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02:19 Guest93880 hi. having problems joining a client. stuck at #minetest
02:19 Guest93880 I mean media...
02:25 Guest93880 It is sitting their spitting out
02:25 Guest93880 21:23:07: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Could not load image "player_10.png" while building texture 21:23:07: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Creating a dummy image for "player_10.png" 21:23:07: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Could not load image "player_10_back.png" while building texture 21:23:07: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Creating a dummy image for "player_10_back.png" 21:23:13: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Could not load
02:25 Guest93880 well  forget me. goodbye
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05:52 kaeza https://www.facebook.com/TheComedyChan​nel/photos/a.112158545478176.14024.111​549035539127/845836305443726/?type=1
05:53 Krock kaeza died with 55 years because there was enough WiFi buttoo less water.
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06:22 Krock srsly? our old-post-digger is 47 years old? whoopsie
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07:11 JamesTait Good morning all; happy One Day Without Shoes Day! :-D
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07:28 Zeno` shoes?
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07:31 Krock System.Net.Sockets  -> System.Net.Shoes ?
07:31 * kaeza is updating to 14.04
07:32 kaeza suddenly: PC blows up :|
07:32 Krock hmm new linux version?
07:32 Krock yup linux
07:32 kaeza 'buntu
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07:34 PenguinDad hmm ... I wonder for what minetest.serialize is even used
07:34 Krock in my eyes, it's totally useless
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08:05 Krock lol http://imgur.com/gallery/D2fzZ7O
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09:53 PenguinDad https://cdn.mediacru.sh/pEeDjbgJPWdU.png lol I've found another problem with https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/251
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10:09 Mikerhinos hi
10:15 Mikerhinos today's daily seems really smooth, don't know if it's been changed or if it's changes I made on my system. Sad point is my desktop becomes real buggy when changing active window in Gnome 3 while playing : http://imgur.com/8cO5LSC
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10:18 PenguinDad abstract art desktop lol
10:19 Mikerhinos yes lol it's like a foreign language with the bad encoding lol
10:20 Mikerhinos have to reboot, it's really unusable
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10:55 Jordach pssh
10:58 PenguinDad jordach: pssh.. don't wake up the community
10:59 Jordach something's broken with player_textures
11:00 PenguinDad In which way is it broken?
11:00 Jordach my texture isn't applied
11:00 Jordach or i'm in single player :D
11:00 PenguinDad did you restart the server?
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11:04 Jordach remind me to export the character.x model myself
11:04 Zeno` how do I set my home location?
11:05 Zeno` VanessaE's mostly vanilla server
11:05 PenguinDad /sethome
11:05 Zeno` thank you
11:05 Zeno` just type that where I'm standing?
11:05 Zeno` home set!
11:06 Jordach Zeno`, yep
11:06 PenguinDad type it at the place where you want your home
11:06 Jordach i ended up having to fix it because of a sethome bug
11:06 Zeno` which is where I am now... in the middle of nowhere (how I like it)
11:06 Krock Zeno, irc://irc.inchra.net #minetest
11:06 Zeno` Krock, thanks
11:06 Krock there are all VE servers connected too
11:06 Krock *to
11:18 Jordach HOLY SHIT
11:18 Jordach !tell Taoki[laptop] that armature of yours is horrific
11:18 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when Taoki[laptop] is around
11:20 Taoki[laptop] !tell Jordach You corrected it long ago, complain then :3
11:20 MinetestBot Taoki[laptop]: yeah, sure, whatever
11:20 Taoki[laptop] Also, hi
11:20 Jordach Taoki[laptop], apparently the caped model was even worse
11:20 Taoki[laptop] I didn't make the caped one
11:20 Jordach and making it properly correct requires complete removal of the player object, recentre the CoG to the armature's root
11:22 Taoki[laptop] BBL though, semi-AFK now
11:22 Jordach (you should have used pure blender units)
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12:03 Jordach ello krocky
12:04 Krock hi
12:05 Jordach just fixing the player model *again*
12:05 Jordach MK3 player model ;P
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12:06 Krock MK3? hmm
12:07 Jordach 1st was revised bones
12:07 Jordach 2nd was a cape, third is cape and revised everything
12:08 Krock nice :)
12:09 * Krock installs VideoSpin Pinnacle
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12:14 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:14 Jordach hey PilzAdam
12:15 PenguinDad Hi PilzAdam
12:15 Krock hi the-one-with-no-head-texture
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12:18 PilzAdam VanessaE_, https://github.com/PilzAdam/farming_plus/issues
12:19 PilzAdam Krock, the cool thing is, that as the author of the player_texture mod I added it to the default skins of the mod; so every server has my skin :D
12:19 Krock Yeah, very useful IF hte server uses your mod :P
12:20 Krock anyway the most use the skin database, where yours is included too
12:20 PilzAdam wat?
12:20 PilzAdam oh damn, I released it as WTFPL
12:20 Krock your skin is at minetest.fensta.bplaced.net
12:21 Krock happens when you don't care a shitsbout your textures :P
12:21 PilzAdam Krock, https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=137855#p137855
12:21 Krock *about
12:22 Krock Ack..another useful *cough* post of that guy
12:22 * Krock ignores, closes tab.
12:27 Jordach nearly finished the blender keyframes and shit
12:28 Zeno` is the serialized data compressed?
12:28 Zeno` I guess that may use too much cpu server-side
12:28 Jordach more than likely
12:28 Zeno` hmm, ok
12:28 Jordach i know minetest schematics are compressed as zlib
12:29 Zeno` only been looking at the src code for about an hour
12:29 Zeno` I dunno why... I have enough projects as it is lol
12:30 Taoki[laptop] Jordach: Note that caped player model was rejected. If anything, clothing support for the new Minecraft skin format might be appreciated
12:30 Jordach Taoki[laptop], fuck that
12:31 Jordach i'll support all of it when 1.8 comes out
12:31 Taoki[laptop] nice
12:31 Taoki[laptop] Just saying capes were rejected last time, and I don't think anyone wants them now either. Or I dunno
12:31 Jordach Taoki[laptop], not to mention Addi's skin service notes that bad pixels in the cape area are highlighted
12:32 Taoki[laptop] Didn't know about that
12:33 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/com​mit/428a8127cb1ef91d11fe4795468f05e1c873079e
12:33 Jordach still there
12:37 PilzAdam Zeno`, yes, MapBlocks are zlib compressed when serialized
12:37 Zeno` thanks PilzAdam
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12:52 Krock lol a typo in the mod database, there's the lastest MT version 0.4.1 instead of 0.4.10
12:56 Jordach Krock, there used to be a 0.4.1
12:57 Krock but..but it's under 0.4.9 o.o
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13:15 hoodedice sfan5! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iyxB2C​OmTmmjZeqP5eYA0rrcI9-7qJ1SJp4cfV6MBI8/edit
13:15 hoodedice (halp)
13:17 PenguinDad !title
13:17 MinetestBot PenguinDad: MT-wiki-semilegalstuff - Google Docs
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13:34 Jordach ♬ put your hands up for detroit, a lovely city ♬
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13:35 reactor "You're gonna lose your mind in Detroit rock city!"
13:37 kaeza >This mod adds a currency, the MineCoins to your game with alot more features
13:38 kaeza ಠ_ಠ
13:38 reactor "MinePros and MineCons of MineCoins"
13:42 Krock coins -> minetest -> minecoins
13:42 Krock from somewhere I know that description
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13:48 kaeza Krock, >with alot more features
13:48 kaeza >alot
13:49 Krock builtin fail?
13:49 PilzAdam Id like an alot as a feature too
13:50 Krock okay, google told me right now, I forgot a space there
13:50 kaeza PilzAdam, add to Simple Mobs
13:50 kaeza :D
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13:52 * kaeza is still updating to 'buntu 14.04
13:52 PenguinDad You can fight the alot only with the power of grammar or with the stick of truth xD
13:52 kaeza >Fetching file 2484 of 2876
13:52 kaeza +at 26kB/s
13:53 PilzAdam kaeza, isnt it relased in 2 days?
13:53 kaeza yeah
13:54 PilzAdam which 'buntu?
13:54 kaeza plain 'buntu
13:54 PilzAdam plain = server or plain = ubuntu?
13:54 kaeza ubuntu desktop
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14:08 PilzAdam lol "error: 'long long long' is too long for GCC"
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14:09 HarpNetIRC|59033 HIHIHIHI!
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14:10 hoodedice hello.
14:10 HarpNetIRC|59033 its hard to guess who I am huh?
14:10 kaeza Ragnar...
14:10 HarpNetIRC|59033 http://harpnet.weebly.com
14:11 HarpNetIRC|59033 its me, Zsolt
14:11 kaeza nope
14:11 kaeza bleh
14:11 HarpNetIRC|59033 testing my IRC client
14:11 hoodedice nah
14:12 hoodedice Well, this is not#testyourIRC
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14:13 zsoltisawesome Quote from wiki: "Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed. "
14:13 zsoltisawesome excessive use?
14:13 zsoltisawesome i think not
14:13 zsoltisawesome anywho
14:14 zsoltisawesome how do I use the alpha parameter?
14:14 hoodedice By jumping off a building
14:14 * hoodedice flies away
14:15 * zsoltisawesome shoots hoodedice with a Nerf gun
14:15 rubenwardy Minetest is surprisingly popular. Or MineTest-c55, should I say. https://twitter.com/search?q=minetest
14:15 zsoltisawesome (yay for trademarks)
14:16 zsoltisawesome "easily the BEST free Minecraft clone on the internet. Hands Down." +1
14:17 hoodedice I am happy about it =D
14:17 zsoltisawesome lol, minetest-c55 hasn't posted anything since april 2012
14:18 hoodedice I'm a be make a twitter for MT now
14:18 rubenwardy damn
14:18 Krock huh? why hands down?
14:18 rubenwardy !tw @minetest
14:18 MinetestBot hi this is me (@minetest)
14:18 rubenwardy Someone reserved the name for a test
14:19 hoodedice bah
14:19 hoodedice Can we contact twitter about it?
14:20 rubenwardy Maybe
14:20 zsoltisawesome http://www.fimfiction-static.net/imag​es/story_images/152979.jpg?1387159097
14:20 rubenwardy Probably charge
14:20 hoodedice How about MinetestC55?
14:21 rubenwardy Heh
14:21 rubenwardy @mtgame
14:21 zsoltisawesome hoodedice: no longer official name
14:21 rubenwardy @MinetestCommunity
14:21 zsoltisawesome rubenwardy: good one
14:21 PenguinDad !tw @minetest-c55
14:21 kaeza !tw Minetest_C55
14:21 MinetestBot kaeza: Give me a link, a @username, or a tweet id
14:21 hoodedice ^That's nice
14:21 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Give me a link, a @username, or a tweet id
14:21 kaeza !tw @Minetest_C55
14:21 MinetestBot Can't wait for #Minetest 0.4 stable to come out :D (@Minetest_C55)
14:21 hoodedice >0.4 stable
14:21 kaeza ^
14:21 hoodedice hehe
14:21 PenguinDad the good ol times :D
14:22 zsoltisawesome almost to 0.5 stable XD
14:22 Jordach zsoltisawesome, nope.avi
14:22 kaeza zsoltisawesome, ಠ_ಠ
14:22 Jordach NOPE.AVI
14:22 zsoltisawesome Jordach: hmm
14:22 PenguinDad we need stfu.mkv :p
14:22 * Jordach is getting two of these
14:22 zsoltisawesome lol
14:22 Jordach http://www.ebuyer.com/521637-samsung-21-​5-s22c150n-led-5ms-monitor-ls22c150ns-en
14:23 kaeza zsoltisawesome, 0.4.10, 0.4.11, ..., 0.4.99, 0.4.100, ... 0.4.99999999
14:23 rubenwardy Are @ names case sensitive?
14:23 Jordach >minetest
14:23 kaeza nope
14:23 Jordach >stable
14:23 hoodedice I would think so
14:23 rubenwardy no
14:24 kaeza !tw @lkaezadl3
14:24 MinetestBot @Dinnerbone That looks interestingly similar to #minetest 's scheme for naming blocks. (@lkaezadl3)
14:24 Jordach rubenwardy, plz leave it
14:24 rubenwardy afaik
14:24 rubenwardy XD
14:24 hoodedice "we need stfu.mkv :p"
14:24 Jordach stfu.mkv
14:24 hoodedice !stfu PenguinDad
14:24 MinetestBot PenguinDad, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
14:24 * hoodedice giggles
14:25 Krock !stfu hoodedice
14:25 MinetestBot hoodedice, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
14:25 PenguinDad !tw @yourmom
14:25 MinetestBot "Modern music is a lot like candy.  Better without the rappers." - I have no clue #quote #ohsnap (@yourmom)
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14:28 zsoltisawesome lol
14:29 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: "ffmpeg -r 30 -i stfu.png -qscale 3 stfu.mkv"
14:29 zsoltisawesome http://www.fimfiction-static.net/imag​es/story_images/152979.jpg?1387159097
14:30 hoodedice rubenwardy, are you making a twitter for MT?
14:30 rubenwardy no
14:30 zsoltisawesome !tw tinymonster
14:30 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: Give me a link, a @username, or a tweet id
14:30 zsoltisawesome derp
14:30 zsoltisawesome IDR MinetestBot
14:31 rubenwardy !tw @rubenwardy
14:31 MinetestBot @roguejedi79 Sorry for the delay, you may have noticed this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/tsvjmob​v9n3isu0/food_crafting.pdf?token_hash=AAHSF​YX_hgjdN2VyGtP8JtUwnCD2PFUcIDDkpzlIZvXOig (@rubenwardy)
14:32 hoodedice Should I make one?
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14:33 rubenwardy If you want to
14:34 hoodedice Yaay
14:34 hoodedice I will, as soon as I finish with that statement
14:34 hoodedice It's going on the minetest wiki
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14:36 rubenwardy I have access to minetest.net, but there would need to be a lot of negociating/debating about it in #minetest-dev about putting it on minetest.net. The wiki is a better place, especially for the editing side (only 7ish people have access to minetest.net)
14:37 hoodedice eh, it won't look good on the main site
14:38 hoodedice Put it on the wiki
14:38 hoodedice Politics is needed, but not wanted. Stay as far away from it as possible.
14:38 rubenwardy yeah
14:39 zsoltisawesome +1
14:46 PilzAdam lolwat http://c55.me/blog/?p=1572#comment-165220
14:47 rubenwardy gameprogrammingpatterns.com is awesome
14:51 rubenwardy This thread is hilarious, PilzAdam. https://forum.minetest.net​/viewtopic.php?pid=137670
14:51 rubenwardy (Air Sword)
14:52 rubenwardy !tw @rubenwardy
14:52 MinetestBot Who knew pranks could be so fun? #Minetest #AirSword https://forum.minetest.net​/viewtopic.php?pid=137670 (@rubenwardy)
14:53 hoodedice Ruben, thanks A LOT for that link
14:53 rubenwardy You are welcome
14:53 hoodedice I'm gonna bookmark that website,and I'm gonna read it, and use it
14:53 hoodedice And stuff
14:54 hoodedice I got that Air sword joke now
14:54 hoodedice Fudge, I am slow
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14:55 hoodedice I overlooked this "it will automagically have all the code needed."
14:57 zsoltisawesome airsword? who would like a real air sword?
14:57 crazyR is there a way for me to pass 2 parameters to a function thats called from the minetest.after
14:57 kaeza crazyR, minetest.after(1, function(foo, bar) ... end, foo, bar)
14:58 kaeza (better store the function in a local to make it more readable)
14:58 rubenwardy crazyR: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/10739387
14:58 rubenwardy oh
14:59 rubenwardy kaeza's way it better :P
14:59 kaeza or use minetest.after(1, function() foobar(foo, bar) end) -- Note the difference
14:59 kaeza ^ similar to what rubenwardy said
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15:10 zsoltisawesome YaY!
15:10 zsoltisawesome Compressed Air is done
15:10 zsoltisawesome now to make air stuff!
15:10 zsoltisawesome like real air stuff
15:10 hoodedice MinetestBot!
15:10 MinetestBot hoodedice!
15:11 hoodedice !tell RealBadAngelP: See this: http://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/flyweight.html Do we have something like this in minetest_engine?
15:11 MinetestBot hoodedice: Do not put an : at the end of nickname
15:11 hoodedice Sorry, MinetestBot
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15:11 hoodedice ShadowNinja: http://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/flyweight.html Do we have something like this in minetest_engine?
15:12 hoodedice bbl
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15:13 rubenwardy !tell hoodediceI think Irrlicht does that, hoodedice
15:13 MinetestBot rubenwardy: yeah, yeah
15:13 rubenwardy !tell hoodedice I think Irrlicht does that, hoodedice
15:13 MinetestBot rubenwardy: yeah, sure, whatever
15:13 rubenwardy Laid back MinetestBot
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15:14 rubenwardy !sudo tell hoodedice I think Irrlicht does that, hoodedice
15:14 rubenwardy XD
15:15 hoodediceI lol
15:17 PenguinDad wtf? there are 21:9 monitors
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15:22 hoodedice So I was making a twitter account for the minetest community
15:23 hoodedice And I need to make YAGA (Yet another GMail Account)
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15:30 Jordach lol
15:31 Jordach media player's main thread is dead, yet the lame decoder hasn't
15:31 hoodedice ?
15:31 * Krock added 3 commits to minetest_next fork...
15:32 ShadowNinja Re: twitter account: This seems like the appropriate form: https://support.twitter.com/forms/trademark
15:32 hoodedice Do we have any feedback@minetest.net?
15:32 hoodedice Is Minetest even a registered trademark?
15:33 hoodedice *cough* Minetest(tm)(R) 2010-1024, All Rights LGPL v2.0
15:33 ShadowNinja Or this rather: https://support.twitter.com/forms/impersonation
15:34 ShadowNinja I don't think it's registered. I'll ask C55.
15:34 * rubenwardy likes box modelling
15:34 hoodedice Meh, Both the forms require that the complainant be a part of an established company
15:35 hoodedice ShadowNinja: "Twitter users are allowed to create parody, commentary, or fan accounts. "
15:36 hoodedice I'll just make @MinetestCommunity
15:37 hoodedice Hey, how about @OfficialMinetest?
15:37 hoodedice hehe
15:37 rubenwardy @Minetest_Offical
15:37 hoodedice Do we really want that?
15:37 hoodedice @MinetestCommunity sounds better
15:38 hoodedice We can post screenies, mod highlights, etc. Stuff we can't do with official
15:38 ShadowNinja hoodedice: Company or organization.
15:38 hoodedice We can't go for impersonation. Have to go for trademarks.
15:38 Krock I've tried to create a pull request on github for minetest_next but when I try to pull a single commit (with edit "head fork | compare: master" to <commit>), then my pull request button disappears because the page reloads when I enter the commit number. Any help?
15:39 hoodedice Or maybe just send them a mail sayin that we want that account because it is dead.
15:40 ShadowNinja hoodedice: Minetest isn't a requstered trademark.
15:41 hoodedice Can't use it because twitter is not currently releasing inactive usernames, and can't go for trademark, and also can't go for impersonation because fair rights
15:41 hoodedice I'll just make a new one.
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15:44 kaeza woo! "only" 173 files remaining \o/
15:44 PenguinDad kaeza: I know that feeling bro
15:45 Jordach my living area has fibre under evaluation, eg, next year we'll be on Fibre
15:45 zsoltisawesome what the hell is fibre
15:46 Jordach 25mb+ internet speeds
15:46 harrison it is liker "fiber" except more european and trendy
15:46 zsoltisawesome fucking british english
15:46 zsoltisawesome FIBERRrRRRR
15:46 kaeza zsoltisawesome, language
15:46 harrison your language too leaves something to be desired zsoltisawesome
15:46 Jordach /kick zsoltisawesome racism
15:47 kaeza TIL british is a race
15:47 Jordach don't piss the brit operator
15:47 Jordach (off*)
15:47 hoodedice And me
15:47 hoodedice I use Brit English
15:47 harrison no, british is a religion i thought
15:47 Jordach you're from the persian area, you don't count
15:47 PilzAdam Jordach, racism?
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15:47 hoodedice zwiz off mate, don't diss the brits here
15:47 PilzAdam do you even know what that word means?
15:47 hoodedice It means believing in race
15:47 hoodedice racism
15:48 zsoltisawesome lol
15:48 Jordach alrighty german
15:48 hoodedice !stfu Everyone
15:48 MinetestBot Everyone, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
15:48 zsoltisawesome lol
15:48 harrison race is sociologically constructed and hence an invalid concept therefore to speak of "race" is racist
15:48 harrison what are you a h8r?
15:49 zsoltisawesome !stfu MinetestBot
15:49 MinetestBot MinetestBot, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
15:49 zsoltisawesome lol
15:49 hoodedice Also, *colour.
15:49 Jordach yes
15:49 Jordach YES
15:49 hoodedice Owait.
15:49 zsoltisawesome that is the only british english word I agree with
15:49 hoodedice > persian area
15:49 hoodedice wtf?
15:49 hoodedice Do you even?
15:49 * kaeza slaps hoodedice for wasting bandwidth sending the 'u's in armour, colour, ...
15:50 zsoltisawesome lol
15:50 * hoodedice slaps kaeza for saying skedual, when it is obviously schedule with a zwizzing silent c
15:50 hoodedice "skedual" n00bs.
15:50 PenguinDad we need colored mustache armor
15:50 zsoltisawesome wasting 1 byte of bandwidth isn't all that bad
15:51 * kaeza slaps PenguinDad for not wasting bandwidth sending the 'o's in moustache
15:51 * hoodedice slaps kaeza because SLAP PARTY!!!
15:52 hoodedice *tumbleweed*
15:52 Jordach dem bytes
15:52 hoodedice Okay everyone
15:52 hoodedice We have a community.minetest@gmail.com
15:53 hoodedice Shared with well known, responsible, Minetest Community members. This account will be used to sign into @MinetestCommunity
15:54 hoodedice And also create Docs
15:55 hoodedice And subscribe to nigahiga on YouTube. Just because. JK.
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15:56 hoodedice Umm, @MinetestCommunity is too long(?)
15:58 Calinou PilzAdam, do you know what makes Simple Mobs slow? is it the entities themselves, or the fact they move while idling?
15:59 Calinou <Jordach> my living area has fibre under evaluation, eg, next year we'll be on Fibre
15:59 hoodedice rubenwardy!
15:59 Calinou my city says the exact same thing since December 8)
15:59 PilzAdam Calinou, good question; I guess it would help to make them not move when idle
15:59 rubenwardy Hi!
15:59 reactor What? SimpleMobs overload servers?
15:59 hoodedice "@MinetestCommunity is too long"
15:59 Calinou hey, soon I may have 100× (more in upload) faster Internet
15:59 Calinou PilzAdam, I thought of doing that
15:59 Calinou I may include less annoying mobs in Carbone ;)
15:59 rubenwardy @MinetestCum?
15:59 PenguinDad *soon™
15:59 Calinou hoodedice, MT-Community
15:59 Calinou rubenwardy, lol
15:59 hoodedice *pfft* BAHAHAAH
15:59 hoodedice Nice one Calinou
16:00 Calinou that's shorter
16:00 Calinou rubenwardy is the one you should laugh at
16:00 Calinou ;)
16:00 PilzAdam Calinou, I would rather spell out "Minetest" instead of "Community"
16:00 hoodedice I was laughing at ruben
16:01 hoodedice @ruben: "*pfft* BAHAHAAH"
16:01 rubenwardy @MinetestCommune
16:01 hoodedice ^Hmm, sounds okay
16:01 hoodedice Since MT_Community and similar are unavailable
16:02 rubenwardy @MTITBYSFTTA
16:02 sfan5 meow
16:02 rubenwardy MineTest Is The Best, You Should Follow This Twitter Account
16:03 sfan5 no
16:03 sfan5 no
16:03 sfan5 no
16:03 sfan5 no
16:03 hoodedice How about @TheRealMT
16:03 sfan5 not MineTest
16:03 hoodedice !kick sfan5 *flood*
16:03 sfan5 it's Minetest
16:03 rubenwardy the 'T' in MineTest was to show that it is in the acronym
16:04 * kaeza slaps rubenwardy for wasting bandwidth sending uppercase letters
16:04 kaeza rule of three
16:04 * kaeza flies away
16:04 * hoodedice slaps kaeza in mid air
16:04 PenguinDad !c 'C' > 'c'
16:04 MinetestBot False
16:04 Calinou NP = P
16:05 hoodedice http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2011060902​4742/dragonball/images/6/66/Broly_Vs_Goku.jpg
16:05 hoodedice !c 'hoodedice' > 'awesome'
16:05 MinetestBot True
16:05 hoodedice @MinetestCommune it is!
16:06 PenguinDad !c 'Minetest' > 'easy'
16:06 MinetestBot False
16:06 rubenwardy !c 'Poo' > 'PilzAdam;
16:06 MinetestBot SyntaxError: EOL while scanning string literal (<string>, line 1)
16:06 rubenwardy !c 'Poo' > 'PilzAdam'
16:06 rubenwardy !c 'Poo' > 'PilzAdam'
16:06 MinetestBot True
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16:07 hoodedice !c 'Minetest' > 'Minecraft'
16:07 MinetestBot True
16:07 hoodedice YESH!
16:07 hoodedice !c 'Windows 8' > 'Windows 7'
16:07 MinetestBot True
16:07 hoodedice YESH!
16:08 PenguinDad !c 'Linux' > 'Windows'
16:08 MinetestBot False
16:08 PenguinDad :(
16:08 Krock srsly? my CPU is just 29°C cold?
16:08 hoodedice ruben, check twitter
16:09 rubenwardy Damn you, kaeza
16:10 kaeza :D
16:10 kaeza bbs; It's installing!
16:10 crazyR is there any reason why the technic drills and lazers would be able to dig un_breakable nodes
16:10 hoodedice Anyone here on twitter?
16:11 hoodedice nvm, I managed to skip the annoying tutorial
16:12 Krock crazyR, it digs every nod
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16:12 Krock e
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16:13 * Krock should open a twittler account and write "afk" "brb" and "gonna sleep" in it
16:13 hoodedice ok have to go in a bit
16:14 hoodedice First tweet first
16:14 rubenwardy D: https://twitter.com/PilzAdam
16:14 Krock omg 1 follower
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16:14 PilzAdam rubenwardy, not me
16:14 crazyR is there away to make a group that can only be dug by an admin tool
16:14 crazyR i thought unbreakable did that
16:15 Krock http://www.locopengu.com/ima​ges/media/750xauto/ZBSKY.png
16:16 Calinou Core 0:         +23.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +98.0°C)
16:16 Calinou I beat you, Krock
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16:16 Krock And core 1?
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16:16 Krock that gets amultiplicated
16:16 Krock :P
16:16 Calinou http://0bin.net/paste/xLYfiNu3pCMRYLCI#LAt​9U7n5RjW597cFXtYDWXgNvwI3ZHWa/I4bIWGY3Hc=
16:18 Krock CPU     17 °C  (63 °F)
16:18 Krock what??
16:18 Krock it's gonna freeze now
16:18 Krock or sensor's broken
16:19 zsoltisawesome http://goo.gl/SVtC9j
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16:19 kaeza >Removing unity-common ...
16:19 Krock lol self destructing pastes?
16:19 kaeza there's no better feeling than to see Unity burn in the flames of hell
16:19 zsoltisawesome Krock: yep
16:20 Krock cool. gonna copy the text and share it on twitler and facebook
16:20 * Krock == afk * -> true
16:20 Calinou sensors are inaccurate at low temperatures, Krock :)
16:20 ShadowNinja us`0gb: Yes, Freeminer is an engine fork.  And it's kind of awkward for freeminer mods to use the minetest table.
16:20 hoodedice Calinou, using your BGs for the twitter acc
16:20 zsoltisawesome Did you mean: Unity (Game Engine) or Unity (Graphical Interface)?
16:20 hoodedice bbl
16:20 Calinou hoodedice, :D
16:21 Calinou zsoltisawesome, graphical interface here
16:21 Calinou the game engine is not packaged anywhere
16:21 zsoltisawesome ah
16:21 Calinou zsoltisawesome, if you're using 0bin, it's best not to shorten the link as it kind of breaks the purpose :P
16:21 zsoltisawesome meh
16:21 Calinou (they are short enough to be pasted here)
16:22 us`0gb ShadowNinja: Hmm. I suppose intercompatibility combined with that specific name is awkward ...
16:22 zsoltisawesome Calinou: http://www.fimfiction-static.net/imag​es/story_images/152979.jpg?1387159097
16:22 rubenwardy hoodedice: logo
16:23 sfan5 lol
16:23 sfan5 rubenwardy: what do you need?
16:23 zsoltisawesome us`0gb!
16:23 rubenwardy I am telling him to put the Minetest logo on http://twitter.com/MinetestCommune
16:24 Calinou "fimfiction" no thanks
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16:24 Calinou (what's that image?)
16:24 us`0gb Hey zsoltisawesome!
16:24 zsoltisawesome Twilight Meme
16:24 zsoltisawesome us`0gb: Hey!
16:25 Everyone joined #minetest
16:25 zsoltisawesome Everyone: http://harpnet.comuv.com
16:26 zsoltisawesome he served his purpose
16:26 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/1gRemuJWDgqY.png
16:26 sfan5 rubenwardy: how did you make that page be so awesome?
16:26 Jordach nice and cool
16:29 Calinou 3260rpm CPU fan?
16:29 Calinou mine is about 600rpm, sometimes even less
16:29 Calinou (minimal allowed by motherboard)
16:30 zsoltisawesome ICICLES!
16:30 Calinou zsoltisawesome, http://www.fimfiction-static.net​/images/story_images/152979.jpg ← is how I feel when crafting books and bookshelves in Minetest
16:30 rubenwardy stop linking that image!
16:30 zsoltisawesome nevar!
16:30 zsoltisawesome Calinou: LOL
16:31 zsoltisawesome rubenwardy: your opinion https://derpicdn.net/img/2012/10/7/116628/full.jpg
16:32 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_fdwRDXcsmQT.png
16:32 Jordach /kick zsoltisawesome quit it or i'll start cloppin'
16:32 rubenwardy MLP is for bronies
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16:32 zsoltisawesome rubenwardy: no shit
16:32 Jordach don't think i *won't* go that far
16:33 Jordach Calinou, 3400RPM max
16:33 zsoltisawesome Calinou: http://derpicdn.net/media/W1siZiIsIjIw​MTIvMDgvMDEvMTBfMDVfMDlfMzIwXzYzODkwX1​9zYWZlX3JlYWQiXV0/63890__safe_twilight​%2Bsparkle_poster_propaganda_read.jpg
16:34 crazyR does anyone know how i would make a node that can not be dug by anything other than an admin pick
16:34 Krock Jordach, don't miss the windows button on bottom left? 0.0
16:34 Jordach Krock, nope
16:34 Jordach i don't even notice
16:34 Krock lol ok
16:34 Jordach (i never used it as most things are either desktop, taskbar or steam)
16:36 zsoltisawesome Jordach: http://cdn10.mixrmedia.com/wp-uploads​/ziggytek/blog/2011/09/windows-8-will​-probably-suck-4150-1317141475-7.jpg
16:37 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8143761920/h1AE3BD91/
16:37 Krock Jordach, there's a bugged bubble on your desktop. It doesn't disappear even if it's above the water
16:38 zsoltisawesome LOL
16:38 zsoltisawesome i just noticed that too
16:39 Krock What? I though Win 95 was a success
16:39 zsoltisawesome it was ok, wasn't the greatest, was a tad unstable
16:39 zsoltisawesome btw http://i.imgur.com/yxSyt.jpg
16:39 * Krock rfers to the presentation of USB at windows 98
16:39 * Krock remembers the BSoD with bill gates
16:40 Krock omg, zsoltisawesome, they removed the title bar and copied it
16:41 zsoltisawesome Ya!
16:41 zsoltisawesome XD
16:41 Krock and we leveled down to the kid mode
16:41 zsoltisawesome http://www.eightforums.com/attachments/windows-​8-news/7032d1340412318-hey-windows-8-doesn-t-su​ck-padd-tablet-ipad-surface_imgur_610x269.jpg
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16:43 Calinou <rubenwardy> MLP is for bronies
16:43 Calinou who else would it be for? ;)
16:43 rubenwardy fact: MLP is for bronies
16:43 rubenwardy fact: rubenwardy is not a brony
16:43 rubenwardy question: does rubenwardy like MLP?
16:44 Jordach ohai ShadowNinja
16:45 zsoltisawesome rubenwardy: yes, yes he does
16:45 ShadowNinja Hello.
16:46 PilzAdam rubenwardy, ofc he does
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16:47 zsoltisawesome Jordach: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TWV_4RpG9Lo/TVAOkX_-JjI/​AAAAAAAAAeU/GQsXV7-NoZE/s1600/linux-vs-windows.jpg
16:47 ShadowNinja markveidemanis: I'd recommend SASL, CertFP, or a join delay.
16:47 markveidemanis Hi
16:48 Krock hi.
16:48 markveidemanis I think I enabled SSL
16:48 zsoltisawesome we suck more and that's guarenteed
16:48 zsoltisawesome sais the image
16:48 Krock markveidemanis: - is using a secure connection (markveidemanis)
16:48 Calinou markveidemanis, SSL is not SASL
16:48 Calinou Krock, ^
16:49 Calinou you can (and should :P) use both at the same time
16:49 Krock ok.
16:49 Calinou SASL lets you identify before you even join
16:49 zsoltisawesome YUMMY FOOD!
16:49 Calinou more secure, more instant
16:49 Calinou zsoltisawesome, is what Pinkie Pie says all day, when eating Minetest apples and bread
16:49 rubenwardy zsoltisawesome: I like food
16:52 markveidemanis ...
16:52 markveidemanis I...Don't have SASL
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16:53 zsoltisawesome http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-stqRvZtOQiQ/T8Qfol4sKMI/​AAAAAAAAkgo/8XdhdgtCpsQ/s1600/560-linux-large.jpg
16:53 * Jordach mashes up audio driven shaders, hopes for ray tracing
16:54 zsoltisawesome http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/150​/f/2011/318/d/d/pinkie_pie___nom_no​m_by_cptofthefriendship-d4g64i9.png
16:55 Calinou looks like you eating
16:55 Calinou markveidemanis, HexChat supports SASL natively ;)
16:55 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/oD4mFjgVNT4X.png
16:55 Calinou Ctrl+S (server list), Edit, then you an choose authentication method there
16:55 Calinou that's all you have to do
16:55 Calinou (restart HexChat after editing)
16:56 Calinou <rubenwardy> zsoltisawesome: I like food
16:56 Calinou we guessed it, thanks to your mods ;)
16:56 rubenwardy XD
16:56 Calinou I like blocks!
16:58 rubenwardy Lol
16:58 rubenwardy sf4n5 likes blowing things up
16:59 rubenwardy ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=638 )
16:59 * Jordach can blow people up using pure bass
16:59 SylvieLorxu Jordach: Ah, Winamp, good old days. I should enable ProjectM visualisation in Clementine :P
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17:00 }u{ Can't Touch This!
17:00 Jordach SylvieLorxu, stable provided i don't break AVS like i normally do
17:00 us`0gb HexChat does support SASL natively ... But depending on what you are doing, you need to exploit a glitch to actually use it. A glitch that may have been repaired by now.
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17:00 us`0gb By the way, I love that penguin cleaner image!
17:00 }u{ thanks
17:01 SylvieLorxu lol, it can't properly visualize any dubstep :P
17:01 }u{ }u{ == zsoltisawesome
17:01 Jordach SylvieLorxu, i can almost raytrace, but it breaks often and crashes the main thread, leaving the mp3 decoder going forever (plays fine, but no controls)
17:02 }u{ zsoltisawesome_: dafaq man
17:02 zsoltisawesome_ :3
17:02 us`0gb By the time HexChat makes it into Debian Stable, I likely won#'t be able to make use of SASL as the glitch will be fixed.
17:03 }u{ BLARG
17:03 SylvieLorxu And Clementine crashed...
17:03 Jordach i do love a bit (too?) much audio processing https://cdn.mediacru.sh/JJPMsIOLDUwL.png
17:03 SylvieLorxu Triskel is so much worse than Trisquel :(
17:03 us`0gb I'm not a fan of KDE either.
17:03 SylvieLorxu We still lack a good libre KDE distro...
17:03 SylvieLorxu No, it's not KDE's fault
17:04 us`0gb Debian KDE edition.
17:04 SylvieLorxu It's that Triskel is based on Kubuntu
17:04 SylvieLorxu And Kubuntu is a mess
17:04 }u{ DUNDUNDUNdun
17:04 SylvieLorxu Jordach: I can't believe your music sounds even remotely as the artist intended
17:04 * SylvieLorxu is listening to Renard - RT IF YOU REMEMBER THE 80s [FULL TECHNO JACKASS] {1:07}
17:04 SylvieLorxu x3
17:05 us`0gb I haven't tried Debian KDE edition, but Debian Xfce edition is pretty sweet.
17:05 SylvieLorxu I ran KDE on Debian
17:05 SylvieLorxu It is so amazingly unstable there
17:05 SylvieLorxu But here on Triskel it's amazingly outdated
17:05 SylvieLorxu Which is equally annoying
17:06 us`0gb Hmm. Yeah, back when I was on Trisquel, I used a PPA to update the desktop. Maybe that would work for you and KDE?
17:06 SylvieLorxu Not sure which PPA I need
17:06 us`0gb Searching ...
17:07 }u{ L1ke!
17:07 SylvieLorxu I wanted to try KDE Plasma Next ( http://dot.kde.org/2014/04/02/kde-release​s-alpha-version-next-gen-plasma-workspace ) but I'll like any semi-recent version
17:08 SylvieLorxu I wonder how old KDE 4.8.5 is, hmm
17:08 us`0gb SylvieLorxu: I think it's this one, but I don't know KDE well enough to know for sure: <https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/ppa>
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17:09 * Jordach tries to render 16k
17:09 us`0gb I don't see any by the official KDE people or the Kubuntu people.
17:09 SylvieLorxu us`0gb: Telepathy is only the system that lets applications share stuff with other applications :P
17:09 SylvieLorxu But I'll look around launchpad
17:10 us`0gb Hmm. That's not it then. My bad.
17:10 us`0gb That's the only PPA that's coming up in my search results too.
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17:11 Jordach we can do this
17:11 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/1Rp0Vu_Vtjiq.png
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17:12 us`0gb SylvieLorxu: Maybe <https://launchpad.net/~kubu​ntu-ppa/+archive/backports>? "Backports of new versions of KDE and major KDE apps for Kubuntu which are either too large a change or not yet tested enough to go to Ubuntu Backports."
17:12 SylvieLorxu us`0gb: That sounds good
17:13 us`0gb SylvieLorxu: This one is stabler, I think: <https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa>.
17:14 SylvieLorxu Hmm...
17:14 SylvieLorxu I think I'll go with the slightly newer first :P
17:14 us`0gb Okay, cool. Good luck!
17:15 SylvieLorxu 249 updates, heh
17:15 SylvieLorxu This may take a bit :P
17:15 SylvieLorxu Thanks
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17:17 }u{ Who is the german here?
17:18 Jordach PilzAdam
17:19 * PilzAdam
17:19 PilzAdam }u{, why do you ask?
17:20 }u{ i need you to unmangle a poorly translated paragraph
17:20 }u{ "The Free SDK to Commercial agreement levy's a 20% flat royalty on all monies received for development (using the Free SDK) i.e.: Investments, Crowd Sourced Funding / Kickstarter, donations etc. Once the title is commercially released, 20% flat royalties are placed on gross receipts."
17:21 PilzAdam is that Minetest related?
17:21 }u{ i mean, "monies"?
17:21 }u{ PilzAdam: you don't have commercial licences, do you
17:21 rubenwardy "monies" is plural of money
17:22 rubenwardy more than one money
17:22 PilzAdam }u{, I dont see how this belongs in this channel
17:22 rubenwardy two monies
17:22 PenguinDad many rich
17:22 }u{ sounds australian
17:23 Jordach btw, who thinks W8 is bloated?
17:23 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/IjN1q0KNIicH.png <- gtfo :P
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17:27 us`0gb I think Windows XP is bloated. Windows 8 of course is far more bloated.
17:28 markveidemanis joined #minetest
17:28 markveidemanis okay done
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17:30 rubenwardy Windows 8 boots faster
17:31 rubenwardy But then it never really shuts down
17:33 PenguinDad rubenwardy: that's why it boots faster
17:33 }u{ us`0gb: Windows 8 or 8.1?
17:34 rubenwardy Just had a mouth orgasm
17:34 }u{ lol
17:34 }u{ a mouthgasm
17:34 rubenwardy Haven't eaten in roughly 5 hourse, and just took a bit
17:34 rubenwardy *bite
17:35 rubenwardy #CoolStoryBro
17:35 }u{ #minetest
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17:38 us`0gb }u{: Both.
17:38 Jordach us`0gb, define small
17:39 us`0gb I never said anything about small. What do you mean?
17:39 us`0gb Small is not large.
17:39 Jordach you consider one of the best OS'es ever made large
17:39 us`0gb Large is different than bloated.
17:40 us`0gb Bloat is slow for no good reason. It's large, but unoptimized. Large may be optimized, if not bloated.
17:41 us`0gb Also, my OS doesn't need a DVD to contain it. I'm almost certain Windows does.
17:41 * reactor grabs some popcorn.
17:41 reactor Your opinion on BSD?
17:42 }u{ us`0gb: 8.1 fixes alot of the bloat
17:42 us`0gb Mine? I don't have much of one. It's mostly-free, so that's good. OpenBSD in particular is very secure. It's not for newbies.
17:43 us`0gb }u{: Does it? If so, I withdraw my statement.
17:43 }u{ Yes, but, of course, It is Windows, so it will have a bit of bloat
17:43 us`0gb To be honest though, I've never gotten a working BSD desktop installation, so it's hard for me to know what to say about it.
17:44 }u{ #dafaq
17:44 }u{ yay! I own that channel now!
17:45 us`0gb I used to own # on InchraNet. But it was confiscated.
17:45 * us`0gb glances at ShadowNinja
17:46 }u{ fun
17:46 sfan5 rubenwardy: who owns the minetest twitter account that was created today?
17:46 ShadowNinja us`0gb: Hmmm, you can have it if you're going to use it.
17:46 rubenwardy Hoodedice
17:46 us`0gb ShadowNinja: I was joking more than anything.
17:46 us`0gb I was going to set the topic to be the same as # on Freenode was.
17:47 }u{ # on freenode is invite only
17:47 }u{ ##
17:47 us`0gb But InchraNet isn't popular enough to have people accidentally falling into # , so no one would know.
17:47 }u{ ###
17:49 }u{ lol, #hashtag
17:50 us`0gb What are hash tags even for?
17:50 kaeza }u{, fun fact: you can use /join ### without needing to spam the channel
17:51 }u{ i know
17:51 }u{ i was getting the message out
17:51 }u{ Krock: #hashtag#
17:51 Krock hmm?
17:51 kaeza (another fun fact: ']' is the lowercase version of '}', according to IRC RFC)
17:51 kaeza ]u[
17:52 Krock #joinme
17:53 Krock #you_area_too_slow_to_join
17:53 kaeza update almost complete
17:53 kaeza yay
17:53 rubenwardy lol, kaeza
17:53 rubenwardy D:
17:54 }u{ #kaeza
17:54 }u{ NOMNOMNOM, MINE!
17:54 kaeza rubenwardy, It's updating since around 5:00; it's almost 15:00 ·_·
17:54 rubenwardy <kaeza> (another fun fact: ']' is the lowercase version of '}', according to IRC RFC)
17:55 kaeza oh that :P
17:55 rubenwardy Ubuntu is fun!
17:55 Calinou <}u{> # on freenode is invite only
17:55 Calinou supposedly ;)
17:55 }u{ it wont let me join...
17:55 PenguinDad Krock: I found a use for minetest.serialize https://bitbucket.org/PenguinDad/freeze/commits​/2e681ac74c7a6ed12d380244a903e6b48a062086#Linit.luaT26
17:55 Calinou rubenwardy, Fedora may be fun too ;)
17:56 }u{ oh Calinou: #face#face#
17:56 }u{ #Krock
17:56 Krock PenguinDad:
17:56 reactor #face#palm#
17:56 * Krock headdesks
17:56 }u{ LOL
17:56 }u{ #head#desk#
17:56 kaeza rebooting... wish me luck
17:57 sfan5 PenguinDad: using a copy function is way faster
17:57 }u{ #}u{
17:57 us`0gb kaeza: TRhat's actually why I don't have us]0gb, us[0gb, us\0gb, and us<something I forget>0gb registered.
17:58 reactor ц5`0дь
17:58 }u{ #ц5`0дь
17:58 us`0gb And us~0gb is blocked because ~ is a special character, even though it's the lower case equivalent of ^.
17:59 }u{ #MinetestBot
17:59 reactor
17:59 }u{ sfan5: make minetestbot join #minetestbot on boot!
18:00 }u{ #away
18:00 sfan5 }u{: it does
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18:00 }u{ umm
18:00 }u{ its not there
18:00 reactor #дождь
18:00 Krock reactor: - Sie sind nun in #????? LOL
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18:01 }u{ #/nick
18:01 sfan5 umm
18:01 Krock it's not accepting the cpecial chars
18:01 Krock *special
18:01 sfan5 }u{: it's ##minetestbot not #minetestbot
18:01 reactor Krock: #бнопня
18:01 PenguinDad /join #home
18:01 }u{ sfan5: LOL
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18:01 rubenwardy #home is an invite only channel
18:02 }u{ ./join #theclub
18:02 }u{ XD
18:03 }u{ #ihatespaces
18:04 reactor You have space?
18:04 reactor hate*
18:04 }u{ I do have space :P
18:05 reactor Gimme some.
18:05 }u{ OK, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020, U+0020
18:05 }u{ :P
18:05 rubenwardy Suggestion: another mod manager which enables mods to be shown in the main mod manager
18:06 Krock amazing idea
18:06 us{0gb &#160;
18:06 rubenwardy another mod manager which enables mods to be shown in mod manager which enables mods to be shown in the main mod manager
18:06 Krock better.
18:06 rubenwardy another mod manager which enables mods to be shown in the mod manager which enables mods to be shown in the mod manager which enables mods to be shown in the main mod manager
18:07 rubenwardy oh dear
18:07 Krock YMMD
18:07 Krock :D
18:07 }u{ reactor:
18:08 }u{ !c 'russia' > 'usa'
18:08 MinetestBot False
18:08 }u{ :P
18:08 rubenwardy !tw @rubenwardy
18:08 MinetestBot .@MinetestCommune Suggestion: another mod manager which enables mods to be shown in the main mod manager #Minetest #Pointless (@rubenwardy)
18:08 rubenwardy XD
18:08 }u{ "Topic for #pointless is: Almost anything and everything that is on point. "
18:08 Krock haha
18:08 us{0gb How about if we only use one mod manager, but it's recursive?
18:08 rubenwardy What?
18:08 }u{ Recursive like PHP?
18:09 Krock how about we use a mod manager which allows to enable all _not_ installed mods?
18:09 us{0gb Yeah.
18:09 us{0gb How?
18:09 reactor }u{: in a KOI-7 terminal in wrong mode, your name in would be shown as "ЪуХ"
18:10 }u{ byx!
18:10 }u{ #byx
18:10 reactor {u} would be "ХуЪ"
18:10 rubenwardy Guess what guys?
18:10 reactor Potato.
18:10 us{0gb What guys?
18:11 rubenwardy ANOTHER FOOD MOD IS COMING!
18:11 rubenwardy ^ that looks weird on my screen
18:11 khonkhortisan Was there a special function to check land ownership across multiple mods?
18:11 }u{ !c 700 * 'what the fuck '
18:11 MinetestBot 'what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what
18:11 reactor rubenwardy: анотхер фоод мод ис цоминг!
18:12 }u{ what...
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18:12 rubenwardy reactor: Да тоа е!
18:12 }u{ hello restcoser! long time no see
18:12 Krock !c 666 * 'lol'
18:12 MinetestBot 'lollollollollollollollollollollollollollollol​lollollollollollollollollollollollollollolloll​ollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollo​llollollollollollollollollollollollollollollol​lollollollollollollollollollollollollollolloll​ollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollo​llollollollollollollollollollollollollollollol​lollollollollollollollollollollollollollolloll​ollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollo​llollollollollollollollollollollollollo
18:12 Krock AWESOME
18:12 crazyR im curious... how does a player without travelnet_attach priv craft and place travelnets
18:12 reactor !c -1 * 'щ'
18:12 MinetestBot ''
18:13 reactor !c -16384 * 'щ'
18:13 MinetestBot ''
18:13 Krock crazyR, that does not disallow from placing
18:13 reactor !c 65535 * ''
18:13 MinetestBot ''
18:13 us{0gb If the owning module is written correctly, use mine test.is_protected(), I think.
18:13 Krock it's just a priv for mods to configure other's travelnet
18:13 reactor !c 0 * 'Ъ'
18:13 MinetestBot ''
18:13 }u{ !c ""!c 700 * 'what the fuck'
18:13 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
18:13 reactor !c 1 * 'Ъ'
18:13 MinetestBot ''
18:13 Krock !c -1 '1'
18:13 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
18:13 us{0gb *minetest
18:13 reactor !c 1 * 'unicode'
18:13 MinetestBot 'unicode'
18:13 Krock !c -1 * '1'
18:13 MinetestBot ...
18:13 Krock LOL
18:13 rubenwardy Join my mailing list, Krock: http://tinyurl.com/2fcpre6
18:13 reactor !c 65535 * 'Ъ'
18:13 MinetestBot ''
18:14 }u{ !c 'lol' * 'cheeseburgers'
18:14 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'str'
18:14 crazyR hmm i need to stop players from creating travelnets. without blocking admins from doing so.
18:14 Krock rubenwardy, joined.
18:14 rubenwardy Okay
18:14 reactor !c 18446744073709551616 * 'Ъ'
18:14 MinetestBot OverflowError: cannot fit 'long' into an index-sized integer
18:14 Krock !c 0.1 * 'fuck'
18:14 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'float'
18:14 rubenwardy !c 'lol' * "cheeseburgers"
18:14 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'str'
18:14 rubenwardy !c 'l' * "cheeseburgers"
18:14 reactor !c 18446744073709551617 * 'Ъ'
18:14 MinetestBot OverflowError: cannot fit 'long' into an index-sized integer
18:14 reactor :(
18:14 rubenwardy !c 'l' * "cheeseburgers"
18:14 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'str'
18:14 Jordach rubenwardy, quit it
18:14 PenguinDad !c 100 * 'fix it '
18:14 MinetestBot 'fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it fix
18:14 Jordach !ignore rubenwardy
18:14 MinetestBot Jordach: 'rubenwardy' added to ignore list.
18:14 reactor !c nil * 'Ъ'
18:14 MinetestBot NameError: name 'nil' is not defined
18:15 reactor !c -inf * 'Ъ'
18:15 MinetestBot NameError: name 'inf' is not defined
18:15 rubenwardy WHAT
18:15 rubenwardy reactor, don't you mean?
18:15 }u{ !c rand() * farts
18:15 MinetestBot NameError: name 'rand' is not defined
18:15 }u{ !c random() * farts
18:15 MinetestBot TypeError: 'SomeObject' object is not callable
18:15 }u{ LOL
18:15 Krock !c 'haha' * 'trololo'
18:15 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'str'
18:15 Jordach MinetestBot: quit
18:15 }u{ SomeObject?
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18:16 Jordach deal with it
18:16 rubenwardy count(reactor.botabuse) == 12
18:16 rubenwardy count(rubenwardy.botabuse) == 2
18:16 khonkhortisan 3.
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18:16 rubenwardy my mistake
18:16 reactor rubenwardy: рубенварды
18:17 reactor тЫПЕеРРОР: ЦАН'Т МУЛТИПЛЫ СЕЯУЕНЦЕ БЫ НОН-ИНТ ОФ ТЫПЕ 'СТР'
18:17 Krock !c count(reactor.botabuse) * 'noob lol '
18:17 rubenwardy reactor: рэактар
18:17 Krock me == ignore == true?
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18:17 reactor Krock: Кузькина [Ы/Н]?
18:17 playzooki hi guys
18:18 Krock reactor, hold on..must start google
18:18 }u{ "MinetestBot has left ("pretentious pricks")"
18:18 reactor playzooki: гДХБЮПСИРЕ!
18:18 PenguinDad MinetestBot.here() == false
18:18 Krock reactor, "Kuzkyna [Y / N]"? hmm it failed.
18:18 playzooki i do not speak that language :P
18:18 reactor Krock: please answer yes or no
18:19 Krock or
18:19 rubenwardy Neither do I
18:19 rubenwardy translate.google.com is fun
18:19 playzooki cba
18:19 PenguinDad reactor: my answer nyes
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18:20 Krock my answer was 'or'
18:20 playzooki ore
18:21 }u{ ores
18:21 reactor Want a challenge? Translate this: Умнoжающиx межпрocтрaнственногo наиcкоcoк
18:21 }u{ oreses
18:21 }u{ horeses
18:21 Krock "Umnozhayuschyy mezhprostranstvennoho to Skok"
18:21 }u{ shoreses
18:21 }u{ shoresesz
18:21 playzooki Umnozhayuschix mezhproctranstvennogo naickocok
18:21 reactor PenguinDad: Then "нЬХАЙЮ ВРЕМХЪ/ГЮОХЯХ."
18:22 }u{ #minetest: PING!
18:22 khonkhortisan How would one go about getting an area-based minetest.is_protected? At the worldedit end, checking every node, or at the protection mod end, checking through its areas?
18:23 reactor Google Transalte fails.
18:23 reactor Pwned.
18:23 sfan5 khonkhortisan: is_protected is supposed to be used on individual nodes
18:23 khonkhortisan and will continue to fail.
18:23 }u{ do.kill(}u{)
18:23 khonkhortisan I know, but I wish to allow using worldedit in owned areas on creative servers, instead of only using it in singleplayer games.
18:24 rubenwardy khonkhortisan: loop through the registered areas, if node is inside deny
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18:24 rubenwardy easy peasy
18:24 zsoltisawesome that was a strange dream
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18:24 Mikerhinos hi
18:24 zsoltisawesome hi
18:24 * rubenwardy is actually going to use the NBE editor he made, rather than develop it...
18:24 rubenwardy hi Mikerhinos
18:25 zsoltisawesome :/
18:25 zsoltisawesome minetest is being a butt again
18:26 reactor aboot
18:26 sfan5 boat
18:26 sfan5 boat!7
18:26 khonkhortisan Which should it do first, ask for confirmation when editing a large count of nodes, or check for permission? - because there's no need for confirmation if you can't do it anyway, and checking permission is also a large operation
18:26 sfan5 I like boats!
18:26 sfan5 !rainbow RAAAIIINNBOOOWW BOOOAAAATTT
18:26 MinetestBot 4R4A4A7A7I7I8I8N8N3B3O3OOWW6 6B6OOOA4A4A4A7T7T7T
18:26 zsoltisawesome I like big boats!
18:26 zsoltisawesome RAINBOAT
18:26 reactor опхелмхй, хлечыхи бхденбунд
18:27 sfan5 khonkhortisan: worldediting tools that check for permission should limit amount of blocks changeable
18:27 sfan5 also checking every 8 nodes would probably be enough
18:27 reactor Good night!
18:27 zsoltisawesome "You MUST not use an orange to set post_effect_color" LOL
18:28 rubenwardy khonkhortisan: cuboid intersection?
18:29 zsoltisawesome rubenwardy: that sounds like a disease
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18:30 Mikerhinos is there a changelog for daylies ? Because it seems I had a performance increase today, and all I changed on my system is Gnome default theme
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18:31 supermario182 hi. how infinite are the voxels in this game? is there a bottom?
18:31 rubenwardy 31KM in each axis from the center of the map
18:31 Mikerhinos supermario182: I think the world is a 32km cube
18:31 ShadowNinja Mikerhinos: https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest/commits/master
18:31 rubenwardy 64 kilometres from one side to another
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18:32 supermario182 is each cube 1 m then?
18:32 Mikerhinos ShadowNinja: great thx ! Added in my favourites :)
18:32 Krock no, it's 9.98415325m
18:32 rubenwardy Yes, supermario182
18:32 * Krock trolls
18:32 rubenwardy Shut up Krock
18:32 PenguinDad each node 1m^3
18:32 PenguinDad +is
18:32 supermario182 awesome thanks
18:33 kaeza yay thing works and now I'm without inet on 'buntu :D
18:33 * kaeza slaps himself
18:33 Krock windows for the win trolo
18:34 rubenwardy Don't confuse the newbies, Krock :P
18:35 Mikerhinos I think that Krock was speaking of windows in Minetest, it's great because when you add some to your house, you can see outside, it's great
18:35 Krock rubenwardy, they always noticed my kiddings until now :P
18:36 Krock Mikerhinos, I don't understand the deeper sence of it..sorry
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18:36 Mikerhinos really ? Is my english so bad ? lol
18:36 Krock no, mine is
18:37 Mikerhinos where are you from ?
18:37 rubenwardy How do I make my node face towards the player, without turning upside down? Ie, 4d facedir.
18:37 Krock hmm when the forum tellsme switzerland, then it must be true :)
18:38 Krock rubenwardy, the bones mod from minetest_game might help you
18:38 Krock they used dir_to_facedir as function
18:38 Mikerhinos Krock: oh yeah didn't remember sorry lol, which part ? (just curious as I may work in Geneva in june if I'm lucky enough)
18:39 Krock Mikerhinos, the german-speaking-part. more you can't get out of me :P
18:39 kaeza this guy must be real fun at parties https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=137917#p137917
18:39 Krock #anonymous
18:39 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
18:39 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (35ms)
18:40 rubenwardy got it working
18:40 rubenwardy as simple as paramtype2 = "facedir"
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18:46 * Jordach just made something insane in blender
18:47 Krock a cobblestone?
18:48 rubenwardy a cube?
18:48 Jordach i accidentially made a scene too realistic
18:49 rubenwardy I made a medieval market stall, 55 polys. https://www.dropbox.com/s/iavag​ur7w8sh2fk/Shop_Stand.png?dl=1
18:49 rubenwardy For an RTS or RPG
18:49 rubenwardy It has a counter, and everything!
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18:56 rubenwardy Inocudom ruins fun :(
18:56 khonkhortisan Krock, how do you get two mouse pointers on windows?
18:57 crazyR is this the correct way to use the minetest.after function: https://gist.github.com/cra​zyR14/7c521576575904d83937
18:57 crazyR thats not all the code in the file just the function i wanna call and the after call
18:58 Krock khonkhortisan, open paint, draw 1337 of them
18:58 Krock no idea at all
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19:32 stareye hi how can i quit in fullscreen on keyboard
19:33 stareye just exit
19:33 sfan5 I don't know what you mean but try Escape
19:35 stareye doesnt work
19:35 sfan5 ah
19:35 sfan5 I get it now
19:35 sfan5 you can't
19:36 sfan5 just don't use fullscreen
19:36 Mikerhinos fullscreen is bad for your private life anyway. When you fullscreen, you can't see anything else, and a kitten dies
19:37 Mikerhinos maximize window
19:37 sfan5 meow
19:38 sfan5 !tell BlockMen ich hab mal den bookshelf inventory pull request gemerget, hoffe das ist ok
19:38 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever
19:38 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
19:38 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
19:40 Mikerhinos I said private life, I mean social life, sorry for the kittens, if someone has a pussy I can make some more...oh wait a minute...didn't come out the way I meant
19:41 sfan5 >if someone has a pussy I can make some more
19:41 sfan5 you're female?
19:42 Mikerhinos well if I need a pussy I guess not
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19:43 sfan5 o/ BlockMen
20:01 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix all warnings reported by clang 118e2ae865 2014-04-15T21:34:53+02:00 http://git.io/Zq279A
20:04 zsoltisawesome Derp!
20:04 zsoltisawesome !rainbow What in the name of apples!
20:04 MinetestBot 4W4h4a7t7 7i8n8 8t3h3e3 nam6e6 6of a4p4p4l7e7s7!
20:06 zsoltisawesome Krock: Ping!
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20:06 zsoltisawesome us`0gb: Ping!
20:06 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: Ping!
20:07 sfan5 !rainbow kittens are nice!
20:07 MinetestBot 4k4i4t7t7e7n8s8 8a3r3e3 nic6e6!
20:07 Krock Pong!
20:07 us`0gb zsoltisawesome: Ping response!
20:07 Krock zsoltisawesome, Pong!
20:07 zsoltisawesome us`0gb: it took 1337 ms for my ping to get back!
20:07 zsoltisawesome :P
20:08 zsoltisawesome Krock, Ping!
20:08 Krock zsoltisawesome,Pong!
20:08 * zsoltisawesome pings
20:08 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: Ping response!
20:09 Mikerhinos game,set, and match
20:09 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: it took 9001 ms for my ping to get back!
20:09 zsoltisawesome :P
20:09 zsoltisawesome Mikerhinos: LOL
20:09 Krock zsoltisawesome:Ping
20:09 * zsoltisawesome pongs
20:10 sfan5 !kick Krock,zsoltisawesome Spam
20:10 Krock was kicked by MinetestBot: Spam
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20:10 Krock that's called fun, not spam
20:10 sfan5 !kick zsoltisawesome  Spam
20:10 zsoltisawesome was kicked by MinetestBot:  Spam
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20:10 sfan5 Krock: spamming is discouraged, also automatic rejoin on kick if going to get you banned very fast
20:10 zsoltisawesome we are playing a public pingpong match
20:11 Krock sfan5, sorry, client feature.
20:11 sfan5 disable it
20:11 zsoltisawesome Krock: ##pingpong
20:11 Krock shut up now
20:11 sfan5 on almost every channel automatically rejoining on kick if going to get you banned within minutes
20:12 Krock ok
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20:12 us`0gb I'm is one channel where I get kicked for no good reason by an operator that abuses power. If I could set autorejoin for one channel only, I'd do it, but I can't completely disable it.
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20:12 us`0gb *I'm in
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20:14 Mikerhinos that's a bit rude, it was just some sort of coffee machine fun at work, it's not like if it was a permanent game between newcomers :s
20:15 zsoltisawesome us`0gb: ##pingpong
20:15 ShadowNinja us`0gb: Can you have his ChanOp status removed?
20:17 us`0gb ShadowNinja: He might be the channel owner. In any case, he's one of the most active people there, is often rude, and abuses power. I think if he wasn't high ranking, he'd be out ofpower by now.
20:18 zsoltisawesome i now own ##pingpong
20:18 us`0gb He's actually driven people from the channel intentionally.
20:18 zsoltisawesome i will be hosting ping-pong matches there occationally
20:19 zsoltisawesome us`0gb: thats pretty bad
20:19 ShadowNinja us`0gb: Maybe not a good channel to hang out in then.  ;-)
20:19 Mikerhinos you're speaking of Krock ?
20:20 us`0gb ShadowNinja: Meh. You're probably right, but it's not the worst place for me to hang out. I ditched tho channels that were a ban influence on me.
20:20 us`0gb Mikerhinos: I am not.
20:21 Mikerhinos us`0gb: oh ok, because each time that I join here, and say "hi", anytime, anyday, he's here to say "hi" too, and is always cool
20:22 us`0gb Mikerhinos: I've never had any issues with most of the people in this channel. This is a pretty good crowd.
20:22 zsoltisawesome ya, +1
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20:26 us`0gb Even the trolls here can be fun. Remember Lamefun?
20:28 * ShadowNinja chuckles
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20:34 Jordach landmine was funnier
20:34 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-15 11:20 UTC <Taoki[laptop]> You corrected it long ago, complain then :3
20:35 ShadowNinja sfan5: Um, slight delay?
20:35 markveidemanis !tell markveidemanis Wazzup
20:35 MinetestBot You can tell that to yourself
20:35 markveidemanis GRRR
20:36 sfan5 ShadowBot: tell.py is kinda broken
20:36 ShadowBot sfan5: O.K.
20:36 sfan5 wat
20:36 sfan5 wat
20:36 sfan5 WAT
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20:36 markveidemanis hahahahahahahahaha
20:36 sfan5 ShadowNinja: tell.py is kinda broken
20:37 Jordach refactor the bitch then
20:37 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-15 18:19 UTC <}u{> Hello!
20:37 sfan5 Jordach: fix those stuff yourself
20:37 Jordach in fact, nuke said file and repair it
20:37 markveidemanis Do Ops trigger tell?
20:38 Jordach \o/
20:38 Jordach >listening to Gammer's Mix, hears Egoraptor for the intro
20:42 ShadowNinja sfan5: def tell(p, m) p.reply("~" + m.args[2][1:]) ;-)
20:43 ShadowNinja (Obviously wouldn't work though)
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20:55 Jordach also; https://cdn.mediacru.sh/C66V6sDTs-Sy.png
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20:56 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PioUxsfd0UHL.png :D
20:57 zsoltisawesome Jordach: LOL
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20:59 zsoltisawesome at exactly 3:00:00 PM
20:59 zsoltisawesome XD
21:21 zsoltisawesome how to change Minetest font? I remember you could somehow...
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21:22 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: look in minetest.conf.example
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21:23 zsoltisawesome found it, thanks
21:28 zsoltisawesome text so small, yet I set size to 18...
21:29 zsoltisawesome #minetest: Bye everyone!
21:29 zsoltisawesome I have to go and play with CRYENGINE!
21:30 Exio4 CRY engine
21:32 zat go cry
21:32 zat Guys please consider making the names of the players case-insensitive while still displaying in the case the user originally registered with.
21:35 VanessaE_ zat, ShadowNinja has a mod for that
21:35 VanessaE_ I use it on my servers.
21:37 VanessaE_ that, however, something that should be added upstream, I agree
21:38 * EvergreenTree is happy because he just set a personal best on the 3x3x3 rubik's cube
21:38 EvergreenTree 25.53
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21:39 PenguinDad But there should be a setting to turn it on and off.
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21:40 VanessaE_ 25.53 seconds?
21:41 zat VanessaE_: how is it called?
21:41 EvergreenTree VanessaE_: yes
21:42 VanessaE_ zat: ask ShadowNinja :P  I just got it as a bit of code originally that I added to kaeza's/my "no guests"/"forbidden names" mod
21:42 VanessaE_ you speedcubers seriously astound me.  I couldn't even solve one in 25 *minutes*.
21:42 EvergreenTree lol
21:42 EvergreenTree Thanks
21:42 EvergreenTree It's not that fast comapared to the WR
21:42 VanessaE_ I know
21:42 VanessaE_ some kid does it in what, 8 seconds?
21:42 EvergreenTree the wr is 5.24 seconds or so
21:43 VanessaE_ whit
21:43 VanessaE_ shit
21:43 EvergreenTree the 2x2x2 is 1.2 or something
21:43 EvergreenTree Ikr, it's amazing
21:43 zat I will VanessaE_ lol
21:43 VanessaE_ I've watched a few of those videos and I swear, these kids must be hopped up on some seriously high-end caffeine or something to be able to think that fast :P
21:44 zat still I will try the mod you just mentioned
21:47 Exio4 do you want to build a snowman? it doesn't have to be a snowman...
21:47 Exio4 ~
21:48 Exio4 or maybe they just have parts of his brain plugged in the wrong side
21:49 Exio4 iirc one of the guys that was uba-fast at mathz, used the part based/dedicated to the eyes when calculating stuff or something like that
21:50 Exio4 i can solve a rubik cube in infinite time
21:51 PilzAdam I cant :-/
21:53 Exio4 when is tg(x) = +-infinite?
21:55 ShadowNinja zat: It isn't published.  One minute...
21:55 zat kewl thx
21:55 VanessaE_ bbl
21:56 ShadowNinja zat: http://ix.io/bHK
21:57 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, http://ix.io/bHK/lua
21:58 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I intentionally gave him the raw version.
21:58 khonkhortisan I disagree. It is not possible to solve a rubiks cube in infinite time.
21:58 zat ecsselent ShadowNinja. thx
21:58 khonkhortisan Either you're doing the same move over and over, or randomness will eventually catch up with you
22:00 zat ShadowNinja: you should publish a mod for that.
22:00 zat Something like... consistentNaming mod or whatever it would be more appropriate
22:00 ShadowNinja zat: Yes, perhaps.
22:00 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, sry!!
22:00 zat a function for admins to rename players would be good idea too.
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22:01 Exio4 khonkhortisan: you could say infinite time == you can't solve it
22:01 Exio4 when will tg(x) == infinite
22:01 ShadowNinja zat: You can't login as ZaT and be renamed to zat by a mod though.
22:01 ShadowNinja You need to use the correct case.
22:02 zat Exio4: time is infinite, if not, prove me wrong.
22:03 zat ShadowNinja: Imagine someone joined as Michael_1995xlol and later said... oh god I just want to be called Michael.
22:03 zat Then some admin renames
22:03 zat all happy!
22:04 zat inventory+ or unified_inventory? I can't decide...
22:04 Exio4 zat: can you prove that is true?
22:04 ShadowNinja zat: unified_inventory.
22:05 zat Exio4: time hasnt finished yet, plus nothing suggests it will ever end.
22:05 zat I won, your argument is invalid.
22:05 ShadowNinja Exio4: Falacy of, um, I forget.  *checks book*.
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22:05 Exio4 zat: nothing suggests it won't end
22:05 Exio4 and what is time too?
22:05 zat ShadowNinja: why unified? more current?
22:06 zat Exio4: since it has never ended and always ran, then it is safe to assume it will continue to do so.
22:06 ShadowNinja zat: Yes.  It also has a crafting grid and looks nicer.
22:07 Exio4 when did it start?
22:08 zat Exio4: infinite things dont have a beginning, and you cannot prove time has ever begun.
22:08 PilzAdam "infinite things dont have a beginning" wat?
22:09 PilzAdam what about natural numbers?
22:09 Exio4 (-inf, 0)
22:09 Exio4 it has an ending, (0, +inf)
22:09 PilzAdam what about [0;1] ?
22:09 Exio4 it has a start
22:09 zat eh, ok, guys, the real universe is not voxel based~
22:09 PilzAdam [0;1] has a beggining AND an ending
22:09 Exio4 and is infinite
22:09 zat Lets say then, time begun somewhere around -inf.
22:10 Exio4 zat: what is -inf?
22:10 PilzAdam time began at 0; the big bang is the beginning of time
22:10 zat the start of something inf
22:10 ShadowNinja INT_MIN ;-)
22:10 zat PilzAdam: 0 is actually 0000/00/00 00:00:00 UTC.
22:10 zat Pilz plz...
22:11 Exio4 zat, somewhere around -inf?
22:11 PilzAdam wtf
22:11 Exio4 -inf-1!
22:11 PenguinDad zat: The year 0 doesn't even exist
22:11 Exio4 what is a year?
22:12 zat PenguinDad: I dont thing penguins have much of a notion about years.
22:12 zat Exio4: around 365 days.
22:12 PilzAdam zat, I mean 0 as in the begging of time
22:12 Exio4 zat: around 365 days? what was used to define that "number"?
22:12 PilzAdam aka -13.8e9 years b.c.
22:13 zat 0 is our reference
22:13 zat since time is infinite, it cannot have an absolute beginning time.
22:13 Exio4 why are you taking it as reference?
22:13 Exio4 zat: why not?
22:13 PilzAdam meh, Exio4 dont feed the troll
22:14 Exio4 he
22:14 zat PilzAdam: is just mad for I called him pilz.
22:14 zat Exio4: That we can calculate the time when the big-bang must have happened has no relation with time.
22:15 Exio4 what did we have before the big bang?
22:15 zat The big bang doesnt have to be the beginning of time too.
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22:15 zat Exio4: we had time :D
22:15 Exio4 what is time then
22:16 zat our perception of the changes in the universe, thanks to our capacity to persist memories.
22:16 Exio4 so it is basically something subjective
22:16 Exio4 a perception isn't an exact thing, and based on that each other times flow differently (faster, slower?)
22:17 zat time is only one, how you interpret it is a different thing.
22:17 zat consider time as a dimension
22:17 zat it is abstract, still it is ordered and has a “direction”.
22:17 zat we can perceive it for we can remember.
22:18 Exio4 so time before humans... did it exist?
22:18 Exio4 if it is a perception
22:18 zat time is not a perception, it is a fact, a dimension, that we perceive the way we can.
22:18 Exio4 and is the universe infinite?
22:19 zat for time to exist, events must happen in order.
22:19 Exio4 saying it very big doesn't count, there are a lot of atoms in earth, are they infinite?
22:19 Exio4 zat: so you're saying traveling in time is actually impossible
22:19 zat The universe can be finite.
22:20 zat Yes Exio4, it is impossible.
22:20 Exio4 zat: can you prove that?
22:20 zat you prove that it is possible.
22:20 PilzAdam we all travel through time
22:20 Exio4 sush
22:20 PilzAdam with a constant speed
22:20 zat no Pilz, I go faster.
22:20 zat others just dont realize.
22:21 Exio4 what about that theory that was around
22:21 PilzAdam zat, that means you move slower compared to me
22:21 Exio4 about going into a ship, then up to light-speed
22:22 PilzAdam Exio4, special relativity (c) 19something albert einstein
22:22 zat Exio4: that theory is ultra old and already dismissed.
22:22 Exio4 was it him
22:22 PilzAdam Exio4, that theory is about 100 years old and already proven
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22:23 PilzAdam you have 2 clocks in sync; put on a plane, move arround the earth a few times and come back; compare and youll notice that on the clock on the place less time has passed
22:23 PilzAdam *one on a plane
22:24 Exio4 so
22:24 khonkhortisan Then you redo the experiment after resyncing the clocks and switching them to make sure one isn't bad
22:24 zat if that experiment was *scientifically* ever done, I doubt time is the only factor you can relate to it.
22:24 PilzAdam zat, it was done
22:24 khonkhortisan it was done *experimentally*
22:25 zat and by scientifically, I mean doing it at least a 2000 times, with different clocks, altitudes, weather conditions, speeds, differently-syncd clocks, etc...
22:25 zat otherwise it can really hardly be called scientifically
22:25 PilzAdam "Special relativity implies a wide range of consequences, which have been experimentally verified, including [...] time dilation" – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
22:26 PilzAdam http://www.edu-observatory.org/physics-faq/​Relativity/SR/experiments.html#Twin_paradox
22:27 Exio4 what about quantum physics
22:28 zat the experiments dont convince me... they all involve a plane
22:28 zat why not trying with balloons?
22:28 PilzAdam lol
22:28 zat no, I am serious.
22:28 PilzAdam trolling troll is trolling
22:28 Exio4 ^
22:28 zat the clocks could have been unsyncd by the G forces of the planes.
22:28 zat when landing and... unlanding.
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22:29 zat ...good one, eh?
22:29 PilzAdam zat, both were on planes
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22:30 PilzAdam read the last link I posted
22:30 zat employing only planes doesnt seem right
22:31 zat I would try with planes, with helicopters, with a balloon, etc...
22:31 Exio4 how does an atomic clock works?
22:31 zat air density, electromagnetic fields, there are too many factors to consider.
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22:32 zat even gravity... that a device to count time gets unsync doesnt necessarily mean that time flowed differently, it only means that it got unsync.
22:33 khonkhortisan an atomic clock counts how many particles fall off of radioactive atoms
22:33 PilzAdam Exio4, they measure electromagnetic waves emited by atoms changing their energy level
22:33 zat why time must necessarily flow differently? why not there are different conditions that made the clock work faster of slower?
22:33 khonkhortisan or what pa said
22:33 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, my method is more exact :-p
22:33 Exio4 so, i guess, based on zat said
22:33 Exio4 they're very innacurate
22:34 Exio4 oh
22:34 Exio4 GPS
22:34 PilzAdam zat, they used four clocks
22:35 PilzAdam Exio4, they are actually the most accurate way to measure time known
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22:35 PilzAdam since the second is defined by these atoms changing their energy level
22:35 zat a minimal number like to conclude how time flows based on how they were apparently affected.
22:35 PilzAdam (the metric second, in case Americans have some weird alternative for that)
22:35 Exio4 lol
22:36 zat for me its all still anecdotal evidence.
22:36 Exio4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glob​al_Positioning_System#Timekeeping
22:36 zat you know of any more serious attempt to prove that? other than just placing clocks in airplanes.
22:36 khonkhortisan ^ I'm on a similar page
22:37 PilzAdam zat, they also did a similiar experiment with rockets
22:37 PilzAdam and with muons
22:38 PilzAdam zat, also the twin paradox is just one part of the SR theory
22:38 zat way too pretentious to prove how time flows with so few experiments.
22:38 zat that why it is a theory and not a law
22:38 PilzAdam and basically all parts are proven by experiments and explain each other: http://www.edu-observatory.org/physic​s-faq/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
22:38 PilzAdam please read all of them
22:38 zat TL;DR, I have job to do.
22:38 PilzAdam trolling?
22:39 zat no, not trolling, I must work
22:39 Exio4 zat: can you prove that the time in earth isn't "biased" by the rotation of it?
22:39 zat how do you think that I pay for my apartment/water/gas/electricity/internet...
22:39 zat Exio4: I cannot
22:39 khonkhortisan "is the accepted physical theory regarding the relationship between space and time."
22:40 PilzAdam you have time to discuss here but dont have time to read documents to actually be able to discuss here?
22:40 Exio4 lol
22:40 zat I decide what I have to to.
22:40 zat time to*
22:40 khonkhortisan Your boss decides that
22:41 Exio4 what if you're your own boss
22:41 zat I dont work as an employee... lol.
22:41 khonkhortisan too many people do
22:43 Exio4 i want an atomic clock builtin in my mobo
22:43 Exio4 :D
22:43 Exio4 because it has atomic in its name
22:43 zat nuclears sounds more cool
22:44 khonkhortisan Instead of the worldedit permission to let someone modify anything and everything, what about requiring owning an area to edit, requiring the worldedit permission to edit everywhere except someone else's owned area, and whatever the normal admin/moderator permission is to edit everything?
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23:12 MinetestBot hoodedice: 04-15 15:13 UTC <rubenwardy> I think Irrlicht does that, hoodedice
23:13 harrison__ but didn't the band rush already make a musical from Rand's "Anthem"?
23:13 harrison__ ( the albun 2112 )
23:28 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: That would require an area is_protected API.
23:29 ShadowNinja And some mods, like protector wouldn't be able to do that efficiently.
23:29 ShadowNinja +,
23:29 ShadowNinja (At least for large areas)
23:52 khonkhortisan eh, I'll have to go into the protection mods' internals to differentiate non-owned area with area owned by myself.
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23:53 ShadowNinja That would work with my areas mod.  And with node_ownership if you really tried.
23:54 khonkhortisan I'm starting with yours, just because that's what VE-Creative uses.
23:54 khonkhortisan is_protected and is_not_protected would be pretty confusing if they weren't exact opposites
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