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khonkhortisan |
I figured it out. http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=bc92a4c The pistons turn on from left to right, and turn off from right to left. |
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Cakez |
Hey :D |
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tim_flatus |
Today I am mostly working on a straw bale / cob mod. This may involve modding wheat to drop straw bales as well as wheat. AFAICS you can't have by-products from a crafting process. |
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tim_flatus |
In between pretending to do some RL work, naturally. ;-) |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Bunsen Burner Day! :-D |
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* tim_flatus |
moves his straw bales away from the bunsen burner. |
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tim_flatus |
D'oh! Of course you can have crafting byproducts - 'replacements'. So either I make wheat drop 1/4 straw to 'wheat' OR crafting flour returns 1 straw_bale for each bag of flour. The former would be more realistic. Comments welcome, but I guess I'm kind of on my own with this. :D |
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crazyR |
hmmm think im gunna get a bigger server. found that half my probelms have been due to hardware issues. so its time for a treat :) |
| 09:35 |
tim_flatus |
crazyR: the fact that mt runs on really low-end hardware can lull you into a false sense of security. A medium to large world with a few players on it will push the envelope a bit. |
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crazyR |
lol, tbh my world is verry small, theres about 5-6 small sized buildings on there. been running for a few days only, but was getting an influx or errors. some were software related/game related but a few that worried me were hardware related. better doing it now than in 2-3 months time whenthe world has picked up momentum lol |
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crazyR |
besides i got money to spend lol |
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tim_flatus |
Well, may as well do something useful with it then. ;-) |
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crazyR |
yep.... now just to wait.... twiddle my thumbs and wait some more.... i hate waiting lol |
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tim_flatus |
Straw Bale mod kind of works. Just need to fine-tune the drop parameters, then on to cob. |
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tim_flatus |
Totally hoist myself by my own petard. Modded torches to set fire to things. Since then I've burned one house down and trashed an entire crop of wheat. :/ |
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tim_flatus |
Is Cob crumbly or cracky? Cracky or Crumbly. I guess I should ask someone who has actually worked with the material in rl. |
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tim_flatus |
Do I have this right - when it comes to group capabilities, 1 is generally tougher than 3, but it depends on the tool's capabilities? |
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sfan5| |
meow |
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sfan5| |
nobody there? |
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sfan5| |
.. |
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sfan5| |
bye |
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tim_flatus |
bye |
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tim_flatus |
such tenacity ... and patience ... |
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crazyR |
is there anyway to broadcast my server on both ipv6 & 4 at the same time |
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tim_flatus |
blind stag mate |
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crazyR |
? |
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Krock |
hi |
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Kray |
wat |
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Krock |
lol |
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Krock |
happens |
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iqualfragile |
moin |
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sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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Krock |
hi sfan5 |
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harrison |
tim_flatus such tenacity ... and patience ... |
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harrison |
admirable |
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harrison |
but what about voxel raytracing? |
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harrison |
i mean |
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harrison |
rasterization is so 2nd millenium y'know |
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JackGruff |
sorry if this has been asked before but is there a survival-like mod that has you protect against the elements, not just needing food and drink? |
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sfan5 |
harrison: sponsor the Minetest dev team raytracing GPUs and then w'll talk again |
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sfan5 |
JackGruff: simple mobs/mobf ? |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, there already is a voxel raytracer |
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sfan5 |
oh yes |
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sfan5 |
and raytracing on CPUs is very fast |
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SylvieLorxu |
sfan5: Elements = Snow/Rain/etc. I believe |
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SylvieLorxu |
Not mobs :P |
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sfan5 |
ah |
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JackGruff |
yeah, like needing a habitat to survive in, to protect against cold |
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sfan5 |
I don't think there are any yet |
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JackGruff |
:/ |
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JackGruff |
i feared so |
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PilzAdam |
Simple Mobs has elemental mobs |
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Krock |
PilzAdam, do you mind when I release a modified clone of your bones mod? |
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iqualfragile |
Krock: no he does not, he explicitly stated in the LICENSE.txt |
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tim_flatus |
harrison: what about voxel raytracing? |
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sfan5 |
o/ Jordach |
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Jordach |
o/ |
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* Jordach |
starts up TF2 |
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!up yours |
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!up zuhau.se |
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rubenwardy |
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Krock |
hi rubenwardy |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
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rubenwardy |
hello, markveidemanis! |
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sfan5 |
lol http://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/21t8o7/a_boy_and_a_girl_were_sitting_in_a_java/ |
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tim_flatus |
How close do you have to be for abms to work? |
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PilzAdam |
tim_flatus, depends on the active block range |
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tim_flatus |
Thanks PilzAdam. |
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crazyR |
Segmentation fault <--- i am right in thinking there caused by hardware issues, usually limiting? |
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Krock |
+1 sfan5 |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/Q3cUg29.gif lol |
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Jordach |
i understand that, had to deal with CSS before |
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iqualfragile |
crazyR: not realy, paste full log |
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tim_flatus |
Jordach: that happens if you don't understand how html works. CSS is easy. |
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tim_flatus |
As is installing curtains. |
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!up 107.155.84.102 |
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PenguinDad |
!up 107.155.84.102 31000 |
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Progers |
Hello! |
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* EvergreenTree |
is learning c the hard way |
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EvergreenTree |
That's the name of the tutorial anyway (it's almost a class the way it works) |
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crazyR |
when using the make command on mt, is the number suppose to represent the cores or the physical cpu's --> make -j2 |
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harrison |
tim_flatus what do you mean "what about voxel raytracing?"? |
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tim_flatus |
harrison: what do you mean 'what do you mean "what about voxel raytracing?"?'? lol |
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tim_flatus |
Anyway, just finished building a roundhouse with a thatched roof. My work is done. Tomorrow I'll fix the textures. |
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crazyR |
its ok figured it out :) |
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tim_flatus |
Food! Now there's an idea. |
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harrison |
tim_flatus: why, have you coded one? |
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tim_flatus |
Sorry, I don't understand. I'm running low-end graphics hardware that probably wouldn't deal with raytracing. I mean, it looks great and all. |
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crazyR |
hmmm hey tim was it you i was telling that i was getting a new server this morning? |
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tim_flatus |
crazyR: yes ... ? |
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tim_flatus |
harrison: I'm just taking my first baby steps in modding. Graphics engine stuff is waaay beyond me. |
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crazyR |
tim_flatus: might have been a bad idea lol |
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harrison |
oh well |
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harrison |
perhaps someone somewhere has coded a realtime fractal-voxel tracer |
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harrison |
we can hope |
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tim_flatus |
crazyR: oh cach. Why? |
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crazyR |
tim_flatus: im not entirely sure at the moment, debuging, game loads, i log on from the clients. takes its time to load the map and when it just starts to load it... it crashes. with a segmentation fault. going to clear my logs and try again so i can read them a bit better as its preetty big at the moment |
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crazyR |
bare in mind this server is atleast twice as powerfull as the last lol |
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harrison |
oh. wait |
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crazyR |
hmm think i know whats up.. somehow the map is corrupt... but it still works fine on the other server |
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blaise |
anyone excited about the release of mintest-0.4.10 ? |
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tim_flatus |
I'm getting a warm feeling in my perineum, will that do? |
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harrison |
john_minetest: first i have heard of it. what are you talking about? |
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tim_flatus |
Mind you, I still think automatic doors are pretty neat. |
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* blaise |
is stoked |
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crazyR |
wooohoo fixed it :D |
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tim_flatus |
crazyR: \o/ |
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harrison |
it is not new |
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harrison |
oh, you were sarcasticking |
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harrison |
now i come to bitter understanding |
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harrison |
well, both of them are old |
| 21:15 |
harrison |
more than a year old |
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harrison |
we'll make progress this year though |
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harrison |
this summer we are going to get a persistent multiplayer world working |
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harrison |
i am going to hire garmine |
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harrison |
hungarians are shockingly affordable |
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harrison |
hire him to prevent him from having to take another summer job |
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iqualfragile_ |
octrees would be great for minetest, i think |
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iqualfragile_ |
would allow for variable voxel sizes at more or less no cost |
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kahrl |
iqualfragile_: not sure, see http://0fps.net/2012/01/14/an-analysis-of-minecraft-like-engines/ |
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kahrl |
but it would mean more or less a rewrite of huge parts |
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iqualfragile_ |
kahrl: reading, but i think i allready read that |
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iqualfragile_ |
i know |
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iqualfragile_ |
additonally it might not fit the current game |
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kahrl |
I think it would, actually |
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kahrl |
given that most servers are centered around building |
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iqualfragile_ |
the only thing that bugs me about using octrees is that you allways have to traverse the whole tree from the top |
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iqualfragile_ |
but thats not even true as you can just start a bit later, as long as you know you are just using voxels from that region |
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kahrl |
you mean like an octree that only spans one mapblock? |
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kahrl |
could be an interesting thing to try |
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iqualfragile_ |
kahrl: kinda, yes, only that the mapblock itself would be part of a bigger octree |
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iqualfragile_ |
just start at a sub-octree |
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iqualfragile_ |
that way the tree would be a bit more shallow |
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iqualfragile_ |
serializing it would be a problem, too, as you would either have to rewrite all of it or deal with badly ordered (fragmented) one |
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iqualfragile_ |
kahrl: hmm… well, just two more subdivides would make for a _lot_ more detail |
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iqualfragile_ |
i think that would be doable |
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iqualfragile_ |
16=>8=>4=>2=>1=>.5=>.25 would be seven steps… hmm… according to sea of meme that leads to serve problems with lighting |
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iqualfragile_ |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
iqualfragile_: RickRoll'D - YouTube |
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iqualfragile_ |
john_minetest: sure, np |
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iqualfragile_ |
gmt+1 |
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iqualfragile_ |
germany |
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iqualfragile_ |
john_minetest: ich dachte wir hätten uns das mit den invasionen abgewöhnt, ist schon häufiger schiefgelaufen |
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Exio4 |
!exiotime |
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!help exotime |
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https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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