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00:00 VanessaE Jordach: also, 6.133 GB with HDX 256 at Creative's spawn after pitching and panning my view around and letting every last bit of map around me load up
00:00 VanessaE no preload, all settings enabled except for parallax, have not opened the inventory yet.
00:01 Exio4 i always use preload
00:01 Exio4 no idea why
00:01 Exio4 lets see how much MT uses here
00:02 VanessaE Jordach: how do you fare with 256?
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00:02 VanessaE do the same as I did, Creative spawn, just pan/pitch around, let it all load up, but don't walk around
00:03 Mallot1 hey guys sorry if i made you angry at me
00:03 Exio4 why isn't minetest using a whole core while preloading item textures
00:03 Exio4 it doesn't even use 60%
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00:03 Exio4 two thirds of my CPU.. don't even that
00:04 awesomedevguy its alright Mallot1 :)
00:04 Mallot1 :D :)
00:04 Exio4 can you talk with yourself in another channel?
00:04 Mallot1 awesomedevguy: what do you develop? :)
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00:05 VanessaE no one's angry at you Mallot1.  Just please stop talking about non-Minetest stuff in here when the conversation is clearly going about important stuff related to it.
00:05 VanessaE (it's okay to go off-topic if the rest of us already are)
00:05 Mallot1 oh ok :)
00:05 Mallot1 see ya
00:06 Mallot1 and thanls
00:06 Mallot1 *thanks
00:06 Exio4 VanessaE: how well is your system behaving with hdx-128 + item preloading?
00:06 * Mallot1 is AFC
00:06 Exio4 s/your system/minetest/
00:06 Exio4 in your setup
00:06 VanessaE Exio4: I don't use the 128px size, and I don't use preload.  lemme see what the 256px size does, but first I'll turn on some swap :P
00:09 Exio4 that is why i asked you, 128px is "small" then use preload, then 256px size and the we extrapolate
00:10 VanessaE Exio4: well as you saw, Jordach was able to run HDX512 with 5 GB RAM usage.  I could even get it to stay within 10GB.
00:10 VanessaE unless he was not using aniso/mip-map mode
00:10 VanessaE I know that takes some RAM
00:11 VanessaE (not sure how much, I seem to recall around 25% more?)
00:11 Exio4 in your survival server, item preload + hdx-128 is  4.5gb~ of ram
00:11 Exio4 with "max settings"
00:12 VanessaE windows or linux?
00:12 Exio4 linux of course
00:12 Exio4 that is why i asked you
00:12 VanessaE got windows handy somewhere to try the same thing?
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00:12 Exio4 a w7 VM
00:12 VanessaE try it.
00:12 VanessaE I'm genuinely curious.
00:13 Exio4 which windows build is the "newest"?
00:13 Eater4 The one on the website?
00:13 VanessaE Exio4: sfan5 has recent builds on his forum page
00:13 Exio4 -dev build
00:13 Exio4 k, will check them
00:13 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1523
00:14 Exio4 i hope 8gb of ram are enough for the VM
00:14 Piggybear87 Red head + 6 hour fishing trip (starting at noon) + NO sunblock = PPPPPAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNNN!!!!!!!
00:14 Piggybear87 I'm such an idiot...
00:15 Exio4 i forced my system to swap a bit
00:15 Exio4 (for keeping some cache free)
00:17 Piggybear87 Second EXACT trip (except one was fresh one was salt) in 3 days... Burn, on top of burn... GOD! I hurt!
00:19 Exio4 my poor cpu is at 40C :(
00:19 VanessaE sowwy :)
00:19 Exio4 this is the sad part: /dev/sda4       756G  750G  6.8G 100% /home
00:19 Exio4 my /home is nearly full
00:19 Piggybear87 GOSH!* I apologize to the religious people. I don't mean to offend. :)
00:20 VanessaE I'm moving files off to spinning rust now to make room for some decent amount of swap on the SSD.
00:21 VanessaE (it's all crap that doesn't need low-latency/high-bandwidth access anyway)
00:21 VanessaE Piggybear87: damn, that's gotta suck :(
00:21 Exio4 basically everything but the system itself
00:21 VanessaE Exio4: not quite :P
00:21 Piggybear87 VanessaE, Yeah... Lol.
00:22 VanessaE just stuff in my homedir that isn't actively used much
00:22 VanessaE old coin wallets, website stuff, images, etc.
00:22 VanessaE 'round about 50GB of excess
00:22 Exio4 i would say music, images, webbrowser profiles, coding stuff (source files, executables files, etc)
00:23 Exio4 ~/.minetest could be in a SSD
00:23 Exio4 but minetest's sources.. why
00:24 Exio4 compiling is normally cpu-bounded, not IO-bounded ;P
00:24 Exio4 anyway, 10min left
00:24 Exio4 where is the ~/.minetest/cache in windows?
00:25 VanessaE there, 43 GB moved.
00:25 VanessaE went from 70GB in my homedir to 27.
00:26 Exio4 my homedir is 756 GB and 480gb~ are music
00:26 Exio4 then 200~ are backups of old harddisks i have around but could break at any moment
00:26 Exio4 (basically easier access for my old data)
00:26 Exio4 i need a RAID 10 now
00:26 Exio4 before even buying ram, a new cpu, a fan, a psu, or anything
00:26 VanessaE well 27GB of homedir, plus another 343 of "storage" and a terabyte of backup media
00:27 Exio4 two fucking harddisks
00:27 VanessaE (storage contains music etc)
00:27 Exio4 2tb and a damn mirror raid for now though
00:28 * VanessaE turns on 16GB of swap now.
00:28 Exio4 swap ftw
00:28 VanessaE 43 GB out, 16 GB in, net gain 27 GB :)
00:29 Exio4 -/+ buffers/cache:      10370       1619
00:29 Exio4 Swap:        16383         60      16323
00:29 Exio4 here ^
00:29 Exio4 12gb of ram, 16gb of swap in a poor hdd
00:30 Exio4 where is the slow part, sfan5's server or my network
00:30 VanessaE Mem:      16433256   16218588     214668      48336     247984   12751372
00:30 VanessaE -/+ buffers/cache:    3219232   13214024
00:30 VanessaE Swap:     16777212          0   16777212
00:30 Exio4 free -m :P
00:31 VanessaE here goes nothin'
00:32 VanessaE running minetest with HDX512 again.
00:32 VanessaE 8.5GB so far.
00:32 VanessaE 9
00:33 VanessaE amazingly, it ain't crashing
00:33 Exio4 see! :P
00:33 Exio4 swap is good!
00:33 VanessaE well thing is, there's only 360 KB of swap in use.
00:33 VanessaE and yet there's 178 MB of free RAM
00:34 VanessaE minetest's frame rate utterly sucks ass though
00:34 VanessaE like 2 fps
00:34 VanessaE probably because my video card lacks the RAM to handle it
00:35 VanessaE so far, I'm up to 12GB of RAM used, and now it's diving pretty good into swap
00:35 VanessaE almost a gig in there.
00:35 VanessaE yet there's STILL some RAM free.  weird.
00:36 VanessaE 12 GB now.
00:36 VanessaE oh, already said that.
00:36 VanessaE 13.9 virtual, btw.
00:37 VanessaE shall I close it now? :)
00:38 EvergreenTree yes, probably
00:38 EvergreenTree :P
00:39 EvergreenTree what cpu are you using VanessaE?
00:39 VanessaE 14.267 GB virtual now, and I haven't done anything but stand here at the spawn, looking around.
00:39 EvergreenTree is it an amd?
00:39 VanessaE EvergreenTree: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (2.8 GHz) w/16GB RAM, and an ATI HD6870 GPU with 1GB onboard.
00:40 EvergreenTree ah
00:40 EvergreenTree I have an AMD FX-4300 (3.8ghz) w/4GB RAM and an AMMD Radeon 7750
00:40 EvergreenTree with 1gb of vram
00:43 Exio4 i hate sfan5's server
00:44 VanessaE why?
00:45 EvergreenTree sfan5 has a server?
00:46 Exio4 http://sfan5.pf-control.de/minetest-builds/​minetest_64/minetest-0.4.9-cb3b42e-win64.7z downloading this file is a pain
00:46 Exio4 i tried downloading it in the windows vm
00:46 Exio4 i'm going to download it in the host with wget --continue
00:46 VanessaE what's wrong with it?
00:46 VanessaE looks like an ordinary file link to me
00:46 Exio4 it stops downloading randomly
00:46 VanessaE ohhhh
00:47 Exio4 first it was at 20kb then 9mb then 13mb
00:47 Exio4 and it is also slow as hell, no idea why
00:47 Exio4 my network is shit, but it can do more than 20kb/s
00:48 Exio4 man, closures and high order functions combined with lambda functions are full awesomeness
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00:52 awesomess3 can servers carry malware?
00:52 EvergreenTree no
00:52 VanessaE they can carry it but they can't pass it onto clients.
00:52 VanessaE or rather,
00:52 EvergreenTree nothing that can harm your computer anyway
00:52 awesomess3 some servers hang at: "Media..."
00:52 VanessaE they can carry it, and they can pass it on to clients, but the clients can't actually DO anything with it.
00:52 VanessaE awesomess3: that's just minetest glitchiness.
00:53 EvergreenTree awesomess3: that's just because they either have a ton of textures/mods, or it is just minetest being silly
00:53 VanessaE awesomess3: my creative and survival servers have some 35 GB of media to transfer
00:53 VanessaE so clients will sit there in the "Media" step for a long while.
00:53 Exio4 35GB?
00:54 VanessaE yep
00:54 Exio4 i hope you mean 35MB
00:54 VanessaE er 35 MB
00:54 VanessaE yeah :)
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00:55 VanessaE 33 MB, to be exact.
00:55 Exio4 that is better ;P
00:55 awesomess3 oh jeez. WoW takes 26.8 GB
00:55 EvergreenTree why hello there Enke
00:55 VanessaE awesomess3: sorry, typo.  it's 33 MB, not GB. :P
00:55 LazyJ What reasons are there to compile Minetest with cmake_build_type minsizerel? The README says that it will make the executable smaller but what's the advantage/disadvantage?
00:55 VanessaE no idea LazyJ
00:56 LazyJ What!? I've stumped the mavin of Minetest?  :0)-
00:56 awesomess3 probably minimal assembly is my guess LazyJ
00:58 awesomess3 gcc compile flags are strange in my opinion. -O2, -O3 for example, are different optimizations that have different advantages that are strange. Some make the executable smaller, some make the program more faster, but all in all, the effects are minimal, *shrugs*
00:59 LazyJ Hmmm... so it's probably one of those things that isn't practical but it there just because we can.
00:59 LazyJ *it's there just...
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01:00 Sokomine perhaps it is relevant under some conditions
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01:00 Sokomine it's amazing that mt runs on android devices as well. that's far less good hardware than a desktop
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01:01 awesomess3 VanessaE, I looked at the server list, and I usually choose your servers to join, but is it true that there are like 0 or 1 people in the game?
01:01 VanessaE yup
01:01 awesomess3 VanessaE, you've got like 6 servers
01:01 LazyJ mHmm... I'd like to get my hands on an android of my own but I don't want to spend the money on a monthly phone contract.
01:01 VanessaE I have 7 servers, and they aren't played much lately.
01:02 awesomess3 :(
01:02 Mallot1_ LazyJ: you don't need a contract
01:02 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/va​nessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html
01:02 VanessaE bottom graph.
01:02 LazyJ Quantity of players isn't the same as quality of players.
01:02 Sokomine they ought to be frequented more, those servers. they are good ones
01:02 Mallot1_ LazyJ: if you get a tablet. I have a tablet myself you can get one from Walmart for $80 RCA
01:03 LazyJ I'd rather have a small group of well behaved players than a chaotic day-care center of brats.
01:03 Sokomine that's true as well. opening a new server to everyone will make a bunch of tablet users join which usually have anything in mind but building something
01:03 Mallot1_ i find it hard to build on Buildcraft but i got used to it
01:03 Mallot1_ can't find any servers though
01:04 Sokomine mallot1: try sapiers latest build. that's at least a more or less official one
01:04 awesomess3 I do like single player though, it's kind of scary being alone though...in a static world...
01:04 Mallot1_ oh cool thanks Sokomine :D
01:04 LazyJ I'm curious but I know I'd have to choose between putting the tablet down to have my coffee and donut or play Minetest. ;)-
01:04 Sokomine and yes, i have difficulty controlling building with that android client as well. it's very diffrent from mouse and keyboard. amazing that people sometimes manage to build something with it at all
01:04 Mallot1_ i built a dirt house
01:05 Mallot1_ and tested a dirt to lava mod for fun
01:05 Sokomine awesomess3: mob mods help. try sapiers animals modpack (mobf). it works well in singleplayer. you'll find the occasional trader and many mobs
01:05 Mallot1_ needless to say it crashed ;)
01:05 Sokomine my random_buildings mod may also be of intrest. it adds lumberjacks that will try to sell you wood
01:06 Mallot1_ Sokomine: the one with the villagers?
01:06 Sokomine they're not yet villagers in my mod. traders exist, and houses for villages exist, but they do not spawn in combination yet
01:06 VanessaE Mallot1, stop changing names.
01:06 Mallot1 oh sorry
01:07 Mallot1 oh must of been a different mod :)
01:07 Sokomine i'm experimenting with nores mapgen lately as that integrates villages very well into the map. adventuretest spawns villagers
01:07 Mallot1 cool :D
01:07 Mallot1 i hope one day villagers and the cool workers mod get added to the game
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01:09 VanessaE they won't.
01:09 VanessaE minetest_game is dead.
01:09 Mallot1 so here not developing it anyone?
01:09 Mallot1 *there
01:09 Mallot1 *anymore
01:09 VanessaE they're*
01:09 Mallot1 aw man xD
01:10 VanessaE no, it's frozen.
01:10 VanessaE no one wants to touch it
01:10 VanessaE and as for the engine, everyone's obsessed with the G*d damned server.
01:10 Mallot1 aw
01:10 Mallot1 i hope we see 1.0.0 though
01:10 VanessaE the client is being left to rot whilst at the same time being buried under features that, while very nice to see, don't help its performance any
01:10 VanessaE and yes, I'm pissed.
01:11 EvergreenTree evergreen.shutdown("Cya")
01:11 EvergreenTree Cya
01:11 VanessaE ciao
01:12 Mallot1 peace
01:12 Mallot1 return 0;
01:13 Piggybear87 NO ONE SEEDS THE SHIZNIT I ACTUALLY WANT!
01:13 Enke VanessaE: Sorry if you answered before and I missed it, but is there a list or compilation of homedecor's recipes?
01:13 Mallot1 like what
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01:14 Mallot1 Piggybear87 ^^
01:14 VanessaE Enke: http://minetest-home-decor.wikia.​com/wiki/Minetest_Home_Decor_Wiki
01:14 Piggybear87 Jawga Boyz - Kuntry
01:14 Enke Thank you.
01:14 Mallot1 never heard of it
01:14 Piggybear87 There's 1 song I want from the album. It's called Ridin High.
01:15 Piggybear87 If you're redneck AT ALL (and like rap), I suggest you youtube it.
01:15 Mallot1 Maroon5 - Maps is pretty good
01:15 Mallot1 sorry man no redness of the neck here xD
01:16 Piggybear87 Lol. I mean if you like country, the country lifestyle, or fried chicken. Lmfao!
01:16 Piggybear87 OR!
01:16 Mallot1 lol :D
01:16 Piggybear87 OR!
01:16 Piggybear87 OR!
01:16 Mallot1 OR!
01:16 Mallot1 ||!
01:16 Piggybear87 If you like cars/trucks
01:17 Piggybear87 .
01:17 Piggybear87 Jacked up trucks to be exact.
01:18 Mallot1 this cars tight: http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&​q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&d​ocid=RTFX-lWLE-ZVpM&tbnid=nLP-fIrHW9ey3M:​&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fteamsp​eed.com%2Fforums%2Fporsches-past-general-pors​che-news%2F873-all-shades-blue-offered-porsch​e.html&ei=z-igU5rdC7LFsATm64DgAg&bvm=​bv.69137298,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNGW7jYtkmzIVZ​wZfRKfm_403_eozw&ust=1403140676764041
01:19 Mallot1 well i was a blue proche
01:19 Mallot1 porche
01:19 Piggybear87 No...
01:21 Mallot1 well anyone host any new servers lately?
01:28 Piggybear87 FINALLY! I found a site that has seeders for that damn album... All of this trouble for 1 stupid song!
01:28 Mallot1 you could ofo got it on youtube probably though ;)
01:32 Piggybear87 I want it on a CD, I can listen to it on Youtube if I'm at home, but not in the car.
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01:33 Mallot1 you could take download the video
01:33 Mallot1 then take the .mp4 and convert it to .mp3 or wav or your choice. then burn it to a CD :)
01:36 Piggybear87 Too much work for a song. Lol.
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01:38 asl piggybear: youtube-dl -x link
01:39 asl that isn't much, just one line of code to type in the terminal
01:39 Mallot1 piggybear no only takes 10 minutes and you have a whole CD now :D
01:41 VanessaE Mallot1: take mp4 -> mp3 -> CD?   FAIL.   Rip mp4 -> WAV -> CD.  Or just save the mp4 audio and play it in your "mp3" player directly.
01:41 VanessaE (most of them will play mp4 audio just fine)
01:42 Mallot1 yeah i know, i wanted it to work on 90% of devices
01:42 VanessaE mp4 works on 95% of devices.
01:42 Mallot1 hmm i didn't know that
01:42 Mallot1 well u learn something new everyday :D
01:42 Exio4 i'd use "high quality mp3"
01:42 VanessaE besides, don't go mp4 -> mp3 because that introduces an extra layer of lossy conversion unless you're able to actually extract raw mp3 audio from the file.
01:43 asl the thing is that youtube encode the audio to a lower quality
01:43 Exio4 the mp4 already has shitty quality
01:43 Exio4 if you want to listen nice stuff search it in TPB
01:43 Exio4 nice quality stuff*
01:44 Exio4 oh
01:44 Exio4 yeah, you're torrenting
01:44 Exio4 +1 for that :D
01:44 VanessaE I used to
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01:44 VanessaE got yelled at by some copyright group for downloading an episode of House once.
01:44 VanessaE decided to just not bother after that.
01:45 VanessaE now if I want some song, I rip it from youtube or last.fm or so.
01:45 Exio4 torrent over an offshore VPS
01:46 Exio4 internet <-> VPS <-> you
01:46 VanessaE if I were gonna pay for an offshore VPS, I'd just pay for the damn music :P
01:46 Exio4 a low-end VPS is very cheap
01:46 Exio4 anyway, magnatune <3
01:51 Exio4 i just realized my VM was still running so i installed mt and now i'll check the ram usage
01:52 Exio4 translated minetest sucks
01:52 Exio4 english mt > spanish mt
01:52 VanessaE define "sucks"
01:53 Exio4 stuff doesn't feel right, i'm too used to the english words
01:53 Mallot1 there's a spanish MT?
01:53 VanessaE oh translated, literally :P
01:53 VanessaE I thought you meant figuratively
01:53 Mallot1 i never saw it on the site
01:53 VanessaE so how's the mem usage compared to the same conditions in the linux build?
01:53 Exio4 loading
01:54 Exio4 850mb and going up
01:54 Exio4 way slower than under linux though
01:54 Exio4 poor FX
01:55 Exio4 hahah
01:55 Exio4 HAHAHA, i made jackd crash \o/
01:56 VanessaE heh
01:58 Exio4 1.2gb of ram usage and rising
01:59 Exio4 4 minutes was 350 mb
01:59 VanessaE jeesh
01:59 Exio4 but keeps rising
02:00 Exio4 i guess this is caused by the slow virtualized cpu
02:00 Exio4 my host system runs at full speed
02:01 Exio4 1.350mb
02:01 Exio4 compared to 4~ in linux
02:02 VanessaE what texture size?
02:02 VanessaE what what settings are you using?
02:02 Exio4 hdx-128
02:03 Exio4 the difference between both setups where shaders, 3d clouds and particles
02:03 VanessaE hm
02:03 Exio4 (the one i thought that don't cause a lot of ram usage?)
02:04 Exio4 i can connect again with all the settings
02:04 VanessaE afaik the only setting in-game that can cause some RAM usage is mip-map + anisotropic filter
02:04 Exio4 connecting again
02:04 VanessaE + bumpmapping if you have the normaps pack
02:04 Exio4 item preloading remember
02:04 VanessaE normalmaps(
02:05 VanessaE well that too but I meant extra settings - items will load up eventually anyway just by paging through your inventory.
02:05 VanessaE and playign the game etc.
02:06 VanessaE so turn on *everything* in both host and guest that they are both capable of and compare RAM usage.  also try the 256px pack.
02:06 Exio4 host = everything enabled = 30 FPS
02:06 Exio4 guest = everything disabled = 3 FPS
02:06 Exio4 :D
02:06 Exio4 i turned on everything in guest
02:06 Exio4 i'm trying with 128
02:06 VanessaE export CXXFLAGS="-O3"
02:06 VanessaE cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1
02:06 VanessaE my build settings ^^^^
02:07 Exio4 i only used -DENABLE_CURL=1
02:07 Exio4 in host
02:08 Exio4 400~ ram of swap used
02:08 Exio4 the system works like nothing every happened
02:08 Piggybear87 !up minetest.org 30011
02:08 MinetestBot minetest.org:30011 is up (873ms)
02:08 Exio4 mb
02:08 Exio4 i would like more ram though
02:08 VanessaE try that again, Exio4..  grammar FAIL :)
02:09 Exio4 downloadmoreram.com
02:10 Exio4 1gb atm, still loading
02:13 Exio4 using the same ram as before
02:13 VanessaE that's in the guest?
02:13 Exio4 1.3
02:13 Exio4 yeah
02:13 Exio4 windows vm
02:14 VanessaE and what's linux do again with the same texture pack and settings?
02:14 VanessaE 4+ GB?
02:14 Exio4 4gb a bit more
02:14 VanessaE and you're dead certain that the windows guest is able to use ALL of the same features linux is?
02:15 Exio4 actually more
02:15 Exio4 [21:11:30] <Exio4> in your survival server, item preload + hdx-128 is  4.5gb~ of ram
02:15 VanessaE ?
02:15 Exio4 [21:11:56] <Exio4> with "max settings"
02:15 Exio4 lemme recheck
02:17 Exio4 *** Error in `./bin/minetest': corrupted double-linked list: 0x0000000002f17fc0 ***
02:17 Exio4 wtf is this
02:17 Exio4 is this a known bug
02:18 Exio4 a crash that came from nonwhere "corrupted double-linked list"
02:18 Exio4 and i can't reproduce
02:19 VanessaE that's a glibc trap is all I know about that one
02:19 VanessaE but idk the cause
02:20 Exio4 running two minetests
02:20 Exio4 one in host and one in guest with exaxt same settings
02:20 VanessaE hah
02:20 VanessaE out of memory :D
02:20 Exio4 nah
02:20 Exio4 host = 5gb (aproximation) + vm (5gb)
02:20 Exio4 =10gb
02:23 Exio4 40% of cpu usage (average of all cpus)
02:25 VanessaE so the linux build is still using ~4 times as much RAM as the windows build?
02:25 Exio4 3.5~ :P
02:26 VanessaE close enough
02:26 VanessaE please, go mention this in -dev
02:26 Exio4 1.2 -> 4.5
02:26 VanessaE in GREAT detail
02:26 Exio4 3.75
02:26 VanessaE this shit needs documented that I'm not the only one with this problem
02:26 Exio4 great detail?
02:26 VanessaE yes
02:26 VanessaE settings used, texture packs used, OS's involved, etc etc etc
02:27 VanessaE I'm tired of everyone thinking I'm the only one who has these problems, and it's always because no one else (besides you and Jordach) ever bothers to fucking TRY.
02:28 VanessaE and when they DO try, they don't try hard enough to reproduce the problem
02:28 Exio4 lemme check a last thing
02:28 VanessaE and when they start to come close, "oh, well I'm too <lazy, busy, tired> to deal with this now" or "well I don't care about this anyway."
02:30 Exio4 the VM is still connecting
02:31 VanessaE Just to rule it out:  I turned off aniso, mipmap, trilinear because I know they take a small amount of RAM.  my FPS shot WAY back up probably because my GPU can actually handle the load now, but it's still using over 12 GB of RAM.
02:32 VanessaE 13 now.
02:33 * VanessaE turns off the normalmaps.
02:35 VanessaE 9.5 GB without normalmaps.
02:35 VanessaE that's as lean as I can make it.
02:35 VanessaE that's still almost twice as much as Jordach was using WITH normalmaps!
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02:40 Exio4 ehm
02:40 Exio4 what happens when shaders aren't supported?
02:40 Exio4 red screen, no?
02:41 VanessaE yeah
02:42 Exio4 kk
02:46 Exio4 ram usage went to 1.8 in the win build o.O
02:46 Exio4 the same as the ram usage when i disabled shaders
02:47 Exio4 thhat is why i asked VanessaE
02:47 Exio4 i should sleep though
02:49 VanessaE ok then, good night, and thanks for reporting that in the channel
03:00 Mallot1 goodnight :)
03:04 Piggybear87 <VanessaE>  but it's still using over 12 GB of RAM
03:04 Piggybear87 Holy hell!
03:06 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1386
03:09 Piggybear87 Wow, what a rant. Lol. I don't have that much, if it tried that with me, my machine would melt like an ice cube in hell... Lol.
03:15 Piggybear87 Good night all. I will leave this on, if you need something PM me and I'll get it in the morning.
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05:26 sfan5 Exio4: complain to http://php-friends.de/ about shitty dl speeds
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06:09 they_greefed_my_ hi   on a server with 'protector' mode   how do I make a protection node ?
06:09 they_greefed_my_ protector mod
06:10 they_greefed_my_ I have looked through the wiki/forum posts and web searched for details but can find none
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06:30 VanessaE they_greefed_my_: sounds like glomies old protection mod
06:30 VanessaE I didn't know anyone still used that
06:31 VanessaE I think you use a square of silver ingots to make the protection node
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06:45 they_greefed_my_ hi   on a server with 'protector' mod , how do I make a protection node ?                    I have looked through the wiki/forum posts and web searched for details but can find none
06:46 they_greefed_my_ ah    just saw your answer V
06:46 they_greefed_my_ thank you      I'll give it a try  :-)
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07:01 nman3600 markv: I've reached maximum amount of land i can protect can i make another account to protect more?
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07:11 nman3600 OldCoder I've reached maximum amount of land i can protect can i make another account to protect more? (this is on marks server btw)
07:11 OldCoder nman3600, let markv decide. I have no objection but it's a significant policy decision.
07:11 nman3600 I need to claim more land for making pixel art which mark said he'll give me supermoderator if he likes it
07:12 nman3600 I've asked markv
07:12 OldCoder If you wish to do this tonight, go ahead and tell markv I said O.K.
07:12 OldCoder Ah
07:12 OldCoder Well, I have no objection
07:12 OldCoder Have fun
07:12 OldCoder I should shut down the server in a while for backups
07:12 OldCoder Things are in transition
07:12 OldCoder In about an hour O.K. with you? Down for about 15 minutes possibly
07:13 nman3600 I've got school in 15 mins
07:13 OldCoder !!
07:14 OldCoder Well, not significant then
07:14 nman3600 I'll speak to mark when i get back from school
07:14 OldCoder Should be up after school
07:14 OldCoder Unless moving
07:14 OldCoder See you
07:14 nman3600 My room is such a small place it's hard to plan things in here
07:15 OldCoder Hm?
07:15 OldCoder kk
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07:17 nman3600 Hey asie
07:18 asie hi
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10:05 Jordach i see a kaeza
10:10 kaeza hai
10:11 Jordach :3
10:13 Jordach wtf twitter.
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10:41 Jordach mornin Krock
10:41 Krock moin
10:41 Krock eh  noons
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12:17 Megaf Hi
12:17 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
12:17 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (439ms)
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12:55 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix issue #1275 - one more missing check. c380563a12 2014-06-18T14:53:43+02:00 http://git.io/04TeEA
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13:11 Krock 2 hours almost-silence
13:11 Krock AAAAAAAA
13:12 * Krock MAKES SOME NOISE
13:13 * Exio4 slaps Krock
13:13 * Krock SLAPS Exio4
13:16 * Taoki is currently working on adding a personality system to my fork of SimpleMobs :)
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13:17 Krock s/my/his
13:17 Krock your F7 key is broken
13:17 Krock ^ Taoki
13:17 Taoki ?
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13:18 Krock Taoki, F7 is 3rd person. "..system to my fork.." is 1st person
13:19 Krock therefore, F7 broken
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13:25 Krock Weird bug.. wireless symbol shows up "Disconnected" but description sais "Connected to network foobar"
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13:26 Exio4 F7?
13:26 Krock 3rd person view ^
13:29 Krock Jordach, I should try to do what you did with 2GB RAM and see if system crashes or not :3
13:29 Exio4 ah
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13:34 john_minetest Hello everypony
13:35 Taoki lol, I thought I'm seeing the wrong channel when I read everypony :)
13:35 Taoki and hi!
13:35 Krock Hay john!
13:37 Krock To anyone: Should [img] tags switch to [url] automatically when quoting a text?
13:37 Krock s/anyone/everypony
13:37 Exio4 how do i increase my view range
13:37 Krock + and -
13:37 Exio4 decrease is -, and + doesn't seem to work :(
13:37 Krock numpad
13:37 Exio4 fff
13:37 Exio4 in numpad, i see
13:38 Krock works?
13:38 kaeza IWFM
13:39 Krock International Women's Media Foundation
13:39 Exio4 yeah, numpad's + works
13:39 Krock wait. that's F and M exchanged
13:39 Krock ok
13:39 Exio4 it works for me
13:40 Krock IWFM: Integrated Water Flow Model
13:40 kaeza you fail
13:40 Krock nope.avi
13:41 Krock let's see how much meanings "XYZ" has
13:42 Krock many
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13:45 Exio4 http://www.nr.com/CS395T/lectu​res2008/20-MultidimInterp.pdf \o/
13:46 Krock ugh
13:46 Krock TL;DR alert
13:46 Krock much images
13:47 Krock noise!
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14:47 nman3600 Heyo
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14:47 nman3600 Krock, I was going to make a gold to copper shop on your server but you've done it already :(
14:48 Krock gold to copper doesn't exist afaik
14:48 nman3600 Krock, you've got a steel to copper though
14:48 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Update buildbot scripts and add 64-bit buildbot ce9f1e1d3c 2014-06-18T16:40:24+02:00 http://git.io/SAe9RA
14:48 Krock y
14:48 * Krock points at inchra.net
14:49 nman3600 inchra.net points at Krock
14:50 nman3600 markv, Can i make another account on your server to claim the other pixel arts i've made?
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14:56 nman3600 !tell markv Please can you come on your server ASAP (i've got a few probs and some things to show you)
14:56 MinetestBot nman3600: I'll pass that on when markv is around
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15:07 Eater4 Does anyone know how to get the damn faction mod to work
15:09 Eater4 Hello? Anyone???
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15:14 PenguinDad Hello everypony!
15:14 Eater4 Shit
15:15 Krock hi
15:15 Eater4 I need someone that knows how to work with spapers faction mod
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15:19 nman3600 Krock can i make a coal to copper shop on your server (even though there's already a copper shop)
15:19 Krock I'll take my AK47 and kill you with one shoot if you do that
15:19 Krock ^opposite
15:19 john_minetest Hey PenguinDad
15:20 nman3600 Krock so i can?
15:20 Krock no. you can
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15:21 nman3600 Yay i can
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15:23 * Piggybear87 just formatted his spare 82GB HDD and it's almost full...
15:24 * Piggybear87 needs more HDDs...
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15:24 * Krock gives Piggybear87 his 120 MB HDD
15:24 * sfan5 purrs at Krock
15:24 sfan5 hi everyone
15:24 Krock *125 MB actually
15:24 Krock hi sfan5
15:25 * Piggybear87 throws that not even flash drive sized HDD back at Krock's face.../
15:25 Piggybear87 Lol
15:26 Krock my newest and shortest lived HDD hat 250 GB space
15:26 Krock *had
15:26 * sfan5 throws a 16GB USB 3.0 drive at kaeza
15:26 kaeza wat
15:26 Piggybear87 I WAS going to get a 2TB, but, I need glasses.
15:27 Piggybear87 kaeza, he threw part of his pron collection to you. Have fun! ;)
15:27 kaeza glasses to read the HDD? :D
15:27 Krock lol
15:27 Krock glasses to see the screen
15:27 Piggybear87 Lol, no, to see my screen...
15:27 Krock ^^
15:28 Piggybear87 I had some, but they broke.
15:28 Piggybear87 Now I have to sit <1" from the screen to see it..
15:28 * Piggybear87 is a bat with no sonar...
15:28 * Krock <3 ATAPI
15:29 PenguinDad Piggybear87: bats actually have quite goof eyes
15:29 PenguinDad *good
15:30 Piggybear87 Where's ShadowBot? I was going to do "<3 ShaadowBot" but I noticed it's not there.
15:30 Piggybear87 That's not what I leaned, but, OK.
15:30 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot
15:30 MinetestBot <3 PenguinDad
15:30 Krock Rest In Pie shadowbot
15:30 Piggybear87 Lol.
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15:32 Piggybear87 Why are there so many lurkers here? I just looked through the user list and noticed that I've never seen most of these people talk.
15:32 Jordach because idlers
15:32 Exio4 Piggybear87: i'm not a lurker, i'm just stalkin' you all
15:32 Krock let's ping someone
15:32 Krock grrk-bzzt
15:33 Piggybear87 Like, why do they even mark away? Lol. They don't talk, we won't notice they're gone. Lol.
15:33 nman3600 Krock, Restart?
15:33 Exio4 because they could talk in another channel
15:33 Exio4 nyuszika7h: ^ lurker
15:33 nyuszika7h hi
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15:33 Krock hi
15:34 nman3600 Krock the FPS lag has hit your server, Restart Please
15:34 Piggybear87 Enke, I like your rims. Lol.
15:34 Krock nman3600, how can a server have FPS lag?
15:34 Krock it's running on console!
15:34 nman3600 Krock FPS goes down for most players
15:35 Krock not a server problem
15:35 nman3600 but still it's really laggy
15:35 Piggybear87 Crap, I read his name wrong, the rims are spelled "Enkei"...
15:36 nman3600 Krock, Please restart it
15:36 Enke Piggybear87: Wrong! Go to the corner!
15:37 nman3600 Ahh thanks Krock
15:37 Piggybear87 I know I know... I'm ashamed, I love those rims...
15:40 Piggybear87 YAAAAAYYYYYUUUUUHHHHHH! I just got may favorite non-car-related movie of all time!
15:40 nman3600 markv, you here?
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15:41 Piggybear87 AND it's sequel! Oh Yeah! :)
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15:47 kaeza sfan5, for whatever reason it's not letting me download MT builds from your server. they start downloading OK, but get stuck somewhere on the 50% mark
15:47 markv Hey everyone
15:47 MinetestBot markv: 06-18 14:56 UTC <nman3600> Please can you come on your server ASAP (i've got a few probs and some things to show you)
15:47 Krock (*.pf-control.de servers always work)
15:48 markv nman3600, DON'T USE tell!
15:48 markv I have ZNC
15:48 nman3600 Lol
15:48 markv Just message me and I will see that first, I don't always post to #minetest
15:49 Krock yeah. private chats also exist.
15:49 markv !tell nman3600 Stop using !tell
15:49 MinetestBot markv: I'll pass that on when nman3600 is around
15:49 nman3600 lol
15:49 MinetestBot nman3600: 06-18 15:49 UTC <markv> Stop using !tell
15:49 markv !tell nman3600 Stop using tell!
15:49 MinetestBot markv: I'll pass that on when nman3600 is around
15:49 sfan5 !ignore markv
15:49 nman3600 seriously now
15:49 MinetestBot nman3600: 06-18 15:49 UTC <markv> Stop using tell!
15:49 MinetestBot sfan5: 'markv' added to ignore list.
15:49 sfan5 !ignore nman3600
15:49 markv Gotta use proper syntax
15:49 MinetestBot sfan5: 'nman3600' added to ignore list.
15:50 nman3600 sfan5: Whai me?
15:50 nman3600 Mark did i lag the server out
15:50 m5 yes
15:50 sfan5 nman3600: you did nothing.. right
15:50 m5 A lot
15:50 Krock that happens when you talk a lot and use some bot commands
15:50 nman sfan5: you ignored me aswell
15:50 sfan5 !unignore nman3600
15:50 MinetestBot sfan5: 'nman3600' removed from ignore list.
15:50 m5 Which is why I didn't let you have creative at first
15:51 nman3600 m5 i was unclaiming all that land and the command has loaded yet
15:51 kaeza http://i.imgur.com/pam9VFC.jpg
15:51 kaeza :(
15:51 Krock sfan5, could you add a !give command to MinetestBot? I'd like to have this feature because ShadowBot gone :/
15:51 LemonLake nman3600: there's another chan for server discussions
15:51 sfan5 Krock: maybe
15:51 LemonLake nman3600: correction: another server
15:51 Krock hmm okay
15:51 LemonLake this is not the place for it
15:51 m5 ~give markv steam
15:52 Krock <Krock>... I'd like to have this feature because >>>>ShadowBot gone<<< :/
15:52 * Krock headdesks
15:52 m5 Oh yea...
15:53 nman3600 I want ShadowBot back
15:53 m5 !unignore markv
15:53 Krock kaeza, [Win] + [R],  "iexplore <insert link>"-> hacky way
15:53 Krock too bad
15:53 nman3600 m5, I've unclaimed them now
15:54 m5 Stop using creative
15:54 m5 Get out of the interface
15:54 m5 Then I can join
15:54 Krock hint: /kick
15:54 nman3600 m5 i have
15:54 m5 Will have to replace that piece of shit asap
15:54 nman3600 m5, I wasn't using it when the server crashed
15:54 nman3600 I was unclaiming the land
15:54 m5 It crashed??
15:54 nman3600 Well i crashed
15:55 Krock ('i' != "server") -> true
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16:00 kaeza <Krock> kaeza, [Win] + [R],  "iexplore <insert link>"-> hacky way
16:00 kaeza fuck you too
16:00 Krock - kaeza quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
16:00 Krock why so agressive?
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16:01 m5 nman3600, https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas
16:04 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xSNiPx791A
16:05 nman3600 !title
16:05 MinetestBot nman3600: Killer Clown Scare Prank! - YouTube
16:05 Krock I love that dude
16:05 nman3600 Krock i've seen that before
16:05 Krock :(
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16:20 nman3600 Lol
16:21 nman3600 Krock, I was telling a friend about that vid at school today lol
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16:24 rubenwardy Minetest Classic has built!
16:24 rubenwardy It is like Minetest, but with no modding support
16:24 rubenwardy lol
16:24 rubenwardy and, Hi All!
16:24 Megaf_ Hi?
16:24 Megaf_ Hi rubenwardy
16:25 Megaf_ [13:00:18] <kaeza> <Krock> kaeza, [Win] + [R],  "iexplore <insert link>"-> hacky way
16:25 Megaf_ Alt + F2, "firefox <insert link>" hacky way
16:25 Megaf_ lol
16:25 Megaf_ on Linux
16:26 rubenwardy Why does Unity suck so bad?
16:26 Megaf rubenwardy: because it's OpenGL and in bad OpenGL
16:26 Megaf heavy as heck
16:27 Megaf I'm looking forward AMD's mantle
16:29 sfan5 Megaf: you are aware that a gfx card supporting Mantle does not magically fix things?
16:29 sfan5 s/?//
16:33 PenguinDad Megaf: Is that Mantle thingy open?
16:33 Megaf Yep
16:33 Megaf and it's comming to Linux too, PenguinDad http://www.phoronix.com/ more info there
16:34 Megaf sfan5: doesnt it? It needs developers using it, doesnt it?
16:35 Jordach sapier, http://paste.debian.net/105679/ <- according to a MC modder, our shaders look good
16:37 Krock Megaf, IE because it's installed on every windows >95
16:37 Krock *  >=
16:37 crazyR hi all
16:37 Megaf Krock: netscape for the win(insert dows here)
16:38 Krock hmm google translator takes long to translate that
16:39 Krock Megaf, what ya mean by "dows"?
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16:43 Jordach w0000000000000000000
16:43 Jordach moar shit turned up from Yodel!
16:43 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/llA3v1XGrN4z.png
16:43 VanessaE nice.
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16:44 Jordach having to do what i did to my acer, convert it to it's limits (except this time a proper mobo because this is one of those really recent LGA775 Quads)
16:44 Megaf Jordach: to they ship to Republic of Ireland?
16:44 Jordach Megaf, i think they do
16:45 Megaf cool, pretty good price they have
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16:45 Megaf Jordach: lets time I got hardware parts online was from http://pixmania.ie/
16:46 Jordach Delivery options outside UK mainland; Delivery to Northern Ireland, Scottish Offshore, Scottish Highlands, Channel Islands, and Isle of Man Delivery optionsl; Within 2 - 3 working days Only £9.99
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16:46 Jordach they don't do Ireland, but NI should be fine(?)
16:47 Jordach VanessaE, because the GPU i'm looking at needs those 90 degree SATA-3 leads - we had to get another, despite me only having one, the DVD drive had to go
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16:52 VanessaE so what's it replacing?
16:52 Jordach an old HP mobo
16:52 VanessaE ah
16:52 Jordach ~2010
16:52 Jordach didn't support anything more than 2gb
16:52 Calinou hi
16:52 Calinou Jordach, why? only one RAM slot?
16:53 Calinou if you have enough RAM slots but can only have N GB of RAM, the limitation is usually due to the chipset or CPU
16:53 Calinou eg. B85 mobos can't use 32 GB even if they have 4 slots)
16:53 Jordach Calinou, four; HP was being cheap with their Vista age mobos
16:53 Jordach one of those cheap towers with shit mobos
16:53 Jordach (which we found in a large metal bin)
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16:54 Jordach but then again, those intel core quads are still packing a punch
16:54 Calinou Intel C2Qs have pretty meh gaming performance (for AAA games)
16:55 Calinou but changing CPU + mobo is very expensive
16:55 Calinou so keep what you have
16:55 Jordach we're keeping the CPU as it appears to have 7.1 CPU performance on W7
16:55 Jordach my APU is 7.2
16:55 Jordach figure the difference :P
16:58 * m5 just wrote 700 words about how to use Live Linux and VirtualBox
16:59 Krock What's the use of the "GLES"-library?
17:00 Calinou W7 performance is ridiculously meaningless
17:00 Calinou Krock, OpenGL ES is a subset of OpenGL for use in embedded devices like smartphones/tablets; it's supposedly lighter and simpler
17:00 Calinou exists in 2.0 and 3.0 versions mostly
17:00 Krock Well explained, thank you, Calinou :)
17:00 Calinou no problem
17:01 Jordach what doesn't Calinou know
17:01 * Calinou wonders how many different states he should add to trampolines
17:01 Calinou currently 6 (same as Jeija's mod)
17:01 Jordach we should do weekly AMAs :P
17:01 Calinou 5? 8?
17:01 Calinou (different states have different strengths and will maybe have different fall damage reduction)
17:01 Krock states for trampolines? idle and jumping?
17:01 Jordach Calinou, cushion, 0.25, 0.5, 0.75, 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, 2, 9001
17:02 Krock I think 5 should be alreadyenough
17:02 Calinou cushion is a separate item
17:02 Jordach all mesured in speed reduction
17:02 Calinou (easier to craft)
17:02 Calinou 100% fall damage reduction
17:02 Calinou trampolines are 50 % only (to make abuse harder) and I'm going to disable_jump = 1 on them (to make very high jumps not possible)
17:02 Calinou (probably)
17:03 m5 Hmm
17:03 m5 The password field clears itself when the serverlist gets updated
17:03 Jordach holy shit i'm getting PMs shot from every direction
17:04 Krock +1?
17:04 Megaf [13:46:55] <Jordach> they don't do Ireland, but NI should be fine(?)
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17:04 Megaf too bad, I got to find a good store in Ireland
17:04 Calinou woah, jump sends you insanely high
17:04 Calinou all of them
17:05 Calinou ~141 blocks
17:05 Calinou for weak one
17:05 Calinou if you hold jump key on them
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17:12 Calinou still possible to jump insanely high on them, I have disable_jump = 1 group set :(
17:12 Calinou that group doesn't work anyway
17:13 Calinou “- disable_jump: Player (and possibly other things) cannot jump from node”
17:13 Calinou in before Taoki broke this :-)
17:14 Jordach s/in before/inb4
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17:16 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Make dropdown formspec elements send their value same style as buttons on change 2a09b7e84f 2014-06-18T18:47:41+02:00 http://git.io/WkaPfg
17:22 nman3600 Is there a new minetest build?
17:23 nman3600 sfan5: Is there?
17:24 nman3600 TELL MAH NAOWWW! pls
17:24 m5 inb4 kick
17:24 nman3600 Is. There. A. New. Minetest. Build?
17:24 LemonLake nman3600: there are many
17:25 nman3600 My minetest_game world wont work anymore
17:25 nman3600 worlds*
17:25 m5 ...
17:25 LemonLake just finished ep 17 of hyouka, damn im flying through them
17:25 m5 Maybe you should say what's wrong instead of assuming a reason
17:25 m5 *What happens
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17:26 LemonLake he prefers to be reset instead
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17:31 * Calinou made pretty trampoline overlays
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17:33 m5 70kb/sec...
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17:42 grrk-bzzt I'm here Krock, what do you want?
17:42 Krock grrk-bzzt, sorry, just a random call to see if everybody is afk or what happened
17:43 * m5 loves his home server
17:43 m5 Fuck that piece of shit in Buffalo, USA
17:43 m5 ...That Octa-Core piece of shit...
17:44 * m5 sighs
17:45 rubenwardy I fucking hate git
17:45 m5 :(
17:45 m5 <3 git
17:45 kaeza why now?
17:45 rubenwardy I just reverted a commit
17:45 rubenwardy Can I revert a revert?
17:45 * m5 doesn't know how to do that
17:46 kaeza you can
17:46 Megaf One think I'd really like is rollback a rollback
17:46 m5 I uploaded my password once and n00bishly deleted the whole repo
17:46 m5 rollbackcept...No
17:46 kaeza (unless you rebased, that is)
17:46 m5 I can use my server for git...
17:46 kaeza s/rebased/squashed/
17:47 Calinou m5, all revisions are stored on Git
17:47 Calinou so reverting isn't a solution to such a thing
17:47 Calinou rubenwardy, did you try the same command you used for reverting?
17:47 Calinou did you commit your revert?
17:47 Calinou git reset may help
17:48 Exio4 git revert the reverting commit
17:49 Calinou RealBadAngel's shader changes makes stuff much darker, even sunlight
17:50 Calinou only leaves rendering changes slightly
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17:51 VanessaE Calinou: are you still using your new table?
17:51 Calinou yes
17:51 VanessaE maybe that's why?
17:51 RealBadAngel Calinou, not much darker
17:51 RealBadAngel 1.2 instead of 1.3 for top of the nodes
17:51 RealBadAngel thats contrast
17:52 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/W52nPHV0oT0n.jpg
17:52 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/UaYjb-F8PW1p.jpg
17:52 Calinou first one without, second one with
17:52 Calinou only difference is in leaves
17:53 rubenwardy I meant to type git reset, Calinou, but I typed git revert :(
17:53 rubenwardy Crisis adverted
17:53 Calinou anyway, lava is finally actually bright
17:53 RealBadAngel Calinou, what are you calling "much darker" then?
17:54 RealBadAngel colors are the same now, with and without shaders
17:54 Calinou it feels much darker when you have shaders enabled, compared to before's top faces
17:54 Calinou oh, that's why
17:54 Calinou that's a big change and you've never really told anyone :/
17:54 RealBadAngel ive trashed lotsa nonsense code
17:54 RealBadAngel and made colors the same
17:54 Calinou thanks for fixing lava and water anyway
17:54 Calinou so shaders are almost useless now, for me
17:54 RealBadAngel no
17:55 Calinou only fixes fog on transparent surfaces?
17:55 RealBadAngel thx to shaders you have bumpmapping, waving stuff etc
17:55 RealBadAngel and more things in the future
17:55 Calinou I use none of these
17:55 Calinou distracting, lowers FPS for no reason :P
17:55 Amaz ^ +1
17:55 RealBadAngel but such trivial things like faces shading is aviable now for everyone
17:56 RealBadAngel no matter with or without shaders
17:56 Calinou but you did break packs :( mine looks quite oversaturated now
17:56 * Calinou is off to sell it to Samsung
17:56 Calinou I'll compare with the defaults and oldpack (0.3.x textures)
17:56 VanessaE Calinou: I noticed that too - HDX looks like it needs some saturation adjustments as well
17:56 VanessaE but that's a good thing
17:56 Calinou good thing, why?
17:56 VanessaE a LOT of stuff was under-saturated before.
17:57 VanessaE (in HDX that is)
17:57 RealBadAngel before it was broken
17:57 RealBadAngel in shaders contrast were used 180%
17:57 Amaz The face shading looks great!
17:57 Calinou the textures look too contrasted
17:57 Calinou why do you change contrast, and not brightness?
17:57 RealBadAngel you dare to call it normal way?
17:57 rubenwardy Calinou: https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/9b1cc3242d6e06f2aba4
17:57 rubenwardy !title
17:57 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Testing inconsistency detected by ld.so fix
17:57 RealBadAngel idk who made it
17:58 RealBadAngel but color manipulation was badly broken before
17:58 Calinou anyway, my light table works nicely with your changes
17:58 VanessaE Calinou: imagemagick will make it a 5 minute job to tune the color saturation back down to natural
17:58 RealBadAngel thats why we had many issues with water etc
17:58 VanessaE for your whole pack/game/etc.
17:58 Calinou using oldpack in latest Git really feels like playing 0.3.x, sometimes :p
17:59 Calinou VanessaE, yeah, but you will have to change all packs?
17:59 Calinou that's annoying, for people who want to convert eg. Minecraft packs
17:59 VanessaE Calinou: depends on the pack; HDX needs some tweaks, but not that many
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17:59 Mallot1 hey
18:00 VanessaE besides, Contrast is what defines how much light something is receiving
18:00 VanessaE brightness really just sets the black level
18:00 RealBadAngel anyway, if something was broken for a long time its not the reason to call it standard and fixing that situation breaking things
18:01 VanessaE Calinou: how does Misa's pack look now in MT as compared to MC?
18:01 Amaz Jordach, Remeber this? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/7aNQQfIE_QEy.png (I presume it's dead now...)
18:01 Calinou will do some screenshots (of Minetest)
18:01 Calinou the grass is very dark
18:01 VanessaE Amaz: ew.
18:02 Jordach dayum that's one old client
18:02 Amaz Yep.
18:02 Calinou apparently you don't need shaders to fix fogging on water
18:02 Mallot1 why'd they call it minetest-classic?
18:03 VanessaE that's definitely NOT darkrose's Minetest Classic
18:03 Jordach Mallot1, because it's forked from classic
18:04 Krock How the hell can I use the Incremental Building for minetest?
18:04 Calinou rendering is exactly the same with and without shaders, except leaves differ a bit
18:05 Calinou VanessaE, may or may not be to your taste: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bUJ2bzqbXCvX.jpg
18:05 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/13adf1351a9f
18:05 Calinou four basic textures of Misa as a reference
18:05 Amaz Nice.
18:05 Calinou the new rendering is more accurate, but it breaks packs
18:05 VanessaE how can it break a pack if it's more accurate?
18:05 Calinou packs were designed with older lighting, even though it was disconnected of reality
18:06 Calinou oh also that screenshot is very Minecrafty
18:06 VanessaE yes, it is :)
18:06 Calinou if you used a Minecraft map, some people could mix this with Minecraft for sure
18:06 Jordach [19:06:24] <Jordach> comic sans D:
18:06 Jordach [19:06:40] <VanessaE> HEY, I LIKE comic sans
18:07 Calinou I still find it strange how RealBadAngel increased the contrast of the top face
18:07 RealBadAngel lol
18:07 VanessaE Calinou: he decreased it.
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18:07 VanessaE from 1.3 -> 1.2.
18:07 VanessaE it just looks like it's higher because the sides of the nodes are darker nod.
18:07 VanessaE now*
18:08 RealBadAngel and in shaders from 180% to 120%
18:08 Calinou textures just feel more intense, than even the texture file
18:08 RealBadAngel make all 1.0
18:08 RealBadAngel and you will see non changed textures
18:09 VanessaE Calinou: I think it's a "getting used to it" sorta thing e.g. the whole *game* is probably what feels "more intense", and not so much the textures.
18:09 VanessaE hm, that didn't come out right.
18:09 VanessaE meh, you get the point
18:09 RealBadAngel and still, it wont look the same as in gimp
18:09 Calinou the nice thing is that dropped items and wieldhand integrate more nicely with the world (same colours)
18:09 Calinou before they were quite different
18:09 Calinou thanks for that too
18:10 RealBadAngel np
18:10 RealBadAngel you will get used to new feel
18:11 * Jordach didn't require adjustment
18:11 RealBadAngel and will notice makin textures will be now easier
18:11 whiskers75 bye ^whiskers75
18:11 whiskers75 yay, irssi
18:11 VanessaE RealBadAngel: next change I'd really like to see is properly-working lighting on nodeboxes
18:11 VanessaE even if it just makes them work like everything else does.
18:11 Jordach i had already been experimenting with something called MT4 ;P
18:12 Calinou TIL: you can use Enter or Space to press the button you last pressed in a formspec
18:12 Calinou I also like the idea that rendering is the same with and without shaders
18:12 Calinou it's less discriminating to people with old PCs
18:13 RealBadAngel to some point of course
18:13 Calinou shaders fix one fairly important thing however: lighting of dark water, when you see it behind brighter water
18:13 Calinou at least in some cases
18:14 RealBadAngel water is not affected with shading
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18:14 Calinou RealBadAngel, is there any chance that you test my light table changes and merge them?
18:14 RealBadAngel all faces have same contrast level
18:14 RealBadAngel i can test it ofc
18:14 Calinou I meant transparency sorting
18:14 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I did notice a glitch with shaders vs. lava - at a far distance, lava tends to peak through the lava when nothing else does.
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18:14 VanessaE er lava peaks through the FOG rather.
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18:15 VanessaE e.g. go near some lava, in the daytime, then fly up high in the air.  eventually all you'll see is the lava peeking through the fog, before it also disappears.
18:15 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/nGtX9Aohm8up.jpg
18:15 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/RJ_VEapZGlwZ.jpg
18:15 Calinou without and with. fog feels more intense without shaders, or is this just me?
18:16 Calinou colours are a tad different (better) with shaders on too
18:16 Jordach that isn't just you Calinou
18:16 VanessaE I see a difference in the fog, but that could just be draw distance?
18:16 Calinou I forced 100 on both
18:16 VanessaE the water cave darkness glitch, I've seen before.
18:17 Jordach Calinou, notice that sand becomes a bit more bluish with shadars
18:17 VanessaE in that case, yeah, the fog is thicker in ...8up.jpg
18:17 Jordach yes, i'm calling it that from now on
18:17 Jordach needs moar shadars
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18:20 Calinou lava is not fogged, indeed, VanessaE (shaders on)
18:20 Calinou maybe because the texture must have an alpha channel?
18:20 VanessaE screenshot for RBA please? :)
18:21 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/KwNZBnc1Wwt8.jpg → I wanted to troll people in another channel
18:21 Calinou failed
18:21 Exio4 i'm a nice shibe
18:22 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/L-5OWEMOCU9Z.jpg
18:22 * Calinou uses Exio4 to mine Dogecoin
18:22 VanessaE Calinou: indeed HDX's lava has no alpha channel, nor should it need one - lava is opaque for crying out loud :P
18:22 jin_xi more irrlicht particle eyecandy http://youtu.be/5WnmQYLJzlE
18:23 VanessaE very nice, jin_xi
18:23 VanessaE what kind of FPS effect do those particles have?
18:23 EvergreenTree jin_xi: pretty!
18:24 lemonlake fpssy
18:24 * Calinou eats the eye candy
18:24 EvergreenTree maybe rain particles would be less laggy with Irllicht particles
18:24 EvergreenTree lots of them I mean
18:25 VanessaE EvergreenTree: indeed so
18:25 kaeza speaking of candies... candybox 2 sucks :<
18:25 kaeza anyway, nice jin_xi
18:25 VanessaE Calinou: does it change if you add an alpha channel to the textures?
18:26 jin_xi paricle spawners which do not require collision detection should be doable easily
18:26 VanessaE jin_xi: they look quite performant indee.d
18:26 VanessaE indeed*
18:27 VanessaE how far do you figure you are from something that can replace what we have now?
18:27 jin_xi idk, i dont think any of my code is suitable for engine inclusion
18:27 VanessaE too bad.
18:28 jin_xi but RBA can do it in an afternoon i guess
18:28 RealBadAngel nice particles
18:28 RealBadAngel could be used as fire for 3d torches
18:31 Calinou VanessaE, it looks like it doesn't
18:31 VanessaE ok, that's a good thing than ;)
18:32 VanessaE means I don't have to bloat HDX's textures up any further than they already are :P
18:32 Calinou trying around all my packs with new lighting
18:32 Calinou many look as well as before
18:32 Calinou MCE is totally awesome on it, especially in caves
18:33 Calinou lol, found diamond
18:33 Calinou ugh, stone monsters
18:33 Calinou they don't attack me
18:33 VanessaE simple mobs?
18:33 Mallot1 they attack at night
18:34 Mallot1 deeper you go the more agressive
18:34 Calinou VanessaE, yes
18:34 Calinou Mallot1, no, it's a bug
18:34 Calinou sometimes they'll only wander around and not attack you
18:34 Calinou often happens after death or server rejoin
18:34 VanessaE Calinou: that mod went batshit on my server the other day, spawned thousands of entities.  had to remove it :(
18:34 Mallot1 oh i thought they liked me :)
18:34 Calinou PilzAdam, are you aware of that? probably, but just making sure
18:35 Calinou i've never never had that problem however, VanessaE
18:35 VanessaE I've seen at least one other report of it happening to someone, a while back
18:35 VanessaE no clue who, when, or why.
18:35 Mallot1 VanessaE: that happened to me on BrandonsReese's server one or 2 times
18:35 VanessaE anyway, bbl.
18:36 Mallot1 bye
18:36 m5 Hello pplz
18:36 Mallot1 hey m5! :)
18:37 m5 Gello there
18:37 Calinou VanessaE, try Carbone's version? may have fixes
18:37 Calinou it's hugely tweaked
18:37 Calinou has 1 additional mob too
18:41 jin_xi msg RealBadAngel if you wanna try yourself here is the changed function in particles.cpp http://paste.ubuntu.com/7665057/
18:41 jin_xi oh well
18:41 jin_xi #include <irrlicht.h> too
18:42 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/7Q9wR8Orcybu.jpg
18:42 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/udoFkcudNncs.jpg
18:42 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5fbJ8ZdxL0DD.jpg
18:44 Krock sfan5, how can I go around the build-from-scratch after changing the VERSION_EXTRA in cmake?
18:44 sfan5 you can't
18:44 Krock so, you build from scratch, too?
18:45 sfan5 YES
18:45 Krock ^ sfan5
18:45 Krock oh
18:45 Krock thanks for the help
18:52 jin_xi hm, i wonder about that particle collision issue. digging particles obviously need it, but it could be argued they're more like fragments of the destroyed node
18:53 jin_xi do many mods use particle spawners with collision detection?
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18:53 kaeza I used to use it on firearms for spent cases
18:54 jin_xi but again, thats more of an object that kinda hangs around than a particle
18:54 kaeza but in that case I can easily switch to entities
18:54 jin_xi particle  in the computer graphics, where it usually is a texture depicting many very small stuffs
18:54 jin_xi think i forgot a word there
18:55 jin_xi maybe it makes sense to keep single particles for such uses and add irrlicht ones for 'particle fx' stuff
18:56 kaeza things like rain, snow, etc. could use collision detection though
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18:56 kaeza maybe some flag to choose between "old" and "new" particles?
18:56 ligeti Hello
18:57 Amaz Hi!
18:57 jin_xi so server needs to know about every drop... lets make finite liquid and wather on that base
18:57 ligeti Amaz :) I installed Mint :P (thanks God I had a backup of all my files!)
18:58 ligeti thanks for your help
18:58 kaeza jin_xi, ?
18:59 Amaz ligeti: Great!
18:59 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&amp;t=156&amp;p=145455#p145455
19:02 kaeza alright
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19:03 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&amp;t=156&amp;p=145455#p145233 → Carbone user spotted (textures, 3D torch)
19:03 Calinou and “Spawned mobs:” message
19:03 Calinou (they should update their copy, mobs now have descriptions in spawn message)
19:04 lemonlake is that multitest lamps in there
19:05 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1362 → here goes paramat's science
19:05 Calinou lemonlake, the 3D torches are from Carbone's default mod
19:05 Calinou the lamp blocks, no idea
19:05 lemonlake they look like the multitest lamps
19:06 lemonlake this guy used my bros mod :D
19:07 Amaz http://i.imgur.com/7npiAXl.png <-- Calinou, your own screenshot?
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19:08 Calinou no
19:08 Calinou found it on screenshots topic
19:08 Amaz Right.
19:08 Amaz Just wondering ;)
19:08 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5
19:10 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
19:11 whiskers75 :)
19:11 * Calinou is doing test of Simple Mobs with 300 seconds life timer instead of 600
19:14 m5 I can't get rid of sendmail now...
19:14 Calinou also improving mob despawn messages to be more informative
19:23 Calinou none of the mobs despawned? no message
19:28 Calinou PilzAdam, self.lifetimer seems to barely work only, on ~100 mobs, only ~4 despawn
19:29 Calinou set it to 300 instead of 600
19:29 Calinou I'll try very short time
19:29 Calinou I'll try with 10 to see
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19:34 Calinou printing dtime makes stuff like 21:33:56: ACTION[ServerThread]: 0.032000001519918, lol
19:38 rubenwardy Wtf? Why is github adding merge commits now?
19:39 rubenwardy did     git pull origin branchone; git push origin branchtwo;   and a merge message was added in the history on GitHub
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19:42 PenguinDad playing with item frames https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZmPE1EaWoK_0.png
19:43 PilzAdam rubenwardy, dont pull
19:43 PilzAdam it creates merge commits if you are not careful
19:43 rubenwardy What is the alternative?
19:43 PilzAdam rebase
19:44 rubenwardy ah
19:44 PilzAdam pull doesn't create a merge commit if your branch does not differ
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20:09 BlockMen hi Jordach
20:12 EvergreenTree Hi BlockMen
20:13 * Jordach taps EvergreenTree
20:14 Taoki Is there a Lua command to clear all entities on the server except players?
20:15 Jordach Taoki, /clearobjects
20:15 Jordach that no longer clears players afaik
20:15 Taoki thanks
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20:16 BlockMen hi EvergreenTree
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20:36 * sfan5 taps EvergreenTree
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20:38 * Jordach flips the table
20:38 * PenguinDad flops the table
20:38 * Jordach flips the table
20:38 * table flips Jordach
20:38 Jordach lel
20:39 Jordach :3
20:39 kaeza also, registered :<
20:39 kaeza RC Car now in MMDB!...once someone approves!
20:39 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix bounding rect for formspec elements label vertlabel and checkboxes 65a4630f31 2014-06-18T22:38:29+02:00 http://git.io/egXfpA
20:39 EvergreenTree Trees don't flip tables, trees flip ground
20:40 EvergreenTree kaeza: I was actually experimenting with an rc node
20:40 * Jordach wonders if EvergreenTree always uses root account
20:40 EvergreenTree how do you control it?
20:40 EvergreenTree lel
20:40 * kaeza pokes Jordach to approve rc_car
20:40 EvergreenTree My idea was that a controller item could be used
20:41 * sfan5 roots RootTree
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20:41 EvergreenTree every time you punch with the controller , the car goes the direction you are pointing
20:41 EvergreenTree I was also thinking of having multiple channels for the remote/car
20:41 EvergreenTree like the teleport pipes in pipeworks
20:41 * RootTree just noticed that RootTree isn't registered
20:41 kaeza EvergreenTree, that's exactly how the car is controlled...
20:41 EvergreenTree ah
20:42 EvergreenTree the channels thing might be something you would want to implement though
20:42 kaeza you turn on the car (via right click), then click somewhere with remote and car goes there
20:42 EvergreenTree ah
20:42 kaeza pull requests welcome :)
20:42 EvergreenTree mkay
20:43 kaeza o wait, there's no github repo
20:43 EvergreenTree lol
20:43 EvergreenTree make one
20:43 EvergreenTree I might have a go at it
20:43 EvergreenTree not good with formspecs and metadata though
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20:48 kaeza EvergreenTree, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-rc_car
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20:51 Piggybear87 The eff?
20:52 Vazon Hi guys
20:52 * PenguinDad slaps Remote host for closing Piggybear87's connection
20:53 Piggybear87 No, not that. That was me.
20:53 Piggybear87 Hi Vazon.
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20:54 Vazon lol
20:55 Piggybear87 I have 2 HDDs in my machine (other than the main one), and every time I try to access one of them, my machine lags out. I can't get to the stuff I just downloaded.
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21:00 Piggybear87 Got it...
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21:17 Jordach kaeza, i don't bother with MMDB
21:17 Jordach it's too much hassle for a button press
21:17 Jordach I was told to moderate the forums, not to approve mods.
21:18 kaeza okai
21:18 * kaeza self-approves it then
21:20 kaeza also repost from elsewhere: https://i.imgur.com/eqgCuO9.jpg
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21:51 Megaf !seen Krock
21:51 MinetestBot Megaf: krock was last seen at 2014-06-18 16:39:12 UTC on #minetest
21:53 PenguinDad ≡_≡
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21:54 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen expensivie around.
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21:55 kaeza !seen seen_around
21:55 MinetestBot kaeza: Sorry, I haven't seen seen_around around.
21:55 Vazon yes?
21:56 Miner_48er hi Vazon
21:56 Vazon Hi :)
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21:56 Miner_48er still looking for Lazy?
21:57 Vazon Well ether of you will do
21:57 Vazon I was wonding what you guys are using to access others peoples locked chests?
21:58 Miner_48er the permafy mod causes some problems through
21:58 Vazon o so permafy does that?
22:00 Miner_48er yes LazyJ^
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22:01 Vazon mhmm i thought you guys coded something for that
22:01 webdesigner97 hello
22:01 Megaf I hate rollback, it doesnt work
22:01 Megaf it fails often
22:02 webdesigner97 ShadowNinja: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1387 What do you mean by "... to put this..."?
22:02 ShadowNinja webdesigner97: ... to **put** this ...
22:02 Miner_48er we didn't it's a side effect
22:02 Vazon Megaf, just make sure you keep your rollback file small
22:02 ShadowNinja webdesigner97: It means "use 'put' there".
22:02 Megaf how?
22:02 Megaf deleting it?
22:03 Megaf Then how Im suposed to find griefers?
22:03 Megaf using a huge debug.txt?
22:03 webdesigner97 I guess I'll just split the line to make you happy :P
22:03 webdesigner97 One other thing:
22:03 Megaf bloody hell
22:03 Vazon Megaf, delete it every few days and that should be enough
22:03 ShadowNinja Megaf: sqlite3 rollback.sqlite 'DELETE FROM action WHERE time < <some time long ago>; VACUUM;'
22:04 Megaf no vazon, sometimes I find huge griefings that are old
22:04 webdesigner97 "You should use screen.display_width and screen.display_height here, just like you do above." Where? in the <not is_yes(...)> part?
22:04 ShadowNinja ^ That will trim it down without deleting the whole thing.
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22:04 webdesigner97 That would be useless. When I turn off fullscreen, it restores the default window size
22:05 ShadowNinja VACUUM actually frees up the disk space, but reconstructs the DB, so is (very) slow.
22:05 Megaf It doesnt help gaining much space
22:05 Megaf and again, space is not my problem
22:06 Megaf rollback saying nobody touched a node when someone actually did is the problem
22:08 Vazon Megaf do you have self claiming on?
22:08 Megaf I dont even know what that is
22:08 Vazon Megaf, where people can claim there own land using markers or commands
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22:09 Megaf I should just stop caring about people
22:10 acerspyro I'm trying to run Minetest on my 64-bit openSUSE 13.1 machine, but it segfaults immediately as I start it. Any reason it could do that?
22:10 Megaf acerspyro; lots of
22:10 Vazon Megaf if you turn on self claiming and get the markers mod, then its there own fault if they get griefed
22:10 Megaf where did you get minetest from?
22:11 acerspyro Package manager
22:11 Megaf Vazon; its a public road that was griefed
22:11 Vazon o.... mhmmm
22:11 Megaf acerspyro; so you should complain to the one who packaged minetest, its a bug in hist compilation
22:11 Megaf his*
22:11 acerspyro Megaf: Minetest works perfectly on this laptop
22:11 Piggybear87 <kaeza> also repost from elsewhere: https://i.imgur.com/eqgCuO9.jpg
22:11 Piggybear87 Lmfao
22:11 acerspyro openSUSE, altho it's a 32-bit system
22:12 Megaf acerspyro; so its a bug on the 64 bit version
22:12 Megaf acerspyro; #openSUSE
22:12 acerspyro Where do you propose I get the source files from?
22:13 acerspyro Megaf: They don't answer packages requests, I need to send an e-mail
22:13 Megaf acerspyro; yep, I can help you geting the latest source and compiling it yourself
22:13 acerspyro I know how to compile, only need the link
22:13 Megaf https://github.com/minetest/minetest
22:14 Megaf acerspyro; https://github.com/minetest/​minetest/archive/master.zip
22:14 acerspyro ty
22:14 Megaf or the stable and older one https://github.com/minetest/mi​netest/archive/stable-0.4.zip
22:15 acerspyro The bleeding-edge lifestyle suits me :)
22:16 Piggybear87 Vazon, You're 30012, right?
22:16 Vazon yes or you can try my mapgen v7 map
22:16 Vazon me and Cherudim are on the c7 one
22:17 Vazon v7*
22:17 Piggybear87 There's lava pouring out of a house. Lol.
22:17 Piggybear87 What's the address and port?
22:17 kaeza Vazon is 30012 years old? O_o
22:17 Piggybear87 kaeza, Yes, yes he is.
22:17 kaeza wow
22:17 Vazon 75.131.40.131 30000
22:18 kaeza :P
22:18 Miner_48er !up 75.131.40.131 30000
22:18 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (143ms)
22:18 Vazon kaeze shhhhh if they find out they will take me away and do tests on me  D:
22:18 Piggybear87 Lmfao.
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22:24 BlockMen gd night
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22:25 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Add tooltips for button, imagebutton and checkbox. 04fbf47744 2014-06-19T00:22:03+02:00 http://git.io/g8ADuA
22:25 kaeza \o/
22:36 Megaf folks, is there a good and definive way to block everything that is not minetest from connecting to my server?
22:37 Jordach Megaf, the firewall of course :3
22:38 Megaf lol
22:41 * Jordach taps kaeza
22:41 kaeza rm -fr ~/*
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22:42 Megaf once I did much worse than that
22:42 kaeza yes?
22:42 kaeza Jordach, my system clock isn't even right
22:42 Megaf at the time I knew just a really little English
22:42 Jordach dammit :3
22:42 Jordach fix it :3
22:42 Megaf and someone said to do the command wipe -azv /
22:42 Megaf to fix an issue I had
22:43 kaeza lol
22:43 Megaf and then I did that wipe
22:43 Megaf with all my disks and partitions mounted
22:43 Megaf including a backup disk
22:43 Megaf I lost several years worth of photography
22:44 Jordach you mean missing file links
22:44 Megaf so please folks, dont tell dangerous commands...
22:44 kaeza Jordach, Windows wants me to browse several pages, click half a dozen links, browse 20 more pages, to get to the spinbutton to change the time 3 hours back
22:44 Jordach if you were to manage to repair the file link to the datablock, it's recoverable
22:44 Megaf Jordach; the command wipe actually is used to wipe the content itself
22:44 Jordach Megaf, there's a large ~3 month hole in my Dropbox folder
22:44 Megaf wipe is intended to destroy data
22:44 Jordach because of rm -rf /
22:45 Jordach on my old desktop
22:45 kaeza <.<
22:45 * kaeza hides
22:45 Jordach kaeza, why'd you think i sync dropbox now :3
22:45 Megaf Jordach; I know dat feelin' bro
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22:52 VanessaE hi
22:52 Megaf Hi :)
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23:00 Exio4 \o/ got Real World Haskell
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23:47 Jordach hey paramat
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23:49 paramat hiya
23:51 Jordach paramat, down to 37 posts :D
23:55 paramat up to 42 mods ;)
23:55 Jordach universally computable :3
23:57 Jordach TIL Firefox supports APNG out of the box.
23:59 Jordach welp, i'm going to bed

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