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07:31 Mikerhinos hi all
07:33 CheapSeth Hi
07:49 Mikerhinos anyone knows where the game /bin folder is on Ubuntu ?
07:56 CheapSeth Must be something like/usr/bin/minetest
08:12 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Reconciliation Day! :-D
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08:18 krupnovpavel who moderator on forum minetest? I need help!
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08:29 krupnovpavel who moderator on forum minetest? I need help!
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08:45 Mikerhinos I'm trying to setup a server on Ubuntu to play with my kids and friends, he can connect (windows client) but get a ton of error messages onscreen, I think that it's because of server having mods that he doesn't have :s how can I know which mods are server only and which one must be on client side too ?
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08:54 Mikerhinos well, looking at server console i'm not sure that he connected because there's no trace of it :s
08:55 Mikerhinos " listening on 0.0.0.0:25565" (i changed port to the same as minecraft because my router was already configured for it lol) isn't it supposed to be my external ip instead of 0.0.0.0 ?
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09:01 kaeza Mikerhinos, mods are always server-side
09:02 Mikerhinos oh ok, so it has to be a configuration problem, i can't connect server with lime minetest on my phone neither
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09:19 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
09:19 kaeza hey PA
09:27 Mikerhinos hi PilzAdam
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10:12 krupnovpavel Hello
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10:35 Mikerhinos i'm trying to run an ubuntu server but I have a bind failed : address already in use error, no other instance running, default port, router forwarding done... :(
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10:40 Mikerhinos looks like i had a "hidden" instance, killed it now it's good lol
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12:12 Krock hi
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12:59 blaise hi
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13:04 krupnovpavel Hello
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13:05 krupnovpavel who moderator in forum?
13:05 Krock everybody with a "Moderator" title
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13:18 krupnovpavel among you there are moderators?
13:19 Krock Yes, it's an hierarchy
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13:23 krupnovpavel In General I need to delete the downloaded file on the forum, my post.
13:23 Krock report the post and a mod will do it
13:27 krupnovpavel Thanks Krock! )
13:27 Krock np
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13:35 blaise rawr?
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13:41 Mikerhinos i love bdcraft texture pack, but just saw that it doesn't have texture for diamonds and several other ores :s maybe my mine is full of diamonds and i never saw it lol
13:43 blaise I would think not
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13:45 blaise I'm rather fond of VanessaEs texture pack..
13:45 Mikerhinos HDX ?
13:46 blaise yer
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13:47 Mikerhinos not fond of it, anyway i found that bdcraft exist for minecraft and seems to have diamond ore etc...so i'll see if i can rename it and use it for minetest :)
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14:25 harrison today is international memehopper recognition day
14:25 harrison please join me in celebrating today's new modern hip "a-go-go" memehopper
14:25 Sokomine i need to create uniq ids in lua. the time in microseconds would be helpful for that purpose - yet it seems that one is not available os-independently?
14:26 Sokomine to be more specific, my trader mobs need a uniq id (uniq for that world)
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14:35 harrison 04,09memehopper
14:40 twoelk a meme for every trader
14:41 CWz I think that the person who threatened to force all minetest servers to whitelist was just april fooling us. no griefer  would tell his targets that he is about to grief
14:46 harrison that's so racist
14:50 twoelk Sokomine: seen this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/641 for hanging_node?
14:56 Sokomine twoelk: ah. very nice :-) so bas is working on it. hope it gets merged
14:56 Sokomine guess i also found a solution for my id problem
14:57 twoelk was working on it I guess, seems older
14:58 twoelk hm, a birth certificate for mobs? using birthday as id?
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15:02 Sokomine they do have a birthday :-)
15:02 Sokomine (hope they won't celebrate...might require lots of cakes...:))
15:04 CWz Should we be worried : https://forum.minetest.net​/viewtopic.php?pid=135676
15:05 CWz I think it's just some bloke pulling a half baked prank.
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15:06 Sokomine that griefing thread? griefers always happen. a certain percentage of visitors to a server will be griefers no matter what you do
15:08 Sokomine in minecraft classic, dealing with them is pretty nice: freeze the griefer so that he can't move, revoke the interact-aequivalent, roll back everything the griefer did in front of his eyes. ignore subsequent whining. ban if necessary
15:08 Sokomine apart from the freezing, all that can be done in minetest as well
15:09 PenguinDad We have to add a /freeze command :>
15:09 CWz +1
15:10 Sokomine hm, at least freezing is good to get a player's attention. if they can't move, they sometimes start to listen to what you've been trying to tell them for half an hour before...
15:10 Sokomine but in general, this isn't such a big problem
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15:10 Sokomine could probably be done by a version of jail i guess
15:10 Sokomine hi jordach
15:10 CWz problem is that movement/positioning  is controlled by the client not the server
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15:11 Sokomine afaik attaching the player to something might work
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15:12 CWz Like that glitch on the redcrab server
15:12 CWz one time i was welded onto one of the rob bots  head
15:12 Sokomine *g*
15:13 Sokomine or onto other player's heads...
15:15 CWz does this still happen with newer versions of minetest?
15:15 Sokomine it depends on the server...and as none of us can contact redcrab.....
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15:17 CWz I happened to him?
15:17 CWz *what
15:17 Jordach NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://cdn.mediacru.sh/aCMyA_x8iv7b.png
15:18 harrison The horse raced past the barn fell.
15:18 harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_path_sentence
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15:37 PenguinDad Jordach: where is the problem?
15:39 harrison 04,09such memehopper
15:42 Jordach PenguinDad, 200mb update
15:42 PilzAdam Jordach, download a kubuntu iso instead
15:43 Jordach one's already burned
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15:50 john_minetest 90mememememememememememememememememememememememem​ememememememememememememememememememememememememe
15:50 john_minetest 09mememememememememememememememememememememememem​ememememememememememememememememememememememememe
15:58 * sfan5 flips john_minetest
15:58 john_minetest y u flip me?
15:58 john_minetest 09meme
15:58 john_minetest 29meme
15:58 john_minetest ok
16:00 PenguinDad !rainbow memememememememememememememememememememememememe​memememememememememememememememememememememememe
16:00 MinetestBot 4m4e4m7e7m7e8m8e8m3e3m3emem6e6m6emem4e4m4e​7m7e7m8e8m8e3m3e3meme6m6e6meme4m4e4m7e7m7e​8m8e8m3e3m3emem6e6m6emem4e4m4e7m7e7m8e8m8e​3m3e3meme6m6e6meme4m4e4m7e7m7e8m8e8m3e3m3e
16:00 Jordach mem and eme are in different colours
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16:04 PenguinDad ~rainbow memememememememememememememememememememememememe​memememememememememememememememememememememememe
16:04 ShadowBot PenguinDad: memememememememememememememememememememememememe​memememememememememememememememememememememememe (1 more message)
16:04 john_minetest ~!rainbow meme
16:05 john_minetest ~rainbow !meme
16:05 ShadowBot john_minetest: !meme
16:07 Garmine o.O
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16:08 sfan5 meow
16:08 * sfan5 puts a kitten on john_minetest's head
16:09 * john_minetest purrs
16:09 * PenguinDad squawks at the kitten
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16:09 Jordach :3
16:09 john_minetest PenguinDad: Have you got a transponder and are you squawking 1234?
16:10 Jordach PHYSICS! https://cdn.mediacru.sh/gBcK5yD9mPwH.png
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16:11 sfan5 yay
16:11 sfan5 my button werks
16:11 Jordach sfan5, modding xfat is easy
16:12 sfan5 wat
16:12 sfan5 wat's xfat
16:12 sfan5 ?
16:12 Jordach xchat :P
16:12 PenguinDad john_minetest: I don't have a transponder
16:12 rubenwardy Hi all
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16:13 john_minetest PenguinDad: You can't squawk without a transponder.
16:13 john_minetest Basic pilot knowledge.
16:14 PenguinDad Penguins can squawk without a transponder
16:14 rubenwardy Just went to an Oxford university application talk.
16:15 sfan5 inb4 rubenwardy was not accepted
16:15 rubenwardy I haven't applied yet; that is in october
16:17 rubenwardy What happened to animalmaterials:glass?
16:18 rubenwardy Ah, they removed it
16:19 * Jordach might have contructed a working Minetest sun within blender that has full rotation and brightness for each angle
16:19 john_minetest oxford... nice town
16:19 john_minetest a lot of grass and a lot of universities and colleges.
16:20 john_minetest And half of them are like 20 pounds to visit because there was one scene of harry potter filmed in them.
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16:23 harrison the prime number few
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16:42 john_minetest Prime numbers are cool.
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17:17 Mikerhinos Ok so discovered Minetest yesterday, been on own Minecraft server for 2 weeks with my sons and a few friends, setup my own Minetest server today and I love it ! Though I'd like my sons and friends to come, anyone know about any awesome mods that could let me tell them "well of course you can stay on Minecraft, but you don't have *****" ? lol
17:18 harrison Minecraft doesn't have a memehopper mod
17:18 Jordach Mikerhinos, you don't need to mod the client
17:18 Jordach the content is displayed locally with the logic on the server end
17:18 PilzAdam Mikerhinos, here is a list of popular mods: http://minetest.net/mods
17:20 sfan5 Mikerhinos: making mods yourself isn't even that hard, if you want decoration blocks that have cute puppy faces on them; you can do that
17:20 Sokomine Mikerhinos: there are quite a lot of mods for everyones taste. it really depends on what you like
17:20 Sokomine yes, homedecor is a good start. and moreblocks. those are almost standard for servers where people build
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17:21 * Sokomine pats sfan5 automaticly
17:21 * sfan5 purrs at Sokomine
17:21 CWz O.o;
17:21 * Sokomine places a glass of milk somewhere close
17:21 * sfan5 meows at CWz
17:22 * sfan5 noms the milk
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17:22 Sokomine Mikerhinos: almost the only point where i'd say that minecraft is superior is when your focus lies on fighting and killing mobs. everything else is imho better in minetest :-)
17:22 Sokomine noms?
17:23 sfan5 Sokomine: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nom
17:24 Sokomine aah :-) thanks for the explanation
17:26 Jordach sfan5, windows 8 has kitten emoji
17:26 sfan5 fuck windows 8
17:27 * PilzAdam noms windows 8
17:27 * PilzAdam vomits
17:27 sfan5 eeew
17:27 * sfan5 purrs at PilzAdam
17:27 * PenguinDad gives PilzAdam some milk
17:28 Mikerhinos well I love it and I already put a few mods on, but community seems less active, many mods are outdated :s my sons would really like to play with fun models characters, I'm searching a mod that allows to do that but it doesn't seem easy :s
17:28 Jordach the future is neither mobile or localisedn in computing
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17:28 Jordach localised being towers and such
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17:29 Jordach Unified computing on the other hand, where you purchase a "server" and the clients display info based on the device type
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17:32 Sokomine what do you consider to be fun model characters? there's a mob with a lot of animals out there, and there are skin mods
17:33 Sokomine most mods still work fine on recent minetest versions. it's rather the exception than the rule that one doesn't work anymore
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17:33 Sokomine this here for example adds many animals: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8798
17:34 Mikerhinos well one of my son told me "I want to play as a creeper !" (from minecraft lol, I hate that mob so much, how many times I build things for hours, and in the night a creeper pops up, and destroy parts...)
17:34 Sokomine ah. you can do that. the models for players are nearly the same. just use the creeper texture :-)
17:35 Sokomine i'd hate such creatures as well i think :-) i eliminated the hostile ones in mobf (another great animals modpack) through rm -rf and kept only the peaceful ones :-)
17:35 PilzAdam Mikerhinos, if you know how to use blender or any other 3d modeling program you can create your own models and use them with minetest
17:36 Sokomine Mikerhinos: have a look at this mod: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8816   the unified_inventory mod it depends on is also highly recommendable
17:36 Sokomine that adds bags, home position, crafting guide...
17:37 Mikerhinos Sokomine: the variable in .conf doesn't work ? (the one like allow_hostile_mobs = false , can't remember which one exactly)
17:38 Sokomine Mikerhinos: oh, yes, might be possible that such a var was added later. i usually just removed the hostile creatures
17:38 Mikerhinos ok lol
17:38 sfan5 oh god
17:38 sfan5 not now
17:38 sfan5 !op sfan5 Jordach PilzAdam VanessaE
17:38 sfan5 !op ShadowNinja
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17:40 Mikerhinos well, my brain is melting, got to have a beer, but don't have...so...afk 30mn so I can buy some good Bavaria Extreme...   ***Homer Simpson drool over style***
17:40 Sokomine there is a mod that adds beer as well :-)
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17:41 Mikerhinos lol I think that I saw it this afternoon, will have to look at it lol. For now my server is fine, my brain isn't lol.
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17:50 rubenwardy Hello!
17:50 Jordach lol
17:50 PenguinDad Hell o!
17:54 rubenwardy Did you mean?... goes from Minetest -> mietest -> mieten
17:55 kaeza -> mienten?
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18:02 markveidemanis Hi
18:02 PilzAdam markveidemanis, why do you even use a cloak?
18:02 rubenwardy lol
18:03 markveidemanis I don't get it
18:03 rubenwardy We can see your IP when you join
18:03 markveidemanis So?
18:03 PenguinDad markveidemanis: use SASL
18:03 rubenwardy It is against the whole point
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18:05 markveidemanis Any better?
18:05 rubenwardy Worked :P
18:05 markveidemanis Great :P
18:05 markveidemanis idk about SASL, SSL worked
18:06 * markveidemanis needs something to write about
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18:13 Megaf Hi everyone
18:13 markveidemanis Hi
18:14 * markveidemanis is going to write about paramat's mapgen
18:15 Mikerhinos no beer, WIIIINE lol
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18:18 Jordach playing TF2, decided on this
18:18 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/9DurmrpDXuzi.jpg
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18:20 PenguinDad TF2 the best hat simulator in the world lol
18:21 Mikerhinos Sokomine: "[19:34] <Sokomine> ah. you can do that. the models for players are nearly the same. just use the creeper texture :-)" just checked it, you sure ? http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb201​30620161221/minecraft/images/7/70/1064​7_169190429920859_950004176_n-1-.jpg
18:31 Sokomine Mikerhinos: no, i mean the player models :-) if your sons want to be creepers, you need a creeper model somewhere. you can create one in blender if you're good at it
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18:37 blaise lol
18:46 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfskjv-pOTY
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18:49 PenguinDad !title
18:49 MinetestBot PenguinDad: John Lennon and Elvis Presley - Unplugged and Relaxed - YouTube
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18:52 PenguinDad I found a way to crash latest freeminer master :>
18:52 Mikerhinos Sokomine: Well last time I used Blender was like before Jesus was born lol, maybe I could do it on Cinema 4D, but I'm sure someone else did it...nevermind I'll just tell my son that the creeper sucks and that on Minetest he could have a HD skin lol
18:53 proller PenguinDad, how
18:53 markveidemanis <3 Cinema 4D
18:53 * twoelk wonders what the point is in playing a creeper. You sneak up to somebody and blowup. End of story.
18:55 Mikerhinos he just wanted to play a creeper skin, not blowup when near to somebody lol
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18:56 Mikerhinos but i'm pretty sure that he will prefer a HD skin on the base model, just have to find some (the one included in BDcraft is pretty awesome)
18:57 PenguinDad proller: load a world then close then world reload it. if you get something like "KeyValueStorageException: IO error: lock already held by process" reload it one more time
18:58 proller it was already fixed, but not commited
18:58 PenguinDad s/world reload/reload/
18:59 crazyR what do you guys think to a digifilter. basically a pipes filter that is controlled via digilines example to triger it would be: digiline_send("<filter_name>", "<number_items>")
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19:05 markveidemanis I like it
19:05 markveidemanis digiline should be getting more attention
19:05 markveidemanis I'm not sure everyone sees the potential
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19:12 blaise skin? did minetest-0.4.10 go silence of the lamb?
19:13 crazyR I loved it the moment i started toying with it
19:15 Krock wut? 0.4.10 released?
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19:20 Mikerhinos *check day of year...not april the 1st...*  0.4.10 ?
19:23 Amaz info Amaz
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19:36 blaise I don't believe it's released.. but it's very very close
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20:14 Mikerhinos Bon comme diraient les ricains : Faut que G.I. , bye (private joke)
20:32 * EvergreenTree just found a new source for forum signature quotes
20:32 EvergreenTree apt-get install fortune
20:32 EvergreenTree /usr/share/games/fortunes/
20:32 EvergreenTree :P
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21:08 john_minetest Hey, Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/724dlR5.jpg
21:08 john_minetest 5576 triangles.
21:10 EvergreenTree JordachTab: ^
21:10 EvergreenTree He's on his tablet
21:11 JordachTab ...3 point lighting?
21:11 john_minetest 2 point
21:11 john_minetest I had to enlighten all details of the model.
21:11 john_minetest That would have been impossible with only one light source.
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21:30 JordachTab lolololololllol http://imgur.com/HyjFimS
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22:20 EvergreenTree Hi cheapie
22:21 cheapie Hi.
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