Time Nick Message 00:10 floriel ShadowNinja your tip was exactly what I was looking for, thanks 00:18 floriel now I'm stuck with another problem: I try to figure out how much pieces of an item are contained in the players inventory 00:19 floriel contains_item("listname", stack) only tells me if a stack of the given size is contained, but I need the total amount 00:20 floriel has anybody an idea? 00:24 ShadowNinja floriel: Iterating through the inventory again. Use get_name() and get_count(). 00:25 floriel hm, seems like the API could use some additional methods ;-) 00:26 ShadowNinja Getting the count throughout the whole inventory isn't a very common operation, and it can be done without a C++ method. But feel free to add one. 00:32 floriel the methods of the InvRef object are part of the c/c++ core and not lua, right? 06:27 kanabris hi 06:28 kanabris helllloooo 06:29 kanabris heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 06:29 kanabris anyone here? 06:29 CraigyDavi hi 06:29 kanabris ohh good 06:30 kanabris what is that this chat? 06:31 kanabris I'm designer 3D 06:31 kanabris I work with blender game engine 06:31 kanabris andd 06:31 Mimilus plop evereybody 06:32 kanabris I like participation in programming this game 06:32 Mimilus Is there a possibility to keep texture top and bottom aligned in the same direction for nodeboxes wich used facedir for the placement ? 06:32 kanabris yes 06:33 kanabris I guess 06:35 kanabris Who is responsible here? 06:35 asie hello 06:35 kanabris hi asie 06:35 kanabris Who is responsible here? 06:36 kanabris heeeeeellloooooo? 06:44 Mimilus How must i do to keep all the botom and top texture of nodeboxes aligned to the north ? 07:09 MinetestBot GIT: zefram@fysh.org commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Don't allow non-inventory items as ingredients b64fea4f70 2014-05-02T09:07:52+02:00 http://git.io/ 07:28 nore ^ sfan5, MinetestBot is bugged... 07:31 VanessaE already mentioned it once :P 08:23 Mimilus Is there a possibility to keep texture top and bottom aligned in the same direction for nodeboxes wich used facedir for the placement ? 08:23 Mimilus How must i do to keep all the botom and top texture of nodeboxes aligned to the north ? 08:46 Mimilus Is it possible ? 09:07 VanessaE bbl 09:26 Mikerhinos hi 09:45 Calinou hi 10:07 Jordach easiest. achievement. ever. 10:07 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/YuDRpekGD1Kp.png 10:07 asie Jordach: Which edition of Minetest is "the best fucking edition of Minetest ever"? 10:08 Jordach asie, manually added a game to steam 10:08 asie I know 10:08 asie but which edition /is/ it? 10:08 Jordach had to annoy hoodedice with it 10:09 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/-EpWla8mUGdt.png 10:48 Jordach sfan5, http://www.ebuyer.com/620311-hp-255-g1-laptop-with-ubuntu-h6q17ea-abu 10:53 RealBadAngel thats a nice price 10:55 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:55 Jordach PilzAdam, found a HP laptop with Ubuntu preloaded 11:07 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam 11:24 RealBadAngel propably have to lay on the shelf for the next half a yr, as usual ;) 11:29 Megaf Good Morning 12:13 Exio4 more like until someone fixes something in it and then gets merged 12:14 Exio4 fixes something trivial 12:14 PilzAdam this are more than 4 lines in the signature: https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9829 12:23 sfan5 meow 12:23 sfan5 hi everyone 12:23 sfan5 hi Jordach 12:39 * Megaf barks at sfan5 12:39 sfan5 meow 12:40 * john_minetest gives sfan a <'((((-< 12:40 Jordach PilzAdam, done 12:40 sfan5 meow 12:40 * sfan5 purrs at john_minetest 12:50 Mimilus here http://dev.minetest.net/Node_Drawtypes It is writted that "normal use 8 tiles", node has 6 faces, what are this 2 other tiles ??? 12:51 NekoGloop Mimilus: clearly, up its ass 12:52 NekoGloop those are appended on top of the dirt textures 12:53 * NekoGloop pokes VanessaE 12:53 Mimilus the other use ^ symbol ??? 12:55 crazyR__ http://dev.minetest.net/Formspec_json <-- this looks so sexy, has it not been implemented yet? 12:57 sfan5 >sexy 12:57 sfan5 have you been drinking? 12:57 sfan5 john_minetest: a branch for bluetooth multiplayer will be read to test 12:58 sfan5 ready* 12:58 crazyR__ nore, but really the current method is madnes. json would make things so much easier :D 12:58 crazyR__ *no 12:58 PilzAdam lolwat 12:58 sfan5 I'm looking forward to 0.5.0 so I can completly break formspecs and make them better 12:59 crazyR__ lol 12:59 PilzAdam json is absolutely not readable 12:59 sfan5 ^ 12:59 crazyR__ really and stings like the formspec are? 13:00 PilzAdam of course not 13:00 PilzAdam formspecs were designed for simple list based inventories 13:00 PilzAdam and they work perfectly fine for that 13:01 PilzAdam this whole formspec Lua menu crap just abused the shit out of it 13:01 crazyR__ but mod developers want more than that and are trying to make use of what they have.. so doesnt that say it needs a change? 13:02 PilzAdam thats quite obvious 13:03 crazyR__ so is there anything being done? 13:03 PilzAdam [14:58:58] I'm looking forward to 0.5.0 so I can completly break formspecs and make them better 13:03 crazyR__ yeah but how far away is that? 13:03 sfan5 very far 13:04 crazyR__ my point exactly 13:04 sfan5 we basically can't really improve formspecs without breaking mod support 13:04 sfan5 stuff is supposed to break in 0.5.0 anyway so we can do that there 13:04 crazyR__ have legacy? 13:04 sfan5 lolno 13:04 PilzAdam also a client side API would help in designing the GUI 13:04 sfan5 I'm not writing a parser for that shitty formspec string 13:05 sfan5 +(in Lua) 13:05 crazyR__ to be fair sfan, all it would need to do is check if its a string or (new format). if its a string, then continue with the old way. if its the new format do the new stuff 13:06 sfan5 yeah sure 13:06 sfan5 we add a new way and keep the old one 13:06 PilzAdam we plan for 0.5 to remove all this old legacy code 13:06 sfan5 nobody will use the new one because the old one still works 13:06 PilzAdam do you have an idea how much of this is already in Minetest? 13:07 Exio4 what about a "working" branch of 0.5 13:07 sfan5 too much work to rebase 13:07 crazyR__ sfan5: if the new one works better and has more functionality then new mod will use it. and popular mods will convert. 13:07 sfan5 and everyone can work for his/herself 13:08 crazyR__ the saying is a workman is only as good as his tools, same applies to the people who make mods 13:08 sfan5 well 13:08 sfan5 it is not a good idea to add a new way while keeping the old one 13:08 sfan5 that would introduce way to much legacy code 13:10 crazyR__ how about modifying the hud then? to be fair user gui should probably have been based around that from the start anyhow 13:13 crazyR__ i might be wrong, but forms cnt be created on the hud can they? 13:14 sfan5 >user gui should probably have been based around hud from the start anyhow 13:14 sfan5 no 13:14 sfan5 the hud system is for HUD elements, nothing else 13:15 crazyR__ so what would your suggestion be for menu's and other user gui, or should i say what did you have in mind in the next release 13:16 sfan5 nothing 13:16 crazyR__ ? im confused. how do you intend to give mod developers ways to give the user a better experiance 13:18 sfan5 extend the current formspec system 13:18 crazyR__ ok great... so why can we not extend it now? 13:20 sfan5 we can 13:20 sfan5 but we can not change the overall system 13:20 sfan5 like strings -> json 13:21 crazyR__ like you siad though theres already lots of legacy code in minetest, so ho wmuch worst would be having a little bit more in order to make this game much better. in terms of what modders can do and in terms of how the end user will enjoy it 13:22 sfan5 litte bit 13:22 sfan5 watz 13:22 sfan5 -z 13:22 sfan5 if we change the way formspecs are stored we need to rewrite the complete code for formspecs 13:22 sfan5 that is at least as much formspec code we have now 13:22 sfan5 we would end up with 2x the code we have now 13:23 sfan5 that is not a "litte bit" 13:26 crazyR__ im no expert but ive just searched the github repo for the word "formspec" and got 34 results. does that sound about right? 13:28 crazyR__ also is this all the all functions in formspec: http://dev.minetest.net/formspec or are there some unlisted ones? 13:28 sfan5 34 results does not indicate how much code is there 13:29 Sokomine i'm using the formspecs to a great extend in my traders mod. it was a pain to use...but rewriting it to a new system probably wouldn't be much fun either.... 13:29 sfan5 > it was a pain to use 13:29 sfan5 yes, ack, ack! 13:29 crazyR__ i will happily spend a few nights regexing them, for you to use to remake what you see as an ideal formspec. that way there wouldnt be twice the code? 13:30 Sokomine the main problems i have with formspecs are: a) messages/labels that are longer than a few short words break at unexpected/unpredictable points. very bad for when you need a longer description for something 13:30 Sokomine b) arrangement of formspec elements. it takes some trial and error to get them to fitting positions, and with diffrent font size, things might be diffrent again 13:31 Exio4 crazyR__: formspecs aren't something easy to do, mainly because for each word you probably have 50+ lines of code for doing something 13:31 Exio4 easy to do in engine terms 13:32 Exio4 the few times i looked at the code, i basically had nightmares or something similar! :D 13:33 Sokomine the next thing i'm planning on the mod side is some basic quest/rpg mob. basicly right-click the mob, get a formspec with a question and either predifined replies or a text input field. i'm afraid that'll all have to be textareas 13:39 PenguinDad I have really no idea why everyone hates this minetest.get_player_sysinfo() thing 13:39 crazyR__ Exio4: I agree, the problem sfan he siad above is that he wasnt prepared to writea parser to convert the strings to what ever format he want to use. from my understanding, thats what is holdinghim back from doing the improvements he wishes todo in the next release. so my offer above is to write a parser for each of the formspec strings. allowing him to make it better 13:40 crazyR__ PenguinDad: I 100% agree with you 13:40 Exio4 PenguinDad: why does the server need to know so much data about the client 13:41 sfan5 Exio4: every website you visit known more than the server 13:41 sfan5 knows* 13:42 sfan5 and if sending you OS + version + arch is a threat for you you are using the wrong OS 13:42 sfan5 your* 13:42 Exio4 sfan5: change the UA 13:42 crazyR__ Exio4: "so much" you make it sound like its alot. 13:42 Krock Hello. 13:42 crazyR__ hi Krock 13:44 Exio4 and version of what? minetest? 13:44 Krock crashtest 9.4.0 13:45 crazyR__ Exio4: Im intrested your using Tor currently i think. If your so bothered about privacy, why are you using a network that has ben heavily compramised. why are you not using a private vpn? 13:46 crazyR__ and i dont mean to be insulting neither, just a genral question 13:46 sfan5 Exio4: os version 13:46 Exio4 i'm not using tor for privacy reasons right now 13:46 Exio4 also, because i'm poor 13:46 sfan5 > heavily compramised >tor 13:46 sfan5 care to explain? 13:47 PenguinDad it's easier for the nsa to crack your private vpn than tor 13:48 sfan5 ^ 13:48 crazyR__ certain powers setup points in the network specificlly to collect data. and have setup softwares to detect behavour patterns, enabling them to link data to a certain persons unuiqe pattern 13:48 sfan5 >collect data 13:48 crazyR__ with tor its a game of if your lucky 13:48 sfan5 if you use tor you should not give anyone any data 13:48 sfan5 >link data to a certain persons unuiqe pattern 13:49 Exio4 can you repeat that last sentence 13:49 Exio4 i didn't understand it 13:49 sfan5 this is very hard to do 13:49 crazyR__ you give data when your browsing website, logging into websiote etc 13:49 sfan5 ARE YOU INSANE? 13:49 Exio4 first of all, use SSL, and i mostly use tor for 'talking' with hidden services 13:50 Krock tor is useful for warez, not for chatting 13:50 crazyR__ yeah i must be, because im sat here explaining something that was leaked nearly a year ago. 13:50 Exio4 warez lol 13:50 sfan5 crazyR__: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#AmITotallyAnonymous 13:51 sfan5 you should NEVER log into any service over tor (if you're not using TLS) 13:51 sfan5 Exio4: TLS*Ü 13:51 Exio4 crazyR__: tor is a tool, if you cut your leg with a chainsaw, was it chainsaw's fault? 13:51 sfan5 s/Ü// 13:51 Exio4 well, whatever 13:51 Exio4 :P 13:51 sfan5 https://www.howsmyssl.com/s/about.html#tls-vs-ssl 13:51 Exio4 i also only use tor for hidden services 13:52 Exio4 sfan5, what things need to be in a scripting language interface definition? 13:52 Exio4 (wtf :D) 13:52 sfan5 uh, what? 13:52 sfan5 why are you asking me this? 13:52 Exio4 basically, init/halt procedures, then add_definition_to_global_space, then add_definition_to_some_object/table/whatever, then runfile 13:53 Exio4 because you have some experience with minetest's scripting interface? 13:53 crazyR__ ok, so the recent heartbleed bug, thats been there for years un noticed. openssl is what many companies and organisation's. it was affected. so tor wasnt anymore secure than any other method 13:53 sfan5 >scripting language interface definition 13:53 sfan5 please reword that 13:53 Exio4 madeup sentence ftw 13:54 Exio4 sfan5, what things do you think are elemental in the API of a scripting language 13:54 sfan5 crazyR__: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2014-April/004340.html 13:54 sfan5 a scripting language has no api 13:54 Exio4 interface 13:55 sfan5 do you mean an API interface for a program (e.g. Minetest) for a scripting language (e.g. Lua)? 13:55 Exio4 the thing that would be between MT and Lua 13:55 sfan5 the api 13:55 sfan5 yes 13:55 sfan5 it obviously heavily depends on the program 13:56 Exio4 if you needed a simplified dumb-proof not powerful API 13:56 Exio4 what would you say it should have 13:57 sfan5 functions 13:57 sfan5 (sorry, but there is nothing to say in general) 13:59 Krock sfan5, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYY5dN7rsDE#t=0:40 13:59 sfan5 !title 13:59 MinetestBot sfan5: Gebrüder Blattschuss - Frühstück 1980 - YouTube 14:00 Krock no idea why I sent this 14:00 crazyR__ sfan5: that basically shows that they are now rejecting relays that havebeen or maybe be affected by heartbleed. that still doesnt stop the fact that it has been useless for all this time, infact the the opposite, as it states there were just over 900 vulnerable relays. unless im reading it wrong. 14:00 sfan5 it has been useless for all this time 14:01 sfan5 [citation needed] 14:01 crazyR__ since the bug existed 14:01 sfan5 uhh no 14:01 PenguinDad "Assertion '"Connection::getLocalStat we couldn't get our own peer? are you serious???" == 0' failed." I really love this error message 14:01 sfan5 there are more than 900 tor relays 14:01 sfan5 and relays can upgrade their version 14:01 crazyR__ There are a bit over 900 14:01 crazyR__ vulnerable relays in the latest consensus. 14:02 sfan5 yeah 14:02 sfan5 but there are way more non-vulnarable relays 14:04 crazyR__ that maybe so but 900 is still alot. and that makes it no more better than using the websites on your normal regular connection 14:05 sfan5 if you are researching something that is illegal in your country: no 14:07 crazyR__ i suppose that is diffrent, its a risk you have to accept either way. anyone determined enought to sniff out your browsing habbits and data etc, they will find a way 14:09 crazyR__ my favorite rule is: if it can be made, it can be broke.... if it can be broke it can be fixed. ie: security... if you make the worlds toughest encyption then someone with enough determination will brake it 14:09 sfan5 >anyone determined enought to sniff out your browsing habbits and data etc, they will find a way 14:09 sfan5 which data? 14:09 Exio4 so lets give up, i'll just use plain data 14:09 sfan5 what are "browsing habits"? 14:10 Exio4 tell the staff to take out my cloak, give all you root access to my computer 14:10 Exio4 if you wanted it you could have it anyway 14:10 crazyR__ lol Exio4 i have no issues with anyone using tor, i personally just dont see the point 14:10 Exio4 exactly 14:10 Exio4 it is just another layer 14:10 Exio4 by that way, we can say using TLS/SSL/encryption has no point 14:11 Exio4 and how is a private vpn different from tor? you're paying for something? even easier to track i guess 14:11 Exio4 unless you pay with cryptocoins.. but then we have the blockchain 14:13 Exio4 but wait, you could have got it by mining in some site 14:13 PenguinDad the cake is not a lie! http://i.imgur.com/gkQKlqd.jpg 14:13 Exio4 normally, those pools have a thing where you can see who got X coins 14:14 Exio4 even if you set anonymous i guess you can track it down 14:14 Exio4 and then we could say that is a fake user with a fakeemail (fake-created-just-for-that-account) but then they have ip logs! 14:14 Exio4 i made you a nearly-impossible-without-full-control-of-all-servers-around way to track anyone 14:20 Megaf folks, can a big debug log increase lag? 14:23 CraigyDavi Megaf, I'm pretty sure it does not 14:23 CraigyDavi But it's always a good idea to clear it from time to time 14:27 Krock please-someone-fix-the-c++-mapper-and-compile-a-win32-version 14:27 PilzAdam Krock, see what happens when you mess around with your space and - key? 14:28 Krock PilzAdam-no-i-don't-see-what-happens-sorry 14:29 zsoltisawesome_ hi! 14:29 zsoltisawesome_ sfan5: for you: http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=73238 14:30 * PenguinDad slaps Krock 14:30 * Krock -slaps-PenginDad 14:30 * zsoltisawesome_ slaps PenguinDad 14:30 sfan5 zsoltisawesome_: use pastie.org next time 14:30 sfan5 oh wait 14:30 sfan5 that is a .wav 14:31 zsoltisawesome_ ya 14:31 zsoltisawesome_ :P 14:31 sfan5 then use https://mediacru.sh next time 14:31 zsoltisawesome_ what?!?! 14:31 zsoltisawesome_ you can use that for .wav files? 14:31 zsoltisawesome_ cool 14:31 sfan5 yes 14:31 sfan5 you can host almost any media there 14:32 zsoltisawesome_ awesome 14:34 zsoltisawesome_ PenguinDad: https://mediacru.sh/ab3WsVPK5PSx 14:34 zsoltisawesome_ Krock: ^ 14:36 Krock zsoltisawesome, what does it say? I'm not good in listening things 14:37 zsoltisawesome_ it says: PenguinDad shouldn't slap Krock 14:37 Krock ok 14:38 sfan5 flap crop! 14:38 zsoltisawesome_ john_minetest: lol 14:40 zsoltisawesome_ hahaha 14:40 Jordach if i wanted to hear robots, i'd listen to daft punk's old albums 14:40 sfan5 meow 14:40 sfan5 o/ Jordach 14:41 sfan5 john_minetest: here's what I did until just a minute ago: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f5b791929e035d78af3aff502ca119eac745e91e 14:43 Jordach sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/hw3cyCQrRHjv.png 14:43 sfan5 Jordach: https://soundcloud.com/monstercat/droptek-the-covenant 14:44 zsoltisawesome_ Jordach: UT2004 as in Unreal Tounament 2004? 14:44 Jordach zsoltisawesome_, yes 14:44 zsoltisawesome_ fun!! 14:44 zsoltisawesome_ i always wanted that 14:44 Jordach and of course, Age of Mythology cds 14:45 Jordach (6 days till the HD release on Steam) 14:47 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qtntUIZ95iYW.png >:D (fucking with SoundHelix) 14:47 zsoltisawesome_ anything > winamp > WMP 14:47 Jordach winamp doesn't crash like clementine on windows 14:49 zsoltisawesome_ brb 14:56 zsoltisawesome_ john_minetest: haha 14:56 Krock lo 14:56 CraigyDavi john_minetest, supprising how accurate that is 14:56 Krock l 14:56 * sfan5 meows at john_minetest 14:57 PilzAdam Krock, you usually write "lol" in one line 14:57 zsoltisawesome_ PilzAdam: ... 14:57 Krock PilzAdam, I can write l o l like i lol want 14:58 zsoltisawesome_ hhahahahahahaha 14:59 Krock ... 14:59 Krock very blind 15:36 zsoltisawesome_ harrison! 15:37 zsoltisawesome_ the wise person! 15:41 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/sxVU-jPCRzc9.png 15:41 Jordach BAM]# 15:41 Jordach =]# 15:41 VanessaE good morning 15:44 Krock good dinner time 15:44 sfan5 that is called afternoon then 15:47 Exio4 http://www.redray.es/2014/vip-mix-07/ 15:52 Megaf New way I'm doing backups 15:52 whiskers75 Hello minetesters! 15:52 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5 15:52 Megaf rsync -avz Minetest/minetest/ user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/media/External/Minetest_Backup 15:52 * sfan5 purrs at whiskers75 15:52 Megaf That's my new way of backing up things 15:52 * whiskers75 purrs and headbutts Megaf (a kitty sign of affection) 15:52 whiskers75 kitty approves 15:52 sfan5 Megaf: +1 for rsync 15:53 Krock Das Beste für die Nierchen - - sind - - die Bierchen :D 15:53 whiskers75 i'm sorry wat 15:53 Exio4 what 15:53 Megaf actually, thats a plan b backup, I do two backups, I tar zcvf one and the rsync one 15:53 whiskers75 NCMPCPP FTW 15:53 Megaf Hi whiskers75 sfan5 :) 15:53 whiskers75 also 15:53 whiskers75 I really should work on the WJTHWT 15:54 Exio4 hi Megaf & sfan5 & whiskers75 & anyone here 15:54 Megaf tar zcvf on local server and rsync on a remote one 15:54 Megaf so even if my server catches fires I will have a backup 15:54 Megaf Hi Exio4 15:57 zsoltisawesome_ Connection reset by beer :P 15:58 Krock :) 15:58 PenguinDad I prefer Connection reset by pilz :p 16:00 zsoltisawesome_ haha 16:02 ShadowNinja /msg peer Stop reseting peoples connections! ;-) 16:02 zsoltisawesome_ thats a new o 16:02 zsoltisawesome_ lol 16:02 ShadowNinja I'm on a channel will peer and people tell him that often. :-D 16:02 ShadowNinja with* 16:03 ShadowNinja (On a different network) 16:03 zsoltisawesome_ haha 16:03 zsoltisawesome_ i messaged freenode peer 16:03 zsoltisawesome_ XD 16:04 zsoltisawesome_ "peer: idle for 41 days, 1 hour, 46 minutes, 52 seconds" 16:05 PenguinDad hmmm… it doesn't exist as long as the network 16:06 zsoltisawesome_ haha: ":orwell.freenode.net 432 ndrku NickServ :Erroneous Nickname" 16:06 PenguinDad 1984 is real! 16:06 zsoltisawesome_ what? 16:06 liudas hello fellows. i wounder where i should look at to solve such situation: one player can destroy blocks placed by other but not vice versus... 16:07 sfan5 liudas: are you using any protection mods? 16:07 liudas it happens in server. i checked privs - they look the same 16:08 ShadowNinja Protection or missing interact would cause that. I think that's all. 16:08 zsoltisawesome_ WHAT! 16:08 zsoltisawesome_ I am disappoint 16:09 zsoltisawesome_ one cannot register any nick with the suffix of Serv 16:09 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome_: your argument is invalid 16:09 zsoltisawesome_ one cannot even use said nicknames 16:09 zsoltisawesome_ it is? 16:10 PenguinDad so you can't be DuckServ :( 16:10 zsoltisawesome_ ./whowas GroupServ 16:10 liudas sfan5: well not sure. 16:11 liudas ShadowNinja: all players has interact privs 16:11 sfan5 liudas: if you do you should look into the documentation of the protecting mod 16:11 liudas sfan5: ok i'll do that 16:11 liudas thank's 16:12 Megaf folks, in unified inventory mod, what is that refil thing for? 16:12 Megaf s/refil/refill 16:12 VanessaE in creative mode, it resets the stack you drop in there back to stack max 16:12 Megaf or even, how do I use it? 16:12 VanessaE (e.g. 99 items in that stack or whatever) 16:12 Megaf VanessaE: What about non creative? 16:12 VanessaE take a stack of say 4 dirt, drop it in there, you get 99 back. 16:13 VanessaE in survival mode, it does nothing if you don't also have the creative privilege 16:13 zsoltisawesome_ haha! 16:13 VanessaE (and afaik, it doesn't even show up in that case) 16:13 zsoltisawesome_ PenguinDad: you can be ServDuck! 16:13 zsoltisawesome_ :D 16:13 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:13 Krock hi rubenwardy! 16:13 VanessaE hey rubenwardy 16:14 rubenwardy Hello Mr Krock! 16:14 ServingDuck zsoltisawesome_: o/ 16:14 zsoltisawesome_ lol 16:14 Krock !ninja zsoltisawesome_ 16:14 ServDuck zsoltisawesome_: You have been cut by Krock! 16:14 rubenwardy zsoltisawesome_ nick 16:15 zsoltisawesome_ hmm? 16:15 rubenwardy zsoltisawesome_: /msg NickServ ghost zsoltisawesome password 16:15 zsoltisawesome_ that is cool 16:16 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome_: you should try regain instead of ghost 16:16 zsoltisawesome_ ok 16:17 zsoltisawesome yay 16:17 zsoltisawesome lol 16:17 zsoltisawesome its trying really hard 16:17 rubenwardy Bot? 16:17 zsoltisawesome no 16:17 zsoltisawesome ZNC 16:17 rubenwardy That is the word I meant, sorry 16:17 zsoltisawesome holy crap 16:18 zsoltisawesome its persistant 16:18 Jordach so's quassel_core 16:18 * PenguinDad bounces zsoltisawesome's bouncer 16:18 zsoltisawesome i'm gonna go tell it to to die 16:18 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: lol 16:20 zsoltisawesome hmm 16:24 zsoltisawesome so 16:25 zsoltisawesome minetest is awesome 16:25 rubenwardy Minetest isn't that awesome. The potential is. I have high standards for awesome. 16:25 zsoltisawesome lol 16:26 Krock ~c 'minetest' > 'awesome' 16:26 ShadowBot Krock: Error: Spurious ">". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. 16:26 zsoltisawesome i am going to register a Github bouncer 16:26 zsoltisawesome at Gitbug.com 16:26 zsoltisawesome :P 16:26 zsoltisawesome cause I keep typing that 16:27 zsoltisawesome what! 16:27 zsoltisawesome it registered! 16:27 zsoltisawesome darn 16:30 Jordach and this is the good life 16:30 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/EEzQnYKngjg4.png 16:32 asie trying to figure out how to install mods to minetest on OS X 16:33 asie checking out a few so i know what's out there before i start work on my own 16:35 lordcirth asie, just drop them into the mods folder, or if they are games, into the games folder. pretty simple :) 16:35 asie yes, but there is no mods folder made by default in the os x .app 16:35 asie and creating one didn't help in the mod list 16:36 asie wait 16:36 asie i think i got it 16:36 asie nope. 16:36 lordcirth asie, interesting. You could try downloading a mod from inside the client, and following where it goes 16:36 RealBadAngel poszukaj folderu /worlds i w tym samym miejscu stworz folder /mods 16:36 asie RealBadAngel: aaa, /worlds, dzięki 16:36 asie RealBadAngel: cieszę się, że nie jestem jedynym polakiem tutaj ^^ 16:37 CraigyDavi I'm fed up with this. My server keeps lagging out. Here's what happens: https://gist.github.com/CraigyDavi/ffc94f7c0337cfc5d49c 16:37 asie found it 16:37 zsoltisawesome hell ya, mese on the moon! https://mediacru.sh/k2jqlKCZzLbV 16:37 CraigyDavi At the bottom I shutdown the server as there is terrible lag 16:37 CraigyDavi At the top it is perfectly fine, no problems. 16:38 Krock CraigyDavi, check connection. 16:38 Mati^1 RealBadAngel odezwij sie na priva !!! 16:38 asie RealBadAngel: moze #minetest-pl? 16:39 asie szkoda, ze zarejestrowany juz 16:39 CraigyDavi Seems to be RROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: peer not found. causing it. 16:39 Mati^1 zrob inny podobny ;) 16:39 asie #minetest-polska 16:39 Mati^1 dokladnie ;) 16:39 asie juz jest 16:39 CraigyDavi My connection to the internet? 16:40 CraigyDavi It's perfectly fine. 16:40 Krock CraigyDavi, no, god's conection to internet 16:40 zsoltisawesome lol 16:41 Krock I only get lagging out problems when the internet connection is broken 16:41 Krock or when i've cuz a lot of bamboo 16:41 Krock but that's clientside generated lag 16:42 liudas ShadowNinja: got it - i was not able destroy "unbreakable glass" from your mod "bedrock". is there any way to kill them? 16:43 Krock use some tools like technic's drill, admin pickaxe, nukes... 16:43 Krock 16:43 CraigyDavi Hmm. I hope the bug can be fixed. 16:44 Krock bugs are caused by providing features - so it's possible to fix 16:44 Krock somehow. 16:47 zsoltisawesome can somebody test Moontest, I am having terrain gen issues, I wanna see if its just me.. 16:48 zsoltisawesome https://github.com/ManOfMinetest24/moontest 16:50 BlockMen https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=140317#p140317 Gizah? pff... 16:50 BlockMen :D 16:51 Krock +1 16:57 Jordach and mastered single texture simulated water 16:57 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/f203ja92L2F7.png 17:03 zsoltisawesome sfan5: you can force python to turn string to int with int(), right? 17:03 sfan5 yes 17:03 zsoltisawesome cool 17:12 zsoltisawesome can somebody test Moontest, please! 17:18 Jordach test it yourself 17:18 Jordach i've done that enough with BFD 17:19 zsoltisawesome it doesn't work on mine... 17:19 zsoltisawesome the terrain gen cuts off 17:19 PilzAdam sfan5, I see you pushed to the wrong repo 17:19 sfan5 PilzAdam: yes I did 17:19 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad! 17:20 zsoltisawesome don't slap Krock! 17:20 * Jordach slaps zsoltisawesome 17:20 zsoltisawesome #canttouchthis 17:20 * sfan5 purrs at Jordach 17:21 * PenguinDad pets sfan5 17:22 * sfan5 meows 17:22 Calinou hi 17:22 sfan5 hi Calinou 17:24 * zsoltisawesome throws /dev/null/ at sfan5 17:24 * sfan5 looks at the device confused 17:24 * PenguinDad casts /dev/random at zsoltisawesome 17:25 * zsoltisawesome eats it 17:25 sfan5 ooh 17:25 zsoltisawesome adfbuw34ybqaew8va7u4bpqe9bg0q4sufvxdbvjsrsr; 17:25 * zsoltisawesome spits it out 17:25 zsoltisawesome that tasted bad 17:26 zsoltisawesome it tasted like clean metel 17:26 zsoltisawesome *al 17:27 zsoltisawesome #me 17:28 PenguinDad fuck you too soundcloud -.- 17:28 zsoltisawesome erm "#action is already registered to freenode-staff." "The nickname “freenode-staff” does not exist." 17:29 Calinou /hp zsoltisawesome 0 17:29 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: what have they done now? 17:29 * zsoltisawesome dies 17:29 zsoltisawesome laggy server :P 17:30 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome:set_breath(0) 17:32 * zsoltisawesome dies again 17:33 zsoltisawesome i wish I had moonrealm:spacesuit 17:33 Calinou Princess Luna stole it 17:34 zsoltisawesome Calinou: how do you know? 17:34 zsoltisawesome Lunatrius! XD 17:34 zsoltisawesome MLP 17:34 Calinou a pony 17:34 Krock what's MLP? 17:34 Calinou My Little Pony 17:34 Krock ah 17:34 Calinou john_minetest, MoonScript stole it. 17:34 zsoltisawesome lol 17:35 Calinou identify ALL the ponies! 17:35 zsoltisawesome http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_Luna 17:35 zsoltisawesome lol 17:36 zsoltisawesome Calinou: Inkbutt and sunbutt 17:36 zsoltisawesome :D 17:38 rubenwardy https://www.dropbox.com/s/xadi9k6rioidf78/awards_menu.png?dl=1 17:39 Calinou don't forget capital Y, rubenwardy 17:39 Calinou else, it'll be “You're a bitch!” 17:39 Krock rubenwardy, your new mod? 17:40 rubenwardy Nope 17:40 rubenwardy Update to an old mod 17:40 Krock also nice 17:41 zsoltisawesome https://mediacru.sh/k2jqlKCZzLbV 17:41 zsoltisawesome mese on da moon! ^ 17:41 Krock old -^ 17:42 Calinou ugly font 17:44 zsoltisawesome https://mediacru.sh/4yTNf3bG_3R0 17:44 zsoltisawesome what is ungly font? 17:45 zsoltisawesome *ugly 17:45 Calinou woah 17:45 zsoltisawesome the moon is a bit broken at the moment 17:45 Calinou http://0bin.net/paste/5O0h9hI1x3qOMd1R#+HYLFO6mUE2gGFPF0+aprhQ+cuDCu7eeOJZ2L/vZYuI= 17:45 zsoltisawesome ;) 17:45 Krock lol 17:45 Calinou pretty font! (you need fonts-droid installed) 17:45 Krock that's with simple lightening 17:45 Calinou the path is absolute, it implies the font is installed on your OS 17:46 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wL5TpI1CHFqn.png 17:47 zsoltisawesome nice an' french.... :D I know, i tried to use the ubuntu font, and that broke it... 17:47 PenguinDad eew your carbone is dirty! 17:48 zsoltisawesome lol 17:48 zsoltisawesome i noticed that too 17:48 zsoltisawesome "Ha ha! The fun has been doubled!" 17:50 Calinou :( only ASCII characters work with droid font 17:50 Calinou zsoltisawesome, that's what she said when she found a nyan cat in Minetest 17:50 zsoltisawesome i like the ubuntu font better 17:50 zsoltisawesome lol 17:50 Calinou suddenly: crappy licensing 17:50 rubenwardy Any ideas for triggers for the award mod? 17:50 rubenwardy (triggers: things you need to do to get an award) 17:51 zsoltisawesome Calinou: lol 17:51 Krock rubenwardy, plante saplings 17:51 Krock *planted 17:51 rubenwardy Already got place node, dig node, and deaths 17:51 rubenwardy Krock: I think that is in place nodes 17:51 Krock rubenwardy, collected bones 17:51 rubenwardy but good idea for an award 17:51 Krock I just give suggestions. 17:52 Krock could be named like "Nature lover" 17:52 Krock lol 17:52 zsoltisawesome haha 17:52 rubenwardy Well, suggest awards, and I can make triggers for them 17:52 rubenwardy (Award are achievements) 17:53 zsoltisawesome mese pickaxe make 17:53 Krock rubenwardy, how about placed cobble? 17:54 Krock Or grief master with 200 tries to dig on protected areas 17:55 Krock what the hell *presses printscreen* 17:55 zsoltisawesome it appears there are ginormous ravines on the moon 17:55 zsoltisawesome ... 17:56 * Jordach wonder's why Calinou isn't in ##calinou 17:59 zsoltisawesome how does the word "this" turn into "shit" 18:01 zsoltisawesome this: https://mediacru.sh/MEuFqdl25rQk 18:02 zsoltisawesome Calinou: ^ 18:03 Calinou looks like you're playing a very old version of Minetest :P 18:04 zsoltisawesome yes, yes it does 18:05 zsoltisawesome i found a floating nose 18:06 zsoltisawesome https://mediacru.sh/X_vn2dZFMoFV 18:07 Calinou why is your font that small and ugly? 18:09 zsoltisawesome its the font that minetest uses when it cant find a font 18:11 zsoltisawesome FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 18:11 Jordach because you darn fucked up again 18:11 zsoltisawesome minetest keeps crashing when i try to go to the main menu 18:11 PenguinDad Error message please? 18:12 Megaf I just generated a new map with the same seed I used in my server, man, it's quite impressive how we transform the world around us 18:12 zsoltisawesome crashes of access vilation 18:13 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: latest dev? 18:13 zsoltisawesome no 18:13 zsoltisawesome stable 18:13 rubenwardy Award menu and chat trigger - https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/commits/master 18:16 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add hack to avoid 2s startup delay on local games 9370f5657a 2014-05-02T00:18:25+02:00 http://git.io/lMCifg 18:19 zsoltisawesome this is my problem: https://mediacru.sh/sTs7CwCgCQ7h 18:20 Krock zsoltisawesome, not generated/loaded chunks... 18:21 zsoltisawesome hmm 18:21 zsoltisawesome that is a problem 18:21 Krock this is my problem: http://i.imgur.com/qpB0EUG.png 18:23 PenguinDad privacy settings? ;) 18:23 Krock hmm 18:23 Krock that is a problem 18:23 VanessaE zsoltisawesome: sounds like you turned off camera updates, or you've got something generating "ignore" where air should be 18:24 zsoltisawesome probably the second one 18:25 Calinou zsoltisawesome, then provide it a font? 18:31 zsoltisawesome checking ginbug code 18:32 Calinou there's a default one, in the fonts/ directory, which will be used if you haven't changed the font_path setting 18:32 zsoltisawesome *git 18:34 CraigyDavi Castle Zoidburg: http://i.imgur.com/XFFYzm2.png 18:34 zsoltisawesome john_minetest: I have the same problem 18:34 Krock yeah, known problem. john_minetest. 18:34 PenguinDad I have same problem with crisps :D 18:34 PenguinDad + the 18:34 zsoltisawesome crisps = chips? 18:34 Krock BIOS chips, me means 18:34 Krock *he 18:34 zsoltisawesome VanessaE: no instances of ignore in the generation code... 18:34 PenguinDad I dunno 18:34 Krock Agh..it has been raining now for a whole week :( 18:34 VanessaE zsoltisawesome: any unknown node I think becomes 'ignore' at generation time if it is somehow forced into the map 18:34 zsoltisawesome i think i got it 18:34 zsoltisawesome i was using v6 instead of singlenode 18:34 VanessaE maybe. 18:34 zsoltisawesome Huzzah! 18:37 Calinou for IRC/text editor, is it a better idea to have a fully black background or a dark grey one (such as #202020)? 18:38 Jordach Calinou, depends on the screen settings 18:38 Jordach really does 18:38 Krock Ok, our hack master discovered a new bug, where it's possible to use \n to make multiline chat messages 18:38 Krock how to fix this? 18:38 Jordach revoke his fuckin shout 18:38 Jordach easiest method 18:39 CraigyDavi By typing /n into chat? I never knew you could do that 18:39 Krock CraigyDavi: \n as one char, not 2 chars 18:40 CraigyDavi Ok 18:40 Jordach Krock, unicode 18:40 Jordach that's usually the cause 18:40 Krock Jordach, ehm ascii contains \n too IIKR 18:40 Krock *IIRC 18:42 CraigyDavi It's also possible to pretend to be another player by putting lots of spaces after your message and then a . it starts a new line and looks exactly the sam as it would normally, Unless using the chat console 18:44 Calinou resolution and font-size dependant 18:44 Calinou can be easily seen in the console 18:46 PenguinDad lol I found a legit way to break through the bedrock in carbone 18:47 zsoltisawesome how? 18:47 PenguinDad just shoot dig arrows at the bedrock 18:47 Calinou oh 18:47 Calinou mobs can destroy it too 18:48 zsoltisawesome dig arrows? 18:48 zsoltisawesome lol 18:48 Calinou dig arrows dig anything, without dropping the dug node, but you get the arrow back 18:48 Calinou crafted using two sticks and a wooden pick 18:48 Calinou PenguinDad, what do you think of the arrow sounds BTW? 18:49 Sokomine how do i tell minetestmapper (the c++ version) to map out the entire map? 18:49 VanessaE use the geometry parameters with really large numbers 18:49 zsoltisawesome like 33000 18:49 zsoltisawesome :D 18:49 * PenguinDad enables sounds 18:50 zsoltisawesome Pew Pew pew! 18:50 VanessaE --geometry -5000:-7500+12000+15000 gives large images 18:50 Calinou they are louder than most nodes, obviously 18:50 Calinou so don't set your sound volume too loud 18:50 Megaf I'd like to actually change the scale, like one pixel/meter 18:50 CraigyDavi Whole map would be --geometry -30000:-30000+60000+60000 18:50 Sokomine i tried it with something like 30000/60000 already. it got killed then :-/ 18:50 Calinou VanessaE, I'd like to see a mapper where, instead of having 1 pixel per node, you have 16 pixels per node; would be nice for small-scale renders 18:50 Sokomine ah yes. so i got the parameters right. unfortionately, the mapper was killed when i tried that. no reason given... 18:51 Calinou dynmap (CraftBukkit plugin) can do that 18:51 CraigyDavi Sokomine, I think you need to explore to the edge of the map you are generating or else it will crash 18:51 Calinou (and with the 16 pixels, you would see the actual texture) 18:51 Megaf is it already 1 pixel/node ? 18:51 Calinou yes 18:51 Sokomine calinou: *nod* i'd also appreciate a mapper where you could see the important parts. something more abstract 18:51 Calinou you can enlarge it by yourself, but it won't replace it by the real texture 18:51 Calinou Sokomine, there's an isometric mapper, not sure if it still works well, not sure if it's fast 18:51 Sokomine we only have those two extremes...exact, pixel-sized mappers, and very small-scale ones for individual houses. nothing which is useful as a real map 18:52 Megaf Would be cool if it could use the actual textures 18:52 CraigyDavi here's the link: https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia 18:52 Calinou https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia and https://github.com/Nemo08/hxmtmapper 18:52 Calinou one in Haxe, one in Python 18:52 Sokomine megaf: some mappers do that. those that display areas of say...128x128 nodes. that works 18:52 zsoltisawesome GITBUG! 18:54 Megaf I'd like an area around 512x512 18:54 Megaf with textures 18:58 Calinou that would be 32 × 32 nodes 18:58 Calinou good for an house, but not more ;) 18:58 Megaf Sorry, I mean, 512 nodes x 512 nodes 19:03 Sokomine hm :) the map i developed my villages mod on certainly looks intresting :) 19:04 VanessaE Calinou: well doing 16 pixels/node wouldn't be too hard I suppose, but it would result in bloody HUGE images and it would mean pulling in all of the actual texture files that go along with the nodes being read in 19:05 VanessaE I expect you'd have to borrow some of the server's functions e.g. interpreting Lua to get node defs -> textures 19:06 * Calinou is using HDX right now, it's quite nice, actually 19:06 Calinou but: water animation (still) is almost invisible (I'd rather see a slight, constant scrolling or such), and the flowing one is not smooth enough 19:06 Calinou VanessaE, that 16 pixels/node mode would be for small areas 19:07 Calinou eg. it'd be fine for 200 × 200 areas 19:07 VanessaE yeah, the water animation still needs work. I'm not happy with it. 19:07 Calinou the hand scares me :S 19:07 VanessaE I'd like to get something like what Google Earth uses 19:07 Calinou it's huge 19:07 VanessaE hah 19:07 Calinou Jungle tree is white? why? 19:07 Calinou I'd rather see green-ish dark brown 19:08 VanessaE I'm also not happy with that one, but I haven't found a better texture uet 19:08 VanessaE yet* 19:09 Calinou also there are a few nodes and items added in Carbone you can texture: bedrock_bedrock.png (Bedrock), throwing_bow_mese.png and throwing_bow_diamond.png, bones.png (new bones, transparent glasslike_framed) 19:09 Calinou bones_bones.png* 19:10 Calinou if you have time ;) 19:12 Calinou oh, bedrock is already done! 19:12 VanessaE wait. 19:12 VanessaE yes, already in there from shadow's mod 19:12 Calinou this pack's mod support never ceases to positively surprise me 19:14 VanessaE :D 19:14 VanessaE I have a decent talent I think, and a hell of a lot of free time on my hands most days :) 19:16 Calinou mod support is mostly a matter of wanting it, sometimes it can be done quite fast 19:16 Calinou there, I found how to make dig arrows not dig bedrock in Carbone 19:16 Calinou else, it's too easy ;) 19:16 zsoltisawesome VanessaE: Moontest support! 19:16 VanessaE working on the gold bow... 19:19 Sokomine gold bow? does it shoot golden arrows? might lead to people jumping into the path :-) 19:19 Calinou it's not gold bow 19:19 VanessaE zsoltisawesome: moontest? 19:19 Calinou mese bow, diamond bow 19:20 Calinou and there are golden arrows, which deal more damage 19:20 VanessaE shit, mese rather 19:20 Calinou which give an use to gold ;) 19:20 VanessaE but I use a gold braid for it rather 19:20 Calinou 6 HP instead of 3 HP 19:20 VanessaE it'll be right, fear not :) 19:20 Calinou it looks like there's no method to get a node's groups? 19:20 Calinou I'd like to make all "unbreakable =1" nodes not breakable by dig arrow, not just bedrock 19:24 Krock Calinou, mean something like minetet.registered_nodes[name].groups ? 19:24 rubenwardy Awards 0.4 released: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4870&start=75#p140345 19:25 Calinou I'll try 19:26 Calinou no 19:26 Calinou I tried to call “minetet”... 19:26 * Jordach grabs a blockmen buildf 19:27 Krock lol typos happen 19:28 Krock Jordach, sfan9's new builds not working? 19:29 Jordach nah 19:29 Jordach just prefer MSVC 19:30 VanessaE Calinou: got a screenshot of the bones you're talking about? 19:30 VanessaE I still haven't supported the default bones (because I don't like that mod :P ) 19:30 PenguinDad how dare you! 19:30 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wyjtOCkK8Sss.jpg 19:31 Calinou emits some light. has some post-process inside it, you drown inside if it you stay too long in 19:31 Krock VanessaE, default bones with punch function is the best of all 19:31 Calinou it's non-walkable 19:31 Calinou I added punch function today, Krock :) 19:31 Krock Calinou: +1 19:31 VanessaE mese and diamond bows just went up. 19:32 Krock punch function is in minetest_next included too 19:37 Krock 5 normal users online and 4 bots... 19:41 PilzAdam VanessaE, have you ever experienced a server getting unresponsive after about 2-4 hours runtime? 19:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: not after that specific amount of time, but Megaf and I have had a situation happen recently (now patched, it seems) where enough users timing out causes a server to become unresponsive to anything 19:44 Jordach Amaz_, feeling like BFD'ing some more? 19:44 Krock ^- and I rarely get a couple of unknown users 19:45 Krock (ignoring Jordach's message) 19:45 Jordach Krock, unicode username 19:45 Krock Jordach, my dummy account "dummy" became unknown too 19:45 Amaz_ Jordach: Okay. 19:48 Calinou Could not open file of texture: UV_rat.png 19:48 Calinou annoying console spa 19:48 Calinou +m 19:48 Calinou I get the same with “oerkki.png” 19:48 Calinou why? these textures are not defined anywhere in my Lua files 19:48 VanessaE weird 19:49 Calinou I'll add dummy textures to make it shut up… 19:49 PilzAdam Calinou, I think it's caused by textures specified in the models 19:53 Calinou still happens 19:54 Calinou found a fix 19:56 PilzAdam Calinou, the textures need to be in the same directory as the model files 19:57 Calinou I removed the texture entries in .x file ;) 20:02 zsoltisawesome lordcirth: you still up for helping with moontest? 20:02 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, depends, have you gotten the basics done? 20:03 zsoltisawesome Well, yea 20:03 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, by which I mean, the air/vacuum interaction? 20:03 Jordach sigh 20:03 Jordach i once burned my house down, then evergreen goes and does it 20:03 lordcirth Jordach, rollback? 20:03 Jordach nope 20:04 Jordach lordcirth, developer worlds 20:04 zsoltisawesome lordcirth: what exactly do you mean 20:05 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, the basics we talked about at the beginning, the abms on vacuum that handle the physics 20:06 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, my suggestion was an abm on vacuum next to air, turns both into half vacuum. half vacuum turns into whatever is next to it 20:06 Jordach !tell EvergreenTree don't burn my fucking house down next time 20:06 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when EvergreenTree is around 20:06 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, but we never did test whether that worked well 20:07 zsoltisawesome ya 20:07 zsoltisawesome well 20:07 zsoltisawesome there is a problem with that 20:07 zsoltisawesome say we have: A | A | V | V 20:08 zsoltisawesome it turns into A | H | H | V 20:08 zsoltisawesome then back into A | A | V | V 20:08 zsoltisawesome so all it would do is make lag 20:10 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, careful with spam, we should PM 20:10 zsoltisawesome lordcirth: #moontest 20:10 Calinou Longer range with hand, more bedrock, fireballs and dig arrows don't dig containers and bedrock, sound volumes tweaked, fixed console spam with mobs. Tweaked mob spawning. 20:15 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/sssB5PAKwuqe.png 20:15 zsoltisawesome i think it should be a little more rare Jordach 20:16 Jordach zsoltisawesome, it's in a somewhat warm climate 20:16 zsoltisawesome ah 20:16 Jordach zsoltisawesome, it's common on purpose 20:16 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/commit/c54ee4cdfc53d338a989e8f0669964b4d4fbff63 , https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/commit/8ba23d377a4c3fedc1cbdd3ef71333b2716a3299 20:16 Jordach because meat is rare and seeds take time, you'll want to scavenge 20:17 Calinou I use non-Git version of HDX, I should clone some day 20:17 PilzAdam Calinou, *days 20:17 Calinou your bones are scary :x 20:17 Calinou PilzAdam, no 20:17 PilzAdam maybe even weeks 20:17 Calinou but they look nice 20:18 VanessaE (ran my usual scaling scrip on them but I didn't hand-tweak the smaller sizes, so the 16 and 32px ones won't look too good compared to 64px+) 20:18 Calinou I use 256px 20:21 Calinou lol @ nyancat 20:21 sfan5 meow 20:21 sfan5 hi everyone 20:21 Jordach meow 20:21 zsoltisawesome Nyan! 20:22 sfan5 zsoltisawesome: にゃん～ 20:22 VanessaE Calinou: that was my real cat some time ago, his name was "Squeak". had to give him up though. Too destructive for this house, but I am told he found a good home :) 20:22 * VanessaE pokes kaeza 20:22 Calinou suggestion: you could use my crosshair found in Carbone, VanessaE 20:22 Calinou it looks much better than the default one, is visible everywhere and makes more sense 20:23 VanessaE link? 20:23 * kaeza pokes VanessaE with a MESE nuke 20:23 kaeza hai 20:23 * sfan5 meows at kaeza 20:23 Calinou https://github.com/Calinou/carbone/blob/master/mods/default/textures/crosshair.png 20:23 * kaeza meows back at sfan5 20:23 * sfan5 purrs at kaeza 20:25 VanessaE hm, a simple circle eh? 20:27 Calinou kaeza, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9157 → I can actually understand this 20:27 Calinou VanessaE, yeah 20:27 Calinou mods/default/textures/crosshair.png: © 2013 ETERNALSOLSTICE – CC BY 3.0 20:27 Calinou is what the README.md says 20:28 VanessaE eternal solstice probably doesn't know you can't copyright simple shapes :) 20:28 VanessaE still, I'll consider it 20:29 Calinou yeah, it's not worth much 20:30 hunterx689 hi? 20:30 sfan5 hello 20:31 Calinou mods/default/textures/crosshair.png: © 2014 ETERNALSOLSTICE – CC BY 3.0: http://quadropolis.us/node/3993 20:31 Calinou more info added 20:31 Calinou that's where I found the crosshair... I use that crosshair in 5 games :P 20:32 Calinou exact same size 20:37 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/-BvwEVUtIx7c.jpg :) 20:38 VanessaE heh 20:40 hunterx689 hi van 20:40 VanessaE hey 20:41 hunterx689 hehehe i found the main base :D 20:42 kaeza Calinou, I have 110 messages on the RSS feed for the wiki, ~60 are /fr :O 20:46 asie i love the modularity of mesecons 20:46 asie which is good as i want to port over gate systems from a sandbox game i did 20:49 hunterx689 hunterz? 20:49 hunterx689 hmmmm 20:49 hunterx689 hey is a way to make meseons a little bit minor laggy? 20:49 VanessaE wire your machines to run slower 20:50 asie yep, use delayers 20:50 VanessaE (as in fewer clock cycles per second, etc) 20:50 hunterx689 hmmmm what about to make our own mobs? 20:51 harrison if a horse wanted to learn about alzheimer's disease 20:51 harrison perhaps it would attend classes 20:51 harrison at a hippocampus 20:51 VanessaE make sure you use as short of wire lengths as possible and as few thigns that change as possible (things that change appearance, including wires, when they turn on/off will cause mesh generation lag in the client, which causes lower fps). make sure you run LuaJIT on the server 20:52 hunterx689 O_o 20:53 Calinou VanessaE, bucket is darker with water than without water? (the outside) 20:53 Calinou looks a bit strange 20:54 hunterx689 hmmm 20:54 hunterx689 wait 20:54 Calinou tweak your graphic settings too 20:54 Calinou VanessaE, they have slow hardware 20:54 Calinou 1.6 GHz CPU, Windows XP 20:55 hunterx689 no calinou the bucket have the same colors 20:56 VanessaE Calinou: rendering bug. 20:56 VanessaE the original imagery is good 20:57 hunterx689 but by the way with the water it creates a optical ilution 20:58 VanessaE Calinou: might be because the empty bucket is grayscale, while the water/lava buckets are RGB 20:58 VanessaE that said, 20:58 VanessaE I can see the difference now to 20:58 VanessaE too* 20:58 VanessaE lemme fix it 20:59 hunterx689 hey van 20:59 Calinou heh, that's strange 20:59 hunterx689 i have a prroblem in versions higher that the 0.4.4 my inventory images get invisible 21:00 hunterx689 and in 0.4.9 the hud (bubbles,hearts and the inventory get invisible) 21:01 hunterx689 there is a way to solve it? 21:03 Jordach hunterx689, mainlist inventory == null? 21:03 hunterx689 hmm 21:03 hunterx689 take my status = 21:04 hunterx689 idk what the mese did this mean 21:04 zsoltisawesome Jordach! 21:04 zsoltisawesome can i have like 2 minutes of your time? 21:04 hunterx689 hmm is 21:05 hunterx689 pg_imgae can be tunred on by using.. 21:05 hunterx689 glsl not availible 21:06 zsoltisawesome could somebody make this texture 20% darker? https://mediacru.sh/xWV41qHN_UgR 21:06 hunterx689 ho this is 21:07 hunterx689 png warning : interlace handling should be turned on when using png_red_image 21:08 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/IcXBMJxEM3sF.png 21:08 Jordach zsoltisawesome, ^ 21:09 zsoltisawesome thanks Jordach 21:09 Jordach (hint, you might want something much more smoother) 21:09 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8730 → may do the textured mapping I wanted, Sokomine 21:09 Calinou (not sure) 21:13 Calinou it's way faster than the default one too 21:16 Calinou I opened a 23552 pixels wide image 21:16 Calinou slow, but no crash 21:16 Calinou using eog 21:21 Jordach boom! 21:21 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BCjUiE-0QQ 21:22 zsoltisawesome it be alllllllllllive! 21:23 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/commit/c151191e0439039561278a4cc0c8fc624f7fdefe 21:23 zsoltisawesome how long did that take to render? 21:24 zsoltisawesome gitbug! 21:25 Calinou gitdoesn'tbughere 21:26 Jordach zsoltisawesome, 30 mins 21:26 dynamodan_ VanessaE I have a question about your signs_ilb, when you get a chance 21:26 zsoltisawesome ilb? 21:26 dynamodan_ yeah the ilb, LOL 21:27 dynamodan_ sorry, meant to say signs_lib 21:27 dynamodan_ or, anyone that might know the answer 21:27 zsoltisawesome "Did you mean: issac?" 21:27 zsoltisawesome google FTW 21:28 Calinou Google FTL. 21:28 Calinou bye 21:28 Jordach there it is 21:28 Jordach bye Calinou 21:28 Calinou nice, in latest Git, singleplayer and local games are much faster 21:29 harrison http://hexnet.org/ 21:30 harrison GLOBAL HEXAGONAL AWARENESS RESOURCE CENTER 21:30 Jordach YARN. idiot 21:32 Amaz_ Is sfan5 here? 21:32 dynamodan_ VanessaE my question about the signs_lib is how to get your nice signs with text, rather than the default native signs 21:36 zsoltisawesome Amaz_: he is 眠り 21:37 PilzAdam harrison, I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 21:37 zsoltisawesome PilzAdam: http://start-irc-bullying.eu/start 21:38 Jordach stfu 21:39 dynamodan_ PilzAdam do you know anything about signs_lib? 21:39 PilzAdam umm... maybe 21:39 PilzAdam do you have a link? 21:40 dynamodan_ https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/tree/master/signs_lib 21:41 dynamodan_ the signs_lib won't override the default built in signs 21:41 PilzAdam ah, yes, thats a fork of my fork of the signs mod 21:41 dynamodan_ oh! 21:41 dynamodan_ maybe yours would work? 21:41 PilzAdam what game do you use? 21:42 dynamodan_ minetest_game 21:42 PilzAdam any other mods? 21:42 dynamodan_ yeah quite a few, homedecor, which requires signs_lib, I assume the one that VanessaE made, 21:42 dynamodan_ dunno 21:43 dynamodan_ technic, worldedit, mesecons, a huge list of mods actually 21:43 dynamodan_ I could strip them all out and try with just homedecor and signs_lib 21:43 PilzAdam looking at the code I don't see why it wouldn't override signs 21:44 PilzAdam can you search if any other mod overrides default:sign_wall too? 21:44 dynamodan_ there are other servers I've encountered that have the same bug 21:44 dynamodan_ bremaweb LandRush, it has signs_lib but they're still the flat native signs 21:45 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/blob/master/signs_lib/init.lua#L169 <- "warning" is not a valid stream 21:45 PilzAdam s/stream/loglevel 21:48 dynamodan_ hah it must be another mod, because I removed all the other mods 21:49 dynamodan_ it works now, so I guess it's down to re-enabling them one by one, see which one is the culprit 21:49 PilzAdam or you just grep for :default:sign_wall 21:49 dynamodan_ yeah been doing that a lot 21:51 dynamodan_ hah it's in the landrush mod 21:51 dynamodan_ probably part of the permission thing 21:52 Jordach dynamodan_, yarp 21:53 Jordach ugh 21:53 dynamodan_ fun. Now just to make the PilzAdam and VanessaE's excellent signs_lib work with LR. 21:53 Jordach what is it with mediacrush being broken again 21:53 dynamodan_ thanks so much guys!! 21:53 asie LR? 21:53 asie and what is signs_lib? 21:53 dynamodan_ LandRush 21:53 dynamodan_ signs_lib is an awesome mod made by PilzAdam, then furthehr modded by VanessaE 21:53 PilzAdam VanessaE, you should add a note in homedecor that it's incompatible with the landrush mod 21:53 dynamodan_ asie scroll up a little ;) 21:54 asie it's great 21:54 asie :D 21:54 Jordach asie, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m3Q0D8Fstb1h.png 21:55 Jordach (dafuq, mediacrush is broken again) 22:02 Jordach PilzAdam, i'm achiving things that is (probably) possible within minetest 22:02 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/JD_oVbAAxYsd.png 22:03 PilzAdam I start to believe that you cause 60% of mediacrush's traffic 22:11 Sakis25 [deleted] 22:12 Sakis25 [deleted] 22:12 Sakis25 [deleted] 22:14 Jordach PilzAdam, lol 22:17 zsoltisawesome Jordach! 22:17 Jordach wat 22:17 Jordach (i seriously wouldn't keep poking me) 22:17 zsoltisawesome how does one do this with blender http://stephaneginier.com/sculptgl/ 22:32 zsoltisawesome hmm 22:32 zsoltisawesome https://mediacru.sh/mm7QSk1LISrk 22:39 zsoltisawesome I had best get going! bye all! 22:39 zsoltisawesome https://github.com/ManOfMinetest24/moontest 22:55 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/listen/clalvzadxudls7u/theevilsisterdevice.ogg 22:55 Jordach (mediacrush doesn't want to finish uploads apparently)