Time  Nick           Message
00:18 Jace2          hello?
00:18 zsoltisawesome goodbye?
00:18 Jace2          I had to use a different account on irc
00:19 Jace2          well nothings happening here
00:28 Exio4          yay
00:48 WindHero       there, got the Apollo Lunar Module mostly finished
01:04 * Exio4        throws a moon at WindHero
01:04 WindHero       wah!
01:04 WindHero       HOW THE HECK DO I DODGE THAT?!?!?
01:05 diemartin      "You have met with a terrible fate"
01:05 WindHero       also, you must be piloting Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann or something like that to throw a whole moon...
01:06 WindHero       @kaeza, I kinda prefer the "Tales of" series death quote: "And no one ever heard from them again"
01:07 diemartin      "But the future refused to change"
01:08 * diemartin    randomly spews awshum quotes
01:09 WindHero       :D
01:10 kaeza          also, Tales of (> Phantasia) sucks :D
01:10 kaeza          in particular the english VA
01:11 WindHero       what's the '>' about?
01:12 kaeza          anything after tales of phantasia
01:12 WindHero       xD
01:12 kaeza          <3 Arche
01:12 WindHero       Arche is neat, yeah
01:12 WindHero       I actually watched the 4 episode anime for ToP
01:15 WindHero       That being said, I do like Tear from Tales of the Abyss as well as Sheena from Tales of Symphonia
03:05 zat            VanessaE: ping
03:10 VanessaE       png
03:10 VanessaE       jpg
03:10 zat            jipg
03:10 zat            I did it VanessaE, you can add lua functions as decorations for biomes.
03:11 zat            so the function is evaluated on mapgen time.
03:11 VanessaE       sweet
03:13 zat            want to see a screenshot VanessaE?
03:13 VanessaE       oh shit, RBA is here
03:13 VanessaE       everyone hide!
03:13 VanessaE       :)
03:13 VanessaE       satsure
03:13 VanessaE       zat sure
03:13 zat            VanessaE: http://uppix.com/f-screenshot_65526537ebce6001681d1.jpg
03:14 VanessaE       cool
03:14 zat            yes, it works like crap. :D And 90% it segfaults, and the segfaults always are TOTALLY different.
03:14 zat            cool? lol
03:15 zat            all trees are partial, if less than about 20% of the tree can be called that.
03:15 VanessaE       heh
03:15 VanessaE       well it WORKS doesn't it?
03:15 zat            it works until it dies
03:15 zat            always segfaults after seconds of playing unless I set a max number of decorations hard in the code.
03:25 RealBadAngel   VanessaE, lol :)
03:25 RealBadAngel   just for a while, going to work
03:37 VanessaE       heh ok
04:05 WindHero       !seen microcarrot
04:05 MinetestBot    WindHero: microcarrot was last seen at 2014-05-20 23:35:45 UTC on #minetest
04:06 WindHero       !seen ditditdahdah2
04:06 MinetestBot    WindHero: Sorry, I haven't seen ditditdahdah2 around.
04:06 WindHero       hmm, ok then.
04:08 VanessaE       [05-22 20:18] <zsoltisawesome> goodbye?
04:09 WindHero       ik
04:09 WindHero       I was checking if he was on in the last hour
04:11 WindHero       I was hoping for his feedback on the apollo module I made
04:12 WindHero       so I can know if I should start coding a function to create one on world gen
04:19 VanessaE       haven't seen him this evening
04:19 VanessaE       but I haven't been paying very close attention either
04:24 WindHero       if anything, he would have logged in on an alt in #moontest
04:24 WindHero       judging by his patterns today
04:25 WindHero       it's no big deal anyway.
05:39 OdinAllfather  Hello
05:39 OdinAllfather  anybody there
05:39 WindHero       hi
05:40 OdinAllfather  Hey I don't think this is where everybody else is
06:11 CraigyDavi     hello
06:15 WindHero       hey
06:21 VanessaE       hi
06:44 exclaim7192    morning!
06:50 VanessaE       hey
06:50 VanessaE       missed.
06:53 nman3600       hi
06:53 VanessaE       hi
08:18 kaeza          VanessaE, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban2/commits/master
08:19 VanessaE       \o/
08:21 kaeza          pls rate share & subscribe!!
08:22 VanessaE       deployed to the servers and updated dreambuilder :)
08:22 VanessaE       good enough? :D
08:23 kaeza          :D
08:25 * VanessaE     looks at minetest pulls, hopes #1308 goes in soon
08:26 VanessaE       (and #1324 too)
08:27 kaeza          maybe I should split #1324 into 2 pulls
08:28 kaeza          also +1 to #1308
08:29 * kaeza        hasn't seen so much opposition to a rather trivial feature since non-renewable lava
08:31 VanessaE       I think it's really just Blockmen that's the main opposition
08:31 VanessaE       everyone else just wants to make sure it's done *just right* is all
08:40 VanessaE       ok I'm off
08:40 VanessaE       night
08:44 kaeza          night
08:50 * Amaz         likes #1308
08:52 PilzAdam       Hello everyone!
08:57 Amaz           Hello!
11:10 Krock          hi
11:38 MinetestBot    GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix memory leak in redis backend, fixes #1325 94dba66c16 2014-05-23T13:30:58+02:00 http://git.io/upCvVw
11:38 Krock          cool.
11:38 * sfan5        meows
11:38 sfan5          hi everyone
11:38 * Krock        meows at sfan5
11:38 * sfan5        purrs
11:48 Megaf          good morning everyone
11:50 Krock          good evening
11:50 Krock          or afternoon
11:50 Krock          or whtever
11:53 PenguinDad     good noon!
12:00 Krock          http://i.imgur.com/B2a86Xx.png
12:37 Megaf_         Suck morning, much afternoon, very night
12:38 Megaf_         s/suck/such
13:11 kaeza          such suck, very typo, wow
13:51 whiskers75     sfan5: meow
13:51 * whiskers75   krocks Krock
13:51 Krock          ...
13:51 whiskers75     pls2bomb Krock
13:51 * ^EOF         stuffs a bomb down Krock's pants.  The timer is set for 53 seconds!  There are 6 options for disarming it. (choose with disarm [option]).  They are: kitten, whiskers75.co.uk, wproject, ^EOF, skas, and cat.
13:52 whiskers75     /-\
13:52 ^EOF           The bomb on Krock exploded! They should have gone for whiskers75.co.uk!
13:52 whiskers75     -
13:53 whiskers75     /-\
13:53 whiskers75     |
13:53 whiskers75     nah
13:53 Krock          http://i.imgur.com/jViTPdU.png
13:54 Krock          (C)(R)(TM) Krock 2014
13:57 * sfan5        meows at whiskers75
13:57 * whiskers75   meows back
13:57 * sfan5        is a kitten
13:57 * whiskers75   is a kitten
13:57 sfan5          :o :o
13:57 * sfan5        is a kitten too
13:58 whiskers75     :D
13:58 * whiskers75   meows excitedly at sfan5
13:58 * sfan5        meows meowingly at whiskers75
13:58 whiskers75     ::
13:58 whiskers75     :P
13:59 PenguinDad     !c math.e
13:59 MinetestBot                                2.718281828459045
13:59 PenguinDad     <3 MinetestBot
13:59 MinetestBot    <3 PenguinDad
14:30 Krock          !title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9331
14:30 MinetestBot    Krock: [Mod] An other lua mapgen [noisetest] - Minetest Forums
14:55 Krock          no.
14:55 Krock          "Hay everypony"
14:56 * sfan5        purrs at john_minetest
14:56 PenguinDad     Krock: how about "Straw everypony" ?
14:57 Krock          PenguinDad,huh?
14:59 * sfan5        puts Derpy on john_minetest's head
14:59 VanessaE       hi all
14:59 sfan5          hi VanessaE
15:00 VanessaE       hey
15:01 Amaz           Krock, How about defining the seed for your mapgen with math.random?
15:01 Krock          Amaz, everytime you join a new seed?
15:01 sfan5          VanessaE: do you have time to do minetestmapper debugging?
15:01 Krock          twf?
15:01 Krock          *wtf
15:01 Amaz           Ah....
15:01 VanessaE       sure
15:01 Amaz           That would be a problem...
15:02 Amaz           Didn't think about that.
15:02 sfan5          Krock: use math.randomseed
15:02 Krock          Amaz, saving data in the worldfolderwould be a soulation
15:02 Krock          sfan5, and what's the difference?
15:03 sfan5          math.randomseed affects the outcome of math.random
15:03 sfan5          e.g. if you do math.randomseed(1234) the next call to math.random() will output the same every time
15:03 Krock          sfan5, that's not a soulation for this problem
15:03 sfan5          why not?
15:04 Krock          I don't see why this should detect which world is generating with which seed
15:05 Krock          saving seed into a file would be better
15:06 sfan5          uh
15:06 sfan5          it's saved into map_meta.txt
15:06 Krock          sfan5, I know but what would be the function to get that seed?
15:06 sfan5          read the file manually
15:07 Krock          minetest.deserialize.. ok
15:07 sfan5          VanessaE: apply http://ix.io/cC7 & post the output of minetestmapper (you do not needc to wait for the map to finish rendering)
15:07 sfan5          Krock: NO!
15:07 Krock          why no! help me!
15:07 VanessaE       sfan5: ok..
15:07 sfan5          minetest.deserialize is for lua stuff
15:08 sfan5          if you have even looked at map_meta.txt once you will see that it is not lua stuff
15:08 sfan5          also the lua function should get the seed as an argument
15:08 VanessaE       whoa
15:08 VanessaE       I hope you don't want ALL of that output ;)
15:08 Krock          how then, sfan5 - how could I get that value?
15:09 sfan5          VanessaE: the first 100 lines should be sufficent
15:09 kaeza          Krock, io.open ?
15:09 VanessaE       http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7505946/
15:09 LforLeeeeeeeX  vanessa
15:09 kaeza          and parse the file
15:09 kaeza          hi V
15:10 LforLeeeeeeeX  thi kaeza
15:10 kaeza          hallo
15:10 VanessaE       hey kaeza (I got that skin that ladygaga wanted, it'll be ready tomorrow morn)
15:10 LforLeeeeeeeX  VanessaE i need the link to ur irc channel
15:11 sfan5          Krock: minetest.register_on_generated(function(minp, maxp, seed) .... end) the 'seed' var
15:11 kaeza          or that ^ :P
15:11 VanessaE       http://webchat.inchra.net/#minetest
15:11 VanessaE       LforLeeeeeeeX: ^^^^^^
15:11 * kaeza        pets sfan5
15:11 * sfan5        meows
15:11 Krock          sfan5, ugh. thanks.
15:16 VanessaE       sfan5: did you see the paste?
15:16 sfan5          yes
15:17 VanessaE       ok
15:17 sfan5          VanessaE: it still produces a broken rendering, right?
15:17 VanessaE       I didn't let it finish.
15:17 sfan5          nono
15:17 sfan5          you told me yesterday that #7 wasn't fixed
15:18 sfan5          you must have run minetestmapper in order to conclude that
15:18 VanessaE       #7 is the takes-forever issue
15:18 nman3600       hi
15:18 VanessaE       the other one is the broken rendering issue :)
15:18 VanessaE       but lemme run it again and see
15:18 VanessaE       I just meant this time here.
15:19 sfan5          hm, ok
15:19 sfan5          VanessaE: is #8 still an issue?
15:20 VanessaE       sfan5: I'm about to find out
15:21 reactor        "Здрасьте! Я родом из Бобруйска! Я гуру, по-нашему это будет учитель."
15:24 VanessaE       eh?
15:24 kaeza          random repost: http://pastebin.com/QVJw577B
15:28 VanessaE       sfan5: #7 may or may not be valid now, but #8 is.  freshly-rendered image:  http://minetest.digitalaudioconcepts.com/test.png
15:28 VanessaE       took 6m34s to render this.
15:28 VanessaE       should have taken a bit under 4m
15:28 sfan5          what's that qr code on your map?
15:28 VanessaE       might be due to database locking, as there is someone on that server right now
15:28 sfan5          *takes out phone*
15:29 kaeza          inb4 rickroll'd
15:29 sfan5          >Cubic Volumes
15:30 sfan5          >My Minetest blog of life in cubic measures
15:30 VanessaE       heh
15:31 sfan5          VanessaE: is the side of your map completly flat, I'm not able to make out any shading?
15:31 sfan5          (right of the qr code)
15:33 sfan5          wtf is this?
15:38 VanessaE       what qr code?
15:39 sfan5          on the map
15:40 VanessaE       oh THERE it is
15:40 VanessaE       who the hell built that?
15:40 VanessaE       and no
15:40 sfan5          right of it
15:40 sfan5          the terrain has no shading
15:40 VanessaE       the map is NOT supposed to be flat there
15:40 sfan5          (WTF)
15:41 VanessaE       to the north and south where you see all white?  that's not snow.
15:41 VanessaE       :)
15:42 sfan5          :/
15:42 VanessaE       that's the rendering glitch that #8 refers to :)
15:44 VanessaE       so where does that QR code point? :)
15:44 sfan5          http://bitly.com/cubicvolumes?r=qr
15:44 sfan5          ^ VanessaE
15:44 VanessaE       heh
15:45 VanessaE       that's FUNNY
15:45 Krock          kaeza, if(title_is_valid) then moveTo( "Modding General", https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9331 )  thanks() else print(error) end
15:46 kaeza          error: <string [if (title...)]>:1: mod is already in Modding General
15:46 VanessaE       I think that's MichaelEh's page (or at least, that space station is his)
15:46 Krock          damn.. wrong tab open
15:46 sfan5          lol
15:46 sfan5          VanessaE: apply http://ix.io/cCb and run the mapper again
15:47 VanessaE       ok, rendering now.
15:47 sfan5          john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/pfIE03c.jpg
15:48 Krock          *string.gsub(Krock.get_last_message(2), "Modding General", "Mod Releases")
15:48 whiskers75     sfan5: AWW
15:48 Krock          kaeza -           ^
15:48 whiskers75     :D
15:48 kaeza          Krock, moved!
15:48 Krock          thx
15:48 * sfan5        meows at whiskers75
15:48 VanessaE       it threw a number of "Node 'default:snow' was rendered in all white"
15:48 * whiskers75   meows
15:48 sfan5          I don't think that is a problem
15:48 sfan5          unless it mistakes all those nodes for snow
15:49 VanessaE       a few here and there of other items that are all white, and which I know should be (dirt with snow, white homedecor glow lights)
15:50 sfan5          VanessaE: ^C it
15:50 Jordach        >On top of this, like many women of minetest, Darkrose takes no shit from users.
15:50 VanessaE       ok, stopped.
15:51 sfan5          VanessaE: git reset HEAD^ --hard & apply http://ix.io/cCc & re-run
15:51 RealBadAngel   side note, somebody should dare and steal torch from darkrose
15:51 sfan5          Jordach: https://soundcloud.com/dubstep/destroid-annihilate-datsik-remix-edmcom-premiere
15:51 sfan5          Jordach: how's the weather where you live?
15:52 Jordach        FUCKING HOT
15:52 VanessaE       sfan5: ok, it's running
15:52 sfan5          Jordach: it was raining today here; while i was driving home; driving home by bike
15:52 sfan5          but now it's sunny again
15:53 * Jordach      thought sfan5 was actually driving a bike
15:53 sfan5          I fucking hate the weathewr
15:53 sfan5          -w
15:53 Jordach        car*
15:53 Jordach        legit :P
15:53 sfan5          I'm not old enough to drive a car
15:53 Krock          ^ +1
15:53 * Jordach      is legally able to
15:53 Jordach        just need lessons + license
15:53 sfan5          and money
15:53 Jordach        i gots that
15:53 Jordach        :D
15:54 sfan5          :D
15:54 PenguinDad     D:
15:54 Jordach        and no
15:54 kaeza          ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
15:54 Jordach        i'm not driving to germany :P
15:54 VanessaE       whoa
15:54 sfan5          I supposed it's a bit hard to drive on water
15:54 sfan5          -d
15:54 VanessaE       got about 20 or so of these, Node 'default:cloud' was rendered in all white | (x,y) = (4423, 7965)
15:54 Jordach        sfan5, Eurotunnel (n00b)
15:54 VanessaE       but that's probably nothing.
15:54 sfan5          ah right
15:55 Jordach        Eurostar!
15:55 * sfan5        throws euros at Jordach
15:55 * Krock        throws Schwiizer Fränkli at sfan5 and Jordach
15:55 * sfan5        flips Krock
15:55 * Krock        flops
15:55 sfan5          <random> https://soundcloud.com/kubbi/polarity-teslagrad-ost-remix </random>
15:56 VanessaE       sfan5: finished in 3m40s, which is just about right, but broken still
15:57 sfan5          output?
15:58 VanessaE       http://minetest.digitalaudioconcepts.com/test.png
15:58 sfan5          no hundreds of lines?
15:58 sfan5          i mean stdout
15:58 VanessaE       even more broken in fact.  look at the QR code
15:58 VanessaE       OH, one second
15:58 sfan5          wut
15:59 VanessaE       http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7506152/
15:59 sfan5          I don't even
16:01 sfan5          VanessaE: sorry, I have zero idea why it does that and why it randomly forgets to render stuff and why it randomly forgets to use colors
16:01 VanessaE       heh
16:01 VanessaE       well at least #7 seems to be fixed now
16:01 sfan5          VanessaE: could you try with the colors.txt from the repo?
16:01 VanessaE       if that rendering time stays consistent anyway
16:01 VanessaE       sure
16:02 VanessaE       wait
16:02 VanessaE       that IS the colors.txt from the repo
16:02 VanessaE       fuck
16:02 VanessaE       that rendering time test is invalid :(
16:02 VanessaE       I forgot to swap mine back in after that git reset
16:04 sfan5          *sigh*
16:04 VanessaE       trying it with mine just to see what it does.
16:05 sfan5          do you have a small as possible map I can use to reproduce this?
16:07 VanessaE       sure, the Free-for-All map, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/FreeForAll_World-map.sqlite.bz2 (about 118 MB)
16:07 sfan5          do you use sqlite3 for all of your worlds?
16:07 VanessaE       yeah
16:07 sfan5          why not leveldb or redis?
16:07 sfan5          hm
16:07 VanessaE       lazy :)
16:07 sfan5          redis will probably use too much RAM
16:08 Jordach        level'db ftw
16:08 * sfan5        purrs at Jordach
16:09 whiskers75     sfan5: how much data does redis use?
16:10 whiskers75     as in, how much is stored?
16:10 sfan5          uh, what
16:10 whiskers75     I'm thinking use something like http://redistogo.com's free plan if the amount needed is <5mb
16:10 sfan5          uh.. no
16:10 whiskers75     lol
16:10 sfan5          a redis database probably takes the same amount of space like a sqlite3 database
16:12 sfan5          whiskers75: you would need Smedium - Large for a minetest server
16:14 rubenwardy     Hi all!
16:14 Krock          hi
16:14 VanessaE       sfan5: moved the file to http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worlds/FreeForAll_World-map.sqlite.bz2
16:15 VanessaE       (figured I needed to organize that dir just a little)
16:15 sfan5          VanessaE: I already finshed downloading
16:15 VanessaE       oh ok
16:15 VanessaE       my "official" colors.txt if you need it, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt
16:15 VanessaE       ;)
16:16 sfan5          VanessaE: and I cannot reproduce your issue: https://mediacru.sh/FN7sN_flP0eB
16:16 VanessaE       I think that world is too small.
16:16 VanessaE       it doesn't happen for me on that one either:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/FreeForAll_World.png
16:16 sfan5          could you try running minetestmapper on your server for that world
16:16 sfan5          ?
16:17 VanessaE       or wait, wrong image link
16:17 VanessaE       that's from ShadowNinja's fork
16:17 VanessaE       sure.  one sec.
16:17 VanessaE       btw, with my colors.txt, had to cancel your fork after 12m on survival.
16:17 sfan5          VanessaE: your fork = official version?
16:17 VanessaE       yeah
16:18 VanessaE       so #7 is definitely not fixed :(
16:18 sfan5          it would be interesting to see a callgrind of runs before that alpha stuff commit and after
16:19 VanessaE       45s to generate this:  http://minetest.digitalaudioconcepts.com/test3.png
16:19 VanessaE       (official fork, default colors.txt
16:19 VanessaE       )
16:20 VanessaE       so the map probably needs to be above a certain Z size
16:20 VanessaE       whoa
16:20 VanessaE                                2048
16:20 VanessaE       look at the survival map
16:21 VanessaE       the cutoff is at Z+2048
16:21 VanessaE       and at z -2048
16:21 VanessaE       overflow?
16:21 VanessaE       (I mean the http://minetest.digitalaudioconcepts.com/test.png test image)
16:22 sfan5          hm
16:22 sfan5          what exactly could overflow?
16:22 VanessaE       no idea :)
16:25 VanessaE       you should be able to reproduce the cutoff with this one, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worlds/Nostalgia_World-map.sqlite.bz2 (about 229 MB)
16:25 VanessaE       http://minetest.digitalaudioconcepts.com/test4.png
16:26 sfan5          ok
16:26 VanessaE       heh, default colors.txt doesn't recognize the grass from that map :D
16:28 FreeFull       Huge
16:29 VanessaE       hardly.   Survival expands to ~4.7 GB.
16:31 * VanessaE     wonders if she pissed sfan5 off :-/
16:31 sfan5          no
16:31 VanessaE       ok good :)
16:31 sfan5          89% [=============================================>      ] 206.024.896 1,24MB/s  ETA 24s
16:31 VanessaE       nice
16:44 rubenwardy     Times new roman D: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/
16:45 VanessaE       meanwhile, sfan5 is now *totally* confused ;)
16:45 VanessaE       hey rubenwardy
16:45 rubenwardy     VanessaE: Why does your unicorn have a penis?
16:46 VanessaE       wat?
16:47 rubenwardy     http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/images/unicorn-small.jpg
16:47 VanessaE       I'm...pretty sure that's a shadow.
16:49 VanessaE       there.  better?
16:49 sfan5          VanessaE: you were right
16:49 sfan5          I'm totally confused
16:49 VanessaE       lol
16:49 sfan5          zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  ./minetestmapper -i map -o map.png
16:49 VanessaE       sfan5: you threw the Vanilla map at it, didn't you? ;)
16:49 sfan5          <VanessaE> you should be able to reproduce the cutoff with this one, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worlds/Nostalgia_World-map.sqlite.bz2 (about 229 MB)
16:50 VanessaE       oh ok :)
16:50 VanessaE       I didn't realize the Nostalgia map was doing that too
16:50 sfan5          GD Warning: product of memory allocation multiplication would exceed INT_MAX, failing operation gracefully
16:50 sfan5          what
16:50 sfan5          I think we shoudn't use libgd
16:51 sfan5          VanessaE: what geometry arg are you using?
16:51 rubenwardy     What language defines functions with a  ->?  like function(x, y) -> \n \t somestuf();
16:51 VanessaE       ./minetestmapper --drawscale --geometry -5000:-7500+12000+15000 -i /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds/Nostalgia_World/ -o /home/minetest/www/test4.png
16:52 sfan5          rubenwardy: rust?
16:52 sfan5          hm no
16:52 sfan5          maybe javascript es6
16:52 VanessaE       sfan5: all of my maps are generated with that same geometry argument (via a script)
16:52 sfan5          or coffescript
16:52 rubenwardy     ah
16:53 rubenwardy     I think it is coffeescript
16:53 rubenwardy     (I was thinking of)
16:53 rubenwardy     or moon script, the lua thingy#
16:54 sfan5          VanessaE: what I think is wrong: renderMapBlock() does not even render the mapblock, that is why it looks like all nodes were rendered in white
16:54 VanessaE       weird
16:56 sfan5          YESS!
16:56 sfan5          I was right
16:56 sfan5          when I set the bgcolor to something not white the area just contain the node height on the bgcolor bg
16:59 VanessaE       now the question is why doesn't it render the actual terrain :)
16:59 sfan5          yeah
16:59 sfan5          actually no
16:59 sfan5          the question is WTF is wrong?
17:00 sfan5          it is not possible for it to render the correct terrain shadings without getting paste the code that sets the color
17:00 VanessaE       well that's what I meant
17:04 Jordach        and this is why we shouldn't be using python for this shit
17:05 Jordach        (IF we still happen to be)
17:06 VanessaE       this is C++ Jordach
17:06 Jordach        for the first time i might condone it :P
17:24 nman3600       hi
17:24 VanessaE       hi
17:25 nman3600       should i relsease my new mod now or later?
17:26 Jordach        now
17:26 Jordach        feedback is always good
17:26 nman3600       ok just going to finish editing the screenshots
17:51 sfan5          VanessaE: I have just rewritten most of the code, but now shading is completly broken and mapblocks are somehow rendered mirrored, it looks terrible
17:55 VanessaE       lol
17:55 VanessaE       it could be worse
17:55 sfan5          no really
17:55 sfan5          you haven't seen the output
17:55 sfan5          it looks terrible
17:56 VanessaE       all right, I'll bite :)
17:57 sfan5          VanessaE: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/WD3RLG4uAjG9.png
17:57 VanessaE       oh my
17:57 VanessaE       looks like the "munch" screensaver :D
17:58 * Calinou      stopped using screensaver a long time ago
18:02 BlockMen       looks like a world in carbone :P
18:05 Calinou        why
18:18 twoelk         sfan: declare it as random art
18:19 sfan5          sounds like a good idea
18:31 * WindHero     is no longer a high school student
18:33 Exio4          now you're a college student?
18:33 WindHero       not until fall
18:33 WindHero       but I finished my last test today
18:34 Exio4          kk
18:58 rubenwardy     'Fall' makes me chuckle
18:58 rubenwardy     Spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9333
18:58 WindHero       :P
18:59 WindHero       Fall... methinks there's a hidden conotation there :P
19:00 rubenwardy     We call it 'Autumn' in England
19:00 WindHero       I know :)
19:00 WindHero       I'm lazy...
19:00 WindHero       besides, Hawaii hardly even has an Autumn
19:01 WindHero       maybe slight weather changes, or certain plants not in bloom
19:01 PenguinDad     We call it "Herbst" in Germany
19:01 WindHero       but no beautiful dying trees
19:02 BlockMen       dying trees are not beautiful
19:02 WindHero       well
19:02 WindHero       the leaves
19:02 WindHero       not the trees themselves :P
19:03 * BlockMen     prefers spring and summer
19:03 reactor        Who doesn't. *rolls eyes*
19:04 reactor        Winter sucks. Apart from occasional skiing.
19:04 WindHero       naturally.
19:04 WindHero       the only snow here is at the top of Mauna Kea
19:05 WindHero       which ironically is one of the few places seasons do visibly show
19:05 Exio4          i love winter
19:05 Exio4          summer sux
19:06 Exio4          who would love having 40C
19:06 Exio4          having 0-5C is waay better :D
19:06 * Krock        grabs c# perlin noise lib
19:07 WindHero       :D
19:07 WindHero       C# <3
19:07 Megaf          11C here
19:07 WindHero       20C/68F here
19:08 Krock          -1337°C here
19:08 Megaf          Krock: Quite cold
19:08 WindHero       rofl
19:08 Krock          nah
19:09 PenguinDad     !rand 10,20
19:09 MinetestBot    PenguinDad: Could not parse argument 1
19:09 PenguinDad     !rand 10 20
19:09 MinetestBot                               13
19:09 Exio4          -1337C seems like +infiniteC?
19:09 Exio4          "infinite"
19:09 Krock          ^
19:09 PenguinDad     13°C here
19:09 WindHero       rofl
19:09 Exio4          isn't negative kelvin like uba-hot?
19:10 Krock          !rand -1.337 -9.001
19:10 MinetestBot    Krock: Could not parse argument 1
19:10 Krock          to bad
19:10 Exio4          !random -1337 -9001
19:10 MinetestBot                            -3141
19:10 Exio4          y u use dot
19:10 Exio4          >.<
19:12 Megaf          !rand 0 1
19:12 MinetestBot                                1
19:12 Megaf          !rand 0 1
19:12 Megaf          !rand 0 1
19:12 MinetestBot                                0
19:12 Jordach        lol
19:12 Megaf          !rand 0 3
19:12 MinetestBot                                1
19:12 Megaf          !rand 1 7
19:12 MinetestBot                                7
19:13 Megaf          !rand 0 3
19:13 MinetestBot                                1
19:13 Megaf          !rand 1 7
19:13 MinetestBot                                6
19:13 Megaf          doest look really random
19:13 WindHero                              567448
19:13 Megaf          !rand 0 13081204812804120854210481230821421052314213421312043287543796420560234-91279412038128048043521421387129748053475793495834502308418081088080818008280312400000000000000111111
19:13 MinetestBot    Megaf: Could not parse argument 2
19:13 WindHero       typing random numbers works well enough ^
19:13 WindHero       epic fail xD
19:14 PenguinDad     Megaf: MinetestBot isn't using /dev/random
19:14 PenguinDad     only /dev/urandom
19:14 Megaf          !rand 1 100000000000000000000000000000
19:14 MinetestBot    55269552355582171542630788838
19:14 jordan4ibanez  !rand inf
19:14 MinetestBot    jordan4ibanez: Could not parse argument 1
19:14 jordan4ibanez  !rand ∞
19:14 MinetestBot    jordan4ibanez: Could not parse argument 1
19:14 jordan4ibanez  smart
19:14 Jordach        hey jordan4ibanez
19:15 jordan4ibanez  Hello
19:15 jordan4ibanez  Jordach: Hello
19:15 PenguinDad     !rand 0 math.hug
19:15 MinetestBot    PenguinDad: Could not parse argument 2
19:15 jordan4ibanez  If someone figures out how to random to inifinite placements then that bot will crash
19:15 PenguinDad     !rand 0 math.huge
19:15 MinetestBot    PenguinDad: Could not parse argument 2
19:17 jordan4ibanez  !rand -1
19:17 MinetestBot    ValueError: empty range for randrange() (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 192, in randrange)
19:17 jordan4ibanez  !rand π
19:17 MinetestBot    jordan4ibanez: Could not parse argument 1
19:17 PenguinDad     !rand 0 18446744073709551615
19:17 MinetestBot             14542062735714615997
19:17 jordan4ibanez  I tried to randomize pi
19:18 PenguinDad     !rand 0 math.pi
19:18 MinetestBot    PenguinDad: Could not parse argument 2
19:18 PenguinDad     she doesn't like pi :(
19:19 PilzAdam       !ignore jordan4ibanez
19:19 MinetestBot    PilzAdam: 'jordan4ibanez' added to ignore list.
19:19 PilzAdam       try to crash the bot now
19:19 jordan4ibanez  heuheuheuheuheu
19:21 jordan4ibanez  Can't you just change your name to attempt to crash it?
19:27 Jordach        !unignore jordan4ibanez
19:27 MinetestBot    Jordach: 'jordan4ibanez' removed from ignore list.
19:27 Jordach        provided you don't crash MinetestBot again
19:27 Jordach        because i will kick your ass
19:28 jordan4ibanez  No I mean can't you change your nick to fuck with the bot again? Or does it take down your IP?
19:29 PilzAdam       jordan4ibanez, neither nick changing nor a different IP helps
19:29 PenguinDad     jordan4ibanez: you can change your nick for playing with her but you shouldn't do that
19:29 PilzAdam       the bot tracks _you_
19:30 jordan4ibanez  Time to switch back to dialup
19:33 MinetestBot                             1337
19:33 MinetestBot    john_minetest: Could not parse argument 2
19:34 MinetestBot                              724
19:35 jordan4ibanez  Excess traffic on outdated communication systems
19:36 PenguinDad     I'm a moron :( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Moron&defid=932166
19:36 * sfan5        meows at jordan4ibanez to welcome him
19:37 jordan4ibanez  Hey sfan5
19:39 * sfan5        meows at Jordach
19:39 Jordach        something was using 300kbps constant upload
19:39 sfan5          PenguinDad: !rand is only for numbers
19:39 sfan5          use !c math.random(a, b) if you want more advanced stuff
19:39 WindHero       that's odd...
19:39 PenguinDad     now I'm a dumbass too. what a bad day :(
19:40 sfan5          !c math.random(math.pi)
19:40 MinetestBot    AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'random'
19:40 sfan5          fail
19:40 sfan5          !c random.random(math.pi)
19:40 MinetestBot    TypeError: random() takes no arguments (1 given)
19:40 sfan5          !c random.randint(math.pi)
19:40 MinetestBot    TypeError: randint() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)
19:40 sfan5          -.-
19:40 sfan5          !c random.randint(0, math.pi)
19:40 MinetestBot    ValueError: non-integer stop for randrange()
19:40 sfan5          <.<
19:40 sfan5          hello asie
19:40 BlockMen       lol
19:41 WindHero       !c random.randint(0,math.floor(math.pi))
19:41 MinetestBot                                3
19:42 sfan5          !c random.random() * math.pi
19:42 MinetestBot                                1.559925024762819
19:42 PenguinDad     !c random.randint(math.floor(math.e),math.ceil(math.pi))
19:42 MinetestBot                                3
19:42 PenguinDad     yay!
19:52 nman3600       hi
19:52 sfan5          hi
19:52 nman3600       what shall i add to my mod?
19:53 Exio4          !c random.randint(import something)
19:53 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
19:53 Exio4          what is c
19:53 sfan5          calculate
19:53 nman3600       !rainbow kittens
19:53 MinetestBot    4k4i4t7t7e7n8s
19:53 Exio4          !help
19:53 MinetestBot    https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
19:54 * Krock        is happy :D got perlin noise outputting an image
19:54 nman3600       idk what to add to my mod
19:55 nman3600       !rainbow help me i need ideas
19:55 MinetestBot    4h4e4l7p7 7m8e8 8i3 3n3e12e12d12 6i6d6e13a13s
19:55 WindHero       which mod?
19:56 nman3600       it's one i'm working on
19:56 nman3600       it adds loads of blocks
19:56 nman3600       join #multitest for more info
19:56 jordan4ibanez  Dude http://www.elderscrolls.com/daggerfall This is AWESOME
19:57 Exio4          !p random.random();import os;os.exec("whatever");
19:57 Exio4          !c random.random();import os;os.exec("whatever");
19:57 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
19:57 Exio4          hmm, where can i test it
19:57 Exio4          does it work in query sfan5?
19:57 sfan5          !c __import__("os").popen("whatever").read()
19:57 MinetestBot    sfan5: Sorry, but no double underscores.
19:57 sfan5          ^ Exio4 this is how you would do it
19:57 sfan5          !py __import__("os").popen("uname").read()
19:57 MinetestBot    'Linux\n'
19:58 Exio4          !c math.random() * (__import__("os").popen("uname").read())
19:58 MinetestBot    Exio4: Sorry, but no double underscores.
19:58 Exio4          ah, no double underscores
19:58 Megaf          ~rand a b
19:59 Megaf          !rand a b
19:59 MinetestBot    Megaf: Could not parse argument 1
19:59 PenguinDad     !c random.randint(0x0,0xF)
19:59 MinetestBot                                2
19:59 Megaf          !ran A4 5D
19:59 sfan5          Exio4: why do you add math.random() at the start?
19:59 Megaf          !rand A4 5D
19:59 MinetestBot    Megaf: Could not parse argument 1
19:59 Exio4          wanted to try somethin'
20:00 Megaf          !c system.halt
20:00 MinetestBot    NameError: name 'system' is not defined
20:00 Megaf          lol
20:00 Exio4          !c sys.version
20:00 MinetestBot    NameError: name 'sys' is not defined
20:00 Exio4          !c import sys; sys.version
20:00 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:00 Megaf          !c printf."Hi"
20:00 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:00 Megaf          !c printf.Hi
20:00 MinetestBot    NameError: name 'printf' is not defined
20:00 Exio4          y invalid :<
20:00 Exio4          i don't know python
20:00 sfan5          Exio4: YOU CAN'T USE IMPORT <THING> DIRECTLY
20:01 sfan5          that would work normally
20:01 Exio4          why not
20:01 sfan5          but it does not within eval
20:01 Exio4          ah
20:01 sfan5          eval expect an expession, import is something special
20:01 sfan5          Megaf: python is not c
20:01 Megaf          !c #include <stdio.h>
20:01 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
20:01 sfan5          wtf
20:01 diemartin      lel
20:01 Megaf          is that python only?
20:01 sfan5          yes
20:01 sfan5          why would I make it use c?
20:02 Megaf          Why the heck !c if its python?
20:02 Megaf          Why not !py
20:02 diemartin      uhh !c[alc] ?
20:02 Exio4          !py 1+1
20:03 Exio4          !c 1+1
20:03 MinetestBot                                2
20:03 Megaf          !c 7 / 3 ==
20:03 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
20:03 sfan5          Megaf: !py is the unsandboxed thing for me only
20:03 PenguinDad     !c "Bot Abuse! " * 8
20:03 MinetestBot    'Bot Abuse! Bot Abuse! Bot Abuse! Bot Abuse! Bot Abuse! Bot Abuse! Bot Abuse! Bot Abuse! '
20:03 Megaf          !c 7 / 3
20:03 MinetestBot                                2
20:04 Megaf          !c "LoLollolLoL " * 30
20:04 MinetestBot    'LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL '
20:04 Megaf          !c "LoLollolLoL " * 90
20:04 MinetestBot    'LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollolLoL LoLollol
20:04 * Megaf        Evil Mode On
20:04 Megaf          !c "LoLollolLoL " * 5 + 90
20:04 MinetestBot    TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects
20:04 Exio4          sfan5: does it has timeouts against "cpu-consuming" things?
20:05 nman3600       !c "test" 10
20:05 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
20:05 Jordach        next person to abuse gets kicked
20:05 Megaf          Can I !c " " * 100 ?
20:05 nman3600       ok
20:05 * Exio4        abuses Jordach
20:05 * Jordach      puts on the serious face
20:05 sfan5          Exio4: currently not and I won't add that, simply don't be an ass
20:05 * sfan5        curls up to Jordach's lap
20:05 Megaf          !weather dublin
20:05 Exio4          kk
20:05 Exio4          i asked before trying
20:05 Megaf          Don't we have weather?
20:06 sfan5          no
20:06 sfan5          send a PR
20:06 sfan5          https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
20:06 Megaf          I know nothing about python
20:06 sfan5          then learn pythin
20:06 sfan5          python*
20:06 Megaf          I mean I don't know python
20:06 sfan5          <sfan5> then learn python
20:07 Exio4          python is like java
20:07 Megaf          I know something in assembly...
20:07 diemartin      !rainbow Python!
20:07 MinetestBot    4P4y4t7h7o7n8!
20:07 diemartin      <3 MinetestBot
20:07 MinetestBot    <3 diemartin
20:07 * Megaf        knows some C and C++, little Assembly and some BASIC, and some Shell Script
20:07 Exio4          diemartin: what do you think about haskell?
20:07 Exio4          if i haven't asked you before
20:08 diemartin      it sucks
20:08 sfan5          ^
20:08 Exio4          why
20:08 sfan5          Megaf: what is "Shell Script"?
20:08 Exio4          bash i guess
20:08 diemartin      dunno, just my random response to lang != "C"
20:08 Megaf          !c print "Hello, World!"
20:08 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:08 Exio4          zsh is used by hipsters-only and posix-shell nah
20:08 Megaf          !c print."Hello, World!"
20:08 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:08 Megaf          what?
20:08 Exio4          diemartin: haskell is actually nice
20:09 sfan5          Megaf: eval expects an expression "print 'meow'" is something else
20:09 Megaf          !c print.'Hello, World!'
20:09 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:09 * Megaf        gives up
20:09 sfan5          LISTEN TO ME!
20:09 diemartin      !c 'Hello, World!'
20:09 MinetestBot    'Hello, World!'
20:09 Megaf          That's no fun
20:10 WindHero       !c eval(print "I listen")
20:10 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:10 diemartin      Exio4, what's so good about it?
20:10 WindHero       kusou
20:10 Exio4          diemartin: it is lazy, pure and has nice syntax
20:10 Exio4          pure as functional fwiw
20:11 WindHero       "if there is evil in this world, surely it lurks in the" bots "of" #minetest
20:11 PenguinDad     we need super lazy languages that wear capes :P
20:11 diemartin      :D
20:12 WindHero       thought you'd like that
20:13 Krock          !c math.abs('Hello, World!')
20:13 MinetestBot    AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'abs'
20:15 sfan5          おやすみ〜
20:16 diemartin      !c "\x28\x20\xCD\xA1\xC2\xB0\x20\xCD\x9C\xCA\x96\x20\xCD\xA1\xC2\xB0\x29"
20:16 MinetestBot    '( \xcd\xa1\xc2\xb0 \xcd\x9c\xca\x96 \xcd\xa1\xc2\xb0)'
20:16 diemartin      :(
20:16 Exio4          !c phenny.reply("Nothing to calculate.")
20:16 MinetestBot    NameError: name 'phenny' is not defined
20:16 Exio4          aw
20:17 Exio4          !c throw Exception "abc"
20:17 MinetestBot    SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:17 Exio4          :D
20:17 Exio4          D:
20:17 Exio4          how do you throw an exception
20:17 diemartin      raise
20:17 diemartin      but it's a statement
20:18 Exio4          so, it doesn't work
20:18 Exio4          why can't everything be a function
20:18 diemartin      <3 Lua
20:18 diemartin      even require is a function
20:19 * Exio4        yawns
20:20 Exio4          3/23/13
20:20 Exio4          wtf
20:20 Exio4          diemartin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher-order_function
20:20 diemartin      wat
20:38 Megaf          !l test
20:38 Megaf          !py print
20:38 Megaf          Bye MinetestBot
20:38 Megaf          Hi MinetestBot
20:38 MinetestBot    sup Megaf!
20:38 Megaf          Bye MinetestBot
20:38 Megaf          ^ sfan5
20:48 MinetestBot    GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Item entity stacks merge on the ground. 18fe277d94 2014-05-23T22:46:05+02:00 http://git.io/qxm-zA
21:00 Jordach        ;o
21:07 CraigyDavi     john_minetest, That's RBA. They need to connect the git configuration to github
21:25 ShadowNinja    john_minetest: It's a fallback because MinetestBot often fails to get the username somehow.