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00:07 WindHero well, I ran into another interesting problem
00:08 WindHero minetest.setting_get_pos("config_pos") lets you retrieve a position
00:08 WindHero but minetest.setting_set won't let you set a pos
00:08 WindHero and there is no setting_set_pos()
00:19 WindHero ...does Minetest even use static_spawnpoint?
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00:23 ShadowNinja WindHero: Yes it does.  See builtin/game/static_spawn.lua
00:24 WindHero hmm
00:24 WindHero is there anything that blocks mods from setting that value during runtime?
00:24 WindHero I clearly have my mod set to write a value to there
00:24 WindHero but when I check the config file after, nothing's there
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00:29 Piggybear87 Ooops, Meant to minimize, not exit...
00:35 WindHero alright, got it working :D
00:35 WindHero I swore I set the permissions for the config file right
00:35 WindHero but I was wrong
00:35 WindHero I set them on the wrong installation :P
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00:36 LemonLake Hai guise
00:36 LemonLake Me on real mint now :D
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01:53 LemonLake So, this is the error which I was not getting. This is the error which caused me this entire trouble in the first damn place.
01:53 LemonLake http://imgur.com/fPxAO9I
01:57 kaeza LemonLake, you are probably trying to index using a nil value
01:57 LemonLake Indeed I am.
01:57 kaeza LemonLake, can you pastebin the relevant code?
01:57 LemonLake Except I was not being told that on Windows, so I've seen spending hours trying to get a Mint VM to work.
01:57 kaeza lol
01:57 LemonLake And now I've just got a dual-boot mint working and I wish I'd done it sooner, this is AMAZING.
01:57 LemonLake Plus I get errors now.
01:58 LemonLake Which is better than an errorless crash.
01:58 LemonLake I can give you the bitbucket if you wish
01:58 LemonLake https://bitbucket.org/LemonLake/ace-of-picks/src
01:58 LemonLake I believe the issue lies somewhere within ace.lua around player joining.
01:58 kaeza welcome to the world of Linux. have a seat, a "which is the bestest distro" flamewar will follow shortly
01:59 LemonLake we had a mini-one earlier
01:59 kaeza ah welcome party I see :P
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01:59 LemonLake :P
02:00 Vazon hrmp stupid internet stoped
02:00 LemonLake How can I get the console to show?
02:00 LemonLake I don't have a visible console
02:01 Vazon Lemon what are you trying to do?
02:01 LemonLake I'm on mint now
02:02 LemonLake But the game doesn't launch with a console or anything
02:02 Megaf People, I have a great idea for the best mod evar, but I cant code
02:02 Megaf so, help?
02:02 Vazon What is it Megaf?
02:02 LemonLake I would like to hear this idea
02:02 Megaf Vazon; Skype
02:02 Vazon ok
02:03 Megaf LemonLake; want to joing the skype chat?
02:03 kaeza LemonLake, try using xterm/rxvt
02:03 LemonLake I have a reaaaaaaaaaaaly old version of skype because I'm on mint
02:03 LemonLake But if it's text, sure
02:03 Megaf yep, text, my skype is eumegaf
02:03 LemonLake Is xterm builtin to linux?
02:04 kaeza it's part of the windowing system
02:17 SmugLeaf 22:03:13 < LemonLake> I have a reaaaaaaaaaaaly old version of skype because I'm on mint
02:18 SmugLeaf < LemonLake> I have a reaaaaaaaaaaaly old version of skype because I'm on linux and skype is shit and will never release an update
02:18 SmugLeaf fixed
02:18 LemonLake yes
02:18 SmugLeaf skype is shit for multiple reasons, but leaving linux to die is top 5 for sure
02:19 SmugLeaf please tox don't be crap
02:19 SmugLeaf please please please
02:36 Piggybear87 How do you do "last seen"?
02:42 Piggybear87 **seen**
02:43 Piggybear87 print "Hello?"
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02:58 LemonLake Okay, back to my error
02:58 LemonLake ace.textures seems to be nil
02:58 LemonLake No, empty
02:58 LemonLake I just did a dump
03:22 LemonLake So it works.
03:22 MegAFK Bye all
03:22 LemonLake Okay, cya.
03:23 kaeza away nicks kill
03:23 LemonLake ^
03:27 LemonLake Ugh
03:27 LemonLake Why can't minetest just catch lua errors
03:30 LemonLake oh no wonder I kept thinking that was a stupid error
03:30 LemonLake Turns out I can deceive myself into thinking there's an entire block of code where there is actually not
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05:22 realtinymonster i hate google...
05:25 realtinymonster no youtube acc. without google acc. , no google acc. without phone #!
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06:23 deezl yo
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09:44 nman3600 hi
09:45 LemonLake Sup
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10:06 RealBadAngel hi LemonLake
10:06 LemonLake Hey!
10:06 RealBadAngel i can see that one more happy linux user has born ;)
10:06 VanessaE hi
10:06 LemonLake So much progress is being made on this Linux :D
10:06 LemonLake Indeed :D
10:07 RealBadAngel i told ya, nowadays linuxes are way better than winshit
10:07 LemonLake By far.
10:07 VanessaE I've run exclusively linux on my desktop for ...oh..  15 years I guess.
10:07 LemonLake The only problem with them is that they lack apps
10:07 LemonLake Apart from that, they're perfect.
10:07 RealBadAngel not really
10:07 LemonLake They have a plentiful but a lot of the main PC ones aren't up-to-date or something
10:08 RealBadAngel you are just used to paid, windows versions
10:08 RealBadAngel just look out for free alternatives
10:08 LemonLake Yeah
10:08 LemonLake I've always got my windows there on just reboot if I actually need it
10:08 RealBadAngel i do also have windows to boot in, just for testing the shaders work
10:09 LemonLake My Windows will probably be for gaming and video editing, and this Linux for everything else
10:09 RealBadAngel theres Wine
10:09 LemonLake There is but it's not the best
10:09 RealBadAngel you can launch win apps in linux env
10:09 RealBadAngel not all of them, but a great number
10:10 nman3600 hey RealBadAngel
10:10 LemonLake Does text get scaled automatically?
10:10 RealBadAngel including windows builds of minetest ;)
10:10 LemonLake :D
10:10 LemonLake No it does not, perfect
10:10 LemonLake I can use pixel offsets for this death tracker >:)
10:10 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE, nman3600
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10:10 VanessaE hey RBA
10:11 nman3600 ugh mesecon buttons should trigger steel doors without you having to wire it up :(
10:12 LemonLake I think it's pretty neat that you have to wire it up
10:12 LemonLake Makes it more 'realistic'
10:12 nman3600 with the style of the hour i've got wiring it up will ruin it all and will make it look ugly
10:13 nman3600 house*
10:13 LemonLake You're making a multitest mod, why not make meseconds support and have blocks with little holes in them?
10:13 nman3600 maybe
10:13 LemonLake The NBE works perfectly now, and you understand basic for loops
10:13 VanessaE imho if mesecons can open a steel door at all, that's a bug
10:13 VanessaE steel doors are supposed to be locked.
10:14 LemonLake Oh, there's the reason
10:14 LemonLake Is it possible at all to get the width of text in pixels?
10:15 RealBadAngel btw, i am thinkin about some weird drawtype
10:15 LemonLake I like those.
10:15 RealBadAngel designed for use just with l-system trees
10:15 LemonLake Throw a C++ IDE at me.
10:15 LemonLake :O
10:15 RealBadAngel kinda mix of nodebox and microblocks
10:16 LemonLake YES.
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10:16 RealBadAngel in such node only trunk and leaves could be mixed
10:16 LemonLake For super detailed L-Sys trees
10:16 RealBadAngel exactly
10:17 LemonLake That's an awesome idea
10:17 RealBadAngel now to get nice shape, the tree has to be big
10:17 RealBadAngel and seen from the distance
10:18 LemonLake Also, for performance on lower-end machines you MAY want some sort of LOD
10:18 LemonLake Perhaps this effect's only visible if 'fancy trees' is enabled
10:18 nman3600 TOMMOROW IS ANOTHER DAY
10:19 RealBadAngel if that was made in core, as a drawtype, no one would propably notice slowdowns
10:19 LemonLake True
10:20 RealBadAngel even if, paying a few fps for highly detailed trees would be worth it
10:21 LemonLake What's the best C++ IDE for Linux?
10:21 RealBadAngel im using geany
10:21 jin_xi qt creator is nice
10:21 RealBadAngel imho the best one, for c++ and lua together
10:22 LemonLake ^
10:22 nman3600 memorandum is an awesome mod
10:22 VanessaE RealBadAngel: +100000000
10:22 LemonLake By the looks of it Sublime Text has C++ support too
10:22 LemonLake But I'm gonna try Geany first
10:22 RealBadAngel also eclipse is here
10:22 VanessaE (for the drawtype)
10:22 LemonLake Yeah, I can't get eclipse to work for some reason
10:22 VanessaE good luck coding it though.
10:23 LemonLake So yeah, is there a way to get the text width in pixels or not?
10:23 RealBadAngel VanessaE, that is actually was easier than framed glass for example
10:23 RealBadAngel *way easier
10:23 LemonLake If not, could I add it to the lua api?
10:23 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah but how will you decide how much of that node is trunks versus fruits versus leaves #1 versus leaves #2?
10:24 RealBadAngel count all zeroes and ones
10:24 VanessaE that's enough to find two types
10:24 RealBadAngel and twos ;)
10:24 VanessaE what about he other two?
10:24 VanessaE there are four possible objects in a tree
10:24 RealBadAngel air/trunk/leaves
10:25 RealBadAngel and fruit
10:25 VanessaE ok five then
10:25 VanessaE air, trunk, leaves #1, leaves #2, and fruit
10:25 RealBadAngel four?
10:25 RealBadAngel ah 5
10:25 RealBadAngel so lets say one byte for microblock
10:25 VanessaE (or maybe I was using the fruit for "leaves #2"?  in which case, 4)
10:25 VanessaE yes?
10:26 VanessaE that's 1 bit per space
10:26 RealBadAngel if fruit is present just sub it and leave the rest
10:26 VanessaE you'd need to bytes per.
10:26 VanessaE two*
10:26 RealBadAngel then to calculate the drop count wheter number is bigger, trunk or leaves
10:27 RealBadAngel and drop it
10:27 VanessaE so you'd only drop just the one node type that has the most?
10:27 RealBadAngel well, in fact we dont have to
10:27 RealBadAngel we can drop two stacks
10:27 RealBadAngel with exact numbers
10:27 VanessaE no, that'll give too much
10:27 VanessaE after all, this all fits into one node
10:28 VanessaE so your idea makes more sense.
10:28 VanessaE or at most, give one unit of each type that appears in the node
10:28 VanessaE if there is leaves, fruit, and trunk in the node, give one of each on drop
10:28 LemonLake ^
10:28 VanessaE regardless of just how much there is
10:28 LemonLake maybe it should be randomized for trunks?
10:28 VanessaE but even that might seem like too much..
10:28 LemonLake like 1-3
10:29 LemonLake I mean 1 in 3 of dropping
10:30 VanessaE that might confuse people
10:30 VanessaE I think RBA's initial idea is the best - drop whatever is most common
10:30 LemonLake Actually, yeah
10:31 VanessaE now, the question is how to store this custom node?
10:31 VanessaE it's gonna require two bytes for sure.
10:31 VanessaE param2 could be used
10:31 VanessaE but what about the other byte?
10:31 LemonLake store it in a freezer
10:32 VanessaE in the map, silly :P
10:32 LemonLake do properties not get stored in the map?
10:32 VanessaE the node def does not, but there's always node metadata
10:32 LemonLake yeah, why not go with that?
10:32 VanessaE but that's wasteful if there is a better way
10:32 LemonLake can you not add a param3?
10:32 VanessaE wish hmmmm were here, he'd probably want to weigh in on this
10:33 VanessaE no, can't do that, there are bandwith and map size/storage implications, as well as map version issues
10:33 LemonLake ah.
10:33 sea VanessaE do you work on minetest every day?
10:33 LemonLake so you can only store a single byte in a param2?
10:33 VanessaE sea:  I am here most every day but I do not work on the engine.
10:34 VanessaE I contribute ideas, sometimes test a bit of code, and I of course work on mods from time to time, and textures.
10:34 VanessaE mostly I drive the devs nuts :)
10:34 LemonLake Is there a name size limit?
10:34 VanessaE LemonLake: not as far as I am aware.
10:34 LemonLake Uh-oh
10:35 LemonLake Now this is a problem :/
10:35 VanessaE we could use multiple node names but we try to avoid doing that
10:35 VanessaE what?
10:35 LemonLake Now I gotta think of a clever workaround
10:35 LemonLake Because if someone has a really long name, it's gonna go over the other and look weird
10:35 VanessaE LemonLake: the way mesecons does it.
10:35 VanessaE or pipeworks used to.
10:35 LemonLake Just limit the name?
10:36 LemonLake (substring)
10:36 VanessaE we used to assign attributes to single bits in the name of the node
10:36 LemonLake I mean for players
10:36 VanessaE 8 of them in the case of mesecons I think, 6 in pipeworks.
10:36 LemonLake Sorry
10:36 VanessaE what do player names have to do with anything?
10:37 LemonLake I'm asking my own question, here
10:37 VanessaE oh ok
10:37 nman3600 LemonLake you shot urself in the foot again
10:37 LemonLake nman3600 No I did not
10:37 nman3600 dude the song
10:37 LemonLake nman3600 I'm not deaf
10:37 nman3600 :)
10:37 LemonLake You might be but I'm not
10:38 VanessaE and no, afaik player names if they have a limit it's fairly long
10:38 * nman3600 rolls his eyes hoping for no-one else to join this awkward conversation
10:38 LemonLake Okay...hmm
10:38 VanessaE you'll probably need to do some kind of clipping.
10:38 LemonLake Well the text hud element has a scale
10:38 LemonLake Guess I'd just go with that
10:39 VanessaE as for the nodes, one could use multiple nodes to store these extended attributes to avoid using metadata or a new map version, but that's *thousands* of possible combinations.
10:39 LemonLake :/
10:40 VanessaE it's either that or you do "color cell" limits like we did in the old days
10:40 nman3600 LemonLake YOU SONG THIEF
10:41 VanessaE actually you can't do that either.  damn.
10:41 LemonLake :/
10:41 VanessaE there's no way around it.  this needs two bytes per node.
10:41 LemonLake The idea is awesome...executing it seems...impossible
10:41 VanessaE crap.
10:42 VanessaE there are FIVE node types.
10:42 VanessaE this needs THREE bytes.
10:42 LemonLake D:
10:42 sea What is it that you're trying to store?
10:42 * nman3600 arrests LemonLake for stealing nman3600's song he was gonna play
10:42 VanessaE I was right.  air, trunk, leaves 1, leaves 2, fruit.  At that rate, you may as well allow for a sideways trunk for branches as well.
10:43 LemonLake nman3600 just choose another song
10:43 nman3600 i did
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10:43 nman3600 it was on the end of the list the one u stole
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10:43 LemonLake haha
10:43 nman3600 so dibs playing self destruct
10:43 VanessaE sea: trying to find a graceful way to create microblocks for the purposes of growing trees that are as detailed as moretrees but smaller.
10:43 reactor хыхы
10:43 LemonLake crap
10:43 LemonLake self destruct was my next song
10:43 LemonLake lol jk
10:43 VanessaE RealBadAngel: what about the set_meta_nodedef code, or whatever it was?
10:44 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I think we're gonna have to resort to that.
10:44 LemonLake Argh that's a bit horrible
10:44 LemonLake but I guess it's the only way
10:44 nman3600 LemonLake i'm gonna play bassline kickin silverback remix next :D
10:44 LemonLake NOOO
10:44 LemonLake That's my legit next song!
10:44 reactor Why doesn't IRC mod work with Unicode?
10:44 nman3600 LemonLake deal with it
10:44 nman3600 u can play self destruct
10:44 LemonLake Bah
10:44 LemonLake Nah
10:45 LemonLake You play it, it's revenge
10:45 sea Why do you need two bytes and are you sure that you can't use less?
10:45 VanessaE reactor:  it will send it out from a server, but incoming unicode is blank.  dunno why
10:45 reactor Because I need Russian support.
10:45 RealBadAngel i would love set_meta_nodedef in
10:45 reactor VanessaE: exactly.
10:45 reactor Also, I see some people's input, but not the others.
10:45 reactor Most just talk with little squares.
10:46 * nman3600 suspects someone turned his smooth lighting off
10:46 VanessaE sea: three bytes, because there are at least five types of objects to be represented, and this has to be crammed into the space of a single node that doesn't already have "space" in the map entry for this kind of node model.
10:46 reactor The former must be UNIX systems, the latter -- Windows and CP1251.
10:47 VanessaE sea: five possible items means you need three bits to store the item ID, and there are eight spaces (microblocks) in the node to place one of these items.
10:47 VanessaE hence the three bytes
10:47 VanessaE reactor:  gettext?
10:48 RealBadAngel ive we decide to split node into 1/8ths (each dimension by half)
10:48 VanessaE reactor: yeah, I think meta_set_nodedef is the only way to do here.
10:48 reactor VanessaE: vanilla
10:48 reactor how are nodes related to text?
10:48 VanessaE reactor: I mean did you compile the server with support for it?
10:48 RealBadAngel we end up with 8 mircronodes that needs ids
10:48 LemonLake Does printscr not go to the clipboard@
10:48 LemonLake ?
10:48 VanessaE fuck
10:48 VanessaE tab complete FAIL
10:49 VanessaE reactor, did you compile your server with support for gettext?
10:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah, I think meta_set_nodedef is the only way to do here.
10:49 VanessaE there.
10:49 RealBadAngel lets say 4 bits per micro, it will mean 4 bytes
10:50 VanessaE LemonLake: usually you either get a prompt, or the image is immediately saved to your homedir as something like "Screenshot - date - time.png"
10:50 RealBadAngel if some1 will try to say it cannot be done
10:50 RealBadAngel lemme find something
10:50 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah, that's a non-starter.  meta_set_nodedef.  has to be done that way.
10:50 VanessaE 4 bytes would double the size of a map node entry
10:51 reactor VanessaE: I've tried gettext, same results.
10:51 LemonLake http://i.imgur.com/EBtoFSE.png
10:51 VanessaE reactor: weird,
10:51 reactor I haven't tried setting LANG with gettext, though
10:51 LemonLake So the text limiting does not work
10:51 VanessaE LemonLake: what's with the red lines on the left?
10:51 LemonLake That's the world edge
10:52 sea How much space is actually available?
10:52 LemonLake Players cant go beyond it
10:52 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dncEFDQSvkM
10:52 RealBadAngel watch that
10:52 VanessaE sea: in a standard map file, there is exactly 1 byte that can be repurposed for something like this, along with 4 other bits I think
10:52 LemonLake Focus is in the top right on my image
10:53 VanessaE shit, no even param2 can't be repurposed.
10:53 VanessaE these nodes would have facedir.
10:53 VanessaE that means there's only like 3 or 4 bits in one spot and a few bits in another spot that are unused.
10:54 VanessaE there's no way to do this without meta_set_nodedef
10:54 sea How do you know there's no way? Do I get a prize if I could do it?
10:54 LemonLake Yes.
10:54 RealBadAngel a cake
10:55 reactor What exactly should I do? Use both gettext and LANG?
10:55 LemonLake Sea, the cake was a lie
10:55 VanessaE sea: you've got 5 block types (including air).  7 if you count sideways trunks (east/west face, and north/south face).
10:55 * reactor slaps LemonLake
10:55 VanessaE you've got 8 microblocks in a node
10:55 reactor It isn't a lie.
10:55 VanessaE so that's 5^8 possible combinations
10:56 VanessaE no way in hell to do that with raw nodes, we only have a bit over 32700 of those available.
10:56 LemonLake If we store the bits in the meta, that shouldn't be TOO big
10:56 VanessaE in the meta, sure
10:56 sea I'm pretty sure there's a way to do it.
10:56 LemonLake It's only taking around 8 real nodes space
10:56 LemonLake If not less
10:57 sea Do you typically store data for multiple nodes?
10:57 VanessaE but this is something that needs to be run past hmmmm before any code is written
10:57 sea So you'd have this 5^8 combinations for node A, then another 5^8 for node B, and so on?
10:57 VanessaE sea: the 5^8 was just to illustrate that you can't even define that many nodes to do it the "hard" way
10:58 LemonLake scale = {x=100,y=20}, What's wrong here? Why is the text not being limited?
10:59 VanessaE not sure, LemonLake
10:59 LemonLake I might just limit the name to 15 characters
10:59 LemonLake or I can have two/three line death messages but that's a bit annoying
11:02 sea Okay, I think there's a really epic compression scheme that will do what you want.
11:02 LemonLake Compression?
11:02 LemonLake Bits is as small as you're gonna get
11:03 sea Store the information in the spatial relations between multiple nodes and have the nodes themselves only store enough information to calculate how to get their values from the others.
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11:04 fireglow Didn't the forums used to be xenforo or something?
11:04 LemonLake Something like that, why?
11:04 sea So you have some starting node A, and you suppose that each node has 8 bits, and you define a particular path across all nodes. Then you suppose the existence of a function that maps onto all acceptable configurations of leaves and so on, and you let node (n) have value f(f((n-1)) + n)
11:05 LemonLake Hmm
11:05 LemonLake Maybe
11:05 fireglow I've just noticed the change, and wondered why
11:05 LemonLake What about just storing the seed?
11:05 sea and then all you have to do is pick an 'f' that encodes 'tree-like-ness' very well
11:05 LemonLake Then generating it on each load?
11:05 LemonLake If it's C++ generated, it'll be fast
11:06 VanessaE fireglow: they used to be punbb
11:07 RealBadAngel have you saw the video i linked?
11:07 LemonLake Yes, why?
11:07 fireglow VanessaE: ah yes, right
11:07 VanessaE reactor: I watched it
11:07 RealBadAngel in mc  mod you can build with all the nodes with size of 1/16th of regular one
11:08 LemonLake wrong name :L
11:08 RealBadAngel including redstone
11:08 VanessaE doesn't help us with actually implementing the idea
11:08 LemonLake Yes, but we're trying to understand how we're gonna store those nodes
11:08 RealBadAngel also you can shrink the player
11:08 VanessaE there's only one way to do it.
11:08 LemonLake VanessaE; we're generating the trees here, right?
11:08 LemonLake Why not just store the seed?
11:09 VanessaE LemonLake: moretrees in particular, which are not seeded, they're modeled.
11:09 RealBadAngel would take too long to restore the tree
11:09 RealBadAngel not to mention the damage to the tree done by digging
11:09 LemonLake hm
11:09 RealBadAngel so, forget it ;)
11:09 LemonLake then meta IS the only way
11:10 RealBadAngel i think so
11:10 VanessaE reactor: how far off do you figure nore's rebase of meta_set_nodedef is from current HEAD?
11:10 RealBadAngel either that or highly specialized draw type just for lsystems
11:10 VanessaE (since we DID have it working at the time, and reasonably well)
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11:10 VanessaE no, forget the drawtype
11:10 VanessaE do it generically.
11:10 VanessaE it'll be useful later.
11:10 LemonLake ^
11:11 Eater4 VanessaE: Hi
11:11 VanessaE hi Eater4
11:11 RealBadAngel ofc it will be useful for everything out there
11:11 VanessaE RealBadAngel: how far off do you figure nore's rebase of meta_set_nodedef is from current HEAD?  (tab complete FAIL again :-/ )
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11:11 VanessaE (sorry reactor :P )
11:12 LemonLake do real instead of rea
11:12 rotcaer иНЖАЛИД ДЕЖИЦЕ.
11:12 VanessaE hey now
11:12 LemonLake dafuq
11:12 VanessaE I don't read Cyrillic but a curse is a curse in any language :)
11:13 LemonLake I think it says Invalid Device.
11:13 Eater4 lol
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11:13 RealBadAngel VanessaE, we shall ask nore imho
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11:14 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah.  But we also need to hammer on the other devs to get some agreement to merge the fucking thing once and for all
11:14 RealBadAngel SN will do
11:14 VanessaE I dunno
11:14 VanessaE I think this will need a bit more than just one agree
11:15 RealBadAngel me, nore and sn
11:15 RealBadAngel thats 3
11:15 RealBadAngel enough
11:15 VanessaE yes, but hmmmm will have something to say about it, I think?
11:16 RealBadAngel according to rules yes, but 2 votes of another devs are enough to push anything
11:16 VanessaE yep I know
11:17 VanessaE but I mean, he's the map expert and all
11:17 RealBadAngel even c55 knew that it is needed, he started the work
11:17 RealBadAngel rather mapgen expert, not the map
11:19 RealBadAngel real problem behind the scenes is just storing more data in db
11:19 RealBadAngel nothing more
11:20 RealBadAngel and we are already pushing there lotsa data
11:20 RealBadAngel with raising limit of active entities for example
11:20 LemonLake Does the sky go black when near the world edge?
11:20 VanessaE but wasn't there a big issue with the network side of things?
11:20 VanessaE LemonLake: no
11:20 RealBadAngel each node can already have its meta
11:20 LemonLake Weird
11:20 LemonLake When at the world border and looking down-ish, the sky goes black
11:21 VanessaE LemonLake: it does that no matter where you are
11:21 LemonLake Oh, okay
11:21 VanessaE (personally I consider that a bug)
11:21 LemonLake Same
11:21 RealBadAngel dont look down, you may fall into black hole ;
11:22 VanessaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JYkMhQ9gf8
11:22 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ^^^^
11:23 LemonLake Yeah, I don't believe it
11:23 LemonLake The sky isn't distorted enough
11:25 RealBadAngel hehe
11:30 VanessaE ok, I'm outta here.  need sleep
11:30 VanessaE night :)
11:30 VanessaE (or something)
11:30 LemonLake Cy
11:30 LemonLake a
11:31 rotcaer Is there a way to make DM's energy pellets fly faster?
11:32 rotcaer Also, can a player launch them?
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11:46 sfan5 meow
11:46 sfan5 hi everyone
11:47 rotcaer hi every512
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11:49 * LemonLake mewos at sfan5
11:49 LemonLake mewos...
11:49 LemonLake genius
11:49 LemonLake bloody genius
11:49 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
11:49 fireglow mew mew
11:49 Exio4 hihihihi
11:49 Exio4 how is it going wild shibes
11:50 LemonLake shit, wbu?
11:50 rotcaer wild who?
11:50 sfan5 http://redd.it/26ja4i
11:50 sfan5 lol
11:51 Exio4 LemonLake: same
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11:51 LemonLake "you're an encoder"
11:51 LemonLake "What do you encode in? UTF-8?"
11:51 LemonLake this fuckin guy
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11:54 LemonLake Yo asie
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11:57 LemonLake I might just go on okcupid just to troll the developers.
11:57 sfan5 uhh. why?
11:57 LemonLake I get bored often.
11:58 LemonLake Do text hud elements have alpha values?
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12:03 rotcaer So, does anyone else notice HUD disappearing?
12:03 raffahacks What is okcupid
12:05 raffahacks Lemonlake
12:05 LemonLake Dw about it
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12:23 raffahacks This chan's too quiet...
12:24 LemonLake It's normal.
12:24 sfan5 ^
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12:33 LemonLake Slowly getting there...
12:33 nman3600 lol hi
12:33 LemonLake Can you draw in the loading screen?
12:34 LemonLake Me did it!
12:34 rotcaer So the HUD?
12:34 LemonLake Yeah.
12:34 LemonLake Add a little message like 'Loading from previous save. This may take a while'
12:35 LemonLake Because otherwise, it looks like the game has frozen on 'Connecting to server...'
12:35 LemonLake Nman, cmere
12:37 LemonLake Hmm, the multiple death messages doesn't work
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13:03 LemonLake Okay, the counter finally works
13:03 LemonLake I just need to turn down the spacing, then after that I need to make them automatically go back to the top when one is removed
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13:13 LemonLake +RealBadAngel hmmmm is here if you wanted to speak to him about your idea
13:15 nman3600 :( i missed sethblings livestream by a few hours
13:15 LemonLake I watched the whole thing
13:16 nman3600 was it good?
13:17 LemonLake meh
13:17 PenguinDad sethbling?
13:17 LemonLake he was building a picture of guude the entire time
13:17 LemonLake for 3 hours
13:17 LemonLake not all that
13:17 nman3600 PenguinDad the youtuber
13:20 sfan5 PenguinDad: popular MC youtuber
13:20 LemonLake does redstone n' shit
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13:38 reactor updated the game, now HUD is there, apart from the health bar.
13:38 kaeza joined #minetest
13:38 reactor And no footsteps sound.
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14:01 kaeza mornings
14:01 LemonLake Wrong channel, yo
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14:08 * sfan5 meows at kaeza
14:09 * kaeza purrs at sfan5
14:10 * Jordach purrs at both sfan5 and kaeza
14:10 Jordach <- not playing skyrim, honestly
14:10 * CraigyDavi woofs at sfan5, kaeza and Jordach
14:10 * sfan5 meows at CraigyDavi
14:10 * CraigyDavi barks at sfan5
14:14 * sfan5 flips CraigyDavi
14:16 * CraigyDavi howls
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14:24 LemonLake Brb, having sound issues
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14:53 ShadowNinja LemonLake: You need to create the ace.textures table.  Add "ace.textures = {}" at the top of wieldview.lua.
14:53 lemonlake_ ShadowNinja
14:54 lemonlake_ I solved that problem a long time ago
14:54 lemonlake_ Also, in init.lua, there's ace = { textures = {}, } etc
14:55 lemonlake_ It was the item that was nil
14:55 ShadowNinja lemonlake_: O.K. good.  :-)  I noticed that git hadn't been updated and assumed it wasn't fixed.
14:55 lemonlake_ I don't update the public repo often
14:55 lemonlake_ I haven't updated anything since I got the linux
14:56 lemonlake_ wut
14:56 ShadowNinja I update my repos frequently.  They're a backup if my computer dies.
14:56 lemonlake_ I've never liked using Git
14:57 ShadowNinja <3 git.
14:57 ShadowNinja You just have to learn to use it.  See the tutorials on git-scm.org.
14:57 lemonlake_ I know how to use Git.
14:57 lemonlake_ I've used it for 6 years.
14:58 lemonlake_ I just dislike it because it clutters up my workspace unnecessarily.
14:58 ShadowNinja Ah, O.K.  It only adds .git files/folder though, which are hidden.
14:58 lemonlake_ And hidden files are always shown for me
14:59 ShadowNinja Not unless you use ls -a, have a file manager that doesn't handle them well, or, possibly, are using Windows.
15:14 lemonlake_ I may have to make the worlds far less complex
15:14 lemonlake_ They take way too long to generate and load
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15:16 realtinymonster anyone want a Google AdWords coupon?
15:16 lemonlake_ That's a thing?
15:16 realtinymonster yep
15:17 realtinymonster i got one in the mail for no reason, and i don't want it
15:17 lemonlake_ Fair enough
15:17 realtinymonster do you want it lemonlake_ ?
15:17 lemonlake_ I don't run any sites that have ads
15:17 lemonlake_ So no thanks
15:17 realtinymonster well
15:18 realtinymonster difference
15:18 realtinymonster AdWORDS is the ads in the google search engine
15:18 lemonlake_ By that I mean I don't have any sites that I want in the sidebar
15:18 lemonlake_ I know what adwords is.
15:18 lemonlake_ If I was a web developer, why would I not?
15:18 realtinymonster ah
15:18 realtinymonster lol
15:18 realtinymonster good point
15:18 lemonlake_ Plus most of my customers are expected to either have an adblock or ignore that part, so no point.
15:19 realtinymonster yeah
15:19 realtinymonster anyone else!
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15:19 realtinymonster Krock!
15:20 Krock hi
15:20 lemonlake_ Want an Adwords coupon/
15:20 lemonlake_ ?
15:20 Krock I'm scared
15:21 realtinymonster why?
15:21 Krock ^
15:22 Krock cuz of you
15:22 realtinymonster what's so scary?
15:22 Krock the monstr
15:22 realtinymonster i'm a friendly soft monster
15:23 realtinymonster (LOL)
15:23 lemonlake_ yeah right
15:23 * Krock is still trying to fix his xban2 rework
15:23 realtinymonster lemonlake_: D:
15:24 lemonlake_ Megaf and vazon are working on this global ban thing
15:24 * realtinymonster cries softly in the corner
15:24 lemonlake_ which I think is pretty neat
15:24 Krock globa ban?
15:24 realtinymonster how about Nanof?
15:24 Krock *global
15:24 realtinymonster :P
15:25 lemonlake_ basically, an admin can type /globalban to a user and supply a reason
15:25 lemonlake_ they get banned from that server
15:25 lemonlake_ but if they have 3 valid bans with reason, they're banned from all servers for a month
15:25 lemonlake_ valid bans with reason = 3 bans, on different servers, with a reason supplied at once
15:25 Amaz That seems strict...
15:25 realtinymonster could be overused, making minetest servers horrible
15:26 lemonlake_ yeah they wanted me to help but i wasnt interested
15:26 Amaz And how would it work?
15:26 realtinymonster speaking of minetest, what is the results of the 3rd person mode?
15:26 lemonlake_ bans would be stored in an online MySQL database
15:27 lemonlake_ its been existant for ages?
15:27 Krock #norulesserverftw
15:27 realtinymonster ^ easily hackable
15:27 lemonlake_ nope
15:27 lemonlake_ it would be handled in an AJAX request
15:27 lemonlake_ easily unhackable
15:27 Krock easily hackable*
15:27 lemonlake_ either way
15:28 lemonlake_ i saw many flaws with the plan
15:28 Amaz 3rd person mode seems quite glitcy at the moment...
15:28 realtinymonster :(
15:28 lemonlake_ so i just decided not to work on it
15:28 lemonlake_ Amaz: third person mode works perfectly fine?
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15:28 lemonlake_ whatever just happened there
15:29 realtinymonster i was hoping to use that in my game! D,:
15:29 lemonlake_ globalbans?
15:29 realtinymonster ni
15:29 lemonlake_ what?
15:29 realtinymonster 3rd person
15:29 lemonlake_ it works perfectly fine...
15:29 realtinymonster I can't use if its glitchy
15:29 lemonlake_ its in base engine
15:29 Amaz It may just be me, but if I wear armor, then I can see the armor for a instat at certain times in 1st person mode... Which can be a bit irritating.
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15:29 lemonlake_ 3d armor and third person are perfect for me
15:29 Amaz Yep. It's first person that is the glitchy thing.
15:29 lemonlake_ And first person...
15:30 realtinymonster hmm
15:30 lemonlake_ have you posted a bug report?
15:30 Amaz Nope.
15:30 realtinymonster #moontest I go!
15:30 lemonlake_ It's most likely a system related issue, so post your specs and a bug report on either the forum post or github if there is one for 3darmor
15:30 Amaz Okay.
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15:32 realtinymonster its the Big F!
15:32 lemonlake_ the big f_
15:32 lemonlake_ the big flying flip
15:32 realtinymonster lol
15:32 realtinymonster Megaf_: ^
15:33 Megaf_ Hi all
15:34 lemonlake_ How can I get the index that I just inserted into a table?
15:34 kaeza you can't
15:34 kaeza you must keep track of that yourself
15:34 lemonlake_ Dang
15:35 kaeza (before inserting)
15:35 lemonlake_ See I'm removing it 4.5 seconds later
15:35 lemonlake_ Oh there's my problem.
15:35 lemonlake_ I'm removing it then accessing it.
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15:35 lemonlake_ Wait, no
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15:45 lemonlake_ Hm
15:45 realtinymonster hmmm
15:45 lemonlake_ I'm gonna get SourceTree and push to git in a minute, I think I'm gonna need some help here
15:46 realtinymonster using git or what? lemonlake_
15:46 lemonlake_ Something else, I'll say if I don't solve it
15:46 realtinymonster ok
15:47 reactor ...hmm
15:47 reactor Tablet players can't reload the gun!
15:47 realtinymonster hmm?
15:48 realtinymonster tablet players of what can't reload the gun reactor?
15:48 PenguinDad they're much easier to beat then :D
15:48 lemonlake_ You mean like android players?
15:50 lemonlake_ I'm gonna record this little issue first
15:50 kaeza reactor, tell the players to ditch Buildcrap and get the real one
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15:50 lemonlake_ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
15:50 lemonlake_ tbh I think it should stay on computers
15:50 Amaz ^
15:50 lemonlake_ mobile support shouldn't be able to connect to pc servers
15:51 Amaz ^
15:51 kaeza
15:51 realtinymonster
15:51 realtinymonster
15:51 realtinymonster hi
15:51 lemonlake_ I don't understand this keyboard layout
15:52 lemonlake_ ←↓→ but where's the up arrow D:
15:52 reactor realtinymonster: idk
15:52 reactor If there's technical compatibility, no need to break it.
15:53 reactor But I wonder why not use right mouse button for reload.
15:53 kaeza AltGr+Shift+U=↑
15:53 lemonlake_ because that's for zoom
15:53 kaeza lemonlake_, ^
15:53 lemonlake_
15:53 lemonlake_ ah neat
15:53 lemonlake_ thanks mate
15:53 reactor ah zoom
15:53 lemonlake_ I'm used to the windows keyboard layout, they usually only support the right accents
15:53 lemonlake_ with alt gr
15:53 lemonlake_ and euro
15:53 lemonlake_ €eæ↓→ø which are now those
15:54 lemonlake_ :L
15:54 realtinymonster lemonlake_: you on linux?
15:54 reactor ↓€€↑
15:54 lemonlake_ Mint
15:54 Amaz ¥
15:54 lemonlake_ Best decision I ever made
15:55 realtinymonster yes
15:55 lemonlake_ I used to have a slow crappy laptop with a really old linux on it
15:55 * kaeza is running Ubuntu 14.04 on a VM, with Windows 7 as host
15:55 lemonlake_ Then I got windows 7
15:55 lemonlake_ Then I got this OS in a VM but it sucked
15:55 lemonlake_ So I dual-booted. Best decision ever
15:56 lemonlake_ Both operating systems, same specs, switchable with two keyboard strokes.
15:56 realtinymonster lemonlake_: Ctrl + shift + U, let go U, type unicode code, then let go ctrl + shift
15:56 lemonlake_ whoaaa
15:56 lemonlake_ guys
15:56 lemonlake_ all these linux tricks are epic
15:56 lemonlake_ why have I never seen these before
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15:57 SylvieLorxu Note: That only works in GNOME
15:57 realtinymonster text is sarcasm free...
15:57 realtinymonster no!
15:57 SylvieLorxu Yes.
15:57 realtinymonster SylvieLorxu: it works on KDE too
15:57 SylvieLorxu Since when?
15:57 lemonlake_ ޅ
15:57 lemonlake_ It works on this one.
15:57 lemonlake_ ģ
15:57 SylvieLorxu What is "this one"?
15:57 realtinymonster since Linux Mint Petra KDE i guess :P
15:57 lemonlake_ Mint 16 Cinnammon
15:57 realtinymonster yay!
15:58 realtinymonster cinnamon works too
15:58 SylvieLorxu Hmm, last time I tried that on KDE it didn't work because KDE had their own way of doing that
15:58 * Calinou had to boot on older kernel…
15:58 SylvieLorxu And of course it works on Cinnamon, Cinnamon == GNOME
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15:58 * realtinymonster doesn't cade about old kernels
15:58 lemonlake_ http://i.imgur.com/l9yiKtY.png
15:58 realtinymonster *care
15:58 lemonlake_ I actually have a 2TB SSD.
15:59 lemonlake_ But it's split into two, the first half is for OS.
15:59 lemonlake_ That's partitioned
15:59 realtinymonster I have a face!
15:59 lemonlake_ hence 410gb
15:59 realtinymonster and a nose!
15:59 sfan5 <lemonlake_> I actually have a 2TB SSD.
15:59 lemonlake_ That's neat.
15:59 sfan5 isn't that expensive?
15:59 lemonlake_ Well it's a custom built rig
15:59 Calinou <lemonlake_> I actually have a 2TB SSD.
15:59 Calinou which one? cost?
15:59 lemonlake_ Actually
15:59 sfan5 yeah but a 2TB SSD is still very expensive
15:59 lemonlake_ It might not be an SSD
15:59 lemonlake_ I don't remember.
16:00 Calinou SSHD is not a SSD
16:00 lemonlake_ it was years ago
16:00 Calinou WD Black² isn't one either
16:00 Calinou sfan5, doesn't exist in mainstream
16:00 realtinymonster hmm?
16:00 Calinou 1TB at most in mainstream
16:00 sfan5 Calinou: I know that
16:00 Calinou which is pretty big already
16:00 lemonlake_ Oh, it's a SATA
16:00 realtinymonster Calinou: WD Black2 isn't?
16:00 Calinou it's HDD with 128GB SSD in it.
16:00 Calinou it's the first Windrive
16:00 Calinou (SSD only usable on Windows)
16:00 realtinymonster lol
16:00 Krock must get that one.
16:01 sfan5 Calinou: the ssd works on linux too
16:01 Krock ..or not
16:01 Krock (finishing my words, not those from sfan)
16:01 Calinou the SSD part of the WD Black²? are yo usure?
16:01 sfan5 yes
16:01 Calinou at launch day it didn't
16:07 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=9&amp;t=9253&amp;p=142916#p142916 → this post is too damn right
16:07 Calinou 100% smartwatch approved
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16:17 lemonlake_ brb
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16:21 rubenwardy Hi all!
16:21 realtinymonster hi
16:24 * rubenwardy has finally made the list! http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog
16:25 realtinymonster so exciting!
16:25 realtinymonster good job!
16:28 Vazon Congratz!
16:32 Megaf_ anyone know how to solve this?
16:32 Megaf_ "xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display 0 "
16:32 Megaf_ it's an intel gma hd 3000
16:32 Megaf_ with Linux mint
16:35 lemonlake_ Grats rubenwardy!
16:36 rubenwardy (two bugs fixed in quick successon in NBE)
16:37 realtinymonster "just think, we make more commits to moontest in a few"
16:37 realtinymonster weeks than the others make to minetest_game in a few
16:37 realtinymonster months"
16:37 realtinymonster - #moontest
16:37 Krock why are mapblocks 16x16x16 while mapgen blocks are about 80x80x80?
16:38 lemonlake_ 5x5x5 mapblocks
16:38 Krock ah okay
16:39 Calinou mapgen blocks are 80 × 80 × 80? TIL
16:39 Krock they are.
16:39 rubenwardy Please bug find! NBE: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=2840
16:40 rubenwardy Calinou: can you try and build the latest version, to see if you get the same problem?
16:41 Krock #chunksize = 5 <-- possibly is that the 5x5x5 factor
16:43 realtinymonster they have GPL and LGPL and BSD and MIT licences, but no CC BY-SA 2.0
16:43 realtinymonster and they even have cc0
16:43 realtinymonster ^github
16:43 * realtinymonster headdesks
16:44 Calinou CC licenses (except CC0) are GPL incompatible, don't use for software
16:44 * Calinou shakes glass of wine
16:44 realtinymonster ok
16:44 realtinymonster hmm
16:44 Calinou they are also not intended for software anyway
16:44 realtinymonster what should I use for purely textures?
16:44 Calinou CC0, CC BY, CC BY-SA…
16:44 Calinou the CC licenses are fine for art
16:44 Calinou (this includes writings or documentation)
16:45 realtinymonster can you GPL art?
16:45 Krock WTFPL
16:45 realtinymonster ^CC0
16:45 Krock WTFPL sounds nicer
16:45 realtinymonster lol
16:45 Calinou yes you can
16:45 Calinou not recommended, but it can be done just fine
16:45 Calinou (GPL is intended for software)
16:45 lemonlake_ omfg finally
16:45 Calinou Krock, WTFPL is a bad license
16:45 realtinymonster the unlicence sounds even cooler
16:45 lemonlake_ i actually have some video drivers now
16:45 realtinymonster lol
16:45 Calinou no warranty disclaimer, bad language
16:46 Calinou use CC0 or Unlicense instead
16:46 Krock <Calinou>CC licenses (except CC0) are GPL incompatible, don't use for software
16:46 Krock why always GPL?
16:46 realtinymonster i have never heard of the unlicence until just now
16:46 Krock wtf, every license if good
16:46 Krock *is
16:46 lemonlake_ i like wtfpl
16:46 Calinou GPL incompatibility is gratuitous trouble
16:46 lemonlake_ why
16:46 Krock trouble with...?
16:46 Calinou if you merge stuff?
16:46 kaeza GPL is not the center of the universe
16:46 lemonlake_ ^
16:46 realtinymonster GPL is incompatible with real life
16:47 Calinou there are other GNU licenses
16:47 Krock Merge stuff from a (example) CC0 into a CC0 project? no problem
16:47 Calinou realtinymonster, Minetest is LGPL
16:47 Calinou might not want to play it if you think so
16:47 Krock zlib license is also very nice
16:47 lemonlake_ yeah but if its all completely custom incompatability is no issue
16:47 realtinymonster Calinou: GPL != LGPL :P
16:47 lemonlake_ ^
16:47 Krock ^
16:48 lemonlake_ aight dudes
16:48 * kaeza is on the BSD side of the holy war
16:48 lemonlake_ see year in bit
16:48 lemonlake_ rebooting
16:48 lemonlake_ b;b;b;;b;b;b;;b;;
16:48 * Krock gives lemonlake_ BSoD
16:48 * realtinymonster gives Krock RSoD
16:49 * Krock catches; installs
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16:49 Krock peer, why did you do this?
16:49 LemonLake wut did ah miss
16:49 Krock - lemonlake_ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
16:49 Krock this
16:49 LemonLake peer...
16:49 kaeza Minetest 1.0 is out!!
16:50 LemonLake peer you asshole
16:50 LemonLake is it?
16:50 LemonLake wait what
16:50 Krock lol
16:50 Krock OMG
16:50 Krock really!!
16:50 LemonLake hold on
16:50 Calinou <realtinymonster> Calinou: GPL != LGPL :P
16:50 kaeza yes, in the five seconds you were out, they released it !!
16:50 Krock </ lie >
16:50 LemonLake im confused
16:50 Calinou similar stuff happens
16:50 Calinou but anyway, CC licenses are not made for software
16:50 LemonLake that was 5 seconds?
16:50 LemonLake jesus, my pc doesnt boot that fast
16:50 Krock WTFPL is perfect for software
16:50 LemonLake i love wtfpl
16:51 Krock +1
16:51 * sfan5 meows at Krock
16:51 * Krock meows at sfan5
16:51 * Krock does what kittens do when they get stroked ... RRRRrrrRRRRR
16:52 * Krock walks to LemonLake's foot
16:52 Krock RRRRrrrRRRRR
16:52 realtinymonster lol
16:52 * LemonLake initally is confused then realise that there's a fucking cat on his foot
16:52 realtinymonster lol
16:52 rubenwardy Why is the cat fucking your foot?
16:52 LemonLake no
16:52 sfan5 ^
16:52 CraigyDavi lol
16:52 LemonLake the cat is fucking itself
16:52 * Krock isn't fucking
16:52 realtinymonster lol
16:52 realtinymonster was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
16:52 Krock lol
16:52 LemonLake owned
16:52 CraigyDavi lol
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16:53 Krock haha
16:53 rubenwardy Oh, this is irrating
16:53 LemonLake you
16:53 LemonLake just
16:53 LemonLake got
16:53 LemonLake owned
16:53 * sfan5 meows at rubenwardy
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16:53 * Krock points at realtinymonster and laughts
16:53 rubenwardy This is impossible to find: https://github.com/rubenwar​dy/NodeBoxEditor/issues/27
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16:54 LemonLake Most likely to do with menubars
16:54 Krock compiling bug? </not helpful>
16:54 rubenwardy no, it is not
16:54 nman3600 hi
16:54 rubenwardy LemonLake
16:54 rubenwardy I have singled that out
16:54 LemonLake Oh.
16:54 LemonLake Just offset it 15 pixels?
16:54 sfan5 huh?
16:55 rubenwardy It changes depending on screen size
16:55 LemonLake oh...
16:55 LemonLake im stumped then
16:55 sfan5 huh??
16:55 Krock set offset to sreen size + 15
16:55 sfan5 huh???
16:55 Krock s/+/*
16:55 LemonLake holy shit krock no
16:56 Krock holy cow! yes
16:56 LemonLake let's assume the screen size is 1920 x 1080
16:56 LemonLake *15
16:56 rubenwardy I mean size of window :P
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16:56 sfan5 huh????
16:56 LemonLake 28800 x 16200
16:56 LemonLake that's the offset
16:56 rubenwardy sfan5: This is impossible to find: https://github.com/rubenwar​dy/NodeBoxEditor/issues/27
16:56 sfan5 someome please tell me wher this came from https://cdn.mediacru.sh/gjbEsYJTG-N3.png
16:56 Krock LemonLake, know pseudocode?
16:57 sfan5 why do I have this on my HDD
16:57 sfan5 where did it come from
16:57 sfan5 I don't even know
16:57 LemonLake Krock, yes I do, why?
16:57 sfan5 someone
16:57 Krock it inserts something into a MySQL database
16:57 rubenwardy It is something to do with 2d points on the screen to 3d positions, and 3d positions to 2d points. I think
16:58 Krock LemonLake, I used it be4
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16:58 Mikerhinos hi
16:58 LemonLake That's just a sql table.
16:58 sfan5 Krock: I'm not that dumb
16:58 sfan5 LemonLake: yeah, I'm wondering where this came from
16:58 LemonLake It inserts entities.
16:58 LemonLake Oh.
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16:58 LemonLake There's some pure lua entity thing, maybe that?
16:59 Krock sfan5, exported it from somewhere?
16:59 sfan5 in the same folder there is also a zombie wave mod coded for the mobs mod api
16:59 sfan5 simple mobs*
16:59 microplum Because I said so.
16:59 reactor /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lintl
16:59 sfan5 Krock: yes, but I dunno from where
16:59 * Krock isn't sure if 'tiny' < 'micro'
16:59 reactor But libintl is in /usr/local/lib!
16:59 LemonLake Micro is smaller than tiny.
16:59 sfan5 reactor: tried -L/usr/local/lib?
17:00 reactor Yeah.
17:01 Mikerhinos found a huuuuuge lava cave in Minetest Carbone with water flows everywhere, creating the biggest obsidian source I've ever seen lol https://mediacru.sh/9-iY8b04SqDd
17:01 LemonLake WHOA
17:01 LemonLake that's so flippin cool
17:01 reactor If you mean LDFLAGS
17:01 reactor sfan5: or should I use it with cmake?
17:02 LemonLake wait what
17:02 LemonLake omg
17:02 LemonLake i dont think sublime text saved properly
17:02 LemonLake o no
17:02 sfan5 reactor: no, ldflags
17:02 LemonLake oh nevermind i just didnt read my code right
17:02 reactor just LDFLAGS env?
17:03 Krock Mikerhinos, smaaaaal
17:03 Krock *tiny
17:04 Krock Mikerhinos, http://i.imgur.com/cbJFFly.png http://i.imgur.com/x2JYPYb.png
17:04 Mikerhinos Krock: that's the biggest that I found since I play Minetest lol
17:04 sfan5 reactor: -DCMAKE_LINKING_FLAGS or something like that, you can find the exact var in the GUI with advanced mode enabled
17:05 Mikerhinos Krock: not sure that yours is bigger (the cave, lol)
17:05 Krock Mikerhinos, you can force them to get bigger
17:05 Krock I could crate a XXXXL cave..
17:05 Mikerhinos yes but I'm with default parameters
17:06 Krock Mikerhinos, check out the tiny lava caves in my lua mapgen :P
17:07 Mikerhinos don't know if Calinou changed anything, because it's from Carbone
17:08 Krock Mikerhinos, all default-changes here: https://github.com/Calinou/car​bone/blob/master/minetest.conf
17:10 Mikerhinos nothing special with the caves, I guess I was lucky lol up on surface there are trees and sand, it's a small paradise lol (and almost at default spawn area 0,0,0)
17:13 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/source/491e7​61feaf911139e30ecc2b3a30f45f3425018:minetest.conf
17:13 Calinou actually
17:14 Calinou cave generation is very similar, but liquid springs and air springs will generate
17:14 Calinou air springs are 10 × 10 × 10 at most
17:14 Calinou they appear deep
17:14 Calinou the lava lakes on the screenshot can appear in minetest_next too
17:14 LemonLake ^
17:16 realtinymonster who want's to see an ugly gravel texture?
17:16 LemonLake me me me
17:17 realtinymonster LemonLake: zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gravel.png
17:18 LemonLake its literally just noise
17:18 realtinymonster lol
17:18 realtinymonster its actually not computer generated
17:19 realtinymonster what can I say, I suck at drawing some things
17:19 Calinou you don't generate most textures with noise only
17:19 Calinou realtinymonster, see Carbone's gravel ;)
17:20 rubenwardy !title https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/co​mmit/be90ff4257c3c9c73fc4ae03e4ee5a3e5fd11dd5
17:20 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Temporary fix for top right viewport · be90ff4 · rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor · GitHub
17:20 rubenwardy LemonLake :(
17:20 LemonLake whats up
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17:21 realtinymonster Calinou: :(
17:21 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/sour​ce/491e761feaf911139e30ecc2b3a30f45f342501​8:mods/default/textures/default_gravel.png
17:21 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/raw​/491e761feaf911139e30ecc2b3a30f45f3425018​:mods/default/textures/default_gravel.png → lol, it opens it directly
17:21 Calinou binary format
17:22 realtinymonster all i have to work with is shitty MS Paint
17:22 LemonLake Try paint.net
17:22 LemonLake Or gimp
17:22 realtinymonster nope
17:22 LemonLake I use photoshop doe
17:22 realtinymonster and noope
17:22 realtinymonster and nope
17:22 Calinou GIMP!
17:22 LemonLake nope nope nope?
17:22 Calinou or Aseprite
17:22 realtinymonster yes
17:22 LemonLake did you even try them?
17:22 realtinymonster nope
17:22 cisoun +1 for gimp
17:22 realtinymonster yeah i have
17:22 LemonLake why nope
17:22 Krock +1 for PDN
17:23 realtinymonster beacause this is a no-install computer :/
17:23 LemonLake pdn is my favourite free photo editor
17:23 LemonLake well, image editor
17:23 LemonLake a no-install computer?
17:23 LemonLake what the hell is that?
17:23 realtinymonster yep
17:23 Krock (doesn't install computers)
17:23 realtinymonster you can't install anything
17:23 LemonLake why that
17:23 realtinymonster its a bug
17:23 cisoun Chuck Norris style : write a PNG file with vim.
17:23 LemonLake 'a bug'
17:24 LemonLake that is the biggest piece of invalid information i have ever heard
17:24 rubenwardy It is a feature!
17:24 Krock not a bug, it's a HUGE fail
17:24 LemonLake ^
17:24 realtinymonster lol
17:24 LemonLake a few suggestions:
17:24 LemonLake understand how computers actually work
17:24 LemonLake check your user account settings
17:24 Krock like: 010010000001001101
17:24 LemonLake dont use the library computer
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17:25 realtinymonster LemonLake: I know how to use a computer, I have, the admin account disappeared, this is my home computer
17:25 realtinymonster Krock: lol
17:25 LemonLake in which case, that's not a bug
17:25 LemonLake you just dont have any permissions to install
17:25 LemonLake open cmd
17:26 realtinymonster ok...
17:26 LemonLake run it as an admin
17:26 Krock realtinymonster, start in safe mode and make it working again..
17:26 LemonLake (type cmd into search, right click then run as admin)
17:26 rubenwardy try googling for answers
17:26 LemonLake actually yeah
17:26 realtinymonster well
17:26 LemonLake launch in safe mode with command prompt
17:26 LemonLake then do net user administrator /active:yes
17:26 rubenwardy "I can't log into my admin account <operating system name>
17:26 Krock is it even a Win computer?
17:26 realtinymonster when the UAC comes up it says that it couldn't find any admins
17:27 realtinymonster Krock: yes, you idiot
17:27 LemonLake WOAH WOAH WOAH
17:27 LemonLake that was uncalled for!
17:27 Krock thx for the compliment
17:27 realtinymonster Krock: any time :D
17:27 LemonLake how the flying fuck did you manage to lose your admin account
17:27 Krock realtinymonster, plz repeat it 5 times again :D
17:28 LemonLake what kind of porn subscription did you download to get that
17:28 realtinymonster lol
17:28 Krock LemonLake, tihnk of the kids here
17:28 LemonLake shhh
17:28 Krock (or FBI agentss)
17:28 realtinymonster lol
17:28 LemonLake go to sleep kids
17:28 realtinymonster including me?
17:28 Krock kids are actually FBI agents
17:28 LemonLake indeed
17:28 LemonLake yes you too realtiny
17:28 realtinymonster i could be concidered a 'kid'
17:29 LemonLake how that
17:29 LemonLake http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/win​dows-vista/enable-the-hidden-admin​istrator-account-on-windows-vista/
17:29 LemonLake first result in google
17:29 realtinymonster *windows 7
17:29 realtinymonster :P
17:29 LemonLake yeah, its for windows 7.
17:29 LemonLake it's exactly the same.
17:29 realtinymonster its not
17:29 LemonLake it also has windows 8 instructions.
17:29 LemonLake did you even read it
17:29 realtinymonster meh
17:30 realtinymonster why post it under vista!
17:30 Krock #windowsXPforthewin
17:30 LemonLake "Enable the (Hidden) Administrator Account on Windows 7, 8, or Vista"
17:30 * rubenwardy might play SH1
17:30 realtinymonster vista shucks
17:30 LemonLake because they edited the post
17:30 Calinou shit 1
17:30 LemonLake so they dont have to fucking rewrite it
17:30 LemonLake L O G I C
17:30 Krock Calinou, +1
17:30 realtinymonster LemonLake: lol
17:30 LemonLake final suggestion: get linux
17:30 realtinymonster gaghaghahgahgahghaghaghahghaghaghahgahghaghahgahg
17:30 LemonLake linux saves lives
17:30 realtinymonster Linux breaks computers
17:30 * Krock slaps LemonLake
17:30 LemonLake lol no
17:31 * Krock tabs realtinymonster
17:31 LemonLake since when does linux break computers
17:31 realtinymonster i've been tabbed?
17:31 * PenguinDad slaps Krock and realtinymonster
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17:31 realtinymonster LemonLake: ever since they could go out of date
17:31 LemonLake umm what
17:31 * Krock roundhousekicks PenguinDad
17:31 realtinymonster Krock: Chuck Norris!
17:31 Krock ^^
17:32 * Jordach BFGs Krock
17:32 Krock *BFD?
17:32 realtinymonster Jordach: WOOO Doom!
17:32 PenguinDad Krock: Big Fucking Gun (Doom FTW)
17:32 kaeza <realtinymonster> Linux breaks computers <-- and Windows doesn't </sarcasm>
17:32 realtinymonster lol
17:32 Krock doom? okay, it's google time
17:32 realtinymonster its an old video game
17:32 kaeza :|
17:33 kaeza >doesn't know Doom
17:33 realtinymonster lol
17:33 kaeza Krock, just WTF
17:33 LemonLake >doesnt give ten shits
17:33 LemonLake realtinymonster
17:33 Krock kaeza, why wtf?
17:33 LemonLake <realtinymonster> LemonLake: ever since they could go out of date
17:33 LemonLake please clarify
17:33 Krock I don't know doom - that's true
17:33 realtinymonster >doesnt give one hundred shits
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17:34 realtinymonster LemonLake: my computer is old
17:34 LemonLake that may be your issue
17:34 LemonLake but at least try to solve the issue than being stubborn, insulting and ignorant
17:34 LemonLake https://www.google.com/search?q=​windows+7+admin+account+is+gone
17:34 kaeza ^
17:34 LemonLake here's a google search.
17:34 LemonLake have fun.
17:34 realtinymonster ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
17:34 Krock LemonLake, wrong usage
17:34 realtinymonster its Google!
17:35 LemonLake 'wrong usage'
17:35 Krock http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windo​ws+7+admin+account+is+gone
17:35 Krock ^
17:35 LemonLake i was lazy to go to it
17:35 LemonLake :P
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17:35 realtinymonster Nobody in their right mind uses google anymore
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17:35 john_minetest Hello everypony.
17:35 Calinou ^
17:36 Krock yup. I use bing. M$ for the win
17:36 * Calinou puts john_minetest on Princess Lua
17:36 LemonLake realtinymonster
17:36 john_minetest ixquick/startpage/metager.de ftw
17:36 Calinou </pun>
17:36 LemonLake I'm sure you can replace 'google' with a search engine of your choice.
17:36 rubenwardy I use duckduckgo, and then do !g
17:36 LemonLake It's not that difficult.
17:36 rubenwardy Jokes
17:36 LemonLake Infact, it's pretty simple.
17:36 kaeza Krock, there's also http://www.giyf.com/
17:36 LemonLake Want me to give you super detailed instructions?
17:36 Krock kaeza, true :)
17:37 realtinymonster LemonLake: nope
17:37 john_minetest The only google service that is kinda essential, is youtube. I am slowly switching to watch videos on vimeo.
17:37 LemonLake Then use a search engine. It's not hard to find a solution there.
17:37 realtinymonster What i should really like is for you to stop pestering me
17:37 LemonLake Okay then.
17:37 Krock kaeza, but it misses a moving cursor to show how to google.
17:37 kaeza Krock, but it has >Someone thinks you're too lazy to use Google before asking a question. Now someone is tired of answering stupid questions and sent you a link to this site to point out that you can easily find the answer yourself. Please do so.
17:38 Calinou Vimeo isn't any better
17:38 Calinou it tells people to use Flash daily
17:38 LemonLake ^
17:38 rubenwardy New build of the node box editor for windows, with some bugs fixed: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=142976#p142976
17:38 Calinou you can use youtube-dl, or even the thing that lets you use playlists in your terminal
17:38 john_minetest Calinou: Lolwut? I am using vimeo without flash.
17:38 Krock kaeza, okay, both are good.
17:38 LemonLake hell yeah @rubenwardy
17:38 LemonLake I may be using the NBE a lot later on in Ace of Picks when I start adding nodes
17:38 john_minetest Calinou: Vimeo runs perfectly without flash. One reason why I like it over yt.
17:39 LemonLake Right now I'm still working on death messages
17:39 Calinou the embedded videos will all say “<hipster way of saying “snap”> can't be played with your setup”
17:39 Calinou YouTube videos show up properly when embedded
17:39 Calinou Vimeo's don't
17:39 john_minetest ???
17:39 LemonLake ^
17:39 LemonLake Well, ^@calinou
17:39 reactor What's the deal with inventory HUD suddenly disappearing?!
17:39 john_minetest Calinou: I never had any problem with embedded vimeo.
17:39 Krock interesting, I can't use vimeo without flashplayer
17:39 john_minetest Calinou: But youtube still wants flash
17:39 Calinou it never worked for me, unlike YouTube
17:39 Calinou (Firefox 29, no Flash installed)
17:40 Calinou maybe it dislikes my AdBlock or /etc/hosts file
17:40 john_minetest Mozilla Firefox 29.0.1, no flash installed.
17:40 john_minetest I got no adblock
17:40 john_minetest I got noscript and requestpolicy for that.
17:40 PenguinDad It works perfectly for me (Firefox 32, no Flash, Adblock Edge)
17:40 realtinymonster hehe I have gotten in front!
17:41 LemonLake ^?
17:41 realtinymonster damn
17:41 realtinymonster PenguinDad did too
17:41 realtinymonster LemonLake: Firefox 32
17:42 LemonLake ahh
17:42 john_minetest PenguinDad: Firefox 30 is planned for 10th of June 2014
17:42 john_minetest 32 is not out yet.
17:42 realtinymonster john_minetest: ever heard of beta and nightly?
17:42 realtinymonster :P
17:42 LemonLake ^
17:42 john_minetest o_O
17:43 LemonLake I think they're actually on 33 in a few days/weeks
17:43 realtinymonster :O
17:43 john_minetest Firefox 30 not out yet but nightly is on 32?
17:43 LemonLake No guarantee but I heard it somewhere
17:43 LemonLake Yes, john_minetest
17:43 realtinymonster I feel left behind....
17:43 john_minetest Firefox is getting worse and worse.
17:43 LemonLake I remember back when it was at firefox 3 for like years
17:43 Calinou better and better*
17:44 LemonLake suddenly, 'Download now! Firefox 60385!'
17:44 Calinou it's not bad to have such versioning
17:44 realtinymonster lol
17:44 Calinou I don't understand the (IMO unwarranted) hate for it
17:44 john_minetest If firefox wouldn't have so much plugin support, I would switch to some other browser with PROPER versioning. Like lynx.
17:44 Calinou way better than confusing “.10“ like “3.10”
17:44 Calinou GNOME 2.32 anyone? :p
17:44 LemonLake ^
17:44 john_minetest Lol... GNOME is so 1997
17:45 LemonLake God damn my depressed autistic mind...
17:45 Calinou GNOME 2 is
17:45 realtinymonster john_minetest: lol
17:45 Calinou lol, I kill guy in Enemy Territory
17:45 realtinymonster KDE must be 1897 :P
17:45 john_minetest Woah, I didn't look it up and I said the right date.
17:45 Calinou he kills me 1 minute later, walks on me, switches to pistol and finishes me
17:46 LemonLake lol owned
17:46 john_minetest KDE is so 1996.
17:47 john_minetest KDE 1.0 looks better than gnome 3.0.
17:47 john_minetest http://upload.wikimedia.org/wik​ipedia/commons/d/d9/KDE_1.0.png
17:47 LemonLake OMFG
17:47 john_minetest http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikip​edia/commons/5/51/GNOME_3.10.png
17:47 realtinymonster haha
17:48 LemonLake finally
17:48 LemonLake KDE does look better than gnome 3.0
17:48 john_minetest Well, actually GNOME 3.10 and KDE 1.0 look quite similar.
17:48 john_minetest Just that KDE seems much cleaner.
17:48 john_minetest Lol.
17:48 realtinymonster KDE today looks pretty kewl
17:49 john_minetest KDE is a bit bloated imo. You have to install a custom lib to play KDE games.
17:49 john_minetest i3/dwm ftw.
17:49 LemonLake It looks a lot like aero
17:49 john_minetest KDE today is much cooler than windows desktop.
17:49 realtinymonster LemonLake: I believe thats the point...
17:49 john_minetest KDE has sparkles.
17:49 realtinymonster +!
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17:49 realtinymonster +1
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17:50 Calinou KDE has Twilight Sparkle
17:50 * Calinou runs
17:50 nman3600 hi
17:50 nman3600 https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9334
17:50 Calinou hi nman3600
17:50 realtinymonster who here lives in the netherlands?
17:50 nman3600 1.0 of my mod is now released!
17:50 LemonLake New version nman3600?
17:50 LemonLake oh neat
17:50 john_minetest Calinou: You did it wrong. You were running.
17:50 * john_minetest gallops away
17:50 LemonLake I hope you didn't remove my carpet for loop.
17:50 * realtinymonster slaps Calinou in the back of the head with a frying pan
17:50 * Krock slaps nman3600: I don't have AD block on IRC
17:50 PenguinDad I have only seen Rainbow Dash for KDE
17:50 nman3600 LemonLake nope
17:50 * PenguinDad gallops away
17:51 nman3600 Krock none of us do
17:51 nman3600 i think
17:51 LemonLake Ad block on IRC?
17:51 nman3600 idk
17:51 LemonLake I think he was making a joke?
17:51 john_minetest PenguinDad: Why not "PenguinDad is flying away"
17:51 LemonLake Or * PenguinDad is like 'fuck this shit'
17:51 john_minetest Since you are a penguin and you got wings ;)
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17:52 LemonLake nman3600; are the item frames part of your mod?
17:52 PenguinDad LemonLake: which shit?
17:52 LemonLake All of the shit
17:52 nman3600 LemonLake no it's a mod
17:52 LemonLake I'm aware.
17:52 LemonLake Just checking.
17:54 realtinymonster LemonLake: lol
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17:54 LemonLake ^^
17:54 LemonLake what the flying fuck
17:54 realtinymonster lol
17:55 * LemonLake slaps |whiskers76| so hard that plane
17:55 realtinymonster hmh
17:55 * sfan5 meows at |whiskers76|
17:55 |whiskers76| sorry
17:55 realtinymonster Khahahhahahahahahahaha
17:55 |whiskers76| trying to keep idiots from being imposters
17:56 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((((((((((((((((((-<
17:56 LemonLake o.o?
17:56 |whiskers76| *cough* nyuszika7h *cough*
17:56 * sfan5 noms it
17:56 * realtinymonster meows at C418's cat
17:56 john_minetest nyuszika7h? Hey, werewolf!
17:56 nyuszika7h not now
17:56 Calinou C418's encoded cat
17:56 LemonLake What encoding?
17:56 realtinymonster lol
17:56 nyuszika7h whiskers75: you do realize you can just tell freenode staff if it gets bad enough that whoever the imposter is really doesn't want to stop
17:56 nyuszika7h they don't like imposter nicks anyway
17:56 whiskers75 he's in here?
17:57 LemonLake Or just register your nickname with nickserv
17:57 LemonLake ?
17:57 whiskers75 LemonLake: ಠ_ಠ
17:57 Calinou nyuszika7h, suddenly, Chiyo
17:57 nman3600 ó.ó
17:57 whiskers75 that's so stupid, I can't even reply.
17:57 realtinymonster lol
17:57 LemonLake I am stupid, thanks.
17:57 LemonLake Brain damage is fun!
17:57 whiskers75 It is registered ಠ_ಠ
17:57 LemonLake Aiight.
17:57 whiskers75 I'm just grouping all the clone nicks
17:57 nyuszika7h whiskers75: have fun
17:57 realtinymonster suddenly, LDF 9001
17:57 nyuszika7h the limit is 20
17:57 LemonLake ohh I see.,
17:57 nyuszika7h that's a waste of space
17:58 whiskers75 [nyuszika7h intensifies]
17:58 nyuszika7h you can always tell freenode staff if whoever does it *really* doesn't want to stop. not that you should instantly tell them if I ever change my nick to something resembling yours, of course, because we're friends, right?
17:58 whiskers75 "friends"
17:58 realtinymonster hehe
17:58 LemonLake deep
17:58 Krock nman3600, changelog missing
17:58 realtinymonster de_eb
17:58 LemonLake plot twist: you two are more than friends
17:58 whiskers75 I'd call you somewhere in the middle with sfan5 and octocodercat (a psycho codercat who's nice sometimes)
17:59 Krock (@ newestpost)
17:59 nman3600 Krock i'll add that
17:59 whiskers75 s/with/between/
17:59 Krock nman3600, servercrash btw
17:59 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5
17:59 LemonLake Changelog is unnecessary if there's git, right?
17:59 nman3600 i was just thinking that i'm missing something
17:59 nman3600 yeah i noticed Krock i crashed
17:59 Calinou LemonLake, it makes it less necessary, but it's still good to have one
17:59 * sfan5 meows at Krock
17:59 Calinou for any significant project
18:00 Calinou (may be unneeded for just a Minetest mod or game)
18:00 * Krock meows at sfan5
18:00 LemonLake Actually, yeah yeah.
18:00 * sfan5 purrs at Krock
18:00 LemonLake That reminds me, I should probably tell Florian to changelog breadhunter...
18:00 * Krock acts like a mirror.
18:00 * Krock purrs at sfan5
18:00 Calinou I read “* Krock acts like a minor.”
18:00 Calinou LemonLake, breadhunder? Florian?
18:00 Calinou hunter*
18:01 LemonLake Sorry, that was directed mainly at nman
18:01 Krock Calinou, much best english?
18:01 LemonLake Florian is me mate, Bread Hunter is a game we're developing in C++
18:01 LemonLake He's the lead developer. I do more code, artwork, concepts and music.
18:01 Calinou mhm
18:01 Calinou you also made MLP game as far as I remember :D
18:01 LemonLake And nman is my reminder board.
18:01 nman3600 Krock added changelog spoiler
18:01 LemonLake Fall of Equestria?
18:02 Krock nman3600, ok.
18:02 LemonLake Dude, that's one FINE memory you have!
18:02 realtinymonster hehe
18:02 LemonLake I should speak to Lleeron if he wants to reboot that.
18:02 nman3600 wait how does Calinout know that
18:02 nman3600 Calinou*
18:02 LemonLake No idea. Probably a friend of Lleeron.
18:02 nman3600 mayve
18:03 Calinou <LemonLake> Dude, that's one FINE memory you have!
18:03 nman3600 ugh my "P" key on my keyboard got stuck again :(
18:03 Calinou GitHub does it for me
18:03 LemonLake That was on Github?
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18:03 Calinou yep
18:03 LemonLake Oh, that's a REALLY old version
18:03 LemonLake Back when I didn't actually know how to code properly
18:03 LemonLake Oh my god that code is shit as fuck
18:03 Calinou I laughed at “unsupported OS” code
18:03 LemonLake Ew ew ew
18:03 LemonLake Don't look at it
18:04 LemonLake Don't look at it!
18:04 LemonLake THIS MUST BE REMOVED
18:04 realtinymonster lol
18:04 Calinou https://github.com/DrawingDrewfly/mlpgame
18:04 realtinymonster i shal fork!
18:04 Calinou consider putting a license up
18:04 LemonLake Don't do that, realtinymonster
18:04 LemonLake I would I could login to my git.
18:04 john_minetest ¬_¬ Java...
18:04 kaeza what you do in the internet, stays in the internet
18:04 LemonLake I hate java now, dw.
18:04 Calinou Java is fine mostly, but I have slight aversion to it, due to the fact the Windows installer recommends adware
18:04 kaeza Java <3
18:05 realtinymonster hhmm
18:05 Krock C# <3
18:05 realtinymonster noooooooooooooooooooooo
18:05 kaeza lol C#
18:05 realtinymonster it got delete!
18:05 Calinou also lol “Mane.java”
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18:05 LemonLake Yeah lol
18:05 LemonLake Calinou, refresh on that repo please
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18:06 Calinou yeah, it got removed
18:06 Calinou it was banished to the moon
18:06 * kaeza slaps Krock with Python
18:06 * Calinou gallops away
18:06 LemonLake >:)
18:06 * Krock slaps kaeza with batch
18:06 LemonLake That was the final backup of the game's files.
18:06 LemonLake Mauhahaha
18:06 * kaeza slaps Krock with brainfuck
18:06 Krock AAGH
18:07 kaeza :D
18:07 Calinou LemonLake, you don't have any cloned version?
18:07 * kaeza wins
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18:07 Krock revived
18:07 LemonLake I think I have three backups on external hard drives, actually
18:07 Calinou wine kaeza.exe
18:07 LemonLake And no, my hard drive has been wiped entirely four times since the last commit to that project
18:09 kaeza Calinou, I prefer beer
18:09 * kaeza gallops away
18:09 LemonLake dat comeback
18:09 LemonLake brb gonna see niece
18:19 LemonLake Yo
18:29 john_minetest http://vimeo.com/channels/staffpicks/91594427
18:31 realtinymonster lol
18:31 realtinymonster i be back
18:34 realtinymonster <Calinou> wine kaeza.exe <kaeza> Calinou, I prefer beer
18:35 realtinymonster hehe
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18:51 realtinymonster Piggybear87: more computer problems?
18:51 Piggybear87 Huh?
18:53 realtinymonster the last time your were here you were complaining about a pentium or smth
18:54 LemonLake Doesn't mean it'll be the same this time
18:54 realtinymonster true
18:55 LemonLake Suddenly I feel extremely nauseous
18:56 Piggybear87 No, I auto connect to #minetest, #minetest-dev and #mosstest
18:56 realtinymonster Suddenly, Pineapples
18:56 realtinymonster ah ok
18:56 LemonLake Ditto
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18:58 Piggybear87 Also, according to sfan5, my graphics card is too slow for minetest. I get black sky and no inventory textures.
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18:58 realtinymonster ah
18:58 LemonLake What's your Open GL version?
18:58 Piggybear87 Yup.
18:58 LemonLake It should say in the Minetest titlebar?
18:58 Piggybear87 1.3
18:58 realtinymonster did you try rendering in DX8 or 9?
18:58 LemonLake There's your issue.
18:58 realtinymonster LemonLake: not really
18:58 LemonLake Most OpenGL block-based games at LEAST require 1.4
18:58 realtinymonster I run minetest on 1.3 just fine
18:59 realtinymonster *used to
18:59 LemonLake Really? o.o
18:59 Piggybear87 DX8/9 is Windows.
18:59 realtinymonster ah
18:59 realtinymonster software render?
18:59 LemonLake eww
18:59 realtinymonster it sucks, but it works
19:00 realtinymonster it makes water real pretty :P
19:03 LemonLake Whenever I use ipairs, nothing is ever iterated
19:03 jin_xi read pil
19:03 LemonLake pil?
19:04 jin_xi http://www.lua.org/pil/
19:04 LemonLake I have already.
19:04 jin_xi looks like it
19:04 LemonLake Don't you think I would've tried?
19:04 jin_xi only use ipairs for arrays
19:04 LemonLake Order is extremely important here.
19:05 jin_xi maybe try using a reverse table
19:05 LemonLake a wut
19:05 LemonLake Whatever, maybe the error isn't order
19:05 LemonLake Maybe it's something else
19:07 jin_xi http://www.lua.org/pil/4.3.5.html
19:07 LemonLake Don't you think I would've read that?
19:07 LemonLake Oh, I see.
19:07 LemonLake Oh.
19:08 LemonLake <LemonLake> Whatever, maybe the error isn't order
19:08 LemonLake <LemonLake> Maybe it's something else
19:09 Piggybear87 Gonna try mo other vid card. back in a bit.
19:12 nman3600 woah all of a sudden my sproxel just went laggy as hell
19:12 LemonLake why are you using sproxel
19:12 nman3600 i'm just messing around with it
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19:16 realtinymonster so! what are your findings?
19:17 realtinymonster Piggybear87:
19:17 Piggybear87 No-go. Machine wouldn't turn on. It must be bad.
19:17 sfan5 Piggybear87: I say could be too slow
19:17 * sfan5 gives kaeza a beer
19:18 Piggybear87 sfan5, I know. It is, I think. Maybe it's my low ram also...
19:19 * nman3600 strokes sfan5
19:19 LemonLake http://pastebin.com/m3mrxGQr
19:19 LemonLake My intention here is for the current element to be removed, and all the other to move upwards.
19:19 realtinymonster Piggybear87: does it have a built-in gfx card?
19:19 Piggybear87 Yes, a really old one.
19:19 LemonLake Instead, the first time they move DOWN a bit, then they just get removed and are no longer moved up
19:19 LemonLake moved up > > moved*
19:19 * sfan5 meows at nman3600
19:20 realtinymonster Piggybear87: have you tried it?
19:20 realtinymonster its worth a shot
19:21 Piggybear87 Wait, An actual card? No. Integrated, yes.
19:21 realtinymonster yeah
19:21 realtinymonster I know
19:21 realtinymonster tried it?
19:21 Piggybear87 That's what I'm using now. The integrated one.
19:21 realtinymonster hmm
19:21 realtinymonster odd
19:22 Piggybear87 intel corporation 82865g integrated graphics controller
19:22 realtinymonster sfan5: I want a bear too!
19:23 * Piggybear87 needs coffee and will return in < 5 minutes.
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19:25 jin_xi LemonLake: why are not using v in the loop (apart from dumping it)?
19:26 * Piggybear87 is back. COFFEE!!!!
19:26 LemonLake Because I'm stupid, why?
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19:26 Piggybear87 Anyone know how to see when someone was last seen?
19:27 Vazon mhmm i beilive thats a mod
19:27 PenguinDad !seen somename
19:27 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen somename around.
19:27 Vazon or are you talking about on htere?
19:27 PenguinDad ^ Piggybear87
19:27 Piggybear87 !seen us'0gb
19:27 MinetestBot Piggybear87: Sorry, I haven't seen us'0gb around.
19:27 jin_xi moar likely its me being stupid... but it looks strange to me
19:27 Piggybear87 Hmm...
19:28 Piggybear87 !seen Us'0gb
19:28 MinetestBot Piggybear87: Sorry, I haven't seen us'0gb around.
19:28 Piggybear87 !seen us'0Gb
19:28 MinetestBot Piggybear87: Sorry, I haven't seen us'0gb around.
19:29 realtinymonster !seen us`0gb
19:29 MinetestBot realtinymonster: us`0gb was last seen at 2014-05-22 23:32:37 UTC on #minetest
19:29 Piggybear87 Defuq?
19:29 Piggybear87 Whu did it do it for you and not me?
19:29 nman3600 i think it's !up Us'0gb is what you're looking for
19:29 realtinymonster no
19:29 Piggybear87 No, I'm looking for him, not his server.
19:29 nman3600 ok
19:29 realtinymonster because ' and ` are differnt thngs
19:30 nman3600 !seen 0gb
19:30 MinetestBot nman3600: Sorry, I haven't seen 0gb around.
19:30 PenguinDad !down 0gb.us
19:30 Piggybear87 Ah, I see now. They look the same on my screen.
19:30 realtinymonster lol
19:30 nman3600 is it possible to have 2 drawtypes in one node?
19:31 PenguinDad nman3600: not at the moment
19:31 LemonLake We had an excellent discussion about this yesterday.
19:31 Piggybear87 Not that I'm aware of.
19:31 LemonLake It would require extra param types.
19:31 nman3600 :( i wanted to do that
19:31 LemonLake Don't bother trying.
19:31 nman3600 k
19:31 LemonLake It's entirely impossible.
19:33 Piggybear87 !up 0gb.us
19:33 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 seems to be down
19:38 LemonLake Can nobody else help?
19:39 realtinymonster no!
19:39 realtinymonster well maybe..
19:39 realtinymonster whats going on?
19:39 Piggybear87 sfan5, Is there a way to see what version of opengl I have/can support?
19:39 realtinymonster run minetest
19:39 realtinymonster :P
19:40 Piggybear87 Yup. 1.3... oh well.
19:40 Piggybear87 What about a way to tell how high I can support?
19:41 realtinymonster that should be ther highest
19:41 realtinymonster it depends entirely on the gfx card
19:41 realtinymonster if thats the highest it can go, then thats that
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19:42 realtinymonster to get higher oGL, get a new gfx card
19:42 Ner0 Quick question
19:42 Ner0 How do I run the phenny bot on my irc
19:42 realtinymonster wrong chan
19:42 realtinymonster :P
19:42 Ner0 I'm using the one sfan5 has on google
19:42 Ner0 *github
19:42 LemonLake no bots in this channel
19:42 realtinymonster google lol
19:42 Ner0 Yes MinetestBot is the bot
19:43 realtinymonster Ner0, you need python
19:43 Ner0 realtinymonster
19:43 Ner0 ,okay
19:43 Ner0 Download python?
19:43 realtinymonster yus
19:43 LemonLake why do you need it ner0?
19:43 Ner0 and then run it?
19:43 realtinymonster yes
19:43 Ner0 what file do i run?
19:43 Ner0 startup.py?
19:43 Ner0 or server.py?
19:43 LemonLake ner0, why do you need it?
19:43 realtinymonster the file called phenny i think
19:44 Ner0 Theres no file called phenny
19:44 nman3600 i was about to ask a really stupid question but i remembered the answer
19:44 realtinymonster did you download pheny?
19:44 Ner0 the only p is ping.py
19:44 realtinymonster you need phenny too
19:44 rubenwardy bye all
19:44 LemonLake Ner0, can you answer me?
19:44 Ner0 Phenny is a script xD
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19:45 realtinymonster ok then
19:46 nman3600 you should be happy i saved you all from facepalming
19:47 Krock singlenode mapgen lies.
19:47 Krock there are 2 nodes
19:47 LemonLake which are?
19:47 Krock ignore, air
19:47 LemonLake actualy
19:47 LemonLake singlenode as in one node that's actually solid
19:48 realtinymonster *has
19:48 realtinymonster that would be ignore
19:48 Krock papyrus is a node, too.
19:48 CraigyDavi singlenode generates nyancats
19:48 Krock it's not solid
19:48 realtinymonster oh
19:48 realtinymonster lol
19:48 nman3600 Door mat!: http://imgur.com/t6FHCDv
19:48 Piggybear87 Great, now Minetest won't event connet to a serer...
19:49 LemonLake nman, how about you make it fill half of the floor?
19:49 nman3600 whatya mean?
19:49 nman3600 it's covers up a whole node
19:49 LemonLake more doormat shaped
19:50 nman3600 how do i make it more than a nodebox big
19:50 LemonLake what
19:50 nman3600 i want it wider than a node
19:54 LemonLake oh
19:54 LemonLake here is where my minetest chan went
19:55 reactor How come so many players now, and barely one-two people a day in April?
19:55 realtinymonster because summer :P
19:55 reactor What happened? Cracked Minecraft broke again?
19:55 reactor Ah.
19:56 reactor Well I don't see how summer is "freer" than terms. Because projects and such.
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19:57 sfan5 Piggybear87: glxinfo
19:57 Weedy joined #minetest
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19:57 Piggybear87 Huh?
19:58 Piggybear87 Oh. Ok. Lol.
19:59 Piggybear87 It says I have 1.4
20:00 Piggybear87 Anywho. I gotta got to the store. Back in a while.
20:00 john_minetest Hey Piggybear87
20:00 john_minetest Piggybear87: I suddenly lost internet connection yesterday so I couldn't do anything.
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20:10 realtinymonster hi
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20:11 realtinymonster https://github.com/realtin​ymonster/gitpack-minetest , https://github.com/realtin​ymonster/gitpack-minecraft
20:13 Enke Looks neat! I'd contribute, but I'm horrible at texturing... :-(
20:13 realtinymonster meh,its all good
20:14 Enke quite suitable for work?
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20:16 webdesigner97 Hello :)
20:16 realtinymonster hi
20:16 realtinymonster https://github.com/realtin​ymonster/gitpack-minetest , https://github.com/realtin​ymonster/gitpack-minecraft
20:16 CraigyDavi hello webdesigner97
20:17 webdesigner97 lol, what did I find here? Bluetooth? :D https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/f5b791929e035d78af3aff502ca119eac745e91e
20:18 VanessaE hi
20:18 nman3600 hi CraigyDavi and VanessaE
20:19 CraigyDavi Hello nman3600
20:19 nman3600 have you checked out 1.0 of my multitest mod?
20:19 nman3600 oh and CraigyDavi did you want credits for the handle grip texture?
20:19 CraigyDavi Nah
20:19 nman3600 ok
20:19 webdesigner97 hello VanessaE :)
20:20 VanessaE hey hey
20:20 Enke VanessaE: Is Inchranet down for you?
20:20 realtinymonster VanessaE: did you see gitpack?
20:21 Enke realtinymonster: I forked gitpack, just to see if I could do anything with it. I may start work on a few textures.
20:21 realtinymonster cool
20:21 realtinymonster minetest on mc?
20:21 realtinymonster *or
20:21 Enke minetest
20:22 realtinymonster cool
20:23 CraigyDavi Enke: Inchranet is up for me. Try a different server
20:23 Enke Hmm. Horus is down, anyway.
20:23 Enke I'll try Ra
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20:28 VanessaE Enke: inchra is working fine for me; horus might be down, dunno - use isis :)
20:28 VanessaE realtinymonster: not familiar with that
20:28 Enke CraigyDavi: I'm also getting a connection failure for ra.inchra.net as well.
20:28 Enke I'll try isis
20:28 realtinymonster https://github.com/realtin​ymonster/gitpack-minetest , https://github.com/realtin​ymonster/gitpack-minecraft
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20:28 realtinymonster ^ VanessaE
20:29 CraigyDavi Using port 6667, Enke?
20:29 Enke Yep.
20:29 VanessaE inchra might require ssl/sasl
20:29 VanessaE I don't remember
20:29 Enke It worked fine earlier today, and I haven't changed any settings.
20:29 VanessaE port 6697
20:30 CraigyDavi Hmm I'm using isis. Try that one.
20:32 webdesigner97 Do you know this feeling when your Todo list for your mod is empty but you still think you cannot release it?
20:32 Enke 6697, huh?
20:33 Enke Okay, I'm gonna attempt to connect with isis on port 6697, with no SSL. If that doesn't work, I'll turn on SSL for isis.
20:34 VanessaE webdesigner97: yep, I know that feeling, it's like "surely I missed something" :)
20:34 webdesigner97 yes :)
20:34 VanessaE Enke: 6697 + ssl
20:34 webdesigner97 exactly :D
20:34 Enke Okay.
20:34 webdesigner97 What currently blocks me from the next release is https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1338
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20:35 realtinymonster minetest has too many issues
20:35 realtinymonster :P
20:35 webdesigner97 hello cheapie :)
20:35 webdesigner97 haha :D Maybe yes
20:35 cheapie Does anybody know what's wrong with InchraNet? All of the MT servers are connected, but DNS lookups for it are failing from here.
20:35 realtinymonster haha
20:36 realtinymonster Enke is having the same problem
20:36 nman3600 ShadowNinja do you want credits for helping me with some code on my mod?
20:36 cheapie I tried isis, horus, anubis, and ra, as well as not specifying any. It won't work.
20:36 Enke cheapie: I'm currently trying isis.inchra.net, port 6697, with SSL.
20:36 reactor Okay this is strange. Compiled MT with FreeType and Gettext, still can't set language!
20:36 reactor It just ignores my config setting!
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20:37 LemonLake Fixed it.
20:37 LemonLake Hi nman3600
20:37 * cheapie pokes ShadowNinja
20:37 nman3600 Hi LemonLake
20:37 LimePool :P
20:37 Enke is there a command to force a connection attempt?
20:37 LemonLake Damn you RTM :P
20:37 cheapie Enke: dig is coming up with nothing.
20:37 VanessaE LimePool: what kind of issues?
20:38 Enke Hmmm.
20:38 LimePool well, webdesigner97 quoted the 133X issue
20:38 LimePool :P
20:38 LimePool alot
20:38 * cheapie finds a workaround
20:38 webdesigner97 LimePool: What did I quote? :D
20:38 cheapie Point your IRC clients at digitalaudioconcepts.com - that goes straight to isis.
20:39 LimePool https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1338
20:39 LimePool haha
20:39 LimePool why?
20:39 webdesigner97 Why why? It's a problem :D
20:39 Enke cheapie: what port?
20:39 cheapie Enke: Whatever IRC port you normally use.
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20:40 Enke Hang on.
20:40 cheapie Enke: One of the InchraNet servers lives on that box.
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20:40 Enke Bingo!
20:41 Enke Thanks cheapie!
20:42 nman3600 LemonLake, CraigyDavi I've gave you both Credit's in my mod for textures and LemonLake a bit of coding okay?
20:42 kcin darm
20:42 Enke ...And I went through all that crap just to find that ShadowServer wasn't up and Microchip wasn't on! Why do I even bother?
20:42 kcin nman3600: how is Multitest?
20:42 CraigyDavi Thats fine nman3600
20:43 nman3600 kcin fine i just updated it adding carpets and lamps and some other things i think
20:43 LemonLake Chill
20:43 kcin cool
20:43 cheapie Enke: Microchip's on a 1-2 week vacation. He didn't say why.
20:43 llihC har har
20:43 nman3600 CraigyDavi that's good
20:43 Enke Huh. Irony alert.
20:44 LemonLake What do you mean 'didn't say why'?
20:44 LemonLake If you're on vacation, you're on vacation. Simple as.
20:44 llihC lol
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20:45 LemonLake Okay, ^^?
20:45 LemonLake What the actual fuck is up with those name changes
20:45 webdesigner97 gtg, see you :)
20:45 LeeeeeeemonLake :P
20:45 LemonLake Fuck off
20:45 LeeeeeeemonLake ok
20:46 nman3600 lol
20:46 enman3600 :P
20:46 nman3600 FUCK OF
20:46 nman3600 f
20:46 LemonLake Language, Niall.
20:46 nman3600 LOL
20:46 LemonLake :P
20:46 realtinymonster lol
20:47 Enke realtinymonster: 2 things: #1: would you find it odd if the bubbles had some rainbow in them, like solution bubbles? #2: Do you want hearts to be hearts, or something else?
20:47 nman3600 so in v.2.0 of multitest so far i've made door mat and that's it lol
20:47 LemonLake Want an idea, Niall?
20:47 nman3600 yes pls
20:47 LemonLake Add a block that iterates through all surrounding blocks of its type and turns them into a random block over a certain period of time.
20:48 nman3600 like that one minecraft mod?
20:48 LemonLake Of course not.
20:48 nman3600 i might make that a seperat mod
20:48 realtinymonster Hearts should be like olive green rounded sqares, i'm fine with rainbow bubbles
20:48 LemonLake I was joking.
20:48 LemonLake You don't even know what iterate means.
20:48 nman3600 no i don't
20:48 LemonLake I do.
20:48 LemonLake Ha ha.
20:48 realtinymonster I do too, haha
20:48 nman3600 still gotta make the craft recipe for mat
20:48 nman3600 lo
20:48 LemonLake http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+iterate
20:49 Enke realtinymonster: Okay. olive-green rounded squares it is....
20:49 nman3600 so basically repeat
20:49 LemonLake it·er·ate
20:49 LemonLake ˈitəˌrāt/Submit
20:49 LemonLake verb
20:49 LemonLake verb: iterate; 3rd person present: iterates; past tense: iterated; past participle: iterated; gerund or present participle: iterating
20:49 LemonLake 1.
20:49 LemonLake was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
20:49 lmgtfydotcom harhar
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20:49 LemonLake Thanks xchat rofl
20:49 nman3600 lol
20:50 lmgtfydotcom haha!
20:50 nman3600 genius name
20:50 lmgtfydotcom thanks
20:50 nman3600 i love that website
20:50 nman3600 dot should be like this (dot)
20:50 harpnedottk sure
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20:51 realtinymonster lol
20:51 realtinymonster ctrl + z
20:52 LemonLake nman3600, will you still be on at 11?
20:52 nman3600 LemonLake maybe
20:52 Enke realtinymonster: vertical or horizontal olive-green rounded rectangles?
20:52 realtinymonster sqares :P
20:53 realtinymonster #gitpack
20:53 Enke Oops. I'm not on top of my game today.
20:53 Enke Of course, I've never been on top of my game ever.
20:53 nman3600 how do u change name?
20:53 LemonLake WIth /nick
20:53 Enke nman3600: /nick <newname>
20:53 nman3600 k thanks
20:54 multitest heyo
20:54 realtinymonster hi
20:54 {0063namn} ehehe
20:54 multitest lol
20:54 {0063namn} ton lol
20:55 retsnomynitlaer hi {0063namn}
20:55 nman3600 Ha
20:55 nman3600 STOLE YOUR NICK
20:55 retsnomynitlaer :(
20:56 OrangeLake HA
20:56 LemonLake You can't take my nick anyway
20:56 LemonLake It's nickserv'd
20:57 LakeLemon lol
21:01 nman3600 AHH IT DOESN'T WORK :(
21:01 LemonLake what doesn't
21:01 nman3600 the inventory image for this node isn't working
21:02 nman3600 cm'ere if you need to LemonLake
21:02 Enke {0063namn}: I got the heart and the bubble textured. I'm gonna take 'em for a spin. I'll get back to you with how I think they look.
21:02 LemonLake I'm fine thanks
21:02 LemonLake Working with sapier on this
21:03 {0063namn} Hungarian!
21:03 {0063namn} Enke: sounds good
21:03 reactor So, no idea?
21:03 nman3600 31 nodes in my mod :)
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21:04 reactor Compiled with FreeType and Gettext, picked own fonts, set LANG properly -- still no Russian.
21:04 realtinymonster over 450 lines of code to do one thing in my code, nman3600 :P
21:04 realtinymonster well, not mine
21:04 nman3600 lol
21:04 realtinymonster WindHero's
21:04 realtinymonster it builds a space module at spawn
21:04 nman3600 inventory_image = {"multitest_door_mat.png"}, this is correct right?
21:04 LemonLake I probably have at least three thousand lines of code in this entire project
21:05 LemonLake Looks fine to me nman3600
21:05 nman3600 it doesn't work ingame
21:05 Enke The bubbles look like bubbles, the hearts, not so much...
21:05 Enke They are flat olive squares (with rounded edges)
21:05 realtinymonster meh, thats the point!
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21:06 realtinymonster its funnylooking
21:06 Enke I'm still gonna touch 'em up a bit.
21:06 realtinymonster ok
21:06 realtinymonster sounds good
21:06 VanessaE nman3600: for inventory images, no {braces}
21:06 Enke BTW, dirt and grass textures are amazing!
21:06 VanessaE inventory_image = "multitest_door_mat.png",
21:07 nman3600 ohk thanks!
21:07 realtinymonster Enke: credit goes to Amaz for those :D
21:07 VanessaE (same for the wield image)
21:07 realtinymonster Enke: #gitpack
21:08 Enke Don't have Twitter.
21:08 realtinymonster lol
21:08 realtinymonster join the channel
21:08 realtinymonster its a channel
21:08 Enke Oh, oops.
21:08 realtinymonster :P
21:08 khonkhortisan VanessaE, I forgot I made that issue
21:09 VanessaE khonkhortisan: heh, a bit late in responding :)
21:09 khonkhortisan Yeah, I was away
21:09 VanessaE s'ok
21:11 nman3600 Yeah VannesaE i noticed i needed to add a wield image on a few of them thanks!
21:12 VanessaE nman3600: most of the time you shouldn't need to add an inventory image or wield image
21:12 VanessaE try to let the engine generate one for you from the rendered node
21:12 nman3600 k
21:13 nman3600 i find it annoying that every single bit of punctuation means it all to coding D:
21:14 VanessaE most languages are like that
21:14 VanessaE except maybe LOLCODE :)
21:14 VanessaE (and that's hardly a legit language)
21:15 nman3600 lol
21:15 VanessaE worse is brainfuck, where it's *all nothing but punctuation* :)
21:15 realtinymonster lol lololol lolololollo lololol lolol
21:15 VanessaE realtinymonster: no, think "lolcats" style grammar with BASIC-like syntax
21:15 nman3600 omg remind me never to start doing that
21:16 realtinymonster ah
21:16 realtinymonster "can I haz stack1", etc.?
21:16 VanessaE yes, similar
21:16 realtinymonster lol
21:16 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE
21:17 * realtinymonster squeaks
21:17 realtinymonster *rawrs!
21:17 realtinymonster :P
21:17 realtinymonster Non HTTPS!
21:18 VanessaE not everyone is paranoid enough to need https for everything
21:18 VanessaE :P
21:18 reactor If you can use https, you should use it.
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21:19 VanessaE why?
21:20 realtinymonster lol
21:21 VanessaE by virtue of me posting the link here, the NSA already knows what's on that page
21:21 VanessaE https would gain nothing here
21:21 VanessaE it's wikipedia.
21:21 VanessaE (let's assume for the moment that they're recording this conversation in some massive database)
21:22 nman3600 then they're stalkers and pervets
21:22 VanessaE their computer sees that link and follows it just as you would, just as I did when I searched for it.
21:22 nman3600 *perverts
21:22 VanessaE they get the same content you and I got.
21:22 realtinymonster nman3600: Yep, the US government is...
21:22 VanessaE https would gain you and I exactly zip.
21:23 VanessaE now on the other hand if I'm going to some private site that I don't tell anyone about at the time I visit, https makes perfect sense.
21:23 nman3600 oh wait so the us government can see UK things then
21:23 VanessaE nman3600: if it goes across a forum that's visible to the US in a general fashion, sure
21:24 realtinymonster dingbat
21:24 nman3600 ok VannesaE good...
21:24 VanessaE if a random American like me could search for it, the US government can as well, and record it.
21:24 realtinymonster yes
21:24 nman3600 i'm not american so i can do the same kinda with the UK government seeing it aswell D:
21:24 realtinymonster I like the NSA, yet at the same time, I want to bash their brains out for spying on us
21:25 nman3600 lol i agree
21:25 VanessaE (whether they actually DO record/make copies of it is a matter for the conspiracy theorists, but it is a known, documented fact that they do for some websites as well as all international phone calls to some countries)
21:25 nman3600 node ideas for my mod? join #multitest
21:26 VanessaE not presently.
21:32 Exio4 ;buf 120
21:32 Exio4 ff
21:38 ShadowNinja cheapie: Um, use digitalaudioconcepts.com.
21:38 cheapie ShadowNinja: That's what I did.
21:38 cheapie That worked.
21:39 cheapie Any idea when inchra.net will be fixed, though?
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21:48 Jordach FU skyrim
21:48 Jordach thanks for changing my keyboard prefs to US and not UK
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22:07 ShadowNinja cheapie: Should be back within a day or two, I have to wait for someone else to come online though.
22:07 cheapie OK.
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22:12 markveidemanis !up 192.227.253.67
22:12 markveidemanis !up 192.227.253.67 30010
22:12 markveidemanis ~up 192.227.253.67 30010
22:12 ShadowBot markveidemanis: 192.227.253.67 port 30010 is up (331ms)
22:13 * markveidemanis finally has a server
22:22 * Jordach dislikes windows' inability to find a string in a filename
22:23 LemonLake ^^^^^^^^^66
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22:23 Jordach seriously, if its like foobarfoo and you want bar, you wont get foobarfoo
22:23 Jordach in said results
22:23 LemonLake yep
22:23 LemonLake it looks for exact name matches but it mostly looks in the file meta or contents
22:24 Jordach Agent Ramsack is actually quite good at finding shit
22:24 realtinymonster Jordach: how's BFD?
22:24 Jordach realtinymonster, ignoring it until i finish my exams
22:24 realtinymonster ah, end of year stuff?
22:26 realtinymonster "A computer scientist is someone who fixes things that aren't broken" so true
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22:31 Jordach munchies: solved
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23:41 hunterx689 hi
23:41 LemonLake Hey!
23:41 hunterx689 VannesaE i need your help
23:42 hunterx689 something is happening ic ant connect to horus.inchra or isis,ra or anubis
23:42 hunterx689 i cant*
23:42 LemonLake It's previously been reported today
23:42 VanessaE hunterx689: the domain is down.
23:43 VanessaE use digitalaudioconcepts.com port 6697 with SSL
23:43 VanessaE (or 6667 without SSL might work too, idk)
23:43 VanessaE that'll route you to isis, which is the same IP
23:43 hunterx689 ok
23:44 Jordach i call bullshit
23:44 Jordach resolving fine for me
23:44 VanessaE but the domain is managed separately; "inchra" depends on a different server that someone else runs, that I guess is down right now?
23:44 kaeza ^
23:44 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/102152/
23:44 kaeza -"I call bullshit"
23:44 LemonLake brb
23:45 Jordach entire server messages log
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23:45 charlie what the mese vanessa
23:45 VanessaE Jordach: it's probably cached near you
23:45 Jordach <3 Quassel :P
23:45 VanessaE remember DNS does cache rather persistently.
23:45 hunterx689 you say that inchra is down now?
23:45 hunterx689 ._.
23:45 kaeza PS: dat MOTD
23:46 Jordach vanessa is referring to the external adress
23:46 VanessaE hunterx689: just the domain is I think, but the network is up.
23:46 Jordach eg, isis.inchra.net
23:46 LemonLake I just realised
23:46 LemonLake I've never played minetest...
23:46 Jordach n00b
23:46 Jordach N00B
23:46 VanessaE hunterx689: point your IRC client to digitalaudioconcepts.com or 192.99.11.10
23:46 Jordach 04,01NOOB!
23:46 LemonLake I think I played it once with my brother but only a little bit
23:46 LemonLake And it was for testing my mod
23:47 LemonLake Minetest for me is less of a game but more of a place to experiment
23:47 LemonLake A coding sandbox if you will
23:47 * kaeza doesn't play MT too much anymore... too many items in TODO.txt
23:47 LemonLake Might start helping out with some myself
23:47 VanessaE hunterx689: in other words, the phone book is misplaced, but if you remember the phone numbers you want to call, those still work.
23:47 LemonLake ^
23:48 LemonLake That's actually a pretty neat way of explaining domain names in a nutshell
23:48 hunterx689 NOOB!
23:48 hunterx689 XD
23:48 LemonLake stfu okay? xD
23:49 hunterx689 yep...
23:49 hunterx689 but my head not XD
23:49 VanessaE LemonLake: most common way I've heard to describe DNS
23:51 VanessaE You have a central building (DNS root server) that distributes phone books (DNS records) to various offices in your town (your local DNS servers).  You have call or visit your local office to use their book (make a DNS query) and write down the number you need, or you bring a book home with you (run your own DNS caching server) and look the records up yourself, then make your phone calls as needed (contact the IP addresses and send/receive
23:51 VanessaE the data you wanted).
23:52 VanessaE have to call*
23:52 LemonLake Fair enough.
23:52 LemonLake Jordach, hunterx689, here's why I've never played minetest: http://i.imgur.com/tPrmhSU.png
23:53 LemonLake Nman showed me this game, and I was dead bored and looking for something to work on so I looked at the Intro page, thought the modding API was practically minimal (just nodes and craftitems) but I looked a bit deeper and found that it's actually an entire legit API
23:53 LemonLake So I was like 'hell yeah, I'll just do stuff on here'
23:54 VanessaE heh
23:54 LemonLake I don't PLAY games much anymore
23:54 LemonLake If I do it'd be something that I actually wanted to, most of it is steam games
23:55 LemonLake And I'd play games that gave me nostalgia anyday (Pretty much any game on an old console, Portal 2, Quake, Doom, etc)
23:55 LemonLake Just never get round to doing so
23:55 VanessaE play the mt_nostalgia game then ;)
23:55 LemonLake If I've never really played it before, I wouldn't feel nostalgic
23:56 VanessaE true :)
23:56 LemonLake I'd just think "Oh. This is old. Okay"
23:56 LemonLake I replayed Portal the other day, got the Transmission Recieved achievement.
23:56 LemonLake I'm probably gonna do another rerun tonight, get Camera Shy
23:57 LemonLake Actually, fuck it I'll do that!

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