Time Nick Message 00:07 WindHero well, I ran into another interesting problem 00:08 WindHero minetest.setting_get_pos("config_pos") lets you retrieve a position 00:08 WindHero but minetest.setting_set won't let you set a pos 00:08 WindHero and there is no setting_set_pos() 00:19 WindHero ...does Minetest even use static_spawnpoint? 00:23 ShadowNinja WindHero: Yes it does. See builtin/game/static_spawn.lua 00:24 WindHero hmm 00:24 WindHero is there anything that blocks mods from setting that value during runtime? 00:24 WindHero I clearly have my mod set to write a value to there 00:24 WindHero but when I check the config file after, nothing's there 00:29 Piggybear87 Ooops, Meant to minimize, not exit... 00:35 WindHero alright, got it working :D 00:35 WindHero I swore I set the permissions for the config file right 00:35 WindHero but I was wrong 00:35 WindHero I set them on the wrong installation :P 00:36 LemonLake Hai guise 00:36 LemonLake Me on real mint now :D 01:53 LemonLake So, this is the error which I was not getting. This is the error which caused me this entire trouble in the first damn place. 01:53 LemonLake http://imgur.com/fPxAO9I 01:57 kaeza LemonLake, you are probably trying to index using a nil value 01:57 LemonLake Indeed I am. 01:57 kaeza LemonLake, can you pastebin the relevant code? 01:57 LemonLake Except I was not being told that on Windows, so I've seen spending hours trying to get a Mint VM to work. 01:57 kaeza lol 01:57 LemonLake And now I've just got a dual-boot mint working and I wish I'd done it sooner, this is AMAZING. 01:57 LemonLake Plus I get errors now. 01:58 LemonLake Which is better than an errorless crash. 01:58 LemonLake I can give you the bitbucket if you wish 01:58 LemonLake https://bitbucket.org/LemonLake/ace-of-picks/src 01:58 LemonLake I believe the issue lies somewhere within ace.lua around player joining. 01:58 kaeza welcome to the world of Linux. have a seat, a "which is the bestest distro" flamewar will follow shortly 01:59 LemonLake we had a mini-one earlier 01:59 kaeza ah welcome party I see :P 01:59 LemonLake :P 02:00 Vazon hrmp stupid internet stoped 02:00 LemonLake How can I get the console to show? 02:00 LemonLake I don't have a visible console 02:01 Vazon Lemon what are you trying to do? 02:01 LemonLake I'm on mint now 02:02 LemonLake But the game doesn't launch with a console or anything 02:02 Megaf People, I have a great idea for the best mod evar, but I cant code 02:02 Megaf so, help? 02:02 Vazon What is it Megaf? 02:02 LemonLake I would like to hear this idea 02:02 Megaf Vazon; Skype 02:02 Vazon ok 02:03 Megaf LemonLake; want to joing the skype chat? 02:03 kaeza LemonLake, try using xterm/rxvt 02:03 LemonLake I have a reaaaaaaaaaaaly old version of skype because I'm on mint 02:03 LemonLake But if it's text, sure 02:03 Megaf yep, text, my skype is eumegaf 02:03 LemonLake Is xterm builtin to linux? 02:04 kaeza it's part of the windowing system 02:17 SmugLeaf 22:03:13 < LemonLake> I have a reaaaaaaaaaaaly old version of skype because I'm on mint 02:18 SmugLeaf < LemonLake> I have a reaaaaaaaaaaaly old version of skype because I'm on linux and skype is shit and will never release an update 02:18 SmugLeaf fixed 02:18 LemonLake yes 02:18 SmugLeaf skype is shit for multiple reasons, but leaving linux to die is top 5 for sure 02:19 SmugLeaf please tox don't be crap 02:19 SmugLeaf please please please 02:36 Piggybear87 How do you do "last seen"? 02:42 Piggybear87 **seen** 02:43 Piggybear87 print "Hello?" 02:58 LemonLake Okay, back to my error 02:58 LemonLake ace.textures seems to be nil 02:58 LemonLake No, empty 02:58 LemonLake I just did a dump 03:22 LemonLake So it works. 03:22 MegAFK Bye all 03:22 LemonLake Okay, cya. 03:23 kaeza away nicks kill 03:23 LemonLake ^ 03:27 LemonLake Ugh 03:27 LemonLake Why can't minetest just catch lua errors 03:30 LemonLake oh no wonder I kept thinking that was a stupid error 03:30 LemonLake Turns out I can deceive myself into thinking there's an entire block of code where there is actually not 05:22 realtinymonster i hate google... 05:25 realtinymonster no youtube acc. without google acc. , no google acc. without phone #! 06:23 deezl yo 09:44 nman3600 hi 09:45 LemonLake Sup 10:06 RealBadAngel hi LemonLake 10:06 LemonLake Hey! 10:06 RealBadAngel i can see that one more happy linux user has born ;) 10:06 VanessaE hi 10:06 LemonLake So much progress is being made on this Linux :D 10:06 LemonLake Indeed :D 10:07 RealBadAngel i told ya, nowadays linuxes are way better than winshit 10:07 LemonLake By far. 10:07 VanessaE I've run exclusively linux on my desktop for ...oh.. 15 years I guess. 10:07 LemonLake The only problem with them is that they lack apps 10:07 LemonLake Apart from that, they're perfect. 10:07 RealBadAngel not really 10:07 LemonLake They have a plentiful but a lot of the main PC ones aren't up-to-date or something 10:08 RealBadAngel you are just used to paid, windows versions 10:08 RealBadAngel just look out for free alternatives 10:08 LemonLake Yeah 10:08 LemonLake I've always got my windows there on just reboot if I actually need it 10:08 RealBadAngel i do also have windows to boot in, just for testing the shaders work 10:09 LemonLake My Windows will probably be for gaming and video editing, and this Linux for everything else 10:09 RealBadAngel theres Wine 10:09 LemonLake There is but it's not the best 10:09 RealBadAngel you can launch win apps in linux env 10:09 RealBadAngel not all of them, but a great number 10:10 nman3600 hey RealBadAngel 10:10 LemonLake Does text get scaled automatically? 10:10 RealBadAngel including windows builds of minetest ;) 10:10 LemonLake :D 10:10 LemonLake No it does not, perfect 10:10 LemonLake I can use pixel offsets for this death tracker >:) 10:10 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE, nman3600 10:10 VanessaE hey RBA 10:11 nman3600 ugh mesecon buttons should trigger steel doors without you having to wire it up :( 10:12 LemonLake I think it's pretty neat that you have to wire it up 10:12 LemonLake Makes it more 'realistic' 10:12 nman3600 with the style of the hour i've got wiring it up will ruin it all and will make it look ugly 10:13 nman3600 house* 10:13 LemonLake You're making a multitest mod, why not make meseconds support and have blocks with little holes in them? 10:13 nman3600 maybe 10:13 LemonLake The NBE works perfectly now, and you understand basic for loops 10:13 VanessaE imho if mesecons can open a steel door at all, that's a bug 10:13 VanessaE steel doors are supposed to be locked. 10:14 LemonLake Oh, there's the reason 10:14 LemonLake Is it possible at all to get the width of text in pixels? 10:15 RealBadAngel btw, i am thinkin about some weird drawtype 10:15 LemonLake I like those. 10:15 RealBadAngel designed for use just with l-system trees 10:15 LemonLake Throw a C++ IDE at me. 10:15 LemonLake :O 10:15 RealBadAngel kinda mix of nodebox and microblocks 10:16 LemonLake YES. 10:16 RealBadAngel in such node only trunk and leaves could be mixed 10:16 LemonLake For super detailed L-Sys trees 10:16 RealBadAngel exactly 10:17 LemonLake That's an awesome idea 10:17 RealBadAngel now to get nice shape, the tree has to be big 10:17 RealBadAngel and seen from the distance 10:18 LemonLake Also, for performance on lower-end machines you MAY want some sort of LOD 10:18 LemonLake Perhaps this effect's only visible if 'fancy trees' is enabled 10:18 nman3600 TOMMOROW IS ANOTHER DAY 10:19 RealBadAngel if that was made in core, as a drawtype, no one would propably notice slowdowns 10:19 LemonLake True 10:20 RealBadAngel even if, paying a few fps for highly detailed trees would be worth it 10:21 LemonLake What's the best C++ IDE for Linux? 10:21 RealBadAngel im using geany 10:21 jin_xi qt creator is nice 10:21 RealBadAngel imho the best one, for c++ and lua together 10:22 LemonLake ^ 10:22 nman3600 memorandum is an awesome mod 10:22 VanessaE RealBadAngel: +100000000 10:22 LemonLake By the looks of it Sublime Text has C++ support too 10:22 LemonLake But I'm gonna try Geany first 10:22 RealBadAngel also eclipse is here 10:22 VanessaE (for the drawtype) 10:22 LemonLake Yeah, I can't get eclipse to work for some reason 10:22 VanessaE good luck coding it though. 10:23 LemonLake So yeah, is there a way to get the text width in pixels or not? 10:23 RealBadAngel VanessaE, that is actually was easier than framed glass for example 10:23 RealBadAngel *way easier 10:23 LemonLake If not, could I add it to the lua api? 10:23 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah but how will you decide how much of that node is trunks versus fruits versus leaves #1 versus leaves #2? 10:24 RealBadAngel count all zeroes and ones 10:24 VanessaE that's enough to find two types 10:24 RealBadAngel and twos ;) 10:24 VanessaE what about he other two? 10:24 VanessaE there are four possible objects in a tree 10:24 RealBadAngel air/trunk/leaves 10:25 RealBadAngel and fruit 10:25 VanessaE ok five then 10:25 VanessaE air, trunk, leaves #1, leaves #2, and fruit 10:25 RealBadAngel four? 10:25 RealBadAngel ah 5 10:25 RealBadAngel so lets say one byte for microblock 10:25 VanessaE (or maybe I was using the fruit for "leaves #2"? in which case, 4) 10:25 VanessaE yes? 10:26 VanessaE that's 1 bit per space 10:26 RealBadAngel if fruit is present just sub it and leave the rest 10:26 VanessaE you'd need to bytes per. 10:26 VanessaE two* 10:26 RealBadAngel then to calculate the drop count wheter number is bigger, trunk or leaves 10:27 RealBadAngel and drop it 10:27 VanessaE so you'd only drop just the one node type that has the most? 10:27 RealBadAngel well, in fact we dont have to 10:27 RealBadAngel we can drop two stacks 10:27 RealBadAngel with exact numbers 10:27 VanessaE no, that'll give too much 10:27 VanessaE after all, this all fits into one node 10:28 VanessaE so your idea makes more sense. 10:28 VanessaE or at most, give one unit of each type that appears in the node 10:28 VanessaE if there is leaves, fruit, and trunk in the node, give one of each on drop 10:28 LemonLake ^ 10:28 VanessaE regardless of just how much there is 10:28 LemonLake maybe it should be randomized for trunks? 10:28 VanessaE but even that might seem like too much.. 10:28 LemonLake like 1-3 10:29 LemonLake I mean 1 in 3 of dropping 10:30 VanessaE that might confuse people 10:30 VanessaE I think RBA's initial idea is the best - drop whatever is most common 10:30 LemonLake Actually, yeah 10:31 VanessaE now, the question is how to store this custom node? 10:31 VanessaE it's gonna require two bytes for sure. 10:31 VanessaE param2 could be used 10:31 VanessaE but what about the other byte? 10:31 LemonLake store it in a freezer 10:32 VanessaE in the map, silly :P 10:32 LemonLake do properties not get stored in the map? 10:32 VanessaE the node def does not, but there's always node metadata 10:32 LemonLake yeah, why not go with that? 10:32 VanessaE but that's wasteful if there is a better way 10:32 LemonLake can you not add a param3? 10:32 VanessaE wish hmmmm were here, he'd probably want to weigh in on this 10:33 VanessaE no, can't do that, there are bandwith and map size/storage implications, as well as map version issues 10:33 LemonLake ah. 10:33 sea VanessaE do you work on minetest every day? 10:33 LemonLake so you can only store a single byte in a param2? 10:33 VanessaE sea: I am here most every day but I do not work on the engine. 10:34 VanessaE I contribute ideas, sometimes test a bit of code, and I of course work on mods from time to time, and textures. 10:34 VanessaE mostly I drive the devs nuts :) 10:34 LemonLake Is there a name size limit? 10:34 VanessaE LemonLake: not as far as I am aware. 10:34 LemonLake Uh-oh 10:35 LemonLake Now this is a problem :/ 10:35 VanessaE we could use multiple node names but we try to avoid doing that 10:35 VanessaE what? 10:35 LemonLake Now I gotta think of a clever workaround 10:35 LemonLake Because if someone has a really long name, it's gonna go over the other and look weird 10:35 VanessaE LemonLake: the way mesecons does it. 10:35 VanessaE or pipeworks used to. 10:35 LemonLake Just limit the name? 10:36 LemonLake (substring) 10:36 VanessaE we used to assign attributes to single bits in the name of the node 10:36 LemonLake I mean for players 10:36 VanessaE 8 of them in the case of mesecons I think, 6 in pipeworks. 10:36 LemonLake Sorry 10:36 VanessaE what do player names have to do with anything? 10:37 LemonLake I'm asking my own question, here 10:37 VanessaE oh ok 10:37 nman3600 LemonLake you shot urself in the foot again 10:37 LemonLake nman3600 No I did not 10:37 nman3600 dude the song 10:37 LemonLake nman3600 I'm not deaf 10:37 nman3600 :) 10:37 LemonLake You might be but I'm not 10:38 VanessaE and no, afaik player names if they have a limit it's fairly long 10:38 * nman3600 rolls his eyes hoping for no-one else to join this awkward conversation 10:38 LemonLake Okay...hmm 10:38 VanessaE you'll probably need to do some kind of clipping. 10:38 LemonLake Well the text hud element has a scale 10:38 LemonLake Guess I'd just go with that 10:39 VanessaE as for the nodes, one could use multiple nodes to store these extended attributes to avoid using metadata or a new map version, but that's *thousands* of possible combinations. 10:39 LemonLake :/ 10:40 VanessaE it's either that or you do "color cell" limits like we did in the old days 10:40 nman3600 LemonLake YOU SONG THIEF 10:41 VanessaE actually you can't do that either. damn. 10:41 LemonLake :/ 10:41 VanessaE there's no way around it. this needs two bytes per node. 10:41 LemonLake The idea is awesome...executing it seems...impossible 10:41 VanessaE crap. 10:42 VanessaE there are FIVE node types. 10:42 VanessaE this needs THREE bytes. 10:42 LemonLake D: 10:42 sea What is it that you're trying to store? 10:42 * nman3600 arrests LemonLake for stealing nman3600's song he was gonna play 10:42 VanessaE I was right. air, trunk, leaves 1, leaves 2, fruit. At that rate, you may as well allow for a sideways trunk for branches as well. 10:43 LemonLake nman3600 just choose another song 10:43 nman3600 i did 10:43 nman3600 it was on the end of the list the one u stole 10:43 LemonLake haha 10:43 nman3600 so dibs playing self destruct 10:43 VanessaE sea: trying to find a graceful way to create microblocks for the purposes of growing trees that are as detailed as moretrees but smaller. 10:43 reactor хыхы 10:43 LemonLake crap 10:43 LemonLake self destruct was my next song 10:43 LemonLake lol jk 10:43 VanessaE RealBadAngel: what about the set_meta_nodedef code, or whatever it was? 10:44 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I think we're gonna have to resort to that. 10:44 LemonLake Argh that's a bit horrible 10:44 LemonLake but I guess it's the only way 10:44 nman3600 LemonLake i'm gonna play bassline kickin silverback remix next :D 10:44 LemonLake NOOO 10:44 LemonLake That's my legit next song! 10:44 reactor Why doesn't IRC mod work with Unicode? 10:44 nman3600 LemonLake deal with it 10:44 nman3600 u can play self destruct 10:44 LemonLake Bah 10:44 LemonLake Nah 10:45 LemonLake You play it, it's revenge 10:45 sea Why do you need two bytes and are you sure that you can't use less? 10:45 VanessaE reactor: it will send it out from a server, but incoming unicode is blank. dunno why 10:45 reactor Because I need Russian support. 10:45 RealBadAngel i would love set_meta_nodedef in 10:45 reactor VanessaE: exactly. 10:45 reactor Also, I see some people's input, but not the others. 10:45 reactor Most just talk with little squares. 10:46 * nman3600 suspects someone turned his smooth lighting off 10:46 VanessaE sea: three bytes, because there are at least five types of objects to be represented, and this has to be crammed into the space of a single node that doesn't already have "space" in the map entry for this kind of node model. 10:46 reactor The former must be UNIX systems, the latter -- Windows and CP1251. 10:47 VanessaE sea: five possible items means you need three bits to store the item ID, and there are eight spaces (microblocks) in the node to place one of these items. 10:47 VanessaE hence the three bytes 10:47 VanessaE reactor: gettext? 10:48 RealBadAngel ive we decide to split node into 1/8ths (each dimension by half) 10:48 VanessaE reactor: yeah, I think meta_set_nodedef is the only way to do here. 10:48 reactor VanessaE: vanilla 10:48 reactor how are nodes related to text? 10:48 VanessaE reactor: I mean did you compile the server with support for it? 10:48 RealBadAngel we end up with 8 mircronodes that needs ids 10:48 LemonLake Does printscr not go to the clipboard@ 10:48 LemonLake ? 10:48 VanessaE fuck 10:48 VanessaE tab complete FAIL 10:49 VanessaE reactor, did you compile your server with support for gettext? 10:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah, I think meta_set_nodedef is the only way to do here. 10:49 VanessaE there. 10:49 RealBadAngel lets say 4 bits per micro, it will mean 4 bytes 10:50 VanessaE LemonLake: usually you either get a prompt, or the image is immediately saved to your homedir as something like "Screenshot - date - time.png" 10:50 RealBadAngel if some1 will try to say it cannot be done 10:50 RealBadAngel lemme find something 10:50 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah, that's a non-starter. meta_set_nodedef. has to be done that way. 10:50 VanessaE 4 bytes would double the size of a map node entry 10:51 reactor VanessaE: I've tried gettext, same results. 10:51 LemonLake http://i.imgur.com/EBtoFSE.png 10:51 VanessaE reactor: weird, 10:51 reactor I haven't tried setting LANG with gettext, though 10:51 LemonLake So the text limiting does not work 10:51 VanessaE LemonLake: what's with the red lines on the left? 10:51 LemonLake That's the world edge 10:52 sea How much space is actually available? 10:52 LemonLake Players cant go beyond it 10:52 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dncEFDQSvkM 10:52 RealBadAngel watch that 10:52 VanessaE sea: in a standard map file, there is exactly 1 byte that can be repurposed for something like this, along with 4 other bits I think 10:52 LemonLake Focus is in the top right on my image 10:53 VanessaE shit, no even param2 can't be repurposed. 10:53 VanessaE these nodes would have facedir. 10:53 VanessaE that means there's only like 3 or 4 bits in one spot and a few bits in another spot that are unused. 10:54 VanessaE there's no way to do this without meta_set_nodedef 10:54 sea How do you know there's no way? Do I get a prize if I could do it? 10:54 LemonLake Yes. 10:54 RealBadAngel a cake 10:55 reactor What exactly should I do? Use both gettext and LANG? 10:55 LemonLake Sea, the cake was a lie 10:55 VanessaE sea: you've got 5 block types (including air). 7 if you count sideways trunks (east/west face, and north/south face). 10:55 * reactor slaps LemonLake 10:55 VanessaE you've got 8 microblocks in a node 10:55 reactor It isn't a lie. 10:55 VanessaE so that's 5^8 possible combinations 10:56 VanessaE no way in hell to do that with raw nodes, we only have a bit over 32700 of those available. 10:56 LemonLake If we store the bits in the meta, that shouldn't be TOO big 10:56 VanessaE in the meta, sure 10:56 sea I'm pretty sure there's a way to do it. 10:56 LemonLake It's only taking around 8 real nodes space 10:56 LemonLake If not less 10:57 sea Do you typically store data for multiple nodes? 10:57 VanessaE but this is something that needs to be run past hmmmm before any code is written 10:57 sea So you'd have this 5^8 combinations for node A, then another 5^8 for node B, and so on? 10:57 VanessaE sea: the 5^8 was just to illustrate that you can't even define that many nodes to do it the "hard" way 10:58 LemonLake scale = {x=100,y=20}, What's wrong here? Why is the text not being limited? 10:59 VanessaE not sure, LemonLake 10:59 LemonLake I might just limit the name to 15 characters 10:59 LemonLake or I can have two/three line death messages but that's a bit annoying 11:02 sea Okay, I think there's a really epic compression scheme that will do what you want. 11:02 LemonLake Compression? 11:02 LemonLake Bits is as small as you're gonna get 11:03 sea Store the information in the spatial relations between multiple nodes and have the nodes themselves only store enough information to calculate how to get their values from the others. 11:04 fireglow Didn't the forums used to be xenforo or something? 11:04 LemonLake Something like that, why? 11:04 sea So you have some starting node A, and you suppose that each node has 8 bits, and you define a particular path across all nodes. Then you suppose the existence of a function that maps onto all acceptable configurations of leaves and so on, and you let node (n) have value f(f((n-1)) + n) 11:05 LemonLake Hmm 11:05 LemonLake Maybe 11:05 fireglow I've just noticed the change, and wondered why 11:05 LemonLake What about just storing the seed? 11:05 sea and then all you have to do is pick an 'f' that encodes 'tree-like-ness' very well 11:05 LemonLake Then generating it on each load? 11:05 LemonLake If it's C++ generated, it'll be fast 11:06 VanessaE fireglow: they used to be punbb 11:07 RealBadAngel have you saw the video i linked? 11:07 LemonLake Yes, why? 11:07 fireglow VanessaE: ah yes, right 11:07 VanessaE reactor: I watched it 11:07 RealBadAngel in mc mod you can build with all the nodes with size of 1/16th of regular one 11:08 LemonLake wrong name :L 11:08 RealBadAngel including redstone 11:08 VanessaE doesn't help us with actually implementing the idea 11:08 LemonLake Yes, but we're trying to understand how we're gonna store those nodes 11:08 RealBadAngel also you can shrink the player 11:08 VanessaE there's only one way to do it. 11:08 LemonLake VanessaE; we're generating the trees here, right? 11:08 LemonLake Why not just store the seed? 11:09 VanessaE LemonLake: moretrees in particular, which are not seeded, they're modeled. 11:09 RealBadAngel would take too long to restore the tree 11:09 RealBadAngel not to mention the damage to the tree done by digging 11:09 LemonLake hm 11:09 RealBadAngel so, forget it ;) 11:09 LemonLake then meta IS the only way 11:10 RealBadAngel i think so 11:10 VanessaE reactor: how far off do you figure nore's rebase of meta_set_nodedef is from current HEAD? 11:10 RealBadAngel either that or highly specialized draw type just for lsystems 11:10 VanessaE (since we DID have it working at the time, and reasonably well) 11:10 VanessaE no, forget the drawtype 11:10 VanessaE do it generically. 11:10 VanessaE it'll be useful later. 11:10 LemonLake ^ 11:11 Eater4 VanessaE: Hi 11:11 VanessaE hi Eater4 11:11 RealBadAngel ofc it will be useful for everything out there 11:11 VanessaE RealBadAngel: how far off do you figure nore's rebase of meta_set_nodedef is from current HEAD? (tab complete FAIL again :-/ ) 11:11 VanessaE (sorry reactor :P ) 11:12 LemonLake do real instead of rea 11:12 rotcaer иНЖАЛИД ДЕЖИЦЕ. 11:12 VanessaE hey now 11:12 LemonLake dafuq 11:12 VanessaE I don't read Cyrillic but a curse is a curse in any language :) 11:13 LemonLake I think it says Invalid Device. 11:13 Eater4 lol 11:13 RealBadAngel VanessaE, we shall ask nore imho 11:14 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah. But we also need to hammer on the other devs to get some agreement to merge the fucking thing once and for all 11:14 RealBadAngel SN will do 11:14 VanessaE I dunno 11:14 VanessaE I think this will need a bit more than just one agree 11:15 RealBadAngel me, nore and sn 11:15 RealBadAngel thats 3 11:15 RealBadAngel enough 11:15 VanessaE yes, but hmmmm will have something to say about it, I think? 11:16 RealBadAngel according to rules yes, but 2 votes of another devs are enough to push anything 11:16 VanessaE yep I know 11:17 VanessaE but I mean, he's the map expert and all 11:17 RealBadAngel even c55 knew that it is needed, he started the work 11:17 RealBadAngel rather mapgen expert, not the map 11:19 RealBadAngel real problem behind the scenes is just storing more data in db 11:19 RealBadAngel nothing more 11:20 RealBadAngel and we are already pushing there lotsa data 11:20 RealBadAngel with raising limit of active entities for example 11:20 LemonLake Does the sky go black when near the world edge? 11:20 VanessaE but wasn't there a big issue with the network side of things? 11:20 VanessaE LemonLake: no 11:20 RealBadAngel each node can already have its meta 11:20 LemonLake Weird 11:20 LemonLake When at the world border and looking down-ish, the sky goes black 11:21 VanessaE LemonLake: it does that no matter where you are 11:21 LemonLake Oh, okay 11:21 VanessaE (personally I consider that a bug) 11:21 LemonLake Same 11:21 RealBadAngel dont look down, you may fall into black hole ; 11:22 VanessaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JYkMhQ9gf8 11:22 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ^^^^ 11:23 LemonLake Yeah, I don't believe it 11:23 LemonLake The sky isn't distorted enough 11:25 RealBadAngel hehe 11:30 VanessaE ok, I'm outta here. need sleep 11:30 VanessaE night :) 11:30 VanessaE (or something) 11:30 LemonLake Cy 11:30 LemonLake a 11:31 rotcaer Is there a way to make DM's energy pellets fly faster? 11:32 rotcaer Also, can a player launch them? 11:46 sfan5 meow 11:46 sfan5 hi everyone 11:47 rotcaer hi every512 11:49 * LemonLake mewos at sfan5 11:49 LemonLake mewos... 11:49 LemonLake genius 11:49 LemonLake bloody genius 11:49 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake 11:49 fireglow mew mew 11:49 Exio4 hihihihi 11:49 Exio4 how is it going wild shibes 11:50 LemonLake shit, wbu? 11:50 rotcaer wild who? 11:50 sfan5 http://redd.it/26ja4i 11:50 sfan5 lol 11:51 Exio4 LemonLake: same 11:51 LemonLake "you're an encoder" 11:51 LemonLake "What do you encode in? UTF-8?" 11:51 LemonLake this fuckin guy 11:54 LemonLake Yo asie 11:57 LemonLake I might just go on okcupid just to troll the developers. 11:57 sfan5 uhh. why? 11:57 LemonLake I get bored often. 11:58 LemonLake Do text hud elements have alpha values? 12:03 rotcaer So, does anyone else notice HUD disappearing? 12:03 raffahacks What is okcupid 12:05 raffahacks Lemonlake 12:05 LemonLake Dw about it 12:23 raffahacks This chan's too quiet... 12:24 LemonLake It's normal. 12:24 sfan5 ^ 12:33 LemonLake Slowly getting there... 12:33 nman3600 lol hi 12:33 LemonLake Can you draw in the loading screen? 12:34 LemonLake Me did it! 12:34 rotcaer So the HUD? 12:34 LemonLake Yeah. 12:34 LemonLake Add a little message like 'Loading from previous save. This may take a while' 12:35 LemonLake Because otherwise, it looks like the game has frozen on 'Connecting to server...' 12:35 LemonLake Nman, cmere 12:37 LemonLake Hmm, the multiple death messages doesn't work 13:03 LemonLake Okay, the counter finally works 13:03 LemonLake I just need to turn down the spacing, then after that I need to make them automatically go back to the top when one is removed 13:13 LemonLake +RealBadAngel hmmmm is here if you wanted to speak to him about your idea 13:15 nman3600 :( i missed sethblings livestream by a few hours 13:15 LemonLake I watched the whole thing 13:16 nman3600 was it good? 13:17 LemonLake meh 13:17 PenguinDad sethbling? 13:17 LemonLake he was building a picture of guude the entire time 13:17 LemonLake for 3 hours 13:17 LemonLake not all that 13:17 nman3600 PenguinDad the youtuber 13:20 sfan5 PenguinDad: popular MC youtuber 13:20 LemonLake does redstone n' shit 13:38 reactor updated the game, now HUD is there, apart from the health bar. 13:38 reactor And no footsteps sound. 14:01 kaeza mornings 14:01 LemonLake Wrong channel, yo 14:08 * sfan5 meows at kaeza 14:09 * kaeza purrs at sfan5 14:10 * Jordach purrs at both sfan5 and kaeza 14:10 Jordach <- not playing skyrim, honestly 14:10 * CraigyDavi woofs at sfan5, kaeza and Jordach 14:10 * sfan5 meows at CraigyDavi 14:10 * CraigyDavi barks at sfan5 14:14 * sfan5 flips CraigyDavi 14:16 * CraigyDavi howls 14:24 LemonLake Brb, having sound issues 14:53 ShadowNinja LemonLake: You need to create the ace.textures table. Add "ace.textures = {}" at the top of wieldview.lua. 14:53 lemonlake_ ShadowNinja 14:54 lemonlake_ I solved that problem a long time ago 14:54 lemonlake_ Also, in init.lua, there's ace = { textures = {}, } etc 14:55 lemonlake_ It was the item that was nil 14:55 ShadowNinja lemonlake_: O.K. good. :-) I noticed that git hadn't been updated and assumed it wasn't fixed. 14:55 lemonlake_ I don't update the public repo often 14:55 lemonlake_ I haven't updated anything since I got the linux 14:56 lemonlake_ wut 14:56 ShadowNinja I update my repos frequently. They're a backup if my computer dies. 14:56 lemonlake_ I've never liked using Git 14:57 ShadowNinja <3 git. 14:57 ShadowNinja You just have to learn to use it. See the tutorials on git-scm.org. 14:57 lemonlake_ I know how to use Git. 14:57 lemonlake_ I've used it for 6 years. 14:58 lemonlake_ I just dislike it because it clutters up my workspace unnecessarily. 14:58 ShadowNinja Ah, O.K. It only adds .git files/folder though, which are hidden. 14:58 lemonlake_ And hidden files are always shown for me 14:59 ShadowNinja Not unless you use ls -a, have a file manager that doesn't handle them well, or, possibly, are using Windows. 15:14 lemonlake_ I may have to make the worlds far less complex 15:14 lemonlake_ They take way too long to generate and load 15:16 realtinymonster anyone want a Google AdWords coupon? 15:16 lemonlake_ That's a thing? 15:16 realtinymonster yep 15:17 realtinymonster i got one in the mail for no reason, and i don't want it 15:17 lemonlake_ Fair enough 15:17 realtinymonster do you want it lemonlake_ ? 15:17 lemonlake_ I don't run any sites that have ads 15:17 lemonlake_ So no thanks 15:17 realtinymonster well 15:18 realtinymonster difference 15:18 realtinymonster AdWORDS is the ads in the google search engine 15:18 lemonlake_ By that I mean I don't have any sites that I want in the sidebar 15:18 lemonlake_ I know what adwords is. 15:18 lemonlake_ If I was a web developer, why would I not? 15:18 realtinymonster ah 15:18 realtinymonster lol 15:18 realtinymonster good point 15:18 lemonlake_ Plus most of my customers are expected to either have an adblock or ignore that part, so no point. 15:19 realtinymonster yeah 15:19 realtinymonster anyone else! 15:19 realtinymonster Krock! 15:20 Krock hi 15:20 lemonlake_ Want an Adwords coupon/ 15:20 lemonlake_ ? 15:20 Krock I'm scared 15:21 realtinymonster why? 15:21 Krock ^ 15:22 Krock cuz of you 15:22 realtinymonster what's so scary? 15:22 Krock the monstr 15:22 realtinymonster i'm a friendly soft monster 15:23 realtinymonster (LOL) 15:23 lemonlake_ yeah right 15:23 * Krock is still trying to fix his xban2 rework 15:23 realtinymonster lemonlake_: D: 15:24 lemonlake_ Megaf and vazon are working on this global ban thing 15:24 * realtinymonster cries softly in the corner 15:24 lemonlake_ which I think is pretty neat 15:24 Krock globa ban? 15:24 realtinymonster how about Nanof? 15:24 Krock *global 15:24 realtinymonster :P 15:25 lemonlake_ basically, an admin can type /globalban to a user and supply a reason 15:25 lemonlake_ they get banned from that server 15:25 lemonlake_ but if they have 3 valid bans with reason, they're banned from all servers for a month 15:25 lemonlake_ valid bans with reason = 3 bans, on different servers, with a reason supplied at once 15:25 Amaz That seems strict... 15:25 realtinymonster could be overused, making minetest servers horrible 15:26 lemonlake_ yeah they wanted me to help but i wasnt interested 15:26 Amaz And how would it work? 15:26 realtinymonster speaking of minetest, what is the results of the 3rd person mode? 15:26 lemonlake_ bans would be stored in an online MySQL database 15:27 lemonlake_ its been existant for ages? 15:27 Krock #norulesserverftw 15:27 realtinymonster ^ easily hackable 15:27 lemonlake_ nope 15:27 lemonlake_ it would be handled in an AJAX request 15:27 lemonlake_ easily unhackable 15:27 Krock easily hackable* 15:27 lemonlake_ either way 15:28 lemonlake_ i saw many flaws with the plan 15:28 Amaz 3rd person mode seems quite glitcy at the moment... 15:28 realtinymonster :( 15:28 lemonlake_ so i just decided not to work on it 15:28 lemonlake_ Amaz: third person mode works perfectly fine? 15:28 lemonlake_ whatever just happened there 15:29 realtinymonster i was hoping to use that in my game! D,: 15:29 lemonlake_ globalbans? 15:29 realtinymonster ni 15:29 lemonlake_ what? 15:29 realtinymonster 3rd person 15:29 lemonlake_ it works perfectly fine... 15:29 realtinymonster I can't use if its glitchy 15:29 lemonlake_ its in base engine 15:29 Amaz It may just be me, but if I wear armor, then I can see the armor for a instat at certain times in 1st person mode... Which can be a bit irritating. 15:29 lemonlake_ 3d armor and third person are perfect for me 15:29 Amaz Yep. It's first person that is the glitchy thing. 15:29 lemonlake_ And first person... 15:30 realtinymonster hmm 15:30 lemonlake_ have you posted a bug report? 15:30 Amaz Nope. 15:30 realtinymonster #moontest I go! 15:30 lemonlake_ It's most likely a system related issue, so post your specs and a bug report on either the forum post or github if there is one for 3darmor 15:30 Amaz Okay. 15:32 realtinymonster its the Big F! 15:32 lemonlake_ the big f_ 15:32 lemonlake_ the big flying flip 15:32 realtinymonster lol 15:32 realtinymonster Megaf_: ^ 15:33 Megaf_ Hi all 15:34 lemonlake_ How can I get the index that I just inserted into a table? 15:34 kaeza you can't 15:34 kaeza you must keep track of that yourself 15:34 lemonlake_ Dang 15:35 kaeza (before inserting) 15:35 lemonlake_ See I'm removing it 4.5 seconds later 15:35 lemonlake_ Oh there's my problem. 15:35 lemonlake_ I'm removing it then accessing it. 15:35 lemonlake_ Wait, no 15:45 lemonlake_ Hm 15:45 realtinymonster hmmm 15:45 lemonlake_ I'm gonna get SourceTree and push to git in a minute, I think I'm gonna need some help here 15:46 realtinymonster using git or what? lemonlake_ 15:46 lemonlake_ Something else, I'll say if I don't solve it 15:46 realtinymonster ok 15:47 reactor ...hmm 15:47 reactor Tablet players can't reload the gun! 15:47 realtinymonster hmm? 15:48 realtinymonster tablet players of what can't reload the gun reactor? 15:48 PenguinDad they're much easier to beat then :D 15:48 lemonlake_ You mean like android players? 15:50 lemonlake_ I'm gonna record this little issue first 15:50 kaeza reactor, tell the players to ditch Buildcrap and get the real one 15:50 lemonlake_ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 15:50 lemonlake_ tbh I think it should stay on computers 15:50 Amaz ^ 15:50 lemonlake_ mobile support shouldn't be able to connect to pc servers 15:51 Amaz ^ 15:51 kaeza ↑ 15:51 realtinymonster  15:51 realtinymonster  15:51 realtinymonster hi 15:51 lemonlake_ I don't understand this keyboard layout 15:52 lemonlake_ ←↓→ but where's the up arrow D: 15:52 reactor realtinymonster: idk 15:52 reactor If there's technical compatibility, no need to break it. 15:53 reactor But I wonder why not use right mouse button for reload. 15:53 kaeza AltGr+Shift+U=↑ 15:53 lemonlake_ because that's for zoom 15:53 kaeza lemonlake_, ^ 15:53 lemonlake_ ↑ 15:53 lemonlake_ ah neat 15:53 lemonlake_ thanks mate 15:53 reactor ah zoom 15:53 lemonlake_ I'm used to the windows keyboard layout, they usually only support the right accents 15:53 lemonlake_ with alt gr 15:53 lemonlake_ and euro 15:53 lemonlake_ €eæ↓→ø which are now those 15:54 lemonlake_ :L 15:54 realtinymonster lemonlake_: you on linux? 15:54 reactor ↓€€↑ 15:54 lemonlake_ Mint 15:54 Amaz ¥ 15:54 lemonlake_ Best decision I ever made 15:55 realtinymonster yes 15:55 lemonlake_ I used to have a slow crappy laptop with a really old linux on it 15:55 * kaeza is running Ubuntu 14.04 on a VM, with Windows 7 as host 15:55 lemonlake_ Then I got windows 7 15:55 lemonlake_ Then I got this OS in a VM but it sucked 15:55 lemonlake_ So I dual-booted. Best decision ever 15:56 lemonlake_ Both operating systems, same specs, switchable with two keyboard strokes. 15:56 realtinymonster lemonlake_: Ctrl + shift + U, let go U, type unicode code, then let go ctrl + shift 15:56 lemonlake_ whoaaa 15:56 lemonlake_ guys 15:56 lemonlake_ all these linux tricks are epic 15:56 lemonlake_ why have I never seen these before 15:57 SylvieLorxu Note: That only works in GNOME 15:57 realtinymonster text is sarcasm free... 15:57 realtinymonster no! 15:57 SylvieLorxu Yes. 15:57 realtinymonster SylvieLorxu: it works on KDE too 15:57 SylvieLorxu Since when? 15:57 lemonlake_ ޅ 15:57 lemonlake_ It works on this one. 15:57 lemonlake_ ģ 15:57 SylvieLorxu What is "this one"? 15:57 realtinymonster since Linux Mint Petra KDE i guess :P 15:57 lemonlake_ Mint 16 Cinnammon 15:57 realtinymonster yay! 15:58 realtinymonster cinnamon works too 15:58 SylvieLorxu Hmm, last time I tried that on KDE it didn't work because KDE had their own way of doing that 15:58 * Calinou had to boot on older kernel… 15:58 SylvieLorxu And of course it works on Cinnamon, Cinnamon == GNOME 15:58 * realtinymonster doesn't cade about old kernels 15:58 lemonlake_ http://i.imgur.com/l9yiKtY.png 15:58 realtinymonster *care 15:58 lemonlake_ I actually have a 2TB SSD. 15:59 lemonlake_ But it's split into two, the first half is for OS. 15:59 lemonlake_ That's partitioned 15:59 realtinymonster I have a face! 15:59 lemonlake_ hence 410gb 15:59 realtinymonster and a nose! 15:59 sfan5 I actually have a 2TB SSD. 15:59 lemonlake_ That's neat. 15:59 sfan5 isn't that expensive? 15:59 lemonlake_ Well it's a custom built rig 15:59 Calinou I actually have a 2TB SSD. 15:59 Calinou which one? cost? 15:59 lemonlake_ Actually 15:59 sfan5 yeah but a 2TB SSD is still very expensive 15:59 lemonlake_ It might not be an SSD 15:59 lemonlake_ I don't remember. 16:00 Calinou SSHD is not a SSD 16:00 lemonlake_ it was years ago 16:00 Calinou WD Black² isn't one either 16:00 Calinou sfan5, doesn't exist in mainstream 16:00 realtinymonster hmm? 16:00 Calinou 1TB at most in mainstream 16:00 sfan5 Calinou: I know that 16:00 Calinou which is pretty big already 16:00 lemonlake_ Oh, it's a SATA 16:00 realtinymonster Calinou: WD Black2 isn't? 16:00 Calinou it's HDD with 128GB SSD in it. 16:00 Calinou it's the first Windrive 16:00 Calinou (SSD only usable on Windows) 16:00 realtinymonster lol 16:00 Krock must get that one. 16:01 sfan5 Calinou: the ssd works on linux too 16:01 Krock ..or not 16:01 Krock (finishing my words, not those from sfan) 16:01 Calinou the SSD part of the WD Black²? are yo usure? 16:01 sfan5 yes 16:01 Calinou at launch day it didn't 16:07 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9253&p=142916#p142916 → this post is too damn right 16:07 Calinou 100% smartwatch approved 16:17 lemonlake_ brb 16:21 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:21 realtinymonster hi 16:24 * rubenwardy has finally made the list! http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 16:25 realtinymonster so exciting! 16:25 realtinymonster good job! 16:28 Vazon Congratz! 16:32 Megaf_ anyone know how to solve this? 16:32 Megaf_ "xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display 0 " 16:32 Megaf_ it's an intel gma hd 3000 16:32 Megaf_ with Linux mint 16:35 lemonlake_ Grats rubenwardy! 16:36 rubenwardy (two bugs fixed in quick successon in NBE) 16:37 realtinymonster "just think, we make more commits to moontest in a few" 16:37 realtinymonster weeks than the others make to minetest_game in a few 16:37 realtinymonster months" 16:37 realtinymonster - #moontest 16:37 Krock why are mapblocks 16x16x16 while mapgen blocks are about 80x80x80? 16:38 lemonlake_ 5x5x5 mapblocks 16:38 Krock ah okay 16:39 Calinou mapgen blocks are 80 × 80 × 80? TIL 16:39 Krock they are. 16:39 rubenwardy Please bug find! NBE: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2840 16:40 rubenwardy Calinou: can you try and build the latest version, to see if you get the same problem? 16:41 Krock #chunksize = 5 <-- possibly is that the 5x5x5 factor 16:43 realtinymonster they have GPL and LGPL and BSD and MIT licences, but no CC BY-SA 2.0 16:43 realtinymonster and they even have cc0 16:43 realtinymonster ^github 16:43 * realtinymonster headdesks 16:44 Calinou CC licenses (except CC0) are GPL incompatible, don't use for software 16:44 * Calinou shakes glass of wine 16:44 realtinymonster ok 16:44 realtinymonster hmm 16:44 Calinou they are also not intended for software anyway 16:44 realtinymonster what should I use for purely textures? 16:44 Calinou CC0, CC BY, CC BY-SA… 16:44 Calinou the CC licenses are fine for art 16:44 Calinou (this includes writings or documentation) 16:45 realtinymonster can you GPL art? 16:45 Krock WTFPL 16:45 realtinymonster ^CC0 16:45 Krock WTFPL sounds nicer 16:45 realtinymonster lol 16:45 Calinou yes you can 16:45 Calinou not recommended, but it can be done just fine 16:45 Calinou (GPL is intended for software) 16:45 lemonlake_ omfg finally 16:45 Calinou Krock, WTFPL is a bad license 16:45 realtinymonster the unlicence sounds even cooler 16:45 lemonlake_ i actually have some video drivers now 16:45 realtinymonster lol 16:45 Calinou no warranty disclaimer, bad language 16:46 Calinou use CC0 or Unlicense instead 16:46 Krock CC licenses (except CC0) are GPL incompatible, don't use for software 16:46 Krock why always GPL? 16:46 realtinymonster i have never heard of the unlicence until just now 16:46 Krock wtf, every license if good 16:46 Krock *is 16:46 lemonlake_ i like wtfpl 16:46 Calinou GPL incompatibility is gratuitous trouble 16:46 lemonlake_ why 16:46 Krock trouble with...? 16:46 Calinou if you merge stuff? 16:46 kaeza GPL is not the center of the universe 16:46 lemonlake_ ^ 16:46 realtinymonster GPL is incompatible with real life 16:47 Calinou there are other GNU licenses 16:47 Krock Merge stuff from a (example) CC0 into a CC0 project? no problem 16:47 Calinou realtinymonster, Minetest is LGPL 16:47 Calinou might not want to play it if you think so 16:47 Krock zlib license is also very nice 16:47 lemonlake_ yeah but if its all completely custom incompatability is no issue 16:47 realtinymonster Calinou: GPL != LGPL :P 16:47 lemonlake_ ^ 16:47 Krock ^ 16:48 lemonlake_ aight dudes 16:48 * kaeza is on the BSD side of the holy war 16:48 lemonlake_ see year in bit 16:48 lemonlake_ rebooting 16:48 lemonlake_ b;b;b;;b;b;b;;b;; 16:48 * Krock gives lemonlake_ BSoD 16:48 * realtinymonster gives Krock RSoD 16:49 * Krock catches; installs 16:49 Krock peer, why did you do this? 16:49 LemonLake wut did ah miss 16:49 Krock - lemonlake_ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:49 Krock this 16:49 LemonLake peer... 16:49 kaeza Minetest 1.0 is out!! 16:50 LemonLake peer you asshole 16:50 LemonLake is it? 16:50 LemonLake wait what 16:50 Krock lol 16:50 Krock OMG 16:50 Krock really!! 16:50 LemonLake hold on 16:50 Calinou Calinou: GPL != LGPL :P 16:50 kaeza yes, in the five seconds you were out, they released it !! 16:50 Krock 16:50 LemonLake im confused 16:50 Calinou similar stuff happens 16:50 Calinou but anyway, CC licenses are not made for software 16:50 LemonLake that was 5 seconds? 16:50 LemonLake jesus, my pc doesnt boot that fast 16:50 Krock WTFPL is perfect for software 16:50 LemonLake i love wtfpl 16:51 Krock +1 16:51 * sfan5 meows at Krock 16:51 * Krock meows at sfan5 16:51 * Krock does what kittens do when they get stroked ... RRRRrrrRRRRR 16:52 * Krock walks to LemonLake's foot 16:52 Krock RRRRrrrRRRRR 16:52 realtinymonster lol 16:52 * LemonLake initally is confused then realise that there's a fucking cat on his foot 16:52 realtinymonster lol 16:52 rubenwardy Why is the cat fucking your foot? 16:52 LemonLake no 16:52 sfan5 ^ 16:52 CraigyDavi lol 16:52 LemonLake the cat is fucking itself 16:52 * Krock isn't fucking 16:52 realtinymonster lol 16:52 Krock lol 16:52 LemonLake owned 16:52 CraigyDavi lol 16:53 Krock haha 16:53 rubenwardy Oh, this is irrating 16:53 LemonLake you 16:53 LemonLake just 16:53 LemonLake got 16:53 LemonLake owned 16:53 * sfan5 meows at rubenwardy 16:53 * Krock points at realtinymonster and laughts 16:53 rubenwardy This is impossible to find: https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/issues/27 16:54 LemonLake Most likely to do with menubars 16:54 Krock compiling bug? 16:54 rubenwardy no, it is not 16:54 nman3600 hi 16:54 rubenwardy LemonLake 16:54 rubenwardy I have singled that out 16:54 LemonLake Oh. 16:54 LemonLake Just offset it 15 pixels? 16:54 sfan5 huh? 16:55 rubenwardy It changes depending on screen size 16:55 LemonLake oh... 16:55 LemonLake im stumped then 16:55 sfan5 huh?? 16:55 Krock set offset to sreen size + 15 16:55 sfan5 huh??? 16:55 Krock s/+/* 16:55 LemonLake holy shit krock no 16:56 Krock holy cow! yes 16:56 LemonLake let's assume the screen size is 1920 x 1080 16:56 LemonLake *15 16:56 rubenwardy I mean size of window :P 16:56 sfan5 huh???? 16:56 LemonLake 28800 x 16200 16:56 LemonLake that's the offset 16:56 rubenwardy sfan5: This is impossible to find: https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/issues/27 16:56 sfan5 someome please tell me wher this came from https://cdn.mediacru.sh/gjbEsYJTG-N3.png 16:56 Krock LemonLake, know pseudocode? 16:57 sfan5 why do I have this on my HDD 16:57 sfan5 where did it come from 16:57 sfan5 I don't even know 16:57 LemonLake Krock, yes I do, why? 16:57 sfan5 someone 16:57 Krock it inserts something into a MySQL database 16:57 rubenwardy It is something to do with 2d points on the screen to 3d positions, and 3d positions to 2d points. I think 16:58 Krock LemonLake, I used it be4 16:58 Mikerhinos hi 16:58 LemonLake That's just a sql table. 16:58 sfan5 Krock: I'm not that dumb 16:58 sfan5 LemonLake: yeah, I'm wondering where this came from 16:58 LemonLake It inserts entities. 16:58 LemonLake Oh. 16:58 LemonLake There's some pure lua entity thing, maybe that? 16:59 Krock sfan5, exported it from somewhere? 16:59 sfan5 in the same folder there is also a zombie wave mod coded for the mobs mod api 16:59 sfan5 simple mobs* 16:59 microplum Because I said so. 16:59 reactor /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lintl 16:59 sfan5 Krock: yes, but I dunno from where 16:59 * Krock isn't sure if 'tiny' < 'micro' 16:59 reactor But libintl is in /usr/local/lib! 16:59 LemonLake Micro is smaller than tiny. 16:59 sfan5 reactor: tried -L/usr/local/lib? 17:00 reactor Yeah. 17:01 Mikerhinos found a huuuuuge lava cave in Minetest Carbone with water flows everywhere, creating the biggest obsidian source I've ever seen lol https://mediacru.sh/9-iY8b04SqDd 17:01 LemonLake WHOA 17:01 LemonLake that's so flippin cool 17:01 reactor If you mean LDFLAGS 17:01 reactor sfan5: or should I use it with cmake? 17:02 LemonLake wait what 17:02 LemonLake omg 17:02 LemonLake i dont think sublime text saved properly 17:02 LemonLake o no 17:02 sfan5 reactor: no, ldflags 17:02 LemonLake oh nevermind i just didnt read my code right 17:02 reactor just LDFLAGS env? 17:03 Krock Mikerhinos, smaaaaal 17:03 Krock *tiny 17:04 Krock Mikerhinos, http://i.imgur.com/cbJFFly.png http://i.imgur.com/x2JYPYb.png 17:04 Mikerhinos Krock: that's the biggest that I found since I play Minetest lol 17:04 sfan5 reactor: -DCMAKE_LINKING_FLAGS or something like that, you can find the exact var in the GUI with advanced mode enabled 17:05 Mikerhinos Krock: not sure that yours is bigger (the cave, lol) 17:05 Krock Mikerhinos, you can force them to get bigger 17:05 Krock I could crate a XXXXL cave.. 17:05 Mikerhinos yes but I'm with default parameters 17:06 Krock Mikerhinos, check out the tiny lava caves in my lua mapgen :P 17:07 Mikerhinos don't know if Calinou changed anything, because it's from Carbone 17:08 Krock Mikerhinos, all default-changes here: https://github.com/Calinou/carbone/blob/master/minetest.conf 17:10 Mikerhinos nothing special with the caves, I guess I was lucky lol up on surface there are trees and sand, it's a small paradise lol (and almost at default spawn area 0,0,0) 17:13 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/source/491e761feaf911139e30ecc2b3a30f45f3425018:minetest.conf 17:13 Calinou actually 17:14 Calinou cave generation is very similar, but liquid springs and air springs will generate 17:14 Calinou air springs are 10 × 10 × 10 at most 17:14 Calinou they appear deep 17:14 Calinou the lava lakes on the screenshot can appear in minetest_next too 17:14 LemonLake ^ 17:16 realtinymonster who want's to see an ugly gravel texture? 17:16 LemonLake me me me 17:17 realtinymonster LemonLake: zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gravel.png 17:18 LemonLake its literally just noise 17:18 realtinymonster lol 17:18 realtinymonster its actually not computer generated 17:19 realtinymonster what can I say, I suck at drawing some things 17:19 Calinou you don't generate most textures with noise only 17:19 Calinou realtinymonster, see Carbone's gravel ;) 17:20 rubenwardy !title https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/commit/be90ff4257c3c9c73fc4ae03e4ee5a3e5fd11dd5 17:20 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Temporary fix for top right viewport · be90ff4 · rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor · GitHub 17:20 rubenwardy LemonLake :( 17:20 LemonLake whats up 17:21 realtinymonster Calinou: :( 17:21 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/source/491e761feaf911139e30ecc2b3a30f45f3425018:mods/default/textures/default_gravel.png 17:21 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/raw/491e761feaf911139e30ecc2b3a30f45f3425018:mods/default/textures/default_gravel.png → lol, it opens it directly 17:21 Calinou binary format 17:22 realtinymonster all i have to work with is shitty MS Paint 17:22 LemonLake Try paint.net 17:22 LemonLake Or gimp 17:22 realtinymonster nope 17:22 LemonLake I use photoshop doe 17:22 realtinymonster and noope 17:22 realtinymonster and nope 17:22 Calinou GIMP! 17:22 LemonLake nope nope nope? 17:22 Calinou or Aseprite 17:22 realtinymonster yes 17:22 LemonLake did you even try them? 17:22 realtinymonster nope 17:22 cisoun +1 for gimp 17:22 realtinymonster yeah i have 17:22 LemonLake why nope 17:22 Krock +1 for PDN 17:23 realtinymonster beacause this is a no-install computer :/ 17:23 LemonLake pdn is my favourite free photo editor 17:23 LemonLake well, image editor 17:23 LemonLake a no-install computer? 17:23 LemonLake what the hell is that? 17:23 realtinymonster yep 17:23 Krock (doesn't install computers) 17:23 realtinymonster you can't install anything 17:23 LemonLake why that 17:23 realtinymonster its a bug 17:23 cisoun Chuck Norris style : write a PNG file with vim. 17:23 LemonLake 'a bug' 17:24 LemonLake that is the biggest piece of invalid information i have ever heard 17:24 rubenwardy It is a feature! 17:24 Krock not a bug, it's a HUGE fail 17:24 LemonLake ^ 17:24 realtinymonster lol 17:24 LemonLake a few suggestions: 17:24 LemonLake understand how computers actually work 17:24 LemonLake check your user account settings 17:24 Krock like: 010010000001001101 17:24 LemonLake dont use the library computer 17:25 realtinymonster LemonLake: I know how to use a computer, I have, the admin account disappeared, this is my home computer 17:25 realtinymonster Krock: lol 17:25 LemonLake in which case, that's not a bug 17:25 LemonLake you just dont have any permissions to install 17:25 LemonLake open cmd 17:26 realtinymonster ok... 17:26 LemonLake run it as an admin 17:26 Krock realtinymonster, start in safe mode and make it working again.. 17:26 LemonLake (type cmd into search, right click then run as admin) 17:26 rubenwardy try googling for answers 17:26 LemonLake actually yeah 17:26 realtinymonster well 17:26 LemonLake launch in safe mode with command prompt 17:26 LemonLake then do net user administrator /active:yes 17:26 rubenwardy "I can't log into my admin account 17:26 Krock is it even a Win computer? 17:26 realtinymonster when the UAC comes up it says that it couldn't find any admins 17:27 realtinymonster Krock: yes, you idiot 17:27 LemonLake WOAH WOAH WOAH 17:27 LemonLake that was uncalled for! 17:27 Krock thx for the compliment 17:27 realtinymonster Krock: any time :D 17:27 LemonLake how the flying fuck did you manage to lose your admin account 17:27 Krock realtinymonster, plz repeat it 5 times again :D 17:28 LemonLake what kind of porn subscription did you download to get that 17:28 realtinymonster lol 17:28 Krock LemonLake, tihnk of the kids here 17:28 LemonLake shhh 17:28 Krock (or FBI agentss) 17:28 realtinymonster lol 17:28 LemonLake go to sleep kids 17:28 realtinymonster including me? 17:28 Krock kids are actually FBI agents 17:28 LemonLake indeed 17:28 LemonLake yes you too realtiny 17:28 realtinymonster i could be concidered a 'kid' 17:29 LemonLake how that 17:29 LemonLake http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-the-hidden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/ 17:29 LemonLake first result in google 17:29 realtinymonster *windows 7 17:29 realtinymonster :P 17:29 LemonLake yeah, its for windows 7. 17:29 LemonLake it's exactly the same. 17:29 realtinymonster its not 17:29 LemonLake it also has windows 8 instructions. 17:29 LemonLake did you even read it 17:29 realtinymonster meh 17:30 realtinymonster why post it under vista! 17:30 Krock #windowsXPforthewin 17:30 LemonLake "Enable the (Hidden) Administrator Account on Windows 7, 8, or Vista" 17:30 * rubenwardy might play SH1 17:30 realtinymonster vista shucks 17:30 LemonLake because they edited the post 17:30 Calinou shit 1 17:30 LemonLake so they dont have to fucking rewrite it 17:30 LemonLake L O G I C 17:30 Krock Calinou, +1 17:30 realtinymonster LemonLake: lol 17:30 LemonLake final suggestion: get linux 17:30 realtinymonster gaghaghahgahgahghaghaghahghaghaghahgahghaghahgahg 17:30 LemonLake linux saves lives 17:30 realtinymonster Linux breaks computers 17:30 * Krock slaps LemonLake 17:30 LemonLake lol no 17:31 * Krock tabs realtinymonster 17:31 LemonLake since when does linux break computers 17:31 realtinymonster i've been tabbed? 17:31 * PenguinDad slaps Krock and realtinymonster 17:31 realtinymonster LemonLake: ever since they could go out of date 17:31 LemonLake umm what 17:31 * Krock roundhousekicks PenguinDad 17:31 realtinymonster Krock: Chuck Norris! 17:31 Krock ^^ 17:32 * Jordach BFGs Krock 17:32 Krock *BFD? 17:32 realtinymonster Jordach: WOOO Doom! 17:32 PenguinDad Krock: Big Fucking Gun (Doom FTW) 17:32 kaeza Linux breaks computers <-- and Windows doesn't 17:32 realtinymonster lol 17:32 Krock doom? okay, it's google time 17:32 realtinymonster its an old video game 17:32 kaeza :| 17:33 kaeza >doesn't know Doom 17:33 realtinymonster lol 17:33 kaeza Krock, just WTF 17:33 LemonLake >doesnt give ten shits 17:33 LemonLake realtinymonster 17:33 Krock kaeza, why wtf? 17:33 LemonLake LemonLake: ever since they could go out of date 17:33 LemonLake please clarify 17:33 Krock I don't know doom - that's true 17:33 realtinymonster >doesnt give one hundred shits 17:34 realtinymonster LemonLake: my computer is old 17:34 LemonLake that may be your issue 17:34 LemonLake but at least try to solve the issue than being stubborn, insulting and ignorant 17:34 LemonLake https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+7+admin+account+is+gone 17:34 kaeza ^ 17:34 LemonLake here's a google search. 17:34 LemonLake have fun. 17:34 realtinymonster ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 17:34 Krock LemonLake, wrong usage 17:34 realtinymonster its Google! 17:35 LemonLake 'wrong usage' 17:35 Krock http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+7+admin+account+is+gone 17:35 Krock ^ 17:35 LemonLake i was lazy to go to it 17:35 LemonLake :P 17:35 realtinymonster Nobody in their right mind uses google anymore 17:35 Calinou ^ 17:36 Krock yup. I use bing. M$ for the win 17:36 * Calinou puts john_minetest on Princess Lua 17:36 LemonLake realtinymonster 17:36 Calinou 17:36 LemonLake I'm sure you can replace 'google' with a search engine of your choice. 17:36 rubenwardy I use duckduckgo, and then do !g 17:36 LemonLake It's not that difficult. 17:36 rubenwardy Jokes 17:36 LemonLake Infact, it's pretty simple. 17:36 kaeza Krock, there's also http://www.giyf.com/ 17:36 LemonLake Want me to give you super detailed instructions? 17:36 Krock kaeza, true :) 17:37 realtinymonster LemonLake: nope 17:37 LemonLake Then use a search engine. It's not hard to find a solution there. 17:37 realtinymonster What i should really like is for you to stop pestering me 17:37 LemonLake Okay then. 17:37 Krock kaeza, but it misses a moving cursor to show how to google. 17:37 kaeza Krock, but it has >Someone thinks you're too lazy to use Google before asking a question. Now someone is tired of answering stupid questions and sent you a link to this site to point out that you can easily find the answer yourself. Please do so. 17:38 Calinou Vimeo isn't any better 17:38 Calinou it tells people to use Flash daily 17:38 LemonLake ^ 17:38 rubenwardy New build of the node box editor for windows, with some bugs fixed: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=142976#p142976 17:38 Calinou you can use youtube-dl, or even the thing that lets you use playlists in your terminal 17:38 Krock kaeza, okay, both are good. 17:38 LemonLake hell yeah @rubenwardy 17:38 LemonLake I may be using the NBE a lot later on in Ace of Picks when I start adding nodes 17:39 LemonLake Right now I'm still working on death messages 17:39 Calinou the embedded videos will all say “ can't be played with your setup” 17:39 Calinou YouTube videos show up properly when embedded 17:39 Calinou Vimeo's don't 17:39 LemonLake ^ 17:39 LemonLake Well, ^@calinou 17:39 reactor What's the deal with inventory HUD suddenly disappearing?! 17:39 Krock interesting, I can't use vimeo without flashplayer 17:39 Calinou it never worked for me, unlike YouTube 17:39 Calinou (Firefox 29, no Flash installed) 17:40 Calinou maybe it dislikes my AdBlock or /etc/hosts file 17:40 PenguinDad It works perfectly for me (Firefox 32, no Flash, Adblock Edge) 17:40 realtinymonster hehe I have gotten in front! 17:41 LemonLake ^? 17:41 realtinymonster damn 17:41 realtinymonster PenguinDad did too 17:41 realtinymonster LemonLake: Firefox 32 17:42 LemonLake ahh 17:42 realtinymonster john_minetest: ever heard of beta and nightly? 17:42 realtinymonster :P 17:42 LemonLake ^ 17:43 LemonLake I think they're actually on 33 in a few days/weeks 17:43 realtinymonster :O 17:43 LemonLake No guarantee but I heard it somewhere 17:43 LemonLake Yes, john_minetest 17:43 realtinymonster I feel left behind.... 17:43 LemonLake I remember back when it was at firefox 3 for like years 17:43 Calinou better and better* 17:44 LemonLake suddenly, 'Download now! Firefox 60385!' 17:44 Calinou it's not bad to have such versioning 17:44 realtinymonster lol 17:44 Calinou I don't understand the (IMO unwarranted) hate for it 17:44 Calinou way better than confusing “.10“ like “3.10” 17:44 Calinou GNOME 2.32 anyone? :p 17:44 LemonLake ^ 17:45 LemonLake God damn my depressed autistic mind... 17:45 Calinou GNOME 2 is 17:45 realtinymonster john_minetest: lol 17:45 Calinou lol, I kill guy in Enemy Territory 17:45 realtinymonster KDE must be 1897 :P 17:45 Calinou he kills me 1 minute later, walks on me, switches to pistol and finishes me 17:46 LemonLake lol owned 17:47 LemonLake OMFG 17:47 realtinymonster haha 17:48 LemonLake finally 17:48 LemonLake KDE does look better than gnome 3.0 17:48 realtinymonster KDE today looks pretty kewl 17:49 LemonLake It looks a lot like aero 17:49 realtinymonster LemonLake: I believe thats the point... 17:49 realtinymonster +! 17:49 realtinymonster +1 17:50 Calinou KDE has Twilight Sparkle 17:50 * Calinou runs 17:50 nman3600 hi 17:50 nman3600 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9334 17:50 Calinou hi nman3600 17:50 realtinymonster who here lives in the netherlands? 17:50 nman3600 1.0 of my mod is now released! 17:50 LemonLake New version nman3600? 17:50 LemonLake oh neat 17:50 * john_minetest gallops away 17:50 LemonLake I hope you didn't remove my carpet for loop. 17:50 * realtinymonster slaps Calinou in the back of the head with a frying pan 17:50 * Krock slaps nman3600: I don't have AD block on IRC 17:50 PenguinDad I have only seen Rainbow Dash for KDE 17:50 nman3600 LemonLake nope 17:50 * PenguinDad gallops away 17:51 nman3600 Krock none of us do 17:51 nman3600 i think 17:51 LemonLake Ad block on IRC? 17:51 nman3600 idk 17:51 LemonLake I think he was making a joke? 17:51 LemonLake Or * PenguinDad is like 'fuck this shit' 17:52 LemonLake nman3600; are the item frames part of your mod? 17:52 PenguinDad LemonLake: which shit? 17:52 LemonLake All of the shit 17:52 nman3600 LemonLake no it's a mod 17:52 LemonLake I'm aware. 17:52 LemonLake Just checking. 17:54 realtinymonster LemonLake: lol 17:54 LemonLake ^^ 17:54 LemonLake what the flying fuck 17:54 realtinymonster lol 17:55 * LemonLake slaps |whiskers76| so hard that plane 17:55 realtinymonster hmh 17:55 * sfan5 meows at |whiskers76| 17:55 |whiskers76| sorry 17:55 realtinymonster Khahahhahahahahahahaha 17:55 |whiskers76| trying to keep idiots from being imposters 17:56 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((((((((((((((((((-< 17:56 LemonLake o.o? 17:56 |whiskers76| *cough* nyuszika7h *cough* 17:56 * sfan5 noms it 17:56 * realtinymonster meows at C418's cat 17:56 nyuszika7h not now 17:56 Calinou C418's encoded cat 17:56 LemonLake What encoding? 17:56 realtinymonster lol 17:56 nyuszika7h whiskers75: you do realize you can just tell freenode staff if it gets bad enough that whoever the imposter is really doesn't want to stop 17:56 nyuszika7h they don't like imposter nicks anyway 17:56 whiskers75 he's in here? 17:57 LemonLake Or just register your nickname with nickserv 17:57 LemonLake ? 17:57 whiskers75 LemonLake: ಠ_ಠ17:57 Calinou nyuszika7h, suddenly, Chiyo 17:57 nman3600 ó.ó 17:57 whiskers75 that's so stupid, I can't even reply. 17:57 realtinymonster lol 17:57 LemonLake I am stupid, thanks. 17:57 LemonLake Brain damage is fun! 17:57 whiskers75 It is registered ಠ_ಠ17:57 LemonLake Aiight. 17:57 whiskers75 I'm just grouping all the clone nicks 17:57 nyuszika7h whiskers75: have fun 17:57 realtinymonster suddenly, LDF 9001 17:57 nyuszika7h the limit is 20 17:57 LemonLake ohh I see., 17:57 nyuszika7h that's a waste of space 17:58 whiskers75 [nyuszika7h intensifies] 17:58 nyuszika7h you can always tell freenode staff if whoever does it *really* doesn't want to stop. not that you should instantly tell them if I ever change my nick to something resembling yours, of course, because we're friends, right? 17:58 whiskers75 "friends" 17:58 realtinymonster hehe 17:58 LemonLake deep 17:58 Krock nman3600, changelog missing 17:58 realtinymonster de_eb 17:58 LemonLake plot twist: you two are more than friends 17:58 whiskers75 I'd call you somewhere in the middle with sfan5 and octocodercat (a psycho codercat who's nice sometimes) 17:59 Krock (@ newestpost) 17:59 nman3600 Krock i'll add that 17:59 whiskers75 s/with/between/ 17:59 Krock nman3600, servercrash btw 17:59 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5 17:59 LemonLake Changelog is unnecessary if there's git, right? 17:59 nman3600 i was just thinking that i'm missing something 17:59 nman3600 yeah i noticed Krock i crashed 17:59 Calinou LemonLake, it makes it less necessary, but it's still good to have one 17:59 * sfan5 meows at Krock 17:59 Calinou for any significant project 18:00 Calinou (may be unneeded for just a Minetest mod or game) 18:00 * Krock meows at sfan5 18:00 LemonLake Actually, yeah yeah. 18:00 * sfan5 purrs at Krock 18:00 LemonLake That reminds me, I should probably tell Florian to changelog breadhunter... 18:00 * Krock acts like a mirror. 18:00 * Krock purrs at sfan5 18:00 Calinou I read “* Krock acts like a minor.” 18:00 Calinou LemonLake, breadhunder? Florian? 18:00 Calinou hunter* 18:01 LemonLake Sorry, that was directed mainly at nman 18:01 Krock Calinou, much best english? 18:01 LemonLake Florian is me mate, Bread Hunter is a game we're developing in C++ 18:01 LemonLake He's the lead developer. I do more code, artwork, concepts and music. 18:01 Calinou mhm 18:01 Calinou you also made MLP game as far as I remember :D 18:01 LemonLake And nman is my reminder board. 18:01 nman3600 Krock added changelog spoiler 18:01 LemonLake Fall of Equestria? 18:02 Krock nman3600, ok. 18:02 LemonLake Dude, that's one FINE memory you have! 18:02 realtinymonster hehe 18:02 LemonLake I should speak to Lleeron if he wants to reboot that. 18:02 nman3600 wait how does Calinout know that 18:02 nman3600 Calinou* 18:02 LemonLake No idea. Probably a friend of Lleeron. 18:02 nman3600 mayve 18:03 Calinou Dude, that's one FINE memory you have! 18:03 nman3600 ugh my "P" key on my keyboard got stuck again :( 18:03 Calinou GitHub does it for me 18:03 LemonLake That was on Github? 18:03 Calinou yep 18:03 LemonLake Oh, that's a REALLY old version 18:03 LemonLake Back when I didn't actually know how to code properly 18:03 LemonLake Oh my god that code is shit as fuck 18:03 Calinou I laughed at “unsupported OS” code 18:03 LemonLake Ew ew ew 18:03 LemonLake Don't look at it 18:04 LemonLake Don't look at it! 18:04 LemonLake THIS MUST BE REMOVED 18:04 realtinymonster lol 18:04 Calinou https://github.com/DrawingDrewfly/mlpgame 18:04 realtinymonster i shal fork! 18:04 Calinou consider putting a license up 18:04 LemonLake Don't do that, realtinymonster 18:04 LemonLake I would I could login to my git. 18:04 kaeza what you do in the internet, stays in the internet 18:04 LemonLake I hate java now, dw. 18:04 Calinou Java is fine mostly, but I have slight aversion to it, due to the fact the Windows installer recommends adware 18:04 kaeza Java <3 18:05 realtinymonster hhmm 18:05 Krock C# <3 18:05 realtinymonster noooooooooooooooooooooo 18:05 kaeza lol C# 18:05 realtinymonster it got delete! 18:05 Calinou also lol “Mane.java” 18:05 LemonLake Yeah lol 18:05 LemonLake Calinou, refresh on that repo please 18:06 Calinou yeah, it got removed 18:06 Calinou it was banished to the moon 18:06 * kaeza slaps Krock with Python 18:06 * Calinou gallops away 18:06 LemonLake >:) 18:06 * Krock slaps kaeza with batch 18:06 LemonLake That was the final backup of the game's files. 18:06 LemonLake Mauhahaha 18:06 * kaeza slaps Krock with brainfuck 18:06 Krock AAGH 18:07 kaeza :D 18:07 Calinou LemonLake, you don't have any cloned version? 18:07 * kaeza wins 18:07 Krock revived 18:07 LemonLake I think I have three backups on external hard drives, actually 18:07 Calinou wine kaeza.exe 18:07 LemonLake And no, my hard drive has been wiped entirely four times since the last commit to that project 18:09 kaeza Calinou, I prefer beer 18:09 * kaeza gallops away 18:09 LemonLake dat comeback 18:09 LemonLake brb gonna see niece 18:19 LemonLake Yo 18:31 realtinymonster lol 18:31 realtinymonster i be back 18:34 realtinymonster wine kaeza.exe Calinou, I prefer beer 18:35 realtinymonster hehe 18:51 realtinymonster Piggybear87: more computer problems? 18:51 Piggybear87 Huh? 18:53 realtinymonster the last time your were here you were complaining about a pentium or smth 18:54 LemonLake Doesn't mean it'll be the same this time 18:54 realtinymonster true 18:55 LemonLake Suddenly I feel extremely nauseous 18:56 Piggybear87 No, I auto connect to #minetest, #minetest-dev and #mosstest 18:56 realtinymonster Suddenly, Pineapples 18:56 realtinymonster ah ok 18:56 LemonLake Ditto 18:58 Piggybear87 Also, according to sfan5, my graphics card is too slow for minetest. I get black sky and no inventory textures. 18:58 realtinymonster ah 18:58 LemonLake What's your Open GL version? 18:58 Piggybear87 Yup. 18:58 LemonLake It should say in the Minetest titlebar? 18:58 Piggybear87 1.3 18:58 realtinymonster did you try rendering in DX8 or 9? 18:58 LemonLake There's your issue. 18:58 realtinymonster LemonLake: not really 18:58 LemonLake Most OpenGL block-based games at LEAST require 1.4 18:58 realtinymonster I run minetest on 1.3 just fine 18:59 realtinymonster *used to 18:59 LemonLake Really? o.o 18:59 Piggybear87 DX8/9 is Windows. 18:59 realtinymonster ah 18:59 realtinymonster software render? 18:59 LemonLake eww 18:59 realtinymonster it sucks, but it works 19:00 realtinymonster it makes water real pretty :P 19:03 LemonLake Whenever I use ipairs, nothing is ever iterated 19:03 jin_xi read pil 19:03 LemonLake pil? 19:04 jin_xi http://www.lua.org/pil/ 19:04 LemonLake I have already. 19:04 jin_xi looks like it 19:04 LemonLake Don't you think I would've tried? 19:04 jin_xi only use ipairs for arrays 19:04 LemonLake Order is extremely important here. 19:05 jin_xi maybe try using a reverse table 19:05 LemonLake a wut 19:05 LemonLake Whatever, maybe the error isn't order 19:05 LemonLake Maybe it's something else 19:07 jin_xi http://www.lua.org/pil/4.3.5.html 19:07 LemonLake Don't you think I would've read that? 19:07 LemonLake Oh, I see. 19:07 LemonLake Oh. 19:08 LemonLake Whatever, maybe the error isn't order 19:08 LemonLake Maybe it's something else 19:09 Piggybear87 Gonna try mo other vid card. back in a bit. 19:12 nman3600 woah all of a sudden my sproxel just went laggy as hell 19:12 LemonLake why are you using sproxel 19:12 nman3600 i'm just messing around with it 19:16 realtinymonster so! what are your findings? 19:17 realtinymonster Piggybear87: 19:17 Piggybear87 No-go. Machine wouldn't turn on. It must be bad. 19:17 sfan5 Piggybear87: I say could be too slow 19:17 * sfan5 gives kaeza a beer 19:18 Piggybear87 sfan5, I know. It is, I think. Maybe it's my low ram also... 19:19 * nman3600 strokes sfan5 19:19 LemonLake http://pastebin.com/m3mrxGQr 19:19 LemonLake My intention here is for the current element to be removed, and all the other to move upwards. 19:19 realtinymonster Piggybear87: does it have a built-in gfx card? 19:19 Piggybear87 Yes, a really old one. 19:19 LemonLake Instead, the first time they move DOWN a bit, then they just get removed and are no longer moved up 19:19 LemonLake moved up > > moved* 19:19 * sfan5 meows at nman3600 19:20 realtinymonster Piggybear87: have you tried it? 19:20 realtinymonster its worth a shot 19:21 Piggybear87 Wait, An actual card? No. Integrated, yes. 19:21 realtinymonster yeah 19:21 realtinymonster I know 19:21 realtinymonster tried it? 19:21 Piggybear87 That's what I'm using now. The integrated one. 19:21 realtinymonster hmm 19:21 realtinymonster odd 19:22 Piggybear87 intel corporation 82865g integrated graphics controller 19:22 realtinymonster sfan5: I want a bear too! 19:23 * Piggybear87 needs coffee and will return in < 5 minutes. 19:25 jin_xi LemonLake: why are not using v in the loop (apart from dumping it)? 19:26 * Piggybear87 is back. COFFEE!!!! 19:26 LemonLake Because I'm stupid, why? 19:26 Piggybear87 Anyone know how to see when someone was last seen? 19:27 Vazon mhmm i beilive thats a mod 19:27 PenguinDad !seen somename 19:27 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen somename around. 19:27 Vazon or are you talking about on htere? 19:27 PenguinDad ^ Piggybear87 19:27 Piggybear87 !seen us'0gb 19:27 MinetestBot Piggybear87: Sorry, I haven't seen us'0gb around. 19:27 jin_xi moar likely its me being stupid... but it looks strange to me 19:27 Piggybear87 Hmm... 19:28 Piggybear87 !seen Us'0gb 19:28 MinetestBot Piggybear87: Sorry, I haven't seen us'0gb around. 19:28 Piggybear87 !seen us'0Gb 19:28 MinetestBot Piggybear87: Sorry, I haven't seen us'0gb around. 19:29 realtinymonster !seen us`0gb 19:29 MinetestBot realtinymonster: us`0gb was last seen at 2014-05-22 23:32:37 UTC on #minetest 19:29 Piggybear87 Defuq? 19:29 Piggybear87 Whu did it do it for you and not me? 19:29 nman3600 i think it's !up Us'0gb is what you're looking for 19:29 realtinymonster no 19:29 Piggybear87 No, I'm looking for him, not his server. 19:29 nman3600 ok 19:29 realtinymonster because ' and ` are differnt thngs 19:30 nman3600 !seen 0gb 19:30 MinetestBot nman3600: Sorry, I haven't seen 0gb around. 19:30 PenguinDad !down 0gb.us 19:30 Piggybear87 Ah, I see now. They look the same on my screen. 19:30 realtinymonster lol 19:30 nman3600 is it possible to have 2 drawtypes in one node? 19:31 PenguinDad nman3600: not at the moment 19:31 LemonLake We had an excellent discussion about this yesterday. 19:31 Piggybear87 Not that I'm aware of. 19:31 LemonLake It would require extra param types. 19:31 nman3600 :( i wanted to do that 19:31 LemonLake Don't bother trying. 19:31 nman3600 k 19:31 LemonLake It's entirely impossible. 19:33 Piggybear87 !up 0gb.us 19:33 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 seems to be down 19:38 LemonLake Can nobody else help? 19:39 realtinymonster no! 19:39 realtinymonster well maybe.. 19:39 realtinymonster whats going on? 19:39 Piggybear87 sfan5, Is there a way to see what version of opengl I have/can support? 19:39 realtinymonster run minetest 19:39 realtinymonster :P 19:40 Piggybear87 Yup. 1.3... oh well. 19:40 Piggybear87 What about a way to tell how high I can support? 19:41 realtinymonster that should be ther highest 19:41 realtinymonster it depends entirely on the gfx card 19:41 realtinymonster if thats the highest it can go, then thats that 19:42 realtinymonster to get higher oGL, get a new gfx card 19:42 Ner0 Quick question 19:42 Ner0 How do I run the phenny bot on my irc 19:42 realtinymonster wrong chan 19:42 realtinymonster :P 19:42 Ner0 I'm using the one sfan5 has on google 19:42 Ner0 *github 19:42 LemonLake no bots in this channel 19:42 realtinymonster google lol 19:42 Ner0 Yes MinetestBot is the bot 19:43 realtinymonster Ner0, you need python 19:43 Ner0 realtinymonster 19:43 Ner0 ,okay 19:43 Ner0 Download python? 19:43 realtinymonster yus 19:43 LemonLake why do you need it ner0? 19:43 Ner0 and then run it? 19:43 realtinymonster yes 19:43 Ner0 what file do i run? 19:43 Ner0 startup.py? 19:43 Ner0 or server.py? 19:43 LemonLake ner0, why do you need it? 19:43 realtinymonster the file called phenny i think 19:44 Ner0 Theres no file called phenny 19:44 nman3600 i was about to ask a really stupid question but i remembered the answer 19:44 realtinymonster did you download pheny? 19:44 Ner0 the only p is ping.py 19:44 realtinymonster you need phenny too 19:44 rubenwardy bye all 19:44 LemonLake Ner0, can you answer me? 19:44 Ner0 Phenny is a script xD 19:45 realtinymonster ok then 19:46 nman3600 you should be happy i saved you all from facepalming 19:47 Krock singlenode mapgen lies. 19:47 Krock there are 2 nodes 19:47 LemonLake which are? 19:47 Krock ignore, air 19:47 LemonLake actualy 19:47 LemonLake singlenode as in one node that's actually solid 19:48 realtinymonster *has 19:48 realtinymonster that would be ignore 19:48 Krock papyrus is a node, too. 19:48 CraigyDavi singlenode generates nyancats 19:48 Krock it's not solid 19:48 realtinymonster oh 19:48 realtinymonster lol 19:48 nman3600 Door mat!: http://imgur.com/t6FHCDv 19:48 Piggybear87 Great, now Minetest won't event connet to a serer... 19:49 LemonLake nman, how about you make it fill half of the floor? 19:49 nman3600 whatya mean? 19:49 nman3600 it's covers up a whole node 19:49 LemonLake more doormat shaped 19:50 nman3600 how do i make it more than a nodebox big 19:50 LemonLake what 19:50 nman3600 i want it wider than a node 19:54 LemonLake oh 19:54 LemonLake here is where my minetest chan went 19:55 reactor How come so many players now, and barely one-two people a day in April? 19:55 realtinymonster because summer :P 19:55 reactor What happened? Cracked Minecraft broke again? 19:55 reactor Ah. 19:56 reactor Well I don't see how summer is "freer" than terms. Because projects and such. 19:57 sfan5 Piggybear87: glxinfo 19:57 Piggybear87 Huh? 19:58 Piggybear87 Oh. Ok. Lol. 19:59 Piggybear87 It says I have 1.4 20:00 Piggybear87 Anywho. I gotta got to the store. Back in a while. 20:10 realtinymonster hi 20:11 realtinymonster https://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minetest , https://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minecraft 20:13 Enke Looks neat! I'd contribute, but I'm horrible at texturing... :-( 20:13 realtinymonster meh,its all good 20:14 Enke quite suitable for work? 20:16 webdesigner97 Hello :) 20:16 realtinymonster hi 20:16 realtinymonster https://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minetest , https://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minecraft 20:16 CraigyDavi hello webdesigner97 20:17 webdesigner97 lol, what did I find here? Bluetooth? :D https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f5b791929e035d78af3aff502ca119eac745e91e 20:18 VanessaE hi 20:18 nman3600 hi CraigyDavi and VanessaE 20:19 CraigyDavi Hello nman3600 20:19 nman3600 have you checked out 1.0 of my multitest mod? 20:19 nman3600 oh and CraigyDavi did you want credits for the handle grip texture? 20:19 CraigyDavi Nah 20:19 nman3600 ok 20:19 webdesigner97 hello VanessaE :) 20:20 VanessaE hey hey 20:20 Enke VanessaE: Is Inchranet down for you? 20:20 realtinymonster VanessaE: did you see gitpack? 20:21 Enke realtinymonster: I forked gitpack, just to see if I could do anything with it. I may start work on a few textures. 20:21 realtinymonster cool 20:21 realtinymonster minetest on mc? 20:21 realtinymonster *or 20:21 Enke minetest 20:22 realtinymonster cool 20:23 CraigyDavi Enke: Inchranet is up for me. Try a different server 20:23 Enke Hmm. Horus is down, anyway. 20:23 Enke I'll try Ra 20:28 VanessaE Enke: inchra is working fine for me; horus might be down, dunno - use isis :) 20:28 VanessaE realtinymonster: not familiar with that 20:28 Enke CraigyDavi: I'm also getting a connection failure for ra.inchra.net as well. 20:28 Enke I'll try isis 20:28 realtinymonster https://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minetest , https://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minecraft 20:28 realtinymonster ^ VanessaE 20:29 CraigyDavi Using port 6667, Enke? 20:29 Enke Yep. 20:29 VanessaE inchra might require ssl/sasl 20:29 VanessaE I don't remember 20:29 Enke It worked fine earlier today, and I haven't changed any settings. 20:29 VanessaE port 6697 20:30 CraigyDavi Hmm I'm using isis. Try that one. 20:32 webdesigner97 Do you know this feeling when your Todo list for your mod is empty but you still think you cannot release it? 20:32 Enke 6697, huh? 20:33 Enke Okay, I'm gonna attempt to connect with isis on port 6697, with no SSL. If that doesn't work, I'll turn on SSL for isis. 20:34 VanessaE webdesigner97: yep, I know that feeling, it's like "surely I missed something" :) 20:34 webdesigner97 yes :) 20:34 VanessaE Enke: 6697 + ssl 20:34 webdesigner97 exactly :D 20:34 Enke Okay. 20:34 webdesigner97 What currently blocks me from the next release is https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1338 20:35 realtinymonster minetest has too many issues 20:35 realtinymonster :P 20:35 webdesigner97 hello cheapie :) 20:35 webdesigner97 haha :D Maybe yes 20:35 cheapie Does anybody know what's wrong with InchraNet? All of the MT servers are connected, but DNS lookups for it are failing from here. 20:35 realtinymonster haha 20:36 realtinymonster Enke is having the same problem 20:36 nman3600 ShadowNinja do you want credits for helping me with some code on my mod? 20:36 cheapie I tried isis, horus, anubis, and ra, as well as not specifying any. It won't work. 20:36 Enke cheapie: I'm currently trying isis.inchra.net, port 6697, with SSL. 20:36 reactor Okay this is strange. Compiled MT with FreeType and Gettext, still can't set language! 20:36 reactor It just ignores my config setting! 20:37 LemonLake Fixed it. 20:37 LemonLake Hi nman3600 20:37 * cheapie pokes ShadowNinja 20:37 nman3600 Hi LemonLake 20:37 LimePool :P 20:37 Enke is there a command to force a connection attempt? 20:37 LemonLake Damn you RTM :P 20:37 cheapie Enke: dig is coming up with nothing. 20:37 VanessaE LimePool: what kind of issues? 20:38 Enke Hmmm. 20:38 LimePool well, webdesigner97 quoted the 133X issue 20:38 LimePool :P 20:38 LimePool alot 20:38 * cheapie finds a workaround 20:38 webdesigner97 LimePool: What did I quote? :D 20:38 cheapie Point your IRC clients at digitalaudioconcepts.com - that goes straight to isis. 20:39 LimePool https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1338 20:39 LimePool haha 20:39 LimePool why? 20:39 webdesigner97 Why why? It's a problem :D 20:39 Enke cheapie: what port? 20:39 cheapie Enke: Whatever IRC port you normally use. 20:40 Enke Hang on. 20:40 cheapie Enke: One of the InchraNet servers lives on that box. 20:40 Enke Bingo! 20:41 Enke Thanks cheapie! 20:42 nman3600 LemonLake, CraigyDavi I've gave you both Credit's in my mod for textures and LemonLake a bit of coding okay? 20:42 kcin darm 20:42 Enke ...And I went through all that crap just to find that ShadowServer wasn't up and Microchip wasn't on! Why do I even bother? 20:42 kcin nman3600: how is Multitest? 20:42 CraigyDavi Thats fine nman3600 20:43 nman3600 kcin fine i just updated it adding carpets and lamps and some other things i think 20:43 LemonLake Chill 20:43 kcin cool 20:43 cheapie Enke: Microchip's on a 1-2 week vacation. He didn't say why. 20:43 llihC har har 20:43 nman3600 CraigyDavi that's good 20:43 Enke Huh. Irony alert. 20:44 LemonLake What do you mean 'didn't say why'? 20:44 LemonLake If you're on vacation, you're on vacation. Simple as. 20:44 llihC lol 20:45 LemonLake Okay, ^^? 20:45 LemonLake What the actual fuck is up with those name changes 20:45 webdesigner97 gtg, see you :) 20:45 LeeeeeeemonLake :P 20:45 LemonLake Fuck off 20:45 LeeeeeeemonLake ok 20:46 nman3600 lol 20:46 enman3600 :P 20:46 nman3600 FUCK OF 20:46 nman3600 f 20:46 LemonLake Language, Niall. 20:46 nman3600 LOL 20:46 LemonLake :P 20:46 realtinymonster lol 20:47 Enke realtinymonster: 2 things: #1: would you find it odd if the bubbles had some rainbow in them, like solution bubbles? #2: Do you want hearts to be hearts, or something else? 20:47 nman3600 so in v.2.0 of multitest so far i've made door mat and that's it lol 20:47 LemonLake Want an idea, Niall? 20:47 nman3600 yes pls 20:47 LemonLake Add a block that iterates through all surrounding blocks of its type and turns them into a random block over a certain period of time. 20:48 nman3600 like that one minecraft mod? 20:48 LemonLake Of course not. 20:48 nman3600 i might make that a seperat mod 20:48 realtinymonster Hearts should be like olive green rounded sqares, i'm fine with rainbow bubbles 20:48 LemonLake I was joking. 20:48 LemonLake You don't even know what iterate means. 20:48 nman3600 no i don't 20:48 LemonLake I do. 20:48 LemonLake Ha ha. 20:48 realtinymonster I do too, haha 20:48 nman3600 still gotta make the craft recipe for mat 20:48 nman3600 lo 20:48 LemonLake http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+iterate 20:49 Enke realtinymonster: Okay. olive-green rounded squares it is.... 20:49 nman3600 so basically repeat 20:49 LemonLake it·er·ate 20:49 LemonLake ˈitəˌrāt/Submit 20:49 LemonLake verb 20:49 LemonLake verb: iterate; 3rd person present: iterates; past tense: iterated; past participle: iterated; gerund or present participle: iterating 20:49 LemonLake 1. 20:49 lmgtfydotcom harhar 20:49 LemonLake Thanks xchat rofl 20:49 nman3600 lol 20:50 lmgtfydotcom haha! 20:50 nman3600 genius name 20:50 lmgtfydotcom thanks 20:50 nman3600 i love that website 20:50 nman3600 dot should be like this (dot) 20:50 harpnedottk sure 20:51 realtinymonster lol 20:51 realtinymonster ctrl + z 20:52 LemonLake nman3600, will you still be on at 11? 20:52 nman3600 LemonLake maybe 20:52 Enke realtinymonster: vertical or horizontal olive-green rounded rectangles? 20:52 realtinymonster sqares :P 20:53 realtinymonster #gitpack 20:53 Enke Oops. I'm not on top of my game today. 20:53 Enke Of course, I've never been on top of my game ever. 20:53 nman3600 how do u change name? 20:53 LemonLake WIth /nick 20:53 Enke nman3600: /nick 20:53 nman3600 k thanks 20:54 multitest heyo 20:54 realtinymonster hi 20:54 {0063namn} ehehe 20:54 multitest lol 20:54 {0063namn} ton lol 20:55 retsnomynitlaer hi {0063namn} 20:55 nman3600 Ha 20:55 nman3600 STOLE YOUR NICK 20:55 retsnomynitlaer :( 20:56 OrangeLake HA 20:56 LemonLake You can't take my nick anyway 20:56 LemonLake It's nickserv'd 20:57 LakeLemon lol 21:01 nman3600 AHH IT DOESN'T WORK :( 21:01 LemonLake what doesn't 21:01 nman3600 the inventory image for this node isn't working 21:02 nman3600 cm'ere if you need to LemonLake 21:02 Enke {0063namn}: I got the heart and the bubble textured. I'm gonna take 'em for a spin. I'll get back to you with how I think they look. 21:02 LemonLake I'm fine thanks 21:02 LemonLake Working with sapier on this 21:03 {0063namn} Hungarian! 21:03 {0063namn} Enke: sounds good 21:03 reactor So, no idea? 21:03 nman3600 31 nodes in my mod :) 21:04 reactor Compiled with FreeType and Gettext, picked own fonts, set LANG properly -- still no Russian. 21:04 realtinymonster over 450 lines of code to do one thing in my code, nman3600 :P 21:04 realtinymonster well, not mine 21:04 nman3600 lol 21:04 realtinymonster WindHero's 21:04 realtinymonster it builds a space module at spawn 21:04 nman3600 inventory_image = {"multitest_door_mat.png"}, this is correct right? 21:04 LemonLake I probably have at least three thousand lines of code in this entire project 21:05 LemonLake Looks fine to me nman3600 21:05 nman3600 it doesn't work ingame 21:05 Enke The bubbles look like bubbles, the hearts, not so much... 21:05 Enke They are flat olive squares (with rounded edges) 21:05 realtinymonster meh, thats the point! 21:06 realtinymonster its funnylooking 21:06 Enke I'm still gonna touch 'em up a bit. 21:06 realtinymonster ok 21:06 realtinymonster sounds good 21:06 VanessaE nman3600: for inventory images, no {braces} 21:06 Enke BTW, dirt and grass textures are amazing! 21:06 VanessaE inventory_image = "multitest_door_mat.png", 21:07 nman3600 ohk thanks! 21:07 realtinymonster Enke: credit goes to Amaz for those :D 21:07 VanessaE (same for the wield image) 21:07 realtinymonster Enke: #gitpack 21:08 Enke Don't have Twitter. 21:08 realtinymonster lol 21:08 realtinymonster join the channel 21:08 realtinymonster its a channel 21:08 Enke Oh, oops. 21:08 realtinymonster :P 21:08 khonkhortisan VanessaE, I forgot I made that issue 21:09 VanessaE khonkhortisan: heh, a bit late in responding :) 21:09 khonkhortisan Yeah, I was away 21:09 VanessaE s'ok 21:11 nman3600 Yeah VannesaE i noticed i needed to add a wield image on a few of them thanks! 21:12 VanessaE nman3600: most of the time you shouldn't need to add an inventory image or wield image 21:12 VanessaE try to let the engine generate one for you from the rendered node 21:12 nman3600 k 21:13 nman3600 i find it annoying that every single bit of punctuation means it all to coding D: 21:14 VanessaE most languages are like that 21:14 VanessaE except maybe LOLCODE :) 21:14 VanessaE (and that's hardly a legit language) 21:15 nman3600 lol 21:15 VanessaE worse is brainfuck, where it's *all nothing but punctuation* :) 21:15 realtinymonster lol lololol lolololollo lololol lolol 21:15 VanessaE realtinymonster: no, think "lolcats" style grammar with BASIC-like syntax 21:15 nman3600 omg remind me never to start doing that 21:16 realtinymonster ah 21:16 realtinymonster "can I haz stack1", etc.? 21:16 VanessaE yes, similar 21:16 realtinymonster lol 21:16 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE 21:17 * realtinymonster squeaks 21:17 realtinymonster *rawrs! 21:17 realtinymonster :P 21:17 realtinymonster Non HTTPS! 21:18 VanessaE not everyone is paranoid enough to need https for everything 21:18 VanessaE :P 21:18 reactor If you can use https, you should use it. 21:19 VanessaE why? 21:20 realtinymonster lol 21:21 VanessaE by virtue of me posting the link here, the NSA already knows what's on that page 21:21 VanessaE https would gain nothing here 21:21 VanessaE it's wikipedia. 21:21 VanessaE (let's assume for the moment that they're recording this conversation in some massive database) 21:22 nman3600 then they're stalkers and pervets 21:22 VanessaE their computer sees that link and follows it just as you would, just as I did when I searched for it. 21:22 nman3600 *perverts 21:22 VanessaE they get the same content you and I got. 21:22 realtinymonster nman3600: Yep, the US government is... 21:22 VanessaE https would gain you and I exactly zip. 21:23 VanessaE now on the other hand if I'm going to some private site that I don't tell anyone about at the time I visit, https makes perfect sense. 21:23 nman3600 oh wait so the us government can see UK things then 21:23 VanessaE nman3600: if it goes across a forum that's visible to the US in a general fashion, sure 21:24 realtinymonster dingbat 21:24 nman3600 ok VannesaE good... 21:24 VanessaE if a random American like me could search for it, the US government can as well, and record it. 21:24 realtinymonster yes 21:24 nman3600 i'm not american so i can do the same kinda with the UK government seeing it aswell D: 21:24 realtinymonster I like the NSA, yet at the same time, I want to bash their brains out for spying on us 21:25 nman3600 lol i agree 21:25 VanessaE (whether they actually DO record/make copies of it is a matter for the conspiracy theorists, but it is a known, documented fact that they do for some websites as well as all international phone calls to some countries) 21:25 nman3600 node ideas for my mod? join #multitest 21:26 VanessaE not presently. 21:32 Exio4 ;buf 120 21:32 Exio4 ff 21:38 ShadowNinja cheapie: Um, use digitalaudioconcepts.com. 21:38 cheapie ShadowNinja: That's what I did. 21:38 cheapie That worked. 21:39 cheapie Any idea when inchra.net will be fixed, though? 21:48 Jordach FU skyrim 21:48 Jordach thanks for changing my keyboard prefs to US and not UK 22:07 ShadowNinja cheapie: Should be back within a day or two, I have to wait for someone else to come online though. 22:07 cheapie OK. 22:12 markveidemanis !up 192.227.253.67 22:12 markveidemanis !up 192.227.253.67 30010 22:12 markveidemanis ~up 192.227.253.67 30010 22:12 ShadowBot markveidemanis: 192.227.253.67 port 30010 is up (331ms) 22:13 * markveidemanis finally has a server 22:22 * Jordach dislikes windows' inability to find a string in a filename 22:23 LemonLake ^^^^^^^^^66 22:23 Jordach seriously, if its like foobarfoo and you want bar, you wont get foobarfoo 22:23 Jordach in said results 22:23 LemonLake yep 22:23 LemonLake it looks for exact name matches but it mostly looks in the file meta or contents 22:24 Jordach Agent Ramsack is actually quite good at finding shit 22:24 realtinymonster Jordach: how's BFD? 22:24 Jordach realtinymonster, ignoring it until i finish my exams 22:24 realtinymonster ah, end of year stuff? 22:26 realtinymonster "A computer scientist is someone who fixes things that aren't broken" so true 22:31 Jordach munchies: solved 23:41 hunterx689 hi 23:41 LemonLake Hey! 23:41 hunterx689 VannesaE i need your help 23:42 hunterx689 something is happening ic ant connect to horus.inchra or isis,ra or anubis 23:42 hunterx689 i cant* 23:42 LemonLake It's previously been reported today 23:42 VanessaE hunterx689: the domain is down. 23:43 VanessaE use digitalaudioconcepts.com port 6697 with SSL 23:43 VanessaE (or 6667 without SSL might work too, idk) 23:43 VanessaE that'll route you to isis, which is the same IP 23:43 hunterx689 ok 23:44 Jordach i call bullshit 23:44 Jordach resolving fine for me 23:44 VanessaE but the domain is managed separately; "inchra" depends on a different server that someone else runs, that I guess is down right now? 23:44 kaeza ^ 23:44 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/102152/ 23:44 kaeza -"I call bullshit" 23:44 LemonLake brb 23:45 Jordach entire server messages log 23:45 charlie what the mese vanessa 23:45 VanessaE Jordach: it's probably cached near you 23:45 Jordach <3 Quassel :P 23:45 VanessaE remember DNS does cache rather persistently. 23:45 hunterx689 you say that inchra is down now? 23:45 hunterx689 ._. 23:45 kaeza PS: dat MOTD 23:46 Jordach vanessa is referring to the external adress 23:46 VanessaE hunterx689: just the domain is I think, but the network is up. 23:46 Jordach eg, isis.inchra.net 23:46 LemonLake I just realised 23:46 LemonLake I've never played minetest... 23:46 Jordach n00b 23:46 Jordach N00B 23:46 VanessaE hunterx689: point your IRC client to digitalaudioconcepts.com or 192.99.11.10 23:46 Jordach 04,01NOOB! 23:46 LemonLake I think I played it once with my brother but only a little bit 23:46 LemonLake And it was for testing my mod 23:47 LemonLake Minetest for me is less of a game but more of a place to experiment 23:47 LemonLake A coding sandbox if you will 23:47 * kaeza doesn't play MT too much anymore... too many items in TODO.txt 23:47 LemonLake Might start helping out with some myself 23:47 VanessaE hunterx689: in other words, the phone book is misplaced, but if you remember the phone numbers you want to call, those still work. 23:47 LemonLake ^ 23:48 LemonLake That's actually a pretty neat way of explaining domain names in a nutshell 23:48 hunterx689 NOOB! 23:48 hunterx689 XD 23:48 LemonLake stfu okay? xD 23:49 hunterx689 yep... 23:49 hunterx689 but my head not XD 23:49 VanessaE LemonLake: most common way I've heard to describe DNS 23:51 VanessaE You have a central building (DNS root server) that distributes phone books (DNS records) to various offices in your town (your local DNS servers). You have call or visit your local office to use their book (make a DNS query) and write down the number you need, or you bring a book home with you (run your own DNS caching server) and look the records up yourself, then make your phone calls as needed (contact the IP addresses and send/receive 23:51 VanessaE the data you wanted). 23:52 VanessaE have to call* 23:52 LemonLake Fair enough. 23:52 LemonLake Jordach, hunterx689, here's why I've never played minetest: http://i.imgur.com/tPrmhSU.png 23:53 LemonLake Nman showed me this game, and I was dead bored and looking for something to work on so I looked at the Intro page, thought the modding API was practically minimal (just nodes and craftitems) but I looked a bit deeper and found that it's actually an entire legit API 23:53 LemonLake So I was like 'hell yeah, I'll just do stuff on here' 23:54 VanessaE heh 23:54 LemonLake I don't PLAY games much anymore 23:54 LemonLake If I do it'd be something that I actually wanted to, most of it is steam games 23:55 LemonLake And I'd play games that gave me nostalgia anyday (Pretty much any game on an old console, Portal 2, Quake, Doom, etc) 23:55 LemonLake Just never get round to doing so 23:55 VanessaE play the mt_nostalgia game then ;) 23:55 LemonLake If I've never really played it before, I wouldn't feel nostalgic 23:56 VanessaE true :) 23:56 LemonLake I'd just think "Oh. This is old. Okay" 23:56 LemonLake I replayed Portal the other day, got the Transmission Recieved achievement. 23:56 LemonLake I'm probably gonna do another rerun tonight, get Camera Shy 23:57 LemonLake Actually, fuck it I'll do that!