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00:10 WindHero alright, made a skin: http://i749.photobucket.com/album​s/xx132/Phantom1714/windhero.png
00:11 WindHero assembled picture: http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx1​32/Phantom1714/texture_screenshot.png
00:51 WindHero Added it to the skin database
01:06 Vazon mhmmm
01:07 Vazon is anyone familiar with VannessaE's restart code??
02:55 Vazon VanessaE are you back?
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04:11 blaise what's that up command?
04:11 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org
04:11 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 seems to be down
04:11 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:35000
04:11 MinetestBot blaise: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
04:11 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org 35000
04:11 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:35000 seems to be down
04:12 blaise Gah Damnah!!
04:12 blaise it should totally be up.. I'm connected and using the server right meaow
05:07 Johnyknowhow My god
05:07 Johnyknowhow I just shot a Technic MK3 Mining Laser in claimed land on a server
05:07 Johnyknowhow it was terrible
05:07 Johnyknowhow you get sent to jail for digging in claimed land
05:07 Johnyknowhow so....
05:07 Johnyknowhow I got jailed for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 whole minutes.
05:08 Johnyknowhow I even had to watch the numbers slowly going up.
05:08 Johnyknowhow Congratz me
05:08 Johnyknowhow for getting the longest jailtime on the server.
05:09 Johnyknowhow #fail
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05:43 VanessaE J0ny3vuG"B
05:43 VanessaE wtf?
05:43 VanessaE stupid cat
05:53 blaise lol
05:55 blaise what is this claimed land stuff?
05:58 VanessaE presumably he means the landclaim server/mod
06:01 blaise interesting
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06:15 Johnyknowhow Landrush Mod
06:15 Johnyknowhow Im playing on the Ethicrush server,
06:18 VanessaE er yeah, landrush I meant
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06:41 TheEpicJames hi
06:51 sfan5 meow
06:51 sfan5 hi everyone
06:51 VanessaE hey
06:54 whiskers75 meow, sfan5
06:58 blaise which weather mod is the best one to use?
06:59 VanessaE snowdrift :)
06:59 blaise https://github.com/proller/minetest-mod-weather
06:59 blaise https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-weather
06:59 blaise what are this snow drift?
06:59 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6854
06:59 VanessaE I run this on three of my servers.
06:59 VanessaE HDX supports it.
07:02 blaise interesting
07:02 blaise seems like I remember someone had weather mod that had sand storms and stuff....
07:04 VanessaE I don't recall seeing that.
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07:16 Mimilus what is the best ? Making all texture one by one, or use ^ for concatening textures ? the first way requires  a lot of files but is it better for the framerate ?
07:23 sfan5 but is it better for the framerate ?
07:23 sfan5 no
07:23 sfan5 ^ Mimilus
07:24 sfan5 textures are only created once and then kept in cache
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07:28 Mimilus ok thx, it is more simple
07:30 blaise hey, is there armor in minetest yet?
07:36 sfan5 blaise: there are armor mods
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07:36 blaise sfan5: any one in particular you're fond of?
07:36 blaise https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3099 is this any good?
07:37 sfan5 !title
07:37 MinetestBot sfan5: [Mod] Armor [armor] Craft and attach armor to your inventory. - Minetest Forums
07:37 VanessaE Mimilus: there is one caveat to using the ^ operator:  don't use it on textures where the thing below implies some kind of "shape" to the "surface" of the object
07:38 VanessaE for example don't use it to apply something on top of, say, bricks or cobble, because the mortar between the bricks, or the spaces between the cobblestones would be lower in height than the bricks/stones themselves.  If you just bluntly overlay another texture over it, it will look weird.
07:39 arsdragonfly how to fullscreen minetest without changing minetest.conf
07:39 VanessaE (it works for stone with various minerals because the stone is more or less an average height all the way across)
07:40 arsdragonfly iirc pressing f10(or 11?) worked long long ago
07:40 arsdragonfly before the formspec mainmenu was introduced
07:40 VanessaE arsdragonfly: never F10 (that's the chat console).  F11 works in some programs, don't recall seeing that working in Minetest though.
07:41 VanessaE I just maximize the window, myself.
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07:43 VanessaE think I'll hit the sheets now
07:43 VanessaE night all.
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08:13 Mimilus VanessaE, image and ^image need to have the same resolution, it that you mean, i've seen it
08:15 sfan5 Mimilus: I think you can resize them somehow
08:15 Mimilus VanessaE, i don't really see what you explain with shape ???
08:16 Mimilus sfan5, for resolution it's ok ,it just need more textures
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08:17 Mimilus VanessaE,  for example don't use it to apply something on top of, say, bricks or cobble, because the mortar between the bricks, or the spaces between the cobblestones would be lower in height than the bricks/stones themselves.  If you just bluntly overlay another texture over it, it will look weird. There is an order to respect, the last is the top of what we see, it that you want to say ?
08:18 Mimilus i have made some mossy node like this image node normal ^ image texture one ^ image texture two
08:19 Mimilus it works good
08:19 Mimilus just need to think that the last texture is the top texture of what wee see
08:20 Mimilus with ^ is it possible ti use an animated texture over an normal texture, or all need to be animated texture ?
08:28 sfan5 yes
08:29 sfan5 but the texture you are overlaying needs to have the exact same animation length as the other texture
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08:32 TenPlus1 Hi folks...
08:34 TenPlus1 has anyone seen BlockMen today ?
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08:35 PenguinDad ?? seen BlockMen
08:35 ShadowBot PenguinDad: I saw BlockMen in #minetest 2 days, 15 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds ago saying "holy shit: http://tiii.me/ 54:14:53 for me"
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08:36 TenPlus1 thx shadowbot
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08:58 IceCream ?? seen Jordach
08:58 ShadowBot IceCream: I saw Jordach in #minetest 9 hours, 27 minutes, and 33 seconds ago saying "(i'm tired for once :P )"
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08:59 sfan5 !seen Jordach
08:59 MinetestBot sfan5: jordach was last seen at 2014-05-09 23:30:46 UTC on #minetest
08:59 Zeno` err
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09:00 LiveEvil lol he leftugh
09:00 Zeno` ok
09:01 LiveEvil k pm me lol
09:01 Zeno` what would you like me to pm you with /msg LiveEvil *flowers* ?!
09:01 Zeno` lol
09:02 RedDog Aww. That was sweet :D
09:04 markveidemanis What's ShadowBot written in?
09:04 sfan5 python
09:05 markveidemanis Same as MinetestBot ...
09:05 markveidemanis I think it'd be something like perl or ruby
09:05 markveidemanis *thought :(
09:05 sfan5 >perl
09:05 sfan5 ugh
09:05 sfan5 pls no
09:05 LiveEvil hey sfan what happend to ur server?
09:05 LiveEvil this is OnceOver.....
09:06 sfan5 survival server or hunger games server?
09:06 LiveEvil aww you dont remember me do you
09:06 LiveEvil the one where i made the lava house under ground
09:06 sfan5 I do
09:06 sfan5 survival one
09:06 LiveEvil me alen12 and aren
09:06 sfan5 uhh
09:06 sfan5 it's been sleeping at /home/stefan/mtserver.tar.xz
09:06 LiveEvil lol
09:07 LiveEvil i been playing on a few others
09:07 LiveEvil do you got any other ones ?
09:07 sfan5 I don't really have the time to actively moderate a server
09:07 sfan5 I ran a hunger games server
09:07 LiveEvil i seen it
09:07 sfan5 but it crashed frequently and I haven't been able to work out why
09:07 LiveEvil i didnt like it cause i was only one there lol
09:08 LiveEvil i see your minetests are updated
09:08 sfan5 there were almost always people on it
09:08 LiveEvil i toook yours and a few others and smashed em together
09:08 LiveEvil some servers i load in 4 seconds
09:08 Zeno` where am I?
09:08 * Zeno` looks around confused
09:08 * sfan5 meows at Zeno`
09:09 Zeno` if someone mentioned Perl I'm outa here
09:09 LiveEvil i been playing on zenos server since urs gone
09:09 * sfan5 throws Python at Zeno`
09:09 Zeno` I suppose I'll accept Python
09:09 LiveEvil i got some privs on storms server but idk i dont like beast lol
09:09 Zeno` at least you can extend it with C in a sane manner
09:09 sfan5 ^
09:10 LiveEvil someday zeno will give me privs like you sfan
09:10 LiveEvil and like storm he will join the privs giving to OnceOver lol
09:11 LiveEvil i use to live on your server lol
09:11 LiveEvil fun times
09:11 Zeno` one day I'll just give up entirely and give someone root password
09:11 LiveEvil lol
09:11 LiveEvil is today that day
09:11 * LiveEvil ......
09:11 Zeno` no :)
09:11 * LiveEvil dies a lil inside
09:11 Zeno` maybe tomorrow
09:12 Zeno` heh
09:12 * TenPlus1 is confused by set_eye_offset numbers !?!?!?
09:12 LiveEvil k well nice  chatting with you sfan long time no see yada yada ima get off here chat at you another time
09:13 LiveEvil you can get off here zeno ty for helpin me out...
09:13 LiveEvil sorry for all pmz ppl sent you
09:13 Zeno` 'tis ok
09:13 Zeno` I am my sister
09:13 sfan5 uh
09:14 Zeno` they've all become quiet now, wondering who I am
09:16 Mimilus sfan5, ok thx
09:20 TenPlus1 Did anyone see Celeron55's Watershed flyby in youtube ?  landscape is amazing...
09:20 * sfan5 saw it
09:21 TenPlus1 if my wee pc was fast enough I'd do one of my own for Ethereal...
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09:23 TenPlus1_ browser crashed... thx Midori...
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09:26 * PenguinDad slaps the net for splitting
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09:33 * TenPlus1 wonders if theirs a way to show a mini version of the player, skin and all inside a formspec...??
09:35 diemartin TenPlus1, as a 3D model? no, but you can do as the skins mods out there and make a pre-rendered image for preview
09:36 TenPlus1 am trying to avoid that diemartin... my simple_skins mod uses a list to select your skin...  am trying to have it so you enter the formspec and you get a front view of your player, but the camera views dont wanna work for me
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09:36 TenPlus1 I wanted a live preview of the player itself
09:38 TenPlus1 or I could just leave it to the player themselves to press F7 for a front view before going into the skin change sccreen
09:52 TenPlus1 apart from a liquid node, is there any other way to SLOW down the walking speed of a player for say a cobweb node ??
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10:12 TenPlus1 cya folks...
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11:31 markveidemanis <3 MinetestBot
11:31 markveidemanis <3 ShadowBot
11:31 ShadowBot 04♥ markveidemanis.
11:31 markveidemanis I'l just copy the heart :P
11:35 whiskers75 ♥ markveidemanis
11:35 markveidemanis Woah
11:35 whiskers75 ♥ sfan5?
11:35 * whiskers75 has a macro
11:35 markveidemanis 1,5 hi
11:35 markveidemanis Nope
11:35 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
11:35 markveidemanis 5,1 hi
11:35 markveidemanis Screw it
11:35 whiskers75 what are you talking about again?
11:35 whiskers75 xD
11:36 whiskers75 12:36 -- CTCP reply from markveidemanis: VERSION I have no idea
11:36 whiskers75 D:
11:36 markveidemanis :P
11:36 markveidemanis I don't get the notification you ctcp'd me ...
11:37 whiskers75 markveidemanis: what IRC client are you using?
11:37 markveidemanis /ctcp markveidemanis BLARG
11:37 markveidemanis I use Hexchat
11:37 markveidemanis WIth ZNC
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12:04 Jordach nom nom nom
12:04 Jordach <3 Microwave foods
12:05 markveidemanis <3 ShadowBot
12:05 ShadowBot 04♥ markveidemanis.
12:05 markveidemanis I need the ascii again :P
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12:07 PenguinDad ♥ Rust
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12:12 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:12 Krock Hello
12:14 * markveidemanis ' bot is amazing now
12:15 markveidemanis but I need repr(4hi)
12:15 markveidemanis some \uredcolor
12:22 PenguinDad I give u red color
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12:23 markveidemanis I'm testing the bot on #mtmt
12:23 markveidemanis Red thing's don't work with ruby, ironically
12:24 markveidemanis I meant #mtcm
12:24 PenguinDad another red color
12:24 markveidemanis That's brown
12:25 PenguinDad It's red in weechat
12:26 Krock lILAC
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12:28 PenguinDad ♥ ,01Colors
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13:02 harrison i believe the new world order illuminati have taken over my irc client by infiltrating it with a chemtrail
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13:22 Megaf Hi all
13:22 Megaf 102m34.192s That's the time to compile minetest on a Pentium II
13:24 lordcirth Megaf, not bad.  better than LO or firefox by a long shot
13:25 crazyR__ does anyone know if this is the correct syntax foo.bar['test'] = 'bla' in lua      before that i have set foo = {} and foo.bar = {}
13:25 lordcirth crazyR__, yeah, that sounds right
13:26 crazyR__ hmm wonder why its failing then
13:26 FreeFull Megaf: Shows how much faster processors have gotten over the years
13:27 Megaf yep
13:28 Megaf well, mapgen is pretty damn slow
13:28 Megaf and server is quite laggy
13:28 Megaf using stock minetest_game and configuration
13:29 FreeFull A Raspberry Pi would probably be faster
13:29 Megaf It is much faster
13:29 Megaf I have a Raspberry Pi server running
13:29 Megaf for pixel art
13:29 Megaf ~up minetest.megaf.info 30002
13:29 ShadowBot Megaf: minetest.megaf.info port 30002 is up (606ms)
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13:43 Megaf hm
13:43 Megaf game play doesnt use a lot of Pentium II CPU, it uses only up to 14%
13:43 Megaf with on players
13:43 Megaf problem is mapgen
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14:02 lordcirth Megaf, yeah, mapgen is brutal.  But increasing RAM, if you can, might allow it to keep more loaded
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14:15 Megaf lordcirth: there's two thing that I see can really slow things down, even a 4 core 1,2 GHz ARM CPU
14:16 Megaf mapgen and actually loading generated map from disk to ram and sending it to clients
14:16 Megaf Those are minetestserver botlenecks
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14:55 crazyR__ si there any reason why this api would work on my local machine, but wont work on my server minetest.get_player_information
14:55 crazyR__ both are running the latest dev release
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14:57 sfan5 crazyR__: what is "this api"?
14:58 GhostDoge sfan5: minetest.get_player_information
14:58 crazyR__ its the minetest builtin api. or shouldnt really call it the api.    minetest.get_player_information is a core method as far as im aware
15:02 crazyR__ anyone know anything about it. ?
15:02 sfan5 not all clients send those information
15:04 crazyR__ the problem isnt with whats being sent, the problem is is doesnt seem to exist in my servers version for some reason, so then the server crashes
15:05 PenguinDad what's the exact error?
15:06 crazyR__ 1 moment, il dig throught the logs, its basicaly a nil error, the same as when you try to use a function that hasnt been defined
15:10 crazyR__ PenguinDad: attempt to call field 'get_player_information' (a nil value)    <-- thats the error
15:14 sfan5 hm
15:14 sfan5 IIRC the function only exists on debug builds
15:14 sfan5 what do you want to use it for?
15:15 crazyR__ ahh. that explains it, wanted to calculate the ping with it
15:15 crazyR__ player ping sorry
15:17 PenguinDad it exists in release builds too
15:17 crazyR__ hmm wierd
15:17 crazyR__ is there any other way to get the players avg_rtt
15:18 crazyR__ ie is it stored anywhere else
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15:19 PenguinDad crazyR__: https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/b​lob/player_info/builtin/playerinfo.lua#L52
15:20 crazyR__ thats where i got it from lol. its was in the pull requests if im right. the method above though should already exist :/
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15:27 Vazon !up 75.131.40.131
15:27 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (138ms)
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15:34 sfan5 o/ Calinou
15:35 PenguinDad https://gist.github.com/Peng​uinDad/1de868a817e9c455e8a6
15:35 PenguinDad ^ should be standard IMO
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15:36 sfan5 PenguinDad: do a pull request (for adding this to builtin), don't forget to add a setting
15:36 Calinou hi
15:37 Megaf__ Hi Calinou
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15:40 Vazon Hello Megaf
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15:48 _Megaf Hey Vazon
15:48 _Megaf How are things?
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15:57 Vazon good
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16:38 Calinou searched my bones for 15 mins, didn't find them
16:38 Calinou thank you guests
16:39 Calinou the death was stupid
16:40 Vazon lol what happened Calin?
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16:46 Vazon what does the bind address do in the config?
16:47 sfan5 if you bind to e.g. 192.168.2.105 you can only access the server from the network interface where your ip is 192.168.2.105
16:48 Calinou drowning while being AFK after connecting to a laggy server; I lost track of my bones
16:48 Vazon o well that doesnt help me :/ im using Vanessas restart code at first it couldnt find the config, i fixed that but know it wont show on the server list even tho i have server announce on
16:48 Vazon aww poor Calinou xD
16:50 Calinou had diamond sword and pick mostly
16:50 Calinou lots of dirt, wood and saplings
16:51 Vazon wow, what server was that?
16:56 Vazon finally i got the server list fixed
16:57 Calinou “just test”
16:57 * sfan5 meows at Calinou
17:00 Vazon soo sfan is a cat ... good to know a cat is smarter than me
17:01 sfan5 I'm a kitten
17:01 Vazon o well just make me feel worse lol
17:02 * EvergreenTree barks at sfan5
17:02 * sfan5 gives EvergreenTree a kitten
17:02 EvergreenTree :3
17:02 sfan5 :D
17:02 * PenguinDad squawks at Vazon
17:02 EvergreenTree brb, need to get something to eat before I starve myself
17:03 * Vazon squeaks back at PenguinDad
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17:19 Calinou an octocat
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17:22 Mikerhinos hi
17:23 john_minetest ()  [  '|'  ()  [  4  7
17:24 john_minetest ()  [  '|'  ()  [  /\  '|'
17:24 john_minetest Perfect
17:25 markveidemanis What the...
17:26 PenguinDad OCTOCAT :D
17:26 whiskers75 OCTOCAT! :d
17:26 * whiskers75 is an octocat
17:27 Calinou no, you're an octopony
17:27 whiskers75 NO
17:27 whiskers75 I AM AN OCTOCAT
17:27 whiskers75 :<
17:27 * whiskers75 meows indignantly
17:27 Vazon can someone tell me how to stop runtime errors please? they keep crashing my server
17:28 PenguinDad whiskers75: you are this octopony https://octodex.github.com/tw​enty-percent-cooler-octocat/ ;)
17:28 whiskers75 NO
17:28 whiskers75 I
17:28 whiskers75 AM
17:28 whiskers75 04NOT AN OCTOPONY
17:28 whiskers75 03I'm a codercat!
17:29 whiskers75 04NOT AN OCTOPONY
17:29 whiskers75 03a codercat!
17:29 PenguinDad a coderpony!
17:29 whiskers75 ಠ_ಠ
17:29 * whiskers75 slaps PenguinDad around a bit with a Calinou!
17:30 whiskers75 04NOT AN OCTOPONY
17:30 whiskers75 04NOT AN CODERPONY
17:31 john_minetest YOU ARE AN      ()  [  '|'  ()  |*  ()  /|/   '/
17:32 john_minetest !rainbow   ()  [  '|'  ()  |*  ()  /|/   '/
17:32 MinetestBot 44 4 7(7)7 8 8[8 3 3'3|'  6(6)6  |*4 4 4(7)7 7 8/8|8/3 3 3 '/
17:32 markveidemanis ~tell john_minetest quit it
17:32 john_minetest yay
17:32 ShadowBot markveidemanis: O.K.
17:32 john_minetest Rainbow is always legit.
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17:59 whiskers75 PLS
18:00 whiskers75 MY RAINBOW IS BETTER THAN YOURS
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18:01 sfan5 whiskers75: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules send pull pls
18:01 whiskers75 sfan5: lolno
18:02 whiskers75 sfan5: just go to weechat.org's script repos and find prism.py
18:02 sfan5 no u
18:02 whiskers75 and yank out the rainbow generator
18:04 Calinou I closed Firefox (Ctrl+Q) and opened it again, it kept my stuff
18:04 whiskers75 firefox?
18:04 whiskers75 ew
18:05 sfan5 ^
18:06 harrison memehopper
18:06 whiskers75 chromium <3
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18:09 harrison you cannot stop the meme that hops
18:09 Calinou Chromium is not perfect privacy-wise
18:10 Calinou it's also not really “in advance” compared to Firefox
18:12 NekoGloop !rainbow I HATE MYSELF
18:12 MinetestBot 4I4 4H7A7T7E8 8M8Y3S3E3LF
18:16 cups !r4ai8nb9ow weeee4ee8e
18:16 cups D:
18:16 cups !rainbow weeee4ee8e
18:16 MinetestBot 44​14​17w77​18​28e8e33​13​3ee6​46e6e13​8e
18:16 whiskers75 pls
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18:31 ShadowNinja Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks/blo​b/master/stairsplus/registrations.lua#L32  Add "if k ~= "wood" and k ~= "stone" then ... end" or the like here.
18:31 ShadowNinja Along with a comment describing why those groups are ignored.
18:33 Calinou thanks!
18:34 Vazon arg this is such a pain
18:40 Calinou this is such a bread
18:41 john_minetest 09WOOHOOO!
18:41 john_minetest Oh, wait, bad color.
18:41 john_minetest 90Now THIS is a cool color.
18:42 john_minetest Omg, I can close firefox with Ctrl-Q?
18:43 john_minetest Cool, I'll maybe use it. Or maybe just ctrl-shift-e as usual.
18:43 markveidemanis 1,1Bull2,2fucking3,3shit
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18:47 Megaf blah blah blein
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18:49 markveidemanis i like red
18:49 Megaf best video clip ever! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ttTaDZPuvw
18:49 sfan5 !title
18:49 MinetestBot sfan5: Gigi D&#39;Agostino - Bla Bla Bla (16:9 HD) /1999/ - YouTube
18:49 Megaf best lyrics ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DcfXVL0mh0
18:49 Megaf !title
18:49 MinetestBot Megaf: Gigi D&#39; Agostino: The Riddle - YouTube
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18:58 ShadowNinja Calinou: Put the comment on a seperate line, otherwise it's too long.
19:00 ShadowNinja Calinou: O_O what happened to my commit?
19:02 ShadowNinja Calinou: D-: You commited it as yourself.
19:05 Vazon is anyone familiar with VanessaE restart code, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com​/vanessa/hobbies/minetest.html ?
19:07 ShadowNinja Vazon: VanessaE probably is.
19:07 ShadowNinja ;-)
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19:07 Vazon i could have figured that out xD
19:11 Vazon well maby you could help me shadow, the problem is that it runs but you cant join like it cant find the config
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19:15 Calinou Compressed Map Tools textures, added pure black and white blocks, added ignore-like blocks.
19:15 Calinou ShadowNinja, yes, I added it by myself
19:15 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/hoRChu1
19:15 Calinou ShadowNinja, I'd rather not put the comment on another line, it could be poorly interpreted?
19:16 Calinou is going over 80 characters really problematic anyway?
19:16 Calinou (116 in this case)
19:21 ShadowNinja Calinou: Yes, it doesn't even fit in the window, and it won't show up if you have two files upened up side-by-side.  Put it on the previous line, comments always refer to the next line(s) if their line is empty.
19:22 ShadowNinja Calinou: I would prefer if you used `git commit -m 'Rewrite' --author 'ShadowNinja <shadowninja@minetest.net>'`
19:23 ShadowNinja Or used git am on a patch file, or actually merging the branch (--ff-only).
19:23 Calinou heh, the 116 chars exactly fit in GitHub preview
19:24 ShadowNinja It can still be changed, but making everyone force-pull if no fun.
19:25 Calinou done
19:25 Calinou sorry, I could have used that commit to attribute you
19:25 Calinou forgot
19:26 * Vazon beats his head on the wall
19:28 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org
19:28 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 seems to be down
19:29 Vazon !up 75.131.40.131
19:29 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 seems to be down
19:29 Vazon _._
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19:34 Vazon :D part one down
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19:36 hoodedice Hello miners
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19:36 hoodedice So today, I came across this:
19:37 hoodedice " Visual Studio is generally known as the best development IDE out there "
19:37 ShadowNinja Hahahahahahaha.
19:37 Vazon !up 75.131.40.131
19:37 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (134ms)
19:38 ShadowNinja <3 vim.
19:38 Vazon OMG finally!
19:38 hoodedice I use Notepad++ personally, but all I ever did with it was mess with MT mod code
19:38 Vazon and the runtimeout errors are back -.-
19:38 hoodedice I'll be most probably using Eclipse for java next semester, and VS for C on the semester after that
19:38 hoodedice Vazon, what errors?
19:39 Vazon what causes runtimeout errors??
19:40 hoodedice Vazn, which minetest are you using, and which server are you connecting to?
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19:40 Vazon 15:37:45: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(6/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 3 has timed out. (source=peer ->timeout_counter) and this is my server and i get those errors and they crash the srver
19:40 PenguinDad hoodedice: Geany is nice
19:41 hoodedice Minetest version?
19:41 Vazon 0.4.9 dev
19:41 Vazon it says that in my terminal as i run the server
19:42 hoodedice I've never seen that one before =/ ( Pinging ShadowNinja )
19:42 Calinou <hoodedice> " Visual Studio is generally known as the best development IDE out there "
19:42 Calinou don't you agree? ;)
19:42 hoodedice I never really used VS
19:42 hoodedice This was on the Unity3D forums/community asking forum
19:43 Calinou oh, not surprised
19:43 Vazon wait are runtimeouts cause by mods?
19:43 hoodedice And it was followed by " if someone tells you otherwise, they're either misinformed, or fanboys of some other tool. Or just hate MS or non-open source."
19:43 hoodedice netsplits again?!
19:45 PenguinDad Vazon: Timeouts are from clients that time out
19:45 Megaf !up 75.131.40.131
19:45 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (139ms)
19:45 blaise can anyone connect to my minetest server at midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org ?
19:45 Vazon but every time someone logs in i get on and sometimes 1-6 from one person and it just crashes hte server
19:46 ShadowNinja hoodedice: Never seen what?
19:46 Megaf !up 75.131.40.131
19:46 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (137ms)
19:46 Vazon and megaf is creeping lol
19:46 hoodedice The error Vazon got
19:47 Vazon its up right now but with only me on it and i got a error from you as well mefag
19:47 hoodedice brb
19:47 Megaf !up 75.131.40.131
19:47 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (140ms)
19:47 Vazon you ahvent joined yet Megaf but i do see it in the terminal which is frozen cause ofthe timeouts
19:47 Megaf first world wouldnt load and now it stays in connecting to server
19:48 Megaf Vazon: is you server update?
19:48 Vazon server is 0.4.9 dev
19:48 Megaf Vazon: restart it with ctrl c
19:48 Megaf it wont come back soon
19:48 Megaf not on itself
19:49 Vazon yes i know i need to know how to fix it so it will come up
19:49 Calinou <hoodedice> And it was followed by " if someone tells you otherwise, they're either misinformed, or fanboys of some other tool. Or just hate MS or non-open source."
19:49 Calinou this shows the mentality of Unity3D users
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19:49 Vazon ok \
19:49 Vazon !up 75.131.40.131
19:49 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (133ms)
19:50 Vazon lol no has even joined and i got a runtime error
19:50 Megaf eh
19:50 Megaf Vazon: later on I will help you out, I gtg now
19:50 Megaf cya
19:50 Vazon cya
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19:57 ShadowNinja Vazon: That shouldn't cause a crash, and you can ignore it.
19:57 Vazon well it crashes it
19:57 Vazon after i get those errors it just stops broadcasting
19:58 Vazon even if i remove all the mods it still does it
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20:00 sapier Vazon: do you use latest git?
20:01 Vazon i compiled it from https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=3837 last night so i believe so
20:01 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/ywAafzC
20:02 sapier when did you compile?
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20:02 sapier I ask because I fixed a bug causing timeouts as well as hang some days ago
20:02 Vazon last night like 11pm?
20:03 sapier ok in this case you should have latest version
20:03 Vazon any idea how to fix this?
20:04 sapier hmm I guess you don't have experience in using gdb?
20:05 sapier you're on linux aren't you?
20:05 Vazon nope and yes
20:05 sapier can you reproduce that issue?
20:05 Vazon yes it happens every time like clock work :D
20:05 Calinou gdb (program name): type “run”: when it crashes, type “bt”, to quit, type “quit”
20:05 Calinou bt gives backtrace
20:06 Vazon its on different computer than this one tho
20:06 PenguinDad s/bt/bt full/
20:06 sapier better to "thread apply all bt" ... that's gonna give a backtrace of all stacks
20:06 sapier bt full too?
20:07 Vazon ummmm can you guys speak english till i learn how to understand you please :)
20:07 sapier :-) ok try to get minetest in that state and then I'm gonna tell you step by step
20:08 Vazon in the error state?
20:08 sapier you said it doesn't react ?
20:08 Vazon yes
20:08 sapier that's the error state ;-)
20:08 Vazon one sec
20:12 Vazon ok done
20:12 sapier ok now get another console on your minetest server
20:12 sapier I understood you run minetest server on a different machine, am I wrong about that?
20:12 Vazon so open another terminal and start it again?
20:13 sapier no don't start minetest again just another terminal
20:13 Vazon k
20:13 sapier enter "ps" there and find the line with minetestserver in it
20:13 sapier or do you play singleplayer?
20:13 Vazon server
20:13 Vazon and there isnt one just bash and ps
20:14 sapier that terminal is on same machine as your minetestserver?
20:14 Vazon yes
20:14 sapier wait do you run server from gui?
20:14 Vazon meaning?? i just put a code in the terminal and it runs the server
20:15 markveidemanis ~rainbow hi
20:15 ShadowBot markveidemanis: hi
20:15 sapier ok try "ps auxw"
20:15 Vazon ok found it
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20:16 sapier ok find the pid, it's the first number in that line
20:16 Vazon the 4787?
20:16 sfan5 sapier: next time use pgrep minetestserver
20:16 sapier possible, that number is always different
20:17 Vazon ok well thats the first number
20:18 sapier give me a second to find the exact command
20:18 Vazon 5.8
20:19 sapier "gdb attach 4787" should do
20:19 Vazon type that?
20:19 Calinou hi markveidemanis, don't abuse bot, pleased
20:20 sapier yes
20:20 markveidemanis Calinou, One_Message
20:20 markveidemanis If that's a request then sure
20:20 Vazon its a bunch of copyrights
20:20 Vazon and now my command line says gdb
20:21 Vazon (gdb)*
20:21 Calinou type “run”?
20:21 sapier ok then thread apply all bt
20:21 sapier Calinou: he attached to a running process
20:21 sapier "thread apply all bt"
20:22 Vazon no symbol table is loaded. use the file command
20:22 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org
20:22 sapier ahh
20:22 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 seems to be down
20:22 sapier you did a release build?
20:22 blaise GAH DAMNAH!!!#$@#%$@$^#^@#%
20:22 * sfan5 throws a fluffy kitten toy at blaise
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20:22 Vazon release build?
20:22 * blaise eats said fluffy kitten, and toy
20:23 sapier do a "cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug" and rebuild minetest
20:23 Vazon i wont lose my files will it?
20:23 sfan5 no
20:24 Vazon undefined command "cmake"
20:24 sfan5 uhh
20:24 markveidemanis cmake . then all tht crap
20:24 sfan5 install cmake
20:24 sapier exit gdb firs
20:24 sfan5 or that
20:24 Vazon ok
20:24 markveidemanis Looks like you don't have it though
20:25 markveidemanis Vazon, What OS?
20:25 Calinou -Vazon- VERSION qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; Trident/6.0; .NET4.0E; .NET4.0C; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; HPDTDFJS)
20:25 sfan5 uhh
20:25 Calinou Windows 8 on the machine he uses for IRC ;)
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20:26 markveidemanis ! give up
20:26 markveidemanis Oops
20:26 sapier please read only a few lines up his server is on linux
20:26 markveidemanis Too much bots
20:27 Vazon CMake Error: the source directorty '/home/kodie" does not appear to contain CMakeList.txt
20:27 blaise I can't believe my server isn't reachable via WAN
20:27 blaise :(
20:27 * blaise rips his hair out
20:27 markveidemanis LAN?
20:27 Vazon yes i used linux for the server cause its way better but this computer is new so i would rather not gunk it up yet so i just use it for this and playing
20:27 blaise WAN
20:27 markveidemanis Or you meant mobile
20:27 markveidemanis yeah
20:28 blaise no,
20:28 blaise Wide Area Network
20:28 blaise aka, the internet
20:28 sapier you need to enter the directory of your minetestserver vazon
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20:29 blaise what ever a person has for internet connection, dsl, cable, fiber.. when you connect that to a router the router considers that a WAN connection
20:29 * kaeza implants new hair on blaise
20:29 kaeza evenings all
20:29 markveidemanis Vazon, open a command line and type uname -a
20:29 markveidemanis Mobile is a Wide Area...
20:29 markveidemanis ok lol
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20:29 sfan5 Vazon: cd into the minest directory
20:29 sfan5 !rainbow THE INTERNET!
20:29 MinetestBot 4T4H4E7 7I7N8T8E8R3N3E3T!
20:29 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Use "core" namespace internally c4359ff65c 2014-05-08T13:02:04-04:00 http://git.io/0PweOQ
20:29 blaise wuitevs.. lmao
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20:30 blaise markveidemanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_area_network
20:30 blaise markveidemanis: you fail.
20:30 markveidemanis erm..
20:30 markveidemanis 9 messages in 2 sec
20:30 markveidemanis ZNC is feeling the pressure
20:30 Vazon um you guys just confused me
20:30 sfan5 markveidemanis: sapier is already helping him, it does not make sense when you start helping him now too
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20:31 * markveidemanis replaces packet with pocket and marks it Edit Type
20:31 markveidemanis *YTPO
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20:32 markveidemanis nvm
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20:32 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^ MTB skipped one of the commits.
20:32 ShadowNinja BBL
20:33 ShadowNinja Just as I was thinking of doing that.  :-)
20:34 ShadowNinja SmugLeaf: PM an op when you're sure your connection is stable.
20:34 * sfan5 meows
20:34 * VanessaE hides
20:36 hoodedice lel
20:37 hoodedice okay ppl, got some newer apps
20:37 hoodedice https://play.google.com/store/ap​ps/details?id=lv.games.freecraft
20:37 hoodedice https://play.google.com/store/app​s/details?id=lv.games.worldcraft
20:38 hoodedice sfan5: Are you still working on MT4droid?
20:38 sfan5 ugh
20:38 sfan5 yes
20:39 VanessaE sapier: you're up :P
20:39 harrison 01,09vote memehopper!
20:40 VanessaE I wonder how long until someone takes my dreambuilder game and bundles it with ..whatever they call the underlying "engine" if not Minetest. (buildcraft, etc)
20:40 hoodedice Oh dear, it appears Xanadu changed hands
20:42 Amaz_ VanessaE: I don't think your dreambuilder game would work very well on a phone/tablet. It barely runs on my laptop!
20:43 sfan5 hoodedice: http://dev.minetest.net/Android#Gett​ing_stuff_to_work_without_libCrystax
20:43 VanessaE heh
20:43 Calinou hoodedice, get Mojang to sue them ;) the use of “craft” is not so legit
20:43 VanessaE it ain't meant for anemic devices :)
20:43 hoodedice If Mojang sued them for that
20:44 hoodedice Then, I think King.com is perfectly alright for trying to sue "Banner Saga" for "Saga"
20:44 sfan5 hoodedice: a DMCA is most cost-effective
20:44 hoodedice lol
20:44 harrison i like to think that in a small way, i have helped to put the me in meme
20:44 harrison and the meme in 01,09memehopper
20:44 hoodedice oy, loos at this! https://play.google.com/store/apps/​details?id=com.mineblockcraft.game
20:44 hoodedice lawl
20:44 hoodedice Someone, please kick harrison
20:45 harrison help i am being oppressed
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20:48 hoodedice *Sigh* Only MT server I played on, and now it's full of kids, noobs, and worst of all
20:49 hoodedice The map reset, and the actual sever owner fought with the mod dev
20:49 hoodedice *shakes head*
20:50 PilzAdam !kick hoodedice Don't attaack harrison
20:50 hoodedice was kicked by MinetestBot: Don't attaack harrison
20:50 * PilzAdam votes for the memehopper
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20:50 hoodedice_ "attaack"
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20:51 hoodedice_ Hello BlockMen
20:51 BlockMen hi hoodedice_
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20:52 harrison thank you PilzAdam
20:52 Amaz_ So has the map on Xanadu been reset?
20:54 hoodedice_ ya
20:55 hoodedice_ And I get repeatedly kicked off for asking what went wrong
20:55 FreeFull D:
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20:55 FreeFull What
20:55 hoodedice_ I'm not gonna play there anymore, and I don't think I'll find any other server like that
20:55 FreeFull I liked Xanadu
20:55 FreeFull I really did
20:55 FreeFull I was starting my house there ):
20:55 hoodedice_ FreeFull, I managed a town
20:56 hoodedice_ "town"
20:56 hoodedice_ Along with Amaz_
20:56 Amaz_ That's a shame... I liked your town.
20:56 EvergreenTree ohai hoodedice_
20:56 FreeFull )L
20:56 hoodedice_ Hi EvergreenTree
20:56 FreeFull ):
20:56 * Jordach should really setup a BFD server :3
20:56 Amaz_ Jordach: Yes!
20:56 * sfan5 throws server hardware at Jordach
20:56 hoodedice_ Can someone kick hoodedice
20:56 sfan5 hoodedice_: /ns ghost hoodedice
20:57 hoodedice Thank you, sfan
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20:58 hoodedice what the?
20:58 hoodedice I'm sorry for that everyone
20:59 harrison you should be sorry for trying to oppress me
20:59 harrison words can jurt
20:59 harrison hurt
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21:00 Jordach VanessaE, you can kill this fucker now if you like
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21:01 markveidemanis hi hoodedice
21:01 Jordach feel tree to read this
21:01 Jordach https://xkcd.com/1357/
21:01 PilzAdam hoodedice, harrison feels offended by your recent action(s); please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop/
21:01 hoodedice hahahahahaahaha
21:01 hoodedice rofl
21:01 twoelk proller?
21:02 hoodedice Dude, that IS going in the book lol
21:03 hoodedice Jordach:  Was that directed at me?
21:03 Jordach not you, harrison
21:04 Jordach brb - attempting to get a working ubuntu install
21:04 hoodedice kk
21:05 Vazon !up 75.131.40.131
21:05 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (132ms)
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21:12 Jordach does this look like the face of MERCY? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/6BUlDQJjWgvG.png
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21:14 sfan5 oh god
21:14 sfan5 Jordach: don't tell you plan to use ubuntu?
21:14 markveidemanis Web IRC
21:14 Jordach only thing i can use :P
21:14 markveidemanis ARRGGGHHH
21:15 EvergreenTree unity is better than no linux at all
21:15 sfan5 but much much worse than xfce or kde
21:16 VanessaE XFCE Is Your Friend™
21:16 VanessaE :)
21:16 hoodedice Windows 8 Metro
21:16 hoodedice Wait, lemme do that agian
21:17 Jordach hopefully, this install should go well
21:18 Amaz_ Jordach: But, but Windows is much better! http://www.shamusyoung.com​/twentysidedtale/?p=18309
21:18 hoodedice http://imgur.com/g/memes/UbdtUlu
21:19 Calinou VanessaE, Xfce*
21:19 * Jordach jumps into hell
21:19 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/BrL_tQy8g0s7.png
21:19 EvergreenTree I think unity is the only thing he can use
21:19 Calinou is this 14.04, Jordach?
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21:19 Calinou window corners don't seem to be anti-aliased
21:19 EvergreenTree no, It's 13.10 I think
21:20 Calinou :'(
21:20 Calinou it'll be EOL in less than 3 months
21:20 Jordach suddenly: auto update
21:20 Calinou VanessaE, I updated to 14.04 the day after release :P
21:20 Calinou Jordach, there's no automatic upgrades at all
21:20 Calinou the automatic updates are only partial
21:20 Jordach dist-upg then
21:20 hoodedice Jordach
21:20 hoodedice ONE DOES NOT SCREENSHOT WHILE IN QUERY
21:21 * sfan5 purrs at hoodedice
21:21 VanessaE Calinou: just last night for me.  I waited a while until the NFS v3 vs. v4 stuff was sorted out.
21:21 * Jordach purrs at sfan5
21:21 * sfan5 meows
21:21 * sfan5 goes to bed
21:21 hoodedice byw
21:21 hoodedice *bye
21:21 VanessaE oh heh
21:21 Calinou I noticed, when upgrading to 13.10, that Minetest works just fine with Irrlicht 1.8(.1) now
21:21 VanessaE screenshot of the chat, derp
21:21 Calinou it used to be very buggy
21:21 Jordach if everything goes well, i'll be in a working Ubuntu
21:21 Calinou (when I first started playing)
21:22 hoodedice VanessaE, who pisses you off?
21:22 hoodedice (lel)
21:22 VanessaE hoodedice: no comment. :P
21:23 Jordach i can finally properly develop BFD without the mass copy and pasting from folder to folder when i can just link the folder elsewhere
21:23 Jordach develop in git, play from git
21:23 Calinou I never managed to compile anything on Windows
21:24 Jordach ikr :P
21:24 Calinou night :)
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21:25 Jordach hey WindHero
21:25 WindHero hey Jordach
21:25 WindHero I listened, and got hexchat
21:25 Jordach ;D
21:25 VanessaE Jordach: after you get used to it, you'll wonder how you got by with Windows
21:25 Jordach that's more like it
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21:26 WindHero also, made a skin and uploaded it to that one database linked to on the forums
21:26 hoodedice > Hexchat
21:26 hoodedice Crash in three... two... one...
21:26 WindHero nope
21:26 Jordach http://no.pe
21:27 * Jordach cries a little
21:27 Jordach GIMP 2.8
21:27 WindHero also, have 2 GB of data to blow today, whoohoo
21:27 Calinou for the win
21:27 Calinou I got fully used to it since… late 2012
21:27 WindHero GIMP! :D
21:27 Jordach http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
21:27 Calinou please don't link to shock sites
21:27 Calinou bye now
21:27 Jordach bullshit :P
21:27 VanessaE seeua
21:27 VanessaE seeya
21:28 Jordach (i always check me fucking links Calinou )
21:28 * Calinou encases himself in maptools:ignore_like
21:28 markveidemanis 7 sec...
21:28 EvergreenTree Something offtopic: I always am afraid to say anything in a new channel
21:28 Jordach explains #minecraft then
21:28 EvergreenTree last time I asked a legitimate question, I got a link to a p*rn website
21:28 VanessaE Jordach: same with GIMP.  once you're used to 2.8, 2.6 will seem really crusty.  with the exception of that whole save-versus-export bullshit.  that WAS a mistake :P
21:28 Jordach VanessaE: and that's why i'll be backporting
21:29 Calinou Map Tools got a few new stuff recently: nodes available in walkable and non-walkable variants, pointable and non-pointable variants of “ignore-like” node as well as pure black and white nodes
21:29 Jordach FUCK modern software
21:29 Calinou it was not a mistake
21:29 Calinou all the video editing software does it
21:29 Calinou Blender does it
21:29 Jordach BULL
21:29 Jordach BULLSHIT.
21:29 Calinou really, it makes more sense
21:29 VanessaE Calinou: it was, because the fucking thing can't decide to just re-export/re-save the file when I started from a PNG
21:29 Jordach nobody uses the export image keys
21:29 VanessaE if I open a PNG, by G*d I meant to save it back to a PNG!
21:29 Calinou VanessaE, some OS X builds fix that, indeed
21:29 Calinou oh also, you can use “EraseX
21:29 Calinou “Erase”*, sadly there's no shortcut for it
21:30 EvergreenTree VanessaE: not always
21:30 Calinou (but maybe you can create one? I read that somewhere, that you can do that, depending on your desktop environment)
21:30 * Jordach also prefers the floating toolbox
21:30 VanessaE if I wanted to save to a .xcf, I'll save to a .xcf, stup fucking questioning me ON. EVERY. FUCKING. SAVE. ACTION.
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21:30 WindHero My only gripe with GIMP
21:30 VanessaE stop*
21:30 Calinou “Overwrite <image>” in File menu
21:30 VanessaE Jordach: oh un-docking stuff was easy enough, I got my UI back the way I like it.
21:30 WindHero is that it sometimes fails to come to focus when I click it on the toolbar
21:30 EvergreenTree Jordach: you really prefer the floating toolbox?
21:30 Calinou VanessaE, ^
21:30 VanessaE Calinou: doesn't work on the first overwrite.
21:31 Jordach EvergreenTree: photoshop should not be fucking copied
21:31 EvergreenTree I love the one windows mode
21:31 Calinou separating save and export is more a good thing than a bad one
21:31 EvergreenTree Jordach: I know
21:31 VanessaE Calinou: it *still* prompts you no less than TWICE on that overwrite.
21:31 Calinou if done right
21:31 Calinou the behaviour of it is being worked on in 2.10
21:31 EvergreenTree I don't know why everyone is still complaining about it
21:31 BlockMen Calinou, why dont you base carbone officially on _next?
21:31 Jordach BECAUSE. THEY. FUCKED. UP.
21:31 BlockMen (since you nearly added all from next) :P
21:31 WindHero http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#!page:1,filtertype:Id,filter:276
21:31 Jordach BlockMen: Calinou is a beast
21:32 EvergreenTree Jordach: but are they going to change it back because of you complaining?
21:32 Calinou BlockMen, it's not a fork of anything 1) because I screwed up on the old repos 2) because of other technical reasons
21:32 VanessaE file -> overwrite --> gives filename prompt --> oops, do you really wanna overwrite THAT file?  --> select PNG settings
21:32 VanessaE BULLSHIT
21:32 Calinou 3) it has no real use, I merge stuff by hand for such a large thing
21:32 Jordach WindHero: tell me later
21:32 WindHero If only GIMP hadn't separated Export and Save
21:32 Calinou I'd like a way to not make PNG/JPG settings appear
21:32 EvergreenTree complain about it once, and stop.  I hate listening to complaining about something that I already have heard a million times before
21:32 Jordach i'll give it some of my shading skills :P
21:32 Calinou WindHero, there are builds that do that
21:32 BlockMen Calinou, ;)
21:32 Calinou this is like asking for a Start Menu in Windows 8…
21:32 Jordach quote of the week!
21:33 Calinou EvergreenTree, usually, that's the thing to do
21:33 WindHero I've gotten used to it...
21:33 Calinou me too
21:33 EvergreenTree Fine, I'll stop complaining about you complaining
21:33 EvergreenTree :p
21:33 Jordach MY LITERARY MIND hates it when people use ... at the end of a sentence when the should not be
21:33 WindHero my bad
21:33 EvergreenTree oCd much?
21:33 Jordach it makes it sound like somethings coming
21:33 EvergreenTree yeah, it bothers me too
21:33 Jordach when there fucking isn't going to be
21:33 PenguinDad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c10gBOEVdt8
21:34 WindHero the internet does that to people.
21:34 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix healthbar not beeing hidden on disabled damage c8aed03ace 2014-05-10T23:32:25+02:00 http://git.io/R9mR7A
21:34 PenguinDad ooops
21:34 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/pVqro4OngxQ4.png :D :D :D
21:34 Jordach be right fucking back!
21:35 WindHero UBUNTU
21:35 WindHero nice
21:35 lordcirth Jordach, installing Ubuntu? interesting
21:35 PenguinDad https://cdn.mediacru.sh/J56WHDA_CCej.png skin db faill :D
21:36 EvergreenTree he is because he (had to?  driver issues I think) use windows
21:36 WindHero loads perfectly fine here
21:36 BlockMen Jordach, OS hopping?
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21:37 Jordach_ bam
21:37 EvergreenTree windows now?
21:37 Jordach_ nope.avi
21:38 Jordach_ and why would i be using webchat
21:38 EvergreenTree ah
21:38 WindHero one does not simply.... have HexChat already installed on a fresh OS
21:39 sfan5 Jordach: mkv pls
21:41 WindHero I came *this* close to installing a hackintosh when I put an SSD in my laptop
21:41 WindHero Sadly passed it up and got stuck with Win8
21:41 Jordach_ finally i can keep up with GIT Minetest without relying on BlockMen ;)
21:42 WindHero :D
21:42 Jordach_ severing reliance helps soooooooooooo much
21:42 EvergreenTree definitely
21:43 EvergreenTree linking is one of the most useful things aboyut linux
21:43 BlockMen Jordach_, yay. finally enjoying all bugs
21:43 BlockMen :P
21:43 Jordach_ LET'S FIX ALL THE BUGS!
21:43 WindHero The only negative thing about Minetest for me...
21:43 Jordach_ is being tied to a build maintainer
21:43 WindHero is that it has distracted me from continuing to make an Android game
21:44 lordcirth WindHero, why not Linux?
21:44 WindHero because n00b
21:44 lordcirth lol
21:44 lordcirth WindHero, if you can install hackintosh, you can install linux
21:44 WindHero I didn't say I actually installed hackintosh
21:44 WindHero I read how to do it
21:45 WindHero but didn't want to pay money for a sketchy venture
21:45 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/5jqlYYt
21:45 lordcirth WindHero, but you said you were considering
21:45 hoodedice ^See first comment
21:45 WindHero brb
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21:59 jojo_ Hi
21:59 jin_xi hi
22:00 jojo_ How r you
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22:06 WindHero back
22:06 WindHero that took much longer than I expected
22:08 Jordach hey WindHero, just installed my AMD drivers
22:08 WindHero sweet
22:08 WindHero you're using an AMD processor then?
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22:10 Exio4 drivers for a CPU?
22:10 Exio4 wtf is this
22:11 HeroOfTheWinds AMD :P
22:11 EvergreenTree Exio4: it's an apu
22:11 Exio4 you'll be installing the drivers for the gpu or what
22:11 Jordach STEAM! https://cdn.mediacru.sh/9BFDxMnJWQ-y.png
22:12 HeroOfTheWinds I should have registered WindHero, then I could use /ghost
22:15 WindHero there, now that won't happen again
22:16 WindHero Jordach, would you mind if I added a wheat field biome similar to yours into my skylands mod?
22:16 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix possible deadlock in error conditions f76b9d724b 2014-05-11T00:14:57+02:00 http://git.io/ZNJkdA
22:16 Jordach WindHero, Yarp
22:16 Jordach also; FC bro
22:17 WindHero "Yarp" as in "go ahead" or as in "Yarp, I do mind"?
22:20 Jordach option 1 :D
22:20 WindHero :D
22:20 WindHero thanks!
22:21 WindHero is yours generated based on humidity/temp, or regular perlin noise?
22:21 Jordach option 1 :D
22:21 WindHero great
22:22 WindHero I'm doing a huge overhaul on the biomes for the islands
22:22 Jordach i've just noticed that Steam shows only games that works for Linux :D
22:22 WindHero I would hope they would do that
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22:26 * Jordach just noticed Portal 2 for Linux
22:26 Jordach W00T
22:27 WindHero Christmas in May?
22:31 PenguinDad WindHero: Australia :P
22:31 WindHero lol
22:32 john_minetest W00T!
22:32 john_minetest Can I get portal 2 for linux if I got the windows one?
22:32 Jordach john_minetest, YES.
22:32 PenguinDad YESH SIR!
22:32 john_minetest OMGWTFBBQ!
22:33 WindHero that's... a new one
22:33 Jordach john_minetest, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bUIlsSUjz2tD.png
22:34 MegAFK Vazon: ping
22:34 MegAFK !up 75.131.40.131
22:34 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (136ms)
22:34 john_minetest Now I can finally play with full FPS and in HD!
22:35 Vazon megafk im working with sapier
22:35 Vazon hold on
22:35 Jordach john_minetest, just hope for OpenGL 3.3x
22:35 john_minetest (I don't waste good hardware for windows)
22:36 john_minetest I got that proprietary nvidia libgl.
22:36 BlockMen gd night
22:36 WindHero 'night!
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22:38 Megaf Vazon: you sutted it down or just crashed?
22:38 Vazon megaf  a mix of miner_48er, VanessaE and sapiers help and no sapier did
22:39 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
22:39 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (494ms)
22:39 Megaf I can't connect to my server :S
22:39 WindHero ?!
22:39 Vazon lol thats no good
22:39 WindHero that's just wrong
22:40 Megaf WindHero: can you connect to it?
22:40 WindHero I'll try
22:40 Megaf by they, good stuff you built there
22:40 Megaf by the way*
22:40 WindHero thanks, haven't done much yet
22:41 WindHero nothing at all in the city...
22:41 WindHero can't connect either :(
22:41 Megaf weird
22:41 Megaf I see in the log there's people there, and talking
22:41 Megaf and pipeworks working
22:41 WindHero could the port have changed? (noob question)
22:42 Megaf nope
22:42 john_minetest Wow, such awesome, very portal, much steam.
22:42 Megaf well, shuting it down
22:42 WindHero oh
22:42 WindHero could the max player connections be reached?
22:42 john_minetest Jordach: I played 42 hours of portal
22:43 john_minetest cya
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22:45 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
22:45 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (469ms)
22:45 Megaf done
22:45 Megaf WindHero: pipeworks just killing the CPU
22:45 WindHero D:
22:46 WindHero I'm pretty sure I shut mine off
22:46 WindHero I wish you could set more than one /home
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22:47 Megaf heh
22:47 Megaf bah, I miss the time when minetest was trully lightweight
22:47 Megaf it just so heavy no a days
22:47 Megaf and slow
22:48 Megaf we need powerful and fast hardware as workaround of a badly writen piece of software
22:48 Megaf I have lots of lag, theres only two players
22:48 Megaf and Im in a local connection
22:48 WindHero I've got the lag too
22:49 WindHero so wait, you saw the home I built in the village?
22:49 Megaf yes I did
22:49 Megaf the roof is missing
22:49 WindHero yeah
22:49 Megaf so far so good
22:49 WindHero I can't decide between stone, wood, or shingles
22:50 Megaf I would use a mix of stone and cobble
22:50 WindHero the lag is too heavy, logged off
22:50 Megaf I mean, stone or cobble and wood
22:51 Megaf WindHero: yep, I believe is pipeworks fault, let me disable that mod
22:51 WindHero sin's factory getting a forced shutdown :P
22:52 Megaf not pipeworks fault
22:52 WindHero disabling didn't work?
22:53 lordcirth isn't there a mod blame debug option?
22:53 * Jordach finally worked out why volume was unusually quiet on Windows
22:54 Jordach it wasn't using USB Audio as my headset specifies and was lowered
22:54 Jordach Ubuntu corrected that
22:54 Megaf WindHero: ok, its better now
22:54 Megaf give it a try please
22:56 Jordach spose i better compile minetest
22:57 WindHero alright, Megaf
22:57 WindHero nice, Jordach
22:57 Megaf WindHero: nah, I give up
22:57 Megaf WindHero: no need to join
22:58 WindHero too late :P
22:58 Megaf I know where my servers botleneck is, on its storage
22:58 WindHero I was about to suggest that
22:58 WindHero going all the way to that distant place for a city....
22:58 * Jordach smells a ramdisk
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22:59 Megaf Jordach: I was about setup a redis server on a different machine, but you idea is pretty cool too
22:59 Megaf well done man
22:59 WindHero Jordach, you can smell magnetic disks?
23:00 Jordach yes
23:00 Jordach yes i can
23:00 WindHero fascinating!
23:00 WindHero yes, Megaf, it's better now
23:00 Megaf Jordach: actually thats a bad idea Jordach
23:00 Megaf Jordach: my map is almost as big as servers memory
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23:01 Megaf redis server it is then
23:01 * Jordach falls off the chair
23:02 Jordach MEDIA KEYS ON KEYBOARD FUCKING WORK
23:03 Megaf Jordach: yes, they do...
23:03 PilzAdam Jordach, they even work in Linux out of the box
23:03 Megaf they work with Linux out of the box, even on my MacBook Pro...
23:03 Jordach i'm more amazed a feature that everything on windows supports actually works
23:03 Jordach on Linux
23:03 Megaf welcome to Linux world, where things just work
23:03 Jordach except AMD APU drivers
23:03 PilzAdam nobody likes AMD
23:03 Megaf they do...
23:03 Jordach (i'm using an old Ubuntu because of it)
23:04 Megaf You need to get the binary drivers from AMD
23:04 Jordach Megaf, my display driver dies in 14.04 in 30 seconds
23:04 * WindHero Looks at his current Intel Processor specs
23:04 Jordach Megaf, already installed in 13.10
23:04 Megaf Jordach: well, I hate Ubuntu...
23:04 Jordach make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so', needed by `bin/minetest'. Stop.
23:04 Jordach wat
23:04 Megaf I rather use Windows 8.1 running on VirtualPC on Windows ME
23:04 Jordach u wot m8
23:04 Megaf than use Ubuntu
23:05 WindHero well, lunch is almost ready
23:05 WindHero cya
23:08 Jordach and this fixes it
23:08 Jordach jordach@jordach-MS-7721:~$ sudo ln -s -f -i /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so
23:08 Jordach ln: replace ‘/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so’? y
23:09 Megaf Jordach: looks like one more Ubuntu bug
23:09 Jordach Megaf, usually occurs when you have AMD Drivers
23:09 Megaf never happened to me
23:09 Megaf I'm using AMD since 2002
23:09 Megaf never used Ubuntu
23:10 Megaf I mean, as my main desktop OS
23:10 khonkhortisan I used ubuntu long enough to know that virtualbox's seamless mode gets confused by the composited panels
23:11 PilzAdam Jordach, what was your cmake command?
23:11 Jordach cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
23:11 PilzAdam cmake . -DMESS_UP=1 ?
23:22 * Jordach attempts to sign into Megaf's server
23:22 Jordach HOLY SHIT.
23:22 Jordach ~61fps with everything turned up compared to ~59fps on Windows
23:22 Exio4 that looks like vsync
23:22 Exio4 oh
23:22 Exio4 limited FPS
23:23 Exio4 if FPS is too high, moar view-range
23:24 Jordach -_- just tried to win key + up arrow to maximise
23:30 Exio4 til about that keybind in windows
23:30 Exio4 stil sucks
23:30 Exio4 still*
23:41 Megaf Jordach: 61 FPS on the SPAWN, not bad
23:42 Megaf if move away you should get even better FPS
23:42 Jordach Megaf, shows how much grunt my tower has then :)
23:42 Megaf if you*
23:42 Megaf Jordach: my max FPS is 60, I don't know why I can't get more
23:42 Jordach Megaf, i'm getting drawtimes of 10, and LOWER
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23:44 Megaf my drawtime is 12
23:44 Megaf lowest I got now was 8
23:46 WindHero What is this madness, there's no Latin subforum for the foreign language discussion forum.
23:49 Jordach gave em a shout in staff
23:49 WindHero Latine est lingua optima
23:49 Jordach should be sorted soon :)
23:49 WindHero I doubt anyone would post there anyway :P
23:49 WindHero not for long, anyway
23:51 WindHero I must be obsessed.
23:51 WindHero I'm filling the remaining GB on my iPod with anime
23:51 * Jordach just starts shredding along to Heavy Metal Winner - Consumed
23:52 * WindHero is shredding to ROOKiEZ is PUNK'D - Complication
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23:53 Megaf Ok, I screwed my system up pretty bad now
23:53 Megaf time to backup everything and reinstall the OS
23:54 WindHero oh no!
23:55 lordcirth Megaf, lol.  you're supposed to backup everything _before_ screwing it up
23:55 Megaf funny thing is, my two disk drives can fully fit on my backup drive, several times...
23:55 Megaf lordcirth: I mean, my home and stuff is safe and backup already
23:55 WindHero #mind-screw
23:55 Megaf Im just backing up my backup
23:56 Megaf just in case I install my system on the wrong drive...
23:56 WindHero that would be... problematic, should I say?
23:56 Megaf yep
23:56 Megaf And I done that before
23:56 Megaf I have done*
23:56 Megaf so now a days I duplicate my backups on two drives
23:57 Megaf then I leave one unplugged when reinstalling the system
23:57 Megaf and then I store it on my closet
23:57 Megaf :)
23:57 * WindHero nods in approval
23:58 Jordach or just partiton like a goddamn pro
23:58 Jordach i keep OSes separate from my data
23:58 Megaf (JFS) "Format completed successfully."
23:58 Megaf cool
23:58 Jordach that way the OS doesn't take up the entire drive and the bigger partiton is the data one automatically
23:58 Megaf Jordach: So do I
23:58 Jordach (1.73TB for my data)
23:58 WindHero Rock that 2 TB HDD
23:58 Megaf Jordach: I separete /boot /home /tmp and /var
23:59 Exio4 why var
23:59 Jordach >2 hours 32 minutes for TF2 Linux to finish :(
23:59 * Megaf dont like big drives, just more things to be lost in cathastrofic failures
23:59 WindHero just as I rock a 256 GB SSD
23:59 Exio4 Megaf: mirror raid

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