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00:12 * hoodedice just discovered that it is not important to get the webchat captcha all correct
00:14 hoodedice VanessaE: Is it possible to manipulate textures from Minetest via modding?
00:15 crazyR_ you can run os commands from a mod, so you could create a bash script to do the minipulation maybe?
00:18 crazyR_ hhm thinking about it. that would depend on what your trying todo i suppose
00:19 hoodedice I was thinking
00:19 hoodedice Since the menu is a lua formspec
00:20 hoodedice What if we could implement a 'make your character' screen?
00:21 hoodedice In this, minetest would take pieces of pre-made textures and mash them into one single texture depending on the user's choices
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00:27 crazyR_ hmm its could be possible to create a perl script to do the minipulation with ImageMagick-perl then let the formspec just act as a control, the script would then save the new skin in the skins folder
00:28 hoodedice *cough*
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00:30 hoodedice crazyR_: http://i.imgur.com/YbxlstH.png
00:32 Exio4 crazyR_: textures are defined/loaded at load-time, not run-time
00:35 crazyR_ hoodedice:becuase i dont know if what you want todo can be done in lua/minetest so thought of a way that i know has some possibilities. Exio4: didnt know that. is there no way force a load/reload of them?
00:36 hoodedice There'e should be a way... Maybe a core engine change?
00:36 hoodedice I'll look at it in the next week
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02:19 UtalaylienHole oi
02:19 UtalaylienHole how do you map the controls to ur mouse?
02:19 UtalaylienHole i wanna bind right click to jump
02:22 UtalaylienHole ??
02:29 ShadowNinja ~tell hoodedice Don't use webchat with autojoin and a cloak.  You change host twice, and if you leave shortly after SB will ban-forward you for a join/quit flood.
02:29 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
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02:32 UtalaylienHole kinda dead init?
02:32 UtalaylienHole mouse binds
02:32 UtalaylienHole neone?
02:33 Eater4 Has there ever been a mod for irc windows?
02:33 UtalaylienHole wtf does that mean?
02:34 Eater4 Are you new?
02:34 UtalaylienHole yeah
02:34 UtalaylienHole i opened conf file and found the keybinds but i can't find ne mouse binds
02:34 Eater4 Ok i did not know..... 1 sec
02:34 UtalaylienHole im new to minetest not irc
02:35 Eater4 U want to change the keystroke?
02:35 UtalaylienHole i wanna bind right mouse to jump
02:35 UtalaylienHole middle mouse to use
02:35 Eater4 Go to settings in minetest
02:36 Eater4 Did u find it?
02:36 UtalaylienHole i was in there
02:37 UtalaylienHole i can bind keystrokes but not mouse clicks
02:37 UtalaylienHole here ill go in again if that wasnt what you were gonna recommend
02:37 UtalaylienHole im in
02:37 Eater4 You are in the area with all of the letters
02:38 UtalaylienHole im in the change keys section yes
02:38 Eater4 Click on them.....there should be a option for right click mouse......I think
02:38 ShadowNinja Eater4: The IRC mod *should* work on Windows.
02:38 UtalaylienHole dusnt werk for me
02:39 Eater4 I got the same error that I got for the irc mod :(
02:39 Eater4 Brb
02:39 ShadowNinja UtalaylienHole: What's the error?  You compiled it, right?
02:40 UtalaylienHole nah i just started up the game for the first time (ever) and went to change my keybinds
02:40 UtalaylienHole but when i try to bind mouse buttons i get nothing
02:40 UtalaylienHole so i was looking through the files and found a config
02:40 UtalaylienHole opened it up with notepad and couldnt find ne mouse binds in there either
02:41 ShadowNinja Oh.  I thought you meant the IRC mod.
02:42 UtalaylienHole what is this irc mod neways?
02:42 UtalaylienHole they got some kinda crazy script to run the game?
02:42 ShadowNinja There are old pre-compiled Windows versions, but I can probably update them by stripping out just the .dll.
02:42 ShadowNinja UtalaylienHole: It connects a Minetest server to an IRC channel, like this one.
02:42 UtalaylienHole i can play with space as jump, not that big of a deal
02:43 UtalaylienHole but if id have my druthers i'd be using the right mouse
02:43 UtalaylienHole and the middle mouse
02:43 UtalaylienHole so how caught up to minecraft is minetest neways?
02:44 ShadowNinja UtalaylienHole: I've heard it compared to MC alpha.  But I've never used MC, and it has a number of MC 1.0+ features.
02:45 ShadowNinja In fact MC has copied some things in Minetest.  :-)
02:45 ShadowNinja (Eg, nodenames and texture organization)
02:51 UtalaylienHole ne recommendations towards a peacful mindcraft server
02:51 Eater4 Shadow here is the error...(sorry I will use onenote next time) https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=CE​7D6BF4A1184414!1489&authkey=!AL3Zhmx​uAgspRCs&v=3&ithint=photo%2c.jpg
02:51 UtalaylienHole ?
02:51 Eater4 Have u been on a minetest sever
02:52 UtalaylienHole like i said i just installed the game
02:53 UtalaylienHole my buddy was playing a cracked version of minecraft that only suported local play
02:53 UtalaylienHole so i did a lil research and just found this game
02:53 Eater4 And also once u read that ShadowNinja if it is possible can u remove it?
02:53 Eater4 XD
02:54 Eater4 I found this game when I was sick and tired of me not bieng able to play wth my friends because u have to have the full version of MC
02:54 UtalaylienHole yup pretty much
02:55 Eater4 And I wasn't about to blow 30 dollars
02:55 UtalaylienHole i prolly would but my paypal is being a bitch right now
02:56 Eater4 Yup gotta love technogy :) #sarcasim
02:56 Eater4 Here want a sever that is piecefull
02:57 UtalaylienHole well my build that i downloaded has a pretty extensive list
02:57 Eater4 Join MG-Nore
02:58 Eater4 Or..... If u really want a sever VE-Minetest
03:00 UtalaylienHole hmm
03:00 UtalaylienHole dusnt seem to be an add server function
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03:06 Eater4 Go to client
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03:37 paramat hi hmmmm ... when i use default:stone or :desert_stone in my mapgen mods, minetest's own mapgen adds patches of grass and trees on top http://i.imgur.com/gTgXF9B.png any idea why?
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07:19 john_minetest Hey
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08:41 john_minetest Nepu vf gur orfg!
08:42 john_minetest !rot13 Nepu vf gur orfg!
08:42 john_minetest :(
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09:35 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Spanish Paella Day! :-D
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10:53 crazyR_ hi all, anyone got any experiance with zeg9's minetest-skins-skindb mod ??
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11:15 crazyR_ hmm, wierd, not sure what the deal is with minetest-skins-skindb mod but i had to hardcode the paths in the perl and bash scripts. seems to work that way. might have it read the paths from a config file and send a pull request, anyone else experianced this issue
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11:26 CWz is it me of is mesecons commandblock broken in the latest git?
11:30 Eater4 There know one here
11:30 Eater4 There is*
11:30 Eater4 *no
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12:00 CWz I think that everyone  are asleep now
12:01 crazyR_ im here
12:01 crazyR_ kinda
12:03 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlczxXqez-Y
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12:14 celeron55 i'm at work (like all europeans)
12:14 celeron55 (or school)
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12:15 PenguinDad I just came back from school
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12:27 sfan5 meow
12:27 sfan5 hi everyone
12:30 PenguinDad hi sfan5
12:37 crazyR_ hi sfan5
12:39 sfan5 !tell john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/KFF3C2O.jpg
12:39 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when john_minetest is around
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12:39 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
12:39 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
12:42 Exio4 the people from the other side may be sleeping tho
12:42 crazyR_ sfan5: have you used the minetest-skins-skindb mod by anychance?
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12:42 Exio4 it is 9:42(am) here, but I'm in UTC-3
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12:42 sfan5 crazyR_: no
12:43 crazyR_ sfan5: ok thanks anyway :)
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14:10 Megaf cool, I made my best machine so far
14:10 Megaf it plants a sapling, wait till it grows, then it take its trunk and leaves and as soon as it takes it plants another sapling, then loop
14:11 john_minetest http://asset-f.soup.io/asset/3027/7364_f179.png
14:12 Megaf john_minetest: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfro​nt.net/photo/adNRGz9_700b.jpg
14:13 john_minetest 9gag means that it is about a month old.
14:13 john_minetest First it appears on 4chan or reddit, shortafter imgur and after a month it reaches 9gag.
14:17 enchilado Some things start on imgur too
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14:18 john_minetest true
14:20 enchilado john_minetest: I can't wait until your image ends up on 9gag and has the watermark itself
14:24 crazyR anyone know the best way to disable things from showing in the craftguide. preferably without having to use the override function?
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14:47 PenguinDad What is/was Farmesh supposed to do?
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16:25 PenguinDad ~logger seenany BlockMen
16:25 ShadowBot PenguinDad: I saw BlockMen in #minetest 1 week, 6 days, 19 hours, 27 minutes, and 19 seconds ago parting (None)
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16:32 harrison “We certainly cannot deny to other nations that principle whereon our government is founded, that every nation has a right to govern itself internally under what forms it pleases, and to change these forms at its own will; and externally to transact business with other nations through whatever organ it chooses, whether that be a King, Convention, Assembly, Committee, President, or whatever it be. The only thing essential is, the will of
16:32 harrison the nation.” –Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Pinckney, 1792.
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17:14 celeron55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg
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17:32 john_minetest lol
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17:36 rubenwardy Jordach: sorry :P  https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=134987#p134987
17:37 Jordach you pulled me out of Simcity for this??!
17:38 Megaf rubenwardy: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=134987#p134987
17:38 rubenwardy yeah?
17:38 rubenwardy Sorry agin
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17:53 markveidemanis Hi
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18:00 rubenwardy New youtube video by me. A platforming game I made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF-NJj_JY_s
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18:02 celeron55 that sideways movement looks stupidly fast 8)
18:02 celeron55 and uncontrollable
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18:03 rubenwardy Yeah. It needs balancing
18:03 celeron55 it might seem reasonable if you add proper animation!
18:03 celeron55 at least it's unlike anything else
18:07 Calinou while we are talking abotu sideways movement, it would be nice to always keep some view bobbing around, even when not moving
18:07 Calinou when you don't move, keep slow view bobbing, to make the player feel "alive"
18:07 Calinou probably simple to do, but not sure how to do it
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18:24 rubenwardy Just pressed my power key on my computer case by accident, because I was trying to steady the case while plugining something in.
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18:31 matsetes Is there anyone who knows where is to put the mods in a Linux package installation?
18:33 meldrian ~/.minetest/mods (?)
18:34 sfan5 matsetes: ~/.minetest/mods
18:34 meldrian wohoo, i knew something!
18:34 matsetes Thank you
18:34 * sfan5 gives meldrian the I-knew-something-badge
18:34 matsetes Sorry but I usually used the compiled one
18:35 matsetes And I forgot where it has to be =)
18:35 specing rubenwardy: I got that case covered :P
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18:55 * Krock slaps everybody around a bit with a large trout
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19:01 john_minetest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5_PFSLXJEU
19:02 Krock !title
19:02 MinetestBot Krock: Family Guy (theme song) - A Cappella Barbershop Quartet - YouTube
19:03 john_minetest Lol, always those suspicious people who do !title
19:03 Krock :3
19:04 Krock "Using useful features to support lazyness of closing uninteresting YT tabs"
19:05 Jordach plol
19:05 Jordach so it turns out i'm decently skilled at city management https://cdn.mediacru.sh/whkBZagFHldt.png
19:05 Krock ahh title no work on images
19:06 Krock SimCity 5?
19:06 john_minetest The new simcity got so bad rating by let's players and others.
19:06 Jordach john_minetest, it's not actually bad
19:07 Jordach john_minetest, people want pick up and play these days, not full fucking featured games
19:07 Jordach (why'd you think the mobile gaming industry is full of dosh)
19:07 john_minetest Exactly.
19:07 john_minetest "people want pick up and play these days"
19:07 Jordach john_minetest, there are the old x000 SinCity features still there
19:08 john_minetest They fixed it now but requiring server connection was such a bad design decision...
19:08 john_minetest People just want to play. Requiring network with unstable servers was no good idea.
19:08 Jordach john_minetest, fun fact: i'm almost always in single-player mode
19:09 john_minetest Yes. Once SP mode required to be online.
19:09 john_minetest They fixed it now.
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19:10 john_minetest Also it became more and more an advertising game, where you are better if you get the add-ons like special electric cars from Honda or something like that.
19:10 john_minetest Free add-ons, still advertisement.
19:10 Jordach john_minetest, i only played for a few hours (and most youtubers take nearly a few days game time to actually get far in) and nearly got end-game ;P
19:10 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
19:11 Krock hi PilzAdam
19:11 john_minetest hi PilzAdam
19:11 * Jordach also worked out how to bump up the system sound driver to Linux levels
19:12 john_minetest Jordach: That being online was required in the beginning and the servers were doing weird stuff was pretty annoying. SP is also working offline NOW. But not back then.
19:13 Jordach turns out Beats Audio is just a fraud, it's just a convolution filter with the mid bands super tuned (and the rest rather level)
19:13 Krock lol... my IP changed..no wonder is my server no working
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19:14 rubenwardy Krock: http://www.noip.com/
19:14 Jordach rubenwardy, http://afraid.org
19:14 Krock rubenwardy, I know but I though it's not needed for me...yet
19:15 PenguinDad Jordach: http://duckdns.org
19:15 Jordach PenguinDad, b-b-b-b-but automated windows app
19:16 Jordach which just so happens to include jordach.minetest.net :P
19:16 rubenwardy Krock, it is easy to do
19:16 * Jordach considers getting more Chicken Tikka, that shit is tasty
19:18 Jordach for some reason before, i'd never eat beef / chicken, but now i appear to
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19:36 rubenwardy spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8912
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19:37 rubenwardy spam spam spam spam spam spam spam SPAAAAM!
19:37 rubenwardy #montypython
19:39 * sfan5 flips rubenwardy
19:39 rubenwardy !rainbow sfan5
19:39 MinetestBot 4s4f4a7n7​5
19:39 sfan5 not enough rainbow
19:39 rubenwardy !rainbow sfan5 smells like rainbows!
19:39 MinetestBot 4s4f4a7n7​57 8s8m8e3l3l3s li6k6e6 rai4n4b4o7w7s7!
19:40 sfan5 !rainbow 猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫猫
19:40 MinetestBot 4猫4猫4猫7猫7猫7猫8猫8猫8猫3猫3猫3猫猫猫猫6猫6猫​6猫猫猫猫4猫4猫4猫7猫7猫7猫8猫8猫8猫3猫3猫3猫猫猫
19:40 sfan5 rainbow cats
19:40 rubenwardy !rainbow sfan5 smells like rainbows!
19:40 MinetestBot 4s4f4a7n7​57 8s8m8e3l3l3s li6k6e6 rai4n4b4o7w7s7!
19:40 sfan5 meow
19:40 rubenwardy oops
19:43 PenguinDad ~rainbow it
19:43 ShadowBot PenguinDad: it
19:44 rubenwardy ~rainbow sfan5 smells like rainbows!
19:44 ShadowBot rubenwardy: sfan5 smells like rainbows!
19:44 sfan5 meow
19:44 sfan5 kitten
19:44 rubenwardy Why is shadowbot '-ShadowBot/#minetest-'?
19:44 sfan5 ShadowBot sends notices "to prevent bot loops"
19:44 sfan5 which is totally unnecessary IMHO
19:45 PilzAdam !rainbow nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan
19:45 MinetestBot 4n4y4a7n7 7n8y8a8n3 3n3yan 6n6y6an n4y4a4n7 7n7y8a8n8 3n3y3an n6y6a6n ny4a4n4 7n7y7a8n8 8n3y3a3n ny6a6n6 nya4n4 4n7y7a7n
19:45 VanessaE looks like "[ShadowBot]" on mine..
19:45 sfan5 ^ that rainbow is way better
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19:45 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: Because your client doesn't follow standards: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459.html#section-4.4.2
19:46 sfan5 ShadowNinja: that section does not say anything about how client shall display NOTICEs
19:46 ShadowNinja Using [] instead of <> is fine.  But it shouldn't be interpreted specially.  (Quassel is pretty good about that, but not perfect)
19:46 rubenwardy ?
19:47 rubenwardy !rainbow double ~rainbow yay!
19:47 MinetestBot 4d4o4u7b7l7e8 8~8r3a3i3nbow6 6y6ay!
19:47 ShadowNinja The NOTICE message is used similarly to PRIVMSG.  The difference between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies must never be sent in response to a NOTICE message.
19:47 rubenwardy !rainbow ~rainbow double rainbow!
19:47 MinetestBot 4~4r4a7i7n7b8o8w8 3d3o3uble6 6r6ainb4o4w4!
19:47 VanessaE ShadowNinja: btw, 0.10.0 is out.
19:47 ShadowNinja ^ That's the ONLY difference.
19:47 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Yep, heard.
19:47 sfan5 they are not talking about visual differences
19:47 rubenwardy why does that mean my "client doesn't follow standards"?
19:47 VanessaE (came in with my auto updates)
19:47 sfan5 rubenwardy: ShadowBot ignores MinetestBot anyway
19:48 rubenwardy Nothing about visual things there
19:48 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, I dont see where it defines how to display it
19:48 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: I aditionally added a ignore for MinetestBot.  I don't think phenny even has a notice option.
19:48 sfan5 I could add one at any time
19:48 sfan5 but I don't want to
19:49 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: You can display it however you want.  But you shouldn't unterpret it as a server message, hilight, or anything like that.
19:49 sfan5 how do you know that "-ShadowBot/#minetest-" is supposed to be server message?
19:49 PilzAdam why dont you send it as a normal message?
19:49 sfan5 s/that/whether/
19:49 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: What?
19:50 PilzAdam why do you send it as a NOTICE?
19:50 ShadowNinja sfan5: The /#minetest implies that it will be displayed in windows other than the channel window, or that a client author is redundant.
19:50 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: See the RFC.
19:51 rubenwardy it is in the channel window
19:52 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: It will probably show up in the status window if that one's active.  It might even show up in whatever window you're on.
19:52 rubenwardy some one say ~rainbow hi
19:52 rubenwardy nvm
19:52 rubenwardy ~rainbow hi
19:52 ShadowBot rubenwardy: hi
19:53 rubenwardy ~c sqrt(2893)
19:53 sfan5 !c math.sqrt(2893)
19:53 MinetestBot 53.786615435440815
19:53 ShadowNinja ~aka add c calc
19:53 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, "The NOTICE message is used similarly to PRIVMSG." "PRIVMSG is used to send private messages between users."
19:53 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
19:53 sfan5 aha
19:53 rubenwardy ~c sqrt(2893)
19:53 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
19:53 sfan5 lol
19:53 rubenwardy ~c math.sqrt(2893)
19:53 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
19:53 ShadowNinja ~aka-update c Math calc
19:53 ShadowBot O.K. O.K.
19:54 rubenwardy ~c Math.sqrt(2893)
19:54 ShadowBot rubenwardy: math calc <math expression>
19:54 sfan5 lol
19:54 sfan5 it is trolling you
19:54 PilzAdam /ignore ShadowBot ALL
19:54 rubenwardy ~math sqrt(42)
19:54 ShadowNinja ...
19:54 rubenwardy ~Math sqrt(42)
19:54 sfan5 ~calc sqrt(42)
19:54 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
19:54 ShadowNinja ~c sqrt(42)
19:54 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: math calc <math expression>
19:54 rubenwardy ~calc math calc sqrt(42)
19:54 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
19:54 ShadowNinja ~c 42*2
19:54 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: math calc <math expression>
19:54 ShadowNinja Hmmm.
19:54 sfan5 I'm glad I don't have all this unnecessary stuff in MinetestBot
19:54 rubenwardy ~calc 42^(1/2)
19:54 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
19:55 sfan5 s/unnecessary/troubling/
19:55 rubenwardy ~math calc 42^(1/2)
19:55 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
19:55 sfan5 -> ##shadowbot pls
19:55 rubenwardy ~math calc 42+2
19:55 ShadowBot rubenwardy: 44
19:55 rubenwardy ~math calc 42^(1/2)
19:55 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
19:55 rubenwardy that sucks
19:55 ShadowNinja ~ignore rubenwardy
19:55 rubenwardy ~math calc 42^(1/2)
19:55 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
19:55 ShadowNinja ~admin ignore rubenwardy
19:55 rubenwardy Your bot sucks
19:55 sfan5 lel
19:55 rubenwardy Sorry, it is the truth
19:56 sfan5 rubenwardy: s/sucks/is bad/
19:56 sfan5 don't be so hard
19:56 ShadowNinja ~admin ignore add rubenwardy
19:56 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
19:56 rubenwardy lol
19:56 rubenwardy !rainbow ShadowNinja smells like rainbows!
19:56 MinetestBot 4S4h4a7d7o7w8N8i8n3j3a3 sme6l6l6s li4k4e4 7r7a7i8n8b8o3w3s3!
19:56 PilzAdam ~admin ignore add new nick with characters rubenwardy
19:56 ShadowBot PilzAdam: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:56 sfan5 ~whoami
19:56 ShadowBot sfan5: I don't recognize you.
19:57 sfan5 ~whoami
19:57 ShadowBot sfan5: sfan5
19:57 vile_potato ~math calc 42^(1/2)
19:57 ShadowBot vile_potato: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
19:57 PenguinDad Who Ami?
19:57 sfan5 ahahah
19:57 vile_potato #lol
19:57 sfan5 oh wait
19:57 rubenwardy ~math calc 42^(1/2)
19:57 sfan5 I shouldn't laugh
19:57 sfan5 MinetestBot is vuln to the same thing
19:57 rubenwardy 2Security error!
19:57 ShadowNinja ~admin ignore add *!*@unaffiliated/rubenwardy
19:57 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
19:57 sfan5 !c 42**(1/2)
19:57 MinetestBot 1
19:58 sfan5 !c 42**(1/2.0)
19:58 MinetestBot 6.48074069840786
19:58 sfan5 the former is probably what you wanted
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19:58 PilzAdam !c 6.48074069840786 * 6.48074069840786
19:58 MinetestBot 42.0
19:58 vile_potato ~math calc 42^(1/2)
19:58 ShadowBot vile_potato: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
19:58 sfan5 s/former/latter/
19:58 PenguinDad ~math calc 42**(1/2.0)
19:58 ShadowBot PenguinDad: 6.48074069840786
19:59 sfan5 wait what
19:59 rubenwardy that is very stupid
19:59 sfan5 !c 42**0.5 == math.sqrt(42)
19:59 MinetestBot True
19:59 PenguinDad the ^ was the problem
19:59 sfan5 TIL
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19:59 Miner_48er sfan5 what do you think of this idea? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8910
19:59 rubenwardy Why would they use ** rather than ^?
19:59 rubenwardy ^ is standard!
19:59 sfan5 !c 42**0.25 == math.sqrtmath.sqrt(42)
19:59 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'sqrtmath'
19:59 sfan5 !c 42**0.25 == math.sqrt(math.sqrt(42))
19:59 MinetestBot True
19:59 sfan5 ooh
19:59 sfan5 nice
20:00 sfan5 more TIL
20:00 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: ^ is standard for bitwise XOR.
20:00 sfan5 rubenwardy: link ot IETF? I just seem to use it because it's python syntax
20:00 sfan5 to*
20:00 rubenwardy https://encrypted.google.co​m/search?hl=en&amp;q=%3D42^%281%2F2%29
20:01 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: Python is a programing language, not just a math language.  And !c is really !py, it's just a little harder to run things like rm -rf /.
20:02 ShadowNinja (A little, I'm quite sure it's possible)
20:02 sfan5 rubenwardy: http://localdoma.in/
20:02 Jordach redirs to http://google.se
20:02 sfan5 ~math calc __import__("os").popen("uname -a").read()
20:02 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression. Please remove them.
20:02 rubenwardy I want to run calculations, not python code
20:03 sfan5 ShadowNinja: There's really no reason why you should have brackets in your mathematical expression.
20:03 sfan5 wat
20:03 * Garmine should fix notices sending a bell to his terminal but these playing sessions with ShadowBot are hilarious
20:04 ShadowNinja sfan5: Well, can you think of a good reason to allow them?
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20:05 Garmine like (1+1)/2 ?
20:05 ShadowNinja sfan5: SB's calc isn't just eval().
20:05 sfan5 mine isn't either
20:05 vile_potato ~rainbow ShadowBot smells
20:05 Jordach HOLY SHIT
20:05 Jordach HOLY SHIT
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20:05 * sfan5 flips Jordach
20:05 ShadowNinja sfan5: You rewrote it recently?
20:05 Jordach THIS DID NOT JUST HAPPEN
20:06 PilzAdam Jordach's capslock broke apparently
20:06 sfan5 ShadowNinja: it uses eval() but it wasn't "just" eval() for one git revision
20:06 rubenwardy Jordach found the peanut he dropped down the side of his desk last month
20:07 sfan5 ShadowNinja: https://github.com/sfan5/minetes​tbot-modules/blob/master/calc.py
20:07 ShadowNinja sfan5: Well, it uses phenny.reply() and the like too, but you know what I mean.
20:07 ShadowNinja sfan5: https://github.com/haypo/pysandbox/
20:08 sfan5 why do you link me that?
20:08 rubenwardy He wants MinetestBot to be infected with crap, like ShadowBot.
20:09 john_minetest The moment is come. I finally understand that shirt: http://www.developermemes.com/wp-content/​uploads/2014/01/CSS-Sucks-TShirt-Meme.jpg
20:10 rubenwardy Don't use fixed widths, john_minetest :P
20:10 sfan5 overflow: hidden; or min-width: 200px;
20:10 rubenwardy or word-wrap: break-word; or the like
20:10 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Rz6OgJSKV-5w.png
20:11 Jordach god fucking dammit
20:11 sfan5 Jordach: wut
20:11 Jordach sfan5, dem sharp corners minus the fucking drivers
20:11 sfan5 I don't understand a word
20:11 Jordach sfan5, see my other renders
20:12 sfan5 (except the "dem" "sharp" "minus" and "the")
20:12 Jordach notice the arms and legs have a literal sharp bend
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20:13 sfan5 sfan5.eyes.use(find(renders, age=age.OLD, from=Jordach))
20:13 rubenwardy ~google calc 42^(1/2)   may work as I want it too
20:13 rubenwardy *to
20:14 ShadowNinja sfan5: Read the warning.
20:14 Jordach sfan5, http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/​Experimental-Cute-Model-434760490 :P
20:15 Jordach even the fingers use em
20:15 sfan5 ah
20:15 Jordach my current system just moves the verts to do it
20:15 Jordach i had a bone setup, but it didn't work
20:15 Jordach (as i wanted)
20:16 Jordach ...or i'm doing it wrong
20:17 rubenwardy $sfan->eyes->use(Array(['mode'] => "find", ['what']=>"renders", ['params']=>Array(age_OLD, $jordach)));
20:17 celeron55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoI6ESP9aw
20:17 celeron55 "HOW EXCITING IS YOUR BREAKFAST"
20:17 PilzAdam !title
20:17 MinetestBot PilzAdam: JetFAST Cereal-The most EXCITING CEREAL you can have. - YouTube
20:17 sfan5 rubenwardy: no php please
20:17 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I know
20:17 rubenwardy lol
20:18 rubenwardy PHP is the best language ever!
20:18 ShadowNinja sfan5: So, will you use a different parser?
20:18 rubenwardy "12334kittens" = 12334
20:18 rubenwardy "12334kittens" == 12334
20:18 sfan5 ShadowNinja: parser?
20:18 ShadowNinja sfan5: Yes...
20:19 sfan5 ShadowNinja: where is a parser in my code?
20:19 ShadowNinja eval() is a parser, it parses as Python.
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20:21 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I want to be able to use python features
20:21 sfan5 I think it's pretty safe
20:22 ShadowNinja sfan5: Someone that's spent a lot more time than you sandboxing Python disaggrees with you.  And you have !py.
20:23 sfan5 well.. how do you break out of the sandbox without __? !py is only usable by me
20:23 sfan5 it's not even a sandbox
20:23 sfan5 just less methods than you can use normally
20:24 Jordach bull
20:24 sfan5 Jordach: spotify:track:4sVHSnOi2z3pohve2hZhrU
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20:46 ShadowNinja sfan5: I don't know.  Look through pysandbox to find out.
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21:04 kaeza greetings
21:05 crazyR hi
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21:16 crazyR hey anyone here got experiance with the 3d armor mod, specifacly customising it
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21:42 paramat can anyone solve this mystery? ... when i use default:stone or :desert_stone in my mapgens, unwanted patches of dirt, grass and trees appear http://i.imgur.com/gTgXF9B.png
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21:47 VanessaE known issue
21:48 VanessaE it happens if you worldedit a huge structure in e.g. a big sphere or something into some as-yet ungenerated blocks
21:48 paramat thanks :)
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22:04 john_minetest Hey, look at that channel! A channel without jumpcuts and niveau-less content: https://www.youtube.com/user/rhetta​ndlink2/videos?flow=grid&amp;view=0
22:09 domtron Each player can hold metadata, right? Is that metadata persistent for a server/world? And how dose one modify it. I'm looking through the API but I'm not finding the information.
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