| Time |
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| 00:00 |
Megaf |
Brazil operates a ‘Simplified Tax Regime’, where imports by post or courier valued between US$50 and US$3,000 are subject to a flat 60% Import Tax on the CIF value of the import. |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
scroll down a bit |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
er up a bit |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
this page is too simplified for idiots |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
(not saying you're an idiot) |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
where's the actual duty/import code? |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
It's in Portuguese only http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/aduana/rts.htm#Tributa%C3%A7%C3%A3o |
| 00:01 |
* VanessaE |
lets chromium translate it... |
| 00:02 |
Megaf |
http://translate.google.com.br/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/aduana/rts.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/aduana/rts.htm%2523Tributa%2525C3%2525A7%2525C3%2525A3o%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-nightly%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:unofficial%26channel%3Dfflb |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
already on it. |
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| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
reading... |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
well at least books aren't taxed :P |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
tell the shipper to declare the value at less than $50 then :) |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
that's what the chinese do all the time |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
for the same reason |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
and I've done the same when shipping overseas at my customers' request |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
also for the same reason |
| 00:07 |
Megaf |
There are a handful of things that do work in Brazil |
| 00:08 |
Megaf |
and tax colecting is one of them |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
either that or do what crazyR suggested. Have someone in an overseas-shipping-friendly company buy it for you and ship it you do, declared at a very low value. |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
"..and ship it to you, ..." |
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| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
have some American buy the desired on amazon with free shipping, then they turn around and use US Postal Service Flat Rate Priority to send it to you. it'll be there in about a week and it'll only cost about $16. |
| 00:10 |
Exio4 |
hi |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
hey Exio4 |
| 00:10 |
* Megaf |
looks at VanessaE |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
don't look at me, I'm too poor to do it. |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
plus I can't guarantee that my idea will work |
| 00:11 |
Exio4 |
in argentina since there are a new "import checks" |
| 00:11 |
Exio4 |
they check if what you got is "really" what it says |
| 00:12 |
Exio4 |
if the paper says 25 USD and you got a harddisk and a fan and lots of shit, they won't let you take it |
| 00:12 |
Exio4 |
but if you say that is actually 200 USD when it really was 350~ there is no problem, (unless we're talking about 500 and 1000 and so on :P) |
| 00:13 |
Megaf |
same in Brazil Exio4 |
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VanessaE |
Exio4: what if it's declared as a gift |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
e.g. a birthday present or similar? |
| 00:13 |
Megaf |
if you say something is much cheaper than really is they will tax over a price they believe is the right one |
| 00:14 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: in Brazil it depends on the mood of the tax agent |
| 00:14 |
Megaf |
really |
| 00:14 |
Megaf |
Hi Exio4 |
| 00:14 |
Exio4 |
i don't really know how "gifts" are exent of the taxes |
| 00:14 |
WindHero |
Megaf, apparently someone is looking for you on the server |
| 00:15 |
Exio4 |
i don't think they allow a lot of "overhead" there though |
| 00:15 |
Megaf |
WindHero: who? |
| 00:15 |
WindHero |
PoisonedArrow |
| 00:15 |
Exio4 |
overhead because i don't know a better word for saying price of a thing |
| 00:15 |
Megaf |
WindHero: joing |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: well I'm afraid you're pretty well boned then |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
relocate or push to have that law repealed |
| 00:16 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: Told you, at least they did not tax my Raspberry Pi |
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Exio4 |
VanessaE: look at argentina in the 90s |
| 00:16 |
Exio4 |
we did everything like you said |
| 00:17 |
Exio4 |
i actually think having everything taxed wouldn't be so bad if we actually saw that money going to REAL places |
| 00:17 |
Megaf |
Exio4: same here |
| 00:17 |
Exio4 |
like education, and REAL stuff, not the shitty laptops we get |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
Exio4: there's nothing wrong with *reasonable* taxes. |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
but a 60% import tax plus up to 30% more on top of that? that's unreasonable. |
| 00:18 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: Brazilian people dont mind at all in paying 55%+ of theier salaries in taxes. Only if we could have some return |
| 00:18 |
Exio4 |
s/Brazilian// |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
if your country has no manufacturing capacity to replace that which is not being imported, and it never comes about, then the import taxes serve no purpose but to line some politician's pocket. |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: americans pay about the same after all is said and done. |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
or a little less perhaps |
| 00:19 |
Megaf |
out roads are full of holes, out hospitals doesnt work and you die waiting to be heard, |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
(somewhere way north of 40%, nearly 50%) |
| 00:19 |
Megaf |
well, NOTHING here works but tax |
| 00:19 |
Exio4 |
lol |
| 00:19 |
Exio4 |
the solution is { Taxes } |
| 00:20 |
Megaf |
we easily pay bilions of a 80 meter long bridge |
| 00:20 |
Megaf |
for* |
| 00:20 |
Megaf |
you have no idea how expensive the world cup is going to be here |
| 00:20 |
Exio4 |
i can guess |
| 00:21 |
Exio4 |
we barely have spare money, and when we have, it disappears or is wasted |
| 00:24 |
Exio4 |
i know this may sound like a bit bad but the AUH (spanish link: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asignaci%C3%B3n_Universal_por_Hijo) is like one of the things that makes the "working class" a bit angry |
| 00:24 |
Exio4 |
and the plan "Conectar igualdad", with lots of netbooks! everywhere! |
| 00:24 |
Exio4 |
used for playing counter strike 1.6 and gta vice city at school |
| 00:24 |
Exio4 |
because teachers don't know how to use the system properly |
| 00:25 |
Exio4 |
and yeah, they have servers |
| 00:25 |
Exio4 |
for not letting the kids have facebook at school! |
| 00:25 |
Exio4 |
so they play lan games |
| 00:26 |
Exio4 |
anyway, after three years, i'll be getting my laptop |
| 00:26 |
Exio4 |
i had to make my CUIL three years ago, it is basically a way to track all the people |
| 00:27 |
Exio4 |
my fingerprint and all the shit |
| 00:27 |
Megaf |
Exio4: same here |
| 00:27 |
Megaf |
"we" give laptops to poor kids |
| 00:28 |
Exio4 |
here it is to "kids" |
| 00:29 |
Exio4 |
and also, the AUH means the kid needs to go to the school |
| 00:29 |
Exio4 |
even if the kid is only there for being a bastard to the children that really want to study |
| 00:30 |
Exio4 |
yeah, i think that thing would have been nice in 2002 |
| 00:30 |
Exio4 |
and then said, WHEN it was made, that it would stop existing in 2004-5 |
| 00:31 |
Exio4 |
the problem is that the inflation is flying up, and there are no real numbers |
| 00:31 |
Exio4 |
so basically the numbers the gov "manages" are waay outdated |
| 00:32 |
Exio4 |
Aumentar la matrÃcula escolar. |
| 00:32 |
Exio4 |
Mejorar la asistencia y la retención escolar de los estudiantes. |
| 00:32 |
Exio4 |
"More children @ schools and they stay there" |
| 00:32 |
Exio4 |
nice thing eh |
| 00:35 |
Exio4 |
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3digo_%C3%9Anico_de_Identificaci%C3%B3n_Laboral wtf Visual Basic |
| 00:41 |
WindHero |
Megaf, he's back |
| 00:44 |
WindHero |
someone also needs interact |
| 00:45 |
Inocudom |
Mighty storms are moving across the United States. |
| 00:46 |
WindHero |
minus Hawaii |
| 00:46 |
Exio4 |
i thought you didn't have storms |
| 00:46 |
Exio4 |
but tornados |
| 00:47 |
Inocudom |
USA is the tornado capital of the planet. We also get hurricanes and Derichos. |
| 00:47 |
WindHero |
Hawaii gets hurricanes once in a blue moon, but they usually pass by us |
| 00:48 |
Inocudom |
In essence, the USA is the windiest country on the planet because of those tornadoes. |
| 00:48 |
Exio4 |
However, the vast majority of tornadoes occur in the Tornado Alley region of the United States |
| 00:49 |
Exio4 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado |
| 00:49 |
Inocudom |
Most of them do, but they can happen in North Carolina too, and they did. |
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WindHero |
Megaf: when you get back, someone back on the other server needed interact |
| 00:51 |
WindHero |
their name was dookie011 |
| 00:51 |
WindHero |
but they logged off a short while ago |
| 00:51 |
Inocudom |
Enke, did you know that xyz made a new Windows build of Freeminer recently. Look for it in Windows Builds in the Freeminer forums. |
| 00:52 |
Inocudom |
You can test the indev farmesh feature with that build. |
| 00:52 |
Exio4 |
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Globdisttornado.jpg wtf |
| 00:55 |
Enke |
Did you see CraigiDavi's build? |
| 00:55 |
Enke |
I'm using that one. |
| 00:55 |
Inocudom |
Did he just post one? I will go check. |
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Inocudom |
Bye. |
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MegAFK |
Good night |
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WindHero |
Well that's convenient |
| 03:30 |
WindHero |
while coding my lockpicks, it just so happens that picking a chest one level higher than the pick of choice breaks it without fail |
| 03:30 |
WindHero |
*the pick, that is |
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WindHero |
huh, with the minetest-dev channel I'm getting an error saying it can't send messages to it |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
only real IRC clients are allowed |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
webchat is muted there. |
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VanessaE |
use hexchat, xchat, mirc, etc etc. |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
wb, RealBadAngel |
| 03:57 |
WindHero |
weird |
| 03:58 |
WindHero |
it worked yesterday for some reason |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
not weird, it wasn't ever supposed to work anyway |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
too much off-topic chatter from webchat users in general, that's why it's muted there |
| 03:59 |
WindHero |
I guess I'll just ask here then |
| 03:59 |
WindHero |
until I get a client app tomorrow |
| 03:59 |
WindHero |
ah, I see |
| 03:59 |
WindHero |
is it possible to override nodes with the form of minetest.register_node(name.."_t_1", {stuff}) in their original code? |
| 04:00 |
WindHero |
i.e., minetest.register_node(:name.."_t_1", {stuff}) |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
yes, there is a minetest.override_item() call I believe it's called |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
and you call it just like you just wrote there. |
| 04:00 |
WindHero |
ah, so that's the way around it |
| 04:00 |
WindHero |
thank you |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
minetest.override_item("nodename", {new def}) |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
(where the new def has just the few things that need changed) |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1244 |
| 04:02 |
WindHero |
oh, so it even lets you just replace one function while keeping the rest in-tact |
| 04:02 |
WindHero |
that will make editing [doors] so much easier |
| 04:02 |
WindHero |
thank you again |
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lordcirth |
WindHero, So I improved my trap :) It has 2 luacontrollers now for all the ports. |
| 04:22 |
WindHero |
cool! |
| 04:22 |
WindHero |
catch anyone yet? ;) |
| 04:23 |
lordcirth |
WindHero, nope, singleplayer only. although I could run it as a server briefly if you want to check it out |
| 04:24 |
WindHero |
eh, not right now, kinda multitasking |
| 04:24 |
lordcirth |
WindHero, ya too late tonight anyway. let me know later if you want to see |
| 04:24 |
WindHero |
gotta make sure my changes to doors are carried through |
| 04:26 |
WindHero |
yay, it works |
| 04:26 |
WindHero |
now I just gotta make that mesecons trapchest, and I'm good to go |
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WindHero |
gonna log off a while though |
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reactor |
Eh! |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: o/ |
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RealBadAngel |
hi PilzAdam |
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Krock |
Helllo |
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PenguinDad |
A wild Krock appears! |
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Krock |
Hungry...let's see if penguins are tasty |
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* PenguinDad |
uses minetest.get_player_sysinfo() at Krock |
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* Krock |
returns nil |
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* Krock |
notices, userscrips.org is under DDoS attack |
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* Krock |
sends modifed HTTP user agent to PenguinDad: "Mozilla/5.0 (MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/5.0)" |
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crazyR |
guys can you think of a reason why my server isnt generating and lava lakes. im using standard setting mapgen v6 |
| 11:48 |
crazyR |
*any |
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Krock |
crazyR, would be nice if lava is aliassed in the game |
| 11:49 |
Krock |
minetest.register_alias("mapgen_water_source", "default:water_source") |
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crazyR |
what i mean is there is no lava other than what the nether mod created. its litrally not generating it, |
| 11:52 |
Krock |
maybe added nocaves to the settings? |
| 11:52 |
Krock |
*mg_params |
| 11:52 |
Krock |
*lafs |
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crazyR |
is that what creates them |
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Krock |
it needs caves |
| 11:52 |
crazyR |
thanks |
| 11:52 |
Krock |
np |
| 11:52 |
crazyR |
its wierd, on clinet they are created by defualt |
| 11:53 |
crazyR |
*single player |
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crazyR |
mg_flags = trees, caves <-- thats the current setting for the mg_flags |
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* Krock |
still needs a bmp/png/gif map generating tool which suports leveldb and win32 >.< |
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* Krock |
thinks about making one self in c# |
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Krock |
wtf? minetest crashes on generating new leveldb |
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Krock |
-map |
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Krock |
sfan5! |
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PenguinDad |
Krock! |
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Krock |
PenguinDad! You're not sfan5! |
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Megaf |
Hi all |
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Krock |
newest win32 build + "backend = leveldb" = crash with no error log |
| 12:13 |
Krock |
hi alone |
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Megaf |
VanessaE: irssi and weechat for the win |
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PenguinDad |
Megaf: o/ |
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Krock |
what?? Nettalk ftw |
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Krock |
(ftw in meaning of "for the win", not like "fk da world") |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: weechat is better :p |
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Hirato |
proller__: not cool man, defaulting to to RUN_IN_PLACE |
| 12:16 |
proller__ |
why? |
| 12:16 |
proller__ |
99% peoples who compile from git use it |
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Hirato |
it broke my pkgbuilds :( |
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proller__ |
no problem to add it to all 2-3 packages |
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Hirato |
and you're supposed to have shit in a home directory somewhere |
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proller__ |
cmake -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 |
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proller__ |
if you clone from git - you already have shit |
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* Krock |
loves his single-minetest-folder at E:ProgrammeMinetest :) |
| 12:19 |
Hirato |
windows is a different beastie :P |
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Krock |
Not possible to mess up folders there (almost not) |
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Hirato |
I never test running any of my stuff without a home folder |
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Hirato |
helps keep that directory clean and free of personal/user files |
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* Megaf |
listening the police! What do I do now? |
| 12:22 |
Krock |
jump off a cobble tower -' |
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Krock |
*-^ |
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PenguinDad |
Turn off the music ;) |
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Megaf |
PenguinDad: good man |
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Megaf |
Im listening The Police - Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic |
| 12:24 |
Krock |
Magic? there you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiryJwvDtc |
| 12:24 |
Krock |
~title |
| 12:24 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: Pilot - Magic - You Tube Exclusive! - IN STEREO 1975 - YouTube |
| 12:24 |
Krock |
<3 ShadowBot |
| 12:24 |
ShadowBot |
04♥ Krock. |
| 12:24 |
Megaf |
wow |
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PenguinDad |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Pilot - Magic - You Tube Exclusive! - IN STEREO 1975 - YouTube |
| 12:24 |
Megaf |
colorful red filled heart |
| 12:24 |
PenguinDad |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 12:24 |
MinetestBot |
<3 PenguinDad |
| 12:26 |
Megaf |
change the world, by eric clapton, good music too |
| 12:27 |
Megaf |
common, everyone listening this lovely radio! http://slowradio.be/ |
| 12:29 |
Megaf |
They need help! |
| 12:29 |
Megaf |
The only good music commercial free radio |
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* Hirato |
loads up jamendo |
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PenguinDad |
Here is a free music radio http://theradio.cc/ |
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* Krock |
doesn't need internet for listening radio |
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PenguinDad |
do you know any non internet radio that plays only free music? |
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Krock |
PenguinDad, how to call something "free"? |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: jeija mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix #140 once again a6916191aa 2014-04-30T14:44:47+02:00 http://git.io/NG6tXQ |
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crazyR |
when trying to call this 'minetest.get_player_privs(name)' function i get this error and ideas: attempt to call field 'get_player_information' (a nil value) ? |
| 13:09 |
crazyR |
sorry wronf function |
| 13:09 |
crazyR |
*minetest.get_player_information(name) |
| 13:10 |
Krock |
look up doc/lua_api.txt |
| 13:10 |
crazyR |
im on it now. all that tells me is what info i can grab. |
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PenguinDad |
crazyR: latest git? |
| 13:18 |
crazyR |
yep |
| 13:18 |
crazyR |
well its the latest as of 2 days ago |
| 13:19 |
PenguinDad |
~help tell |
| 13:19 |
ShadowBot |
PenguinDad: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. |
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Krock |
hey john! |
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crazyR |
PenguinDad, Krock: the wierd thing is it works fine in local multiplayer |
| 13:29 |
Krock |
crazyR, the weird thing is, I can't create leveldb maps |
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PenguinDad |
hello john_minetest |
| 13:33 |
crazyR |
lol, ouch, i cant complain on that issue, its working fine for me for once |
| 13:37 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
| 13:39 |
Krock |
hi r b n a d |
| 13:39 |
Krock |
u e w r y |
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rubenwardy |
ha |
| 13:40 |
rubenwardy |
nice |
| 13:41 |
Krock |
do I get a cookie for this work? |
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rubenwardy |
Of course! |
| 13:49 |
Krock |
:D |
| 13:50 |
Krock |
ℓσℓ тнαт'ƨ Ò“Ê‹Ð¸Ð¸Ê |
| 13:51 |
PenguinDad |
Ò“Ê‹Ð¸Ð¸Ê Ñ‚Ð½Î±Ñ‚? |
| 13:54 |
PenguinDad |
σ_σ |
| 13:54 |
Krock |
Õ_Õ |
| 13:55 |
PenguinDad |
ó_Ò |
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| 14:01 |
Krock |
öäüéà è |
| 14:01 |
PenguinDad |
Äüßerhälb |
| 14:01 |
Krock |
Even more keys |
| 14:01 |
Krock |
Äüßërhälb |
| 14:02 |
Krock |
^- this |
| 14:02 |
PenguinDad |
ĸay |
| 14:06 |
FreeFull |
Try Ç» |
| 14:07 |
Krock |
Where can I buy a Strawberry e? |
| 14:12 |
Krock |
ßchwërgëwïcht? |
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| 14:19 |
Krock |
john_minetest, ask Calinou |
| 14:19 |
Krock |
they're natural |
| 14:20 |
FreeFull |
ëüŕóṕé |
| 14:20 |
Krock |
wut? i can't reproduce the r with ´ |
| 14:24 |
FreeFull |
ẃéŕýúÃóṕáśǵḱĺźćǘńḿ |
| 14:28 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam is back! |
| 14:28 |
Krock |
OMG |
| 14:32 |
rubenwardy |
? |
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PenguinDad |
Å• |
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| 15:03 |
Jordach |
w00t! |
| 15:05 |
Jordach |
MONEY |
| 15:06 |
PenguinDad |
*MONEYS |
| 15:06 |
PenguinDad |
:p |
| 15:06 |
* Jordach |
got an extra £11 quid in UK Gov. cash |
| 15:07 |
Jordach |
NOTICE: BFD DEVELOPMENT HAS STOPPED FOR 1 WEEK |
| 15:07 |
Jordach |
(i have Pokémon Y on 3DS) |
| 15:08 |
Krock |
Jordach, WHY? Oh noez! plez not! |
| 15:08 |
Jordach |
Krock, seen the message from MinetestBot |
| 15:08 |
Krock |
Jordach, no. *scrols up* |
| 15:09 |
PenguinDad |
what has PilzAdam to do with BFD development? |
| 15:09 |
Jordach |
Krock i, too, used to be like you: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&start=275 |
| 15:09 |
Krock |
lol |
| 15:11 |
Krock |
Jordach, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=11117#p11117 good old times |
| 15:12 |
Jordach |
Krock, notice that it was ON the SAME acer tower as yours and running XP |
| 15:12 |
Hirato |
1 week? |
| 15:12 |
Jordach |
we happen to have shared our history :P |
| 15:12 |
Hirato |
I think someone's a little optimistic |
| 15:12 |
Krock |
Jordach, yes I know. |
| 15:12 |
* Krock |
needs to get jordach's new PC |
| 15:12 |
Krock |
..and throw it in some cloning machine |
| 15:13 |
Jordach |
Krock, any quad core (AMD-A8 / Intel i5 will suffice btw) |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
i took the A10 as it was more value for money than the A8 (and had more specs too - like twice the stuff bundled) |
| 15:15 |
Krock |
ok |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
Krock, the A10 does have a turbo mode (hint - it can go ALL THE WAY upto 6.0ghz) |
| 15:18 |
Taoki |
Hey... I have a question about something. Is it possible to modify the size of a player's inventory? I'm thinking of a mod where some players can have a bigger inventory, whereas others might have no inventory at all. Is this possible? |
| 15:18 |
Krock |
Jordach, ah yes, I know those turbo buttoms from my mother's 90' PC, speedup from 75 MHz to 80! WOW |
| 15:18 |
Krock |
*buttons |
| 15:18 |
Taoki |
By no inventory at all, I mean neither inventory nor hotbar, and no ability to hold or carry any item. I wonder if that's doable in any form |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
Taoki, look at PilzAdam's nodetopia |
| 15:18 |
PenguinDad |
Taoki: nodetopia |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
that has something like it (different inv size) |
| 15:18 |
Taoki |
Ok :) |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
Krock! |
| 15:20 |
Krock |
sfan5! Help! |
| 15:20 |
rubenwardy |
in #minetest-mods: <rubenwardy> You could remove the hotbar from the HUD, and overwrite the inventory formspec for no inventory |
| 15:21 |
sfan5 |
Krock: I was able to reproduce your problem, but I dunno what causes it |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
sfan5, seems like libleveldb.dll causes those problems |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
could have a typo in it? no idea |
| 15:22 |
sfan5 |
I might have to recompile it |
| 15:22 |
sfan5 |
*sigh* |
| 15:22 |
sfan5 |
no it couldn't |
| 15:22 |
Taoki |
PenguinDad: Where do I find the feature there? |
| 15:23 |
PenguinDad |
look at the backpack thing |
| 15:24 |
Taoki |
Not seeing any backpack |
| 15:25 |
PenguinDad |
Taoki: https://github.com/PilzAdam/nodetopia/blob/master/mods/backpack/init.lua |
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| 15:27 |
PenguinDad |
player:get_inventory():set_size("main", 0) |
| 15:27 |
PenguinDad |
^ Taoki |
| 15:27 |
Krock |
srsly? what's the use of remove inventory space? where will the items go to? |
| 15:27 |
Taoki |
Nice |
| 15:28 |
Taoki |
Does that affect the hotbar? |
| 15:28 |
Taoki |
I mean, the hotbar isn't a special inventory slot right? Just a part of the user's inventory |
| 15:28 |
Krock |
player.hud_set_hotbar_itemcount(player, 6) |
| 15:28 |
Krock |
set to 0? |
| 15:28 |
Taoki |
Oh, nice. If it works that way it's all good |
| 15:28 |
Taoki |
Sure :) |
| 15:29 |
Taoki |
The number must be at least 1 though. Can prolly find a way around that however |
| 15:30 |
* PenguinDad |
is listening to czech heavy metal |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
Taoki, just allow 1 inventory slot..enough space for 99 cobble through |
| 15:30 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: How do I use the detector tube? |
| 15:31 |
Krock |
Megaf, connect it on both sides with normal tubes, and on one side with a mesecon |
| 15:31 |
Krock |
(ansering cuz vanessae maybe is afk or offline) |
| 15:32 |
Krock |
It will send a mesecon signal when a item goes through it |
| 15:32 |
Megaf |
Krock: so I did right, but nothing happens |
| 15:33 |
Krock |
Megaf, maybe the signal is just over 0.01s? try again |
| 15:36 |
Megaf |
I just worked once |
| 15:36 |
Megaf |
it doesnt work very well |
| 15:36 |
Krock |
but it does |
| 15:38 |
sfan5 |
meow |
| 15:38 |
Jordach |
i am not a smart person |
| 15:38 |
Jordach |
just tried to put my headphones to hear the 3DS better |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
wow. post nr. 14'000 posted by MirceaKitsune |
| 15:38 |
Jordach |
and its in the PC socket |
| 15:39 |
Taoki |
yay |
| 15:39 |
Taoki |
Had no idea what I just did :P |
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| 15:41 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 15:41 |
Krock |
hi. |
| 15:41 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Calinou |
| 15:41 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, would doubling mob spawn ABM interval (from 30 to 60 seconds), and dividing chance by 2, reduce server load? |
| 15:42 |
Calinou |
it looks like mob spawns are the most demanding thing on the server |
| 15:42 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, yes, that could work |
| 15:42 |
Calinou |
I'll try doing that then |
| 15:42 |
PilzAdam |
I think I already did that in Nodetopia |
| 15:43 |
PilzAdam |
you could even divide it by 8 or 16 |
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| 15:43 |
Calinou |
it checks for two air nodes: checking for only one may be faster? |
| 15:43 |
Calinou |
(I don't care if some mobs spawn with head in stone, not a big problem) |
| 15:44 |
Calinou |
actually may help me a bit :D |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, 8 or 16 seems like a lot, that would mean mob spawns occur every 4 or 8 minutes |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
I'll try 120 second interval |
| 15:48 |
Calinou |
heh, I saw 3 rats spawn at the same time |
| 15:51 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, I get short freezes on mob spawns now |
| 15:52 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, divide the time by 16 and multiply the chance by 16 |
| 15:52 |
PilzAdam |
its the same spawn rate but less nodes per step |
| 15:53 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 15:53 |
Calinou |
I thought you wanted me to make the ABM run less often |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
also, did a nice thing: mobs always jump while attacking :D |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
harder to hit, follows you faster when climbling up |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, how would I divide 30 by 16? :p |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
how often should the ABM run? |
| 15:55 |
PilzAdam |
you could try making it 1 second |
| 15:55 |
Calinou |
won't that choke the server? |
| 15:55 |
Calinou |
I'd say 2 seconds, like leaf decay |
| 15:58 |
Calinou |
seems better now (with 2 seconds) |
| 15:59 |
markveidemanis |
!up sslv.tk 30010 |
| 15:59 |
MinetestBot |
sslv.tk:30010 is up (344ms) |
| 15:59 |
markveidemanis |
Mm |
| 15:59 |
markveidemanis |
DNS is much quicker than I thought |
| 16:00 |
markveidemanis |
like, 20 sec ago |
| 16:00 |
markveidemanis |
!server players:least |
| 16:00 |
MinetestBot |
markveidemanis: Road | setun.net:30002 | Clients: 0/497, 31 | Version: 0.4.9.3-free-dev | ping: 0.060 |
| 16:00 |
markveidemanis |
!server players:least |
| 16:00 |
MinetestBot |
markveidemanis: Road | setun.net:30002 | Clients: 0/497, 31 | Version: 0.4.9.3-free-dev | ping: 0.060 |
| 16:00 |
markveidemanis |
Erm... Not hod i'd do it |
| 16:01 |
markveidemanis |
0/143666931 players lol |
| 16:01 |
PenguinDad |
!server port:most |
| 16:01 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: No results |
| 16:01 |
PenguinDad |
!server players:most |
| 16:01 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: RPi Game Test | minetest.megaf.info:30001 | Clients: 20/40, 28 | Version: 0.4.9-RPi | ping: 0.322 |
| 16:01 |
MegafK |
!seen shadowzone |
| 16:01 |
MinetestBot |
MegafK: shadowzone was last seen at 2014-04-07 16:51:17 UTC on #minetest |
| 16:01 |
markveidemanis |
!server players:median |
| 16:01 |
MinetestBot |
markveidemanis: No results |
| 16:02 |
PenguinDad |
!server ping:least |
| 16:02 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Clip Public Server | 188.40.69.134 | Clients: 15/24, 31 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.002 |
| 16:02 |
Krock |
~up minetest.ntdll.net |
| 16:02 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: minetest.ntdll.net port 30000 is up (215ms) |
| 16:02 |
MegafK |
!tell shadowzone I granted you privs, so you can grant interact to people on Pixel Art |
| 16:02 |
MinetestBot |
MegafK: I'll pass that on when shadowzone is around |
| 16:02 |
Krock |
woo |
| 16:02 |
markveidemanis |
Hmm |
| 16:02 |
markveidemanis |
What if the bots show ping differently |
| 16:03 |
markveidemanis |
!up sslv.tk 30010 |
| 16:03 |
MinetestBot |
sslv.tk:30010 is up (431ms) |
| 16:03 |
markveidemanis |
~up sslv.tk 30010 |
| 16:03 |
MegafK |
~up minetest.megaf.info 30004 |
| 16:03 |
ShadowBot |
markveidemanis: sslv.tk port 30010 is up (1611ms) |
| 16:03 |
ShadowBot |
MegafK: minetest.megaf.info port 30004 is down |
| 16:03 |
Krock |
what if bots are located on diffrent places on the world? |
| 16:03 |
markveidemanis |
woah yep |
| 16:03 |
MegafK |
~up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 16:03 |
ShadowBot |
MegafK: minetest.megaf.info port 30003 is up (563ms) |
| 16:03 |
MegafK |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 16:03 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (577ms) |
| 16:03 |
Krock |
plz stop |
| 16:03 |
MegafK |
bots are lagged |
| 16:03 |
markveidemanis |
Try connecting to sslv.tk:30010 |
| 16:03 |
PenguinDad |
ShadowBot is in the us IIRC |
| 16:03 |
ShadowBot |
PenguinDad: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 16:03 |
markveidemanis |
I was told everyone times out |
| 16:04 |
Krock |
join inchranet irc, #botwar |
| 16:04 |
Krock |
there's shadowbot sandbox |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
now you can meet tree and sand monsters in caves in Carbone! free sand and saplings for everyone! |
| 16:04 |
Krock |
I've read "sand saplings" wtf? |
| 16:04 |
Krock |
lol |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
plant sand! |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
git commit . -m "Add sand saplings as requested by Krock." |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
oops, wrong window |
| 16:06 |
PenguinDad |
:D |
| 16:06 |
markveidemanis |
Just how |
| 16:07 |
PenguinDad |
the sand monsters are running away from me xD |
| 16:09 |
markveidemanis |
ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(6/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 2 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter) |
| 16:12 |
PenguinDad |
markveidemanis: only a normal timeout |
| 16:12 |
markveidemanis |
How do i alter the time? |
| 16:13 |
PenguinDad |
why would you need to? |
| 16:15 |
markveidemanis |
Because there's a crapload to load |
| 16:15 |
markveidemanis |
num_emerge_threads = 3 |
| 16:15 |
markveidemanis |
media_fetch_threads = 1 |
| 16:15 |
markveidemanis |
Is that effective? |
| 16:15 |
markveidemanis |
( I have 4 processors ) |
| 16:15 |
PenguinDad |
30 seconds is not enough? |
| 16:16 |
markveidemanis |
WOah no definitely |
| 16:16 |
markveidemanis |
Not on this connection |
| 16:16 |
PenguinDad |
markveidemanis: media_fetch_threads is client side |
| 16:16 |
markveidemanis |
okay, 4 then |
| 16:17 |
markveidemanis |
What about this timeout |
| 16:17 |
PenguinDad |
num_emerge_threads is server side |
| 16:18 |
PenguinDad |
and media_fetch_threads only works on servers with remote_media |
| 16:20 |
markveidemanis |
What about this timeout though? |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
I'll put my num_emerge_threads to 8 to try |
| 16:21 |
Calinou |
271% CPU used by Minetest \o/ |
| 16:21 |
Megaf |
13:09:27 markveidemanis | ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(6/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 2 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter) |
| 16:22 |
Megaf |
That's a work around for a bug |
| 16:22 |
markveidemanis |
wha? |
| 16:22 |
Megaf |
may be someone using a messy client on a tablet |
| 16:27 |
PenguinDad |
play singleplayer in latest git and look at the console when you leave the world with "exit to os" |
| 16:28 |
PenguinDad |
sometimes you get a timeout |
| 16:32 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, or just keep the console open |
| 16:33 |
PenguinDad |
I didn't say when to look at the console |
| 16:33 |
Krock |
nvm |
| 16:40 |
Krock |
sfan5, any success? |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
Krock: I did not try yet, sorry |
| 16:45 |
Krock |
sfan5, oh ok. It's not very important but still a dust corn in the eye |
| 16:45 |
* markveidemanis |
migrates to sqlite3 |
| 16:45 |
* Krock |
headdesks |
| 16:45 |
sfan5 |
markveidemanis: lolwut |
| 16:46 |
markveidemanis |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2014-03-27#i_3630978 |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
Jordach, happy birthday |
| 16:52 |
sfan5 |
Krock: minetest is in germany & ShadowBot in US |
| 16:52 |
Krock |
k |
| 16:53 |
markveidemanis |
What if i use Tor for a minetest server? |
| 16:54 |
Krock |
markveidemanis, can't trust server admins? lol |
| 16:54 |
Megaf |
markveidemanis: really laggy |
| 16:54 |
sfan5 |
markveidemanis: you can't |
| 16:54 |
sfan5 |
tor only transfers TCP trafficx |
| 16:54 |
sfan5 |
-x |
| 16:55 |
Megaf |
sfan5: you can always use some kind of proxy |
| 16:55 |
sfan5 |
UDP in TCP deafeats any purpose in udp |
| 16:56 |
sfan5 |
Krock: try replacing libleveldb.dll with http://sfan5.duckdns.org/libleveldb.dll |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
404 Not Found |
| 16:56 |
sfan5 |
try again |
| 16:58 |
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| 16:59 |
Exio4CI |
yay got free laptop |
| 16:59 |
sfan5 |
wat |
| 16:59 |
sfan5 |
give it to me |
| 16:59 |
Exio4CI |
gov laptop |
| 16:59 |
Exio4CI |
it is shit but is free |
| 16:59 |
Krock |
sfan5, you earned 20 karma |
| 16:59 |
Krock |
thx :D |
| 16:59 |
sfan5 |
it works? |
| 16:59 |
Exio4CI |
and there is no real use outside playing CS1.6 and GTA VC |
| 16:59 |
sfan5 |
Exio4CI: win XP? |
| 16:59 |
Krock |
yeah works perfect |
| 16:59 |
sfan5 |
ok good |
| 17:00 |
Exio4CI |
windows 7 pro |
| 17:00 |
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| 17:00 |
Exio4CI |
and a argentinian linux distro |
| 17:00 |
Exio4CI |
both are shit |
| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
hello OldCoder |
| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
install linux mint |
| 17:00 |
Krock |
don't |
| 17:00 |
Exio4CI |
so i'm going to remove them, make a backup of the apps |
| 17:00 |
OldCoder |
sfan5, Hello back |
| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
(on an usb if you're not allowed to touch the hdd) |
| 17:00 |
OldCoder |
Mint is O.K. |
| 17:00 |
Exio4CI |
lol linux mint |
| 17:00 |
Krock |
winfows XP ftw |
| 17:00 |
OldCoder |
Depending on purpose |
| 17:00 |
Exio4CI |
it is mine |
| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
wub wub wub wub wub wub |
| 17:01 |
Exio4CI |
i'll go with debian stable and a sid lxc |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
damnit |
| 17:01 |
* OldCoder |
got tired of fixing a roommate's Windows 8 laptop so he scrubbed it and installed Mint 16. Roommate says, "Just like Windows!" and is telling his friends to switch. |
| 17:01 |
Exio4CI |
of course, i'll setup distcc here and in my debian sid |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
why is the FTP for sfan5.pf-control.de not working.. |
| 17:01 |
Krock |
.pf-control.de? |
| 17:01 |
Exio4CI |
because i haxd it with my windows 7 pro laptop |
| 17:02 |
Exio4CI |
you should be scared sfan5, VRY scared |
| 17:02 |
* Calinou |
updated to Firefox 29 |
| 17:02 |
sfan5 |
Krock: yep ,that's my secondary homepage |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
GNOME 3, hello |
| 17:02 |
Exio4CI |
Calinou: hi :D |
| 17:02 |
Krock |
sfan5, hmm works fine for me there :3 |
| 17:02 |
Krock |
(the FTP access on my page) |
| 17:02 |
Exio4CI |
Firefox 12 here |
| 17:02 |
sfan5 |
it mostly hosts the packages I use for win builds |
| 17:02 |
* Krock |
updated to fake-fox 29 |
| 17:02 |
Exio4CI |
i didn't touch anything yet |
| 17:02 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: and do you like the new design? |
| 17:02 |
* Krock |
just changed the useragent |
| 17:03 |
Exio4CI |
damn |
| 17:03 |
Exio4CI |
the spanish keymap is a pain |
| 17:03 |
sfan5 |
Status:Verbindungsversuch fehlgeschlagen mit "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server". |
| 17:03 |
sfan5 |
>:( |
| 17:03 |
Exio4CI |
too used to us keymap |
| 17:03 |
Krock |
sfan5, try passive connecting |
| 17:03 |
sfan5 |
uhh wat |
| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
if port 21 does not accept connections active <-> passive will not do anything |
| 17:04 |
Krock |
"Probieren geht über studieren." |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
sfan5, better than the old one |
| 17:05 |
sfan5 |
I think it's better too |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
there's no point in complaining about it |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
I'll probably like it more |
| 17:05 |
sfan5 |
golem.de wrote an article about it saying that the "not like" rates (feedback) got higher |
| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
uhh wait |
| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
heise.de* |
| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kommentar-Worst-Firefox-EVER-2180139.html |
| 17:06 |
Exio4CI |
:( |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
typical computer users. |
| 17:08 |
Exio4CI |
i have mixed feelings with it |
| 17:08 |
Exio4CI |
:D |
| 17:08 |
Exio4CI |
four threads |
| 17:08 |
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| 17:08 |
Exio4CI |
two cores |
| 17:09 |
Exio4CI |
i wonder how many minutes will it need for compiling the kernel |
| 17:09 |
hoodedice |
Hello miners! |
| 17:09 |
Exio4CI |
i guess 10-15 |
| 17:09 |
Exio4CI |
hello hoodedices |
| 17:09 |
Exio4CI |
:D |
| 17:10 |
Exio4CI |
Tamaño de memoria máximo (depende del tipo de memoria) 2 GB |
| 17:10 |
hoodedice |
=D |
| 17:10 |
Exio4CI |
wtf max memory 2gb!? cpu-capped?! |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
ooh |
| 17:10 |
Exio4CI |
i can't have more?! |
| 17:10 |
Exio4CI |
damn |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
there are thunderbolts outside |
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| 17:12 |
Calinou |
hi hoodedice |
| 17:12 |
hoodedice |
hello |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
<hoodedice> Hello miners! |
| 17:12 |
hoodedice |
=D |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
is what monsters in Carbone say when they attack you (they really do... or not.) |
| 17:13 |
hoodedice |
rly? nice feature |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
I could add that |
| 17:13 |
hoodedice |
ya, might be good |
| 17:13 |
hoodedice |
I hate to do this, but I have to pack up this laptop, so I might disconnect |
| 17:14 |
hoodedice |
I'm saying this because I just connected, and I've been warned against disconnecting too quickly |
| 17:14 |
hoodedice |
k bai |
| 17:14 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 17:14 |
hoodedice |
Weren't you playing Pokemon? |
| 17:15 |
hoodedice |
Go back to your game, you heartless jerk |
| 17:15 |
hoodedice |
*sob* |
| 17:15 |
Exio4CI |
i{m out |
| 17:15 |
Exio4CI |
see ya |
| 17:15 |
Krock |
bai |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
DuckDuckGo doesn't like me, if I type my mod names in them, they are not in the first page |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
however... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=xfences |
| 17:19 |
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| 17:20 |
Krock |
kaeza, HAPPY B-DAY! |
| 17:20 |
kaeza |
thanks :D |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
kaeza: is it your birthday today? |
| 17:21 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
ooh |
| 17:21 |
kaeza |
and Jordach's |
| 17:21 |
* sfan5 |
throws a bucket of love and birthday wishes at kaeza and Jordach |
| 17:22 |
kaeza |
awww thanks <3 |
| 17:22 |
* kaeza |
hands Jordach a beer |
| 17:23 |
* sfan5 |
gives kaeza a beer |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
Krock: do you have a 64-bit system? |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
D: more thunderbolts outside |
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| 17:23 |
Krock |
sfan5, Windows XP SP3 Home x86 |
| 17:23 |
Jordach |
thats better |
| 17:23 |
Krock |
32bit |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
you should upgrade |
| 17:24 |
Krock |
I upgraded my useragent. that's enough |
| 17:24 |
kaeza |
Jordach, 0 days \o/ |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
Krock: IE (even if you don't use it, it is used in serveral places) has an un-patched 0day floating around |
| 17:24 |
Inocudom |
I must ask the developers to consider the advancements made by darkrose concerning nodeboxes. |
| 17:24 |
Krock |
sfan5, all IE versions? |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
all of them! |
| 17:24 |
Krock |
ack |
| 17:25 |
Inocudom |
Better lighting, diagonal sides. |
| 17:25 |
Krock |
damn you hackers! |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: happy birthday |
| 17:26 |
kaeza |
thank you V :) |
| 17:26 |
Inocudom |
Happy birthday kaexa. |
| 17:26 |
Inocudom |
Happy birthday kaeza. |
| 17:26 |
kaeza |
thanks :P |
| 17:27 |
Inocudom |
VanessaE, what do you know about the advancements that darkrose made concerning nodeboxes? |
| 17:27 |
* Krock |
searchs in google hopeless for "3rd party windows xp updates" |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: only that she only works with Minetest Classic, not 0.4.x |
| 17:28 |
sfan5 |
Krock: you can pay M$ with $50,000 to get a support contract |
| 17:28 |
Krock |
sfan5, eh. no thanks. |
| 17:29 |
Inocudom |
I know that, but the developers of Minetest main don't consider her efforts with smoother lighting and diagonal sides. |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: and it serves people right for still using IE, let alone doing so under XP |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
I guess her efforts can't be forward-ported to 0.4.x |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
but I'm glad she fixed that |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
that is a major issue |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel wants to solve it for 0.4.x by going with hardware lighting in the client |
| 17:30 |
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| 17:31 |
Inocudom |
Then those efforts would have to be remade for Minetest main. I'm surprised proller and MirceaKitsune have not tried such things. |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
<random> new win32/win64 build: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1523&p=140109#p140109 </random> |
| 17:31 |
* VanessaE |
pokes Taoki |
| 17:32 |
Inocudom |
I do know that you do 64-bit builds now, sfan5. I still use Fess's though. |
| 17:32 |
sfan5 |
I did it recently |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
Couldn't let BlockMen be the only person to do win32 + win64 |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
:P |
| 17:33 |
Krock |
xD |
| 17:34 |
Inocudom |
With luck, CraigyDavi could soon learn how to do the same for Freeminer. He makes builds for it. Freeminer is the bug tester for new Minetest features, so why not? |
| 17:35 |
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| 17:39 |
markveidemanis |
How do i increase the timeout? |
| 17:43 |
* PenguinDad |
is a bit afraid of the thunderstorm |
| 17:45 |
Krock |
markveidemanis, try the server unload unused data thingie |
| 17:46 |
markveidemanis |
Won't work |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: freeminer is not a textbed for minetest features |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
it's its own engine these days |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
testbed* |
| 17:48 |
* PenguinDad |
gives kaeza and Jordach a fishy cake |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
it's mostly compatible but it has many things that minetest engine does not, and vice versa. |
| 17:51 |
markveidemanis |
Wheres the file that handles the error "ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(6/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 2 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)" |
| 17:51 |
Krock |
debug.txt |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
More Blocks update is out: more intuitive crafting :) |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
(finally) |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
happy birthday kaeza |
| 17:52 |
* Calinou |
hands kaeza a stack of Trap Super Glow Glass (which looks different from Super Glow Glass now) |
| 17:52 |
Inocudom |
What is it that you mean by that, Calinou? |
| 17:52 |
* Krock |
uninstalls MSE |
| 17:53 |
markveidemanis |
sfan5|Calinou|(DEV)Wheres the file that handles the error "ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(6/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 2 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)" |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: it always looked different in HDX :P |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
(trapstone/glass has a metal edge with screws) |
| 17:54 |
Inocudom |
Of course, it is a very good thing that you are still maintaining moreblocks, because it is an extremely useful mod. |
| 17:57 |
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| 17:58 |
Calinou |
new Trap Stone texture added |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
(finally up-to-date) |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
Inocudom, trap glow glass/super glow glass uses a different texture now, which means it can be spotted |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
before, it used the same texture |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
it was too easy to trap people ;) |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
oh, and recipes using Mese crystals use Mese crystal fragments now |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
oh, and legacy code (6d facedir conversion and aliases) is no longer used by default, for faster loading. |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
you can enable it back if you need it |
| 18:00 |
* Calinou |
just found a nyan cat in the sky |
| 18:02 |
sfan5 |
markveidemanis: connection.cpp |
| 18:02 |
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| 18:03 |
markveidemanis |
Thanks |
| 18:03 |
markveidemanis |
Any specific line? |
| 18:03 |
sfan5 |
look for "has timed out" |
| 18:04 |
markveidemanis |
define PING_TIMEOUT 5.0 |
| 18:04 |
markveidemanis |
No, connection timeout, media loading |
| 18:04 |
sfan5 |
media timeout has nothing to do with that error msg |
| 18:04 |
markveidemanis |
Will define PING_TIMEOUT 5.0 work? |
| 18:05 |
sfan5 |
maybe |
| 18:05 |
sfan5 |
5.0 seems way too high |
| 18:05 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 18:05 |
sfan5 |
oh wait |
| 18:08 |
CraigyDavi |
Hi everyone |
| 18:08 |
markveidemanis |
Hi |
| 18:14 |
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| 18:15 |
* Krock |
has returned |
| 18:16 |
CraigyDavi |
hi Krock |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
hi CraigyDavi |
| 18:17 |
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| 18:17 |
Krock |
hi Calinou |
| 18:17 |
Mikerhinos |
o/ |
| 18:17 |
CraigyDavi |
\o |
| 18:17 |
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| 18:18 |
Calinou |
/)(^ε^)(\ |
| 18:18 |
Mikerhinos |
lol |
| 18:18 |
PenguinDad |
Krock used Resurrection! |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
M£$€ |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
^ an economist's view on Mese |
| 18:18 |
PenguinDad |
:D |
| 18:18 |
Mikerhinos |
Tonight is merguez partie |
| 18:19 |
Krock |
Calinou, omg... yes! |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
lolØŸ |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
M∑∫℮ |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
maths version |
| 18:21 |
markveidemanis |
Did you know you can use 'l' in the same way as 'ls' ? |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
nope. |
| 18:22 |
PenguinDad |
"bash: l: Kommando nicht gefunden." :( |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
Leoleo -> lol? |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
*lsols |
| 18:23 |
sfan5 |
markveidemanis: it's an ubuntu specific alias |
| 18:23 |
sfan5 |
l -> ls -CF |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
Perfect, I'lsls replsace alsls 'l' with 'ls' |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
</stupid windows user> |
| 18:24 |
* markveidemanis |
wonders if he can use 3g to host a server |
| 18:24 |
sfan5 |
what did you just say? |
| 18:24 |
sfan5 |
markveidemanis: yes you can, it will however not be fast |
| 18:25 |
markveidemanis |
2.1ms to ping google |
| 18:25 |
PenguinDad |
markveidemanis: if you have a 3g like mine no |
| 18:26 |
PenguinDad |
+connection |
| 18:28 |
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| 18:29 |
PenguinDad |
specing is a bit late for april ;) |
| 18:29 |
markveidemanis |
!up 192.168.42.130 30010 |
| 18:29 |
MinetestBot |
192.168.42.130:30010 seems to be down |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
>192.168 |
| 18:29 |
markveidemanis |
!up sslv.tk 30010 |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
are you joking? |
| 18:29 |
MinetestBot |
sslv.tk:30010 seems to be down |
| 18:30 |
markveidemanis |
whatismyip does not change if i connect my phone |
| 18:30 |
markveidemanis |
oh shit forgot to enable 3g |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
you need to enable usb tethering and disable other network connections on your pc |
| 18:31 |
Krock |
~up 192.168.1.1 |
| 18:31 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: 192.168.1.1 port 30000 is down |
| 18:31 |
Krock |
too bad >:D |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
~up 127.0.0.1 30000 |
| 18:31 |
ShadowBot |
sfan5: 127.0.0.1 port 30000 is down |
| 18:31 |
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| 18:32 |
PenguinDad |
~up 0.0.0.0 |
| 18:32 |
Krock |
~up [:::1] |
| 18:32 |
ShadowBot |
PenguinDad: 0.0.0.0 port 30000 is down |
| 18:32 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: [:::1] Error. Invalid address? |
| 18:32 |
markveidemanis |
The phone just used it's connection to WiFi |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
are you on a phone? |
| 18:33 |
markveidemanis |
nope |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
do you intend to host the server on your phone? |
| 18:33 |
Krock |
~up 256.256.256.256 |
| 18:33 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: 256.256.256.256 Error. Invalid address? |
| 18:33 |
markveidemanis |
Not really |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
markveidemanis, do it. phones are the future servers |
| 18:34 |
PenguinDad |
markveidemanis: buy an ARM server |
| 18:40 |
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| 18:42 |
* Jordach |
is having a pint this weekend |
| 18:43 |
markveidemanis |
aww |
| 18:43 |
* markveidemanis |
pets Jordach |
| 18:46 |
* Calinou |
throws a rat in Jordach's pint |
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| 18:47 |
markveidemanis |
:P |
| 18:49 |
* markveidemanis |
sets up a DNS server |
| 18:50 |
* PenguinDad |
sets up DuckDNS |
| 18:51 |
* Krock |
likes dnsynamic.org and its simpleness |
| 18:51 |
* Krock |
*dnsdynamic |
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| 18:55 |
Taoki |
I wonder... is it possible to only allow certain players to obtain certain items? And forbid some from containing certain items in their inventory in any form |
| 18:56 |
Calinou |
scan their inventory, ban them if they have item *runs* |
| 18:56 |
Calinou |
or disallow any action out of them, to make them useless |
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| 18:59 |
CraigyDavi |
I get this when loading my server :( |
| 18:59 |
CraigyDavi |
ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found |
| 19:00 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, double post FTW! |
| 19:00 |
Taoki |
Higher chances of getting an answer sometimes :P |
| 19:01 |
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| 19:01 |
PenguinDad |
CraigyDavi: delete your env_meta.txt |
| 19:02 |
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| 19:07 |
CraigyDavi |
Phew, thanks PenguinDad. |
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| 19:13 |
Taoki |
Also: Is it really not possible to store custom Lua properties of players between server restarts? Like for example to persist appearance... model and texture |
| 19:14 |
Taoki |
Lua entities can be persisted with custom values. And players also have properties they are persisted with, like last position and HP and everything... so I assume you could add your own stuff there too? |
| 19:15 |
Taoki |
Calinou: And it's not to enforce a rule... just to have specific players be able to use specific items or even carry them :) Classes and the like |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
Taoki, did you see my PM? |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
(sorry if it sounded harsh, that was not my intention) |
| 19:18 |
Taoki |
Yeah. And it's ok. Really don't care about image hosting service though, I just use whatever works best :p |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
Taoki, https://mediacru.sh |
| 19:21 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Any examples of how to persist Lua fields for players? I haven't quite understood if this is possible yet or not, but it makes little sense for it not to be |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
“Really don't care about image hosting service though†→ other people may do |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
tinypic shows questionable images in the footer |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
yeah |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
at least it isn't piratepaste |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, see stats mod in Nodetopia |
| 19:24 |
Taoki |
People seeing that might have an error. It's one of the biggest image hosting sites |
| 19:24 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Thanks |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
no, I don't |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
even imgur's “related images†is not as bad |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
i.e. it shows only SFW stuff |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
Calinou, only because it shows clop |
| 19:26 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Ah, you must write them to a text file? Was hoping player properties could be stored in the database directly like for entities. Of course, if it works and isn't slow, I cannot complain |
| 19:26 |
Taoki |
Clop! Haha... I wasn't expecting someone to use that term here :P |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
/giveme moreblocks:clop |
| 19:29 |
VanessaE |
Dreambuilder game updated :) |
| 19:30 |
Mikerhinos |
VanessaE: great, i'm trying actual version now with my sons lol ;) |
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| 19:31 |
Calinou |
no GitHub repository? |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
hi Mikerhinos |
| 19:32 |
Mikerhinos |
o/ Calinou |
| 19:33 |
PenguinDad |
dreambuilder might be too big for github |
| 19:36 |
Inocudom |
Bye. |
| 19:36 |
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| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: nope. |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
PenguinDad: hah, nope |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
not even close |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
GitHub has no strict size limit, but they say 1 GB |
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| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
Github has a soft limit of 1 GB |
| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
I just haven't created a proper repo yet |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
ninja'd! I mean, fast mode'd! |
| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 19:39 |
markveidemanis |
Anyone know a simple DNS server program? |
| 19:39 |
markveidemanis |
for linux. PTR is all I need |
| 19:46 |
Mikerhinos |
VanessaE: still have many item textures not appearing in inventory :( unified inventory mod link is bugged in google so I don't know how to give home privilege, do you remember the command line ? |
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| 19:47 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_game |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
OK :) |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
all of the commits in the future will just read "various updates" though :) |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
(the updates are automated, easier that way) |
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Jordach |
lazy ass bitch :D |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
i see my style of doing fuck all appears to be spreading |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PC001m6K6hZB.png ↠how More Blocks code looks here |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
just for fun :) |
| 20:12 |
Taoki |
Is it possible to have Lua control some player privileges entirely? Such as fast, fly and interact. Does any mod do that, and can it conflict with admins setting them manually? |
| 20:12 |
EvergreenTree |
What IDE was Calinou using? |
| 20:12 |
diemartin |
Geany |
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diemartin |
<3 |
| 20:12 |
Taoki |
Same one I use since moving to Linux :) |
| 20:12 |
PenguinDad |
Calinou uses Geany |
| 20:13 |
EvergreenTree |
Geany is awesome |
| 20:13 |
EvergreenTree |
:3 |
| 20:13 |
EvergreenTree |
I might turn it into a terminal style like that |
| 20:13 |
VanessaE |
ok the commits are not automated now, but the messages will probably still be generic :P |
| 20:13 |
Jordach |
Gedit |
| 20:13 |
Jordach |
GEDIT |
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Jordach |
or Notepad++ |
| 20:13 |
VanessaE |
http://xkcd.com/1296/ |
| 20:13 |
diemartin |
Gedit sucks |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
(I just had to rewrite one of my scripts, just being lazy) |
| 20:14 |
diemartin |
lol |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
expect commit messages like the above :P |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
Gedit Is Your Friendâ„¢ |
| 20:16 |
PenguinDad |
http://ghostdoge.duckdns.org:8080/ could someone please try to load that page? |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
nuthin |
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diemartin |
PenguinDad, nope |
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PenguinDad |
TIL my internet connection is fucked :( |
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diemartin |
did you try turning it off and on again? |
| 20:19 |
PilzAdam |
PenguinDad, who wants children with an internet connection? |
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* sfan5 |
meows at EvergreenTree |
| 20:19 |
EvergreenTree |
mrowr |
| 20:21 |
PenguinDad |
can't wait until I get DSL here |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
you don't have DSL? |
| 20:22 |
sfan5 |
WTF do you live? (first 'W' = where) |
| 20:23 |
PenguinDad |
my city has DSL but not my house |
| 20:24 |
crazyR |
whats the benefit of using luaJit on my server? |
| 20:25 |
VanessaE |
PenguinDad: "connecting..." is as far as I get with it, and I can't ping it. But it does resolve (to 82.113.98.178) |
| 20:25 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: mods run faster and/or use less CPU power to get their tasks done. |
| 20:25 |
PenguinDad |
at least the DNS record is right |
| 20:25 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: in some cases, maybe just a 50% boost, in other cases 3-4x or better. |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: in some very special cases, I think I've seen claims of, what was it, 10x? as fast as C++ anyway |
| 20:26 |
crazyR |
ahh right thanks for the tip. i have it installed but was wondering if it made any difrence lol |
| 20:31 |
Taoki |
Is it possible to make nodes act as a liquid in regard to collisions and drowning (have viscosity), but not flow? Thinking of making snow blocks in my game not collide but slow down the player, as well as drown him if he's in more than two |
| 20:31 |
Taoki |
As well as allow swimming in snow blocks... but again have them not flow |
| 20:32 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: make them climbable and drownable |
| 20:32 |
VanessaE |
that would be a bit more realistic than making snow act like quicksand ;) |
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Taoki |
Thanks... not a bad idea |
| 20:32 |
Taoki |
Can I still make them act like quicksand tho? |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
not sure how |
| 20:33 |
Taoki |
I think Carbone does that with leafs... |
| 20:34 |
Taoki |
not sure precisely though |
| 20:36 |
crazyR |
node=minetest.env:get_node(pos) <-- am i able to grab the node group from there? |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: get the node first, then use its name to get the node def from the main table |
| 20:37 |
diemartin |
crazyR, minetest.registered_nodes[minetest.get_node(pos).name].groups |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
minetest.registered_nodes[name] |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
ninja'd |
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diemartin |
bah |
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diemartin |
:P |
| 20:38 |
crazyR |
thanks :) |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
well, half-ninja'd ;) |
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PenguinDad |
ninja daemon :D |
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Taoki |
Is there a way in after_dig_node to prevent / revert a node being dug and the player getting its item? |
| 20:47 |
Taoki |
I remember that if the function is set to return false, the node is no longer dug |
| 20:49 |
Megaf |
Taoki: sure |
| 20:49 |
Megaf |
17:31:37 Taoki | Is it possible to make nodes act as a liquid in regard to collisions and drowning (have viscosity), but not flow? |
| 20:49 |
Taoki |
nice |
| 20:49 |
Megaf |
sure about that |
| 20:49 |
Megaf |
I made water a non flow thing, and diggable |
| 20:49 |
Taoki |
cool |
| 20:50 |
Megaf |
on my pixelart server |
| 20:50 |
Taoki |
And viscosity still applies, and you can sim and drown in it? |
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crazyR |
could someone check this for me, not able to test it yet, doing work on my server. https://github.com/ethic-rush/technic/blob/master/technic/tools/mining_lasers.lua#L101 |
| 20:54 |
Taoki |
What about reverting digging in on_dig? I need a way to make players who have interact be unable to dig nodes... and without using set_protected on these nodes either |
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Taoki |
VanessaE: Since I remember you had this on your server... any idea where to find that mod which makes everything being mined drop to the ground rather than going straigth to player inventory? And makes walking over dropped item have you pick them up with a "pop" sound like in MC |
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lordcirth |
Taoki, look through technic, it's in there |
| 21:02 |
lordcirth |
Taoki, actually found it, folder is called "item_drop" |
| 21:02 |
Taoki |
oh, technic has it yes. Thanks |
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VanessaE |
Taoki: https://github.com/cyisfor/item_drop |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
that's the one I use |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
(and as far as I know, it's not supposed to be in technic.) |
| 21:04 |
VanessaE |
(but we've been discussing adding it back in) |
| 21:06 |
crazyR |
VanessaE: i know im a pain, could you look at this and let me know if i have got it right please : could someone check this for me, not able to test it yet, doing work on my server. https://github.com/ethic-rush/technic/blob/master/technic/tools/mining_lasers.lua#L101 |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: check if the name is nil first |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
(in case the fired-up node is unknown/undefined e.g. from a mod that has been uninstalled) |
| 21:09 |
crazyR |
ahh, thanks |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
fired-upon* |
| 21:11 |
crazyR |
also me and puhfa did some work on the quarry too, thought you might like to look. we havent submited a pul request though as we're still testing it https://github.com/ethic-rush/technic/edit/master/technic/machines/HV/quarry.lua |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
if node and minetest.registered_nodes[node.name]........ then return end |
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crazyR |
oh i say me and puhfa i mean puhfa did mostof the work, i edited the formspec and a few other small things lol |
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VanessaE |
that quarry link gives me a "you can't edit this" error |
| 21:12 |
crazyR |
oh sorry 1 min, lol |
| 21:13 |
crazyR |
https://github.com/ethic-rush/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/HV/quarry.lua |
| 21:13 |
VanessaE |
but, make your pull request(s) and I'll look then |
| 21:14 |
crazyR |
ok, il leave it a week first. see how it works out. |
| 21:20 |
EvergreenTree |
Once I learn C/C++ I think I'll dive in and make a patch for minetest |
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VanessaE |
dare I ask what you plan to change? :) |
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| 21:29 |
PilzAdam |
EvergreenTree, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C_Programming |
| 21:30 |
PilzAdam |
especially suitable for trees |
| 21:30 |
EvergreenTree |
VanessaE: I havee a lot of things that I would like to do |
| 21:30 |
EvergreenTree |
PilzAdam: Yay trees |
| 21:31 |
PenguinDad |
no tree was killed for that book :) |
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PilzAdam |
PenguinDad, even better: the PCs that were used to write it were powered by burning bark beetles |
| 21:32 |
PilzAdam |
so trees were actually saved for that book |
| 21:33 |
EvergreenTree |
:3 |
| 21:34 |
EvergreenTree |
Once I learn C, I probably should add all the stuff c++ adds to my knowledge banks |
| 21:35 |
EvergreenTree |
considering minetest is written in it |
| 21:35 |
FreeFull |
I like Rust |
| 21:35 |
PilzAdam |
just add C and the absolutely worst implementation of OO that you can imagine and you got C++ |
| 21:35 |
EvergreenTree |
That's what I've gotten from it |
| 21:36 |
PilzAdam |
and some neat stuff like operator overloading |
| 21:36 |
EvergreenTree |
Well, I'll just have to live with |
| 21:36 |
EvergreenTree |
it |
| 21:38 |
PilzAdam |
learn Java if you want proper OO |
| 21:39 |
PilzAdam |
and it's really not hard to write your own voxel based 3d engine in Java with LWJGL |
| 21:39 |
PenguinDad |
"learn language x if you want properly implemented y" |
| 21:42 |
PenguinDad |
has somebody tried rewriting minetest's netcode with enet? |
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Exio4 |
proper OO in java! |
| 21:45 |
Exio4 |
what the fuck did you drink |
| 21:45 |
Exio4 |
or smoke |
| 21:46 |
EvergreenTree |
so you're telling me to go mod minecraft? |
| 21:46 |
EvergreenTree |
okay |
| 21:46 |
EvergreenTree |
:P |
| 21:46 |
EvergreenTree |
let the laguage wars begin! |
| 21:46 |
Exio4 |
Java isn't proper OOP |
| 21:46 |
EvergreenTree |
I already have learned python. |
| 21:46 |
Exio4 |
scala has better OO so far |
| 21:46 |
Exio4 |
and both still suck |
| 21:46 |
PenguinDad |
Haskell ftw |
| 21:47 |
EvergreenTree |
Would you say Python has proper OO or not? |
| 21:47 |
* PenguinDad |
runs away |
| 21:47 |
EvergreenTree |
I have nothing to compare it to |
| 22:00 |
Exio4 |
does it haz private data? |
| 22:00 |
Exio4 |
nah, it doesn't! |
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EvergreenTree |
woof |
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* PenguinDad |
pets EvergreenTree |
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frenchy_girl |
hi |
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| 22:36 |
darkangel |
hey im just curious since some peeps here have experience on it if your port forwarding through a modem do you need an Ethernet wire to make it work or can ya use Wifi to? |
| 22:36 |
darkangel |
hey im just curious since some peeps here have experience on it if your port forwarding through a modem do you need an Ethernet wire to make it work or can ya use Wifi to? |
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darkangel |
sorry for double sent |
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| 22:38 |
EvergreenTree |
just curious, is it possible to set a specific mapgen for a given game! |
| 22:39 |
PenguinDad |
Rust is really nice |
| 22:39 |
Taoki |
Was wondering that too. My game will depend on v7 exclusively, so I'd like to disable the others |
| 22:40 |
Taoki |
EvergreenTree: Best way I think is a lua function to detect the mapgen, and perhaps quit with an error if the chosen one isn't selected |
| 22:42 |
FreeFull |
darkangel: You shouldn't need ethernet to do that |
| 22:42 |
FreeFull |
Unless you have a weird router |
| 22:42 |
darkangel |
ok |
| 22:42 |
EvergreenTree |
PilzAdam: I think I remember nodetopia had such a feature |
| 22:42 |
EvergreenTree |
does it? |
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EvergreenTree |
Taoki: here: https://github.com/PilzAdam/nodetopia/blob/f168238a62f152352ae205bba87950dd82769087/mods/base/mapgen.lua |
| 23:20 |
EvergreenTree |
begining of file |
| 23:21 |
Exio4 |
isn't it just adding mg_name=v7 or something like that in game.conf |
| 23:22 |
Taoki |
EvergreenTree: Nice. Thanks for the info... very good to know |
| 23:23 |
EvergreenTree |
Exio4: I wanted that for a game |
| 23:23 |
EvergreenTree |
in my case singlenode |
| 23:23 |
EvergreenTree |
My idea will only work in singlenode |
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PilzAdam |
Taoki, it's quite funny how the answer to all of your problems is "look at Nodetopia" :-) |
| 23:26 |
EvergreenTree |
lol |
| 23:26 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Yeah yeah, your game is awesome ;) |
| 23:27 |
Taoki |
I tried Nodepedia a bit though. What I can say at a first glance overall is that it has a lot of nice features and possibilities. Though as a game it doesn't intrigue me... seems even simpler than minetest_game currently. |
| 23:29 |
EvergreenTree |
^ which is kind of the point |
| 23:29 |
Taoki |
Makes sense then. Not a bad thing of course |
| 23:30 |
Taoki |
Can you craft anything though? The default inventory window has no crafting grid at all |
| 23:30 |
EvergreenTree |
yep |
| 23:30 |
EvergreenTree |
using the backpack |
| 23:31 |
PilzAdam |
... how can you say you looked at it if you haven't even crafted anything? |
| 23:32 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: I tried it for 10 minutes or so, exploring and looking at the menus. But I noticed there's no crafting grid in inventory |
| 23:32 |
Taoki |
I did *look* at it in the true sense of the word :P But one can look at something for a minute or for hours |
| 23:32 |
arsdragonfly |
Are there any documentations about technic? technic.kosyak.info looks like a stub |
| 23:32 |
Taoki |
I would like to try it more too, as well as Carbone... just didn't get the chance to yet. Making my own plans for MT |
| 23:34 |
Taoki |
BTW, I did want to know another thing... |
| 23:34 |
Taoki |
Is it possible for a mod to disable a default script in minetest_game? I'm going to make something that will handle player appearance differently, and will want the normal player.lua completely disabled (or well, its effect to run over it at least) |
| 23:36 |
Exio4 |
well, nice |
| 23:36 |
Exio4 |
i can't have real graphics |
| 23:36 |
Exio4 |
this fucking laptop needs a closed source driver |
| 23:36 |
Exio4 |
where the only available is shit |
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| 23:38 |
Taoki |
Exio4: If you're on Linux, the open source driver should be good enough. Depends a lot on the card though |
| 23:38 |
Taoki |
In my case I run great games on Mesa / Gallium... little problems |
| 23:39 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, overriding all functions could work |
| 23:39 |
Taoki |
Nice |
| 23:40 |
Taoki |
If anyone's interested in what I'm planning to do also, it's something for my game. I'm going to fork SimpleMobs and add a player system to it, which will allow players to "incarnate" as mobs. Otherwise the player will be a ghost, who can't dig or do much until they assume a mob's body |
| 23:41 |
Taoki |
Kinda intended as a surprise, but I decided to post that as a mod first before the actual game |
| 23:41 |
crazyR |
hey guys, quick question. 32bit os or 64bit os. whats best for minetest. is there any performance diffrnece? |
| 23:41 |
Taoki |
Each player type that can be assumed from a mob will have different inventories, movement speeds, etc |
| 23:42 |
Taoki |
And yes, I am intending to allow it for ALL mobs, including sheep and mice :P Mice players will prolly have only 1 to 5 inventory slots or something. Will see how it goes |
| 23:42 |
crazyR |
? |
| 23:43 |
Taoki |
I'll also turn the existing player (humans) into a mob, and becoming one will offer pretty much the same behavior as now. Dying while a mob will simply make the player a ghost again |
| 23:45 |
PilzAdam |
crazyR, you really shouldn't choose your OS based on Minetest |
| 23:45 |
crazyR |
its a dedicated server. just for minetest |
| 23:45 |
PilzAdam |
and use 64 bit if you have the hardware for it |
| 23:45 |
crazyR |
done :) |
| 23:45 |
crazyR |
thanks |
| 23:46 |
Taoki |
But yeah. i think this will be an interesting use of PA's simple mobs :) My game will rely on it, but minetest_game can use it too |
| 23:46 |
lordcirth |
Taoki, so can you play as a bear? |
| 23:47 |
Taoki |
lordcirth: There aren't any bears for simplemobs ATM. But the framework I'll be modifying defines a set of player settings together with each mob, so you can automatically play as any mob... and will actually be constrained to |
| 23:49 |
Taoki |
The idea is to make players indistinguishable from mobs. There will just be various species around the world... mobs are the CPU and the player can take the body of willing mobs (random property). |
| 23:49 |
lordcirth |
Taoki, that's a very cool idea. |
| 23:49 |
Taoki |
Mob hostility will also be race dependent. If you become a sand monster, sand monsters will of course be your friends, but stone ones might still attack you if their races are at war |
| 23:49 |
Taoki |
Glad you like it... I think so too yes :) |
| 23:53 |
FreeFull |
How will you handle height differences? |
| 23:53 |
Taoki |
FreeFull: BlockMen's camera changes allow eye offset at last. My physics changes a while ago also allow giving each player different movement speeds. And IIRC, you can change the bounding box of players... if not it will use the existing size until that's possible, although that will suck. |
