous crystals 23:20 Zeno` glow skulls rofl 23:20 WindHero but I'm not ready yet 23:20 WindHero ROFL 23:20 WindHero Maybe I could have an optional dependency on BlockMen's old bone mod 23:20 Zeno` no 23:20 WindHero and have the skulls craftable into bonemeal 23:20 Zeno` I hate bones 23:20 Zeno` yucky 23:20 WindHero :( 23:21 WindHero I like insta-grow trees tho 23:21 Zeno` make it configurable then hehe 23:21 WindHero alright, on my friend's server I'm 250 nodes down 23:21 WindHero 450+ to go.... 23:22 WindHero like I said, _optional_ 23:23 Zeno` Err on my server caverealms don't start until -6000 heh 23:23 Zeno` if *I* mined to -6000 (and properly, not stupid 1x1 shafts) then others can :D 23:23 Zeno` pity I keep teleporting people to them so they can look 23:23 Zeno` oh well 23:24 WindHero lolol 23:24 WindHero yeah, I'm making a 3x4 tunnel down 23:25 WindHero thankfully haven't hit any lava 23:25 WindHero I also did a large portion of it with bettertnt 23:25 WindHero gonna set up minecarts up and down 23:32 Zeno` make basecamps like I do hehe 23:33 WindHero perhaps 23:33 WindHero currently it's mostly an expressway 23:33 WindHero with regular rails going down 23:33 WindHero and HolyPhoenix's special "Speed Rails" going up 23:34 WindHero (which basically are 4x as fast as power rails) 23:34 Zeno` ohh, nice 23:35 WindHero it's taking forever and a day to get there with my terrible lag though 23:36 Zeno` gotta hate that 23:37 Zeno` is it lag or mapgen stalling? :p 23:37 WindHero 3G, sometimes 4G wifi connection brought to you by Verizon Wireless 23:37 * WindHero stabs himself 23:37 WindHero it's lag 23:37 Zeno` umm, yes that would do it 23:37 WindHero mostly from Lava ABMs 23:37 WindHero on the surface I rarely get terrible lag