IRC log for #minetest, 2014-03-25

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Time	Nick	Message
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00:04	Eater4	Hello
00:10	hoodedice	?
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00:19	Eater4	Ok I am done :)
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01:04	hoodedice	sfan5!
01:04	hoodedice	Jordach!
01:04	hoodedice	Whoever!
01:05	hoodedice	bah -.-
01:07	hoodedice	PilzAdam!
01:07	PilzAdam	wasssssssuuuuuuuup
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01:17	ShadowNinja	MinetestBot: Tell me message 1!
01:17	ShadowNinja	Hmmm.
01:17	ShadowNinja	sfan5: ^
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02:15	kahrl	yay for math! http://imgur.com/w2o0WFZ
02:15	Menche	:D
02:15	Menche	lol
02:15	kahrl	(names removed to protect the guilty)
02:15	Menche	(most of the names)
02:16	ShadowNinja	Hehe.
02:16	kahrl	hehe
02:19	Eater4	Shadow ninja did you see my message?
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02:41	PiIzAdam	Just so you all know, I'm leaving Minetest. So go ahead and ban me on the forums.
02:41	* Menche	can tell capital i from lowercase L
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03:00	VanessaE	nice fake.  :P
03:00	VanessaE	Some of us aren't stupid enough to use fonts that make I look like l.  PiIzAdam != PilzAdam
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03:37	ShadowNinja	Eater4: Yes, but I need a specific error message to help you fix it.
03:42	Eater4	1 sec
04:20	Eater4	It just says failure to run inti or master inti I think. I will have to get on my computer Tommorw. And share the pic w/ Onedrive
04:20	Eater4	.lua
04:21	Eater4	But it says it for every one I download off the internet
04:25	Eater4	Hm I want to be a irc op for #minetest isis.inchra.net
04:31	ShadowNinja	Eater4: A IRC op is a network operator.  But I don't think you're ready for either network or channel op access.
04:31	ShadowNinja	Eater4: You can copy and paste it from a terminal or debug.txt (use a pastebin like sprunge.us)
04:32	Eater4	Oh ok....when do u think I might be ready.... And k I will do that
04:34	ShadowNinja	Eater4: A while.  But I will add you then.  Please don't ask for special privileges.
04:38	Eater4	Ok....
04:38	Eater4	I have self-body control....
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07:44	celeron55	does there exist a hud map mod somewhere?
07:46	celeron55	okay one is called mapp
07:48	kahrl	there's this but it's not a mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8489
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09:06	JamesTait	Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Tolkien Reading Day! :-D
09:14	JamesTait	Hey john_minetest. :)
09:14	JamesTait	I'm still lurking. ;)
09:14	crazyR	morning
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10:32	hoodedice	sfan5, wtf?
10:32	hoodedice	The last shit I ever wanted to see was seeing this community split up like bacteria
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10:49	CWz	compiling issues are pretty common with freeminer lately
10:54	crazyR	hmm am i only seeing some messages on here or is there a private convo going on
10:57	diemartin	pretty quiet morning
11:01	crazyR	yep. tbh though i been busy all morning, damn world files are corrupt on my server. n last backup i have is 2 days old. was funny till the server crashed. half of a building was in mid air its like the chunks had randomly moved
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12:38	CWz	Greetings
12:38	sfan5	meoe
12:38	sfan5	meow*
12:38	sfan5	hi everyone
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12:40	hoodedice	PiIzAdam Just so you all know, I'm leaving Minetest. So go ahead and ban me on the forums.
12:40	hoodedice	(lolwut)
12:41	sfan5	wat
12:41	PenguinDad	what O_o
12:42	hoodedice	http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-03-25#i_3627739
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12:48	sfan5	hoodedice: seems legit
12:48	hoodedice	legit?
12:48	hoodedice	That l looks like a capital I
12:49	PenguinDad	not for me :P
12:50	sfan5	it is a capital i
12:50	enchilado	Definitely a capital I.
12:50	hoodedice	then?
12:50	enchilado	That is, a capital i, not a capital l.
12:50	hoodedice	ofc fake
12:51	sfan5	tw
12:52	sfan5	s/.*//
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12:52	hoodedice	?
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13:38	rubenwardy	Hi all
13:42	CWz	Hello]
13:47	rubenwardy	oh god: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134726#p134726
13:47	rubenwardy	!title
13:47	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: Post your mod requests/ideas here (Page 35) — Modding General — Minetest Forums
13:47	hoodedice	Another one?
13:49	hoodedice	Le me do the
13:49	hoodedice	~rtf\m
13:49	hoodedice	~rtfm
13:49	ShadowBot	Read the friendly manual. See http://dev.minetest.net, http://git.io/olBD2w, and http://git.io/5COZ7A.
13:49	hoodedice	Thank you, ShadowBot
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14:01	hoodedice	PilzAdam: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-03-25#i_3627739
14:01	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
14:01	rubenwardy	Hi!
14:01	hoodedice	Confirmed. PilzAdam is not leaving us.
14:01	hoodedice	*sob*
14:02	PilzAdam	if someone joins with my nick just wait 30 seconds
14:02	PilzAdam	has someone the IP of him?
14:02	hoodedice	lol
14:02	hoodedice	Not in the logs, have to ask VanessaE or Menche
14:04	sfan5	:-(
14:04	sfan5	whowas doesn't remember him
14:04	celeron55	whowas of freenode is utterly useless
14:04	celeron55	it never remembers anyone when you want it to
14:05	celeron55	but i guess it's good for privacy
14:05	sfan5	:O
14:05	sfan5	celer*n55 in in this channel
14:05	sfan5	this is new
14:05	sfan5	you used to not be here
14:05	sfan5	s/to not/not to/
14:05	hoodedice	The GM thingy broughthim here
14:05	hoodedice	=/
14:05	celeron55	no
14:06	hoodedice	Spring Break?
14:06	celeron55	i came here because of the first line i said after i came
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14:06	sfan5	<celer*n55> does there exist a hud map mod somewhere?
14:06	hoodedice	hmm.
14:06	hoodedice	There's that one that is an engine add-on
14:07	sfan5	was already said
14:08	celeron55	and all the answers to the question were already said; then i just didn't leave
14:08	sfan5	please don' leave, we like you :-)
14:08	sfan5	+t
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14:09	sfan5	what reason did you stop being in #minetest anyway?
14:09	sfan5	+for
14:09	hoodedice	The spamming?
14:09	hoodedice	And the obvious off-topic talk here
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14:20	CWz	what is a whowas
14:21	hoodedice	*whhois
14:21	hoodedice	**whois
14:21	PenguinDad	it is sort of /whois for the past
14:21	sfan5	hoodedice: there is also whowas
14:21	hoodedice	oh, yeah lol
14:21	CWz	what does it do?
14:22	PenguinDad	and there is who
14:22	sfan5	CWz: can show you the whois of someone who already left
14:22	celeron55	well at the moment /whowas Leoneof shows a result
14:22	celeron55	while that one left half an hour ago
14:23	celeron55	it seems like freenode probably stores them for 1h
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14:33	sfan5	>celeron, you may want to get rid of hoodedice before he gets you guys sued.
14:33	sfan5	lel
14:33	sfan5	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134747#p134747
14:33	* hoodedice	has been banned from the forums
14:33	hoodedice	wut?
14:33	hoodedice	lol
14:34	sfan5	hoodedice: stop saying false things
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14:40	VanessaE	all I got was 2ea5dde6gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.165.221.230
14:40	VanessaE	for the PilzAdam fake.
14:45	DeepGaze	just curiosity from someone who does not understand the subject:
14:45	DeepGaze	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134747#p134747
14:45	DeepGaze	what is happening
14:45	PenguinDad	john_minetest: it's a vpn
14:45	hoodedice	I gave his game bad ratings on WOT
14:46	hoodedice	https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/globeminner.com#view
14:46	hoodedice	Which in turn reduces Google based traffic to his site
14:46	hoodedice	He wants me to delete it
14:47	DeepGaze	not the issue with you: the issue with globalminner
14:47	hoodedice	They were initially selling MT for $15
14:48	DeepGaze	Why?
14:48	DeepGaze	does that breach the licence? and in what way
14:50	us`0gb	It only breaches the license if they don't include source code.
14:50	us`0gb	I'm not sure if they do or not.
14:52	rubenwardy	New profile picture! https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2051
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14:59	PilzAdam	DeepGaze, it doesnt violate the licence as far as we know, but its against the ideas of morality of some community members to sell stuff that you have done nothing for
14:59	PilzAdam	rubenwardy, there is no texture atlas since 0.4.6
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15:01	rubenwardy	It would be good in punbb if you could undelete posts, and then take away a user's privilege to delete posts. Just thinking.
15:01	rubenwardy	Not necessarily related to the current scenario
15:01	rubenwardy	ah
15:01	rubenwardy	thanks, PilzAdam, I didn't know that :P
15:03	rubenwardy	DeepGaze, this sums it up: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134419#p134419    https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134575#p134575
15:03	rubenwardy	:P
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15:14	celeron55	nothing sums it up; practically everybody talking in there is wrong
15:15	celeron55	and everyone thinks they are right
15:16	celeron55	it doesn't help the issue that the globeminer person is rather childish too in the way he gets stuck arguing with 15 year olds
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15:16	rubenwardy	Back XD
15:16	celeron55	it's just a farce
15:17	rubenwardy	true
15:17	rubenwardy	By sums up, i mean the "uneffical" side / argument thing
15:18	rubenwardy	It is probably for the best that it was deleted
15:19	rubenwardy	Nice word, farce.
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15:23	celeron55	hmm, who moved it to trash?
15:24	celeron55	oh no need to tell, there's the moderator log
15:25	rubenwardy	A general question: Where do you see Minetest in a year?
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15:26	rubenwardy	(to anyone)
15:26	hoodedice	5.0.0
15:26	sfan5	lolno
15:26	rubenwardy	lol
15:26	sfan5	more like 0.5.3
15:26	rubenwardy	!c 0.4.9/3
15:26	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:26	rubenwardy	!c 0.49/3
15:26	MinetestBot	0.16333333333333333
15:26	hoodedice	*0.5.0
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15:26	rubenwardy	!c 0.16333*4
15:26	MinetestBot	0.65332
15:27	hoodedice	RBA - At this rate, we won't hit 1.0 in the next century
15:27	rubenwardy	At the current rate of progress, 0.6.5
15:27	rubenwardy	apparently
15:27	rubenwardy	meh
15:27	rubenwardy	bad calculation
15:27	hoodedice	When he was told that next version is 0.4.10 and not 0.5.0
15:27	sfan5	!c "calculate"
15:27	MinetestBot	'calculate'
15:27	sfan5	<3 MinetestBot
15:27	MinetestBot	<3 sfan5
15:27	hoodedice	#strung
15:27	rubenwardy	ha
15:27	hoodedice	*Strng
15:27	hoodedice	**String
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15:30	sfan5	!c ''.join(chr(ord(t[0]) ^ ord(t[1])) for t in zip("String", '8\x1d\x06\x1d\x0b\t'))
15:30	MinetestBot	'kitten'
15:30	sfan5	^ rubenwardy
15:31	rubenwardy	oh god
15:31	rubenwardy	wow
15:31	hoodedice	Such string.
15:31	sfan5	I proved that kittens are in string
15:31	sfan5	s/kittens are/kitten is/
15:32	hoodedice	brb
15:33	rubenwardy	I hope that client side scripting will be a thing next year
15:34	celeron55	!c ''.join(x for x in xrange(0,2**31))
15:34	celeron55	does it work? 8)
15:34	CWz	I think the next year minetest will be on version 0.4.20
15:34	celeron55	best troll ever 5/5
15:34	sfan5	lol
15:35	CWz	what troll
15:35	sfan5	wat
15:35	celeron55	wait what, why did it even fail
15:35	sfan5	it just exited
15:35	sfan5	[LOG]: celeron55 calculated '''.join(x for x in xrange(0,2**31))'
15:35	sfan5	userbutterfly:~/mtbot$
15:35	sfan5	no error, nothing
15:35	celeron55	that was an erroneus statement, it would have needed str(x) instead of x to work
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15:36	PenguinDad	celeron55: you killed her
15:36	sfan5	[2413688.546168] Out of memory in UB 3425: OOM killed process 3682 (python) score 0 vm:647624kB, rss:122736kB, swap:229676kB
15:36	sfan5	this makes sense
15:36	celeron55	oh maybe it works in some version of python... whatever
15:37	sfan5	it only throws the error when the generator finished providing numbers
15:37	celeron55	ah
15:37	sfan5	try ''.join(x for x in xrange(31))
15:37	sfan5	try ''.join(x for x in xrange(31))
15:37	celeron55	on my laptop it just went fine
15:37	sfan5	(wtf?! xchat)
15:38	celeron55	oh wait... i fail too
15:38	celeron55	okay so it first generates and then converts, that makes sense, yes
15:38	sfan5	welp
15:38	sfan5	need more mem
15:38	sfan5	8G not enough
15:38	celeron55	i have 16, let's see
15:39	sfan5	!c struct.calcsize("!I")
15:39	MinetestBot	4
15:39	celeron55	12065 celeron+  20   0 19,604g 0,014t    348 R  48,2 92,3   0:46.39 python
15:39	celeron55	not gonna work
15:39	sfan5	!c struct.calcsize("!I") * int(0,2**31)
15:39	MinetestBot	OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
15:39	sfan5	!c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1.0L * int(0,2**31)
15:39	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
15:39	sfan5	!c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1L * int(0,2**31)
15:39	MinetestBot	OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
15:39	sfan5	I can't python any more :-(
15:40	celeron55	you get the error from int()
15:40	sfan5	ah
15:40	celeron55	it's one too large
15:40	sfan5	!c long
15:40	MinetestBot	<type 'long'>
15:40	celeron55	you need 2**31-1 8)
15:40	sfan5	!c 0,2**31
15:40	MinetestBot	(0, 2147483648)
15:40	sfan5	wat
15:41	sfan5	oh right
15:41	sfan5	, is for tuple and . is decimal point
15:41	sfan5	!c struct.calcsize("!I") * 1L * 2**31
15:41	MinetestBot	8589934592L
15:41	sfan5	!c 8 * 1L * 2**31 / 1024.0 / 1024.0 / 1024.0
15:41	MinetestBot	16.0
15:42	sfan5	seems like you need exactly 16gb ram
15:42	sfan5	hm
15:42	celeron55	python isn't that efficient
15:43	celeron55	there's probably at least one pointer and some extra bytes per value
15:43	sfan5	let's rewrite it in C
15:44	celeron55	yeah, let's make a bot that runs any C code you give to it
15:44	hoodedice	...
15:44	celeron55	sounds like a fine idea
15:44	hoodedice	What exactly are you guys trying to compute?
15:44	sfan5	hoodedice: numbers
15:44	celeron55	nothing useful
15:45	hoodedice	sfan5: I see that PilzAdam has been effecting you lately =)
15:45	celeron55	i just wanted to see all the numbers between 0 and 2^31 but the bot didn't let me :-/
15:46	sfan5	!py n = __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing && /tmp/thing", shell=True);n.write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf("Hello World!\n");}");n.read()
15:46	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
15:46	sfan5	oh
15:46	sfan5	would be too nice if that'd work
15:46	rubenwardy	!py print("hi")
15:47	rubenwardy	!py sys.exit(-1)
15:47	rubenwardy	Nope :P
15:48	hoodedice	Let's keep it simple
15:48	celeron55	!c open("/etc/passwd").read()
15:48	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'open' is not defined
15:48	celeron55	some kind of sandbox 8)
15:48	hoodedice	!py value = 10   print value
15:48	hoodedice	...
15:48	hoodedice	!py print value
15:48	sfan5	hoodedice: stop trying !py, only I can use it
15:48	hoodedice	MinetestBot!
15:48	MinetestBot	hoodedice!
15:48	rubenwardy	You probably need admin rights with MinetestBot
15:49	hoodedice	Yaay, I gets feedback
15:49	rubenwardy	3> MinetestBot
15:49	hoodedice	rubenwardy, ur doin its wrongs
15:49	PenguinDad	E> MinetestBot
15:49	rubenwardy	E>
15:49	rubenwardy	3>
15:49	rubenwardy	3<
15:49	rubenwardy	oh well
15:50	sfan5	rubenwardy: it's <3
15:50	rubenwardy	<3 MinetestBot
15:50	MinetestBot	<3 rubenwardy
15:50	hoodedice	<3 MinetestBot
15:50	MinetestBot	<3 hoodedice
15:50	rubenwardy	oh yeah
15:50	hoodedice	Ninjas, ninjas everywhere
15:50	MinetestBot	<3 john_minetest
15:51	hoodedice	sfan5, bot abuses
15:51	harrison	Does the government have a moon base? Does the government have a talking bear? Does the government have a cyborg army?
15:51	harrison	i am not a bear
15:51	hoodedice	MinetestBot, go away
15:51	harrison	i am a free mammal!
15:51	rubenwardy	!kick MinetestBot
15:51	hoodedice	*cough*
15:51	* hoodedice	kicks MinetestBot
15:51	hoodedice	john_minetest: Taliban
15:51	rubenwardy	EastAsia
15:51	hoodedice	*Pfft*
15:52	rubenwardy	* cough * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four
15:52	hoodedice	Could be Russia
15:52	* hoodedice	has been Ninja'd
15:52	hoodedice	Cyborgs could be Japanese
15:53	sfan5	!py v = 1
15:53	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
15:53	hoodedice	Everyone, what is your favourite MinetestBot moment?
15:54	sfan5	!py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54	MinetestBot	TypeError: popen() takes no keyword arguments (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
15:54	sfan5	cmon
15:54	sfan5	__import__("os").popen("gcc - -o /tmp/thing").write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54	sfan5	!pc __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54	sfan5	!py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing", shell=True).write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54	MinetestBot	TypeError: popen() takes no keyword arguments (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
15:54	hoodedice	*!py
15:54	sfan5	i give up
15:54	sfan5	too stupid to do things
15:54	sfan5	!py __import__("os").popen("gcc /dev/stdin -o /tmp/thing").write("#include <stdio.h>\nvoid main(){printf(\"Hello World!\n\");}")
15:54	hoodedice	Definitely not sfan5's favourite moment.
15:55	sfan5	oops
15:55	sfan5	MinetestBot!
15:55	MinetestBot	sfan5!
15:55	sfan5	*phew*
15:55	sfan5	!py __import__("os").popen("/tmp/thing").read()
15:55	MinetestBot	''
15:55	sfan5	:-(
15:55	hoodedice	thing is what?
15:55	hoodedice	Have you defined thing?
15:55	PilzAdam	I think we should stop abusing the bots now
15:55	sfan5	gcc was supposed to write there
15:56	* hoodedice	agrees with PilzAdam
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15:56	* PenguinDad	pets MinetestBot
15:56	rubenwardy	!rainbow <PilzAdam> I think we should stop abusing the bots now
15:56	MinetestBot	4<4P4i7l7z7A8d8a8m3>3 3I th6i6n6k we4 4s4h7o7u7l8d8 8s3t3o3p ab6u6s6ing 4t4h4e7 7b7o8t8s8 3n3o3w
15:56	hoodedice	*cough*
15:56	sfan5	!rainbow raaaaaaiiiinnnnboooooowww
15:56	MinetestBot	4r4a4a7a7a7a8a8i8i3i3i3nnnn6b6o6oooo4o4w4w7w
15:57	rubenwardy	Wooo!
15:57	hoodedice	I see the PilzAdam effect
15:57	Hirato	!rainbow This is pretty fabulous
15:57	MinetestBot	4T4h4i7s7 7i8s8 8p3r3e3tty 6f6a6bulo4u4s
15:57	hoodedice	*PilzAdam ripple effect
15:57	hoodedice	!ignore sfan5 Hirato rubenwardy
15:57	* rubenwardy	read "nipple effect"
15:57	* hoodedice	slaps rubenwardy
15:57	Hirato	:(
15:57	sfan5	!ignore hoodedice
15:57	MinetestBot	sfan5: 'hoodedice' added to ignore list.
15:57	sfan5	:D
15:57	hoodedice	Get your head out of the gutter, dude.
15:57	sfan5	!unignore hoodedice
15:57	MinetestBot	sfan5: 'hoodedice' removed from ignore list.
15:58	sfan5	<3 MinetestBot
15:58	MinetestBot	<3 sfan5
15:58	hoodedice	=)
15:58	Hirato	nipple ripple
15:58	hoodedice	Look at this pic of a bare nipple http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yDZ_9b2nHz0/TCvZym2eraI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/OXpFSSLpV2s/s1600/bottle%20nipple.jpg
15:58	sfan5	*regenerates irc stats*
15:58	rubenwardy	NO
15:58	celeron55	so, if someone is still wondering why i'm not usually here, maybe the answer becomes clear by following the discussion
15:58	hoodedice	^^
15:58	celeron55	this is the most random channel ever in existence
15:59	rubenwardy	lol
15:59	hoodedice	I told ya'll so
15:59	Hirato	awh, I love you too~!
15:59	rubenwardy	#minetest-offtopic is fun!
15:59	celeron55	i am on channels that don't even have any topic
15:59	celeron55	but they are more on-topic than this one
15:59	sfan5	but we don't have any !rainbows in #minete3st-dev
15:59	sfan5	-3
15:59	Hirato	I'm on plenty of those on quakenet :M
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16:00	sfan5	!rainbow hey there's Jordach
16:00	MinetestBot	4h4e4y7 7t7h8e8r8e3'3s3 Jor6d6a6ch
16:00	hoodedice	Jordach!
16:00	hoodedice	!tell Jordach hi!
16:00	MinetestBot	hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
16:00	hoodedice	*cough*
16:00	Jordach	wat
16:00	Jordach	wat
16:00	sfan5	MinetestBot!
16:00	MinetestBot	sfan5!
16:01	sfan5	are you broken again?
16:01	hoodedice	[11:55] <PilzAdam> I think we should stop abusing the bots now
16:01	rubenwardy	It would be hilarious if MinetestBot mimicked everything you say with !rainbow <msg>    Maybe for specific users.
16:01	hoodedice	Everyone pulls the PilzAdam on PilzAdam.
16:01	sfan5	rubenwardy: ofc I already have that function
16:01	sfan5	+ality
16:01	Hirato	hoodedice is actually a contraction of hoodeDice, or hooded Dice; a gang of 6 sided die rampaging around the neighborhood and somehow rolling 20's
16:01	rubenwardy	ha
16:01	hoodedice	ha.
16:02	sfan5	ok, IRC stats updated
16:02	hoodedice	Yaay
16:02	sfan5	( http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html for the uninformed)
16:02	hoodedice	"<sfan5> who the fuck hosts server on windows?"
16:02	sfan5	25NekoGloop357812991625611556yesterday"pilz you're the biggest troll here"
16:03	hoodedice	hehe
16:03	sfan5	16rubenwardy616018544231today"!rainbow <PilzAdam> I think we should stop abusing the bots now"
16:03	sfan5	this one too
16:03	rubenwardy	I like that
16:03	rubenwardy	wow! I was the last one to use "where"
16:03	DeepGaze	is there a teleport tutorial for immature mod makers
16:04	hoodedice	Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 42 times.
16:04	sfan5	I also patched pisg to ignore nicknames with 5 or less chars
16:04	sfan5	DeepGaze: lua_api.txt
16:04	rubenwardy	"There" is a nick
16:04	hoodedice	DeepGaze, just use minetest get players in radius
16:04	hoodedice	And then use minetest set pos
16:04	hoodedice	or player set pos
16:04	sfan5	or rather just minetest.get_player_by_name("deepgaze").setpos({x=1, y=2, z=3})
16:04	Hirato	well shit, I've spammed 1275 messages^W^W^W shared 1275 thoughts
16:04	hoodedice	Remember to quit the loop if you loop it
16:05	DeepGaze	i am meaning making a  three point teleporter
16:05	hoodedice	One of my biggest looping shenanigans - I forget to return.
16:05	hoodedice	Owait....
16:05	DeepGaze	a-b controlled by c
16:05	DeepGaze	all A,B andC baing blocks
16:05	hoodedice	bbl people
16:06	DeepGaze	*and C being
16:07	hoodedice	celeron55: I say #minetest-offtopic be made official
16:07	* PenguinDad	slaps Jordach for the stats
16:07	hoodedice	and #minetest be renamed to #minetest-support
16:08	* hoodedice	slaps PenguinDad for the reference
16:08	rubenwardy	Automatically redirect to #minetest to #minetest-offtopic :P
16:08	rubenwardy	It seems that is all they do
16:08	rubenwardy	na, keep it as it is
16:10	DeepGaze	my three point teleporter concept(not coded yet)
16:10	DeepGaze	player places A+C
16:10	DeepGaze	player connects A to C
16:10	DeepGaze	player tells A where to put B
16:10	DeepGaze	B saves the nodes identity of what it is replacing
16:10	DeepGaze	B force loads The chunk
16:10	DeepGaze	B connects to C
16:10	DeepGaze	Player hits A
16:10	DeepGaze	C disconnects from B
16:10	DeepGaze	B is destroyed and the node replaced
16:11	rubenwardy	"FOSS project, but currently poorly managed resulting in questionable forum and game content."    https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/forum.minetest.net
16:11	celeron55	"adult content" :D
16:12	celeron55	that's not allowed in rules and will definitely result in an instant ban
16:12	hoodedice	Nipples
16:12	hoodedice	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yDZ_9b2nHz0/TCvZym2eraI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/OXpFSSLpV2s/s1600/bottle%20nipple.jpg
16:12	rubenwardy	celeron55: he may mean swearing
16:12	kahrl	hexafraction... yes I remember that name https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6069
16:13	sfan5	!title
16:13	MinetestBot	sfan5: Recent DoS attacks on Minetest servers (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetest Forums
16:13	sfan5	!sfu *hexa*
16:13	MinetestBot	hexafraction 8New member 1 posts, registered on 2013-05-21 | id: 5715
16:13	celeron55	oh maybe that... well the adultness of that depends on the country
16:13	sfan5	ah
16:13	hoodedice	whoa...
16:13	celeron55	some seem to see it more bad than guns
16:13	celeron55	+as
16:14	* celeron55	is pointing over the atlantic
16:14	* hoodedice	not me!
16:15	PilzAdam	:-/ user ID 1337 is some random spammer
16:15	sfan5	https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/minetest.net
16:15	sfan5	>child safety: excellent
16:15	DeepGaze	* contemplating 42
16:15	rubenwardy	bye all#
16:15	DeepGaze	why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
16:16	hoodedice	*cough*
16:16	hoodedice	One look at Jordach, and we all know how *excellent* our child service is
16:16	hoodedice	*safety
16:17	DeepGaze	prefer sevice
16:17	sfan5	>MineTest.net Whois Record
16:17	sfan5	>MineTest
16:17	sfan5	it burns
16:17	hoodedice	Guys guys
16:17	hoodedice	Top site on WOT is mail.ru
16:17	hoodedice	tololololol
16:18	sfan5	I wonder how they calculate the seo score of 85%
16:18	celeron55	i like it how they have a big download button at the right side of their site
16:18	celeron55	DOWNLOAD (our addon)
16:18	sfan5	oh yeah
16:18	sfan5	that stuff is annoying
16:19	celeron55	it's a fact that most of the websites on the internet pay their bills by money given to them by completely clueless people that click links like that instead of the hidden real content
16:20	hoodedice	Okay guys, new dig
16:20	hoodedice	rarekin IS hexafraction
16:21	celeron55	lol
16:21	hoodedice	rarekin has this MT fork he calls mosstest
16:21	hoodedice	Look at this: https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/forum-mosstest.rhcloud.com/
16:21	celeron55	ilovepetras.com just contacted me by email, asking whether i want to sell minetest on CDs
16:22	celeron55	that's some marketing right there
16:24	celeron55	(that's the CD service that globeminer uses)
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16:38	CWz	what is the difference between using make -j2 and make -j4?
16:39	hoodedice	-j2 uses 1 core
16:39	hoodedice	-j4 uses three
16:40	hoodedice	If your PC has two cores you would use make -j3
16:40	PenguinDad	and what does -j1 mean then? :p
16:41	CWz	0 cores of course
16:41	hoodedice	Your code won't compile
16:41	hoodedice	=)
16:41	hoodedice	lololol.
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16:41	PenguinDad	hoodedice: I actually compile with -j1
16:41	hoodedice	I do with -j3
16:41	hoodedice	Dual core celeron
16:42	hoodedice	owait...
16:42	harrison	Dual stalk Celery
16:42	harrison	i think you could use -j9 then
16:42	hoodedice	*cough*
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16:42	harrison	due to hyperthreading
16:43	sfan5	hoodedice: -j2 uses 2 threads
16:43	sfan5	-j4 uses 4 threads
16:43	harrison	4 core i7 has 8 hypercores
16:44	PenguinDad	I prefer CPUs with only physical cores
16:44	* hoodedice	agrees.
16:44	* hoodedice	also loves his Celeron.
16:44	kahrl	I think the idea behind 1 more job than # of cores is to always have a potential job to fill CPU time when some other job is waiting on I/O
16:45	kahrl	dunno if it's worth it...
16:45	celeron55	it can just make the system unresponsive and possibly make bad usage of the CPU cache
16:47	hoodedice	BUt for compiling, I think faster is always better
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16:48	hoodedice	I think it was VanessaE who told me that -j(x) is x=number of cores + 1
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16:49	markveidemanis	Hi
16:49	PilzAdam	<hoodedice> -j2 uses 1 core
16:49	PilzAdam	<hoodedice> -j4 uses three
16:49	PilzAdam	lolwat
16:49	markveidemanis	http://pastebin.com/GYB0hyuL
16:49	hoodedice	*cough*
16:49	markveidemanis	I tried compiling inside an external EXT4 partition
16:49	hoodedice	[citation: VanessaE]
16:49	PilzAdam	markveidemanis, why do you come here every other day with the same error message?
16:50	markveidemanis	Because the solution does not change the output
16:50	sfan5	markveidemanis: try compiling a static binary in your normal linux distro
16:51	markveidemanis	Like what?
16:53	sfan5	???
16:54	PilzAdam	PenguinDad, you dont have to write -j1
16:54	celeron55	hoodedice: bad usage of the cache = a lot of slowdown
16:55	markveidemanis	I don't know what you mean by staatic library
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16:56	sfan5	markveidemanis: compile minetest, set CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS to -static
16:56	markveidemanis	-DCMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS=-static ?
16:57	sfan5	yes
16:57	celeron55	what
16:58	celeron55	that is clearly missing irrlicht headers
17:00	celeron55	don't try anything before making sure it's reading them
17:01	markveidemanis	Heres my cmake command:
17:01	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/8967844
17:01	sfan5	glibc won't let me link statically
17:01	sfan5	bah
17:01	sfan5	-DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=/home/mark/Downloads/irr
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17:01	sfan5	I don't even
17:01	sfan5	face meet desk
17:02	celeron55	markveidemanis: remove all that irrlicht stuff and use IRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR
17:03	Calinou	make -j$(grep "vendor" /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l)
17:03	Calinou	detects CPU threads
17:03	celeron55	which has to point to the extracted irrlicht directory (usually called something like irrlicht-1.x.x
17:03	Calinou	there is shorter, but I forgot it
17:03	Calinou	it's in my compile script, see the forum
17:03	sfan5	markveidemanis: did you download irrlicht for linux/compile it?
17:04	sfan5	or did you just dl the irrlicht source code?
17:05	celeron55	i am assuming markveidemanis is compiling a server
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17:05	celeron55	otherwise he would have it regularly installed
17:05	celeron55	or wait
17:05	celeron55	is this the fedora thing?
17:06	markveidemanis	I did not compile irrlicht
17:06	celeron55	use the rpmfusion repositories
17:06	sfan5	oh
17:06	sfan5	hm right
17:06	sfan5	you don't need the irrlicht lib for the server
17:07	markveidemanis	yep
17:07	celeron55	centos is all the s ame
17:07	celeron55	same*
17:07	markveidemanis	I read I still need the headers
17:07	celeron55	all of these have only a few official packages
17:07	celeron55	you're supposed to take into use rpmfusion or a similar one so that you get a reasonable number of packages available
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17:07	markveidemanis	I used EPEL
17:08	celeron55	but it doesn't have irrlicht?
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17:08	celeron55	rpmfusion has, or at least i have it installed as a package from somewhere on this fedora box
17:08	celeron55	and i only have official repos plus rpmfusion
17:09	celeron55	(and a couple of very specific ones)
17:12	markveidemanis	So i get rpmfusion and install irrlicht?
17:12	celeron55	irrlicht and irrlicht-devel
17:12	markveidemanis	ok
17:13	celeron55	wait
17:13	markveidemanis	Should that fix the errors?
17:13	celeron55	it seems like it is available in the official repositories
17:13	celeron55	https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/irrlicht-devel
17:13	celeron55	just install it
17:13	celeron55	wtf are you even doing
17:14	celeron55	this looks like the most trivial thing to do ever
17:14	markveidemanis	I missed that package
17:14	markveidemanis	Installed irrlicht though
17:19	markveidemanis	wheres the globeminner topic gone?
17:19	sfan5	markveidemanis: trash
17:19	markveidemanis	if I made a post in a topic that is deleted, do I keep my post number?
17:19	sfan5	yes
17:20	sfan5	you can even delete a post by you and you won't get -1 on posts
17:21	Calinou	<celeron55> use the rpmfusion repositories
17:21	markveidemanis	k
17:21	Calinou	you don't need RPMfusion for t hat...
17:21	markveidemanis	we know
17:21	Calinou	usual Fedora hater *cough*
17:21	markveidemanis	<celeron55> it seems like it is available in the official repositories
17:21	markveidemanis	I hate fedora
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17:22	markveidemanis	it is light but debian is better
17:22	sfan5	<markveidemanis> I hate fedora
17:22	sfan5	why do you have it then?
17:23	markveidemanis	I am compiling it for my server
17:23	markveidemanis	It'll be worth the stress though
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17:25	harrison	i recommend siduction which is debian unstable plus a few enhancements
17:25	* sfan5	throws Arch Linux at john_minetest
17:26	* Jordach	opens bag of Galaxy Minstrels
17:26	MinetestBot	Jordach: 03-25 16:00 UTC <hoodedice> hi!
17:28	celeron55	fedora is good if one wants a full-featured distro that is able to keep itself not broken
17:28	celeron55	i like it, mostly
17:28	Jordach	Windows is good if you can't understand Linux one bit
17:29	celeron55	i understand linux probably more than anyone here and i still hate archlinux, because it makes me do things that i couldn't care less doing
17:29	sfan5	how about LFS?
17:29	celeron55	that's the worst
17:30	celeron55	but i think everyone should use gentoo and arch as long as it takes for them to learn it all and then they naturally want to move to distros that automate the stuff
17:30	sfan5	I only use arch linux if I need a system with no shit preloaded
17:31	Jordach	celeron55, i'd be using linux right now - except that it's a brand new machine :P
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17:31	rubenwardy	Hi all!
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17:37	markveidemanis	Trying to make now...
17:40	markveidemanis	I got the same error
17:40	sfan5	markveidemanis: then something is still wrong
17:40	sfan5	try re-running cmake
17:41	markveidemanis	i defined IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR because it threw an error
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17:44	celeron55	run make clean and remove CMakeFiles and CMakeCache.txt
17:44	celeron55	then run cmake again without any irrlicht options
17:44	celeron55	then it will workj
17:44	celeron55	-j
17:45	markveidemanis	ok
17:45	markveidemanis	Trying...
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17:48	crazyR	does anyone know whats required in order to run minetestmapper.py aside from python & PIL
17:48	sfan5	crazyR: use my cpp mapper
17:48	sfan5	much faster
17:48	sfan5	http://github.com/sfan5/minetest-mapper-cpp
17:49	crazyR	i did try it but i got other errors. 1 min let me look up the errors i got
17:50	crazyR	logs gone, give me a few mins, il add it again and see what happens lol
17:51	rubenwardy	cpp is much better
17:51	sfan5	rubenwardy: do you like the autogenerates colors mine has
17:51	sfan5	?
17:51	celeron55	sfan5: >we cannot use ... char>> here because mingw-gcc is f**king retarded
17:52	celeron55	sfan5: use -std=c++0x and it will work
17:52	sfan5	well
17:52	celeron55	that > > stuff is actually in the standard
17:52	celeron55	(and was removed)
17:52	sfan5	why do gcc and clang have it working by default but mingw-gcc does not?
17:52	sfan5	s/gcc/g++/
17:53	celeron55	i don't know; what versions?
17:53	sfan5	the devs of libvpx broke vp9 again </unrelated>
17:54	sfan5	586-mingw32msvc-g++ (GCC) 4.2.1-sjlj (mingw32-2)
17:54	markveidemanis	Do Irrlicht arguments: http://pastie.org/8967980
17:55	sfan5	markveidemanis: your source tree is damaged
17:55	sfan5	extract it again
17:56	markveidemanis	minetest?
17:56	sfan5	yes
17:56	celeron55	oh 4.2 doesn't even support c++0x
17:57	celeron55	it's many years old
17:57	celeron55	i guess they enable that functionality by default in newer versions then
17:58	celeron55	4.3 would support it via -std=c++0x
17:58	sfan5	hm
17:58	sfan5	the ubuntu repo maintainers should really update
17:59	markveidemanis	Each time I get slightly better luck
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18:00	celeron55	mingw is lagging a lot behind anyway though
18:00	celeron55	their brand new version seems to be 4.4
18:01	celeron55	wait... this is a good point
18:01	celeron55	it means that not only visual studio 2010 is holding us in the old standard; also mingw is
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18:02	Jordach	celeron55, we won't have to target win xp soon
18:02	Jordach	(thank fuck)
18:03	Jordach	which means we can just target ME II
18:04	Jordach	otherwise known as vista :P
18:04	markveidemanis	Another error
18:04	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/8968009
18:05	Jordach	markveidemanis, just go back to windowsx
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18:05	celeron55	what version of irrlicht is that?
18:06	celeron55	i have 1.8.1 2.fc20 x86_64
18:06	markveidemanis	idk how to find out
18:06	markveidemanis	Except I have i386
18:07	celeron55	umm... well i used yum info irrlicht-devel
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18:07	crazyR	sfan5: thanks works like a charm.
18:07	markveidemanis	1.7.3
18:08	markveidemanis	bbl
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18:09	celeron55	what
18:09	celeron55	why do you have fedora EPEL 6?
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18:10	celeron55	or more like "use"
18:10	celeron55	anyway comment out the offending line in irrlichttypes.h
18:10	celeron55	this is an old and since fixed (by fedora) problem
18:10	Krock	Hello
18:11	hoodedice	Hi Krock =)
18:11	* hoodedice	uses Windows 8.1 and thinks it's the best Windows OS ever.
18:12	Krock	Saw c55 first time..should i better say "OMG hello omgomgomg celeron55, I'm biggest fan of you, gimme an autogramme" or say nothing? :3
18:12	hoodedice	(Apart from the crappy Audio Drivers from realtek. *hoodedice uses custom realtek drivers)
18:12	hoodedice	Krock, I don't even
18:13	Krock	hoodedice, you like the new style of those rectangles on start screen?
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18:13	hoodedice	I just pass off as celeron on certain servers
18:13	hoodedice	inb4 MineCraft II lol
18:13	Krock	lol
18:13	hoodedice	Krock, Yes.
18:14	hoodedice	One of the biggest reason I like 8.1 is because the search results in the start screen are actually readable
18:14	hoodedice	And the squares actually fit the name
18:14	hoodedice	Circle windows?
18:14	hoodedice	meh
18:14	Krock	Win 2k style ftw :3
18:14	hoodedice	gamejam in MT?
18:14	khonkhortisan	One of the reasons I don't like KDE's menu is I type in program<enter>, and the enter applies before the search for the program name is done, so it starts up a random program from the list that was there before.
18:15	hoodedice	Actually, I'm coming directly from XP.
18:15	khonkhortisan	A terminal runs the exact command you specify.
18:15	hoodedice	Xubuntu was and is better than xp.
18:15	Krock	hoodedice, horrible 13 daysleft until suport ends >:(
18:15	hoodedice	But with 8.1 being light (not as much) and with better GFX support (Shh intel), I like 8.1 more than Xubuntu
18:16	hoodedice	Yaay, one less OS for Minetest to support
18:17	hoodedice	Seriously though, sup wrong witht the Mac builds?
18:17	hoodedice	gamejam in?
18:17	hoodedice	just games?
18:17	hoodedice	!g gamejam
18:17	MinetestBot	hoodedice: http://globalgamejam.org/
18:18	hoodedice	*create games?*
18:18	hoodedice	lawl
18:18	* hoodedice	thought it was *play games*
18:18	khonkhortisan	On windows, everyone is administrator.
18:18	hoodedice	How about mod jams?
18:18	hoodedice	*cough* no.
18:18	hoodedice	Mincrosoft is everyone's admin lol
18:19	Krock	khonkhortisan, definitely false since windows xp
18:19	khonkhortisan	Proof: REG add HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System /v DisableTaskMgr /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
18:19	hoodedice	They can lock you out, and you can't do anything about it=P
18:19	khonkhortisan	Run that command as a normal user.
18:19	hoodedice	lol nope
18:19	khonkhortisan	You'll get the message "Task manager has been disabled by your administrator"
18:19	khonkhortisan	Run it again with /d 0 to reenable.
18:19	Krock	know advanced process explorers? they can not get turned off with that
18:19	hoodedice	How about test mode?
18:19	hoodedice	You can't enable that unless you run cmd as root
18:20	hoodedice	*cough*
18:20	hoodedice	*admin
18:20	khonkhortisan	This is one thing that bugs me. It calls me administrator through normal user actions.
18:20	hoodedice	"cmd as root"
18:20	hoodedice	Too much linux.
18:20	Krock	What a fail when using the loved 3-key-press of CTRL ALT and DEL... "Task manager has been disabled by your administrator"
18:20	hoodedice	khon, Windy 7?
18:21	hoodedice	right click on start, click command prompt
18:21	hoodedice	The one without (admin)
18:21	hoodedice	And maybe do bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
18:21	hoodedice	"bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS"
18:22	hoodedice	without quotes
18:22	hoodedice	See if that runs
18:22	hoodedice	Or maybe you disabled that dimmed screen for admin permission thingy
18:24	* hoodedice	wonders if he crashed the IRC server by flooding.
18:25	Krock	not yet.
18:26	hoodedice	I am doing a course on pseudocode
18:26	hoodedice	And today I found the meaning of "hacky way of doing things"
18:26	khonkhortisan	Your pseudocode has a syntax error at line 387.
18:26	hoodedice	My pseudocode does not exceed 200 lines
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18:27	hoodedice	Because comments are for n00bs
18:27	khonkhortisan	That's the syntax error. :P
18:27	hoodedice	And because I am practicing optimization along with learning how to code.
18:27	sydneyjdykstra	Why do I get a error sometimes when I install mods?
18:28	hoodedice	Nah, ERRORS in my code are less helpful than Minetest 0.4.5 lua errors
18:28	hoodedice	sydneyjdykstra: What is the error?
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18:29	khonkhortisan	Huh. Maybe it's no longer true. I made a new user account and my command didn't work.
18:30	hoodedice	*cough*
18:30	hoodedice	sydney left?
18:30	hoodedice	!next
18:30	MinetestBot	Another satisfied customer. Next!
18:31	* Krock	is testing if diffrent sticks for every type of tree get liked by players
18:31	khonkhortisan	I still haven't figured out what to do with all the wood
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18:32	hoodedice	Hello sydney, do you mind telling us what error you are getting?
18:32	Krock	build nice things with wood
18:32	hoodedice	Make them into planks
18:32	hoodedice	Wood is useless.
18:33	sydney	I am waiting for my brother to get of.( he is playing minetest)
18:33	hoodedice	oh okay =)
18:34	hoodedice	sydney, when your bro does get off, open debug.txt located in the 'bin' folder, press Ctrl + F, then search for ERROR. You'll get your error faster =)
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18:41	sydney	here is the error: /usr/share/minetest/builtin/modstore.lua:320: attempt to index field "moddetails" (a nil Value)
18:43	iqualfragile	sydney: is there any more detail?
18:43	iqualfragile	and which version of minetest are you running?
18:44	sydney	iqualfragile: No that is it. 4.9 is my version
18:44	hoodedice	0.4.9 downloaded from Minetest.net ?
18:45	sydney	No,I added the ppa in ubuntu to get the latest version.Somebody in this forum told me to do that.
18:45	hoodedice	oh okay, 0.4.9 git
18:45	hoodedice	iqualfragile, does that error pop up for a mod without a description?
18:47	sydney	hoodedice: It show up on most of the mods i try.Some do work though.
18:47	hoodedice	sydney, did you use the mod store to download the mods?
18:47	hoodedice	From within the game?
18:48	sydney	hoodedice: The one built into minetest,yes.
18:48	hoodedice	Can you tell me which mod you downloaded?
18:49	sydney	hoodedice: it was call mob framework,for making animals.
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18:50	hoodedice	hmm
18:51	hoodedice	iqualfragile, my client fails to download the said mod.
18:51	hoodedice	sydney, does the mod cause the game to not start? Does the mod work?
18:52	sydney	hoodedice: The game starts fine;that eror shows up only when i try to install that mod.
18:52	twoelk	quick workaround: download the mod from the forum and install it manually, as this seems to be a failure of the modstore function
18:53	hoodedice	okay sydney, as far as I can see it, the mod fails to download for my clent
18:53	hoodedice	*client
18:53	sydney	hoodedice: And the mod never installs because of that error.
18:53	hoodedice	Since the pice of code that your error message referenced is related to mod download failures,
18:53	hoodedice	And it is fixed in my version
18:53	hoodedice	I suggest you update your client, if not already the lates
18:53	sydney	hoodedice: What version do you run?
18:53	hoodedice	And what twoelk said
18:54	hoodedice	Mine is 0.4.9-5fefc4b
18:54	sydney	And only a handful of servers work to.
18:55	hoodedice	sydney, 0.4.9 stable is as ironically unstable as can be. I think you need to update your client. Please tell me the characters after the 0.4.9-
18:55	twoelk	the public server list should show 27 servers that are up at the moment
18:55	sydney	hoodedice: How do I do that?
18:56	twoelk	be sure you are not viewing your "favorites list"
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18:56	hoodedice	Top right of the MT screen
18:56	hoodedice	*Top left
18:56	hoodedice	It says Minetest 0.4.9 -
18:57	sydney	hoodedice: yes it says Minetest 0.4.9
18:57	hoodedice	nothing after that?
18:57	sydney	twoelk: i know,I have tried them all.
18:57	sydney	hoodedice: no
18:58	hoodedice	You are on stable =/
18:58	hoodedice	Did you add a ppa for stable before you added one for the daily?
18:58	sydney	hoodedice: Must be... Thats what they told me to do
18:59	hoodedice	I suggest you uninstall Minetest and its ppa s completely, and then re-add the daily ppa, as I suspect there is a conflict
18:59	hoodedice	You know how to uninstall packages on ubuntu?
18:59	sydney	hoodedice: I use synaptics
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18:59	hoodedice	How did you first install MT on ubuntu?
19:00	celeron55	where is the mod that implemented some kind of node that just recursively spread around making everything purple?
19:00	sydney	hoodedice: synaptics,then removed it,added ppa's and installed 4.9
19:01	twoelk	Taint?
19:01	celeron55	yes, found
19:01	hoodedice	celeron55: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8747
19:01	hoodedice	Dang, Ninja'd!
19:02	hoodedice	okay sydney, did you install this PPA at all (ppa:minetestdevs/stable)
19:02	celeron55	i already had my hands ready to append the name to my google search 8)
19:02	hoodedice	Or this one? (https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds)
19:02	hoodedice	(ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds)
19:03	hoodedice	You might want to check your Software Sources
19:03	hoodedice	In settings
19:03	sydney	hoodedice: My brother is still on,but I remember instaling the stable 1.
19:03	hoodedice	Okay
19:03	hoodedice	Now, when he gets off (if he does)
19:03	sydney	How often do they come out with a daily build?
19:03	hoodedice	Press the superkey
19:03	hoodedice	"daily"
19:03	hoodedice	=P
19:03	sfan5	sydney: pretty often
19:03	celeron55	WTFPL is really good for copypaste modmaking, you just grab it and use it, only checking that it indeed is under WTFPL 8)
19:03	sfan5	but not daily
19:04	hoodedice	1. Press the superkey to open dash
19:04	hoodedice	2. Type Terminal, open the Terminal Emulator
19:04	sydney	hoodedice: who are you talking to?
19:05	hoodedice	3. Type 'sudo apt-get remove minetestC55'
19:05	hoodedice	you =)
19:05	hoodedice	Type that without quotes
19:05	hoodedice	4. Check if minetest has been uninstalled.
19:05	sydney	oh,ok.( now I am waiting for him to get off)
19:05	hoodedice	2.5 Backup your worlds
19:05	hoodedice	Forgot to say that =/
19:06	sydney	How do I backup my worlds
19:06	twoelk	celeron55: did ilovepetras.com say why they asked you wether you wanted to publish a Minetest CD? Was Globeminner so succesfull?
19:06	hoodedice	Go to the worlds folder, copy paste that somewhere
19:06	hoodedice	twoelk, see the reviews on Amazon =)
19:06	hoodedice	*=(
19:06	sydney	ok...........waiting
19:06	Jordach	sydney, /home/<username>/.minetest/worlds
19:07	hoodedice	After backing up worlds, removing minetestc55, go to Software Sources. Try searching it in the dash, or get to it via Settings.
19:07	sydney	Everyone... I am switching computers,please repeat after I get on...
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19:08	hoodedice	wb
19:08	hoodedice	=)
19:08	sydneyJDykstra	Hello,I'm back.
19:09	hoodedice	Sydney, I'm writing instructions on a pastebin paste
19:09	sydneyJDykstra	Ok,I've backup'ed the worlds.
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19:11	Niften	hello
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19:13	Krock	I feel like I lost a mod somewhere in Modding General...
19:13		sydney joined #minetest
19:13	Krock	Can't remember its name :3
19:14	sydney	Anyone there?
19:14	Krock	None online of those 114 people
19:14	Krock	*113
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19:14	sydney	Har Har Har.
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19:15	PenguinDad	I'm not here? o.O
19:15	Krock	True.
19:15	sydney	How do i install minetest Daily builds?
19:16	sydney	also what are the ppa's
19:17	sydneyJDykstra	ubuntu
19:17	sydneyJDykstra	I have to go,I'll talk when I get back
19:18	twoelk	hoodedice seems to need some time to paste his instructions to a bin
19:18	Krock	~up 62.203.236.100
19:18	ShadowBot	Krock: 62.203.236.100 port 30000 is up (218ms)
19:18	sfan5	Krock: Y U NO USE MinetestBot?
19:18	hoodedice	http://pastebin.com/EZUQyRqv
19:18	hoodedice	*cough*
19:18	Krock	CUZ U NO ME GIVE KITTEHS
19:18	hoodedice	Too late lol
19:18	* sfan5	gives Krock a kitten
19:18	* sfan5	gives Krock a kitten
19:18	* sfan5	puts a kitten on Krock's head
19:18	* sfan5	puts a kitten on Krock's head
19:19	Krock	awsum.
19:19	* sfan5	throws a kitten at Krock
19:19	* hoodedice	slaps sfan5 for fl00d
19:19	* sfan5	throws a kitten at Krock
19:19	* sfan5	flips hoodedice
19:19	twoelk	hoodedice try your link
19:19	* hoodedice	lands perfectly on feet
19:19	* Krock	catches that flood of kittens
19:19	hoodedice	twoelk, works
19:19	hoodedice	-.-
19:19	hoodedice	I ALWAYS TRY MY LINKS, K?!
19:19	Krock	!up 62.203.236.100
19:19	MinetestBot	62.203.236.100:30000 is up (40ms)
19:19	twoelk	hm so it seems, first try gave me spam alert
19:20	hoodedice	pastebin IS spam lol
19:20	Krock	!c (218+40)/2
19:20	MinetestBot	129
19:20	Krock	ok
19:20	hoodedice	!c 'hoodedice is awesome'
19:20	MinetestBot	'hoodedice is awesome'
19:20	hoodedice	And that is MinetestBot's opinion, everyone
19:20	hoodedice	<3 MinetestBot
19:20	MinetestBot	<3 hoodedice
19:20	sfan5	hoodedice: no
19:20	Krock	!c "hoodedice" == "awesome"
19:20	MinetestBot	False
19:20	Krock	:P
19:22	hoodedice	!c 'hoodedice' > 'awesome'
19:22	MinetestBot	True
19:22	hoodedice	Booyah1
19:22	hoodedice	I'm greater than awesome!
19:22	sfan5	lel
19:22	sfan5	!c 'kittens' > 'uberawesome'
19:22	MinetestBot	False
19:22	sfan5	derp
19:22	hoodedice	lol
19:22	hoodedice	ASCII chart sfan
19:22	sfan5	!c 'kittens' > 'awesome'
19:22	MinetestBot	True
19:23	PenguinDad	!c 'PenguinDad' > 'hoodedice'
19:23	MinetestBot	False
19:23	hoodedice	!c 'Krock' > 'awesome'
19:23	MinetestBot	False
19:23	sfan5	!c (ord('k'), ord('u'), ord(u'å…‰'))
19:23	MinetestBot	TypeError: ord() expected a character, but string of length 0 found
19:23	hoodedice	=P
19:23	Krock	:(
19:23	sfan5	wut
19:23	sfan5	!c (ord('k'), ord('u'), u'å…‰')
19:23	MinetestBot	(107, 117, u'')
19:23	sfan5	MinetestBot seems to hate unicode
19:24	sfan5	1 kitten for the person who can tell me what å…‰ means
19:24	Krock	no idea... I see a square :3
19:24	hoodedice	Light
19:24	hoodedice	!
19:25	* sfan5	gives hoodedice a special kitten
19:25	sfan5	Krock: install some japanese fonts
19:25	hoodedice	Krock: Use Windows 8.1
19:25	Krock	Ye, japanese is needed for the life
19:25	* hoodedice	flies away
19:25	Krock	Same as Win 8.1
19:26	Krock	Wikipedia: NT 6.2
19:26	Krock	Windows 8 • Windows RT • Phone 8 • Windows Server 2012
19:27	Krock	lulz.. windows 8 is windows 6.2
19:27		Topic for #minetest is now sfan5's bot test channel | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development channel: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
19:27	hoodedice	*cough*
19:27	hoodedice	rofl
19:28	Krock	ok. gonna test thebot.
19:29	sfan5	PilzAdam: u wot m8?
19:29	hoodedice	Indeed.
19:29	sfan5	!op
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19:29	Krock	!op
19:29	hoodedice	No op to you son
19:29	* hoodedice	kicks Krock
19:29		Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.9 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development channel: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
19:29	sfan5	!deop
19:29	Krock	:( MinetestBot
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19:30	Krock	</3 MinetestBot
19:30	hoodedice	!c 'Krock' > 'hoodedice'
19:30	MinetestBot	False
19:30	Krock	!c 'Krock the king' > 'hoodedice'
19:30	MinetestBot	False
19:30	Krock	wut
19:30	hoodedice	Krock, clue: ASCII table
19:30	sfan5	Krock: it compares ascii of the fist char not the length
19:30	sfan5	first*
19:30	Krock	oh.
19:30	sfan5	"fist char" much badass very doge
19:30	hoodedice	When you input a String it compares value of first character only
19:30	hoodedice	*Ninja'd
19:31	Krock	calculate all chars together and comprear then :3
19:31	hoodedice	Krock, then you would
19:31	hoodedice	!c 'K'+'r'+'o'+'c'+'k'
19:31	MinetestBot	'Krock'
19:31	hoodedice	lolwut?
19:32	hoodedice	that is useful.
19:32	hoodedice	!c K+r+o+c+k
19:32	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'K' is not defined
19:32	hoodedice	meh.
19:33	hoodedice	!c 'K'+'r'+'o'+'c'+'k' > 500
19:33	MinetestBot	True
19:33	sfan5	!c sum(ord(c) for c in 'Krock')
19:33	MinetestBot	506
19:33	hoodedice	ah yes, it works
19:33	Krock	cool.
19:33	hoodedice	sfan, how's that work?
19:33	hoodedice	(ord(c)?
19:34	Krock	c sum(ord(c) for c in '×××××')
19:34	Krock	!c sum(ord(c) for c in '×××××')
19:34	MinetestBot	0
19:34	Krock	ye, it doesn't like unicode
19:34	rubenwardy	b
19:35	hoodedice	!c sin(45)
19:35	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'sin' is not defined
19:35	hoodedice	wut?
19:35	hoodedice	WUT?
19:35	hoodedice	!c sine(0)
19:35	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'sine' is not defined
19:35	sfan5	!c math.sin(45)
19:35	MinetestBot	0.8509035245341184
19:35	hoodedice	oh.
19:35	sfan5	also -> ##minetestbot
19:36	Krock	omg thx john_minetest, I searched for that name last month :)
19:36	Krock	...or that "thing"
19:37	Krock	hoh-TEL EK-oh LEE-mah LEE-mah OS-kah
19:40	rubenwardy	new YouTube video! (Not Minetest, OpenTTD) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeO_CtQmbQ
19:40	Krock	good old TTD
19:41	sfan5	!title
19:41	MinetestBot	sfan5: Brandyce Lauren on Pinterest
19:42	Krock	not really.
19:43	rubenwardy	sfan5: "OpenTTD - Making Cyclotrons"
19:44	sfan5	MinetestBot: are you drunk?
19:44	sfan5	oh wai
19:44	sfan5	t
19:44	sfan5	it makes perfect sense
19:44	sfan5	she saw that link in another channel
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19:46	* Jordach	pets MinetestBot
19:47		Jordach joined #minetest
19:47	sfan5	!title
19:47	MinetestBot	sfan5: Duke Ellington - It don&#39;t mean a thing (1943) - YouTube
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19:54	Krock	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY
19:57	hoodedice	!title
19:57	MinetestBot	hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
19:57	hoodedice	=O
19:57	hoodedice	You evil, you >.<
19:57	Krock	wtf?
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19:58	Krock	not rickroll.
19:58	hoodedice	Don't believe you
19:58	hoodedice	You can't get me, man
19:58	hoodedice	!title
19:58	MinetestBot	hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
19:58	Krock	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY
19:58	hoodedice	See!
19:58	Krock	!title
19:58	MinetestBot	Krock: PRESTO Disney and Pixar Short Film - YouTube
19:58	Krock	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrhxRXo0CY
19:59	Krock	!title
19:59	MinetestBot	Krock: PRESTO Disney and Pixar Short Film - YouTube
19:59	Krock	what the
19:59	hoodedice	!title
19:59	MinetestBot	hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
19:59	hoodedice	Liar.
19:59	rubenwardy	ha
19:59	hoodedice	You must've hacked MinetestBot
19:59	Krock	Yeah
19:59	Krock	what a bad boy
20:00	hoodedice	MinetestBot!
20:00	MinetestBot	hoodedice!
20:00	hoodedice	It works alright, ok?
20:00	Krock	MinetestBot!
20:00	MinetestBot	Krock!
20:00	* sfan5	flips Krock
20:01	Krock	...
20:01	hoodedice	!title
20:02	MinetestBot	hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
20:02	Krock	hahaha
20:02	hoodedice	john_minetest: wtf?
20:02	Krock	hoodedice hackd MT bot
20:03	sfan5	hoodedice: u bad hax0r
20:03	sfan5	hoodedice: I'm sueing you now
20:03	hoodedice	lolwut?
20:03	Krock	MT bot rickrolls you everytime...
20:03	hoodedice	Do !title
20:03	sfan5	!title
20:03	MinetestBot	sfan5: Google
20:03	sfan5	hm?
20:03	hoodedice	??
20:04	hoodedice	Krock, run !title
20:04	Krock	!title
20:04	MinetestBot	Krock: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
20:04	Krock	:3
20:04	hoodedice	-.-
20:04	hoodedice	Krock, See >.<
20:04	Krock	Das Leben ist hart xD
20:05	* rubenwardy	can't stop laughing
20:05	hoodedice	Lemme try...
20:05	hoodedice	!title
20:05	MinetestBot	hoodedice: I&#39;m drunk! - YouTube
20:05	hoodedice	wtf?
20:05	hoodedice	sfan5! MTBot is drunk!
20:06	sfan5	nope
20:06	hoodedice	checked drinkin.py?
20:06	sfan5	!c sum(math.sin(ord(c)) for c in 'notdrunkaaexxlr'), math.pi
20:06	MinetestBot	(3.141585667537484, 3.141592653589793)
20:06	sfan5	see it's similar to pi
20:07	rubenwardy	...and GIMP is updated!
20:07	hoodedice	hmm
20:07	hoodedice	!title
20:07	MinetestBot	hoodedice: Get Lost on Vimeo
20:07	Krock	!title
20:07	sfan5	!title
20:07	MinetestBot	Krock: Minetest
20:07	MinetestBot	sfan5: Minetest
20:07	Krock	Ok.
20:08	hoodedice	!title
20:08	MinetestBot	hoodedice: Minetest
20:09	rubenwardy	!title
20:09	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: Can't connect to http://www.hurr-durr.com/‎
20:09	rubenwardy	Any recommendations for a FOSS video editor?
20:10	hoodedice	!title
20:10	MinetestBot	hoodedice: Stable Releases : “Minetest Developers” team
20:10	hoodedice	hmm ...
20:10	hoodedice	!title
20:10	MinetestBot	hoodedice: Questions? Ask an expert for answers ASAP
20:11	hoodedice	hm.....
20:11	Jordach	rubenwardy, KDENLive or OpenShot
20:11	Jordach	KDENLive actually working
20:11	rubenwardy	!title
20:12	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: Welcome to the Moms Help Organization!
20:12	Jordach	while OpenShot stutters and doesn't like most formats
20:12	rubenwardy	ok
20:12	harrison	cinelerra for the true 1337
20:12	rubenwardy	https://www.videolan.org/vlmc/ looks exciting, but will probably never be finished
20:13	harrison	this web site can be modified by any VideoLAN developer with a SVN account.
20:13	hoodedice	!title
20:13	MinetestBot	hoodedice: RickRoll&#39;D - YouTube
20:13	hoodedice	rubenwardy: wtf?
20:13	harrison	2004 called, mr vlmc. they want their version control software back
20:14	rubenwardy	!title
20:14	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: Can't connect to http://hoodedice-is-stupid.com
20:14	rubenwardy	oh dear
20:14	hoodedice	-.-
20:14	hoodedice	hoodedice.weebly.com
20:15	hoodedice	http://hoodedice.weebly.com
20:15	hoodedice	!title
20:15	MinetestBot	hoodedice: Can't connect to http://hoodedice.weebly.com
20:15	* hoodedice	is too lazy to publish his site
20:15	harrison	The site you are looking for has not been published
20:15	rubenwardy	I currently use Serif MoviePlus, but it is quite an old version. I got it through my old school.
20:15	Jordach	push the fucking button
20:15	harrison	Jordach: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
20:16	hoodedice	Jordach: am too lazy to complete the site
20:16	Jordach	harrison, once more and i'll kickban your ass
20:16	hoodedice	sfan5! We need a !bully
20:16	Jordach	because fucking spam
20:16	harrison	you and what oper?
20:16	rubenwardy	Bye all
20:16	rubenwardy	!stfu hoodedice
20:16	MinetestBot	hoodedice, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
20:16	rubenwardy	^ bit rude
20:16	Jordach	wasn't fucking joking either
20:16	rubenwardy	!help
20:16	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:16	hoodedice	yup, looks good enough
20:17	Jordach	hoodedice, trying out flightgear
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20:17	hoodedice	s it nice?
20:17	hoodedice	*is
20:17	Jordach	hoodedice, getting it, and using TerraSync
20:17	hoodedice	Hello sydneyJDykstra!
20:17	sydneyJDykstra	hoodedice: Did you ever get that list for me?
20:17	hoodedice	Hope you enjoy it, Jordach =)
20:17	hoodedice	Just after you left, sydney
20:17	hoodedice	lol
20:17	hoodedice	http://pastebin.com/EZUQyRqv
20:18	sydneyJDykstra	Thank you!!
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20:18	hoodedice	FG was what introduced me to FOSS =D
20:18	Jordach	hoodedice, i only wanted the SR-71 blackbird
20:18	Jordach	because Mach 3.1
20:19	sydneyJDykstra	hoodedice: why did you copy it twice?
20:19	hoodedice	I want to play it
20:19	hoodedice	But it jitters like hell on my lappy =/
20:19	hoodedice	copy what twice?
20:19	Jordach	hoodedice, i'm not going to run out of room either https://cdn.mediacru.sh/SE6ynKjtwBwJ.png
20:19	hoodedice	I think I will reinstall it in Windows and try again
20:19	hoodedice	th2?
20:20	* hoodedice	hugs Jordach
20:20	Jordach	hoodedice, some ond windows game
20:20	Jordach	old*
20:20	hoodedice	It's not *old
20:20	hoodedice	IT'S FREaKIN EPIC
20:20	hoodedice	*sob*
20:20	Jordach	hoodedice, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (i fucking remember that well!)
20:20	hoodedice	I know *sob*
20:21	hoodedice	Did you unlock the fail videos?
20:21	Jordach	hoodedice, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/HW4JbEuDekPr.png
20:21	Jordach	hoodedice, ues
20:21	Jordach	yes
20:21	hoodedice	XD
20:21	hoodedice	70 GB for FG?
20:21	hoodedice	lolwut?
20:21	Jordach	hoodedice, i remember getting >200,000 points on the second tournament
20:21	hoodedice	yeah, once you get the hang of it, getting high scores become easy
20:22	Jordach	(i've also got 1,000,000 on THUnderground 2)
20:22	hoodedice	And once you undertans it is actually *button smashing* + *timing*
20:22	hoodedice	bbl =/
20:22	Jordach	hoodedice, nobody fucked with me on THUG2, because i mastered ground tricks
20:22	Jordach	oh ffs
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20:23	Jordach	phones suck rubenwardy|phone
20:24	Jordach	(even on my 9'' tablet, IRC still sucks)
20:24	Jordach	not even a keyboard helps
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20:25	rubenwardy|phone	:P
20:25	rubenwardy|phone	i can still type.
20:25	rubenwardy|phone	well
20:26	rubenwardy|phone	slide
20:27	Jordach	swype is bullshit
20:27	sydneyJDykstra	Now it says Minetest 0.4.9-dev,is that right?
20:27	Jordach	not even typing
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20:30	iqualfragile	sydneyJDykstra: was your problem resolved?
20:30	sydneyJDykstra	hoodedice: I am testing it now.
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20:33	sydneyJDykstra	Now it says ERROR:failed to download Mob Framework
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20:39	iqualfragile	i can reproduce that, it still is downloadable from https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/mobf/
20:41	iqualfragile	hmm… seems to be an error with minetest…
20:42	iqualfragile	it tries to download the right file (https://forum.minetest.net/media/mod_vers/27/2014-01-12-17-19/animals_modpack-2.3.6.zip) and gets 200 as response and still fails…
20:43	iqualfragile	!tell sapier modstore in minetest 4.9 and git both have problems with the modstore
20:43	MinetestBot	iqualfragile: I'll pass that on when sapier is around
20:44	iqualfragile	!tell sapier 4.9 (from jessie) crashes on opening the ingame, git fails to download a clearly existing file, even has the right url
20:44	MinetestBot	iqualfragile: yeah, yeah
20:44	sfan5	>minetest 4.9
20:44	iqualfragile	sydneyJDykstra: ok, will be fixed shortly
20:44	sfan5	especially you should know better
20:45	iqualfragile	!tell sapier s/4.9/0.4.9/g
20:45	MinetestBot	iqualfragile: I'll pass that on when sapier is around
20:45	sydneyJDykstra	Thanks for all your help,I downloaded it manually.
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20:46	sfan5	o/ Gambit
20:46	iqualfragile	sfan5: not from the forums
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20:46	Jordach	iqualfragile, i know
20:46	sfan5	iqualfragile: I know
20:46	iqualfragile	rubenwardy|phone: get rid of that $hit
20:47	rubenwardy|phone	huh?
20:48	iqualfragile	uh, read iphone
20:49	rubenwardy	android :P
20:49	Jordach	make hipsters kill themselves
20:50	Jordach	fucking darwinisms the best thing to humanity since evolution
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20:51	sfan5	john_minetest: put a mini-atx mainboard into a box and use it as phone
20:51	sfan5	then after 1 week tell me how it was
20:51	sfan5[iPod]	iqualfragile: this better?
20:52	sfan5	john_minetest: even better, design your own using a Freescale SoC
20:52	sfan5	up to quad core
20:52	sfan5	cortex-a9 IIRC
20:52	sfan5	even with PCIe
20:52	sfan5	lolwut
20:52	sfan5	every laptop has a (kind of) SoC
20:53	sfan5	how does that make it faster?
20:53	sfan5	the raspberry pi has external ram too
20:53	sfan5	it's just put directly above the actual SoC
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20:53	sfan5	also it would not be beneficial for Freescale to include ram into socs
20:54	sfan5	1) use ARM system as main system
20:54	sfan5	2) ???
20:55	sfan5	3) No need for cross-compilers
20:55	sfan5	they can be fast
20:55	sfan5	compare(i7.cost, armcpu.cost)
20:55	sfan5	anyway
20:55	specing	You did not pay $300 for your ARM CPU
20:56	sfan5	just wait until Freescale brings out an AArch64 cpu
20:56	specing	also ARM sucks
20:56	specing	but not speed-wise
20:56	sfan5	they even give you a free documentation
20:56	specing	support is a clusterfuck
20:56	specing	sfan5: LOL
20:56	specing	sfan5: LOL
20:56	specing	sfan5: LOL
20:56		specing was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
20:56	sfan5	lol
20:56	PenguinDad	lol
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20:57	specing	Can you tell me of an ARM CPU that has a GPU with FOSS drivers?
20:57	sfan5	the cpu of the rpi
20:57	rubenwardy|phone	slipped and pressed the exit button :(
20:57	sfan5	there is a contest
20:58	specing	indeed
20:58	sfan5	every fucking SoC is non-free
20:58	specing	broadcom is just dropping some candy for you
20:58	sfan5	do you expect them to release their transistor layouts to you?
20:59	* sfan5	rotates john_minetest 360 degrees and encrypts him with double rot13
20:59	iqualfragile	for twice the security!
20:59	iqualfragile	better be safe then sory
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21:00	sfan5	hey you thief
21:00	sfan5	I use that too
21:00	sfan5	but for my RAM
21:00	PenguinDad	ultimate security :)
21:00	sfan5	!c 1 >> 106496
21:00	MinetestBot	0
21:00	sfan5	!c 1 << 106496
21:00	MinetestBot	309327286138948197608695824927467454419079929619879387240275908493943276264312701963581851351135679488885866605110966953706294762560114375522611033097590025038968860166046528042191307758492493429302939737170809171873644907972402725545746818050481756974838059516003856808344905624235584810373785325276536543916878523353894234267816518903270866670886271824905896810223309862698794776010468369755099260568078141076437187119897354608037314819746549703581435
21:00	sfan5	ah
21:00	sfan5	very effective
21:01	sfan5	!c struct.pack("!L", 123456789)
21:01	MinetestBot	'\x07[\xcd\x15'
21:01	sfan5	ooh
21:01	* sfan5	throws Missingno. at joepie91
21:01	sfan5	oops
21:01	sfan5	john_minetest*
21:02	* specing	smells arbitrary code execution by that bot
21:02	specing	!c 1<< 1
21:02	MinetestBot	2
21:02	specing	!c print "lol"
21:02	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
21:02	specing	!c print ("lol")
21:02	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
21:02	specing	hmm
21:02	specing	oh well, carry on
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21:22	markveidemanis	Hi
21:32	markveidemanis	!c __print__("lol")
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21:32	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: Sorry, but no double underscores.
21:33	markveidemanis	woah
21:33	markveidemanis	slow
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21:39	sapier	https://gist.github.com/sapier/9745980 Link to latest android port as well as list of known issues, please test and add your findings to this list! thanks!
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21:58	celeron55	has someone used mobf for custom use cases?
21:59	celeron55	i'm wondering what is the simplest way to make a mob move towards a certain point on a map and do a special action once it reaches it
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22:00	celeron55	i would like to have something take care of the low-level details of movement and supply it information where it's supposed to be going
22:02	Sokomine	celeron55: in my experience, mobf works fine in singleplayer. the movements of the mobs there are more convincing than those in simple mobs or other mob mods (at least to me)
22:03	Sokomine	celeron55: the trouble was that mobf is problematic on servers. the only server who runs it successfully is mineguild.de - and that hardly has more than 2-3 players at a time
22:03	celeron55	what limits it?
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22:05	Sokomine	best talk to vanessae and sapier - they know the details. the network protocol of mt did have problems in the past - players connecting and getting the media content of the models (several mb) caused so much lag the server became unplayable
22:06	Sokomine	there are still reports about a) too much network traffic (talk to cheapie/vanessae about it) and b) occasional entity duplications
22:06	celeron55	i'm not going to use models, that's for sure
22:06	Sokomine	why not? what do you intend to use instead?
22:06	celeron55	and this is not a persistent world, so duplication and small bugs isn't a huge issue
22:07	cheapie	Yeah, VE-S lagged like crazy when mobs were installed.
22:07	celeron55	animated sprites, because i find then much more accessible
22:07	celeron55	them*
22:07	celeron55	and better looking
22:07	Sokomine	hmm. that's a question of taste i think. to me, the 2d sprites are kind of creepy. mobf is closest to provide convincing animals
22:08	celeron55	creepy? all the better
22:08	Sokomine	for player-like mobs, those sand- and dirtmonsters in simple mobs work pretty ok
22:08	celeron55	i'm not making a dollhouse
22:08	celeron55	but that's not the issue, stop talking about it
22:08	Sokomine	ok. so the issue is movement?
22:08	celeron55	the issue is making mobs that behave specially without writing all movement details from scratch
22:09	Sokomine	ah. mobf seems good for that. you can even select diffrent movement generators or write your own
22:09	celeron55	there is the path-based movement generator but it's hard to see how these really plug together
22:10	celeron55	for example, is there a working interface for supplying a target for it or is it somehow hardcoded to only accept targets from some kind of attack code
22:10	celeron55	... and talking about attack code, i have no idea where that is
22:10	iqualfragile	!tell sapier upd8 ur docs
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22:12	Sokomine	i experimented a bit with mobf and tried to teach them to use furniture (find a chair and sit down). that did work to a degree; you can supply targets for the movement generator withhin lua
22:13	Sokomine	positions/coordinates as targets work fine
22:13	rubenwardy|phone	interesting. i guess you mean villagers, rather than sheep :P
22:13	rubenwardy|phone	or cows
22:13	Sokomine	yes, the villages are supposed to sit down :-)
22:14	Sokomine	my newest mod adds a trader. unfortionately, that doesn't help celeron as it does not do any movement at all. it just stands there and awaits customers
22:15	rubenwardy|phone	would be hilarious to get sheep to sit down and read a newspaper
22:15	Sokomine	*g*
22:15	Sokomine	provide the animation and they may ,-)
22:16	rubenwardy|phone	heh. i can't animate at all :(
22:16	celeron55	john_minetest: they don't have any kind of pathfinding management code so it's useless for this use case
22:16	celeron55	that's the most tedious part
22:17	Exio4	sapier probably knows
22:17	Exio4	:P
22:17	celeron55	yes he does, but he isn't here now
22:18	Sokomine	hmm. did you take a look at npcf? afaik that's based on jordan4ibanez' movement code. the npc there manage to follow a player to a degree, and during a quick test, they didn't fell into holes but managed to reach me
22:18	rubenwardy|phone	i haven't used mobf since... well, the last time i used it was when the animals and players were billboards.
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22:19	rubenwardy|phone	john-minetest: it's in the API, but it doesn't actually work. at least when i tried it.
22:20	Sokomine	npcf can be found here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7321
22:20	rubenwardy|phone	bye all. sleep time.
22:21	Sokomine	sleep well
22:21	rubenwardy|phone	time to count sheep sitting reading newspapers.
22:21	rubenwardy|phone	:P
22:21	Sokomine	hope they got a good newspaper to read from :-)
22:23	celeron55	npcf doesn't seem to do any magic regarding to movement either
22:23	celeron55	mobf seems to be my only hope
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22:34	sydneyJDykstra	When I upgrade my ubuntu version will i have to uninstall minetest before I do it?
22:36	sydneyJDykstra	?
22:41	celeron55	sydneyJDykstra: no, it will probably automatically uninstall minetest if the package becomes incompatible
22:42	sydneyJDykstra	celeron55: ok thanks!!
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22:45	VanessaE	celeron55: there is also PilzAdam's "simple mobs"
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22:46	VanessaE	(that's the one I used, it's the lightest-weight one, but in its default state will add ~25-30 kB/sec of network bandwidth at the user's end, or so was the claim at the time)
22:47	celeron55	it was already discussed
22:47	VanessaE	ok, I missed that part.
22:47	celeron55	00:17:10 < celeron55> john_minetest: they don't have any kind of pathfinding management code so it's useless for this  use case
22:47	celeron55	00:17:20 < celeron55> that's the most tedious part
22:48	hevygale	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10213548/minetest/2014-03-21_00002.jpg that's "Simple Mobs" for me, endless spawningand 1fps Oo
22:48	VanessaE	oh right.  didn't read "PAs mobs" as anything special the first time.
22:48	VanessaE	hevygale: EEEEEK
22:48	VanessaE	it never did that on my box
22:49	celeron55	it's probably just what the germans call "normal difficulty"
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22:49	hevygale	:D I coudn't even move :D
22:50	hevygale	does that just happen for me, or is that commom behaviour?
22:51	celeron55	dunno, but something related to that was recently fixed
22:51	celeron55	(in the engine)
22:51	hevygale	my sever version is about 2 weeks old,  head from github
22:51	celeron55	umm... maybe the fix broke things then
22:52	iqualfragile	well, they are in reih und glied :D
22:53	hevygale	this happend for all mob mods I tested so far, except modf
22:55	celeron55	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/db98ef6b4553e7b7cb99589740dc219902a90fbc
22:55	celeron55	the issue is probably this
22:55	celeron55	shout at sapier once he is back
22:56	celeron55	or just add an issue
22:56	hevygale	I compiled on 6.3. that's 19 days ago, too
22:57	hevygale	or wait :D
22:57	celeron55	that seems to have been made 2014-03-06 18:18:36 UTC
22:57	PilzAdam	hevygale, its not supposed to be like that
22:57	hevygale	sure it's not :D
22:58	PilzAdam	I wonder how that sheep got into the desert
22:58	celeron55	what's probably happening is that mobs gets multiple ABM calls on the same block and as the object counts aren't always recalculated, it always sees that "oh, there's no objects here"
22:59	celeron55	there should be a mechanism that increases those counts when the ABM callback adds an entity
22:59	hevygale	in the server appeared lots of messages like there are too many objects on a node and it willnow drop some
22:59	celeron55	or recalculates them
23:00	PilzAdam	celeron55, also removal or moving away / into the block
23:00	celeron55	those are less important
23:00	VanessaE	I wonder if that change is also what's causing the stack overflow on my Creative server when digging certain objects that are scanned/nodeupdate()'d inside an ABM (e.g. vines mod)
23:01	VanessaE	hevygale: that's normal.  ignore that message and concentrate what's causing them to stack up
23:01	celeron55	that doesn't explain what actually is happening on the server but probably nott
23:01	celeron55	-t
23:02	celeron55	(as vines are nodes nad this is completely an object issue)
23:02	PilzAdam	VanessaE, do you have any 3d torches mod on your server?
23:02	VanessaE	true true
23:03	VanessaE	PilzAdam: on the affected server, the only "3d torches" are just the nodebox-based ones that originally came from the 3dforniture mod.  nothing entity-based.
23:03	PilzAdam	this has nothing to do with entities
23:03	VanessaE	erm...
23:04	PilzAdam	I just noticed a while ago that on some server there were 3d torches which always dropped when a nodeupate() call ran on them
23:04	PilzAdam	just wanted to know what mod that is
23:04	VanessaE	ooooohhhhh
23:04	VanessaE	homedecor supplies them
23:04	VanessaE	but I don't think they drop
23:04	VanessaE	I think you are looking for one by... Blockmen maybe?
23:04	PilzAdam	maybe
23:04	VanessaE	wtf was it, I know the one you're thinking of
23:04	PilzAdam	they look pretty MC like
23:04	VanessaE	yeah
23:05	VanessaE	uses a metric assload of really tiny nodeboxes
23:05	VanessaE	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6099
23:05	VanessaE	bingo
23:05	VanessaE	but not as "tiny" as I recalled.
23:05	PilzAdam	yea, that its
23:05	PilzAdam	*thats it
23:07	VanessaE	I think in the case of Creative, the vines do it because whole columns of them are supposed to be able to drop or something
23:08	VanessaE	I believe Sokomine was able to reproduce the bug on a clean singleplayer world with a copy of the errant tree and its vines via a worldedit savefile
23:09	Sokomine	VanessaE: no, i don't think you're talking about the same torches. the ones in homedecor - which are based on the old 3dforniture mod - behave as they ought to. it's a new 3d torches mod that is still under development and sometimes has the problem pilzadam mentioned
23:09	Sokomine	ah yes, the vines
23:09	VanessaE	Sokomine: see above, PA wanted BlockMen's torch mod
23:10	Sokomine	it's a combination of some of those vines beeing wall-mounted (wall in that case beeing leaves), there beeing so many vines in one area, and builtin calling all sourrounding nodes (3x3x3 cube) whenever one node is digged...so there's a huge cascade of vines that suddenly drop
23:11	Sokomine	afaik there's at least one other 3dtorches mod around as well. might be more
23:11	PilzAdam	does the vines mod use builtin's nodeupate()?
23:12	Sokomine	so the problem on vanessas server is partly that of the mod and partly that of the engine/builtin (stack overflow errors are hard to follow/find the cause of them; perhaps a limit of affected nodes might help a lot there)
23:12	PilzAdam	(this one: https://github.com/bas080/vines ?)
23:12	VanessaE	PilzAdam: right mod, but no it doesn't call that function directly
23:12	Sokomine	the vines mod has vines that grow on trees and are wallmounted
23:13	VanessaE	init.lua:local vines_group = {attached_node=1,vines=1,snappy=3,flammable=2,hanging_node=1}
23:13	VanessaE	so the nodes are "attached_node"
23:13	VanessaE	it's the engine doing it on it's own at dig
23:13	VanessaE	or well, the digging code is.
23:14	Sokomine	and as the trees are big and in this special case overgrown with these vines, there are a lot of nodes that suddenly call for updates
23:14	Megaf	Hi everyone
23:15	Sokomine	it's a bit like that landslide you can see on freeminer servers - dig one sand and..a lot happens
23:15	Sokomine	(or may happen)
23:16	PilzAdam	attached_node doesnt have any delay like falling_node
23:17	Sokomine	perhaps a dealy might help?
23:19	PilzAdam	it certainly does help with falling nodes
23:20	PilzAdam	can you reproduce the error reliably?
23:21	PilzAdam	if yes then please try this: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/9773601
23:21	Sokomine	the problematic tree can be found here: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/invasionofthevines.mts
23:22	Sokomine	it may not always crash
23:24	PilzAdam	meh, I currently have no good setup to place .mts
23:25	Sokomine	no worldedit installed?
23:25	PilzAdam	only my own worldedit++
23:26	VanessaE	so install it in any new world :P
23:33	blaise	oh wow, 0.4.9 ?
23:33	blaise	I feel like 0.4.1 was the last version I got to run
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23:33	VanessaE	pfft
23:33	VanessaE	0.4.10 is coming soon...ish
23:34	blaise	VanessaE: am I losing my mind or something?
23:34	Sokomine	PilzAdam: as far as i can tell, it seems to work fine. i set the delay higher to visualize the effect
23:34	blaise	I think I am..
23:34	blaise	lol, I am..
23:34	Sokomine	blaise: a lot has improved since 0.4.1 :-) get the newest dev version running and connect to a server :-)
23:34	blaise	Installed versions:  0.4.9(07:13:42 PM 01/15/2014)
23:38	Eater4	Hello
23:40	celeron55	oh by the way this is pretty bad http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-to-buy-oculus-rift-for-2-billion-2014-3
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23:41	celeron55	it seemed like oculus vr was generally remotely ethical but now it's going to be the opposite of anything good in this world
23:42	EvergreenTree	http://minetest.net/contributors Needs to be updated
23:42	EvergreenTree	Hi celeron55
23:42	celeron55	(in case anyone is interested in such modern gaming-oriented news; it seems like generally nobody here does)
23:43	Eater4	Lol
23:48	crazyR_	c55: just read that link, mark is a genius, now when i go doctor and show my ass, i dont need to feel embarrased.... yeah like thats gunna work, he's an idiot lol :D
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23:50	crazyR_	on a serius note, why does it feel like someone has pushed mark into buying it. its entirely out of context with what fb does and is
23:51	celeron55	dunno; maybe it speeds up the death of facebook which is too slow otherwise
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23:53	crazyR_	lol maybe. somehow i think il be dead before fb is. he'l just keep throwing money at it i suppose
23:53	celeron55	also, when you go to your doctor in VR, think of what kinds of targeted advertisements facebook will display there
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23:54	crazyR_	damn, now it makes sense lol
23:58	EvergreenTree	Hi celeron55, hsven't seen you in a while
23:58	EvergreenTree	*haven't
23:58	EvergreenTree	on #minetest that is

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