Time Nick Message 00:04 Eater4 Hello 00:10 hoodedice ? 00:19 Eater4 Ok I am done :) 01:04 hoodedice sfan5! 01:04 hoodedice Jordach! 01:04 hoodedice Whoever! 01:05 hoodedice bah -.- 01:07 hoodedice PilzAdam! 01:07 PilzAdam wasssssssuuuuuuuup 01:17 ShadowNinja MinetestBot: Tell me message 1! 01:17 ShadowNinja Hmmm. 01:17 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^ 02:15 kahrl yay for math! http://imgur.com/w2o0WFZ 02:15 Menche :D 02:15 Menche lol 02:15 kahrl (names removed to protect the guilty) 02:15 Menche (most of the names) 02:16 ShadowNinja Hehe. 02:16 kahrl hehe 02:19 Eater4 Shadow ninja did you see my message? 02:41 PiIzAdam Just so you all know, I'm leaving Minetest. So go ahead and ban me on the forums. 02:41 * Menche can tell capital i from lowercase L 03:00 VanessaE nice fake. :P 03:00 VanessaE Some of us aren't stupid enough to use fonts that make I look like l. PiIzAdam != PilzAdam 03:37 ShadowNinja Eater4: Yes, but I need a specific error message to help you fix it. 03:42 Eater4 1 sec 04:20 Eater4 It just says failure to run inti or master inti I think. I will have to get on my computer Tommorw. And share the pic w/ Onedrive 04:20 Eater4 .lua 04:21 Eater4 But it says it for every one I download off the internet 04:25 Eater4 Hm I want to be a irc op for #minetest isis.inchra.net 04:31 ShadowNinja Eater4: A IRC op is a network operator. But I don't think you're ready for either network or channel op access. 04:31 ShadowNinja Eater4: You can copy and paste it from a terminal or debug.txt (use a pastebin like sprunge.us) 04:32 Eater4 Oh ok....when do u think I might be ready.... And k I will do that 04:34 ShadowNinja Eater4: A while. But I will add you then. Please don't ask for special privileges. 04:38 Eater4 Ok.... 04:38 Eater4 I have self-body control.... 07:44 celeron55 does there exist a hud map mod somewhere? 07:46 celeron55 okay one is called mapp 07:48 kahrl there's this but it's not a mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8489 09:06 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Tolkien Reading Day! :-D 09:14 JamesTait Hey john_minetest. :) 09:14 JamesTait I'm still lurking. ;) 09:14 crazyR morning 10:32 hoodedice sfan5, wtf? 10:32 hoodedice The last shit I ever wanted to see was seeing this community split up like bacteria 10:49 CWz compiling issues are pretty common with freeminer lately 10:54 crazyR hmm am i only seeing some messages on here or is there a private convo going on 10:57 diemartin pretty quiet morning 11:01 crazyR yep. tbh though i been busy all morning, damn world files are corrupt on my server. n last backup i have is 2 days old. was funny till the server crashed. half of a building was in mid air its like the chunks had randomly moved 12:38 CWz Greetings 12:38 sfan5 meoe 12:38 sfan5 meow* 12:38 sfan5 hi everyone 12:40 hoodedice PiIzAdam Just so you all know, I'm leaving Minetest. So go ahead and ban me on the forums. 12:40 hoodedice (lolwut) 12:41 sfan5 wat 12:41 PenguinDad what O_o 12:42 hoodedice http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-03-25#i_3627739 12:48 sfan5 hoodedice: seems legit 12:48 hoodedice legit? 12:48 hoodedice That l looks like a capital I 12:49 PenguinDad not for me :P 12:50 sfan5 it is a capital i 12:50 enchilado Definitely a capital I. 12:50 hoodedice then? 12:50 enchilado That is, a capital i, not a capital l. 12:50 hoodedice ofc fake 12:51 sfan5 tw 12:52 sfan5 s/.*// 12:52 hoodedice ? 13:38 rubenwardy Hi all 13:42 CWz Hello] 13:47 rubenwardy oh god: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134726#p134726 13:47 rubenwardy !title 13:47 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Post your mod requests/ideas here (Page 35) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 13:47 hoodedice Another one? 13:49 hoodedice Le me do the 13:49 hoodedice ~rtf\m 13:49 hoodedice ~rtfm 13:49 ShadowBot Read the friendly manual. See http://dev.minetest.net, http://git.io/olBD2w, and http://git.io/5COZ7A. 13:49 hoodedice Thank you, ShadowBot 14:01 hoodedice PilzAdam: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-03-25#i_3627739 14:01 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:01 rubenwardy Hi! 14:01 hoodedice Confirmed. PilzAdam is not leaving us. 14:01 hoodedice *sob* 14:02 PilzAdam if someone joins with my nick just wait 30 seconds 14:02 PilzAdam has someone the IP of him? 14:02 hoodedice lol 14:02 hoodedice Not in the logs, have to ask VanessaE or Menche 14:04 sfan5 :-( 14:04 sfan5 whowas doesn't remember him 14:04 celeron55 whowas of freenode is utterly useless 14:04 celeron55 it never remembers anyone when you want it to 14:05 celeron55 but i guess it's good for privacy 14:05 sfan5 :O 14:05 sfan5 celer*n55 in in this channel 14:05 sfan5 this is new 14:05 sfan5 you used to not be here 14:05 sfan5 s/to not/not to/ 14:05 hoodedice The GM thingy broughthim here 14:05 hoodedice =/ 14:05 celeron55 no 14:06 hoodedice Spring Break? 14:06 celeron55 i came here because of the first line i said after i came 14:06 sfan5 does there exist a hud map mod somewhere? 14:06 hoodedice hmm. 14:06 hoodedice There's that one that is an engine add-on 14:07 sfan5 was already said 14:08 celeron55 and all the answers to the question were already said; then i just didn't leave 14:08 sfan5 please don' leave, we like you :-) 14:08 sfan5 +t 14:09 sfan5 what reason did you stop being in #minetest anyway? 14:09 sfan5 +for 14:09 hoodedice The spamming? 14:09 hoodedice And the obvious off-topic talk here 14:20 CWz what is a whowas 14:21 hoodedice *whhois 14:21 hoodedice **whois 14:21 PenguinDad it is sort of /whois for the past 14:21 sfan5 hoodedice: there is also whowas 14:21 hoodedice oh, yeah lol 14:21 CWz what does it do? 14:22 PenguinDad and there is who 14:22 sfan5 CWz: can show you the whois of someone who already left 14:22 celeron55 well at the moment /whowas Leoneof shows a result 14:22 celeron55 while that one left half an hour ago 14:23 celeron55 it seems like freenode probably stores them for 1h 14:33 sfan5 >celeron, you may want to get rid of hoodedice before he gets you guys sued. 14:33 sfan5 lel 14:33 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134747#p134747 14:33 * hoodedice has been banned from the forums 14:33 hoodedice wut? 14:33 hoodedice lol 14:34 sfan5 hoodedice: stop saying false things 14:40 VanessaE all I got was 2ea5dde6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.165.221.230 14:40 VanessaE for the PilzAdam fake. 14:45 DeepGaze just curiosity from someone who does not understand the subject: 14:45 DeepGaze https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134747#p134747 14:45 DeepGaze what is happening 14:45 PenguinDad john_minetest: it's a vpn 14:45 hoodedice I gave his game bad ratings on WOT 14:46 hoodedice https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/globeminner.com#view 14:46 hoodedice Which in turn reduces Google based traffic to his site 14:46 hoodedice He wants me to delete it 14:47 DeepGaze not the issue with you: the issue with globalminner 14:47 hoodedice They were initially selling MT for $15 14:48 DeepGaze Why? 14:48 DeepGaze does that breach the licence? and in what way 14:50 us`0gb It only breaches the license if they don't include source code. 14:50 us`0gb I'm not sure if they do or not. 14:52 rubenwardy New profile picture! https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2051 14:59 PilzAdam DeepGaze, it doesnt violate the licence as far as we know, but its against the ideas of morality of some community members to sell stuff that you have done nothing for 14:59 PilzAdam rubenwardy, there is no texture atlas since 0.4.6 15:01 rubenwardy It would be good in punbb if you could undelete posts, and then take away a user's privilege to delete posts. Just thinking. 15:01 rubenwardy Not necessarily related to the current scenario 15:01 rubenwardy ah 15:01 rubenwardy thanks, PilzAdam, I didn't know that :P 15:03 rubenwardy DeepGaze, this sums it up: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134419#p134419 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134575#p134575 15:03 rubenwardy :P 15:14 celeron55 nothing sums it up; practically everybody talking in there is wrong 15:15 celeron55 and everyone thinks they are right 15:16 celeron55 it doesn't help the issue that the globeminer person is rather childish too in the way he gets stuck arguing with 15 year olds 15:16 rubenwardy Back XD 15:16 celeron55 it's just a farce 15:17 rubenwardy true 15:17 rubenwardy By sums up, i mean the "uneffical" side / argument thing 15:18 rubenwardy It is probably for the best that it was deleted 15:19 rubenwardy Nice word, farce. 15:23 celeron55 hmm, who moved it to trash? 15:24 celeron55 oh no need to tell, there's the moderator log 15:25 rubenwardy A general question: Where do you see Minetest in a year? 15:26 rubenwardy (to anyone) 15:26 hoodedice 5.0.0 15:26 sfan5 lolno 15:26 rubenwardy lol 15:26 sfan5 more like 0.5.3 15:26 rubenwardy !c 0.4.9/3 15:26 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 15:26 rubenwardy !c 0.49/3 15:26 MinetestBot 0.16333333333333333 15:26 hoodedice *0.5.0 15:26 rubenwardy !c 0.16333*4 15:26 MinetestBot 0.65332 15:27 hoodedice RBA - At this rate, we won't hit 1.0 in the next century 15:27 rubenwardy At the current rate of progress, 0.6.5 15:27 rubenwardy apparently 15:27 rubenwardy meh 15:27 rubenwardy bad calculation 15:27 hoodedice When he was told that next version is 0.4.10 and not 0.5.0 15:27 sfan5 !c "calculate" 15:27 MinetestBot 'calculate' 15:27 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 15:27 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 15:27 hoodedice #strung 15:27 rubenwardy ha 15:27 hoodedice *Strng 15:27 hoodedice **String 15:30 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr(ord(t[0]) ^ ord(t[1])) for t in zip("String", '8\x1d\x06\x1d\x0b\t')) 15:30 MinetestBot 'kitten' 15:30 sfan5 ^ rubenwardy 15:31 rubenwardy oh god 15:31 rubenwardy wow 15:31 hoodedice Such string. 15:31 sfan5 I proved that kittens are in string 15:31 sfan5 s/kittens are/kitten is/ 15:32 hoodedice brb 15:33 rubenwardy I hope that client side scripting will be a thing next year 15:34 celeron55 !c ''.join(x for x in xrange(0,2**31)) 15:34 celeron55 does it work? 8) 15:34 CWz I think the next year minetest will be on version 0.4.20 15:34 celeron55 best troll ever 5/5 15:34 sfan5 lol 15:35 CWz what troll 15:35 sfan5 wat 15:35 celeron55 wait what, why did it even fail 15:35 sfan5 it just exited 15:35 sfan5 [LOG]: celeron55 calculated '''.join(x for x in xrange(0,2**31))' 15:35 sfan5 user@butterfly:~/mtbot$ 15:35 sfan5 no error, nothing 15:35 celeron55 that was an erroneus statement, it would have needed str(x) instead of x to work 15:36 PenguinDad celeron55: you killed her 15:36 sfan5 [2413688.546168] Out of memory in UB 3425: OOM killed process 3682 (python) score 0 vm:647624kB, rss:122736kB, swap:229676kB 15:36 sfan5 this makes sense 15:36 celeron55 oh maybe it works in some version of python... whatever 15:37 sfan5 it only throws the error when the generator finished providing numbers 15:37 celeron55 ah 15:37 sfan5 try ''.join(x for x in xrange(31)) 15:37 sfan5 try ''.join(x for x in xrange(31)) 15:37 celeron55 on my laptop it just went fine 15:37 sfan5 (wtf?! xchat) 15:38 celeron55 oh wait... i fail too 15:38 celeron55 okay so it first generates and then converts, that makes sense, yes 15:38 sfan5 welp 15:38 sfan5 need more mem 15:38 sfan5 8G not enough 15:38 celeron55 i have 16, let's see 15:39 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") 15:39 MinetestBot 4 15:39 celeron55 12065 celeron+ 20 0 19,604g 0,014t 348 R 48,2 92,3 0:46.39 python 15:39 celeron55 not gonna work 15:39 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") * int(0,2**31) 15:39 MinetestBot OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum 15:39 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1.0L * int(0,2**31) 15:39 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 15:39 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1L * int(0,2**31) 15:39 MinetestBot OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum 15:39 sfan5 I can't python any more :-( 15:40 celeron55 you get the error from int() 15:40 sfan5 ah 15:40 celeron55 it's one too large 15:40 sfan5 !c long 15:40 MinetestBot 15:40 celeron55 you need 2**31-1 8) 15:40 sfan5 !c 0,2**31 15:40 MinetestBot (0, 2147483648) 15:40 sfan5 wat 15:41 sfan5 oh right 15:41 sfan5 , is for tuple and . is decimal point 15:41 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1L * 2**31 15:41 MinetestBot 8589934592L 15:41 sfan5 !c 8 * 1L * 2**31 / 1024.0 / 1024.0 / 1024.0 15:41 MinetestBot 16.0 15:42 sfan5 seems like you need exactly 16gb ram 15:42 sfan5 hm 15:42 celeron55 python isn't that efficient 15:43 celeron55 there's probably at least one pointer and some extra bytes per value 15:43 sfan5 let's rewrite it in C 15:44 celeron55 yeah, let's make a bot that runs any C code you give to it 15:44 hoodedice ... 15:44 celeron55 sounds like a fine idea 15:44 hoodedice What exactly are you guys trying to compute? 15:44 sfan5 hoodedice: numbers 15:44 celeron55 nothing useful 15:45 hoodedice sfan5: I see that PilzAdam has been effecting you lately =) 15:45 celeron55 i just wanted to see all the numbers between 0 and 2^31 but the bot didn't let me :-/ 15:46 sfan5 !py n = __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing && /tmp/thing", shell=True);n.write("#include \nvoid main(){printf("Hello World!\n");}");n.read() 15:46 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py) 15:46 sfan5 oh 15:46 sfan5 would be too nice if that'd work 15:46 rubenwardy !py print("hi") 15:47 rubenwardy !py sys.exit(-1) 15:47 rubenwardy Nope :P 15:48 hoodedice Let's keep it simple 15:48 celeron55 !c open("/etc/passwd").read() 15:48 MinetestBot NameError: name 'open' is not defined 15:48 celeron55 some kind of sandbox 8) 15:48 hoodedice !py value = 10 print value 15:48 hoodedice ... 15:48 hoodedice !py print value 15:48 sfan5 hoodedice: stop trying !py, only I can use it 15:48 hoodedice MinetestBot! 15:48 MinetestBot hoodedice! 15:48 rubenwardy You probably need admin rights with MinetestBot 15:49 hoodedice Yaay, I gets feedback 15:49 rubenwardy 3> MinetestBot 15:49 hoodedice rubenwardy, ur doin its wrongs 15:49 PenguinDad E> MinetestBot 15:49 rubenwardy E> 15:49 rubenwardy 3> 15:49 rubenwardy 3< 15:49 rubenwardy oh well 15:50 sfan5 rubenwardy: it's <3 15:50 rubenwardy <3 MinetestBot 15:50 MinetestBot <3 rubenwardy 15:50 hoodedice <3 MinetestBot 15:50 MinetestBot <3 hoodedice 15:50 rubenwardy oh yeah 15:50 hoodedice Ninjas, ninjas everywhere 15:50 MinetestBot <3 john_minetest 15:51 hoodedice sfan5, bot abuses 15:51 harrison Does the government have a moon base? Does the government have a talking bear? Does the government have a cyborg army? 15:51 harrison i am not a bear 15:51 hoodedice MinetestBot, go away 15:51 harrison i am a free mammal! 15:51 rubenwardy !kick MinetestBot 15:51 hoodedice *cough* 15:51 * hoodedice kicks MinetestBot 15:51 hoodedice john_minetest: Taliban 15:51 rubenwardy EastAsia 15:51 hoodedice *Pfft* 15:52 rubenwardy * cough * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four 15:52 hoodedice Could be Russia 15:52 * hoodedice has been Ninja'd 15:52 hoodedice Cyborgs could be Japanese 15:53 sfan5 !py v = 1 15:53 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py) 15:53 hoodedice Everyone, what is your favourite MinetestBot moment? 15:54 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include \nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}") 15:54 MinetestBot TypeError: popen() takes no keyword arguments (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py) 15:54 sfan5 cmon 15:54 sfan5 __import__("os").popen("gcc - -o /tmp/thing").write("#include \nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}") 15:54 sfan5 !pc __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include \nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}") 15:54 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include \nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}") 15:54 MinetestBot TypeError: popen() takes no keyword arguments (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py) 15:54 hoodedice *!py 15:54 sfan5 i give up 15:54 sfan5 too stupid to do things 15:54 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing").write("#include \nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}") 15:54 hoodedice Definitely not sfan5's favourite moment. 15:55 sfan5 oops 15:55 sfan5 MinetestBot! 15:55 MinetestBot sfan5! 15:55 sfan5 *phew* 15:55 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("/tmp/thing").read() 15:55 MinetestBot '' 15:55 sfan5 :-( 15:55 hoodedice thing is what? 15:55 hoodedice Have you defined thing? 15:55 PilzAdam I think we should stop abusing the bots now 15:55 sfan5 gcc was supposed to write there 15:56 * hoodedice agrees with PilzAdam 15:56 * PenguinDad pets MinetestBot 15:56 rubenwardy !rainbow I think we should stop abusing the bots now 15:56 MinetestBot 4<4P4i7l7z7A8d8a8m3>3 3I12 12t12h6i6n6k13 13w13e4 4s4h7o7u7l8d8 8s3t3o3p12 12a12b6u6s6i13n13g13 4t4h4e7 7b7o8t8s8 3n3o3w 15:56 hoodedice *cough* 15:56 sfan5 !rainbow raaaaaaiiiinnnnboooooowww 15:56 MinetestBot 4r4a4a7a7a7a8a8i8i3i3i3n12n12n12n6b6o6o13o13o13o4o4w4w7w 15:57 rubenwardy Wooo! 15:57 hoodedice I see the PilzAdam effect 15:57 Hirato !rainbow This is pretty fabulous 15:57 MinetestBot 4T4h4i7s7 7i8s8 8p3r3e3t12t12y12 6f6a6b13u13l13o4u4s 15:57 hoodedice *PilzAdam ripple effect 15:57 hoodedice !ignore sfan5 Hirato rubenwardy 15:57 * rubenwardy read "nipple effect" 15:57 * hoodedice slaps rubenwardy 15:57 Hirato :( 15:57 sfan5 !ignore hoodedice 15:57 MinetestBot sfan5: 'hoodedice' added to ignore list. 15:57 sfan5 :D 15:57 hoodedice Get your head out of the gutter, dude. 15:57 sfan5 !unignore hoodedice 15:57 MinetestBot sfan5: 'hoodedice' removed from ignore list. 15:58 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 15:58 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 15:58 hoodedice =) 15:58 Hirato nipple ripple 15:58 hoodedice Look at this pic of a bare nipple http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yDZ_9b2nHz0/TCvZym2eraI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/OXpFSSLpV2s/s1600/bottle%20nipple.jpg 15:58 sfan5 *regenerates irc stats* 15:58 rubenwardy NO 15:58 celeron55 so, if someone is still wondering why i'm not usually here, maybe the answer becomes clear by following the discussion 15:58 hoodedice ^^ 15:58 celeron55 this is the most random channel ever in existence 15:59 rubenwardy lol 15:59 hoodedice I told ya'll so 15:59 Hirato awh, I love you too~! 15:59 rubenwardy #minetest-offtopic is fun! 15:59 celeron55 i am on channels that don't even have any topic 15:59 celeron55 but they are more on-topic than this one 15:59 sfan5 but we don't have any !rainbows in #minete3st-dev 15:59 sfan5 -3 15:59 Hirato I'm on plenty of those on quakenet :M 16:00 sfan5 !rainbow hey there's Jordach 16:00 MinetestBot 4h4e4y7 7t7h8e8r8e3'3s3 12J12o12r6d6a6c13h13 16:00 hoodedice Jordach! 16:00 hoodedice !tell Jordach hi! 16:00 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 16:00 hoodedice *cough* 16:00 Jordach wat 16:00 Jordach wat 16:00 sfan5 MinetestBot! 16:00 MinetestBot sfan5! 16:01 sfan5 are you broken again? 16:01 hoodedice [11:55] I think we should stop abusing the bots now 16:01 rubenwardy It would be hilarious if MinetestBot mimicked everything you say with !rainbow Maybe for specific users. 16:01 hoodedice Everyone pulls the PilzAdam on PilzAdam. 16:01 sfan5 rubenwardy: ofc I already have that function 16:01 sfan5 +ality 16:01 Hirato hoodedice is actually a contraction of hoodeDice, or hooded Dice; a gang of 6 sided die rampaging around the neighborhood and somehow rolling 20's 16:01 rubenwardy ha 16:01 hoodedice ha. 16:02 sfan5 ok, IRC stats updated 16:02 hoodedice Yaay 16:02 sfan5 ( http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html for the uninformed) 16:02 hoodedice " who the fuck hosts server on windows?" 16:02 sfan5 25 NekoGloop 3578 12991625611556 yesterday "pilz you're the biggest troll here" 16:03 hoodedice hehe 16:03 sfan5 16 rubenwardy 6160 18544231 today "!rainbow I think we should stop abusing the bots now" 16:03 sfan5 this one too 16:03 rubenwardy I like that 16:03 rubenwardy wow! I was the last one to use "where" 16:03 DeepGaze is there a teleport tutorial for immature mod makers 16:04 hoodedice Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 42 times. 16:04 sfan5 I also patched pisg to ignore nicknames with 5 or less chars 16:04 sfan5 DeepGaze: lua_api.txt 16:04 rubenwardy "There" is a nick 16:04 hoodedice DeepGaze, just use minetest get players in radius 16:04 hoodedice And then use minetest set pos 16:04 hoodedice or player set pos 16:04 sfan5 or rather just minetest.get_player_by_name("deepgaze").setpos({x=1, y=2, z=3}) 16:04 Hirato well shit, I've spammed 1275 messages^W^W^W shared 1275 thoughts 16:04 hoodedice Remember to quit the loop if you loop it 16:05 DeepGaze i am meaning making a three point teleporter 16:05 hoodedice One of my biggest looping shenanigans - I forget to return. 16:05 hoodedice Owait.... 16:05 DeepGaze a-b controlled by c 16:05 DeepGaze all A,B andC baing blocks 16:05 hoodedice bbl people 16:06 DeepGaze *and C being 16:07 hoodedice celeron55: I say #minetest-offtopic be made official 16:07 * PenguinDad slaps Jordach for the stats 16:07 hoodedice and #minetest be renamed to #minetest-support 16:08 * hoodedice slaps PenguinDad for the reference 16:08 rubenwardy Automatically redirect to #minetest to #minetest-offtopic :P 16:08 rubenwardy It seems that is all they do 16:08 rubenwardy na, keep it as it is 16:10 DeepGaze my three point teleporter concept(not coded yet) 16:10 DeepGaze player places A+C 16:10 DeepGaze player connects A to C 16:10 DeepGaze player tells A where to put B 16:10 DeepGaze B saves the nodes identity of what it is replacing 16:10 DeepGaze B force loads The chunk 16:10 DeepGaze B connects to C 16:10 DeepGaze Player hits A 16:10 DeepGaze C disconnects from B 16:10 DeepGaze B is destroyed and the node replaced 16:11 rubenwardy "FOSS project, but currently poorly managed resulting in questionable forum and game content." https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/forum.minetest.net 16:11 celeron55 "adult content" :D 16:12 celeron55 that's not allowed in rules and will definitely result in an instant ban 16:12 hoodedice Nipples 16:12 hoodedice http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yDZ_9b2nHz0/TCvZym2eraI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/OXpFSSLpV2s/s1600/bottle%20nipple.jpg 16:12 rubenwardy celeron55: he may mean swearing 16:12 kahrl hexafraction... yes I remember that name https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6069 16:13 sfan5 !title 16:13 MinetestBot sfan5: Recent DoS attacks on Minetest servers (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetest Forums 16:13 sfan5 !sfu *hexa* 16:13 MinetestBot hexafraction 8New member 1 posts, registered on 2013-05-21 | id: 5715 16:13 celeron55 oh maybe that... well the adultness of that depends on the country 16:13 sfan5 ah 16:13 hoodedice whoa... 16:13 celeron55 some seem to see it more bad than guns 16:13 celeron55 +as 16:14 * celeron55 is pointing over the atlantic 16:14 * hoodedice not me! 16:15 PilzAdam :-/ user ID 1337 is some random spammer 16:15 sfan5 https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/minetest.net 16:15 sfan5 >child safety: excellent 16:15 DeepGaze * contemplating 42 16:15 rubenwardy bye all# 16:15 DeepGaze why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 16:16 hoodedice *cough* 16:16 hoodedice One look at Jordach, and we all know how *excellent* our child service is 16:16 hoodedice *safety 16:17 DeepGaze prefer sevice 16:17 sfan5 >MineTest.net Whois Record 16:17 sfan5 >MineTest 16:17 sfan5 it burns 16:17 hoodedice Guys guys 16:17 hoodedice Top site on WOT is mail.ru 16:17 hoodedice tololololol 16:18 sfan5 I wonder how they calculate the seo score of 85% 16:18 celeron55 i like it how they have a big download button at the right side of their site 16:18 celeron55 DOWNLOAD (our addon) 16:18 sfan5 oh yeah 16:18 sfan5 that stuff is annoying 16:19 celeron55 it's a fact that most of the websites on the internet pay their bills by money given to them by completely clueless people that click links like that instead of the hidden real content 16:20 hoodedice Okay guys, new dig 16:20 hoodedice rarekin IS hexafraction 16:21 celeron55 lol 16:21 hoodedice rarekin has this MT fork he calls mosstest 16:21 hoodedice Look at this: https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/forum-mosstest.rhcloud.com/ 16:21 celeron55 ilovepetras.com just contacted me by email, asking whether i want to sell minetest on CDs 16:22 celeron55 that's some marketing right there 16:24 celeron55 (that's the CD service that globeminer uses) 16:38 CWz what is the difference between using make -j2 and make -j4? 16:39 hoodedice -j2 uses 1 core 16:39 hoodedice -j4 uses three 16:40 hoodedice If your PC has two cores you would use make -j3 16:40 PenguinDad and what does -j1 mean then? :p 16:41 CWz 0 cores of course 16:41 hoodedice Your code won't compile 16:41 hoodedice =) 16:41 hoodedice lololol. 16:41 PenguinDad hoodedice: I actually compile with -j1 16:41 hoodedice I do with -j3 16:41 hoodedice Dual core celeron 16:42 hoodedice owait... 16:42 harrison Dual stalk Celery 16:42 harrison i think you could use -j9 then 16:42 hoodedice *cough* 16:42 harrison due to hyperthreading 16:43 sfan5 hoodedice: -j2 uses 2 threads 16:43 sfan5 -j4 uses 4 threads 16:43 harrison 4 core i7 has 8 hypercores 16:44 PenguinDad I prefer CPUs with only physical cores 16:44 * hoodedice agrees. 16:44 * hoodedice also loves his Celeron. 16:44 kahrl I think the idea behind 1 more job than # of cores is to always have a potential job to fill CPU time when some other job is waiting on I/O 16:45 kahrl dunno if it's worth it... 16:45 celeron55 it can just make the system unresponsive and possibly make bad usage of the CPU cache 16:47 hoodedice BUt for compiling, I think faster is always better 16:48 hoodedice I think it was VanessaE who told me that -j(x) is x=number of cores + 1 16:49 markveidemanis Hi 16:49 PilzAdam -j2 uses 1 core 16:49 PilzAdam -j4 uses three 16:49 PilzAdam lolwat 16:49 markveidemanis http://pastebin.com/GYB0hyuL 16:49 hoodedice *cough* 16:49 markveidemanis I tried compiling inside an external EXT4 partition 16:49 hoodedice [citation: VanessaE] 16:49 PilzAdam markveidemanis, why do you come here every other day with the same error message? 16:50 markveidemanis Because the solution does not change the output 16:50 sfan5 markveidemanis: try compiling a static binary in your normal linux distro 16:51 markveidemanis Like what? 16:53 sfan5 ??? 16:54 PilzAdam PenguinDad, you dont have to write -j1 16:54 celeron55 hoodedice: bad usage of the cache = a lot of slowdown 16:55 markveidemanis I don't know what you mean by staatic library 16:56 sfan5 markveidemanis: compile minetest, set CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS to -static 16:56 markveidemanis -DCMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS=-static ? 16:57 sfan5 yes 16:57 celeron55 what 16:58 celeron55 that is clearly missing irrlicht headers 17:00 celeron55 don't try anything before making sure it's reading them 17:01 markveidemanis Heres my cmake command: 17:01 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8967844 17:01 sfan5 glibc won't let me link statically 17:01 sfan5 bah 17:01 sfan5 -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=/home/mark/Downloads/irr 17:01 sfan5 I don't even 17:01 sfan5 face meet desk 17:02 celeron55 markveidemanis: remove all that irrlicht stuff and use IRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR 17:03 Calinou make -j$(grep "vendor" /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l) 17:03 Calinou detects CPU threads 17:03 celeron55 which has to point to the extracted irrlicht directory (usually called something like irrlicht-1.x.x 17:03 Calinou there is shorter, but I forgot it 17:03 Calinou it's in my compile script, see the forum 17:03 sfan5 markveidemanis: did you download irrlicht for linux/compile it? 17:04 sfan5 or did you just dl the irrlicht source code? 17:05 celeron55 i am assuming markveidemanis is compiling a server 17:05 celeron55 otherwise he would have it regularly installed 17:05 celeron55 or wait 17:05 celeron55 is this the fedora thing? 17:06 markveidemanis I did not compile irrlicht 17:06 celeron55 use the rpmfusion repositories 17:06 sfan5 oh 17:06 sfan5 hm right 17:06 sfan5 you don't need the irrlicht lib for the server 17:07 markveidemanis yep 17:07 celeron55 centos is all the s ame 17:07 celeron55 same* 17:07 markveidemanis I read I still need the headers 17:07 celeron55 all of these have only a few official packages 17:07 celeron55 you're supposed to take into use rpmfusion or a similar one so that you get a reasonable number of packages available 17:07 markveidemanis I used EPEL 17:08 celeron55 but it doesn't have irrlicht? 17:08 celeron55 rpmfusion has, or at least i have it installed as a package from somewhere on this fedora box 17:08 celeron55 and i only have official repos plus rpmfusion 17:09 celeron55 (and a couple of very specific ones) 17:12 markveidemanis So i get rpmfusion and install irrlicht? 17:12 celeron55 irrlicht and irrlicht-devel 17:12 markveidemanis ok 17:13 celeron55 wait 17:13 markveidemanis Should that fix the errors? 17:13 celeron55 it seems like it is available in the official repositories 17:13 celeron55 https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/irrlicht-devel 17:13 celeron55 just install it 17:13 celeron55 wtf are you even doing 17:14 celeron55 this looks like the most trivial thing to do ever 17:14 markveidemanis I missed that package 17:14 markveidemanis Installed irrlicht though 17:19 markveidemanis wheres the globeminner topic gone? 17:19 sfan5 markveidemanis: trash 17:19 markveidemanis if I made a post in a topic that is deleted, do I keep my post number? 17:19 sfan5 yes 17:20 sfan5 you can even delete a post by you and you won't get -1 on posts 17:21 Calinou use the rpmfusion repositories 17:21 markveidemanis k 17:21 Calinou you don't need RPMfusion for t hat... 17:21 markveidemanis we know 17:21 Calinou usual Fedora hater *cough* 17:21 markveidemanis it seems like it is available in the official repositories 17:21 markveidemanis I hate fedora 17:22 markveidemanis it is light but debian is better 17:22 sfan5 I hate fedora 17:22 sfan5 why do you have it then? 17:23 markveidemanis I am compiling it for my server 17:23 markveidemanis It'll be worth the stress though 17:25 harrison i recommend siduction which is debian unstable plus a few enhancements 17:25 * sfan5 throws Arch Linux at john_minetest 17:26 * Jordach opens bag of Galaxy Minstrels 17:26 MinetestBot Jordach: 03-25 16:00 UTC hi! 17:28 celeron55 fedora is good if one wants a full-featured distro that is able to keep itself not broken 17:28 celeron55 i like it, mostly 17:28 Jordach Windows is good if you can't understand Linux one bit 17:29 celeron55 i understand linux probably more than anyone here and i still hate archlinux, because it makes me do things that i couldn't care less doing 17:29 sfan5 how about LFS? 17:29 celeron55 that's the worst 17:30 celeron55 but i think everyone should use gentoo and arch as long as it takes for them to learn it all and then they naturally want to move to distros that automate the stuff 17:30 sfan5 I only use arch linux if I need a system with no shit preloaded 17:31 Jordach celeron55, i'd be using linux right now - except that it's a brand new machine :P 17:31 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:37 markveidemanis Trying to make now... 17:40 markveidemanis I got the same error 17:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: then something is still wrong 17:40 sfan5 try re-running cmake 17:41 markveidemanis i defined IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR because it threw an error 17:44 celeron55 run make clean and remove CMakeFiles and CMakeCache.txt 17:44 celeron55 then run cmake again without any irrlicht options 17:44 celeron55 then it will workj 17:44 celeron55 -j 17:45 markveidemanis ok 17:45 markveidemanis Trying... 17:48 crazyR does anyone know whats required in order to run minetestmapper.py aside from python & PIL 17:48 sfan5 crazyR: use my cpp mapper 17:48 sfan5 much faster 17:48 sfan5 http://github.com/sfan5/minetest-mapper-cpp 17:49 crazyR i did try it but i got other errors. 1 min let me look up the errors i got 17:50 crazyR logs gone, give me a few mins, il add it again and see what happens lol 17:51 rubenwardy cpp is much better 17:51 sfan5 rubenwardy: do you like the autogenerates colors mine has 17:51 sfan5 ? 17:51 celeron55 sfan5: >we cannot use ... char>> here because mingw-gcc is f**king retarded 17:52 celeron55 sfan5: use -std=c++0x and it will work 17:52 sfan5 well 17:52 celeron55 that > > stuff is actually in the standard 17:52 celeron55 (and was removed) 17:52 sfan5 why do gcc and clang have it working by default but mingw-gcc does not? 17:52 sfan5 s/gcc/g++/ 17:53 celeron55 i don't know; what versions? 17:53 sfan5 the devs of libvpx broke vp9 again 17:54 sfan5 586-mingw32msvc-g++ (GCC) 4.2.1-sjlj (mingw32-2) 17:54 markveidemanis Do Irrlicht arguments: http://pastie.org/8967980 17:55 sfan5 markveidemanis: your source tree is damaged 17:55 sfan5 extract it again 17:56 markveidemanis minetest? 17:56 sfan5 yes 17:56 celeron55 oh 4.2 doesn't even support c++0x 17:57 celeron55 it's many years old 17:57 celeron55 i guess they enable that functionality by default in newer versions then 17:58 celeron55 4.3 would support it via -std=c++0x 17:58 sfan5 hm 17:58 sfan5 the ubuntu repo maintainers should really update 17:59 markveidemanis Each time I get slightly better luck 18:00 celeron55 mingw is lagging a lot behind anyway though 18:00 celeron55 their brand new version seems to be 4.4 18:01 celeron55 wait... this is a good point 18:01 celeron55 it means that not only visual studio 2010 is holding us in the old standard; also mingw is 18:02 Jordach celeron55, we won't have to target win xp soon 18:02 Jordach (thank fuck) 18:03 Jordach which means we can just target ME II 18:04 Jordach otherwise known as vista :P 18:04 markveidemanis Another error 18:04 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8968009 18:05 Jordach markveidemanis, just go back to windowsx 18:05 celeron55 what version of irrlicht is that? 18:06 celeron55 i have 1.8.1 2.fc20 x86_64 18:06 markveidemanis idk how to find out 18:06 markveidemanis Except I have i386 18:07 celeron55 umm... well i used yum info irrlicht-devel 18:07 crazyR sfan5: thanks works like a charm. 18:07 markveidemanis 1.7.3 18:08 markveidemanis bbl 18:09 celeron55 what 18:09 celeron55 why do you have fedora EPEL 6? 18:10 celeron55 or more like "use" 18:10 celeron55 anyway comment out the offending line in irrlichttypes.h 18:10 celeron55 this is an old and since fixed (by fedora) problem 18:10 Krock Hello 18:11 hoodedice Hi Krock =) 18:11 * hoodedice uses Windows 8.1 and thinks it's the best Windows OS ever. 18:12 Krock Saw c55 first time..should i better say "OMG hello omgomgomg celeron55, I'm biggest fan of you, gimme an autogramme" or say nothing? :3 18:12 hoodedice (Apart from the crappy Audio Drivers from realtek. *hoodedice uses custom realtek drivers) 18:12 hoodedice Krock, I don't even 18:13 Krock hoodedice, you like the new style of those rectangles on start screen? 18:13 hoodedice I just pass off as celeron on certain servers 18:13 hoodedice inb4 MineCraft II lol 18:13 Krock lol 18:13 hoodedice Krock, Yes. 18:14 hoodedice One of the biggest reason I like 8.1 is because the search results in the start screen are actually readable 18:14 hoodedice And the squares actually fit the name 18:14 hoodedice Circle windows? 18:14 hoodedice meh 18:14 Krock Win 2k style ftw :3 18:14 hoodedice gamejam in MT? 18:14 khonkhortisan One of the reasons I don't like KDE's menu is I type in program, and the enter applies before the search for the program name is done, so it starts up a random program from the list that was there before. 18:15 hoodedice Actually, I'm coming directly from XP. 18:15 khonkhortisan A terminal runs the exact command you specify. 18:15 hoodedice Xubuntu was and is better than xp. 18:15 Krock hoodedice, horrible 13 daysleft until suport ends >:( 18:15 hoodedice But with 8.1 being light (not as much) and with better GFX support (Shh intel), I like 8.1 more than Xubuntu 18:16 hoodedice Yaay, one less OS for Minetest to support 18:17 hoodedice Seriously though, sup wrong witht the Mac builds? 18:17 hoodedice gamejam in? 18:17 hoodedice just games? 18:17 hoodedice !g gamejam 18:17 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://globalgamejam.org/ 18:18 hoodedice *create games?* 18:18 hoodedice lawl 18:18 * hoodedice thought it was *play games* 18:18 khonkhortisan On windows, everyone is administrator. 18:18 hoodedice How about mod jams? 18:18 hoodedice *cough* no. 18:18 hoodedice Mincrosoft is everyone's admin lol 18:19 Krock khonkhortisan, definitely false since windows xp 18:19 khonkhortisan Proof: REG add HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System /v DisableTaskMgr /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f 18:19 hoodedice They can lock you out, and you can't do anything about it=P 18:19 khonkhortisan Run that command as a normal user. 18:19 hoodedice lol nope 18:19 khonkhortisan You'll get the message "Task manager has been disabled by your administrator" 18:19 khonkhortisan Run it again with /d 0 to reenable. 18:19 Krock know advanced process explorers? they can not get turned off with that 18:19 hoodedice How about test mode? 18:19 hoodedice You can't enable that unless you run cmd as root 18:20 hoodedice *cough* 18:20 hoodedice *admin 18:20 khonkhortisan This is one thing that bugs me. It calls me administrator through normal user actions. 18:20 hoodedice "cmd as root" 18:20 hoodedice Too much linux. 18:20 Krock What a fail when using the loved 3-key-press of CTRL ALT and DEL... "Task manager has been disabled by your administrator" 18:20 hoodedice khon, Windy 7? 18:21 hoodedice right click on start, click command prompt 18:21 hoodedice The one without (admin) 18:21 hoodedice And maybe do bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS 18:21 hoodedice "bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS" 18:22 hoodedice without quotes 18:22 hoodedice See if that runs 18:22 hoodedice Or maybe you disabled that dimmed screen for admin permission thingy 18:24 * hoodedice wonders if he crashed the IRC server by flooding. 18:25 Krock not yet. 18:26 hoodedice I am doing a course on pseudocode 18:26 hoodedice And today I found the meaning of "hacky way of doing things" 18:26 khonkhortisan Your pseudocode has a syntax error at line 387. 18:26 hoodedice My pseudocode does not exceed 200 lines 18:27 hoodedice Because comments are for n00bs 18:27 khonkhortisan That's the syntax error. :P 18:27 hoodedice And because I am practicing optimization along with learning how to code. 18:27 sydneyjdykstra Why do I get a error sometimes when I install mods? 18:28 hoodedice Nah, ERRORS in my code are less helpful than Minetest 0.4.5 lua errors 18:28 hoodedice sydneyjdykstra: What is the error? 18:29 khonkhortisan Huh. Maybe it's no longer true. I made a new user account and my command didn't work. 18:30 hoodedice *cough* 18:30 hoodedice sydney left? 18:30 hoodedice !next 18:30 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 18:31 * Krock is testing if diffrent sticks for every type of tree get liked by players 18:31 khonkhortisan I still haven't figured out what to do with all the wood 18:32 hoodedice Hello sydney, do you mind telling us what error you are getting? 18:32 Krock build nice things with wood 18:32 hoodedice Make them into planks 18:32 hoodedice Wood is useless. 18:33 sydney I am waiting for my brother to get of.( he is playing minetest) 18:33 hoodedice oh okay =) 18:34 hoodedice sydney, when your bro does get off, open debug.txt located in the 'bin' folder, press Ctrl + F, then search for ERROR. You'll get your error faster =) 18:41 sydney here is the error: /usr/share/minetest/builtin/modstore.lua:320: attempt to index field "moddetails" (a nil Value) 18:43 iqualfragile sydney: is there any more detail? 18:43 iqualfragile and which version of minetest are you running? 18:44 sydney iqualfragile: No that is it. 4.9 is my version 18:44 hoodedice 0.4.9 downloaded from Minetest.net ? 18:45 sydney No,I added the ppa in ubuntu to get the latest version.Somebody in this forum told me to do that. 18:45 hoodedice oh okay, 0.4.9 git 18:45 hoodedice iqualfragile, does that error pop up for a mod without a description? 18:47 sydney hoodedice: It show up on most of the mods i try.Some do work though. 18:47 hoodedice sydney, did you use the mod store to download the mods? 18:47 hoodedice From within the game? 18:48 sydney hoodedice: The one built into minetest,yes. 18:48 hoodedice Can you tell me which mod you downloaded? 18:49 sydney hoodedice: it was call mob framework,for making animals. 18:50 hoodedice hmm 18:51 hoodedice iqualfragile, my client fails to download the said mod. 18:51 hoodedice sydney, does the mod cause the game to not start? Does the mod work? 18:52 sydney hoodedice: The game starts fine;that eror shows up only when i try to install that mod. 18:52 twoelk quick workaround: download the mod from the forum and install it manually, as this seems to be a failure of the modstore function 18:53 hoodedice okay sydney, as far as I can see it, the mod fails to download for my clent 18:53 hoodedice *client 18:53 sydney hoodedice: And the mod never installs because of that error. 18:53 hoodedice Since the pice of code that your error message referenced is related to mod download failures, 18:53 hoodedice And it is fixed in my version 18:53 hoodedice I suggest you update your client, if not already the lates 18:53 sydney hoodedice: What version do you run? 18:53 hoodedice And what twoelk said 18:54 hoodedice Mine is 0.4.9-5fefc4b 18:54 sydney And only a handful of servers work to. 18:55 hoodedice sydney, 0.4.9 stable is as ironically unstable as can be. I think you need to update your client. Please tell me the characters after the 0.4.9- 18:55 twoelk the public server list should show 27 servers that are up at the moment 18:55 sydney hoodedice: How do I do that? 18:56 twoelk be sure you are not viewing your "favorites list" 18:56 hoodedice Top right of the MT screen 18:56 hoodedice *Top left 18:56 hoodedice It says Minetest 0.4.9 - 18:57 sydney hoodedice: yes it says Minetest 0.4.9 18:57 hoodedice nothing after that? 18:57 sydney twoelk: i know,I have tried them all. 18:57 sydney hoodedice: no 18:58 hoodedice You are on stable =/ 18:58 hoodedice Did you add a ppa for stable before you added one for the daily? 18:58 sydney hoodedice: Must be... Thats what they told me to do 18:59 hoodedice I suggest you uninstall Minetest and its ppa s completely, and then re-add the daily ppa, as I suspect there is a conflict 18:59 hoodedice You know how to uninstall packages on ubuntu? 18:59 sydney hoodedice: I use synaptics 18:59 hoodedice How did you first install MT on ubuntu? 19:00 celeron55 where is the mod that implemented some kind of node that just recursively spread around making everything purple? 19:00 sydney hoodedice: synaptics,then removed it,added ppa's and installed 4.9 19:01 twoelk Taint? 19:01 celeron55 yes, found 19:01 hoodedice celeron55: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8747 19:01 hoodedice Dang, Ninja'd! 19:02 hoodedice okay sydney, did you install this PPA at all (ppa:minetestdevs/stable) 19:02 celeron55 i already had my hands ready to append the name to my google search 8) 19:02 hoodedice Or this one? (https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds) 19:02 hoodedice (ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds) 19:03 hoodedice You might want to check your Software Sources 19:03 hoodedice In settings 19:03 sydney hoodedice: My brother is still on,but I remember instaling the stable 1. 19:03 hoodedice Okay 19:03 hoodedice Now, when he gets off (if he does) 19:03 sydney How often do they come out with a daily build? 19:03 hoodedice Press the superkey 19:03 hoodedice "daily" 19:03 hoodedice =P 19:03 sfan5 sydney: pretty often 19:03 celeron55 WTFPL is really good for copypaste modmaking, you just grab it and use it, only checking that it indeed is under WTFPL 8) 19:03 sfan5 but not daily 19:04 hoodedice 1. Press the superkey to open dash 19:04 hoodedice 2. Type Terminal, open the Terminal Emulator 19:04 sydney hoodedice: who are you talking to? 19:05 hoodedice 3. Type 'sudo apt-get remove minetestC55' 19:05 hoodedice you =) 19:05 hoodedice Type that without quotes 19:05 hoodedice 4. Check if minetest has been uninstalled. 19:05 sydney oh,ok.( now I am waiting for him to get off) 19:05 hoodedice 2.5 Backup your worlds 19:05 hoodedice Forgot to say that =/ 19:06 sydney How do I backup my worlds 19:06 twoelk celeron55: did ilovepetras.com say why they asked you wether you wanted to publish a Minetest CD? Was Globeminner so succesfull? 19:06 hoodedice Go to the worlds folder, copy paste that somewhere 19:06 hoodedice twoelk, see the reviews on Amazon =) 19:06 hoodedice *=( 19:06 sydney ok...........waiting 19:06 Jordach sydney, /home//.minetest/worlds 19:07 hoodedice After backing up worlds, removing minetestc55, go to Software Sources. Try searching it in the dash, or get to it via Settings. 19:07 sydney Everyone... I am switching computers,please repeat after I get on... 19:08 hoodedice wb 19:08 hoodedice =) 19:08 sydneyJDykstra Hello,I'm back. 19:09 hoodedice Sydney, I'm writing instructions on a pastebin paste 19:09 sydneyJDykstra Ok,I've backup'ed the worlds. 19:11 Niften hello 19:13 Krock I feel like I lost a mod somewhere in Modding General... 19:13 Krock Can't remember its name :3 19:14 sydney Anyone there? 19:14 Krock None online of those 114 people 19:14 Krock *113 19:14 sydney Har Har Har. 19:15 PenguinDad I'm not here? o.O 19:15 Krock True. 19:15 sydney How do i install minetest Daily builds? 19:16 sydney also what are the ppa's 19:17 sydneyJDykstra ubuntu 19:17 sydneyJDykstra I have to go,I'll talk when I get back 19:18 twoelk hoodedice seems to need some time to paste his instructions to a bin 19:18 Krock ~up 62.203.236.100 19:18 ShadowBot Krock: 62.203.236.100 port 30000 is up (218ms) 19:18 sfan5 Krock: Y U NO USE MinetestBot? 19:18 hoodedice http://pastebin.com/EZUQyRqv 19:18 hoodedice *cough* 19:18 Krock CUZ U NO ME GIVE KITTEHS 19:18 hoodedice Too late lol 19:18 * sfan5 gives Krock a kitten 19:18 * sfan5 gives Krock a kitten 19:18 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Krock's head 19:18 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Krock's head 19:19 Krock awsum. 19:19 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Krock 19:19 * hoodedice slaps sfan5 for fl00d 19:19 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Krock 19:19 * sfan5 flips hoodedice 19:19 twoelk hoodedice try your link 19:19 * hoodedice lands perfectly on feet 19:19 * Krock catches that flood of kittens 19:19 hoodedice twoelk, works 19:19 hoodedice -.- 19:19 hoodedice I ALWAYS TRY MY LINKS, K?! 19:19 Krock !up 62.203.236.100 19:19 MinetestBot 62.203.236.100:30000 is up (40ms) 19:19 twoelk hm so it seems, first try gave me spam alert 19:20 hoodedice pastebin IS spam lol 19:20 Krock !c (218+40)/2 19:20 MinetestBot 129 19:20 Krock ok 19:20 hoodedice !c 'hoodedice is awesome' 19:20 MinetestBot 'hoodedice is awesome' 19:20 hoodedice And that is MinetestBot's opinion, everyone 19:20 hoodedice <3 MinetestBot 19:20 MinetestBot <3 hoodedice 19:20 sfan5 hoodedice: no 19:20 Krock !c "hoodedice" == "awesome" 19:20 MinetestBot False 19:20 Krock :P 19:22 hoodedice !c 'hoodedice' > 'awesome' 19:22 MinetestBot True 19:22 hoodedice Booyah1 19:22 hoodedice I'm greater than awesome! 19:22 sfan5 lel 19:22 sfan5 !c 'kittens' > 'uberawesome' 19:22 MinetestBot False 19:22 sfan5 derp 19:22 hoodedice lol 19:22 hoodedice ASCII chart sfan 19:22 sfan5 !c 'kittens' > 'awesome' 19:22 MinetestBot True 19:23 PenguinDad !c 'PenguinDad' > 'hoodedice' 19:23 MinetestBot False 19:23 hoodedice !c 'Krock' > 'awesome' 19:23 MinetestBot False 19:23 sfan5 !c (ord('k'), ord('u'), ord(u'光')) 19:23 MinetestBot TypeError: ord() expected a character, but string of length 0 found 19:23 hoodedice =P 19:23 Krock :( 19:23 sfan5 wut 19:23 sfan5 !c (ord('k'), ord('u'), u'光') 19:23 MinetestBot (107, 117, u'') 19:23 sfan5 MinetestBot seems to hate unicode 19:24 sfan5 1 kitten for the person who can tell me what 光 means 19:24 Krock no idea... I see a square :3 19:24 hoodedice Light 19:24 hoodedice ! 19:25 * sfan5 gives hoodedice a special kitten 19:25 sfan5 Krock: install some japanese fonts 19:25 hoodedice Krock: Use Windows 8.1 19:25 Krock Ye, japanese is needed for the life 19:25 * hoodedice flies away 19:25 Krock Same as Win 8.1 19:26 Krock Wikipedia: NT 6.2 19:26 Krock Windows 8 • Windows RT • Phone 8 • Windows Server 2012 19:27 Krock lulz.. windows 8 is windows 6.2 19:27 hoodedice *cough* 19:27 hoodedice rofl 19:28 Krock ok. gonna test thebot. 19:29 sfan5 PilzAdam: u wot m8? 19:29 hoodedice Indeed. 19:29 sfan5 !op 19:29 Krock !op 19:29 hoodedice No op to you son 19:29 * hoodedice kicks Krock 19:29 sfan5 !deop 19:29 Krock :( MinetestBot 19:30 Krock 'hoodedice' 19:30 MinetestBot False 19:30 Krock !c 'Krock the king' > 'hoodedice' 19:30 MinetestBot False 19:30 Krock wut 19:30 hoodedice Krock, clue: ASCII table 19:30 sfan5 Krock: it compares ascii of the fist char not the length 19:30 sfan5 first* 19:30 Krock oh. 19:30 sfan5 "fist char" much badass very doge 19:30 hoodedice When you input a String it compares value of first character only 19:30 hoodedice *Ninja'd 19:31 Krock calculate all chars together and comprear then :3 19:31 hoodedice Krock, then you would 19:31 hoodedice !c 'K'+'r'+'o'+'c'+'k' 19:31 MinetestBot 'Krock' 19:31 hoodedice lolwut? 19:32 hoodedice that is useful. 19:32 hoodedice !c K+r+o+c+k 19:32 MinetestBot NameError: name 'K' is not defined 19:32 hoodedice meh. 19:33 hoodedice !c 'K'+'r'+'o'+'c'+'k' > 500 19:33 MinetestBot True 19:33 sfan5 !c sum(ord(c) for c in 'Krock') 19:33 MinetestBot 506 19:33 hoodedice ah yes, it works 19:33 Krock cool. 19:33 hoodedice sfan, how's that work? 19:33 hoodedice (ord(c)? 19:34 Krock c sum(ord(c) for c in '×××××') 19:34 Krock !c sum(ord(c) for c in '×××××') 19:34 MinetestBot 0 19:34 Krock ye, it doesn't like unicode 19:34 rubenwardy b 19:35 hoodedice !c sin(45) 19:35 MinetestBot NameError: name 'sin' is not defined 19:35 hoodedice wut? 19:35 hoodedice WUT? 19:35 hoodedice !c sine(0) 19:35 MinetestBot NameError: name 'sine' is not defined 19:35 sfan5 !c math.sin(45) 19:35 MinetestBot 0.8509035245341184 19:35 hoodedice oh. 19:35 sfan5 also -> ##minetestbot 19:36 Krock omg thx john_minetest, I searched for that name last month :) 19:36 Krock ...or that "thing" 19:37 Krock hoh-TEL EK-oh LEE-mah LEE-mah OS-kah 19:40 rubenwardy new YouTube video! (Not Minetest, OpenTTD) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeO_CtQmbQ 19:40 Krock good old TTD 19:41 sfan5 !title 19:41 MinetestBot sfan5: Brandyce Lauren on Pinterest 19:42 Krock not really. 19:43 rubenwardy sfan5: "OpenTTD - Making Cyclotrons" 19:44 sfan5 MinetestBot: are you drunk? 19:44 sfan5 oh wai 19:44 sfan5 t 19:44 sfan5 it makes perfect sense 19:44 sfan5 she saw that link in another channel 19:46 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 19:47 sfan5 !title 19:47 MinetestBot sfan5: Duke Ellington - It don't mean a thing (1943) - YouTube 19:54 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY 19:57 hoodedice !title 19:57 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll'D - YouTube 19:57 hoodedice =O 19:57 hoodedice You evil, you >.< 19:57 Krock wtf? 19:58 Krock not rickroll. 19:58 hoodedice Don't believe you 19:58 hoodedice You can't get me, man 19:58 hoodedice !title 19:58 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll'D - YouTube 19:58 Krock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY 19:58 hoodedice See! 19:58 Krock !title 19:58 MinetestBot Krock: PRESTO Disney and Pixar Short Film - YouTube 19:58 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY 19:59 Krock !title 19:59 MinetestBot Krock: PRESTO Disney and Pixar Short Film - YouTube 19:59 Krock what the 19:59 hoodedice !title 19:59 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll'D - YouTube 19:59 hoodedice Liar. 19:59 rubenwardy ha 19:59 hoodedice You must've hacked MinetestBot 19:59 Krock Yeah 19:59 Krock what a bad boy 20:00 hoodedice MinetestBot! 20:00 MinetestBot hoodedice! 20:00 hoodedice It works alright, ok? 20:00 Krock MinetestBot! 20:00 MinetestBot Krock! 20:00 * sfan5 flips Krock 20:01 Krock ... 20:01 hoodedice !title 20:02 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll'D - YouTube 20:02 Krock hahaha 20:02 hoodedice john_minetest: wtf? 20:02 Krock hoodedice hackd MT bot 20:03 sfan5 hoodedice: u bad hax0r 20:03 sfan5 hoodedice: I'm sueing you now 20:03 hoodedice lolwut? 20:03 Krock MT bot rickrolls you everytime... 20:03 hoodedice Do !title 20:03 sfan5 !title 20:03 MinetestBot sfan5: Google 20:03 sfan5 hm? 20:03 hoodedice ?? 20:04 hoodedice Krock, run !title 20:04 Krock !title 20:04 MinetestBot Krock: RickRoll'D - YouTube 20:04 Krock :3 20:04 hoodedice -.- 20:04 hoodedice Krock, See >.< 20:04 Krock Das Leben ist hart xD 20:05 * rubenwardy can't stop laughing 20:05 hoodedice Lemme try... 20:05 hoodedice !title 20:05 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'm drunk! - YouTube 20:05 hoodedice wtf? 20:05 hoodedice sfan5! MTBot is drunk! 20:06 sfan5 nope 20:06 hoodedice checked drinkin.py? 20:06 sfan5 !c sum(math.sin(ord(c)) for c in 'notdrunkaaexxlr'), math.pi 20:06 MinetestBot (3.141585667537484, 3.141592653589793) 20:06 sfan5 see it's similar to pi 20:07 rubenwardy ...and GIMP is updated! 20:07 hoodedice hmm 20:07 hoodedice !title 20:07 MinetestBot hoodedice: Get Lost on Vimeo 20:07 Krock !title 20:07 sfan5 !title 20:07 MinetestBot Krock: Minetest 20:07 MinetestBot sfan5: Minetest 20:07 Krock Ok. 20:08 hoodedice !title 20:08 MinetestBot hoodedice: Minetest 20:09 rubenwardy !title 20:09 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Can't connect to http://www.hurr-durr.com/‎ 20:09 rubenwardy Any recommendations for a FOSS video editor? 20:10 hoodedice !title 20:10 MinetestBot hoodedice: Stable Releases : “Minetest Developers” team 20:10 hoodedice hmm ... 20:10 hoodedice !title 20:10 MinetestBot hoodedice: Questions? Ask an expert for answers ASAP 20:11 hoodedice hm..... 20:11 Jordach rubenwardy, KDENLive or OpenShot 20:11 Jordach KDENLive actually working 20:11 rubenwardy !title 20:12 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Welcome to the Moms Help Organization! 20:12 Jordach while OpenShot stutters and doesn't like most formats 20:12 rubenwardy ok 20:12 harrison cinelerra for the true 1337 20:12 rubenwardy https://www.videolan.org/vlmc/ looks exciting, but will probably never be finished 20:13 harrison this web site can be modified by any VideoLAN developer with a SVN account. 20:13 hoodedice !title 20:13 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll'D - YouTube 20:13 hoodedice rubenwardy: wtf? 20:13 harrison 2004 called, mr vlmc. they want their version control software back 20:14 rubenwardy !title 20:14 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Can't connect to http://hoodedice-is-stupid.com 20:14 rubenwardy oh dear 20:14 hoodedice -.- 20:14 hoodedice hoodedice.weebly.com 20:15 hoodedice http://hoodedice.weebly.com 20:15 hoodedice !title 20:15 MinetestBot hoodedice: Can't connect to http://hoodedice.weebly.com 20:15 * hoodedice is too lazy to publish his site 20:15 harrison The site you are looking for has not been published 20:15 rubenwardy I currently use Serif MoviePlus, but it is quite an old version. I got it through my old school. 20:15 Jordach push the fucking button 20:15 harrison Jordach: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 20:16 hoodedice Jordach: am too lazy to complete the site 20:16 Jordach harrison, once more and i'll kickban your ass 20:16 hoodedice sfan5! We need a !bully 20:16 Jordach because fucking spam 20:16 harrison you and what oper? 20:16 rubenwardy Bye all 20:16 rubenwardy !stfu hoodedice 20:16 MinetestBot hoodedice, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted. 20:16 rubenwardy ^ bit rude 20:16 Jordach wasn't fucking joking either 20:16 rubenwardy !help 20:16 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 20:16 hoodedice yup, looks good enough 20:17 Jordach hoodedice, trying out flightgear 20:17 hoodedice s it nice? 20:17 hoodedice *is 20:17 Jordach hoodedice, getting it, and using TerraSync 20:17 hoodedice Hello sydneyJDykstra! 20:17 sydneyJDykstra hoodedice: Did you ever get that list for me? 20:17 hoodedice Hope you enjoy it, Jordach =) 20:17 hoodedice Just after you left, sydney 20:17 hoodedice lol 20:17 hoodedice http://pastebin.com/EZUQyRqv 20:18 sydneyJDykstra Thank you!! 20:18 hoodedice FG was what introduced me to FOSS =D 20:18 Jordach hoodedice, i only wanted the SR-71 blackbird 20:18 Jordach because Mach 3.1 20:19 sydneyJDykstra hoodedice: why did you copy it twice? 20:19 hoodedice I want to play it 20:19 hoodedice But it jitters like hell on my lappy =/ 20:19 hoodedice copy what twice? 20:19 Jordach hoodedice, i'm not going to run out of room either https://cdn.mediacru.sh/SE6ynKjtwBwJ.png 20:19 hoodedice I think I will reinstall it in Windows and try again 20:19 hoodedice th2? 20:20 * hoodedice hugs Jordach 20:20 Jordach hoodedice, some ond windows game 20:20 Jordach old* 20:20 hoodedice It's not *old 20:20 hoodedice IT'S FREaKIN EPIC 20:20 hoodedice *sob* 20:20 Jordach hoodedice, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (i fucking remember that well!) 20:20 hoodedice I know *sob* 20:21 hoodedice Did you unlock the fail videos? 20:21 Jordach hoodedice, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/HW4JbEuDekPr.png 20:21 Jordach hoodedice, ues 20:21 Jordach yes 20:21 hoodedice XD 20:21 hoodedice 70 GB for FG? 20:21 hoodedice lolwut? 20:21 Jordach hoodedice, i remember getting >200,000 points on the second tournament 20:21 hoodedice yeah, once you get the hang of it, getting high scores become easy 20:22 Jordach (i've also got 1,000,000 on THUnderground 2) 20:22 hoodedice And once you undertans it is actually *button smashing* + *timing* 20:22 hoodedice bbl =/ 20:22 Jordach hoodedice, nobody fucked with me on THUG2, because i mastered ground tricks 20:22 Jordach oh ffs 20:23 Jordach phones suck rubenwardy|phone 20:24 Jordach (even on my 9'' tablet, IRC still sucks) 20:24 Jordach not even a keyboard helps 20:25 rubenwardy|phone :P 20:25 rubenwardy|phone i can still type. 20:25 rubenwardy|phone well 20:26 rubenwardy|phone slide 20:27 Jordach swype is bullshit 20:27 sydneyJDykstra Now it says Minetest 0.4.9-dev,is that right? 20:27 Jordach not even typing 20:30 iqualfragile sydneyJDykstra: was your problem resolved? 20:30 sydneyJDykstra hoodedice: I am testing it now. 20:33 sydneyJDykstra Now it says ERROR:failed to download Mob Framework 20:39 iqualfragile i can reproduce that, it still is downloadable from https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/mobf/ 20:41 iqualfragile hmm… seems to be an error with minetest… 20:42 iqualfragile it tries to download the right file (https://forum.minetest.net/media/mod_vers/27/2014-01-12-17-19/animals_modpack-2.3.6.zip) and gets 200 as response and still fails… 20:43 iqualfragile !tell sapier modstore in minetest 4.9 and git both have problems with the modstore 20:43 MinetestBot iqualfragile: I'll pass that on when sapier is around 20:44 iqualfragile !tell sapier 4.9 (from jessie) crashes on opening the ingame, git fails to download a clearly existing file, even has the right url 20:44 MinetestBot iqualfragile: yeah, yeah 20:44 sfan5 >minetest 4.9 20:44 iqualfragile sydneyJDykstra: ok, will be fixed shortly 20:44 sfan5 especially you should know better 20:45 iqualfragile !tell sapier s/4.9/0.4.9/g 20:45 MinetestBot iqualfragile: I'll pass that on when sapier is around 20:45 sydneyJDykstra Thanks for all your help,I downloaded it manually. 20:46 sfan5 o/ Gambit 20:46 iqualfragile sfan5: not from the forums 20:46 Jordach iqualfragile, i know 20:46 sfan5 iqualfragile: I know 20:46 iqualfragile rubenwardy|phone: get rid of that $hit 20:47 rubenwardy|phone huh? 20:48 iqualfragile uh, read iphone 20:49 rubenwardy android :P 20:49 Jordach make hipsters kill themselves 20:50 Jordach fucking darwinisms the best thing to humanity since evolution 20:51 sfan5 john_minetest: put a mini-atx mainboard into a box and use it as phone 20:51 sfan5 then after 1 week tell me how it was 20:51 sfan5[iPod] iqualfragile: this better? 20:52 sfan5 john_minetest: even better, design your own using a Freescale SoC 20:52 sfan5 up to quad core 20:52 sfan5 cortex-a9 IIRC 20:52 sfan5 even with PCIe 20:52 sfan5 lolwut 20:52 sfan5 every laptop has a (kind of) SoC 20:53 sfan5 how does that make it faster? 20:53 sfan5 the raspberry pi has external ram too 20:53 sfan5 it's just put directly above the actual SoC 20:53 sfan5 also it would not be beneficial for Freescale to include ram into socs 20:54 sfan5 1) use ARM system as main system 20:54 sfan5 2) ??? 20:55 sfan5 3) No need for cross-compilers 20:55 sfan5 they can be fast 20:55 sfan5 compare(i7.cost, armcpu.cost) 20:55 sfan5 anyway 20:55 specing You did not pay $300 for your ARM CPU 20:56 sfan5 just wait until Freescale brings out an AArch64 cpu 20:56 specing also ARM sucks 20:56 specing but not speed-wise 20:56 sfan5 they even give you a free documentation 20:56 specing support is a clusterfuck 20:56 specing sfan5: LOL 20:56 specing sfan5: LOL 20:56 specing sfan5: LOL 20:56 sfan5 lol 20:56 PenguinDad lol 20:57 specing Can you tell me of an ARM CPU that has a GPU with FOSS drivers? 20:57 sfan5 the cpu of the rpi 20:57 rubenwardy|phone slipped and pressed the exit button :( 20:57 sfan5 there is a contest 20:58 specing indeed 20:58 sfan5 every fucking SoC is non-free 20:58 specing broadcom is just dropping some candy for you 20:58 sfan5 do you expect them to release their transistor layouts to you? 20:59 * sfan5 rotates john_minetest 360 degrees and encrypts him with double rot13 20:59 iqualfragile for twice the security! 20:59 iqualfragile better be safe then sory 21:00 sfan5 hey you thief 21:00 sfan5 I use that too 21:00 sfan5 but for my RAM 21:00 PenguinDad ultimate security :) 21:00 sfan5 !c 1 >> 106496 21:00 MinetestBot 0 21:00 sfan5 !c 1 << 106496 21:00 MinetestBot 309327286138948197608695824927467454419079929619879387240275908493943276264312701963581851351135679488885866605110966953706294762560114375522611033097590025038968860166046528042191307758492493429302939737170809171873644907972402725545746818050481756974838059516003856808344905624235584810373785325276536543916878523353894234267816518903270866670886271824905896810223309862698794776010468369755099260568078141076437187119897354608037314819746549703581435 21:00 sfan5 ah 21:00 sfan5 very effective 21:01 sfan5 !c struct.pack("!L", 123456789) 21:01 MinetestBot '\x07[\xcd\x15' 21:01 sfan5 ooh 21:01 * sfan5 throws Missingno. at joepie91 21:01 sfan5 oops 21:01 sfan5 john_minetest* 21:02 * specing smells arbitrary code execution by that bot 21:02 specing !c 1<< 1 21:02 MinetestBot 2 21:02 specing !c print "lol" 21:02 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 21:02 specing !c print ("lol") 21:02 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 21:02 specing hmm 21:02 specing oh well, carry on 21:22 markveidemanis Hi 21:32 markveidemanis !c __print__("lol") 21:32 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Sorry, but no double underscores. 21:33 markveidemanis woah 21:33 markveidemanis slow 21:39 sapier https://gist.github.com/sapier/9745980 Link to latest android port as well as list of known issues, please test and add your findings to this list! thanks! 21:58 celeron55 has someone used mobf for custom use cases? 21:59 celeron55 i'm wondering what is the simplest way to make a mob move towards a certain point on a map and do a special action once it reaches it 22:00 celeron55 i would like to have something take care of the low-level details of movement and supply it information where it's supposed to be going 22:02 Sokomine celeron55: in my experience, mobf works fine in singleplayer. the movements of the mobs there are more convincing than those in simple mobs or other mob mods (at least to me) 22:03 Sokomine celeron55: the trouble was that mobf is problematic on servers. the only server who runs it successfully is mineguild.de - and that hardly has more than 2-3 players at a time 22:03 celeron55 what limits it? 22:05 Sokomine best talk to vanessae and sapier - they know the details. the network protocol of mt did have problems in the past - players connecting and getting the media content of the models (several mb) caused so much lag the server became unplayable 22:06 Sokomine there are still reports about a) too much network traffic (talk to cheapie/vanessae about it) and b) occasional entity duplications 22:06 celeron55 i'm not going to use models, that's for sure 22:06 Sokomine why not? what do you intend to use instead? 22:06 celeron55 and this is not a persistent world, so duplication and small bugs isn't a huge issue 22:07 cheapie Yeah, VE-S lagged like crazy when mobs were installed. 22:07 celeron55 animated sprites, because i find then much more accessible 22:07 celeron55 them* 22:07 celeron55 and better looking 22:07 Sokomine hmm. that's a question of taste i think. to me, the 2d sprites are kind of creepy. mobf is closest to provide convincing animals 22:08 celeron55 creepy? all the better 22:08 Sokomine for player-like mobs, those sand- and dirtmonsters in simple mobs work pretty ok 22:08 celeron55 i'm not making a dollhouse 22:08 celeron55 but that's not the issue, stop talking about it 22:08 Sokomine ok. so the issue is movement? 22:08 celeron55 the issue is making mobs that behave specially without writing all movement details from scratch 22:09 Sokomine ah. mobf seems good for that. you can even select diffrent movement generators or write your own 22:09 celeron55 there is the path-based movement generator but it's hard to see how these really plug together 22:10 celeron55 for example, is there a working interface for supplying a target for it or is it somehow hardcoded to only accept targets from some kind of attack code 22:10 celeron55 ... and talking about attack code, i have no idea where that is 22:10 iqualfragile !tell sapier upd8 ur docs 22:12 Sokomine i experimented a bit with mobf and tried to teach them to use furniture (find a chair and sit down). that did work to a degree; you can supply targets for the movement generator withhin lua 22:13 Sokomine positions/coordinates as targets work fine 22:13 rubenwardy|phone interesting. i guess you mean villagers, rather than sheep :P 22:13 rubenwardy|phone or cows 22:13 Sokomine yes, the villages are supposed to sit down :-) 22:14 Sokomine my newest mod adds a trader. unfortionately, that doesn't help celeron as it does not do any movement at all. it just stands there and awaits customers 22:15 rubenwardy|phone would be hilarious to get sheep to sit down and read a newspaper 22:15 Sokomine *g* 22:15 Sokomine provide the animation and they may ,-) 22:16 rubenwardy|phone heh. i can't animate at all :( 22:16 celeron55 john_minetest: they don't have any kind of pathfinding management code so it's useless for this use case 22:16 celeron55 that's the most tedious part 22:17 Exio4 sapier probably knows 22:17 Exio4 :P 22:17 celeron55 yes he does, but he isn't here now 22:18 Sokomine hmm. did you take a look at npcf? afaik that's based on jordan4ibanez' movement code. the npc there manage to follow a player to a degree, and during a quick test, they didn't fell into holes but managed to reach me 22:18 rubenwardy|phone i haven't used mobf since... well, the last time i used it was when the animals and players were billboards. 22:19 rubenwardy|phone john-minetest: it's in the API, but it doesn't actually work. at least when i tried it. 22:20 Sokomine npcf can be found here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7321 22:20 rubenwardy|phone bye all. sleep time. 22:21 Sokomine sleep well 22:21 rubenwardy|phone time to count sheep sitting reading newspapers. 22:21 rubenwardy|phone :P 22:21 Sokomine hope they got a good newspaper to read from :-) 22:23 celeron55 npcf doesn't seem to do any magic regarding to movement either 22:23 celeron55 mobf seems to be my only hope 22:34 sydneyJDykstra When I upgrade my ubuntu version will i have to uninstall minetest before I do it? 22:36 sydneyJDykstra ? 22:41 celeron55 sydneyJDykstra: no, it will probably automatically uninstall minetest if the package becomes incompatible 22:42 sydneyJDykstra celeron55: ok thanks!! 22:45 VanessaE celeron55: there is also PilzAdam's "simple mobs" 22:46 VanessaE (that's the one I used, it's the lightest-weight one, but in its default state will add ~25-30 kB/sec of network bandwidth at the user's end, or so was the claim at the time) 22:47 celeron55 it was already discussed 22:47 VanessaE ok, I missed that part. 22:47 celeron55 00:17:10 < celeron55> john_minetest: they don't have any kind of pathfinding management code so it's useless for this use case 22:47 celeron55 00:17:20 < celeron55> that's the most tedious part 22:48 hevygale https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10213548/minetest/2014-03-21_00002.jpg that's "Simple Mobs" for me, endless spawningand 1fps Oo 22:48 VanessaE oh right. didn't read "PAs mobs" as anything special the first time. 22:48 VanessaE hevygale: EEEEEK 22:48 VanessaE it never did that on my box 22:49 celeron55 it's probably just what the germans call "normal difficulty" 22:49 hevygale :D I coudn't even move :D 22:50 hevygale does that just happen for me, or is that commom behaviour? 22:51 celeron55 dunno, but something related to that was recently fixed 22:51 celeron55 (in the engine) 22:51 hevygale my sever version is about 2 weeks old, head from github 22:51 celeron55 umm... maybe the fix broke things then 22:52 iqualfragile well, they are in reih und glied :D 22:53 hevygale this happend for all mob mods I tested so far, except modf 22:55 celeron55 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/db98ef6b4553e7b7cb99589740dc219902a90fbc 22:55 celeron55 the issue is probably this 22:55 celeron55 shout at sapier once he is back 22:56 celeron55 or just add an issue 22:56 hevygale I compiled on 6.3. that's 19 days ago, too 22:57 hevygale or wait :D 22:57 celeron55 that seems to have been made 2014-03-06 18:18:36 UTC 22:57 PilzAdam hevygale, its not supposed to be like that 22:57 hevygale sure it's not :D 22:58 PilzAdam I wonder how that sheep got into the desert 22:58 celeron55 what's probably happening is that mobs gets multiple ABM calls on the same block and as the object counts aren't always recalculated, it always sees that "oh, there's no objects here" 22:59 celeron55 there should be a mechanism that increases those counts when the ABM callback adds an entity 22:59 hevygale in the server appeared lots of messages like there are too many objects on a node and it willnow drop some 22:59 celeron55 or recalculates them 23:00 PilzAdam celeron55, also removal or moving away / into the block 23:00 celeron55 those are less important 23:00 VanessaE I wonder if that change is also what's causing the stack overflow on my Creative server when digging certain objects that are scanned/nodeupdate()'d inside an ABM (e.g. vines mod) 23:01 VanessaE hevygale: that's normal. ignore that message and concentrate what's causing them to stack up 23:01 celeron55 that doesn't explain what actually is happening on the server but probably nott 23:01 celeron55 -t 23:02 celeron55 (as vines are nodes nad this is completely an object issue) 23:02 PilzAdam VanessaE, do you have any 3d torches mod on your server? 23:02 VanessaE true true 23:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: on the affected server, the only "3d torches" are just the nodebox-based ones that originally came from the 3dforniture mod. nothing entity-based. 23:03 PilzAdam this has nothing to do with entities 23:03 VanessaE erm... 23:04 PilzAdam I just noticed a while ago that on some server there were 3d torches which always dropped when a nodeupate() call ran on them 23:04 PilzAdam just wanted to know what mod that is 23:04 VanessaE ooooohhhhh 23:04 VanessaE homedecor supplies them 23:04 VanessaE but I don't think they drop 23:04 VanessaE I think you are looking for one by... Blockmen maybe? 23:04 PilzAdam maybe 23:04 VanessaE wtf was it, I know the one you're thinking of 23:04 PilzAdam they look pretty MC like 23:04 VanessaE yeah 23:05 VanessaE uses a metric assload of really tiny nodeboxes 23:05 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6099 23:05 VanessaE bingo 23:05 VanessaE but not as "tiny" as I recalled. 23:05 PilzAdam yea, that its 23:05 PilzAdam *thats it 23:07 VanessaE I think in the case of Creative, the vines do it because whole columns of them are supposed to be able to drop or something 23:08 VanessaE I believe Sokomine was able to reproduce the bug on a clean singleplayer world with a copy of the errant tree and its vines via a worldedit savefile 23:09 Sokomine VanessaE: no, i don't think you're talking about the same torches. the ones in homedecor - which are based on the old 3dforniture mod - behave as they ought to. it's a new 3d torches mod that is still under development and sometimes has the problem pilzadam mentioned 23:09 Sokomine ah yes, the vines 23:09 VanessaE Sokomine: see above, PA wanted BlockMen's torch mod 23:10 Sokomine it's a combination of some of those vines beeing wall-mounted (wall in that case beeing leaves), there beeing so many vines in one area, and builtin calling all sourrounding nodes (3x3x3 cube) whenever one node is digged...so there's a huge cascade of vines that suddenly drop 23:11 Sokomine afaik there's at least one other 3dtorches mod around as well. might be more 23:11 PilzAdam does the vines mod use builtin's nodeupate()? 23:12 Sokomine so the problem on vanessas server is partly that of the mod and partly that of the engine/builtin (stack overflow errors are hard to follow/find the cause of them; perhaps a limit of affected nodes might help a lot there) 23:12 PilzAdam (this one: https://github.com/bas080/vines ?) 23:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: right mod, but no it doesn't call that function directly 23:12 Sokomine the vines mod has vines that grow on trees and are wallmounted 23:13 VanessaE init.lua:local vines_group = {attached_node=1,vines=1,snappy=3,flammable=2,hanging_node=1} 23:13 VanessaE so the nodes are "attached_node" 23:13 VanessaE it's the engine doing it on it's own at dig 23:13 VanessaE or well, the digging code is. 23:14 Sokomine and as the trees are big and in this special case overgrown with these vines, there are a lot of nodes that suddenly call for updates 23:14 Megaf Hi everyone 23:15 Sokomine it's a bit like that landslide you can see on freeminer servers - dig one sand and..a lot happens 23:15 Sokomine (or may happen) 23:16 PilzAdam attached_node doesnt have any delay like falling_node 23:17 Sokomine perhaps a dealy might help? 23:19 PilzAdam it certainly does help with falling nodes 23:20 PilzAdam can you reproduce the error reliably? 23:21 PilzAdam if yes then please try this: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/9773601 23:21 Sokomine the problematic tree can be found here: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/invasionofthevines.mts 23:22 Sokomine it may not always crash 23:24 PilzAdam meh, I currently have no good setup to place .mts 23:25 Sokomine no worldedit installed? 23:25 PilzAdam only my own worldedit++ 23:26 VanessaE so install it in any new world :P 23:33 blaise oh wow, 0.4.9 ? 23:33 blaise I feel like 0.4.1 was the last version I got to run 23:33 VanessaE pfft 23:33 VanessaE 0.4.10 is coming soon...ish 23:34 blaise VanessaE: am I losing my mind or something? 23:34 Sokomine PilzAdam: as far as i can tell, it seems to work fine. i set the delay higher to visualize the effect 23:34 blaise I think I am.. 23:34 blaise lol, I am.. 23:34 Sokomine blaise: a lot has improved since 0.4.1 :-) get the newest dev version running and connect to a server :-) 23:34 blaise Installed versions: 0.4.9(07:13:42 PM 01/15/2014) 23:38 Eater4 Hello 23:40 celeron55 oh by the way this is pretty bad http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-to-buy-oculus-rift-for-2-billion-2014-3 23:41 celeron55 it seemed like oculus vr was generally remotely ethical but now it's going to be the opposite of anything good in this world 23:42 EvergreenTree http://minetest.net/contributors Needs to be updated 23:42 EvergreenTree Hi celeron55 23:42 celeron55 (in case anyone is interested in such modern gaming-oriented news; it seems like generally nobody here does) 23:43 Eater4 Lol 23:48 crazyR_ c55: just read that link, mark is a genius, now when i go doctor and show my ass, i dont need to feel embarrased.... yeah like thats gunna work, he's an idiot lol :D 23:50 crazyR_ on a serius note, why does it feel like someone has pushed mark into buying it. its entirely out of context with what fb does and is 23:51 celeron55 dunno; maybe it speeds up the death of facebook which is too slow otherwise 23:53 crazyR_ lol maybe. somehow i think il be dead before fb is. he'l just keep throwing money at it i suppose 23:53 celeron55 also, when you go to your doctor in VR, think of what kinds of targeted advertisements facebook will display there 23:54 crazyR_ damn, now it makes sense lol 23:58 EvergreenTree Hi celeron55, hsven't seen you in a while 23:58 EvergreenTree *haven't 23:58 EvergreenTree on #minetest that is