Time Nick Message 01:01 Megaf_ Folks, I need a good software to record my desktop 01:01 Megaf_ for Linux 01:15 EvergreenTree Megaf: simplescreenrecorder 01:15 EvergreenTree the best there is 01:20 Megaf celeron55: Hi, what did you use to record the mapgen video? 01:38 stormchaser3000 hi 01:52 VanessaE_ Official Release -- Dreambuilder Game: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196 06:25 CraigyDavi :/ http://i.imgur.com/kj4WW91.png 06:41 celeron55 MegAFK: ffmpeg -video_size 1920x1080 -framerate 6 -f x11grab -i :0.0+0,0 -f alsa -ac 2 -i pulse -vcodec libx264 out_$(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S).avi 08:01 pandaro hi all 08:01 pandaro it seems to me that someone on the forum hype with spam 09:17 * Mati^1 Wear is RealBadAngel 09:52 Mikerhinos numpad keys will be fixed one day on Linux ? 09:55 Mikerhinos Because my son can't type my server address : "7" won't work on numpad or normal key :s and ctrl+v won't paste anything 10:13 Mikerhinos workaround is a bit annoying :s 10:27 specing Mikerhinos: Im surprised anyone still uses numpads... 10:30 Mikerhinos on french layout it's easier, we don't have to press shift+è we just use numpad 10:32 specing ah the backward french.... 11:13 Exio4 the whole azerty keyboard doesn't work as expected afaik 11:25 crazyR is there a reason why my server isnt generating and lava lakes, i used standard mpgen v6 settings 11:29 pitriss Mikerhinos: there was some patch for irrlicht 11:30 Mikerhinos pitriss: using the US keyboard workaround for now 11:31 pitriss Mikerhinos: which fixes numpad (but that broken "7" and in czech layout also "4" are still broken) 11:32 Mikerhinos in french layout almost all numpad keys are broken, and I think standard num keys "7" and "9" are broken :s 11:44 Hirato unless it's changed, I think the numpad's pretty broken on qwerty too 11:45 Hirato hmm... guess not, it's doing some quick-tune thing now.. 11:46 Hirato oh nah, it's pretty broken, ususally doing home/end/whatever rather than the numbers 11:46 Hirato 3 and 9 work normally though it seems 11:46 Hirato so r00fles 11:49 pitriss grr i can't find which line should be changed in irrlicht.. 12:09 pitriss Mikerhinos: if you are using linux and irrlicht 1.8.1 then change file irrlicht-1.8.1/source/Irrlicht/CIrrDeviceLinux.cpp line 1052 from: event.xkey.state = 0; to event.xkey.state &= ~(ControlMask|ShiftMask); 12:10 pitriss ther recompile irrlicht, minetest and you should have functional numpad 12:13 Exio4 ha 12:34 Megaf Hi everyone 12:35 Megaf celeron55: Yep, I'm doing quite the same, but with framerate 14, and still slow, does the framerate option actually work? 12:38 Exio4 use 30 12:38 Exio4 40,, 44, or whatever 12:38 Exio4 60 fps would be nice tho 12:38 Exio4 your screen hz :P 12:40 Megaf Exio4: Hi, You know I'm talking about screen capture using ffmpeg? 12:41 celeron55 Exio4: you probably don't have enough CPU performance for encoding at the same time as capturing 12:42 Exio4 depends of the encoder 12:42 celeron55 if you can't find a fast enough encoder, throw a "-vf scale=1280:720" before the -vcodec part, or even smaller if that doesn't help 12:43 Exio4 a nice thing to do would be using a lightweight codec (nearly raw) and save the file in /tmp or somewhere where you have space, and then re-encode it with time to what you want 12:43 celeron55 even this machine can't encode fast-paced games at 30fps at full-HD in h.264 12:43 Exio4 "this machine" == ? 12:44 celeron55 umm... well assuming the CPU matters most, that is an i7-4800MQ 12:44 Megaf celeron55: also, I couldnt capture minetest in fullscreen, only in window mode, when going fullscreen it would still somewhat show the desktop 12:45 celeron55 in my window manager i can just press alt+f11 and the program fills the whole screen 12:45 Megaf Ah, that's how you do 12:46 celeron55 also, yes, nearly raw video at 1080p is probably doable on most new computers... it just takes enormous amounts of space and you can't really archive the footage you take with it at all 12:47 celeron55 unless you encode it afterwards which you can't bother doing after you've spent your time waiting for the actual video to render for too long already 8) 12:47 Megaf I'm using mkv 12:47 Megaf -sameq mkv 12:47 celeron55 mkv is a container that can store video in almost any codec 12:47 celeron55 that doesn't tell anything about what you encode it in 12:48 celeron55 it's like "i code in text files" 12:48 Exio4 i'm encoding at 31FPS but with -framerate @ 60 12:48 Megaf I wonder what encoding is ffmpeg using then 12:48 Exio4 looks like a hardcoded limit ... 12:50 celeron55 Megaf: ffmpeg -i probably tells it 12:53 reactor Evening! 12:56 Megaf ENCODER : Lavf53.21.1 12:56 Megaf Morning reactor 12:57 reactor Lucky you eh. Because evenings suck. 12:57 Megaf is there any kind of gitgub website hosting besides that wiki thing? 13:02 Megaf 10:02:11: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: No player for peer_id=1221 13:02 Megaf This is really bad 13:02 Megaf millions of lines like that scrolling on my server log 13:03 Megaf 7+ lines/second 13:03 reactor Heh. 13:03 reactor Same, here 13:03 reactor but a bit different the message is 13:03 reactor I like to peek at it once in a while, and that annoys. 13:04 reactor Debian users trying to lpay with a very old Minetest from packages? 13:04 Megaf I have no idea 13:05 Megaf I only know that really slo the server dpwm 13:05 reactor One might go anal and uptight and set "strict protocol version checking". 13:05 Megaf doesn* 13:05 reactor Really? 13:05 reactor Yeah, it shouldn't. 13:05 Megaf Im going to shut down my server 13:05 reactor Why so? 13:05 Megaf because I administrate my server over ssh 13:06 reactor Who doesn't. 13:06 Megaf and that 7+ lines/seconds really saturate my upstream 13:06 Megaf 45 players at once on 3 servers is ok for my upstream, but that logs can do a lot of damage to it 13:07 reactor What are you talking about? 13:07 reactor Can't you just stop sending the log wherever it's sent to? 13:07 reactor Or filter those messages out? 13:07 Megaf I'm just saying, my upstream can't handle that kind of load 13:08 crazyR does anyone know why my server isnt generating and lava lakes, i used standard mpgen v6 settings 13:10 crazyR 10:02:11: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: No player for peer_id=1221 13:10 crazyR ^ i had that when using older clients 13:11 reactor Indeed. 13:11 reactor I was right. 13:11 Megaf crazyR: any solution for that? 13:12 crazyR tell all your players to upgrade. i think it was just a dodgy build. as it wasnt that old. also it was me at caused mine, i notieced when i did anything on the server the live logs showed it lol 13:17 Megaf I just think server should tell clients "Your versions is too old, please upgrade" 13:17 Megaf or it just should be able to let them play without major issues 13:18 proller or tell sapier to revert his changes 13:18 Megaf !ban proller 13:19 Megaf proller: my servers has more players than yours 13:19 Megaf and plays better too 13:19 proller and more lag? 13:19 proller without mods? 13:19 Megaf with only the mods I want 13:20 Megaf I hate Guests 13:20 proller my have 2 shitmobs mods and they generate most lag 13:20 proller also beat 68 players record 13:21 Megaf players or bots? 13:22 proller players 13:22 proller 150+ bots 13:22 proller and game playable with them 13:22 proller your have 3 second lag in moving item in inventory 13:23 proller and slow block load 13:23 Megaf mine? I have 3, 13:27 Megaf Ok, just enabled strict protocol on all servers, and disallowed empty passwords 13:27 Megaf that will cost 90% of players 13:27 Megaf quality over quantity 13:31 Megaf Hi xyz 13:31 Krock Hello 13:31 Megaf Hi Krock 13:31 Krock lol hi xyz 13:32 * Krock greets Megaf 13:35 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 13:35 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (776ms) 13:35 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30002 13:35 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30002 13:35 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30002 is up (567ms) 13:35 Krock id won 13:36 Krock is down* 13:36 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 13:36 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (473ms) 13:36 Megaf ok, 3 server 0 players 13:36 Krock Yeah 13:36 Megaf Krock: I enabled the strict protocol thing 13:36 Krock 1 server 8 players 13:37 Krock Megaf, bad idea 13:37 Megaf I'm expecting 90%+ player drops 13:37 Krock only 0.4.9-dev can join this way 13:37 Megaf Krock: Those trashy tablets/phones version are slowing down my servers quite a lot 13:37 Krock Uhm I don't notice such a slow down 13:37 Megaf developers must do something ASAP 13:38 Krock Megaf, if you mean max_lag: I joined your RIP *cough* RPi server -> lag of 5.5s 13:39 Krock But that one lies 13:39 Megaf you joined my main server 13:39 Krock Omg what have I done? 13:39 * Krock runs away 13:39 Megaf not a RPi one 13:39 Megaf you joined the minetest_game one 13:40 Megaf and yes, it lags 13:40 proller minetest players must suffer 13:40 Krock get technic_game and enjoy 13:40 Krock (on RPi!!) 13:40 Krock proller, yup. At least I can suffer. Minecraft doesn't let me. 13:41 Krock btw: installed airsword mod on my server :D 13:41 Krock Best mod evaarrr 13:42 Megaf Krock: really? 13:42 Krock yes 13:42 Megaf Is that just an invisible sword? 13:42 Krock Air is invisible <.< 13:42 Megaf so you don't see your hand 13:52 crazyR Megaf not just the sword is invisible, but the mod it too:d 13:53 Krock crazyR, wut? type in /mods 13:53 Krock after you enabledit 13:54 crazyR ahh but giveme the sword 13:54 crazyR lol 13:55 crazyR even the code is invisible so we cnt check the node name. 13:56 Krock node name? air SWORD? node name? srsz? 13:56 crazyR oh yeah im think me 13:56 crazyR *thick 14:07 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:08 Krock hi pilzadam 14:09 Megaf Hi PilzAdam 14:10 CraigyDavi hi PilzAdam 14:13 [PavelS] hi PilzAdam 14:14 proller hi PilzAdam 14:14 MinetestBot hi PilzAdam 14:17 Krock ][-][ 3 |_ |_ () P ! |_ Z /-\ |) /-\ /\/\ 14:38 Megaf Krock: I'm testing new configuration settings on my servers, lag should be much lower now 14:38 Krock parteyyy 15:09 Jordach I AM INSANE https://cdn.mediacru.sh/svcwtUvSFTMI.png 15:09 CraigyDavi Jordach, wow looks nice 15:09 Jordach i am able to export blender models INTO NODEBOXES :D 15:10 sfan5 Jordach: export the minetest player model into a nodebox :D 15:10 * Jordach requires two nodes 15:11 jin_xi you can make oversized nodeboxes 15:11 sfan5 ^ 15:11 Jordach sfan5, pixel scaling :P 15:15 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m3Q0D8Fstb1h.png 15:15 sfan5 Jordach: 15:15 sfan5 Jordach, wow looks nice 15:15 sfan5 uh no+ 15:15 sfan5 Jordach: https://survey.mediacru.sh/ 15:18 Jordach dne 15:31 zsoltisawesome_ To da Germans: http://www.cross-code.com/de/play 15:31 PilzAdam zsoltisawesome_, what is that? 15:32 zsoltisawesome_ HTML5 game 15:32 zsoltisawesome_ its pretty cool 15:32 sfan5 how old 15:32 sfan5 I already played that 15:32 zsoltisawesome_ lol 15:32 zsoltisawesome_ why the hell do i have an underscore 15:32 zsoltisawesome_ ahh 15:32 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome_: not today 15:32 zsoltisawesome_ PenguinDad: what? 15:32 PenguinDad underscore.js :P 15:33 zsoltisawesome_ PenguinDad: #whattheduck 15:33 PenguinDad I won't play that game today 15:33 zsoltisawesome_ ok 15:33 zsoltisawesome_ thats all! 15:33 zsoltisawesome_ bye! 15:34 Krock the sound in that gameis broken or my audio card is too slow.. 15:34 crazyR anyone know what the technic:template etc are for? 15:36 Krock and what's this crazy mod good for? https://github.com/SmallJoker/paint_roller 15:37 Calinou hi :) 15:37 Calinou pain troller, Krock 15:37 Krock exactly. hello Calinou 15:37 * PenguinDad is thinking about a painball mod/game 15:38 PenguinDad s/pain/paint/ 15:40 reactor msPain.exe 15:40 PenguinDad Pain.NET 15:41 crazyR anyone? 15:41 reactor http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/spike-wrecking-ball-17994008.jpg 15:41 reactor ^pain ball 15:42 reactor crazyR: sorry, haven't seen anyone using Technic; might want to ask again later 15:42 Calinou I'm idling in a cave in noclip 15:42 Calinou a stone monster jumps on a wall, trying to get me 15:42 Calinou it's called wallhumping! 15:43 crazyR im just deciding what to hide in the inventry . trying to clean it up. ive never been able to work out what it does, same with frame motors etc 15:47 Jordach hmmmm, is there an register_on_generated for MGV7? 15:48 Krock Jordach, there always is <.< 15:49 Jordach Krock, paramat supplied me oil generation - and notice it's missing the oil and aforementioned hole in the stone 15:50 Krock Jordach, oil needs to be ground_node = false or whatever 15:50 Krock else it overrides 15:50 Jordach Krock, already is 15:51 Krock Jordach, hmm weird, set that value to the opposite and geerate new land again 15:51 Krock hay john mt 15:52 Jordach and NOW it decides to work 15:53 PenguinDad john_minetest: o/ 15:53 Krock <3 <3 <3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuBEWhL-QTo <3 15:53 Jordach just tweaking it now :) 15:54 Calinou lol, stone monster spawns besides me and attacks me 15:54 Jordach and it's obvious when you do find it :) 15:55 Jordach tada https://cdn.mediacru.sh/e7p8-DBjtDht.png 15:55 Krock Jordach, make it glowy and turn noclip on, fly down = best way to find it 15:55 Jordach that big black orb 15:56 Krock can't see it's dark 15:57 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/UmQwmy1D-b9V.png 15:57 Jordach try again 15:57 SylvieLorxu Calinou: Stone monster? 15:58 Krock Ah now i see it 15:58 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/yFFieQNIC45H.png 15:58 Jordach that helps too :) 15:59 Jordach oil comes in large packets 16:02 Calinou SylvieLorxu, Simple Mobs 16:02 SylvieLorxu Ah... 16:02 SylvieLorxu Okay, thanks Calinou 16:02 Calinou added air springs :-D 16:03 Calinou after PilzAdam's Air Sword, here are air springs: caves generated using ore generation (replaces stone with air) 16:03 Calinou looks random, can be quite dangerous 16:03 Calinou but reveals ores 16:03 Jordach lol Calinou 16:04 Jordach actually making an air sword legit would be more interesting :) 16:06 Calinou enabling animation blending totally glitches out player model 16:06 Calinou (try 1 as animation_blend value) 16:10 PenguinDad my ping is 1.337 atm :D 16:11 ShadowBot pong 16:11 PenguinDad ~pong 16:14 * Jordach pokes VanessaE_ 16:14 Hirato !ping 16:15 Krock pong! 16:16 PenguinDad !rev !ping 16:16 MinetestBot gnip! 16:16 MinetestBot ver! 16:16 PenguinDad !rev server 16:16 MinetestBot revres 16:16 Hirato ~rev everything is smeg 16:16 ShadowBot Hirato: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 16:17 MinetestBot ver! schwinde 16:17 PenguinDad ~rev true 16:17 MinetestBot reittier 16:17 MinetestBot regallager 16:17 Hirato !rev ebiewhcs 16:17 MinetestBot schweibe 16:18 Krock ~rev reittier 16:18 Krock yeah 16:18 PenguinDad !rev retter 16:18 MinetestBot retter 16:18 Krock ~ping 16:18 Hirato !rev racecar 16:18 MinetestBot racecar 16:18 ShadowBot pong 16:18 Krock loll 16:19 Hirato wouldn't it be funny if we had a word for palindrome that was a palindrome 16:19 sfan5 can we do this in another channel please? 16:19 MinetestBot palindrrdnilap 16:19 VanessaE_ Jordach: ow. 16:19 Jordach VanessaE_, i'm pretty much working full time on BFD 16:20 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:20 MinetestBot might be better: palilap 16:20 sfan5 can we do this in another channel please? 16:20 VanessaE_ Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196 16:20 Jordach pssh 16:21 Krock minetest.fensta.bplaced.net 16:22 Krock sadly, there are too much similar skins 16:24 Krock o.o no one is wtfpl 16:25 PenguinDad Krock: I'm zlib/libpng :P 16:26 Krock PenguinDad, CC BY-SA 3.0 16:26 PenguinDad you said no-one and not nothing :p 16:27 Krock ok your verrie correckt 16:27 Krock me english verie good is 16:28 Hirato bliksemse buitlanders 16:28 Calinou hi VanessaE_ 16:28 PenguinDad very english, much good, wow 16:33 PenguinDad thx for the translation john_minetest :P 16:35 VanessaE_ john_minetest: just "john", right? 16:35 * PenguinDad hugs sfan5 16:36 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 16:36 * PenguinDad pets sfan5 16:36 VanessaE_ saved 16:36 * sfan5 purrs 16:36 * john_minetest takes out a Fischwerfer. It werfs Fisch! 16:37 * john_minetest werfs Fisch at sfan5 16:37 * sfan5 eats the fishy 16:37 Krock <°(((((-< 16:38 Krock and now: 16:38 VanessaE_ we used to have this bot on one of the C64 channels years ago that, if anyone said some variation of the word "fish", it would respond with another variation 16:38 Krock 16:43 Calinou you use IRC at school? 16:43 Krock no, I converted it into IRC node 16:43 Krock *mode 16:45 Krock Wo would like to start this dumb game? 16:46 markveidemanis https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=536347666497969&set=vb.382646855201385&type=2&theater 16:50 Krock not funny. 16:52 Krock can't sleep tonight. thanks. 17:03 Krock http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Sechselaeuten.jpg/465px-Sechselaeuten.jpg 17:03 Krock A good summer will come towards us 17:08 rubenwardy blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah 17:08 rubenwardy blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah 17:08 rubenwardy blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah 17:08 rubenwardy ooops 17:08 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t6kTBhsEYJY 17:08 rubenwardy ( sorry for the copy+paste error ) 17:08 PenguinDad lol when I look at that image I have to think of the Ghostbusters 17:14 VanessaE_ zzz 17:15 sfan5 VanessaE_: yyy 17:16 Krock john_minetest, not yet 17:18 VanessaE_ y not? :) 17:22 Megaf Hi all 17:23 Megaf 12:09:17 Jordach | I AM INSANE https://cdn.mediacru.sh/svcwtUvSFTMI.png 17:23 Megaf That's really impressive 17:25 Jordach Megaf, there hasn't been any large change in workflow 17:26 Jordach and i get like 10 years support (and that's if i don't upgrade) 17:26 Jordach compared to 2 years 17:26 Megaf Jordach: Why don't you use a good GNU/Linux distro? You use quite a lot of Open Source software already 17:26 Megaf install Debian Wheezy KDE and you will be fine 17:26 Jordach Megaf, i miss out on quite some decent game on Windows 17:26 Megaf I see, I know how you feel bro 17:27 Megaf I had to stop playing a lot of good games to migrate to GNU/Linux =/ 17:27 Megaf some of them works very nice on VirtualBox 17:27 Krock Windows ftw 17:27 Megaf Microsoft rullez 17:27 * PenguinDad throws Archlinux at Krock 17:27 Megaf I'm just kidding about Microsoft rullez 17:28 * Krock throws 1.44 ms-dos floppy disk at PenguinDad 17:28 Jordach Megaf, i'd go Linux (fuck politics, it's GNU and GNU know it) ;) 17:28 * Megaf catches ArchLinux and install it on a desktop 17:28 Jordach except my UEFI is a bitch to work with 17:28 Jordach i actually spent a day fighting it just to install Windows 7 17:28 VanessaE_ UEFI is supposed to be pretty tame even with Linux now so I've read? 17:29 Krock not daswort, it's diewort 17:29 Megaf Jordach: calling GNU/Linux Linux is the same as calling Windows kernel.exe or something like that 17:29 Jordach Megaf, i dislike the politics around it 17:30 Krock Megaf, linux is linux. windows is windows. let it stay that way 17:30 PenguinDad VanessaE_: but many UEFI implementations are made quick and dirty for Windows 8 17:30 VanessaE_ Megaf: "Linux" is shorter than "GNU/LInux", just as "Windows" is shorter than "Microsoft Windows". 17:30 Megaf yep, there should be a proper Linux Operating System 17:30 Krock M$ Windoof is way shorter and german-compatible 17:31 Megaf Krock: I aproove 17:31 Krock *approve= 17:32 Megaf however 17:32 Megaf :) 17:32 rubenwardy "Windoze"? 17:32 Megaf windowze for the win! 17:32 Megaf the best arcade game platform ever 17:33 Megaf since Nintendo SNES and SEGA Dreamcast 17:33 Megaf and old Ataris, they were awesome 17:34 * Jordach considers adding in a customized version of BlockMen's jukebox using a nodebox model 17:34 Megaf lua based mp3 player 17:35 Jordach ogg* 17:35 Megaf lua based ogg player 17:35 Jordach however, it's special, it contains some of my most legendary tracks (mtest.ogg, easternfeeling.ogg, R-S-E-Credits.ogg) 17:36 Krock Future of Windows: http://www.reactos.org/de 17:36 Krock str.remove("/de"); 17:36 Calinou UEFI is supposed to be pretty tame even with Linux now so I've read? 17:37 Calinou indeed – it also doesn't matter if you don't multi-boot 17:37 Calinou Megaf, except that Linux's only a kernel. 17:38 Calinou (nevermind) 17:38 Jordach Megaf, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wR6lrUNzAemb.png 17:40 Jordach Sokomine, i might be a minimalist when it comes to ingame stuff 17:40 Jordach i save the details for Blender :) 17:41 Jordach (fun fact: Blender Units CONVERT EQUALLY INTO NODEBOX UNITS) 17:42 Jordach i'm also considering writing a script to take two opposing sides of a box and convert them into lua tables for automated exportation 17:43 rubenwardy Sounds awesome 17:43 Jordach i prefer Blender to your shitt NBE, as pixel snapping IS NOT perfect 17:43 Megaf Blender is the software of it's kind 17:44 Jordach in fact i could probably write a minetest mod within blender as it has all the tools i need 17:44 Megaf and perhaps the only of it's kind 17:44 Jordach text editor, texture editor, file browser 17:44 rubenwardy That is harse and unneeded, Jordach] 17:44 Jordach it's the EMACS of 3D Modelers / Renders 17:44 Jordach does everything BUT do 3D modeling :) 17:45 Megaf And it's free 17:45 Megaf and open 17:45 Megaf free as in freedom 17:46 Megaf hm, 17:46 Megaf Krock: by the way, increasing those settings in minetest.conf fixed the map not loading issue on my server 17:46 rubenwardy I have just lost all respect I had for Jordach 17:46 Krock Megaf, well done. 17:46 Megaf rubenwardy: why? 17:47 Jordach rubenwardy, i'm REALLY specific about how software works 17:47 Megaf Krock: now it can handle a lot of players with no issues at all, however, I limited to 11 17:47 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 17:47 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (248ms) 17:48 Jordach rubenwardy, NBE irks me as not everything is optimal 17:48 Megaf 99 of lag according to servers.minetest.net 17:48 Jordach nobody around here seems to give a shit about a USABLE UI 17:48 * Megaf have no idea what they are talking about, that NBE thing 17:48 rubenwardy I find it usable. What do you require for it to be usable? 17:49 rubenwardy Megaf, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840 17:49 Krock Jordach, the NBE UI is fine o.o 17:49 Megaf ah, node block editor 17:49 rubenwardy I guess it is lacking in clone / duplicate and mirroring 17:49 rubenwardy The the top right VP is messed up (viewport) 17:50 Jordach rubenwardy, and proper pixel snapping that needs to actually work most of the time 17:50 Megaf Jordach: ok, so you can export things directly from blender to minetest? 17:51 Jordach Megaf, yarp 17:51 Megaf now, that's brilliant! 17:51 Megaf Jordach: how is that possible? 17:51 Jordach i currently export vert placement manually, and then i can easily create a bounding box 17:51 * markveidemanis is making a script to see how many words you can type on a calculator 17:51 Jordach btw, blender x = mt x, blender y = mt z, blender z = mt y 17:52 Krock blender FAIL 17:52 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9120451 17:52 Megaf rubenwardy: I'm using your NBE here for the first time now, I find it pretty good, pretty nice interface too 17:53 Jordach rubenwardy, where's the keyboard shortcuts too ;) 17:53 rubenwardy That is true 17:53 rubenwardy Can't believe I forgot that! 17:53 Jordach might explain why i perfer blender 17:53 Calinou new fireball sounds + explode sound in Carbone (dungeon master), tweaked animation speeds 17:53 Calinou put node destruction back (they spawn in deep underground anyway) 17:55 Jordach Calinou, DMs spawn under 4KM 17:55 Calinou -64 here 17:55 rubenwardy I just redid the snapping to allow variable grid sizes, and made it actually work 17:55 Calinou I'll make them die in sunlight just in case 17:57 Megaf ok, now I can create new objects, but I have no idea how to add them to my server 17:57 Megaf Ah 17:57 rubenwardy Jordach, the snapping has been fixed. The old one had some wierd snap zone thing that was unnessacary, which has been removed 17:57 Megaf Just figured out :) 17:58 Megaf rubenwardy: I miss a clone tool and rotate thing 17:58 Megaf also, some way to move the camera on perspective view 17:58 markveidemanis Okay I need some help 17:58 rubenwardy WASD 17:58 rubenwardy ^ Megaf 17:59 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9120451 Just does nothign 18:01 Jordach rubenwardy, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cm10BaegWLJQ.png 18:01 Jordach fits within a single node and is easily texturable 18:01 sfan5 that's one high sink 18:01 rubenwardy record player? 18:01 Jordach yarp 18:02 Jordach it'd take me a while to import it, but definitely possible 18:04 Megaf Jordach: there are some games for Linux already http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/ 18:06 Megaf ok, none of them are good =/ 18:06 sfan5 Megaf: EDGE is good 18:11 rubenwardy Added suggestions to https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/issues?state=open 18:13 Jordach Megaf, not enough decent games 18:13 Jordach nor Winamp, the best music player ever 18:13 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/v0Wjg84hNlfR.png 18:13 Calinou nyan 18:13 sfan5 Jordach: lolwut, amarok 18:13 sfan5 is way better 18:13 rubenwardy Commit Add dynamic snapping - https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/commit/a907c745683364ce5e0070b3b3cb6a6174c604fa 18:13 rubenwardy Fixes the snapping problem 18:14 sfan5 Calinou: it's written like this: にやん 18:15 Calinou Carbone now has more nyan cats (not as much as on the screenshot, thankfully) 18:17 Jordach mew ;3 18:17 Krock Calinou, :) ( :( ) 18:18 Jordach interesting fact: cook time is pointless (i prefer the MC method of all have the same time, the fuel is what matters) 18:18 sfan5 no u 18:18 Jordach and is the replacements availible in furnaces yet? 18:18 Krock Jordach, put lava buket in and check it 18:18 Krock result = true 18:19 Calinou I like different cook times, it's an unique feature 18:19 Calinou here, meat is a nice food, but takes 25 seconds to cook 18:19 Calinou (IRL, it takes a lot of time too) 18:19 Calinou I had 3 instances of Minetest running... x_x 18:19 Calinou all in main menu 18:20 * Calinou beat his longest streak on GitHub: 6 days 18:24 Jordach ouch 18:24 Jordach BFD already weighs in at 15.5mb 18:26 VanessaE_ Calinou: christ in a cartoon, that's a lot of nyan cats 18:27 Calinou ~9.5MB for carbone after being cloned 18:27 Calinou minetest_next is ~6MB 18:28 Calinou VanessaE_, I changed 16*16*16 to 4*4*4 18:28 Calinou now it's at 14*14*14 (in “volume” variable) 18:28 Calinou mapgen.lua 18:28 Calinou (and I made them spawnable at any height) 18:28 Calinou (like it was in 0.3.1 :P) 18:30 Krock Calinou, how about adding all facedirs and generate up and down flying cats? :3 18:30 Calinou meh 18:30 Calinou the nyan cat video/gif is horizonta 18:30 Calinou horizontal* 18:31 Krock break out of the limitations 18:31 VanessaE_ I should change my game to use HDX 64px for its default textures :) 18:31 VanessaE_ naw, maybe not :P 18:32 * Jordach will fucking kill you 18:32 Jordach literally. 18:32 VanessaE_ lol 18:32 Jordach /nick VanessaE 18:32 VanessaE_ why, afraid BFD can't compete with that? ;) 18:32 Jordach that's pissing me off too ;) 18:33 Jordach VanessaE_, got oil generating like a mofo :D 18:34 VanessaE_ cool 18:34 Jordach it also has a burn time of 360 18:35 Calinou Jordach literally works at Bethesda 18:35 Calinou probably worked on The Elder Trolls Online 18:35 Jordach HAH 18:35 Calinou (I finally made that pun) 18:37 VanessaE_ Dreambuilder has a metric fuckload of content but I need help documenting all of it :P 18:38 Jordach VanessaE_, that's why BFD reinvents everything 18:39 Calinou wiki has 456K visits since its creation 18:40 Calinou 163 visits per edit 18:40 Calinou User talk:BlockMen 89 424 18:40 Calinou they are popular, their page is viewed more often than the main page 18:40 Calinou :trollface: 18:43 sfan5 !sfu this no longere works, does it? 18:43 MinetestBot sfan5: No Results found 18:44 sfan5 mh 18:44 markveidemanis !sfu cats 18:44 MinetestBot markveidemanis: No Results found 18:44 markveidemanis !sfu minetest 18:44 MinetestBot markveidemanis: No Results found 18:53 rubenwardy NodeBoxEditor commit: Add some keyboard shortcuts ( http://tinyurl.com/n54rfdb 18:53 rubenwardy ) 18:53 rubenwardy Now for a clone button 18:53 Megaf Jordach: XMMS2 18:54 Megaf and theres another one, I dont remember now 18:54 Megaf and theres winamp for linux too... 18:54 Megaf well, bye 19:03 rubenwardy Bye all! 19:07 PenguinDad !sfu *kitteh* 19:07 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No Results found 19:21 crazyR how could i make a lua function that searches the logs for anything with a players name in it 19:21 crazyR function search_log(playername) -bla bla bla end <-- 19:22 crazyR maybe put each line found into a array/table 19:34 Jordach kaeza, 2 days 20:01 Jordach FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU https://cdn.mediacru.sh/7S60gO9dUdHU.png 20:03 * sfan5 purrs at Jordach 20:03 * Jordach is looking for oil now that it generates 20:03 Jordach never found it through normal gameplay... 20:03 sfan5 おやすみ~ 20:04 * Jordach is also going to start making more biomes to explore 20:32 BlockMen john_minetest, in MT worlds there is no US government ;P 20:32 markveidemanis Anyone else see that? 20:43 ShadowNinja ~aka add rev reverse 20:43 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K. 21:01 S0ckb4t Hi! Quick question please: How can I run a modpack from a run-in-place installation? I have other (single) mods in minetest/mods which run nicely, but the modpack is ignored. which modname do I need for a modpack in world.mt in the world directory? 21:02 S0ckb4t I'm trying to run Minetest-WorldEdit-1.0 21:04 VanessaE_ drop the modpack in /mods and enable it in your world config. 21:04 VanessaE_ (via the menu) 21:05 S0ckb4t Hi VanessaE. hm ok, not sure what that menu is 21:05 VanessaE_ the main menu 21:06 VanessaE_ when you click on a world and hit the "Configure" button 21:06 S0ckb4t in my client?? i'm trying to get my server to run the mod 21:06 VanessaE_ click on the modpack in the list and click "Enable MP" at the top of the list 21:06 VanessaE_ oh derp 21:06 VanessaE_ you didn't say it was for a server 21:06 S0ckb4t Haha, sorry... 21:08 ShadowNinja S0ckb4t: Every mod in the pack has to be enabled individually. 21:08 VanessaE_ not sure off the top of my head 21:09 VanessaE_ oh, that answers that. 21:09 ShadowNinja S0ckb4t: And the modpack name can't conflict with a mod name (bug). 21:10 S0ckb4t Thanks Shadow I tried adding the names (subfolders) from the modpack as load_mod_ = true 21:10 S0ckb4t in world.mt in the world directory. then when I looked later those new entries were set to false 21:15 S0ckb4t Oh! I got it 21:16 S0ckb4t So, I need to copy mods or modpacks to minetest/mods. Then the modnames are added automatically to world.mt but set to false. Then I change the setting to true and it works. 21:16 S0ckb4t Thanks anyway, ShadowNinja and VanessaE, your replies helped. 21:42 VanessaE_ I really wish that could be changed 21:42 VanessaE_ if a mod is added to mods or worldmods, it should be enabled by default imho 21:42 VanessaE_ (if its entry isn't already present in world.mt) 21:44 S0ckb4t As with most things, once you know how it works it's fine :) 21:51 LazyJ A bit late in the conversation: 21:51 LazyJ if a mod is added to mods or worldmods, it should be enabled by default imho 21:52 LazyJ I'm of the opposite opinion. 21:52 LazyJ If a mod is placed in "worldmods", then it should be active. 21:53 LazyJ If a mod is placed in "mods" then it should require activation through world.mt or a menu. 21:53 LazyJ I've found that "worldmods" override "mods" and have used that. 21:54 LazyJ Also, by parking mods in the "mods" directory I've used that for testing. 21:54 LazyJ Instead of having to copy/paste mods to activate them, I just edit the world.mt file. 21:55 LazyJ Activate a mod in "mods" and see how it affects or works with another mod in "worldmods". 21:56 LazyJ Some mods may be better purposed when only used when needed (mapgen mods like paramat's "LandUp" mod) so being able to toggle them on and off is useful. 21:56 LazyJ Ok, done typing. ;) 22:02 S0ckb4t Good point LazyJ 22:16 VanessaE_ ok maybe for worldmods, active by default for sure 22:52 MegAFK Hi LazyJ 22:53 LazyJ Owdy, Megaf ;) 22:53 LazyJ Thanks for the Mesecon Light. 22:53 LazyJ *Lights 22:54 LazyJ The reason I used superglowglass is because it's output is what wheat and cotton code requires to grow. 22:55 LazyJ I see I have some new neighbors since I've been away. 22:55 LazyJ How is the RPi creative performing? 22:56 lordcirth LazyJ, so torches can't grow those anymore? 23:02 LazyJ lordcirth, I haven't had any success with torches in underground wheat and cotton farms. 23:02 LazyJ I tested by using WorldEdit to hollow out a large area deep underground in a test world. 23:03 lordcirth LazyJ, I haven't even been able to grow grass or trees with torches anymore 23:03 LazyJ Lined the walls with obsidian, the floor dirt, the ceiling was intentionally too high to be used as a light area so it was obsidian too. 23:04 LazyJ Then I planted trees, jungletrees, wheat, and cotton. 23:04 LazyJ Next to each I made cobble columns to mount the light source on. 23:04 LazyJ Trees and jungletrees will grow with torches. 23:05 FreeFull One thing you can do is use the fractal world generator, and then give yourself just the necessary materials to build a nice place 23:05 LazyJ Dirt will change to dirt_with_grass with torches within 1 block. 23:05 FreeFull So dirt and a sapling 23:05 lordcirth FreeFull, fractal? what kind of fractal does it make? 23:05 FreeFull Mandelbox 23:05 LazyJ Wheat and cotton wouldn't grow with a torch sitting right next to them. 23:06 FreeFull I cheated with worldedit to turn a bit on the corner into dirt 23:06 lordcirth well, I put 7 dirt blocks in a line, surrounded with torches, and in an hour or so, none grew 23:06 LazyJ However, when I set a MoreBlocks superglowglass or HomeDecor glowlight, or Blockmen's glowstone next to the seeds they grew into mature plants. 23:07 lordcirth Then I used /giveme to get 1 dirt_with_grass, and planted a sapling, and that didn't grow either 23:07 LazyJ Then I went back and compared the code of those light sources. 23:08 LazyJ That's when I learned how I learned what "light_source = x," does. 23:08 LazyJ *That's how I learned... 23:11 lordcirth LazyJ, so, they specifically coded it, not for light level, but for the block emitting it? 23:12 lordcirth LazyJ, I guess they figured growing plants with torches shouldn't work. 23:12 LazyJ Hehehe... well, plants typically grow outside in the sun (light_max). 23:13 LazyJ Only us crazy players think of growing things underground. ;) 23:13 LazyJ Not only for underground city purposes but most often as a survival-mode tactic. 23:14 LazyJ But it has been a while since I have tested the light/plants. 23:14 LazyJ Things may have changed since. 23:15 LazyJ On Megaf's server I'm trying to setup a base of operations for renewable supplies. 23:16 LazyJ I don't have much in the way of space above ground so I'm trying to maximize the space I do have. 23:16 FreeFull I once grew a tree underwater 23:16 LazyJ Protected space that is. The MT world is massive, of course. 23:17 LazyJ Time to stretch my legs. afk