Time Nick Message 00:03 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Handle missing tablecolumns[], fixes bug #1187 d1ee708 2014-06-24T02:00:29+02:00 http://git.io/XVdu4w 01:32 Megaf I will go nuts 01:33 Megaf Im making a new mod for my pixel art server 01:33 Megaf 22:31:33: ERROR[main]: ...AM/minetest/bin/../games/PiXelArt/mods/pixelart/init.lua:12: attempt to index global 'pixel' (a nil value) 01:37 Megaf please help http://paste.debian.net/106467/ 01:37 Megaf I just want to register those nodes 01:38 * Megaf looks at OldCoder 01:39 Megaf john_minetest; got ARM? 01:39 Megaf VanessaE; Would you help me please? 01:39 OldCoder You 01:39 Megaf or OldCoder :) 01:39 OldCoder Register nodes? 01:39 OldCoder Reviewing 01:39 Megaf It's gonna be a creative server, so no need for craft recipes 01:40 OldCoder Megaf, I expect to become knowledgeable in this again; presently I've forgotten most of my mod structure 01:40 OldCoder It's something I'll need to know about 01:41 OldCoder Most of my MT work recently has been making a cross-compiler (it's only a small 10GB in size :P), building a new Windows client, and setting up a few worlds 01:41 * Megaf looks at VanessaE again 01:41 OldCoder I apologize; we need more Lua people to help 01:41 * Megaf looks for asl too 01:41 * OldCoder is resting but will be here this evening to deal with server or world issues 01:43 Megaf Ok, I found a couple of typos 01:45 asl Megaf: the folder is call pixel? 01:47 Megaf It is now, let me try again 01:50 Megaf Finally!! 01:50 Megaf asl; I managed to make it work 01:50 Megaf fixed some types and matched folder name and mod name 01:50 Megaf thanks a million 01:50 Megaf Sorry to highlight you VanessaE, I fixed my mod already, 01:51 asl the pixel is nil wasn't it? 01:51 Megaf john_cephalopoda; my server is ARM and my phone is x86 xP 01:51 Megaf asl; quite 01:53 Megaf Now I need to figure out a short mod to make it creative 03:06 Megaf asl; Are you there? 03:11 Megaf kaeza; Are you there? =/ 03:12 kaeza maybe 03:14 asl maybe 03:14 Megaf Thanks kaeza and asl 03:14 Megaf How are things? 03:14 Megaf Good? 03:15 Megaf :) 03:15 Megaf asl; I'm using mesegates a lot 03:15 Megaf and meselamps 03:19 Megaf Ok, my game is almost perfect 03:19 Megaf I just need a cool texture now 03:19 kaeza use ice texture 03:20 kaeza :D 03:33 Megaf Gambit; you there? 03:33 Megaf I really like your textures 03:33 Megaf thanks 03:33 Vazon Hi Megaf 03:34 Megaf Hey VanessaE 03:34 Megaf oops, sorry 03:34 Megaf Hey Vazon 03:34 Megaf Vazon; Im making a new minetest game 03:34 Megaf really striped down 03:34 Vazon Cool, im planing on adding my server game to the games 03:35 Megaf Vazon; My game is for pixel art only 03:35 Megaf there's no tools, no crafting recipes :) 03:35 Vazon ew pixel art lol 03:35 Megaf not flowing liquids 03:35 Megaf no* 03:36 Vazon Megaf is now know for taking all of the griefers fun away 03:36 Vazon known* 03:36 Megaf heh 03:36 Megaf I've been doing that for ages 03:36 Megaf removing things like, buckets 03:36 Vazon lol 03:36 Megaf actually I created a mod, dummy buckets 03:37 Megaf its on my main server 03:37 Megaf its a bucket to be used only as crafting recipe 03:38 Vazon ya i saw 03:39 Megaf hm 03:39 Megaf minetest wont compile here 03:40 Megaf I did something wrong in cmake 03:42 Megaf yep 03:42 Megaf fixed 03:51 Megaf ok, need to make an icon and background for my minetetest game 06:05 Zeno` Hi, I build with -D-DENABLE_LUAJIT=1 but when I do cmake with the latest git version it says the manually specified variable was ignored. Is ENABLE_LUAJIT deprecated? 07:04 nman3600 markv and OldCoder You awake? 07:04 OldCoder I am here 07:05 nman3600 OldCoder, Goto_places on marks restarts the server evertime i use it. 07:06 OldCoder nman3600, I have not seen markv for a while 07:06 OldCoder Did you and he agree on what the problem was? 07:06 OldCoder He gave me two changes to make; one moment 07:07 OldCoder I could try to make them. But one is your own mod; not relevant I assume. The other is a patch to a "server" mod. Could that be the issue? 07:08 nman3600 Multitest's newest version is a bugfix and Possibly the patch to the "server" mod could be the prob. 07:09 nman3600 The thing is i've been building a secret room after draining all the lava in it and i've got a place set to it but i can't get back there 07:10 Zeno` restarts the server? As in the server crashes? 07:10 nman3600 Zeno`, Yep 07:10 nman3600 Says in chat ***Server shutting down. 07:10 Zeno` oh, it's not your server. Was going to suggest looking at the error message :3 07:10 nman3600 Then shuts down and comes back up 07:11 OldCoder nman3600, I'll install the changes now 07:11 OldCoder or in a few minutes 07:11 Zeno` or tomorrow 07:11 nman3600 Lol 07:12 nman3600 Okay.. I've got 19 mins to play and find my "secret room" without using places 07:18 nman3600 OldCoder, You done yet? 07:20 OldCoder nman3600, no; just starting 07:20 nman3600 Okay. I've got 10 mins to play then i'll not be online for 6 hours 07:20 OldCoder I'll be asleep 07:20 OldCoder Working on it 07:23 OldCoder fishyWET, wb 07:23 OldCoder nman3600, almost 07:23 nman3600 OldCoder someone just used places because it just crashed again 07:23 OldCoder No 07:23 OldCoder I am restarting 07:23 nman3600 Oh kay 07:23 nman3600 Good 07:24 OldCoder Where did 1000 players come from? 07:24 nman3600 Still crashes the server 07:24 nman3600 I need to use places to get to a secret room that i can't find on my own 07:24 nman3600 But it's not working 07:25 OldCoder Wait 07:25 OldCoder I restarted with the two changes 07:25 OldCoder Now, if places mod is causing crashes 07:25 OldCoder Is Zeg9 gone? 07:25 OldCoder Does he maintain it? 07:25 OldCoder nman3600, ^ 07:26 nman3600 I haven't seen him in a while 07:26 OldCoder nman3600, if you use places now and it crashes 07:26 OldCoder will the problems show up in the logs? 07:26 OldCoder I could try to patch 07:26 nman3600 Should i test it now 07:26 OldCoder TYes 07:26 OldCoder Yes 07:26 nman3600 Crashed 07:27 OldCoder I see the bug 07:27 nman3600 I've got to go in a min anyway 07:27 nman3600 Gotta go now bye! 07:27 OldCoder ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: .../share/minetest/games/atomicon_game/mods/places/init.lua:105: attempt to index global 'place' (a nil value) 07:27 OldCoder If anybody can comment on that crash 07:27 OldCoder Help will be appreciated 07:28 OldCoder fishyWET, do you have thoughts 07:28 OldCoder on the Error above? 07:29 fishyWET can the places mod be found in the forums?, i need to see the whole code first before i can help. 07:29 OldCoder I can give you a copy 07:29 OldCoder One moment 07:30 OldCoder http://minetest.org/places.zip 07:30 OldCoder Just 2 files 07:30 OldCoder Plus textures 07:30 fishyWET right, thanks 07:34 OldCoder fishyWET, I don't think there's an official repository. It's a good mod that is needed. If the answer isn't clear to you, see if others can comment. 07:35 fishyWET when i tried it, it apparently works 07:36 fishyWET using 0.4.9-dev20140605 07:36 fishyWET OldCoder ^ 07:37 OldCoder fishyWET, I am using about that or newer 07:37 OldCoder You must use the mod 07:37 OldCoder to trigger the crash 07:37 OldCoder the question is, what is "place" supposed to be? 07:37 OldCoder It is nil 07:37 OldCoder See line 105 of init.lua 07:37 fishyWET yes, i saved a place, teleported it, and delete, no error 07:37 OldCoder See line 105 of init.lua 07:38 OldCoder place is nil 07:38 OldCoder The question is, where does the value come from? 07:38 fishyWET places file in the world folder? 07:38 fishyWET maybe the world is corrupted? 07:38 OldCoder It is a formspec 07:38 OldCoder fishyWET, ah 07:38 OldCoder You don't do much Lua? 07:39 OldCoder I appreciate the willingness to look 07:39 OldCoder But a Lua coder needs to look at this 07:39 fishyWET um, i can't help much then 07:39 OldCoder Thank you for your time 07:39 OldCoder I am about to fall asleep 07:39 OldCoder Will you pass the ZIP on to anybody who may help? 07:40 OldCoder On any day you notice them? 07:40 OldCoder The error message is above 07:40 OldCoder Line 105 of the init gets a nil value for place 07:40 fishyWET yeah sure, i will just ask around to see if people can help with it 07:40 OldCoder ty 08:05 VanessaE good morning 08:06 * VanessaE waves, sleeplessly. 08:12 Zeno` where is sapien? 08:12 Zeno` I want to give him a kiss (not gay but he deserves one) 08:12 Zeno` the updates he pushed yesterday are AWESOME 08:12 Zeno` hi VanessaE 08:13 VanessaE hey 08:13 VanessaE sapier you mean 08:13 Zeno` yeah that will do. I'll kiss them all :p 08:14 VanessaE heh 08:15 Zeno` my CPU usage (server) has gone from about 90% (average) to 200% down to 20%! 08:15 Zeno` I'm not kidding, I can't believe the difference 08:15 VanessaE client-side has seen improvements as well 08:15 Zeno` whatever was committed yesterday is truly nice work 08:16 Zeno` I'll have to look at what, exactly, he did heh 08:16 VanessaE HDX's memory usage got slashed by 25% easily. 08:17 Zeno` nice 08:21 * Zeno` kisses VanessaE just for the sake of it 08:21 Zeno` don't tell abe! 08:21 VanessaE aw :) 08:22 Zeno` rofl 08:22 Zeno` I'm very happy today 08:22 Zeno` it was a friendly kiss, not a passionate one heh 08:22 VanessaE heh 08:22 VanessaE this channel is logged, you know :) 08:23 VanessaE 20 years from now he's gonna google this and go wtf! :) 08:24 Zeno` oh dear 08:26 jp__ Not Google. Internet Wayback. Things are very impermanent on internet... 08:26 VanessaE heh 08:26 Zeno` thingy made me do it 11:31 kaeza spam in MT Wiki -_- 11:32 kaeza mornings 12:14 sfan5 meow 12:14 sfan5 hi everyone 12:15 VanessaE hi 12:15 Jordach mew 12:17 Megaf H all 12:17 Megaf Hi sfan5 12:18 Megaf kaeza: not cool 12:18 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 12:18 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30000 seems to be down 12:18 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 12:18 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (540ms) 12:18 * kaeza pets sfan5 12:19 Megaf I'm using Gambit textures there 12:19 * sfan5 purrs 12:23 * Zeno` curls up on sfan5's lap 12:23 * sfan5 meows at Zeno` 12:23 Zeno` purrrrrr 12:23 Zeno` pizza! 12:23 * Zeno` eats 12:25 fishyWET ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: .../share/minetest/games/atomico​n_game/mods/places/init.lua:105: attempt to index global 'place' (a nil value) 12:25 fishyWET If anybody can comment on that crash, Help will be appreciated, http://minetest.org/places.zip 12:26 fishyWET ^ can anyone help with that, OldCoder requested me to pass this on to see if anyone can help with it 12:26 Jordach fishyWET, that's a table 12:26 Jordach i don't even have to look at the mod to know that 12:26 Jordach (basically, you're trying to index place[x] which isn't set from somewhere) 12:28 fishyWET i'm a non-programmer that learn making mods by copying & combining & experimenting, so i have no idea wat u are talking abt, but anyways thanks, i will just pass that on to OldCoder 12:30 fishyWET um, are u trying to say "place = ..." isn't set somewhere? 12:31 fishyWET ^ Jordach 12:31 Jordach fishyWET, for a table it must be defined like place = {} 12:32 fishyWET does this works?; place = places.get_place_by_name(player, place_name) 12:33 kaeza fishyWET, add `if not place then return end` after that line 12:34 kaeza it seems get_place_by_name() is returning `nil` (presumably because there's no place with that name), so it's causing that error 12:35 fishyWET oh okay, thanks 13:20 * Megaf is dyslexie for sure 13:20 * Megaf cant properly make the difference, asl and asie 13:21 Megaf ouch, dysleci 13:21 Megaf whatever 13:21 asl ? 13:21 Megaf asl: you are not the author of mesegates, are you? 13:21 asl nope 13:21 Megaf asl: what mod did you make? 13:22 asl the leave_decayer which no one use 13:22 asl and that's about all 13:22 Megaf I see 13:24 Megaf I got 15 ms ping from my workplace to my home 13:24 Megaf is that bad? 13:25 Megaf via internet 13:25 Megaf Hi RealBadAngel 13:25 RealBadAngel hi 13:27 sfan5 Megaf: no, that's pretty good 13:27 Megaf cool 13:32 Megaf Hi phantombeta 13:36 RealBadAngel Megaf, i suggest updating UI now 13:37 RealBadAngel with the new core changes (merged later today propably) older clients wont have any problems 13:37 RealBadAngel like yesterday 13:37 RealBadAngel but u can update UI right now 13:37 Megaf ok 13:38 RealBadAngel tooltips will be visible when u will use new client 13:39 RealBadAngel older clients will just work as before 13:40 Megaf Interesting RealBadAngel 13:41 Megaf compiling 13:41 RealBadAngel compiling what? 13:41 RealBadAngel UI? :) 13:41 Megaf RealBadAngel: since I had to shutdown the server to update unified inventory, I will backup it and update it too 13:42 Megaf :) 13:42 RealBadAngel server propably doesnt have to be updated even 13:42 Megaf I know 13:43 Megaf I will alway keep my server updated to the latest git 13:43 Megaf bleeding edge :) 13:43 RealBadAngel the changes are not yet in 13:43 RealBadAngel i just made the pull with changes ready 13:44 RealBadAngel btw, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug1r81Qg89U 13:44 RealBadAngel video with new features 13:44 Megaf RealBadAngel: Updating f800f39..0d77736 13:45 Megaf From https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory 13:45 Megaf internal.lua | 51 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------- 13:45 Megaf is that it? 13:45 Megaf [10:38:29] tooltips will be visible when u will use new client 13:45 Megaf [10:39:10] older clients will just work as before 13:45 RealBadAngel and waypoints.lua 13:45 RealBadAngel those 2 were modified 13:45 Megaf yep 13:46 Megaf indeed 13:46 RealBadAngel if you want a client/server with the changes you need to apply this patch to the engine: 13:47 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/a53bd7f6c2690b6f5484f892daaa0287799b7bde.patch 13:48 Megaf RealBadAngel: I will just update server side 13:49 Megaf rsync, the best tool ever 13:50 Megaf RealBadAngel: I quite liked the tooltips moving along with the cursor 13:50 Megaf as you had before 13:51 RealBadAngel such behaviour is not common elsewhere 13:53 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 13:53 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (393ms) 13:54 Megaf I will log in with a client that is know to not support tooltips (where the buttons were missing). cb3b42e 14:00 Megaf yup, works great. Cool. Trying now with the newer client 14:00 Megaf 5fb877 no longer supports tooltips RealBadAngel 14:01 RealBadAngel for tooltips you need client from the future ;) 14:01 RealBadAngel or with the patch i linked before 14:02 Megaf Right 14:03 Megaf I will just wait till that is merged RealBadAngel 14:23 Megaf Hi Vazon 14:24 Vazon Hi Megaf 14:26 Megaf Vazon: My subgame works perfect on my Raspberry Pi 14:26 Megaf pretty fast 14:26 Megaf I wonder how fast it would run on a even better hardware 14:26 Vazon thats great and idk 14:28 Megaf Vazon: https://github.com/Megaf/Pixel 14:29 Vazon Cool 14:30 asl Megaf: https://github.com/Megaf/Pixel/tree/master/mods/default/copy%20of%20textures 14:30 Megaf asl: Yep, I will remove that 14:31 Megaf done 14:32 Megaf lunch time, AFK 14:57 asl Megaf: https://github.com/Megaf/Pixel/blob/master/mods/pixel/PiXelArt.xcf < this too? 15:00 Vazon EW Piggybear87 15:00 Piggybear87 Lol. 15:00 Vazon I mean hey Piggybear ;) 15:16 otakux HI 15:25 asl does anyone know how many of each node a sequoia tree from moretree is make from? 15:26 nman3600 ask VanessaE, asl 15:36 nman3600 I wish you could turn wood planks back into trunks. That'd be amazing 15:39 nman3600 OldCoder, You awake? 15:51 Krock hello 16:00 nman3600 Krock, Hi 16:01 nman3600 Krock how can i find a snow area on your server 16:01 nman3600 Not one close to spawn 16:01 Krock nman3600, they don't generate naturally 16:01 nman3600 I want my own one 16:02 nman3600 Can i get one? 16:02 Krock grind ice to get snow, place it everywhere to get snowy dirt 16:04 nman3600 K thanks 16:04 nman3600 Time to find space for i 16:04 nman3600 it* 16:04 * Krock runs build_mt.bat 16:07 nman3600 I read that as "* Krock ruins built_mt.bat" 16:07 nman3600 Lol 16:07 OldCoder nman3600, yes 16:07 OldCoder Is any Lua Coder present? 16:07 nman3600 OldCoder did you fix goto_places? 16:07 OldCoder nman3600, there is an error at line 105 I think of init.lua in places 16:07 OldCoder I am looking for a Lua Coder to help 16:07 nman3600 Ask Krock he's good at Lua 16:08 Krock eh. I don't code lua 16:08 nman3600 Or A dev 16:08 Krock I just code _with_ lua 16:08 OldCoder Jordach, the mod is very small. It is: 16:08 OldCoder http://minetest.org/places.zip 16:08 Jordach OldCoder, i've had enough with those warping mods 16:08 OldCoder It is said still to work. It did before. 16:08 OldCoder Jordach, I am quite literal and do not understand your remark 16:09 Krock (interesting seperator "`") 16:09 OldCoder Politeness is requested as the remark appears to be sharp and uncalled for 16:09 Jordach i had to repair xyz's damaged sethome which would destroy the DB if a moderator did /sethome newplace /home newplace 16:09 OldCoder The places mod simply bookmarks places. No big deal. It is a "must" for my worlds. 16:09 OldCoder There are many interesting places that are lost when people move on 16:10 OldCoder The places mod will allow a catalog (or catalogue) to be constructed 16:10 OldCoder Accordingly, is any polite Lua Coder present? 16:10 * OldCoder does not even know what a "warping" mod is 16:11 * sfan5 shows his hand 16:14 * markv can't get rid of mail 16:14 markv You have new mail in /var/mail/mark 16:14 sfan5 OldCoder: is it ok if I change the places file format 16:14 sfan5 markv: use a command line mail client to read it 16:14 * Krock points at possible code-shortening at line 36 - 41 16:14 markv deb : Jun 24 17:13:03 : mark : user NOT in sudoers ; TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/mark ; USER=root ; COMMAND=help 16:15 sfan5 you tried using sudo with root but root is not allowed to use sudo 16:15 markv ah right 16:15 Krock lol. stupid linux. root has not all root rights 16:15 markv Wait sut... 16:15 OldCoder sfan5, very much so if you can produce a safe working version 16:15 sfan5 Krock: to linux itself sudo is an external program 16:16 markv root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL 16:16 markv mark ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL 16:16 Krock sfan5, ehm okay 16:16 sfan5 OldCoder: backticks are just not the prettiest seperator 16:16 OldCoder markv and nman3600 catch up with each other 16:16 OldCoder sfan5, I would agree 16:16 OldCoder sfan5, if this is about the Places mod, it is by Zeg9. I was much appreciative that he had done it. 16:17 jin_xi needs redoing 16:17 OldCoder markv, nman3600 has a problem to report, I think, separate from Places 16:17 OldCoder jin_xi, regrettably I've forgotten my Lua 16:17 OldCoder It's been an odd year or two 16:18 * markv deletes mail file 16:19 nman3600 OldCoder, The issue is to do with places 16:19 OldCoder That simplifies things 16:19 OldCoder I'm going to install the mod in each world. So a patch will be needed. kaeza has suggested one but I'm not sure why it wasn't needed before. 16:20 OldCoder I figured that something had changed in builtin. 16:20 OldCoder Amaz, wb 16:20 Amaz Hi! 16:23 OldCoder nman3600, try it now 16:24 OldCoder When you are in, please attempt to use the places mod 16:24 OldCoder Vazon, hi 16:24 nman3600 OldCoder, Joining now 16:24 Vazon Hi OldCoder 16:24 OldCoder o/ 16:24 nman3600 Crashed 16:24 OldCoder Reviewing 16:25 OldCoder No 16:25 OldCoder Hm 16:25 OldCoder Reviewing 16:25 OldCoder Yes 16:26 nman3600 So? 16:26 OldCoder Reviewing 16:26 OldCoder Allow time D: 16:27 OldCoder ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: 16:27 OldCoder .../games/atomicon_game/mods/tweaks/inventory_plus/ 16:27 OldCoder init.lua:73: bad argument #1 to 'set_inventory_formspec' 16:27 OldCoder (string expected, got nil) 16:27 OldCoder 09:25:36: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: 16:27 OldCoder 09:25:36: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'set_inventory_formspec' 16:27 OldCoder 09:25:36: ERROR[main]: .../games/atomicon_game/mods/tweaks/ 16:27 OldCoder inventory_plus/init.lua:73: in function 'set_inventory_formspec' 16:27 OldCoder 09:25:36: ERROR[main]: .../share/minetest/games/atomicon_game/ 16:27 OldCoder mods/places/init.lua:124: in function 16:27 OldCoder 16:27 OldCoder I assume that kaeza patch does not work 16:27 OldCoder Calinou, Hi 16:27 OldCoder Removing patch 16:29 Calinou hi :) 16:29 nman3600 Hai Calinou 16:29 Calinou More Ores was updated, code cleanup and sword damage added 16:30 Calinou moved its topic abck to Mod Releases 16:30 Calinou (but don't expect too many changes) 16:30 sfan5 Calinou: you could've told me that you moved to bitbucket, I only noticed it today; also your DL link still points to github 16:30 Calinou it's not bitbucket, it's Gitorious 16:30 OldCoder minetest.register_on_player_receive_fields 16:30 Calinou sfan5, sorry :/ 16:30 OldCoder Is that a builtin call? 16:30 sfan5 Calinou: ah, right 16:31 sfan5 OldCoder: yes 16:31 OldCoder It has changed, I assume 16:31 Calinou Gitorious only has .tar.gz downloads, no .zip (why?) 16:31 OldCoder the crash is probably coming from there 16:31 Calinou so I'd need to tell Windows users to get 7-zip 16:31 Calinou also the download links are not stable, they do change :/ 16:31 sfan5 but the github stuff is outdated 16:31 Calinou based on commit number 16:31 OldCoder sfan5, what is the format of the callback argument list for that? Should I grep builtin? 16:31 sfan5 you can get stable dl links for gitourious too IIRC 16:32 sfan5 OldCoder: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt probably has an answer for your question 16:32 OldCoder R 16:32 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/archive/aed007f24cf5631cdc0b2e53a9fe3ca269c5ee97.tar.gz 16:32 Calinou this is the download link of latest commit 16:32 Calinou how would I make it persistent (update for newer commits)? 16:33 sfan5 Calinou: https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/archive/latest.tar.gz 16:33 sfan5 uh no 16:33 sfan5 s/latest/master/ 16:33 OldCoder Amaz, all set? 16:33 Amaz Great, thanks! 16:33 * OldCoder is reviewing Places code 16:33 sfan5 Calinou: and even https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/archive/master.zip 16:34 Calinou O_o 16:34 sfan5 undocumented features yay! 16:34 Calinou Gitorious never stops surprising you 16:34 Calinou now if you told me how to enable the issue tracker… :-D 16:34 sfan5 probably in the settings 16:34 sfan5 (of the repo) 16:34 Calinou didn't find it, looked several times 16:35 Calinou both in project and repository 16:35 Calinou there are wikis though, but I don't need them 16:35 sfan5 did you try google yet? 16:35 nman3600 I found a river On your server Krock! 16:35 Calinou I won't try Google, but I will search 16:35 nman3600 Not much of a river but it looks so cool 16:36 Krock nman3600, already found at http://i.imgur.com/F5xRqjL.png 16:38 Krock sfan5! 16:38 sfan5 OldCoder: I'm currently fixing the problems in the places mod 16:38 sfan5 Krock! 16:38 Krock - MinetestBot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:38 OldCoder sfan5, Oh? Thank you. I am looking at code that seems related. 16:42 Megaf_ Hi Calinou, https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks/issues/22 16:42 Megaf_ [11:57:27] Megaf: https://github.com/Megaf/Pixel/blob/master/mods/pixel/PiXelArt.xcf < this too? 16:42 Megaf_ I'm not sure 16:42 Megaf_ should I remove it? 16:43 Calinou circular saw bugs :'( as if there weren't enough bugs either 16:43 Megaf_ It's open source, so that file is the source of textures 16:43 Vazon My circular saw never crashes, well hasnt yet 16:43 Megaf_ Calinou; That's the only bug that I care of in Moreblocks 16:43 Calinou there are lots of duplication glitches 16:43 Calinou you could duplicate steel ingots or such 16:43 Vazon o 16:44 asl i think it should be move else where like in the textures instead of the mod folder 16:44 Calinou textures/src 16:44 Calinou put the .xcfs and .svgs there 16:44 Calinou to not mix them with the normal textures 16:46 Calinou fixing my download links 16:46 Megaf_ done 16:46 Megaf_ https://github.com/Megaf/Pixel/tree/master/mods/pixel/textures/src 16:47 Calinou Megaf_, you could disable circular saw crafting and remove it from creative inventory as a workaround 16:47 Calinou unfortunately, circular saw bugs are never easy to fix, or even reproduce 16:47 Calinou (what did you do when it crashed?) 16:48 Megaf_ Calinou; read my issue 16:48 Megaf_ I have no idea 16:48 Megaf_ all I know is, I'm doing nothing and the server crashes 16:49 nman3600 So.. Krock i just place snow blocks around the place? 16:50 * GhostDoge pokes PenguinDad 16:50 nman3600 Krock. Hello? 16:52 Amaz Lol 16:52 nman3600 Lol 16:52 nman3600 Krock you awake? 16:55 nman3600 Oh i get it nevermind Krock 16:57 sfan5 OldCoder: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/places.zip 16:58 OldCoder sfan5, Reviewing 17:00 OldCoder Restarting to test. Whether or not it works, sfan5, thank you for your time. 17:00 sfan5 it should work 17:01 nman3600 Krock, This is where i'll struggle getting on your server for a week 17:01 nman3600 OldCoder i'm ready to get on to test it 17:01 OldCoder Wait briefly 17:03 OldCoder 10:04:18: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== 17:03 OldCoder 10:04:18: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from 17:03 OldCoder 10:04:18: ERROR[main]: /opt/minetest049/share/minetest/games/atomicon_game/mods/places/init.lua: 17:03 OldCoder 10:04:18: ERROR[main]: .../share/minetest/games/atomicon_game/mods/places/init.lua:47: table index is nil 17:03 OldCoder sfan5, time was appreciated ^ 17:04 sfan5 is your /places empty? 17:04 OldCoder Reviewing 17:04 markv Wait this is my server 17:04 markv Just noticed 17:04 OldCoder Ha 17:05 OldCoder sfan5, yes 17:05 sfan5 mhm 17:05 markv Well my home server is working, debian 17:05 markv Actually does nothing useful atm 17:05 OldCoder We are so pleased :P 17:05 OldCoder What does nothing? 17:05 * Krock 's places version: http://pastebin.com/BVb17PpR 17:05 OldCoder Krock, Reviewing 17:06 OldCoder Krock, what sort of changes did you attempt? Should I merge yours and sfan5's? 17:06 Krock OldCoder, backup old and test this one 17:06 OldCoder Proceeding 17:06 sfan5 Krock: what did you change? 17:07 Krock sfan5, added some if's and other changes. line 28 may be important 17:07 sfan5 Krock: I did the same in my version 17:08 Krock sfan5, haven't looked at your version but.. let's hope one of them will work at the end 17:08 nman3600 Wait will the backup get rid of all set places? 17:08 OldCoder nman3600, explain 17:08 Krock sfan5, yes 17:08 Krock it's empty 17:08 sfan5 OldCoder: update: wget -qO- http://sprunge.us/edNX | base64 -d | gzip -d > /opt/minetest049/share/minetest/games/atomicon_game/mods/places/init.lua 17:08 Krock there's nothing to loose 17:08 sfan5 Krock: I know that 17:08 OldCoder sfan5, Krock which should I try? 17:08 Krock sfan5, adresed to nman3600 17:09 Krock OldCoder, both :) 17:09 nman3600 If you back it up will it get rid of all of the places that players have set or is that in the server itself 17:09 sfan5 but mine has some code reorganized and fixed 17:09 OldCoder nman3600, what do you mean by back it up 17:09 sfan5 and mine uses username|-1,500,23|place name|place desc. instead of that backtick format 17:09 nman3600 Oldcoderm backup old and test this one 17:09 OldCoder Proceeding 17:09 OldCoder nman3600, he is referring to the init.lua file 17:10 OldCoder There are no set places yet 17:10 nman3600 Oh 17:10 nman3600 Okay 17:10 * Krock gives nman3600 Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V 17:10 nman3600 Phew 17:10 * nman3600 smashes it 17:10 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 17:10 sfan5 wait 17:10 OldCoder ? 17:10 sfan5 where's MinetestBot? 17:10 Amaz She wait... 17:10 Amaz *went 17:11 nman3600 I miss ShadowBot and MinetestBot 17:11 Krock - MinetestBot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:11 Megaf Calinou: weird thing is, it doesnt crashes often, sometimes it takes two weeks, sometimes it doesnt crash and sometimes, like in the latest crash, it crashes after just 10 minutes 17:11 Amaz 23* 23MinetestBot has quit (23Ping timeout: 240 seconds23) 17:11 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 17:11 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (799ms) 17:11 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 17:11 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 17:11 Krock sfan5, I told you about it but maybe I forgot to add your name in front to highlight you :P 17:11 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 17:11 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (508ms) 17:11 nman3600 <3 MinetestBot 17:11 MinetestBot <3 nman3600 17:11 * GhostDoge hugs MinetestBot 17:11 nman3600 I missed you MinetestBot! 17:12 * MinetestBot hugs back 17:12 Krock lol 17:12 Megaf Calinou: so I wont disable the crafting table, everyone on my server love it 17:12 nman3600 !rainbow MinetestBot IS BACK 17:12 MinetestBot 4M4i4n7e7t7e8s8t8B3o3t3 12I12S12 6B6A6C13K 17:12 sfan5 !rainbow I kinda like rainbows 17:12 MinetestBot 4I4 4k7i7n7d8a8 8l3i3k3e12 12r12a6i6n6b13o13w13s 17:12 nman3600 !c 125125 - 125125125 * 125125125 17:12 MinetestBot -15656296906140500 17:13 nman3600 Damn I should've got MinetestBot to do my homework earlier 17:13 Megaf !rainbow THis is nor a rainbow 17:13 MinetestBot 4T4H4i7s7 7i8s8 8n3o3r3 12a12 12r6a6i6n13b13o13w 17:13 Megaf MinetestBot: You need to learn to spell properly 17:13 Megaf !rainbow This is not a rainbow 17:13 MinetestBot 4T4h4i7s7 7i8s8 8n3o3t3 12a12 12r6a6i6n13b13o13w 17:13 GhostDoge 05W04h07y 08M03e09g10a11f02? 17:13 * nman3600 Sends MinetestBot back to school 17:14 Megaf That's better 17:14 Megaf GhostDoge: well, to start, there's no pink in the rainbow 17:14 sfan5 nman3600: MinetestBot can't go to school 17:14 nman3600 Is there a list for all MinetestBot (!) commands? 17:14 sfan5 !help 17:14 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 17:14 nman3600 sfan5, I just made it possible DEAL WITH IT 17:15 kahrl !c y''(x) = -y(x), y(0) = 1 17:15 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 17:15 kahrl aww 17:15 nman3600 Ahh thanks MinetestBot 17:15 GhostDoge !halp 17:15 kahrl I want MinetestBot to solve Sturm-Liouville problems! 17:15 sfan5 kahrl: there are no inline function definitions in python 17:16 nman3600 !next 17:16 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 17:16 nman3600 Lol 17:16 nman3600 That's just random 17:16 Megaf !sfu Megaf 17:16 MinetestBot Megaf: No Results found 17:16 Megaf =/ 17:16 nman3600 !sfu nman3600 17:16 MinetestBot nman3600: No Results found 17:16 sfan5 Megaf: sfu be broken 17:16 nman3600 :( 17:16 sfan5 nman3600: no !doge is random 17:16 sfan5 !doge 17:16 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT 17:16 sfan5 !doge 17:16 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000051 BTC 17:16 GhostDoge !sfu stfu 17:16 MinetestBot GhostDoge: No Results found 17:16 nman3600 !doge 17:16 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT 17:16 sfan5 it does one of those things 17:16 Megaf !ping sfan5 17:17 sfan5 !pong Megaf 17:17 nman3600 Ahh that's so fluffing cute 17:17 Amaz !ping Amaz 17:17 Megaf !ping doesnt work 17:17 Amaz !ping :( 17:17 Megaf Because is not !ping, is hey MinetestBot 17:17 sfan5 Megaf: where is !ping listed in commands.md? 17:17 nman3600 !seen Jesus 17:17 MinetestBot nman3600: Sorry, I haven't seen jesus around. 17:17 Megaf hey MinetestBot 17:17 MinetestBot Hello Megaf 17:17 nman3600 Lol 17:17 Megaf hi MinetestBot 17:17 MinetestBot Hey Megaf. 17:17 Megaf hello MinetestBot 17:17 MinetestBot sup Megaf 17:17 sfan5 STAPH! 17:17 LemonLake stop messing with it 17:17 GhostDoge sup MinetestBot 17:18 LemonLake leave it alone 17:18 Megaf hi/hey/hello = !ping 17:18 sfan5 go to ##minetestbot if you want to do this stuff 17:18 GhostDoge > it 17:18 OldCoder Vazon, nman3600, markv Try 30010 server and test Places 17:18 Vazon ok 17:18 sfan5 LemonLake: her* 17:18 LemonLake i thought it was a her lol 17:18 sfan5 she* 17:18 nman3600 !rev sfan5 loves kittens 17:18 MinetestBot snettik sevol 5nafs 17:18 nman3600 snettik Lol 17:18 Megaf !title 17:18 MinetestBot Megaf: I need a URI to give the title of... 17:19 LemonLake fuck to the you you're bursting my self confidence 17:19 sfan5 nman3600: do this in ##minetestbot please 17:19 Megaf !title 17:19 MinetestBot Megaf: Google 17:19 Megaf :S 17:19 Vazon Works 17:19 LemonLake megaf: ##minetestbot 17:19 sfan5 OldCoder: are you using Krocks version? 17:20 Vazon Places will not work on my server tho because i use the unified inv, same iwth landrush 17:20 Vazon with* 17:20 OldCoder sfan5, no; your latest 17:20 sfan5 ah 17:20 OldCoder Vazon, then I will expect a text-file list of interesting places 17:20 Vazon ok 17:20 OldCoder nman3600, are you in 17:20 OldCoder ? 17:21 Vazon unless sfan5 can make it work with unified_inv 17:21 sfan5 depends 17:21 Calinou Megaf, be sure to have an auto-restart script 17:21 OldCoder Database_LevelDB(ServerMap*, std::string): Assertion 'status.ok()' failed. 17:21 OldCoder Debug stacks: 17:21 OldCoder DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD 7f6689d24760: 17:21 OldCoder #0 int main(int, char**) 17:21 OldCoder #1 Dedicated server branch 17:21 Calinou restart every day, and restart in case of a crash 17:21 OldCoder (Leftover data: #2 void Server::fillMediaCache()) 17:21 OldCoder BTW I see a lot of these 17:21 OldCoder Not related to Places 17:21 sfan5 OldCoder: that means leveldb said something is not ok 17:22 OldCoder Corruption? 17:22 OldCoder Do I need to revert to a week ago? 17:22 nman3600 Please no 17:22 sfan5 I don't think so 17:22 sfan5 zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) ./minetest 17:22 OldCoder I can't have corruption; sfan5, what would I do to clean up? 17:22 sfan5 damnit 17:22 OldCoder nman3600, are you in? 17:22 nman3600 OldCoder joining now 17:22 * Megaf said already, LevelDB is not needed/good enough 17:23 sfan5 OldCoder: I'll willl give you a patch that actually tells you the error 17:23 OldCoder sfan5, t y 17:23 sfan5 >implying LevelDB is not good enough 17:23 sfan5 pls 17:23 nman3600 I lost all my places but it didn't crash OldCoder 17:24 OldCoder I can get your places back 17:24 OldCoder Hm 17:24 OldCoder Might need to reformat 17:24 OldCoder As sfan5 has changed format 17:24 nman3600 I've lost a whole room then and all my pixel art! 17:24 OldCoder It is working? 17:24 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 17:24 OldCoder ? 17:24 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down 17:24 OldCoder nman3600, I *said* 17:24 Megaf oh dear 17:24 nman3600 Yes but there are no places any more 17:24 OldCoder I can get your places back 17:24 * OldCoder sighs 17:24 OldCoder I have a backup 17:24 nman3600 Oh i thought you said Can't 17:24 OldCoder When did you set the places? 17:24 nman3600 I read it wrong 17:24 LemonLake guys, you always complain about me using pulse 17:24 LemonLake now ive started having issues with it, whats better? 17:25 LemonLake whats best? 17:25 OldCoder nman3600, when did you set your places? 17:25 nman3600 OldCoder the secret room i did yesterday at about 7:00 pm 17:25 OldCoder I don't have that 17:25 nman3600 The pixel art one about 4 weeks ago 17:25 Megaf now a days even the minimal would index nil values... 17:25 Megaf 14:16:48: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ...pi/Minetest/Pixel/bin/../games/rpi/mods/default/init.lua:1555: attempt to index a nil value 17:25 OldCoder I should have that 17:25 nman3600 I spent ages making the room 17:25 OldCoder nman3600, the backup is on a truck 17:25 OldCoder Which room? Yesterday or 4 weeks ago? 17:25 OldCoder nman3600, I have logs for yesterday 17:26 OldCoder If you dug there 17:26 nman3600 The Yesterday one 17:26 LemonLake Megaf: probably because its nil? 17:26 OldCoder Shouldn't I be able to get the coords from that? 17:26 nman3600 I nocliped there sadly 17:26 OldCoder Shouldn't I be able to get the coords from that? 17:26 nman3600 I've got no clue 17:26 OldCoder This is about 30010 world? 17:26 sfan5 OldCoder: you can get them 17:26 OldCoder Reviewing logs 17:26 * nman3600 is listening to 5sos 17:26 OldCoder nman3600, I see all the places you dug 17:26 * LemonLake is listening to the ffviii st 17:27 OldCoder nman3600, is the Places mod presently working? 17:27 Megaf now, how do I prevent that from happening? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/games/minimal/mods/default/init.lua#L1155 17:27 nman3600 OldCoder gonna test setting one now 17:27 OldCoder nman3600, respond as I must rest and can try to get your coords back for you 17:27 OldCoder kk 17:27 nman3600 OldCoder i dug in the room so yes 17:28 OldCoder How many hours ago was it? 17:28 LemonLake guys, what's > pavu? 17:28 nman3600 OldCoder at around 19:00 pm yesterday 17:28 Jordach LemonLake, nman3600; come back to me when you start a rave 17:28 OldCoder See exact question please 17:28 OldCoder How many hours ago was it? Respond, please 17:28 SylvieLorxu PulseAudio Volume ...Control? 17:28 nman3600 Jordach, What 17:28 LemonLake yesss.... 17:29 LemonLake whats better than it 17:29 sfan5 Megaf: minimal != the rpi game you have 17:29 LemonLake Jordach: I'm confusid? 17:29 sfan5 also it is not possible for an index nil error to happen on that line 17:29 Jordach [18:26:42] -*- nman3600 is listening to 5sos 17:29 Jordach [18:26:59] -*- LemonLake is listening to the ffviii st 17:29 SylvieLorxu I don't think anything is necessarily better 17:29 LemonLake k 17:29 OldCoder nman3600, I have about 90 seconds before I need to rest. How many hours ago? Not the time. How many hours? 17:29 LemonLake SylvieLorxu: every time I mention it everyone explodes 17:29 LemonLake everyone here seems to hate it 17:29 OldCoder Pulse? 17:29 Megaf sfan5: actually that part of rpi is the same of minimal 17:29 LemonLake and now I'm having problems with it, and I forgot stuff that is better. 17:29 OldCoder Alsa 17:29 nman3600 OldCoder no idea sorry 17:30 SylvieLorxu I think the issue in PulseAudio, not pavu 17:30 Megaf I didnt change the default mod on rpi 17:30 sfan5 Megaf: also it is not possible for an index nil error to happen on that line 17:30 sfan5 you did 17:30 OldCoder nman3600, good grief. Take the current time in your timezone and subtract back to the hour you mentioned. 17:30 LemonLake yes, I get it with mentioning both, SylvieLorxu 17:30 LemonLake you know what I mean 17:30 sfan5 it is simply not possible for a index nil error to occurr there 17:30 OldCoder nman3600, also; is the Places mod working? 17:30 nman3600 OldCoder yep 17:30 OldCoder nman3600, respond please as I must rest very shortly 17:30 sfan5 \o/ 17:30 OldCoder nman3600, I have about 90 seconds before I need to rest. How many hours ago? Not the time. How many hours? 17:30 Megaf I'm sorry, actually I changed the default mod, I remove flowing lava and water 17:30 OldCoder sfan5, tyvm. Consider unified inv support as this mod is important to the project. 17:30 SylvieLorxu LemonLake: I actually didn't, I thought you were looking for another volume control thing for PulseAudio :P But yeah, if you have PulseAudio issues, I'd recommend ALSA 17:31 sfan5 OldCoder: I'll take a look 17:31 Megaf let me get to equivalent line 17:31 LemonLake Okay 17:31 OldCoder nman3600, good grief. Take the current time in your timezone and subtract back to the hour you mentioned. 17:31 nman3600 70 is what my calculator said 17:31 sfan5 SylvieLorxu: ALSA is not a replacement for pulseaudio 17:31 LemonLake Do I need to get ALSA separately? I already have gnome-alsamixer 17:31 nman3600 That can't be right 17:31 OldCoder 70 hours??? You said this was yesterday. nman3600 17:31 nman3600 Exactly 17:31 OldCoder Good grief :P 17:31 LemonLake It would be less than 24 hours, nman. 17:31 OldCoder You don't know how many hours ago this was? 17:31 LemonLake No wonder everyone says your bad at maths. 17:31 * OldCoder needs to rest 17:31 LemonLake What time was it at? 17:31 SylvieLorxu sfan5: I very much consider it one. It doesn't have all features PulseAudio has, but it does the same: make sure applications can play sound 17:31 LemonLake And what time is now? 17:31 nman3600 24:30 i think 17:31 Megaf sfan5: https://github.com/Megaf/RPi/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1155 17:32 nman3600 24 hours 30 mins i think 17:32 OldCoder nman3600, get me the number and I'll look for your big room 17:32 nman3600 No clue 17:32 OldCoder sfan5, tyvm 17:32 OldCoder Zzz 17:32 LemonLake Nman, that would be today. 17:32 LemonLake 18 hours 2 minutes ago. 17:32 OldCoder 7pm last night was not 24 hours 30 minutes 17:32 LemonLake I'll do it for him. 17:32 LemonLake 23 hours 32 minutes. 17:32 nman3600 Thanks Lem 17:32 LemonLake It's 6:32 atm. 17:32 SylvieLorxu LemonLake: You probably already have ALSA, PulseAudio uses ALSA too as back-end. May want to just kill (pulseaudio -k) and then restart PulseAudio 17:33 Megaf Its 14:34 atm 17:33 LemonLake Sylvie, I have a shortcut bound to restart pulse. 17:33 nman3600 Megaf not where i live 17:33 LemonLake But now my microphone doesn't work with it. 17:33 SylvieLorxu Wow, that bad? 17:33 LemonLake Yep. 17:33 SylvieLorxu I haven't had such terrible issues with PulseAudio in a year or two 17:33 rubenwardy Hi all 17:34 LemonLake Problem is now, if I get a sudden skype call, I have to wait 19 minutes for Windows to start up to actually take it. 17:34 nman3600 OldCoder 23 hours and 33 mins 17:34 LemonLake It sucks. 17:34 Megaf Hi 17:34 sfan5 Megaf: check for nil before accessing the inventory; still that error shouldn't happen, the metadata of that chest you have in your world is corrupted 17:34 nman3600 OldCoder has gone hasn't he? 17:35 Megaf sfan5: lots of items are unknown, could that have caused the crash? 17:35 GhostDoge Megaf: the error is in line 1555 isn't it? 17:35 Megaf (Are unknow becaus I removed lots of mods) 17:35 sfan5 Megaf: no; some chests metadata is corrupted 17:35 Megaf 14:16:48: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ...pi/Minetest/Pixel/bin/../games/rpi/mods/default/init.lua:1555: attempt to index a nil value 17:35 Megaf 14:16:48: ERROR[main]: ...pi/Minetest/Pixel/bin/../games/rpi/mods/default/init.lua:1555: in function <...pi/Minetest/Pixel/bin/../games/rpi/mods/default/init.lua:1554> 17:35 LemonLake ^ 17:35 nman3600 Krock, I never realised your server has returned 17:35 LemonLake pos or player would be nil in this case 17:35 LemonLake or even can_dig 17:35 Megaf maybe I'm using a different version of rpi 17:36 LemonLake its most likely just a corrupted chest, as sfan5 said 17:36 Krock nman3600, need an uptime-abonnement? 17:36 sfan5 (not only "most likely", it is) 17:36 nman3600 Krock, Nope 17:36 LemonLake ^ 17:36 Megaf sfan5: GhostDoge: I'm sorry again 17:36 sfan5 no need to be sorry 17:37 Megaf It's another version of RPi that's crashing 17:37 Megaf the line is totally different on init.lua 17:37 sfan5 yay! TV recording encode finished. 17:37 LemonLake well duh 17:37 LemonLake it has different content 17:37 Megaf 1155 sounds = default.node_sound_wood_defaults(), 17:37 Megaf ops 17:37 Calinou someone is taking like 10 minutes to connect to a server I host :'( 17:37 * Megaf can't read number 17:37 LemonLake if its a new version, its most likely that more code has been added to shift it 17:37 LemonLake logic? 17:38 Megaf Line 1555 of init.lua local is_soil = minetest.registered_nodes[minetest.get_node({x=pos.x, y=pos.y-1, z=pos.z}).name].groups.soil 17:38 Megaf line 1554 of init.lua action = function(pos, node) 17:38 Megaf The funcion is the following 17:38 Megaf minetest.register_abm({ 17:38 Megaf nodenames = {"default:sapling"}, 17:39 LemonLake dont post code in irc please 17:39 LemonLake use a pastie 17:39 Megaf I should just change the subgame on that server 17:39 LemonLake "optional but strongly recommended" 17:39 LemonLake > doesn't compile without 17:40 Megaf LemonLake: I'm a little lost, because I made the rpi subgame and RPi subgame 17:40 Megaf RPi is inspired on rpi 17:40 LemonLake megaf: its a corrupted chest.. 17:40 LemonLake no code error 17:41 Megaf ok 17:41 LemonLake either try and fix it or make a new world 17:41 Megaf I will just remove chests 17:41 GhostDoge LemonLake: corrupted chests break saplings interesting 17:41 Megaf no need for them 17:41 LemonLake what is the point of that? 17:41 LemonLake well okay then... 17:41 LemonLake no, they do not affect saplings 17:41 LemonLake you're looking at an entirely different file 17:42 LemonLake which means the code has been MOVED, and will be on a DIFFERENT LINE. LOGIC. 17:44 Megaf done, chests and locked chests removed 17:45 LemonLake why remove them? 17:46 LemonLake "After this operation, 208 MB disk space will be freed." bliss 17:47 Megaf LemonLake: They are not needed 17:47 LemonLake well kayden 17:47 Megaf LemonLake: on my latest subgame, I removed all tools 17:48 Megaf and flowing liquids 17:48 Megaf RPi and pixel are intended to creative games for pixel art 17:48 LemonLake why not just start from a blank slate instead of making a subgame? 17:48 LemonLake ah 17:50 Megaf and to be run on my Raspberry Pi 17:52 * Krock notices, he needs one post for 1300 and 38 in total for 0x1337 17:52 Krock * 0x1EE7 17:53 Calinou I got someone to connect to my server running Carbone, they segfaulted on join 17:53 Krock lol. 17:53 Megaf That's cool 17:53 Megaf !title http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTcyODY 17:53 MinetestBot Megaf: [Phoronix] Intel Expresses Interest In AMD's Mantle API 17:54 Krock possibly a wrong argument when calling an internal function 17:54 LemonLake "to Linux and SteamOS" 17:54 LemonLake when are these guys gonna get it through their thick skulls that they're actually the same thing 17:54 Megaf LemonLake: not that steamos is linux or something 17:55 Megaf :P 17:55 * Krock points hopefully at his MSVC build... 17:56 Megaf people need to understand, SteamOS, ChromiumOS, Android, their TV/Router/Modem Firmware and Ubuntu, all those things are Linux 17:56 Megaf Linux is already the most used OS world wide 17:56 Krock linux as group has much users, but a single distro...eh.... 17:56 LemonLake yep 17:57 LemonLake linux is love linux is life 17:57 Krock I can say that from WinXP, too 17:58 Krock >:) 17:59 Megaf Internet Explorer is in pretty bad shape now a days, I wonder how can still be people using it 17:59 Megaf !title http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp 17:59 MinetestBot Megaf: Browser Statistics 17:59 LemonLake because they dont understand computers 17:59 GhostDoge I can't see any life in Win XP 17:59 LemonLake because they're on a networked setup with only internet explorer 17:59 LemonLake because they work for microsoft 18:00 Krock >> january 2002 85.8 % 18:00 Krock >> may 2014 8.9 % 18:00 LemonLake you see this was before other browsers were commonly used 18:00 Calinou "to Linux and SteamOS" 18:00 Calinou ultimately, both are wrong 8) 18:00 * Megaf uses Opera since Windows 3.11 18:01 LemonLake opera was even on w 3.11? 18:01 * Megaf uses firefox after Opera 12 18:01 * Krock gives +1 Megaf for windows 18:01 Megaf LemonLake: yep 18:01 LemonLake omg my life is complete 18:01 LemonLake back to win 3.11 18:01 Megaf lol 18:01 LemonLake this irritates me 18:02 LemonLake the apt build of this software i want is outdated, and the latest build doesnt even compile right 18:02 Krock create issue post 18:02 LemonLake oh wait 18:02 LemonLake fml 18:03 LemonLake both the readme and sourceforge are outdated instructions 18:03 LemonLake this is a weird thing to compile so i have to use those 18:03 LemonLake but the github was updated 4 hours ago 18:04 * Krock likes january 2007 with 76.1% windowsXP users 18:04 LemonLake "removing 'skype'" U WOT M8 18:09 * Megaf still using XP at work 18:09 Megaf Because I have no choice 18:14 Megaf sfan5: LemonLake: GhostDoge: It wasnt the chest causing the crash 18:14 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/106570/ 18:14 Megaf Theres the crash log and line 1555 18:14 Krock omg I found a Fusl on a Megaf antastic book` 18:14 Krock (contains 4 nicknames) 18:15 Megaf fusl? 18:15 LemonLake Megaf. 18:15 LemonLake Perhaps the thing in that is nil. Have you removed the soil group, dirt, grass, etc? 18:15 LemonLake Does node at pos.x, pos.y-1, pos.z exist? 18:16 Megaf How would I know? 18:16 crazyR does anyone know how i would go about, changing the tiles on a node, from inside the received fields function on that same node? 18:17 * Krock throws a LUA snipped, "IF() THEN", at Megaf 18:17 Megaf you know what? 18:17 Megaf just remode saplings too 18:17 Megaf aint nobody got time fo dat 18:17 Krock crazyR, you can't change node tiles after joining the world 18:18 crazyR damn 18:18 Krock use multiple nodes 18:18 crazyR that would mean i have to create a noode for every single other node in the game lol 18:18 crazyR not a feasable option 18:20 crazyR what im trying to do is, to modify the vending machines so that once set, the inv image of what they are selling is overlayed on the fron of the vending machine 18:20 crazyR *front 18:23 * Megaf learned that the best way to add things is removing things 18:23 crazyR hmm hold on how do the signs do it, the ones where you see the writing on the post. *crazyR goes on an adventure throught github* 18:25 LemonLake megaf 18:25 LemonLake that would be like creating a huge tower, and deciding to add a window to it so starting all over again 18:26 Megaf nah 18:26 LemonLake instead, just remove the wall where you want the window, add supports while building a new wall with added window 18:26 Megaf you add window, remove a chair 18:33 * nman3600 has finished his homework! 18:34 * Krock likes the latest git changes - server lag went from 11s to 3 18:35 * GhostDoge likes latest git changes too but they don't make my crappy connection faster :( 18:35 GhostDoge *his 18:36 Megaf Krock: max_lag is 0.3 on my raspberry pi 18:36 Krock Megaf, reproduceable with 1 player:P 18:36 Megaf 3 players actually 18:36 Krock oh. 18:36 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 18:36 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (437ms) 18:37 Megaf its a pixel art server 18:37 Megaf I had been off line for quite long, but its online again now 18:39 * Krock lieks ponies 18:39 * sfan5 purrs at Krock 18:39 * sfan5 curls up to Krock's lap 18:39 * sfan5 puts Derpy on Krock's head 18:39 * Krock likes derpy 18:41 * Megaf wonders about sfan5's gender, sequality, age and species (tiger, lion, lynx...) 18:41 * Megaf wonders about sfan5's gender, sexuality, age and species (tiger, lion, lynx...) 18:41 * sfan5 meows 18:41 * sfan5 meows 18:41 Megaf Perhaps a lynx that meows 18:42 GhostDoge his see quality! 18:42 Megaf I like lynxes, 18:42 Megaf !tittle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx 18:42 Megaf I mean 18:42 Megaf !title http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx 18:42 MinetestBot Megaf: Lynx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 18:43 Megaf But my favorite feline is 18:43 Megaf !title http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_tabby 18:43 MinetestBot Megaf: Golden tiger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 18:43 Krock I like wrong grammar: Sheeps, Peoples, typos 18:43 Megaf wrong grammar and typos for the win! 18:44 GhostDoge dpi == derps per inch :D 18:44 Megaf oh dear 18:44 Megaf lmao 18:44 Krock wrogn grammer end typos for the lel 19:04 Krock What exactly does /clearobjects? I tested it on dummyworld and noticed no change to before - LuaEntities (dropped items) were still there 19:13 Megaf meh, that thing is huge 19:13 Megaf http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1002894_618852744812205_412035618_n.jpg 19:14 Megaf thats a tiglon cub http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiglon 19:14 Megaf and an adult liger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger 19:14 Megaf and a home sapiens sapiens female 19:14 Megaf homo* 19:15 PilzAdam wtf is a "homo sapiens"? 19:16 PilzAdam is it some kind of internet insect, like the memehopper? 19:16 Megaf kind of 19:16 PilzAdam harrison, could you help me with that? 19:17 * Megaf is a piece of software 19:18 Megaf That's what happens when sfan5 mates with an owl http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Canada_lynx_by_Michael_Zahra.jpg 19:18 Megaf lol 19:19 PilzAdam meowl? 19:20 jp_ That prove there are not strict classifications in biology, Megaf. 19:21 Megaf indeed 19:22 jp_ Biology is very messy (as most as psychology), life is a constant continuum. 19:26 Megaf kaeza: go uruguay go! 19:26 Megaf kaeza: http://zh.clicrbs.com.br/rs/esportes/copa-2014/noticia/2014/06/godin-marca-uruguai-vence-a-italia-e-passa-as-oitavas-da-copa-4534726.html 19:27 jp_ Panem & Circes... 19:28 jp_ *circenses 19:34 Megaf And that's when a cat mates with a polar bear http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Canadian_lynx_by_Keith_Williams.jpg 19:58 * sfan5 goes to sleep 19:59 * Jordach meows at sfan5 19:59 WindHero nya! I want a tasty fish, nya! 20:01 sfan5 WindHero: にゃああー 20:02 WindHero why Chinese, not Japanese? 20:02 Jordach erm 20:03 Jordach other way around :3 20:03 Megaf !rev fageM 20:03 MinetestBot Megaf 20:04 Megaf !rev !5nafs iH 20:04 MinetestBot Hi sfan5! 20:04 Megaf :) 20:04 * GhostDoge tries to download the other voxel game that shall not be mentioned 20:04 * Megaf will do nasty thing in 2 seconds 20:04 Megaf 1 seconds 20:04 Megaf Minecraft! 20:05 * Jordach meows at EvergreenTree 20:05 * Megaf runs 20:05 Jordach GhostDoge, mew 20:05 Megaf 17:02:54: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Admin supplied wrong password 20:05 * kahrl throws a dinnerbone at Megaf 20:05 Megaf I wonder, why those people will use Admin as name? 20:06 EvergreenTree what are we going to do about this "officially NerdCubed" guy 20:06 EvergreenTree He is clearly a faker 20:06 WindHero !rev !kcab nruT !kcab nruT .ton si emit tub ,elbisrever era sdrow ehT 20:06 MinetestBot The words are reversible, but time is not. Turn back! Turn back! 20:06 Jordach EvergreenTree, i already did the ACP check - nuked one post 20:06 Megaf WindHero: how long did it take for you to write that? 20:06 Exio4 zero seconds 20:06 Exio4 rev <<< "adsdffdsfd" 20:07 Jordach he probably typed it in /msg MinetestBot !rev text 20:07 Megaf !rev ?ti tndiD .sdnoces fo elpuoc doog a koot taht teb I 20:07 MinetestBot I bet that took a good couple of seconds. Didnt it? 20:07 sapier https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389 please test this android build it's what most likely will be initial version merged to minetest 20:07 Exio4 you could use /shell for writing that easily 20:07 * Megaf will do 20:07 Megaf (test the build) 20:08 Exio4 /shell -o echo -n "!rev "; rev << "asdf" 20:08 Exio4 !rev 20:08 MinetestBot Exio4: Nothing to reverse. 20:08 Exio4 er 20:08 Exio4 shell is using dash, not bash 20:09 WindHero Megaf: sure did 20:11 WindHero "reversible" was particularly difficult 20:12 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Tooltips rework. 27538ec 2014-06-24T22:11:47+02:00 http://git.io/zwWWyQ 20:12 pandaro hi all 20:12 pandaro hi all 20:14 sapier https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9116 game voting for 0.4.10 please vote! 20:15 Megaf sapier: x86 build from day 23 works perfect 20:15 Megaf tested online 20:15 sapier great 20:16 Megaf I will try to test the ARM version too, but my ARM phone is quite old and low end 20:16 Megaf "Memory Low" "Please free up more memory. 868KB more needed." 20:16 sapier well if it's 2.3.x not sure about x I believe it's been 2 it's supposed to start 20:17 sapier please tell me about not working phones too 20:18 Megaf ok, on this ARM device I get all grey screen 20:19 sapier what android version? 20:19 Megaf it showed up that loading thing, then free up memory message, then grey screen 20:19 Megaf 2.3.7 20:19 Megaf It's a Motorola XT317 20:20 Megaf Kernel Apps_2.6.35.11-perf 20:20 sapier do you have an sd card in there? 20:21 Megaf I think so 20:22 Megaf I just removed some apps 20:22 Megaf lets try again 20:22 Megaf yep. it "loads" and then grey screen 20:23 Megaf I dont get to the menu 20:24 Megaf sapier: my phone is not this one, but its pretty much like it http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_spice_key_xt317-4209.php 20:24 Megaf it says I have used 141 MB of internal storage and have 16 MB free 20:25 sapier http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u8510_ideos_x3-3840.php i got it run there, at least according to ram there's no problem 20:25 sapier but I've got a quite big sd card in there 20:26 sapier 240 x 320 pixels that's gonna be fun ;-) 20:26 Megaf I have 1.2 GB free on my sd hard 20:26 sapier should be enough 20:26 sapier well mine is almost clean as I just installed cyanogen mod to it 20:27 Megaf hm, sapier, mod android apps I can move from the phone's storage do sd, but I can't move minetest 20:27 sapier funny those two devices have same ram same rom same cpu and same gpu 20:28 Megaf sapier: I have 255 MB of RAM free, 125 MB used 20:28 Megaf just closed up some apps, let me try again 20:29 Megaf grey screen 20:29 sapier strange 20:29 Megaf eabi, isnt that soft float? 20:29 sapier I remember that behaviour while layout was broken 20:29 WindHero fun fact: when I play Minecraft PE on my Android 20:29 WindHero it usually is blank at first too 20:30 WindHero if I lock the device then reopen it a minute or two later, it displays right 20:30 * Megaf locks its device 20:30 * Megaf waits 20:30 WindHero but that's MC, not MT 20:30 WindHero 'its'? 20:30 WindHero Megaf isn't human?! 20:31 Jordach WindHero, gimme 10 years and i'll be completely digitally immortal 20:31 WindHero rofl 20:31 Megaf [16:17:23] -*- Megaf is a piece of software 20:31 Megaf [17:30:22] -*- Megaf locks its device 20:32 Megaf [17:30:55] Megaf isn't human?! 20:32 WindHero like Heathcliff on SAO 20:32 Megaf WindHero: still grey, 20:32 WindHero :/ 20:32 WindHero I could hope :P 20:33 Megaf Jordach: I would be fun if I could copy my memory and mind to a computer 20:33 Amaz :P 20:33 Megaf then there would be two Megafs 20:33 Megaf one human and one digital 20:33 Megaf I will use the digital one to run my servers and do my homework 20:34 WindHero there are two anime I have seen to touch that concept: 20:34 markv What's a useful service I can run? 20:34 markv SSH = SSH+SFTP 20:34 WindHero Sword Art Online (SAO), and Robotics;Notes 20:34 WindHero the latter of which I get my avatar from ; 20:35 WindHero *;) 20:35 Megaf y u no have github? 20:35 GhostDoge I thought SAO == Server Active Object 20:35 WindHero who? 20:36 WindHero rofl, sry, no 20:36 WindHero should have known better :P 20:36 WindHero @Megaf: who doesn't have a GitHub? 20:36 Megaf WindHero: you 20:36 WindHero I do 20:37 Megaf not as windhero 20:37 WindHero https://github.com/HeroOfTheWinds 20:37 Megaf Ok mister Hero Of The Windows 20:37 Megaf oops 20:37 WindHero ROFL 20:37 Megaf typo 20:38 Megaf That was actually a typo 20:38 Megaf a funny one indeed 20:39 WindHero zsolt did that once... 20:39 Megaf Im supposed to leave my work now and go home 20:39 WindHero I'm ashamed 20:40 WindHero I have Win8.1 20:40 Megaf Ouch! 20:40 WindHero I wasn't given an option :( 20:40 Amaz :( 20:40 * Jordach has that but still disables the start button 20:40 Jordach i hate it 20:40 WindHero xD 20:40 Amaz What would you have chosen if you could? 20:40 Jordach i prefer using the start screen 20:40 * Megaf feels bad and sorry for WindHero 20:40 WindHero probs 7 20:40 WindHero or 8 20:40 WindHero I got used to 8 20:40 Megaf WindHero: I give you an option, Debian Wheezy with KDE 20:40 Amaz Right. 20:41 WindHero thankfully, I can use the button to take me to the start screen rather than the menu 20:41 Jordach WindHero, i use the pixels, 0, 1080 to do that 20:42 EvergreenTree WindHero: I do feel bad for you 20:42 WindHero Amaz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZNqs0YgWkM&feature=kp 20:42 EvergreenTree at least windows 8 is a bit snappier then other windows 20:42 Megaf !title 20:42 MinetestBot Megaf: Lord of The Rings - The Hobbit (Piano/Cello Cover) - ThePianoGuys - YouTube 20:42 EvergreenTree *windows version 20:43 WindHero yeah 20:43 Megaf snapier because no Aero 20:43 WindHero After the warranty runs out 20:43 Megaf and no lots of anumations 20:43 Jordach and people chastisise me because of it 20:43 Megaf animations* 20:43 WindHero sticking in an SSD and changing OS 20:43 Jordach people actually told me that 8 is shit 20:43 Jordach and blue screens keep happening, i've had a total of two so far, since march 20:43 WindHero I find the OS is cleaner and faster 20:43 Amaz WindHero, Nice! 20:44 Megaf Jordach: really? 20:44 Jordach yup 20:44 Megaf I havent had a Kernel Panic in yers 20:44 Jordach one was memory management because i had my ram underclocked 20:44 Megaf years 20:44 WindHero I had 0 since I starte using any win8 20:44 Jordach and it shat itself 20:44 Megaf last time it was because of a hardware fault 20:44 Jordach (thank you blender) 20:44 WindHero urk 20:44 Megaf AFK 20:45 WindHero I've had some crazy stuff happen with blender, but never a full system crash 20:45 WindHero usually due to subsurf 20:45 Jordach WindHero, i've tried my best to kill minetest 20:45 Amaz But a grand piano in the middle of some woods... 20:45 Jordach with the full on HDX, and that didn't do it 20:45 WindHero ikr? 20:45 WindHero I saw your screenshot 20:45 Amaz Mad! 20:46 WindHero Amaz: those guys actually got a grand piano onto the great wall of China 20:46 WindHero no green screen 20:48 Amaz Right........ 20:49 WindHero http://thepianoguys.com/portfolio/kung-fu-piano-cello-ascends/ 20:51 Amaz Wow. 20:55 EvergreenTree https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddFAIkUb7A0 20:55 EvergreenTree !title 20:55 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: [Drumstep] - Varien - Valkyrie (feat. Laura Brehm) [Monstercat Release] - YouTube 20:55 EvergreenTree :3 20:55 EvergreenTree I love Varien 21:32 crazyR_ has anyone got a good calculation for working out image pixal ratios with formspec image sizes? 22:02 OldCoder sfan5, Hi. 1. Thanks for the Places patch. 2. I feel that Places or similar mods are important. Creations need to be documented and not lost. We can make catalogues. 3. Send me any patch you feel is useful to decide about corruption in LevelDB worlds. 22:05 kaeza kaeza: go uruguay go! <-- <3 22:06 Exio4 costa rica++ 22:06 kaeza RIP Italy 22:06 Exio4 best group ever 22:06 Exio4 two europeans, two from latin america 22:06 Exio4 latin america wins 22:06 Exio4 \o/ 22:24 EvergreenTree In python, if I want to wait until the value of a certain variable is true, how would I do that? 22:24 EvergreenTree I know how to do it in c, but python's while loops don't work that way 22:25 Exio4 while var != True: ?? 22:25 Exio4 i don't know :P 22:27 EvergreenTree nope 22:27 EvergreenTree it expects an indent 22:27 EvergreenTree and a space doesn't count 22:28 Exio4 while var != True: 22:28 Exio4 var = True 22:28 Exio4 that doesn't work? 22:35 EvergreenTree I'll try 22:36 EvergreenTree nah, that won't work with my current use of said variable 22:36 EvergreenTree afk 22:53 SylvieLorxu EvergreenTree: It shouldn't need an indent. Just needs to be indented properly to the rest of the code :P 23:10 WindHero https://mediacru.sh/ncldqcypHCwW 23:11 VanessaE WindHero: what in the hell is that? 23:11 WindHero CaveRealms 23:11 VanessaE looks freaky 23:12 VanessaE I kinda like it 23:12 WindHero :3 23:12 WindHero the new fungus biome 23:12 WindHero added the glowing emerald 23:12 WindHero still need to commit the changes 23:15 WindHero derp 23:23 Megaf kaeza; o/ 23:23 Megaf kaeza; I want the final to be Brasil vs Uruguay 23:23 diemartin another "maracanazo" eh? 23:24 Exio4 cpufreq stats: 4.00 GHz:16.10%, 3.00 GHz:2.53%, 2.40 GHz:3.51%, 1.80 GHz:3.42%, 1.40 GHz:74.44% (346741) 23:24 Exio4 \o/ 23:24 Megaf AMD? 23:24 Exio4 of course 23:24 Exio4 i'm poor remember 23:26 kaeza >_> 23:27 Exio4 13CPU~Hexa core AMD FX-6100 Six-Core (-MCP-) clocked at Min:1400.000Mhz Max:4000.000Mhz 13Kernel~3.14-1-amd64 x86_64 13Up~7:06 13Mem~2722.9/11989.5MB 13HDD~1000.2GB(83.2% used) 13Procs~265 13Client~WeeChat 0.4.3 13inxi~2.1.16   23:33 VanessaE fast box. 23:37 Exio4 not _that_ fast 23:37 VanessaE faster than mine, at least CPU-wise 23:38 Exio4 i wouldn't say that 23:38 VanessaE I'm still at a puny 2.8 GHz Phenom II X6 1055T :) 23:38 Exio4 your IPC is hell more than mine 23:38 Exio4 yours overclock to 3.3 GHz would eat my cpu like it was a celeron 23:38 VanessaE wat? 23:38 EvergreenTree I have an AMD FX-4300 23:39 EvergreenTree at 3.8ghz 23:39 EvergreenTree It's good 23:39 Exio4 yours overclocked* 23:39 VanessaE I thought those FX chips were supposed to kick the shit out of everything prior? 23:39 EvergreenTree good enough for me at least 23:39 Exio4 nah 23:39 EvergreenTree I think it has the "Piledriver" architecture 23:39 Exio4 this is a first gen FX 23:39 VanessaE oh 23:39 EvergreenTree *mine has 23:39 Exio4 <- bulldozer 23:39 VanessaE I wonder what mine has 23:41 EvergreenTree Probably bulldozer (not sure though) 23:42 Megaf :) 23:42 Megaf !title https://github.com/Megaf/Pixel/commit/5d1c2a63f7e3defbfab43a5152cdfbce284067df 23:42 MinetestBot Megaf: Added the following colors: Aquamarine, Cornflower Blue, Hot Pink, Indig... · 5d1c2a6 · Megaf/Pixe[...] 23:42 Exio4 wut? 23:43 Zeno` 5d1c2a6 <-- what colour is that? :-o 23:45 VanessaE a sort of brown, I imagine 23:46 VanessaE Exio4: Thuban seem familiar to you? 23:46 Exio4 hmm no 23:46 VanessaE EvergreenTree: ^^^' 23:46 EvergreenTree ? 23:46 Exio4 ahm 23:46 VanessaE eh, forget it. 23:46 Exio4 you mean phenom gen 23:46 Exio4 don't you? 23:46 Exio4 i thought you meant nick 23:47 VanessaE Phenom is the family. Thuban is the core arch on mine apparently. 23:47 Exio4 i need two HDDs + 1 SSD 23:48 Exio4 mirror RAID of 2tb caviar blacks with a 128gb SSD 23:48 Exio4 that is what i want to have this year ^ 23:48 EvergreenTree I want to swap out my mobo, get a samsung 128gb ssd, and get 4gb more of the same ram I already have 23:48 EvergreenTree oh and get a better heat synk 23:49 EvergreenTree *heatsink 23:50 Exio4 i would love a better cooler, a new chassis, more ram, or anything 23:50 Exio4 but HDD is hell more important 23:50 Exio4 atm if this HDD dies i'm dead 23:50 EvergreenTree have anywhere you can backup to? 23:51 EvergreenTree I have a 1tb external drive 23:51 EvergreenTree I put my backups on it 23:51 Exio4 i have a whole TB of data i didn't backup 23:51 EvergreenTree In my computer I have a 500gb drive 23:51 EvergreenTree that's bad 23:51 Exio4 1tb in my computer 23:51 EvergreenTree oh gosh 23:51 EvergreenTree You do need another 1tb drive 23:52 Exio4 i need two 2tb hdds 23:54 Exio4 i have some spare CPU power that i could use for encrypting the whole disk