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00:21 VanessaE sfan5: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7326249/
00:21 VanessaE not entirely sure what happened there, I wasn't the one that triggered this crash
00:25 * VanessaE files an issue.
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00:59 hoodedice Exio4: No matter which prog class you take, it can't be worse than mine
00:59 Exio4 why?
01:00 hoodedice I have this intro to computing class
01:00 hoodedice And the professor uses this custom language
01:00 hoodedice Which converts to java and then executes in a cmd
01:01 hoodedice I might think it might be useful for learning programming theory
01:01 Exio4 man
01:01 hoodedice But at the end of the day, I cannot make an android app, or a minetest mod
01:01 Exio4 we're not using any language
01:01 Exio4 just pseudocode in paper
01:02 hoodedice oh
01:02 hoodedice That's even worse
01:02 Exio4 see
01:02 * hoodedice slinks into a corner
01:02 Exio4 we have the fkng computers right to our chairs
01:02 Exio4 AND WE DON'T USE THEM
01:02 Exio4 that is pure sadness
01:03 * hoodedice is washed away by the feels
01:03 hoodedice !rainbow feels feels feels feels feels feels feels feels feels feels feels feels feels feels feels
01:03 MinetestBot 4f4e4e7l7s7 8f8e8e3l3s3 fee6l6s6 fee4l4s4 7f7e7e8l8s8 3f3e3els 6f6e6els 4f4e4e7l7s7 8f8e8e3l3s3 fee6l6s6 fee4l4s4 7f7e7e8l8s8 3f3e3els 6f6e6els 4f4e4e7l7s
01:03 Exio4 legit rainbow
01:04 hoodedice =O
01:05 Exio4 don't let them in, don't let them see ~
01:05 kaeza ooohh I love when programming teachers teach you ~8months of theory (pseudocode) and then proceed to "implement" helloworld.foo as "practice"
01:05 kaeza srsly wtf
01:05 hoodedice var x = "hello world";
01:05 hoodedice print x
01:05 Exio4 our "first language" will be.... C++
01:06 hoodedice See, I don't even java
01:06 kaeza Exio4, my condolences D:
01:06 Exio4 seriously, not even as second or third language C++ is good
01:06 Exio4 it is like "use only when there is nothing better" language
01:06 hoodedice Don't worry Exio4
01:07 hoodedice You'll be able to do Core stuff in just one semester
01:07 Exio4 lol
01:07 hoodedice While puny idiots like me have to wait like, 2 years?
01:07 Exio4 we'll be learning while loops in C++
01:07 Exio4 and we're not going to see any C++ feature
01:07 Exio4 that is, we could be use C
01:07 hoodedice Next semester - java
01:08 hoodedice After that " data algorithms" or something - could be C
01:08 Exio4 java? we see that in second-third year
01:08 Exio4 then we see php
01:08 Exio4 (wtf php in 2014)
01:08 hoodedice whois Exio4
01:08 kaeza lol PHP
01:08 * hoodedice just failed.
01:08 kaeza better drink my own piss
01:08 Exio4 Esteban Ruiz Moreno hoodedice, gateway/tor-sasl/exio4
01:09 hoodedice Exio == Esteban =O
01:09 hoodedice =O == surprised emote
01:11 Exio4 lol why
01:11 hoodedice Actually, even if you use cloaks, your nice host server gives your geo location away =P
01:11 kaeza 8=D == a happy face with a funny hat
01:11 Exio4 suuure
01:11 Exio4 hoodedice: wut?
01:12 Exio4 you could just ask me and i'll tell you i'm argentinian
01:12 hoodedice I just wanted to know where you're from, because India is the only twisted country I know where they teach C before Java
01:12 Exio4 Java is shit as teaching language
01:12 Exio4 and also for a every-day language
01:12 hoodedice If I had a choice
01:12 kaeza hoodedice, first language teached here is plain C
01:12 * kaeza rejoices
01:13 Exio4 plain C <3
01:13 hoodedice I would not have learnt java
01:13 hoodedice C = plain C
01:13 Exio4 anyway
01:13 Exio4 i think learning a funcional language
01:13 Exio4 *cough* racket *cough*
01:13 Exio4 would have been way better
01:13 hoodedice I think they should start with python
01:13 hoodedice or lua
01:13 hoodedice in love2D or Minetest
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01:14 kaeza python is good, but don't know about teaching dynamic typing to beginners
01:15 kaeza that's just me though
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01:15 hoodedice My professor: "I hate having  to force people to indent"
01:17 Exio4 python sux because that :3
01:17 Exio4 anyway
01:17 Exio4 kaeza: i think teaching "dynamic typing" would be easier because people wouldn't need to care about types
01:17 hoodedice inb4 idk wut dynamic typing is
01:17 kahrl you could make the upload interface simply reject code that is badly indented
01:17 hoodedice !g dynamic typing
01:17 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_system
01:18 Exio4 or at least, use something like SML kaeza
01:18 hoodedice dazwiz is this shit?!
01:18 Exio4 it isn't dynamic typing, but doesn't force you to set what type is each thing
01:18 Exio4 the language can find the "more general" type that can be used in a funcion :P
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01:44 brandon__ VanessaE, your server froze
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01:53 twoelk and other strange stuff happened
01:53 lordcirth Is there a updated guide to the luacontroller's sandboxed language?  I know some things have changed, but I can't find a list, and the code is rather difficult.
01:54 twoelk something like a random rollback on VE-Minetest(mostlyVanilla)
01:54 brandon__ VanessaE, when trying to get on your server it said my version is umcompatable? im using minetest 0.4.9
01:55 brandon__ !i
01:56 hoodedice brandon__: Please run this following command in a terminal
01:56 hoodedice Are you on ubuntu?
01:56 brandon__ hoodedice, yeah
01:56 brandon__ xD
01:56 twoelk just entered VE-Minetest with a client from 2010-04-15
01:56 hoodedice sudo apt-get install patience
01:56 brandon__ hoodedice, aha
01:56 brandon__ MinetestBot, I love you
01:57 twoelk damn 2014-04-15 of course
01:58 * twoelk hides his timeline screwing tardis
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02:04 twoelk seems the server crash of VE-Minetest one and a half hours ago redecorated my mine extentions of today :-(
02:12 kaeza I see no probem with VE-Minetest
02:12 kaeza brandon__, there's also #minetest @ irc.inchra.net
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02:13 brandon__ kaeza, ok xD
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02:18 twoelk kaeza:nothing wrong with VE-Minetest just now. It's just that I have random blocks hanging in mid air now that I cleared out several hours ago.
02:18 kaeza ·_·
02:19 twoelk and I cant make out what was selected
02:19 twoelk might be the same effect that looks like griefing on other buildings
02:22 twoelk gtg
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03:25 brandon__ http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodiu​m/chemistry/quaalude.cheapskate.html
03:25 brandon__ anyone trying to make soome quaaludes?
03:25 brandon__ xD im sorry i shouldnt have posted that
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04:17 Hirato_ sheez, do you guys really need 3 database backends? :P
04:23 Hirato_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/2bc2ce3bd159cc7aa7054059ad413e93d05d0211 and why not iterate in reverse like a sane person?
04:26 brandon__ and i told them i invented times new roman
04:51 Hirato_ that's nothing, I infect everything with sans!
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06:28 ShadowNinja The nodebox editor's code looks like Java :'(  vector2d<irr::s32> cpos = editor->GetState()->GetDevice()->getSceneManager(​)->getSceneCollisionManager()->getScreenCoordinat​esFrom3DPosition(pos,editor->GetState()->GetDevic​e()->getSceneManager()->getActiveCamera(),true);
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08:06 Hirato ShadowNinja: please, the vector2d's namespace and template arguments are way too short to be Java ;)
08:07 Hirato sides, the vec2's creation needs to go through some sort of vector factory too ;)
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08:36 reactor Afternoon.
08:41 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Fix directional fog color in front view c5324015bc 2014-04-25T10:35:45+02:00 http://git.io/DhpfUA
08:53 Mikerhinos was it the bug that make the sky black sometimes when you don't look it directly ?
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09:01 reactor What in the hell?
09:01 reactor LevelDB::Database_LevelDB(ServerMap*, std::string): Assertion 'status.ok()' failed.
09:03 reactor This started when I extracted the backup of map.db.
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09:14 reactor Never mind. Extracted everything else, and it started working. Why are messages so uninformative?
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09:29 reactor VanessaE: is there gonna be an "off" version of "glowlight"?
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09:30 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
09:31 Exio4 got Netflix :D
09:32 reactor 'elo
09:33 Exio4 hi reactor
09:33 Exio4 and PilzAdam too
09:45 reactor ...and is there any way to make lights reach farther?
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09:46 raffahacks Hello! I am here again
09:54 PilzAdam wtf https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=139225#p139225
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10:32 BlockMen Mikerhinos, no. this bug:https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=9080
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10:42 Krock hi
10:43 reactor eh
10:43 reactor Why doesn't 'null' video output work anymore?
10:43 Krock What? No renderer?
10:43 reactor does* not work anymore*
10:43 reactor Yep, keeps crashing.
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10:44 rdococ What has nobody done ever that I could do
10:45 Krock reactor, how about software render? much better.
10:45 reactor What's the point?
10:45 rdococ I'm ignored YET AGAIN
10:45 reactor rdococ: ignore yourself, that's what
10:47 Krock Is there already a mod to brush (example) white wool to grey by clicking with a brush thingy on it?
10:47 Krock if (!ExiSTS) Krock.Task.Add("Create brush mod")
10:48 rdococ Does anybody want that?
10:48 rdococ No. So no.
10:48 rdococ Is there already a mod to crash your game? Yes, it's called minecraft
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10:49 rdococ Gawd, I need ideas
10:51 rdococ I've made a mod that makes things fall. That's all. I'm so stupid.
10:55 rdococ I wish you'd give some ideas
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11:29 rdococ Ok so now every second every torch turns off,
11:29 rdococ HARDCORE
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12:20 dynamodan @crazyR, wonder if you can help me with some server setup questions
12:24 PilzAdam sfan5, https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=139251#p139251 "Maybe the error message could be a bit less dramatic though. "redis not found!" makes it sound like a grave problem. Get rid of the exclamation mark."
12:30 dynamodan is this a familiar error to anyone:
12:30 dynamodan armor.lua:252: attempt to call field 'player_register_model' (a nil value)
12:34 reactor Why does it say "x supplied wrong password" for people joining for the first time?!
12:35 dynamodan @reactor, are you sure it is the first time?  If you use a name that is already taken, you'll likely get that error
12:35 reactor I've edited auth.txt while having the server down.
12:35 reactor Did some pruning.
12:38 dynamodan @reactor yeah probably messed up the auth then
12:39 PilzAdam reactor, if disallow_empty_password is true then empty passwords are "wrong"
12:39 reactor it's false
12:39 PilzAdam dynamodan, this isn't twitter
12:40 reactor Is it possible that auth.txt has more than one end-of-file character?
12:40 BlockMen finally Wasteland can be used on lastest dev builds again https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=139266#p139266 :)
12:40 dynamodan PilzAdam, lol most of the world isn't twitter
12:40 PilzAdam reactor, how have you modified auth.txt?
12:41 reactor I ran it through sed, to filter out unfamiliar names
12:41 PilzAdam BlockMen, yay! abusing the group system!
12:41 BlockMen ^ your idea ;P
12:42 dynamodan is this the right place to ask server questions?
12:42 dynamodan I have some to ask.  If this isn't the right place, I'll go away
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12:43 reactor What is strange, right after I prune the file and restart the server, I see new entries.
12:43 reactor Despite no join messages in the log.
12:46 Krock 1) inchraNet == down?  2) made a new mod! woo
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12:58 Megaf Hi everyone
12:58 Exio4 hi
13:00 MinetestBot Hi
13:00 Krock hi
13:01 PilzAdam hi
13:01 reactor 'elo
13:02 dynamodan Hi
13:03 Krock ShadowBot! say hi too
13:03 ShadowBot Krock: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
13:03 Krock <.<
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13:25 reactor What I see is:
13:25 reactor Guest5397::shout,interact
13:25 reactor Server: Guest5397 supplied wrong password
13:26 reactor If trying to log in with a password, but without a name is what they did, I'm gonna lose my belief in humanity.
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13:29 PilzAdam reactor, usually, when connecting the first time with a password you automatically get that password set in auth.txt
13:29 PilzAdam but if the user already has an entry there without a password, then this wont work
13:30 reactor I realise.
13:32 reactor ...where does Buildcraft keep the name setting? 90% of people trying to join, have the name "Admin".
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14:00 CraigyDavi reactor, It's set as "Admin" by default but you can change it just like Guest1234 names.
14:01 reactor I understand. But is it hidden very far?
14:01 CraigyDavi It's exactly where it is normally, bottom right of the server list.
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14:02 reactor What's the big deal about changing it before trying any server?
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14:04 PilzAdam reactor, the average buildcraft user is 4 years old
14:05 Krock *6 years
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14:06 reactor :(
14:06 reactor Also, hmm.
14:07 reactor Why would I get the profiler printing to stdout?
14:07 reactor I have specified the log.
14:09 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I trashed his first two posts.
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14:19 reactor Are there any upload sites suitable for media fetch?
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14:24 ShadowNinja reactor: The one you run with your Minetest server.
14:25 reactor Almost dialup speed here.
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14:29 ShadowNinja reactor: There were plans for cdn.minetest.net or similar.  But I think only freeminer's implemented it.  If so it should be compatible though.
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14:30 Krock 'freeminer' = proller join
14:30 proller wat?
14:30 ShadowNinja Hehe.
14:31 reactor ShadowNinja: ah
14:31 PenguinDad Krock: unexpected symbol near ''freeminer''
14:31 PenguinDad :P
14:31 reactor Well, eh. The problem is most joins are impatient and hang up when they see media loading.
14:31 Krock PenguinDad, yes, string is not accepted as variable name
14:32 PenguinDad if talk == 'freeminer' then proller:join() end
14:33 Krock if talk.contains("freeminer") then proller:join() end
14:34 reactor ...should separate media server be faster even on the same hosting?
14:37 Krock that depends on the speed, not on the location
14:39 reactor So it's not the problem of server's implementation of the way media is sent?
14:39 reactor Some time ago, I'd hear from people that it's inefficient.
14:39 ShadowNinja Krock: if talk:find("freeminer") then proller:join() end
14:40 Krock ShadowBot, exactly.
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14:41 PenguinDad lol ShadowBot
14:42 Krock ugh srsly? Didn't notice the fail
14:42 Krock *ShadowNinja
14:45 PenguinDad wut https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=9167
14:48 PenguinDad that guy looks like a spam bot
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14:53 zsoltisawesome What the duck!
14:54 * PenguinDad squawks at zsoltisawesome
14:56 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: LOL
15:05 ShadowNinja PenguinDad: Banned and deleted.
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15:12 Jordach !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTNwrUSjYF0
15:12 MinetestBot Jordach: DJ Hero - Dizzee Rascal Fix Up Look Sharp vs Justice Genesis - YouTube
15:12 reactor That's right, an hero!
15:15 Jordach reactor, VERY FEW people can beat me at DJ Hero, although it's even known to be truly impossible to beat me at Guitar Hero (espcially when i find the beat + tempo)
15:15 zsoltisawesome lol: http://i.imgur.com/T2YTXrd.png
15:16 reactor Jordach: I thought that was the name.
15:16 reactor s/the/a/
15:18 ShadowNinja The forum seems to have exploded with activity recently.
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15:19 zsoltisawesome probably because of PHPbb over PunBB
15:21 PenguinDad or because of easter holidays
15:22 Krock easter holidays? I want that too
15:22 Jordach Fun fact: don't run MT off of flash drives
15:22 Hirato why not?
15:22 reactor People have holidays on Easter?
15:22 Hirato who doesn't?
15:23 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/HgBLP-4uN0I-.png
15:23 Jordach ^ that
15:23 reactor In Russia, we don't.
15:23 Hirato what's RTT for again?
15:23 Jordach Hirato, Round Trip Time
15:23 Krock RunTime Terrorism
15:24 Jordach i'm getting -1 seconds
15:24 PenguinDad Hirato: Round Trip Time
15:24 Krock I'm getting 0.333, is that worse?
15:24 Hirato super ping, the hero!
15:24 Jordach Krock, i setup a Lan server at my college
15:24 reactor !up mike402.no-ip.biz 50000
15:24 MinetestBot mike402.no-ip.biz:50000 is up (185ms)
15:24 reactor No way!
15:25 PenguinDad Jordach: so your ping is -0.5
15:25 Jordach PenguinDad, i shit myself when i saw that (not literally)
15:25 Jordach also
15:26 Jordach there's a bug with the PNG screenshot encode
15:26 Jordach r*
15:26 Jordach i also spotted it on my tablet too
15:26 Jordach ShadowNinja, look at the water: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/WcFXv9boxpiQ.png
15:27 Hirato lol
15:27 ShadowNinja Jordach: Transparent?  That's pretty neat.
15:27 Hirato I must try thios
15:30 PenguinDad doesn't work on my linux machine :(
15:30 Jordach it's in blockmen's builds
15:30 Jordach (because college machines are 32bit ;( )
15:31 Hirato works fine here
15:32 Hirato heck, the ones here don't even have an alpha channel
15:33 zsoltisawesome Python is very unique
15:34 Jordach shit.
15:34 Jordach just deleted my latest work on BFD
15:34 zsoltisawesome its the only language i know that indentation is required
15:34 Hirato s/very unique/something completely different/
15:34 reactor Python is very unique shit, indeed.
15:35 zsoltisawesome sfan5: you should have MinetestBot kick people for trashing Python
15:35 zsoltisawesome XD
15:35 Jordach python suck
15:35 Jordach s*
15:35 Jordach every major revision breaks more shit
15:36 reactor Holy sh.
15:36 reactor People keep connecting adn disconnecting.
15:36 zsoltisawesome ye
15:36 reactor I doubt ~4M of media would take very long.
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15:38 Jordach !c 15*15*15
15:38 MinetestBot 3375
15:39 PenguinDad !c 15**3
15:39 MinetestBot 3375
15:41 Hirato !c 1 / 0
15:41 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero
15:41 PenguinDad !c 0 / 0
15:41 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero
15:41 Hirato !c 1.0 / 0
15:41 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero
15:41 PenguinDad !c 0.0 / 0
15:41 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero
15:41 Hirato !c print dongs
15:41 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:42 Hirato !c print 'dongs'
15:42 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:42 Hirato !c print('dongs')
15:42 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:42 Hirato bleh <_<
15:43 Hirato !c (1, print (1 + 1))
15:43 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:43 Hirato !c [1, print (1 + 1)]
15:43 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:43 Hirato !c [1, 1 + 1]
15:43 MinetestBot [1, 2]
15:43 zsoltisawesome !say
15:43 PenguinDad !c 10 << 1
15:43 MinetestBot 20
15:43 PenguinDad :)
15:44 * Hirato wonders
15:44 Hirato !c [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] * [[1], [2]. [3], [4], [5]]
15:44 MinetestBot ...
15:44 Hirato lol
15:45 Hirato !c [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] * [[1], [2]]
15:45 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'list'
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15:45 PenguinDad !c 1**0.5
15:45 MinetestBot 1.0
15:45 zsoltisawesome anyone dare to debug a bit of python 2 that i wrote?
15:45 PenguinDad !c 12**0.5
15:45 MinetestBot 3.4641016151377544
15:45 Hirato !c [[1, 2, 3, 4, 5]] * [[1], [2]]
15:45 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'list'
15:45 Hirato bleh
15:45 * Hirato was hoping for matrices :(
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15:46 zsoltisawesome twoelk!
15:46 PenguinDad !c 3*'.'
15:46 MinetestBot '...'
15:46 zsoltisawesome codehero!
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15:46 zsoltisawesome twoelk!
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15:46 zsoltisawesome celeron55!
15:47 PenguinDad hey celeron55
15:47 zsoltisawesome (i really need to get a life)
15:47 twoelk eh? I joined twice?
15:47 celeron55 poll: what kind of games would minetest be most succesful on if new features were focused mostly on them?
15:48 Jordach quite good
15:48 Jordach and i'm not sure on how the ores system works
15:49 ShadowNinja Hirato: -> PM
15:49 Hirato hmm?
15:50 Jordach is there a way to make ore blobs
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15:50 zsoltisawesome CraigyDavi!
15:50 CraigyDavi hi
15:53 Jordach gah
15:54 * twoelk is still digesting the c55 question
15:54 Jordach anyone got reasonable practice with ores
15:55 zsoltisawesome not me
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15:59 zsoltisawesome what the duck!
16:00 zsoltisawesome CraigyDavi: your forum post about your server ,ade my computer crash because of the HUGE MinetestMapper images
16:00 zsoltisawesome *made
16:00 CraigyDavi Sorry about that! Not sure what I can do about that though.
16:01 zsoltisawesome the spoilers seem to be working, so maybe put them in spoilers?
16:01 zsoltisawesome or just have a text link?
16:01 CraigyDavi Hmmm possibly, although I'd rather people be able to see them more clearly.
16:02 zsoltisawesome true
16:02 CraigyDavi i think ill create a text link maybe but make it clear
16:02 zsoltisawesome hmm
16:04 zsoltisawesome it might be because of my lack of good RAM
16:04 zsoltisawesome i only have 2GB and 1GB+ is constantly being used by my broswer
16:06 zsoltisawesome CraigyDavi: have you made any mods?
16:07 CraigyDavi Yes a couple. I'm in the progress of some mods and games at the moment too.
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16:07 zsoltisawesome fun
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16:08 CraigyDavi Yep
16:08 Eater4 hi
16:08 zsoltisawesome any of them use LuaSocket?
16:09 zsoltisawesome i wish someone would show me how
16:09 zsoltisawesome because i need to grab dynamic textures from the web and texute blocks with them
16:10 CraigyDavi Nope
16:10 CraigyDavi Hi Eater4.
16:10 CraigyDavi Opps dunno why those names appeared
16:10 Calinou C++ minetestmapper is faster, not sure if it is up-to-date
16:11 Krock zsoltisawesome, tell me when you made something with LuaSocket, then I'll copy your codes and make a win32 IRC mod for it
16:11 PenguinDad Calinou: the official minetestmapper is up to date
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16:13 zsoltisawesome Krock: sounds good
16:13 celeron55 twoelk: i'll wait here for tonight; apparently there are zero answers so far
16:13 zsoltisawesome i know kaeza knows how
16:13 PenguinDad except of the fact that it doesn't support redis yet
16:13 zsoltisawesome i'll ask kaeza latter
16:14 zsoltisawesome celeron55: tonight?
16:14 Calinou PenguinDad, but it's Python?
16:14 Calinou Krock, don't you just need a .dll in order to have IRC support on Windows?
16:14 twoelk I'm not sure I understand the question correctly
16:15 twoelk are you looking for a promising feature to focus people on?
16:15 PenguinDad Calinou: I'm talking about this one https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper
16:15 Krock Calinou, I got a LuaSocket core.dll already, no idea how to implent that...
16:15 zsoltisawesome what the fuck
16:16 * Krock is eating...
16:16 zsoltisawesome LuaSocket _cannot_ be used in a MT mod
16:16 Jordach on windows
16:17 Jordach linux has static libs to be able to do that
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16:17 zsoltisawesome Jordach: they physically cannot be mods
16:17 Jordach https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc
16:17 Jordach BULLSHIT
16:17 zsoltisawesome C (and Compiling) != Lua
16:18 zsoltisawesome its in damn C
16:18 zsoltisawesome C != MT Mod
16:18 Jordach zsoltisawesome, it has to COMPILE the LuaSockeyt
16:18 zsoltisawesome Lua == MTMod
16:18 Jordach ShadowNinja, deal with this n0b
16:18 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: the mod is written in lua
16:18 Jordach n00b
16:18 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: no way
16:19 Jordach https://github.com/kaeza/minete​st-irc/blob/master/src/init.lua
16:19 zsoltisawesome LuaSocket (how fucking ironic) isn't in Lua
16:19 Jordach zsoltisawesome, just because some lib isn't written in the same lang doesn't make it something else
16:19 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: LuaSocket isn't the actual mod
16:20 zsoltisawesome I know
16:20 Jordach that's you're problem for being a python 04,09FOOL
16:20 Jordach Lua master race
16:20 zsoltisawesome you cant incorporate it into a mod
16:20 zsoltisawesome you have to compile it into the engine
16:20 zsoltisawesome :/
16:20 Jordach YOU DON'T
16:20 zsoltisawesome then why the fuck is it in c?
16:21 PenguinDad erm ... NO!
16:21 Jordach LuaSocket is run as a lib WITH the Minetest Engine
16:21 Jordach if it doesn't compute, i'll do the python method
16:21 Jordach import LuaSocket
16:21 Jordach the same method applies
16:21 zsoltisawesome you still need engine modification tho, right?
16:22 PenguinDad NO!
16:22 Jordach no
16:22 Jordach it's LINKED TO A STATIC LIB OF LUA
16:22 Jordach did you nead RTFM
16:22 zsoltisawesome cause MT wont know that said library is there
16:22 PenguinDad but lua knows that
16:22 * Jordach is close to typing /msg chanserv op #minetest Jordach
16:23 Jordach i'd sit the fuck back down and read the readme.md
16:23 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: oh
16:23 zsoltisawesome so lua knows about a c library that does lua communications?
16:24 zsoltisawesome or a lua library?
16:24 zsoltisawesome i'm fucking confused
16:25 zsoltisawesome #whattheduck just happened
16:25 MinetestBot zsolisawesome, someone thinks you should read the manual. The wiki for dev related questions is at http://dev.minetest.net , the regular wiki is at http://wiki.minetest.net.
16:28 celeron55 twoelk: not directly
16:29 dynamodan lol I think zsoltisawesome got a message from the bot
16:30 MinetestBot GIT: zefram@fysh.org commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: fix programming microcontroller through form f1eaee2281 2014-04-25T18:30:59+02:00 http://git.io/lth3-A
16:30 celeron55 twoelk: i'm looking for whether people have thought about which of the game types currently supported would be worth improving from the engine development standpoint
16:31 Jordach celeron55, entities and mob ai should ideally be implemented
16:32 celeron55 Jordach: so what kind of games will that benefit?
16:32 Jordach celeron55, shooting games, games with AI
16:33 Jordach say shooter bots
16:33 celeron55 i really am not interested in any particular feature
16:33 celeron55 that's why i want to hear game types, not features
16:34 celeron55 i used a couple of days for trying to figure this out myself and did end up with something, but i don't have that much first-hand experience
16:35 Jordach celeron55, it's possible for RTS games
16:35 Jordach (doable with pure black nodes that clear when micro entities move around)
16:35 celeron55 are you seriously suggesting minetest would be any kind of optimal platform for RTS games?
16:35 zsoltisawesome lol
16:36 Jordach celeron55, considering how clunky ternadim is ;)
16:36 Megaf Hi all, should I empty the cache folder on my server?
16:36 zsoltisawesome i need kelp
16:36 celeron55 Jordach: that game is designed completely differently from a technical standpoint
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16:36 celeron55 actually, minetest could work for RTSes, but not for such with many units
16:37 Jordach celeron55, merge units, Civilisation style
16:37 Jordach eg, 4 units = 1 small army, 4 smalls = 1 large
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16:37 celeron55 eh
16:37 celeron55 no, just no
16:37 celeron55 okay so Jordach is done
16:37 * celeron55 waits for other people
16:38 zsoltisawesome I need to make a mod that pulls these textures every 5 seconds and uses them on blocks: http://www.random.org/bitmaps/?format=pn​g&amp;width=16&amp;height=16&amp;zoom=1
16:38 Jordach zsoltisawesome, textures are loaded once and that's it
16:38 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: you can't change textures at runtime
16:38 zsoltisawesome damn
16:39 zsoltisawesome such limits
16:39 * zsoltisawesome goes to look at the Minecraft code again
16:39 rubenwardy Hi all!
16:39 celeron55 that's doable in the engine but adds complexity, so won't be added unless there is a good use for it
16:40 * zsoltisawesome finds nothing useful
16:40 celeron55 ...bitmaps from random.org isn't a good use 8)
16:40 rubenwardy Talking about Minetest + RTSs, I started writing a SH2 style subgame
16:40 zsoltisawesome rubenwardy: good for you!
16:41 dynamodan celeron55 your work is fantastic, I'm setting up a MT server and am very impressed with its extensibility
16:41 dynamodan have run MC craftbukkit server in the past, it has mods, but everythings in java, bleah
16:41 zsoltisawesome cheetos!
16:41 zsoltisawesome dynamodan: +1
16:42 zsoltisawesome i am running one at this very moment
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16:42 zsoltisawesome i hate java
16:42 dynamodan zsoltisawesome you'll love lua!  I barely know lua but loving it already just poking around in the mods
16:43 dynamodan btw I'm a perl programmer and also into javascript, and some other web langs, do a little C on microcontrollers,
16:43 dynamodan but regarding lua,
16:44 Calinou new page translated
16:44 dynamodan I detected some debate about it being a language,
16:44 zsoltisawesome really?
16:44 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.net/Server/fr
16:44 dynamodan lol
16:45 zsoltisawesome imo its definitely a language
16:45 Calinou Lua is nice, it's getting more and more used, especially in games
16:45 Calinou it's an useful language to know, which starts to “give jobs” (but less than say, Python)
16:45 proller lua is language for aliens from predators
16:45 proller not for humans
16:46 lordcirth Only weird thing about lua is the counting from 1
16:46 zsoltisawesome lordcirth!!!!!
16:46 dynamodan szoltisawesome yeah I saw something in the scrollback about LuaSocket or something, maybe there wasnt' debate
16:46 dynamodan but anyways
16:46 proller if 0 then print "wtf".."lang" end
16:46 celeron55 rubenwardy: it isn't an RTS, but a third person whatever game, right?
16:46 dynamodan Lua in MT is to C, what javascript is to a browser, or something like that
16:47 twoelk Calinou: concerning the Wiki, how should the different language pages be organized? With a language category like Kaeza did for spanish?
16:47 rubenwardy Well, the user places castle walls and industry buildings. There are no units or carts or anything like that.
16:48 Megaf dynamodan: so, it's something that make the browser slow, heaby and crashy?
16:48 dynamodan that's how I'm understanding it.  BTW one good reason MT is in C, is the Irrlicht 3d engine, if I have my facts
16:48 Megaf heavy*
16:48 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, yes?
16:48 zsoltisawesome nice to see you gain
16:48 dynamodan Megaf, yeah if you're running IE, rotfl
16:48 zsoltisawesome *again
16:48 twoelk and should there not be a direct link from the page of one language to another as on the main page?
16:48 celeron55 rubenwardy: wait, what SH2 are you referring to?
16:49 rubenwardy Stronghold 2
16:49 dynamodan haha well I better jump off before I get into more trouble
16:49 rubenwardy Sorry
16:49 Megaf dynamodan: IE is a pretty damn good browser
16:49 * Megaf runs away
16:49 dynamodan haha
16:49 dynamodan rolling on the floor crying now
16:50 celeron55 rubenwardy: oh okay, that makes sense
16:50 * zsoltisawesome runs after MegaF
16:50 dynamodan dynamodan runs out the door screaming
16:50 * Megaf runs faster shouting "Microsoft for the win!"
16:50 zsoltisawesome dynamodan: ./me
16:51 * zsoltisawesome slaps MegaF
16:51 dynamodan microsoft desperately needs people to cheer for them
16:51 Megaf not me
16:51 zsoltisawesome lol
16:51 twoelk like some tyrant?
16:51 Megaf in my opinion Microsoft could just vanish in ashes, no problem
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16:52 twoelk "you better cheer now or I will disconnect you"
16:52 zsoltisawesome people wouldn't be computers anymore
16:52 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, yeah, it's been a while, eh? Jeija reminded me about a pull request, so I started fixing up some old mod code so he can merge it,
16:52 zsoltisawesome cool
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16:53 zsoltisawesome "people wouldn't be computers anymore" LOL
16:53 zsoltisawesome *buy
16:53 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, yeah, so it looks like digilines mod will soon include a keyboard, and a old-style terminal :)
16:54 zsoltisawesome awesome
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16:55 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, yeah, I was kinda impressed by how well it works, considering the engine support for such things is nonexistent
16:55 zsoltisawesome really?
16:55 zsoltisawesome wow
16:56 Megaf Just updated digilines on my server
16:56 Megaf it would be could some bash like thing on it
16:56 Megaf or other shell
16:57 Jeija speaking about nonexistent engine support... Is there any way we can have some curl access in lua? e.g. by hardcoding some trusted servers or by forwarding all requests over a trusted server or sth?
16:57 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, yeah, if you read the code, you will see.  It is horrible.  But it works alright.  Main thing is, I can't have a node reopen its formspec when submitted.
16:57 Calinou why hardcode trusted servers? it should be up to the user
16:58 Calinou ideally, we would have media control
16:58 Calinou such as “Download everything”, “Everything but sounds”, “Only essential data”
16:58 Jeija Maybe provide some list where users can enter what servers they trust that comes with some preloaded or something?
16:59 Calinou twoelk, that could work... (the category)
16:59 Calinou I don't like the concept of server trust
16:59 Calinou it sounds bad
17:00 crazyR would be cool if links clickable and opened in users default browser too, would make directing players to our forums/websites easier
17:00 Jeija It just all goes back to https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/490
17:00 Jeija I thought about using such a feature for people sharing their luacontroller code snippets with others.
17:01 lordcirth Jeija, yeah, anything that helps copypasting luacontroller stuff would be great.  Maybe pastebin support?
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17:03 Jeija I'd prefer a seperate web service, but yet support for that is lacking. So to make it secure you would propose to just let users configure a list of URLs that can be accessed?
17:03 celeron55 umm...
17:03 celeron55 i wonder if someone has some idea about why nothing is happening to that pull request
17:03 celeron55 there's no decision to any direction in the comments at least
17:04 Jeija Propably security and virus-mods, like some people coding some bitcoin-mining mod that sends all the money to their wallets or something.
17:04 Calinou sharing luacontrollers is probably an overrated feature, if you do it in-game
17:04 Calinou Jeija, always prompt users upon download?
17:04 Calinou to add that pull
17:05 Jeija the issue is that the curl would be surverside while prompting users would be the client
17:05 PenguinDad bitcoin mining in lua is so effective!!1!
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17:05 Jeija *serverside
17:06 crazyR hmmm time to check out mods make sure theres no foul code in there lol
17:06 crazyR :P
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17:08 paramat celeron55, im biased but my answer is: games with alternative lua mapgen (alien planets, moon, asteroids, weird realms, dimensions, floatlands etc.) seem to be popular but players don't like the 5s per chunk gen time, the corresponding feature (that i very much hope for) is threaded lua mapgen
17:10 Jordach oioi paramat
17:10 Jordach paramat, feeling lucky by chance? because i'm in need of you're magic concerning worldgen
17:11 zsoltisawesome i forget
17:11 celeron55 paramat: do they not like it because it's slow, or because it makes everything else laggy?
17:11 zsoltisawesome so git clone then git add then git commit, then what?
17:11 Jordach git push
17:12 zsoltisawesome thanks
17:12 Calinou PenguinDad, Mesecoin
17:12 Calinou or just mining maptools:gold_coin's
17:12 PenguinDad optimized for lua mining xD
17:14 zsoltisawesome what the hell? https://github.com/ManOfMinetest​24/moontest/tree/stable-0.4/mods
17:14 zsoltisawesome moonrealm is nonaccessable
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17:14 paramat celeron55, because the mapgen locks up the server for 5s at a time, the 5s per chunk itself is not a problem
17:15 Mikerhinos hi
17:15 troller in threaded lua mapgen it will be same 5s per chunk
17:16 troller you cant fall and cant walk fast
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17:16 troller and need to wait minites to look around
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17:16 Krock Soooo
17:17 Mikerhinos o/
17:17 paramat \o
17:17 Krock Exchanged the power converter (or whatever). Let's see if it's cooler now
17:18 Krock The other overheated everytime
17:18 Krock (of PC)
17:19 Calinou categorized French pages on the wiki
17:19 Calinou Krock, the thing you should do is... clean the dust
17:19 Krock Calinou, you have no idea how much dust dropped out when I blow into it
17:19 lordcirth Krock, yeah, clean out the CPU's heatsink, that's the #1 cause of overheat
17:19 Jordach Krock, get a Dyson into it
17:20 Krock Opened the whole computer, the power converter, opened the window, BLOW
17:20 Krock lordcirth, already did that 2 weeks ago ;)
17:20 Calinou 106 edits on wiki!
17:20 Calinou Jordach, no.
17:20 Krock Celebration?
17:20 Calinou lordcirth, all of them, not just CPU
17:21 Calinou graphics card is subject to dust too
17:21 Jordach Calinou, that's what i often do to clear dust
17:21 Calinou like case fans
17:21 Calinou you should clean dust yearly at least
17:21 Calinou more if you have lots of smoke around
17:22 Krock I always wondered what causes that warm air...the power converter used even more voltages on heating than theCPU
17:22 Krock Weird things happen
17:22 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Remove useless MSVC project files cd14259bd9 2014-04-25T19:20:58+02:00 http://git.io/aAB7iQ
17:22 Krock anyway, replaced that odd thing now
17:23 Calinou twoelk, I edited one of your pages to fix typos and add Carbone description
17:23 Krock Jordach, a windy, light rainy day does it too :P
17:23 Calinou (it's a non-disruptive edit)
17:23 Calinou shouldn't this be User:Twoelk/sandbox1 and sandbox2?
17:24 twoelk Calinou: sandbox is wip, hopefully not one of those
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17:25 Mikerhinos personnally I installed watercooling on both my CPU and GPU, big radiators are less subjects to dust than heatsinks
17:26 sfan5 put your whole pc in cooled oil
17:27 Krock put your wole pc in cooled water
17:27 paramat troller, i know, interupted falling and 'not keeping up with fly/fastwalk' is not necessary, people are used to interupted falling, and fly/fastmove is cheatmove
17:27 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.net/Category:French → 11 pages :)
17:27 sfan5 water will likely break things
17:27 sfan5 use some fluid that can be cooled and does no transfer electrical energy
17:28 Krock example: water with salt
17:28 PenguinDad Liquid Oxygen?
17:28 Krock trolo
17:28 Mikerhinos PenguinDad: I think you mean nitrogen lol
17:28 PenguinDad Mikerhinos: Liquid Oxygen looks nicer
17:28 troller paramat, yes, players must suffer
17:29 troller 5s - not lag, just feature
17:29 paramat oops i mean 'interupted falling, not keeping up with fly and fastwalk is not a problem'
17:29 Mikerhinos PenguinDad: unicorn rainbow urine (didn't find some nicer word for piss lol)
17:30 Krock pee
17:30 Calinou sfan5, demineralized water is often used in watercooling; but in any case, the water is never in contact with electronics
17:30 Mikerhinos unicorn rainbow sparkling cool pee
17:30 Calinou LN2 does work, but is inconvenient for many reasons and dangerous
17:31 twoelk Calinou: ok reverted to your edits, my sorting experiments wouldn't work anyways
17:31 sfan5 Calinou: i know that, but I meant really putting it into the fluid instead of just letting it flow around the CPU & GFX-Card
17:32 Mikerhinos peltier thingies are quite cool too
17:32 twoelk I havn't a clue how this wiki wants to handle user pages. I went with what I found others doing
17:33 Mikerhinos woot 3 new vids to watch in my youtube subscriptions, friday FTW \o/
17:34 Calinou Krock, https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9170 → topic moved
17:34 Calinou also: Pain Troller! ;)
17:34 Krock Calinou, wut? that's not requested to move :P
17:34 Calinou sfan5, some bitcoin mining centers use that kind of stuff
17:34 Calinou it's a special liquid, which always boils
17:34 Krock Calinou, thx anyway
17:35 Calinou Krock, I move suitable mods, that's all
17:35 lordcirth Yeah, some datacenters are making full-immersion rigs now, it's cheaper in the long run.
17:35 Krock Calinou, just because sometimes it took up to a week until they got noticed and moved. Well the chat here is much faster I guess :3
17:37 Krock Krock.Tasks.Stop("Digging in completed things") -> ok.
17:37 Calinou sometimes I walk to the Modding General forum and move all suitable mods
17:40 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/LB571CY.jpg
17:42 Calinou looks like cats after eating Mese
17:43 ShadowNinja zsoltisawesome: It's called LuaSocket because it provides a Lua interface for using (C) sockets.
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17:44 Calinou oh, max avatar size on forums is 128 × 128
17:46 celeron55 no it's not
17:46 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Move the old stuff to doc 3a6d6e4751 2014-04-25T19:33:31+02:00 http://git.io/12m9Hw
17:46 Krock Yay! moar updatez
17:46 celeron55 if it is, it's a bug
17:47 celeron55 that big avatars are super annoying
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17:47 Krock celeron55, how that? 128x128 fits well into the space
17:47 bulletrulz129 Heat Seeking Ghost Of Sex
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17:50 Calinou they're a bit big indeed
17:50 Calinou how about 100×100 max?
17:51 celeron55 Krock: how do i know? originally 128 was allowed, then jordch used it and it was annoying to me
17:51 celeron55 no more proof needed
17:51 Krock ok personal reasons.
17:51 celeron55 64 is the largesg that isn't in the way
17:51 celeron55 t*
17:52 Megaf wise chouce, max of 64x64
17:52 Megaf choice
17:52 Calinou larger avatars allow quicker recognition
17:53 celeron55 did someone change them to 128? afge i changed them to 64? change it back
17:53 sfan5 no they don't
17:53 * Megaf used to me a server admin/owner of web forum abou casemoding and opensource software
17:53 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: NBE comment edited.
17:54 celeron55 hell, i hatte this touchscreen
17:54 rubenwardy seen
17:54 sfan5 touchscreen?
17:54 rubenwardy :P
17:54 sfan5 is it a phone? is it a tablet?
17:54 celeron55 peech recognition would work equally well
17:55 celeron55 +s
17:55 Calinou peach recognition
17:56 bulletrulz129 And I Told Them I Invented Times New Roman!
17:58 paramat peaches recognition interface
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17:59 rubenwardy Found the bug, ShadowNinja
17:59 rubenwardy see pull request
18:00 paramat 128x128 avatars are too big, irritating
18:01 rubenwardy I'll fix it for you :P
18:01 Calinou they are limited at 96×96 by theme
18:06 CraigyDavi hi everyone
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18:08 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: GitHub's merge button is evil!  Also, I intended to add more to that PR.  It was marked as [WIP].  That's the second time something [WIP] by me has been merged.  Maybe I should use [THIS-IS-A-WORK-IN-PROGRESS!​-DO-NOT-MERGE!!!!1!!one!!].  ;-)
18:09 rubenwardy Oh, sorry.
18:09 ShadowNinja NP.  I'll make a new one later.
18:10 rubenwardy Another wierd thing: the icon for both the editor modes are the same XD
18:11 rubenwardy Oh.
18:11 rubenwardy Your code for stopping the loading of icons every tick is a static
18:12 rubenwardy Also, driver->getTexture does not read the texture from the file every time. It caches it
18:12 ShadowNinja Also, x = new Y; if (x == NULL) return 0;  Isn't really needed.  The only thing you can really do when an allocation error occurs is crash.
18:12 ShadowNinja "Could not load file of texture media/x" was spammed in my console.
18:13 ShadowNinja It obviously tried every time, even if only when it failed.
18:13 rubenwardy Ah. It does do that, yes.
18:14 rubenwardy The icons for different mods in Menu state are different.
18:14 rubenwardy *modes
18:15 ShadowNinja I only made media/icon.png fetching static IIRC.
18:16 ShadowNinja Ah.
18:16 ShadowNinja icon() should probably return an actual texture rather than a filename.
18:16 ShadowNinja (static of course)
18:16 rubenwardy Yeah
18:17 ShadowNinja I noticed that NBEditor and NodeEditor share a lot of common code.
18:18 rubenwardy PM :P
18:18 ShadowNinja Just std::string name; and name("node(box)") in the constructor woth some logic in the drawer should do well.
18:28 celeron55 now avatars are limited to 64
18:28 celeron55 also in the theme, so that previously set too large ones now are scaled
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18:33 * Jordach grumbles something about modern connections being much better than 1989
18:42 Calinou :(
18:42 Calinou uploaded back the old avatar
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18:43 raffahacks Hello?
18:43 ShadowNinja D-:  How about a limit of 128x and a theme limit of 96 or so in the viewtopic theme?  That won't be too big and you will be able to see the full one in the profile.
18:43 Calinou but sizes are larger
18:43 Calinou in file size
18:43 Calinou but I'd like that anyway
18:44 bulletrulz129 Krock, did your server crash?
18:44 raffahacks Is megaf here?
18:44 Jordach ShadowNinja, FUCK YE4S
18:44 Jordach -4
18:46 raffahacks Plz don't flame
18:46 raffahacks Wanr a peaceful chan
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18:46 rubenwardy Calinou: we are talking KB here
18:47 bulletrulz129 raffahacks, DONT TALK TO Jordach  like that
18:47 celeron55 ShadowNinja: don't touch it
18:47 ShadowNinja :-(
18:47 celeron55 if you want to look at people's profile pictures, you go to facebook
18:47 celeron55 this is a discussion forum where the main thing is the content of posts
18:48 * ShadowNinja adds FaceBook URL field ;-)
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18:48 bulletrulz129 lol
18:48 BlockMen add "FacePalm" ;P
18:50 raffahacks Hello, celeron55!
18:50 raffahacks Are you the official one?
18:50 rubenwardy ^ lol
18:50 bulletrulz129 raffahacks, no hes fake
18:50 * VanessaE peeks in.
18:51 raffahacks What a pity
18:51 raffahacks Lol
18:51 Calinou I set rats to spawn quite often with simple mobs, I don't see much of them :(
18:51 ShadowNinja raffahacks: "Official one"?  Who makes people official?  I want to be official! :-P
18:51 Calinou rubenwardy, matters for people on limited data plans and slow connections
18:51 VanessaE ShadowNinja: you're officially nuts...is that good enough? ;)
18:52 * Krock releases ShadowNinja as official
18:52 raffahacks Well, i define official the first person who chooses a nick
18:52 Calinou I meet more DM (6000) than rats (2500)
18:52 Calinou lower is more common...
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18:52 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Ah, so YOU make people official!  :-P
18:52 raffahacks Maybe for me you are :)
18:53 VanessaE hah!
18:53 Calinou also, mob jumping is broken in my copy, I don't know why
18:53 Calinou they never jump while attacking
18:53 ShadowNinja raffahacks: I don't know if he was the first one to use that nick.
18:53 Calinou only while not attacking
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18:54 Calinou finally a rat
18:58 Calinou PilzAdam, higher chance is rarer mob spawns, right?
18:58 Calinou it looks like it, looking at api.lua
18:58 PilzAdam yes
18:58 Calinou my rats are quite rare, and I have 2500 chance :/
18:58 raffahacks Did someone port minetest to mac
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18:59 Calinou the spawn conditions are met (dark stone or grass, any height)
18:59 Calinou I'll reduce it even more
19:00 Calinou a rat just suicided in a cave
19:01 Calinou it fell to its great demise
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19:01 Calinou PilzAdam, I'd like to have the ability to spawn several mobs per spawn, is this possible?
19:01 Calinou (spawn rats by groups)
19:02 PilzAdam Calinou, not with the current code
19:02 PilzAdam raffahacks, yes, see the forum
19:02 Calinou and a rat walks into a lava spring! poor...
19:03 raffahacks PilzAdam the 0.4.9?
19:03 PilzAdam dunno, see the forum
19:03 Calinou a water and lava spring crossed... I see pre-generated obsidian inside a spring
19:03 Calinou raffahacks, look at the forum, there seems to be ports, more or less well-working
19:04 Calinou raffahacks, https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=9023
19:05 raffahacks Thank you!
19:06 BrandonReese Calinou I fixed simple mobs not jumping, I'm trying to remember what I changed and I'll throw it up in pastebin when I find it
19:07 Calinou ok, tweaked rat spawns, seems to be good now
19:07 Calinou they are as common as they would be in 0.3, I guess
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19:07 Calinou found 3 rats and a stone monster in a patch, in a cave
19:07 bulletrulz129 i remember the 0.3 days
19:08 bulletrulz129 there were like only 100 people playing
19:08 bulletrulz129 and everyone knew each other
19:08 raffahacks Must go bye
19:08 bulletrulz129 by by raff
19:09 Calinou /clearobjects takes about 30 seconds, that's OK
19:09 bulletrulz129 im going to try to build freeminer agian it fucked up last time
19:10 troller show log
19:10 BrandonReese Calinou I think this was the fix to make mobs jump when chasing a player: http://pastebin.com/CTdJnNSh
19:11 Calinou works, thanks a lot
19:11 Calinou now the mobs are ready to kick ass
19:12 Calinou (they really do)
19:12 Calinou they're harder to beat than in vanilla Simple Mobs ;)
19:12 Calinou (I'm talking about the version included in Carbone)
19:12 BrandonReese I'm writing a game and the mobs get stronger the farther away from 0 0 0 you get
19:13 zsoltisawesome !tw @RealTinyMonster
19:13 zsoltisawesome damn
19:13 Calinou mine just have more health, do more damage, move faster (some)
19:13 Calinou fireballs of DMs are faster, do more damage
19:14 Calinou rats are collected with left click only (consistency)
19:14 Calinou obnoxious sheep sound removed, spawn frequencies adjusted (more mobs, especially rats)
19:18 rubenwardy !tw @RealTinyMonster
19:19 rubenwardy MinetestBot!
19:19 MinetestBot rubenwardy!
19:19 bulletrulz129 MinetestBot,
19:19 bulletrulz129 how are you
19:19 bulletrulz129 MinetestBot!
19:19 MinetestBot bulletrulz129!
19:19 PenguinDad !tw @GitHub
19:19 bulletrulz129 help me MinetestBot
19:19 rubenwardy !help
19:19 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
19:20 bulletrulz129 fuck you MichaelRpdx
19:20 bulletrulz129 no not him!
19:20 rubenwardy lol
19:20 bulletrulz129 fuck you MinetestBot
19:20 bulletrulz129 stfu MinetestBot
19:20 rubenwardy Please don't f_ck him. Not here, not now.
19:20 bulletrulz129 xD
19:21 bulletrulz129 !g pornhub
19:21 MinetestBot bulletrulz129: Gross!
19:21 bulletrulz129 lol
19:21 bulletrulz129 aww
19:21 MinetestBot Results of the GitHub Investigation: https://github.com/blog/1823-res​ults-of-the-github-investigation (@GitHub)
19:21 bulletrulz129 !g dance gavin dance
19:21 PenguinDad :)
19:21 MinetestBot bulletrulz129: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_Gavin_Dance
19:22 bulletrulz129 cool
19:22 * PenguinDad hugs MinetestBot
19:22 bulletrulz129 !g xvid
19:22 MinetestBot bulletrulz129: http://www.xvid.org/
19:22 bulletrulz129 !g xvideos
19:22 MinetestBot bulletrulz129: http://www.xvideos.com/
19:22 bulletrulz129 XD
19:22 MinetestBot error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/ssl.py", line 160, in read)
19:23 PenguinDad wat
19:23 PenguinDad ^ sfan5
19:24 zsoltisawesome can lua check the system time?
19:25 bulletrulz129 !G my penis
19:25 zsoltisawesome :/
19:27 Jordach *krick krack*
19:27 zsoltisawesome does minetest have access to os.time?
19:27 Calinou I managed to make a cobble that looks a lot like Minecraft cobble, lol
19:27 zsoltisawesome fun
19:28 Jordach zsoltisawesome, Minetest has full access to the Lua API
19:28 zsoltisawesome awesome
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19:32 zsoltisawesome so would minetest.set_timeofday((os.time() % 24000) / 24000) get you exact what time it is in the real world mirrored into MT?
19:33 Krock try it.
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19:34 celeron55 ((os.time() % 86400) / 86400 * 2400) should do it (maybe)
19:34 celeron55 you don't need to set that continously though, just set it once and set the time_speed setting to 1
19:35 celeron55 (and sync it once in a while)
19:35 Jordach or just /time 20350 for 8:35pm
19:35 celeron55 oops, typo: ((os.time() % 86400) / 86400 * 24000)
19:36 celeron55 and actually, that gives UTC time
19:37 celeron55 eg. UTC-7: (((os.time() - 7*3600) % 86400) / 86400 * 24000)
19:37 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: (os.time() % 240000) works for me
19:37 PenguinDad forget about that
19:39 zsoltisawesome Jordach: does that really work?
19:40 zsoltisawesome celeron55: can Lua detect timezone?
19:42 celeron55 os.difftime(os.time(), os.time(os.date("!*t"))) gives timezone in seconds which you can put in place of -7*3600
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19:43 celeron55 http://lua-users.org/wiki/TimeZone
19:44 zsoltisawesome ok
19:45 bulletrulz129 !g minetest
19:45 MinetestBot bulletrulz129: http://minetest.net/
19:45 bulletrulz129 !lol
19:46 bulletrulz129 !g anal
19:46 MinetestBot bulletrulz129: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex
19:46 bulletrulz129 xD
19:46 bulletrulz129 !
19:46 bulletrulz129 !g minetest vs minecraft
19:46 MinetestBot bulletrulz129: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5087
19:46 CraigyDavi Just spend about an hour making this image: http://i.imgur.com/GdjCLmC.png What does everyone think of it?
19:46 BlockMen has someone forgot to lock the pc again?
19:46 bulletrulz129 !g and i told them i invented times new roman
19:46 MinetestBot bulletrulz129: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/dancegavinda​nce/anditoldthemiinventedtimesnewroman.html
19:47 zsoltisawesome CraigyDavi: Looks great!
19:47 bulletrulz129 was kicked by Jordach: You should behave, ban might come soon.
19:47 CraigyDavi Thanks :)
19:47 Jordach *krick krack*
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19:48 bulletrulz129 damn Jordach you mean
19:48 bulletrulz129 but i love you still.
19:48 Jordach psh
19:48 Jordach kissing my ass won't get you anywhere
19:49 bulletrulz129 lol i never wanted to kiss ur ugly ass
19:49 bulletrulz129 i just love you and all
19:49 zsoltisawesome lol
19:49 bulletrulz129 lol
19:49 bulletrulz129 okay okat
19:49 bulletrulz129 im calm down
19:51 bulletrulz129 ShadowBot, what are you?
19:52 * Jordach infinitely stares into the distance
19:52 Jordach v_range = 240.0 with all the settings up getting me 67fps
19:53 zsoltisawesome celeron55: does this look ok? http://goo.gl/RBg0Ih
19:53 Jordach zsoltisawesome, quit using shorteners
19:53 Jordach use the direct link
19:53 CraigyDavi zsoltisawesome, I might start aceppting requests to make some with people's names on it either here or maybe in offtopic in the foums.
19:53 zsoltisawesome its too fucking long
19:53 Jordach zsoltisawesome, then pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com
19:54 zsoltisawesome CraigyDavi: sounds fun
19:55 CraigyDavi Yep it is :) I'm also trying out making a plastic like look but its quite hard.
19:55 zsoltisawesome GIMP?
19:55 troller Jordach, how many loaded blocka around?
19:55 zsoltisawesome or PS?
19:56 CraigyDavi PS
19:56 Jordach troller, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cOAmLkEtS2ST.png
19:56 zsoltisawesome awesome
19:56 Jordach NO PERFORMANCE HITS
19:56 zsoltisawesome cool
19:56 khonkhortisan interesting how it still pretends to be low-resolution while adding shadows to squares
19:57 bulletrulz129 anyone wanna buy some crack? $30 a hit and a free copy of minecraft
19:57 bulletrulz129 lol
19:57 khonkhortisan oh, that's depth instead of a texture?
19:57 Jordach the urge to kick
19:58 bulletrulz129 Jordach, sorry man, im like being dumb ill be ontopic now
19:58 khonkhortisan if you use the crack you won't be playing mc
19:58 harrison geometry IS texture
19:58 bulletrulz129 khonkhortisan, how would you know
19:58 harrison silly rabbit
19:58 zsoltisawesome khonkhortisan: true
19:58 khonkhortisan drugs, inc.
19:58 harrison which drugs?
19:58 khonkhortisan the documentary
19:59 Jordach troller, jordach.minetest.net to test the speed (expect lag, not dedicated, and home connection)
19:59 bulletrulz129 there should be a crack mod
19:59 zsoltisawesome khonkhortisan: sounds like a cheese commercial
19:59 harrison i thought you meant "drugs ink" the new tattooing high
19:59 bulletrulz129 for minetest!!!!
19:59 zsoltisawesome an American cheese commerial
19:59 bulletrulz129 it gives you health at first
19:59 bulletrulz129 no it makes u invinviable
19:59 khonkhortisan If there was a high-inducing tattoo ink, a person would end up with black skin after an addiction.
19:59 bulletrulz129 for a limit of time
20:00 zsoltisawesome bulletrulz129: sounds 18+
20:00 zsoltisawesome XD
20:00 bulletrulz129 and after using it you slowly get addicted
20:00 bulletrulz129 and then you can sell it
20:00 bulletrulz129 and become scarface
20:00 bulletrulz129 CALL IT DRUG MARKET MOD
20:00 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net
20:00 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 seems to be down
20:00 Jordach dafuq
20:01 bulletrulz129 it seems legit tho
20:01 bulletrulz129 OR.. we can make a breaking bad mod
20:01 khonkhortisan You'll have to use client-side rendering to make hangovers and the like.
20:01 bulletrulz129 and you have to be walter white and make meth
20:01 bulletrulz129 lol
20:02 khonkhortisan malter mhite and wake weth
20:02 bulletrulz129 lol lets make a singing mod
20:03 bulletrulz129 where you plug a microphone into your pc
20:03 bulletrulz129 and do like an american idol ass shit
20:03 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/VKD7w2LB7Y4M.png
20:03 bulletrulz129 how bout a bloody mod
20:03 bulletrulz129 where when u die its really violent
20:04 Jordach there isn't anything in the API for that
20:04 bulletrulz129 well make it!
20:04 bulletrulz129 then we shall kill them!
20:05 bulletrulz129 AND BURY THEM NEXT TO THE OTHERS!
20:05 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net
20:05 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (146ms)
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20:24 Megaf !up MinetestBot
20:24 MinetestBot Megaf: Invalid Address
20:24 Megaf !up MinetestBot.local
20:24 MinetestBot MinetestBot.local:30000 seems to be down
20:24 Megaf MinetestBot down!
20:24 Calinou lots of changes pushed to Carbone: new HUD textures, updated gravel and water textures, fixed mob jumping...
20:25 Megaf Calinou: What Carbone is?
20:26 Calinou slight tweaks to tree texture too
20:26 VanessaE What do you guys thing of "Drambuilder" for my game?
20:27 VanessaE er Dreambuilder
20:27 Jordach the name?
20:27 Jordach sure
20:27 VanessaE yeah
20:27 harrison Drambilder is better
20:27 VanessaE playing off of my "If you can imagine it, you can build it" idea.
20:28 Calinou PilzBuilder
20:28 Calinou hi VanessaE :)
20:28 PenguinDad Drum Bilder :P
20:29 zsoltisawesome lol
20:31 Megaf Mine will be RPi - Free Your Art
20:31 Megaf It's going to be
20:31 Megaf I'm thinking in something the the background
20:31 harrison http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi​?anagram=dreambuilder&amp;t=1000&amp;a=n
20:31 Calinou Megaf, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=15&amp;t=9033&amp;p=137208#p137208
20:32 harrison i like braided lemur
20:32 Megaf Cool
20:33 Megaf gtg. cya
20:34 zsoltisawesome lol
20:34 zsoltisawesome i like A Lib Murdered
20:34 Krock how can I set an ABM on items like saplings?
20:35 Krock so they autoplant after a time
20:37 zsoltisawesome Blade Rider Um
20:37 zsoltisawesome XD
20:37 CraigyDavi Krock, Could this be of any help? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_gam​e/blob/master/mods/flowers/init.lua#L123
20:38 Krock CraigyDavi, nope. Flowers are nodes
20:38 Krock Items are LuaEntries
20:38 CraigyDavi Ok
20:38 zsoltisawesome this: "Humidity: 100%" is impressive
20:38 zsoltisawesome http://www.worldtimeserver.com/weat​her_in_HU.aspx?forecastid=HUXX0004
20:38 Krock (talking about dropped items)
20:43 Krock Ok, must be done like the builtin_item mod then
20:45 zsoltisawesome :(
20:45 zsoltisawesome there is no .ox ccTLD
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20:53 zsoltisawesome Megaf: you could have a link shortener at meg.af
20:53 zsoltisawesome :D
20:56 blaise wat? minetest-0.9.10? where?
20:56 blaise Already?
20:57 * blaise violently shakes bulletrulz1291
20:57 Jordach ominous cave
20:57 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/tedB6WyktpjW.png
20:57 CraigyDavi You mean 0.4.10? Coming soon I believe, not here yet though.
20:58 * blaise vibrates
20:59 zsoltisawesome lol you could register ant.ac.id
20:59 zsoltisawesome LOL
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21:04 Jordach proller, jordach.minetest.net
21:05 * Krock waves
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21:08 zsoltisawesome #this: http://www.dotfree.com/
21:13 Jordach zsoltisawesome, and preregistered jordach.free
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21:13 john_minetest Hey
21:13 Jordach hey
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21:14 john_minetest !tell sfan5 hey
21:14 MinetestBot john_minetest: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around
21:14 john_minetest !tell rubenwardy hey
21:14 MinetestBot john_minetest: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
21:14 john_minetest :P
21:15 Jordach john_minetest, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTNwrUSjYF0
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21:16 john_minetest I wonder how you play DJ hero.
21:17 john_minetest I guess you get commands like "stop table", "backwards table" and "gain up"
21:17 Jordach john_minetest, very few beat me at DJ Hero battles, but completely undeafeated at Guitar Hero ;)
21:17 Calinou added Throwing to Carbone, tweaked mobs
21:17 Calinou DMs have 15 hearts
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21:31 Calinou I saw an oerkki being followed by a rat
21:31 Calinou now the inverse happens
21:34 Jordach hah
21:36 bulletrulz129 for some reason when downloading something im getting 10 kbs im like lol wut
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21:46 john_minetest The rat is like "sɪʟᴇɴᴄᴇ, ɪ ᴋɪʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ!" and the oerkki "NOOOOO!"
21:49 BlockMen im providing now 32bit AND 64bit minetest builds for windows: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=139372#p139372 :)
21:49 bulletrulz129 NO ONE LIKED WINDOWS BlockMen
21:49 Jordach stfu
21:49 bulletrulz129 xD
21:50 john_minetest Is 3rd person view implemented yet?
21:50 bulletrulz129 stud MinetestBot,
21:50 Jordach yes
21:50 bulletrulz129 stfu MinetestBot,
21:50 Jordach john_minetest, HIT THAT F7
21:50 john_minetest I will h-h-h-h-hit that f7!
21:50 bulletrulz129 im down with brown town
21:50 BlockMen john_minetest, more than a week already ;P
21:51 BlockMen and why is that little kid still here?
21:51 bulletrulz129 BlockMen, ? ive been playing minetest longer then you bro
21:52 bulletrulz129 so if anyones aliittle kid its you
21:52 zsoltisawesome lol
21:52 bulletrulz129 you dont even know me like that bruh
21:52 bulletrulz129 we gonna fade?
21:52 bulletrulz129 xD}
21:52 zsoltisawesome #ageism
21:52 BlockMen lol
21:52 bulletrulz129 im actully 17
21:52 bulletrulz129 xD
21:52 zsoltisawesome still, #ageism
21:52 john_minetest nice
21:52 BlockMen well, you act like a 5 year old
21:53 bulletrulz129 BlockMen, No i just fuck around too much
21:53 bulletrulz129 and btw im down with brown town is a song
21:55 Calinou new rat texture in Carbone
21:55 Calinou <john_minetest> The rat is like "sɪʟᴇɴᴄᴇ, ɪ ᴋɪʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ!" and the oerkki "NOOOOO!"
21:55 Calinou nice small caps :P
21:55 Calinou the new rat is very 0.3-like
21:55 Calinou scary :) and it's not a cute mouse anymore
21:55 john_minetest The sounds and animations are not quite in sync. It becomes pretty obvious in 3rd person view.
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21:55 john_minetest actually foot movement is much faster than sound
21:56 bulletrulz129 xD what are Calinou working on
21:56 bulletrulz129 what is
21:56 zsoltisawesome a gamemode
21:56 zsoltisawesome its quite interesting
21:57 BlockMen john_minetest, lower the animation speed in default/player.lua to ~25 ;)
21:57 bulletrulz129 ahh, whats the diffrences from the normal game modes?
21:57 Jordach BFD just breaks the rules ;)
21:57 john_minetest BlockMen: thx
21:58 BlockMen also not perfect...also the digg anim is a bit strange then.
21:58 zsoltisawesome does anyone do cutting edge windows builds?
21:59 BlockMen zsoltisawesome, [23:49] BlockMen: im providing now 32bit AND 64bit minetest builds for windows: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=139372#p139372 :)
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21:59 Calinou sounds should play faster
21:59 Calinou but this has to be done in C++
21:59 Calinou also, I have no idea how to change mob animation speed :x
21:59 zsoltisawesome BlockMen: Hell ya!
21:59 zsoltisawesome Hello Everyone!
21:59 Calinou I'd like to, but I have to go for now :) night
22:00 BlockMen : night
22:01 Calinou the mobs should be balanced for now at least... did lots of tweaking ;)
22:01 Calinou they are hard to beat, especially in groups
22:01 Calinou some of them start with more health than you can have :P
22:03 bulletrulz129 n64 emulation is so hard to do man
22:04 bulletrulz129 thats the one thing about ubuntu that piises me off
22:05 zsoltisawesome Try Mupen64
22:05 zsoltisawesome worked for me
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22:07 bulletrulz129 mupen 64 or mupen 64 plus?
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22:08 bulletrulz129 zsoltisawesome,
22:08 zsoltisawesome plus
22:09 bulletrulz129 i tiried plus it just piised me of
22:10 zsoltisawesome its hard
22:10 john_minetest Coding deprivation took my motivation to code away from me :(
22:10 zsoltisawesome Linux != easy
22:10 john_minetest Windows!=easy
22:12 zsoltisawesome Difficulty: Linux > Mac > Windows > Android > iOS > Nothing
22:13 BlockMen not for coding^
22:13 zsoltisawesome true
22:13 zsoltisawesome for usability
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22:15 Jordach windows is easy
22:15 Jordach grab something like Python or Lua (or MSVC)
22:17 bulletrulz129 am i the only one who is not getting the server list
22:17 bulletrulz129 nvm im getting it now
22:18 john_minetest Well, difficulty varies.
22:18 john_minetest Linux isn't that easy. But try to do advanced windows stuff...
22:19 john_minetest Like adding some program to autostart.
22:19 bulletrulz129 john_minetest, ,lol
22:19 Jordach add a shortcut to the start meny
22:19 john_minetest How do I do that?
22:19 zsoltisawesome you drag it
22:19 zsoltisawesome XD
22:19 bulletrulz129 you honestly just go to control panel and add it to the list
22:19 Jordach (Start -> Autorun)
22:19 john_minetest O_o
22:19 john_minetest Something like that exists?
22:19 john_minetest I never found it.
22:19 zsoltisawesome *Starpup
22:19 bulletrulz129 windows is easy and most linux distros are easy now adaus
22:20 zsoltisawesome *startup
22:20 Jordach john_minetest, there's a folder called startup*
22:20 Jordach i remember now
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22:20 zsoltisawesome starpup
22:20 zsoltisawesome XD
22:20 bulletrulz129 hey brandon__
22:20 john_minetest I know those things but I never knew that it is for autostart programs.
22:21 john_minetest And then... Finding an application on windows.
22:21 Jordach that search thing the gave you is quite good actually (i often use 8's search button)
22:22 john_minetest When you are looking for "TheAlmightyApp", you won't find it. Because it is in "C:\Program \Files(x86)\BigCorp\taalaunch.exe".
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22:23 Jordach hey jordan4ibanez
22:24 jordan4ibanez Yo
22:24 john_minetest hey jordan4ibanez
22:24 Jordach just spent more time working on my own game
22:25 john_minetest It is much more comfortable when you know that "TheAlmightyApp" is actually called like that and is located in "/usr/bin/TheAlmightyApp"
22:25 jordan4ibanez Working on my own game as well, a game like ricochet xtreme
22:25 Jordach jordan4ibanez, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/p-cXbbk_kBTD.png
22:26 bulletrulz129 hey its jordan4ibanez
22:26 bulletrulz129 havent seen him ina while
22:26 zsoltisawesome Jordach: do you have a job?
22:26 Jordach apparently handling this community counts
22:27 zsoltisawesome lol
22:27 bulletrulz129 he gets paid millons
22:30 john_minetest Yeah
22:30 zsoltisawesome i hushed up the #minecraft channel real good
22:30 zsoltisawesome XD
22:30 john_minetest I am banned from there.
22:30 john_minetest Because I got "minetest" in my nickname registration.
22:30 zsoltisawesome cause of your nick, i assume?
22:30 zsoltisawesome XD
22:31 specing what is #minecraft even doing on freenode, the network for free and open source software?
22:31 zsoltisawesome ikr
22:31 zsoltisawesome thats not the main channel tho
22:33 bulletrulz129 that was rude they quited me
22:34 john_minetest srsly...
22:34 john_minetest Stupid #minecraft, still banned... :/
22:34 bulletrulz129 lol
22:35 john_minetest Just because my cloak says "john_minetest"
22:35 john_minetest (~john@unaffiliated/john-minetest/x-5335115):
22:36 bulletrulz129 wow zsoltisawesome dont even got my back
22:36 bulletrulz129 wtf
22:36 zsoltisawesome lol
22:36 * john_minetest has quit (NOT)
22:36 * john_minetest
22:37 Sockbat Hi folks. Can anyone help me add my firt
22:37 jin_xi just add the firt
22:37 zsoltisawesome your fart?
22:37 Sockbat LOL
22:37 Sockbat Stupid enter key
22:37 bulletrulz129 WTF now that dude is just banning random people
22:37 Sockbat Add a mod to my minetest server
22:38 BlockMen gd night everyone
22:39 zsoltisawesome night!
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22:39 zsoltisawesome /ctcp time Sockbat
22:39 zsoltisawesome oops
22:39 Sockbat ?
22:39 zsoltisawesome /ctcp Sockbat time
22:40 zsoltisawesome bulletrulz129: you live in cali?
22:41 bulletrulz129 zsoltisawesome, yeah
22:41 zsoltisawesome cool
22:41 zsoltisawesome such warm
22:42 zsoltisawesome #whattheduck
22:42 bulletrulz129 lol
22:42 Sockbat Zsoltiawesome I have no idea what you did there but do you think you can help with questions about installing a mod?
22:43 zsoltisawesome #whattheduckfuck
22:43 zsoltisawesome sure
22:43 zsoltisawesome is it a remote server?
22:43 zsoltisawesome or is it like right nxt to you
22:43 Sockbat its here but i have ssh access
22:44 zsoltisawesome ah
22:44 zsoltisawesome ok
22:45 Sockbat I'm looking at node_ownership and I copied it to /.minetest/mods but that didn't work
22:45 zsoltisawesome so you install server mods EXAXTLY like you would client mods
22:45 zsoltisawesome hmm
22:45 zsoltisawesome did you turn it on in the world settings?
22:45 Sockbat The readme tells me this: put init.lua and settings.lua into /minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/node_ownership/
22:45 bulletrulz129 that was funnt
22:45 Sockbat But I don't have those paths
22:46 jordan4ibanez Can I set an objects anchor otf/
22:47 zsoltisawesome Sockbat: you dont?
22:47 Sockbat World settings? is that in minetest.conf?
22:47 zsoltisawesome no
22:47 jordan4ibanez oops wrong irc
22:47 Sockbat No my world is in /home/Sockbat/.minetest/worlds/world/
22:48 Sockbat And I run the server with command: minetest --server
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22:48 zsoltisawesome go to /usr/share/minetest (i believe)
22:50 Sockbat Cool, thanks a lot zsoltiawesome
22:50 Sockbat I see the other mods in there
22:50 zsoltisawesome your welcome!
22:50 zsoltisawesome ya
22:50 Jordach mmmm
22:50 zsoltisawesome those are the core mods
22:50 Sockbat yep
22:51 Jordach Sockbat, areas is a modernised version
22:51 zsoltisawesome today friday?
22:51 Jordach https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas
22:51 bulletrulz129 thay banned me from #Minecraft because of this
22:51 bulletrulz129 http://i.imgur.com/TqfwUew.png
22:52 Sockbat cool thanks Jordach
22:52 zsoltisawesome such smart move
22:53 john_minetest They banned me on #minecraft because I said: "So many people and yet less talk than in #minetest"
22:53 john_minetest It was short time after I got my nich
22:53 john_minetest *nick
22:54 zsoltisawesome lol
22:54 john_minetest Got my nick 1 year, 17 weeks, 6 days, 04:10:51 ago
22:54 zsoltisawesome how did you find that out?
22:54 john_minetest /msg nickserv info
22:54 zsoltisawesome fun
22:55 john_minetest How old is yours?
22:55 zsoltisawesome 1 year, 16 weeks, 2 days, 22:15:11 ago
22:55 zsoltisawesome close to yours
22:55 john_minetest lol
22:55 zsoltisawesome you win by about a week
22:56 zsoltisawesome but!
22:56 john_minetest Minetest people, pretty bright,\ code and code through day and night. <- What an awesome poem.
22:56 john_minetest but!
22:57 john_minetest I write better poems.
22:57 john_minetest :P
22:58 john_minetest Ahhhhrg... My head...
23:00 john_minetest I looked like Harry Potter once... Now all the times I had headache make sense! Lord Voldemort was there all the time!
23:00 john_minetest (As you can see my brain has just shutdown for nightly maintenance. I'll be back tomorrow.)
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23:04 bulletrulz129 PEnal cancer
23:07 zsoltisawesome Read error: Connection reset by beer LOL
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23:09 VanessaE kaeza: https://github.com/VanessaE/​homedecor_modpack/issues/32  thoughts on how best to approach that?
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23:28 bulletrulz ;p;;
23:28 bulletrulz ;
23:28 bulletrulz ;
23:28 bulletrulz ;
23:28 bulletrulz was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
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23:29 bulletrulz fuck you ShadowBot
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23:36 bulletrulz1291 was kicked by Jordach: You should behave, ban might come soon.
23:37 Sockbat Zsoltiawesome?
23:38 Sockbat I extracted the mod into the correct path now, I think, but when i start the server then this happens: 00:22:34: ERROR[main]: Server: Failed to load and run /usr/share/minetest/games/minetes​t_game/mods/areas-master/init.lua 00:22:34: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ModError: Failed to load and run /usr/share/minetest/games/minetes​t_game/mods/areas-master/init.lua
23:40 VanessaE s/areas-master/areas/
23:40 Sockbat oh ok, i'll try that. thanks
23:41 VanessaE rename the mod to "areas".
23:43 twoelk VanessaE: yesterdays server crash seems to have redecorated my mine
23:43 VanessaE sowwy :(
23:44 twoelk The three bottom levels where finished and afterwards random blocks where floating around
23:44 twoelk oh
23:44 twoelk known problem?
23:44 VanessaE the crash was in worldedit
23:44 VanessaE already fixed.
23:44 VanessaE I brought updates in today
23:45 VanessaE they're staged, just need to restart the servers.
23:45 twoelk could that be what was causing the griefed look to several houses?
23:45 VanessaE I don't know
23:46 VanessaE but I suppose it's possible
23:47 twoelk that must have been happening for several weeks now
23:47 * VanessaE updates the engine just to be sure
23:49 VanessaE there.
23:49 VanessaE that's done, and the games and mods are all up-to-date too
23:49 Sockbat Many thanks VanessaE!!
23:51 * twoelk ,instead of going to bed as he should ... fires up minetest to have a peek
23:51 VanessaE there, I deployed the updates to five of the six servers.
23:51 lordcirth Any default:dirt should grow to default:dirt_with_grass if there is a torch on either side, right?
23:52 VanessaE only Vanilla is left because it's too busy to restart right now.
23:52 VanessaE lordcirth: yeah
23:52 VanessaE eventually
23:52 lordcirth VanessaE, it's been about 30m already.  bad luck I guess
23:52 VanessaE it takes longer than that
23:52 VanessaE it can take a couple of hours sometimes
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