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00:22 Jordach SO QYUET,
00:22 Jordach so quiet even*
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00:35 * VanessaE wanders back in
00:35 LemonLake oi
00:35 LemonLake you
00:35 LemonLake get the hell outta my house
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00:43 Miner_48er is there a way to connect a fencelike to a nodeblock without changing drawtype?
00:48 VanessaE Miner_48er: nope.
00:48 VanessaE use the xfences mod.
00:48 VanessaE or whatever it's called
00:49 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2127
00:49 VanessaE (not sure if it still works)
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00:52 Jordach still does!
00:52 Jordach (i use it in BFD)
01:00 ShadowNinja It still works, but it has a few unknown node crash bugs.
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01:21 LemonLake Enke
01:21 LemonLake Did you connect to rtm's server?
01:22 Enke His IRC server?
01:22 LemonLake mhm
01:22 LemonLake because I just got a notify
01:22 Enke Yeah, I'm on insomnia.
01:22 LemonLake right now I'm updating the server software so its going up and down etc
01:22 Jordach suddenly:
01:22 Jordach black hats
01:22 Enke Okay.
01:22 LemonLake yes
01:22 LemonLake black hats
01:22 Enke *Poof!
01:24 Enke So, should I just disconnect from insomnia?
01:24 LemonLake if you wish
01:24 LemonLake I'll tell you when it's stable
01:24 LemonLake but it's mostly no restarts from now
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01:25 Jordach_ dafuq
01:25 Jordach_ dead client
01:25 Enke I'll go ahead and disconnect.
01:26 LemonLake ["You think you've stopped me? We'll be back." "We?" "Me....And my pink eye!"]
01:26 LemonLake love it
01:27 ShadowNinja What IRCd does it use?
01:27 Enke Thanks. :-)
01:27 LemonLake Switched to InspIRCd
01:28 Enke That supposed to be a play on the word 'inspired'?
01:28 LemonLake I think so.
01:30 ShadowNinja D-:
01:30 Enke ShadowNinja: why so sad?
01:36 Enke ShadowNinja: I keep getting this error while on your server. Is this a client problem or a server problem?ERROR[ConnectionSend: con(688/1448)RunTimeouts(): Peer 1 has timed out . (source=peer->timout_counter)
01:40 ShadowNinja Enke: Charydbis > inspIRCd  And you can ignore that error.
01:40 Enke Okay. I will. Thanks!
01:40 Enke :-)
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01:46 LemonLake Enke
01:46 LemonLake It's up
01:46 LemonLake and working :D
01:47 LemonLake There's most likely one restart remaining but it's not intrusive, you can join now
01:48 ShadowNinja Does inspIRCd have IFU?
01:49 LemonLake ifu?
01:49 ShadowNinja Tethys does, but it's far from ready.
01:49 ShadowNinja In-flight-upgrades.
01:49 LemonLake not sure
01:50 ShadowNinja /update and the server restarts without droping any connections.
01:50 LemonLake not sure
01:50 ShadowNinja So, no.  ;-)
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01:51 ShadowNinja How otherwise can a restart not be disruptive?
01:52 Enke Lemonlake: Do I just reenter the old network, or do I have to input a new one?
01:52 LemonLake Old one :)
01:54 Enke What channel do I join?
01:54 LemonLake main
01:57 * ShadowNinja throws around a link to http://inchra.net  /  irc://irc.inchra.net
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03:06 zat ShadowNinja: http://inchra.net/doku.php now it all makes sense!
03:06 Exio4 i need kmplot for windows
03:08 zat ShadowNinja: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwXjynpy8Ew
03:11 zat Uh Exio4, I want some tool that lets me design perlin noises.
03:12 Exio4 make it
03:13 zat I need such a tool to know how to make it.
03:17 zat Is there any documentation for minetest.register_biome?
03:17 blaaaaargh lua_api.txt
03:18 zat nothing there
03:18 zat ... blaaaaargh
03:19 blaaaaargh poke h_mmmm about that
03:20 VanessaE he considers mgv7 to be too unstable.
03:20 VanessaE that's why the biome stuff is undocumented and no minetest_game-suitable defaults exist.
03:20 VanessaE s/is/is not clearly/
03:21 zat not clearly undocumented?
03:21 VanessaE ("is not clearly undocumented"?  heh)
03:21 VanessaE I talk good english :)
03:21 zat me talks the english in good way too
03:21 VanessaE is not clearly documented, I meant.
03:21 VanessaE also hi
03:21 zat hi too also
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03:23 zat the thing is like... I am trying to “improve” (rather finally make) all the biomes
03:23 zat so people can finally use/test/whatever v7
03:24 zat but not many are like willing to really help
03:24 zat or paying attention here
03:24 zat you have any idea how this feels?
03:24 zat :(
03:24 * diemartin hugs zat
03:24 zat I am psychologically abandoned
03:24 zat emotionally impaired
03:25 zat afectionatellically affectated
03:25 zat massacrated
03:27 zat ok screw all this I am going to read the source code llolololollololololooollllllllol
03:27 diemartin have you tried turning it off and on again?
03:27 zat diemartin: I cannot suicide and unsuicide
03:28 zat anyhow I wouldn't be willing to try
03:28 diemartin also, try asking in #-dev :P
03:28 zat that channel is empty
03:28 zat OMFG I AM OP!!!!!!
03:28 diemartin :|
03:36 ShadowNinja zat: The main page is kind of boring.  A better one would be appreciated though.  :-)
03:36 zat ShadowNinja: is it made with PHP?
03:36 ShadowNinja zat: It uses dokuwiki, which is written in PHP.
03:37 ShadowNinja zat: Same as minetest.net.
03:37 zat Try phpinfo(); that will give you a bunch of info to populate the main page.
03:37 zat :D
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03:37 The_Beast Hey
03:37 ShadowNinja Uh...  That won't look nick.  :-P
03:37 ShadowNinja nice*
03:38 zat CSS fixes anything.
03:38 The_Beast Vanessa you there?
03:38 zat now we have CSS 3.0, that is very web 2.0 and super modern. You know, social media and new paradigms... ShadowNinja
03:38 ShadowNinja zat: Seriously though, some more good content would be appreciated.
03:39 VanessaE yes?
03:39 ShadowNinja I just chose a simple theme that looked decent.
03:40 The_Beast Vanessa i Broke my Mouse By Clicking so much
03:40 VanessaE sorr
03:40 VanessaE sorry
03:40 The_Beast Yeah
03:40 The_Beast I was playing minetest and i was crafting and it broke
03:41 VanessaE new mice are cheap enough
03:41 The_Beast Yeah i just went ahead and bought another RazorGear Mouse
03:42 The_Beast I only use my AlienWare mouse when i play other games
03:42 The_Beast Sorry i still have my alien ware one
03:42 The_Beast *alienware
03:48 Megaf LazyJ; You did well coming and playing with gold. Thanks :)
03:48 Megaf Hes a good boy
03:55 Megaf 15,14This is a test
03:56 Megaf 09,01Old school text
03:56 Megaf 09,01underline
03:57 Megaf 09,01italic
03:57 Megaf underline
04:00 VanessaE at least there's no blinking.
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04:07 ShadowNinja <marquee>Or this ;-)</marquee>
04:08 diemartin http://xkcd.com/1144/
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04:09 diemartin also, http://i.imgur.com/3oqJiyn.png :O
04:22 VanessaE diemartin: reminds me of Route 66 near Baxter Springs, KS
04:22 VanessaE (minus the water)
04:24 VanessaE no, strike that, not Baxter... might have been Miami, OK.
04:24 VanessaE been a long time since I was there, anyway
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04:42 rtm[damn] hi
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04:42 rtm[damn] the_beast: you're up late!
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06:50 Guy09 I'm back now guys
06:57 asie ls
06:57 asie wrong channel
06:57 asie or even window
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07:05 VanessaE 2013-12-30-0001-2013-12-30-0002.png  Images
07:05 VanessaE Android-related     Incoming
07:05 VanessaE AnimatedFire     inventory
07:05 VanessaE oh, wait...
07:05 VanessaE :)
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07:20 reactor Afternoon.
07:21 reactor kaeza's idle-kicking program definitely helps: freed half the server for active players.
07:23 reactor It would be good to have it shipped with the server.
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07:37 diemartin glad it helps :)
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07:49 Amaz Massive spam attack in general discussion on the forums...
07:51 diemartin what the
07:51 Amaz Yep.
07:52 Amaz And they're still coming...
07:55 diemartin where?
07:55 Amaz Or were.
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07:56 Amaz No, they've stoped.
07:56 diemartin ;)
07:56 Amaz That was a lot of spam...
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08:04 nman3600 hi
08:04 nman3600 markveidemanis someone stole my infinite fuel on your server
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08:21 sfan5 lol
08:23 * diemartin meows at sfan5
08:23 * sfan5 meows at diemartin
08:24 VanessaE morning sfan5
08:24 sfan5 mornin'
08:26 * nman3600 strokes sfan5
08:26 * sfan5 purrs
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08:51 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Make gui part of default 7e8bd04579 2014-06-01T10:49:50+02:00 http://git.io/qS-SMA
08:53 markveidemanis Hi nman3600
08:53 markveidemanis You shouldn't have infinite fuel
08:53 markveidemanis Idk how long ago you said that though
08:53 markveidemanis No way to set timestamp of incoming messages :(
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08:54 VanessaE 49 minutes ago.
08:54 VanessaE [06-01 04:04] <nman3600> markveidemanis someone stole my infinite fuel on your server
08:54 markveidemanis Okay
08:54 VanessaE [06-01 04:53] <markveidemanis> Idk how long ago you said that though
08:55 markveidemanis I need to enable timestamps
08:55 markveidemanis but they are spammy
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08:55 VanessaE naw, they stay out of the way, once you get used to having them visible they become quite useful.
08:55 markveidemanis [time1][timefromznc]
08:55 markveidemanis I mean, i have time enables
08:55 markveidemanis I just see the catchup messages all in less than a second
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09:01 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Make sure #160 cannot be exploited to make servers crash. e5896076fe 2014-06-01T11:00:39+02:00 http://git.io/X12WiQ
09:02 nman3600 markveidemanis i bought the infinite fuel
09:02 markveidemanis ah, okay
09:02 markveidemanis i gotta stop leaving stuff on my keyboard
09:03 markveidemanis Use locked fornace
09:04 nman3600 i have got one now it's just my infinite fuel is gone and i spent ages getting money for that
09:04 markveidemanis Right...
09:04 markveidemanis /money pay nman3600 4000
09:04 markveidemanis cept i used inc
09:04 markveidemanis How'd you get the money tho?
09:04 markveidemanis like, the legit way
09:04 nman3600 selling loads of dirt and cobble at spawn
09:05 markveidemanis Such wasteful
09:05 markveidemanis I need more shops
09:05 nman3600 yes you do
09:05 nman3600 selling dirt and cobble was hard to do
09:05 markveidemanis I'm a lazi admin...
09:05 markveidemanis I need irc mod too
09:05 markveidemanis So I can be even lazier
09:05 nman3600 yes
09:06 markveidemanis wut ya saying yea to?
09:06 nman3600 you need the IRC mod
09:06 markveidemanis :P
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09:06 markveidemanis Lemme do my english HW
09:07 nman3600 38 textures in my texture pack so far..
09:07 asie nman3600: pics?
09:08 markveidemanis Hey nman3600, I'll give you creative+noclip+fly temporarily if you make me shope
09:08 markveidemanis shops
09:08 nman3600 markveidemanis i'm planning on making a drink / food shop
09:08 reactor It would be nice if Worldedit added numeric aliases for blocks.
09:08 markveidemanis True
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09:09 markveidemanis That'd be great
09:09 reactor Because it takes ages to type out "homedecor:door_blablabla_blablabla"
09:09 markveidemanis Yeah
09:09 markveidemanis Why you be worldeditiing doors?
09:10 nman3600 asie  http://imgur.com/dfaJbRj         it's still WIP so some textures aren't finished yet
09:12 nman3600 my fave texture in my texture pack so far is the bookshelf
09:12 markveidemanis make it a nodebox
09:12 reactor Well, also /giveme
09:12 markveidemanis Actually...
09:12 markveidemanis nvm
09:12 * markveidemanis didn't think
09:12 reactor /giveme homedecor:door_blablabla
09:12 nman3600 it's a texture pack markveidemanis
09:13 markveidemanis :) thought so
09:13 markveidemanis i know that now
09:13 nman3600 not a mod
09:13 reactor But I'd be worldediting, say, slabs or shingles.
09:13 markveidemanis yeah, that's always a pain
09:13 reactor Or glass desk panes: they make nice windows.
09:13 markveidemanis shingles??
09:13 reactor Yes, from homedecor.
09:13 markveidemanis Like, sloped?
09:13 nman3600 yes sloped roofing is what i like to call it
09:13 reactor Like asphalt they put on the roof.
09:13 reactor Or that.
09:13 reactor Yes.
09:13 markveidemanis how>>
09:14 whiskers75 <3 ShadowBot
09:14 ShadowBot 04♥ whiskers75.
09:14 markveidemanis 1337 is cool
09:14 whiskers75 (just for testing notice)
09:15 nman3600 <3 ShadowBot
09:15 ShadowBot 04♥ nman3600.
09:15 nman3600 lol
09:15 markveidemanis |-|3|_|_o
09:17 markveidemanis $#@|| | $@eyy #0w 7#r\|| quy0|_| |_00|< T0|]Aey
09:17 markveidemanis much better than hex or sha
09:17 markveidemanis and md5
09:19 nman3600 mark why's your server down?
09:20 nman3600 markveidemanis why is it?
09:23 reactor Well I've just crashed the server by typing "//stack z 10//2"
09:23 reactor Why not introduce sanity checks to catch such typos?!
09:24 nman3600 lol
09:25 reactor Well, //stack -4 also crashes it.
09:25 reactor Although saying "invalid usage" before doing so.
09:25 reactor This is like pre-Internet days of UNIX.
09:26 CraigyDavi It's june. That means it's summer, aparently.
09:26 CraigyDavi Not getting any signs of summer here.
09:28 nman3600 meh on and off with rain where i am
09:28 markveidemanis dafuk
09:29 nman3600 ?
09:29 markveidemanis 05:04:43: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ...minetest/bin/../games/marktwa​in_game/mods/money/init.lua:150: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'amount' (a nil value)
09:29 markveidemanis Second crash, deleting money mod
09:29 nman3600 what you're deleting it?
09:30 CraigyDavi Why? Crashes happen on mods...
09:30 CraigyDavi I hardly ever get crashes caused by the money mod, although there is a bug with it where you cna easily shutdown the server
09:30 VanessaE markveidemanis: use DanDuncombe's currency mod.   https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7002
09:30 VanessaE it's always been stable fo rme.
09:30 VanessaE for me*
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09:31 markveidemanis alright
09:31 markveidemanis Thanks
09:31 * VanessaE pokes Jordach...for no particular reason.
09:31 * Jordach grumbles at VanessaE
09:31 Jordach i wasn't allowed to sleep in past 1pm
09:31 reactor CraigyDavi: it was summer all along during exams.
09:31 VanessaE sorry to hear :(
09:31 reactor And credit tests.
09:31 VanessaE I know the feeling all too well
09:32 VanessaE insomnia sucks
09:32 reactor Now it's as cold as open space.
09:32 CraigyDavi Mhm
09:32 reactor No rain, but too damn cold.
09:32 CraigyDavi markveidemanis, Krock's bitcoin mod is good too
09:32 markveidemanis VanessaE, Does it need privs?
09:32 reactor Cold for no reason. No clouds, a lot of light.
09:33 Krock I got a highlight
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09:33 VanessaE markveidemanis: afaik, no.
09:33 VanessaE it just works.,
09:33 markveidemanis ok
09:34 markveidemanis and how do I revoke 'money' from everyone now
09:34 Krock markveidemanis, open auth.txt
09:34 markveidemanis Grr screw that
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09:35 Krock replace "money,", ""
09:35 Krock replace "money", ""
09:35 Krock those and it should beremoved
09:35 markveidemanis ok
09:35 markveidemanis as long as it doesn't give them any admin privs
09:36 Krock zip the original file
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09:45 markveidemanis |v|I|\|3+35+ i5 8u|_|_5|-|I+
09:47 markveidemanis PilzAdam is on 4000 posts exactly
09:47 nman3600 ikr
09:47 markveidemanis He didn't notice!
09:48 nman3600 check off-topic
09:48 nman3600 there's a post by PilzAdam called 4000
09:48 nman3600 markveidemanis: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=17&amp;t=9338
09:51 markveidemanis well
09:51 markveidemanis He took it too far
09:51 nman3600 markveidemanis did you give me creative?
09:51 markveidemanis Let me finish my English homework!
09:51 nman3600 ok
09:51 markveidemanis I really can't be arsed... :(
09:52 VanessaE mark:  sed -i "s/money,//; s/,money//" /path/to/your/auth.txt
09:52 VanessaE if you use linux anyway
09:52 markveidemanis Okay
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09:52 markveidemanis What's the authreload command?
09:53 VanessaE /auth_reload
09:53 markveidemanis underscore, on
09:53 markveidemanis *ok
09:54 markveidemanis First I'll say why the wroter of october uses similes to express his bullshit
09:54 markveidemanis Write 1 page, 1 paragraph when typed up
09:54 Calinou “my karma went down! call 911!”
09:55 * markveidemanis calls 112
09:58 * markveidemanis uses a bigger font
10:01 nman3600 CraigyDavi I called 911 and they told me to shut up and don't prank call them
10:03 markveidemanis plol
10:03 markveidemanis I called 911 and ordered a pizza
10:03 CraigyDavi You only got told that?
10:04 Calinou I didn't tell you to do so
10:04 CraigyDavi In England, if you prank call 999 you can get fined and stuff.
10:05 nman3600 ik i am in england i didn;t actually call them
10:05 Calinou CraigyDavi, in all countries…
10:06 CraigyDavi nman3600, Then why did you say 991, and why did you say you did? lol
10:06 nman3600 i was joking around
10:06 CraigyDavi A I see
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10:26 markveidemanis Is there a creative interface thing for inventory++ ?
10:27 RealBadAngel there is one for UI
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10:27 markveidemanis I'm using Inventory++, UI lagged my server
10:28 LemonLake how can UI lag your server?
10:28 RealBadAngel by showing the items
10:28 markveidemanis yes
10:28 LemonLake hm
10:28 markveidemanis And the creativeinv one i use is worse
10:28 RealBadAngel if preload item visuals was turned off it demands them to be done
10:29 RealBadAngel but that is called just once
10:29 markveidemanis If does that thing even though preload is on
10:29 RealBadAngel so the lag can happen once
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10:29 RealBadAngel rly? thats rather not possible
10:33 Calinou added more awards to Carbone
10:36 whiskers75 Calinou: awards?
10:36 Calinou achievements
10:37 markveidemanis RealBadAngel, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7801
10:37 Calinou it's ugly :'(
10:37 Calinou terribly ugly
10:37 Calinou very cluttered
10:38 markveidemanis RealBadAngel, Loads just over half, stutters, does the other half
10:39 Calinou my Debian bug got closed :D I reported a typo in a package description
10:39 RealBadAngel can you try and show how UI behaves on that server?
10:39 RealBadAngel or better, please do install it there and i will join and see
10:40 markveidemanis I had it installed
10:41 markveidemanis worked absolutely fine
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10:54 markveidemanis hey RealBadAngel
10:54 markveidemanis Is it easy to assign an inventory to a button in inventory++?
10:56 markveidemanis Inventory++ & extended https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=48074
10:57 VanessaE ompldr link == dead.
10:58 VanessaE though at least some of the code is there.
10:58 markveidemanis That's all of the code
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10:59 LemonLake oh hey it's june
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10:59 VanessaE yup
10:59 LemonLake um
10:59 LemonLake there was an image on that forum post a min ago
11:00 LemonLake where did it go?
11:00 LemonLake nvm im just dumb
11:01 reactor "people don't cry because they're stupid"
11:03 LemonLake some do
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11:06 markveidemanis So would that be possible?
11:06 markveidemanis As an inventory++ extension
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11:35 RealBadAngel markveidemanis, idk how its done in inv++, in UI it is quite simple
11:36 LemonLake How can I get the player an item is pointing at onUse?
11:36 sapier LemonLake: read the wield item
11:37 LemonLake ...?
11:37 markveidemanis You register a button and show a formspec
11:37 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unifie​d_inventory/blob/master/waypoints.lua#L10
11:37 markveidemanis It's still past me though
11:37 LemonLake oh wait
11:37 markveidemanis I++ is like that i think
11:37 LemonLake pointed_thing.type=="object"
11:37 LemonLake if pointed_thing.ref:is_player() then
11:37 LemonLake etc etc
11:37 LemonLake ?
11:38 RealBadAngel yes
11:38 RealBadAngel you have same code in item_drop for example
11:38 RealBadAngel it checks if object is not a player or whatever
11:38 markveidemanis https://github.com/Zeg9/minetes​t-zcg/blob/master/zcg/init.lua
11:39 RealBadAngel https://github.com/PilzAdam/ite​m_drop/blob/master/init.lua#L8
11:40 LemonLake ah
11:41 PenguinDad https://cdn.mediacru.sh/roYWQaO65n0-.png progress on my ogg player mod
11:41 PenguinDad err wrong link https://cdn.mediacru.sh/1IYzm57Jk6Be.png
11:42 LemonLake I'm quite happy though
11:42 LemonLake I've actually gathered the motivation to properly code this project again
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11:42 LemonLake http://pastebin.com/ZcedFQUa
11:42 LemonLake Like that?
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11:43 markveidemanis What could make so much lag?
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11:43 markveidemanis in the creativeinv thing
11:43 LemonLake having lots of mods
11:44 markveidemanis There's inventory++, zcg, skins and the creative thing
11:44 markveidemanis Maybe I'll have a go
11:50 VanessaE just use Unified Inventory
11:50 markveidemanis Nope
11:50 VanessaE it's the best one.
11:50 markveidemanis Too bloated
11:50 LemonLake Too bloated?
11:50 VanessaE bloated?
11:50 VanessaE how so?
11:50 LemonLake ^
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11:51 VanessaE that slowness you complained about comes from client-side rendering issues, not server-side code.
11:51 VanessaE no amount of code changes in the mod can speed that up
11:51 VanessaE short of displaying fewer items per page
11:51 VanessaE and that doesn't fix the client.
11:51 LemonLake Anyway, the less mods you have installed, the less items to load
11:52 LemonLake markveidemanis: If they all don't work or are too bloated, make your own
11:53 LemonLake No amount of modifying a mod's code is going to speed it up the way you want it to
11:53 kahrl be glad that the engine renders all the cubes to textures once, and not once every frame ;)
11:54 LemonLake ^
11:54 asie i'm thinking of coming back to minetest modding
11:54 LemonLake You should :D
11:55 VanessaE kahrl: hopefully RealBadAngel's plan to remove render-to-texture entirely will be successful :)
11:55 VanessaE asie: cool
11:56 VanessaE kahrl: in the meantime <nag> you really should add your disable extrude patch as an official option (configurable in minetest.conf or something) </nag>  ;)
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11:58 nman3600 well infinite fuels don't work
11:58 nman3600 hi
11:58 LemonLake Hello nman3600
11:59 LemonLake Infinite fuels?
11:59 nman3600 it's from a mod
11:59 LemonLake Which?
11:59 nman3600 wait it does work but not well
11:59 nman3600 umm amt i think
11:59 nman3600 admin tools
11:59 RealBadAngel asie, you definitely should, all your mods are already in technic_game 2.0
11:59 asie RealBadAngel: all of them? wow, i have missed tihngs
11:59 nman3600 anyway i've got my new fave mod
12:00 RealBadAngel theyre good ones and fit technic style
12:00 RealBadAngel so why not? :)
12:00 asie heh
12:01 LemonLake nman3600: I'm adding kill counts now
12:01 RealBadAngel btw, i was about to ask you what do you think about mergeing code
12:01 nman3600 k LemonLake
12:01 LemonLake nman3600: There will be a kill counter for each team in the bottom left, and a scoreboard soon too
12:01 RealBadAngel there was a discussion about it lately
12:01 LemonLake Does anyone know if I can use a key, i.e tab, to show a hud or somethin?
12:01 RealBadAngel f3?
12:02 markveidemanis nman3600, It's originally from MapTools
12:02 markveidemanis infinite fuel
12:02 nman3600 ok markveidemanis
12:02 RealBadAngel asie, have you tried it?
12:02 asie RealBadAngel: not yet
12:03 RealBadAngel so grab current dev
12:03 RealBadAngel item entities do behave way different now
12:04 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnwk5XZ6DQE
12:05 LemonLake What's aux1 in get_player_control?
12:05 Krock E
12:05 LemonLake ah
12:05 LemonLake are there any more keys in that function than said on the wiki?
12:07 RealBadAngel qood question LemonLake
12:07 LemonLake Does it have a good answer?
12:07 RealBadAngel not to mention thats my code ;)
12:08 LemonLake So can I use more keys than mentioned?
12:08 RealBadAngel not really
12:08 LemonLake damnit
12:08 LemonLake what key would you recommend for a scoreboard then?
12:08 LemonLake I'm thinking aux1
12:08 markveidemanis oh god this is rediculously easy
12:09 RealBadAngel i will make mt read whole keyboard and report presses to the mods
12:09 LemonLake :DD
12:09 RealBadAngel mods need that
12:09 LemonLake Can you tell me when that's in the game?
12:09 LemonLake I'll recompile just for that
12:10 RealBadAngel not today for sure, but its on my todo list
12:10 LemonLake Awesome
12:10 LemonLake Until then I'll just use aux1
12:11 nman3600 markveidemanis does it give me some money every 5 minutes or something?
12:11 markveidemanis dafuk
12:11 markveidemanis err...
12:11 markveidemanis I hope not
12:12 nman3600 idk i'm getting money every now and then
12:12 nman3600 idk if it's from when i'm doing things
12:14 nman3600 markveidemanis i think it's from when i'm doing things like farming and chopping trees
12:14 markveidemanis ah, that'll be okay
12:14 markveidemanis Is server laggy?
12:14 VanessaE which mod?  dan's currency?
12:14 nman3600 no
12:14 nman3600 yes
12:14 markveidemanis good
12:14 nman3600 dan's currency and it's not laggy mark
12:15 VanessaE it gives you a payment every in-game day, if you're digging or building on that day.  your base salary, essentially.
12:15 markveidemanis Bastard only lags when i'm on
12:15 VanessaE afaik you can configure that behavior
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12:50 nman3600 markveidemanis there's a bit of my farm that i can't build in
13:03 * markveidemanis deletes 132600 nodes with 256MB of ram
13:03 LemonLake why so little ram?
13:03 LemonLake you're running a god damn server
13:04 CraigyDavi And I thought my 6gb was too little :O
13:04 * sfan5 meows at CraigyDavi
13:05 * CraigyDavi purrs at sfan5
13:06 markveidemanis Octa-Core and 3.5Ghz makes up for it
13:08 CraigyDavi Not really, you can't do much with that amount of ram
13:08 markveidemanis :(
13:09 CraigyDavi :?
13:09 CraigyDavi :>
13:09 CraigyDavi :}
13:10 markveidemanis |\|0 c|-/-\|fuck 1337
13:11 LemonLake what
13:12 markveidemanis I need a mod
13:12 LemonLake For what?
13:12 markveidemanis Creative
13:12 Krock u_inf.
13:12 LemonLake What kind of creative do you need?
13:13 LemonLake If it's creative inventory, try unified_inventory
13:13 markveidemanis creativeinv + inventory_plus + creativechanger + bettercreative(my mod)
13:13 markveidemanis Admin kind
13:13 markveidemanis Really fast and uncluttered
13:13 LemonLake unified_inventory is as fast and uncluttered as you're going to get
13:14 Krock it also works perfectly with some u_skins mod
13:14 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5424
13:14 LemonLake Why don't you use that then?
13:14 markveidemanis Incorporate this into inventory_plus and I'll be set
13:14 markveidemanis also fix crashes
13:15 LemonLake We're not here to make mods for you
13:15 LemonLake We're here to help you make them
13:15 markveidemanis Well i tried
13:15 LemonLake What's the problem?
13:16 markveidemanis I got everything done except searching for privs then making a button appear
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13:16 LemonLake How about having the button always appear but only do the action IF the player has privs?
13:16 markveidemanis Yeah that
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13:17 LemonLake Then use this to get the privs: http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_player_privs
13:17 LemonLake if minetest.get_player_privs(play​er:get_player_name()).creative then
13:17 markveidemanis Ok
13:17 markveidemanis Idk the API for inventory++
13:17 LemonLake Let me have a look
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13:30 LemonLake Inventory is badly scaled for me
13:31 markveidemanis What's your screen resolution?
13:31 LemonLake Wrong chan.
13:31 LemonLake I'm testing the android vers
13:34 markveidemanis I still want to know your resolution now
13:34 CraigyDavi Anyone know if it is possible to set clients to not preload item visuals? Only idea I have is to do this: https://gist.github.com/Crai​gyDavi/bd3536674ac588643df0
13:34 CraigyDavi But would that work on a server?
13:35 LemonLake markveidemanis: monitor 1 is 1920x1080, monitor 2 is 1600x1200 and monitor 3 is 1280x720
13:35 Krock CraigyDavi, that sets the settings of the MT where the lua script runs on
13:36 CraigyDavi Ah thought so
13:36 CraigyDavi I'll just tell people to disable prload item visuals then
13:39 markveidemanis LemonLake, You are lucks, 3 monitors
13:39 markveidemanis I have 2 but can only connect one :(
13:39 LemonLake My third monitor is actually an android
13:40 markveidemanis Nothing special then, I have the app too
13:40 markveidemanis Crashed windows 8 beyond repair
13:40 LemonLake The app?
13:40 LemonLake I didn't use an app
13:40 markveidemanis Wut
13:41 LemonLake I used a VDM on the OS and All-Share Cast on android
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13:41 LemonLake which is part of the OS
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13:59 Jordach CraigyDavi, that only sets it for the serevr
14:00 Jordach server* :P
14:00 CraigyDavi Yup
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14:17 * markveidemanis is adding the irc mod to a server with only 256MB of ram
14:18 LemonLake mark
14:18 LemonLake thats not many rams
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14:21 markveidemanis I can't seem to get irc mod
14:21 markveidemanis pacman -S lua51-socket
14:21 markveidemanis no display possible
14:23 LemonLake Mark
14:23 LemonLake What distro are you on?
14:23 asie LemonLake: he's on Arch I guess
14:23 markveidemanis Debian!
14:23 LemonLake asie: Not necessarily. Knowing this guy he didn't realise that the example was for Arch only.
14:23 asie markveidemanis: what
14:23 markveidemanis oops
14:23 asie LemonLake: but he said "pacman -S lua51-socket"
14:23 LemonLake Ye.s
14:23 LemonLake Because that's what the page said.
14:23 LemonLake But he didn't read.
14:23 asie ._'
14:23 markveidemanis crap
14:23 LemonLake "The Minetest IRC mod also requires LuaSocket. This can be installed using your package manager on many distributions, for example on Arch Linux:"
14:24 LemonLake Below is said command.
14:24 LemonLake But he didn't read the line.
14:24 markveidemanis E: Unable to locate package lua51-socket
14:24 Megaf Dat feeling when you try to join your own server and you get "Wrong Password"
14:24 LemonLake https://packages.debian.org/sid/lua-socket
14:25 markveidemanis lua-socket
14:25 markveidemanis yeah
14:25 asie LemonLake: I bet he's not on Sid
14:25 markveidemanis It works
14:25 markveidemanis I hope
14:26 markveidemanis It doesn't work...
14:27 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/pastes/9247378/text
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14:31 LemonLake well done
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14:31 LemonLake you dont know how to set up a module in lua
14:31 Krock markveidemanis, put socket.lua where the init file is
14:31 LemonLake ^
14:32 markveidemanis where's socket.lua?
14:32 LemonLake Do you even read your error logs?
14:32 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR2qjvsqNSk
14:32 LemonLake omg that song
14:33 LemonLake markveidemanis: Try looking in the place lua-socket was installed.
14:33 Krock markveidemanis, search engine (not google) is your help
14:33 LemonLake LOGIC.
14:33 LemonLake I think it's depressing nowadays how users go to Linux thinking it makes them look cool and they nether bother to learn how to actually use it
14:34 markveidemanis Lua is just shit
14:34 LemonLake And instead rely on an IRC channel to do EVERYTHING for them
14:34 Krock markveidemanis, same with linux sometimes
14:34 LemonLake No markveidemanis, I think you just don't know how to follow instructions.
14:35 Krock hands up - Baby hands up - gimme your heart, heart - gimme gimme
14:35 LemonLake hands up
14:35 LemonLake baby, hands up
14:35 LemonLake gimme your heart heart gimme gimme
14:36 LemonLake awesome song
14:36 Krock ^
14:36 Krock yeah
14:36 Krock but it contains not much text
14:36 LemonLake the lyrics are repetitive
14:36 LemonLake but its still a classic
14:36 Krock spaghetticode ftw!
14:36 LemonLake woo
14:37 Krock goto baby_hands_up;
14:37 markveidemanis ah fuck, there's an ubuntu build
14:37 Krock haha
14:38 Krock depressing music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0vs1fhhNI
14:39 Krock MC version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5fd4YxjPL0
14:40 LemonLake Ever heard Scissor Sisters - I Can't Decide?
14:40 Krock I can't decide
14:40 Krock between yes and no
14:40 markveidemanis FUCK same error
14:40 LemonLake markveidemanis:
14:40 markveidemanis Where the hell is luasocket?
14:41 Krock language
14:41 LemonLake Did you put the file...where init.lua is??
14:41 LemonLake Like we said?
14:41 markveidemanis theres libluasocket.so
14:41 LemonLake http://w3.impa.br/~diego/software/luasocket/
14:41 LemonLake first result in google
14:41 markveidemanis and socket/lua
14:41 LemonLake you need to get lua socket
14:41 LemonLake markveidemanis: use your brain
14:41 LemonLake it's not hard
14:43 LemonLake markveidemanis: I'm looking at socket.lua right now
14:43 markveidemanis me too
14:43 markveidemanis It's there
14:43 LemonLake Good. Place that with init.lua
14:43 markveidemanis done
14:43 LemonLake Now run.
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14:44 markveidemanis 10:43:53: ERROR[main]:  no file '/usr/local/share/luajit-2.0.3/irc.lua'
14:44 markveidemanis I use LuaJIT if that's helpful
14:44 Krock wrong folder name?
14:44 LemonLake ^
14:48 * markveidemanis forgot to install lua
14:49 LemonLake I don't even know how to react to that.
14:49 LemonLake But I did instinctively react by throwing my head to the wall.
14:49 LemonLake So congratulations, you just gave me a pounding headache.
14:49 markveidemanis It's okay, it didn't fix it
14:49 LemonLake Of course it didn't.
14:50 markveidemanis /usr/local/share/lua/5.1 is empty
14:51 LemonLake Then put stuff in it.
14:51 LemonLake <LemonLake> LOGIC.
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14:57 markveidemanis I made progress
14:57 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9247454
14:58 markveidemanis changed to paths of luajit and it worked
14:58 markveidemanis But now it throws something else at me
14:58 Krock get lua.so
14:59 LemonLake what he said
14:59 rubenwardy Hi all!
14:59 markveidemanis is libluajit-5.1.so good?
14:59 w_laenger hi
14:59 LemonLake Good day rubenwardy!
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15:04 markveidemanis I need luairc
15:04 LemonLake Why do you /need/ it?
15:04 markveidemanis local irc = require('irc')
15:05 LemonLake irc, I mean
15:05 markveidemanis Or am i missing more crap?
15:05 LemonLake Well
15:05 LemonLake Did you read the instructions for minetest-irc?
15:05 * Jordach meows at sfan5
15:05 LemonLake I don't think you did.
15:06 markveidemanis I read them
15:06 markveidemanis I use LuaJIT, this is the issue
15:06 LemonLake Also, if you'd looked at it, you'd realise that you need LuaIRC.
15:06 LemonLake https://github.com/ShadowNinja/LuaIRC
15:06 markveidemanis Also bundled lua iirc
15:06 LemonLake And mark, why do you need an IRC anyway?
15:07 markveidemanis The mod as a whole?
15:07 LemonLake Yea
15:07 markveidemanis I think it'd be useful...
15:07 LemonLake Think properly before you get a mod, have a million retarded issues and then post every single error you get here before you actually read it and figure out how to solve it yourself
15:11 markveidemanis 11:10:25: ERROR[main]:  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /opt/minetest/bin/../games/marktwa​in_game/mods/irc/libluasocket.so)
15:11 rubenwardy Well said
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15:11 LemonLake What do you think you need to do, markveidemanis ?
15:11 LemonLake Read it before you paste.
15:12 LemonLake Are the clouds randomly generated, or are they an image file?
15:13 rubenwardy wtf?
15:13 LemonLake Hmm?
15:14 markveidemanis After this operation, 1922 MB of additional disk space will be used.
15:15 markveidemanis After this operation, 41.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
15:15 markveidemanis better
15:15 markveidemanis apt-get doesn't like wildcards
15:17 LemonLake Hmm
15:17 LemonLake I think I'm gonna add ponds to the worldgen
15:20 LemonLake Krock: Does your worldgen have ponds?
15:21 Krock LemonLake, would you call the ocean a pond?
15:21 LemonLake No.
15:21 LemonLake By a pond I mean a pond.
15:21 Krock hmm nope
15:22 Krock there was a mod for it by paramat
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15:22 LemonLake ugh
15:22 LemonLake if there's one thing I hate about phpBB it's the lack of a 'view topics' feature
15:22 Krock and with some hours of work I could add it too
15:23 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9296
15:24 LemonLake gotta admit, that's pretty damn epic
15:24 LemonLake you could generate one of those worlds and start an entire RP on that
15:25 LemonLake omg paramat has so much talent with worldgens!!
15:26 LemonLake Paragenv7 looks like it has ponds
15:26 Krock every additional feature requires much math.random or anotherperlin noise
15:26 LemonLake WTFPL, don't mind if I nab that...
15:26 LemonLake Yep
15:27 LemonLake But the spherical worldgens is just epic
15:27 Krock nah
15:27 Krock not compatible tothe flat map style by default
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15:41 diemartin mornings
15:41 Jordach diemartin, /nick kazea
15:41 Jordach diemartin, /nick kaeza
15:41 Jordach dammit ;D
15:41 diemartin Jordach, ok
15:41 diemartin Jordach, ok
15:42 kaeza :)
15:43 LemonLake omfg
15:44 LemonLake I hate adobe so much
15:44 LemonLake Instead of telling me my system isn't supported, they just give me a fake 'We're having issues' error
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15:47 nman3600 hi
15:47 nman3600 i wish there was like an automatic animated texture maker for minetest cuz i'm lazy to make lava animated textures
15:48 Krock Agh... this song follows me
15:48 Krock hands up - baby hands up - lala
15:50 nman3600 k looks like i have to make it myself agh
15:51 markveidemanis 11:49:47: ERROR[main]: ...t/bin/../games/marktwain_game​/mods/irc_commands/init.lua:14: attempt to call method 'register_hook' (a nil value)
15:51 LemonLake well its not like someone has made a tool that can generate 12 lava textures in a million different styles, is it?
15:52 nman3600 true
15:52 Krock kaeza, markveidemanis needs you
15:52 markveidemanis It's ubuntu one
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16:01 markveidemanis !up atomicon.tk
16:01 markveidemanis ~up atomicon.tk
16:01 ShadowBot markveidemanis: atomicon.tk port 30000 is up (2759ms)
16:01 markveidemanis holy shit
16:01 markveidemanis That is some ping
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16:02 markveidemanis ~up atomicon.tk
16:02 ShadowBot markveidemanis: atomicon.tk port 30000 is up (364ms)
16:02 Calinou hi
16:02 LemonLake hell
16:02 LemonLake fucking
16:02 LemonLake yeah
16:02 LemonLake I just got photoshop to work on Linux
16:02 ShadowNinja Haha.  May just be the bot.  SB should get gigabit internet seom time soon, but for now it isn't terribly fast.
16:03 LemonLake Wine does work...very well actually
16:03 LemonLake it's just complicated to get it workING
16:05 Krock hi Calinou
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16:05 PenguinDad MinetestBot!
16:05 MinetestBot PenguinDad!
16:08 Jordach >complicated to get it working
16:08 Jordach I setup WINE in a few minutes and got working right away
16:25 Calinou I made a pretty leaves texture in 1 minute
16:25 Calinou \o/
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16:32 Krock Calinou, picture or it didn't happen
16:33 kaeza markveidemanis, it works fine here
16:33 kaeza (irc / irc_commands)
16:35 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/hQM3DJ8_RF5H.jpg
16:35 Calinou what do you think, compared to default?
16:35 Calinou I'll probably commit this
16:35 Calinou (also has new grass)
16:35 Calinou brightened the 3D grass to fit (not on screenshot)
16:35 markveidemanis kaeza, Works now
16:35 kaeza how does it look without fancy leaves?
16:36 * Calinou is adding other-player breath bars to Carbone
16:36 Calinou found a simple way to make them
16:36 Calinou (doesn't need additional entity)
16:36 PilzAdam Calinou, this "I need to be different from default so I have different textures"-syndrome of mt_game clones is really getting a thing
16:37 Calinou PilzAdam, I aim to make them better
16:37 Calinou not just “different”
16:37 Calinou it's not like I have changed all the textures
16:37 PilzAdam so we have the neon grass of mt+ (or _next?) and the yellow trees from carbone now
16:38 Krock Calinou, yeah. they're better than default
16:41 BlockMen PilzAdam, the grass is mt+ is longer time not neon anymore
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16:42 BlockMen and maybe other games use different textures is caused by the fact that the default textures are crap?!
16:42 * Jordach is pissed off again
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16:43 Jordach so Winamp crashes on attempting to play one track i have - but Windows Media Player does it fine
16:43 PenguinDad these leaves looks worse than the ones from minetest_game
16:45 BlockMen PenguinDad: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ya​bhsx3j4m1x1fq/screenshot_449070753.png :)
16:45 Calinou Krock, I'll make leaves a bit greener, and will test without fancy leaves
16:45 VanessaE PenguinDad: what leaves?
16:45 Krock Calinou, also test with plantlike leaves :)
16:45 VanessaE Krock: see Realtest.  plantlike leaves.
16:46 PenguinDad VanessaE: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/hQM3DJ8_RF5H.jpg
16:46 Krock VanessaE, I know them
16:46 * BlockMen doesnt like plantlike leaves
16:46 * Krock likes them
16:47 PilzAdam plantlike leaves: look from the top and the tree is gone!
16:47 BlockMen ^ that
16:47 BlockMen or see sky through trees
16:48 * PenguinDad likes glasslike leaves
16:49 Krock tree is gone??
16:49 * kaeza would like to see an MC-like plantlike
16:49 * kaeza hides
16:49 VanessaE easily done.
16:49 kaeza err... I mean like the crops are drawn
16:50 PenguinDad Krock: what do you mean?
16:50 VanessaE four flat nodeboxes positioned 3 pixels in from each X and Z face right?
16:50 Krock <PilzAdam>plantlike leaves: look from the top and the tree is gone!
16:50 VanessaE s/flat/2d/
16:50 Krock huh?
16:50 BlockMen i wont touch drawtypes anymore
16:50 BlockMen there is a strange behavior around here when it comes to improve things
16:50 VanessaE (problem with those is they won't react to the waving shader)
16:50 VanessaE BlockMen: your change would break many modpacks and some games.
16:51 VanessaE er many texture packs I mean
16:51 BlockMen VanessaE, also easy to add (waving)
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16:51 BlockMen and i dont continue the discussion, most agree with you, i dont ;)
16:51 VanessaE BlockMen: and the general consensus was "sure, add it -- as a separate drawtype."
16:51 Piggybear87 http://tinypic.com/r/2eq8jft/8 My inventory textures... Only the cube shaped... Please, SOMEONE, help me figure this out...
16:52 Jordach TIL i prefer windows media player to winamp (the media auto tag actually works and gets album art right)
16:52 PilzAdam BlockMen, add support for non boxy nodebox drawtypes
16:52 kaeza ^
16:52 VanessaE Piggybear87: turn off preload item visuals.  see what that does.
16:52 Piggybear87 It is off...
16:52 BlockMen support for what?
16:52 kaeza and rotated collision boxes!
16:52 * kaeza runs
16:53 PilzAdam just define the vertice in nodedef; it would make all other drawtypes obsolete
16:53 PilzAdam +s
16:53 * BlockMen likes drawtypes
16:53 VanessaE kahrl: didn't I suggest rotated nodeboxes over a year ago? :P
16:53 VanessaE BlockMen: your change if committed as-is would break Nostalgia game and every texture pack in existence.
16:54 PilzAdam VanessaE, too late, that idea is now (R) (TM) and (C) by PilzAdam ;-)
16:54 BlockMen ^ you mean your tp and 1 or 2 other
16:54 VanessaE BlockMen: no.  EVERY texture pack.
16:54 BlockMen VanessaE, most apply fine
16:55 Piggybear87 The only thing that's checked is "opaque water". This problem only happens in the inventory. Once it's placed, it's fine. Texture packs don't help. Maybe it's the drawtype?
16:55 VanessaE because all of them define some kind of custom torch, and in most of them, the torch will be tapered from one end to the other in a manner similar to how HDX is, if the texture is > 16 pixels.
16:55 VanessaE PilzAdam: heh
16:55 BlockMen do what you want, i wont touch the torches anymore
16:56 VanessaE damn it tab complete FAIl again (a/kahrl/kaeza/)
16:56 VanessaE BlockMen: why can't you just make it a separate draw type?  what's wrong with that idea?
16:56 VanessaE oh I give up, I can NOT type today :P
16:58 BlockMen VanessaE, because i dont see a reason to keep old, ugly torches just for a few incompatible tps
16:58 Piggybear87 http://tinypic.com/r/2yy59g1/8 And this is my sky, I'm not too worried about this, but it still sucks.
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17:02 VanessaE BlockMen: what about when "old ugly torches" are not even torches but something like a nice-looking oil lamp?
17:02 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/h​obbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20​-%2006012014%20-%2001%3a04%3a35%20PM.png
17:03 VanessaE how do you cover this use case?
17:03 VanessaE this is not a texture pack, this is a game.
17:03 BlockMen game=mods=make a new node for that special case
17:04 BlockMen oil lamps != torch
17:04 VanessaE oil lamps use the torch-on-ceiling.
17:04 BlockMen thats why torchlike is not the right drawtype for that
17:04 VanessaE it's impossible to make a new node
17:05 VanessaE torches don't have separate node defs for ceiling/floor/wall
17:05 VanessaE (well not entirely impossible, it would need an ABM to convert it)
17:06 BlockMen its doable (see my torches mod)
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17:07 VanessaE plus the wall torches are designed, in this game, to look like they're fastened to the wall by a small metal band
17:07 VanessaE arguably those can be replaced with a flat nodebox
17:08 VanessaE the ones on the ground can't, neither can the ceiling ones, because both are turned 45 degrees.
17:08 VanessaE there is no draw type that can replace these objects.
17:08 BlockMen if a modder/game developer has chosen a wrong(lazy) way to add oil lamps i will not keep this strange drawtype AND the new one
17:08 BlockMen and since most want keep the old drawtype i wont do anything there anymore
17:08 Exio4 save it for 0.5? :D
17:09 VanessaE just add a new draw type
17:09 VanessaE jesus fuck
17:09 Exio4 (who the heck wants a blocky torch though)
17:09 BlockMen VanessaE, no. i dont want keep the crap as default
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17:09 VanessaE IT'S NOT CRAP!
17:09 BlockMen it is
17:09 Calinou beware, BlockMen will always hate on ceiling torches
17:10 VanessaE "ART DOES NOT APOLOGIZE!"
17:10 BlockMen Calinou, yes ;P
17:10 Calinou ceiling torches are an interesting feature of Minetest
17:11 Calinou so, let's keep them
17:11 Calinou new dirt, stone (slight tweak), lava textures
17:11 BlockMen "interesting" in meaning of "very special"?
17:11 Jordach problem is, i'm kinda torn between BlockMen and VanessaE on this one D:
17:12 BlockMen Jordach, AFAIK most prefer the new drawtype
17:12 Calinou does your new drawtype cannibalize the ceiling torches?
17:12 Calinou if so, it shouldn't ever be merged
17:12 BlockMen Calinou, no
17:12 VanessaE the new drawtype BY ITSELF looks nice, BlockMen
17:12 BlockMen it does not
17:12 Calinou OK
17:12 Calinou then it's OK for merging
17:12 VanessaE but not at the expense of a feature we already use
17:12 Calinou let's have a good texture for it
17:12 Calinou ie. not one which uses the same colours as Minecraft ;)
17:12 * Jordach is currently busy by re-music tagging everything with a proper music fingerprinting library
17:13 BlockMen they are not using same colors...
17:13 * Exio4 cuts Calinou's right arm and cooks it
17:13 VanessaE Calinou: it uses the same texture filenames as the existing torches but wraps them around a new model == instant FAIL.
17:13 Exio4 yeah, it breaks TPs
17:13 VanessaE Exio4: and games.
17:13 Exio4 so, what
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17:13 VanessaE and some mods.
17:14 Exio4 so, i have an idea
17:14 Exio4 lets freeze minetest too
17:14 PenguinDad BlockMen: just add a new drawtype
17:14 Calinou updates pushed to Carbone: Added other player breath bars, new dirt, leaves, grass, lava textures. Stone texture tweaked.
17:14 Calinou VanessaE, the textures should be renamed, yes
17:14 Calinou default_torch_<type>_new.png ?
17:14 VanessaE default_torch_3d.png.  problem solved.
17:14 Calinou or 3d instead of new
17:15 VanessaE and make sure it is a fully 6-sided image (or use multiple tiles).
17:15 Exio4 while you're at it, add the mod version in the texture name
17:15 Calinou Minetest mods use 6 tiles for different faces, not cube-maps
17:16 Exio4 some mods have different blocks for different versions! that is obviously bad, and we need different textures for each
17:16 VanessaE Calinou: I meant, 6-sided in the same way that a fencepost is 4-sided (ever notice how an image is wrapped around a single fencepost?)
17:16 VanessaE UV-mapped I guess is the correct term
17:18 VanessaE put in your 3d torches, with new filenames for the textures, and keep the old drawtype as some sort of legacy feature.
17:18 VanessaE with the old texture filenames.
17:18 VanessaE how hard is that?
17:19 VanessaE by old I mean old drawtype under some other name e.g. "torchlike_legacy"
17:19 VanessaE and your 3d torches under just torchlike
17:19 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/hmk8-2hw56pO.jpg
17:19 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/EfrNdkJr3oqV.jpg
17:20 VanessaE interesting lava
17:20 Calinou salsa! :D
17:21 Calinou going to make leaves darker
17:21 VanessaE naw
17:21 VanessaE just give them some variation
17:21 VanessaE like light and dark spots
17:21 VanessaE the overall darkness is just about right I think
17:22 VanessaE they just lack variety
17:22 Calinou making them darker makes the trees less distracting
17:22 BlockMen the lava looks like in MC
17:22 Calinou I found a brightness that looks very right
17:22 Calinou BlockMen, not really
17:23 Exio4 the only reason for using steam: not having DRM-free SH :(
17:24 BlockMen Calinou, yours is just brighter: content
17:24 BlockMen ups: http://wordpuncher.com/wp-content/uploads/201​3/01/minecraft-lava-action-adventure-map.png
17:24 BlockMen * -content
17:25 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bSrmHMWA9jvv.jpg
17:25 Calinou I based my lava textures on the… water ones ;)
17:26 Calinou BlockMen, the Minecraft lava animates quite a lot: it goes from red to almost yellow
17:26 Calinou mine is less animated
17:26 Calinou VanessaE, what do you think about the saturation?
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17:27 VanessaE in that last one?  I think you need to call the fire department.  saturation looks good.
17:27 Calinou OK
17:27 Calinou fire spreading in Carbone is nerfed, but can still burn down entire forests :p
17:28 VanessaE when did we coin the term "nerfed" for that purpose anyway? :)
17:28 Calinou I should nerf it more
17:28 VanessaE I still say fire should only spread according to heat dissipated into and time spent trying to burn a given object
17:30 VanessaE leaves might catch fast but can't spread the flames as far as, say, wood, which would catch fire slowly.
17:31 VanessaE (but get in the path of lava and you're basically fucked :P )
17:31 Calinou it takes minutes to burn a tree now
17:31 Calinou and hardly spreads to other trees
17:32 VanessaE oh good
17:33 Vazon Hello Everyone
17:35 Calinou water is very slightly more cyan now
17:36 VanessaE hi Vazon
17:37 Vazon Hi VanessaE :D
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17:40 Vazon how do you add textures to a github repo?
17:40 LemonLake just like anything else
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17:41 Vazon Lemon i cant seem to figure it out
17:41 cheapie Is there a way to make a texture pack override sounds?
17:41 Calinou <Vazon> how do you add textures to a github repo?
17:41 Calinou exactly like other files
17:41 Calinou you add them using “git add”
17:41 LemonLake ^
17:41 LemonLake <LemonLake> just like anything else
17:42 Calinou really, the procedure is no different from a text file
17:42 Calinou cheapie, no :( it's not sound packs
17:42 Calinou can't override models either, only their textures
17:42 cheapie So, there's no way at all to override sounds from the client side?
17:43 Calinou no
17:43 Calinou live with the rickrolls and too-loud sounds!
17:43 Vazon im new to github, i dont use git add. i have no idea where to even find that. i just click new file and copy from my luas in the the area given
17:43 Krock Vazon, git gui
17:43 Calinou Vazon, the web interface won't let you upload binary files
17:43 Calinou use a Git GUI like TortoiseGit if unexperienced
17:44 Vazon ok thanks
17:44 Krock there's a gui from github
17:44 Calinou proprietary, locked-in
17:45 Calinou I've successfully used TortoiseGit, you just need to specify clone URL, then repository will be downloaded; I presume you can just modify stuff then the changes will apply on commit + push
17:45 Calinou https://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/
17:45 PilzAdam >google.com
17:46 Calinou it's hosted on Google Code, yes
17:46 Vazon will the tortoise work for ubuntu?
17:46 Calinou http://download.tortoisegit.org/tgit/​1.8.8.0/TortoiseGit-1.8.8.0-32bit.msi → direct download for 32 bit
17:46 Calinou ah, no
17:46 Calinou that's Windows-only software
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17:46 Vazon :/
17:47 Calinou maybe try the “git-gui” package then
17:47 Krock Windows ftw!
17:47 Calinou I've never used it
17:47 Krock Calinou, I got that client too - now when the github gui turned off support for winXP - well I don't understand how I can uplad changes
17:48 Krock *upload
17:48 Krock Could you describe me how to use this please?
17:48 Calinou you need to add files (to index the changes), then commit (to mark the revision locally), then push (to tell your host you've uploaded files)
17:48 PenguinDad Krock: git push -u origin master
17:49 Calinou you don't do only one “upload” step ;)
17:49 PilzAdam Krock, you use win xp?
17:49 Krock PilzAdam, since 3 years
17:49 Krock ehem 4
17:49 Krock Calinou, okay thanks
17:49 PilzAdam uh, oh, whats your IP?
17:49 Calinou he has no way to upgrade
17:49 Calinou tip: you can get upgrades by making your XP tell Microsoft it's an Industry one
17:50 Calinou (haven't tried; do at your own risk)
17:50 Calinou updates*
17:50 Krock PilzAdam, I got the latest security updates and my MT server runs on win vista
17:50 Vazon vista or xp i cant remember microsoft has given out the software and it is very vonerable to hackers now
17:51 Calinou given out?
17:51 Vazon ya
17:51 Krock huh
17:51 Calinou XP is very, very vulnerable
17:51 Calinou the more recent, the safer
17:51 Vazon like the software code
17:51 PilzAdam the more microsoft, the unsafer
17:51 Calinou they don't give the code like that
17:51 Vazon xD PilzAdam
17:51 Krock Vazon, don't tell rubbsh. they didn't even release ms-dos sources
17:51 Calinou except to security companies
17:51 Calinou (paid to fix the issues)
17:52 Vazon Im not joking
17:52 Vazon It was over the news where i live a month or to ago
17:52 PilzAdam github.com/bill/windows-xp
17:53 Krock PilzAdam, yeah sure. github.
17:53 Krock M$ would put it on some .msi file and put it on their ftp server
17:54 Krock Vazon, you've got way faster news than me then...
17:54 Vazon idk all i know is they gave out the code
17:54 PenguinDad Krock: they would put it on a hidden site on codeplex ;)
17:56 Vazon Well im going to play Mariocart8, little sister wants me to play with her
17:56 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=9428
17:56 Calinou new texture pack
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18:06 Jordach YAY
18:06 Jordach almost 100% sorted and properly tagged my media library
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18:07 Calinou “media”…
18:10 Jordach Calinou, i happen to have a insane file tree of discs, from different albums, and metadata fucks this pattern
18:10 Jordach i've just fixed them and gave them correct tags + album art
18:11 Jordach that was an hour well spent :D
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18:18 Calinou crap, can't get git commit --amend to work
18:18 Calinou duplicate commit for nothing, hello
18:20 peer I reset connections :)
18:22 Calinou merge commit \o/
18:25 BlockMen bye
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18:26 LemonLake Amaz?
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18:37 ligeti Hi
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18:40 Mallot1 hows it going guys?
18:40 Mallot1 long time
18:40 Mallot1 B)
18:41 Mallot1 Well GameGrape Corporation is doing well, 785 views for May and the downloads and such just keep going up and up B)
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18:42 Mallot1 Gamegrape Corporation: www.codingrevolution.blogspot.com
18:42 Calinou this is not a channel for advertising your paid thing
18:42 Calinou 785 views is far from huge
18:42 Mallot1 paid?
18:42 Mallot1 hi to you too Calinou
18:43 Mallot1 and that is good for an unnadvertised indie Game site
18:43 Mallot1 and that is pretty huge
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18:44 Vazon ok back
18:45 Mallot1 hi Vanzon long time man
18:45 Vazon ya it has been
18:45 Mallot1 hows the server?
18:45 Vazon its good, i started it back up again
18:46 Mallot1 yay, i havent played minetest lately though
18:46 Vazon been busy?
18:46 Mallot1 yeah, been busy with GameGrape
18:46 Vazon what is that?
18:46 Mallot1 working on a new game, and i recently got my Microsoft developer licenses
18:47 Vazon o ok
18:47 Mallot1 of thatsmy indie game company
18:47 Mallot1 ;0
18:47 Mallot1 *:)
18:47 Vazon thats great bud
18:47 Mallot1 thanks man
18:47 Mallot1 how about you? been busy
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18:47 Vazon ive been good
18:48 Mallot1 cool
18:48 Vazon ya
18:48 Mallot1 lol look at the topic xD
18:49 Mallot1 hey Jordach, the sfan5 link is broken
18:50 ligeti guys ... I am trying to install the nuke package (minetest 4.9 r) and I am following the documentation, but I can't find the mods directory ... am I missing something? (I am on linux)
18:50 ligeti and by package I mean ... mod
18:50 Mallot1 well the folder is not names nuke mod from what i can remember
18:51 Mallot1 try looking in your downloads path
18:52 ligeti ... I am on linux... and I am looking for the mod directory to deploy the nuke package
18:52 VanessaE run-in-place build?
18:52 * sfan5 meows at Mallot1
18:53 * Mallot1 laughs
18:53 ligeti VanessaE, I didn't understand that part
18:53 sfan5 Mallot1: the link should work
18:53 * Mallot1 has a feeling that Jordach doesn't like GameGrape Corp
18:53 ligeti I am on Debian I used apt-get to install it
18:53 Mallot1 sfan5: im gettng a white screen
18:53 sfan5 reload the page
18:53 VanessaE ligeti: is the entire minetest build contained within a folder e.g. minetest-0.4.9-release or something like this, or did you compile it and do a `make install` ?
18:54 Mallot1 oh now it works
18:54 VanessaE oh ok
18:54 VanessaE apt-get means it's global
18:54 VanessaE so look in /home/yourname/.minetest
18:54 VanessaE (with the dot)
18:54 VanessaE in there should be a mods directory
18:54 VanessaE if there isn't one, create it and put your mods there
18:55 ligeti I don't remember compiling it... I looked in the game directory and found the binary, the data and config file in ~/.minetest/
18:55 VanessaE that's ok
18:55 VanessaE wait what?
18:55 ligeti !?
18:55 VanessaE binary and data in ~/.minetest?
18:55 ligeti no
18:56 ligeti binary in  /games/
18:56 VanessaE oh ok derp :)
18:56 VanessaE right
18:56 ligeti (for the menu)
18:56 markveidemanis *** Error in `./minetestserver': double free or corruption (out): 0x00007f7034183c30 ***
18:56 VanessaE so in ~/.minetest should be your mods dir.
18:56 VanessaE if it doesn't exist, create it.
18:56 ligeti ok
18:56 ligeti testing
18:56 Mallot1 wow that links pretty funny sfan5, i wish i made the cut though xD
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18:58 VanessaE ligeti: once you add a mod, you must "[Configure]" the world you want to use it in, enable the mod there.
18:58 ligeti VanessaE, ... thank you mate, not I can see it in the mods menu
18:58 ligeti :)
18:59 VanessaE no prob
18:59 VanessaE enjoy
18:59 ligeti not yet lol
18:59 ligeti I got an error!
18:59 ligeti checking debug.txt
19:00 VanessaE bear in mind that some mods require a development version of Minetest
19:00 Mallot1 Has anyone tryed the instasaplings mod?
19:00 VanessaE and 0.4.9 is getting kinda long in the tooth
19:00 ligeti meh permissions :P
19:00 ligeti fixing it
19:00 ligeti ust a sec :D
19:00 ligeti just*
19:01 ligeti OK loading (I unzipped the file under root) ... :/
19:01 ligeti now it is working just fine
19:01 ligeti thanks VanessaE :)
19:01 VanessaE cool :)
19:02 ligeti Booooooom!
19:02 ligeti lol
19:02 ligeti that was fun :P
19:02 Mallot1 i think ill go hang out with the developers
19:03 VanessaE you won't be able to.
19:03 VanessaE web chat is muted in #-dev.
19:03 Mallot1 aw man
19:03 Mallot1 i wanna hang with the devs
19:03 Mallot1 and get there autographs ;)
19:04 Mallot1 do you guys think Celeron55 is like notch?
19:04 Mallot1 *Notch
19:04 LemonLake um
19:04 LemonLake what
19:04 VanessaE probably not
19:04 LemonLake ^
19:05 VanessaE and c55 is not really the head of the project as such - all of the core devs are more or less equal in their say in what gets done
19:05 Mallot1 its weird because I can actually contact Notch but i can't even get an answer from Celeron55
19:05 Mallot1 oh i understand
19:05 Mallot1 oh yeah, and MineCraft is company owned and MineTest is open source
19:06 LemonLake Just because its open source doesnt mean it cant be owned by a company
19:06 LemonLake company != open source
19:06 Mallot1 i Just wish we could Talk to Celeron55
19:06 LemonLake um
19:06 LemonLake we can?
19:06 Mallot1 i know LemonLake i meant its closed source vs open source
19:07 Mallot1 Well at least I can
19:07 Mallot1 t
19:07 LemonLake mhm
19:07 Piggybear87 Ok, I'm here. VanessaE.
19:07 VanessaE Piggybear87: use <space> <pipe> <space>  to add a linebreak
19:07 LemonLake did you even try?
19:07 VanessaE e.g. This is | a new line
19:07 Mallot1 yeah, 2012
19:07 Mallot1 <space>
19:07 LemonLake mallot
19:07 Piggybear87 Ok. Thanks. Can I get you to come to vanilla and remove 2 fence sections?
19:07 LemonLake that was two yaers ago
19:07 Mallot1 <pipe>
19:07 VanessaE sure.
19:08 Mallot1 haha yeah i'v been busy
19:08 Mallot1 we should get minetest famous!
19:08 Mallot1 like world famous!
19:08 asie hi Mallot1
19:08 Mallot1 :D
19:08 asie you're being silly
19:09 asie minetest doesn't care about fame or monetary gain
19:09 LemonLake ^
19:09 Mallot1 haha hi asie
19:09 asie we're a bunch of idealists who want to create our perfect game
19:09 asie some of us being dissatisfied after playing minecraft, some of us after seeing minecraft's eula or pricetag
19:09 Mallot1 true
19:09 asie minetest gives the modder a lot more freedom
19:09 asie same for the server admin
19:09 asie minecraft's modding, due to its nature, is very centralized
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19:09 Mallot1 hey guys, is there a minetest app?
19:09 asie one is in works for android
19:10 Mallot1 i have it
19:10 asie and judging by the general attitude of here nobody cares about iOS
19:10 asie :-)
19:10 Mallot1 Im an iOS developer
19:10 asie well then port it
19:10 LemonLake how can you afford that Mallot1 ?
19:10 Mallot1 maybe one day
19:10 LemonLake that's $99 a month
19:10 asie Mallot1: the problem with iOS development is
19:10 Mallot1 its $99 a year
19:10 asie you need to be careful
19:10 asie apple might classify item definitions as "code"
19:10 asie and those are downloaded from every server upon connecting
19:11 Mallot1 i havent brought the license yet, but i am making alot of different apps so when i buy the license i get the most of of my $99 ;)
19:11 asie in addition, you are disallowed from automatically downloading code in any way
19:11 VanessaE asie: only if the code in question is adaptable by the end-user and/or involves an interpreter
19:11 asie VanessaE: >Lua
19:11 asie also they rejected JSON data once or twice
19:11 VanessaE asie: the client doesn't run Lua.
19:11 Mallot1 if the code has been downloaded without user consent asie
19:11 asie VanessaE: singleplayer.
19:12 VanessaE (except in the main menu)
19:12 asie Mallot1: even with user consent IIRC
19:12 VanessaE that's a complicated issue, yeah
19:12 Mallot1 yeah
19:12 VanessaE I suppose one could elect to build only the client, without the server part, hence no singleplayer mode
19:12 asie VanessaE: no, the solution is quite simple here
19:12 Mallot1 anyone hear of the bandwidth spectrum crunch?
19:13 asie include popular mods with the app, allow user to download mods into it via iTunes
19:13 asie this should be fine, see Codea as a precedent
19:13 Mallot1 I have my lincenses for Microsoft Xbox and Windows Store and Metro
19:13 Mallot1 but i want to make my own Voxel engine game
19:14 Mallot1 one day you will see GameGrape Corporation right next to Valve and Activision and EA
19:14 Mallot1 B)
19:15 VanessaE asie: if the server can run code that the user can theoretically change, it can be thrown out.  a couple of C64 emulators got thrown out because of that, too
19:15 VanessaE (because the BASIC interpreter was still enabled)
19:18 sfan5 asie: I care about iOS
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19:18 Mallot1 me too!
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19:23 Kacey It's been a while since I last ventured here...
19:28 VanessaE hi Kacey
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19:30 lemonlake_ Note to self: don't press ctrl + alt + f6
19:30 lemonlake_ i think he  just pressed said keys
19:31 * VanessaE 's brain shorts out from lack of sleep
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19:32 VanessaE bbl, gonna take a nap
19:32 * Mallot1 hands VannessaE a bed
19:32 Mallot1 bye enjoy the bed
19:33 CraigyDavi Oh god, it's Monday tomorrow :O
19:33 CraigyDavi Just realised
19:34 Mallot1 :O
19:34 lemonlake_ mhm
19:34 lemonlake_ brb
19:34 Mallot1 sup CraigyDavi
19:34 CraigyDavi Not much
19:34 Mallot1 alright bring me lemoncake_
19:34 Mallot1 are you jacraig1?
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19:35 Jordach LemonLake, dat connection :O
19:36 LemonLake Sorry
19:36 LemonLake I went into tty6 a min ago and all the sound crashed and cinnamon died so I had to hard reset
19:36 CraigyDavi Nope not jacraig
19:37 CraigyDavi Dunno who that is Mallot1
19:37 CraigyDavi Well they had a server once
19:39 Mallot1 yeah man, jacraig1's server was the stuff!
19:40 CraigyDavi It only lasted a couple days though
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19:52 Mallot1 im talking to c55 right now hes pretty cool
19:53 * Jordach can smell the /ignore
19:53 Jordach I CAN TASTE IT
19:55 Mallot1 haha Jordach
19:55 Mallot1 i wish B)
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19:57 Mallot1 * u wish
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20:03 Mallot1 get back here Jordach
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20:11 Mallot1 asie where you going?
20:11 Mallot1 baby come back!
20:11 Mallot1 :(
20:11 LemonLake Mallot
20:11 LemonLake half of them are just timing out
20:12 kaeza any kind of fool could see~
20:13 kaeza there was something in everything about you~ <3
20:16 Mallot1 haha
20:17 Mallot1 LemonLake you came back! ;')
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20:40 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-140601a.zip
20:40 OldCoder Would anybody be interested in testing that 32-bit Windows client?
20:40 * OldCoder is experimenting again with fast Windows clients
20:41 OldCoder That one was built using an older MinGW. Later I will try a newer one and also produce a 64-bit client.
20:41 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-140601a.zip
20:41 OldCoder
20:41 CraigyDavi I will test it for you, OldCoder
20:41 OldCoder CraigyDavi, thank you
20:43 * sfan5 would love to test but needs to go to bed
20:43 OldCoder kk
20:43 CraigyDavi OldCoder, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/f5cpRSJO21nE.png
20:43 sfan5 OldCoder: how did you build those?
20:43 OldCoder crack, R
20:43 OldCoder CraigyDavi, Reviewing *
20:43 OldCoder sfan5, one moment
20:44 OldCoder CraigyDavi, thanks. Works under Wine here. I will try the newer compiler.
20:44 OldCoder sfan5, answer:
20:44 CraigyDavi Ok
20:45 OldCoder I have built MinGW old release and building two newer releases. Old 32-bit New 32-bit New 64-bit. After that tried buildbot script with minor modifications. Works for old MinGW here under Wine but crashes for CraigyDavi. More tests needed.
20:45 OldCoder sfan5, ^
20:45 OldCoder Done
20:45 OldCoder CraigyDavi, question. What release of Windows are you using and is it 32 or 64 bit?
20:46 CraigyDavi Windows 8.1 - 64 bit
20:46 OldCoder CraigyDavi, thanks. I will ping you sometime to try the 64 bit release when ready.
20:46 CraigyDavi Ok
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20:58 Mallot1 hello
20:58 Mallot1 am i connected
20:58 sapier depends what you expect to be connected to Mallot1 ;-)
20:58 OldCoder Power
20:58 OldCoder Influence
20:58 Mallot1 xD haha!
21:06 ligeti Guys... are there maps that one can install and play? (like ... already built cities)? I can't find it in the wiki!
21:07 OldCoder ligeti, sure
21:07 LemonLake yep
21:07 LemonLake check the forum
21:07 ligeti cool
21:07 ligeti thanks
21:07 OldCoder ligeti, if you can't find any, ping me later
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21:07 ligeti OK thanks mate
21:08 Mallot1 ligeti just put a map in the map folder
21:08 ligeti not the worlds folder?
21:09 ligeti did you see this: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=9377
21:09 ligeti wow!
21:09 kaeza ligeti, hi, download the map you want from the forums, uncompress, and move to the worlds/ folder
21:09 ligeti thanks kaeza :)
21:09 kaeza simple as that :)
21:10 kaeza some maps may need external mods, so be sure to check the topic
21:11 ligeti I noticed that already (texture and mods), thanks :)
21:11 kaeza sure :)
21:20 CraigyDavi OldCoder, you got any builds to test now? I need to go in a sec
21:21 OldCoder Thanks but if you are leaving there is no rush
21:21 OldCoder I will prepare others
21:21 OldCoder See you another time
21:21 OldCoder o/
21:21 * OldCoder is experimenting
21:21 ligeti OK, I have to go to bed, thanks guys for all the help, see you around :)
21:21 ligeti night
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21:56 markveidemanis OldCoder: Cold you ping me for the 64bit buid?
21:56 OldCoder markveidemanis, I will ping you for some test builds
21:56 markveidemanis Okay
21:56 OldCoder But for the 64-bit one I'll need to speak with sfan5 or other devs
21:56 Vazon ok back
21:56 OldCoder the script I'm starting with seems to target 32-bits only
21:56 markveidemanis On mobie right now though
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21:56 The_Beast Hey
21:59 markveidemanis OldCoder: Server running IRC mod not on mt-servers
21:59 markveidemanis I dont have hash on this keymap
21:59 OldCoder markveidemanis, PM
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22:50 bas080 What does this error mean?
22:50 bas080 InventoryMenu: The selected inventory location "nodemeta:-25,17,1" doesn't exist
22:50 bas080 Why do I keep getting it when pressing on a "inventoryMenu" that doesn't exist?
22:56 OldCoder Is anybody interested in testing a Windows client? Trying to fix a crash:
22:56 OldCoder Never mind
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23:33 OldCoder kaeza, are you still awake? I've built against the latest Irrlicht. Just needed a minor tweak.
23:35 OldCoder
23:36 OldCoder NakedFury, ShadowNinja, VanessaE, Vazon any of you able to do a Windows client test?
23:37 NakedFury I can sure
23:37 OldCoder thanks...
23:37 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-140601g.zip
23:37 OldCoder It's probably going to crash...
23:37 OldCoder But it'll help the project to nail this down
23:38 OldCoder ShadowNinja, BTW I have texted LM
23:41 NakedFury System Error: missing libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll
23:41 NakedFury my fault or compiling missed it?
23:42 OldCoder Hm; odd. No, not your fault.
23:42 OldCoder Ah
23:42 OldCoder This has to do with updating Irrlicht
23:43 OldCoder NakedFury, thanks
23:43 OldCoder I'll need to build Irrlicht 1.8.X myself
23:57 OldCoder NakedFury, will you be signing off soon?
23:57 NakedFury no
23:57 OldCoder I am building Irrlicht and Curl from scratch to retry
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23:59 NakedFury okay

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