Time Nick Message 00:10 EvergreenTree It's quiet here 00:10 EvergreenTree too quiet 00:10 EvergreenTree Quick, someone say something controversial! 00:10 PilzAdam burn the trees 00:18 EvergreenTree how dare you 00:18 EvergreenTree well, I asked for it 00:18 EvergreenTree :P 00:22 us`0gb Burn the trees and the fungi! 00:22 us`0gb And the cats. We can't forget them. 00:49 PilzAdam EvergreenTree, you missed a very interesting discussion while being away 00:49 * EvergreenTree looks at the logs 00:49 EvergreenTree "logs" 00:49 EvergreenTree lol 00:49 PilzAdam we used [off] 00:49 EvergreenTree oh, so no logs? 00:50 PilzAdam yes 00:50 EvergreenTree yeah, no logs 00:50 E4xoi blame PA, he had the idea of use [off] 00:52 PilzAdam yea, blame pulse audio 00:53 E4xoi lol 00:53 E4xoi jackd > pulseaudio 00:56 us`0gb Pulse Audio ... I hear it's always making trouble like that. 01:38 paramat dyson cube modpack http://i.imgur.com/Mp29nQY.png https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7869 < hmmmm 01:40 paramat next i'll add clouds and a central cubic sun 02:02 hmmmm agh 02:02 hmmmm damn the lighting is disasterous 02:03 hmmmm paramat, how's this for an idea: 02:03 hmmmm you can override Y+ to Y- lighting with "lighting from an origin" 02:04 hmmmm I'm thinking like you'd have some sort of rectangular region where light spreads from all faces 02:05 hmmmm and it propogates the same way as normal light 02:06 hmmmm agh who am I kidding 02:06 hmmmm shouldn't bother with light to that extent, unless it turns out to be trivial to do.... it's just so unflexible, i can't wait for hardware lighting 02:10 us`0gb proller: I was told you were the one to ask about the Minetest protocol. It's based on UDP, right? And does it have a name? MTP, perhaps? 02:25 paramat hmmmm, interesting idea. ive been feeling it would be good to have a lightweight / simplified hardware lighting, that more suits MT's character 02:30 paramat ... simplified as in it works at node resolution with level 0-15 as it does now, but spreads light as hardware lighting does 02:38 hmmmm one of the greatest advantages of hardware lighting is that we wouldn't be restricted to 16 levels of light 02:38 hmmmm which means an arbitrarily long range 02:40 hmmmm so let me think about this out loud... I'll have two biome types, climate and terrain 02:40 hmmmm a specific biome is a combination of the two biome types 02:40 hmmmm so like for example snow mountains, snow plains, snow hills, snow ocean (arctic) or whatevr 02:41 hmmmm the selection for the climate biome is a fast cached voronoi diagram O(1) lookup 02:41 hmmmm as for the terrain, this is what i need to think harder about, this is a combination of terrain variance and absolute height 02:41 hmmmm the absolute height thing is a problem though 02:42 hmmmm how do I make beach biomes occur at a specific height interval 02:42 hmmmm this would require me to use what's being used right now in biome selection, which is bad, bad, bad. either that O(n) selection or a K-means lookup that's just as slow in practice 02:44 NekoGloop so have we allowed any good amount of items? Say, 32k? 02:44 us`0gb Hardware lighting sounds like it might be good. Hopefully there would be a setting to turn it off though? I don't think my machine can take it. It can't even take shaders. 02:47 hmmmm perhaps average height could be used of the surrounding area instead of height at that specific point.. this would be functionally equivalent to just flattening the terrain though 02:48 hmmmm but i'd be able to leverage what I already have computed while doing terrain variance 02:48 hmmmm does this solve my problem? 02:49 Megaf Hi everyone 02:49 Megaf good night, see you tomorrow 02:49 hmmmm hrmm 02:49 * paramat reads ... 02:49 hmmmm no it doesn't 02:50 hmmmm in fact that's the dumbest idea i've ever come up with 02:50 hmmmm the fact is, biome selection by absolute height matters way more at the "average" heights 02:50 hmmmm the extremes, like 29000, not so much 02:51 hmmmm so I want like a logarithmic decay 02:51 hmmmm but I can't use logarithm of course 02:51 paramat arctan is nice ... 02:52 hmmmm the cutoff is too steep 02:56 hmmmm but it's the nicest i have 02:56 hmmmm yeah, gonna have to go with arctan 02:57 paramat ive been watching MC videos of 'biomes a plenty' and im considering biome groups, multiple biomes in each of 9 or 16 temp/humid sectors 02:57 hmmmm float height_score = atan(ground_height * 5 / 31000); 02:58 hmmmm paramat, i had biome groups at first :D 02:58 hmmmm they were called exactly that, biome groups 02:59 paramat i remember you describing them, good idea 02:59 hmmmm they worked out poorly 03:00 paramat i would have a 3rd perlin noise selecting which biome to spawn from the temp/humid group of that column / node 03:00 hmmmm yup, that's how my biome group worked 03:00 paramat lol 03:00 hmmmm or, 'bgroup' 03:01 hmmmm i think actually biomes work out just fine with these simpler algorithms but it's just very difficult to tune 03:02 paramat time consuming to tune, i should know, at times i put full time hours into mapgen 03:03 hmmmm it's way too time consuming 03:10 * paramat writes suncube mod 03:44 paramat ... 321ms per chunk, toodle pip! 03:49 iqualfragile soo, i have been thinking about how to generate climate again, the high-effort version 03:50 iqualfragile in real life most of the water in the air eveporated from oceans 03:51 iqualfragile additionally the main wind direction is ocean -> land 03:51 iqualfragile so instead of setting a static wind direction one would use a vector pointed away from the nearest ocean 03:52 iqualfragile that would make landscape quite a lot more realistic but on the other hand be a *bit* slower as you cant just offset the bitmap by some static vector 03:54 iqualfragile hmm… if one would only allow 8 directions it might actually be doable 03:55 iqualfragile just start your cloud at the outside of an ocean initialize it with lets say 1 03:56 iqualfragile then move one block in vector direction, loose some water based on the height change, continue until no more water is left 03:57 iqualfragile would still require to pregenerate a lot of terrain, but at least now we know how much exactly: untill all the land you want to generate is surrounded by ocean 03:58 iqualfragile looking at current terrain generators that might be a bad idea thought, as they generate incredibly large continents… 03:58 iqualfragile hmmmm: thoughts? 03:59 iqualfragile actually you could also incorporate temperature change to calculate humidity reduction 04:00 iqualfragile about finding the height of a block: that would be a _lot_ easier if 2d perlin noise would be used, is 3d noise realy nescesary? (just asking :D) 05:32 paramat added suncube mod to dyson cube modpack http://i.imgur.com/9RS0HCQ.png a chunk sized central sun of lethal plasma (a non flowing liquid) 05:36 RealBadAngel nice 05:42 paramat =) 06:22 RealBadAngel ofc sun movement shall be disabled in this mod and lightsource set to center of suncube 06:22 RealBadAngel that soon will be possible :) 08:28 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #134 from Novatux/master 2cab6aa5ef 2014-03-20T09:28:03+01:00 http://git.io/TKo1-A 09:35 JamesTait Good morning all; happy World Storytelling Day! :-D 11:40 Megaf Hi all 11:41 enchilado Hi Megaf 11:46 E4xoi hihi 11:53 CheapSeth Hi 12:48 sfan5 yay! 12:48 sfan5 my 2nd display arrived 12:48 CheapSeth \o/ 12:52 sfan5 > the ones holding the screen. 12:52 sfan5 lol 13:02 reactor Solder it back? 13:09 reactor On. So the cable itself is okay? 13:10 reactor Some kind of a connector that broke? 13:12 reactor Remove it and solider it permanently, then cut it and solder a simple connector in the middle? 13:13 reactor You're not likely to find a spare anyway. 13:13 reactor Non-standard connectors must die, anyway. 13:14 reactor Yay! "anyway" twice in a row, anyway. 13:15 reactor It's a ribbon? 13:15 reactor stick a piece of rubber in there to hold it in place? 13:15 reactor I know those. A kind of ribbons. They suck. 13:16 PenguinDad where can I find the mods that were used on the LogoSkyblock server? 13:16 reactor If it's not too many wires in it, you can replace it with real wires. 13:30 reactor john_minetest: if got no rubber, a piece of eraser or plastic foam will do. 13:53 * EvergreenTree just saw a better way of detecting when a player is drowning 13:54 EvergreenTree something like: "if player:get_breath == 0 then" 13:55 kaeza +() 13:55 kaeza mornings 13:56 EvergreenTree Hi kaeza 13:56 EvergreenTree Yes, +() 13:56 EvergreenTree :P 13:56 kaeza :) 14:10 EvergreenTree Does anyone know why this doesn't work: 14:10 EvergreenTree http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7125423/ 14:11 PenguinDad change "player_name:get_breath()" to "player:get_breath()" 14:12 EvergreenTree I tried that 14:12 EvergreenTree Same error 14:12 EvergreenTree I'll try it again 14:13 kaeza >minetest.chat_send_all(player .. "drowned.") 14:13 kaeza you are calling get_breath() on a string, and concatenating an userdata value 14:14 kaeza I think you want the other way around :) 14:15 EvergreenTree Sorry, so what would I need to do? 14:16 EvergreenTree ^ used to python 14:17 kaeza change as PenguinDad said, then `player .. "drowned."' to `player_name .. "drowned."' 14:17 kaeza if that fails, report the new error 14:18 PenguinDad and add a space before drowned :p 14:18 kaeza :P 14:19 EvergreenTree Thanks. I knew it would be something obvious 14:19 EvergreenTree and + 14:25 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:26 EvergreenTree Hi PilzAdam! 14:26 PenguinDad Hello PilzAdam 14:27 EvergreenTree Now if you will excuse me, I have some school work to do. bbl 14:27 EvergreenTree :P 14:27 kaeza cya 14:27 crazyR does anyone know if theres a php class for grabbing data from a minetest server? 14:28 kaeza crazyR, there are a few projects around in the forums 14:28 crazyR anything close to working. or anything you would suggest above others? 14:29 kaeza not really 14:29 crazyR ok, thanks kaeza il look into them :) 14:40 matibln Hi 14:42 kaeza hi 14:45 harrison why should a husk have flashing lights? 16:03 Jordach sfan5, my OCD is killing me http://i.imgur.com/FDvXXHU.png 16:16 Krock Hello 16:17 Jordach ello krocky 16:18 Krock Jordach, ever have seen this? http://www.dbad-license.org/ 16:18 Krock It's cool but little children are playing MT too, so I can't use it in my project :3 16:19 Jordach yet we have mods with WTFPL 16:19 * Jordach says all systems go 16:20 Krock ok. 16:20 Krock I'll use it cuz yolo 16:21 SylvieLorxu Krock: That's a non-Free license 16:21 SylvieLorxu More restrictive than MIT as well :P 16:21 Krock depends if you want to be a d*** or not :P 16:22 SylvieLorxu No, it literally is more restrictive than MIT 16:22 harrison i must warn you that the dbad license appears to originate from the darkest underbelly of irc, e.g. and to wit, the anti-blogging trolling organization GNAA 16:22 SylvieLorxu And it isn't Free :P 16:22 Krock Uh... it looked soo awsum 16:22 harrison you might as well build a goatse portal to the "undernether" 16:31 Krock Alot can happen within 365 * 38 days 16:49 markveidemanis SFAN5 16:49 markveidemanis sorry caps 16:49 sfan5 hm? 16:49 markveidemanis find . -type f -name '*.h' - o -name '*.cpp' | for read -r f; do sed -ire 's/u(\d\d?)/uint\1_t/' $f; sed -ire 's/s(\d\d?)/int\1_t/' $f; done 16:49 markveidemanis >>replacing -ire with -i -re 16:50 markveidemanis Still throws error 16:50 us`0gb I can't seem to find it via search engine ... Does anyone know where the noguest module is or who writes it? 16:50 markveidemanis It looks like -r f is the problem 16:50 Calinou kaeza? 16:50 sfan5 mh 16:50 kaeza Calinou? 16:50 sfan5 markveidemanis, try: sed -re -i $f 16:51 Calinou kaeza, did you make noguest? 16:51 kaeza yes 16:51 kaeza (the original version at least) 16:52 markveidemanis Syntax error near unexpected token `-r' 16:53 sfan5 markveidemanis: did you try what I did for both commands 16:53 sfan5 ? 16:53 markveidemanis Yep 16:53 sfan5 s/did/said/ 16:53 sfan5 how does the command look now 16:53 sfan5 ? 16:55 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8953916 16:55 Krock us`0gb: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minetest+forums+no_guests 16:55 us`0gb Thanks! 16:55 Krock np 16:55 sfan5 Krock: noguest site:forum.minetest.net is even more preciese 16:55 sfan5 markveidemanis: what's your version of sed 16:56 markveidemanis sed? 16:56 markveidemanis Should I update it 16:56 markveidemanis idk what it is 16:56 sfan5 markveidemanis: $ sed --version 16:56 us`0gb kaeza: It seems noguest locks me out because my name, 0gb_us, consists of only numeric characters. 16:56 Krock sfan5, but sometimes it can't find older topics, once I searched for onf of my mods in modding generals and there were no hits 16:56 Krock *one 16:57 sfan5 your topic must be very old then 16:57 sfan5 google should've indexed the whole forum by now 16:57 markveidemanis 4.2.1-10.el6 16:57 markveidemanis oh, a sec 16:57 kaeza us`0gb, O_o 16:57 markveidemanis yep, 4.2.1 16:57 Krock How long must a topic be dead until the forums can't find it anymore? 16:57 sfan5 ?????? 16:57 sfan5 what? 16:58 sfan5 google finds every topic 16:58 sfan5 it does not depend on age 16:58 sfan5 markveidemanis: try this 16:58 Krock "your topic must be very old then" I meant the forum search 16:58 us`0gb Yeah .... I'm told the code is checking my first character and assuming the rest is numeric. 16:59 us`0gb I used a regular search engine, not the one in the forum. I didn't even think of the one in the forum. 16:59 sfan5 find . -type f -name '*.h' - o -name '*.cpp' | for read -r f; do sed -re 's/u(\d\d?)/uint\1_t/' < $f > tmp$$ && mv tmp$$ $f; sed -re 's/s(\d\d?)/int\1_t/' <$f && mv tmp$$ $f; done 16:59 sfan5 Krock: the forum search engine is very bad 16:59 * Calinou managed to use gtk-recordmydesktop to record video of a game 16:59 Calinou is there a way to tell it to not compress the recorded video? 17:00 sfan5 Calinou: use ffmpeg to record things 17:00 sfan5 you have full control over everything then 17:01 kaeza us`0gb, does it say exactly "All-numeric usernames are disallowed on this server." ? 17:01 Calinou sfan5, too complicated, can't get sound to work 17:02 sfan5 Calinou: use pavucontrol to make ffmpeg record monitor of interal audio 17:02 kaeza also, which server are we talking about here? 17:06 us`0gb kaeza: Yes it does say that. And it's linuxgaming.us. 17:07 kaeza us`0gb, in the original script, the pattern corresponding to that message is "^[0-9]+$"; maybe they modified it to add a new rule? 17:08 us`0gb Hmm. Interesting. Thanks kaeza! 17:09 Calinou gtk-recordmydesktop doesn't record sound either, meh 17:09 kaeza print(("0gb_us"):match("^[0-9]+$")) --> nil 17:14 Calinou SSR can record VP8 directly, still no sound 17:15 Calinou got it working :d 17:19 us`0gb Drats. They say that my only option is to chose a name without digits. I guess I'll take option B and walk. Plenty of other servers let my use the name 0gb_us. 17:19 us`0gb *choose 17:21 markveidemanis sfan5, same error as before 17:21 sfan5 hm 17:21 markveidemanis I think the error is in the -r f 17:21 sfan5 then your sed does not have perl support 17:21 sfan5 too bad 17:21 markveidemanis How can I update it? 17:21 sfan5 you should know how to do that 17:32 markveidemanis How? 17:33 markveidemanis Idk the specific package 17:33 sfan5 have you tried googling yet? 17:34 harrison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kem9FBJjZ3I&feature=kp 17:35 sfan5 !title 17:35 MinetestBot sfan5: Shoes for Industry - YouTube 17:40 markveidemanis Googling what? 17:40 markveidemanis sed-perl? 17:40 markveidemanis perl-sed? 17:41 sfan5 "update package " 17:45 Calinou have you tried googling yet? 17:45 Calinou better not try Googling 17:49 markveidemanis I don't know the package name 17:50 knifethrower93 hi guys 17:50 Jordach fuckin perl you idiot 17:51 Jordach if all else perl* 17:51 knifethrower93 JORDACH language XD 17:51 knifethrower93 oh its fluffy btw 17:52 Jordach Freenode != InchraNet 17:53 Jordach my swear rate here is through the fuckin roof 17:53 knifethrower93 wow jordach, angry much?? o.O 17:53 Jordach knifethrower93, because of ShadowNinja i liked getting used to swearing when death by lava occurs 17:54 * sfan5 flips knifethrower93 17:54 knifethrower93 haha btw, just call me fluffy, its mee derp lol 17:54 Jordach still got the touch :d 17:54 knifethrower93 hah ;) 17:55 knifethrower93 im in english class XD 17:56 knifethrower93 so i cant play minetest anymore cause i got caught and my parents dont want me playin it, so im sol as far as that goes. Bloody parents -.- 17:56 sfan5 >so i cant play minetest anymore cause i got caught and my parents dont want me playin it 17:56 sfan5 what is this? 17:56 * Jordach looks at Windows again 17:56 sfan5 Mintest ain't some shooter 17:57 * sfan5 throws Linux at Jordach 17:57 Jordach dafuq are you smoking, i didn't unplug my headphones FROM THE BACK 17:57 knifethrower93 O.o huh?? 17:57 Calinou throwing a kernel! 17:57 * knifethrower93 throws knife at sfan5 17:57 * sfan5 slaps knifethrower93 17:57 knifethrower93 hah, that is a dangerous game your playing gov 17:59 * Jordach throws Minecraft at knifethrower93 17:59 knifethrower93 alright, it is time for me to leave you crazy americans XD see ya soon..... maybe 17:59 knifethrower93 oh and tell iluvpeeps7 i said hi :D 18:01 markveidemanis !tell iluvpeeps7 knifethrower93 said hi 18:01 MinetestBot markveidemanis: yeah, sure, whatever 18:11 us`0gb 18:13 us`0gb MinetestBot seems a little irritable today. 18:22 Krock !up 62.203.236.100 18:22 MinetestBot 62.203.236.100:30000 is up (27ms) 18:23 Krock Weird... 27ms are very fast, in contrast to the max_lag ingame 18:24 sfan5 Krock: max_lag is the RTT to the laggiest player, the ping is from a server in.... 18:24 sfan5 actually.. 18:24 sfan5 I'm not sure where my vps is 18:25 Krock sfan5, laggiest player, like the one with the worst internet connection? 18:25 sfan5 yes like that 18:26 Krock oh okay, just because before I upgraded to the newer MT version it was under 2s.. I thought there was a change 19:49 Krock clients={Krock,Hugo,unknown,unknown,nman3600} wtf? 19:49 Jordach Krock, they've used UNICODE in their name 19:50 Krock I've got no_guests, so it's not possible 19:50 Jordach Krock, is FreeType enabled? 19:50 Krock no idea 19:50 Krock Using sfan5's newest build 19:51 Jordach if it is: unicode can be utilised as a username 19:51 sfan5 Krock: my build has freetype 19:51 Krock oh, and that causes such problems? 19:51 sfan5 Jordach: wut 19:51 sfan5 usernames can only contains certain chars 19:51 Jordach strange 19:51 sfan5 unicode is not a part of these chars 19:52 Jordach shit 19:52 Krock I already had this problem serval times, where players suddenly joined twice 19:52 Jordach 1st of April is in 11 days 19:52 Krock ye...ong time 19:52 Krock *long time 19:53 Jordach Krock, it was Monday a few hours ago to my clock 19:53 * Jordach doesn't have a working sense of time anymore 20:03 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #141 from ShadowNinja/commandblock_textarea a9427d267b 2014-03-20T21:02:43+01:00 http://git.io/6dv3Cw 20:04 ShadowNinja \o/ 20:52 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133940#p133940 20:52 PilzAdam \o/ I am important! \o/ 20:52 Jordach Gambit, such generic name 20:52 Jordach derek :P 21:14 iqualfragile PilzAdam: i do not get the context, why is he called a pilzadam wanabe? 21:15 iqualfragile hmmmm: i had to sleep a litle yesterda, did you read my brawling? 21:15 ShadowNinja ^ 21:16 ShadowNinja I don't think this is the first time someone's called him important, or something like that though. 21:44 enchilado Jordach: I don't know anyone called Derek. 21:44 enchilado Apart from Gambit. 21:45 Jordach enchilado, that was the joke 21:45 enchilado Oh. Okay. 21:45 Jordach also: thanks for tricking me into thinking this was #minecraft# 21:45 enchilado I did? 21:45 Jordach yeah i usually see you in there 21:46 enchilado I am more active there than here. 21:46 Jordach enchilado, and i'm wating on my famed render to finish up 21:46 enchilado I was absent from this channel for a while because irssi died and I couldn't remember all the channels I was in, too. 21:46 enchilado Oh? 21:47 Jordach enchilado, how it feels to be an admin http://i.imgur.com/haQWIF9.png 21:47 Jordach (esp when banning someone) 21:48 enchilado Haha 21:48 Jordach and no, that's not someone elses model, that's my own graft of several weeks 21:48 enchilado Neat 21:48 Jordach enchilado, http://jordach.deviantart.com for more 21:49 enchilado Jordach: http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/Peace-440302424 - Minecraft's Skyblock? :p 21:50 Jordach enchilado, just thought of doing something random 21:50 Jordach enchilado, i once made one from the minetest logo 21:50 enchilado I like the style 21:50 Jordach enchilado, i use that one as my wallpaper currently 21:51 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6851 <- LogoSkyBlock 22:01 Jordach everyone 22:01 Jordach OP RAVE 22:01 Jordach shit 22:02 Jordach you ruined my plan for an OP RAVE ShadowNinja 22:15 Jordach hello john_minetest 22:15 Jordach jordan4ibanez * 22:15 jordan4ibanez Hello myself 22:20 ShadowNinja Jordach: Er, good. I think. 22:48 Jordach because of googles monopoly in search 22:48 Jordach and they advertise chrome on any form of google.* 22:53 heavygale there are ads,yes 22:54 heavygale but only if activated by the uploader 22:54 heavygale maybe you're just watching the "right" videos 23:55 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133967#p133967 wat?