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00:46 telek1 hummelBop: What speed/capacity cpu/videocard/ram, are you using mods or just minetest_game, etc?
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03:03 hummeleBop my computer was slow because of microsoft updates
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06:11 emerge Hello
06:11 LemonLake こんいちは
06:12 LemonLake こんにちは*
06:12 emerge :P
06:13 VanessaE wat
06:13 LemonLake hm?
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06:13 kaeza ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
06:13 kaeza mornings
06:13 LemonLake good day
06:14 kaeza https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zdu0d5​ZhqP0/U00uH-cUYSI/AAAAAAAAJpk/rqFNB2frEOE​/w702-h527-no/give+this+guy+a+Medal.jpg
06:14 LemonLake hmm....
06:14 LemonLake yeeeeessss it shoooould make it 64bit
06:14 LemonLake give it a go
06:14 VanessaE nice, a jpg of a screenshot that's barely readable
06:15 LemonLake "I have a question,
06:15 VanessaE oh G*d.  people are really that dumb?
06:15 VanessaE (the guy's question)
06:15 LemonLake ah you read it
06:15 kaeza probably trolling :P
06:15 kaeza (?)
06:15 LemonLake ^
06:15 LemonLake but people ARE that dumb
06:15 kaeza ^
06:16 emerge I need help with my function. http://pastebin.com/TXgkBFM3 It should add a bunch of nodes with same specs, except for drawtype.
06:16 LemonLake Unless this is part of a game, I wouldn't recommend putting it in default
06:16 emerge Ok.
06:16 emerge It's a game.
06:17 LemonLake looks good to me
06:17 emerge And problem is in different place. When I place a node generated by this function it turns into fence.
06:17 VanessaE LemonLake: I read that post to my husband.
06:17 VanessaE <Abe> WHAT?!
06:17 LemonLake ?
06:18 LemonLake Oh i see
06:18 LemonLake that confused me for a sec
06:18 LemonLake VanessaE: Eeeyup
06:18 kaeza emerge, you are modifying `data' in-place; try copying the table
06:18 LemonLake ^
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06:18 LemonLake Since "fencelike" is the last one, its the chosen one for all of them
06:18 kaeza (in each loop iteration)
06:19 emerge kaeza, ok thx
06:19 hoodedice morning
06:20 kaeza mornings hoodedice
06:20 VanessaE meanwhile, abe just spotted a cute sticker on feeBay, via a facebook post.  Simon's Cat, pointing at his food bowl, designed such that you paste it over your car's fuel fill door :)
06:20 emerge kaeza, it works
06:20 LemonLake おはよう!
06:20 hoodedice Van, what post?
06:20 VanessaE also, good morning kaeza  :)
06:21 VanessaE https://www.facebook.com/magyarsimons​cat/photos/a.210459552305508.55796.20​8295702521893/833434770007980/?type=1
06:21 kaeza hah
06:21 LemonLake okay, now that's something cool
06:21 VanessaE (sorry, the post there doesn't link to eBay, he had to search for it)
06:21 hoodedice nice
06:21 VanessaE wwait, yeah it does - in one of the comments.
06:22 * hoodedice goes back to skyrim
06:22 LemonLake http://www.ebay.com/itm/Funny-Simons-Cat-1-Big-De​cals-Stickers-Graphics-Kitty-Auto-Vinyl-Window-Ca​r-/171229198557?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accesso​ries&amp;var&amp;hash=item27de0e38dd&amp;vxp=mtr
06:22 hoodedice I installed skyrim twice, now it runs two times faster on my celeron =P
06:22 LemonLake comic sans ruined it
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06:23 hoodedice > $6
06:23 hoodedice I would rather put up a sticker with a MT nyan cat
06:23 hoodedice But I would likely be buying a MANLY CAR
06:23 LemonLake manly car?
06:23 hoodedice SO IT WILL HAVE MANLY STICKERS
06:23 LemonLake a car is a car
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06:24 hoodedice LIKE THIS http://media.tumblr.com/tu​mblr_m9mibjmfkj1qdsggv.jpg
06:24 LemonLake oh
06:24 VanessaE heh
06:25 hoodedice Lemon, cars like the eclipse are girly
06:25 LemonLake getting a job will be fun
06:25 hoodedice I saw this guy driving a pink eclipse with eyelashes on the headlights
06:26 LemonLake 95 layers...
06:26 hoodedice !tw 486748674412666881
06:26 LemonLake 346 paths...
06:26 MinetestBot Oh yes, just in case you noticed stuff is different in 0.4.10, this is because we are using minetest_next as the default subgame =D (@MinetestCommune)
06:26 LemonLake and im STILL
06:26 LemonLake NOT
06:26 LemonLake DONE
06:27 hoodedice Lemon, inkscape or gimp?
06:27 LemonLake gimp, don't like working with inkscape
06:27 hoodedice =O
06:27 hoodedice inkscape is the future
06:27 LemonLake i'd normally use photoshop but over the time of making this image, photoshop < gimp
06:27 LemonLake plus, with all the processing i have to do for certain features, inkscape will not work
06:27 hoodedice oh'
06:32 LemonLake 8.5mb
06:32 LemonLake :/
06:32 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m_iyYxYeiJRk.png
06:33 VanessaE very nice
06:33 LemonLake that there is 98 layers, 353 paths and 8.5mb
06:34 LemonLake I wonder if mediacrush go through their submissions....I know the maker of the site is a clannad fan
06:38 JesseH Are there faster ways to cut down trees?
06:38 LemonLake in default, no
06:39 LemonLake there are timber mods out there, and krock's server has a chainsaw built-in to bitchange
06:39 JesseH Oh okay. I'm looking for ways to progress as a tree farmer. :P
06:39 LemonLake (which i believe is exclusive to said server)
06:39 JesseH But it seems I've hit my limit on what I can do in a day.
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06:40 nman3600 Hi
06:40 LemonLake おはよう!
06:41 telek1 '99 and older GST/GSX eclipses kick ***. I will agree the majority of eclipse models suck however.
06:42 nman3600 Is there a "double chests mod" Like if you put a chest next to a chest it expands. There's one in MiniTest, But it's in a game and it won't help... Anyone?
06:42 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2558
06:42 LemonLake !title
06:42 MinetestBot LemonLake: [Mod] Big Chests [0.2] [bigchests] - Minetest Forums
06:43 nman3600 That's not what I'm looking for
06:43 nman3600 That's just a chest with double slots
06:43 LemonLake if you're that desperate, i can nab it out of minitest
06:43 nman3600 LemonLake, Please.
06:44 LemonLake owow that's a lotta code
06:44 nman3600 I know
06:44 LemonLake this might take some time
06:44 LemonLake don't go releasing this, i doubt pilzadam will be hpapy
06:44 nman3600 No It's just for my singleplayer worlds, LemonLake.
06:45 VanessaE bbl
06:45 nman3600 Okay, VanessaE.
06:46 LemonLake VanessaE: さようなら!
06:48 JesseH What would you guys do with a largish flat area, in default?
06:50 LemonLake make it non-flat
06:50 LemonLake flat areas disgust me
06:50 JesseH lol
06:50 JesseH If I shave a tree of its leaves, will they grow back?
06:51 LemonLake nein
06:52 JesseH Is that yes? :P
06:52 LemonLake That means no.
06:52 JesseH Oh okay
06:52 JesseH Well poop. :(
06:52 LemonLake That's a cool idea, though.
06:52 LemonLake Might make a mod that does that.
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06:53 sylph Hello
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06:53 sylph Hi
06:54 Jordach tl;dr i borked my internal clock
06:54 sylph Just wanted to say that the new update hasn't been mentioned on Reddit.
06:54 sylph So it should be mentioned to get more publicity
06:55 Jordach sfan5, 7-1!
06:56 JesseH Cactus is cool because you can use what you get to make more. But I haven;t found a use for it. Except as a self-growing wall
06:56 Jordach it does keep mobs out
06:56 hoodedice hello Jordach
06:56 kaeza <Jordach> sfan5, 7-1! wat
06:56 kaeza just... WTF Brazil?
06:57 Jordach kaeza, Germans got 7 goals against brazil :3
06:57 JesseH For some reason, the cactus doesnt hurt when I touch it.
06:57 sylph So should I mention it on Reddit?
06:57 Jordach JesseH, never has, never will
06:57 hoodedice Jordach: want to play your games? just ping me
06:57 JesseH :(
06:57 kaeza JesseH, o/
06:57 JesseH Oh it works as fuel for a furnace too! That's useful
06:57 JesseH I will now start a cactus farm
06:57 JesseH kaeza, yoyo
06:57 sylph btw are the new mods compatible with the new version?
06:58 hoodedice sylph, go ahead
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06:58 Jordach hoodedice, MOOOOOOOVE
06:58 hoodedice I JUST STARTED
06:58 Jordach TF2 got beta maps
06:58 hoodedice okay
06:58 Jordach GTFO
06:59 hoodedice k
06:59 hoodedice <hoodedice> sylph, go ahead
07:00 kaeza sylph, most mods are compatible, yes, as the API has not changed much
07:00 LemonLake さようなら
07:01 kaeza (with the obvious exception of mods in "Old Mods" section)
07:02 * kaeza should really finish his xban2 GUI
07:02 kaeza and firearms not working, and homedecor locked signs, and... too much in TODO.txt :<
07:03 hoodedice <sylph> Just wanted to say that the new update hasn't been mentioned on Reddit.
07:03 hoodedice r/Minetest front page
07:03 hoodedice "Minetest 0.4.10 released!" sfan5, 2 days ago
07:04 sylph huh
07:04 sylph Couldn't find it by searching
07:04 hoodedice http://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/com​ments/2a029b/minetest_0410_released/
07:04 hoodedice FRONT PAGE
07:04 hoodedice It's like
07:04 hoodedice 7 upvotes and shiz mate
07:04 hoodedice HOW DID YOU MISS THAT?!
07:04 kaeza Jordach, you haven't fixed the animated chests yet :(
07:04 * kaeza slaps hoodedice
07:04 hoodedice I AM GOING FULL RETARD, I SHOULD NOT GO FULL RETARD
07:05 hoodedice ow
07:05 hoodedice thanks kaeza
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07:06 sylph Which is the best mob mod?
07:07 sylph I want something that I can work on and improve.
07:07 sylph Like, something semi-cannon
07:07 hoodedice THere is stu's mob framework
07:07 hoodedice Best in my opinion, but no longer actively updated
07:08 hoodedice So I would recommend MitseaKitsune's Creatures
07:08 JesseH How can I set fires?
07:08 JesseH Seems ill need lava
07:09 sylph I found it in Creative, Jess, but not sure about survival
07:10 sylph Woah
07:10 sylph In MirceaKitsune'a mod,
07:10 sylph I can play with the mobs!
07:10 sylph I've been waiting forever for minecraft to implenet that
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07:15 hoodedice sylph: Minecraft?
07:16 hummeleBop mine-what ?
07:18 JesseH so, ive been digging down for a while
07:18 sylph -.-
07:18 sylph Nvm
07:18 JesseH not sure whats going on
07:18 JesseH where da lava at? ;)
07:19 kaeza right under you >:D
07:19 kaeza it can appear anywhere
07:19 JesseH Lets hope I dont step on it
07:21 JesseH Im not even digging stairs down, im just digging down.
07:21 JesseH I'm eager to meet my firey maker?
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07:26 sylph Just a question.
07:26 sylph When a mod is added to the core game,
07:26 sylph is its code changed to C or is it kept as Lau?
07:29 JesseH I just fell into a cave and died :P
07:29 JesseH How will I get down there to fetch my stuff
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07:37 JesseH Well, luckily I had some ladders at the house...couldnt find lava though...no burning man tonight
07:42 telek1 sylph: lua
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07:45 JesseH LUA
07:46 JesseH https://github.com/mniip/LUA
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07:49 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add spaces around operators in boat mod code, fix a problem with boat staticdata, fix a crash that can occur with boat going over unknown nodes. c993e14 2014-07-09T09:47:51+02:00 http://git.io/2bVkkg
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07:53 Krock moin
07:54 PenguinDad hi Krock
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07:56 Krock hi PenguinDad
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08:20 hoodedice Morning Europeans
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08:27 Ragnar hello
08:27 Ragnar =)
08:27 Guest49241 well crap...
08:28 sfan5 meow
08:28 sfan5 hi everyone
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08:29 _Ragnar ok im back
08:29 _Ragnar sfan5
08:29 _Ragnar i am very sorry for the s##t i have done. please don't +q me =/
08:30 _Ragnar i came here to ask about modding...
08:30 * sfan5 meows at hoodedice
08:31 hoodedice Hello, my German brother
08:31 _Ragnar sfan5, is it possible to make a player partially invisible_
08:31 _Ragnar ?
08:31 sfan5 no
08:31 _Ragnar crap
08:31 hoodedice sfan, alpha?
08:31 hoodedice change texture, use transparent PNG?
08:31 _Ragnar that is a possibility, yes...
08:31 hoodedice Ragnar, try it!
08:32 _Ragnar but that would mean that i'll make 8 player skins + 8 58% transparent skins + 3 more skins with transparenty
08:32 _Ragnar i will
08:32 _Ragnar but will it work with the 3D players too?
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08:33 _Ragnar hi jp
08:33 jp Hi.
08:33 _Ragnar how's the server going?
08:33 jp Down for the moment. Back in few hours.
08:33 _Ragnar ok
08:34 _Ragnar now hoodedice... it is possible to change the 3D player skins to be different in-game right? with a bit of code in the mod?
08:34 hoodedice dude
08:34 hoodedice there is a player.png file in the minetest folders
08:34 hoodedice find it
08:34 _Ragnar i know
08:35 hoodedice change that image
08:35 hoodedice in game, yes there are mods
08:35 _Ragnar but i mean like i want there to be 8 kinds of skins at the same time...
08:35 hoodedice but for scratch testing for now, just do this
08:35 _Ragnar i know
08:35 hoodedice what do you want to do?
08:35 _Ragnar because i'm making a War3FT mod
08:36 _Ragnar with 8 races
08:36 * _Ragnar is discluding the Chameleon race
08:36 sfan5 hoodedice: I dunno whether that works
08:36 hoodedice !g War3ft
08:36 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://www.war3ft.com/
08:37 _Ragnar you found it :D
08:37 _Ragnar it's a CS 1.6 mod
08:37 _Ragnar that i adore
08:37 _Ragnar i need the invisibility for the human race and for the Cloak of Shadows
08:38 _Ragnar sfan5, is it possible to show a player a GUI when entering a command?
08:38 sfan5 sure
08:38 _Ragnar great
08:39 _Ragnar sfan5, would it be possible (tho) to create an invisibility parameter to players inside the engine?
08:39 hoodedice It is
08:39 sfan5 ofc
08:39 _Ragnar great...
08:39 hoodedice Anything is possible within the engine
08:40 _Ragnar i like the sound of that :D
08:40 hoodedice And I think it is an easy thing too...
08:40 _Ragnar great-er :D
08:40 _Ragnar will there be a Minetest 0.4.11?
08:40 * Krock meows at sfan5
08:40 * sfan5 purrs
08:40 _Ragnar or will it go to 0.5
08:41 _Ragnar much kittehz, very purrs, wow
08:41 * Krock gives _Ragnar https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/issues?milestone=4&amp;state=open
08:42 _Ragnar oh
08:42 _Ragnar so i should post it there?
08:43 Krock post? what?
08:43 Krock that's the answer on your latest question
08:44 Jordach sfan5, 7-1
08:44 Jordach wooooo
08:44 sfan5 Jordach: ik, woooooo
08:45 hoodedice wooooooo
08:45 hoodedice football
08:45 Jordach +1 for correct spelling
08:47 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/Qz9dK96
08:47 hoodedice of course
08:47 hoodedice Growing up in an Arab country and shiz
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08:48 hoodedice bbl
08:49 hoodedice sfan5, screenies got fixed?
08:49 sfan5 I don't think they got
08:50 _Ragnar sfan5, if you would to add transparency to the player model, how long would it take?
08:50 _Ragnar :D
08:50 hoodedice sfan, we also got some bugs in the MinGW build
08:50 kaeza Jordach, https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6368679680/h5C4AEE92/
08:51 sfan5 _Ragnar: I'm pretty sure that already works
08:51 _Ragnar i mean as a parameter
08:51 _Ragnar not in the skin
08:51 sfan5 dunno
08:51 sfan5 not long
08:51 _Ragnar so that i could change the players transparency with code
08:51 hoodedice Ragnar, do you mean "How long would it take to implement invisibility in the main engine code?"
08:51 _Ragnar yes
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08:52 hoodedice "So that I can be lazy and instead of implementing a mod that changes the player skin to transparent on a button press...
08:52 hoodedice ... I can bug some really busy people to do something that is not needed very badly."
08:52 _Ragnar don't do this
08:52 hoodedice Dude
08:52 hoodedice You can do it
08:53 _Ragnar i don't know any C/C++
08:53 hoodedice You don't NEED any
08:53 _Ragnar hokay?
08:53 hoodedice We have an extensive server side lua based modding system
08:53 _Ragnar and how should i do it with lua?
08:53 hoodedice You can do this: make a sorta item that changes player texture on use
08:54 _Ragnar because i just want to be able to change the player transparency in-game without making a f##kload of skins
08:54 hoodedice You don't need to make a shitload of skins. The way I see it, you need only 1
08:54 hoodedice Unless you want to add fx
08:56 hoodedice do you get it?
08:57 Jordach sfan5, Braz17 :D
08:57 _Ragnar no....
08:57 hoodedice _Ragnar: Yeah it works, setting alpha to 0 does render an invisible player
08:57 _Ragnar i actually don't... sorry... =|
08:57 hoodedice okay
08:57 _Ragnar within lua?
08:57 _Ragnar cool
08:58 _Ragnar i'll try that.... :O
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08:58 hoodedice Ok listen
08:58 hoodedice Download this mod: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9680
08:58 hoodedice Then find the character.png in your minetest_next folder
08:58 hoodedice Edit it and make it transparent
08:59 hoodedice Then save it as something else, and add it into this mod I linked
08:59 hoodedice Switch the skin by using the mod
08:59 hoodedice Press F7, voila, invisible
09:00 hoodedice Now rewrite the mod so that the player skin switches on use of an item
09:00 _Ragnar i will have 8 races, each can buy the Cloak of Shadows (makes the player 58% invisible) and one race can use that + has a skill that makes him invisible about 10%
09:01 _Ragnar that would mean 2*8+3 skins
09:01 _Ragnar 19
09:01 hoodedice That;s a lot of skins, but not a lot of work
09:01 hoodedice =D
09:01 hoodedice This is hacking
09:02 hoodedice Finding ways around the API to do stuff that is seemingly not possible on the first look
09:02 _Ragnar i know
09:02 hoodedice Good
09:02 _Ragnar but could lua change the transparency of an image?
09:02 hoodedice Are you a year older than the last time you were here?
09:03 hoodedice AFAIK, lua in minetest does not have image manipulation capabilities
09:03 _Ragnar ofc i am
09:03 _Ragnar well that sucks...
09:03 hoodedice !g lua image manipulation
09:03 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LibrariesAndBindings
09:04 hoodedice sfan, what is this? http://irrlua.sourceforge.net/
09:04 _Ragnar IrrLua is a Lua binding for the Irrlicht 3D rendering engine.
09:04 hoodedice I can read that
09:04 hoodedice haha
09:05 hoodedice But, is it the one we use in MT?!
09:05 hoodedice I thought ours was a custom implementation
09:05 _Ragnar hmm......
09:09 _Ragnar hoodedice
09:09 hoodedice what
09:09 _Ragnar did you know that c55 is celeron55...
09:09 _Ragnar and celeron is an intel cpy
09:09 _Ragnar cpu
09:09 * hoodedice facepalms
09:09 _Ragnar thus copyright stuff
09:09 hoodedice I HAVE AN INTEL CELERON MYSELF, I LOVE IT VERY MUCH AND YES I KNOW THAT C55 IS CELERON55
09:09 _Ragnar or patent stuff... :D
09:09 hoodedice I AM MARKED AS AWAY.
09:10 * Krock haz Intel Celeron (R)(C)(TM) D
09:10 _Ragnar i also have intel celeron
09:10 _Ragnar 2.35GHz
09:10 _Ragnar single core
09:10 _Ragnar also 768MB RAM
09:10 _Ragnar 128MB GPU
09:10 * hoodedice has dual Intel Celeron1005M @1.9GHz with an intel HD 2500
09:10 _Ragnar and Windows 7 Ultimate
09:10 * Krock slaps _Ragnar with 1x @3.06GHz
09:11 * hoodedice blows all the other celerons out of the water
09:11 _Ragnar screw you
09:11 * hoodedice slaps Krock with DUAL FUCKING CORES
09:11 * Krock slaps hoodedice with OMG SINGLECORE_SUCH_CLASSIC_AND_NOSTALGY
09:12 * hoodedice slaps Krock with 0.4.10 at 40+ fps with shaders and shiz
09:12 * PenguinDad slaps Krock with ®©™
09:12 * Krock slaps hoodedice with 0.4.10-dev_MSVC at 30- fps without shaders and shiz
09:12 * Krock gives PenguinDad &copy;
09:12 hoodedice when did you get a dev build?!
09:12 Krock whenever I want ^
09:12 * hoodedice is now seriously away
09:13 Krock I can build my devs self :P
09:13 PenguinDad Krock: you can build your own PilzAdam? :P
09:14 Krock PenguinDad, PilzAdam is too poisoned
09:14 Krock *toxic
09:14 Krock :3
09:15 Krock I'd die when I tried to build it
09:16 PenguinDad > it
09:16 * Krock created a /regenerate_terrain_omg_such_amazing-chatcommand </offtopic>
09:16 Krock adam yes, pilz no
09:19 * Krock gives PenguinDad some ddiscussion stuff
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09:19 Ragnar_droid Hi
09:20 Jordach sfan5, http://imgur.com/gallery/Voy1J
09:20 Ragnar_droid For those who dont know what an droid is, an droid is android
09:20 * Krock steals Ragnardroid's _
09:21 * Jordach slaps Ragnar_droid, Krock and hoodedice with an AMD A10 APU @ 4.1GHZ
09:21 Ragnar_droid Oh noes
09:21 Ragnar_droid IMPOSSIBRU
09:21 * Krock gives Jordach a cookie
09:21 Jordach i can always bump that shit upto ~6.8 GHZ
09:21 Krock u don't say?
09:21 sfan5 Jordach, meow
09:21 Ragnar_droid Dafuq dood... How is that even possibru
09:22 Krock NEOW
09:22 Ragnar_droid i7?
09:22 Jordach !c 105*63
09:22 MinetestBot 6615
09:23 Ragnar_droid Jordac... What cpu do u has
09:23 Ragnar_droid Doz 4 crappy eng. Im@phone
09:23 Ragnar_droid Soz*
09:23 PenguinDad Ragnar_droid: AMD A10 APU
09:23 Ragnar_droid Oh right
09:24 PenguinDad lol there are Mahogany tables in homedecor
09:25 Ragnar_droid I have an ati radeon 9800
09:25 Jordach https://mediacru.sh/09f729e4e40e
09:25 Jordach bite me
09:25 Ragnar_droid Suck that, APU
09:25 Jordach Ragnar_droid, enjoy CPU death at 75C
09:25 Jordach mine went to 85 and can go onwards
09:25 Jordach (they made these fackers out of the same shit as a GPU)
09:27 Ragnar_droid Jordach... I use toothpaste on my cpu.... No way its gonna die
09:29 Krock !c 4000/288
09:29 MinetestBot 13
09:29 Ragnar_droid Jordach.. Y u no impressed w/ win7u with 768mb of ddr1ram and a 30gb hdd (ide)
09:29 Krock !c 4000.0/288.0
09:29 MinetestBot 13.88888888888889
09:30 Ragnar_droid Krock
09:30 Krock Jordach, your CPU is about 14 times faster than mine :'(
09:30 Ragnar_droid Guess what android im using
09:30 Krock ^smartphone android
09:30 Ragnar_droid Thats because he has a Gpu built in his Cpu
09:31 Ragnar_droid CPU+GPU=APU
09:32 Krock still 14 times faster, even when I add my GPU to the CPU benchmark...
09:32 * Krock switches topics
09:32 Ragnar_droid Jordach has an Apu... Whoop de doo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/​Apu_Nahasapeemapetilon_%28The_Simpsons%29.png
09:34 Ragnar_droid Krock. U got any of dem DDR1 rams?
09:36 Ragnar_droid Hey jordach. Hows it goin
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09:46 Krock wut? M$ deleted the update page?
09:49 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/mi​netest-xban2/commits/master
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10:00 rubenwardy Hi all!
10:03 Ragnar_droid Hi
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10:11 Krock oh hi rubenwardy
10:12 Krock ok.
10:15 Calinou hi
10:16 jp Salut
10:16 * PenguinDad just had a game idea
10:17 Krock hi Calinou, jp, *
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10:34 rubenwardy Why are the topics in 'builds' stickies?
10:36 Krock cuz they got moved only
10:37 rubenwardy ok
10:37 Krock they keep their attributes if none removes the glue
10:37 rubenwardy So no conscious reason
10:37 Krock yup
10:38 rubenwardy !seen EvergreenTree
10:38 MinetestBot rubenwardy: evergreentree was last seen at 2014-07-09 03:52:56 UTC on #minetest
10:43 Krock eeh.
10:43 Krock http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#!page:1,filter:lovehart,filtertype:Author,
10:44 rubenwardy !tell EvergreenTree https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBox​Editor/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L23  try changing to find_package(PNG version REQUIRED) where version is the version of libpng. ie: find_package(PNG 12.3.6 REQUIRED). If it doesn't work, fiddle around with quotes ("12.3.6") and full versions (libpng-12.3.6)
10:44 MinetestBot rubenwardy: I'll pass that on when EvergreenTree is around
10:44 Krock o.o
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10:47 PenguinDad Krocĸ: O.O
10:48 Krock $.$
10:49 PenguinDad €.€
10:49 Krock £.£
10:50 * sfan5 meows at Krock
10:50 * Krock meows at sfan5
10:52 PenguinDad ¤.¤
10:52 Krock 
11:01 PenguinDad Oh noes mg broke! http://sprunge.us/jNZY
11:01 sfan5 PenguinDad: wat
11:03 VanessaE I wonder if...
11:03 * VanessaE checks her logs
11:05 VanessaE nope, no errors like that in my logs of the MG server I run
11:05 * Krock writes visual = " http://paneladebarrorestaurant.com/wp-c​ontent/uploads/2014/03/Sprite-Soda.png " into his codes
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11:06 VanessaE of course hardly no one even signs onto that server, much less plays it, so it's hard to be sure
11:07 PenguinDad https://github.com/Novatux/mg/commit/2ee​c47b9ed78250b2a6f5ca984726c34c65ee378#di​ff-a19d733b8206b789bf84a5efeee58eecL24
11:09 sfan5 Jordach: https://www.google.de/logos/doodles/2014/w​orld-cup-2014-58-6288520071086080.4-hp.gif
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11:23 nore PenguinDad: oops
11:25 nore should be fixed now :)
11:25 Jordach sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/AuyZxKGDvsgs.png
11:26 sfan5 lol
11:27 rubenwardy Krock, sprite XD
11:28 Krock wooo! someone saw it!
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11:43 Krock rubenwardy, can you solve this maths riddle?
11:43 Krock 1
11:43 Krock 11
11:43 Krock 21
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11:43 Krock 1211
11:43 Krock tell me the next number :3
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11:45 rubenwardy 111221
11:45 Krock rubenwardy, ninja'd by nore
11:46 rubenwardy Well sorry, I was busy coding
11:46 nore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look-and-say_sequence
11:49 Lugal Are there any Zombies, skeletons and creepers in minetest like in Minecraft?
11:51 rubenwardy See mobf
11:51 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=8638
11:51 rubenwardy Simplemobs also adds mobs, but not those listed
11:51 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9656
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11:54 Lugal is the game and the mode coded only by using text editor, or do you have a graphical model / world editor?
11:56 sfan5 there is a node box editor
11:56 sfan5 but the rest is done with a text editor
11:57 Krock graphical model? blender
11:59 Lugal k, thanks
12:06 rubenwardy For mobs you use blender or another 3d modelling program. For nodes (aka blocks), such as stairs, chairs, etc you use node boxes.
12:07 PenguinDad nore: it still crashes http://sprunge.us/jEji
12:08 nore oops... some local that shouldn't be here
12:09 Lugal and is there a standart 3d model format/file-extension or does each editor use its own?
12:09 nore PenguinDad: better now?
12:10 rubenwardy Lugal: *.x is the most commonly used format, but .3ds and others work too
12:11 PenguinDad nore: it still doesn't work
12:11 PenguinDad 14:10:49: ERROR[main]: ServerError: /home/vinyl/Minetest/minetest​/bin/../mods/mg/init.lua:718: attempt to call upvalue 'villages_at_point' (a nil value)
12:12 nore PenguinDad, try again now, it should work
12:14 PenguinDad nore: it's fixed now
12:14 nore ah, good
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12:20 Jordach rubenwardy, unless you happen to be me
12:20 Jordach then i use a mob / node :3
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12:23 PenguinDad mob + node = mobe
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13:33 Krock 1 hour no talk...
13:34 Zeno` I've been talking
13:34 Zeno` To myself
13:35 Zeno` Krock, https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=9686
13:35 Zeno` ^-- have you noticed any server performance issues?
13:35 Krock nope.avi
13:35 Krock it was already worse than it is now
13:37 Zeno` I dunno... I can find the exact commit sapier made, but *for me* server performance is hugely improved
13:37 Zeno` I dunno
13:37 Zeno` most people think me crazy anyway
13:38 SylvieLorxu Does anyone know anything about the licenses of mods in the Minetest mod browser?
13:38 Krock mod browser?
13:39 SylvieLorxu Mods -> Online mod repository
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13:40 SylvieLorxu My git build has that :x
13:40 Krock oh that one
13:40 Krock it's broken for me :3
13:40 SylvieLorxu It works for me but I don't see a license anywhere
13:40 Krock mostly,it's WTFPL
13:41 SylvieLorxu WTFPL is the best license
13:41 SylvieLorxu But still, having that info is something I want readily available because MY FREEDOM :P
13:41 SylvieLorxu Maybe I should file a bug report on it
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14:03 Krock split
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14:06 VanessaE splatsplit :)
14:07 Krock no.
14:07 Krock splitsplat
14:07 VanessaE (well, fake split anyway ;) )
14:07 VanessaE no, it's splatsplit dammit ;)
14:07 VanessaE * = splat
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14:11 Krock http://i.imgur.com/2c1Gs2E.png
14:11 VanessaE interesting biome algorithm.
14:12 VanessaE the patterns look familiar somehow...
14:12 PenguinDad Krock: your mapgen?
14:12 Krock ice is missing...seems like it needs some work more
14:12 Krock PenguinDad, yup
14:12 nore Krock: this is not perlin noise, am I right?
14:12 Krock it's perlin
14:12 Krock 5x
14:13 nore what do you mean, 5x?
14:13 Krock 5 perlin maps are used
14:13 nore ah, ok :)
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14:53 Krock hmm
14:53 Krock every 3rd map generation request is a duplicate
14:55 Krock and somehow, the voxelmanip as mapgen object is much faster than the normal
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15:01 PenguinDad Krock: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/b​lob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1270-1272
15:03 Krock PenguinDad, I think it's not releated to the function. It could be because the vmanip as non-mapgen doesn't modify just one complete chunk
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15:05 PenguinDad Krock: chunk?
15:05 Krock map block*
15:09 PenguinDad Krock: the mapgen vmanip modifies 125 map blocks at once
15:09 Krock ^depends on map_meta.txt "chunksize = 4"
15:11 PenguinDad if you don't modify the chunksize setting it modifies 125 map blocks
15:11 Krock yes.
15:12 * PenguinDad doesn't want to try "chunksize = 50"
15:23 Jordach i have a grave feeling about this https://cdn.mediacru.sh/gjzELK4bARd0.png
15:23 Krock http://i.imgur.com/uoEiypC.png
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15:29 hoodedice Krock, tat looks awesome
15:30 Krock thx
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15:31 hoodedice Zeno', I think this release is the best I have ever seen, better than 0.4.3 and even 0.4.8
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15:33 hoodedice Hi Calinou
15:33 Jordach Calinou, jumping then placing a block below you is broken in carbone
15:34 Calinou engine problem
15:34 Calinou the jump height in Carbone is reduced, as well as gravity, to feel better
15:34 Jordach Calinou, might be physics
15:35 Calinou you may want to Shift + jump (ugh, another engine bug) to circumvent this
15:35 Calinou yes, exactly
15:35 Jordach because i can do it easily in my own game :3
15:35 Calinou intentionally
15:35 Calinou try shift-jumping to jump higher
15:35 Calinou blame engine devs for not letting players place blocks inside them
15:35 Calinou (which should be allowed, it's part of Minetest now)
15:35 Calinou add suffocation damage if it's not enough…
15:36 VanessaE Calinou: that was just fixed in _game.  works fine there.
15:36 Krock updated https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9331
15:36 VanessaE well as fixed as it can get anyway
15:36 Calinou increasing the jump height isn't a solution, else it feels like you're playing Bumpy Moose
15:36 Calinou the C++ code should be fixed
15:37 VanessaE Calinou: I'm pretty sure my server is up-to-date:  I can place blocks inside myself . is that a client-side bug/fix then?
15:38 VanessaE my client is at HEAD>
15:38 Calinou the check is client-side, it's disabled if noclip is enabled.
15:38 Calinou you can disable such a thing with a client-side mod
15:38 Calinou (thank Minetest for not being Red Eclipse)
15:38 VanessaE and so is my server
15:38 VanessaE ah yeah noclip is turned on, but I'm not flying.
15:38 Calinou noclip on also disables the black screen when inside a block
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15:39 Lugal1 how can I change the game speed?
15:39 VanessaE server and client are both at HEAD.  anyway yeah, I had noclip on but I thought that switch was only supposed to be meaningful while flying?  who changed that>
15:39 VanessaE Lugal1: the game speed?
15:39 VanessaE what do you mean?
15:40 Krock press H J K and then W + E in combination
15:40 Calinou movement speed, jump height and gravity can be changed in Carbone using commands
15:40 VanessaE Krock: please don't confuse people ....
15:40 VanessaE Lugal1: are you talking about walk/run speed or something else?
15:41 hoodedice lol Krock
15:41 Krock VanessaE, why confuse? You can understand that question on diffrent ways
15:41 hoodedice Krock, I just saw in the map that your ice biome has terrain height differences
15:41 VanessaE Krock: yse and his question is clearly confused... when you throw a bunch of random-sounding keys at him, you confuse him further.
15:42 VanessaE yes*
15:42 hoodedice Lugal1, are you still there?
15:42 Krock VanessaE, why random? I just don't know which one of themis fas_mode by default :3
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15:42 hoodedice And I don't think that an ice biome having mountains is realistic
15:42 Krock hoodedice, yes. It has some elevation..
15:42 Krock titanic?
15:42 VanessaE Krock: he didn't say if he's on a server or singleplayer, or whether he even has the necessary privs to activate those modes.
15:42 hoodedice Those are icebergs
15:43 Krock VanessaE, whatever.. we don't even know if (s)he is still reading the chat
15:43 VanessaE true
15:43 Krock sso.. :3
15:43 hoodedice but due to physics, it is impossible for ice to form mountains, unless a huge chuck broke off and fell to a lower elevation, but then again, it would melt due to the higher elevation
15:44 Lugal1 yes,  walt run speed and build/dig speed
15:44 hoodedice And again, ice forms when there is a lot of standing water, like a lake
15:44 Krock hoodedice, wut? melt because it has a higher elevation?
15:44 hoodedice no no
15:44 hoodedice Lugal, to increase run speed in singleplayer, use /grant singleplayer fast
15:44 hoodedice And then press E while moving
15:45 VanessaE Lugal1: dig speed is dependent on the tool you are using.  walk speed is fixed.  run speed, if you are allowed to run, is turned on by holding 'e' while you walk and is 20 m/sec
15:45 Krock hoodedice, you forgot to tell about "enable fast_mode" :P
15:45 hoodedice To increase mining speed, use a better tool
15:45 VanessaE building nodes is at a fixed speed.
15:45 hoodedice Oh and press 'k' to turn fast_mode on or off after /grant singleplayer fast
15:45 VanessaE you can increase those 'fixed' speeds by perhaps using a different game, as Calinou suggested.
15:46 Krock ..or creative mode
15:46 Krock -e
15:46 VanessaE Krock: not always.
15:46 Krock but mostly
15:46 Calinou VanessaE, I should ask the minetest_game developers to merge such things to minetest_game, same for the damage sounds
15:46 Calinou but they may refuse doing it :(
15:46 VanessaE Calinou: try anyway
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15:47 VanessaE it's sfan5, nore and BlockMen you're dealing with now, not Pilz :)
15:47 * sfan5 meows
15:47 hoodedice Krock, I was saying, that ice mountains are possible if a huge chunck of them from a higher elevation (where it is colder) broke off and fell to a lower elevation, but then the ice would melt because it would be hotter
15:47 VanessaE see?
15:47 hoodedice lel
15:47 Krock VanessaE, don't call him Pilz!
15:48 VanessaE Krock: I did that as a joke :)
15:48 Krock hoodedice, true. I'll try to change that a bit
15:48 * PilzAdam gives Krock a cookie
15:48 * hoodedice steal the cookie
15:48 VanessaE sfan5: you guys willing to entertain better ingot textures?  even if they use a full 16px width?  nore has a trial image here...somewhere
15:48 * hoodedice can't eat the cookie, though.
15:49 sfan5 VadtecWk: pull and we'll see
15:49 VanessaE tab complete FAIL :)
15:49 * Krock grabs hoodedice's stolen cookie and noms it
15:49 hoodedice Krock, you made it sound wrong
15:49 Krock grammar
15:49 VanessaE /kick Vadtec stop fucking up sfan5's tab ordering ;)
15:49 hoodedice It should be "Krock grabs his stolen cookie..."
15:50 * Krock troutgrammarnazislaps hoodedice
15:50 Lugal1 ok, thanks, the H J K helped me :)
15:50 * hoodedice ducks
15:50 Krock ^^^^^^
15:50 Calinou VanessaE, I resized ingots from 16 × 17 to 16 × 16 in Carbone and improved them a bit
15:50 Calinou especially gold
15:50 hoodedice =O
15:50 sfan5 VanessaE: I've had enough of this, I'll tell xchat to sort tab list by last action
15:50 hoodedice lol Krock
15:50 Calinou VanessaE, I asked in ##minetest-next about commands.lua
15:50 VanessaE sfan5: I thought I did that already but it still fails once in a while
15:50 Calinou but the ideal would be to have that stuff in builtin
15:50 Vadtec fair nuff
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15:51 VanessaE I was kidding! :(
15:51 hoodedice I sense a ragequit
15:51 * VanessaE wonders if he reads the logs
15:51 VanessaE get back in here Vadtek :P
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15:52 Vadtec dont midn me
15:52 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1464 SHould this be an issue?
15:52 Vadtec im bored
15:52 VanessaE HA, he DOES read the logs :D
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15:53 VanessaE (and I can't spell, either)
15:53 VadtecWk indeed i do
15:53 VadtecWk i just have ZERO time for gaming these days
15:54 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463 Now I am angry... I told him not to be lazy, and blah blah but he still went ahead and bugged the devs
15:54 Lugal1 "enable fast_mode" doesnt work :(
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15:55 Lugal1 enable command not found
15:55 VanessaE Lugal1: press J
15:55 VanessaE then hold "e" to actually run fast
15:55 VanessaE (or press J again if you already did once)
15:55 VanessaE we don't use chatcommands for the simpler functions like that
15:56 * sfan5 meows at VanessaE
15:56 VanessaE meow :)
15:56 VadtecWk maybe at the end of summer ill be less time constrained and can get back into minetest, ive really missed world buidling, and my kids are annoyed that i havent setup a server for them again
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15:57 VanessaE sfan5: I'll leave it to nore to actually issue the pull request when he's ready; he dcc'd the candidate texture to me but I don't wanna just randomly shoot it off to someone else without his say-so
15:57 Lugal1 ok, all works now :)
15:57 Lugal1 but another problem
15:57 hoodedice Too fast?
15:57 VadtecWk until then, i guess ill keep fucking up tab completes....
15:57 hoodedice haha
15:57 VadtecWk ;P
15:57 VanessaE VadtecWk: I was only kidding :(
15:57 VadtecWk :P
15:57 Lugal1 the creature mod doent work . I have "unknown object" instead of the creatures. why?
15:58 VanessaE Lugal1: Are you running 0.4.10?
15:58 VadtecWk i will say this though, i hate seeing all the cool ideas and features and coding flow by and not being able to play minetest... more than once ive almost downloaded it here at work to give it a whirl...but that might not go well with the bosses
15:58 Krock hoodedice, do you think, the ice biome needs snow blocks on it?
15:58 VadtecWk keep up the good work coders
15:59 hoodedice You could interspread ice with the snow
15:59 hoodedice in a snow biome
15:59 hoodedice or make ice sheets
15:59 VanessaE VadtecWk: well, VNC to your machine at home ;)
15:59 Krock hmm okay
15:59 hoodedice you could try adding spike of ice at the top of mountains, or an ice cliff
15:59 VanessaE it'd be slow but then you could make the argument that it's an admin tool :)
15:59 VadtecWk VanessaE, oh i do (how do you think Vadtec /parted), but that doesnt solve the real issue of "gaming at work" lol
16:00 Lugal1 yes 0.4.10
16:00 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463 #rant
16:00 VadtecWk LOL i wish
16:00 VadtecWk but i work in IT
16:00 VadtecWk so they know better
16:00 VanessaE Vadtec: right but at least the boss couldn't accuse you of installing a game ;)
16:00 VanessaE Lugal1: ok that at least good.  is the actual creatures mod up-to-date?  Where did you download it from - I mean, what is the link?
16:01 VadtecWk VanessaE, i tried a few months ago, internet is to laggy to make it playable :(
16:01 Lugal1 I tried 3 . 2 from website, one installed from the menu in game
16:02 * VanessaE pokes Taoki
16:02 VadtecWk anyways, sorry for messin up tab complete, id rather be chatting about minetest than just reading the logs, but i gotta get back to work, these PCs wont set themselves up (sadly because we have no PXE server to make that possible)
16:03 VanessaE cya VanessaE
16:03 VanessaE fuck
16:03 VanessaE now I did it :P
16:03 VanessaE cya Vadtec
16:03 VadtecWk LOL
16:03 VadtecWk i needed that
16:03 Calinou you said cya to yourself
16:04 VanessaE Lugal1: I can't begin to guess when 3.2 was released, but I would have to venture a guess that it's merely out of date.  uninstall it, make sure it's completely gone, and then fetch a new copy from here:  https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minet​est_mods_creatures/archive/master.zip
16:04 VanessaE (that's the official download link)
16:04 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/P3ytKjW4
16:04 VanessaE install this to your minetest mods folder.
16:05 Lugal1 no
16:05 VanessaE rename it to just "creatures" after you unzip it
16:05 Taoki VanessaE: hi
16:05 Lugal1 I mean I tried 3 mods
16:05 Lugal1 2 of them from the website
16:05 VanessaE OH ok
16:05 VanessaE hoodedice: bad link, but the result is funny anyway :)
16:06 hoodedice lolwut
16:06 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/P3ytKjW
16:06 VanessaE Lugal1: right.  so, uninstall whatever you have and try the link I just gave
16:06 hoodedice 4 jumped on the bandwagon haha
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16:10 Lugal1 LuaEntity name: "mobs:rat" not defined....    thats the error, and I still see no monsters
16:11 hoodedice VanessaE: Is the TravisCI thing opt-in?
16:11 VanessaE sfan5: catch
16:11 VanessaE hoodedice: automatic, I think
16:11 * sfan5 catched
16:11 VanessaE sfan5: this is the image nore created.
16:12 hoodedice Because I feel uncomfortable with all the energy waste going to builds, even when the commit is a simple lua_api.txt change
16:13 Taoki Sorry, hard to keep up with that now. An error with Creatures?
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16:14 Lugal1 ok, monsters work, but animals dont :(
16:14 VanessaE Taoki: creatures is/was spawning unknown entities, according to Lugal1
16:14 VanessaE sfan5: is that a go, no-go, gtfo? :)
16:14 sfan5 VanessaE: finally something that looks like a read ingot
16:14 VanessaE woo!
16:14 Taoki Lugal1: Did you use an old version and now update? Some entity definitions changed, you'll need to do /clearobjects or create a new world
16:14 * sfan5 gives VanessaE a small sign with "yay!" written on it
16:15 VanessaE haha
16:15 sfan5 you can use that coupon for the pull request
16:15 sfan5 :P
16:15 VanessaE lol
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16:15 * VanessaE hands the coupon to nore
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16:16 nore sfan5: <nore> ok, I'll do the others in a few hours then but first, I'll play technic a bit :)
16:16 sfan5 k
16:16 sfan5 Lugal1: you asked about the mesh formats, right? http://irrlicht.sourceforge.n​et/features/#supportedformats
16:18 hoodedice ohoy sfan https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php​?f=6&amp;t=9700&amp;view=unread#p147759
16:19 sfan5 all of sfan5's have no audio for me
16:19 sfan5 was able to reproduce
16:19 sfan5 but too lazy to fix
16:20 Lugal1 yes, I used old world, and installed new mods, thats the reason?
16:21 Lugal1 I gtg now, sorry, I come later, cya
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16:38 hoodedice Should I continue work on that manual I was gonna make for the game?
16:39 sfan5 hoodedice: why not?
16:39 hoodedice k, I will; on the other hand I will first finish off that globeminner thing which I never got around to finishng haha
16:42 hoodedice sfan http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
16:43 hoodedice Do users of the minetest program have to release modified source code?
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16:45 Calinou manual should probably be in the wiki
16:45 asie hoodedice: I think so
16:45 asie Minetest is LGPL, isn't it?
16:45 Calinou don't make it a PDF when you can just put it on the wiki, readable by everyone with only a Web browser
16:45 Calinou asie, yes (2.1)
16:45 asie yup
16:45 Calinou hoodedice, http://openarena.wikia.com → look there for an example of the kind of Manual I'm talking about
16:45 asie hoodedice: if you plan to publish your changes, you need to publish the source code
16:45 asie this does not apply to mods, only to the minetest engine itself
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16:47 Calinou most of the default mods are LGPL too
16:47 Calinou my mods are zlib, but WorldEdit is AGPL 3 notably, which means the source code of it must be released if it's put on a server and a player asks for it
16:47 Calinou eg. I connect to WorldEdit server, I see someone modified something in the code; if I ask for source they must give it, because I'm accessing it over a network
16:49 hoodedice Cal,  there is already a manual in the wiki, just needs to be fixed up a bit
16:50 hoodedice asie: Can you check this: http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
16:50 Calinou it's not an open culture license
16:50 Calinou it's a free software license
16:51 hoodedice dun
16:53 Calinou fixing stuff, please don't edit for now
16:54 hoodedice k
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16:55 nore sfan5: should I push the new ingot textures, or make a pull request?
16:55 Calinou done
16:55 nman3600 I've got 2 legits nyan cats on your server Krock :D :) :D
16:55 Krock congrats
16:55 nman3600 :) Thanks!
16:58 hoodedice Cal, adding links to Minetest Android builds, I'll get back when article is complete
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17:02 twoelk hoodedice: I would think a nice quick reference card, printable on one page might be pretty usefull
17:02 * PenguinDad gives nman3600 the omg-i-found-over-one-nyan-cat badge
17:02 sfan5 nore: pull please
17:02 nore ok
17:02 hoodedice I'll do that twoelk, I'll make a two page quick reference guide =)
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17:02 hoodedice Thanks for the tip
17:03 twoelk something one can put beside the keyboard ;-)
17:05 nore sfan5, done :)
17:07 VanessaE Calinou: shall I make new textures for the last couple of moreores ingots based on what I just did using nore's tweaked image?
17:08 Calinou I'd like tin and silver ingots, most importantly
17:08 VanessaE on it.
17:12 VanessaE Calinou: catch.
17:12 Calinou why a DCC
17:12 Calinou my ports aren't forwarded anyway
17:12 sfan5 VanessaE: psst.. https://mediacru.sh
17:12 Calinou (and probably won't)
17:12 VanessaE ok I'll upload it then :P
17:13 sfan5 Calinou: works if only one person has ports forwarded
17:13 Calinou I never understood DCC
17:13 * sfan5 did not have ports fwd'd either
17:13 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vaness​a/hobbies/minetest/moreores_ingots.zip
17:14 VanessaE (why use mediacru.sh if I have my own server? :P )
17:14 sfan5 you can set up a MediaCrush instance on your own server too
17:15 VanessaE too lazy :)
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17:19 hoodedice sapier, should the android app be considered stable?
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17:22 hoodedice Calinou:  http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
17:24 sfan5 hoodedice: no
17:24 hoodedice k
17:30 VanessaE Calinou: well merge already :)
17:32 hoodedice merge what?
17:32 VanessaE hoodedice: the images in the zip I linked.
17:33 hoodedice ah k, srry
17:34 hoodedice I like how two links in the google search result for "Globeminner" point to Minetest
17:35 twoelk hoodedice: you are aware of this page? http://wiki.minetest.net/O​verview_of_Minetest_forks
17:36 hoodedice I just saw it
17:37 hoodedice Needs some fixes tho
17:37 twoelk it sure does
17:38 twoelk have been wondering whether something like unofficial "forks" should be added
17:39 twoelk but thenagain  I don't want to promote those other versions
17:41 hoodedice In the actual Minetest Infringment article draft that I am publishing now, we did name and shame them.
17:41 hoodedice I decided to leave them out because drama.
17:46 hoodedice twoelf, Minetest M 13 isn't even a real fork
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17:57 hoodedice Hai EvergreenTree
17:57 EvergreenTree hai
17:59 PenguinDad shark
18:03 LemonLake sfan5: ニャー
18:03 sfan5 nyan
18:03 LemonLake oh of coures
18:03 LemonLake that's where it comes from :P
18:04 LemonLake ニャー 猫 :P
18:04 PenguinDad Meow cat
18:05 LemonLake nyan cat
18:05 LemonLake ニャー = nya = meow
18:07 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
18:07 * LemonLake meows at sfan5
18:07 * hoodedice barks at both
18:07 * LemonLake fucks off away from hoodedice
18:08 * PenguinDad squawks at hoodedice
18:08 * hoodedice was not fucking LemonLake in the first place
18:08 * LemonLake never said that
18:08 * hoodedice also never said that
18:09 * sfan5 meows at hoodedice
18:09 * hoodedice licks sfan5
18:09 * sfan5 licks paw
18:09 * Krock hugs everybody
18:09 * LemonLake runs away from Krock
18:09 hoodedice ewwwwwww gay!
18:10 * Krock catches LemonLake
18:10 * LemonLake runs away again
18:10 * PenguinDad gives Krock a cookie
18:10 Krock hugs aren't gay
18:10 hoodedice You didn't say no homo
18:10 hoodedice no homo
18:10 * hoodedice hugs Krock
18:10 VanessaE "It's like a little boy's nursery school I've come upon here."
18:11 Calinou hugs aren't gay indeed
18:11 LemonLake ^
18:11 LemonLake I just have problems with affection from stranges.
18:11 hoodedice dude
18:11 hoodedice running joke
18:12 sfan5 plol
18:12 LemonLake Jokes can run now?
18:12 LemonLake Since when did that happen?
18:12 sfan5 I just typo'd "local var = 1" as "lolcat var = 1"
18:12 twoelk since running gags?
18:12 Calinou lolcat var = tralse
18:12 * Krock gives sfan5 a cookie
18:12 LemonLake gags can run too?
18:12 LemonLake ew
18:12 PenguinDad sfan5: plol
18:12 * sfan5 meows at Krock
18:13 twoelk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_gag
18:13 LemonLake ew cookies
18:13 sfan5 ew LemonLake
18:13 PenguinDad ew ew
18:13 LemonLake I dislike cookies.
18:13 EvergreenTree cookies are awesome
18:13 LemonLake They give me migraines. Fun stuff.
18:14 PenguinDad since the cake is a lie we need cookies
18:14 EvergreenTree cookies with migraines? where do you get those cookies from?
18:14 EvergreenTree :p
18:14 VanessaE LemonLake: mix in a little ganja and those migraines should go away :)
18:14 hoodedice fun fact: ganja in hindi means bald.
18:15 Calinou oppa ganja style
18:15 LemonLake mix in a little bald...
18:15 LemonLake i
18:15 * twoelk thinks of some space cockies he had in Amsterdam
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18:15 LemonLake i don't think that's socially acceptable
18:15 EvergreenTree cockies?  eh...
18:15 VanessaE Calinou: well, merge those images already :)
18:15 Jordach twoelk, you were definitely floating
18:15 Jordach i know what they put in those brownies (i sometimes make a batch)
18:16 twoelk driving was interesting after having some
18:16 Calinou these look good
18:16 VanessaE twoelk: watch out!  you'll wreck!  ...at 10 kph. :)
18:16 LemonLake sfan5: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/rWy5x-rwE2dk.png
18:16 hoodedice kph, hmph, so unpatriotic
18:16 sfan5 LemonLake: "omg that person can draw"
18:16 hoodedice LET ME INSTALL FREEDOM.EXE
18:17 * twoelk learned of new ingridients he didn't know could be backed
18:17 Calinou where can I get the new default ingots, VanessaE?
18:17 Calinou so that I put them in Carbone
18:17 VanessaE hoodedice: officially the US is on the metric standard.  we just don't use it on our signage.
18:17 hoodedice Nice to hear that
18:17 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/Novatux/minetest_game/com​mit/90fcc9507aa1bde6e47032730972c95ab2d45ecd
18:17 Calinou looks strange without outline, LemonLake
18:17 Calinou flat design :D
18:17 hoodedice Looks like the Sharia.exe is working
18:17 hoodedice =P
18:17 LemonLake Calinou: that's how i art style
18:18 LemonLake deal with it
18:18 PenguinDad hoodedice: you have strange programs installed :P
18:18 sfan5 hello Megaf
18:18 hoodedice lol
18:18 LemonLake Megaf: and tell me
18:18 hoodedice hi
18:18 LemonLake what the fuck was the point in that
18:19 hoodedice no point at all
18:19 Megaf LemonLake; easier to say hi like that when you are on 40+ channels
18:19 hoodedice The point that there was no point at all was the fucking point
18:20 Megaf The point is, does that matters for you?
18:20 LemonLake Yes.
18:20 Megaf Did I hurt your feelings?
18:20 Megaf If so, I'm sorry ok!?
18:20 LemonLake Yes.
18:20 LemonLake Can't accept that apple elegy. Sorry.
18:20 Megaf I apologize
18:21 PenguinDad The point was also known as period or dot.
18:21 LemonLake 。Sassy point.
18:21 Calinou LemonLake, flat design is a cool thing to me
18:21 LemonLake Minimalistic vectors they're called
18:21 LemonLake But usually you don't draw faces, I just felt they were ultimately necessary for this one.
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18:23 twoelk LemonLake: the shadow on the womens neck seems a bit of for me, else great work!
18:23 LemonLake That's what I thought
18:23 twoelk *off
18:23 LemonLake Do you mean the neck shadow, or the chest shadow?
18:23 twoelk neck
18:23 LemonLake I might shorten it
18:24 twoelk compared to the guy
18:24 LemonLake Yeah
18:24 LemonLake The light is slightly angled yet it's not entirely obvious
18:24 Calinou VanessaE, added ingots
18:25 VanessaE I saw :)  \o/
18:25 LemonLake It's centred on Ushio
18:25 Calinou they look quite better, having an outline makes more sense
18:25 LemonLake I'll shorten the neck shadow and see how it looks
18:26 VanessaE Calinou: thank nore, he drew the default gold ingot, from which I derived all the others :)
18:26 nore actually, I based it on BlockMen's gold ingot
18:26 nore I just made it not look like a brick :)
18:26 twoelk if the light is to be coming from center top left, maybe the ribbon should cast some shadow
18:27 Krock BlockMen:gold_ingot
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18:30 Dezem hi
18:30 LemonLake twoelk: looking at references, it is typically drawn long shaded like it is
18:30 LemonLake http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21000000/Na​gisa-Furukawa-okazaki-nagisa-21049884-496-640.jpg
18:30 Krock hi
18:30 LemonLake http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2011121​6164559/c__/clannad/images/b/ba/Nagisa.jpg
18:30 Dezem krock do you know cg72
18:30 LemonLake to spotlight a few
18:31 Krock "know" -> no | "talked with" -> yes
18:31 Dezem have you talked to her lately or k ow wat channel she is on
18:32 Krock irc.inchra.net : 6667 #minetest
18:32 Krock ^ IRC server
18:33 Dezem do i type 6667 #minetest
18:33 LemonLake hold it in, LemonLake, hold it in
18:33 Dezem wat lemoncake
18:33 Dezem i mean lake
18:34 sfan5 >lemoncake
18:34 sfan5 lol
18:34 LemonLake i get it more than enough
18:34 LemonLake dont make me kill a parrot
18:34 LemonLake or somethin
18:34 Krock omg LEMONCAKE <3
18:34 Dezem wooooooww
18:34 twoelk ?
18:35 Krock !
18:35 Dezem does anyone know what website has #freetalk
18:35 Krock this server has #freetalk
18:36 twoelk LemonLake: those are good examples of shadows as they should be in respect to the lighting in the pictures (near noon)
18:36 LemonLake which it is
18:37 twoelk you do know how to construckt shadows?
18:37 twoelk *construct
18:37 Krock http://irc.lc/inchra/minetest/guest@@@
18:37 Krock ^dezem
18:38 twoelk trace the male chin to the shadow tip, now do that to the woman and compare. Where does the light come from?
18:42 VanessaE there, dreambuilder updated.  those ingot images were a good excuse to update all of the base game imagery anyway
18:45 * twoelk hopes he didn't annoy LemonLake
18:45 LemonLake Hello
18:45 LemonLake No, you did not  :)
18:47 * twoelk just visited this http://animexx.onlinewelten.com/events/64021/ and might be over critical
18:48 LemonLake ooo
18:48 LemonLake chiisai means small
18:49 twoelk was just a few hundred people
18:50 * twoelk did not go in costume though
18:51 * Krock wants his hand on the left side
18:51 twoelk double left handed?
18:52 LemonLake u wot
18:53 Krock twoelk, no. the right hand should be moved on the left side. it confuses me
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18:53 LemonLake um
18:53 LemonLake what
18:53 LemonLake hand what where?
18:53 twoelk might affect balance
18:54 Krock (in-game hand)
18:54 LemonLake oe
18:54 twoelk unbalanced gameplay then?
18:56 twoelk actually that might be something that should be configurable
18:56 Krock hmm who would do those HUD things? blockmen?
18:57 twoelk does the hand change when using that creatures mod?
18:58 twoelk or whas it ghost mod?
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18:59 EvergreenTree twoelk: no it doesn't
19:00 EvergreenTree I don't think so at least
19:01 twoelk might be fun if I played a treemonster, waving with a twig
19:07 LemonLake this is disappointed
19:07 LemonLake disappointing*
19:07 LemonLake it takes 12 seconds to save..
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19:07 Ragnar_droid Hi
19:08 LemonLake こんいちは
19:09 Ragnar_droid Hey o heard that i can edit the saturation and i think the alpha of a texture "t.png^[sat" or something like that
19:09 LemonLake if you have magic powers then you can for sure
19:10 Ragnar_droid Im 2 levels away from magic powers... Still need about 3.14K of XP
19:10 LemonLake get out, take your logic with you
19:10 Ragnar_droid Its cold out
19:11 LemonLake just dont look at me
19:11 Ragnar_droid Like 10°C
19:11 LemonLake ok?
19:11 * Krock gives Ragnar_droid 0.00159265358979K of XP
19:11 Ragnar_droid Oh you teaser
19:11 Krock s/gives/takes/
19:11 Ragnar_droid But Krock... Can i do that
19:12 LemonLake omgzgzg
19:12 LemonLake im nearly doneeee
19:12 Krock with?
19:12 LemonLake my clannad art
19:12 Ragnar_droid Omfgzgz
19:12 Ragnar_droid I dont care
19:12 Ragnar_droid Troll4Troll
19:12 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/v9mcHpyvapTq.png
19:13 LemonLake do you care now?
19:13 Ragnar_droid Hentai! Now i do care!
19:13 LemonLake ummm...
19:13 LemonLake that's not hentai
19:13 * Ragnar_droid loves hentai
19:14 LemonLake hmm
19:14 LemonLake well okay then
19:14 * Krock gives LemonLake a real life picture
19:14 LemonLake no objections
19:14 LemonLake no, Ragnar_droid, this is anime
19:14 Ragnar_droid It hasnt begun yet.. The story just started... No true hentai starts with sex
19:14 LemonLake Ragnar_droid:
19:14 LemonLake this
19:15 LemonLake is
19:15 LemonLake not
19:15 LemonLake hentai
19:15 Ragnar_droid It starts with an introduction
19:15 Ragnar_droid Ktnxbye. Ingored LemonLake
19:16 LemonLake um
19:16 LemonLake what, just because i didn't draw hentai?
19:16 Ragnar_droid Yes
19:16 LemonLake mate
19:16 Ragnar_droid Now youre ignored
19:16 LemonLake you've got issues
19:16 Ragnar_droid I wont see your text anymore
19:17 LemonLake whatever
19:17 Ragnar_droid Krock
19:19 twoelk well if that child wasn't adopted this picture might be post hentai ;-) - by some years
19:19 LemonLake ushio is not adopted
19:19 Ragnar_droid Yeah.  This guy gets me
19:19 LemonLake um
19:19 LemonLake its based on an anime...
19:19 Ragnar_droid Yes he is
19:19 LemonLake get with it
19:19 Ragnar_droid Btw. I disignored u
19:19 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: you've got issues if you can't tell that ushio is a fucking 5 year old girl
19:19 LemonLake no, you never ignored me in the first place
19:20 Ragnar_droid I did
19:20 Ragnar_droid If i could screenshot it i would
19:20 LemonLake whatever
19:20 LemonLake like i care, pervert
19:20 Ragnar_droid Im 15 you moron
19:21 LemonLake mhm
19:21 Ragnar_droid How could i be a erv
19:21 LemonLake I'm 21.
19:21 Ragnar_droid Perv*
19:21 LemonLake mate
19:21 Krock TOPIC SWITCH
19:21 twoelk klick
19:21 LemonLake if all you can do is imagine cartoon characters having sex, you've got some issue
19:21 Ragnar_droid Krock.  +1
19:21 sfan5 uhh
19:22 sfan5 can we move offtopic to somewhere else please
19:22 LemonLake also, not sure 15 is an appropriate age to be looking at hentai
19:22 LemonLake sfan5: はい!
19:22 Ragnar_droid Lemon. Yoi remember Bloo fro Fosters home for imaginary friends?
19:22 sfan5 <sfan5> can we move offtopic to somewhere else please
19:22 PenguinDad Crack is hardcoded in minetest xD
19:22 * Calinou prones and deploys MG42…
19:22 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: stop now
19:22 sfan5 Calinou: y u no !op instead of /cs op ?
19:23 Calinou what's wrong with that
19:23 PenguinDad s/Crack is/Cracks are/
19:23 Ragnar_droid You stop telling me what i can and cant watch
19:23 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: move offtopic. now
19:23 VanessaE oh G*d, totally irritating character, Bloo.
19:23 VanessaE (I miss that cartoon.)
19:23 * sfan5 licks paw
19:23 Ragnar_droid Cheese was more irritating
19:23 LemonLake VanessaE: fosters was a great cartoon
19:23 Ragnar_droid I miss it too
19:24 Ragnar_droid But some a.hole made a sexual video out of it... Googe for Bloo Me
19:24 Ragnar_droid !g bloo me
19:24 MinetestBot Ragnar_droid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2AzpdrQIUU
19:24 Ragnar_droid was kicked by Calinou: Ragnar_droid
19:25 LemonLake jesus fuckin christ
19:25 LemonLake apple elegies people
19:25 LemonLake I believe I spiked that discussion
19:25 LemonLake kids, I advise you not click that link ;)
19:25 * Krock pushes a wet sponge in LemonLake's mouth
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19:25 * LemonLake eats it
19:25 Ragnar_droid Ok sorry...
19:26 Ragnar_droid LemonLakes img reminded me of stufff.... Sorry dood...
19:26 LemonLake I've finished it now
19:26 Ragnar_droid Great
19:26 LemonLake and I'd show you it but not sure I want to anymore
19:26 Ragnar_droid Can i give you an idea. Lemon.
19:26 * twoelk might be interested
19:27 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/CIWq_P8Angqi.png
19:27 Ragnar_droid Animate it
19:27 LemonLake there you go, complete
19:27 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: this has taken an entire week to make, not sure I want to.
19:27 LemonLake the actual anime is good enough as it is
19:27 sfan5 I just .. wtf
19:27 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1465
19:27 Ragnar_droid I know its HARD... ;D
19:27 sfan5 "Hand on right side only is discriminatory"
19:28 Krock sfan5, I knew it's my issue be4 clicking :)
19:28 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: really? have you tried actually drawing a simplistic vector based on an anime in your free time?
19:28 PenguinDad LemonLake: looks nice
19:28 LemonLake PenguinDad: thanks ^.^
19:28 Ragnar_droid Lemon im bad at drawing stick figures
19:28 twoelk LemonLake: sorta cute, I like the slight smirk on the guy's face
19:28 Ragnar_droid You are an artist
19:29 Ragnar_droid I was just messing with you earlier
19:29 Ragnar_droid Friends!
19:29 Ragnar_droid ?
19:29 LemonLake twoelk: it's not quite a smirk but I agree it is quite an interesting touch
19:29 Ragnar_droid Ffs... ! Is right next to ? On the android 2.2 keyboard
19:30 LemonLake with outlines his smiles make more sense
19:31 Ragnar_droid Lemon... Do you 4give me tho? Ihate enemies
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19:31 twoelk last thing I traced was a top view of an airbus for a control panel
19:32 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: that's difficult for me to do. welcome to the world of living with autism
19:32 twoelk haven't drawn people for ages
19:32 LemonLake an airbus?
19:32 LemonLake interesting
19:33 twoelk oops forgot I made a two page comic in a workshop at the con
19:33 twoelk well sketches rather
19:33 Calinou sfan5, a way to change wield item offset in general
19:33 LemonLake nice
19:33 LemonLake Calinou: rather change the position and flip it
19:34 LemonLake offsetting it would make things look a bit weird
19:34 Calinou achievement get! banned
19:35 twoelk information panel befor or after action?
19:36 hoodedice Calinou, what shoud I name that topic I was working on?
19:36 Calinou which topic
19:37 hoodedice "Minetest Infringement Policy"?
19:37 Calinou <Ragnar_droid> Lemon... Do you 4give me tho? Ihate enemies
19:37 Calinou oh, I have many enemies, come to me
19:37 hoodedice http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
19:37 LemonLake +Calinou
19:37 Calinou hoodedice, Forks?
19:37 hoodedice We already have a topic on forks
19:37 hoodedice This is actually oriented at infringement things
19:37 Calinou “Do not attempt to hack, grief, or crash their servers. They will try to file a lawsuit for hacking. ” → sorry, but griefing is not illegal
19:38 LemonLake ^
19:38 hoodedice Ik
19:38 hoodedice But still not a good idea
19:38 LemonLake i dont think crashing a server is actually
19:38 hoodedice (Plus I know they'll do it anywas haha)
19:38 hoodedice they - griefers
19:39 hoodedice btw, checked by celeron, says looks good
19:39 Calinou fixed
19:39 Calinou crashing a server may be
19:39 Calinou but no one has sued for crashing game servers, I believe
19:39 twoelk "In the past few days" might not be valid in some time.
19:40 Calinou ehm, have fun suing someone for that then
19:41 LemonLake what should I do for the background of the clannad piece?
19:41 LemonLake maybe the cherry trees
19:41 twoelk you might need to ad an "as of (insert date)" or not use a relative time statement
19:41 PenguinDad "If you think that a certain program is infringing on Minetest's LGPL 2.0" it's 2.1 hoodedice
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19:43 Jordach !c 1240/3
19:43 MinetestBot 413
19:43 hoodedice no one did, but that GM dude thretened a lawsuit
19:43 Krock !c 1240.0/3.0
19:43 MinetestBot 413.3333333333333
19:43 Jordach !c 1240/4
19:43 MinetestBot 310
19:43 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest with links to licenses
19:43 hoodedice Thanks twoelk
19:43 LemonLake has some dumbass mofo made an unauthorized port and then threatened a lawsuit on another unauthed/authed port?
19:44 LemonLake sounds like the sort of thing someone in this world would do
19:44 hoodedice Calinou: I think the NOT should be left in ALL CAPS (?)
19:44 Calinou no
19:44 Ragnar_droid Hoodedice... Is Freeminer a game INSPIRED by minetest or a minetest FORK?
19:44 Calinou it sounds like you're shouting and I do enough of that already
19:44 hoodedice Fork
19:44 Calinou a fork, Ragnar_droid
19:44 Ragnar_droid Ok
19:45 Ragnar_droid Do FM servers work with MT
19:46 Krock MT client -> FM server -> doesn't work
19:46 Krock FM client -> MT server -> should work
19:46 LemonLake because logic
19:46 Krock yes.
19:46 Krock backwards compatibility
19:46 Krock """backwards"""
19:47 LemonLake something mt and most of its forks do fairly well
19:47 twoelk look for free- in http://servers.minetest.net/ under version, example: road
19:47 Ragnar_droid Snd MT client -> MT server -> Will lag or Wont work
19:47 Ragnar_droid And*
19:47 LemonLake um
19:47 Calinou I can connect to Sky server with Minetest
19:47 LemonLake MT client -> MT server = DEFINITELY work....
19:48 Krock ^proofed many times
19:48 Calinou lol
19:48 Krock (in singleplayer)
19:48 LemonLake lol
19:48 Calinou proved
19:48 Ragnar_droid Depends: versions
19:48 Krock grammarnazi
19:48 LemonLake Most versions work with most servers.
19:48 LemonLake There'll just be noticable bugs in some cases.
19:49 hoodedice added links to license http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
19:49 Ragnar_droid DISCOnnected from server
19:49 Ragnar_droid Reason: lol
19:49 * twoelk will not bet on anything depending on good internet connections
19:49 * Krock wrote a skin preview generator some time ago.. maybe gonna extend it to zoom the textures in
19:50 PenguinDad Minetest 0.4.10 still works with headcrabs server
19:50 hoodedice *red
19:50 Krock *greencrabs
19:50 PenguinDad *redcrab
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19:50 Calinou that server should never ever be played on; it's ridiculously outdated and the admin is gone nowhere
19:50 Krock does it have backups?
19:50 Krock cuz online 24/7
19:51 Ragnar_droid MT version 0.3.0
19:51 EvergreenTree Krock: no, sadly
19:51 Ragnar_droid XD
19:51 EvergreenTree it really is a piece of minetest history
19:51 Krock YES
19:51 * twoelk hides his old outdated costumized clients
19:51 Ragnar_droid Hi neverblue
19:51 EvergreenTree the mods are so outdated it would be impossible (nearly) to update it to a new version
19:51 * Krock gives twoelk src/light.cpp
19:52 proller twoelk, ~2000 reached on four circles ;)
19:52 Krock EvergreenTree, wut? they should work
19:52 Calinou debug light table is cool
19:52 Ragnar_droid Hey neveryellowbush
19:52 EvergreenTree Krock: no, minetest 0.4.10 does work with redcrad
19:52 EvergreenTree *crab
19:52 twoelk oh, juste camped on +1020 or so
19:52 Krock EvergreenTree, ehm. I never said it otherwise :3
19:53 EvergreenTree I just said if he updated everything, there would be unknown nodes everywhere
19:53 EvergreenTree so much aliasing would be needed
19:53 EvergreenTree and abms
19:53 EvergreenTree especially with the several wool mods installed on there
19:53 Calinou the crappy torches
19:53 Krock EvergreenTree, copy bin and builtin folder -> done! :)
19:54 Krock no needs for updating the mods
19:54 Krock and maybe some texture replacing
19:54 Krock more isn't required
19:54 EvergreenTree well, in 0.4.10 a certain wool color doesn't show
19:54 EvergreenTree and looks like an unknown node in later versions
19:55 EvergreenTree I use 0.4.5 on redcrab
19:55 EvergreenTree so I don't see the unknown nodes
19:55 Krock maybe it needs to be in the texture pack because the server misses that texture
19:55 EvergreenTree possibly
19:55 EvergreenTree we just need to get redcrab to give us the copy of minetest he is using on the server
19:55 EvergreenTree or even jsut the mods and the world
19:56 Krock the world...
19:56 Ragnar_droid Ask god
19:56 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DBGHem-GS9hg.png Opinions?
19:56 EvergreenTree the world that is used on redcrab.  :P
19:56 Krock what was the last known file size 1GB?
19:56 Ragnar_droid If hes having a good day... You then just might get The World
19:56 Krock I guess, it wasmore
19:56 EvergreenTree where on earth would he upload it though
19:57 VanessaE LemonLake: it's looking good.   needs more contour/shadowing around the guy's mouth
19:57 Krock LemonLake, erase it and draw some 16-color smile
19:57 LemonLake VanessaE: okay, I'll try that
19:57 LemonLake Krock: 16 color smile?
19:57 Ragnar_droid Lemoncake... Looks like fiiiiinnneeee henta.... Wait... Nope... Looks good... Thats it
19:58 Krock LemonLake, you don't know the 16-color images?????where you only have 16 diffrent colors
19:58 LemonLake Oh, yes I know those
19:58 LemonLake Nah.
19:58 Krock so, youneed black, white and yellow
19:58 Krock 5x5 px sould be enough
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19:58 Krock </troll>
19:58 Ragnar_droid Hi artur
19:59 artur99 hi
19:59 Ragnar_droid Dood
19:59 artur99 hey, whats up? :D
19:59 Ragnar_droid I missed u bruh
19:59 artur99 :)
19:59 Ragnar_droid :'O
19:59 PenguinDad Krock: 4×4 px is already enough :P
19:59 artur99 when u said ull get home?
19:59 Ragnar_droid How bout 2x16
19:59 LemonLake u kiddin me
19:59 Ragnar_droid The 27. july
20:00 artur99 hmm 28 days :D
20:00 AnotherBrick 2x3 is minimum for expressing smile
20:00 Ragnar_droid Well be here a bit longer
20:00 LemonLake VanessaE: How is this? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/MSR9Cb3sPq5I.png
20:00 Ragnar_droid I know... I hate it
20:00 Ragnar_droid I wanna go home
20:00 hoodedice dun http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest_Licensing
20:01 Ragnar_droid Dat smile tho
20:01 Jordach !c 1754/2
20:01 MinetestBot 877
20:01 hoodedice artur99, Ragnar_droid, this is a public chat room, use query for private chats
20:01 artur99 :))) k
20:01 Ragnar_droid !c 10:0
20:01 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:01 Ragnar_droid XD
20:01 Ragnar_droid Oh...
20:01 hoodedice : is a character
20:02 Ragnar_droid !c 10/0
20:02 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero
20:02 PenguinDad !c 16^3
20:02 MinetestBot 19
20:02 Jordach !c 1754/3
20:02 MinetestBot 584
20:02 EvergreenTree stop using MinetestBot in this chat
20:02 hoodedice Guys, please use ##minetestbot for your bot spamming needs
20:02 LemonLake ^
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20:02 EvergreenTree ^
20:02 Krock PenguinDad, http://i.imgur.com/5CBCkcM.png
20:02 VanessaE LemonLake: much better.
20:02 VanessaE just that thin bit of something you added defines the mouth better.
20:03 VanessaE LemonLake: next, try to adjust the nose shading, it ...doesn't quite work right
20:03 Krock omg. my smiley has no nose
20:03 * Jordach should be banned from Gimp
20:04 EvergreenTree And why might that be?
20:04 * Krock takes away gimp and puts PDN on its place
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20:04 Calinou PDN sucks
20:04 LemonLake +Krock
20:04 LemonLake PDN is actually alright.
20:04 Krock -Calinou
20:04 EvergreenTree Gimp is better
20:04 LemonLake But Gimp beats it any day.
20:04 Jordach i'd rather use shitty PDF
20:04 PenguinDad --Krock
20:04 artur99 ಠ_ಠ
20:04 Calinou PDN is proprietary and Windows-only
20:04 LemonLake ^
20:04 EvergreenTree Gimp is open source and cross platform
20:05 grrk-bzzt "PDN" ?
20:05 LemonLake ^
20:05 LemonLake PDN = Paint.NET
20:05 Krock PenguinDad, --Krock makes no change, you need to use Krock--;
20:05 grrk-bzzt Oh OK
20:05 LemonLake Krock: --Krock also works.
20:05 grrk-bzzt Paint.NET is neat but yeah, it's proprietary and Windows only
20:05 Krock LemonLake, but it just decreases it by 1 in the current use but doesn't change the actual value
20:05 grrk-bzzt Otherwise, the interface is much better than GIMP
20:05 Calinou GIMP's is good enough
20:05 Calinou learn to use it
20:05 EvergreenTree Gimp's interface is fine
20:06 grrk-bzzt At least for everyday people who need straightforward things
20:06 EvergreenTree once you learn to use it
20:06 LemonLake Gimps interface could be better
20:06 * Krock raged last time using gimp
20:06 Calinou improve it then
20:06 LemonLake And it doesn't work on mac all the time, but who uses mac
20:06 EvergreenTree Yes, it could
20:06 Calinou it doesn't improve by itself
20:06 grrk-bzzt [22:06:06] <EvergreenTree> once you learn to use it
20:06 Calinou same for Minetest
20:06 EvergreenTree but it works fine
20:06 LemonLake ^
20:06 Calinou LemonLake, works on OS X here, when I use OS X
20:06 grrk-bzzt That's the point EvergreenTree
20:06 Calinou it even has a dark background!
20:06 LemonLake Strange.
20:06 EvergreenTree grrk-bzzt: try using blender
20:06 Calinou to look professional
20:06 EvergreenTree :3
20:06 LemonLake +EvergreenTree
20:06 Calinou <grrk-bzzt> At least for everyday people who need straightforward things
20:06 grrk-bzzt EvergreenTree, I am, Blender isn't straight forward
20:06 Calinou there probably are simpler tools for them
20:06 EvergreenTree right
20:07 grrk-bzzt Paint.NET is already simple
20:07 PenguinDad I can't work with PDN's crappy interface
20:07 grrk-bzzt Otherwise use paint.exe lol
20:07 EvergreenTree use libreoffice draw if you really need simple tools
20:07 LemonLake I hate the beta interface.
20:07 LemonLake The 3.5 one is great, tho
20:07 grrk-bzzt lmao LibreOffice Draw
20:07 Krock <3 <3 http://andrew.hedges.name/experiments/brainf_cker/ <3 <3 <3 <3
20:07 LemonLake Anonymous asked a question
20:07 LemonLake please follow my twitter at @twitter
20:07 EvergreenTree you said simple
20:07 * LemonLake kills self
20:08 grrk-bzzt As far as I remember, LibreOffice Draw is just shit
20:08 grrk-bzzt I'll give it a try, hand on
20:08 Jordach hoodedice, EvergreenTree here's yer A4 cover  https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qBeiDuR71Rd_.png
20:08 grrk-bzzt s/hand/hang
20:09 EvergreenTree Jordach: I could easily to that
20:09 EvergreenTree it does look nice as a manual cover though
20:09 grrk-bzzt Just what I thought, LibreOffice Draw have nothing in common with Gimp and PDN
20:09 EvergreenTree no, it doesn't
20:10 grrk-bzzt And it's just for… I dunno
20:10 EvergreenTree Are there any simple open source image editing programs?
20:10 EvergreenTree There's aseprite, but it's not simple
20:10 grrk-bzzt I really don't know why someone would use LibreOffice Draw
20:10 EvergreenTree (not really)
20:10 grrk-bzzt Wasn't Pinta meant to be a PDN clone for GNU/Linux ?
20:10 EvergreenTree if you want something edititable that can be used in another libreoffice doc
20:11 EvergreenTree there is also krita
20:11 EvergreenTree but it isn't much better then gimp interface wise
20:11 grrk-bzzt Krita is awesome
20:11 EvergreenTree I tried using krita
20:11 EvergreenTree it is pretty good
20:11 grrk-bzzt I've tried it two days ago with the Wacom tablet I've bought, it's fantastic
20:11 EvergreenTree seems like it's aimed at painting more than anything else
20:11 EvergreenTree and drawing
20:11 grrk-bzzt ^
20:11 grrk-bzzt Exactly, painting and drawing
20:12 EvergreenTree not really so great for photo manipulation
20:12 EvergreenTree if I were an artist, it would be great for me
20:12 Calinou >Wacom tablet
20:12 Calinou lol
20:12 hoodedice what''s so lol about that
20:12 grrk-bzzt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinta_(software)
20:12 EvergreenTree but then again, I would be on a mac if I were an artist
20:12 EvergreenTree :P
20:13 grrk-bzzt Calinou, to be honest, I don't get what you are pointing here
20:13 grrk-bzzt EvergreenTree, or you would use KDE and Krita
20:13 grrk-bzzt :P
20:13 EvergreenTree I use kde
20:13 EvergreenTree just not krita
20:13 grrk-bzzt There you go
20:13 grrk-bzzt WM BATTLLLEEEE!!!
20:14 grrk-bzzt KDE SUCKS
20:14 grrk-bzzt Sorry about that
20:14 EvergreenTree YOU SUCK
20:14 EvergreenTree lol
20:14 grrk-bzzt I had 5sec of fun
20:14 EvergreenTree let's not start that
20:14 grrk-bzzt Can't wait for the text editor war
20:14 EvergreenTree GEANY FTW!!1!
20:14 PenguinDad EvergreenTree++
20:14 Krock eeh. the german wikipedia has a Minetest site, the english not.
20:14 grrk-bzzt GUI SUXXXX
20:15 grrk-bzzt cat > file
20:15 grrk-bzzt Ctrl+D when you're done writing
20:15 Krock !c 'cat' > 'file'
20:15 MinetestBot False
20:15 grrk-bzzt lol
20:15 EvergreenTree <3 MinetestBot
20:15 MinetestBot <3 EvergreenTree
20:15 EvergreenTree grrk-bzzt: if you don't like gui's use vim
20:16 grrk-bzzt I would if I wasn't already using emacs
20:16 EvergreenTree ^ or emacs
20:16 EvergreenTree :p
20:16 grrk-bzzt :)
20:16 grrk-bzzt I admit the keyboard shortcuts of emacs sucks ballz
20:16 grrk-bzzt Like…
20:17 grrk-bzzt Yeah whatever
20:17 EvergreenTree gedit and kate are what I use generally
20:17 grrk-bzzt At least the macros are a lot of fun to use
20:17 EvergreenTree but geany for coding
20:17 EvergreenTree grrk-bzzt: true
20:17 * Krock inserts grrk-bzzt into google translator and searchs the "speak" button
20:17 grrk-bzzt wat?
20:18 EvergreenTree He wants to know how google would say your nick
20:18 EvergreenTree :P
20:18 Krock jukebox
20:18 grrk-bzzt Oh alright
20:18 grrk-bzzt It's an Internet nick, it's only pronouncable on the Internet
20:18 grrk-bzzt Like "Hello grrk-bzzt"
20:18 grrk-bzzt or "Wow, well said grrk-bzzt"
20:19 EvergreenTree I would say it "girk bzt"
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20:19 Krock I would it say it like "grrkbzzt"
20:19 grrk-bzzt haha
20:20 EvergreenTree reminds me of that old argument on how to say mese
20:20 EvergreenTree I just say "mehseh"
20:21 EvergreenTree but that's just my personal preference
20:21 Krock I say "mese"
20:21 Jordach me-ease
20:21 Calinou me-ze
20:21 Calinou “mésé” in French
20:21 Calinou I read it like you would pronounce it in French
20:21 Jordach easy mese lemon squeezy
20:21 Calinou I took that habit since I started playing Minetest
20:22 PenguinDad Mese is italian for month :D
20:23 Calinou maybe in Spanish too
20:23 VanessaE mese, rhymes with geese.  simple enough.
20:23 EvergreenTree VanessaE: I say it like it's spanish
20:24 EvergreenTree The vowels in spanish sound like "ah, eh, ea, oh, oo"
20:24 PenguinDad I pronounce it like Jordach does
20:24 artur99 Francais? multi-language? :D
20:24 Jordach PenguinDad, i lead into ease
20:25 * Krock "speaks" 3 languages
20:25 * sfan5 throws Lua at Krock
20:25 LemonLake ^
20:25 LemonLake ninja'd
20:26 LemonLake http://lemoncreativity.deviantart.com/art/O​kazaki-Family-Clannad-After-Story-466846636
20:26 LemonLake it has been done
20:26 Krock somewhat.equals(language, programming_language) -> false
20:26 artur99 Vreun român pe aicia? :))
20:26 Calinou minetest.equals("Krock", minetest.get_modpath("krock_mod")) -> tralse
20:26 Krock > tralse
20:26 LemonLake >tralse
20:26 LemonLake u wot
20:27 Krock ninja'd
20:27 PenguinDad !c "programming_language" > "language"
20:27 MinetestBot True
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20:27 Ragnar_droid Hi
20:27 artur99 hi
20:27 VanessaE bbl
20:28 Ragnar_droid Bye vaness
20:28 LemonLake さようなら
20:28 artur99 西班牙人
20:28 Ragnar_droid Lem... Show me ur work
20:29 LemonLake Ragnar_droid: I just did.
20:29 Ragnar_droid I just got back
20:29 LemonLake http://lemoncreativity.deviantart.com/ar​t/Okazaki-Family-Clannad-After-Story-466​846636?ga_submit_new=10%253A1404937543
20:30 * Jordach waves at LemonLake
20:30 * sfan5 waves at Jordach
20:30 LemonLake Hi, Jordach
20:30 Ragnar_droid Hi sfan and jord
20:31 Jordach press that messages button ;3
20:31 LemonLake whoa
20:31 LemonLake you fuckin spammed me mate
20:31 LemonLake '4'
20:31 LemonLake aww thanks, now i have two llama badges :P
20:31 artur99 !seen OldCoder
20:31 MinetestBot artur99: oldcoder was last seen at 2014-07-08 23:24:12 UTC on #minetest
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20:33 * Krock can't remember the keys of Fast, fLy and noClip - gives them an useful key
20:34 LemonLake h k and l iirc
20:34 Krock wut?
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20:34 EvergreenTree e is fast by default
20:34 EvergreenTree but I switched it to f
20:35 webdesigner97 hello :)
20:35 EvergreenTree and switche inventory to e
20:35 EvergreenTree Hi web
20:35 Ragnar_droid Hey shan5
20:35 Krock but... W is near to E..
20:35 Ragnar_droid Sfan
20:35 sfan5 https://plot.ly/~FloatingGhost​/0/average-time-until-hitler/
20:35 sfan5 wat
20:36 LemonLake um.
20:36 Ragnar_droid I heard i could edit the alpha channel of textures in lua
20:37 Ragnar_droid But how
20:37 * Krock throws doc/lua_api.txt at Ragnar_droid
20:37 Ragnar_droid I know that saturation was something like "texture.png^[sat50"
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20:38 Ragnar_droid Is that correcr
20:38 Ragnar_droid Correct
20:38 sfan5 maybe
20:38 Ragnar_droid Cmon dood
20:38 Ragnar_droid That would solve my problem
20:39 * Krock slaps Ragnar_droid with minetest dev wiki
20:39 Ragnar_droid Stahp
20:39 EvergreenTree Ragnar_droid: there is a page about that
20:39 LemonLake http://dev.minetest.net/texture
20:39 EvergreenTree ^
20:40 LemonLake there is brighten, noalpha and makealpha
20:40 EvergreenTree there isn't saturation
20:40 LemonLake ^
20:40 Krock ^
20:41 artur99 ^
20:41 LemonLake >
20:41 Krock ^^
20:42 hoodedice Ragnar
20:42 hoodedice Do you not know how to edit a texture?
20:42 LemonLake ^
20:42 Krock ^
20:42 LemonLake just change the sat yourself
20:42 LemonLake or alpha channel
20:42 EvergreenTree >>>>>>>>^
20:43 artur99 ⇕⇕⇕⇕⇕⇕
20:43 Krock ?
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20:44 LemonLake →→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→^
20:45 artur99 anyone tested http://www.guhat.com until now? It really works?
20:45 Krock bplaced.com
20:46 hoodedice Can someone close this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463  We already have this feature
20:46 Krock #minetest-dev
20:47 LemonLake just jump in like "fuck you guys do this shit"
20:47 Krock artur99, no serious hoster can do it for free
20:47 LemonLake ^
20:47 Krock servers cost money
20:48 artur99 :D no I need VPS... I already have premium hosting
20:48 artur99 www.noendhost.com
20:48 Krock so, chose one, which is based on AD or donations
20:48 Krock "99,99% Server Uptime"
20:48 Krock not good enough
20:48 PenguinDad AD == Amazing Donuts :P
20:50 artur99 :))
20:50 artur99 i never saw it off
20:50 artur99 :D
20:51 artur99 and i've got it for free
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20:51 Krock artur99, http://imgur.com/H3kePpf
20:51 artur99 I mean I worked a few hours for the owner, and he gave me a free acc
20:52 artur99 yeah... it's the man i worked with
20:52 artur99 :)))
20:52 Krock ehm. okay
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21:06 artur99 anyone knowing a marketplace like codecanyon.com?
21:06 artur99 but well populated?
21:08 LemonLake http://i.imgur.com/UA4zfQb.jpg
21:08 LemonLake Caption: "After brain surgery my boyfriend couldn't think of the right names for things"
21:14 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, topics in "News" section should be sorted by topic creation date, not last post
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21:19 thefamilygrog66 Howdy folks
21:20 thefamilygrog66 Is this normal for 0.4.10-dev? http://i.imgur.com/dFkRCdh.png
21:21 PenguinDad thefamilygrog66: are you using standard minetest_game?
21:22 thefamilygrog66 Yes, PenguinDad - I just compiled it earlier today.
21:22 thefamilygrog66 It's just that I've never seem them in the sky before...
21:23 RealBadAngel thefamilygrog66, youre just lucky
21:23 thefamilygrog66 Apparently!
21:24 EvergreenTree thefamilygrog66: You are so lucky
21:24 EvergreenTree Yes, it is normal, just extremely rare
21:24 EvergreenTree they do seem more common if you use singlenode though
21:24 EvergreenTree :P
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21:25 thefamilygrog66 Weird, I'll have to make note of the world's seed...
21:25 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, no, its a bug; your graphics card is probably broken
21:27 thefamilygrog66 KHHAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!
21:27 WindHero That reminds me of the nyancat heaven mod I once saw...
21:27 thefamilygrog66 So, where do they hide the seed now? It doesn't show when I do a /status
21:28 PenguinDad thefamilygrog66: press F5
21:28 thefamilygrog66 Haha, me lose brain? Uh oh.
21:28 thefamilygrog66 Thanks, PenguinDad.
21:29 thefamilygrog66 seed = 8267793110244542983
21:30 thefamilygrog66 coords: 341, 20, 25)
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21:58 hoodedice Hai RBA
22:04 hoodedice I am a bad person, and I should feel bad: http://imgur.com/J2kVJgT
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22:13 OldCoder Yo
22:13 OldCoder Who rang?
22:13 OldCoder artur99 I C
22:14 RealBadAngel hoodedice, LOL
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22:15 RealBadAngel send her that: http://i1.kwejk.pl/site_media/obrazki/2012/01/8​9ec3adae24e8a3394065361258f6f5e.jpg?1325501897
22:16 RealBadAngel "When cat is afraid of a mouse"
22:17 RealBadAngel then youre gonna be bad to the bone ;)
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22:24 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur​e=player_embedded&amp;v=zNbpnphtesQ :D
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22:28 Jordach ello Zeno`
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22:56 Jordach ello WindHero
22:56 WindHero hi Jordach
22:56 WindHero how goes it?
22:56 Jordach fine
22:58 WindHero Hi Zeno`
22:58 Zeno` hi Jordach and WindHero
22:58 WindHero Slight bit of news...
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22:59 WindHero my absence from CaveRealms development has been for a reason
22:59 WindHero I'm cooking up a couple new ideas for SkyLands/Test :D
22:59 Zeno` nice :)
23:00 WindHero Heaven islands!
23:00 WindHero very high up
23:00 WindHero brb
23:00 Zeno` but... but... but... Heaven Caves?
23:01 Zeno` It's (caverealms) been running for over a week on my server now with no problems
23:01 Zeno` None that I've noticed anyway :)
23:04 WindHero back
23:04 WindHero ROFL
23:05 WindHero I really don't think heaven and caves go well together
23:05 WindHero I have some plans for caverealms too, dw
23:05 WindHero I've also been upkeeping my friend's server, so that's been eating up time
23:06 WindHero mostly, he asked me to dig a path down to caverealms :P
23:06 Zeno` Heal Caves
23:06 Zeno` Hell*
23:07 Zeno` I'm thinking of adding paramat's fissures, actually
23:07 Zeno` (talking about digging down to the caverealms)
23:07 WindHero that might work
23:07 WindHero and more like Nether caves
23:07 WindHero or maybe Nilfheim
23:08 Zeno` I'm reluctant to add toooo much mapgen stuff though
23:08 Zeno` on the server anyway
23:08 WindHero that would give me an excuse for red glow crystals
23:08 Zeno` red are definitely needed ;p
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23:09 Zeno` once there are RGB, it opens up the more possibilities for more ore (or ore derivative products) crafts as well
23:09 Zeno` I've been away for 3 days so haven't really done anything at all
23:10 WindHero yeah, I've been fighting a tad bit of motivation problems
23:10 WindHero I just don't want to burn myself out on CR dev
23:11 Zeno` fairy nuff I say
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23:18 WindHero Actually
23:19 WindHero no, I don't want to make a biome that has anything to do with hell
23:19 WindHero Instead
23:19 WindHero I can make something visually similar
23:19 WindHero but have it be the Dungeon Master's Keep
23:19 Zeno` just need red crystals heh
23:19 WindHero yup
23:19 Zeno` and some skull scattered around the place
23:19 WindHero I really want to make that awesomesauce biome with the ginormous crystals
23:20 Zeno` glow skulls rofl
23:20 WindHero but I'm not ready yet
23:20 WindHero ROFL
23:20 WindHero Maybe I could have an optional dependency on BlockMen's old bone mod
23:20 Zeno` no
23:20 WindHero and have the skulls craftable into bonemeal
23:20 Zeno` I hate bones
23:20 Zeno` yucky
23:20 WindHero :(
23:21 WindHero I like insta-grow trees tho
23:21 Zeno` make it configurable then hehe
23:21 WindHero alright, on my friend's server I'm 250 nodes down
23:21 WindHero 450+ to go....
23:22 WindHero like I said, _optional_
23:23 Zeno` Err on my server caverealms don't start until -6000 heh
23:23 Zeno` if *I* mined to -6000 (and properly, not stupid 1x1 shafts) then others can :D
23:23 Zeno` pity I keep teleporting people to them so they can look
23:23 Zeno` oh well
23:24 WindHero lolol
23:24 WindHero yeah, I'm making a 3x4 tunnel down
23:25 WindHero thankfully haven't hit any lava
23:25 WindHero I also did a large portion of it with bettertnt
23:25 WindHero gonna set up minecarts up and down
23:32 Zeno` make basecamps like I do hehe
23:33 WindHero perhaps
23:33 WindHero currently it's mostly an expressway
23:33 WindHero with regular rails going down
23:33 WindHero and HolyPhoenix's special "Speed Rails" going up
23:34 WindHero (which basically are 4x as fast as power rails)
23:34 Zeno` ohh, nice
23:35 WindHero it's taking forever and a day to get there with my terrible lag though
23:36 Zeno` gotta hate that
23:37 Zeno` is it lag or mapgen stalling? :p
23:37 WindHero 3G, sometimes 4G wifi connection brought to you by Verizon Wireless
23:37 * WindHero stabs himself
23:37 WindHero it's lag
23:37 Zeno` umm, yes that would do it
23:37 WindHero mostly from Lava ABMs
23:37 WindHero on the surface I rarely get terrible lag
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