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00:36 Piggybear87 asl, Vazon, WTH>
00:36 Piggybear87 ?*
00:36 asl Vazon & OldCoder: server quit
00:37 OldCoder Hi
00:37 OldCoder Checking
00:37 asl what happen this time?  not my fault again is it?
00:37 OldCoder wait
00:37 OldCoder which server
00:38 asl landrush
00:38 OldCoder asl, busy teaching
00:38 OldCoder kk om
00:38 OldCoder bad argument #4 to 'get_objects_inside_radius' (number expected, got nil)
00:39 OldCoder andrush_game/mods/pipework​s/item_transport.lua:485: in function 'callback'
00:39 OldCoder mesecons_mvps/init.lua:38: in function 'on_mvps_move'
00:39 OldCoder asl, Piggybear87, Vazon see error above
00:40 Piggybear87 I'm not using the pipes atm.
00:40 OldCoder Those messages were the crash
00:46 asl pipeworks on landrush is outdated
00:46 asl https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/commi​t/fd3c88eb861eac35760ebcb27c9519097aa9f176#​diff-72f6f2a49898625bce20699a7f8b838fL481
00:47 asl i guess the only way to fix it is to update the pipeworks
00:48 asl OldCoder ^
00:49 Piggybear87 asl, is there ANYTHING that can stop the movestone? Everything keeps getting pushed and it pops off of the tracks.
00:49 asl i don't think so, just lesser the mesecon i guess
00:50 Piggybear87 Then it will pop off one earlier. Lol. Why make something like that and not make it be able to stop in time?
00:52 Piggybear87 It crashed again. Oh well, I need to work on mine anyway.
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00:53 asl OldCoder: think you can just update the pipeworks mod on landrush? it might fix the problem
00:54 Piggybear87 OldCoder, is a teacher? What does he teach?
00:57 asl it seem my pipeworks is also outdated :/
00:57 OldCoder asl, sure but I am only here to chat lightly right now. I am teaching webdev in Sacramento presently.
00:58 OldCoder Piggybear87, ^
00:58 OldCoder I am mostly unemployed but I do occasionally teach or tutor
00:58 OldCoder I did No Child Left Behind a couple of months ago
00:59 Vazon mhmm
01:01 Vazon maby update pipe works that is the only thing i ca nthink of
01:05 Piggybear87 Web development, nice. An old co-worker of mine did that in his spare time and made almost a grand a week (outside of normal work). I told him I wish I made that kind of money, and he said to learn how to code... ANYTHING, coding is in high demand.
01:07 Piggybear87 I'm going to disable some parts that I can figure out how to from pipeworks. I don't need the water parts, only the clear pipes for technic.
01:09 Megaf It's so weird to see a Megaf that is not me
01:10 Piggybear87 Is anyone on here going to use my server when I launch?
01:10 Piggybear87 It's OK if no, I just need a head count and need opinions.
01:11 asl idk, really depend on the mod
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01:14 Piggybear87 That's the opinions I need. What would you like to see in a server? (Remember that I have an older comp...)
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01:16 Megaf kaeza; whos the admin?
01:16 Megaf that "Megaf" is telling people is the real Megaf
01:16 Megaf lol
01:28 kaeza Megaf, Nate
01:28 Megaf kaeza; do you know that IRC server?
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01:31 kaeza Megaf, connect to chat.inchra.net and join #minetest
01:32 kaeza if that does not work, try digitalaudioconcepts.com
01:35 Piggybear87 asl, The server hates you dude...
01:35 asl i know
01:36 Piggybear87 Lol. Vazon can you get debug.txt's from the server?
01:36 asl i reproduce it alreadt
01:36 asl already*
01:36 Piggybear87 What is it?
01:36 asl https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/69
01:37 asl https://github.com/Jeija/mine​test-mod-mesecons/issues/164
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01:38 Vazon mhmm
01:38 Vazon i just think update pipeworks
01:39 Piggybear87 asl, What are you near to make it crash when you logon?
01:39 asl my shop testing the semi-auto harvester
01:40 Piggybear87 My movestone wasn't crashing it though.
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01:40 Piggybear87 Where is your shop?
01:40 asl join landrush and type /whereis asl97
01:41 Piggybear87 OK.
01:41 asl you can get there using the airport at spawn 1
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02:12 Megaf movestone do crash server
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02:16 asl movestone are buggy :/
02:19 ShadowNinja kaeza: irc.inchra.net*
02:21 kaeza oops
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03:00 Piggybear87 asl, Sorry about that...
03:00 asl lol
03:22 Vazon Piggybear87 are people still timing out?
03:22 Piggybear87 No.
03:22 Vazon mhm maby your crash fixed it
03:23 Vazon let me restart mine
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03:39 Vazon mhm didn't work
03:55 Megaf Who owns the MRC Server?
04:00 Vazon MRC?
04:05 Megaf yep
04:05 Megaf there's a fake Megaf there
04:05 Megaf someone is using my name on several servers
04:11 Vazon they used my name as well,
04:11 Megaf Vazon; Whats the shield recipe?
04:11 Megaf on 3d armor
04:14 Megaf anyone?
04:16 Vazon shield recipe
04:17 Vazon is x,x,x
04:17 Vazon x,x,x
04:17 Vazon o,x,o
04:17 Megaf Thanks Vazon, I got it
04:18 Vazon your welcome
04:18 Megaf I was using a stick, that was the problem
04:18 Vazon lol
04:18 Vazon ShadowNinja
04:19 Megaf so, I see there room for one more item
04:19 Megaf on 3D armor,
04:19 Megaf what item is that?
04:19 Vazon yes he is adding capes maby later on
04:32 Vazon is it possible to make it where areas no longer protect inventorys?
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04:33 Piggybear87 God dammit son of a bitch!
04:33 Piggybear87 Why does Minetest lock up my computer???
04:33 asl lol
04:34 VanessaE bad OS, Piggybear87
04:34 VanessaE a userland app can't lock up your PC unless your OS is broken.
04:34 Piggybear87 It totally froze. I couldn't even move the mouse...
04:35 Piggybear87 Brand new Lubuntu install. I downloaded and burned 2 days ago.
04:35 Piggybear87 I checked the disk for errors also.
04:35 VanessaE then I would have to suggest a hardware fault. :(
04:35 VanessaE didn't you try to install a GPU the other day?
04:35 VanessaE (which failed)
04:36 Piggybear87 Maybe that I only have 786Mb of ram...
04:36 VanessaE well that's not a LOT, but that shouldn't cause a lock-up
04:36 Piggybear87 I installed it and it's fine now (in recovery mode)...
04:36 VanessaE however,
04:36 VanessaE 768MB is an uncommon size
04:36 VanessaE what should you have?
04:36 Piggybear87 It's a 512 and 256.
04:36 VanessaE that's a strange combination.
04:36 VanessaE how long have you used it like that?
04:37 Piggybear87 It's all I had laying around, and since I built this. It had 2, 512's in it but one was bad.
04:37 VanessaE take the 256 out and see how it behaves.
04:37 Vazon VanessaE: do you have any idea for my question?
04:37 VanessaE Vazon: *scrolls back* ..  um..   not really, no
04:38 Piggybear87 I can run on 512... This thing lags already...
04:38 VanessaE Piggybear87: do it anyway
04:38 VanessaE see how it behaves
04:38 Vazon because my players are trrying to make a public technic but areas istn letting that happen
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04:38 VanessaE if it's stable, either the 256 is also bad, or more likely your motherboard doesn't like running two different sizes - a lot of motherboards hate that
04:38 Vazon maby like /area_openinv ?
04:39 VanessaE Vazon: afaik areas mod doesn't normally do that anymore though.
04:39 * VanessaE pokes ShadowNinja
04:39 VanessaE ask him :)
04:39 Piggybear87 I'm going to bed in a bit, so I will do it before I boot up in the morning. And yeah, I got an error saying "mis-matched ram blah blah"
04:39 Vazon well it would be nice to have for this reason
04:39 VanessaE Piggybear87: then you already know the issue.
04:39 VanessaE lose the 256.
04:40 VanessaE better you should pick up a couple of cheap 1GB sticks when you get a chance next.
04:40 VanessaE (make sure they're compatible with your mobo of course)
04:40 Piggybear87 It's a max of 1 gig it says online..
04:40 VanessaE old board.
04:40 Piggybear87 Very.
04:40 VanessaE but ok
04:41 VanessaE go with 512 and add some swap if you have to
04:41 VanessaE until you can put another 512 in there
04:41 Piggybear87 Add some swap?
04:41 VanessaE mmhmm
04:41 Piggybear87 What does that mean?
04:41 VanessaE when you install an OS, you can configure a portion of your hard drive to act as virtual memory
04:41 VanessaE we call it swap in the linux/unix world
04:42 Vazon im worried about the The Sentinel Empire server, they are making things like minecraft, they have changed chat to be like minecraft abd was going
04:42 VanessaE in windows, it's called a page file
04:42 Piggybear87 Oh, like a Windows page file?
04:42 Piggybear87 Yeah.
04:42 Vazon to change it where palyers had to install the mods they have just ot playe and stuff like that
04:42 VanessaE same concept
04:42 VanessaE you can either add a swap file now, or you can re-install, re-partition the disk and add one then
04:42 VanessaE either way works
04:42 Piggybear87 So I would have to reinstall and lose everything again?
04:42 VanessaE it's a matter of personal preference.
04:43 VanessaE if you add a swap file now, you lose nothing
04:43 VanessaE but it's ever so slightly slower than having it in a separate partition, or so I understand.
04:44 Piggybear87 Wouldn't suppose you would wanna do a how-to, would you?
04:44 VanessaE as root, you would do something like:   dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swapfile bs=1048576 count=1024     and then edit your /etc/fstab to point to it.
04:45 VanessaE (the above command will create a 1GB swap named /var/swapfile )
04:45 VanessaE then you edit your /etc/fstab to point to it, and as root,   mkswap /var/swapfile   to initialize it.
04:45 VanessaE then, as root,   swapon -a
04:46 VanessaE (normally when you install Linux, it offers these options to you, and even warns you if you skip adding swap)
04:47 VanessaE when you point /etc/fstab to it, all you have to do is add a line like this, to the file:
04:47 VanessaE /dev/xxxxx       none    swap    sw      0       0
04:48 VanessaE (replace /dev/xxxxxx with /var/swapfile --- normally it would be /dev/sda2 or some such)
04:48 VanessaE clear as mud? :D
04:48 Piggybear87 Just make a /txt file, or...?
04:48 Piggybear87 .*
04:48 VanessaE nope
04:49 VanessaE ok, one step at a time...
04:49 VanessaE step 1:
04:49 Piggybear87 I did the first part.
04:49 VanessaE ls -la /var/swapfile
04:49 VanessaE does it look right?
04:50 Piggybear87 piggybear87@piggybear87-pc:~$ sudo ls -la /var/swapfile
04:50 Piggybear87 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1073741824 Jun  8 00:46 /var/swapfile
04:50 VanessaE yup
04:50 VanessaE that's good
04:50 VanessaE ok
04:50 Piggybear87 Ok.
04:50 VanessaE mkswap /var/swapfile
04:50 VanessaE this initializes the file so it can actually be used as swap
04:51 Piggybear87 OK, done.
04:51 VanessaE now still as root, open your /etc/fstab in an editor like nano or whatever is convenient=
04:52 VanessaE is there anything already in there regarding swap, that isn't commented out?
04:53 VanessaE (sometimes there will be examples left behind, depends on the installer)
04:53 Piggybear87 Gonna pm so I don't have to pastebin
04:54 VanessaE ok.
04:54 VanessaE ok, looks like you already have swap
04:55 VanessaE so just rm /var/swapfile
04:55 VanessaE that was a waste of time :)
04:55 VanessaE close /etc/fstab
04:55 VanessaE you don't need to change it
04:55 VanessaE just yank that 256 and set it aside.
04:56 VanessaE you're gonna have to figure out how to get by on 512 until you can get a matching stick
04:56 Piggybear87 So that will be like a page file now?
04:56 VanessaE you already have it, yeah
04:56 VanessaE get rid of that /var/swapfile, you don't need it.
04:57 VanessaE your machine will use the swap partition that the installer created.
04:57 Piggybear87 That's the rm thing right?
04:57 VanessaE yeah
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04:57 Piggybear87 Ok, I'm done then.
04:57 VanessaE ok
04:57 Piggybear87 Sorry for wasting your time.
04:57 VanessaE it's okay
04:57 VanessaE for now you'll just have to run less stuff and do less at one time with what you do run
04:58 VanessaE treat your PC like a tablet
04:58 Piggybear87 :) Ok, 1:00. It's time for bed.
04:58 VanessaE your machine proba
04:58 VanessaE ok, night
04:58 Piggybear87 Good night all.
04:58 VanessaE (I was gonna say his machine probably wandered off into swap due to some heavy-RAM-using app or too many of them anyway, and he thought it was a lock-up)
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05:12 asl VanessaE minetest does lock-up my computer too, it's is a memory hog, was using over 1 gb before it lock-up, i think it might be a memory leak
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06:19 Vazon Hi MIner_48er
06:19 Miner_48er hi
06:23 Vazon Miner the server is public, but people keep timing out and i cant figure out why
06:27 Vazon Miner_48er: ^^
06:29 Miner_48er ok
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06:31 Vazon you have any idea what would cause this?
06:34 Miner_48er !up oldcoder.org:30012
06:34 MinetestBot Miner_48er: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
06:34 Miner_48er !up oldcoder.org 30012
06:34 MinetestBot oldcoder.org:30012 is up (657ms)
06:36 Vazon its up im on it and so is another person, only 4 people including me have joined successfully
06:36 Miner_48er !up oldcoder.org:30012
06:36 MinetestBot Miner_48er: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
06:36 Miner_48er !up oldcoder.org 30012
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06:39 Miner_48er ping is a bit higher than average
06:39 phantombeta joined #minetest
06:39 Vazon we arent lagging at all tho
06:40 Krock hi
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06:41 Vazon Ello Krock
06:41 Krock morning :)
06:41 Vazon morning?? its 2:41 am here lol
06:42 Krock 08:41
06:42 Krock damn late
06:42 unclouded hi.  are there any admins around for mtzeno?
06:42 Krock go bed, vazon :P
06:42 Krock unclouded, what's mtzeno?
06:42 Vazon but then i will leave you Krock xD
06:42 unclouded mtzeno.com.  sry that's the hostname
06:43 Krock Vazon, you aren't a kitten which sticks on my foot
06:43 Krock unclouded, for servers, join irc.inchra.net #minetest
06:43 Vazon Krock, I can be :)
06:43 unclouded Krock: cheers
06:44 * Krock barks at Vazon
06:45 * Vazon hisses back, then prr's at Krocks leg
06:48 Vazon Miner_48er could it becuase we have alot of blocks, that its taking to long forthe players to load and they give up?
06:49 * Krock found the 150KB file again, with a rating of 4.5/5 stars
06:49 Miner_48er possibility
06:50 Vazon because i have added alot of our blocks to the moreblocks mod.
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06:50 Hirato doesn't minetest cache stuff, so only the fire connection takes a while?
06:53 * Krock found an amazing feature "Show windows version on desktop"
06:53 Krock Hirato, fire? no. first.
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07:48 nman3600 hi
07:49 raffahacks joined #minetest
07:50 raffahacks hi
07:51 raffahacks why does minetest crash on opening on an armv7 a20 device?
07:52 Krock #minetest-dev
07:52 Krock ask sapier
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07:53 raffahacks thanks
07:53 Krock np
07:54 zsoltisaw hiya raffahacks
07:54 raffahacks hi!
07:54 Krock zsolisnotaw: hi
07:54 nman3600 i'm on #multitest if you have suggestions for it (even though it's had no feedback since i updated)
07:54 zsoltisaw /me finds this client dumb
07:54 Krock ntalk ftw
07:55 zsoltisaw ntalk isn't on iOS...
07:55 Krock windows ftw
07:56 zsoltisaw joined #minetest
07:57 raffahacks zsolti?
07:58 nman3600 is dead
07:58 raffahacks Krock: nobody in minetest-dev. 50 dead people
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07:59 Krock raffahacks, shout at them or wait until they get awake
08:01 raffahacks will wait
08:01 raffahacks hi PenguinDad !
08:07 PenguinDad Hello everypony!
08:09 nman3600 hey non brony
08:10 raffahacks how to set the status in irc (with *)?
08:10 raffahacks Krock: they're still sleeping!
08:11 Krock raffahacks, devs need much sleep after much coding
08:11 raffahacks then sapier isn't there
08:14 raffahacks if i quote to Cele*on55? is that for him annoying?
08:15 Amaz Maybe ShadowNinj* or Sfan% could help?
08:15 raffahacks Amaz: it was to avoid to quote him
08:16 raffahacks thanks
08:16 sfan5 meow
08:16 raffahacks hi sfan! thanks for answer
08:17 Amaz Yep. That's why I did it as well.
08:17 * nman3600 strokes sfan5 and then hands sfan5 a bowl of milk
08:18 raffahacks lol
08:18 * sfan5 meows at nman3600
08:18 raffahacks nman3600: how did you write that (with *)?
08:18 nman3600 do /me (message)
08:19 nman3600 i'm using pc i don't know about you
08:19 raffahacks sfan5: i am following you on twitter
08:19 sfan5 that's nice
08:20 * raffahacks does nothing
08:20 raffahacks do you like manga sfan5?
08:20 * nman3600 tells sfan5 to not bite raffahacks
08:20 sfan5 raffahacks: yes
08:21 raffahacks did you see me in your followers?
08:21 * nman3600 bites raffahacks
08:21 sfan5 yes
08:21 nman3600 nomnomnom tasty hand
08:22 * raffahacks bites nman3600 too
08:22 * nman3600 sends raffahacks to his/her room for being naughty
08:24 * PenguinDad throws a random image in the chat http://powell.chaos-bodensee.de/w​p-content/uploads/nomnompingu.png
08:27 * raffahacks can't see anything
08:29 raffahacks sfan5: do you like my cat?
08:29 sfan5 it looks fluffy
08:29 sfan5 yes
08:29 sfan5 I am a cat, meow :§
08:30 sfan5 :3
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08:30 * raffahacks gives sfan5 more milk
08:31 * sfan5 purrs
08:33 * nman3600 watches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q       over and over and over again
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08:34 PenguinDad !title
08:34 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom - Parry Gripp - YouTube
08:34 OldCoder Yo
08:35 nman3600 lol
08:37 nman3600 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2F4EFYM_MA&​amp;list=TLOxGPJ5FdoVIb_HR2bUKMDDgiPGK-ulNK       ahh so cute
08:38 nman3600 !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2F4EFYM_MA&​amp;list=TLOxGPJ5FdoVIb_HR2bUKMDDgiPGK-ulNK
08:38 nman3600 fail
08:38 nman3600 !title
08:38 MinetestBot nman3600: Fuzzy Fuzzy Cute Cute - Parry Gripp - YouTube
08:38 MinetestBot nman3600: Fuzzy Fuzzy Cute Cute - Parry Gripp - YouTube
08:38 nman3600 lol
08:38 nman3600 nevermind
08:39 * Krock meows at sfan5
08:40 * sfan5 meows at Krock
08:40 Krock How to detect if a variable is a table?
08:41 sfan5 type(var) == 'table'
08:41 Krock ty
08:41 nman3600 question? what type of music does everyone like?
08:41 nman3600 just wondering
08:42 Krock *beatels music*
08:42 nman3600 rock and techno (dubstep, EDM drumstep and all that)
08:43 nman3600 sfan5: what music do you like?
08:43 sfan5 https://soundcloud.com/sfan5/likes
08:44 PenguinDad nman3600: dubstep, hardstyle, moombahton, moombahcore and some other things
08:44 nman3600 sfan5 you're a monstercat fan nice!
08:44 nman3600 PenguinDad me too
08:44 nman3600 sfan5 you like veela beats?
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08:45 sfan5 I guess so
08:45 sfan5 o/ OldCoder
08:45 nman3600 be back later bye!
08:46 Krock *none says bye*
08:46 OldCoder sfan5, Hi
08:52 Krock sfan5, what the hell am I doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/jSwfFm2v
08:52 Krock AAARG damn this globalvalue
08:52 Krock nvm
08:53 sfan5 Krock: you can omit the nil check, if a var is nil the key does not exists anymore
08:53 Krock sfan5, the fail was at line 6, forgot a local :/ I saw it to late
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09:08 PenguinDad https://dpaste.de/JX3z what does this mean?
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09:19 kaeza it's an URL with protocol 'https', domain 'dpaste.de' and path '/JX3z'
09:20 kaeza <.<
09:20 Krock that means it will be gone in 4 weeks and 1 day
09:21 Krock it also means, those error happened 1 hour before noon
09:23 LemonLake kaeza, Krock, I love it
09:23 Krock you don't even know what we're talking about (except whe you've visited the chat log site=
09:23 Krock *)
09:23 LemonLake I was actually really confused so I checked the logs
09:25 Krock OldCoder, srsly? you *copied* the LR map?
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09:26 Krock PenguinDad, question answered?
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09:28 PenguinDad Krock: I was talking about the content of that paste ¬_¬
09:28 Krock PenguinDad, <Krock>that means it will be gone in 4 weeks and 1 day
09:28 LemonLake PenguinDad: Give more context next time, 'can you tell me what this error means'?
09:28 OldCoder Krock, which map? I didn't copy it. He gave it to me. He is the admin.
09:28 Krock content, isn't it?
09:29 Krock OldCoder, I mean the landrush map - is the original server just down or what happened there?
09:29 OldCoder Krock, Brandon had to shut it down
09:29 OldCoder His daughter missed it
09:29 OldCoder Therefore I have moved him onto one of my systems
09:29 Krock >>had to shut it down<<?
09:30 OldCoder Due to funds and host rules. My copy is the official one now.
09:30 Krock so please rename it, like the original was
09:30 OldCoder Rename it to what?
09:30 OldCoder It is Landrush
09:30 OldCoder That is its name
09:30 * OldCoder is not clear on the request
09:30 Krock old description and display name, just diffrent address
09:31 OldCoder I am not following
09:31 LemonLake What is not to follow?
09:31 Krock playerswould get confused and ask questions otherwise
09:31 OldCoder The display name is presumably still Landrush
09:31 * OldCoder is tired. It is 2:30am. What are people talking about?
09:31 LemonLake Set the description to the old one, too
09:31 * OldCoder is not following
09:31 OldCoder Guys, I have just returned from teaching two hours drive away
09:31 Krock OldCoder, I'll be here in 8hours :P
09:31 LemonLake ø.ø
09:31 OldCoder Explain or I must sleep
09:32 Krock 2nd
09:32 LemonLake Set the description of the server...the one that gets broadcasted to the server list
09:32 Krock ^
09:32 LemonLake to the description that the old server had
09:32 OldCoder Would you please be more specific
09:32 LemonLake You can't get more specific than that
09:32 OldCoder D:
09:32 LemonLake Your server, yes?
09:32 LemonLake Set it's description, the one people see on the server list, to the one of the old server.
09:32 OldCoder Thank you for your kind support of hours of my time to rescue a world on a system that nobody is helping to pay for
09:32 OldCoder I do not wish to be impolite
09:33 OldCoder But you are being neither helpful nor specific
09:33 Krock OldCoder, my request was about to imitate the original 1:1
09:33 Krock minetest.conf, server_description =
09:33 OldCoder Good evening, gentlemen
09:33 Krock good night
09:33 LemonLake cya.
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09:34 EvergreenTree I am back from vacation!
09:34 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix switch from "skybox" to other sky types as triggered by player:set_sky() 1cea2f1b49 2014-06-08T12:33:16+03:00 http://git.io/oiJ_Ow
09:34 OldCoder Krock, LemonLake if you have further vague remarks and no desire to do actual work or pay for the hardware; take it up with the admin.
09:34 OldCoder
09:34 LemonLake Woo! Welcome back, EvergreenTree.
09:34 LemonLake OldCoder, I'm gonna try one more thing.
09:35 Krock OldCoder, ok.
09:35 LemonLake The old server had a description, users would see it, and they'd know what the server was about.
09:35 LemonLake You can change said description in your minetest.conf, find the server_description line.
09:35 * Krock hides
09:35 LemonLake Change it to the same description of the old server.
09:37 LemonLake Do the same thing for server_name.
09:37 LemonLake <OldCoder> I am lying down and will not see messages or reply further. Has it not occurred to you that you have mumbled like six times about "same description" without saying what that *WAS* ?
09:43 Krock dude, he fell asleep
09:43 LemonLake Mhm.
09:43 LemonLake I know.
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09:44 LemonLake yo yo Jordach
09:45 Krock yay! 4/6 player became unknown
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09:49 nman3600 hi
09:49 LemonLake nman3600: I'll see if I can make you your Eren art later, but right now I'm busy.
09:49 nman3600 ok LemonLake :)
09:49 * nman3600 is currently listening to deadmau5
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10:41 * EvergreenTree pokes Jordach for no obvious reason
10:42 * sfan5 meows at EvergreenTree
10:42 EvergreenTree mrowr
10:42 * Krock pees at the green tree
10:42 * Krock does that for no reason
10:43 * LemonLake pokes at a random evergreen tree
10:43 LemonLake this one, to be precise: http://www.bigtrees4u.com/images/evergreen1.jpg
10:44 EvergreenTree Krock: that wasn't very nice
10:45 Krock EvergreenTree, sry. I thought it was a regular tree
10:45 EvergreenTree oh, that's fine then
10:45 * sfan5 taps EvergreenTree
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11:04 Jordach EvergreenTree, !
11:05 LemonLake If there's one thing I hate about school, it's programming in school.
11:05 LemonLake Because we have to use Scratch.
11:05 LemonLake Ugh.
11:05 EvergreenTree Scratch was alright in version 1.4, it is terrible now
11:05 LemonLake I prefer the new version because it has cloning.
11:05 EvergreenTree they used flash.  'nough said
11:05 LemonLake Insanely useful for custom countdown timers and bot creation.
11:06 LemonLake http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/21289212/#player That's what I'm working on. Because I know what I'm doing I have to create something quite complicated.
11:06 LemonLake The code is pretty simple when you think about it, but making it in scratch is just horrible.
11:07 EvergreenTree mhm
11:07 EvergreenTree it is good for just making sketches of games though
11:07 LemonLake Yeah.
11:07 LemonLake And it's good for teaching kids how to program.
11:07 LemonLake I just hate it when I can't make a game in like, C++ or somethin.
11:08 LemonLake Even HTML5 for all I care. Just not scratch.
11:08 EvergreenTree I (think) they were working on an html5 player
11:08 LemonLake I think this is the html5 player
11:09 LemonLake Nope, still flash
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11:55 Krock pingpong
11:56 Jordach pongping
11:59 EvergreenTree poing
12:03 LemonLake pwanga
12:04 PenguinDad http://mawscm.deviantart.com/art/​My-Little-Linux-Fedora-342766945 <3 Fedora as a Pony
12:06 LemonLake The eyes look very strange
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12:16 sfan5 EvergreenTree: http://i.imgur.com/S5aLpZb.jpg
12:17 EvergreenTree daw
12:17 LemonLake OMFG CAT
12:17 LemonLake CAT
12:17 LemonLake that's a nice kitteh
12:17 sfan5 LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/bXZIWWe.jpg
12:17 LemonLake more cat
12:17 LemonLake too much cat
12:18 sfan5 LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/CkgC24b.jpg
12:19 sfan5 EvergreenTree: http://i.imgur.com/iATkdQO.jpg
12:19 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/kA8l8oP.jpg
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12:21 LemonLake sfan5: are these your cats?
12:21 sfan5 nope, it would be crazy to have this many; I don't even have a single one :-( :-(
12:21 LemonLake aww
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12:22 sfan5 LemonLake: http://i.imgur.com/gclt4bT.jpg
12:23 LemonLake sfan5: http://placekitten.com/1920/1080
12:23 LemonLake it stares at ya
12:24 sfan5 meow :3
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12:26 sfan5 Krock: http://i.imgur.com/BIPTRoc.jpg
12:26 Krock *clicks*
12:26 Krock zzleepin
12:26 Krock :D
12:29 Krock sfan5, your kittens?
12:30 sfan5 <sfan5> nope, it would be crazy to have this many; I don't even have a single one :-( :-(
12:30 Krock very sad
12:30 Krock you actually need one
12:31 LemonLake wtf
12:31 LemonLake I just got banned from plug.dj for no reason
12:31 Krock trololo?
12:31 LemonLake I kept getting warnings for no reason, saying that I was spamming them or something
12:31 LemonLake I wasn't doing anything apart from listening to some good tunes.
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12:58 OldCoder LemonLake, good morning. I slept 3 hours. The PM I read from you this AM was not helpful. You are on /ignore for the moment.
12:59 LemonLake OldCoder, you're quite harsh.
12:59 Krock 3 hours... I would go crazy with that short time
12:59 Krock lol
12:59 LemonLake There is no reason to /ignore somebody just because you can't understand them.
13:00 LemonLake Krock, please forward those messages to OldCoder.
13:00 asl hi OldCoder, has the default privs for landrush been fix?
13:00 OldCoder asl, Hi. Let me settle in for a minute or two.
13:00 asl ok
13:00 Krock LemonLake, I'm not sure if he ignored me too and generally - why?
13:01 LemonLake Just do it.
13:01 OldCoder Krock, I rarely ignore people
13:01 LemonLake Before he bans me.
13:01 OldCoder LemonLake is distracting, pushy, and impolite
13:01 OldCoder I need to be able to focus today
13:01 Krock OldCoder, same. Mostly they stop when you don't answer :3
13:01 OldCoder <LemonLake> I think you're being slightly rude now, however I'll let it pass due to the fact that you've just come back and you're really tired. Have a good sleep and we'll see if we can sort it out later.
13:01 OldCoder <LemonLake> Good night.
13:01 OldCoder <LemonLake> P.S. Welcome to IRC. This is the sort of response you're gonna get from EVERY network, EVERY server and EVERY channel.
13:01 LemonLake Krock, please forward my messages.
13:01 OldCoder I was not pleased to wake up and find that, Krock.
13:02 Krock LemonLake, what?
13:02 LemonLake Krock, forward my messages.
13:02 OldCoder My channels are going to be more civil than he suggests. We will move on now. asl refresh my recollection.
13:02 LemonLake <LemonLake> OldCoder, you're quite harsh.<LemonLake> There is no reason to /ignore somebody just because you can't understand them.
13:02 OldCoder asl, scrolling up
13:03 OldCoder asl, ah; you mean, update pipeworks
13:03 OldCoder ?
13:03 Krock LemonLake, I can't understaaaand youuu, it's so lololouuuud
13:03 OldCoder update may break things
13:03 OldCoder Krock, more on-topic please
13:03 asl um no, the pipeworks didn't fix the bug
13:03 Krock k, sir.
13:03 OldCoder asl, summarize problem please
13:03 asl now i am taking about the default privs
13:03 OldCoder asl, I did not see that part; summarize, please
13:04 * Krock hids
13:04 OldCoder hids are for kids :P
13:04 asl new players who join the server only have the shout privs
13:04 OldCoder What default privs would you suggest?
13:04 asl the old landrush give 4 privs to new players
13:04 OldCoder What default privs would you suggest?
13:04 * Krock *hidEs
13:04 OldCoder Kicks are for Krocks
13:04 asl https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6197
13:05 OldCoder asl, I am sort of busy
13:05 asl Default Privs: Shout, Interact, Money, Fast
13:05 OldCoder Ah
13:05 OldCoder What does Brandon say?
13:05 asl that link is prove that it was like that before it move
13:05 OldCoder What does Brandon say?
13:05 OldCoder asl, I used what he gave me
13:05 LemonLake 7IGNORE OLDCODER!*@* ALL
13:05 asl didn't see him online
13:05 LemonLake ah shit
13:05 LemonLake bloody keyboard
13:05 asl so i haven't ask them yet
13:06 OldCoder And I don't recommend default interact except for certain worlds
13:06 OldCoder Ask Brandon about the matter please. Now, has the world been crashing?
13:06 sfan5 LemonLake: it is very obvious that you did that on purpose
13:06 asl the landrush have land protection mod that works
13:06 LemonLake sfan5, what?
13:06 OldCoder I removed intweaks mod
13:06 sfan5 LemonLake: you know what I mean
13:06 asl and brandon is the one who posted the default privs
13:06 OldCoder Did it help with some of the crashes?
13:06 LemonLake what is it with you guys today?
13:06 LemonLake why are you being twats to me? have I done something wrong?
13:06 LemonLake please tell me, I'd like to know
13:07 OldCoder asl, (1) I used what Brandon gave me (2) Ask Brandon about default changes (3) I may not approve default interact
13:07 OldCoder That world had 17,000+ users
13:07 OldCoder A large number of which were random passersby
13:07 LemonLake As far as I recall, I haven't done anything wrong.
13:07 OldCoder asl, thank you for your time and inquiry
13:08 OldCoder Help regarding crashes is required
13:08 OldCoder Right now I am preparing to bring up
13:08 LemonLake I've been trying to help out OldCoder but they've continually been misunderstanding me, and at the end of it they started being bitchy to me in query.
13:08 OldCoder LORD OF THE TEST
13:08 OldCoder The LOTR world
13:08 OldCoder Excuse me while I focus on that
13:08 OldCoder
13:08 fishyWET OldCoder, I'm on if u need me
13:08 OldCoder fishyWET, thank-u
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13:09 LemonLake And now you go all quiet.
13:09 fishyWET can u wait a sec?, there's some changes for travelnet, just replace the travelnet folder that i am uploading currently
13:09 OldCoder fishyWET, it is fine
13:09 OldCoder We will make it a display-only showcase temporarily as with Pripyat
13:10 OldCoder Can update as you wish
13:10 fishyWET right okay
13:10 OldCoder PM me links for whatever you update
13:10 fishyWET yeah sure
13:10 duke Hmm
13:14 fishyWET OldCoder, the download for the travelnet changes, https://www.dropbox.com/s/by​dcgjzyhatjavt/travelnet.zip
13:14 OldCoder fishyWET, kk
13:14 OldCoder Allow a little time
13:14 fishyWET okay sure
13:14 OldCoder But planning to try a run in the next half-hour
13:14 OldCoder or so
13:15 fishyWET okay
13:27 ShadowNinja Vazon: /area_open <ID>  should do that.
13:28 OldCoder fishyWET, is the travelnet ZIP a full replacement for the previous travelnet mod?
13:28 fishyWET yes
13:28 OldCoder I.e. I delete the old folder?
13:28 fishyWET yes just delete the old one
13:32 OldCoder fishyWET, I took your original lottserver ZIP, deleted the game folder, added the 2nd game upload, replaced the travelnet in that
13:32 OldCoder Um
13:32 OldCoder Next time a full update would be easier
13:32 fishyWET right, will do a full update next time
13:33 OldCoder Nobody has seen this but the two of you?
13:33 OldCoder fishyWET, ^
13:34 fishyWET seen what?
13:34 OldCoder The world. There are just the two of you in players.
13:34 fishyWET yeah
13:34 OldCoder The world awaits
13:34 OldCoder Uploading combined ZIP
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13:35 ligeti Hello...
13:35 OldCoder Hello back
13:35 ligeti :)
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13:43 sfan5 meow
13:44 OldCoder meow back
13:44 OldCoder What is the matter? Bored?
13:44 OldCoder fishyWET, you appear to have done a fair amount of work
13:44 fishyWET to what?
13:44 Krock kittenz are never bored
13:45 OldCoder On this project
13:45 OldCoder Very well
13:45 fishyWET i guess so, it started last year
13:46 asl !up minetest.org 30011
13:46 MinetestBot minetest.org:30011 seems to be down
13:46 OldCoder I am restarting
13:46 OldCoder asl ^
13:46 asl oh
13:46 OldCoder I used to announce this
13:46 OldCoder Will do so again if IRC mod is fixed
13:47 OldCoder Then I can announce in-game
13:47 OldCoder fishyWET, explore_map mod is missing
13:48 Amaz Can you edit it out of world.mt please?
13:48 fishyWET ignore that, it was just a mod for loading some areas of the map eariler on
13:48 Amaz I meant to remove it.
13:48 OldCoder kk
13:48 OldCoder sfan5, refresh old coder memories. How do I set up curl media on server side?
13:49 OldCoder BTW I am running luajit now
13:49 OldCoder Hopefully luajit will be a bit of a hit
13:49 OldCoder Amaz, fishyWET spawn seems to be underground?
13:50 Amaz Odd.
13:50 OldCoder Well hang on and you can try it shortly
13:50 Amaz Does the staic_spawnpoint need to be in the same format as player position?
13:50 OldCoder Should be fine either way
13:50 Amaz (i.e. Another 0 after each of the coords?
13:50 OldCoder Wait
13:51 OldCoder static_spawnpoint = 59, 5, -120
13:51 OldCoder Looks fine; wait a bit
13:52 Amaz Okay.
13:52 Amaz That's right.
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13:55 OldCoder Is that a duckie?
13:56 OldCoder And some type of guard
13:56 fishyWET i think it is chicken
13:56 Amaz Chicken and elf maybe?
13:56 OldCoder Amaz, fishyWET go see your world at minetest.org:30020
13:56 fishyWET okay, thanks!
13:57 Amaz Great! Thanks!
13:57 OldCoder default privs are fly fast shout in keeping with display world mode
13:57 OldCoder You can probably drop the large bold warning
13:57 OldCoder on the entry sign
13:57 Amaz Okay.
13:57 OldCoder as you'll only grant interact to those who understand this part
13:57 Amaz Right.
13:58 OldCoder I need to rest a bit. If the world crashes it may restart
13:58 OldCoder Kick the tires and see what works or not
13:58 OldCoder I will be here off and on all day
13:58 Amaz Okay, thanks!
13:58 * OldCoder is resting
13:58 OldCoder o/
13:58 fishyWET right, thanks!
14:00 Megaf VanessaE; to see if he has a swap or not it's just a matter of $ free -m
14:00 OldCoder ShadowNinja, I am resting. But time to make IRC mod work again. Consider whether to host the channels on your network(s). Ask kaeza to stop by and see me.
14:00 OldCoder
14:00 Megaf [01:36:29] <VanessaE> 768MB is an uncommon size
14:00 Megaf That's due some of the memory being used buy the onboard GPU
14:00 Megaf or, because he has like 512 + 256
14:07 VanessaE Megaf: I'm well aware of that.
14:07 VanessaE and yeah, he had a 512+256 and his BIOS warned him that it didn't like mismatched RAM sizes
14:09 VanessaE (it just didn't occur to me to have him check it that way first)
14:27 MinetestBot GIT: VanessaE commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:Novatux/minetest-mod-mesecons 13432ac87c 2014-06-08T10:28:57-04:00 http://git.io/9OKU5Q
14:27 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix #164 b8714f7d93 2014-06-08T16:12:49+02:00 http://git.io/n_LZcg
14:27 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add node detector, which works like the player detector but detects a specific nodename (or any node except air) in front of it. 99cb021f15 2014-06-08T08:29:17+02:00 http://git.io/oI8B6g
14:27 sfan5 OldCoder: run an nginx server, fill the media dir using this https://gist.github.com/sfan5/6351560
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14:37 VanessaE y u no like my flat file script? :)
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14:39 sapier hello does anyone know which mod draws sign text to signs?
14:40 VanessaE signs_lib :-)
14:40 VanessaE homedecor modpack
14:40 Krock in homedecor
14:40 Krock damn
14:40 Krock ninja'd
14:40 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack
14:40 sapier ok ... anyone using android uninstall ;-)
14:40 VanessaE they work fine on my tablet.
14:40 VanessaE only thing I know they don't always work right on are some iOS devices
14:41 VanessaE because the textures aren't power-of-2 sized.
14:42 sapier they're all white for me but my device does support npot2 textures ... strange
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15:11 nman3600 hi
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15:37 Megaf_ Hey nman3600
15:37 Megaf_ Hi sapier
15:37 nman3600 hey Megaf
15:38 Megaf_ 15,01Hello everyone!
15:39 nman3600 how do you do that?
15:39 nman3600 the color thing
15:39 Krock ,09client features
15:39 Krock \<\ $04,09 \>\client features
15:40 PenguinDad Wow clients!
15:40 nman3600 can someone give me some feedback on multitest 2.0 please it's dying and i don't want it to (need link?:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp​;t=9334&amp;sid=9093e35096ef2aba05aee653bf3552db)
15:41 sapier hello megaf
15:41 Megaf sapier; Minetest is pretty stable right now, My server has been up for a couple of days already
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15:42 Krock I updated from a MinGW build to MSVC on server and it's much faster now. Not sure if that compiler makes a difference xD
15:44 Jordach Krock, the compiler on Windows *does* make a difference
15:44 Krock Jordach, but that makes it surely not 2x faster :3
15:47 Jordach you'll be surprised with windows
15:47 Krock xD
15:48 Hirato mingw is using a lot of compatibility shims, and they're hardly perfect :P
15:48 Krock if that happens on win 6.0, then it also should happen on win 5.1
15:48 Krock going to annoy blockmen again
15:48 Krock haha
15:53 PenguinDad Why does nearly every lua mapgen print out how many ms the generation took?
15:56 Hirato I'm hoping for a "look at the logs! I'm not the slow one!"
15:58 * whiskers75 meows* at sfan5
15:58 * sfan5 purrs at whiskers75
15:59 * whiskers75 throws sfan5 a rainbow kitten
15:59 * sfan5 gives whiskers75 a kitten
15:59 * whiskers75 purrs
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16:00 nore PenguinDad, IIRC mg does not do that
16:01 nore and 9 lua mapgen mods out of 10 are done by paramat...
16:02 nore so "nearly every Lua mapgen" == "paramat's mods"
16:02 PenguinDad And Krock's noisetest which is based on a paramat mod
16:03 Krock hmm?
16:03 Krock ms ouput is good to see if it's efficient or not
16:04 nore Krock, keep it for debug
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16:04 Krock WTFPL, remove everything which isn't wanted
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16:13 Vazon Hello Everyone
16:14 VanessaE PenguinDad: they do that because everyone thinks mapgen is slow
16:14 VanessaE and it can be
16:14 VanessaE so coders benchmark their mapgens
16:14 VanessaE I did it with plants_lib for a while until I was satisfied with its speed
16:15 VanessaE (then I removed the benchmarking output, as it was slowing the code down a bit)
16:15 VanessaE (SoniEx2's idea)
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16:24 PenguinDad hmmm… Minetest seems to have problems with focus https://cdn.mediacru.sh/2snPkuUrhhNt.png
16:25 VanessaE brony detected
16:25 VanessaE :)
16:25 sapier maybe we should do as apple does ... make minetest fullscreen only ;-)
16:26 Calinou 0.4.4?
16:26 VanessaE and four copies thereof?
16:26 VanessaE PenguinDad: dude, update.
16:26 asl VanessaE: page not found https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/commi​t/b8714f7d93319c9aad77704957ff027d1a0a6c1b
16:26 Calinou oh, look carefully at the background VanessaE
16:26 Calinou Vinyl Scratch background
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16:27 VanessaE asl: um...okay
16:27 Calinou transparent terminals, revealing “private“ information since 2008
16:27 asl https://github.com/VanessaE/pipe​works/issues/69#event-129150270
16:27 asl i mean the link you posted is a page not found link
16:27 VanessaE oh, that's a github problem
16:27 VanessaE I posted a raw commit ID there
16:28 VanessaE github turned it into a link to the wrong repo.
16:28 VanessaE lemme fix.
16:28 VanessaE there.
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16:35 Piggybear87 My girlfriend has a dual core, she would compile with j3, right?
16:36 asl hi piggybear
16:36 Calinou Piggybear87, -j2 or -j3 work
16:36 Piggybear87 Hey asl.
16:36 Calinou both are as fast, usually
16:36 Calinou which CPU exactly?
16:36 Calinou if she has HyperThreading, then -j4
16:36 Calinou since she would have 4 threads instead of 2
16:36 Calinou the CPUs which have HyperThreading are i3 (desktop + mobile), i5 (mobile only), i7 (desktop + mobile), all from Intel
16:36 Piggybear87 Intel pentium dual core.
16:37 Calinou then no
16:37 Calinou use -j2
16:37 Piggybear87 Oh, ok. Because mapen isn't working.
16:38 Calinou what does that have to do with the processor?
16:38 Piggybear87 Wait, my single core has HT, would I still us -j2?
16:39 Piggybear87 She did -j3 so I thought it might be the problem.
16:39 Calinou yes
16:39 Calinou HT multiplies the number of threads by 2, basically
16:39 Calinou Piggybear87, it doesn't affect anything on runtime
16:40 Calinou a build done with make -j12 will behave the same as one made with make, regardless of CPU
16:40 Jordach <- has hyperthreading
16:40 Piggybear87 So, I have a wannabe dual core?
16:40 Calinou Jordach, you're on an AMD A10-6800K, no?
16:40 Calinou CMT is similar, but not the same thing
16:40 Jordach yup
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16:40 Calinou Piggybear87, kind of… but having HyperThreading is better than no HyperThreading
16:40 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/vzgEDLQz_KgI.png
16:40 Calinou it's not HyperThreading Jordach :p
16:40 Calinou it's not like Steam is too accurate
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16:42 Vazon grrr why is everyone timing out when joining my server :|
16:42 asl maybe it cause they aren't using pc?
16:42 smoke_fumus hmm. game at this moment feels like i am playing 0.8-0.9 alpha of minecraft but without mobs
16:42 smoke_fumus weird
16:44 Calinou Vazon, do you use remote_media?
16:44 Calinou smoke_fumus, there never was 0.x Minecraft after Classic
16:44 Vazon asl im sure there not everyone has been using the app, only 2 other people have successfuly joined and Calinou why?
16:44 Calinou Indev and Infdev had no version numbers, Alpha and Beta used 1.x
16:44 smoke_fumus Calinou: ok. 1.3
16:44 smoke_fumus without mobs
16:44 Calinou Vazon, the remote_media server much be reachable and properly configured if you have one
16:44 Calinou smoke_fumus, beta, alpha?
16:44 Calinou erm
16:44 Calinou there's only beta 1.3
16:44 smoke_fumus alpha
16:45 Calinou latest alpha is 1.2.6
16:45 Calinou (december 03 2010)
16:45 smoke_fumus *trying to recall when started playing*
16:45 smoke_fumus 1.1.3
16:45 smoke_fumus yep
16:45 asl Vazon, what's the ip/domain to your server, i can try to join
16:45 LemonLake smoke_fumus: I wouldn't compare Minetest to Minecraft
16:45 Vazon Calinou: OldCoder was bulding stuff for the servers, could this have something to do with it.
16:45 smoke_fumus LemonLake: lol what
16:45 Vazon asl port is the same as landrush and port is 30012
16:45 LemonLake smoke_fumus: You know what I said
16:46 smoke_fumus are you serious with me right now?
16:46 LemonLake smoke_fumus: I am very serious with you right now
16:46 smoke_fumus then why to i feel something starting with b?
16:46 LemonLake smoke_fumus: There are a lot of things that start with b, not sure what you're on about
16:46 Vazon ip is the same as landrush*
16:48 * smoke_fumus facepalm
16:48 smoke_fumus iss like saying "no, don't compare ken's shooter to wolfenstine 3d", SORRY. COMPRASIONS WOULD BE MADE
16:48 smoke_fumus *ken's labyrinth
16:49 LemonLake smoke_fumus: I'm not saying don't, I'm saying I wouldn't.
16:49 LemonLake smoke_fumus: They are actually very different games.
16:49 smoke_fumus what ken lab and wolf3d? yes, not these 2 however
16:49 LemonLake smoke_fumus: They both have advantages, they both have disadvantages, but they're not remotely the same, and thus not advisable to be compared.
16:50 LemonLake smoke_fumus: That would be like saying PHP is like Python.
16:50 smoke_fumus it is.
16:50 LemonLake smoke_fumus: They may be similar but they're not properly comparable.
16:50 Krock fuu
16:50 Krock PC's overheating
16:50 LemonLake Krock: Douse it with a bucket of water, thank me later
16:50 Piggybear87 asl, Were you working in my farm?
16:50 smoke_fumus both have voxel data structures, both render them as chunks, in both you mine resources, punch trees and build stuff which is locked on 3d grid. Your point?
16:51 asl i just dump lots of item into the auto crafter
16:51 LemonLake smoke_fumus: My point is that just don't compare them.
16:51 LemonLake smoke_fumus: Saves flame wars in the long run, anyway ^.^
16:51 Piggybear87 And lots of saps? Lol, I have a LOT more glue than I had. Lol.
16:51 Krock LemonLake, omg thankxxx
16:52 LemonLake Krock: np :3
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16:53 rubenwardy Hi all!
16:53 LemonLake rubenwardy: Hello, sane person!
17:08 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Localize a few variables, add "GET" command to node detector. 63998fd7e7 2014-06-08T19:02:15+02:00 http://git.io/VZvz4w
17:15 LemonLake what mods does minetestbot check for git changes?
17:16 Calinou probably mesecons, technic only
17:16 ShadowNinja mesecons, worldedit, minetest, minetest_game, and minetest_next
17:17 LemonLake sweggy
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17:20 Calinou no Carbone, but does the bot support Gitorious, ShadowNinja?
17:20 Calinou if so, then you could add my mods + Carbone
17:20 ShadowNinja Calinou: It uses RSS, so maybe.
17:21 ShadowNinja It requires manual configuraration and possibly a restart though.
17:22 rubenwardy the ones by sfan5 only, i guess
17:24 sfan5 Calinou: it supports github rss feeds, I could probably adapt it for gitourious
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17:26 rubenwardy Yay world edit! //lua minetest = nil
17:28 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor would be nice to add, and homedecor, and moreblocks.
17:29 LemonLake suddenly everyone wants their mods in it
17:30 VanessaE and dreambuilder ;)
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17:31 rubenwardy lol
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17:31 rubenwardy I wouldn't want my mods on it, just node box editor
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17:33 ShadowNinja ~help github announce add
17:33 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: (github announce add [<channel>] <owner> <name>) -- Announce the commits of the GitHub repository called <owner>/<name> in the <channel>. <channel> defaults to the current channel.
17:34 ShadowNinja Olny works with github and requires a webhook though.
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17:43 Piggybear87 If I get a prebuilt package from "https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdev​s/+archive/daily-builds/+packages?field​.name_filter=&amp;field.status_filter=p​ublished&amp;field.series_filter=trusty", how do I use it?
17:43 sfan5 run 'minetest'
17:44 sfan5 or use the application menu icon
17:44 Piggybear87 That's it? My girl is having problems with self compiled.
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17:46 Piggybear87 Do I extract first? If "yes", where?
17:47 LemonLake Piggybear87: the tar.gz?
17:47 Piggybear87 .bed
17:47 sfan5 Piggybear87: you need to add the ppa
17:47 sapier https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=9389 new version of android port ... should be about10-30% faster on some android devices
17:47 LemonLake sapier: will test in a min
17:47 LemonLake also i have dpi info for you
17:48 LemonLake also, sapier, I'm sure mods work yes?
17:48 LemonLake if so, how enable?
17:48 Piggybear87 How do I add the ppa? There's no "adding this ppa blah blah" on the page.
17:49 sapier they're supposed to work yes but noone tried by now
17:49 LemonLake well sapier, there's no way to enable them in-game
17:49 LemonLake so i guess you have to edit the world for now
17:49 LemonLake also, multiworld support for singleplayer would be grand <3
17:50 sfan5 Piggybear87: https://launchpad.net/~minete​stdevs/+archive/daily-builds > Adding this PPA to your system
17:51 sapier Well I disabled multiworld on purpose in order to simplify menu
17:51 sapier but of course anyone is free to write a simple more complete menu ;-)
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17:52 LemonLake Chrome: Pop-up blocked, popup appears anyway
17:52 LemonLake sapier: I would love to :D
17:53 LemonLake Is the menu lua-based or java-based?
17:53 LemonLake are are you using c++ with a wrapper?
17:53 PenguinDad LemonLake: Use the formspec young Padawan
17:53 sapier it's lua based
17:53 LemonLake perfect, I would love to make one
17:53 LemonLake testing first tho
17:54 sapier only thing being java is text input
17:54 LemonLake I could tell
17:54 LemonLake startup times are quite long though, what exactly does it scan?
17:54 rubenwardy makes sure all files exist
17:55 rubenwardy ie mods, games, worlds, settings
17:55 rubenwardy (iirc)
17:55 LemonLake ah, is there no way to speed it up?
17:55 LemonLake or at least add a progress bar that WORKS
17:55 rubenwardy You could disable it entirely and rely on the user not to screw with the files
17:55 LemonLake true
17:56 ShadowNinja LemonLake: You mean 0%, 0%, 0%, 0%, 0%, 50%, 100%?  ;-)
17:56 LemonLake ^
17:56 Piggybear87 Ok, I got the ppa added, now what? Click download on the package, or...?
17:56 LemonLake sapier: S Note 2 scale factor is 0.75
17:56 sfan5 Piggybear87: sudo apt-get install minetest
17:56 LemonLake 265ppi, 5.5 inches and 1280x720
17:57 sapier LemonLake: can you post it to the thread? I'm collecting info there
17:57 ShadowNinja We need it to be like other apps, 0%, 50%, 90%, 99%, 99.9%, 99.99%, 99.99%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%... ;-)
17:57 LemonLake sapier: later
17:57 LemonLake what does the on-screen menu button do?
17:57 LemonLake because afaict it does nothing
17:57 ligeti celeron55, busy?
17:57 LemonLake omfg, that item loading is so much faster :D
17:57 Piggybear87 Ok, and when there's an update? Just "sudo apt-get update" and Minetest will update also? And will her worlds, mods, minetest.conf, etc still be there?
17:58 ligeti Hello all :)
17:58 sfan5 Piggybear87: it will get updated with update manager, all user data will ofc stay
17:58 sapier progress bar works ... but only for copying files, On checking I just don't know how much files are there, how am I supposed to do progress the bar? ;-)
17:58 Piggybear87 Sweet! IDK why I don't do that also, lol.
17:58 sapier maybe I should switch to some of thos cylon progress bars for scanning
17:59 LemonLake sapier, if you know what folders to check then just add the count up, turn into a percentage then know what one you're on
17:59 LemonLake btw, i'm either on a really old version or item visuals are proper messed up
17:59 LemonLake they also seem to be upside down :P
17:59 sapier that seems to be a old version
18:00 sapier I thought I fixed the upside doen in last version ... unless there's another special handling by another gpu
18:00 celeron55 < smoke_fumus> hmm. game at this moment feels like i am playing alpha of minecraft
18:00 LemonLake okay, well i may try my hand at another menu gui
18:00 celeron55 this is actually great because that is exactly what it is trying to feel like
18:01 LemonLake ø.ø
18:01 LemonLake you're trying to imitate minecraft?
18:01 celeron55 more like trying to branch out from MC alpha
18:02 LemonLake ic
18:02 LemonLake til
18:02 celeron55 it isn't mentioned anywhere officially though 8)
18:02 Calinou <celeron55> more like trying to branch out from MC alpha
18:02 celeron55 in my opinion minecraft was best at late alpha
18:03 Calinou that was the initial plan: “Take survival multiplayer in a slightly different direction”
18:03 LemonLake I agree celeron55
18:03 Calinou celeron55, there were less kids back then on servers :p
18:03 LemonLake ^
18:03 Calinou less cheaters too
18:03 Calinou bans in general on servers exploded in Beta 1.3 and 1.5
18:03 celeron55 the multiplayer was technically complete crap though 8)
18:04 Calinou yeah, no health, client-side inventory
18:04 LemonLake gona get an android emulator so I can test on the 'average phone'
18:04 LemonLake because my s note 2 is more a phablet
18:04 ligeti celeron55, do you know which file (source code) explains the packets (data) sent by the play when moving/rotating ... etc.?
18:04 sfan5 ligeti: client.cpp
18:04 ligeti thanks
18:04 celeron55 and clientserver.h
18:05 ligeti thank you
18:05 Calinou talking about rotating: it would be nice if someone finally implemented player/entity yaw change smoothing; there's currently position smoothing but no yaw smoothing; celeron55 said this was very easy, but I'm not able to do it
18:06 ligeti by smoothing you mean ... "slower"?
18:06 sfan5 I think Calinou means interpolation
18:06 Calinou yeah
18:06 Calinou exactly
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18:33 ligeti guys, which IDE would you recommend to browse the source code (and work on it) on linux, I am "using" code:blocks, but it doesn't have "build project from existing code" option
18:34 ligeti which makes it difficult to import the project (I guess)
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18:37 Jordach ligeti, just manually recompile
18:38 Eater4 ShadowNinja?
18:39 ShadowNinja Eater4: Please don't mention me without telling me what you want.  Wnat is it?
18:39 ligeti I don't want to recompile yet... I just want to browse the code (and search in multiple files) ... I still can do it manually though (using Linux command) but... using a IDE will help a lot!
18:39 Eater4 Sorry, is Luabot written in c++?
18:39 ShadowNinja No, it's written in Lua of course.
18:40 ShadowNinja And Lua is written in C.
18:40 Eater4 I am so stupid!
18:40 Eater4 Ok then.
18:40 LemonLake trying to get use to the UI of nexus...
18:40 LemonLake it's very different to touchwiz
18:41 Eater4 I am trying to add the voice thingie to my bot....
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18:48 LemonLake how long does it take to download >.<
18:54 sfan5 ligeti: if you want to have code::blocks be able to compile minetest use CMake and generate Code::Blocks output
18:54 ligeti sfan5, thank you very much :)
18:56 Piggybear87 With the pre-packaged Minetest, where do I find mods, worlds, etc?
18:56 LemonLake nose
19:02 Eater4 ShadowNinja: maybe can we have Hluabot at #minetest on isis?
19:04 Piggybear87 Anyone?
19:07 ligeti Piggybear87, isn't that in /home/[user]/.minetest/ ?
19:07 Piggybear87 No.
19:08 ligeti sorry
19:08 Piggybear87 Nevermind. It made it after the first launch...
19:09 Eater4 Piggybear87: most of the mods are at the forum
19:10 Piggybear87 No, I mean the folder to PUT the mods in after we download.
19:10 LemonLake sapier: My settings weren't saving properly till I looked at the conf and found that gui_scale and touchscreen_threshold had merged onto one line
19:11 Eater4 Piggybear87: in the mod folder....
19:13 Piggybear87 It doesn't have it when pre-packaged. You have to make the mods folder. I figured it out.
19:15 Piggybear87 VanessaE, can you give me that minetestmapper script again please. I'm using the pre-packaged so I will have to find the path to worlds, but I can't remember how to do it.
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19:16 VanessaE er..
19:17 Piggybear87 I'm gonna copy/paste into a .txt so I don't have to ask again.. Lol.
19:18 Calinou ligeti, I use Geany
19:18 LemonLake dangit
19:18 Calinou but I don't use IDE features (I use it like a text editor, hiding the other windows)
19:18 LemonLake okay, can't close unified inventory on android
19:18 Calinou but you can try using it as an IDE and see
19:18 Calinou it can search & replace in many files, if they're opened
19:18 Calinou the command to search in a directory is: grep -r "stuff"
19:18 Calinou very useful ;)
19:19 EvergreenTree or use gedit
19:19 EvergreenTree I use geany as an ide
19:19 EvergreenTree and kate as a text editor
19:19 EvergreenTree (as well as vim)
19:19 VanessaE minetestmapper --drawscale --geometry -5000:-7500+12000+15000 --backend leveldb -i /path/to/your_world_folder -o /path/to/your_output_image.png
19:19 VanessaE adjust the geometry as needed, leave out the `--backend leveldb` part if you're using sqlite.
19:20 Piggybear87 Thank you. :)
19:21 LemonLake VanessaE: Have you been able to close unified_inventory on android?
19:21 VanessaE LemonLake: I think I tried maybe once and I seem to recall it worked then
19:21 LemonLake How did you do it? just back button?
19:21 VanessaE but I only have a very low-end tablet that doesn't work well with Minetest to befin with
19:21 VanessaE begin*
19:21 VanessaE you can double-tap outside the Unified Inventory formspec also
19:22 LemonLake ah thanks
19:22 LemonLake figured out what that menu-like button does, it's the shift button
19:25 ligeti Calinou, thank you
19:25 ligeti I will check that later
19:27 ligeti I am trying to understand the protocol used to communicate (send chat, commands... etc.)
19:27 LemonLake so my android is now at 40.9 C because of minetest, and i just burnt my hand by touching the top of the screen. fun.
19:28 Amaz Painful.
19:28 Calinou #minetest-dev can help
19:29 Calinou LemonLake, touching 40°C stuff burns you?
19:29 Calinou wouldn't it feel just a bit warm?
19:29 Calinou (since it's just slightly above body temperature)
19:29 Amaz Yeah...
19:29 ligeti Calinou, I don't think they have time for this :P
19:29 LemonLake Calinou: My hand was on it for an hour.
19:30 LemonLake Calinou: Plus, I'm extremely sensitive
19:30 Jordach LemonLake, i can heat my tablet to 50
19:30 LemonLake I'm not trying to brag or anything, I'm trying to imply that the temperature is a little bit extreme for a simple game
19:31 VanessaE LemonLake: you can't burn your hand on 40C.  it's physically impossible.  besides, 40C is nothing at all for a computer.
19:31 VanessaE a high end GPU can hit 100C or more.
19:31 LemonLake VanessaE: I didn't mean BURN. I meant just made hot to the point of pretty itchy.
19:31 VanessaE CPUs routinely go up to 70 (if improperly cooled)
19:31 Calinou LemonLake, it's far from simple
19:31 Calinou <VanessaE> a high end GPU can hit 100C or more.
19:32 Calinou no, not really
19:32 LemonLake whatever
19:32 VanessaE Calinou: yes, yes really :)
19:32 Calinou R9 290X is (the now famous) 94°C
19:32 LemonLake </flamewar>
19:32 LemonLake (literally)
19:32 Calinou ~ 80°C on custom cards (get one, even though it increases CPU temperature)
19:32 Calinou besides, 40C is nothing at all for a computer.
19:32 Calinou I believe it's more for mobile hardware?
19:32 VanessaE Calinou: I've run my GPU at 90 before
19:32 Calinou I wouldn't do that, except for GPUs that are designed for it
19:32 VanessaE anyway, doesn't matter
19:32 VanessaE I think mine was
19:33 VanessaE older GPU, before they had good power management
19:33 Jordach Calinou, i once saw my APU hit 85
19:33 Calinou today's middle end GPUs only get up to 60-65°C
19:33 Jordach (but then a static setting turns the fan off after a while)
19:33 Calinou they're better choices because they're much quieter too
19:33 VanessaE Calinou: only if you don't turn the fan down
19:33 Calinou VanessaE, no, that's with custom cards
19:33 Calinou when they're at 65°C, they're quiet
19:34 VanessaE Calinou: I have my GPUs set to mine X11-based cryptocurrency, they both run 75-80C with the fan's clocked in the 35 to 50% speed range.
19:34 Calinou mining is particular
19:34 VanessaE fans*
19:34 Calinou I'm talking about gaming
19:34 Calinou which is a bit less demanding than mining
19:34 VanessaE true
19:34 VanessaE until you talk about minetest ;)
19:35 * VanessaE throws Minetest and HDX at her GPU and it chokes :P
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19:35 Calinou jungles are FPS hogs in default game
19:35 Calinou fixed by making them glasslike, adding post-process and making the texture more dense
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19:35 m5 hi
19:35 Calinou (the jungle leaves)
19:35 Calinou hi m5
19:35 m5 I saw a topic a while back about a fully rendered minetest map
19:35 Calinou fully rendered?
19:35 m5 Something about 8 channels per block
19:36 m5 Some calculations on size
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19:44 Piggybear87 Can anyone explain to me why my machine would run almost perfect (~40 FPS), but when I get around any lights, like glow glass or torches, etc. I lag like crazy (~1-5 FPS). I have all display setting off, and opaque water on.
19:45 Jordach >and opaque water on.
19:45 Jordach might be a problem?
19:46 m5 Ambient lighting?
19:46 m5 using OpenGL?
19:46 Piggybear87 No, transparent water make me lag more.
19:46 Piggybear87 Yes, OpenGL 2.1.1
19:46 Calinou you mean it gives you lower FPS
19:46 Calinou not lag
19:46 Piggybear87 Yes.
19:47 m5 Oh god not the Lag lecture
19:47 m5 Piggybear87, Does your PC support DirectX>
19:47 Calinou on Windows, it must
19:47 Calinou on other OS, it doesn't
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19:50 Piggybear87 I have Lubuntu, so, no.
19:50 Calinou what's your graphics card?
19:50 Calinou lspci | grep VGA
19:50 Piggybear87 I did find a way to support DirectX, but I couldn't figure it out.
19:50 Calinou Wine, indeed
19:50 Calinou it's an hack
19:51 Calinou if you can run natively, don't use Wine
19:51 Piggybear87 Nvidia 6 series. I now, I know... Eeewww Nvidia on linux...
19:51 Piggybear87 know*
19:51 Calinou Piggybear87, which driver? Nouveau or NVIDIA? if NVIDIA, which version?
19:52 Calinou (if you haven't touched anything, you're probably using Nouveau)
19:52 Calinou it's suggested you get NVIDIA driver for better performance, but in exchange you get less flexibility on updates (and a proprietary driver)
19:52 Piggybear87 piggybear87@piggybear87-pc:~$ lspci | grep VGA
19:52 Piggybear87 01:02.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
19:52 Piggybear87 And I have the Nvidia one.
19:52 jin_xi VanessaE: all the signs mods use string concatenations to build up the imagestrings. this is worst case for lua garbage collector according to pil.
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19:53 nman3600 hi
19:53 * nman3600 is currently making a texture pack!
19:53 jin_xi so if memory is a concern, try using a table and table.concat
19:54 Calinou I wanted to add signs_lib in Carbone, but thought about performance issues ;)
19:54 Calinou nman3600, screenshots?
19:54 Piggybear87 How do I find out the exact driver?
19:54 Calinou Piggybear87, Software Sources → Additional Drivers
19:56 nman3600 Calinou: https://mediacru.sh/EMdJXg5QEnrW
19:56 nman3600 and Calinou https://mediacru.sh/SrknFHHL2Ofx
19:56 Calinou doesn't look good
19:56 Piggybear87 NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.117 from nvidia-304 (proprietary, tested)
19:57 nman3600 it's called RPGcraft
19:57 Calinou is your pack 16 × 16 or 32 × 32?
19:57 nman3600 16x16
19:57 Calinou Piggybear87, so you're using the NVIDIA one :P
19:57 nman3600 only apple's 32x32 D: is that a prob
19:57 Calinou I guess there's not much to do, apart from reducing max view distance: viewing_range_nodes_min = 40
19:57 Calinou nman3600, yes, inconsistent
19:57 Piggybear87 Like I said. But there's 3 Nvidia ones and the open source one.
19:58 Calinou all 3 probably perform similar
19:58 Piggybear87 Ah, So I have to put up with the lower FPS around light?
19:58 nman3600 Calinou i'm not gonna let 1 bit of bad feedback stop me
19:59 Piggybear87 Or get a new machine with a 400 dollar graphics card...
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20:00 Calinou nman3600, well, I'm sure other people will have similar opinions
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20:00 Calinou Piggybear87, you certainly don't need 400 dollar graphics card for Minetest
20:00 Calinou an IGP is enough – that costs 0 (it's in your CPU)
20:00 Calinou but the ones in older CPUs suck ;)
20:01 Piggybear87 Yeah, mine only supports OpenGL 1.3 which makes my sky and inventory textures black...
20:02 Piggybear87 I have to run my machine in recovery mode because of my graphics card. Maybe that'[s my low FPS problem...
20:03 Jordach Piggybear87, don't buy an AMD machine
20:03 Piggybear87 That's*
20:03 Jordach (i have driver issues with the latest kernel)
20:03 Piggybear87 Jordach, Why? That's what I was looking at.
20:03 Megaf folks, what do you think if I make an IRC server to link the servers, where each player name will have the same user name on iRC?
20:03 Piggybear87 Oh...
20:03 Megaf we could use that as account control too
20:03 Jordach Piggybear87, i got to the Desktop of Ubuntu, then it went black and was not respondingh
20:03 Jordach (in LiveCD)
20:03 Calinou <Jordach> Piggybear87, don't buy an AMD machine
20:04 Calinou well, that's valid from an hardware standpoint
20:04 Calinou high power usage, low single thread performance, worse motherboards, not cheaper, bleak future…
20:04 * Megaf have an AMD machine is really happy with it
20:04 Calinou Megaf, I'm talking about hardware in 2014 here
20:04 Calinou if you're buying something new
20:04 Jordach Calinou, they fucking compressed an R9 into an APU
20:04 Megaf I agree with poor signle thread performance
20:04 Calinou Intel is lonely, in front of AMD, except for very specific use cases
20:04 Jordach http://www.ebuyer.com/613105-amd-a10-​7850k-black-edition-3-7ghz-socket-fm2​-apu-4mb-cache-retail-ad785kxbjabox
20:05 Piggybear87 I like the hardware it comes with, and it was only ~400 buck (as opposed to an Intel with the same specs at ~500 bucks...)
20:05 Calinou Jordach, wrong, it's severely downclocked
20:05 Calinou Piggybear87, specs don't matter, what matters is performance
20:05 Jordach Calinou, does intel have GPU-ish performance on the iX?
20:05 Calinou I hope you don't buy graphic cards based on VRAM amount on them
20:05 * Jordach doesn't
20:05 Calinou Jordach, it's worse, but do you really need it?
20:05 Megaf Calinou: AMD is actually better in true CPU intensive multithread scenarios and virtualization of several OSes at the same time
20:05 Jordach i've been looking at the GTX780
20:05 Calinou the graphics performance of the high end APUs has no real use
20:05 Calinou too slow for AAA games, too fast for lightweight games
20:06 Jordach Calinou, bollocks
20:06 Jordach i can get smooth sailing 60fps on TF2 at 10870p
20:06 Megaf AMD is slow for doing one thing at time, but it can do several things at the same time
20:06 Jordach -7
20:06 Calinou not to mention worse drivers in general (outside of Windows)
20:06 OldCoder Amaz, fishy* asked me not to announce the new world formally. I won't put any of them on the server list until a move is completed. But I'd like to announce the new world here simply for visitors. Would he mind if it is made clear this is only a demo?
20:06 Calinou Megaf, Intel does the multiple things as fast… and the single thread 50% faster
20:06 Calinou (not to mention higher RAM bandwidth, even though this isn't useful to most people)
20:07 Calinou Jordach, an HD 4600 could maybe get these, if you tweak settings
20:07 Megaf Calinou: on Desktops yes, but Opterons have a super quick Hyper Transport bus
20:07 Megaf maybe AMD should make better server chips and use Opterons on desktop...
20:09 Piggybear87 ~400 bucks for a six core with 8 GB of RAM is good though.
20:09 ShadowBot Piggybear87: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:09 Megaf indeed
20:09 Calinou Megaf, server CPUs aren't useful to the vast majority of people: they're expensive for no reason
20:09 Calinou Piggybear87, erm, six “cores”
20:09 Piggybear87 ShadowBot, Shut up.
20:09 Calinou these are not true cores, in the FXs
20:09 Calinou you have 3 modules ;)
20:09 Calinou <Megaf> maybe AMD should make better server chips and use Opterons on desktop...
20:09 Calinou AMD would never do that
20:09 Megaf I still want to buy the Phenom II x6
20:10 Jordach Calinou, thoughs on the GTX 780
20:10 Calinou too expensive
20:10 Jordach thoughts*
20:10 Calinou power hog card :(
20:10 Calinou small cards like 750 Ti are the future, to me
20:10 Calinou easy to install, small, quiet… while not very fast, it's a smart choice
20:10 Megaf amd phenom ii x6 1090t
20:10 Megaf my next upgrade
20:10 Calinou (I doubt AMD can do the same thing, especially power efficiency)
20:10 Calinou (they failed on the CPU side already)
20:11 Jordach Calinou, http://www.ebuyer.com/618545-msi-g​eforce-gtx-750-1g-oc-n750-1gd5-oc
20:11 Calinou 750 and 750 Ti are different
20:11 Calinou also, that one has reference-like heatsink, not that good
20:11 Jordach my kind of price range (note that my power suppy is 250w, must bump to 650w)
20:11 Calinou “- £90 in game for Warface, Path of Exile, and
20:11 Calinou Heroes of Newerth (£30 for each game)” → HoN is free to play
20:11 Calinou nice try
20:12 Calinou Jordach, 250W?! which brand?
20:12 Jordach unknown in this tower
20:12 Amaz OldCoder, I'm sorry, I don't quite get your meaning...
20:13 Calinou probably a crappy one
20:13 Calinou change ASAP
20:14 Calinou Added animated active locked furnace texture, texture improvements.
20:16 Piggybear87 To me, money matters and here's why I prefer AMD... http://pastebin.com/zjTNT8BV
20:18 Piggybear87 Forgot the prices... http://pastebin.com/6daXpMrX
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20:18 VanessaE jin_xi: I'm not worried about memory usage, but apparently minetest handles the actual composited image result VERY poorly
20:19 VanessaE (the client does, that is)
20:20 VanessaE specifically sapier determined that they are the cause for the poor FPS around spawns on my server
20:20 VanessaE servers*
20:21 Calinou Piggybear87, the prices are actually almost the same, not to mention Intel will be slightly cheaper when used (less power used)
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20:21 Calinou the 4930K obviously has bad perf/price, but is much, much faster than FX-6300 (twice as fast?)
20:21 Piggybear87 My power is included in my rent.
20:21 Calinou learn to choose hardware, then compare again
20:21 VanessaE jin_xi: I can only imagine that the engine is actually compositing all of the images used,  in realtime, frame by frame.
20:21 Calinou the comparison isn't fair at all
20:21 Calinou a fairer one is FX-8350 vs i5-4570
20:22 Calinou on both sides, a decent 990X and H87 motherboard
20:22 Piggybear87 I went with the closes Ghz six core, and the same rame.
20:22 Calinou (not an insane one)
20:22 Calinou the 4930K has six real cores
20:22 Calinou unlike the FX-6300 which has 3 modules
20:22 Piggybear87 I don't have more than a grand to spaen on a machine...
20:22 Calinou that power supply is crap
20:22 Piggybear87 spend*
20:22 Calinou it'll likely boom all your stuff
20:22 Calinou same for case
20:23 Calinou graphics card is also useless, but hey, the FXs require them as they lack an IGP (unlike Intel)
20:23 Piggybear87 I picked the cheapest cases to keep it fair, and the AMD HAS on board video...
20:24 Calinou no
20:24 Piggybear87 ASUS M5A78L-M LX PLUS AM3+, Onboard Video,Sound, GB LAN
20:24 Piggybear87 Onboard video...
20:24 Calinou some _motherboards_ (which era do we live in?) have chipset, with VERY limited 3D capabilities
20:24 Calinou it's something you do NOT want
20:24 Calinou at all
20:24 Calinou Intel has proper IGPs, with fast 2D and decent 3D and very good drivers
20:25 Piggybear87 AMD is unlocked from the factory without paying extra...
20:25 Calinou I doubt you need to overclock anyway; it's mostly a waste of time
20:25 Calinou (and reduces your perf/watt ratio)
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20:25 Piggybear87 Again, I don't pay electric...
20:25 Calinou the non-K models can already have their Turbo ratios slightly increase (200-300MHz), better than nothing
20:25 Calinou Piggybear87, it means more heat and noise too
20:25 Calinou and time spent configuring and testing (oh god…) the overclock
20:26 Calinou if you've spent 1 hour testing an overclock on a burn-in software, you've wasted time :P
20:26 Piggybear87 I've got fans laying around and noise doesn't bother me.
20:26 Amaz OldCoder,  I'm sure he wouldn't mid.
20:28 OldCoder Amaz, kk. You announce then. ANNOUNCE: Amaz will now speak very briefly about
20:28 OldCoder minetest.org:30020
20:28 OldCoder LORD OF THE TEST
20:28 OldCoder (dramatic music)
20:28 OldCoder
20:28 Piggybear87 Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 3000 GPU
20:30 Amaz Basicly, it is a Lord of the Rings themed subgame, which OldCoder has very kindly agreed to host. I am the secondary developer of it, with FishyWET being the first. If you could come onto the server, and give us any suggestions/bugs we would be very grateful!
20:30 OldCoder FishyWET wanted it known this is just a snapshot
20:30 Amaz You can leave bugs/suggestions here: https://lordofthetest.titanpad.com/​Lord-Of-The-Test-Public-Discussion
20:30 OldCoder He found some sort of issue that he plans to update very shortly
20:30 Amaz Yep.
20:32 Amaz There are 1 or 2 little bugs, with the result of a smelting recipe, and something else/
20:32 Calinou <Piggybear87> Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 3000 GPU
20:32 Calinou that thing is ~8 years old and it's very low end
20:32 Calinou I'm not trying to demean you or anything…
20:33 Piggybear87 It comes out to cost... I would never spend more than 500 bucks on a machine. DEFIANTLY not more than 1000 bucks!
20:35 Piggybear87 I can literally buy 2 of those AMD's for the cost of 1 Intel.
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20:38 Piggybear87 !up minetest.org 30011
20:38 MinetestBot minetest.org:30011 is up (616ms)
20:39 Calinou it's “definitely”
20:39 Calinou and I said it already, you're doing it wrong
20:39 Vazon cand someone help me with curl and media speeds?
20:39 VanessaE Piggybear87: it'll cost you round about $700 for a good, decent fast gaming box.
20:39 Calinou VanessaE, it depends a lot on which games you want to play
20:39 VanessaE a bit more than that for a good laptop
20:39 Calinou a bit more? more like twice.
20:39 VanessaE Calinou: I said "decent fast", not "shit hot fast" ;)
20:39 Calinou but gaming laptops are noisy and hot anyway
20:39 Piggybear87 That machine is pretty damn fast for the cost...
20:40 Calinou it isn't; it'll feel less responsive than one with Intel CPU
20:40 Calinou I hope you have a SSD too…
20:40 Calinou it's what matters a lot for perceived speed
20:40 Calinou you can have i7 and HDD, your machine will feel slow ;)
20:40 Piggybear87 I can add one for 64 dollars.
20:41 Piggybear87 OldCoder, I can't connect to Landrush.
20:41 Calinou better have a fairly large one, so that you can put all your programs on it, or ideally, everything
20:41 Calinou (many SSD brands suck, like Corsair, remember)
20:41 Piggybear87 I have a few 80+ HDD's laying around for my music and such..
20:42 Piggybear87 80+GB*
20:43 VanessaE Samsung 840's are good, this Mushkin 120 Chronos Enhanced is good too.
20:43 OldCoder Piggybear87, reviewing
20:43 OldCoder What is happening, exactly?
20:43 Piggybear87 Also, I have a machine with a slower CPU that I can stuff 4 HDD's into and 8 USB HDD's for practically unlimited storage space.
20:44 Piggybear87 I just can't connect. It gets to "connecting to server" and it hangs.
20:44 Vazon Can someone please help me with curl and media speed issues
20:45 Calinou <Piggybear87> Also, I have a machine with a slower CPU that I can stuff 4 HDD's into and 8 USB HDD's for practically unlimited storage space.
20:45 Calinou any PC can do that today.
20:45 Calinou (desktop)
20:46 Piggybear87 I know, but I wouldn't need a huge SSD for anything. Just Minetest. That's all I play.
20:47 Calinou 64GB SSDs are quite slow and are starting to die
20:47 * sfan5 throws cookies at Calinou
20:48 Calinou I'm not angry
20:49 OldCoder Piggybear87, I shall try to connect now
20:49 OldCoder Which port, again?
20:50 Piggybear87 30011
20:51 OldCoder Piggybear87, there may be a bug in latest git
20:51 OldCoder I see no signs of network or server hardware problems
20:51 OldCoder Or a bug in the world
20:51 Piggybear87 On my side, or yours?
20:51 OldCoder In the world? I mean in the world
20:51 Piggybear87 No, a bug in the newest git.
20:51 OldCoder Hm? That would be in the code
20:52 OldCoder Let me restart the world
20:52 Piggybear87 I know, but would it be server side or client side?
20:52 OldCoder As you are using the same client as before
20:52 OldCoder Presumably server side
20:52 OldCoder Hang on; I will restart the world
20:52 OldCoder We will need to see this happen a few times
20:52 OldCoder To gather information
20:52 Piggybear87 No, I updated today. And OK.
20:52 OldCoder Piggybear87, favor;
20:53 Piggybear87 Yes?
20:53 OldCoder try 30012 or 30020
20:53 OldCoder Actually, both
20:53 OldCoder able to connect or not to those?
20:54 Piggybear87 30020 connects, and 30012 hangs at "media...".
20:55 OldCoder Interesting
20:55 Piggybear87 Wait, no.
20:55 Piggybear87 30020 hangs at media also.
20:55 OldCoder I suspect a MT bug
20:55 Piggybear87 Did you update today also?
20:55 Amaz I'm on 30020.
20:55 OldCoder See if it happens on any other servers that have latest git
20:55 OldCoder Yes
20:55 OldCoder Amaz, the issue happens
20:55 OldCoder during connect
20:55 Amaz Okay.
20:56 OldCoder Piggybear87, I rebuilt yesterday I think
20:56 OldCoder But I was able to connect afterwards
20:56 Amaz Should I quit and try come back on
20:56 Amaz ?
20:56 Piggybear87 I will re-try, maybe I'm not giving it enough time.
20:56 OldCoder I am going to restart now; so, yes
20:56 Amaz Okay.
20:56 OldCoder Tell #minetest-dev media is slow
20:56 Vazon aaaa the restart got me
20:56 Vazon lol
20:57 sfan5 OldCoder: are you using remote_media?
20:58 Piggybear87 OldCoder, I'm connecting to landrush, but it's horrible slow.
21:00 Piggybear87 And it's hanging at media again.
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21:18 Vazon Piggy that is why people are timing out, there hanging on media :|
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21:24 OldCoder Piggybear87, I am setting up curl right now
21:24 OldCoder Piggybear87, Vazon people will need curl clients
21:24 OldCoder This is a known issue
21:24 OldCoder From now on, curl should be thought of as a requirement
21:25 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Allow custom liquids to have drops 282f53ddb7 2014-06-08T23:25:13+02:00 http://git.io/ixvIHg
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21:32 Piggybear87 OldCoder, Does the ppa version of Minetest have curl?
21:32 sfan5 Piggybear87: probably
21:33 sfan5 I'd be surprised if it didn't
21:33 Piggybear87 OK, How do I check?
21:33 Amaz By trying to join an OldCoder server?
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21:34 Piggybear87 Nevermind. I went to singleplayer and hit esc and it say curl=1
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21:35 OldCoder Piggybear87, Amaz not ready yet
21:35 OldCoder I am building the curl repository
21:35 OldCoder Vazon, ^
21:35 Amaz Okay.
21:35 Vazon ok thanks
21:37 ExoKruzer I have a question.. I run modded minecraft servers, however.. Since this EULA crap that has been going on.. i am looking for other options. Does Minetest have the same EULA as mojang? As in.. are servers allowed to sell perks for money in minetest?
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21:42 OldCoder Amaz, Vazon ready to retest in a little while. This will be appreciated.
21:42 Amaz Okay.
21:42 Amaz Have the servers been restarted?
21:43 Miner_48er ExoKruzer read the website or github page
21:44 Amaz ExoKruser: I believe that it would be okay, but it may be frowned upon by some community members...
21:45 ExoKruzer Alrighty
21:46 ExoKruzer I have another question.. I rent a few dedicated servers from OVH with centos 6.5 on it. Is there a way to set up a minetest server using it? Or is that not available yet?
21:46 Amaz What's OVH? A VPS?
21:46 Miner_48er compile it from source
21:47 Amaz If so then do as Miner_48er says.
21:47 ExoKruzer I dont use VPS.. I use the dedicated servers. Meaning im in control to the entire "computer" and no one else
21:47 ExoKruzer Alrighty, thanks
21:47 Amaz Okay.
21:47 Amaz Then as Miner_48er said.
21:48 OldCoder Vazon, indicate depth again for edit of your world. In game units.
21:48 OldCoder Vazon, also is the latest _game uploaded?
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21:49 Miner_48er ExoKruzer have you tried a minetest server?
21:49 Vazon OldCoder -1500 as in x,-1500,z and no the newest game inst uplaoded i have already made some changes should be up soon
21:50 OldCoder kk
21:50 OldCoder proceed pls
21:50 OldCoder also what mod does this autoban thing?
21:52 OldCoder
21:52 OldCoder what is remote_port for again?
21:52 NakedFury hello
21:53 OldCoder NakedFury, 5 worlds up shortly
21:53 OldCoder with LuaJit, curl, latest stuff
21:53 OldCoder Including Lord of the test
21:53 NakedFury did you fix the problem with clients you were experiencing before>
21:53 NakedFury ?
21:53 OldCoder Yes
21:53 OldCoder IIRC
21:54 LemonLake I'm really quite annoyed right now, I really want to make a mod but idk what to make :/
21:54 OldCoder I can cross-build both 32 and 64 bit
21:54 OldCoder Is there a MT setting to disable fog?
21:54 NakedFury Lemonlake if you know enough coding why not try a Terrafirmacraft inspired game for minetest?
21:55 VanessaE OldCoder: press F3
21:55 ExoKruzer Miner_48er, what do you mean?
21:55 OldCoder VanessaE, no; I am preparing new conf files
21:55 LemonLake NakedFury: Terrafirmacraft?
21:55 Miner_48er Have you tried a few servers to see what the differences are?
21:56 ExoKruzer I havent even tried the game
21:57 Amaz Maybe you should do that...
21:58 NakedFury its a minecraft mod
21:58 LemonLake NakedFury: I looked it up but don't quite understand it, what do you mean?
21:58 LemonLake NakedFury: I don't like the idea of copying a minecraft mod...
21:58 NakedFury its realistic in things
21:58 NakedFury blocks fall if not supported
21:58 LemonLake NakedFury: I'm all up for making something realistic but I'm sure something already does that
21:58 NakedFury the crafting is very different
21:59 NakedFury I dont think we have a mod that makes blocks fall if not supported, so making cave houses is difficult
21:59 LemonLake NakedFury: The idea of it makes world generation a lot more laggy, the world generation is like that
21:59 NakedFury yeah thats the downside
21:59 LemonLake NakedFury: And too big of one to bother
22:00 OldCoder What does public_serverlist = do?
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22:01 LemonLake OldCoder: It remembers if you ticked the public serverlist box or not, if true it'll automatically show public servers in 'client'
22:02 Vazon VanessaE: is there a place in the technic toolworkshop to slow down the repair a bit?
22:02 LemonLake Okay, still on the ignore list.
22:02 LemonLake Goodbye anyway
22:03 Amaz Right, I'm going now!
22:03 OldCoder Is RedCrab world up and expected to continue?
22:04 Vazon RedCrab is having technical problems i believe
22:04 OldCoder ty
22:04 OldCoder I have a copy
22:05 OldCoder I have a question. No controversy is wished. Landrush had 17,000 visitors. Most were transitory though. Essentially nobody would pay $2 per month to access a world; correct?
22:05 Vazon i'm confused bythis question OldCoder
22:06 OldCoder Vazon, my colocation host has often expressed interest in business models...
22:06 VanessaE Vazon: redcrab:30401 is up and seems to work just fine with current git, amazingly enough
22:06 OldCoder I host these worlds for free. And access to the key people would always be free. Plus I give away copies for free so that anybody can host. If I charged the public for access, I assume nobody would enter. Correct?
22:07 OldCoder Vazon, ^
22:07 OldCoder * for the key people
22:07 * VanessaE looks around the spawn
22:07 VanessaE seems about the same as I remember it
22:08 VanessaE it's a little laggy
22:08 VanessaE but it works
22:08 VanessaE my house is still here
22:08 Vazon yes
22:08 OldCoder 17,000 people. So many.
22:09 Vazon OldCoder why not do donations, i would befine doing something like this on for my server
22:09 OldCoder Vazon, heh
22:09 OldCoder You are young
22:09 Vazon donate and you get special items
22:09 OldCoder Out of 100,000 people; 5 would donate
22:09 OldCoder about $1
22:09 OldCoder Once
22:09 OldCoder
22:10 Vazon yes but o well
22:10 OldCoder Server actually costs me money. This is just thinking.
22:10 OldCoder Probably too soon
22:10 ExoKruzer It depends on what you offer them in return for money..
22:10 OldCoder We'll wait and see how things go. But fair notice; I am considering the option.
22:10 OldCoder ExoKruzer, access to a fast server and a large world
22:10 OldCoder That would be about it
22:10 OldCoder I should have about 20 worlds again soon
22:10 OldCoder Possibly a single payment gets access to 20 varied worlds
22:11 OldCoder Might fly
22:11 ExoKruzer Am i allowed to show you what i use for my servers?
22:11 ExoKruzer well, link you
22:11 OldCoder Hm? Me? of course
22:12 OldCoder If I did something like this people would be pretty angry; but it would be anger without cause if I make copies available
22:12 ExoKruzer http://www.soyoustart.com/us/offers/ssd-3.xml I use that
22:12 OldCoder R
22:12 ExoKruzer It is pretty cheap and very powerful
22:12 OldCoder ExoKruzer, not following; what are you showing us?
22:12 OldCoder Ah
22:13 OldCoder Just a disk? Fine
22:13 ExoKruzer A server to run tests on or host public servers
22:13 OldCoder Not following; pls continue
22:14 OldCoder Sorry but your page doesn't make things clear
22:14 OldCoder Advisable to add a clear mission statement or use case
22:14 OldCoder What is it that this page is for?
22:14 OldCoder And how does it connect to you?
22:14 * OldCoder is migrating Landrush to LevelDB
22:14 OldCoder ^ Vazon, others
22:15 * asl think landrush is going to break
22:15 ExoKruzer Thats not mine. That is a host for dedicated servers. What i saw in your conversation it seems like you need resources/power to run multiple worlds/servers to run tests on or let people use..
22:15 OldCoder asl, go on; explain
22:15 OldCoder ExoKruzer, I have plenty hardware ATM :-)
22:15 OldCoder Need money to pay for it
22:15 asl landrush is HUGE
22:15 OldCoder asl, LevelDB should help. Plus I deleted 2GB of Nether.
22:16 asl elevator to nether level still exist
22:16 OldCoder asl, but it no longer generates
22:16 OldCoder and I deleted what was there
22:16 OldCoder Nether is too damn big
22:16 OldCoder Hmm
22:17 asl can you at least add back netherrack (the block)?
22:17 OldCoder Blocks are still there! asl. I think it might fly. I'll run 20 good worlds. If traffic builds, fee to access. One fee for all the worlds. Copies for free to all; people can't complain.
22:17 OldCoder asl, Brandon edited Nether
22:17 asl i got a floor make out of it and it turn into unknown block
22:17 OldCoder It is still there
22:17 OldCoder I can share the mod with you and you can tell me the problem
22:18 OldCoder I'll give you the whole landrush_game.zip
22:18 Vazon its Netherrank Brick i believe
22:18 OldCoder Will that help?
22:18 Vazon netherrack is still in
22:18 OldCoder So what is the problem with his block?
22:18 asl it's normal netherrack, my shop turn into unknown blocks
22:18 OldCoder Hm. Landrush migrate may take 20 minutes
22:18 OldCoder Vazon, can you comment on his issue?
22:18 OldCoder Also let me know when you have uploaded new _game
22:20 OldCoder Vazon, asl, Amaz my worlds will restart in a bit. I have added curl to make media whoosh by :P also changing some worlds to LevelDB. LuaJit in place. Not sure what to do to make it faster.
22:20 asl disable all the mods, that will make it faster :P
22:20 OldCoder Awww but people love their mods
22:20 OldCoder Plus LuaJit helps with that
22:20 Vazon ok
22:21 OldCoder Landrush migrate at 3%. Possibly a full hour to migrate. It *is* a large world.
22:22 OldCoder Vazon, I'm going to go feed http://oldcoder.org/cluck.jpg but may edit your levels after
22:22 Vazon kk
22:39 OldCoder Vazon, back and dropping all blocks below block depth -92 which should be game depth -1472.
22:39 OldCoder Landrush migrate is at 10%
22:39 Vazon mhmm that would just cut off one of my players that still players builds
22:39 OldCoder Might start other worlds without waiting for that one
22:39 OldCoder Vazon, the granularity is times 16
22:39 OldCoder If I do -93
22:40 OldCoder Might be -1486
22:40 OldCoder Would that be right?
22:40 OldCoder Understand...
22:40 Vazon yes i know and yes -93 should just make it
22:40 OldCoder the test is for *below* this number
22:40 OldCoder Where is the player at?
22:40 Vazon -1479 i belive
22:40 OldCoder Yes; then -93
22:40 OldCoder What do you have at -1500 ?
22:41 Vazon nothing there are just some publics mines that go the deep and that person has personal builds down there.
22:41 OldCoder No
22:41 OldCoder I mean, you
22:41 OldCoder What are we dropping at -1500?
22:41 OldCoder Out of curiosity
22:42 OldCoder Vazon, edit is done. (1) Answer above out of curiosity. (2) Upload new _game. (3) Test your world and see if it all worked. (4) I will then migrate you to LevelDB.
22:43 OldCoder Hm
22:43 OldCoder 40% of your map was down there
22:43 OldCoder Vazon, ^
22:43 Vazon ok, and we are droping that because there are many ores that because of mines that generate up higher but will not generate till like -10000 so i want that area regenerated
22:43 OldCoder What was so large down there? 40% of the size was there
22:44 Vazon OldCoder i seem to have a bunch of miners not builds xD
22:44 OldCoder Ah
22:44 OldCoder Minahs
22:44 OldCoder Very well
22:44 OldCoder Finish your _game
22:44 Vazon its almost done like another 5 min and i will start moving it to the ftp server
22:45 OldCoder Vazon, see PM
22:46 Vazon i did
22:49 OldCoder kkty
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23:22 ligeti goodnight all
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23:28 kaeza evenings
23:40 Eater4 OldCoder: how do I get minetest to run a script
23:40 Eater4 ??
23:41 OldCoder Eater4, Hi! Can you elaborate?
23:41 OldCoder You can write a mod
23:42 OldCoder In Lua
23:42 OldCoder It can do a number of things for you
23:42 Eater4 Nvm
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23:43 Vazon ok back
23:45 OldCoder Hang on
23:45 OldCoder Vazon, I have migrated your world to LevelDB
23:45 OldCoder And deleted the lower levels
23:45 OldCoder Wait
23:45 Vazon ok
23:47 OldCoder Damn
23:47 OldCoder Hang on
23:48 Vazon whats wrong?
23:48 OldCoder Not your world
23:48 OldCoder Wait
23:49 OldCoder Vazon, I terminated the Landrush migration by mistake I think. anyway enter your world but use a curl client.
23:52 Vazon ??? what is a curl client
23:52 ShadowBot Vazon: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:52 OldCoder Vazon, I lack the time to talk you through this. But curl is a standard feature these days. Some clients have it and some do not.
23:52 OldCoder Int he future
23:52 OldCoder In the future *
23:53 OldCoder All of the clients I build will have it
23:53 Vazon kk
23:53 OldCoder It is needed to solve network problems
23:54 Vazon ok

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