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00:01 Sokomine how about a playername with a blank?
00:02 khonkhortisan that seems to work
00:10 harrison "If things are to alter during the next fifty years then we must re-embrace Byron’s ideal: the cultured thug.” - Jonathan Bowden, 1962-2012
00:21 khonkhortisan A sphere with a radius of 1 has a diameter of three. Voxel math is cool.
00:22 khonkhortisan 0.5 is added to the radius to account for half of the center node
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00:49 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix macro ARRAYSIZE name collision on windows fec1fa51e0 2014-04-20T02:47:02+02:00 http://git.io/bsPPyw
00:57 khonkhortisan What's a simple way to subtract from a positive number, or add to a negative number?
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00:59 khonkhortisan eh, I already have the sign, I'll just do length-1*sign
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02:31 paramat hi hmmmm, discussion on my method of 'harmonic noise' starting here https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=138499#p138499 is this commonly used in mapgen?
02:32 hmmmm when you say "gridlike" are you specifically referring to 3d noise?
02:34 hmmmm that "harmonic noise" you speak of is used in several mapgens with the terrain base and terrain higher noises, but the spread factors have no special properties to them
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02:50 paramat yeah 3D noise i guess because thats what i always use
02:51 hmmmm that's caused by a deficiency within the noise algorithm itself
02:51 hmmmm it's on the list of things to do
02:51 hmmmm 3d noise was eased at some point early on, but that was removed for speed.  to maintain compatibility i did not change it back when i optimized it
02:58 paramat ah yes eased noise, i read up on that, although i suspect characteristic wavelength would still be there with it
02:58 paramat i need to make more screenshots, the results are amazingly organic
03:00 hmmmm when you ease the noise, the values resulting are typically of less magnitude than otherwise, so you need to readjust all of your noise threshholds
03:00 paramat my method uses 2 noises identical apart from spread and seed, very different from switching between terrain_base and terrain_higher
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03:10 paramat good luck with overgeneration, i added lua vertical overgeneration to watershed mod, turned out to be easy with the LVM
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03:35 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix safe region functionality (thanks ChaosWormz). https://gi 2014-04-19T23:33:20-04:00 http://git.io/HtcavA
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04:19 hmmmm paramat:  i am not too concerned with overgeneration, it should be technically easy
04:19 hmmmm it's just that i haven't been working on minetest at all lately
04:19 hmmmm so I'm getting this done first http://pastebin.com/Wr746mMr
04:20 hmmmm gonna test it with the mapgen tester
04:20 hmmmm then plop it into minetest after everything's all working right
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07:08 khonkhortisan /spiral has me going in circles trying to find a bounding box
07:08 khonkhortisan double slash on that
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07:46 Krock moin
07:57 Krock HAPPY EASTER EVERYBODY!
07:57 CraigyDavi Happy easter!
07:57 * PenguinDad throws an egg at Krock
07:58 * Krock opens mouth
08:04 * us`0gb begins searching Minetest's code for Easter eggs
08:05 us`0gb grep secret src/*
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08:14 Krock Ugh..how do I revoke the privileges of someone with server privs?
08:14 sfan5 /revoke <person> <priv>
08:14 sfan5 meow
08:14 sfan5 hi everyone & happy easter
08:14 CraigyDavi hi
08:14 Krock I tried it and it doesn't change anythinginth e player'sprivs :/
08:14 Krock hi sfan5 btw lol
08:14 CraigyDavi try /revoke player all
08:15 Krock agh typos
08:15 CraigyDavi and then grant the prvs again
08:15 Krock CraigyDavi, already tried...failed
08:15 CraigyDavi Is it only a problem with that player?
08:16 Krock generally, when I play >on< the server, it grants the player all privs
08:16 Krock (server & client at the same pc --^)
08:16 CraigyDavi Wierd. Have a look at the auth.txt.
08:16 PenguinDad Krock: check if name in the minetest.conf is that players name
08:17 Krock PenguinDad, hmm it is because it shares the same minetest.conf
08:18 Krock CraigyDavi, the auth.txt shows the same as I see with /privs <player>
08:18 CraigyDavi Try removing the privs there?
08:18 Krock CraigyDavi, but how did the player get those privs?
08:19 Krock I won't change it everytime after i played on the client
08:20 CraigyDavi Either it was somehow put in the minetest.config. Some sort of bug. Or someone with privs prilages game them it.
08:20 Krock well, at least I detected this before someone got the dummy account and abused it
08:21 Krock CraigyDavi, the player_name or whatever is in the minetest.conf cuz they use the same file
08:22 CraigyDavi Oh. Well then maybe remove it from there?
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08:34 markveidemanis Hi
08:34 Krock whatever - I hope to get a mapper for this leveldb soon, the old map is just >a little< outdated
08:34 Krock hi markveidemanis
08:35 markveidemanis Hi Krocky
08:37 markveidemansy aww
08:37 Krocky happy easter, markveidemansy
08:37 markveidemansy ...
08:37 markveidemansy Is it easter?
08:38 * markveidemansy visits google page
08:38 markveidemansy Happy easter!
08:38 Krocky ...
08:39 markveidemansy Celebrate by registering on mktk.tk
08:39 Krocky why not tktk.tk?
08:39 markveidemansy plaintext
08:39 markveidemansy all my domains must start withy the first letter of my forst name
08:39 markveidemansy *firsat
08:40 markveidemansy *first
08:40 PenguinDaddy markveidemansy: you can't write today ;)
08:40 * markveidemansy is off
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08:46 PenguinDaddy I just noticed that Krocky has the same color as sfan5 in my client :D
08:47 Krocky we also have the same real name btw
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08:59 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix chat console not working anymore 5b1bd2fb47 2014-04-20T10:55:08+02:00 http://git.io/FOtbAA
09:00 CraigyDavi Wow I was just making a thread in bugs and probelems. ^
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09:11 CWz i got this error when starting my server11:23:20: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: too many items
09:11 CWz
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09:13 CraigyDavi Maybe try a /clearobjects?
09:13 CWz i can't it won't start
09:13 CraigyDavi Oh
09:14 CWz that means the map must have gone currepted?
09:15 CraigyDavi Not sure, possibly. Do you have a recent backup?
09:15 PenguinDaddy CWz: this looks like some player inventory is corrupted
09:16 CWz probably shouldn't have messed with the player files
09:16 CraigyDavi Try moving all player files out of worlds/world/players and try run the server then
09:16 CraigyDavi I had the same problem. You will have to either revert to a old backup or remove the player files.
09:17 CWz ok i managed too locate and removed the offending player file
09:18 CraigyDavi Does it work now?
09:18 CWz yes
09:18 CWz Thanks
09:19 CraigyDavi Good. I was not so lucky, all the player files became corrupted. Keep regular backups :)
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09:23 Krocky CWz, does it force delete those objects?
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09:24 CWz the problom was with a player file
09:24 Krocky ah ok
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09:26 PenguinDaddy Too many items isn't a mod it's a bug xD
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09:28 Krocky omg
09:29 * Krocky made an auto tree planter
09:29 CWz now that the forum uses  phpBB  it should cutdown on the spambots
09:30 PenguinDaddy Not really
09:30 CraigyDavi There was hardly any spam bots
09:33 Krocky https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/622a9fe83694a71e5f5d
09:33 CWz yeah because i reported the spam bots
09:47 Krocky crazyR, I started programming on a GUI for player_notes, well I'm not very good in formspecs and kida lazy these days. If you like, I can send you my progress so far
09:47 Krocky *kinda
09:48 crazyR yeah sure. im still learning formspecs my self. i have a habbit of giving up with formspecs lol
09:50 Krocky crazyR, trying to send it over DCC..to test if it works lol
09:50 * PenguinDaddy is working on a very simple MGv7 game
09:51 Krocky PenguinDaddy, plzplz start with a chocolate binome
09:52 crazyR Krocky, that more than likly my internet connection, im relying on my mobile as a modem tiill wensday
09:52 Krocky 0.o
09:52 crazyR huh when did you change your name to krocky
09:52 Krocky today.
09:52 Krocky hahaha
09:53 Krocky PenguinDaddy did it to :)
09:56 PenguinDaddy Krocky: there will be a nyan cat biome but no chocolate biome
09:56 Krocky oh :(
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10:10 PenguinDad my 3G connection just died >:O
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10:14 CWz krock: I tried your treeplanter mod. i like it
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10:19 Mikerhinos hi
10:20 CraigyDavi hi
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10:21 rdococ KROCK is here?
10:21 rdococ In your server id like to establish an exchange shop. Can you give me one of them exchange shop blocks please?
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10:28 rdococ ...
10:28 rdococ Ido
10:38 Krocky rdococ, type in "Kro" and press tab..
10:41 rdococ I'm on a phone so I can't, duh
10:41 rdococ Aka I'm using my ipad to chat. but my PC to play minetest
10:42 rdococ I don't see a tab button anywhere
10:42 rdococ If anything it should be automatic
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10:42 markveidemanis Hi
10:44 markveidemanis What Password hashing should I use?
10:46 PenguinDad are humidity_point and heat_point in minetest.register_biome valid after weather was removed?
10:47 markveidemanis well
10:47 markveidemanis I am quitting the forum
10:48 CWz Why are you quiting the forum?
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10:49 CraigyDavi PenguinDad: minetest.register_biome still works. not sure about the others
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11:06 Jordach hell: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/fqvBgpZmOmWE.png
11:07 CraigyDavi Argg I hate java updates
11:08 CraigyDavi I remember when there was a bug, you clicked it to install the update and then it said "you already have the latest version of lava"
11:08 CraigyDavi Then why do i need an update if I already have the latest versions. argg
11:10 CWz Java was trolling you
11:11 CraigyDavi java trolls everyone.
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11:17 PenguinDad what happened http://sprunge.us/MWBB
11:18 * Jordach did a slight profile change on the forums
11:22 Jordach !tw https://twitter.com/frankiebo​yle/status/457828524448309249
11:22 MinetestBot All the Christian festivals revolve around chocolate and presents. Almost as if they're trying to lure kids in for some reason. (@frankieboyle)
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11:54 rdococ Yay religious
11:54 rdococ I hate Christianity
11:55 rdococ I don't do Easter but I do the spring solstice
12:03 crazyR_ isthere a reason why the world data is stored in sqlite but player data isnt?
12:03 markveidemanis to simply be able to remove it
12:04 markveidemanis things from the table of imventories*
12:04 markveidemanis Imagine someone got an admin pick
12:05 markveidemanis You're not gonna make a query to the database, you're gonna take it from them and ban their ass
12:05 crazyR_ but removing data from sqlite db is as easy if not easier to remove than if it were in text files. especially if we had a api that allowed mods to add and remove data. also searching for player info would be easier as it would be all in one file as apposed to being in lots of files
12:05 crazyR_ im not just on about inventry info i mean as a whole
12:06 crazyR_ commands to look for old players and delete them would be much easier
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12:07 markveidemanis Mods are free to start another database and use it between them
12:07 markveidemanis I think you can in lua, idk
12:08 crazyR_ thats not what im talking about... im planning an doing it for my server. but i would have thought it would have been a core part of minetest. doesnt seem normal to save 1000's of players data in plain text files
12:09 CraigyDavi The annoying thing is that minetest stores all the player files up at the same time as RAM.
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12:10 markveidemanis Hi CraigyDavi!
12:10 CraigyDavi It lags a lot when you have thousands of player files. Even if not used. I think the player files need to be completly redesigned.
12:10 CraigyDavi Hello markveidemanis
12:10 CWz is there a mod that allows a player with privs to turn invisible?
12:10 markveidemanis Could you test mktk.tk
12:11 CraigyDavi Yes there is a mod for that. I'll try find it.
12:12 CraigyDavi I can get onto that website, yes. Do i need to do anything else?
12:12 crazyR_ does anyone know where in the minetest source that player data is handled
12:12 crazyR_ misc?
12:12 crazyR_ nope
12:13 markveidemanis Try to register then login, then to the panel
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12:14 CraigyDavi yep done. it works
12:15 CraigyDavi Be back in a min
12:16 PenguinDad This is the Progress with my MGv7 game https://mediacru.sh/Y-BVf9qnuurf
12:17 markveidemanis CraigyDavi, Could you try to login once more?
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12:21 iqualfragile PenguinDad: looks ok
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12:33 CraigyDavi markveidemanis: I have logged in again. No problems encountered
12:33 markveidemanis Good
12:34 markveidemanis COuld you try and break it?
12:34 CraigyDavi How?
12:34 markveidemanis try invalid stuff
12:34 crazyR anyone got any ideas for a texture for an alertbox, basically its a mesecon based node that when received a signal. sends a pm to the  owner with a pre-defined message that can be set by rightclicking it.
12:34 markveidemanis try some SQL
12:35 markveidemanis like DROP TABLE users
12:35 CraigyDavi Urmm
12:35 CraigyDavi Okay
12:35 markveidemanis Do you like the fact it tells you if your username or password is wrong?
12:35 Jordach users auth and other stuff aren't stored in the world files
12:35 Jordach rollback even has its own db
12:37 CraigyDavi Yes thats a nice feature, markveidemanis.
12:37 markveidemanis What would be missing?
12:38 CraigyDavi Ah thats why deleting the rollback file did pretty much nothing. Is there a feature to restart the rollback log?
12:38 Jordach usually binning it just works
12:39 CraigyDavi Looks fine. Not sure what would be missing though.
12:39 CraigyDavi Okay ill try that
12:39 CraigyDavi But you know that a .tk domain will not last very long :)
12:40 CraigyDavi Unless you are a pro user
12:40 Jordach actually
12:40 Jordach having something other than the default webpage in apache will keep it for a year
12:40 Jordach (or nginx, or lighttpd)
12:41 CraigyDavi Fair enough. Well it is a very short domain. They usually don't last long.
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12:50 markveidemanis I can renew the domain as much as I want
12:50 markveidemanis also
12:50 markveidemanis http://markveidemanis.insomnia247.nl/
12:51 CraigyDavi Ok
12:58 markveidemanis Does anyone do javascript?
12:58 markveidemanis or jwuery/ajax
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13:00 rubenwardy Hi all!
13:01 crazyR hi
13:03 crazyR whats the correct way to get a nodeowners name?
13:06 rubenwardy You will have to add support for node protection mods one by one; there is no standardised way
13:07 crazyR by owner i mean the player who placed it
13:10 rubenwardy You would need to use the global place node call back, and add the user's name to the meta
13:10 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1257
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13:12 markveidemanis Hi RagnarLaud
13:12 crazyR thanks
13:13 markveidemanis <RagnarLaud> in +q, i cant talk :D
13:13 rubenwardy "Mark forums read" is the feature I have been missing in punbb. No longer do I have to log in and out again.
13:36 harrison 01,09memehopper
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13:54 rubenwardy Cheery today!
13:55 * rubenwardy slaps rubenwardy
14:04 * Jordach opens the massive bar of Dairy Milk
14:04 Jordach Today's Agenda: TF2 + Dairy Milk
14:42 rubenwardy Woo hoo!
14:42 rubenwardy Some one is online!
14:42 * rubenwardy puts a kitten on Jordach's head
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14:45 rubenwardy Computing coursework is making me feel brain dead
14:47 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
14:47 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
14:52 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap
14:52 Jordach yes
14:52 sfan5 meow
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15:35 hoodedice I like the 'Occupation' field in the forums
15:36 CraigyDavi Me too. I'm trying to think of something funny to put as the occupation.
15:36 hoodedice I put in 'Support'
15:37 sfan5 <celeron55> i'm waiting for two hours for a valid reason that is bigger than the trouble that this causes and if that doesn't appear, xyz shall switch back
15:38 hoodedice How about I put 'community troll'
15:38 CraigyDavi What's that about, sfan5?
15:38 CraigyDavi Sounds good to me
15:38 hoodedice or 'community leader'
15:38 sfan5 CraigyDavi: <celeron55> it doesn't even provide the feature that was mostly missed from punbb
15:38 sfan5 this is why we wanted to switch
15:38 sfan5 but now we don't have any new features
15:38 hoodedice It means we might switch back
15:38 CraigyDavi :D
15:38 sfan5 and I think the UI is very complicated
15:39 * hoodedice agrees.
15:39 CraigyDavi Indeed. Punbb is simple and affective.
15:39 hoodedice *effective
15:40 CraigyDavi The only new features are the stupid friend and foe stuff. We did not need that.
15:40 hoodedice The occupation field?
15:40 sfan5 exactly
15:40 CraigyDavi Well you can easily ad fields on punbb
15:41 hoodedice Allow users to add custom fields
15:41 hoodedice XD
15:41 sfan5 lol
15:47 CraigyDavi In my opinion...we should get the old forums back, update punbb version to 1.4 and add extensions which would add some of the "lacking...features"
15:49 CraigyDavi There is so much more work to be done on the new forums to get it up to scratch...for example in punbb there was [colour] and [color] tags. Only the "color" tags have been converted.
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16:20 EvergreenTree Happy easter everyone!
16:20 CraigyDavi Happy easter
16:20 markveidemanis Happy easter, EvergreenTree
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16:26 * Jordach hands NekoGloop a chocolate fishy
16:26 * NekoGloop nom
16:27 * Krocky hellos
16:27 CraigyDavi Hello Krocky Wocky
16:27 CraigyDavi lol
16:27 Jordach i have a pack of 6 cadbury creme eggs
16:28 Krocky Tip of the day: Re-heat eggs in a microwave for 2 minutes.
16:28 Krocky Impossble. After 1.5min it does like
16:28 Krocky BOOOOM
16:28 CraigyDavi Easter eggs or normal eggs?
16:29 Krocky real eggs, not chocolate
16:29 Krocky no matter of already cooked or ot
16:29 Krocky *not
16:42 * sfan5 meows at Krocky
16:47 * Krocky meows at the kitten
16:47 * sfan5 flips Krocky
16:48 Krocky sfan5, liek dis? https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/622a9fe83694a71e5f5d
16:49 sfan5 wt
16:49 sfan5 wat*
16:49 * NekoGloop flops on sfan5
16:49 * sfan5 noms NekoGloop
16:49 Krocky flipflops
16:49 Krocky FLOPS.. floating point operations per second
16:49 markveidemanis ...
16:50 markveidemanis CRINGE
16:53 * rubenwardy slaps Krocky
16:54 * Krocky thros FLOPS at rubenwardy
16:54 Krocky *throws
17:11 * PenguinDad hugs the creator of Mgv7
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18:01 JackGruff why are the forums still bust?
18:03 CraigyDavi What do you mean by "bust"?
18:05 JackGruff https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41236265/Sc​reenshot%20from%202014-04-20%2020%3A04%3A23.png
18:05 Sokomine is there a way to get a higher message limit on the forum? "Folder is 328% full (164 from 50 messages stored)" does not sound very satisfying!
18:05 JackGruff formatting is messed up
18:05 EvergreenTree Yeah
18:05 EvergreenTree that needs to be fixec
18:05 EvergreenTree *fixed
18:05 Sokomine ...especially considering that i already had to delete quite a lot of messages just to be able to send (on the old forum)
18:06 CraigyDavi That has been fixed...
18:06 JackGruff hmm
18:06 CraigyDavi I don't think you can recieve messages untill you have below 50 Sokomine.
18:06 CraigyDavi JackGruff: Try clearing forum cookies.
18:07 CraigyDavi here: https://forum.minetest.net/​ucp.php?mode=delete_cookies
18:07 JackGruff cool. working now. thanks.
18:08 CraigyDavi It's probably going to go back to the old forum soon anyway...
18:09 Sokomine craigydavi: hmmm. no chance :-( perhaps if i could download them all?
18:09 Sokomine we all need some time to adjust to the new forum i guess. give the people some time
18:10 CraigyDavi yes you can download them in 3 formats. there should be a option at the bottom. Or just wait a few days till the old forums comes back or we get an allowance of more messages in inbox.
18:10 Sokomine ah. that problem with threads not beeing found under their old link has been fixed. fine!
18:10 Sokomine now i can find mods again :-)
18:11 Sokomine an allowance for more messages would be best :-)
18:11 Sokomine for a start, 500 might do :)
18:11 CraigyDavi Yes. Although player profile links don't work and many other things too.
18:11 markveidemanis The new forum is shit
18:11 EvergreenTree markveidemanis: give it time
18:11 EvergreenTree it's still WIP
18:12 CraigyDavi It's not gonna last long. c55 hates the new forum: http://irc.minetest.ru/minet​est-dev/2014-04-20#i_3658899
18:12 Sokomine player profiles are usually less of a problem. not beeing able to find mods by their old link was bad - some are so well hidden deep inside one of the forum section that there'd have been quite a lot of time needed to locate them again
18:13 Sokomine i'm very glad that has been solved :-)
18:13 Sokomine a higher message count for the inbox ought to be nothing fancy...just increase the number :-)
18:13 * Krocky is about to release a GUI for player_notes
18:13 CraigyDavi Indeed.
18:13 CraigyDavi Nice!
18:15 CraigyDavi I still don't understand how the lead developer of the game and two of the forum moderators and quite a large amount of the community hate the new forum...and yet it still goes ahead...
18:16 EvergreenTree CraigyDavi: that happens a lot
18:16 PenguinDad CraigyDavi: bbb-but I don't hate it :(
18:16 EvergreenTree PenguinDad: I don't hate it either
18:16 EvergreenTree There is always backlash on major changes
18:16 EvergreenTree people just don't like change
18:16 EvergreenTree It will take some getting used to
18:17 CraigyDavi I guess so...but at the end of the day its the whole community using using the forum. The whole community should have got the chance to have thier say in this!
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18:18 CraigyDavi Yes its a change...but a change for better? or for worse?
18:19 EvergreenTree some worse, some better
18:19 EvergreenTree It's not the end of the worl
18:19 EvergreenTree Although, it is rather annoying to have to replace all my mod topic rss feeds
18:19 EvergreenTree :P
18:19 Jordach this game is amazing sauce
18:19 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qPHtYxxm_8Pw.png
18:20 CraigyDavi What's for the better then?
18:20 EvergreenTree The appearance is better imo
18:20 EvergreenTree it matches minetest.net
18:21 EvergreenTree also, it uses a more up-to-date forum software (don't kill me if that's the wrong term)
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18:22 CraigyDavi A new background and new colours...could easily be done on old forum...you have a point there, but its still functional and has all the features it needs imo.
18:22 EvergreenTree mhm
18:22 EvergreenTree I really do prefer the old one
18:22 PenguinDad Jordach: how's that game called?
18:22 EvergreenTree it just needed a new skin
18:22 EvergreenTree PenguinDad: Retro City Rampage
18:22 Jordach PenguinDad, Retro City Rampage
18:22 EvergreenTree (I think)
18:22 Jordach THOSE FUCKING NINJA'S
18:22 EvergreenTree ninja'd
18:23 PenguinDad ninja daemon :D
18:24 Jordach there's even Duck Tales references https://cdn.mediacru.sh/-iq1zVEOoJK-.png
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18:28 EvergreenTree Hi PilzAdam
18:28 EvergreenTree How goes things?
18:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
18:29 CraigyDavi Hi
18:29 PilzAdam I'm finally back on windows
18:29 PilzAdam *Linux
18:29 EvergreenTree Hello!
18:29 EvergreenTree How goes things?
18:29 EvergreenTree well, that was short lived
18:29 EvergreenTree :P
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18:30 PilzAdam wow, quassel has a really big disconnect button
18:32 PenguinDad I really like these unsolveable "Are a human" tests >:(
18:34 CraigyDavi You mean captchas?
18:34 Krocky crazyR: Message from the subscriber: Finnished the GUI
18:35 crazyR :D il test it out as soon as i finish my hackjob
18:36 PenguinDad Carrot Underground Book Igloo Egg. spell first the letters in uppercase:
18:37 Krocky CUBIE
18:37 PenguinDad ^ everything I wrote to that was wrong
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18:38 Krocky or... CARROT UND...
18:38 PenguinDad Krocky: I did that but it said that was wrong
18:38 Krocky depends how much "first letters" are
18:38 Krocky just write the whole thing in caps
18:39 PenguinDad now I get something easier: "Tom Cruise is male or female?"
18:39 Krocky hmm maybe something between
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18:40 Krocky holy holy..1st time at rank #1 of server list since february
18:41 CraigyDavi Congrats!
18:41 Krocky thx..that success wasn't for long duration
18:41 * Krocky looks suprised at max_lag=2.4
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18:42 CraigyDavi I got max_lag=1.8
18:43 CraigyDavi But mobile users in the evening cause it to get up to 3.0 :(
18:43 Krocky set the timeout to 1s and you've got rid of that problem
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18:44 CraigyDavi How do you do that?
18:46 Krocky I don't know - was a stupid idea anyway
18:47 CraigyDavi Oh
18:47 CraigyDavi Is this a bug?: http://i.imgur.com/PcVbnv5.png
18:48 Krocky yes
18:48 Krocky he should be called "Hugo"
18:48 CraigyDavi lol I mean when it says he joined the game twice
18:49 Krocky not enough bug to care about
18:49 CraigyDavi Meh
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19:00 markveidemanis CraigyDavi, The first is initiating the connection , triggering the player join function, so his name can be checked, guests kicked, etc
19:03 CraigyDavi Ah okay. So its meant to be like that then.
19:05 CraigyDavi I have also noticed that when you join the server it does not show your name in the clients...yet when you use /status it shows your name. Is this meant to be?
19:05 Krocky lol how to forget your own name?
19:06 CraigyDavi Huh? That's not the point.
19:07 Krocky What else?
19:07 CraigyDavi Well the fact that it should show all connected clients, right? Not missing out your own name.
19:09 Krocky the status message gets sent before the player is fully inited, causes a missing player. yourself
19:09 CraigyDavi So It's a new feature then? it was not like that before/
19:09 Krocky maybe.
19:10 CraigyDavi ok
19:11 Krocky CraigyDavi, just something I wrote today. maybe you're interested. https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/622a9fe83694a71e5f5d
19:12 Jordach Krocky, um
19:12 Krocky (Description = add default trees to an empty grassland)
19:12 Jordach seems to appear only on windows, can comfirm that much
19:13 CraigyDavi Interesting...so when you use the command it regenerates all the trees in the world?
19:13 Krocky ugh never!
19:13 Krocky just in a 64*32*64 range
19:13 Krocky extend it if needed
19:13 CraigyDavi Nice. Would come in handy
19:14 Krocky I had this idea cuz some newbies just don't know how to use trees
19:14 Krocky resulted in 10 min' ofcoding
19:14 CraigyDavi Yeh they don't replant saplings
19:14 Jordach BAH
19:14 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LHWscLKs8G0P.png
19:14 Jordach every fucking time
19:15 Krocky Jordach, check all minetest.* functions and their arguments
19:15 Krocky I know that bug
19:15 Jordach Krocky, exit to menu, then start again
19:16 Krocky and that solves it?
19:16 Jordach it causes that crash
19:16 Krocky <Krocky>Jordach, check all minetest.* functions and their arguments
19:16 Krocky that's how to fix
19:17 Krocky else, use print("random-msg 1") to check every step
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19:19 Krocky wut? memory leaks or why my server just crashed for no reason?
19:20 CraigyDavi Low ram or cpu or something
19:21 Krocky shouldn't happen with 2GB ram and 2x2 GHz CPU
19:21 CraigyDavi It happens to me and I have 6GB or Ram
19:21 CraigyDavi *of
19:21 Krocky sapier! fix it
19:22 CraigyDavi Did it come up with "not reponding" or did it just close
19:22 Krocky just closed and the "goto start" looped it fine
19:22 CraigyDavi Ok
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19:23 Jordach CraigyDavi, 8GB of ram, AMD A10 6800K (@4.1GHZ)
19:23 PenguinDad Krocky: why not hmmmm or kahrl ;)
19:23 Jordach seriously doubt it's going to run out of ram
19:23 CraigyDavi Ok
19:23 Jordach but there are some new ores for BFD
19:23 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/FETp5adR67xz.png
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19:24 CraigyDavi Cool
19:25 Jordach ores that would be impossible to get via normal MTG is in the crust layer
19:26 Jordach good. luck. getting to the mese layer ;) (it's an insane depth)
19:26 Krocky Jordach, what do you mean by "crust layer" at 10 until -10m?
19:27 CraigyDavi I was thinking of creating a minetest game called "simple" it would just be a basic version of minetest_game using the simplepixels texture pack. I will add and remove a few stuff too. Does this sound good?
19:27 Jordach Krocky, MTG style world goes down to -4096, and crust begins at -4097 -> -16384 then mese stone begins at -16385 -> ?
19:28 Krocky ok
19:28 CraigyDavi A good game for people new to minetest.
19:28 * markveidemanis has just added some jancy ajax to his login page
19:28 * markveidemanis says it is mktk.tk
19:29 CraigyDavi I can't login to it anymore, markveidemanis.
19:29 * markveidemanis has deleted all the users
19:30 CraigyDavi Ok
19:33 markveidemanis CraigyDavi, Try registering
19:34 markveidemanis see the widget?
19:34 CraigyDavi yeah looks great
19:35 * Krocky tested the tree generator and created 140 at once within 3 seconds
19:35 markveidemanis thanks
19:35 markveidemanis Works without JS too
19:36 markveidemanis Hmm
19:36 markveidemanis I should add password changing
19:36 CraigyDavi Would be good
19:36 Jordach :( (three days until i'm somewhat unable to develop BFD)
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19:37 CraigyDavi Does SimpleTest sound like a good name for a minetest game?
19:39 Krocky sounds too simple but acceptable
19:39 markveidemanis Simpletest looks better
19:40 CraigyDavi Ok I think ill get to work on it soon. I need to do a few more textures for the SimplePixels texture pack as it will be used by the game.
19:44 PilzAdam markveidemanis, :-/ why wont you stop spamming this channel with your site
19:46 Jordach bleep bloop bleep
19:46 Jordach seriously, spam somewhere else, or we'll (i'll) have to treat you as a spammer yourself
19:47 Krocky plz me op too plz
19:47 Jordach nah
19:47 PilzAdam :3
19:47 Krocky uh. never believed in that
19:47 Jordach ;3
19:48 PilzAdam Krocky, now kick me
19:48 Krocky ok, sir!
19:48 PilzAdam was kicked by Krocky: trololo
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19:48 * Krocky feels da op-power
19:49 PilzAdam !op
19:49 PilzAdam !deop Krocky
19:50 crazyR can someone please have alook at this and help work out why on_receive_fields doesnt seem to be working well: https://github.com/crazyR14/mesecons_alertblock
19:51 * Krocky throws a look on it
19:52 PilzAdam crazyR, what doesnt seem to work?
19:52 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix #155 (option 2 used). Remove non-ActionQueue system. Enable overheat for more than 20 actions per second on lua- / microcontrollers and gates. 300abcb587 2014-04-20T21:51:17+02:00 http://git.io/dmTBlg
19:52 * Krocky can't see any fail
19:53 Krocky why not set a formspec, so you can right click on it
19:53 PilzAdam crazyR, check  if fields.alertmsg ~= nil
19:54 PilzAdam otherwise it will set the metadatafield to nil when e.g. closing the formspec or pressing a different button
19:55 crazyR ive that. infact i did if fields.alertmsg ~= nil [do stuff here] else print("test field: "..fields.alertmsg) end
19:55 crazyR to see what the console printed and go nothing back
19:58 crazyR just put a print into the on_receive_fields function, with no other code, and it didnt print anything, its as if the on_receive_fields isnt being called
19:58 Krocky print(dump(fields))
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20:04 crazyR Krocky: done that no output
20:05 Krocky crazyR, now use meta string "formspec" for thee formspec and try again
20:06 crazyR krocky: ?? what do you mean
20:06 PilzAdam searching for "[Mod]" in the forum has 7 matches..... well dont phpbb
20:07 PilzAdam ^ ShadowNinja
20:07 PilzAdam *done
20:07 Krocky meta:set_string("formspec", "yourformspechere")
20:07 Krocky in after_place_node
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20:09 crazyR and remove minetest.show_formspec ?
20:11 crazyR formspec doesnt show when i do that krocky
20:24 CraigyDavi Is there any news in regards to the forum? Is it staying on phpbb or punbb?
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20:27 crazyR this is driving me mad. what would cause the on_receive_fields function not to work when registering a node
20:31 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, is there som way to escape [ and ] in urls?
20:31 PilzAdam I want this link in my signature: https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?author=P​ilzAdam&amp;sf=firstpost&amp;sr=topics&amp;fid[]=11
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20:49 zsoltisawesome markveidemanis!
20:49 markveidemanis zsoltisawesome!
20:51 EvergreenTree Someone!
20:51 EvergreenTree oh wait....
20:51 PilzAdam EvergreenTree!
20:51 EvergreenTree MinetestBot!
20:51 MinetestBot EvergreenTree!
20:51 EvergreenTree :3
20:52 crazyR if i grab the fields externally via minetest.register_on_player_re​ceive_fields(function(player, "formname", {fields})) how would i get the node position
20:52 crazyR on the built in version it provides the pos for us
20:52 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot
20:52 MinetestBot <3 PenguinDad
20:55 PilzAdam MinetestBot!
20:55 MinetestBot PilzAdam!
20:57 EvergreenTree Pilzadam!
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20:58 PenguinDad GhostDoge!
21:02 TreeDoge buehehehe
21:03 crazyR in the formspec is there any such thing as a hidden field
21:20 * VanessaE_ throws one Doge at EvergreenTree
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21:21 * PenguinDad catches the Doge
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21:39 Jordach VanessaE_, i have 10,000 doge
21:40 VanessaE_ I have about 3500, plus 2.23 peercoin.
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21:40 VanessaE_ actively mining the former via these PCs since my house needs the heat :)
21:43 VanessaE_ not exactly a fortune eh? :)
21:48 iqualfragile the perlin is strong with this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwFVlNytq0Q
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23:59 PilzAdam cant someone say something?! I'm testing a new client here
23:59 Jordach yes
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