Time Nick Message 00:00 OnceOver and im the only one on that server lol 00:00 ligeti see... Jalal is me! 00:00 ligeti just joined from that link 00:00 OnceOver you should hide that 00:00 ligeti I don't really care :P 00:01 OnceOver il make vpn =) now we on same network 00:01 OnceOver ty for the ip =) 00:01 ligeti lol good luck :) 00:01 ligeti it is a dynamic (yet public) IP 00:01 OnceOver fun fun i was kidding lol 00:01 ligeti to hack me you need more than just an IP 00:02 OnceOver ye but i should check my network activity on your ip =) 00:02 ligeti unless you are planning to DDoS me (which is pointless) 00:02 OnceOver naughty naughty 00:02 ligeti online? 00:02 ligeti well... 00:02 ligeti it is dynamic :) 00:02 ligeti so ... no record will be valuable 00:02 OnceOver ugh 00:02 ligeti because I don't live in USA ! 00:02 OnceOver lifes difficult 00:03 ligeti in USA the ISP (not all though) give static public ip for each customer 00:03 OnceOver i remember when yesterday you could just go to give my ip lag .net 00:03 OnceOver =) 00:03 ligeti where I live ... I get a new IP each time I reboot the modem/router or every 24 hours 00:04 ligeti and by the way ... I am a pentester lol 00:04 OnceOver i use my phone =) 00:05 OnceOver my ip renews every activiation aswell 00:05 ligeti so you are good! (I already have your IP though lol) 00:05 ligeti yes 00:05 ligeti it's true! 00:05 ligeti BUT! 00:05 ligeti if I send you a link... never open it! 00:05 ligeti I mean .... if someone 00:05 OnceOver =) 00:06 OnceOver i wish google took my zips 00:06 OnceOver gmail stoped accepting zips 00:06 ligeti really? 00:06 OnceOver so i cant send em to my friends anymore 00:06 ligeti I didn't know that! 00:06 ligeti can't you rename the extension? 00:06 OnceOver i used to SHUTDOWN.exe 00:06 ligeti lol 00:07 OnceOver on shortcut and send it as a video image and change the name 00:07 ligeti you can actually do more :) 00:07 OnceOver even i think it was like um -c -t 120 "your computers fried" 00:07 ligeti and replace IE or Firefox (firefox.exe) 00:08 ligeti or cmd.exe 00:08 OnceOver it would pop up a cmd prmt message saying that with a timer lol 00:09 ligeti my friends play this game... 00:09 ligeti we actually build servers and hack each others 00:09 OnceOver it is fun 00:09 ligeti it is 00:09 ligeti indeed 00:10 ligeti and a good practice 00:10 ligeti I wish one day to join a CTF game! 00:10 OnceOver shutdown -s -t 30 shutdown -c "you have been hacked!" 00:10 ligeti but I can't find a good team 00:10 OnceOver do that as a shortcut 00:10 SylvieLorxu OnceOver: Oh, so classic 00:10 OnceOver =) 00:10 SylvieLorxu I remember back in the days... I wrote a fake exploit for a game on ElitePVPers 00:11 SylvieLorxu It didn't do much 00:11 SylvieLorxu It copied a reboot file into the startup directory 00:11 SylvieLorxu And then shut the PC down 00:11 ligeti SylvieLorxu: you are on ElitePVPers??? 00:11 ligeti me too 00:11 SylvieLorxu Simple, yet evil 00:11 ligeti I ran Shaiya PS 00:11 OnceOver in school i did that on a computer class drive 00:11 OnceOver it was connected to two schools 00:11 SylvieLorxu ligeti: I used to have an account to mess with them, back when I was an alaplaya moderator, but by now I realised alaplaya is much more evil 00:12 OnceOver i heard 9 rebooting in the first 4 minutes 00:12 ligeti I used to make lots of msn sniffers 00:12 ligeti and MiTM attacks (+ wireless cracking) 00:13 ligeti but ... all for fun 00:13 ligeti and with friends only 00:13 OnceOver ye i felt really bad when i seen teacher click it 00:13 OnceOver i deleted file instantly 00:13 OnceOver some kid got up to show her 00:14 OnceOver lucky it was timed for 1 second or she would of seen it came from my computer 00:16 ligeti I wonder if the client (minetest) checks the sequence number as well... would be fun if they didn't :P 00:16 OnceOver i would like it 00:17 OnceOver if you fixed me up so i didn't have to =) 00:17 ligeti can you imagine flooding someone with text (from wikipedia) lol 00:17 ligeti all you need is their IP... 00:17 ligeti you can have it from IRC :P 00:17 OnceOver whos ip? 00:17 ligeti clients 00:17 ligeti players 00:18 ligeti the server checks the seq# 00:18 OnceOver =( 00:18 ligeti so it is hard (I think) to send commands and stuff! 00:21 OnceOver send what commands? 00:23 OnceOver way to pm me back =) 00:51 Piggybear87 !up minetest.org 30011 00:51 MinetestBot minetest.org:30011 seems to be down 01:16 Vazon Piggybear87 it should be up soon 01:16 Vazon OldCoder is away and as soon as he gets back i will see what he can do 01:17 Piggybear87 It's cool, It's probably moving right now. 01:19 Piggybear87 Be back in a sec. 01:20 OldCoder Hi 01:20 OldCoder I am here 01:20 OldCoder My host shut down for the move while I was on errands 01:20 OldCoder There is therefore a possibility of corruption or it may be fine 01:21 OldCoder Estimated time is one hour to complete a new clone and 30 to 90 minutes to move the domain name. 01:21 OldCoder Vazon, ^ 01:22 Vazon OldCoder you almost gave me a heart attack, you said possibility of corruption with out saying you could make a clone o.o 01:23 Taoki https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5383 Any chance anyone knows what license this texture pack is unger? 01:23 Taoki **under 01:26 OldCoder Vazon, the problem is, he shut down without me being there 01:26 Vazon OldCoder i may have just fixed the time outs 01:26 OldCoder The worlds may already be corrupted. But I have backups from only about 2 days ago 01:27 Vazon brb 01:28 Vazon back 01:28 OldCoder Vazon, see above 01:29 Vazon yes i saw it, did you see what i said? 01:31 Vazon OldCoder, can you use a stable client ( 0.4.9 stable) and connect to my server? 01:33 OldCoder What do you mean by "my server" ? 01:34 Vazon OldCoder i can still host my own server lol, im testing v7 mapgen and i think i have fixed our media problem 01:34 OldCoder Do you have a patch or something? 01:35 Vazon i think its a mod 01:35 OldCoder I can't connect anywhere right now; too busy with other things. But explain mod issue. 01:35 * OldCoder will bbs 5 minutes please continue 01:35 Vazon ok i was comparing the mods i have now and the ones from before 01:36 * OldCoder will bbs 5 minutes please continue 01:36 Vazon and they was all the same exept 1 i had antiguest last time and no_guest (generally the same mod but no_guest does alot more) and now im not even getting stuck on media 01:55 OldCoder Hm 01:55 OldCoder So, no anti-guest and we are blessed? 01:56 OldCoder Is this an understandable bug? 01:59 Vazon i dont think its a bug just a something in the mod is causeing something to go wrong else where, but i will not know till i see if people are still having problems logging in 01:59 Vazon and i really like this v7mapgen 02:01 Vazon OldCoder, are any of the servers you hosting running mapgen v7? 02:08 VanessaE bas080, cheapie ... ok you two, hash this out here :) 02:08 VanessaE so I can stop being the middlewoman :) 02:08 cheapie What's wrong with percentages? 02:10 bas080 hey cheapie 02:10 cheapie There's a reason that (for example) wget says things like "50%" instead of "5000/10000". 02:11 bas080 I said, "Cheapie liked the progress in percentiles. I choose to no longer do this because it represents the point system with flowers better" 02:11 bas080 furthermore, "It's not an opening tool. it's a grafting tool. That's the Jargon when it comes to beekeeping" 02:11 bas080 I do this to make things a bit educational 02:12 cheapie If you're going to do "points", at least provide some kind of explanation. 02:12 cheapie "521+16/1000" doesn't make any sense at all without looking through the code. 02:13 bas080 well, you can arrive at an answer by noticing that the amount of flowers that one places near the hive etermines the amount of +points 02:13 cheapie I see what you mean with the grafting tool, at least. 02:14 cheapie And this is better than something like "50% Complete (3% bonus from flowers)" how? 02:15 bas080 The disable particles is a good idea. I have noticed that some mods do this by using the API get global particles enabled or something like that. Not sure how to exactly do this but I have seen mods use this. 02:15 bas080 That way the settings preference is used 02:17 cheapie The global particles thing is an engine setting (I think) that turns off ALL particles whether the mods like it or not. Some users (me included) would like the particles when (for example) digging on, but don't like machines to look like they're flinging beeswax everywhere. 02:18 bas080 ok, that is useful indeed! 02:18 bas080 :) 02:20 bas080 For the capitalization I do not agree with your aproach. Yes many mods capitalize all words. I however choose to not capitalize anything in the hope the engine will take care of that one day 02:20 bas080 That way the engine can determine is words should be capitalized per word or only first word 02:22 cheapie bas080: What makes you think that's a good idea? Are you expecting grammar rules to suddenly change some day? 02:22 Hirato let's all adopt esperanto as the official minetest language 02:23 bas080 cheapie, You have removed the stack_max. I noticed you don't like the stack_max. I choose to use them because it this feature is not used enough. People should be more considered when it comes to using the player inventory and using stack_max forces them to do so. 02:23 * VanessaE kicks Hirato, just because. 02:23 VanessaE press 1 for english. 02:23 VanessaE npt. 02:23 VanessaE not*. 02:24 Hirato :P 02:24 bas080 cheapie, I don't think minetest is the best example of englsh grammar. 02:25 cheapie bas080: Doesn't mean that it should be purposely broken. 02:25 VanessaE bas080: I would suggest using cheapie's capitalization... your all-lowercase text will look kinda "unfinished" in-game, imho. 02:26 bas080 Fine, I'll go with it. 02:27 bas080 But only if it's not every word but just the first one 02:28 bas080 Otherwise it looks like every word is a description 02:28 cheapie bas080: Phrases (such as "Missing Queen Bee") are supposed to have all of the "major" words capitalized. 02:29 cheapie Sentences are supposed to be capitalized like this. 02:29 cheapie "Missing Queen Bee" is not a sentence. 02:30 bas080 If it is not a sentence, then what is it? 02:30 cheapie It's a phrase. 02:30 OldCoder Vazon, explain mapgen v7 02:30 * OldCoder is almost back 02:32 bas080 (in English) a sequence of two or more words that does not contain a finite verb and its subject or that does not consist of clause elements such as subject, verb, object, or complement, as a preposition and a noun or pronoun, an adjective and noun, or an adverb and verb. 02:33 bas080 Is missing a verb? 02:33 cheapie I don't think it's a "finite" verb here. 02:35 bas080 Having capitals does make things look more EPIC 02:35 bas080 grandiose is the word 02:36 VanessaE "Missing" is an adverb here. 02:36 VanessaE or an adjective, depending on how to see it 02:36 VanessaE it modifies Queen, or Queen-Bee 02:36 VanessaE therefore, it isn't a verb 02:37 cheapie VanessaE: So "Missing Queen Bee" is a phrase, right? 02:37 bas080 VanessaE, I think you are correct. The missing frame 02:37 VanessaE imho it forms a compound noun, therefore a phrase in the usual sense,. 02:37 VanessaE if it were a book title, all three words would be capitalized. 02:39 bas080 Is that because it is phrase or the title of a book? Names are indeed capitalized 02:39 bas080 It is the name of the book/film 02:39 bas080 This is not a name but displays the state of a node. 02:40 VanessaE right but Queen Bee is a title by itself 02:40 VanessaE and Missing is the first word of that phrase 02:40 VanessaE so in this particular instance, all three words should be capitalized 02:40 bas080 Point 02:40 cheapie VanessaE: Same for "Missing Empty Frame(s)", right? 02:41 VanessaE for an empty frame, I'd go with lower-case on the second two words but that becomes a style/preference thing. 02:41 cheapie "Missing empty frame(s)"? 02:41 VanessaE yeah 02:46 bas080 cheapie, if you would like, could you make three commits. One for the improved spelling, one for the particles another for the changes to readme. Also write a short description as to what you have added to the mod after your name. Please use spaces instead of tabs for indents. Then I'll make sure to merge when the request is made. 02:47 cheapie OK, I'll do that a bit later tonight. 02:49 Vazon back and OldCoder it is a map generation that is based on biomes 02:49 bas080 no hurries. I appreciate the input 02:51 OldCoder Vazon, the guest-noguest thing is map generation? but does it run during media load? 02:51 OldCoder Where is the lockup? 02:52 Vazon no the guest has nothing to do with the map generation lol 02:52 OldCoder Then where is the media lockup? 03:01 Vazon im seeing right now 03:43 Vazon need some people who are willing to do some server tests 03:44 Mallot1 hey guys :) 03:52 Vazon Hi Mallot 03:52 Mallot1 hi Vanzon :D :) 03:53 Vazon Mallot do you have time for running some tests? 03:57 Mallot1 what kind? Vanzon 03:57 Mallot1 Vazon 03:57 * Mallot1 just realized his name is Vazon nor Vanzon 03:57 Mallot1 *not 03:58 Vazon server tests, im tryingto find out is my servers media hangs 03:58 Vazon xD 03:58 Mallot1 sorry man 2 minutes till midnight 03:58 Mallot1 1 more week of school! :D 03:58 Mallot1 and monday 03:58 Vazon ok 04:01 Mallot1 then ill come and chill on mine test servers like old times B) 04:04 Vazon kk 04:07 Mallot1 *spanish 04:09 kaeza greetins 04:09 kaeza +g 04:09 if hi 04:11 Mallot1 good night all :D 04:14 Piggybear87 Nice! I can now launch Minetest by typing "mt" in my Terminal. :) 04:14 Piggybear87 OldCoder, How's the move coming along? 04:23 OldCoder Piggybear87, server comes up in about 5 minutes 04:23 OldCoder with a clone completed 04:23 OldCoder There will be another outage in the next few days 04:23 OldCoder for transition to the clone 04:23 Piggybear87 WooHoo! I came back just in time! 04:23 OldCoder Then a third outage in about 7 to 10 days 04:23 anoldhacker1 Just installed on my newly-Mint box. Are there MOBs in this game? 04:23 OldCoder For transition back to the physical server 04:23 OldCoder Which will be on a truck in the interim 04:24 Piggybear87 Wow, how far is it moving? 04:24 OldCoder This is the timeline Piggybear87. Now wait 5 and the world should be up for 12 to 36 hours before the next outage. Probably 10 to 25 miles. 04:24 OldCoder The outage of about 26 hours is regretted 04:24 Piggybear87 anoldhacker1, Yes, if you install that mod. 04:24 OldCoder I should have told him I didn't want to use rsync 04:24 OldCoder 04:25 anoldhacker1 Ahh. Okay. I was wondering why it is so quiet. 04:26 OldCoder It's quiet 04:26 OldCoder Too quiet 04:26 OldCoder >_> 04:26 OldCoder <_< 04:26 anoldhacker1 :D 04:26 anoldhacker1 Opening the mod store crashes my client. :( 04:26 Piggybear87 So, in about 5 it will be up for 12-36 hours, then it will be out for for a few hours, then in 7 to 10 days it will be out again for a few hours? 04:27 Piggybear87 anoldhacker1, What OS are you on? 04:27 anoldhacker1 Linux-Mint 17/Mate. 04:27 Piggybear87 Do you self compile? 04:28 anoldhacker1 All snark aside, I did the tool install this time. 04:28 anoldhacker1 There's something in Mint called "package manager" which is a front-front end. 04:28 Piggybear87 Does tool mean something like software center? 04:28 Piggybear87 Oh, OK. You have an older version. 04:29 Piggybear87 Of Minetest* 04:29 anoldhacker1 Ain't it the truth. 04:29 anoldhacker1 So annoying. 04:29 OldCoder Piggybear87, there is a possibility of damage due to abrupt shutdown. Enter in a few minutes and tell me if things look all right. 04:29 anoldhacker1 0.4.9 04:30 Vazon mhmmmm 04:30 OldCoder Vazon, ^ 04:30 Piggybear87 If you self compile Minetest, in the "cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1" part, add "-DENABLE_CURL=1" 04:30 anoldhacker1 Wait. 0.4.9 appears to be current. 04:31 Piggybear87 That allows you to use the modstore and connect to newer servers. 04:31 anoldhacker1 And I take it that the OS version is borked & I should remove it & do an install from source? 04:31 Piggybear87 Yes, but we all (almost all) use 0.4.9-dev 04:31 anoldhacker1 Well, I certainly want to be one of the cool kids. ;) 04:31 OldCoder anoldhacker1, what OS or distro is this for? And is it about server or client? 04:32 Piggybear87 OldCoder, It's for Linux Mint. 04:32 anoldhacker1 Linux-Mint/Mate 17. 04:32 OldCoder AndrewPH, easy enough to build 04:32 OldCoder Oops 04:32 OldCoder anoldhacker1, * 04:32 anoldhacker1 I don't know how it is configured, so I'm saying client. 04:32 Piggybear87 Lol, I almost did that. 04:32 OldCoder I'm occupied ATM but I can talk you through it later or tomorrow 04:32 Vazon yes i saw it 04:33 AndrewPH OldCoder: I will find you, and I will kill you 04:33 Piggybear87 Lmfao! 04:33 anoldhacker1 ./configure && make && make test && make install 04:33 anoldhacker1 Modulo the above, of course. 04:33 anoldhacker1 :P 04:33 OldCoder AndrewPH, I regret the accidental highlight. Can I make it up to you? 04:33 AndrewPH $20 04:33 OldCoder anoldhacker1, it is not a usual ./configure program 04:33 OldCoder AndrewPH, $20 worth of my time and advice 04:34 AndrewPH No, that's like offering me $20 worth of candy bought via EBT 04:34 anoldhacker1 K. 1) Read README. 2) Follow. 04:34 OldCoder Is such candy not up to usual standards? 04:34 OldCoder Surely a highlight is not so devasting 04:34 OldCoder Though it should not be overdone 04:34 AndrewPH I cried for months 04:34 Piggybear87 "I have a certain set of skills, skills I have acquired over a long period of time..." - AndrewPH 04:36 Mallot1 ano1dhacker1: its a fun game :) 04:36 Mallot1 especially on windows 8.1 04:36 anoldhacker1 Compiling software? 04:37 anoldhacker1 I prefer to make virus writers work to get me. :P 04:37 Mallot1 :P 04:37 Piggybear87 :) 04:37 Mallot1 Windows 8.1 is pretty nice though 04:37 Mallot1 nice UI 04:38 Mallot1 live tiles the works 04:38 * Piggybear87 keeps mouth closed... 04:38 * Mallot1 's ready for action 04:38 * Mallot1 senses LOL ing 04:40 Mallot1 woah! look at the time i just gotta figure out how to segue to the next view controller on a storyboard programmatically 04:40 Piggybear87 OldCoder, Everything looks fine. max_lag is a little high, but not bad. 04:41 OldCoder Piggybear87, max_lag would be unrelated to abrupt shutdown. Possibly because host is cloning many systems tonight. 04:41 Piggybear87 Mallot1, Don't fear the penguins... :) 04:41 OldCoder This copy should continue for 12 to 36 hours or so. I'll try to snapshot it once or twice a day. 04:41 Piggybear87 OK. 04:42 Piggybear87 !seen us`0gb 04:42 MinetestBot Piggybear87: us`0gb was last seen at 2014-06-14 04:48:57 UTC on #minetest 04:43 Mallot1 Piggybear87: never fear! got a VM of Ubuntu Desktop and I'm using my Mac book pro OSX Mavericks right now ;) 04:43 Mallot1 working on an pp 04:43 Mallot1 *app 04:44 Piggybear87 Why not just make the switch then? 04:44 Mallot1 naw man, my Windows laptop was expensive 04:44 Mallot1 and i ran Mac on VM before i brought this mac 04:45 Piggybear87 -cough-You payed for Windows, not the laptop-cough- 04:45 Mallot1 and i have all my Windows Store licenses 04:45 Mallot1 Piggybear87: xD yeah *HP stinks* 04:46 Mallot1 alright see ya guys! tell me if you spot jacraig1's server. Im a mod 04:46 Mallot1 :) maybe ill get back to mintiest modding 04:46 Piggybear87 I built 2 computer online, same hardware, one with windows 8 one with Ubuntu 14.04. The one with Ubuntu was 150 bucks cheaper. 04:47 Mallot1 zD 04:49 Piggybear87 Whelp, almost 1am, I think it's a good time for bed. If you need me PM and I will read it in the morning. Good night all! 04:50 anoldhacker1 Build/install question. 04:50 Mallot1 night! 04:50 anoldhacker1 Looks like leveldb is preferred. 04:50 anoldhacker1 night, Mallot1! 04:51 anoldhacker1 Anything else in that set that I should turn on/off? 04:51 Mallot1 night ano1dhacker1 remember to build/install ;) 04:51 anoldhacker1 (Besides curl) 04:51 anoldhacker1 :P 04:51 Mallot1 B) 05:09 anoldhacker1 minetest/minetest_game cmake . -LH 05:10 anoldhacker1 CMake Error: The source directory "/home/zooks/work/minetest/minetest_game" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt. 05:11 anoldhacker1 git clone seems to have it. 05:12 * Eater4 pokes ShadowNinja 05:13 kaeza anoldhacker1, minetest_game doesn't need cmake; minetest does 05:14 anoldhacker1 I'm doing a build that can load mods. I'm following the README, which suggests it does. 05:27 VanessaE anoldhacker1: all Minetest builds can load mods. 05:28 VanessaE there is nothing special that you need to do. 05:28 VanessaE just build the engine, install the game content to the minetest games directory, and mods go in minetest's mods directory. 05:28 VanessaE that's all 05:29 VanessaE (the games and mods directories will either be right there in the minetest dir where the sources are, or ~/.minetest if you installed the engine globally) 05:54 * VanessaE pokes anoldhacker1 05:54 anoldhacker1 I just got back. :P 05:54 VanessaE see above. 05:54 anoldhacker1 Got it. 05:54 anoldhacker1 The system-installed version was crashing. 05:55 anoldhacker1 I misread the instructions. I didn't catch the "git clone" at the top--made things a bit confusing. 05:55 VanessaE yup :) 05:55 VanessaE you need the engine, and you probably want the game content, but that isn't strictly necessary as there are multiple games you can run 05:56 anoldhacker1 Start with self, go from there... :) 05:57 anoldhacker1 And...I'm in the mod store. :) :) 06:04 anoldhacker1 Hmmm... Attempting to create a new world is bombing. "No world name given or no game selected". 07:02 nman3600 Hello markv, you awake? 07:02 nman3600 hi 07:05 anoldhacker1 So, is there a server I can try logging in to? 07:05 nman3600 anoldhacker1, Mark twain's server? 07:05 kaeza http://servers.minetest.net/ 07:06 anoldhacker1 ty 07:06 nman3600 !tell markv Can you give me these privs back on your server (I no longer have them): Fly Noclip and creative. 07:06 MinetestBot nman3600: I'll pass that on when markv is around 07:11 anoldhacker1 "attempt to index local 'world' (a nil value)" 07:11 anoldhacker1 Is there a password? 07:14 anoldhacker1 Ahh.. Wrong tab. 07:40 elanc is project still alive? 07:42 kaeza what do you mean? 08:05 Zeno` kaeza, I think the fix is fine 08:05 kaeza alright 08:05 Zeno` no issues so far, but I'll monitor it overnight (when it's busier than now) 08:05 kaeza I'll just push to master then 08:06 Zeno` I think so 08:19 VanessaE damn. 08:19 VanessaE someone grab the epoxy 08:19 VanessaE glue this split back together. 08:22 Zeno` that's not a split 08:22 Zeno` that's just a minor hiccup lol 08:23 VanessaE heh 08:23 VanessaE true 08:23 VanessaE I remember the days of EFNet/IRCnet before those two permanent separately 08:24 VanessaE permanently separated* 08:24 Zeno` And then Dianora started hybrid 08:24 Zeno` I miss those days 08:24 Zeno` kind of 08:25 VanessaE I don't :P 08:25 VanessaE "Oops, the network is reaching critical mass again.." 08:25 Zeno` lol 08:25 VanessaE at about 20-22 k users, splitsville. 08:26 Zeno` did you know I'm pretty famous? 08:26 Zeno` I have 1 line in the current ircd and most of its forks lol 08:27 Zeno` well,, not even a line really... just 2 characters :3 08:27 Zeno` ok, that's not very famous 08:27 VanessaE haha 08:32 anoldhacker1 Well, bedtime. 08:50 kaeza >Out of the 25 additional people that completed the challenge, the following 3 won a cloak through the cloak lottery: skasturi, danielg4, jojoa1997 10:13 Krock Hello. 11:37 Taoki Anyone know why groups aren't working for entities? I'm trying to disable normal damage on a Lua entity (when punched by player) but it's not doing anything; groups = {immortal=1, punch_operable=1, "immortal", "punch_operable"}, 11:49 kaeza Taoki, I think you need to call set_armor_groups() or such 11:49 Taoki Right... tried that out and it actually works now, my mistake :P 11:50 PenguinDad Hello everypony! 11:51 VanessaE hi PenguinDad 11:51 Jordach hello VanessaE :3 11:52 VanessaE hey 11:59 * Jordach gives VanessaE http://www.bash.org/?612 11:59 VanessaE heh 12:02 Jordach lololololololol http://www.bash.org/?953373 12:05 VanessaE heh 12:08 Megaf Hi 12:09 PenguinDad lol http://www.bash.org/?244321 12:13 Megaf Lol 12:17 PenguinDad Megaf: you know what sucks? http://www.bash.org/?99835 12:17 VanessaE haha 12:26 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix issue #1275 - wielded index greater than inv size. cb3b42efe4 2014-06-17T14:17:53+02:00 http://git.io/cdxH7w 12:36 MinetestBot w_laenger: 05-24 12:48 UTC https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=142596#p142596 the edit part 12:39 w_laenger hi 12:39 MinetestBot w_laenger: 06-14 17:44 UTC sup? 12:43 VanessaE bbl 12:47 w_laenger MinetestBot, are there more messages? 12:56 Eater4 If you need help on servers or if you know how to run servers then come to #minetest-serv 13:18 w_laenger hi 13:36 Krock Aww..forgot to close this IRC... 13:36 Krock ahatever..I'm online 13:37 * w_laenger too 13:38 * sfan5 meows at Krock 13:38 * Krock quaks at sfan5 13:39 Krock +1 kaeza for the new avatar 13:41 w_laenger how can I use github submodules? 13:46 kaeza :3 13:47 sfan5 w_laenger: 1) it's git, not github 2) did you try google yet? 13:48 sfan5 ,0 13:51 WidDos Ok Join the IRC! Now how do I save my User? 13:51 Krock welcome 13:51 Krock ./msg NickServ register nick pass 13:51 Krock s/nick/email 13:52 WidDos Oops how I change password 13:53 Krock - NickServ: Other commands: ACC, ACCESS, CERT, DROP, HELP, LOGOUT, 13:53 Krock - NickServ: REGAIN, SETPASS, STATUS, TAXONOMY, VERIFY 13:53 Krock idk if you're allowed to use setpass...check it out 13:54 WidDos Ok. since I hited enter to soon so it set to nick the pass 13:54 w_laenger sfan5, 1. sorry 2. yes, I did 13:55 w_laenger http://www.ralfebert.de/git/submodules/ 13:57 PenguinDad !git w_laenger 13:57 MinetestBot w_laenger, someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Git, please go to: http://git-scm.com/book/ 13:58 * Krock clicks, too 13:58 w_laenger thanks 13:59 Krock every 2nd page is a 500 error... *hits F5* 14:00 WidDos So I What is my key to change password? 14:00 w_laenger https://vimeo.com/98421432 14:00 Krock try this: /msg NickServ setpass?!?!?! 14:01 w_laenger >NickServ< setpass?!?!?! \n -NickServ- Invalid command. Use /msg NickServ help for a command listing. 14:01 WidDos The Syntax is /msg Nickserv SETPASS 14:01 WidDos And I have no Idea what the key is 14:01 w_laenger I didn't set a pass 14:01 Krock email? 14:02 WidDos I will try 14:02 PenguinDad WidDos: your odd password 14:02 PenguinDad *old 14:05 PenguinDad NickServ (NickServ@services.): SETPASS allows you to set a new password using a key emailed to you. 14:05 w_laenger MinetestBot, 500 Internal server error There was an error processing your request. We have been notified of the error and will investigate ASAP. We apologize for the inconvenience. 14:06 Krock why the hell is git so compilcated? 14:06 Krock simple functions like commit, remove commit and merge would be enough 14:07 PenguinDad Krock: are you kidding? 14:07 Krock no 14:07 Krock or that book makes it very complicated 14:08 Krock damn you, CLI 14:08 w_laenger I tried to clone https://github.com/HybridDog/zegaton_game with the submodules 14:09 WidDos Dang it keeps saying "Verification failed. Invalid key for WidDos." 14:09 w_laenger but... git submodule update --init Keine Submodul-Zuordnung in .gitmodules für Pfad 'mods/boats' gefunden 14:09 w_laenger I think I did something wrong 14:10 w_laenger but last time it worked 14:10 PenguinDad w_laenger: try "git submodule sync" 14:11 w_laenger data:image/jpg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD/4AAcT2NhZCRSZXY6IDIwMTkzICQAAAAAAAAAAFj/2wCEAAYEBAYIBggICAgJCAgICQsKCgoKCwwKCgsKCgwQDAwMDAwMEAwODxAPDgwTExQUExMcGxsbHB8fHx8fHx8fHx8BBxAQICAgICAgIEBAQEBAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgP/AABEIAVAB5QMBEQACEQEDEQH/xACeAAABBQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAEAgMFBgcBAAgJAQADAQEBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIDBAUGEAABAgQDBQUFBQUHAgUCBgABAgMABBEhBRIxBhMiQVEHMmFxgRQjQpGhM1JicrEIFcHR8CR 14:11 w_laenger DU4KS4fEWNCVjc6KyF1QYRGR0k8IRAQEBAQACAgIDAQAAAAAAAAABAhEDEiExBEETUWEi/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwDPNp8XWqXCa1/qkczVUkTS+aa1vpHO60PiC8z/AEvHVHHr7ab2c7MzEzRaCKUiXZnTTcM2AkMQWtiZNVUpaxhdPW3v/wANuDJWVNOOJUb94xnYwiPxH9m1pyuScdTXxhTJ2qs1+z7Oy0+QiZzClaqFTHRNMbAEx2C4vNTbmR1KNdAaGFdq9QU5+zZtEK5XG1ehifcvRQdqtgMYwR9CZ5rKlZolaalJMbSs7EO+1T5Q0BQowKLDnWAHmFZlU6wiOG1YR9cDqL3g4rpaVHrWFxXsWFL8Yji/Z3eGDh+xaZiDh9KD4uf0hH0pLzcJfSkhnrAC90g6KHrCLhXsteYvAOHWZRY6GM18 14:11 w_laenger L9lX0+UPrTjxaI5KhF6kK9fWEjgDEVcB8o3jDSJcMbuY2YoFtawqBDR49a1iKcS6BT5COd1FhUIOpP6wjNzB4DFQaT2xrPuirrHJ5q7vx4sbp4wI896wTaWZDcorxBjbxz5c/lvwzFSs1fG8e8+YKbdpCBt1VvOAkspwCRGU60EQsFK9+HSg2beVpWIi0W4eI3jZmbWYCLlG6r9IKqJcthtFzHO6+A3lJvzjRhQ60kesWy4ntjBSc3v3BGe2mCNpsQL88tRNb0+ULMPVRLi/GNWS47I1ZTvAdBW/jHFr5ehj6Rm1W0L02+cyqpSaDpQR0ZjjtRUmecOpO+2He19Ini+rg5g01Op4V8yfmY1Qfb2MxBNOIEeFIy429gs72fTS1Z83jpGrG1rHZUy1LNbtTqcwtQmh0jNssGELfY2jccJO6Wm3SsZ9U 14:11 w_laenger 0FzHWUd5Yv4xsxIXtAxlPGNIXS4y7G9ocQViDq0OBKNExtN5YXOkjsxjk+0VOOqDgN7Gscl3HbnFWdG2Z/wzE+y/VWe0OWlcew4yriMpqDmtUEGusR7H6sQ2y7PcNw1Cd9OhtS+6k8SjfkmOiaYayo6tnCrMZaZYmEj7qsq6flUAY26z5/qLmpR1leVcWC8P+1EOs6Jn2wKmJNGjnzhmelTx6wqqJUecYOjjr7fuqxrHNSZSXW5UBGa1fIV1rCNPM4MjhlWqOuzKgnQ17lainjFpQs9hi2H1suVbcbspKtQfHWMlh0sHkqH0Pbh3rXygPryVrHODh+xwTDw6mF6tPc63iTvUxHq0mxCMWc8D5xHq19zicVQe82DE+o9nnHZJffb/r0h/IvDKsMwxfxFNfGkP2qPWEHZqVV3H/nSD+Sl/F/pCdlHfh 14:11 sfan5 !kick w_laenger 14:45 kaeza wat 14:57 kaeza Krock, That was not his question. He depends on `pipeworks', so if his mod is getting loaded, it means pipeworks is installed and working correctly. 14:57 kaeza ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=145305#p145305 ) 14:59 Krock edited 15:00 Krock ^kaeza 15:01 Megaf I want this laptop http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-003-B 15:01 kaeza still wrong 15:01 Megaf Sound like a good replacement for my EeePC 701 15:01 Krock what still wrong? 15:01 kaeza PS: that didn't highlight me 15:02 Krock PS: do I need to highlight you? 15:02 kaeza ^kaeza 15:02 Krock oh 15:03 kaeza if `pipeworks` is nil, something is wrong there, yet the dependency was satisfied, and the mod loaded 15:04 Krock if kaeza ~= nil then get_messages() end 15:04 Krock *if kaeza ~= nil then if get_messages ~= nil then get_messages() end 15:04 Krock end 15:05 kaeza >not using `and` 15:10 * Jordach pokes kaeza 15:10 * kaeza pokes Jordach back 15:10 Jordach RealBadAngel, where dem m357n0d35 15:10 Jordach sfan5, krunk out a new build pl0x 15:11 kaeza mestnodes? 15:11 Krock metnodes 15:11 Krock aww 15:11 Krock ninja'd by kaeza 15:11 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/a0f78659f31abdce973bc6641b5b5a58f2ba9afc 15:12 RealBadAngel Jordach, soon, i do have two weeks for coding, doing now all the ideas and small thingies i had on my list 15:12 Jordach RealBadAngel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1YmS_VDvMY 15:13 Jordach there has never been a better time for that one act of that film 15:14 Krock ahhaha 15:14 Jordach TIL there's a college course with PROPER FUCKING IT USE 15:14 Krock yesterday, the freedom server was at maxlag = 5s, today at 42s 15:15 Jordach >computer animation (2d, 3d), digital graphics, hardware 15:16 Jordach and they order pizza every two weeks 15:27 kaeza another crap post by Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=145312#p145312 15:27 Krock thx 15:28 Krock I like to post crappy things 15:32 nman3600 Hai 15:32 PenguinDad Shark 15:32 Krock ^ 15:39 Taoki Hi, I have a tricky question: I have the following line: "for _,obj in ipairs(minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius(...) do mytable[obj] = 1 end". Is it later possible to do "for i, target in pairs(mytable) do i:get_luaentity() end"? 15:40 Taoki In other words, if I add an entry to a table as an object, can I later use that entry as the object itself? 15:40 Taoki A similar question: If I do "local i = obj" (where obj is a Lua entity), can I then do "if i:get_luaentity()" somewhere else in the code? 15:41 Krock tryit 15:43 Taoki The SimpleMobs code seems to indicate that it works. But I'm not sure if Lua entities are stored as actual objects, or these are references I can use however I like 15:44 Krock sfan5, I started again a little try to get leveldb running with your zip archive from buildbot. Now, the cmake outputs me the following error: http://pastebin.com/qYDKgnUg Is it even windows-compatible? 15:46 Krock Taoki, for those problems, I mostly create some dummycode and test it :P 15:48 PenguinDad Krock: you know that this is just a warning? 15:48 Krock PenguinDad, yes but I don't want any problems in it. So I try to go around warnings 15:50 Krock ah yes, I wrote "error" instead of warning 15:53 Krock fun fact: first cmake files got created on Friday 13, 13:37 15:58 Krock no one likes me :( 16:03 sfan5 Krock: ignore the warning, it should work 16:03 Krock okay thanks, sfan5 16:04 Krock it actually seems to compile right so far 16:22 Vazon Morning guys 16:22 kaeza mornings Vazon 16:22 markv Hello people 16:22 MinetestBot markv: 06-17 07:06 UTC Can you give me these privs back on your server (I no longer have them): Fly Noclip and creative. 16:22 markv nman3600, Nope 16:22 nman3600 markv: Why 16:22 markv Prove yourself a worthy Super moderator to have them 16:22 markv No other moderator does 16:23 nman3600 Ah k 16:23 markv Sorry, had to sync the privs, that's all 16:23 Vazon Hi kaeza 16:23 Vazon mark how is your server running? 16:23 nman3600 markv Are you online now (your server) 16:23 * markv checks 16:23 Vazon They should be online 16:24 markv yup 16:24 Vazon kaeza, OldCoder needs to talk to you and ShadowNinja 16:24 nman3600 markv, can you come on your server now to explain to me what i can do for Super moderator 16:24 OldCoder 16:25 kaeza speaking of the devil :) 16:25 kaeza hi OldCoder 16:26 OldCoder kaeza, hey 16:26 Vazon OldCoder, hi :) 16:26 OldCoder Yo 16:28 Krock sfan5, yeah. it should work. sadly it didn't: LINK : fatal error LNK1181: Eingabedatei "libleveldb.dll.a.lib" kann nicht ge÷ffnet werden. [src\minetest.vcxproj] 16:28 Jordach :O 16:28 Jordach 42 posts until 4l 16:28 Jordach 4k* 16:28 sfan5 Krock: you need to compile leveldb yourself then 16:28 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 16:28 Jordach sfan5, make minetest git client please :3 16:29 Krock Jordach, okay.. take it asy and don't spam not those left posts :P 16:29 sfan5 Jordach: you mean a build? in a few mins maybe 16:29 Jordach Krock, there's a trash area of the forum for that 16:29 Jordach ;) 16:29 Krock .... 16:30 markv OldCoder, Could I get IRC back? 16:30 markv IRC mod 16:30 ShadowNinja OldCoder: o/ What is it, MT_IRC? 16:30 Jordach TIL my headset attracts a lot of hair 16:30 Krock hmm... what would happen when I rename "libleveldb.dll.a" to "libleveldb.dll.lib"? 16:30 Vazon mark 16:30 OldCoder ShadowNinja, markv, kaeza Need to discuss IRC mod after things settle down 16:31 ShadowNinja Krock: .dll is a windows shared library extension, .lib is a static library extension, .a is a Linux static library extension, all it's missing is .so! 16:31 kaeza OldCoder, feel free to PM when you are ready 16:31 Krock ShadowNinja, but there's no *.so file in *leveldb* 16:31 sfan5 ShadowNinja: .dll.a files are generated by mingw as a replacement for .lib's 16:32 ShadowNinja sfan5: Ah. 16:32 sfan5 s/as a replacement/instead of/ 16:32 Krock so, would a rename work or is that just a dumb idea? 16:32 sfan5 Krock: probably not 16:32 Krock okay 16:32 * Krock trashes leveldb 16:32 OldCoder kaeza, Move will take about a week 16:32 Krock R.I.P 16:33 kaeza OldCoder, alright 16:33 PenguinDad Krock: I want to rest in pies too! 16:33 Krock PenguinDad, what ya mean? 16:34 Krock oh 16:34 Krock RIP 16:34 Krock I get it 16:34 PenguinDad R.I.P. == Rest in Pies 16:35 OldCoder Could do worse 16:35 Krock The connection in my brain can hang up sometimes and can take up to (uint)-1 seconds 16:35 Krock or so. 16:35 twoelk eek brainlag 16:35 Krock ^ 16:37 Krock agh.. again a TL;DR thread 16:37 Krock s/thread/post 16:39 Krock +1 for twoelk's batch script 16:41 ShadowNinja Krock: ~136.2 year lag? Might want to work on that. 16:41 ShadowNinja (At least on most computers) 16:41 Krock ShadowNinja, some things I can't understand -> more than lifetime 16:42 ShadowNinja It can technically be only 18 hours acording to the C89 standard though. 16:43 Krock btw, shadowbot is not here :( 16:43 Krock I luv'd it 16:44 kaeza and you are missing on #-technic D: 16:44 kaeza (and several others) 16:45 Krock kaeza, hmm? 16:45 kaeza Krock, mmh? 16:46 Krock mmh ,azeak? 16:47 kaeza ¿ɯɯɥ 'ʞɔoɹ⋊ 16:47 kaeza dat K 16:49 markv I need a creative mod... 16:50 Jordach lel 17:02 ShadowNinja Krock: Yes, it seems like her server is being moved to a place with a better connection now. 17:03 Krock ehm okay 17:09 Krock ShadowNinja, what would be a dummy-value of "CUSTOM_GETTEXT_PATH"? It seems like it doesn't switch the languages ingame with my new build 17:10 Krock the "locale" folder exist in the parent-folder of "bin" 17:11 Krock hi 17:16 Krock lol 17:19 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvO2iIBYvYk 17:20 Artemis3 where is ponyville server john_minetest 17:21 * Jordach thought meshnodes was in order 17:33 ShadowNinja Krock: Yes, the language is a startup option. 17:33 ShadowNinja I don't know about CUSTOM_GETTEXT_PATH. 17:39 Krock ShadowNinja, the debug output seems to be correct ("19:21:57: INFO[main]: Message locale is now set to: LC_COLLATE=German_Switze...") but somehow it can't load those language files 17:40 Krock I guess you never cared about this because you speak english :/ 17:44 * Krock copied and pasted some other locale folder from a minetest build and it worked...uh 17:45 blaise !up midnightsystems.net 17:45 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (460ms) 17:45 blaise datz Reight! 17:46 blaise mudda pucka! 18:06 ligeti Hello :) 18:06 Krock hi 18:17 MinetestBot john_minetest: [North Korea] Hail N.Korean Communist Party (English Subtitle) - YouTube 18:18 sfan5 meow 18:18 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((((--< 18:18 * sfan5 noms it 18:19 * PenguinDad eats a >-))))))°> 18:19 Jordach john_minetest, !title 18:19 Jordach less lines :) 18:21 * Jordach slaps a kaeza 18:21 Jordach with a glove 18:21 Krock Jordach, you're the slapping king.. a new one must be there! 18:21 * Krock points at IRC stats 18:22 Jordach Krock, i chaimpion the late UTC+0 hours 18:22 Jordach VanessaE takes the early morning :P 18:23 Krock I saw 18:23 Krock I'm the co-king at slapping 18:23 Krock yay! 18:23 * Jordach slaps Krock 18:23 Jordach nope.avi 18:23 * Krock slaps Jordach 18:23 * Jordach slaps Krock 18:23 sfan5 Jordach: y u no .mkv? 18:23 * Krock slaps kaeza 18:23 * sfan5 flips Krock 18:23 * Krock flops sfan5 18:24 Amaz sfan5: y u no .mts? 18:24 Amaz :P 18:24 Krock why no .mpeg? 18:24 sfan5 .mts is mpeg 18:24 Krock ah 18:24 Jordach that's a minetest schematic 18:24 Jordach wtf are you even doing D: 18:24 Amaz Also a video format.. 18:24 sfan5 Jordach: .mts can be mpeg too 18:25 Krock .flv! 18:25 sfan5 eww 18:25 kaeza kill it with fire! 18:25 Krock >:D 18:25 sfan5 y u no Matroska? 18:25 * sfan5 sets Krock on fire 18:25 Jordach H.264! 18:25 * Krock slaps fire until it dies 18:26 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1380 → I kind of dislike this formspec-bashing 18:26 Calinou it's unproductive, like most program-bashing 18:26 * Amaz pours petrol over Krock, then sets fire to the petrol 18:26 * Krock jumps in water 18:27 sfan5 Calinou: the problem is we are 100% right, formspecs are bad and should just go die 18:27 * Krock waits until krock:get_breath() < 2 18:27 Jordach Calinou, then how about we remove sapier from being a core dev 18:27 * sfan5 taps Krock 18:27 Jordach that solves most of our problems 18:27 * Krock comes up - fire gone 18:27 * kaeza read that with an 'f' 18:27 kaeza D: 18:27 sfan5 kaeza: D: 18:27 kaeza cannot unsee 18:29 ecutruin o/ 18:29 Calinou found a 50 block-high plateau on a singleplayer world 18:29 Calinou sfan5, what's wrong with them? 18:29 Calinou the language used to define them seems to be fairly logical 18:29 Calinou you specify a position and what to put in that position 18:29 Calinou it doesn't especially feel like black magic 18:30 kaeza could be cool if it was implemented using named fields 18:30 * kaeza hides 18:30 sfan5 Calinou: but the position is in inventory fields 18:30 sfan5 inventory fields 18:30 sfan5 inventory fields!! 18:31 Calinou how does screenshot naming work? 18:31 Calinou it's like screenshot_somenumberthatmakessomesense.png 18:31 Calinou but what does the number mean? 18:31 Krock random! 18:31 Calinou it doesn't feel so random 18:31 kaeza ms since epoch? 18:31 Calinou sfan5, what's wrong with that? 18:31 dzho seconds since the epoch? 18:32 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/vu_w7M3lI4_D.jpg 18:32 Calinou here's the plateau 18:32 Calinou Y = 43 atm ost 18:32 Calinou at most* 18:32 sfan5 Calinou: I think it's illogical 18:32 sfan5 screenshots are named after time 18:32 sfan5 but some weird sort of time 18:32 Calinou inventory fields are predictable, no? 18:33 Calinou since they're some kind of square 18:34 sfan5 since they're some kind of square 18:34 sfan5 right there, you have it 18:35 sfan5 nobody knows how big they exactly ae 18:35 sfan5 are* 18:35 Ritchie hello :) 18:35 * Krock sais hello 18:35 * sfan5 meows at Ritchie 18:35 Ritchie I found Minetest on ThePirateBay https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/8777601/Minetest_0.4.7_%28HOT%29___New_Minecraft__ 18:36 * sfan5 did too 18:36 sfan5 it seems entirely pointless having a free game on TPB 18:37 sfan5 but when you look closely you see it actually _is_ entirely pointless and does not just seem so 18:37 Ritchie yeah I agree 18:39 Ritchie and this is quite untrusted and can have malware included 18:41 Jordach it's the cracks from the well known teams you don't have to worry about (why'd you think there are different coloured skull ranks for) 18:50 Calinou http://bashrcgenerator.com/ → interesting 18:52 DS__ !title 18:52 MinetestBot DS__: .bashrc generator: create your .bashrc PS1 with a drag and drop interface 18:56 Calinou sfan5, about formspec… I'd rather have coloured text support everywhere (console) :p 18:56 Calinou like Freeminer has 18:56 Calinou quite important for making /help and /privs more readable 18:57 DS__ http://notevendoommusic.com !title 18:57 DS__ !title 18:57 MinetestBot DS__: NEDM 18:59 DS__ the coolest guy in github: https://github.com/celeron55 18:59 DS__ !title 18:59 MinetestBot DS__: celeron55 · GitHub 19:04 Krock ye. title is useful 19:04 PilzAdam Calinou, what a shitty website that only works with JS 19:06 Calinou added Jumping by Jeija in Carbone (cushions and trampolines) 19:25 CWz does anybody else hate it when someone bashes your head in with their opinions and views? 19:27 Amaz What Wuzzy said makes a lot of sense... 19:31 Amaz But I agree that he can be very like what you said.. 19:32 CWz Yeah I pm'ed him and metaphorically tore him to shreds over it. 19:40 DS__ hey, hybridog made a full automatic rocket launcher: http://vimeo.com/98421432 19:40 DS__ !title 19:40 MinetestBot DS__: minetest fullautomatic rocket launcher on Vimeo 19:47 nman3600 Heyo 19:49 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Remove not really used guiTextInputMenu c0e4551249 2014-06-17T21:27:40+02:00 http://git.io/2MBKgQ 20:21 PenguinDad Now they'r back 20:21 PenguinDad +e 20:45 ecutruin Damn, tons of splits. 20:47 PenguinDad A ton of Banana split or anything like that is far too much for me 20:50 * ecutruin laughs. 20:55 PenguinDad Anyways I got to go 21:26 VanessaE good afternoon (to whoever's still on this side of that last split) 21:27 ecutruin Hey V. 21:30 Vazon of what? 21:31 * Vazon can't figure out what mod is causing players to time out 21:44 Vazon VanessaE: any idea what would cuase the media to freeze when login to a servet 21:45 Jordach Vazon, because minetest is still singlethreaded so other parts of Minetest either stop or appear hung until that finishes 21:45 Jordach basically, a sort of race condition where each part is fighting to be done first 21:47 Vazon grrr, anyway to fix this?? becuase other wise my servers are useless unless i remove some of my mods 21:47 Jordach Vazon, cURL media servers help by far 21:48 Jordach without them it took me at least 40 minutes or more to get to VanessaE's biggest, with cURL media, at least 5 21:48 Vazon well the one hosted by OldCoder is worse and it uses cURL and has the same mods 21:48 Jordach you're doing it wrong :) 21:48 OldCoder 21:48 Jordach 21:49 Vazon OldCoder, if you want you can shutdown mine till i get this fixed 21:51 VanessaE heh 21:52 VanessaE I step away for several minutes and I need not worry, Jordach has it all covered :) 21:52 Jordach clearly me and VanessaE appear to have the same mineset according to FB analysis 21:52 VanessaE yeah. scary 21:52 VanessaE what's worse is kaeza and I are nearly identical ;) 21:54 sapier everyone please test latest android build, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389 there are no know critical issues left, if noone does find any that's what's more or less what's gonna be our first official android version 21:59 Vazon i just ripped apart the mods and are trying to pin point the exact mod that is causing the problem 22:00 SylvieLorxu sapier: No source code? :( 22:01 SylvieLorxu >Devices with only 512MB ram may crash due to out of memory 22:01 SylvieLorxu Oh, I only have 270MB, heh... 22:01 sapier source code is on github 22:01 SylvieLorxu Ah, cool 22:01 SylvieLorxu Would be cool to see this in F-Droid once 22:01 sapier if you're not trying to go to vanessae's servers 270 mb will most likely be ok too 22:02 Jordach sapier, i'm going to be breaking minetest 22:02 sapier especially avoid servers with hires textures or signs mod 22:02 Jordach 4182mb of VRAM vs HDX512 w/ Normal Maps 22:02 sapier lol 22:03 Jordach sapier, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ynUXoee_n6Yp.png 22:03 sapier github source code is even slightly more advanced as I did some improvements for a7v-hard build mode and ogles2 lately 22:04 sapier hmm I suggest adding my recent performance fixes branch uppon latest minetest master maybe you'll get a success 22:21 Vazon ok i think i fixed it, can someone try and join Minerealms Mapgen v7 22:23 OldCoder Vazon, what did you change? 22:25 Vazon OldCoder i was going threw all of my test worlds and i relized i messed up when testing the ambence mod i just used that mod, but didnt test it with my other mods so i removed it and i think its fixed. I no longer stop on media it used to take me about 10 sec with and now it takes less than 2 to get threw media. i just need to see if it fixed the timing out 22:26 Vazon wb kaeza 22:26 * Jordach purrs at kaeza 22:26 kaeza o/ 22:27 VanessaE Jordach: well? report! :) 22:27 Jordach VanessaE, still clonin 22:27 VanessaE oh ok 22:27 VanessaE waiting to see if HDX melts your APU :) 22:27 Jordach now this is when it doesn 22:27 VanessaE greets kaeza 22:27 Jordach t* 22:29 EvergreenTree VanessaE: I'm going to try it too 22:29 OldCoder Vazon, so you no longer advise to remove the guest or whatever mod? 22:29 EvergreenTree it will probably melt my gpu though. :P 22:30 Vazon no i was over looking it 22:35 Jordach VanessaE, we be extracting 22:36 Jordach preparing doom in eta 1 minute 22:36 VanessaE extracting? O_o 22:36 VanessaE you grabbed the zip? 22:37 Jordach GO GOGOGOGOGO 22:37 Jordach [off] joined as my secret admin account, BOFH 22:38 VanessaE well? :) 22:39 Jordach still going 22:39 Jordach going through item textures 22:39 VanessaE someone get Jordach a roll of paper towels 22:39 VanessaE he's gonna need 'em 22:39 Jordach 657.6mb ram used by Minetest 22:40 Jordach 773.3mb 22:40 VanessaE heh 22:40 Jordach nearly finished extruding 22:40 Jordach pushing system fans to 100% 22:40 VanessaE warning: it'll get real G*d damn slow the first time you dig dirt and get mushroom spores. 22:41 VanessaE as in, there will be a 20-30 second hang 22:41 Jordach i forgot to apply HDX 22:41 VanessaE wat 22:42 Jordach and i didn#'t have a media cache 22:42 VanessaE Jordach: here, you need this: 22:42 Jordach i've already downloaded the media 22:42 Jordach 2GB used 22:42 Jordach 4gb 22:42 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/y3vYQGNJ 22:43 VanessaE Apply this. it'll disable the extrude code. 22:43 VanessaE you'll probably get up to around 12 GB of RAM used before it either finishes or craps out 22:46 Jordach >windows 22:46 Jordach still alive 22:47 Jordach we're onto item textures 22:48 Jordach and we're at 4gb of ram 22:48 Jordach NOT climbing 22:48 VanessaE Jordach: why are you preloading item visuals? 22:48 Jordach because fuck it - why not 22:49 VanessaE well if you wanna wait 4 minutes for each sign-on instead of ~15 seconds :P 22:49 Jordach VanessaE, i'd rather not waste a year waiting for formspecs 22:50 VanessaE heh 22:50 Jordach my APU is reporting 41C 22:51 Jordach 4GB and climbing 22:52 VanessaE 41 is good 22:52 VanessaE 4GB is average. 22:52 Jordach >Minetest [Main Menu] (Not responding) 22:52 Jordach the window is visibly still working 22:53 VanessaE heh 22:53 Jordach A song of swap space and RAM 22:53 VanessaE heh 22:53 VanessaE how much you up to now? 22:53 VanessaE in total 22:53 Jordach 4,200MB 22:57 Jordach *turns of preload* 22:58 Jordach 5.5GB 22:59 Jordach i'm in! 23:00 Jordach avg fps: 15 23:01 Jordach VanessaE, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/3bec5wiK1Tp7.png 23:02 Jordach dead after attempting to fullscreen it 23:03 Jordach going to try again 23:04 Jordach minus the fullscreening 23:04 VanessaE heh 23:04 VanessaE how much RAM did it take? 23:05 Jordach task manager is visible 23:05 VanessaE oh yeah 23:05 VanessaE so it is 23:05 VanessaE 5.2 GB 23:05 VanessaE sounds about right 23:05 VanessaE use the 256px size 23:05 VanessaE it works fine with the 512px normalmaps 23:05 VanessaE (you can use any size of normalmaps with any size of texture files - mix and match) 23:06 Jordach if it jumps from 300mb to 5gb 23:06 Jordach then you've managed to login 23:08 Jordach 10 FPS 23:08 Jordach deal with it 23:08 Jordach 30 just a few meters from spawn 23:09 EvergreenTree I got about that with a lag spike every time I loaded a chunk 23:09 EvergreenTree and I have only 4gb of ram 23:09 EvergreenTree and 2gb of vram 23:09 EvergreenTree I'll see how I do minus the normalmaps 23:09 Jordach -95, 15, -477 = 30fps for me 23:09 Jordach i am pushing nearly 6GB 23:10 Jordach going to full screen 23:11 EvergreenTree I'd like to see someone with a better ccomputer than mine do the same thing 23:11 Jordach IT LIVED 23:11 Mallot1 i would if i could 23:11 EvergreenTree I'm sure a modern gaming machine would handle it pretty well 23:11 Taoki https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9240#p145362 Posted an update to my creatures mod. Might find it interesting if anyone's a fan of mobs 23:12 Taoki Pretty much, I managed to achieve a nice and intelligent AI in SimpleMobs, while I doubt I made it any more bloated or resource costly 23:12 Mallot1 well done man! thats my favorite mobs mod :D 23:13 Jordach VanessaE, WINNING https://cdn.mediacru.sh/r-ZACzyRYHJq.png 23:13 Jordach YOUR SHITTY GPU CANNOT BEAT MY APU 23:14 Jordach now concede that windows is superior to your Linux kernel 23:15 EvergreenTree Eh Jordach, windows doesn't have any affect on performace 23:15 EvergreenTree (not that I know of anyway) 23:15 Jordach EvergreenTree, explain why it survived 23:15 EvergreenTree Jordach, she just doesn't have as good hardware 23:16 Jordach she has a HEXCORE 23:16 Jordach and more ram 23:16 EvergreenTree but what about the gpu? 23:16 Mallot1 and windows 8.1 is the good stuff 23:17 Jordach EvergreenTree, unknown 23:18 VanessaE and a really crappy GPU by comparison. 23:18 Jordach EvergreenTree, APUs are UNDERlocked compared to an actual GPU 23:18 VanessaE HD6870, 1GB. 23:18 Jordach clocked* 23:18 VanessaE ok, smartass. 23:18 VanessaE I'll try it. 23:18 Jordach it's to prevent overheating 23:18 Jordach i've actually had the chip to 85 centigrade 23:19 Jordach fail 23:20 indoors we 23:20 indoors *:) 23:21 VanessaE 6GB 23:21 VanessaE 7GB 23:21 VanessaE 8GB 23:21 Jordach CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH 23:21 VanessaE 9.6 GB 23:21 VanessaE 10GB 23:21 Jordach so i hear you like your shitty Linux 23:22 Jordach with apparently bad memory issues :3 23:22 KB windows is better D 23:22 KB *xD 23:22 Jordach i'm using half that ram and getting playable FPSS 23:22 Guest31646 windows 8.1 23:23 Guest31646 who here loves Windows 8.1? say I 23:26 Jordach !tell sapier https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=145363#p145363 23:26 MinetestBot Jordach: yeah, sure, whatever 23:26 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 23:26 Jordach Vanessa just crashed D: 23:28 Sokomine which file was the relevant one for overriding minetest.conf values for individual worlds? 23:29 Sokomine jordach: what happened to your server? havn't seen it again :-( 23:29 Jordach Sokomine, since my AMD drivers went up de nile (kernel updates = dead drivers) 23:29 Jordach i had to resume Windows 8 23:29 Sokomine jordach: sounds strange 23:30 Jordach Sokomine, are the smaller streams that form the Nile River Juveniles? 23:34 Sokomine jordach: aeh...some playing with language? 23:34 Vazon Sokomina 23:34 Vazon Sokomine* 23:34 Sokomine hi vazon 23:35 VanessaE talk about a crash. 23:35 Vazon Hi, can you run a test for me Soko? 23:35 VanessaE I had to hard-power-off the machine to get up off of THAT one. 23:35 Jordach VanessaE, so clearly windows wins again 23:36 Jordach wtf is inside my desktop 23:36 VanessaE Jordach: no, so clearly there's a really BAD memory leak in Linux builds. 23:36 VanessaE 10GB versus 5? 23:36 VanessaE however, that Linux crashed when it ran out of memory instead of just killing the offending process is a bad mark for Linux, I'll agree with you there. 23:37 Exio4 do you have swap? 23:38 Sokomine vazon: can you tell me more about what kind of test you have in mind? 23:38 Exio4 if yes, how much? what is your swapiness? 23:38 Sokomine vanessae: bad 23:38 VanessaE Exio4: 16GB of RAM, and no swap. 23:38 Exio4 no swap 23:38 Exio4 exactly 23:38 VanessaE why the hell should I need swap with that much RAM??? 23:38 Exio4 who the fuck will use ZERO SWAP 23:39 Vazon Sokomine: I have started a paramat v7 mapgen server but im also using it to see if i can fix the media hang ups, can you log in and tell me if it is still getting stuck? 23:39 Sokomine there used to be issues where "no swap" did confuse linux - it ran better if there was a physikal swap drive, even though it did not make much sense 23:39 Exio4 no swap means if no memory is left, lets kill someone 23:39 Exio4 OOM 23:39 Exio4 out of memory 23:40 Sokomine vazon: hm. i may try, but i usually don't run into media hangups due to a well-filled cache. i join so many servers that almost every image is in my cache by now 23:40 VanessaE Exio4: yeah, so how about we kill the thing that sent the machine off into la-la land? 23:40 Exio4 killing something means the kernel says "fuck you" and kills whatever it finds worth killing 23:40 Exio4 that thing wouldn't have crashed your machine if you had some swap 23:40 Vazon o lol 23:40 Exio4 even if it was just 4gb 23:40 VanessaE Exio4: let me reiterate. sixteen gigs of RAM. 23:41 VanessaE that's a metric fuckload., 23:41 Exio4 yeah, i have 12gb and i love swap because i sometimes fuck up with VMs and end using 20 gb of ram 23:41 VanessaE I shouldn't need swap at all. 23:41 Exio4 it ain't a fuckload 23:41 * Jordach hands VanessaE a phat one 23:41 Jordach chill out 23:41 Exio4 the swap is freaking nice hey 23:41 Exio4 why people say swap is bad 23:42 Exio4 did a bug called swap bite you as child? seriously, swap means the system will free your FAST ram of crap and let the system have more cache there 23:42 Exio4 and it also means in the worst case of something leaking memory, the system won't kill anything "pseudo-random" 23:43 Exio4 i've never crashed my system by overusing memory, and i have a lot of ram hey! 23:44 VanessaE fine 23:44 * VanessaE turns on 16GB of swap 23:44 VanessaE hm 23:44 * VanessaE doesn't 23:44 Jordach VanessaE, so if i try to break minetest with something that should kill it, yet it doesn't die; why is that 23:45 Exio4 what happened tho? 23:45 VanessaE Jordach: I'd tend to blame the OS actually. 23:45 VanessaE Exio4: nowhere sane to put it. 23:45 Jordach VanessaE, i can get similar results on my old Acer desktop 23:45 Jordach with 128x 23:45 VanessaE Exio4: only 4.6G free in /, 22 free in /home, 384 on /storage (and that's spinning rust) 23:46 Jordach VanessaE, protip: wondered why Quassel and crew were only using ~20mb of ram? 23:46 Exio4 where you going to put swap in your SSD? poor disk 23:46 VanessaE Exio4: modern SSD, swap won't kill it 23:46 Jordach windows was hotswapping them between cache and swap 23:47 Exio4 VanessaE: how did you make your system OOM though? 23:47 VanessaE Exio4: one of the big sites like anandtech or tomshardware or some such, just did this test with modern SSDs, found that they'll all go way WAY beyond their rating now, as in hundreds of terabytes. 23:47 VanessaE Exio4: um, weren't you watching? Minetest + HDX 512 + my creative server. 23:47 Jordach VanessaE, i used survival 23:47 Exio4 but just that? 23:47 Exio4 oh, preloading item visuals 23:47 Exio4 i see 23:47 Exio4 didn't read that part 23:47 VanessaE Exio4: no, no preload. 23:48 Exio4 what?! 23:48 VanessaE you heard me. 23:48 Exio4 Jordach: how much is your system using with HDX-256? 23:48 VanessaE Minetest has a major memory leak when built on Linux. 23:49 Exio4 how much is the download from git of https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512? 1gb? 23:49 Mallot1 hi 23:49 VanessaE Exio4: about 1.1GB if you clone it. 23:49 Mallot1 :) 23:49 Exio4 (cuz i would like to make an estimate of the download) 23:49 Jordach Exio4, 412mb via zipball 23:49 VanessaE Exio4: the actual textures ...yeah 23:49 VanessaE what Jordach saoid 23:49 VanessaE said* 23:50 * Mallot1 goes back to working on iOS app 23:50 * Mallot1 is AFC 23:50 Exio4 ok, so i'll download the .zip :D 23:50 Exio4 1gb is way too much for my ~ 23:50 Jordach normals is 725mb 23:50 VanessaE Mallot1: go away with your iOS stuff G*d damn it 23:50 Mallot1 :| 23:50 Jordach VanessaE, i like iOS for one thing: playing my goddamn music libraryu 23:50 Jordach -u 23:50 Mallot1 well that was un called for 23:51 * Mallot1 is AFC 23:51 VanessaE Mallot1: you wanna develop an iOS port of Minetest, great! 23:51 VanessaE otherwise stop talking about it here 23:51 Exio4 one hour and 50 minute 23:51 Exio4 s 23:51 Exio4 shit 23:51 Jordach >No unauthorised advertising / bots 23:51 Jordach someone didn't read the fuckin topic as usual :3 23:51 VanessaE Jordach: HDX256: 23:51 VanessaE 7237 vanessa 20 0 6582532 5.609g 60480 D 107.1 35.8 2:00.51 minetest 23:52 Jordach VanessaE, filter out the git change fikles 23:52 Exio4 what about hdx-128? (the only i have downloaded) 23:52 * Mallot1 is not averting he is just enjoying the life that has been deprived from many of you 23:52 Jordach that's why it's so fuckin large :P 23:52 * Mallot1 is AFC 23:52 Exio4 you're being an asshole Mallot1 23:52 Mallot1 im not VanesaE is to me i just said see ya :| bye 23:52 VanessaE *sich* 23:53 VanessaE *sigh* 23:53 VanessaE Jordach: I have no control over how big the github ZIP is or what is included in it. 23:53 VanessaE it's always the whole repo as far as I know. 23:53 Jordach VanessaE, the zip never contains anything but the original files, no git logs 23:53 Jordach afaik* 23:54 VanessaE the releases on the forum page are, however, stripped of all the git history, but they're also not full copies, they're e.g. "default stuff only" or customized for certain games. 23:56 Exio4 i want better cooling :( 23:57 wowsuphey Exio4; buy a fan 23:57 wowsuphey :) 23:57 Exio4 yeah, sure, give me money 23:57 VanessaE Jordach: oh yeah? 23:58 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/eRIPK :3 23:59 Exio4 20:58:55: ACTION[main]: Client: Contacting remote server "http://192.99.11.10/creative-survival-media/" 23:59 Exio4 192.99 o.O