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Time Nick Message
00:01 Zeno` ah, that'd be it then :)
00:01 VanessaE_ yup
00:01 Zeno` took me 3 days to carve it, lol
00:01 VanessaE_ if he tried to exceed a 100m high region, regardless of where the endpoints are, it'll reject it
00:02 Zeno` yeah it's probably 100 high and maybe 40 wide
00:02 Zeno` I'll think of something
00:03 Zeno` thanks again
00:10 Jordach ARE YOU KIDDING ME
00:10 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/V10wNfDd31I2.png
00:10 Jordach BloodPressure++;
00:13 VanessaE_ what's wrong with a bit of snow?
00:13 Jordach ARRGH
00:13 VanessaE_ or is it that little finger of ...something else on the side?
00:13 Jordach min_height = 60
00:13 VanessaE_ oh.
00:13 Jordach FUUUUUU
00:16 Zeno` snow keeps falling on my house as well
00:16 Zeno` http://i.imgur.com/h7pD65p.jpg
00:16 Zeno` I just cleared it off though
00:16 VanessaE_ that's rain.
00:16 VanessaE_ also, \o/ HDX
00:16 Zeno` well, there was snow all over him... i cleared it off ;)
00:16 Zeno` yep, HDX!
00:17 Zeno` I think 64px. Another thanks for that
00:17 VanessaE_ glad you like it
00:17 Zeno` it's a pretty amazing difference
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00:31 floriel hi there
00:31 PilzAdam helloooo
00:33 floriel I'm trying to set up eclipse and koneki to debug lua in minetest...and failing
00:34 floriel does anybody know how to do it in linux?
00:35 PilzAdam sapier is the only one who uses it AFAIK
00:36 floriel well, let's try nail down my error
00:37 PilzAdam do you really need it?
00:37 floriel not if you know another way to debug lua
00:37 PilzAdam print()
00:37 floriel ;-)
00:38 PilzAdam its all I neede
00:38 PilzAdam +d
00:38 floriel a less masorchistic one
00:38 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/We7FtiTvsonj.png
00:38 PilzAdam what kind of mod do you want to create?
00:38 * Jordach wins the award for masochism with minetest
00:39 floriel for starters i want to debug some existing ones
00:39 PilzAdam and which ones?
00:39 floriel finding out, why unfied direktory doesn't recognise wood, ...
00:39 floriel inventory, not directory
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00:40 hoodedice Jordach:
00:40 VanessaE_ maybe because it's probably being called up as group:wood
00:40 Jordach yes
00:40 hoodedice I suddest you make more of those new models
00:40 Jordach new models
00:40 * Jordach rolls head
00:40 hoodedice In fact, I ORDER you to make more of those new models
00:40 hoodedice The new female model in your custom game
00:40 Jordach flash me dogencoin then bitch
00:41 hoodedice I'm fucking broke myself, jerk
00:41 hoodedice #college
00:41 * VanessaE_ mines dogecoin.  gimme.
00:41 hoodedice VanessaE_ was right
00:41 Jordach hoodedice, http://www.rigsofrods.com/attachment.ph​p?attachmentid=438986&d=1383349258
00:41 hoodedice 'Murica is economically poor
00:41 hoodedice *cough*
00:42 hoodedice RoR?! oh, ok.
00:42 Jordach it's an image
00:42 Jordach goddammit
00:42 hoodedice saw it.
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00:42 Jordach ^ <3 quassel
00:42 Zeno` I don't particularly like eclipse, even for C++ but maybe I'm weird
00:42 floriel let's see: - Install Eclipse + Koneki. CHECK
00:42 floriel - Create a new Lua project from existing source (specify Minetest's base directory).
00:42 hoodedice I don't like eclipse either
00:43 hoodedice Are you installing eclipse for MT modding?
00:43 floriel base directory = ~/.minetest or /usr/share/minetest ?
00:44 floriel @hoodedice yes
00:44 hoodedice I would suggect Scrite, or one of its derivative
00:44 hoodedice Eclipse is overkill
00:44 hoodedice The most you'd need is something that can count brackets
00:44 floriel cat it live-debug lua?
00:45 floriel cat = can
00:45 hoodedice I don't think you can live-debug without running the minetest executable
00:45 hoodedice I had this somewhat proprietary IDE on Windows built solely for lua
00:45 hoodedice Came with live debug too
00:46 floriel yes that's why I'm trying to get Koneki to work
00:46 hoodedice However, newer Minetest versions give verbose, or details lua error outputs, so using any form of live debugging might be obsolete now
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00:46 floriel http://dev.minetest.net/Intro#IDE
00:46 * hoodedice pings VanessaE_ for citation
00:47 hoodedice Ah, the friendly dev manual. For some reason, I don't read it myself =P
00:47 floriel ;-P
00:47 hoodedice "Enter game to startup Lua"
00:47 hoodedice ^There you go
00:47 hoodedice If that line wasn't needed, I'd think twice about it
00:48 floriel it sounded so easy when i first read it three hours ago
00:48 hoodedice hehe
00:48 hoodedice 5 lines.
00:48 hoodedice Still easier than rooting an HTC.
00:48 Jordach hoodedice, i win the award for PURE EVIL
00:49 hoodedice uh huh?
00:49 Jordach there's a biome with no dirt and is PURE ICE
00:49 hoodedice ANyway, I'm waiting for the dogecoin to fall down
00:49 hoodedice What's the rate, anyway
00:49 PilzAdam floriel, I guess sapier used a RUN_IN_PLACE version
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00:50 hoodedice PilzAdam: Protip: "floriel (55b44b28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.180.75.40) has quit (Quit: Page closed)"
00:51 PilzAdam hoodedice, protip: loggingbot_
00:51 floriel narg sould start a real client
00:51 PilzAdam <PilzAdam> floriel, I guess sapier used a RUN_IN_PLACE version
00:52 hoodedice PilzAdam: You really think he would check the logs for disconnecting for 10 seconds?
00:52 hoodedice And now you just pasta'd it twice
00:52 Jordach PilzAdam, what is node_water_dust for
00:52 Jordach (node_dust_water*)
00:52 hoodedice >Efficiency just died.
00:52 PilzAdam hoodedice, no, thats why I copied my message
00:52 PilzAdam Jordach, icy
00:53 Jordach icy = ?
00:53 hoodedice Time for a rename, I say we call it node_water_ice
00:53 Jordach oh
00:53 PilzAdam ice
00:53 Jordach actual ice
00:53 Jordach that layer
00:53 Jordach right
00:53 hoodedice not the hooded one, of course
00:53 hoodedice That guy is a jerk
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00:54 hoodedice Yeah! Doge has fallen, buying some now
00:55 floriel_ i'll try it with the inplace installation
00:56 Jordach if BFD is hard enough, this biome means you're fucked https://cdn.mediacru.sh/meirmNDnk_RG.png
00:56 Jordach solid ice with cracky=3
00:56 Jordach and no mobs spawn here
00:57 Jordach (they won't spawn on ice)
00:58 hoodedice =D
00:58 hoodedice THAT'S MY FE- I mean, I like it, Jordach
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01:58 hoodedice !tell Jordach You better start with those custom models now!  https://twitter.com/ahdinosa​ur/status/457336921899814914
01:58 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
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02:00 luizrpgluiz hi
02:01 hoodedice hello
02:02 luizrpgluiz how are you?
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02:08 hoodedice !tell luizrpgluiz I'm very fine, thank you. What may I help you with?
02:08 MinetestBot hoodedice: yeah, yeah
02:08 hoodedice Shut up MinetestBot, do your zwizzing job.
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03:09 khonkhortisan I would change that to big_freaking_dig - Repo containing the game by the same name for the Minetest Engine so as to not emphasize "the"
03:45 Zeno` are mese pickaxes or diamond better?
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03:47 VanessaE_ yes :P
03:47 Zeno` lol
03:47 Zeno` ok, let me rephrase. Is mese pickaxe >= diamond pickaxes?
03:48 VanessaE_ meh
03:48 Zeno` b) Is mese pickaxe == diamond pickaxes?
03:48 Zeno` c) Is mese pickaxe <= diamond pickaxes?
03:48 VanessaE_ not since they were nerfed
03:48 VanessaE_ depends on what you use them on
03:48 Zeno` well, stone I guess
03:48 VanessaE_ dunno, try it and see
03:48 Zeno` ok, I'll set up an experiment!
03:49 Zeno` actually I may just look at the src code
03:49 Zeno` easier
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05:41 arsdragonfly1 How to use a lua profiler in minetest?
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06:10 Guest33834 Hello?
06:11 sfan5 hello
06:12 Guest33834 Uhh.........?
06:15 sfan5 ???
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06:17 Guest33834 What server are you on?
06:17 ShadowNinja Guest33834: If you're wondering why you were renamed it's because you haven't identified or someone else owns yournickname.
06:18 Guest33834 Im Josie, by the way. And thank you
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06:40 sfan5 !tell Jordach <random> http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg </random>
06:40 sfan5 MinetestBot!
06:40 MinetestBot sfan5!
06:40 sfan5 !tell Jordach <random> http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg </random>
06:40 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
06:40 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
06:41 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
06:41 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
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07:59 Krockyfant hello
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08:22 CWz does dropbox work with remote_media =
08:22 Krock no
08:22 Calinou unlikely
08:23 Calinou not to mention public link abuse can disable your public links :P
08:23 Calinou remote_media needs the files to be encoded, too
08:24 CWz nevermind then
08:26 Krock better use a file hoster
08:26 Krock with direct links
08:30 sfan5 CWz: it odes
08:30 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: jthread remove locks that aren't absolutely required ea0df3e4cb 2014-04-19T10:05:23+02:00 http://git.io/EwjCDw
08:30 sfan5 does*
08:31 sfan5 Krock: a file hoster will likely not work for remote_media
08:31 Krock sfan5, ah does it need UDP too?
08:32 sfan5 no
08:32 sfan5 but you need the files to be at a specific location
08:32 sfan5 and you can rarely control the URL of files when using file hosters
08:32 Krock I talk about filehosters whih are also site hosters. ex. bplaced.com
08:33 Krock Well yes, mediafire won't work
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09:08 markveidemanis Hi!
09:08 sfan5[Mac] hi!
09:08 Krock IH!
09:09 PenguinDad hI!
09:13 Krock http://pastebin.com/GYhGPdVJ
09:13 Krock @everybody --^
09:14 Krock The script is working now
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09:15 Krock ...partwise working..
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09:31 markveidemanis sfan5[Mac]/sfan5, Could you help me with a bit of SQL?
09:31 sfan5 depends
09:33 markveidemanis It's for a Web-IRC-Channel Manager I'm making
09:33 markveidemanis All I need is a username/password select/get//insert system
09:35 sfan5 help != writing code for you
09:37 markveidemanis Yes, I have a basic system
09:37 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9092940
09:38 markveidemanis I'm stuck on parsing got data
09:39 sfan5 wat wat wat
09:39 sfan5 you are reading the whole list of users every time?
09:39 sfan5 that is not how you design a web application
09:39 sfan5 read a book on web app development first
09:41 markveidemanis I need help on the sql, I don't know any SQL functions
09:41 markveidemanis But i guess I would use "read if it exists"
09:41 Krock Inefficient like the ice bear which walks with the head on the ice
09:41 markveidemanis "if not, echo invalid login"
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09:47 markveidemanis sfan5: http://www.insomnia247.nl:5004/ the frontend
09:48 sfan5 <sfan5> read a book on web app SQL development first
09:58 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Use narrow_to_wide in gettext instead of os dependent conversion fct a230e1e736 2014-04-19T11:33:57+02:00 http://git.io/xKBjaQ
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10:04 MinetestBot BlockMen: 04-18 17:14 UTC <sfan5> die  werte sind gut, können wir nehmen
10:04 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Bunch of small fixes (coding style, very unlikely errors, warning messages) eda9214f81 2014-04-19T11:56:19+02:00 http://git.io/3tr9HQ
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11:02 CWz what is the difference  between worldedit_limited and worldedit infinity?
11:04 Krock infinity for creative :D
11:04 markveidemanis The name in my opinion
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11:17 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Replace deathscreen by formspec variant 0d93119040 2014-04-19T12:21:27+02:00 http://git.io/MqfDjA
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11:19 PenguinDad Today seems to be a very developed day ;)
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11:21 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
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11:25 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-19 06:40 UTC <sfan5> <random> http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg </random>
11:28 Calinou a very MSVC day
11:28 * Calinou upgraded to 14.04
11:28 Calinou terminal icon is prettier!
11:28 * sfan5 did not yet
11:29 Calinou OpenGL 4.4!
11:29 sfan5 I better do it now
11:29 Jordach Calinou, finally happy then
11:29 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-19 06:40 UTC <sfan5> <random> http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg </random>
11:30 sfan5 oh MinetestBot...
11:30 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
11:30 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
11:30 Jordach sfan5, seriously
11:30 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-19 06:40 UTC <sfan5> <random> http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg </random>
11:30 Calinou 29% GPu usage on Minetest (60 FPS limit)
11:30 sfan5 Jordach: not my fault
11:30 Calinou GPU fan RPM 1980
11:30 Calinou (doesn't seem to change much at load, but card is much noisier)
11:31 Calinou (mechanical noise probably)
11:31 sfan5 oh lol
11:31 Jordach sfan5, protip: i prefer Scout / Sniper (w/ huntsman)
11:31 sfan5 it does not allow me to upgrade to 14.04
11:31 * Jordach withdraws 10000 DOGE that hoodedice tipped me
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11:31 * sfan5 meows
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11:40 Jordach hey BlockMen
11:40 Calinou huntsman ftl
11:40 Calinou sfan5, why?
11:40 Calinou "sudo do-release-upgrade" will
11:40 Calinou if you're on 12.04, you would have to wait until 14.04.1...
11:40 sfan5 I'll do it later
11:40 BlockMen hi Jordach
11:41 * Jordach still waits for 64bit builds
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11:46 Calinou 64 bit builds of what?
11:47 Jordach Minetest from Bl0ckMen
11:48 Calinou BIockMen :P
11:48 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/YtC-oO84o8No.png
11:48 PenguinDad Jordach: you know that 32 bit works on 64 bit machines ;P
11:48 Jordach PenguinDad, BUT SPEED PENALTIES
11:49 PenguinDad sometimes 64 bit slows down applications :/
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11:50 Calinou very rare
11:50 Calinou speed penalties of 32 bits compared to 64 bits are tiny
11:51 Calinou probably less than 2 FPS
11:51 Calinou ??? I can't close console once I open it
11:52 * Jordach hears oh shit being screamed from the south east
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11:52 PenguinDad only applications that need huge amounts of RAM really benefit from 64 bit
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11:55 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:56 PenguinDad hi PilzAdam
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11:57 PilzAdam time to upgrade
11:57 kaeza mornings
11:57 PenguinDad good afternoon kaeza
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12:13 PenguinDad !seen reactor
12:13 MinetestBot PenguinDad: reactor was last seen at 2014-04-16 11:57:03 UTC on #minetest
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12:21 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix win32 build (typo in jthread lock cleanup) 8745935a06 2014-04-19T14:09:01+02:00 http://git.io/TMVSxw
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12:26 markveidemanis sfan5: http://pastie.org/9093290
12:26 markveidemanis did it
12:26 markveidemanis http://insomnia247.nl:5004/ try to crash it
12:36 Krock ghaaahhhh over 200 errors in just 20 seconds
12:37 Krock "Welcome, Krocky" uh so nice, markveidemanis.
12:37 markveidemanis ...
12:37 markveidemanis Not me
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12:40 markveidemanis Oh, you registered
12:40 markveidemanis Was gonna start blaming tab autocomplete
12:41 markveidemanis kaeza/asdf...
12:41 kaeza :P
12:41 markveidemanis da dum tsss
12:41 kaeza thanks for telling everyone my supah 1337 pw
12:42 kaeza :(
12:42 Krock xD
12:42 markveidemanis ZD
12:42 Krock gonna create the qwerty acc
12:42 markveidemanis Having fun trying to break my shit?
12:43 Krock no, it's not a funny site
12:43 Krock btw, do you run python as an extention on this server?
12:43 markveidemanis if username == "kaeza":
12:43 Krock cuz of *.html and it's dynamic... somehow
12:44 markveidemanis It's not dynamic :P
12:44 markveidemanis look at the address bar
12:44 Krock "Username Taken" ah I see
12:44 kaeza also...
12:44 * kaeza hugs markveidemanis for not using PHP
12:44 Krock delete the .htaccess file
12:45 markveidemanis yay
12:45 markveidemanis I hate PHP
12:45 * Krock slaps kaeza and markveidemanis
12:45 Krock PHP is nice
12:45 * markveidemanis throws PHP at Krock
12:45 * Krock catches
12:45 * PenguinDad slaps Krock for liking PHP
12:45 * markveidemanis throws bug.py.css.html.php at Krock
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12:45 * kaeza slaps Krock with a thin wrapper with no error checking whatsoever
12:46 * Krock slaps PenguinDad for not liking PHP
12:46 * markveidemanis remembers the pizza
12:46 * Krock gets errors
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12:47 * Krock wonders why none likes PHP
12:47 markveidemanis $$
12:47 Krock $$??
12:47 markveidemanis awww qwerty
12:48 PenguinDad ?? give Krock $$
12:48 ShadowBot Krock: <$>
12:48 Krock ...
12:49 markveidemanis $php = array["php", "is", "%s"] % "python"
12:49 markveidemanis ?? give markveidemanis cows
12:49 ShadowBot markveidemanis: <cows>
12:49 Krock ? give markveidemanis help
12:49 Krock ? give markveidemanis help
12:49 Krock wtf
12:49 Krock it keeps removing 1st ?
12:49 PenguinDad ?? give PenguinDad list
12:49 ShadowBot PenguinDad: Admin, Aka, Anonymous, Brainfuck, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Ctcp, Debug, DerplangPlus, Dict, Filter, FloodProtector, Format, Games, GitHub, Google, Karma, Later, Logger, Math, MessageParser, Minetest, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Reply, Scheduler, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, Unix, User, Util, (1 more message)
12:50 PenguinDad ?? give Krock Karma
12:50 ShadowBot PenguinDad: Error: I have no karma for this channel.
12:50 Krock ?? give PenguinDad Quote
12:50 ShadowBot Krock: Error: I have no quotes in my database for #minetest.
12:51 PenguinDad ?? give Krock Time
12:51 ShadowBot Krock: 07:51 AM, April 19, 2014
12:51 Krock ?? give ShadowBot Minetest
12:51 ShadowBot ShadowBot: <Minetest>
12:53 kaeza Krock--
12:53 Krock spammy?
12:53 PenguinDad kaeza++
12:54 Krock PenguinDad^3
12:58 Krock lol
13:10 markveidemanis ~seen Rhy5
13:10 ShadowBot markveidemanis: I saw Rhy5 in #minetest 5 weeks, 5 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes, and 49 seconds ago saying "is afk"
13:10 markveidemanis ~seen Rhys
13:10 ShadowBot markveidemanis: I haven't seen Rhys in #minetest.
13:13 Penguin^3 ~logger seenany PenguinDad
13:13 ShadowBot Penguin^3: I saw PenguinDad in #minetest 18 minutes and 18 seconds ago changing nick to Penguin^3
13:14 Jordach !tw https://twitter.com/ahdinosa​ur/status/457336921899814914
13:14 MinetestBot @tipdoge tip @jordansnelling 10000 #dogecoin for Big Freaking Dig (https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig). referred by hoodedice. (@ahdinosaur)
13:15 Jordach pay me doges and i'll work for you
13:16 Jordach wasn't even joking, lol
13:17 Jordach !tell hoodedice https://cdn.mediacru.sh/t8yoep81BvfM.png
13:17 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when hoodedice is around
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13:18 Penguin^3 !c 10000 * 0.0006435
13:18 MinetestBot 6.435
13:20 Jordach suddenly, doge goes to $10
13:20 Jordach dat money though
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13:26 Krock hmm, how can I convert html encoded chars into letters with lua?
13:27 Krock with minetest.formspec_escape?
13:28 * Jordach works on a modified player.lua
13:31 PilzAdam Krock, no
13:43 * Jordach converts a BFD specific feature into MTG
13:46 Jordach PilzAdam, how do i check for a file's existence with minetest.get_modpath
13:46 PilzAdam Jordach, check my skins mod
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13:50 Jordach 14:48:56: ERROR[main]: ServerError: ...Copy\bin\..\games\minetest_ga​me\mods\default/genders.lua:34: attempt to concatenate a nil value
13:50 Jordach i'm actually checking for player_pilzadam.png texture
13:50 Jordach because that's obvious if player_textures is there
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13:51 Jordach if io.open(minetest.get_modpath("player_text​ures").."/textures/player_pilzadam.png") then in question should work
13:51 Jordach hey EvergreenTree <3
13:52 EvergreenTree :3
13:55 Jordach https://gist.github.com/Jo​rdach/fa5766241d37976cc370
13:55 Jordach PilzAdam, ^
13:55 Jordach can't concatenate nil value, except the identical thing is in your player_textures
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14:02 PilzAdam Jordach, is the mod called player_textures?
14:03 Jordach PilzAdam, it checks if yours exists
14:03 Jordach and then applies the player_textures code
14:04 PilzAdam the code in the gist doesnt do that
14:04 Jordach line 33
14:04 Jordach is where it shits itself
14:05 PilzAdam minetest.get_modpath("player_textures") returns nil if there is no mod called player_textures
14:05 Krock ..or if it doesn't depend on it
14:06 * Krock hides
14:08 Jordach w00t
14:08 Jordach it works
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14:10 Krock Jordach, it seems like it overrides the whole file when you save it, also the file isn't getting closed after the "operation"
14:13 PenguinDad How do I make the schematics for tree spawning?
14:13 Jordach boosh
14:13 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/nRtT8sro7QFl.png
14:13 Jordach got it
14:14 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game :D
14:15 Jordach you can actually intergrate my BFD addon into your MTG based game, eg, Minetest NeXt if you like
14:16 Jordach (might start work on MTG_V7(
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14:44 sfan5 meow
14:45 Krock rawr
14:45 markveidemanis 6Meow
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14:48 NekoGloop MinetestBot!
14:48 MinetestBot NekoGloop!
14:49 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
14:49 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
14:50 Krock !g Minetest how to build nice houses
14:50 MinetestBot Krock: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8772
14:50 Krock !title
14:50 * sfan5 purrs at MinetestBot
14:50 MinetestBot Krock: [Mod] Forest (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums
14:50 Krock ....
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15:29 Jordach HOLY SHIT
15:30 Jordach that didn't happen
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15:30 PenguinDad D:
15:30 rdococ I have finally installed minetest for ubuntu and it works (only with smooth lighting on though)!
15:31 markveidemanis I hope you formatted your hard drive
15:31 rdococ However, the window is a little too large, how do I fix that?
15:31 markveidemanis Not you rdococ
15:31 markveidemanis !doc fullscreen
15:31 Jordach there's a fucking FOSS GAME ON STEAM
15:31 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GMx6M0eU2i39.png
15:31 markveidemanis !wiki fullscreen
15:31 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Fullscreen
15:32 rdococ I tried f11 but it does nothing
15:32 PenguinDad you can set the window size in pixels via ScreenH and ScreenW in minetest.conf
15:32 rdococ Ok nen
15:32 rdococ Brb
15:33 PenguinDad Jordach: you mean Warsow?
15:33 Jordach PenguinDad, not warsow
15:33 Jordach it's an RTS using the spring engine
15:34 rdococ what version of minetest do I have? I can't tell
15:34 Hirato_ Jordach: inb4 ToME
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15:35 Jordach Hirato_, http://www.evolutionrts.info/
15:35 PenguinDad wow evolution rts is on steam O_O
15:35 Hirato_ http://store.steampowered.com/app/259680 I meant this Jordach
15:41 rdococ Oh it's 0.3.1
15:41 rdococ And here's
15:42 rdococ If I install from the software centre where does the application go
15:43 Krock version 0.3.1 is just a ..little outdated bt
15:43 Krock w
15:43 rdococ Ik
15:43 rdococ I have 0.4.9 on windows but the messed icons are not worth it
15:44 Krock then get a 0.4.9-dev version from the forums, they're better
15:44 rdococ Wait a minute, I recognise you
15:45 rdococ OMG KROCK!
15:45 rdococ Do I need to uninstall 0.3.1 to get the 0.4.9-dev?
15:46 Krock just put i intoa new folder
15:47 PenguinDad Krock: FYI he's talking about linux at the moment
15:47 rdococ How do I download packages from launch pad?
15:47 rdococ Yeah I'm in ubuntu at the moment.
15:47 * Krock redirects to PenguinDad, the one who knows everything
15:48 rdococ He isn't responding though!
15:49 rdococ Removing 0.3.1...
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15:55 rdococ Recovering from a crash while removing 0.3.1 potentially causing system corruption...
15:55 rdococ Ubuntu looks like it can't be used ever again...
15:57 rdococ Ok I've recovered, minetest seems to be gone
15:57 PenguinDad rdococ: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install minetest" type this in your terminal without the quotes
15:57 PenguinDad then you have the latest daily build installed
15:59 PenguinDad if you want the normal stable releases replace the "daily-builds" with "stable"
15:59 rdococ Something happened and I've had to run something else
15:59 rdococ To set up dpkg properly
16:00 rdococ Retrying...
16:02 rdococ It's installing but it's taking forever
16:02 rdococ oh finally it's beginning to unpack minetest instead of lib office stuff
16:02 rdococ And crash.
16:03 sfan5 rdococ: paste the error
16:03 rdococ Nvm there is no crash
16:03 rdococ But it's lagging badly, still installing
16:05 PenguinDad rdococ: you seem to have a internet connection like me ;)
16:05 rdococ Bad or good? I've recently got a super hub
16:05 rdococ It's finished now
16:05 rdococ Btw the lag was computer lag not network lag
16:06 PenguinDad oh I thought you were talking about real lag
16:07 rdococ Computer lag is common
16:07 rdococ My computer JUST CRASHED AGAIN.
16:07 rdococ Wait I'm so confused
16:07 rdococ It's ok
16:08 rdococ Or not
16:08 Jordach 1) wait for the machine
16:08 Jordach 2) make a coffee or a tea
16:08 Jordach 3) sit back
16:08 rdococ 4) be a jerk and turn the computer off with the force
16:08 rdococ I choose 4
16:08 rdococ Wait!
16:09 rdococ The game is up
16:10 rdococ KROCK, are you playing right now?
16:10 BlockMen "everything minetest_next related is now discussed on ##minetest-next"
16:11 rdococ I have no idea what your talking about
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16:27 EvergreenTree Is there any way of removing a given privilege with the modding api?
16:28 Krock try minetest.registered_privileges[priv] = nil
16:28 EvergreenTree I'll test it
16:29 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: do you mean revoking a priv from a player or deleting the priv at all
16:29 EvergreenTree no, I mean removing the revoking
16:29 EvergreenTree *revoking
16:29 EvergreenTree can't type
16:30 EvergreenTree revoking, not removing
16:30 EvergreenTree :P]
16:30 Krock oh
16:30 Krock just comment out the revoke command then?
16:30 rdococ Bug: minetest 0.4.9-dev is barely playable
16:31 Krock rdococ, system info? graphic card? opengl version?
16:31 rdococ Ubuntu 12.10, minetest 0.4.9dev, no OpenGL version known to have been installed
16:32 EvergreenTree Let me try again, is there any way of revoking a privilege of a given player via the modding api
16:32 Krock start MT, ojin a world and you'll see the OpenGL version
16:32 EvergreenTree what do you mean by "barely playable"?
16:32 EvergreenTree bad framerate?
16:32 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: look at the /freeze here https://bitbucket.org/PenguinDad/fr​eeze/src/ff8674d5ca269ea515b89ac540​4b911073683b81/init.lua?at=default
16:32 PenguinDad +command
16:32 rdococ 2 seconds per frame, approx
16:33 PenguinDad wut 0.5 FPS
16:33 EvergreenTree are shaders inabled!
16:33 rdococ More accurately 1 second per frame but they're horrible none-the-less
16:33 EvergreenTree *?
16:33 rdococ Shaders are disabled as far as i know but I'll check
16:33 EvergreenTree hm
16:33 EvergreenTree what are your computer specs?
16:34 rdococ Oh shaders are enabled but no specific shaders are ticked
16:34 EvergreenTree no, disable it
16:34 EvergreenTree shaders on slows it down
16:34 EvergreenTree even if no shaders are ticked
16:34 PenguinDad rdococ: try disabling all settings except mip mapping
16:34 rdococ Ok
16:34 EvergreenTree no, just try disabling shaders first
16:34 rdococ Even opaque water?
16:35 rdococ Because wouldn't that decrease lag by decreasing the operations involving translucency!
16:35 rdococ ?*
16:35 Krock PenguinDad, as far I know from my settings, mip mapping doesn't increase the FPS
16:35 rdococ Well it has been a huge improvement doing that penguin dad, thanks for the advice.
16:35 EvergreenTree mip mapping just blurs farteher off textures
16:35 EvergreenTree *farther
16:36 rdococ I've got fog on though so I won't see
16:36 EvergreenTree press f4 (I think
16:36 rdococ It's somewhat playable with full render distance.
16:36 EvergreenTree no, f3
16:36 EvergreenTree that turns off fog
16:36 rdococ No, r
16:36 EvergreenTree you have to be ingame though
16:36 EvergreenTree rdococ: that's full view
16:37 rdococ Ok your right
16:37 EvergreenTree if you want a shorter view distance without fog, press f3
16:37 Krock (F4 is camera update btw)
16:37 rdococ I would prefer a view distance in between far and close.
16:38 EvergreenTree press shift and + to extend viewing range
16:38 Krock viewing_range_nodes_max = 16
16:38 EvergreenTree and - to reduce it
16:38 Krock put that into minetest.conf to test
16:38 rdococ I can't decrease it
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16:39 rdococ How do I force chunks to load properly?
16:39 EvergreenTree I don't think you can force load chunks
16:39 EvergreenTree you just have to wait for them to load
16:40 EvergreenTree or can you?   I'm not sure
16:40 rdococ And very occasionally I suddenly get a flash of random color
16:40 EvergreenTree I used to have that problem
16:40 rdococ Yeah but it won't annoy me much
16:40 EvergreenTree just video card/built in graphics problems
16:40 EvergreenTree can't really be fixed
16:40 Krock minetest.forceload_block(pos)
16:40 rdococ Woohoo! Perfect icons p
16:40 EvergreenTree Krock: that's in the modding api
16:40 EvergreenTree he means in game
16:41 EvergreenTree :P
16:41 Krock ah
16:41 rdococ It was probably just shaders that really lagged me out
16:41 EvergreenTree yes, it is
16:42 EvergreenTree you have to have a somewhat decent graphics card to use them
16:42 EvergreenTree I have a pretty good system
16:42 EvergreenTree 4 core cpu at 3.8ghz, 4gb of ram, and an AMD Radeon 7750 graphics card
16:42 rdococ Oh wow, mines probably a single core
16:43 rdococ Ok I'm going to do some settings
16:43 rdococ Enabled 3d clouds and particles
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16:43 rdococ Still no lag.
16:44 * Krock has a 512MB graphic card but it's still shittyplayable
16:44 rdococ What does that mean?!
16:45 rdococ I probably don't even have a graphics card on mine
16:45 Krock range view of 16 nodes,does that mean.
16:45 rdococ but that's just a hypothesis
16:45 PenguinDad I'm quite satisfied with my AMD Phenom II X6 1100T and my GeForce GTX 650 :P
16:46 EvergreenTree That's a good combo
16:46 EvergreenTree I would have gotten a 650 ti, but the Radeon was cheaper
16:46 EvergreenTree rdococ: you probably don't have a graphics cards
16:46 rdococ I'm sure Packard bell will go bankrupt soon so don't worry guys
16:46 EvergreenTree it's probably builtin
16:47 rdococ I do use a laptop so perhaps that's true
16:47 rdococ I have a question about the height of the map
16:47 sfan5 30000 blocks
16:47 sfan5 up and down
16:47 rdococ Does minetest use cubic chunks then?
16:47 sfan5 yes
16:48 rdococ I was wondering why I could just keep going down and down and feel like I should be in the void
16:48 Krock haha would be funny to have globe-like chunks
16:48 rdococ Spherical chunks?
16:49 Krock yup.
16:49 rdococ That's not exactly possible
16:50 rdococ If we have different shapes of chunks then they'd be much harder to pinpoint and determine which chunks are near the player
16:50 PenguinDad Krock: interesting idea because our world is build out of many irregular spheres
16:51 rdococ If you mean atoms then I suppose your right
16:51 Krock PenguinDad, yup and itself is a sphere too..
16:51 Krock Maths: cubic, Nature: spherical
16:52 rdococ Nature is spherical in many ways, your right
16:52 PenguinDad and nature is irregular
16:52 rdococ Nature is twisted. nature is cracked
16:53 rdococ Nature is all things that obey the rule that the speed of light must be kept the same at all times
16:53 crazyR Krock. just been looking at your player notes mod, how easy would it be to display the notes in a formspec
16:54 rdococ OMG I have an epic idea
16:54 Krock crazyR, hmm would be easy I think. I already had the same idea but was too lazy to re-program it
16:54 rdococ Command block mod!
16:54 Krock messecons:command_block
16:54 PenguinDad TIL macros should be avoided in C and C++
16:54 EvergreenTree rdococ: exists
16:54 rdococ Oh,
16:55 rdococ Err I can't give it myself
16:55 rdococ Unless I need the mese cons mod
16:56 PenguinDad you need to install mesecons for that node
16:56 rdococ Brb toilet
16:57 rdococ Back
17:02 rdococ Again, the inventory hotbar is partially invisible
17:06 rdococ Where on earth is the Minetest.conf file
17:07 PenguinDad same folder where you added the games folder
17:08 PenguinDad *in the same
17:08 rdococ I really want to try out shaders, are there any stuff to Di
17:08 rdococ remove the lag caused by them
17:09 rdococ Ooh joining a server now
17:12 EvergreenTree rdococ: there is no way of removing lag by shaders except getting better processing power
17:12 EvergreenTree :P
17:13 EvergreenTree Let me try again, is there any way of revoking a privilege of a given player via the modding api?
17:13 rdococ If there was it'd be obvious
17:14 PenguinDad <PenguinDad> EvergreenTree: look at the freeze command definition here https://bitbucket.org/PenguinDad/fr​eeze/src/ff8674d5ca269ea515b89ac540​4b911073683b81/init.lua?at=default
17:14 PenguinDad ^ EvergreenTree
17:14 EvergreenTree rdococ: not really
17:15 EvergreenTree I tried set_player_privs
17:16 EvergreenTree Would I just have to get_player_privs and the change one of them to false?
17:16 Krock how about looking into builtin codes?
17:17 EvergreenTree oh yeah
17:18 EvergreenTree there are chat commands in that
17:19 Krock exactly.
17:20 EvergreenTree sometimes default code is the best source
17:21 rdococ I'm playing at the moment so I'm not listening
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17:25 EvergreenTree o/ e1z0
17:25 EvergreenTree *Enke
17:25 EvergreenTree sorry e1z0
17:25 EvergreenTree :P
17:25 Jordach lol
17:30 rdococ KROCK you left the game, come back
17:31 Krock Am I a dog?
17:32 EvergreenTree no, but Penguin is a Doge
17:32 rdococ Well I need to know where there are trees I can get wood from without being jailed for griefing on your server p
17:32 GhostDoge woof
17:33 Krock lol
17:33 rdococ I don't want to be horrible to nature but I do want some wood
17:35 Jordach who just sent me 100 doge
17:36 GhostDoge Jordach: http://dogechain.info/tx/b47a2547893130ed5383​476087e570a2a12711281126420a38a7f9e92612c013
17:36 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap
17:36 Jordach sfan5?
17:36 sfan5 no
17:36 Jordach cmon own up
17:36 Jordach don't make me have to
17:36 GhostDoge Jordach: I gave them to you
17:37 Jordach :O
17:37 * Jordach purrs
17:39 GhostDoge that's less the amount I mined in 2 days
17:42 rdococ Btw I have OpenGL 1.4
17:43 GhostDoge rdococ: that version is quite old
17:44 rdococ Well apparently it works so I'm not upgrading any time soon
17:45 Krock Yay, another guy with the same OpenGL version
17:45 Krock parteyy!
17:47 sfan5 Jordach: which opengl do you have?
17:47 sfan5 I haz 4.4.0
17:47 Jordach some bullshit 4.2
17:47 rdococ wait, is it possible to take damage in creative mode?
17:47 GhostDoge yes
17:48 rdococ That's if you enable it .
17:48 rdococ At the moment I'm in survival mode in my world and I've got damage disabled
17:49 rdococ That was one of my dreams - a survival invincibility gamemode
17:52 rdococ I'd like to try to program a hunger mod into minetest
17:55 crazyR sorry krock only just got your message lol
17:56 Krock why sorry? it has time
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17:56 MinetestBot luizrpgluiz: 04-19 02:08 UTC <hoodedice> I'm very fine, thank you. What may I help you with?
17:57 luizrpgluiz when going out version 1.0 of minetest?
17:58 Krock long time, luizrpgluiz, maybe never
17:59 luizrpgluiz anyone here does mods for the game and have some video teaching to do mods?
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18:00 Krock lua_api.txt is your friend, just go through some wtfpl-licensed projects and copy what you need
18:01 khonkhortisan I was modding, when I ran into a math problem. I have one or two rectangular prisms (given by two or four points) which may or may not overlap. I wish to iterate through every inside point, without going through the same point twice.
18:04 luizrpgluiz is that I learn best by seeing someone do mod
18:05 EvergreenTree There is no such video afaik
18:05 EvergreenTree luizrpgluiz: here, you pretty much have to learn by looking at other people's code and sturggling through figuring out waht it does
18:05 EvergreenTree That's what I have done
18:06 EvergreenTree knowing lua helps too
18:06 EvergreenTree My OpenGl version is 2.1 or something
18:07 GhostDoge My OpenGL is version 4.4.0
18:07 Krock My OpenGl version is 1.4.0
18:07 Krock beat em all
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18:08 Halite my ipad ran out of power
18:08 Halite so im using my ubuntu to access irc
18:08 Krock Happens.
18:08 Halite i do not know for the life of me which directory i can put minetest mods in
18:10 GhostDoge you have put them in ~/.minetest/mods/
18:10 Halite and wheres that
18:10 Halite im using ubuntu btw
18:10 Krock HDD0
18:10 Halite ?
18:11 markveidemanis in the mods folder
18:11 GhostDoge ~ is your home folder
18:11 ShadowBot GhostDoge: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:11 Krock spammer
18:11 GhostDoge shut up ShadowBot
18:12 JackGruff ~
18:13 JackGruff hmm
18:13 Krock ~ try is this way
18:13 ShadowBot Krock: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:13 JackGruff ~ test
18:14 Krock you're ignored :P
18:14 GhostDoge ~ testing is nice
18:14 ShadowBot GhostDoge: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:14 JackGruff ~ a b c
18:14 JackGruff :[
18:14 Krock ><((((*>
18:14 GhostDoge JackGruff: it must contain is to get that error
18:14 JackGruff ~ is
18:14 ShadowBot JackGruff: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:14 JackGruff yay
18:15 JackGruff what does it do?
18:15 Krock ...you don't see? it's throwing errors
18:15 GhostDoge ask ShadowNinja
18:15 ShadowNinja Hmmm?
18:16 ShadowNinja ~test123 is Testing 123 testing...
18:16 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
18:16 ShadowNinja ~test123
18:16 ShadowBot test123 is Testing 123 testing...
18:17 JackGruff yes, but what does the command do?
18:17 Krock now I get it :D
18:17 Krock it sets a variable
18:17 JackGruff oh
18:17 Krock ~troll is amazing
18:17 ShadowBot Krock: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:17 Krock oh..
18:17 Krock but..I'm registred
18:18 Krock brb
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18:18 GhostDoge Krock: read the end of the message
18:18 Krock can't anymore
18:18 Krock lol
18:19 Krock ~give Krock error
18:19 ShadowBot Krock: <error>
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18:21 ShadowNinja Krock: /msg ShadowBot help register
18:21 Krock ah thx ShadowNinja
18:23 Krock Gets the data sent to google when I register? </bad_question>
18:23 JackGruff when are we going to get better entities so that we can send armies of mobs at each other in multiplayer :(
18:24 EvergreenTree JackGruff: "when" is nearly impossible to answer
18:24 ShadowNinja Krock: No, of course not.  It's stored in an INI-style file with hashed passwords.
18:24 JackGruff i know, im just whining
18:25 Krock ShadowNinja, oks :)
18:25 ShadowNinja JackGruff: When someone codes it.  ;-)
18:25 JackGruff it's why i still play minecraft. both games have different strengths
18:25 Krock ~path is %programfiles%
18:25 ShadowBot Krock: O.K.
18:25 Krock wow.
18:25 ShadowNinja And I know only slightly more than NULL about Minetest's entity management, so I can't do it.
18:26 * Krock never playd MC...maybe cuz he an't even play MT smoothly
18:26 JackGruff you can actually play MC on the same hardware MT would run, with optifine it's a bit easier ofcourse
18:26 * ShadowNinja can get 300+ FPS with recent MT versions, in Debug mode!
18:27 Jordach HORSE SHIT
18:27 Jordach ~120fps within MC, ~60 within MT
18:27 Krock And debug is mre G-/CPU intensive than normal, ShadowNinja?
18:27 Krock *more
18:27 GhostDoge ShadowNinja: that's easy with singlenode :P
18:27 ShadowNinja With a .drirc that disables vsync, and Minetest's limit set high.
18:28 EvergreenTree ShadowNinja: Computer specs?
18:28 ShadowNinja Krock: Yes.
18:28 Krock ok
18:28 ShadowNinja Jordach: Have you disabled your video driver's VSync?
18:28 Krock How to enable videodriver's vsync? </troll>
18:29 EvergreenTree I get ~40-60fps in minetest
18:29 EvergreenTree and I have sub par hardware for gaming
18:29 ShadowNinja Hmmm, only getting ~150 now.
18:29 EvergreenTree but above par for regular use
18:30 Krock I can beat everypony --  20 FPS on singlenode
18:30 Krock No upper limit set
18:30 Krock wait..that's not true
18:30 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ReQshnUO3hUB.png
18:30 EvergreenTree I think my limit is 60fps
18:30 EvergreenTree no need to go beyond that
18:31 Krock I tried this: "wanted_fps = 200" but it didn't work :( </noob>
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18:32 MinetestBot meldrian: 04-17 19:58 UTC <BlockMen> hi, sehr schöne modvorstellung (creatures) ;) hättest du mal lust better hud vorzustellen (oder meinst du das lohnt sich nicht)?
18:33 meldrian BlockMen, i'll put it on my list, expect it in the near future
18:33 meldrian hello everyone around
18:33 Krock hai
18:33 Jordach system tops out at 61fps within MT
18:33 BlockMen hi meldrian, cool :)
18:34 sfan5 Jordach: minetest is limited to 60 fps by default
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18:35 Jordach i can hit 350fps
18:35 SegFault22 Ugh, registering tools using ipairs isn't working... what gives?
18:35 Krock try functions
18:35 SegFault22 functions
18:35 sfan5 SegFault22: paste your code
18:35 SegFault22 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9118
18:36 sfan5 there is not reason why this would not work
18:36 Krock lol
18:36 Krock fail
18:36 * Jordach has heard rumours of someone getting 5000fps in MC
18:36 Krock "1.0", "cracky = {times={[1]=2.40, [2]=2.00, [3]=1.60}, uses=32, maxlevel=3}", "fleshy=5" },
18:36 ShadowNinja SegFault22: Um, because it's quoted?
18:36 Krock that's not valid
18:37 SegFault22 It's wuoted because that's how ipairs works
18:37 SegFault22 quoted
18:37 ShadowNinja SegFault22: No it doesn't.
18:37 Jordach SegFault22, minetest registrations require tables, not strings
18:37 Krock SegFault22, try whole tablestoo
18:37 SegFault22 Okay, i'l ltest that theory
18:37 ShadowNinja SegFault22: Remove quotes around everything that isn't a string.
18:37 Krock String != code
18:37 ShadowNinja ipairs does not parse strings as Lua code.
18:37 Krock btw, beat me: http://i.imgur.com/CAb7bef.png ##fps_max
18:38 ShadowNinja And neither does pairs.
18:38 Jordach ShadowNinja, i can top out at 120fps on MC
18:38 Jordach but Minetest's view isn't locked to bare minium
18:38 Jordach -to bar minium
18:39 SegFault22 Nope, you're wrong. Although it does not crash, it still does not work, same as before.
18:39 SegFault22 :P
18:39 ShadowNinja At a view range of 0 I get ~380 FPS.  With a view range of 100-200 I get about 150 FPS.
18:39 ShadowNinja 700 even.
18:39 Krock 0 should be inf.
18:40 Krock SegFault22, codes? error? problem?
18:40 SegFault22 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9118
18:40 Krock already seen this
18:40 Krock update the codes there to actual please
18:41 SegFault22 No error codes or anything. It acts as if it's working fine, but won't break stone, just like if you were to try breaking stone with your bare hands.
18:41 ShadowNinja SegFault22: There are still quotes.
18:41 SegFault22 Yeah, because that's a forum post
18:41 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=138513#p138513
18:41 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/GMGg5Hm.png
18:41 Jordach bare minium distance to render
18:42 Krock don't believe it uses 11% of memory..
18:42 SegFault22 It works! thank you :D
18:43 Krock <Krock>String != code
18:43 SegFault22 "String != code" ?
18:43 Krock try to run codes out of a string.
18:43 SegFault22 Sorry, I don't speak C++
18:44 Krock "print(\"hello world\")" impossible.
18:44 SegFault22 Ah
18:44 SegFault22 Okay
18:44 SegFault22 thank you
18:44 SegFault22 you've been helpful
18:44 Krock uhm..yay?
18:44 GhostDoge Krock: with loadstring it's possible
18:45 ShadowNinja GhostDoge: Of course, but he isn't using loadstring, and using it would be dumb.
18:45 Krock GhostDoge, maybe it just writes codes to a temponary files and tells the code-parser: "take this too"
18:47 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/DONWUgK.png
18:47 Jordach clear fucking winner
18:48 Krock I see no winner there.
18:48 Krock but the landscape looks very good
18:49 Jordach 240fps in MC, 140fps in MT (even before it tries to increase my vision)
18:49 Jordach reminder: all my settings are full
18:49 Jordach and both are 64bit enabled
18:49 Krock set max_block_send_distance to 100 :P
18:49 Krock then full view range
18:49 Krock have fun.
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18:58 * GhostDoge barks at NekoGloopMkII in MkII style
18:58 PilzAdam yay! upgrade failed!
18:59 Krock linux?
18:59 kaeza PilzAdam, upgrading buntu?
18:59 PilzAdam tried to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04
19:00 ShadowNinja alias updrade='pacman -Syu'  :-)
19:00 ShadowNinja s/d/g/
19:01 PilzAdam the upgrade to 13.10 only broke a bit; now this one totally messed it up
19:02 Jordach Ubuntu problems
19:02 * Jordach sits there with a perfect copy of a working operating system known as Windows
19:03 * PilzAdam too
19:03 Jordach (for once i haven't broke it by tweaking it; it's a first)
19:03 Jordach Linux will probably get ultimately adopted if they fix the broken method of installing updates
19:04 * EvergreenTree doesn't want to upgrade to 14.04
19:04 * EvergreenTree sticks with 13.10
19:04 PilzAdam EvergreenTree: why not? init failing to remount root into rw is totally fun!
19:05 GhostDoge If Fedora 21 is finished I'll see how upgrading is :/
19:05 EvergreenTree I'm only upgrading when it's necessary
19:05 Jordach i've got support for the next 10 years
19:06 PilzAdam best way to upgrade seems to be to backup /home, get a list of installed packages and then simply reinstall
19:06 PilzAdam EvergreenTree: that would be in 6 months IIRC
19:06 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: And THAT is why I switched to Arch Linux.
19:07 PilzAdam ShadowNinja: does Arch have something wubi like?
19:07 EvergreenTree PilzAdam: that really does seem like the best option
19:07 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Nope, at least not that I know of.
19:07 EvergreenTree That way I don't have to reconfigure all my programs
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19:10 * kaeza kills windows console and installs rxvt
19:10 ShadowNinja https://startpage.com/do/searc​h?query=arch+linux+loop+mount
19:11 kaeza PilzAdam, for me the upgrade went flawlessly, but now the new kernel and/or usb_modeswitch does not recognize the wireless modem :(
19:12 PilzAdam kaeza: thats not how I would define "flawlessly"
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19:12 SegFault22 Umm, why are the forums in maintenance mode now?
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19:13 PilzAdam canonical actually dropped wubi now, but there appeared one in the live usb stick I created
19:13 kaeza1 hurr durr
19:13 ShadowNinja SegFault22: Switching to phpBB.
19:14 Krock Oh noez! Can't post mah ketteh picturez nao
19:15 PilzAdam I have to admit that webchat is actually pretty bad
19:16 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: QWebIRC is.  KiwiIRC is pretty good.
19:16 PilzAdam ShadowNinja: dont CTCP me! It might crash!
19:16 kaeza lol
19:17 PilzAdam Im in constant fear of BSOD currently
19:17 ShadowNinja New longest CTCP VERSION winner: Received CTCP-VERSION answer from PilzAdam: qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; .NET4.0C)
19:18 Krock wow.
19:18 PilzAdam "Mozilla/5.0"? Im on IE
19:18 Krock a windows 7 user
19:19 kaeza IE? :|
19:19 Krock kaeza, follow IE on twitler!
19:19 PilzAdam its the only browser installed on win; and I cant download FF now since that would only take longer for the kubuntu iso to download
19:21 Jordach PilzAdam, BLUESCREEN
19:21 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Brewsers like to pretend to be each other.  Almost all of them do it.
19:21 Krock BSoD ftw
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19:23 JackGruff i just rsync my drive to backup
19:23 JackGruff much simplier
19:23 EvergreenTree To get a list of installed packages and put in in a text file, do "sudo dpkg --get-selections >> file.txt
19:23 EvergreenTree JackGruff: me too
19:23 JackGruff EvergreenTree, yeah. and of course, the arch wiki has a nice article on rsync for system backups
19:24 JackGruff (I wish Debian's wiki was as nice)
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19:32 SegFault22 WTF is going on with the forums?
19:32 PenguinDad SegFault22: Switching to phpBB.
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19:33 SegFault22 Why were the users not informed?
19:33 CraigyDavi There was a thread in the news forum about it
19:34 SegFault22 Some thread at the bottom of a neglected forum with a sentence or two isn't information. A small notification-box above the forums, with red text, is.
19:35 SegFault22 And even in the thread in the news section, nothing was said about downtime.
19:35 kaeza1 I don't see the big deal about waiting at most a couple hours
19:36 Krock BUG! minetest.show_formspec(string, string, string) -> if a function is used for one of those strings and returns nothing, minetest crashes
19:37 SegFault22 When you consider that most of us don't lead a cool life, in which we have to deny invitations to parties because there are so many, it IS a big deal.
19:38 SegFault22 er, in which we would have to do such. We don't because most of us aren't socially blessed.
19:38 khonkhortisan BUG! pressing up in the chat box gives a gotText unhandled ERROR.
19:38 * Jordach just had an insane idea
19:38 Krock BUG! pressing down in a chat bo......
19:39 kaeza BUG! there are bees on the server
19:39 khonkhortisan BUG! pressing numpad up or numpad down without numpad on...
19:39 kaeza lots of bugs actually
19:39 ShadowNinja What is it with SegFault quiting after every paragraph
19:39 ShadowNinja ?
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19:40 Krock Message flood deteted by client - amazing feature
19:40 Krock *detected
19:41 * khonkhortisan holds the up button in the chat box waiting for minetest to say something about chat flood
19:41 Krock haha
19:41 khonkhortisan bug: minetest is not normally an irc client
19:43 khonkhortisan worldedit's //move currently only moves along a single axis, so for now I'm safe with a single-axis same-size rectangular prism merge for the purpose of a node area ownership checking loop.
19:44 JackGruff bug: I can't email from inside minetest
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19:48 EvergreenTree Hi wuz
19:49 * EvergreenTree is thinking about adding some examples to the dev wiki
19:49 EvergreenTree I already added one for minetest.rotate_node
19:50 CraigyDavi That would be very helpfull, adding examples.
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19:53 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/BbJWY1QCiVDK.png :D
20:03 kaeza nice commit message https://github.com/PilzAdam/player_textures/co​mmit/8d25fece8ca044ff1a8a673e3d2d03bdea14f2d5
20:05 Krock ^^
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20:07 Megaf Krock: please join #Minetest-Deb
20:07 Megaf #Minetest-Dev
20:07 Megaf we are talking about that issue, peer not found
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20:08 playzooki hi guys
20:08 CraigyDavi hello
20:08 EvergreenTree ello
20:09 kaeza llo
20:09 Krock hai
20:09 Megaf Krock: stay on #Minetest-Dev please, we are trying to fix  "ERROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: peer ## not found"
20:09 Krock ah
20:10 Krock I can't provide more than I already did
20:12 CraigyDavi That would be great to fix.
20:14 JackGruff is indev superior to v6?
20:14 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Reduce log level for incoming crap packets a0dd2d89f3 2014-04-19T22:12:01+02:00 http://git.io/tn9c4g
20:14 Krock JackGruff, indev is as old as v6
20:15 CraigyDavi Eeek. Forums have ben updated. I notice a few problems...
20:15 Krock <.<
20:15 Krock not optimal bugfixing...well at least that
20:16 * Krock couldn't do it better
20:16 CraigyDavi Lol, here's my forum thread at the moment: http://i.imgur.com/qcFRY9k.png
20:17 JackGruff Krock, it has a misleading name then
20:17 JackGruff to me, at least
20:17 JackGruff indev = in development ?
20:17 Krock ..mode
20:18 Krock :( too less contrast on the new forum
20:18 CraigyDavi I know. The grey text is almost invisible at the footer
20:19 Krock "Registered users: Bing [Bot], BlockMen, CraigyDavi, Evergreen, Google [Bot],"
20:19 Krock lol
20:19 EvergreenTree The theme doesn't work very well
20:19 Krock I want to be a bot too
20:19 EvergreenTree I assume it is being worked on
20:19 * Krock starts useragent changer
20:19 BlockMen the layout is currently broken...
20:19 JackGruff why it is broken is worrying
20:19 JackGruff oh well
20:20 CraigyDavi I thought the new forum was meant to bring "new features" not create more problems.
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20:20 Krock it created more features
20:20 Jordach [21:15:42] <xyz> ShadowNinja: what do I have to do?
20:20 Jordach [21:17:10] <Jordach> i'd roughly guess not fuck up?
20:20 Krock lol
20:20 CraigyDavi haha
20:21 EvergreenTree This is going to take quite a bit of getting used to
20:21 EvergreenTree I liked the old interface better
20:21 Krock +1
20:21 CraigyDavi ...anyway apparently punbb was "lacking in some needed features"....
20:22 CraigyDavi We did not need any more features in my opinon
20:22 Krock even moderators need a fluffy sofa
20:22 PenguinDad My eyes are hurting because of that bright background
20:22 Jordach apparently post revision is more needed then anything else
20:22 Jordach even beating the need of a forum
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20:23 CraigyDavi Hmm
20:23 kaeza1 to hell with this modem
20:23 * Krock calls 666
20:23 kaeza1 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki​.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItSucks
20:24 kaeza1 see also http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwik​i.php/Main/ItsTheSameNowItSucks
20:24 Krock wow I'mon the site right now you showed s 2nd :3
20:25 Krock http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwik​i.php/Main/TheyCopiedItSoItSucks
20:26 Jordach still living in the past are we
20:26 Jordach Maximum dimensions; width: 60 pixels, height: 60 pixels, file size: 10.00 KiB.
20:26 Jordach User avatar
20:26 Jordach ShadowNinja, ^
20:27 Krock But I feel like the last poop of the anarchy list.. all other usernames are yellow or green
20:27 Krock *red or green
20:27 ShadowNinja Jordach: Later.
20:31 EvergreenTree Yeah, the new forums need work
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20:32 CraigyDavi All the bbcode does not seem to be working
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20:34 Krock CraigyDavi, now wonder... your sign: [colour=black]
20:34 Krock colOUr
20:35 CraigyDavi Where's that?
20:35 Krock sign-ature
20:35 Esteban_ Im here Craig!
20:35 CraigyDavi Ah I see
20:35 CraigyDavi Hi Esteban
20:36 playzooki hi
20:36 Esteban_ With the new forum style, it means pictures wont be visible?
20:36 Esteban_ brb in a min
20:36 PenguinDad Esteban_: I can see pictures
20:39 Krock all topic links broken
20:39 Krock aah
20:39 PenguinDad poor topic links :'(
20:39 CraigyDavi Vote!: http://strawpoll.me/1536753
20:40 Esteban_ back, @PeguinDad I meant that if some links to pictures will be broken
20:40 Esteban_ voted!
20:40 Krock already 4 votes
20:40 Krock wooo
20:40 Krock 5
20:42 JackGruff http://strawpoll.me/1536819
20:42 JackGruff this channel needs a bot to link check, btw
20:43 PenguinDad !title
20:43 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Straw Poll
20:43 PenguinDad ^ JackGruff you mean this?
20:43 JackGruff yeah. but automatic
20:43 khonkhortisan that's a silly poll
20:43 JackGruff you're a silly poll
20:43 khonkhortisan A wiki I use has rolling image outages.
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20:44 khonkhortisan it used to just work but now it doesn't
20:45 CraigyDavi I think we should have had a vote before there were any thoughts into changing the forum software. It's for the whole commnity...
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20:45 Issa2013 hello
20:45 khonkhortisan If I was one of the people that had access to the other side of the forum I might've taken part in an informal vote
20:45 Issa2013 i have just installed ubuntu14.04
20:46 khonkhortisan good for you :P
20:46 JackGruff CraigyDavi, i don't think we would be complaining if the new system just working and looked like the old one
20:46 JackGruff just worked*
20:46 Issa2013 and of course the m intest dev using ppa sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds
20:46 Issa2013 and now i m on minetest 0.4.7
20:46 Issa2013 what' is wrong please ?
20:47 JackGruff Issa2013, did you apt update? did you install the correct package?
20:47 khonkhortisan I'm on Minetest 0.4.9-173-g674be38
20:47 Issa2013 yes i m sure about this
20:47 khonkhortisan through git
20:47 Issa2013 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install minetestc55
20:47 * khonkhortisan wonders if it's called minetest now
20:48 PenguinDad Issa2013: it's minetest not minetestc55
20:48 sfan5 there is a minetestc55 pkg too
20:48 sfan5 but the 'minetest' packages supports more things
20:48 PenguinDad sfan5: but it's outdated
20:48 Issa2013 ok we need to update the ubuntu wiki
20:48 Krock before: http://www.20min.ch/diashow/96256​/96256-8V_SLeMFtK4qi4mUc_2nMg.jpg
20:49 Krock after 18 years: http://www.20min.ch/diashow/96256​/96256-GUvUDLFLvbisDdGZh501rQ.jpg
20:49 Esteban_ woa ^
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20:50 CraigyDavi Well the first one is probably photoshoped
20:50 Krock wrong.
20:50 rdococ rdococ:
20:50 Issa2013 thanks is beetter
20:50 * Jordach mastered lighting
20:50 rdococ rdococ: hi
20:50 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/dONgXPmAL9Nw.png
20:50 Issa2013 now i have Minetest 0/4/9-dev
20:50 Krock http://www.20min.ch/diashow/96256​/96256-egFdgdGhat3VG7CWIDK6vw.jpg National-Geographic-Fotograf Charles O'Rear made this photo 1996
20:50 CraigyDavi Well the first one is apparently the most viewed image in the world
20:51 Issa2013 ok now i see the fps and i have 15 fps :'(
20:51 khonkhortisan I have 19 woohoo!
20:52 CraigyDavi I have 80 :D
20:52 Krock ugh you beat me with my max. of 42 at singlenode >.<
20:52 khonkhortisan singlenode never seems to actually give me a node
20:53 CraigyDavi Only nyancats I believe
20:53 Krock the node is 64k*64k*64k normal-nodes big
20:53 * Jordach has 120fps +
20:55 Krock ye..the style is gettin' better
20:57 Jordach CraigyDavi, wasn't lying either
20:57 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/DONWUgK.png
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21:13 Miner_48er why are old urls not compatible with the updated website?
21:14 CraigyDavi They should be compatible soon.
21:15 Miner_48er ok what was the problem?
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21:15 PenguinDad Miner_48er: forum software switch
21:16 Miner_48er so would the solution be to add an alias for compatibility?
21:17 CraigyDavi It will either be a redirect or the actual format of the post links will be change backed to how it was before
21:17 PenguinDad we would need url_rewrite rules
21:18 kaeza the forum is still under mainteinance, so please be a bit patient
21:19 markveidemanis what the actual fuck
21:19 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=9090
21:19 markveidemanis no [h] support
21:19 kaeza markveidemanis, re-submit the post
21:20 markveidemanis not with this interface...
21:20 markveidemanis why???
21:20 kaeza uhh... there's an "edit" button on the top-right
21:21 CraigyDavi Headers are working now
21:22 markveidemanis I hate the interface
21:22 markveidemanis What happened to punbb
21:22 CraigyDavi "found it lacking in some needed features"
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21:51 Sokomine regarding the forum software change: how do i read *new* posts? it seems it links only to the start of the topic?
21:52 Jordach Sokomine, click that date
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21:53 Sokomine jordach: ah! thanks. i thought it was that icon at the start, but that does nothing. the date works fine
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22:15 Sokomine hmmm. did the link to topics change?
22:15 PenguinDad Sokomine: yes
22:34 Sokomine urgs
22:35 Sokomine i've linked an awful lot of postings - most of them introductions of mods, but some also about other very intresting topics - and all those bookmarks are now crap?
22:35 Sokomine er, bookmarked. but also linked in my postings
22:35 Jordach Sokomine, yarp
22:36 Sokomine whom to shoot for this?
22:36 ShadowNinja Sokomine: I made some compatability code.  I don't knwo if it's been added though.
22:37 Sokomine shadowninja: ah! that would be very very good. hope it gets added soon
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22:38 khonkhortisan My pseudocode always runs smoother than my real code
22:47 kaeza https://twitter.com/0xabad1d​ea/status/455908744296407040
22:48 kaeza also, dat background <3
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22:56 zsoltisawesome hey all
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23:06 Jordach huh
23:06 Jordach wiw
23:06 Jordach wow*
23:06 Jordach i've realised how long 240 frames is
23:07 Jordach it's like an insane time in blender, but if you think about it, it's just 10 seconds
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23:38 khonkhortisan I have a volume of (11,4,-3)(13,4,-5). I use for i in VoxelArea:iterp(pos1, pos2) do and the first thing i is set to is 11! I should switch it out for speakers that only go to 10.
23:39 khonkhortisan and the default cube is two metres cubed.
23:41 khonkhortisan That's what I get for copying code. I only copied part of it.
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23:55 khonkhortisan What's a guaranteed-invalid player name? nil isn't working for areas' version minetest.is_protected.
23:55 khonkhortisan *override of

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