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00:11 paramat hi, thats cool!
00:13 * paramat is late night cooking in the UK
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00:30 paramat hmmmm, because each tunnel is formed from the intersection of 2 'sheets' of 3D noise, the 3D noises can be switched to create differing mixes of 2D 'fissures' and 1D tunnels. 3 3D noises can create 4 underground 'biomes': 2 tunnel systems. 1 tunnel system, 1 fissure. 2 fissures. 3 fissures.
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00:38 paramat i also find the tunnels don't need a lot of octaves to look good, the smallest octave's spread is 48 nodes, makes them rather smooth but i like that abstract form (i will now develop my mod with the biomes feature)
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00:46 paramat it was good to find out that's how caves were done in mgv5
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00:58 Zeno` speaking of which, is there an easy way to "visualise" the perlin noise that MT generates?
00:59 Zeno` I understand Perlin and Simplex noise (written the code for them myself several times) but it's still hard -- for me -- to visualise what MT is doing
01:00 Zeno` I use a dummy (RAM) database and replace air with stone, but maybe there's a better way
01:07 paramat i just write a quick fast generating lua mod
01:10 Zeno` and put stuff in the air?
01:10 Zeno` or just inspect it wherever things are generated?
01:15 paramat yes nodes in air or voids underground
01:16 paramat but now im usually able to visualise noises in my head, that is often the easiest way
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02:23 WindHero VanessaE
02:24 VanessaE hi
02:24 WindHero Thanks for all the work you've done on HDX's support for CaveRealms
02:24 WindHero it looks marvelous :3
02:24 VanessaE no prob
02:24 * WindHero gives VanessaE a kitten in thanks
02:25 VanessaE aw :)
02:25 * VanessaE hugs and cuddles the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile
02:25 Zeno` I didn't get a kittie!
02:25 WindHero Zeno told me you spent a lot of time on the crystals and icicles in particular
02:25 WindHero oops
02:26 * WindHero gives Zeno` a kitten too
02:26 VanessaE grab one from the pile, Zeno` - it's always overflowing :)
02:26 Zeno` thanks. I don't like cats though
02:26 WindHero :o
02:26 VanessaE WindHero: the icicles weren't hard, but those glow crystals were a bitch :)
02:26 WindHero careful, words like those can get you kicked, Zeno
02:26 WindHero jk
02:26 WindHero I can imagine...
02:27 WindHero but I really like how they look now
02:27 WindHero even with just 16x16 textures the crystals were hard
02:27 WindHero crystals just aren't meant to be cubic :P
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02:38 Dafull97 swag out
02:39 paramat since minetest has a 'cubic cosmology' i would expect at least some cubic crystals ;)
02:39 Dafull97 VanessaE, remember me? :P
02:40 VanessaE hi
02:40 VanessaE yes I remember you
02:40 Dafull97 been forever :)
02:40 * Zeno` carefully places the kitten back into the pile
02:43 Dafull97 CraigyDavi`, isn't it you  that me and my cuz griefed your server? :?
02:44 Dafull97 sorry man if it was... i told you sorry already but i still feel bad
02:45 Dafull97 So question is mintest growing or staying the same?
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02:49 WindHero growing
02:53 Dafull97 can you show me stats?
02:53 Dafull97 :D
02:54 WindHero hmm
02:54 WindHero I would have to do some searching to find those
02:56 ShadowNinja http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=Minetest
02:56 ShadowNinja Dafull97, WindHero: ^
02:57 Dafull97 :)
02:58 ShadowNinja The release should bump that up a bit.
02:58 Dafull97 i see :)
02:58 WindHero that's pretty cool
02:58 ShadowNinja Nothing major though.  Feel free to advertize.  :-)
02:59 WindHero I certainly try
03:00 WindHero when I play Pokemon TCG with some friends 60 miles away, I test the waters with people who play video games
03:00 Dafull97 how  to download on linux the easiest way?
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03:01 ShadowNinja Dafull97: Your package manager.  apt-get/pacman/yum/etc.
03:02 Nerotic yum lol
03:03 Dafull97 apt-get then
03:03 Dafull97 ok :P
03:05 Dafull97 are there "monsters" on Minetest i don't remember tgh
03:05 Dafull97 tbh*
03:06 WindHero not really
03:06 WindHero only with mods
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03:06 WindHero PilzAdam's Simple Mobs or any of the million offshoots of it is a good place to start
03:06 WindHero (exaggeration for effect)
03:08 VanessaE there is in Nostalgia game als
03:08 VanessaE also
03:08 WindHero yeah, the 2D mobs
03:09 WindHero Dungeon Master, Oerkki, and rat
03:09 VanessaE yup
03:09 Nerotic I love Oerkki
03:09 Nerotic What does that name even mean?
03:09 Dafull97 oh ok
03:10 VanessaE good question, been wondering that myself
03:11 Nerotic I'll ask c55 whenever he becomes available.
03:11 Nerotic Hey Vanessa, how many people, do you think, use Dreambuilder?
03:12 VanessaE no clue
03:12 Nerotic *play not use
03:12 VanessaE not many though I guess
03:12 Nerotic I used to play it instead of regular minetest for a few months and then i decided to make my own subgame.
03:14 Nerotic Vanessa, assuming by your profile pic, you are an adult, so do you still have any of the old computers you had(if) as a kid?
03:14 VanessaE I still have my Commodore 128 on the desk to my left, and a C64 in the closet as well.
03:15 Nerotic I only have my Commodore 64.
03:15 Nerotic Where you ever one to connect to BBS's?
03:17 VanessaE yeah, years ago
03:17 Nerotic Ah, same.
03:18 Nerotic i still connect to some every now and then that are still up but nobody posts on the Bulletin anymore, so I read old messages
03:19 Zeno` I spent a LOT of time on BBSs hehe
03:20 Dafull97 waiting on My computer to update then update minetest then play :D
03:20 Nerotic bbl
03:28 kaeza DERP
03:28 kaeza trying to fix a bug where entries in the database were not found... only to find I was using the wrong DB file
03:29 * kaeza facepalms
03:29 WindHero :x
03:29 WindHero I've done worse :P
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03:38 highrise9999 Hello.
03:39 highrise9999 I've been having some difficulties with connecting to servers.
03:41 Zeno` kaeza, in on_construct() for register_node can I undo the placement of the node, or is the node actually not placed?
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03:43 highrise9999 From the main menu, when I enter a number into the address field, I receive the error message "[. . .]minetest/builtin/mainmenu.lua:515: attempt to index a nil value"
03:43 highrise9999 I took a look at the file, and it appears it has something to do with menu.favorites
03:44 highrise9999 In addition, when I check the public server list, minetest crashes within a few seconds.
03:44 highrise9999 If it helps, I'm running on Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit
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04:31 WindHero that refers to celeron55
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04:37 WindHero @DaFull: everyone got DC'd
04:37 WindHero because of some sort of network switch or other I don't understand :P
04:41 Dafull97 WindHero, netsplit where server got dc'd for a few seconds
04:41 Dafull97 which caused everyone to dc'd
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04:57 hummeleBop Hello there!
05:04 Dafull97 Hello
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07:13 nman3600 Hi
07:15 nman3600 Is 0.4.10 of minetest coming out soon?
07:16 nman3600 sfan5, Is it?
07:18 RealBadAngel next sunday
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07:23 asl next sunday is 13 july?
07:25 RealBadAngel 6th
07:25 * Zeno` hopes RBA made Zeno`'s suggest minor fix
07:26 Zeno` it won't make a difference of course lol
07:26 RealBadAngel what fix?
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07:26 Zeno` I can't even remember... something about if {} if {}  vs.  if {} else if {}
07:27 Zeno` oh
07:27 Zeno` in l-systems maybe, but not sure
07:27 Zeno` it wasn't particularly important
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07:31 OldCoder Yo
07:31 OldCoder Who rang?
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07:34 asl RealBadAngel: isn't 6th this sunday?
07:35 RealBadAngel next is the one to come, isnt it?
07:36 RealBadAngel in polish we dont call weekend to come "this" until it comes
07:36 RealBadAngel anyway, 6th is the date
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07:45 VanessaE we call it "next weekend" when it's reasonably far away, even if less than 7 days
07:46 VanessaE and "this weekend" usually refers to that same weekend, but only if it's say 1-2 days away.
07:47 VanessaE ("this" is also used to refer to a preceding weekend, e.g. "this past weekend" would be Sat/Sun June 28/29)
07:49 VanessaE "this coming" may sometimes be used to differentiate a point in time less than 7 days away (weekend or not), from the same day a week later.
07:50 VanessaE and there you have it.  American time/date codes in plain english.  thus endeth this morning's lesson :)
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07:53 RealBadAngel :) ok ok, 6th just
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07:57 hoodedice Hey RealBadAngel, sup?
08:26 RealBadAngel hoodedice, not much, fixing some bugs as usual ;)
08:31 nore RealBadAngel, could you fix the faces shading bug?
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08:48 RealBadAngel nore, prv
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11:50 MinetestBot GIT: arsdragonfly commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Don't create bones if the player's inventory is empty f4594af 2014-07-01T13:48:03+02:00 http://git.io/GKUs_g
11:50 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Fix semitransparent pixel in bread's texture. 8a0d51b 2014-07-01T13:41:44+02:00 http://git.io/xkfSkw
11:50 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Fix papyurs texture 1d8247e 2014-07-01T13:35:32+02:00 http://git.io/OyXfig
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13:21 sfan5 meow
13:21 sfan5 hi everyone
13:23 VanessaE morning sfan5  :)
13:23 sfan5 :3
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13:30 coagen my kid was playing mt yesterday in creative mode, figured out how to set trees on fire... :|
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13:31 VanessaE oops
13:32 coagen I laughed but, something in me just doesn't feel good about that
13:32 sfan5 you can disable fire
13:32 coagen maybe I can show how to plant trees
13:33 coagen we've seen the saplings drop
13:33 coagen any idea how long a sapling takes to grow to tree ingame?
13:33 coagen sfan5: thats not a bad idea either heh
13:33 sfan5 <coagen> any idea how long a sapling takes to grow to tree ingame?
13:33 sfan5 might take 15 seconds or 5 minutes
13:33 sfan5 pretty random
13:33 coagen thats what I thought
13:35 coagen kid also built the first lvl of a house, w/door yesterday too, so there are good things, i'm quite proud
13:35 sfan5 doors \o/
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13:45 PenguinDad I like how useless the addition of deepstone/bedrock is in carbone
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13:53 CraigyDavi` Dafull97, yes that is correct
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14:05 VanessaE bbl
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15:00 nman3600 Hi
15:00 nman3600 In the mesecons mod does mese block work like redstone block from minecraft?
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15:03 nman3600 :( it doesn't
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15:06 LemonLake nope
15:06 LemonLake but i heard it doing a similar behaviour before
15:06 LemonLake you can make it do so with a simple change, or another mod
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15:09 Krock hi
15:09 LemonLake is there a mesecons timer?
15:09 LemonLake so that it has a delay, and triggers everything around it one-by-one
15:09 Krock new Request.MoveTopic("base_game", "Modding General", "Minetest Games");
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15:12 LemonLake does anyone here like electro swing?
15:14 * Krock gives sfan5 his latesst message
15:14 * sfan5 meows
15:15 LemonLake sfan5: こんにちは
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15:15 LemonLake do you have a japanese keyboard?
15:15 * Krock takes a whisk y
15:16 sfan5 LemonLake: はい!
15:16 LemonLake lucky
15:16 LemonLake but this is pretty good: http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/japanese.php
15:16 LemonLake I'm probably going to invest in one
15:17 sfan5 uh
15:17 asie i need to invest in learning the language
15:17 LemonLake its not as hard as it seems
15:17 asie also a thinkpad x200 keyboard replacement
15:17 sfan5 I don' have a hardware JP keyboard
15:17 LemonLake ah I see
15:17 sfan5 I use https://code.google.com/p/mozc/
15:18 LemonLake okay, screw that, I'm getting mozc
15:18 LemonLake I overlooked that on my google for a japanese software keyboard :P
15:18 LemonLake was this made by google themselves? it has the same icon as the google's android japan keyboard
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15:20 asie LemonLake: any tips?
15:20 asie also it is a fork
15:20 LemonLake no tips, but if you want to learn it I recommend getting an app called 'Memrise'
15:20 LemonLake the web version isn't as good but the app is really good in helping you learn the language as well as helping you remember it
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15:24 LemonLake Guest91532: kashikoi...
15:25 LemonLake uwot
15:25 LemonLake what did i just do
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15:25 Krock 5 posts rmain
15:25 Krock +a
15:25 Krock -a+e
15:26 LemonLake * WHOIS :This command could not be completed because it has been used recently, and is rate-limited.
15:26 LemonLake * [wut] End of WHOIS list.
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15:26 LemonLake whiskers, your bot is having some issues
15:26 LemonLake is it okay?
15:28 asie LemonLake: forget about apps, i don't use a smartphone
15:29 asie and am not planning to
15:29 LemonLake well the web version is terrible
15:29 asie okay so that's out
15:29 LemonLake so, im out of tips
15:29 LemonLake ask sfan5
15:29 asie snyan5?
15:30 LemonLake スファン is probably the closest to sfan
15:30 LemonLake that's sufan
15:33 sfan5 LemonLake: hm?
15:34 LemonLake nothing
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15:40 asie sfan5: i'm asking for tips as i finally want to start learning japanese as i have my summer vacation time now
15:40 asie and i don't want to waste the 61 days left
15:40 asie so i at least want to kickstart it
15:41 LemonLake sfan5: can you explain to me how to use mozc?
15:41 sfan5 space+tab
15:41 sfan5 type stuff
15:41 sfan5 it will make suggestions
15:41 sfan5 use up/down keys
15:41 LemonLake hmm
15:41 LemonLake nothing is going on
15:42 LemonLake oh, it wants a restart.
15:43 sfan5 asie: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2​006/01/30/for-the-complete-beginner/ and https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkKN​c3AYP5sOv23FRjBoCs2dDzHN83BuT1T_aRU21t0
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15:44 Krock ehm... how can I force to load a specific mod before all other?
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15:47 LemonLake put it in depends
15:48 Krock depends ofwhat
15:49 LemonLake a mod that it doesnt depend on
15:49 Krock aha
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15:53 markv Hi!
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16:20 LemonLake sfan5: I can't start the mozc ibus
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16:34 rubenwardy Hi all!
16:35 sfan5 LemonLake: which os?
16:36 LemonLake mint 16
16:36 LemonLake im looking into it now
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16:43 Krock sfan5, MoveRequest.Retry();
16:45 Krock !rev Lagerregal
16:45 MinetestBot lagerregaL
16:45 LemonLake I think I've got it.
16:45 Krock !rev rentner
16:45 MinetestBot rentner
16:46 Krock leohortetrohoel
16:47 Krock !rev leohortetrohoel
16:47 MinetestBot leohortetrohoel
16:47 LemonLake withcraft
16:47 LemonLake witchcraft
16:47 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
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16:48 LemonLake can I get the ibus icon to appear without having to restart?
16:48 sfan5 no
16:48 LemonLake bender
16:48 Nerotic flender
16:49 sfan5 LemonLake: ニャー https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_3jOam8IDem7.jpg
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16:49 LemonLake かわいい
16:50 sfan5 LemonLake: 猫です!
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16:55 LemonLake Did a restart, still not appearing
16:57 * markv is calculating massive fucking ip ranges
16:58 markv about 20 /4 blocks and tons of /8 ones
16:58 Calinou か NEXUIZ
16:58 LemonLake this is nerving my nerves
16:58 markv 443 MB already
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16:59 markv 800MB
16:59 markv Houston, we have 1Gig of text!
17:05 * markv loads a 3GB text file
17:06 sfan5 LemonLake: did you configure it to appear?
17:08 LemonLake it works now, yes
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17:09 Amaz Krock, Windows build of https://github.com/Amaz1/min​etest/tree/gsmapper-uptodate please? (If you feel like it...) Just gsmapper updated to the latest minetest git.
17:09 Krock k.
17:09 Amaz Thanks!
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17:13 Amaz (Knowing my luck, there will be a massive commit soon now!)
17:15 proller Amaz, can you fix all issues of mapper
17:15 proller ?
17:15 Amaz Nope.
17:16 Amaz Just bring it up to date.
17:16 LemonLake "connecting to an incompatible conversion engine please restart your comuter to enable mozc if this problem persists please bust a nut"
17:16 * Amaz doesn't know c/c++
17:17 Calinou C# then
17:17 * Calinou runs
17:18 * Amaz doesn't use windows. Or know C# for that matter!
17:18 LemonLake I have restarted many a time.
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17:20 Krock Amaz, are the fails which I posted fixed yet?
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17:33 Krock nope
17:33 Krock not compileable in the current state
17:39 Amaz Krock, what do you mean?
17:39 Krock Amaz, compiling errors, see my post about the older build
17:39 Amaz Ah, right...
17:39 Amaz I though you built it though?
17:40 Krock errors can only be solved by fixing the stuff..so I did
17:40 Krock bugs expected
17:40 Amaz Okay.
17:40 Amaz I need to go for ~30 mins now...
17:41 Krock ok. when you have luck, it will be done then
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17:52 Krock I hate cmake
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17:52 Krock a typo and I must recompile everything again
17:55 Amaz Krock, should I just replace it with your fix?
17:56 Krock Amaz, let's see if my newer version works better than the old
17:56 Amaz Okay.
17:56 Krock using "myround(x - 0.5)"
17:56 Krock instead of floor
17:56 Amaz Right.
17:56 Amaz If it works, I'll add it to github.
17:56 Krock k
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17:58 Amaz I'm not sure if you've seen Inoducom's request in your thread!
17:58 * Amaz only just saw it!
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18:27 Amaz Any luck Krock?
18:27 Krock yes. after switching a byte from 1 to 0 I haev to recompile from scratch again
18:27 Krock *bit
18:27 Amaz Poor you...
18:27 Krock yeah
18:27 Amaz How long does it take to compile?
18:28 Krock 30 minutes (+/- 5 min)
18:28 Amaz Wow...
18:28 Krock you see how much I invest into MT
18:28 Amaz Thank you!
18:29 * Amaz won't complain about ~5 minute compiling times again!
18:29 Amaz Why isn't your thread a sticky?
18:29 Krock maybe because it wasn't the real Git when I released the first one
18:30 Amaz Okay.
18:30 Krock too much topics are sticky there
18:30 Amaz I suppose so...
18:30 Krock 4 posts remain
18:30 Amaz Could your one replace PlizAdam's?
18:31 Krock yeah. why not?
18:31 Krock good idea
18:31 Amaz Seeing as PlizAdam has stopped building for Windows...
18:31 Amaz 4 posts till what?
18:31 Krock 0x1EE7
18:32 Amaz Right!
18:33 * sfan5 meows at Krock
18:34 * Krock barks at sfan5
18:35 * Nerotic hisses at Krock
18:35 Krock aagh...gtfo freetype
18:35 Krock I disabled you!
18:35 * sfan5 flips Nerotic
18:35 * Nerotic smiles at sfan5
18:36 * sfan5 purrs
18:36 Krock "Compiling jsoncpp.cpp" omg what a nice world we life in
18:36 Amaz Nerotic, anything else added to your fork?
18:36 PenguinDad Krock: s/life/live/
18:37 Nerotic Amaz; I haven't worked on it since the last time. Currently, I am trying to fix bugs for actual Minetest.
18:37 Krock li?e
18:37 Amaz Right.
18:38 Nerotic Amaz; after the update, I'll add a few mods in, maybe actually work on the core and compile it, so it's a bit better than it is now, and get rid of things I dislike.
18:38 Amaz Okay. Will you add it to github?
18:38 Nerotic Probably.
18:39 Amaz Great!
18:39 Nerotic Why do you want it on GitHub?
18:39 Krock bitbucket!
18:39 Nerotic <3
18:39 Krock 0xG00G1EC0DE
18:40 Amaz So it is eaiser to download, fork, ect.
18:42 Krock I need a stupid topic to post on
18:42 PenguinDad Krock: Word Story :P
18:42 Nerotic Is beds already added in Minetest Next?
18:43 Krock PenguinDad, too bad. already posted there
18:43 PenguinDad Nerotic: not at the moment
18:44 Nerotic Awesome, I will pull request and add the beds mod to Minetest Next
18:44 Nerotic Hopefully, itll be accepted.
18:44 Krock beds are useless in multiplayer
18:44 Nerotic I know.
18:44 Nerotic Same with Minecraft.
18:44 Krock (except when using as decoration)
18:44 Amaz Krock: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=9655 ?
18:45 Amaz Seems stupid to me!
18:45 Krock hmm .. yeah
18:45 Amaz :P
18:46 Krock head's empy..need an other topic :/
18:48 Nerotic I just need to add the textures and it'll be pull requested.
18:48 Krock game.cpp hmm.. that should be ~1/2 of the complete game
18:49 Amaz What do you mean?
18:49 Nerotic Anyone know how to upload images to Github? o.o
18:49 Nerotic without git, using the web interface
18:49 Krock Nerotic, imposs.
18:49 sfan5 Nerotic: drag them into the comment field... uh
18:49 sfan5 dunno
18:49 sfan5 probably not possible
18:49 Nerotic Thats what i thought
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18:49 Krock git clients are useful compared to th web interface
18:49 Calinou posted Carbone's mob mod on forum
18:50 Calinou finally another mob mod :D
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18:50 Nerotic My Git will not let me login for some reason :/
18:50 Krock is YAMM still copyrighted?
18:50 Amaz Krock: Here? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=9651
18:50 Krock Nerotic, change your pass to alphanumeric chars
18:50 Krock s/chars/things
18:50 PenguinDad Calinou: you can bomb away deepstone with tnt
18:51 Nerotic it already is Krock
18:51 Nerotic I will uninstall it and install it again, maybe itll work
18:51 Krock yeha
18:53 Nerotic still not allowing me, google time.
18:53 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9656
18:53 Calinou PenguinDad, not a bug
18:53 Calinou bedrock should be truly unreakable, deepstone is supposed to be breakable
18:53 Calinou but hard to break with normal tools
18:53 Calinou TNT isn't a normal tool :p
18:53 Calinou same for dig arrow
18:53 Calinou <Krock> is YAMM still copyrighted?
18:54 Calinou YAMM?
18:54 Krock Yet Another Mob Mod
18:54 Calinou uh
18:54 Calinou anyway, I tested my mod in minetest_game, it works, you may want to set active_block_range = 1
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18:54 Calinou for less spawns and better performance
18:55 PenguinDad Calinou: then bedrock is breakable with tnt
18:56 Calinou ah, should be fixed, but I have to go, bye
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18:59 Amaz Krock, how is the compiling coming on?
18:59 Krock minetest.dir\Release\voxelalgorithms.obj  /machine:X86
18:59 Krock it's merging them to minetet.exe
18:59 Krock latest step
18:59 Amaz Great :)
18:59 Nerotic Yeah I actually might compile today too
18:59 Amaz And do you get what this post means?
18:59 Amaz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=7&amp;t=8489&amp;p=146849#p146849
18:59 Krock sfan5, wut? why? LINK : warning LNK4075: /INCREMENTAL wird aufgrund der Angabe von /LTCG ignoriet
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19:00 Krock NOOOOO
19:00 Krock we lost against Argentinia 0:1
19:00 Nerotic For easier compiling, Id upload my copy to github, and run this:
19:00 Nerotic https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
19:00 Nerotic changing the github URL's of course
19:08 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Update only moving boats 06ef070 2014-07-01T21:04:59+02:00 http://git.io/xKTMvA
19:09 Krock Verstrichene Zeit 00:32:41.31
19:09 Nerotic bbl
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19:13 Krock Amaz, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&amp;t=9515&amp;p=146851#p146851
19:15 Amaz Krock, Great, thanks!
19:15 Krock np
19:21 * PenguinDad doesn't care about gsmapper at all
19:22 * Amaz does
19:22 * Krock gives PenguinDad http://i.imgur.com/rHDseEx.png
19:23 * sfan5 gives Krock https://mediacru.sh/_3jOam8IDem7
19:23 Krock MEOW
19:23 sfan5 no
19:23 sfan5 it's nyan!
19:23 PenguinDad nayn!
19:24 Jordach nyan
19:24 * sfan5 nyans at Jordach and curl up to his lap
19:25 * PenguinDad miaus at Krock
19:25 Krock so. good night. tomorrow is a long day
19:32 Amaz !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
19:32 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down
19:32 Amaz :(
19:32 * sfan5 purrs at Amaz
19:32 * Amaz gives sfan5 a mouse
19:33 * sfan5 noms it
19:35 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
19:35 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down
19:35 Amaz What are bumpmaps for?
19:35 Megaf Amaz; actually its up
19:35 Megaf the minetest server list is down
19:35 Amaz Right!
19:36 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
19:36 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down
19:38 PenguinDad !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30005
19:38 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 is up (110ms)
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19:57 Amaz Hi WindHero!
19:57 WindHero hey Amaz!
19:57 WindHero how goes it?
19:58 Amaz Fine thanks!
19:58 Amaz What about you?
19:58 WindHero good
19:58 WindHero gonna aim for CaveRealms v0.3 today
19:59 Amaz Awesome!
19:59 WindHero get rid of those chunk border cutoffs
19:59 WindHero provided it doesn't create too much generation lag
19:59 Amaz Okay!
20:00 WindHero what you up to
20:00 WindHero *?
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20:18 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
20:18 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down
20:18 Megaf That does not makes sense at all
20:18 Megaf !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30005
20:18 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 is up (98ms)
20:19 WindHero huh
20:23 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
20:23 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down
20:23 Megaf my servers are up and running
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20:24 WindHero router troubles?
20:24 Megaf nope. servers.minetest.net is broken
20:25 Megaf ^ sfan5
20:25 WindHero ohhh
20:25 Megaf I just don't understand why it shows digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 as up
20:25 sfan5 Megaf: [20:29] <sfan5> also: http://servers.minetest.net/ is broken
20:25 sfan5 in #minetest-dev almost 2 hours ago
20:26 sfan5 I can't fix it
20:26 sfan5 only xyz can
20:26 Megaf Yep, but it shows some servers as up
20:26 Megaf hows that?
20:26 sfan5 xyz hosts it
20:26 sfan5 and we can't change the DNS either..
20:26 sfan5 >but it shows some servers as up
20:26 sfan5 wut
20:27 sfan5 if you load the web page it shown nothing at all
20:27 sfan5 !up does not use servers.minetest.net
20:27 Megaf why a person who doesnt isnt involved with minetest anymore hosts the MASTER server?
20:27 sfan5 dunno
20:28 sfan5 I'll host the new one
20:28 sfan5 but we can't change the DNS atm
20:28 Megaf xyz is always online at #Freeminer
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20:28 markv Hello peoples
20:30 sfan5 much code, very C, wow: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LoyqUBi-Ru6S.png
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20:32 kaeza that hurts my eyes :<
20:32 sfan5 what exactly?
20:32 kaeza evenings
20:32 * sfan5 meows at kaeza
20:32 kaeza >if(x)\n{
20:33 WindHero that is a ton of code indeed
20:33 coagen sfan5: what program is that?
20:33 sfan5 coagen: a program that encrypts data transparently
20:33 WindHero I can now safely say I'm not too worried about the size of CaveRealms or SkyLands
20:33 kaeza also 2 space indent
20:33 coagen sfan5: sorry, I mean the editor
20:33 sfan5 kaeza: fuck spaces, that's tab
20:33 sfan5 coagen: http://atom.io
20:34 coagen sfan5: nice thx
20:34 sfan5 kaeza: I never indent with spaces
20:34 kaeza also, what's with that uintblah_t\n\tx,\n\ty; ?
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20:34 kaeza ;_;
20:34 shadowzone hi kaeza.
20:35 sfan5 kaeza: makes it looks more organized
20:35 shadowzone hi sfan5
20:35 sfan5 hi
20:35 shadowzone I see some of my favorite mod makes are on.
20:36 sfan5 coagen: (no, I'm not using Mac OS X, you can compile it from source on linux)
20:36 kaeza sfan5, on the bright side, I approve of your fucking of spaces
20:36 coagen sfan5: haha, I thought so :)
20:36 sfan5 kaeza: tab saves file size :)
20:36 coagen sfan5: aur/atom-editor 0.106.0-2 (89)
20:36 coagen BAM!
20:36 sfan5 coagen: oh, arch user?
20:37 coagen right in the arch!
20:37 coagen :D
20:37 coagen installing now
20:37 sfan5 !c (len("    "), " (spaces) vs. ", len("\t"), " (tabs"))
20:37 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
20:37 sfan5 huh?
20:38 sfan5 !c (len("    "), " (spaces) vs. ", len("\t"), " (tabs)")
20:38 MinetestBot (4, ' (spaces) vs. ', 1, ' (tabs)')
20:38 sfan5 ^ kaeza
20:38 asl sfan5: that screenshot look like it's no more than 500 lines of code
20:38 kaeza sfan5, and tabs are flexible :3
20:38 coagen this is one of the first AMV videos I ever found, many years ago... just stumbled upon it again... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIq405sRpTk
20:38 sfan5 asie: 271 lines
20:39 WindHero only 271?
20:39 PenguinDad 4gewinnt_algorithmus.py \o/
20:39 sfan5 yep
20:39 * kaeza hides from the "tabs are 8 spaces hurr durr" haters
20:39 WindHero if you put all of CaveRealms in one file, it's some 1100
20:39 sfan5 PenguinDad: that one's hard to beat
20:39 asie sfan5: hi
20:39 * sfan5 purrs at asie
20:39 * shadowzone gets confused.
20:39 coagen atom editor is dependent on node.js? interesting
20:40 asl i am not asie lol
20:40 sfan5 coagen: atom is really just a web browser with javascript running in it
20:40 sfan5 asl: oops, sorry
20:40 coagen sfan5: yeah I saw it was "chrome" based in the desc, fascinating
20:41 coagen npm WARN package.json github-url-from-git@1.1.1 No repository field. dafuck?
20:41 kaeza I recall Allegro had a style rule where indentation was 3 spaces, but on disk, 8 spaces should be saved as a tab
20:42 kaeza so if you indented four times, you would have to save it not as 12 spaces, not 4 tabs, but one tab *and* 4 spaces
20:42 sfan5 coagen: you may want the "minimap" (the overview thing at the side), "seti-ui" and "monokai" pkg (I use those); my font is Envy Code R
20:42 sfan5 kaeza: wat
20:42 kaeza needless to say, this broke the formatting 90% of the time
20:43 kaeza unless you explicitly told your editor that one tab was 8 spaces, which almost nobody save hardcore lunatics do now
20:43 coagen ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Aborting... :(
20:43 * coagen tries other aur git version
20:44 WindHero First attempt at vertically unlimited caverealms: https://mediacru.sh/5AAwYOCYxeWC
20:44 Amaz Wow.
20:45 shadowzone My jaw just hit china from the usa.
20:45 WindHero lol
20:45 coagen kaeza: the openbsd project did code cleanup on opensssl when they created libressl using some sort of formatting tool.... I wonder what it was
20:45 WindHero spoiler: it still cut off at a chunk border :P
20:46 shadowzone That looks awesome I love it.
20:46 coagen WindHero: wow thats wicked man
20:46 WindHero thanks
20:46 sfan5 coagen: probably http://astyle.sourceforge.net/
20:47 * sfan5 goes to bed
20:47 kaeza they are more flexible now, and actually save indents as tabs
20:47 kaeza night sfan
20:47 sfan5 coagen: if the aur thing does not work just clone from git
20:47 * sfan5 really goes to bed
20:47 coagen sfan5: right, which is why I say write it and let programs format it for you, and don't care about formatting!
20:47 shadowzone Good night sfan5!
20:47 coagen sfan5: goodnight!
20:47 WindHero 'night sfan!
20:48 asl night sfan5
20:48 LemonLake sayounara
20:48 sfan5 *looks that up*
20:48 LemonLake goodbye
20:48 sfan5 ah
20:49 sfan5 おやすみ〜
20:49 WindHero if it's still in the a.m. here
20:49 LemonLake hai, sfan5
20:49 WindHero should I be saying "ohayo gozaimasu"?
20:49 LemonLake correct
20:50 WindHero FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WITH AN INKLING OF JAPANESE
20:50 LemonLake still setting up my japanese keyboard
20:50 LemonLake but i've been learning it the past 3 weeks
20:50 WindHero I'm nowhere near that level
20:50 WindHero I only know what I've picked up from anime :P
20:50 shadowzone That caverealms looks like a planet on star wars.
20:50 LemonLake i probably know about 20 words
20:50 LemonLake but i couldnt list them all if asked, id just remember them as they come along
20:50 coagen watashi wakarimas!
20:50 coagen hehe
20:51 coagen watashi wakarimas nihongo ga
20:51 WindHero watashi is "I", isn't it?
20:51 LemonLake correct
20:51 WindHero @shadowzone: perhaps
20:51 shadowzone I am a geek by the way.
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20:52 coagen I learned extremly basic japanese to give tour once to students from japan... looks like I might remember a word or two
20:52 Jordach shadowzone, https://mediacru.sh/85612b13b5bb
20:52 shadowzone https://mediacru.sh/J3InG70wWy9f
20:52 LemonLake sick renders
20:52 LemonLake you're getting a lot better
20:52 shadowzone Jordach I made a meme with one of your renders
20:52 Jordach that is not a render
20:52 Jordach I REPEAT
20:52 coagen Jordach: that is sexy
20:52 WindHero that's SEUS from MC
20:52 LemonLake ah okay
20:52 LemonLake shadus?
20:52 shadowzone oh.
20:52 LemonLake it looks like minetest
20:52 LemonLake look at the textures
20:53 LemonLake ah, no that's definitely mc
20:53 shadowzone Jordach still I used one of your renders to make a meme.
20:53 WindHero I know why I had a chunk cutoff
20:53 WindHero too little space between layers
20:54 WindHero when two caves collide, they cut off the other
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20:56 WindHero hmm
20:57 Amaz WindHero, Have you thought of making a modified version of caverealms for skylands game?
20:58 WindHero oh, such that there are mega-islands with caverealms inside?
21:00 Amaz Yeah.
21:00 WindHero hmm
21:00 LemonLake that sounds cool
21:00 WindHero It wouldn't be impossible
21:01 WindHero I guess I could experiment with something like that in SkyTest
21:01 WindHero although I wouldn't put it in SkyLands mod
21:06 LemonLake こんにちは!
21:06 LemonLake I got Anthy and IBus to work :D
21:07 LemonLake ohh but mozc is soo much better :D
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21:12 WindHero hrmmmm
21:12 WindHero this isn't working how it should
21:12 WindHero it's even making underground skylands, in a way
21:15 WindHero If I'm gonna make them vertically unlimited, I'm gonna have to slightly rewrite the generation code..
21:16 LemonLake it would be cool if you made them slightly different the lower you went
21:16 WindHero using paramat's subterrain engine as a base
21:16 WindHero in what way, LemonLake?
21:16 Amaz Right.
21:16 WindHero biome or structure
21:16 Amaz imo, biome
21:16 LemonLake same
21:16 LemonLake maybe different blocks
21:17 LemonLake and ores
21:17 WindHero I already had some slight ideas of doing something like that down the line
21:17 WindHero ores, eh?
21:17 LemonLake maybe
21:17 WindHero I currently don't generate any ores
21:17 LemonLake ah
21:17 Amaz :D
21:17 WindHero except the mese crystal bases, ofc
21:18 LemonLake はい
21:19 WindHero I can't read Japanese
21:19 LemonLake that just says 'hai' which means 'yes'
21:19 LemonLake は = ha, い = i
21:20 WindHero ik what hai means
21:21 WindHero another test: https://mediacru.sh/kX7md7cXzWjP
21:21 WindHero note the cutoff again
21:21 LemonLake getting there
21:23 WindHero yup :P
21:23 coagen WindHero: onload popup should have something like "Its Dangerous to Go Alone! Take this" and you click a button and get torches... haha
21:23 WindHero ROFL
21:24 Amaz XD
21:24 LemonLake Iぃけい てぇわy位sいt
21:24 LemonLake oh crap, wrong keyboard
21:24 WindHero I've honestly considered that
21:24 LemonLake I like it the way it is, actually
21:24 LemonLake It looks very mystical
21:24 WindHero what, right now, or before the changes?
21:24 LemonLake I mean, lighting-based
21:25 WindHero oh yes, so do I
21:25 LemonLake You could make it so that torches just freeze up in them :P
21:25 WindHero lol
21:26 WindHero eh, I'd leave that to individual players/server owners
21:26 WindHero it
21:26 LemonLake okay
21:26 WindHero isn't really right to deny people a node just for aesthetics
21:26 WindHero btw, (off topic) where's your avatar from, LemonLake?
21:27 LemonLake which one?
21:27 LemonLake my forum one?
21:27 WindHero Minetest
21:27 WindHero forum
21:27 WindHero yeah
21:27 LemonLake let me see
21:27 LemonLake [potentially NSFW] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=yuno+gasai
21:27 LemonLake from Mirai Nikki
21:27 LemonLake I'm changing it today tho
21:27 WindHero ohh
21:27 WindHero I've heard that name
21:27 LemonLake sfan5 recommended it to me
21:27 WindHero and steered clear :P
21:28 LemonLake amaaaazing anime
21:28 WindHero I'm watching Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic right now
21:28 LemonLake phpbb avatars are a pisstake though
21:28 LemonLake it should at least resize them to 64x64 itself
21:28 WindHero yeah
21:28 LemonLake i have an unbelievable amount of copies for every place i put an avatar on
21:30 LemonLake changed
21:31 WindHero kawaii~
21:32 LemonLake はい!
21:32 WindHero My avatar is from Robotics;Notes
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21:32 WindHero lesser known anime
21:32 LemonLake thats on my to-watch list after Clannad
21:32 LemonLake been wanting to see it for a while
21:32 WindHero probably would only know of it if you saw and liked Steins;Gate
21:32 LemonLake nope
21:33 LemonLake i looked at an anime database and found animes similar to hyouka and kokoro connect
21:33 WindHero ahhh
21:33 LemonLake thats how i find new an imes nowadays :P
21:33 LemonLake s/an imes/animes
21:33 WindHero any chance you've heard of/seen Accel World?
21:33 LemonLake heard of
21:39 WindHero yeah, this is getting nowhere
21:39 WindHero Imma gonna try a partial rewrite
21:42 LemonLake さようなら!
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21:58 Nerotic Finally, got to compiling :)
21:58 Nerotic 63%
22:01 Amaz Great
22:02 Nerotic Yep, it's only a test though, not a compile for Nerotictest.
22:02 Amaz Ok
22:02 Nerotic Finished, and it works.
22:03 Amaz :)
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22:12 Nerotic Where is the file located in /minetest/ (uncompiled) that allows you to change the title from Minetest, to whatever?
22:12 Nerotic I am guessing builtin?
22:14 Amaz Just on the screen? Or in the top of the screen? (You know what I mean...)
22:15 Nerotic no, in the code.
22:15 Amaz Menu, instead of the first screen.
22:15 Nerotic github.com/minetest/minetest
22:16 Nerotic in that i mean
22:16 Amaz just the github name?
22:16 Nerotic no -.-
22:16 Nerotic nvm
22:17 Amaz I didn't thin you meant that...
22:17 Nerotic ill look myself, you didn't read it right, but its okay, i like a challenge anyways(even though its probably in plain sight)
22:17 Amaz Okay.
22:18 Amaz I don't really get your meaning...
22:18 Amaz But any way, I' m going to sleep now.
22:18 Nerotic night
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22:26 highrise9999 Hello.
22:26 Nerotic Yo
22:27 highrise9999 I was wondering if it was in any way possible to have multiple outputs for the same crafting recipe.
22:27 Nerotic Yeah.
22:28 Nerotic Somebody tried making all recipes be flippable but that never made it into a version
22:28 highrise9999 Is this something that could be done in Lua scripts, or would I have to modify the core?
22:29 highrise9999 crafting recipes--sure they can be done in Lua--but showing them all . . .
22:29 Nerotic its all in minetest_game so yes, lua
22:29 Nerotic no core is needed to be changed
22:29 highrise9999 sounds promising
22:30 Nerotic you can modify the minetest_game/default codes, and do it, or make another folder in minetest_game and have it as a mod like addition
22:30 Nerotic except itll be there by default
22:30 highrise9999 yeah
22:31 highrise9999 Is there any documentation on modifying the inventory GUI?
22:31 Nerotic dev.minetest.net
22:32 highrise9999 I did a search for "inventory" there but not much came up though
22:32 Nerotic k
22:32 Nerotic look around
22:32 highrise9999 yeah I might just take a look at the scripts
22:34 Nerotic Alright
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22:37 kaeza highrise9999, there are several mods that modify the player inventory. the simplest example (that does anything useful) is probably the `creative' mod, available in most sub-games
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22:37 kaeza if you are looking for more advanced stuff, try looking at inventory_plus or unified_inventory
22:38 highrise9999 kaeza: ah, didn't think of the creative inventory. I'll check that out; it seems to have the kind of look I want with selecting items.
22:38 highrise9999 kaeza: will, do, and thanks!
22:38 kaeza sure, and welcome :)
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22:55 kaeza http://www.geek.com/games/grandmothe​r-buys-old-building-in-japan-finds-5​5-classic-arcade-cabinets-1598130/
23:21 WindHero ok, I'm stumped
23:22 Jordach lol
23:22 WindHero maybe I'm just not meant to have vertically unlimited caves at this time :P
23:32 Jordach boat load of Minetest icons that look like cisoun's https://www.dropbox.com/sh/97pgla0​0n338te5/AADDhNHiOl2EXfv953UBY5jWa
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23:35 Jordach (still need to make ico for the windows users)
23:43 WindHero alright, I'mma gonna step away from this for a while and try later...
23:43 WindHero cya
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