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00:04 Eater4 Hello
00:10 hoodedice ?
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00:19 Eater4 Ok I am done :)
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01:04 hoodedice sfan5!
01:04 hoodedice Jordach!
01:04 hoodedice Whoever!
01:05 hoodedice bah -.-
01:07 hoodedice PilzAdam!
01:07 PilzAdam wasssssssuuuuuuuup
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01:17 ShadowNinja MinetestBot: Tell me message 1!
01:17 ShadowNinja Hmmm.
01:17 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^
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02:15 kahrl yay for math! http://imgur.com/w2o0WFZ
02:15 Menche :D
02:15 Menche lol
02:15 kahrl (names removed to protect the guilty)
02:15 Menche (most of the names)
02:16 ShadowNinja Hehe.
02:16 kahrl hehe
02:19 Eater4 Shadow ninja did you see my message?
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02:41 PiIzAdam Just so you all know, I'm leaving Minetest. So go ahead and ban me on the forums.
02:41 * Menche can tell capital i from lowercase L
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03:00 VanessaE nice fake.  :P
03:00 VanessaE Some of us aren't stupid enough to use fonts that make I look like l.  PiIzAdam != PilzAdam
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03:37 ShadowNinja Eater4: Yes, but I need a specific error message to help you fix it.
03:42 Eater4 1 sec
04:20 Eater4 It just says failure to run inti or master inti I think. I will have to get on my computer Tommorw. And share the pic w/ Onedrive
04:20 Eater4 .lua
04:21 Eater4 But it says it for every one I download off the internet
04:25 Eater4 Hm I want to be a irc op for #minetest isis.inchra.net
04:31 ShadowNinja Eater4: A IRC op is a network operator.  But I don't think you're ready for either network or channel op access.
04:31 ShadowNinja Eater4: You can copy and paste it from a terminal or debug.txt (use a pastebin like sprunge.us)
04:32 Eater4 Oh ok....when do u think I might be ready.... And k I will do that
04:34 ShadowNinja Eater4: A while.  But I will add you then.  Please don't ask for special privileges.
04:38 Eater4 Ok....
04:38 Eater4 I have self-body control....
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07:44 celeron55 does there exist a hud map mod somewhere?
07:46 celeron55 okay one is called mapp
07:48 kahrl there's this but it's not a mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8489
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08:18 john_minetest :3
08:18 john_minetest Hey
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09:06 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Tolkien Reading Day! :-D
09:12 john_minetest Hey JamesTait
09:14 JamesTait Hey john_minetest. :)
09:14 JamesTait I'm still lurking. ;)
09:14 crazyR morning
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10:32 hoodedice sfan5, wtf?
10:32 hoodedice The last shit I ever wanted to see was seeing this community split up like bacteria
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10:49 CWz compiling issues are pretty common with freeminer lately
10:54 crazyR hmm am i only seeing some messages on here or is there a private convo going on
10:57 diemartin pretty quiet morning
11:01 crazyR yep. tbh though i been busy all morning, damn world files are corrupt on my server. n last backup i have is 2 days old. was funny till the server crashed. half of a building was in mid air its like the chunks had randomly moved
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12:38 CWz Greetings
12:38 sfan5 meoe
12:38 sfan5 meow*
12:38 sfan5 hi everyone
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12:40 hoodedice PiIzAdam Just so you all know, I'm leaving Minetest. So go ahead and ban me on the forums.
12:40 hoodedice (lolwut)
12:41 sfan5 wat
12:41 PenguinDad what O_o
12:42 hoodedice http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-03-25#i_3627739
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12:48 sfan5 hoodedice: seems legit
12:48 hoodedice legit?
12:48 hoodedice That l looks like a capital I
12:49 PenguinDad not for me :P
12:50 sfan5 it is a capital i
12:50 enchilado Definitely a capital I.
12:50 hoodedice then?
12:50 enchilado That is, a capital i, not a capital l.
12:50 hoodedice ofc fake
12:51 sfan5 tw
12:52 sfan5 s/.*//
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12:52 hoodedice ?
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13:38 rubenwardy Hi all
13:42 CWz Hello]
13:47 rubenwardy oh god: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=134726#p134726
13:47 rubenwardy !title
13:47 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Post your mod requests/ideas here (Page 35) — Modding General — Minetest Forums
13:47 hoodedice Another one?
13:49 hoodedice Le me do the
13:49 hoodedice ~rtf\m
13:49 hoodedice ~rtfm
13:49 ShadowBot Read the friendly manual. See http://dev.minetest.net, http://git.io/olBD2w, and http://git.io/5COZ7A.
13:49 hoodedice Thank you, ShadowBot
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14:01 hoodedice PilzAdam: http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-03-25#i_3627739
14:01 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:01 rubenwardy Hi!
14:01 hoodedice Confirmed. PilzAdam is not leaving us.
14:01 hoodedice *sob*
14:02 PilzAdam if someone joins with my nick just wait 30 seconds
14:02 PilzAdam has someone the IP of him?
14:02 hoodedice lol
14:02 hoodedice Not in the logs, have to ask VanessaE or Menche
14:04 sfan5 :-(
14:04 sfan5 whowas doesn't remember him
14:04 celeron55 whowas of freenode is utterly useless
14:04 celeron55 it never remembers anyone when you want it to
14:05 celeron55 but i guess it's good for privacy
14:05 sfan5 :O
14:05 sfan5 celer*n55 in in this channel
14:05 sfan5 this is new
14:05 sfan5 you used to not be here
14:05 sfan5 s/to not/not to/
14:05 hoodedice The GM thingy broughthim here
14:05 hoodedice =/
14:05 celeron55 no
14:06 hoodedice Spring Break?
14:06 celeron55 i came here because of the first line i said after i came
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14:06 sfan5 <celer*n55> does there exist a hud map mod somewhere?
14:06 hoodedice hmm.
14:06 hoodedice There's that one that is an engine add-on
14:07 sfan5 was already said
14:08 celeron55 and all the answers to the question were already said; then i just didn't leave
14:08 sfan5 please don' leave, we like you :-)
14:08 sfan5 +t
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14:09 sfan5 what reason did you stop being in #minetest anyway?
14:09 sfan5 +for
14:09 hoodedice The spamming?
14:09 hoodedice And the obvious off-topic talk here
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14:20 CWz what is a whowas
14:21 hoodedice *whhois
14:21 hoodedice **whois
14:21 PenguinDad it is sort of /whois for the past
14:21 sfan5 hoodedice: there is also whowas
14:21 hoodedice oh, yeah lol
14:21 CWz what does it do?
14:22 PenguinDad and there is who
14:22 sfan5 CWz: can show you the whois of someone who already left
14:22 celeron55 well at the moment /whowas Leoneof shows a result
14:22 celeron55 while that one left half an hour ago
14:23 celeron55 it seems like freenode probably stores them for 1h
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14:33 sfan5 >celeron, you may want to get rid of hoodedice before he gets you guys sued.
14:33 sfan5 lel
14:33 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=134747#p134747
14:33 john_minetest Hey celeron55! Long time no see!
14:33 * hoodedice has been banned from the forums
14:33 hoodedice wut?
14:33 hoodedice lol
14:34 sfan5 hoodedice: stop saying false things
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14:40 VanessaE all I got was 2ea5dde6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.165.221.230
14:40 VanessaE for the PilzAdam fake.
14:42 john_minetest That IP seems to be german
14:44 john_minetest Looks like the western middle of germany.
14:45 DeepGaze just curiosity from someone who does not understand the subject:
14:45 DeepGaze https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=134747#p134747
14:45 DeepGaze what is happening
14:45 PenguinDad john_minetest: it's a vpn
14:45 hoodedice I gave his game bad ratings on WOT
14:46 hoodedice https://www.mywot.com/en/sco​recard/globeminner.com#view
14:46 hoodedice Which in turn reduces Google based traffic to his site
14:46 hoodedice He wants me to delete it
14:47 DeepGaze not the issue with you: the issue with globalminner
14:47 john_minetest I gave bad ratings, too. But I haven't got an account.
14:47 hoodedice They were initially selling MT for $15
14:48 DeepGaze Why?
14:48 DeepGaze does that breach the licence? and in what way
14:50 us`0gb It only breaches the license if they don't include source code.
14:50 us`0gb I'm not sure if they do or not.
14:52 rubenwardy New profile picture! https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2051
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14:59 PilzAdam DeepGaze, it doesnt violate the licence as far as we know, but its against the ideas of morality of some community members to sell stuff that you have done nothing for
14:59 PilzAdam rubenwardy, there is no texture atlas since 0.4.6
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15:01 rubenwardy It would be good in punbb if you could undelete posts, and then take away a user's privilege to delete posts. Just thinking.
15:01 rubenwardy Not necessarily related to the current scenario
15:01 rubenwardy ah
15:01 rubenwardy thanks, PilzAdam, I didn't know that :P
15:03 rubenwardy DeepGaze, this sums it up: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=134419#p134419    https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=134575#p134575
15:03 rubenwardy :P
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15:14 celeron55 nothing sums it up; practically everybody talking in there is wrong
15:15 celeron55 and everyone thinks they are right
15:16 celeron55 it doesn't help the issue that the globeminer person is rather childish too in the way he gets stuck arguing with 15 year olds
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15:16 rubenwardy Back XD
15:16 celeron55 it's just a farce
15:17 rubenwardy true
15:17 rubenwardy By sums up, i mean the "uneffical" side / argument thing
15:18 rubenwardy It is probably for the best that it was deleted
15:19 rubenwardy Nice word, farce.
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15:23 celeron55 hmm, who moved it to trash?
15:24 celeron55 oh no need to tell, there's the moderator log
15:25 rubenwardy A general question: Where do you see Minetest in a year?
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15:26 rubenwardy (to anyone)
15:26 hoodedice 5.0.0
15:26 sfan5 lolno
15:26 rubenwardy lol
15:26 sfan5 more like 0.5.3
15:26 rubenwardy !c 0.4.9/3
15:26 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:26 rubenwardy !c 0.49/3
15:26 MinetestBot 0.16333333333333333
15:26 hoodedice *0.5.0
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15:26 rubenwardy !c 0.16333*4
15:26 MinetestBot 0.65332
15:27 hoodedice RBA - At this rate, we won't hit 1.0 in the next century
15:27 rubenwardy At the current rate of progress, 0.6.5
15:27 rubenwardy apparently
15:27 rubenwardy meh
15:27 rubenwardy bad calculation
15:27 hoodedice When he was told that next version is 0.4.10 and not 0.5.0
15:27 sfan5 !c "calculate"
15:27 MinetestBot 'calculate'
15:27 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
15:27 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
15:27 hoodedice #strung
15:27 rubenwardy ha
15:27 hoodedice *Strng
15:27 hoodedice **String
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15:30 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr(ord(t[0]) ^ ord(t[1])) for t in zip("String", '8\x1d\x06\x1d\x0b\t'))
15:30 MinetestBot 'kitten'
15:30 sfan5 ^ rubenwardy
15:31 rubenwardy oh god
15:31 rubenwardy wow
15:31 hoodedice Such string.
15:31 sfan5 I proved that kittens are in string
15:31 sfan5 s/kittens are/kitten is/
15:32 hoodedice brb
15:33 rubenwardy I hope that client side scripting will be a thing next year
15:34 celeron55 !c ''.join(x for x in xrange(0,2**31))
15:34 celeron55 does it work? 8)
15:34 CWz I think the next year minetest will be on version 0.4.20
15:34 celeron55 best troll ever 5/5
15:34 sfan5 lol
15:35 CWz what troll
15:35 sfan5 wat
15:35 celeron55 wait what, why did it even fail
15:35 sfan5 it just exited
15:35 sfan5 [LOG]: celeron55 calculated '''.join(x for x in xrange(0,2**31))'
15:35 sfan5 user@butterfly:~/mtbot$
15:35 sfan5 no error, nothing
15:35 celeron55 that was an erroneus statement, it would have needed str(x) instead of x to work
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15:36 PenguinDad celeron55: you killed her
15:36 sfan5 [2413688.546168] Out of memory in UB 3425: OOM killed process 3682 (python) score 0 vm:647624kB, rss:122736kB, swap:229676kB
15:36 sfan5 this makes sense
15:36 celeron55 oh maybe it works in some version of python... whatever
15:37 sfan5 it only throws the error when the generator finished providing numbers
15:37 celeron55 ah
15:37 sfan5 try ''.join(x for x in xrange(31))
15:37 sfan5 try ''.join(x for x in xrange(31))
15:37 celeron55 on my laptop it just went fine
15:37 sfan5 (wtf?! xchat)
15:38 celeron55 oh wait... i fail too
15:38 celeron55 okay so it first generates and then converts, that makes sense, yes
15:38 sfan5 welp
15:38 sfan5 need more mem
15:38 sfan5 8G not enough
15:38 celeron55 i have 16, let's see
15:39 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I")
15:39 MinetestBot 4
15:39 celeron55 12065 celeron+  20   0 19,604g 0,014t    348 R  48,2 92,3   0:46.39 python
15:39 celeron55 not gonna work
15:39 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") * int(0,2**31)
15:39 MinetestBot OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
15:39 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1.0L * int(0,2**31)
15:39 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:39 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1L * int(0,2**31)
15:39 MinetestBot OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
15:39 sfan5 I can't python any more :-(
15:40 celeron55 you get the error from int()
15:40 sfan5 ah
15:40 celeron55 it's one too large
15:40 sfan5 !c long
15:40 MinetestBot <type 'long'>
15:40 celeron55 you need 2**31-1 8)
15:40 sfan5 !c 0,2**31
15:40 MinetestBot (0, 2147483648)
15:40 sfan5 wat
15:41 sfan5 oh right
15:41 sfan5 , is for tuple and . is decimal point
15:41 sfan5 !c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1L * 2**31
15:41 MinetestBot 8589934592L
15:41 sfan5 !c 8 * 1L * 2**31 / 1024.0 / 1024.0 / 1024.0
15:41 MinetestBot 16.0
15:42 sfan5 seems like you need exactly 16gb ram
15:42 sfan5 hm
15:42 celeron55 python isn't that efficient
15:43 celeron55 there's probably at least one pointer and some extra bytes per value
15:43 sfan5 let's rewrite it in C
15:44 celeron55 yeah, let's make a bot that runs any C code you give to it
15:44 hoodedice ...
15:44 celeron55 sounds like a fine idea
15:44 hoodedice What exactly are you guys trying to compute?
15:44 sfan5 hoodedice: numbers
15:44 celeron55 nothing useful
15:45 hoodedice sfan5: I see that PilzAdam has been effecting you lately =)
15:45 celeron55 i just wanted to see all the numbers between 0 and 2^31 but the bot didn't let me :-/
15:46 sfan5 !py n = __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing && /tmp/thing", shell=True);n.write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf("Hello World!\n");}");n.read()
15:46 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
15:46 sfan5 oh
15:46 sfan5 would be too nice if that'd work
15:46 rubenwardy !py print("hi")
15:47 rubenwardy !py sys.exit(-1)
15:47 rubenwardy Nope :P
15:48 hoodedice Let's keep it simple
15:48 celeron55 !c open("/etc/passwd").read()
15:48 MinetestBot NameError: name 'open' is not defined
15:48 celeron55 some kind of sandbox 8)
15:48 hoodedice !py value = 10   print value
15:48 hoodedice ...
15:48 hoodedice !py print value
15:48 sfan5 hoodedice: stop trying !py, only I can use it
15:48 hoodedice MinetestBot!
15:48 MinetestBot hoodedice!
15:48 rubenwardy You probably need admin rights with MinetestBot
15:49 hoodedice Yaay, I gets feedback
15:49 rubenwardy 3> MinetestBot
15:49 hoodedice rubenwardy, ur doin its wrongs
15:49 PenguinDad E> MinetestBot
15:49 rubenwardy E>
15:49 rubenwardy 3>
15:49 rubenwardy 3<
15:49 rubenwardy oh well
15:50 sfan5 rubenwardy: it's <3
15:50 rubenwardy <3 MinetestBot
15:50 MinetestBot <3 rubenwardy
15:50 hoodedice <3 MinetestBot
15:50 MinetestBot <3 hoodedice
15:50 rubenwardy oh yeah
15:50 hoodedice Ninjas, ninjas everywhere
15:50 john_minetest <3 MinetestBot
15:50 MinetestBot <3 john_minetest
15:51 hoodedice sfan5, bot abuses
15:51 harrison Does the government have a moon base? Does the government have a talking bear? Does the government have a cyborg army?
15:51 harrison i am not a bear
15:51 hoodedice MinetestBot, go away
15:51 harrison i am a free mammal!
15:51 rubenwardy !kick MinetestBot
15:51 hoodedice *cough*
15:51 * hoodedice kicks MinetestBot
15:51 john_minetest harrison: Which gouvernment
15:51 john_minetest ?
15:51 hoodedice john_minetest: Taliban
15:51 rubenwardy EastAsia
15:51 hoodedice *Pfft*
15:51 john_minetest Germans have a secret moonbase from 1945.
15:52 rubenwardy * cough * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N​ations_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four
15:52 john_minetest I bet russians have a talking bear.
15:52 hoodedice Could be Russia
15:52 * hoodedice has been Ninja'd
15:52 hoodedice Cyborgs could be Japanese
15:53 john_minetest Yep
15:53 sfan5 !py v = 1
15:53 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
15:53 hoodedice Everyone, what is your favourite MinetestBot moment?
15:54 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54 MinetestBot TypeError: popen() takes no keyword arguments (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
15:54 sfan5 cmon
15:54 sfan5 __import__("os").popen("gcc - -o /tmp/thing").write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54 sfan5 !pc __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54 MinetestBot TypeError: popen() takes no keyword arguments (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
15:54 hoodedice *!py
15:54 sfan5 i give up
15:54 sfan5 too stupid to do things
15:54 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing").write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54 hoodedice Definitely not sfan5's favourite moment.
15:55 sfan5 oops
15:55 sfan5 MinetestBot!
15:55 MinetestBot sfan5!
15:55 sfan5 *phew*
15:55 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("/tmp/thing").read()
15:55 MinetestBot ''
15:55 sfan5 :-(
15:55 hoodedice thing is what?
15:55 hoodedice Have you defined thing?
15:55 PilzAdam I think we should stop abusing the bots now
15:55 sfan5 gcc was supposed to write there
15:56 * hoodedice agrees with PilzAdam
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15:56 * PenguinDad pets MinetestBot
15:56 rubenwardy !rainbow <PilzAdam> I think we should stop abusing the bots now
15:56 MinetestBot 4<4P4i7l7z7A8d8a8m3>3 3I th6i6n6k we4 4s4h7o7u7l8d8 8s3t3o3p ab6u6s6ing 4t4h4e7 7b7o8t8s8 3n3o3w
15:56 hoodedice *cough*
15:56 sfan5 !rainbow raaaaaaiiiinnnnboooooowww
15:56 MinetestBot 4r4a4a7a7a7a8a8i8i3i3i3nnnn6b6o6oooo4o4w4w7w
15:57 rubenwardy Wooo!
15:57 hoodedice I see the PilzAdam effect
15:57 Hirato !rainbow This is pretty fabulous
15:57 MinetestBot 4T4h4i7s7 7i8s8 8p3r3e3tty 6f6a6bulo4u4s
15:57 hoodedice *PilzAdam ripple effect
15:57 hoodedice !ignore sfan5 Hirato rubenwardy
15:57 * rubenwardy read "nipple effect"
15:57 * hoodedice slaps rubenwardy
15:57 Hirato :(
15:57 sfan5 !ignore hoodedice
15:57 MinetestBot sfan5: 'hoodedice' added to ignore list.
15:57 sfan5 :D
15:57 hoodedice Get your head out of the gutter, dude.
15:57 sfan5 !unignore hoodedice
15:57 MinetestBot sfan5: 'hoodedice' removed from ignore list.
15:58 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
15:58 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
15:58 hoodedice =)
15:58 Hirato nipple ripple
15:58 hoodedice Look at this pic of a bare nipple http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yDZ_9b2nHz0/TCvZym2eraI/​AAAAAAAAAbQ/OXpFSSLpV2s/s1600/bottle%20nipple.jpg
15:58 sfan5 *regenerates irc stats*
15:58 rubenwardy NO
15:58 celeron55 so, if someone is still wondering why i'm not usually here, maybe the answer becomes clear by following the discussion
15:58 hoodedice ^^
15:58 celeron55 this is the most random channel ever in existence
15:59 rubenwardy lol
15:59 hoodedice I told ya'll so
15:59 Hirato awh, I love you too~!
15:59 rubenwardy #minetest-offtopic is fun!
15:59 celeron55 i am on channels that don't even have any topic
15:59 celeron55 but they are more on-topic than this one
15:59 sfan5 but we don't have any !rainbows in #minete3st-dev
15:59 sfan5 -3
15:59 Hirato I'm on plenty of those on quakenet :M
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16:00 sfan5 !rainbow hey there's Jordach
16:00 MinetestBot 4h4e4y7 7t7h8e8r8e3'3s3 Jor6d6a6ch
16:00 hoodedice Jordach!
16:00 hoodedice !tell Jordach hi!
16:00 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
16:00 hoodedice *cough*
16:00 Jordach wat
16:00 Jordach wat
16:00 sfan5 MinetestBot!
16:00 MinetestBot sfan5!
16:01 sfan5 are you broken again?
16:01 hoodedice [11:55] <PilzAdam> I think we should stop abusing the bots now
16:01 rubenwardy It would be hilarious if MinetestBot mimicked everything you say with !rainbow <msg>    Maybe for specific users.
16:01 hoodedice Everyone pulls the PilzAdam on PilzAdam.
16:01 sfan5 rubenwardy: ofc I already have that function
16:01 sfan5 +ality
16:01 Hirato hoodedice is actually a contraction of hoodeDice, or hooded Dice; a gang of 6 sided die rampaging around the neighborhood and somehow rolling 20's
16:01 rubenwardy ha
16:01 hoodedice ha.
16:02 sfan5 ok, IRC stats updated
16:02 hoodedice Yaay
16:02 sfan5 ( http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html for the uninformed)
16:02 hoodedice "<sfan5> who the fuck hosts server on windows?"
16:02 sfan5 25NekoGloop357812991625611556yesterday"pilz you're the biggest troll here"
16:03 hoodedice hehe
16:03 sfan5 16rubenwardy616018544231today"!rainbow <PilzAdam> I think we should stop abusing the bots now"
16:03 sfan5 this one too
16:03 rubenwardy I like that
16:03 rubenwardy wow! I was the last one to use "where"
16:03 DeepGaze is there a teleport tutorial for immature mod makers
16:04 hoodedice Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 42 times.
16:04 sfan5 I also patched pisg to ignore nicknames with 5 or less chars
16:04 sfan5 DeepGaze: lua_api.txt
16:04 rubenwardy "There" is a nick
16:04 hoodedice DeepGaze, just use minetest get players in radius
16:04 hoodedice And then use minetest set pos
16:04 hoodedice or player set pos
16:04 sfan5 or rather just minetest.get_player_by_nam​e("deepgaze").setpos({x=1, y=2, z=3})
16:04 Hirato well shit, I've spammed 1275 messages^W^W^W shared 1275 thoughts
16:04 hoodedice Remember to quit the loop if you loop it
16:05 DeepGaze i am meaning making a  three point teleporter
16:05 hoodedice One of my biggest looping shenanigans - I forget to return.
16:05 hoodedice Owait....
16:05 DeepGaze a-b controlled by c
16:05 DeepGaze all A,B andC baing blocks
16:05 hoodedice bbl people
16:06 DeepGaze *and C being
16:07 hoodedice celeron55: I say #minetest-offtopic be made official
16:07 * PenguinDad slaps Jordach for the stats
16:07 hoodedice and #minetest be renamed to #minetest-support
16:08 * hoodedice slaps PenguinDad for the reference
16:08 rubenwardy Automatically redirect to #minetest to #minetest-offtopic :P
16:08 rubenwardy It seems that is all they do
16:08 rubenwardy na, keep it as it is
16:10 DeepGaze my three point teleporter concept(not coded yet)
16:10 DeepGaze player places A+C
16:10 DeepGaze player connects A to C
16:10 DeepGaze player tells A where to put B
16:10 DeepGaze B saves the nodes identity of what it is replacing
16:10 DeepGaze B force loads The chunk
16:10 DeepGaze B connects to C
16:10 DeepGaze Player hits A
16:10 DeepGaze C disconnects from B
16:10 DeepGaze B is destroyed and the node replaced
16:11 rubenwardy "FOSS project, but currently poorly managed resulting in questionable forum and game content."    https://www.mywot.com/en/sc​orecard/forum.minetest.net
16:11 celeron55 "adult content" :D
16:12 celeron55 that's not allowed in rules and will definitely result in an instant ban
16:12 hoodedice Nipples
16:12 hoodedice http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yDZ_9b2nHz0/TCvZym2eraI/​AAAAAAAAAbQ/OXpFSSLpV2s/s1600/bottle%20nipple.jpg
16:12 rubenwardy celeron55: he may mean swearing
16:12 kahrl hexafraction... yes I remember that name https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6069
16:13 sfan5 !title
16:13 MinetestBot sfan5: Recent DoS attacks on Minetest servers (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetest Forums
16:13 sfan5 !sfu *hexa*
16:13 MinetestBot hexafraction 8New member 1 posts, registered on 2013-05-21 | id: 5715
16:13 celeron55 oh maybe that... well the adultness of that depends on the country
16:13 sfan5 ah
16:13 hoodedice whoa...
16:13 celeron55 some seem to see it more bad than guns
16:13 celeron55 +as
16:14 * celeron55 is pointing over the atlantic
16:14 * hoodedice not me!
16:15 PilzAdam :-/ user ID 1337 is some random spammer
16:15 sfan5 https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/minetest.net
16:15 sfan5 >child safety: excellent
16:15 DeepGaze * contemplating 42
16:15 rubenwardy bye all#
16:15 DeepGaze why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
16:16 hoodedice *cough*
16:16 hoodedice One look at Jordach, and we all know how *excellent* our child service is
16:16 hoodedice *safety
16:17 DeepGaze prefer sevice
16:17 sfan5 >MineTest.net Whois Record
16:17 sfan5 >MineTest
16:17 sfan5 it burns
16:17 hoodedice Guys guys
16:17 hoodedice Top site on WOT is mail.ru
16:17 hoodedice tololololol
16:18 sfan5 I wonder how they calculate the seo score of 85%
16:18 celeron55 i like it how they have a big download button at the right side of their site
16:18 celeron55 DOWNLOAD (our addon)
16:18 sfan5 oh yeah
16:18 sfan5 that stuff is annoying
16:19 celeron55 it's a fact that most of the websites on the internet pay their bills by money given to them by completely clueless people that click links like that instead of the hidden real content
16:20 hoodedice Okay guys, new dig
16:20 hoodedice rarekin IS hexafraction
16:21 celeron55 lol
16:21 hoodedice rarekin has this MT fork he calls mosstest
16:21 hoodedice Look at this: https://www.mywot.com/en/scorec​ard/forum-mosstest.rhcloud.com/
16:21 celeron55 ilovepetras.com just contacted me by email, asking whether i want to sell minetest on CDs
16:22 celeron55 that's some marketing right there
16:24 celeron55 (that's the CD service that globeminer uses)
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16:38 CWz what is the difference between using make -j2 and make -j4?
16:39 hoodedice -j2 uses 1 core
16:39 hoodedice -j4 uses three
16:40 hoodedice If your PC has two cores you would use make -j3
16:40 PenguinDad and what does -j1 mean then? :p
16:41 CWz 0 cores of course
16:41 hoodedice Your code won't compile
16:41 hoodedice =)
16:41 hoodedice lololol.
16:41 john_minetest I heard "-j<number_of_cores>"
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16:41 PenguinDad hoodedice: I actually compile with -j1
16:41 john_minetest I compile with -j4 or -j8
16:41 hoodedice I do with -j3
16:41 hoodedice Dual core celeron
16:42 hoodedice owait...
16:42 john_minetest I got a quadcore i7
16:42 harrison Dual stalk Celery
16:42 harrison i think you could use -j9 then
16:42 hoodedice *cough*
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16:42 harrison due to hyperthreading
16:43 sfan5 hoodedice: -j2 uses 2 threads
16:43 sfan5 -j4 uses 4 threads
16:43 harrison 4 core i7 has 8 hypercores
16:44 PenguinDad I prefer CPUs with only physical cores
16:44 * hoodedice agrees.
16:44 * hoodedice also loves his Celeron.
16:44 kahrl I think the idea behind 1 more job than # of cores is to always have a potential job to fill CPU time when some other job is waiting on I/O
16:45 kahrl dunno if it's worth it...
16:45 celeron55 it can just make the system unresponsive and possibly make bad usage of the CPU cache
16:47 hoodedice BUt for compiling, I think faster is always better
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16:48 hoodedice I think it was VanessaE who told me that -j(x) is x=number of cores + 1
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16:49 markveidemanis Hi
16:49 PilzAdam <hoodedice> -j2 uses 1 core
16:49 PilzAdam <hoodedice> -j4 uses three
16:49 PilzAdam lolwat
16:49 markveidemanis http://pastebin.com/GYB0hyuL
16:49 hoodedice *cough*
16:49 markveidemanis I tried compiling inside an external EXT4 partition
16:49 hoodedice [citation: VanessaE]
16:49 PilzAdam markveidemanis, why do you come here every other day with the same error message?
16:50 markveidemanis Because the solution does not change the output
16:50 sfan5 markveidemanis: try compiling a static binary in your normal linux distro
16:51 markveidemanis Like what?
16:53 sfan5 ???
16:54 PilzAdam PenguinDad, you dont have to write -j1
16:54 celeron55 hoodedice: bad usage of the cache = a lot of slowdown
16:55 markveidemanis I don't know what you mean by staatic library
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16:56 sfan5 markveidemanis: compile minetest, set CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS to -static
16:56 markveidemanis -DCMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS=-static ?
16:57 sfan5 yes
16:57 celeron55 what
16:58 celeron55 that is clearly missing irrlicht headers
17:00 celeron55 don't try anything before making sure it's reading them
17:01 markveidemanis Heres my cmake command:
17:01 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8967844
17:01 sfan5 glibc won't let me link statically
17:01 sfan5 bah
17:01 sfan5 -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=/home/mark/Downloads/irr
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17:01 sfan5 I don't even
17:01 sfan5 face meet desk
17:02 celeron55 markveidemanis: remove all that irrlicht stuff and use IRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR
17:03 Calinou make -j$(grep "vendor" /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l)
17:03 Calinou detects CPU threads
17:03 celeron55 which has to point to the extracted irrlicht directory (usually called something like irrlicht-1.x.x
17:03 Calinou there is shorter, but I forgot it
17:03 Calinou it's in my compile script, see the forum
17:03 sfan5 markveidemanis: did you download irrlicht for linux/compile it?
17:04 sfan5 or did you just dl the irrlicht source code?
17:05 celeron55 i am assuming markveidemanis is compiling a server
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17:05 celeron55 otherwise he would have it regularly installed
17:05 celeron55 or wait
17:05 celeron55 is this the fedora thing?
17:06 markveidemanis I did not compile irrlicht
17:06 celeron55 use the rpmfusion repositories
17:06 sfan5 oh
17:06 sfan5 hm right
17:06 sfan5 you don't need the irrlicht lib for the server
17:07 john_minetest mark has centos iirc
17:07 markveidemanis yep
17:07 john_minetest which is fedora/rhl
17:07 celeron55 centos is all the s ame
17:07 celeron55 same*
17:07 markveidemanis I read I still need the headers
17:07 celeron55 all of these have only a few official packages
17:07 celeron55 you're supposed to take into use rpmfusion or a similar one so that you get a reasonable number of packages available
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17:07 markveidemanis I used EPEL
17:08 celeron55 but it doesn't have irrlicht?
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17:08 celeron55 rpmfusion has, or at least i have it installed as a package from somewhere on this fedora box
17:08 celeron55 and i only have official repos plus rpmfusion
17:09 celeron55 (and a couple of very specific ones)
17:12 markveidemanis So i get rpmfusion and install irrlicht?
17:12 celeron55 irrlicht and irrlicht-devel
17:12 markveidemanis ok
17:13 celeron55 wait
17:13 markveidemanis Should that fix the errors?
17:13 celeron55 it seems like it is available in the official repositories
17:13 celeron55 https://apps.fedoraproject.​org/packages/irrlicht-devel
17:13 celeron55 just install it
17:13 celeron55 wtf are you even doing
17:14 celeron55 this looks like the most trivial thing to do ever
17:14 markveidemanis I missed that package
17:14 markveidemanis Installed irrlicht though
17:18 john_minetest Caling minetest "globeminner" in the code is a change to the code. The changed code hasn't been published. Hey :D
17:19 markveidemanis wheres the globeminner topic gone?
17:19 sfan5 markveidemanis: trash
17:19 markveidemanis if I made a post in a topic that is deleted, do I keep my post number?
17:19 sfan5 yes
17:20 sfan5 you can even delete a post by you and you won't get -1 on posts
17:21 Calinou <celeron55> use the rpmfusion repositories
17:21 markveidemanis k
17:21 Calinou you don't need RPMfusion for t hat...
17:21 markveidemanis we know
17:21 Calinou usual Fedora hater *cough*
17:21 markveidemanis <celeron55> it seems like it is available in the official repositories
17:21 markveidemanis I hate fedora
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17:22 markveidemanis it is light but debian is better
17:22 sfan5 <markveidemanis> I hate fedora
17:22 sfan5 why do you have it then?
17:23 markveidemanis I am compiling it for my server
17:23 markveidemanis It'll be worth the stress though
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17:25 john_minetest fedora seems like a nice distro.
17:25 harrison i recommend siduction which is debian unstable plus a few enhancements
17:25 * sfan5 throws Arch Linux at john_minetest
17:26 * Jordach opens bag of Galaxy Minstrels
17:26 MinetestBot Jordach: 03-25 16:00 UTC <hoodedice> hi!
17:28 celeron55 fedora is good if one wants a full-featured distro that is able to keep itself not broken
17:28 celeron55 i like it, mostly
17:28 Jordach Windows is good if you can't understand Linux one bit
17:29 celeron55 i understand linux probably more than anyone here and i still hate archlinux, because it makes me do things that i couldn't care less doing
17:29 sfan5 how about LFS?
17:29 celeron55 that's the worst
17:30 celeron55 but i think everyone should use gentoo and arch as long as it takes for them to learn it all and then they naturally want to move to distros that automate the stuff
17:30 sfan5 I only use arch linux if I need a system with no shit preloaded
17:31 Jordach celeron55, i'd be using linux right now - except that it's a brand new machine :P
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17:31 rubenwardy Hi all!
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17:37 markveidemanis Trying to make now...
17:40 markveidemanis I got the same error
17:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: then something is still wrong
17:40 sfan5 try re-running cmake
17:41 markveidemanis i defined IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR because it threw an error
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17:44 celeron55 run make clean and remove CMakeFiles and CMakeCache.txt
17:44 celeron55 then run cmake again without any irrlicht options
17:44 celeron55 then it will workj
17:44 celeron55 -j
17:45 markveidemanis ok
17:45 markveidemanis Trying...
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17:48 crazyR does anyone know whats required in order to run minetestmapper.py aside from python & PIL
17:48 sfan5 crazyR: use my cpp mapper
17:48 sfan5 much faster
17:48 sfan5 http://github.com/sfan5/minetest-mapper-cpp
17:49 crazyR i did try it but i got other errors. 1 min let me look up the errors i got
17:50 crazyR logs gone, give me a few mins, il add it again and see what happens lol
17:51 rubenwardy cpp is much better
17:51 sfan5 rubenwardy: do you like the autogenerates colors mine has
17:51 sfan5 ?
17:51 celeron55 sfan5: >we cannot use ... char>> here because mingw-gcc is f**king retarded
17:52 celeron55 sfan5: use -std=c++0x and it will work
17:52 sfan5 well
17:52 celeron55 that > > stuff is actually in the standard
17:52 celeron55 (and was removed)
17:52 sfan5 why do gcc and clang have it working by default but mingw-gcc does not?
17:52 sfan5 s/gcc/g++/
17:53 celeron55 i don't know; what versions?
17:53 sfan5 the devs of libvpx broke vp9 again </unrelated>
17:54 sfan5 586-mingw32msvc-g++ (GCC) 4.2.1-sjlj (mingw32-2)
17:54 markveidemanis Do Irrlicht arguments: http://pastie.org/8967980
17:55 sfan5 markveidemanis: your source tree is damaged
17:55 sfan5 extract it again
17:56 markveidemanis minetest?
17:56 sfan5 yes
17:56 celeron55 oh 4.2 doesn't even support c++0x
17:57 celeron55 it's many years old
17:57 celeron55 i guess they enable that functionality by default in newer versions then
17:58 celeron55 4.3 would support it via -std=c++0x
17:58 sfan5 hm
17:58 sfan5 the ubuntu repo maintainers should really update
17:59 markveidemanis Each time I get slightly better luck
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18:00 celeron55 mingw is lagging a lot behind anyway though
18:00 celeron55 their brand new version seems to be 4.4
18:01 celeron55 wait... this is a good point
18:01 celeron55 it means that not only visual studio 2010 is holding us in the old standard; also mingw is
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18:02 Jordach celeron55, we won't have to target win xp soon
18:02 Jordach (thank fuck)
18:03 Jordach which means we can just target ME II
18:04 Jordach otherwise known as vista :P
18:04 markveidemanis Another error
18:04 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8968009
18:05 Jordach markveidemanis, just go back to windowsx
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18:05 celeron55 what version of irrlicht is that?
18:06 celeron55 i have 1.8.1 2.fc20 x86_64
18:06 markveidemanis idk how to find out
18:06 markveidemanis Except I have i386
18:07 celeron55 umm... well i used yum info irrlicht-devel
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18:07 crazyR sfan5: thanks works like a charm.
18:07 markveidemanis 1.7.3
18:08 markveidemanis bbl
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18:09 celeron55 what
18:09 celeron55 why do you have fedora EPEL 6?
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18:10 celeron55 or more like "use"
18:10 celeron55 anyway comment out the offending line in irrlichttypes.h
18:10 celeron55 this is an old and since fixed (by fedora) problem
18:10 Krock Hello
18:11 hoodedice Hi Krock =)
18:11 * hoodedice uses Windows 8.1 and thinks it's the best Windows OS ever.
18:12 Krock Saw c55 first time..should i better say "OMG hello omgomgomg celeron55, I'm biggest fan of you, gimme an autogramme" or say nothing? :3
18:12 hoodedice (Apart from the crappy Audio Drivers from realtek. *hoodedice uses custom realtek drivers)
18:12 hoodedice Krock, I don't even
18:13 Krock hoodedice, you like the new style of those rectangles on start screen?
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18:13 hoodedice I just pass off as celeron on certain servers
18:13 john_minetest Hey, anybody up for a gamejam next month?
18:13 hoodedice inb4 MineCraft II lol
18:13 Krock lol
18:13 hoodedice Krock, Yes.
18:13 john_minetest I know somebody who is planning a gamejam but won't launch it if not enough people can be reached.
18:14 hoodedice One of the biggest reason I like 8.1 is because the search results in the start screen are actually readable
18:14 hoodedice And the squares actually fit the name
18:14 hoodedice Circle windows?
18:14 hoodedice meh
18:14 Krock Win 2k style ftw :3
18:14 hoodedice gamejam in MT?
18:14 khonkhortisan One of the reasons I don't like KDE's menu is I type in program<enter>, and the enter applies before the search for the program name is done, so it starts up a random program from the list that was there before.
18:15 hoodedice Actually, I'm coming directly from XP.
18:15 khonkhortisan A terminal runs the exact command you specify.
18:15 hoodedice Xubuntu was and is better than xp.
18:15 Krock hoodedice, horrible 13 daysleft until suport ends >:(
18:15 hoodedice But with 8.1 being light (not as much) and with better GFX support (Shh intel), I like 8.1 more than Xubuntu
18:16 hoodedice Yaay, one less OS for Minetest to support
18:17 hoodedice Seriously though, sup wrong witht the Mac builds?
18:17 john_minetest hoodedice: gamejam by some guy I know.
18:17 hoodedice gamejam in?
18:17 hoodedice just games?
18:17 hoodedice !g gamejam
18:17 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://globalgamejam.org/
18:18 hoodedice *create games?*
18:18 hoodedice lawl
18:18 * hoodedice thought it was *play games*
18:18 khonkhortisan On windows, everyone is administrator.
18:18 hoodedice How about mod jams?
18:18 hoodedice *cough* no.
18:18 hoodedice Mincrosoft is everyone's admin lol
18:19 Krock khonkhortisan, definitely false since windows xp
18:19 khonkhortisan Proof: REG add HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows​\CurrentVersion\Policies\System /v DisableTaskMgr /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
18:19 hoodedice They can lock you out, and you can't do anything about it=P
18:19 khonkhortisan Run that command as a normal user.
18:19 hoodedice lol nope
18:19 khonkhortisan You'll get the message "Task manager has been disabled by your administrator"
18:19 khonkhortisan Run it again with /d 0 to reenable.
18:19 Krock know advanced process explorers? they can not get turned off with that
18:19 hoodedice How about test mode?
18:19 hoodedice You can't enable that unless you run cmd as root
18:19 john_minetest Hey, as I said, I know somebody who might start a gamejam next month. Anybody interested?
18:20 hoodedice *cough*
18:20 hoodedice *admin
18:20 khonkhortisan This is one thing that bugs me. It calls me administrator through normal user actions.
18:20 hoodedice "cmd as root"
18:20 hoodedice Too much linux.
18:20 Krock What a fail when using the loved 3-key-press of CTRL ALT and DEL... "Task manager has been disabled by your administrator"
18:20 hoodedice khon, Windy 7?
18:21 hoodedice right click on start, click command prompt
18:21 hoodedice The one without (admin)
18:21 hoodedice And maybe do bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
18:21 john_minetest Lol, try deleting the IE folder as windows ADMIN.
18:21 hoodedice "bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS"
18:22 hoodedice without quotes
18:22 hoodedice See if that runs
18:22 hoodedice Or maybe you disabled that dimmed screen for admin permission thingy
18:24 * hoodedice wonders if he crashed the IRC server by flooding.
18:25 Krock not yet.
18:26 hoodedice I am doing a course on pseudocode
18:26 hoodedice And today I found the meaning of "hacky way of doing things"
18:26 khonkhortisan Your pseudocode has a syntax error at line 387.
18:26 hoodedice My pseudocode does not exceed 200 lines
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18:27 hoodedice Because comments are for n00bs
18:27 khonkhortisan That's the syntax error. :P
18:27 hoodedice And because I am practicing optimization along with learning how to code.
18:27 sydneyjdykstra Why do I get a error sometimes when I install mods?
18:28 hoodedice Nah, ERRORS in my code are less helpful than Minetest 0.4.5 lua errors
18:28 hoodedice sydneyjdykstra: What is the error?
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18:29 khonkhortisan Huh. Maybe it's no longer true. I made a new user account and my command didn't work.
18:30 hoodedice *cough*
18:30 hoodedice sydney left?
18:30 hoodedice !next
18:30 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
18:31 * Krock is testing if diffrent sticks for every type of tree get liked by players
18:31 khonkhortisan I still haven't figured out what to do with all the wood
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18:32 hoodedice Hello sydney, do you mind telling us what error you are getting?
18:32 Krock build nice things with wood
18:32 hoodedice Make them into planks
18:32 hoodedice Wood is useless.
18:33 sydney I am waiting for my brother to get of.( he is playing minetest)
18:33 hoodedice oh okay =)
18:34 hoodedice sydney, when your bro does get off, open debug.txt located in the 'bin' folder, press Ctrl + F, then search for ERROR. You'll get your error faster =)
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18:41 sydney here is the error: /usr/share/minetest/builtin/modstore.lua:320: attempt to index field "moddetails" (a nil Value)
18:43 iqualfragile sydney: is there any more detail?
18:43 iqualfragile and which version of minetest are you running?
18:44 sydney iqualfragile: No that is it. 4.9 is my version
18:44 hoodedice 0.4.9 downloaded from Minetest.net ?
18:45 sydney No,I added the ppa in ubuntu to get the latest version.Somebody in this forum told me to do that.
18:45 hoodedice oh okay, 0.4.9 git
18:45 hoodedice iqualfragile, does that error pop up for a mod without a description?
18:47 sydney hoodedice: It show up on most of the mods i try.Some do work though.
18:47 hoodedice sydney, did you use the mod store to download the mods?
18:47 hoodedice From within the game?
18:48 sydney hoodedice: The one built into minetest,yes.
18:48 hoodedice Can you tell me which mod you downloaded?
18:49 sydney hoodedice: it was call mob framework,for making animals.
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18:50 hoodedice hmm
18:51 hoodedice iqualfragile, my client fails to download the said mod.
18:51 hoodedice sydney, does the mod cause the game to not start? Does the mod work?
18:52 sydney hoodedice: The game starts fine;that eror shows up only when i try to install that mod.
18:52 twoelk quick workaround: download the mod from the forum and install it manually, as this seems to be a failure of the modstore function
18:53 hoodedice okay sydney, as far as I can see it, the mod fails to download for my clent
18:53 hoodedice *client
18:53 sydney hoodedice: And the mod never installs because of that error.
18:53 hoodedice Since the pice of code that your error message referenced is related to mod download failures,
18:53 hoodedice And it is fixed in my version
18:53 hoodedice I suggest you update your client, if not already the lates
18:53 sydney hoodedice: What version do you run?
18:53 hoodedice And what twoelk said
18:54 hoodedice Mine is 0.4.9-5fefc4b
18:54 sydney And only a handful of servers work to.
18:55 hoodedice sydney, 0.4.9 stable is as ironically unstable as can be. I think you need to update your client. Please tell me the characters after the 0.4.9-
18:55 twoelk the public server list should show 27 servers that are up at the moment
18:55 sydney hoodedice: How do I do that?
18:56 twoelk be sure you are not viewing your "favorites list"
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18:56 hoodedice Top right of the MT screen
18:56 hoodedice *Top left
18:56 hoodedice It says Minetest 0.4.9 -
18:57 sydney hoodedice: yes it says Minetest 0.4.9
18:57 hoodedice nothing after that?
18:57 sydney twoelk: i know,I have tried them all.
18:57 sydney hoodedice: no
18:58 hoodedice You are on stable =/
18:58 hoodedice Did you add a ppa for stable before you added one for the daily?
18:58 sydney hoodedice: Must be... Thats what they told me to do
18:59 hoodedice I suggest you uninstall Minetest and its ppa s completely, and then re-add the daily ppa, as I suspect there is a conflict
18:59 hoodedice You know how to uninstall packages on ubuntu?
18:59 sydney hoodedice: I use synaptics
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18:59 hoodedice How did you first install MT on ubuntu?
19:00 celeron55 where is the mod that implemented some kind of node that just recursively spread around making everything purple?
19:00 sydney hoodedice: synaptics,then removed it,added ppa's and installed 4.9
19:01 twoelk Taint?
19:01 celeron55 yes, found
19:01 hoodedice celeron55: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8747
19:01 hoodedice Dang, Ninja'd!
19:02 hoodedice okay sydney, did you install this PPA at all (ppa:minetestdevs/stable)
19:02 celeron55 i already had my hands ready to append the name to my google search 8)
19:02 hoodedice Or this one? (https://launchpad.net/~minete​stdevs/+archive/daily-builds)
19:02 hoodedice (ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds)
19:03 hoodedice You might want to check your Software Sources
19:03 hoodedice In settings
19:03 sydney hoodedice: My brother is still on,but I remember instaling the stable 1.
19:03 hoodedice Okay
19:03 hoodedice Now, when he gets off (if he does)
19:03 sydney How often do they come out with a daily build?
19:03 hoodedice Press the superkey
19:03 hoodedice "daily"
19:03 hoodedice =P
19:03 sfan5 sydney: pretty often
19:03 celeron55 WTFPL is really good for copypaste modmaking, you just grab it and use it, only checking that it indeed is under WTFPL 8)
19:03 sfan5 but not daily
19:04 hoodedice 1. Press the superkey to open dash
19:04 hoodedice 2. Type Terminal, open the Terminal Emulator
19:04 sydney hoodedice: who are you talking to?
19:05 hoodedice 3. Type 'sudo apt-get remove minetestC55'
19:05 hoodedice you =)
19:05 hoodedice Type that without quotes
19:05 hoodedice 4. Check if minetest has been uninstalled.
19:05 sydney oh,ok.( now I am waiting for him to get off)
19:05 hoodedice 2.5 Backup your worlds
19:05 hoodedice Forgot to say that =/
19:06 sydney How do I backup my worlds
19:06 twoelk celeron55: did ilovepetras.com say why they asked you wether you wanted to publish a Minetest CD? Was Globeminner so succesfull?
19:06 hoodedice Go to the worlds folder, copy paste that somewhere
19:06 hoodedice twoelk, see the reviews on Amazon =)
19:06 hoodedice *=(
19:06 sydney ok...........waiting
19:06 Jordach sydney, /home/<username>/.minetest/worlds
19:07 hoodedice After backing up worlds, removing minetestc55, go to Software Sources. Try searching it in the dash, or get to it via Settings.
19:07 sydney Everyone... I am switching computers,please repeat after I get on...
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19:08 hoodedice wb
19:08 hoodedice =)
19:08 sydneyJDykstra Hello,I'm back.
19:09 hoodedice Sydney, I'm writing instructions on a pastebin paste
19:09 sydneyJDykstra Ok,I've backup'ed the worlds.
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19:11 Niften hello
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19:12 sydneyJDykstra left #minetest
19:13 Krock I feel like I lost a mod somewhere in Modding General...
19:13 sydney joined #minetest
19:13 Krock Can't remember its name :3
19:14 sydney Anyone there?
19:14 Krock None online of those 114 people
19:14 Krock *113
19:14 john_minetest Yep. There is nobody here.
19:14 NekoGloop joined #minetest
19:14 sydney Har Har Har.
19:14 DeepGaze joined #minetest
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19:15 PenguinDad I'm not here? o.O
19:15 Krock True.
19:15 sydney How do i install minetest Daily builds?
19:16 sydney also what are the ppa's
19:16 john_minetest sydney: Are you on linux or windows?
19:17 sydneyJDykstra ubuntu
19:17 sydneyJDykstra I have to go,I'll talk when I get back
19:18 twoelk hoodedice seems to need some time to paste his instructions to a bin
19:18 Krock ~up 62.203.236.100
19:18 ShadowBot Krock: 62.203.236.100 port 30000 is up (218ms)
19:18 sfan5 Krock: Y U NO USE MinetestBot?
19:18 hoodedice http://pastebin.com/EZUQyRqv
19:18 hoodedice *cough*
19:18 Krock CUZ U NO ME GIVE KITTEHS
19:18 hoodedice Too late lol
19:18 * sfan5 gives Krock a kitten
19:18 * sfan5 gives Krock a kitten
19:18 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Krock's head
19:18 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Krock's head
19:19 Krock awsum.
19:19 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Krock
19:19 * hoodedice slaps sfan5 for fl00d
19:19 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Krock
19:19 * sfan5 flips hoodedice
19:19 twoelk hoodedice try your link
19:19 * hoodedice lands perfectly on feet
19:19 * Krock catches that flood of kittens
19:19 hoodedice twoelk, works
19:19 hoodedice -.-
19:19 hoodedice I ALWAYS TRY MY LINKS, K?!
19:19 Krock !up 62.203.236.100
19:19 MinetestBot 62.203.236.100:30000 is up (40ms)
19:19 twoelk hm so it seems, first try gave me spam alert
19:20 hoodedice pastebin IS spam lol
19:20 Krock !c (218+40)/2
19:20 MinetestBot 129
19:20 Krock ok
19:20 hoodedice !c 'hoodedice is awesome'
19:20 MinetestBot 'hoodedice is awesome'
19:20 hoodedice And that is MinetestBot's opinion, everyone
19:20 hoodedice <3 MinetestBot
19:20 MinetestBot <3 hoodedice
19:20 sfan5 hoodedice: no
19:20 Krock !c "hoodedice" == "awesome"
19:20 MinetestBot False
19:20 Krock :P
19:22 hoodedice !c 'hoodedice' > 'awesome'
19:22 MinetestBot True
19:22 hoodedice Booyah1
19:22 hoodedice I'm greater than awesome!
19:22 sfan5 lel
19:22 sfan5 !c 'kittens' > 'uberawesome'
19:22 MinetestBot False
19:22 sfan5 derp
19:22 hoodedice lol
19:22 hoodedice ASCII chart sfan
19:22 sfan5 !c 'kittens' > 'awesome'
19:22 MinetestBot True
19:23 PenguinDad !c 'PenguinDad' > 'hoodedice'
19:23 MinetestBot False
19:23 hoodedice !c 'Krock' > 'awesome'
19:23 MinetestBot False
19:23 sfan5 !c (ord('k'), ord('u'), ord(u'光'))
19:23 MinetestBot TypeError: ord() expected a character, but string of length 0 found
19:23 hoodedice =P
19:23 Krock :(
19:23 sfan5 wut
19:23 sfan5 !c (ord('k'), ord('u'), u'光')
19:23 MinetestBot (107, 117, u'')
19:23 sfan5 MinetestBot seems to hate unicode
19:24 sfan5 1 kitten for the person who can tell me what 光 means
19:24 Krock no idea... I see a square :3
19:24 hoodedice Light
19:24 hoodedice !
19:25 * sfan5 gives hoodedice a special kitten
19:25 sfan5 Krock: install some japanese fonts
19:25 hoodedice Krock: Use Windows 8.1
19:25 Krock Ye, japanese is needed for the life
19:25 * hoodedice flies away
19:25 Krock Same as Win 8.1
19:26 Krock Wikipedia: NT 6.2
19:26 Krock Windows 8 • Windows RT • Phone 8 • Windows Server 2012
19:27 Krock lulz.. windows 8 is windows 6.2
19:27 Topic for #minetest is now sfan5's bot test channel | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development channel: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
19:27 hoodedice *cough*
19:27 hoodedice rofl
19:28 Krock ok. gonna test thebot.
19:29 sfan5 PilzAdam: u wot m8?
19:29 hoodedice Indeed.
19:29 sfan5 !op
19:29 NakedFury joined #minetest
19:29 Krock !op
19:29 hoodedice No op to you son
19:29 * hoodedice kicks Krock
19:29 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.9 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development channel: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
19:29 sfan5 !deop
19:29 Krock :( MinetestBot
19:29 DeepGaze left #minetest
19:30 Krock </3 MinetestBot
19:30 hoodedice !c 'Krock' > 'hoodedice'
19:30 MinetestBot False
19:30 Krock !c 'Krock the king' > 'hoodedice'
19:30 MinetestBot False
19:30 Krock wut
19:30 hoodedice Krock, clue: ASCII table
19:30 sfan5 Krock: it compares ascii of the fist char not the length
19:30 sfan5 first*
19:30 Krock oh.
19:30 sfan5 "fist char" much badass very doge
19:30 hoodedice When you input a String it compares value of first character only
19:30 hoodedice *Ninja'd
19:31 Krock calculate all chars together and comprear then :3
19:31 hoodedice Krock, then you would
19:31 hoodedice !c 'K'+'r'+'o'+'c'+'k'
19:31 MinetestBot 'Krock'
19:31 hoodedice lolwut?
19:32 hoodedice that is useful.
19:32 hoodedice !c K+r+o+c+k
19:32 MinetestBot NameError: name 'K' is not defined
19:32 hoodedice meh.
19:33 hoodedice !c 'K'+'r'+'o'+'c'+'k' > 500
19:33 MinetestBot True
19:33 sfan5 !c sum(ord(c) for c in 'Krock')
19:33 MinetestBot 506
19:33 hoodedice ah yes, it works
19:33 Krock cool.
19:33 hoodedice sfan, how's that work?
19:33 hoodedice (ord(c)?
19:34 Krock c sum(ord(c) for c in '×××××')
19:34 Krock !c sum(ord(c) for c in '×××××')
19:34 MinetestBot 0
19:34 john_minetest Kilo romeo oscar charlie kilo
19:34 Krock ye, it doesn't like unicode
19:34 john_minetest NATO alphabet
19:34 rubenwardy b
19:34 john_minetest Just encode your stuff in nato alphabet.
19:35 hoodedice !c sin(45)
19:35 MinetestBot NameError: name 'sin' is not defined
19:35 hoodedice wut?
19:35 hoodedice WUT?
19:35 hoodedice !c sine(0)
19:35 MinetestBot NameError: name 'sine' is not defined
19:35 sfan5 !c math.sin(45)
19:35 MinetestBot 0.8509035245341184
19:35 hoodedice oh.
19:35 sfan5 also -> ##minetestbot
19:36 Krock omg thx john_minetest, I searched for that name last month :)
19:36 Krock ...or that "thing"
19:37 john_minetest I was once flying glider planes so i know the nato alphabet.
19:37 john_minetest :P
19:37 Krock hoh-TEL EK-oh LEE-mah LEE-mah OS-kah
19:40 rubenwardy new YouTube video! (Not Minetest, OpenTTD) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeO_CtQmbQ
19:40 Krock good old TTD
19:41 sfan5 !title
19:41 MinetestBot sfan5: Brandyce Lauren on Pinterest
19:42 Krock not really.
19:43 rubenwardy sfan5: "OpenTTD - Making Cyclotrons"
19:44 sfan5 MinetestBot: are you drunk?
19:44 sfan5 oh wai
19:44 sfan5 t
19:44 sfan5 it makes perfect sense
19:44 sfan5 she saw that link in another channel
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19:46 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
19:47 Jordach joined #minetest
19:47 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQpZT3GhDg
19:47 sfan5 !title
19:47 MinetestBot sfan5: Duke Ellington - It don&#39;t mean a thing (1943) - YouTube
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19:54 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY
19:57 hoodedice !title
19:57 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
19:57 hoodedice =O
19:57 hoodedice You evil, you >.<
19:57 Krock wtf?
19:57 werwerwer_ joined #minetest
19:58 Krock not rickroll.
19:58 hoodedice Don't believe you
19:58 hoodedice You can't get me, man
19:58 hoodedice !title
19:58 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
19:58 Krock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY
19:58 hoodedice See!
19:58 Krock !title
19:58 MinetestBot Krock: PRESTO Disney and Pixar Short Film - YouTube
19:58 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY
19:59 Krock !title
19:59 MinetestBot Krock: PRESTO Disney and Pixar Short Film - YouTube
19:59 Krock what the
19:59 hoodedice !title
19:59 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
19:59 hoodedice Liar.
19:59 rubenwardy ha
19:59 hoodedice You must've hacked MinetestBot
19:59 Krock Yeah
19:59 Krock what a bad boy
20:00 hoodedice MinetestBot!
20:00 MinetestBot hoodedice!
20:00 hoodedice It works alright, ok?
20:00 Krock MinetestBot!
20:00 MinetestBot Krock!
20:00 * sfan5 flips Krock
20:01 Krock ...
20:01 john_minetest Awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5GhIKuQL7I
20:01 hoodedice !title
20:02 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
20:02 Krock hahaha
20:02 hoodedice john_minetest: wtf?
20:02 Krock hoodedice hackd MT bot
20:03 sfan5 hoodedice: u bad hax0r
20:03 sfan5 hoodedice: I'm sueing you now
20:03 hoodedice lolwut?
20:03 Krock MT bot rickrolls you everytime...
20:03 hoodedice Do !title
20:03 sfan5 !title
20:03 MinetestBot sfan5: Google
20:03 sfan5 hm?
20:03 hoodedice ??
20:04 hoodedice Krock, run !title
20:04 Krock !title
20:04 MinetestBot Krock: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
20:04 Krock :3
20:04 hoodedice -.-
20:04 hoodedice Krock, See >.<
20:04 Krock Das Leben ist hart xD
20:05 * rubenwardy can't stop laughing
20:05 hoodedice Lemme try...
20:05 hoodedice !title
20:05 MinetestBot hoodedice: I&#39;m drunk! - YouTube
20:05 hoodedice wtf?
20:05 hoodedice sfan5! MTBot is drunk!
20:06 sfan5 nope
20:06 hoodedice checked drinkin.py?
20:06 sfan5 !c sum(math.sin(ord(c)) for c in 'notdrunkaaexxlr'), math.pi
20:06 MinetestBot (3.141585667537484, 3.141592653589793)
20:06 sfan5 see it's similar to pi
20:07 rubenwardy ...and GIMP is updated!
20:07 hoodedice hmm
20:07 hoodedice !title
20:07 MinetestBot hoodedice: Get Lost on Vimeo
20:07 Krock !title
20:07 sfan5 !title
20:07 MinetestBot Krock: Minetest
20:07 MinetestBot sfan5: Minetest
20:07 Krock Ok.
20:08 hoodedice !title
20:08 MinetestBot hoodedice: Minetest
20:09 rubenwardy !title
20:09 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Can't connect to http://www.hurr-durr.com/
20:09 rubenwardy Any recommendations for a FOSS video editor?
20:10 hoodedice !title
20:10 MinetestBot hoodedice: Stable Releases : “Minetest Developers” team
20:10 hoodedice hmm ...
20:10 hoodedice !title
20:10 MinetestBot hoodedice: Questions? Ask an expert for answers ASAP
20:11 hoodedice hm.....
20:11 Jordach rubenwardy, KDENLive or OpenShot
20:11 Jordach KDENLive actually working
20:11 rubenwardy !title
20:12 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Welcome to the Moms Help Organization!
20:12 Jordach while OpenShot stutters and doesn't like most formats
20:12 rubenwardy ok
20:12 harrison cinelerra for the true 1337
20:12 rubenwardy https://www.videolan.org/vlmc/ looks exciting, but will probably never be finished
20:13 harrison this web site can be modified by any VideoLAN developer with a SVN account.
20:13 hoodedice !title
20:13 MinetestBot hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
20:13 hoodedice rubenwardy: wtf?
20:13 harrison 2004 called, mr vlmc. they want their version control software back
20:14 rubenwardy !title
20:14 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Can't connect to http://hoodedice-is-stupid.com
20:14 rubenwardy oh dear
20:14 hoodedice -.-
20:14 hoodedice hoodedice.weebly.com
20:15 hoodedice http://hoodedice.weebly.com
20:15 hoodedice !title
20:15 MinetestBot hoodedice: Can't connect to http://hoodedice.weebly.com
20:15 * hoodedice is too lazy to publish his site
20:15 harrison The site you are looking for has not been published
20:15 rubenwardy I currently use Serif MoviePlus, but it is quite an old version. I got it through my old school.
20:15 Jordach push the fucking button
20:15 harrison Jordach: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
20:16 hoodedice Jordach: am too lazy to complete the site
20:16 Jordach harrison, once more and i'll kickban your ass
20:16 hoodedice sfan5! We need a !bully
20:16 Jordach because fucking spam
20:16 harrison you and what oper?
20:16 rubenwardy Bye all
20:16 rubenwardy !stfu hoodedice
20:16 MinetestBot hoodedice, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
20:16 rubenwardy ^ bit rude
20:16 Jordach wasn't fucking joking either
20:16 rubenwardy !help
20:16 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:16 hoodedice yup, looks good enough
20:17 Jordach hoodedice, trying out flightgear
20:17 sydneyJDykstra joined #minetest
20:17 hoodedice s it nice?
20:17 hoodedice *is
20:17 Jordach hoodedice, getting it, and using TerraSync
20:17 hoodedice Hello sydneyJDykstra!
20:17 sydneyJDykstra hoodedice: Did you ever get that list for me?
20:17 hoodedice Hope you enjoy it, Jordach =)
20:17 hoodedice Just after you left, sydney
20:17 hoodedice lol
20:17 hoodedice http://pastebin.com/EZUQyRqv
20:18 sydneyJDykstra Thank you!!
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20:18 hoodedice FG was what introduced me to FOSS =D
20:18 Jordach hoodedice, i only wanted the SR-71 blackbird
20:18 Jordach because Mach 3.1
20:19 sydneyJDykstra hoodedice: why did you copy it twice?
20:19 hoodedice I want to play it
20:19 hoodedice But it jitters like hell on my lappy =/
20:19 hoodedice copy what twice?
20:19 Jordach hoodedice, i'm not going to run out of room either https://cdn.mediacru.sh/SE6ynKjtwBwJ.png
20:19 hoodedice I think I will reinstall it in Windows and try again
20:19 hoodedice th2?
20:20 * hoodedice hugs Jordach
20:20 Jordach hoodedice, some ond windows game
20:20 Jordach old*
20:20 hoodedice It's not *old
20:20 hoodedice IT'S FREaKIN EPIC
20:20 hoodedice *sob*
20:20 Jordach hoodedice, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (i fucking remember that well!)
20:20 hoodedice I know *sob*
20:21 hoodedice Did you unlock the fail videos?
20:21 Jordach hoodedice, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/HW4JbEuDekPr.png
20:21 Jordach hoodedice, ues
20:21 Jordach yes
20:21 hoodedice XD
20:21 hoodedice 70 GB for FG?
20:21 hoodedice lolwut?
20:21 Jordach hoodedice, i remember getting >200,000 points on the second tournament
20:21 hoodedice yeah, once you get the hang of it, getting high scores become easy
20:22 Jordach (i've also got 1,000,000 on THUnderground 2)
20:22 hoodedice And once you undertans it is actually *button smashing* + *timing*
20:22 hoodedice bbl =/
20:22 Jordach hoodedice, nobody fucked with me on THUG2, because i mastered ground tricks
20:22 Jordach oh ffs
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20:23 Jordach phones suck rubenwardy|phone
20:24 Jordach (even on my 9'' tablet, IRC still sucks)
20:24 Jordach not even a keyboard helps
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20:25 rubenwardy|phone :P
20:25 rubenwardy|phone i can still type.
20:25 rubenwardy|phone well
20:26 rubenwardy|phone slide
20:27 Jordach swype is bullshit
20:27 sydneyJDykstra Now it says Minetest 0.4.9-dev,is that right?
20:27 Jordach not even typing
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20:30 iqualfragile sydneyJDykstra: was your problem resolved?
20:30 sydneyJDykstra hoodedice: I am testing it now.
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20:33 sydneyJDykstra Now it says ERROR:failed to download Mob Framework
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20:39 iqualfragile i can reproduce that, it still is downloadable from https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/mobf/
20:41 iqualfragile hmm… seems to be an error with minetest…
20:42 iqualfragile it tries to download the right file (https://forum.minetest.net/media/mod_vers/27​/2014-01-12-17-19/animals_modpack-2.3.6.zip) and gets 200 as response and still fails…
20:43 iqualfragile !tell sapier modstore in minetest 4.9 and git both have problems with the modstore
20:43 MinetestBot iqualfragile: I'll pass that on when sapier is around
20:44 iqualfragile !tell sapier 4.9 (from jessie) crashes on opening the ingame, git fails to download a clearly existing file, even has the right url
20:44 MinetestBot iqualfragile: yeah, yeah
20:44 sfan5 >minetest 4.9
20:44 iqualfragile sydneyJDykstra: ok, will be fixed shortly
20:44 sfan5 especially you should know better
20:45 iqualfragile !tell sapier s/4.9/0.4.9/g
20:45 MinetestBot iqualfragile: I'll pass that on when sapier is around
20:45 sydneyJDykstra Thanks for all your help,I downloaded it manually.
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20:46 sfan5 o/ Gambit
20:46 iqualfragile sfan5: not from the forums
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20:46 Jordach iqualfragile, i know
20:46 sfan5 iqualfragile: I know
20:46 iqualfragile rubenwardy|phone: get rid of that $hit
20:47 rubenwardy|phone huh?
20:48 iqualfragile uh, read iphone
20:49 rubenwardy android :P
20:49 john_minetest Lol, apple is so mainstream
20:49 john_minetest Every hipster uses it.
20:49 Jordach make hipsters kill themselves
20:50 Jordach fucking darwinisms the best thing to humanity since evolution
20:50 john_minetest They should use unique, homemade devices with sortix or better: an own OS.
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20:51 sfan5 john_minetest: put a mini-atx mainboard into a box and use it as phone
20:51 john_minetest That is about what I want to do.
20:51 sfan5 then after 1 week tell me how it was
20:51 john_minetest But as a laptop
20:51 sfan5[iPod] iqualfragile: this better?
20:51 john_minetest mini-atx board, screen, battery, aluminium suitcase.
20:52 sfan5 john_minetest: even better, design your own using a Freescale SoC
20:52 sfan5 up to quad core
20:52 sfan5 cortex-a9 IIRC
20:52 john_minetest nah, socs are too slow most of the time
20:52 sfan5 even with PCIe
20:52 sfan5 lolwut
20:52 sfan5 every laptop has a (kind of) SoC
20:52 john_minetest they got external RAM
20:53 sfan5 how does that make it faster?
20:53 john_minetest and sometimes other external stuff.
20:53 sfan5 the raspberry pi has external ram too
20:53 sfan5 it's just put directly above the actual SoC
20:53 john_minetest When I want to use the old version of minetest mapper, I have to use swap on most SoCs
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20:53 sfan5 also it would not be beneficial for Freescale to include ram into socs
20:54 john_minetest And I don't like ARM so much. Much simpler when I compile programs without a cross compiler on my main system.
20:54 sfan5 1) use ARM system as main system
20:54 sfan5 2) ???
20:55 sfan5 3) No need for cross-compilers
20:55 john_minetest Arm CPUs are not faaaaast enough!
20:55 sfan5 they can be fast
20:55 john_minetest My i7 is faster.
20:55 sfan5 compare(i7.cost, armcpu.cost)
20:55 sfan5 anyway
20:55 specing You did not pay $300 for your ARM CPU
20:56 sfan5 just wait until Freescale brings out an AArch64 cpu
20:56 john_minetest compare(i7.got, armcpu.got)
20:56 specing also ARM sucks
20:56 specing but not speed-wise
20:56 sfan5 they even give you a free documentation
20:56 specing support is a clusterfuck
20:56 specing sfan5: LOL
20:56 specing sfan5: LOL
20:56 specing sfan5: LOL
20:56 specing was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
20:56 sfan5 lol
20:56 john_minetest lol
20:56 PenguinDad lol
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20:57 specing Can you tell me of an ARM CPU that has a GPU with FOSS drivers?
20:57 sfan5 the cpu of the rpi
20:57 rubenwardy|phone slipped and pressed the exit button :(
20:57 sfan5 there is a contest
20:57 john_minetest lol
20:57 john_minetest The rpi SoC is non-free
20:58 specing indeed
20:58 sfan5 every fucking SoC is non-free
20:58 specing broadcom is just dropping some candy for you
20:58 john_minetest There are people who developed some alternative with free hardware.
20:58 sfan5 do you expect them to release their transistor layouts to you?
20:58 john_minetest yes.
20:59 * sfan5 rotates john_minetest 360 degrees and encrypts him with double rot13
20:59 john_minetest omg... double rot13...
20:59 iqualfragile for twice the security!
20:59 iqualfragile better be safe then sory
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21:00 john_minetest For HDD encryption I use rot 106496
21:00 sfan5 hey you thief
21:00 sfan5 I use that too
21:00 sfan5 but for my RAM
21:00 john_minetest Nah
21:00 PenguinDad ultimate security :)
21:00 sfan5 !c 1 >> 106496
21:00 MinetestBot 0
21:00 sfan5 !c 1 << 106496
21:00 MinetestBot 3093272861389481976086958249274674544190799296​1987938724027590849394327626431270196358185135​1135679488885866605110966953706294762560114375​5226110330975900250389688601660465280421913077​5849249342930293973717080917187364490797240272​5545746818050481756974838059516003856808344905​6242355848103737853252765365439168785233538942​3426781651890327086667088627182490589681022330​9862698794776010468369755099260568078141076437​187119897354608037314819746549703581435
21:00 sfan5 ah
21:00 sfan5 very effective
21:01 sfan5 !c struct.pack("!L", 123456789)
21:01 MinetestBot '\x07[\xcd\x15'
21:01 sfan5 ooh
21:01 john_minetest A wild minetest bot appears... use !c 1 << 106496 ... this was very effective!
21:01 * sfan5 throws Missingno. at joepie91
21:01 sfan5 oops
21:01 sfan5 john_minetest*
21:02 * specing smells arbitrary code execution by that bot
21:02 specing !c 1<< 1
21:02 MinetestBot 2
21:02 john_minetest Missing? NO!
21:02 john_minetest :P
21:02 specing !c print "lol"
21:02 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
21:02 john_minetest The secret pokemon
21:02 specing !c print ("lol")
21:02 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
21:02 specing hmm
21:02 specing oh well, carry on
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21:22 markveidemanis Hi
21:32 markveidemanis !c __print__("lol")
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21:32 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Sorry, but no double underscores.
21:33 markveidemanis woah
21:33 markveidemanis slow
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21:39 sapier https://gist.github.com/sapier/9745980 Link to latest android port as well as list of known issues, please test and add your findings to this list! thanks!
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21:58 celeron55 has someone used mobf for custom use cases?
21:59 celeron55 i'm wondering what is the simplest way to make a mob move towards a certain point on a map and do a special action once it reaches it
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22:00 celeron55 i would like to have something take care of the low-level details of movement and supply it information where it's supposed to be going
22:02 Sokomine celeron55: in my experience, mobf works fine in singleplayer. the movements of the mobs there are more convincing than those in simple mobs or other mob mods (at least to me)
22:03 Sokomine celeron55: the trouble was that mobf is problematic on servers. the only server who runs it successfully is mineguild.de - and that hardly has more than 2-3 players at a time
22:03 celeron55 what limits it?
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22:05 Sokomine best talk to vanessae and sapier - they know the details. the network protocol of mt did have problems in the past - players connecting and getting the media content of the models (several mb) caused so much lag the server became unplayable
22:06 Sokomine there are still reports about a) too much network traffic (talk to cheapie/vanessae about it) and b) occasional entity duplications
22:06 celeron55 i'm not going to use models, that's for sure
22:06 Sokomine why not? what do you intend to use instead?
22:06 celeron55 and this is not a persistent world, so duplication and small bugs isn't a huge issue
22:07 cheapie Yeah, VE-S lagged like crazy when mobs were installed.
22:07 celeron55 animated sprites, because i find then much more accessible
22:07 celeron55 them*
22:07 celeron55 and better looking
22:07 Sokomine hmm. that's a question of taste i think. to me, the 2d sprites are kind of creepy. mobf is closest to provide convincing animals
22:08 celeron55 creepy? all the better
22:08 Sokomine for player-like mobs, those sand- and dirtmonsters in simple mobs work pretty ok
22:08 celeron55 i'm not making a dollhouse
22:08 celeron55 but that's not the issue, stop talking about it
22:08 Sokomine ok. so the issue is movement?
22:08 celeron55 the issue is making mobs that behave specially without writing all movement details from scratch
22:09 Sokomine ah. mobf seems good for that. you can even select diffrent movement generators or write your own
22:09 celeron55 there is the path-based movement generator but it's hard to see how these really plug together
22:10 celeron55 for example, is there a working interface for supplying a target for it or is it somehow hardcoded to only accept targets from some kind of attack code
22:10 celeron55 ... and talking about attack code, i have no idea where that is
22:10 iqualfragile !tell sapier upd8 ur docs
22:11 john_minetest Is anybody working on better attatchment code right now?
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22:12 Sokomine i experimented a bit with mobf and tried to teach them to use furniture (find a chair and sit down). that did work to a degree; you can supply targets for the movement generator withhin lua
22:13 Sokomine positions/coordinates as targets work fine
22:13 rubenwardy|phone interesting. i guess you mean villagers, rather than sheep :P
22:13 rubenwardy|phone or cows
22:13 Sokomine yes, the villages are supposed to sit down :-)
22:14 Sokomine my newest mod adds a trader. unfortionately, that doesn't help celeron as it does not do any movement at all. it just stands there and awaits customers
22:14 john_minetest mobf is a bit too fat for me. PA's mobs aren't so clever but still it is better than buggy, slow mobf
22:15 rubenwardy|phone would be hilarious to get sheep to sit down and read a newspaper
22:15 Sokomine *g*
22:15 Sokomine provide the animation and they may ,-)
22:16 rubenwardy|phone heh. i can't animate at all :(
22:16 celeron55 john_minetest: they don't have any kind of pathfinding management code so it's useless for this use case
22:16 celeron55 that's the most tedious part
22:17 Exio4 sapier probably knows
22:17 Exio4 :P
22:17 celeron55 yes he does, but he isn't here now
22:18 john_minetest Hasn't pathfinding api been implemented yet
22:18 Sokomine hmm. did you take a look at npcf? afaik that's based on jordan4ibanez' movement code. the npc there manage to follow a player to a degree, and during a quick test, they didn't fell into holes but managed to reach me
22:18 rubenwardy|phone i haven't used mobf since... well, the last time i used it was when the animals and players were billboards.
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22:19 rubenwardy|phone john-minetest: it's in the API, but it doesn't actually work. at least when i tried it.
22:20 Sokomine npcf can be found here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7321
22:20 rubenwardy|phone bye all. sleep time.
22:21 Sokomine sleep well
22:21 rubenwardy|phone time to count sheep sitting reading newspapers.
22:21 rubenwardy|phone :P
22:21 Sokomine hope they got a good newspaper to read from :-)
22:23 celeron55 npcf doesn't seem to do any magic regarding to movement either
22:23 celeron55 mobf seems to be my only hope
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22:34 sydneyJDykstra When I upgrade my ubuntu version will i have to uninstall minetest before I do it?
22:36 sydneyJDykstra ?
22:41 celeron55 sydneyJDykstra: no, it will probably automatically uninstall minetest if the package becomes incompatible
22:42 sydneyJDykstra celeron55: ok thanks!!
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22:45 VanessaE celeron55: there is also PilzAdam's "simple mobs"
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22:46 VanessaE (that's the one I used, it's the lightest-weight one, but in its default state will add ~25-30 kB/sec of network bandwidth at the user's end, or so was the claim at the time)
22:47 celeron55 it was already discussed
22:47 VanessaE ok, I missed that part.
22:47 celeron55 00:17:10 < celeron55> john_minetest: they don't have any kind of pathfinding management code so it's useless for this  use case
22:47 celeron55 00:17:20 < celeron55> that's the most tedious part
22:48 hevygale https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1​0213548/minetest/2014-03-21_00002.jpg that's "Simple Mobs" for me, endless spawningand 1fps Oo
22:48 VanessaE oh right.  didn't read "PAs mobs" as anything special the first time.
22:48 VanessaE hevygale: EEEEEK
22:48 VanessaE it never did that on my box
22:49 celeron55 it's probably just what the germans call "normal difficulty"
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22:49 hevygale :D I coudn't even move :D
22:50 hevygale does that just happen for me, or is that commom behaviour?
22:51 celeron55 dunno, but something related to that was recently fixed
22:51 celeron55 (in the engine)
22:51 hevygale my sever version is about 2 weeks old,  head from github
22:51 celeron55 umm... maybe the fix broke things then
22:52 iqualfragile well, they are in reih und glied :D
22:53 hevygale this happend for all mob mods I tested so far, except modf
22:55 celeron55 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/db98ef6b4553e7b7cb99589740dc219902a90fbc
22:55 celeron55 the issue is probably this
22:55 celeron55 shout at sapier once he is back
22:56 celeron55 or just add an issue
22:56 hevygale I compiled on 6.3. that's 19 days ago, too
22:57 hevygale or wait :D
22:57 celeron55 that seems to have been made 2014-03-06 18:18:36 UTC
22:57 PilzAdam hevygale, its not supposed to be like that
22:57 hevygale sure it's not :D
22:58 PilzAdam I wonder how that sheep got into the desert
22:58 celeron55 what's probably happening is that mobs gets multiple ABM calls on the same block and as the object counts aren't always recalculated, it always sees that "oh, there's no objects here"
22:59 celeron55 there should be a mechanism that increases those counts when the ABM callback adds an entity
22:59 hevygale in the server appeared lots of messages like there are too many objects on a node and it willnow drop some
22:59 celeron55 or recalculates them
23:00 PilzAdam celeron55, also removal or moving away / into the block
23:00 celeron55 those are less important
23:00 VanessaE I wonder if that change is also what's causing the stack overflow on my Creative server when digging certain objects that are scanned/nodeupdate()'d inside an ABM (e.g. vines mod)
23:01 VanessaE hevygale: that's normal.  ignore that message and concentrate what's causing them to stack up
23:01 celeron55 that doesn't explain what actually is happening on the server but probably nott
23:01 celeron55 -t
23:02 celeron55 (as vines are nodes nad this is completely an object issue)
23:02 PilzAdam VanessaE, do you have any 3d torches mod on your server?
23:02 VanessaE true true
23:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: on the affected server, the only "3d torches" are just the nodebox-based ones that originally came from the 3dforniture mod.  nothing entity-based.
23:03 PilzAdam this has nothing to do with entities
23:03 VanessaE erm...
23:04 PilzAdam I just noticed a while ago that on some server there were 3d torches which always dropped when a nodeupate() call ran on them
23:04 PilzAdam just wanted to know what mod that is
23:04 VanessaE ooooohhhhh
23:04 VanessaE homedecor supplies them
23:04 VanessaE but I don't think they drop
23:04 VanessaE I think you are looking for one by... Blockmen maybe?
23:04 PilzAdam maybe
23:04 VanessaE wtf was it, I know the one you're thinking of
23:04 PilzAdam they look pretty MC like
23:04 VanessaE yeah
23:05 VanessaE uses a metric assload of really tiny nodeboxes
23:05 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6099
23:05 VanessaE bingo
23:05 VanessaE but not as "tiny" as I recalled.
23:05 PilzAdam yea, that its
23:05 PilzAdam *thats it
23:07 VanessaE I think in the case of Creative, the vines do it because whole columns of them are supposed to be able to drop or something
23:08 VanessaE I believe Sokomine was able to reproduce the bug on a clean singleplayer world with a copy of the errant tree and its vines via a worldedit savefile
23:09 Sokomine VanessaE: no, i don't think you're talking about the same torches. the ones in homedecor - which are based on the old 3dforniture mod - behave as they ought to. it's a new 3d torches mod that is still under development and sometimes has the problem pilzadam mentioned
23:09 Sokomine ah yes, the vines
23:09 VanessaE Sokomine: see above, PA wanted BlockMen's torch mod
23:10 Sokomine it's a combination of some of those vines beeing wall-mounted (wall in that case beeing leaves), there beeing so many vines in one area, and builtin calling all sourrounding nodes (3x3x3 cube) whenever one node is digged...so there's a huge cascade of vines that suddenly drop
23:11 Sokomine afaik there's at least one other 3dtorches mod around as well. might be more
23:11 PilzAdam does the vines mod use builtin's nodeupate()?
23:12 Sokomine so the problem on vanessas server is partly that of the mod and partly that of the engine/builtin (stack overflow errors are hard to follow/find the cause of them; perhaps a limit of affected nodes might help a lot there)
23:12 PilzAdam (this one: https://github.com/bas080/vines ?)
23:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: right mod, but no it doesn't call that function directly
23:12 Sokomine the vines mod has vines that grow on trees and are wallmounted
23:13 VanessaE init.lua:local vines_group = {attached_node=1,vines=1,snappy​=3,flammable=2,hanging_node=1}
23:13 VanessaE so the nodes are "attached_node"
23:13 VanessaE it's the engine doing it on it's own at dig
23:13 VanessaE or well, the digging code is.
23:14 Sokomine and as the trees are big and in this special case overgrown with these vines, there are a lot of nodes that suddenly call for updates
23:14 Megaf Hi everyone
23:15 Sokomine it's a bit like that landslide you can see on freeminer servers - dig one sand and..a lot happens
23:15 Sokomine (or may happen)
23:16 PilzAdam attached_node doesnt have any delay like falling_node
23:17 Sokomine perhaps a dealy might help?
23:19 PilzAdam it certainly does help with falling nodes
23:20 PilzAdam can you reproduce the error reliably?
23:21 PilzAdam if yes then please try this: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/9773601
23:21 Sokomine the problematic tree can be found here: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/​hobbies/minetest/invasionofthevines.mts
23:22 Sokomine it may not always crash
23:24 PilzAdam meh, I currently have no good setup to place .mts
23:25 Sokomine no worldedit installed?
23:25 PilzAdam only my own worldedit++
23:26 VanessaE so install it in any new world :P
23:33 blaise oh wow, 0.4.9 ?
23:33 blaise I feel like 0.4.1 was the last version I got to run
23:33 john_minetest cya
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23:33 VanessaE pfft
23:33 VanessaE 0.4.10 is coming soon...ish
23:34 blaise VanessaE: am I losing my mind or something?
23:34 Sokomine PilzAdam: as far as i can tell, it seems to work fine. i set the delay higher to visualize the effect
23:34 blaise I think I am..
23:34 blaise lol, I am..
23:34 Sokomine blaise: a lot has improved since 0.4.1 :-) get the newest dev version running and connect to a server :-)
23:34 blaise Installed versions:  0.4.9(07:13:42 PM 01/15/2014)
23:38 Eater4 Hello
23:40 celeron55 oh by the way this is pretty bad http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-​to-buy-oculus-rift-for-2-billion-2014-3
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23:41 celeron55 it seemed like oculus vr was generally remotely ethical but now it's going to be the opposite of anything good in this world
23:42 EvergreenTree http://minetest.net/contributors Needs to be updated
23:42 EvergreenTree Hi celeron55
23:42 celeron55 (in case anyone is interested in such modern gaming-oriented news; it seems like generally nobody here does)
23:43 Eater4 Lol
23:48 crazyR_ c55: just read that link, mark is a genius, now when i go doctor and show my ass, i dont need to feel embarrased.... yeah like thats gunna work, he's an idiot lol :D
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23:50 crazyR_ on a serius note, why does it feel like someone has pushed mark into buying it. its entirely out of context with what fb does and is
23:51 celeron55 dunno; maybe it speeds up the death of facebook which is too slow otherwise
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23:53 crazyR_ lol maybe. somehow i think il be dead before fb is. he'l just keep throwing money at it i suppose
23:53 celeron55 also, when you go to your doctor in VR, think of what kinds of targeted advertisements facebook will display there
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23:54 crazyR_ damn, now it makes sense lol
23:58 EvergreenTree Hi celeron55, hsven't seen you in a while
23:58 EvergreenTree *haven't
23:58 EvergreenTree on #minetest that is

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