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Jordach |
TIL Dropbox uses the Hylian Shield for Privacy and Security |
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Nerotic |
Hey |
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Nerotic |
stuff |
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WindHero |
Hi Zeno` |
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Zeno` |
hi HOTW |
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Zeno` |
what's new? |
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WindHero |
failure :P |
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WindHero |
wow, I just made 3 post reports |
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WindHero |
I rarely get even 1 before someone else reports them |
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WindHero |
I went off the deep end |
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WindHero |
I made a dev branch |
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* Zeno` |
gasps |
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WindHero_ |
looking at the logs |
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WindHero_ |
what a strange time to get booted |
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WindHero |
trying something strange: overlaying and averaging two noises for caves |
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WindHero |
basing it on paramat's subterrain |
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WindHero |
trying to make the terrain wavy-er |
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WindHero |
https://mediacru.sh/d6HGXNy-hAfG |
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WindHero |
test to determine where floors and walls are through simple code |
| 03:52 |
WindHero |
Successful roof/floor detection: https://mediacru.sh/1fhJxBBr2h6f |
| 03:52 |
WindHero |
with unlimited cave size |
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Zeno` |
nice! |
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Megaf_ |
Timing O_DIRECT cached reads: 2214 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1107.06 MB/sec |
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Megaf_ |
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 2904 MB in 3.00 seconds = 967.70 MB/sec |
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Megaf_ |
:) |
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Megaf_ |
# hdparm -Tt --direct /dev/sda |
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Megaf_ |
little better now |
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Megaf_ |
Timing O_DIRECT cached reads: 2266 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1133.46 MB/sec |
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Megaf_ |
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 3186 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1061.53 MB/sec |
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LemonLake |
If I only put a single flag in replace_builtin, will it keep the non-changed the same? |
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LemonLake |
Ohh crap...errorless crashes have returned |
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Venus_ |
Hey! Anyone around who knows how to install the client in order to play on Vanessas Survival Server? I need some help, please. |
| 08:38 |
kaeza |
which OS? |
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Venus_ |
Oh sry, I´m using windows 7 ultimate |
| 08:42 |
Venus_ |
The problem is, that it won´t load all mods. I keep getting an error for the moreblocks mod |
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kaeza |
go to the `Minetest\bin' folder, and you'll see a file named "debug.txt" (or simply "debug"). Copy the last ~20 lines or so, paste them on http://pastie.org and post the link here |
| 08:49 |
Venus_ |
ok, there it is: http://pastie.org/9346223 |
| 08:51 |
kaeza |
>attempt to call field 'override_item' (a nil value) |
| 08:52 |
kaeza |
you'll need to update to latest -dev version |
| 08:52 |
kaeza |
hold on |
| 08:52 |
Venus_ |
sure, thank you very much :) |
| 08:53 |
kaeza |
try this package: http://sfan5.pf-control.de/minetest-builds/minetest/minetest-0.4.9-13517fb-win32.7z |
| 08:53 |
Calinou |
<Venus_> Oh sry, I´m using windows 7 ultimate |
| 08:53 |
Calinou |
seems legit ;) |
| 08:53 |
Venus_ |
:P |
| 08:54 |
Calinou |
<kaeza> >attempt to call field 'override_item' (a nil value) |
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kaeza |
mornings Calinou |
| 08:54 |
Calinou |
it's called to fix lighting on some default blocks, the fallback was removed |
| 08:55 |
Calinou |
a dev build has tons of additional features, so get one |
| 08:55 |
Calinou |
it's not like we're in a shortage of them |
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Venus_ |
hehe, yeah, checked the github and read the thread Vanessa posted, but I could´nt sort it out by myself ;) |
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kaeza |
aaaaanyway, /me is off --> |
| 08:59 |
kaeza |
night :) |
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Venus_ |
Ok, that seems to work without any problems, thanks again! :) |
| 09:07 |
Calinou |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LuDBKPYa6UsU.jpg |
| 09:07 |
Calinou |
naturally generated |
| 09:08 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4326&p=146579#p146579 → mhm, I did like 6 months ago. |
| 09:08 |
Calinou |
(-: |
| 09:10 |
Venus_ |
huh? |
| 09:12 |
Calinou |
they're complaining about people quitting Minecraft for Minetest |
| 09:16 |
Venus_ |
well, uhm, I´m kinda going to do that myself. I´m quiet active playing minecraft, but the servers aren´t stale enough to handle all the mods I like |
| 09:16 |
Venus_ |
stale=stable |
| 09:21 |
Calinou |
the problem with Minecraft mods is that they break all the time |
| 09:21 |
Calinou |
and you have to install them client-side too |
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VenusMorbidae |
ok, back with the correct nametag now aaaaand another problem... |
| 09:31 |
VenusMorbidae |
Mods get loaded now, so I can play if I want to, but each time I try to enlarge the window (in order to play fullscreen) the window just wents white and nothing happens. Any idea whats wrong? |
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Amaz |
Zeno`, are you here? |
| 09:35 |
Zeno` |
I am |
| 09:36 |
Amaz |
I saw your work for caverealms and hdx and it looks really nice! |
| 09:37 |
Zeno` |
Thank you. It was (and is) a collaborative effort. WindHero has done most of the code (I added some optimisations), I've done most of the textures (VannessaE fixed some and added others) |
| 09:38 |
* RealBadAngel |
wonders if there could pop up ANY artist that would make use of bumpmaps and heightmaps... |
| 09:38 |
Amaz |
And I was wondering if you would be able/want to add support for https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5578 to hdx... |
| 09:39 |
Zeno` |
wow |
| 09:39 |
Zeno` |
big mod :) |
| 09:40 |
Zeno` |
or is it a whole game? |
| 09:40 |
Amaz |
Whole game. |
| 09:40 |
Zeno` |
So many textures :( |
| 09:41 |
Amaz |
yep... |
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| 09:42 |
Zeno` |
really good work |
| 09:42 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueQg18t1qyE |
| 09:42 |
Amaz |
Not just mine, as you should be able to see! Thanks though :) |
| 09:42 |
Zeno` |
I don't think I'm good enough to create all those textures :( |
| 09:42 |
Amaz |
Okay then. |
| 09:43 |
RealBadAngel |
please do something in THIS direction |
| 09:43 |
RealBadAngel |
you have been given tools |
| 09:44 |
Zeno` |
what tools? |
| 09:44 |
Zeno` |
Amaz, I can help but that is far too much for one person to do alone |
| 09:45 |
Amaz |
Yeah... |
| 09:45 |
RealBadAngel |
in order to nail a nail, you need a hammer |
| 09:45 |
RealBadAngel |
hammer is here |
| 09:45 |
Amaz |
Unfortunately, I'm away for two weeks. |
| 09:45 |
RealBadAngel |
but you guys seems to be out of nails simply |
| 09:45 |
Zeno` |
RBA, what tools? |
| 09:45 |
Zeno` |
where is the hammer? |
| 09:45 |
Amaz |
How is bumpmapping used. |
| 09:45 |
Amaz |
? |
| 09:46 |
RealBadAngel |
bumpmapping and parallax occlusion is a feature that needs textures |
| 09:46 |
Amaz |
Yep. |
| 09:46 |
RealBadAngel |
so make them |
| 09:46 |
RealBadAngel |
and use the fucking hammer |
| 09:46 |
Zeno` |
where is the fucking hammer? |
| 09:46 |
Amaz |
I understand that... But what is bumpmapping supposed to do? |
| 09:46 |
Amaz |
+Zeno` |
| 09:47 |
RealBadAngel |
in code? :) |
| 09:47 |
RealBadAngel |
it just lacks of your "nails" |
| 09:47 |
RealBadAngel |
the textures |
| 09:47 |
Zeno` |
huh |
| 09:47 |
Zeno` |
this is more vague than the API documentation |
| 09:48 |
RealBadAngel |
im pretty sick folks sayin that other games do look better |
| 09:48 |
Zeno` |
don't speak in analogies, say it straight :p |
| 09:48 |
RealBadAngel |
while mt can look way better but tp creators just dont use the features i coded |
| 09:49 |
Zeno` |
maybe nobody knows what those features are! |
| 09:49 |
Amaz |
How is bumpmapping supposed to be used? |
| 09:49 |
Amaz |
That's what I want to know... |
| 09:49 |
RealBadAngel |
make a normal map, for default_stone.png lets say |
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| 09:49 |
RealBadAngel |
call it default_stone_normal.png |
| 09:49 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
| 09:49 |
RealBadAngel |
and put it in tp |
| 09:50 |
Zeno` |
hdx has normalmaps (for 512px) but then you look at the MT docs and it (basically) says "meh, don't worry about it" |
| 09:50 |
RealBadAngel |
hold on a sec |
| 09:50 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/HavenNG/tree/master/256x |
| 09:51 |
RealBadAngel |
give this TP a try |
| 09:51 |
Amaz |
Okay! |
| 09:51 |
RealBadAngel |
especially Bricks |
| 09:51 |
RealBadAngel |
turn on bumpmapping and parallax |
| 09:51 |
Zeno` |
fix the docs |
| 09:52 |
Zeno` |
because the docs, as they are at the moment, elude to or suggest that normalmaps are deprecated |
| 09:53 |
Amaz |
How big is that tp?! |
| 09:53 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, i will take a look on that |
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RealBadAngel |
Amaz, 40mb? |
| 09:53 |
RealBadAngel |
circa |
| 09:54 |
Amaz |
Wow. |
| 09:54 |
RealBadAngel |
its not complete though |
| 09:54 |
Amaz |
Right! |
| 09:54 |
RealBadAngel |
its kinda proof of the concept |
| 09:54 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 09:54 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
| 09:55 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont have time to manage it |
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| 09:55 |
RealBadAngel |
if some1 would pick it up, i would be thankful |
| 09:55 |
VanessaE |
HDX normalmaps are not distributed with HDX because the repo would be too big for Github's declared limits. |
| 09:55 |
Zeno` |
do even the default textures have normalmaps? |
| 09:56 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 09:56 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-normalmaps-512 |
| 09:56 |
Zeno` |
no, not yours VanessaE :) |
| 09:56 |
Zeno` |
I know yours do |
| 09:56 |
VanessaE |
oh heh :) |
| 09:56 |
VanessaE |
oh literally defaults. no, they do not. |
| 09:57 |
Zeno` |
no, so in combination with the docs and the lack of them in the default game they "appear" to be deprecated |
| 09:57 |
Zeno` |
the docs suggest that they're not needed anymore because they're "generated on the fly" |
| 09:57 |
Zeno` |
and they look... dumb |
| 09:58 |
Zeno` |
I agree with RBA on that point heh |
| 09:58 |
RealBadAngel |
generating on the fly is an attempt to provide that feature while no one around cares |
| 09:59 |
Zeno` |
RealBadAngel, I understand that |
| 09:59 |
RealBadAngel |
and nothing generated would look so great as pre made ones |
| 09:59 |
Zeno` |
Personally I agree with you |
| 09:59 |
Zeno` |
I agree 100% |
| 09:59 |
Zeno` |
but the docs suggest that there is no point in spending the time creating them |
| 10:00 |
Amaz |
I don't see much difference between with bumpmaps and without.... |
| 10:01 |
Zeno` |
Amaz, that's because the default textures don't actually have normalmaps for the bumpmapping to work with. They look pretty much the same to me as well |
| 10:01 |
Zeno` |
So I turned that off figuring that it does... nothing |
| 10:02 |
RealBadAngel |
Amaz, please try to tell what can u see on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueQg18t1qyE |
| 10:02 |
Zeno` |
RBA I see that video looks great. Really great. |
| 10:02 |
Amaz |
Zeno' I was using the TP that rba linked... |
| 10:03 |
RealBadAngel |
Amaz, please make sure you make new folder for TP with just textures in it |
| 10:03 |
RealBadAngel |
no subfolders |
| 10:03 |
Amaz |
Yep. |
| 10:04 |
Amaz |
Did that. |
| 10:04 |
RealBadAngel |
now, turn on shaders, and check bumpmapping and parallax |
| 10:04 |
Amaz |
I can see the TP, but when I turn bumpmaps on and off, I see practaly no difference... |
| 10:04 |
Zeno` |
there is no difference. |
| 10:05 |
Zeno` |
I am still waiting for RBA to point me to "the fucking tools" |
| 10:05 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 10:05 |
RealBadAngel |
that was a joke, game o words |
| 10:05 |
Zeno` |
;) |
| 10:05 |
RealBadAngel |
its just a built in feature |
| 10:05 |
Zeno` |
If there is a tool I'll use it |
| 10:06 |
RealBadAngel |
but wait, we have to help amaz find the hammer |
| 10:06 |
Amaz |
Yep! |
| 10:06 |
RealBadAngel |
your OS amaz? |
| 10:06 |
Amaz |
Derivitive of Ubuntu. |
| 10:07 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, please delete your debug.txt |
| 10:07 |
RealBadAngel |
and copypaste (pastebin.com for exapmle) start of your log |
| 10:07 |
RealBadAngel |
where MT informs you about drivers used |
| 10:08 |
Amaz |
Okay! |
| 10:09 |
Amaz |
http://pastebin.com/tXUuPLQf |
| 10:10 |
RealBadAngel |
nouveau, a bit slower than propertiary |
| 10:11 |
RealBadAngel |
but should work anyway |
| 10:11 |
RealBadAngel |
now, please make two screenshots |
| 10:11 |
RealBadAngel |
one with disabled shaders, one with enabled |
| 10:11 |
Amaz |
Okay. Doing that. |
| 10:12 |
Amaz |
I see the differnce! |
| 10:12 |
RealBadAngel |
lol, being in danger of developer action helped? |
| 10:13 |
Amaz |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Ul-oPrs64i73.png |
| 10:13 |
Amaz |
:P |
| 10:13 |
Amaz |
That is awesome. |
| 10:13 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, it works |
| 10:14 |
RealBadAngel |
now walk around the bricks |
| 10:14 |
Amaz |
I needed the two images side by side to be able to appreciate the difference. |
| 10:14 |
Amaz |
Okay! |
| 10:14 |
RealBadAngel |
and see them from different angles |
| 10:14 |
RealBadAngel |
notice how the texture is changing |
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| 10:15 |
Amaz |
Wow! |
| 10:15 |
RealBadAngel |
this is thx to two different effects |
| 10:16 |
RealBadAngel |
a normal map, that defines how light behaves on that surface |
| 10:16 |
RealBadAngel |
and heightmap, stored in alpha channel |
| 10:16 |
RealBadAngel |
the 2nd, is the parallax occlusion |
| 10:17 |
RealBadAngel |
which uses eye ray to define what can you see |
| 10:17 |
Amaz |
Right... |
| 10:19 |
RealBadAngel |
now, since we do know where the hammer is |
| 10:19 |
RealBadAngel |
lets think on how we can use it, can we? ;) |
| 10:19 |
Amaz |
Okay! |
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| 10:20 |
RealBadAngel |
we do have two reasonable solutions |
| 10:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean those with quality effects |
| 10:20 |
RealBadAngel |
one is gimp, with normalmap plugin |
| 10:21 |
RealBadAngel |
but personally i find it weak |
| 10:21 |
Amaz |
Okay. Does that come by default? |
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| 10:21 |
Amaz |
The normalmap plugin, that is. |
| 10:21 |
RealBadAngel |
better one is "crazybump" |
| 10:22 |
RealBadAngel |
app for windows that makes really insane good normal maps |
| 10:22 |
Amaz |
Would it work with wine? |
| 10:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i tried here and failed |
| 10:22 |
Amaz |
Okay... |
| 10:23 |
RealBadAngel |
but you can try on your setup |
| 10:23 |
Amaz |
Right! |
| 10:23 |
RealBadAngel |
the above app is the only reason for me to have win partition ;) |
| 10:23 |
Amaz |
XD |
| 10:23 |
Amaz |
This? http://www.crazybump.com/ |
| 10:23 |
RealBadAngel |
theres also an app to recreate its functionality in linux |
| 10:24 |
RealBadAngel |
insanebump |
| 10:24 |
RealBadAngel |
but its not as great yet |
| 10:24 |
Amaz |
But not as good? |
| 10:24 |
Amaz |
Right! |
| 10:25 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, when playin with height in crazybump |
| 10:25 |
RealBadAngel |
best effects are achieved when using height at level 10-20 |
| 10:25 |
RealBadAngel |
but it really depends on the kind of surface |
| 10:26 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
| 10:26 |
RealBadAngel |
when you will pick too high level, it may deform the texture |
| 10:27 |
Amaz |
Is there a minimum reseloution? |
| 10:27 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 10:27 |
RealBadAngel |
but i suggest using at least 128px |
| 10:27 |
RealBadAngel |
ah, and turnin on mipmapping |
| 10:28 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
| 10:28 |
RealBadAngel |
you may want to check also textures filtering |
| 10:28 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
| 10:28 |
RealBadAngel |
those features are meant for hi-res textures |
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Amaz |
Will it work on windows xp? |
| 10:29 |
RealBadAngel |
crazybump? |
| 10:29 |
RealBadAngel |
it should |
| 10:29 |
Amaz |
Right. |
| 10:29 |
Amaz |
I'll try it on a virtual machine when I get a moment. |
| 10:29 |
RealBadAngel |
oh, VM |
| 10:30 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont think so |
| 10:30 |
Amaz |
:( |
| 10:30 |
Zeno` |
VM is not likely to work well |
| 10:30 |
RealBadAngel |
its depending on GFX drivers |
| 10:30 |
Amaz |
Sigh... |
| 10:30 |
RealBadAngel |
and OpenGL |
| 10:31 |
RealBadAngel |
and thats not the thing what VM is doing well |
| 10:31 |
Zeno` |
yeah and most of the vm gfx and opengl drivers for VMs are... not good... in my experience :( |
| 10:34 |
Amaz |
:( |
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* Zeno` |
bursts into tears |
| 10:36 |
* Amaz |
boots up an old laptop... Very old |
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Amaz |
What would be the results of bumpmapping a 32px texture pack? |
| 10:53 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 10:54 |
Amaz |
^RealBadAngel |
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* Krock |
made an account cleanup program |
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* Krock |
deleted about 2000 unused files |
| 10:56 |
Krock |
4.9, 0.4.10 to be released ~July 6th |
| 10:56 |
Krock |
yay |
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PenguinDad |
I can't wait for 0.4.10 to get released because of the shadars |
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Zeno` |
the shaders are not in 0.4.9? |
| 11:00 |
Krock |
shaders are there since always |
| 11:00 |
PenguinDad |
Zeno`: because of better shadars |
| 11:00 |
twoelk |
so this http://wiki.minetest.net/Creating_texture_packs needs a section on how to support bumpmapping and parallax occlusion |
| 11:00 |
Zeno` |
are the new shaders #ifdef'd away? |
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* Zeno` |
looks |
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Amaz |
RealBadAngel, might it be possible for you to make a tutorial about how to make bumpmaps in gimp please (With of without the insanebump plugin)? My attempt produced this: |
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Amaz |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/QOXNFzsMrg7O.png |
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Megaf_ |
Morning |
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* Krock |
needed a sign repair tool |
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* Krock |
wrote one |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: what sort of sign repair? |
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Krock |
PenguinDad, one to replace a "hack:sign_text_input" formspec with "field[text;;${text}]" |
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PenguinDad |
There are things still using this O_o |
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Krock |
/giveme special:signrepair |
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Jordach |
21 posts to 4k |
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Jordach |
-1+0 |
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Amaz |
Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&p=146913#p146913 Spam... |
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Jordach |
done |
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Megaf_ |
That's quite fast http://paste.debian.net/107772/ |
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Megaf_ |
Sometime I download from GitHub at 1400 KB/s and sometimes, like now, at just 90 KB/s |
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Megaf_ |
That's so slow =/ |
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coagen |
morning |
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sfan5 |
meow |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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nore |
hi sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
!tell ShadowNinja https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9646#p146735 |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: I'll pass that on when ShadowNinja is around |
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sfan5 |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 14:30 |
MinetestBot |
<3 sfan5 |
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PenguinDad |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30001 |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down |
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coagen |
hi sfan5 |
| 14:49 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 14:49 |
sfan5 |
did you highlight me yesterday night? |
| 14:49 |
sfan5 |
ah noi |
| 14:49 |
sfan5 |
-i |
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sfan5 |
it was kaeza |
| 14:50 |
Jordach |
mew |
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LemonLake |
ã“ã‚“ã«ã¡ã¯, sfan5 |
| 14:51 |
LemonLake |
got mozc to work |
| 14:51 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix inversion of full_punch_interval 3d6d66b 2014-07-02T16:48:11+02:00 http://git.io/YjrFTQ |
| 14:51 |
daswort |
any body know the name of the mod that replaces certain block with other blocks if someone on the server walks by? i have some unknown objects i need replaced in an undefined area |
| 14:51 |
* sfan5 |
gives LemonLake a 猫 |
| 14:52 |
LemonLake |
meow |
| 14:52 |
sfan5 |
nyan |
| 14:52 |
LemonLake |
brb, nosebleed |
| 14:52 |
Jordach |
lelelelelelelelel |
| 14:52 |
coagen |
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/885/nosebleed03.jpg |
| 14:53 |
daswort |
found it: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2777 |
| 14:53 |
LemonLake |
don't mock me please |
| 14:53 |
* sfan5 |
meows at coagen |
| 14:53 |
coagen |
LemonLake: I do not mock sir |
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* sfan5 |
gives coagen a , |
| 14:53 |
LemonLake |
its nothin crazy |
| 14:54 |
LemonLake |
but it gave me a headache |
| 14:54 |
coagen |
LemonLake: only hope to make you laugh, sorry if I did not :\ |
| 14:54 |
LemonLake |
nah its fine |
| 14:54 |
LemonLake |
I meant <Jordach> lelelelelelelelel |
| 14:54 |
LemonLake |
but sfan5: isn't that chinese? |
| 14:55 |
Jordach |
LemonLake, i was thinking those anime moments |
| 14:55 |
LemonLake |
nope, nevermind |
| 14:55 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: it's both, a Hanzi and a Kanji |
| 14:55 |
LemonLake |
yep |
| 14:56 |
LemonLake |
sfan5: have you ever seen クラナド? |
| 14:56 |
* Jordach |
considers making a alternate Minetest_Game |
| 14:56 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: you already have BFD... |
| 14:56 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: whats that? |
| 14:57 |
LemonLake |
wait, lemme see the translation |
| 14:57 |
LemonLake |
Clannad |
| 14:57 |
LemonLake |
an anime+game |
| 14:57 |
Jordach |
sfan5, based from, except running MGV7 :3 |
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* sfan5 |
meows at Jordach |
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sfan5 |
LemonLake: never heard of it |
| 14:57 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: tip: http://beta.jisho.org/ is awesome |
| 14:57 |
LemonLake |
just curious :P |
| 14:57 |
LemonLake |
omfg |
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LemonLake |
sfan5, that is awesome |
| 14:58 |
sfan5 |
told 'ya |
| 14:58 |
nman3600 |
Krock, You'll probably disagree with me but can you add a colored/stained glass mod on your server. It'll be perfect for a build i'm planning |
| 14:59 |
LemonLake |
you wanna go light on the mods on a server like krock's, niall |
| 14:59 |
LemonLake |
it can get laggy and will be even worse with more mods |
| 14:59 |
ecutruin |
Jordach, make a minetest game interesting enough to entice me to do art for it. XD |
| 14:59 |
coagen |
sfan5, LemonLake, so where' the anime MT mods btw.. heh |
| 14:59 |
LemonLake |
are you kidding me, coagen |
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Jordach |
ecutruin, brb - installing a modified version of tanks |
| 14:59 |
Krock |
I don't need to install a mod because a single player needs it |
| 14:59 |
LemonLake |
hell yes |
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sfan5 |
coagen: asie made a skin mod w/ skins from touhou |
| 14:59 |
LemonLake |
we NEED to make one |
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* sfan5 |
exports another .xm as .wav |
| 14:59 |
coagen |
LemonLake: nope |
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LemonLake |
not sure what, tho |
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coagen |
LemonLake: I do not kid, sir |
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LemonLake |
google now knows that im into anime |
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nman3600 |
Krock, Many other people agree with me |
| 15:00 |
LemonLake |
its giving me all kinds of stuff |
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* coagen |
googles MT+anime |
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* sfan5 |
expects his avatar in the images section |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
s/googles/duckduckgos/ |
| 15:01 |
coagen |
haha |
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* ecutruin |
really wants mesh nodes. >.< |
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Jordach |
ecutruin, he's working on it |
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daswort |
how do i use the inspector of world edit after enabling it? |
| 15:01 |
coagen |
Jordach: I use ddg usually, google gives good img results tho |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
[00:00:00] - {Day changed to 01 July 2014} [13:41:58] <VanessaE> RBA's gonna attack mesh nodes next :) [13:42:01] <VanessaE> or so he says |
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Jordach |
[23:59:34] <Jordach> FUCKING FINALLY |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, expect me to drop the goddamn bomb when meshnodes arrive |
| 15:01 |
ecutruin |
Or some means to convery my mesh's to the other node type (forgot name already).. either way that lets me use my voxel art to make nodes. |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: I don't think you can fuck words... |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, nodeboxes :P |
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ecutruin |
Thats it. |
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* coagen |
found dokucraft |
| 15:02 |
ecutruin |
I don't want to make nodeboxes with the nodebox editor.. I want to use my tools. xD |
| 15:02 |
LemonLake |
anyway, now im gonna watch more clannad |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, ikr |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
i made several nodeboxes with blender |
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Jordach |
however, it's tedious |
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* Krock |
ignores server.minetest.net and goes to freeminer.org main site and gets the implenting codes |
| 15:03 |
ecutruin |
Well I do my art with Quibicle, letting me essentially do pixel art in 3D.. which is a much nicer workflow for model making of this type. |
| 15:03 |
Krock |
*implementing |
| 15:04 |
Amaz |
A nodebox I made :) https://cdn.mediacru.sh/B_CtAivHn2Qk.png |
| 15:04 |
SylvieLorxu |
Oh, FreeMiner has a nice-looking homepage... |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
wat tha fack is that Amaz |
| 15:04 |
sfan5 |
Krock: it's the same as for servers.minetest.net |
| 15:05 |
coagen |
sfan5: I know a girl who alwasy had a response for the american phrase: "fucking A!" which can be used to express various emotions, her retort is always: "Why not fuck a B it has two holes!" |
| 15:05 |
Amaz |
A tomb, like you see in cathedrals... |
| 15:05 |
Krock |
sfan5, yeah. but that one is about_blank - like |
| 15:05 |
ecutruin |
Amaz, stuff I've made via quibicle - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cxi9vzdzmk6ywpa/6NDGwDrWBl#/ |
| 15:05 |
Krock |
*about:blank |
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sfan5 |
coagen: lol |
| 15:05 |
ecutruin |
Each of those are 10-15 minute tests. |
| 15:05 |
Amaz |
Nice. |
| 15:06 |
ecutruin |
I haven't had a serious project I've wanted to do art for since Ender Storage.. |
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sfan5 |
Krock: freeminer just limits to number of server to 10(?) which does not include the server that breaks the javascript |
| 15:06 |
coagen |
sfan5: so I don't know about words, but letters certianly have holes that can be fucked... :| |
| 15:07 |
Krock |
sfan5, yeah. I noticed, when I change it too high, then it reproduces servers.minetest.net |
| 15:07 |
Krock |
any bugfix coming? |
| 15:07 |
proller |
дщд |
| 15:07 |
proller |
lol |
| 15:07 |
proller |
maybe fix servers^ |
| 15:07 |
proller |
?\ |
| 15:07 |
Krock |
huh? |
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sfan5 |
Krock: xyz hosts the serverlist, we can't change the DNS atm |
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sfan5 |
proller: wtf |
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sfan5 |
that won't helpo |
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sfan5 |
-o |
| 15:08 |
proller |
somebody brokes something 3 days ago |
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sfan5 |
someone can change servers to send garbage |
| 15:08 |
proller |
wat |
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sfan5 |
and that garbage goes through the checks in the perl script YOU wrote |
| 15:08 |
proller |
1. its not garbage |
| 15:08 |
proller |
2. broken by SN |
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sfan5 |
(in this case: garbage = gameid & version attr. missing) |
| 15:08 |
sfan5 |
SN?? |
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proller |
yes |
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sfan5 |
whats that? |
| 15:09 |
proller |
ShadowNinja, |
| 15:09 |
Krock |
Something New |
| 15:09 |
sfan5 |
lolwut |
| 15:09 |
Krock |
xD |
| 15:09 |
sfan5 |
there is not a single line of code written by ShadowNinja running on the master server |
| 15:09 |
proller |
think more |
| 15:09 |
sfan5 |
servers.minetest.net still uses the perl one |
| 15:09 |
proller |
yet more |
| 15:09 |
sfan5 |
enlighten me |
| 15:10 |
proller |
its not perl problem |
| 15:10 |
proller |
no |
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sfan5 |
this is not what I said |
| 15:10 |
proller |
try find problem in 5 days 8) |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
you're not being helpfuk |
| 15:11 |
proller |
you want host serverlist, its good challenge |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
helpful* |
| 15:11 |
coagen |
I could help host |
| 15:11 |
coagen |
I got 999megs of BW |
| 15:11 |
coagen |
:| |
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Krock |
seems like MT serverlist needs a re-do |
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* sfan5 |
facepalm hard |
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* Krock |
hears a glass splitting |
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sfan5 |
Krock: did you see the PR with the python serverlist? |
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sfan5 |
that was actually integrated |
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Krock |
oh |
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coagen |
what is the problem with the script? I will rewrirte it in bash :P |
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ecutruin |
So yeah, Jordach, you need to come up with something amazing that I will want to do art for. ^-~ |
| 15:14 |
Krock |
coagen, not bash. use batch. |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, i've already made a list of things hated in MC |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
Zombies spawning more zombies |
| 15:14 |
sfan5 |
coagen: there is no problem anymore, servers.minetest.net just still uses the old thing |
| 15:14 |
proller |
instead of doing shomething new useful MT people just broke already working things |
| 15:14 |
ecutruin |
No way.. zombies spawning more zombies is epic! xD |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, even on easy, they get annoying quickly |
| 15:14 |
ecutruin |
MC really needs more of a challenge at least.. removing that means you should definitely add challenge somewhere else. |
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sfan5 |
proller: nobody could read that perl stuff |
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coagen |
Krock: I write scripts in bash that parse 12m-13m Lines of log files, as well as other scripts that parse ~300K php files for malicious code... so I like bash |
| 15:15 |
proller |
but it works year+ without problem |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, don't worry; i can invent brand new mobs :P |
| 15:15 |
coagen |
sfan5: ah ok |
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sfan5 |
coagen: you can't (reliably) parse PHP for malicious things |
| 15:15 |
proller |
yes, broken python thing better than working perl |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
stfu |
| 15:16 |
sfan5 |
what's broken with the new serverlist? |
| 15:16 |
sfan5 |
!deop joepie91 |
| 15:16 |
sfan5 |
wtf Jordach |
| 15:16 |
Krock |
o.o |
| 15:16 |
proller |
http://servers.minetest.net/ broken 3 days |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
i'm tired of this freeminer is better shit |
| 15:16 |
coagen |
sfan5: well you can parse for the basics, I have yet to add advanced features, but my code detects base64 evals, and other fun stuff |
| 15:16 |
sfan5 |
proller: it's not using the python version, it still uses the perl thing |
| 15:16 |
SylvieLorxu |
lol, people still tab-complete too quickly |
| 15:17 |
SylvieLorxu |
Also: Hi joepie91, you here too? :P |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
SylvieLorxu, quassels is based on how often that nick speaks |
| 15:17 |
proller |
sfan5, * its broken * |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
proller, you're broken |
| 15:17 |
sfan5 |
proller: servers.minetest.net DOES NOT EVEN run the python SL |
| 15:17 |
SylvieLorxu |
Jordach: I should set WeeChat to sort that on last message |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
<Jordach>i'm tired of this freeminer is better shit |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
yup |
| 15:17 |
ecutruin |
I have some really crazy ideas for a MC/MT style game.. but I just.. need a lot of things not available in MT.. and coding it in MC doesn't appeal to me much. >.< |
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* sfan5 |
meows at ecutruin |
| 15:18 |
Krock |
both games are good |
| 15:18 |
* ecutruin |
mews back. |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, i understand your pain |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
it's either forge or gtfo sadly |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
(because they'll bitch about it not working with forge) |
| 15:18 |
ecutruin |
Forge doesn't bother me.. after all, I can talk to all of the forge developers whenever I want. |
| 15:18 |
ecutruin |
And most of the major mod developers as well. >.> |
| 15:18 |
* sfan5 |
meows at ecutruin |
| 15:19 |
sfan5 |
coagen: btw: did you get Atom to work? |
| 15:19 |
coagen |
sfan5: atom-editor-git aur build installed, but didnt fire it up yet, i'll do that now! |
| 15:19 |
ecutruin |
I am worried a bit from what I've seen in terms of direct for custom node drawtypes though. I love what I've seen with the framed glass thing being worked on.. but hardcoding all the draw types seems very restrictive. |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
ecutruin: lua is too slow for doing rendering |
| 15:20 |
ecutruin |
I know. |
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ecutruin |
I'm not sure of a good solution, mind you.. but it still worries me. ^-^; |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
have fun inventing a language that compiles into assembler |
| 15:20 |
Jordach |
meshnodes are basically the solution here |
| 15:20 |
* ecutruin |
has worked with x86 assembler before. ^-^; |
| 15:21 |
ecutruin |
Then again, that was probably 10 years or so ago in college. |
| 15:21 |
sfan5 |
ecutruin: we need arm and mips too |
| 15:21 |
ecutruin |
Bleh. |
| 15:21 |
ecutruin |
I just want to make pretty art. |
| 15:21 |
Jordach |
lemme reload |
| 15:21 |
coagen |
sfan5: looks great! I will use this for some projects |
| 15:22 |
ecutruin |
But modifying the core engine for each new drawtype I need.. doesn't seem very good, as it forces a new client install for things that may only be useful to specific game types. |
| 15:22 |
sfan5 |
coagen: I recommend you to use the seti & the monokai theme |
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coagen |
sfan5: going to try that now! |
| 15:23 |
Jordach |
there |
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* ecutruin |
shrugs though. |
| 15:23 |
Jordach |
tl;dr, dropbox isn't working right |
| 15:23 |
sfan5 |
coagen: if you want the overview thing on the right, it's called "minimap" |
| 15:23 |
Jordach |
i'm uploading at 40MB/S |
| 15:23 |
sfan5 |
coagen: ...and my font is "Envy Code R" |
| 15:23 |
coagen |
sfan5: yes!, finding it |
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ecutruin |
I honestly don't see a good solution either, sfan5, yeah. Just means I have to either dig into C++ (uhg) or wait for the current devs to do the stuff I need to make what I want. ^-^; |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
ecutruin, patience is a good thing here :3 |
| 15:25 |
ecutruin |
Oh, I have tons of patiene. ^-^ |
| 15:25 |
ecutruin |
patience* |
| 15:25 |
coagen |
sfan5: oh this has solarized! nice :D |
| 15:25 |
ecutruin |
I am easily able to do nothing for large amounts of time! ^-~ |
| 15:25 |
* ecutruin |
laughs. |
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* sfan5 |
purrs at ecutruin |
| 15:26 |
Jordach |
i do that daily |
| 15:26 |
sfan5 |
TIL Jordach purrs daily |
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* ecutruin |
mews and laughs. |
| 15:31 |
* Jordach |
engages the fans |
| 15:31 |
Jordach |
it's rendering time |
| 15:31 |
* sfan5 |
gives Jordach a kitten |
| 15:31 |
sfan5 |
to keep you busy while rendering |
| 15:33 |
Jordach |
frame 2 of 720 |
| 15:34 |
Jordach |
however, it's segmented in 1/8 frame segments |
| 15:34 |
Jordach |
!c 720/8 |
| 15:34 |
MinetestBot |
90 |
| 15:34 |
Jordach |
1/6 * |
| 15:34 |
sfan5 |
!c 720/8.0 |
| 15:34 |
MinetestBot |
90.0 |
| 15:35 |
Jordach |
!c 720/6 |
| 15:35 |
MinetestBot |
120 |
| 15:35 |
Jordach |
more like lit |
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| 15:35 |
Jordach |
(i can't type) |
| 15:35 |
nman3600 |
Krock, Can i have the link to the NEWEST Mini map page on your server? |
| 15:36 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 15:36 |
nman3600 |
Hi |
| 15:36 |
Calinou |
Krock, in a shop I saw “Fish & Crock†food. |
| 15:37 |
markv |
Hello peoplest |
| 15:37 |
nman3600 |
Hey markv |
| 15:38 |
markv |
hello there nman3600 |
| 15:38 |
nman3600 |
Krock, Hello? |
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| 15:45 |
Jordach |
pssh |
| 15:45 |
Jordach |
120 frames = 6 hours |
| 15:46 |
Jordach |
TIL i need an Intel XEON |
| 15:46 |
Calinou |
Xeons aren't any faster than desktop CPUs, Jordach: to see large gains, you'd need at least 2 Xeons, which is 3 times more expensive than a single CPU. |
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| 15:47 |
coagen |
actually |
| 15:47 |
coagen |
I bought a xeon 3.4 ghz to replace an i7 920 for $245 on ebay |
| 15:47 |
coagen |
the end of last year |
| 15:48 |
Jordach |
tl;dr i need a render farm |
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| 15:55 |
ecutruin |
lol |
| 15:56 |
ecutruin |
I need... somethng I want to make art for. O.o; |
| 15:56 |
Calinou |
ecutruin, Minetest! |
| 15:56 |
Calinou |
(-: |
| 15:57 |
ecutruin |
Calinou, none of the MT mods really interest me (no offense). Unfortunately, I've been spoiled by MC mods. ^-^; |
| 15:57 |
ecutruin |
And I've grown bored of most of the MC mods even. ^-^; |
| 15:58 |
coagen |
ecutruin: have you tried the Lord of the Test game? |
| 15:58 |
ecutruin |
coagen, haven't even seen it. Got a link? I haven't seen everything in MT.. but quite a bit.. and nothing that has caught my attention completely as of yet. |
| 15:59 |
coagen |
ecutruin: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5578 |
| 16:00 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9662 → improved Soccer mod |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
ecutruin, design high-resolution textures, models, sounds, OpenGameArt may enjoy your contribution |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
http://opengameart.org |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
(or just publish some freely licensed stuff from eg. another game; you can do that too) |
| 16:01 |
ecutruin |
I don't care for high-resolution textures.. they don't really add much to the game to me really. |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
this has nothing to do with Minetest 8) |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
or even Minecraft |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
doing pixel art is also useful, to a lesser extent |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
but high-resolution stuff is of greater use to most people there |
| 16:02 |
ecutruin |
As for Lord of the Test, coagen, I'm sorry, but I really don't like the style of what I see in the screenshots. |
| 16:03 |
coagen |
ecutruin: groovy, its not for everyone I think ;) |
| 16:03 |
ecutruin |
I do pixel, voxel, and some vector art. I've started to learn some Blender and animation with Jordach's help, but that's slow going due to work and time. Generally don't do higher quality art as its just not my thing. ^-^ |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
I do both, heh |
| 16:04 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on coagen's head |
| 16:04 |
* coagen |
just realized his arch mirrorlist was fucked and thats why he wasn't getting updates for few days |
| 16:05 |
* coagen |
attempts to maintain composure while kitten digs claws into scakp |
| 16:05 |
coagen |
*scalp |
| 16:05 |
coagen |
OW! |
| 16:06 |
Krock |
nman3600, latest post on the server topic ||| Calinou, yeah. food have crazy names :P |
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| 16:07 |
* coagen |
removes kitten and places a "no kittens" hat on |
| 16:07 |
coagen |
sfan5: my cat scraches me whenever I pet her :| very annoying |
| 16:08 |
sfan5 |
give it to me!!!! |
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| 16:08 |
coagen |
lol |
| 16:09 |
* coagen |
places a large grey dirty looking but affectionately scratching cat onto sfan5's head |
| 16:09 |
* sfan5 |
purrs |
| 16:09 |
* PenguinDad |
doesn't have a cat |
| 16:10 |
* LemonLake |
's cat has to be put down soon |
| 16:10 |
coagen |
she does look dirty, but she's not, her fur is just mottled in a strange way |
| 16:10 |
coagen |
LemonLake: :\ sorry |
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Jordach |
Frame 15, sigh |
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| 16:12 |
Jordach |
dis gun b a while |
| 16:19 |
sfan5 |
>gun |
| 16:19 |
sfan5 |
omg |
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| 16:26 |
LemonLake |
omg i might finish clannad today |
| 16:26 |
LemonLake |
then i have to watch clannad after story |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
clannad? story? |
| 16:28 |
LemonLake |
'clannad: after story' |
| 16:28 |
LemonLake |
they're both animes |
| 16:28 |
Calinou |
PenguinDad, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1433 → I read your comments in Fluttershy's voice :< |
| 16:28 |
Calinou |
the power of avatars |
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| 16:29 |
PenguinDad |
Rofl |
| 16:30 |
PenguinDad |
john_minetest: gentoo user problems :P |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
my “16x16 "blank/transparent" texture, pure white and pure black textures†issue on GitHub was totally deleted |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
it's 404 when I click on the notification |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/179 → 404 |
| 16:31 |
markv |
Know any good games? |
| 16:32 |
markv |
For linux |
| 16:32 |
markv |
FPSes |
| 16:32 |
LemonLake |
steam |
| 16:32 |
LemonLake |
windows |
| 16:32 |
coagen |
Serious Sam 3 |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
neither Steam nor Windows are games |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
markv, Tesseract: http://tesseract.gg |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
hey, how about we play that OpenArena game you promised me? ;) |
| 16:32 |
markv |
Looks nice |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
like, 1.75 year ago :P |
| 16:33 |
coagen |
openarena is fun |
| 16:33 |
coagen |
used to play it ocassionally |
| 16:33 |
markv |
:) |
| 16:33 |
Calinou |
john_minetest, it's a low power dual core |
| 16:33 |
Calinou |
programs will behave nicely (low power CPUs are fine for lightweight stuff), but the heavy ones will all be slow |
| 16:34 |
coagen |
john_minetest: 2 < 4 |
| 16:34 |
markv |
Hmm Tesseract |
| 16:34 |
markv |
Not realistic enough |
| 16:34 |
Calinou |
john_minetest, hey, marketing 101: low-end CPUs are “low powerâ€, high-end CPUs are “high performance†(-: |
| 16:34 |
markv |
I liked Shadow of Chernobyl |
| 16:34 |
Calinou |
markv, http://etlegacy. com → for more realism |
| 16:34 |
Calinou |
it's not a simulator though ;) |
| 16:34 |
markv |
Not true |
| 16:35 |
Calinou |
http://etlegacy.coù |
| 16:35 |
Calinou |
http://etlegacy.com |
| 16:35 |
coagen |
markv: have you played "Metro: Last Light"? |
| 16:36 |
Calinou |
ehm |
| 16:36 |
markv |
Nope |
| 16:36 |
markv |
But I'll try |
| 16:36 |
* Calinou |
wouldn't |
| 16:36 |
markv |
Fucking bingo |
| 16:36 |
coagen |
markv: I don't usually play fps games, but I liked what I've played so far, at least 4-6 hrs in or so |
| 16:36 |
markv |
I love you |
| 16:36 |
coagen |
Calinou: didn like it? |
| 16:36 |
Calinou |
this is what you would say to your wallet |
| 16:37 |
markv |
Is it the russian type? |
| 16:37 |
coagen |
markv: yes |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
coagen, proprietary, paid, potentially DRM'd crap. |
| 16:37 |
markv |
Good |
| 16:37 |
ecutruin |
I want a game like Fallout 3.. without all the bugs and awkwardness. |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
oh, their GNU/Linux port also has limited graphic settings too. |
| 16:37 |
ecutruin |
Unfortunately, I doubt that'll ever happen. xD |
| 16:37 |
markv |
Will I have to torrent it? |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
(while playable, it means the developers have poor practices) |
| 16:37 |
coagen |
Calinou: meh, I wanted a game that was russian, so I put it on russian audio and eng subs and played it like that, was fun :) |
| 16:38 |
* markv |
can't find the site |
| 16:38 |
Calinou |
Freeminer is pretty much russian :P |
| 16:38 |
coagen |
Calinou: sorry I play steam games and give them my money, I feel ashamed sometimes :P |
| 16:38 |
Calinou |
try to give them less money |
| 16:38 |
markv |
5gb... |
| 16:39 |
markv |
4 days |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
viva el AAA games |
| 16:39 |
Calinou |
free gaming wins on the hardware requirements, hugely |
| 16:39 |
coagen |
wow |
| 16:40 |
coagen |
i'm going to have to blackhole those canadian bastards |
| 16:40 |
Calinou |
markv, TItanfall is capable of eating more than 25 GB, something like 40 GB I think |
| 16:40 |
markv |
Wait wut? |
| 16:40 |
Calinou |
oh, it also uses 10 year old engine, yet is sold 60 € on consoles |
| 16:40 |
Calinou |
(-: |
| 16:41 |
coagen |
just got a heavy hit on a webserver |
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* coagen |
looks to see who it was, bets on canada |
| 16:41 |
Calinou |
at #fsf, we're talking about web servers right now, heh |
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| 16:42 |
coagen |
what is #fsf? |
| 16:42 |
coagen |
free software foundation? |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
yes, pretty much |
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coagen |
162.210.196.97 - - [02/Jul/2014:12:37:22 -0400] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.0" 200 59 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MJ12bot/v1.4.5; http://www.majestic12.co.uk/bot.php?+)" |
| 16:44 |
coagen |
what is this |
| 16:51 |
coagen |
it wasn't canadians |
| 16:52 |
coagen |
but I did have some agressively hitting a wp site a couple months ago |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
install Limit Login Attempts |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
quite important :) |
| 16:52 |
coagen |
good idea, I wonder if I can do a force install of that pkg to sites |
| 16:53 |
coagen |
without editing the db userpass and logging in and doing it myself, etc... |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
why? :P |
| 16:55 |
coagen |
got a lot of sites I would like to get it installed on |
| 16:55 |
coagen |
hah |
| 16:55 |
coagen |
Calinou: I do have some bruteforce protection already, but I think more never hurts, haha |
| 16:56 |
* markv |
gets shadow of chernobyl |
| 16:57 |
markv |
4 hours |
| 16:57 |
coagen |
markv: steam? |
| 16:57 |
markv |
yeah |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
you can't pay with maptools:copper_coin |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
:( |
| 17:00 |
coagen |
markv: http://store.steampowered.com/app/297120/ |
| 17:00 |
coagen |
looks different... |
| 17:01 |
coagen |
I think I might have to get a copy of that |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
if you're into FPS with ugly lighting, try AssaultCube |
| 17:02 |
coagen |
haha |
| 17:03 |
markv |
AssaultCube is dreadful |
| 17:03 |
Calinou |
learn to play it |
| 17:04 |
coagen |
its fast, I'll give yo uthat |
| 17:04 |
coagen |
but why not just play quake 1, dm6 |
| 17:05 |
coagen |
Calinou: I assume you've played xonotic? |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
<coagen> but why not just play quake 1, dm6 |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
paid, proprietary too |
| 17:06 |
coagen |
ok fine |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
copyright lasts more than 18 years in our society :( |
| 17:06 |
coagen |
see this list |
| 17:06 |
coagen |
https://www.foresightlinux.se/person-shooter-games-linux/ |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
I learned about that particular distribution because it has a Minetest package |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
was put on minetest.net |
| 17:07 |
markv |
Calinou, Lets play nexuiz |
| 17:07 |
* PenguinDad |
likes Red Eclipse |
| 17:07 |
* markv |
plays portal |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
dead game |
| 17:08 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Calinou |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
unmaintained, latest stable release contains bugs (white water without reflections), worse than Xonotic overall |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
you can play Xonotic with Nexuiz physics and balanced |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
"exec physics252.cfg; exec balance252.cfg" I think |
| 17:09 |
coagen |
markv: xonotic is nexuiz |
| 17:09 |
coagen |
sort of |
| 17:09 |
markv |
I know |
| 17:09 |
markv |
I have nexuiz though |
| 17:09 |
markv |
Only played the tutorial but I have it |
| 17:09 |
PenguinDad |
I saw nexuiz in a shop once |
| 17:10 |
SylvieLorxu |
PenguinDad: Old Nexuiz, not the new crap one |
| 17:10 |
coagen |
also, if that list wasn't long enough, wikipedia has it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freeware_first-person_shooters |
| 17:10 |
SylvieLorxu |
Some people bought the name to make a quite different game |
| 17:10 |
* markv |
is usually happy with half life 2 |
| 17:11 |
markv |
I'll se if I can get the linux version |
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| 17:11 |
PenguinDad |
SylvieLorxu: I know that the new one is crap |
| 17:11 |
coagen |
wow, they actually updated assault cube last year |
| 17:12 |
coagen |
wonder with what |
| 17:12 |
* coagen |
goes to find changelog |
| 17:13 |
coagen |
Did anyone play "Black Mesa"? |
| 17:13 |
coagen |
I never got around to it... but I downloaded the awesome soundtrack |
| 17:13 |
markv |
I did |
| 17:13 |
coagen |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mesa_%28video_game%29 |
| 17:13 |
markv |
Well |
| 17:13 |
markv |
I played Half Life 1 |
| 17:13 |
coagen |
markv: thoughts on it? |
| 17:14 |
coagen |
:\ |
| 17:14 |
coagen |
thats not black mesa then |
| 17:14 |
markv |
It's quite hard but it is awesome |
| 17:14 |
markv |
PRactically the same |
| 17:14 |
markv |
Half Life 1 copied Black mesa |
| 17:14 |
markv |
Or vice versa |
| 17:14 |
coagen |
black mesa was released sept 14, 2012 |
| 17:14 |
* markv |
extracts 8,000 files |
| 17:15 |
markv |
Okay fuck it I actually hate portal |
| 17:15 |
coagen |
hey, I just realized something |
| 17:15 |
coagen |
if I have portal/portal 2 does that mean I can play black mesa |
| 17:15 |
markv |
coagen, What? |
| 17:15 |
coagen |
hrm |
| 17:15 |
markv |
Erm |
| 17:15 |
markv |
yes |
| 17:16 |
markv |
You can play Half-Life 2 |
| 17:16 |
coagen |
cool! |
| 17:16 |
coagen |
I dont have hl2 |
| 17:16 |
markv |
Maybe not Black Mesa |
| 17:16 |
coagen |
:| |
| 17:16 |
markv |
hl2.exe |
| 17:16 |
markv |
hl.exe if you have it |
| 17:16 |
markv |
Both Portal 1 and 2 use the Half-Life 2 (Source) Rendering engine |
| 17:16 |
coagen |
black mesa uses the source version included with Orange box |
| 17:17 |
coagen |
markv: I'm going to check on that, and maybe play Black Mesa tonight :D |
| 17:17 |
markv |
I'm still downloading stuffs |
| 17:18 |
markv |
6.7GB |
| 17:18 |
markv |
HL2 for linux |
| 17:18 |
markv |
If i have to resize my partition again I will cry |
| 17:18 |
markv |
I need an SSD |
| 17:19 |
coagen |
SSD's are smaller :| |
| 17:19 |
markv |
2.8GB read speed :P |
| 17:20 |
markv |
*/sec |
| 17:20 |
markv |
http://www.span.com/product/OCZ-PCI-Express-Z-Drive-R4-RM88-ZD4RM88-FH-3-2T-PCI-Express-v2-x8-SSD-3-2TB-SSD~34399 |
| 17:20 |
markv |
Shit just saw the price |
| 17:20 |
coagen |
thats a pci express one tho |
| 17:20 |
coagen |
:| |
| 17:20 |
sfan5 |
2800 MB != 2.8 GB |
| 17:20 |
coagen |
they are often incompatible with linux :| |
| 17:20 |
coagen |
afaik |
| 17:21 |
markv |
.. |
| 17:21 |
markv |
SATA is compatible though |
| 17:21 |
markv |
It uses SATA, right? |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
markv: can't you read? |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
it says PCI-E |
| 17:21 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/IP4pNdu |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
SATA can't even transfer 2.8GB/S |
| 17:22 |
markv |
I don't want that one |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
s/S/s/ |
| 17:22 |
* coagen |
places a kitten on sfan5's head |
| 17:22 |
* sfan5 |
meows at the kitten on his head |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
https://mediacru.sh/WJWiU8ZaoWRe |
| 17:23 |
coagen |
what is this digital madness |
| 17:23 |
* coagen |
jams |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
chiptunes <3 |
| 17:23 |
coagen |
sweet |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
aka the result of: |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
!tw https://twitter.com/sfan55/status/484344677257469952 |
| 17:24 |
MinetestBot |
http://keygenmusic.org/ <3 (@sfan55) |
| 17:25 |
coagen |
haha |
| 17:26 |
coagen |
keygen music is the best |
| 17:26 |
sfan5 |
it resulted in 207 MB of FLACs |
| 17:26 |
LemonLake |
^ |
| 17:27 |
LemonLake |
damn sfan ninja |
| 17:27 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 17:27 |
coagen |
http://keygenjukebox.com/ |
| 17:27 |
coagen |
hrm |
| 17:28 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: I'm surprised only that it took so long to break the server list. The JS does some checks and escaping, but it assumes that the server data is reasonably sane. In fact XSS is probably possible corrently, in ways I won't describe here. |
| 17:28 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: nope, I searched for XSS and did not find any |
| 17:29 |
ShadowNinja |
I told xyz to drop the domain. |
| 17:29 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: /query |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: the perl things just does not check everything |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
coagen: in case you care: http://sprunge.us/Bcef |
| 17:30 |
coagen |
sfan5: I do, but this is a list, not files I can download listen to :| |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
coagen: my upload speed is 25 KB/s.. if you have time... |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
lemme zip them |
| 17:31 |
coagen |
markv, Calinou: this is interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhot |
| 17:31 |
LemonLake |
i love that game |
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| 17:32 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: that's my download speed! |
| 17:32 |
coagen |
sfan5: groovy man |
| 17:32 |
* sfan5 |
hugs PenguinDad |
| 17:32 |
sfan5 |
coagen: how about opus audio codec instead of flac? |
| 17:32 |
sfan5 |
opus sounds like the original even at 75 kbit/s |
| 17:32 |
sfan5 |
sample: <the mediacrush link I posted> |
| 17:33 |
coagen |
sfan5: sure |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
k |
| 17:33 |
coagen |
sfan5: how do I play opus? will mplayer play that? |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
if you have a recent ffmpeg it will support opus playback without any additonal libs |
| 17:33 |
coagen |
groovy |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
tip: mpv is better than mplayer |
| 17:34 |
coagen |
hrm cool |
| 17:35 |
whiskers75 |
wut part |
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* whiskers75 |
meows at sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
meows at whiskers75 |
| 17:36 |
coagen |
sfan5: mpv git-7084e80 rdy to go |
| 17:36 |
coagen |
LemonLake: you've played Superhot? |
| 17:36 |
LemonLake |
hours and hours on end of it |
| 17:37 |
LemonLake |
its addictive |
| 17:37 |
LemonLake |
finding different ways to do the levels |
| 17:37 |
LemonLake |
fascinating concept |
| 17:37 |
coagen |
LemonLake: looks very interesting, I will try it |
| 17:38 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Also, MinetestBot: fail on !tell. (highmon++) |
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sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: it breaks frequently :( |
| 17:40 |
* coagen |
sticks to release versions for now :| |
| 17:40 |
sfan5 |
coagen: release of mpv? the latest git is perfectly stable |
| 17:40 |
ShadowNinja |
(And issue fixed) |
| 17:40 |
MinetestBot |
ShadowNinja: 07-02 19:30 UTC <sfan5> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9646#p146735 |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
<markv> Both Portal 1 and 2 use the Half-Life 2 (Source) Rendering engine |
| 17:40 |
ShadowNinja |
Ohai. |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
these are full game engines, both loosely based on Quake, not just rendering engines |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: it randomly breaks, when I reload the module it works.. hrm... |
| 17:43 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Feel free to add those rewordings to the SL now. |
| 17:43 |
sfan5 |
ok |
| 17:43 |
asl |
ShadowNinja: will the chainsaw be fix any time soon? |
| 17:44 |
sfan5 |
coagen: got the url? |
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ShadowNinja |
asl: Maybe. If anything it should get more nodes though. |
| 17:45 |
coagen |
sfan5: yes!, thx |
| 17:52 |
coagen |
In response to learning about Facebook involvement in a psychology experiment that manipulated the news feeds of 700,000 users without their knowledge: http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=2652&cid=61971 |
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JMiahMan |
Hello All |
| 18:06 |
sfan5 |
hello |
| 18:07 |
JMiahMan |
Hello sfan5 are you still working on minetest-next? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
| 18:08 |
JMiahMan |
are there mobs currently? |
| 18:08 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 18:08 |
JMiahMan |
if I was a add a mobs mod would that screw things up? |
| 18:09 |
coagen |
john_minetest: the comment was amusing to me... |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 18:09 |
JMiahMan |
Good, thanks |
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Calinou |
coagen, viva el facebook |
| 18:34 |
jp |
Viva la Revolucion |
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jp |
Ah toi aussi t'es français... |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
non, il ne l'est pas ;) |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
il est allemand je crois |
| 18:40 |
jp |
Ah, ok. |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
john_minetest, you're German, right? |
| 18:42 |
hummeleBop |
salut jp :p |
| 18:43 |
jp |
Salut hummeleBop |
| 18:43 |
hummeleBop |
y'a #minetest-fr pour des conversations en français |
| 18:43 |
jp |
Les Français se réveillent parmi les anglophones :p |
| 18:43 |
jp |
Oui je sais, merci. |
| 18:45 |
jp |
J'avais* |
| 18:46 |
jp |
There are alot of germans on MT. |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
a lot* |
| 18:46 |
jp |
Thx |
| 18:52 |
LemonLake |
One more episode, then there's some work to do, then the next series |
| 18:55 |
Megaf__ |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30001 |
| 18:55 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down |
| 18:55 |
Megaf__ |
when will that be fixed? =/ |
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| 18:59 |
Megaf__ |
jp; yep, 40% of players on my server are Germans |
| 18:59 |
Megaf__ |
40% from USA |
| 18:59 |
LemonLake |
that's quite the statistic |
| 18:59 |
LemonLake |
is that just an estimate or do you have some sort of geoip? |
| 18:59 |
Megaf__ |
and the rest from crazy countries and latin america |
| 18:59 |
Megaf__ |
LemonLake; I asked them |
| 18:59 |
PenguinDad |
Megaf__: minetest.megaf.info seems to have dns problems |
| 19:00 |
jp |
The portuguese too, they are quite representated here. |
| 19:01 |
PenguinDad |
"21:00:16: ERROR[main]: Couldn't resolve address: Der Name oder der Dienst ist nicht bekannt" |
| 19:02 |
Megaf__ |
try 30003 |
| 19:03 |
PenguinDad |
Megaf__: how does a different port solve dns problems? |
| 19:04 |
Megaf__ |
my server on 30001 is down, Im updating it |
| 19:04 |
Megaf__ |
PenguinDad; 177.18.182.124 30003 |
| 19:04 |
Megaf__ |
!up 177.18.182.124 30003 |
| 19:04 |
MinetestBot |
177.18.182.124:30003 is up (228ms) |
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Megaf__ |
PenguinDad; 177.18.182.124 30003 |
| 19:06 |
JMiahMan |
mine is theloveoflinux.com:30000 |
| 19:06 |
PenguinDad |
http://a.pomf.se/mrspsz.png eye killing beaches :D |
| 19:07 |
Megaf__ |
I removed my Wisdom tooth today |
| 19:07 |
Megaf__ |
on the left side |
| 19:08 |
Megaf__ |
what a terrible feeling i have now |
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JMiahMan |
Megaf__: on any pain killer? |
| 19:10 |
PenguinDad |
I love how stable debian is >:( |
| 19:11 |
JMiahMan |
PenguinDad: I role with Fedora, no issues here |
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| 19:12 |
Calinou |
buildaworld.net wants to download a .swf file. “wow, great graphics†was my reaction |
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* JMiahMan |
is debating on what's for lunch.. |
| 19:14 |
jp |
This project looks very nice, Calinou. |
| 19:14 |
JMiahMan |
Hey I noticed there's all these Windows builds for things, why isn't there any linux builds or rpms? |
| 19:15 |
LemonLake |
because nobody likes us so we have to compile ourselves |
| 19:15 |
LemonLake |
it also saves time for the devs having to compile per-distro |
| 19:15 |
Calinou |
jp, Terasology has similar, if not better graphics |
| 19:15 |
LemonLake |
with windows, its just 'get this windows copy' |
| 19:16 |
LemonLake |
since they mostly all work the same |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
http://terasology.org/ and https://github.com/movingblocks/terasology |
| 19:16 |
JMiahMan |
well technically you could do static binary builds for Linux |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
Java, free/libre |
| 19:16 |
jp |
Calinou : Terasology have probably a larger devs-team than MT, right ? |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
no real gameplay for now, but has great graphics, but is slow |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
smaller, probably |
| 19:17 |
jp |
?! |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
mostly 2 or 3 devs |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
but they have shader pros for sure, like we have RealBadAngel here :D |
| 19:17 |
JMiahMan |
I bet those binaries would be huge though |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
JMiahMan, what's wrong with building yourself? |
| 19:18 |
jp |
We really need welcome shader pros, so... |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
it's not like it's complicated |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
jp, the progress we could do is reflective/refractive water, entity shadows |
| 19:18 |
JMiahMan |
Have you built minetest-next |
| 19:19 |
JMiahMan |
Because I am lazy and I would rather have it all in one package :P |
| 19:19 |
PenguinDad |
JMiahMan: you don't have to build minetest_next |
| 19:19 |
JMiahMan |
ie. a deb or in my case a RPM |
| 19:20 |
JMiahMan |
PenguinDad: yes from my understanding you have to build the latest git pull of minetest |
| 19:20 |
jp |
Calinou : btw, terasology & buildaworld are modding-modulable as MT ? |
| 19:21 |
JMiahMan |
It would be nice if they were just packaged together so you don't have to worry about grabbing a non working version of get as it should be a moving target |
| 19:21 |
JMiahMan |
* git |
| 19:22 |
Megaf__ |
[16:10:50] <PenguinDad> I love how stable debian is >:( |
| 19:22 |
Megaf__ |
me too, it never crashes, I keep it running for months without a single reboot or even X restart |
| 19:22 |
Megaf__ |
[16:10:39] <JMiahMan> Megaf__: on any pain killer? |
| 19:23 |
Megaf__ |
They are not working really well |
| 19:23 |
PenguinDad |
copy pasting things into minetest crashes my terminal |
| 19:23 |
JMiahMan |
Megaf__: sorry to hear that |
| 19:23 |
jp |
debian-stable packages are covered with dust... |
| 19:23 |
Megaf__ |
it was really hard to get my tooth away |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
jp, Terasology is a bit moddable |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
they have an IRC channel, #terasology |
| 19:23 |
Megaf__ |
he had to remove lots of bone and separate the ooth in 3 parts |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
mods are done in Java too, but I'm not sure |
| 19:23 |
Megaf__ |
[16:23:11] <PenguinDad> copy pasting things into minetest crashes my terminal |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
there's at least some kind of module system, it isn't entirely monolithic :D |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
<JMiahMan> Have you built minetest-next |
| 19:24 |
Megaf__ |
Not Debian-'s fault, but minetest fault |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
nope, I'm the Carbone developer ;) |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
easy to download a game; you don't have to compile it |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
eg. you get Minetest Git, compile it, download Carbone, put it in the “gamesâ€Â directory, run the game, switch to Carbone with the green C button in the games list and you're done. |
| 19:26 |
JMiahMan |
Calinou: I'm debating or weather or not to make an rpm. When I install a game I install it on 4 Fedora boxes, so I just build rpms and go from there. I'm using F20 and F19 and have a build server for such tasks. I just don't want to spend a ton of time hunting things down making sure the git pull hasn't been broken in some way etc.. |
| 19:26 |
JMiahMan |
Just trying to decide if it's worth it, I am already running a minetest server |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
I think it'll be sunny tomorrow. |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
you talked about weather ;) |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
JMiahMan, write something like my one-line script that you pass around |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
(but for Fedora) |
| 19:27 |
JMiahMan |
wrong weather |
| 19:28 |
JMiahMan |
to build an RPM? Or to just compile? |
| 19:29 |
JMiahMan |
speaking or weather it should be 109 today, and tomorrow 108 so it will be sunny |
| 19:30 |
Calinou |
108°C tomorrow here. |
| 19:31 |
Calinou |
Celsius vs Fahrenheit :p |
| 19:31 |
JMiahMan |
you mean 39 |
| 19:31 |
Calinou |
not 39°C here, thankfully |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
18°C morning, 27°C afternoon, 27°C evening, 19°C night |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
sunny all day |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
almost no wind |
| 19:32 |
JMiahMan |
Nice |
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Megaf__ |
my mouth is like a basket ball |
| 19:40 |
coagen |
PenguinDad, JMiahMan archlinux has four diff versions of minetest in the package manager |
| 19:40 |
hoodedice |
ohoy, 0.4.10 out by 6 July |
| 19:40 |
hoodedice |
? |
| 19:40 |
coagen |
hoodedice: July 16 afaik |
| 19:40 |
Megaf__ |
!up 177.18.182.124 30001 |
| 19:40 |
MinetestBot |
177.18.182.124:30001 is up (229ms) |
| 19:40 |
Megaf__ |
^ PenguinDad |
| 19:41 |
PenguinDad |
hoodedice: o/ |
| 19:41 |
hoodedice |
lon time no see PenguinDad |
| 19:41 |
hoodedice |
\o |
| 19:41 |
JMiahMan |
coagen: what 4 versions? |
| 19:42 |
coagen |
JMiahMan: would be nice to have MT versions in other distros, I think its a great idea to do build RPM |
| 19:42 |
JMiahMan |
coagen: Fedora has Minetest by default, that's how I found it. I did a search for minecraft and it came up :P |
| 19:43 |
coagen |
JMiahMan: community/minetest + 3 aur versions: aur/minetest-classic aur/minetest-git aur/minetest-git-leveldb, and there are actually more that I would not count as seperate versions, but they differ slightly |
| 19:44 |
JMiahMan |
classic doesn't differ slightly, it differs a lot :P |
| 19:44 |
JMiahMan |
That's my next server I'm bringing up is a minetest-classic server |
| 19:45 |
coagen |
JMiahMan: hah! ok sounds good, then my advice is if you want to use mods like Carbone and Minetest_Next you'll need the git or dev version, but otherwise the release version 0.4.9 should work fine |
| 19:46 |
JMiahMan |
I'll just grab and build a rpm for git based off the fedora src rpm |
| 19:47 |
JMiahMan |
What's the best mob mod? I'm running simple mobs (I think it's called) on my current server is there anything better? |
| 19:48 |
coagen |
JMiahMan: cant say I like the mob mods I've tried, but I like the mobs in the "Lord of the Test" game |
| 19:49 |
JMiahMan |
Lord of the Test? Okay I'll look that up |
| 19:50 |
coagen |
JMiahMan: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5578 |
| 19:51 |
JMiahMan |
Already there |
| 19:51 |
JMiahMan |
There seems to be only one screenshot of a mob, looks cool though |
| 19:52 |
JMiahMan |
https://github.com/Amaz1/Lord-of-the-Test/wiki/Mobs |
| 19:52 |
coagen |
JMiahMan: there are lots of mobs! |
| 19:53 |
JMiahMan |
Wow these are great I wonder how the AI is |
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kaeza |
evenings |
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JMiahMan |
huh it has horses |
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coagen |
JMiahMan: awesome! glad you like it |
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sfan5 |
PenguinDad: y no https://mediacru.sh ? |
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* kaeza |
pets sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
purrs |
| 20:23 |
LemonLake |
+sfan5 |
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jp |
https://mediacru.sh/fi3l-rOI0Ecx |
| 20:24 |
LemonLake |
fancy |
| 20:26 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: just for you https://cdn.mediacru.sh/mJsgml_c5hYT.png |
| 20:26 |
LemonLake |
fancy |
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coagen |
just a curiosity, why do so many here seem to use mediacru.sh? instead of imgur or other services |
| 20:38 |
LemonLake |
thats what i thoughtg |
| 20:38 |
LemonLake |
but apparently they all have flaws |
| 20:38 |
LemonLake |
+ are commonly blocked by kids parental controls |
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| 20:39 |
coagen |
ah |
| 20:41 |
LemonLake |
japanese singing is so hot |
| 20:41 |
coagen |
hmm, imgur is hosted in Cali, as well as mediacru.sh |
| 20:42 |
kaeza |
<coagen> just a curiosity, why do so many here seem to use mediacru.sh? instead of imgur or other services |
| 20:42 |
coagen |
LemonLake: jpop your top? |
| 20:42 |
kaeza |
just the usual (silly) argument: "imgur is closed source hurr durr" |
| 20:43 |
LemonLake |
not a fan of that sort of stuff |
| 20:43 |
coagen |
Cumulatively, over the lifetime of MediaCrush, the operating profit is $-2664.26. |
| 20:43 |
coagen |
wow |
| 20:43 |
coagen |
https://blog.mediacru.sh/2014/04/01/Transparency-reports-and-a-million-visitors.html |
| 20:44 |
coagen |
is mediacru.sh open source or something? |
| 20:44 |
coagen |
kaeza: ? |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
https://mediacru.sh/docs/ |
| 20:44 |
LemonLake |
first gigf is anime |
| 20:44 |
LemonLake |
i fuckin love it |
| 20:45 |
LemonLake |
omg i think i know her |
| 20:45 |
coagen |
https://blog.mediacru.sh/2013/11/21/How-we-open-sourced-our-startup.html I think I found it... |
| 20:45 |
kaeza |
coagen, https://github.com/MediaCrush/MediaCrush |
| 20:45 |
coagen |
kaeza: thx! |
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coagen |
Our servers and our dev machines both run Arch Linux |
| 20:45 |
coagen |
awesome |
| 20:46 |
coagen |
ok, well I'm sold on it now |
| 20:46 |
coagen |
haha |
| 20:46 |
LemonLake |
wait |
| 20:46 |
LemonLake |
she looks like kyou! |
| 20:46 |
LemonLake |
is that kyou? |
| 20:46 |
LemonLake |
that's the anime im corrently watching :P |
| 20:47 |
LemonLake |
https://mediacru.sh/suvAyqUZjNZg someone confirm this is kyou? |
| 20:47 |
LemonLake |
https://mediacru.sh/htNd4ZEN3nAa that's her...identical |
| 20:47 |
LemonLake |
mediacrush owner is a clannad fan <3 |
| 20:48 |
coagen |
LemonLake: not the expert here, but looks pretty damn similiar |
| 20:48 |
LemonLake |
im watching that anime right now, thats how i knew it was kyou :P |
| 20:49 |
LemonLake |
just started After Story (season 2 of it) |
| 20:49 |
coagen |
wow they're running a tor relay and .onion site too... jeez these guys are awesome |
| 20:55 |
coagen |
one thing I'm not quite certian on is, once upon a time, imgur used to be just for hosting and not browsing, but then went to a browsing mode that added commenting as well... wonder if mediacru.sh will do this... |
| 20:55 |
LemonLake |
idk |
| 20:55 |
LemonLake |
thats what i like about imgur |
| 20:55 |
LemonLake |
its fun |
| 20:58 |
nore |
https://github.com/ethic-rush/custom/blob/master/chatcommand.lua#L8 <-- dangerous code ahead! |
| 20:59 |
coagen |
huh, just saw this video about tesseract, that is wicked: http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/tesseract-a-brand-new-open-source-fps-derived-from-cube-2-sauerbraten.3683 |
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coagen |
nore: os.execute("sudo restart mt")? |
| 21:06 |
coagen |
nore: are you running minetest as root??? :\ |
| 21:06 |
nore |
not me |
| 21:06 |
nore |
the one running this server |
| 21:06 |
nore |
that's why I said that code is dangerous |
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| 21:06 |
coagen |
nore: only if the user can sudo without password |
| 21:06 |
nore |
well, if he needed a password |
| 21:07 |
LemonLake |
it'd be in the code, right? |
| 21:07 |
nore |
then the command wouldn't work |
| 21:07 |
nore |
and then, it would be useless |
| 21:07 |
nore |
but that means that for example, if WE is installed |
| 21:07 |
Megaf |
Hi everyone, I need some help with nodeeditor. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2840&p=147003#p147003 |
| 21:08 |
coagen |
nore: interesting code though, I wonder what other uses for os.execute could be useful.... |
| 21:08 |
nore |
users with enough privileges can do things like os.execute("sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /") |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
it could also block the server indefinitely |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
because os.execute *waits* until sudo exits |
| 21:08 |
nore |
well, anyway, that code is way too dangerous |
| 21:08 |
LemonLake |
+kaeza |
| 21:08 |
coagen |
nore: you could os.execute ip route blackhole chinaip/8 hehe |
| 21:09 |
LemonLake |
welcome to the world of lazy server admins |
| 21:09 |
nore |
it looks like the admin can't use ssh |
| 21:09 |
nore |
or even simpler, as VanessaE does: |
| 21:09 |
nore |
restart the server automatically |
| 21:09 |
nore |
and then, just use /shutdown... |
| 21:10 |
coagen |
forums just poop on iteself? |
| 21:10 |
LemonLake |
^ |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
O_o |
| 21:10 |
coagen |
im getting 502 |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
^ |
| 21:10 |
LemonLake |
^ |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
^_^ |
| 21:11 |
LemonLake |
._____. / |
| 21:11 |
coagen |
someone must have done (os.execute("sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /") |
| 21:11 |
LemonLake |
sounds like my kind of command |
| 21:11 |
kaeza |
--no-preserve-root is useless |
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kaeza |
just use /* :3 |
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* coagen |
nods |
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coagen |
I'm not the only one getting 502 right? |
| 21:13 |
LemonLake |
nein |
| 21:13 |
LemonLake |
ã„ã„㈠|
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jp |
https://forum.minetest.net/ |
| 21:16 |
jp |
WTF ? |
| 21:17 |
coagen |
jp: something broke... |
| 21:20 |
Megaf |
jp: thats what they get for using nginx |
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Megaf |
=/ |
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Megaf |
I see that a lot on a lot of nginx servers |
| 21:21 |
coagen |
hah |
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jordan4ibanez |
502 bad gateway for forum? |
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EvergreenTree |
yep |
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kaeza |
c55 is already informed |
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EvergreenTree |
c55 looks like a "1337" speek version of css |
| 21:27 |
EvergreenTree |
:P |
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LemonLake |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klUfRsd20gE |
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LemonLake |
so beautiful |
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coagen |
so |
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Exio |
\o/ hi |
| 21:31 |
coagen |
today servers.minetest.net and forums.minetest.net go down.. :| |
| 21:32 |
coagen |
hi Exio |
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coagen |
could these two things connected... |
| 21:35 |
coagen |
looks to be a dns issue for forums.minetest.net |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix memory leaks in GenericCAO, ShaderSource and Player classes b8343cd 2014-07-02T23:33:18+02:00 http://git.io/bhApMw |
| 21:43 |
jp |
Probably a hack ? |
| 21:44 |
coagen |
jp: can't say yet, but the A record for forums.minetest.net is defiently missing... |
| 21:45 |
coagen |
so maybe a problem with the DNS at afraid.org... :\ |
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LemonLake |
is jordan4ibanez on a phone connection? |
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LemonLake |
it would explain the constant reconnections |
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jordan4ibanez |
Crashing |
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LemonLake |
wtf |
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LemonLake |
is there a blackout or something |
| 22:31 |
kaeza |
forums are back \o/ |
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WindHero |
looking at the irc logs... |
| 22:46 |
WindHero |
it appears that the forums were down too earlier? |
| 22:47 |
LemonLake |
ã¯ã„ |
| 22:48 |
WindHero |
also, any idea why kaeza isn't marked as a moderator on the forum? :/ |
| 22:49 |
kaeza |
ninja skills |
| 22:49 |
Exio |
he is a CIA agent |
| 22:49 |
kaeza |
<.< |
| 22:49 |
WindHero |
ah, I see |
| 22:49 |
WindHero |
actually, no I don't. :P |
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jordan4ibanez |
It works |
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kaeza |
I can change my title :P |
| 22:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
It's a christmas miracle |
| 22:51 |
kaeza |
WindHero, I'm still here tho' https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=group&g=9 |
| 22:51 |
WindHero |
ah, that's good to know :) |
| 23:03 |
LemonLake |
the suspense murders |
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LemonLake |
but i really must sleep |
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LemonLake |
ã•ã‚ˆã†ãªã‚‰ï¼ |
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WindHero |
Success! https://mediacru.sh/eI12bPywBO68 |
| 23:43 |
WindHero |
current gen time: 100-150 ms |
| 23:43 |
WindHero |
wonder how much it'll jump when I add biomes... |
| 23:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can the antialiasing be adjusted? |
| 23:47 |
WindHero |
hmm |
| 23:47 |
WindHero |
yeah, sorry, I was using a small window size |
| 23:47 |
WindHero |
I'll snap a more detailed pic |
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WindHero |
uploadin now |
| 23:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
No I meant in the settings conf |
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jordan4ibanez |
That is pretty cool though |
| 23:52 |
WindHero |
https://mediacru.sh/Lof8CGCZom-e |
| 23:52 |
WindHero |
oh |
| 23:52 |
WindHero |
good question, would have to look in minetest.conf.example |
| 23:52 |
WindHero |
that has EVERYTHING |
| 23:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol you can ban yourself in singleplayer |
| 23:58 |
WindHero |
unfortunately, yes |
| 23:58 |
WindHero |
to get back in, you have to edit the world files... |
