Time Nick Message 01:01 JaceVE sup 02:19 hoodedice Anyone knows about World diff by Casimir? 02:24 hoodedice Also should I be downloading 'libluajit'? 02:39 hoodedice Umm, I'm getting this error in compilation 02:39 hoodedice filing a bug report 02:43 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:45 hoodedice Hello 02:45 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:45 hoodedice ? 02:45 hoodedice From> 02:46 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:46 hoodedice Ragnar? 02:46 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:47 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:47 VanessaE you would be well-advised to take what Ragnar says with about 10kg of salt. 02:47 VanessaE (a single grain is...inadequate) 02:48 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:48 hoodedice I don't know man 02:48 hoodedice Ragnar's game was kinda nice though 02:48 hoodedice He got banned today 02:48 Exio4 the code doesn't looks from him 02:49 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:49 Exio4 some shit, yeah, but the mechanics of the game 02:49 hoodedice Oi man, you really think so? 02:49 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:50 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:50 hoodedice damn. 02:50 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:50 hoodedice hmm 02:50 hoodedice VanessaE, banned for flooding and abusing the bot right? 02:51 hoodedice This is kind of depressing though. 02:51 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:52 hoodedice hmm. I see. 02:52 Exio4 what game? 02:52 hoodedice Pixel Birds 02:52 VanessaE I don't recall seeing a recent ban 02:52 Exio4 i don't mean his 02:52 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:52 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:52 hoodedice He meant the original game 02:52 hoodedice lol 02:53 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:53 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:53 hoodedice lol 02:53 Exio4 what 02:53 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:53 Exio4 about the original game 02:53 Exio4 w/ real title 02:54 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:54 hoodedice Yes 02:54 Exio4 yep 02:54 hoodedice =| 02:54 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:54 hoodedice VanessaE: A few days back, Zane reported this new infringement - I think you've seen it 02:55 hoodedice http://www.globeminner.com/ 02:55 hoodedice This time, shit gets deeper. 02:55 hoodedice See the reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Globeminner-Windows-Vista-2014-version-Pc/dp/B00DBCGC9C 02:55 hoodedice https://www.facebook.com/globeminner 02:55 Exio4 Sakis25: thanks! 02:55 VanessaE yeah I saw it 02:56 hoodedice They even used a screenie of your test world as a CD cover 02:56 VanessaE my texture pack test track 02:56 VanessaE yep 02:56 VanessaE not that I mind THAT too much 02:56 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:56 VanessaE it is free to use 02:56 VanessaE but fuck, $15 for a free game? 02:56 VanessaE :P 02:56 hoodedice Yeah, but I'm feeling sad about those people who were ripped off 02:56 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:56 hoodedice I think it is high time we made an official post on this 02:57 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:57 Exio4 Sakis25: aren't you searching for the original game? 02:57 hoodedice What about Sakis25? 02:57 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:57 Exio4 exactly 02:57 Sakis25 [deleted] 02:58 hoodedice VanessaE, I said this when that buildcraft shit was going on http://www.flightgear.org/flightprosim.html 02:58 hoodedice This one open source game? 40 rip offs? 02:58 hoodedice What is it like, WTFPL? 02:58 hoodedice I say it again, we NEED an official statement. 02:59 ShadowNinja hoodedice: cos^6(x) is short for (cos(x))^6. 02:59 hoodedice Thank you ShadowNinja, I figured that out around 3 hours ago 02:59 hoodedice XD. 02:59 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:00 hoodedice I had forgotten to put a bracket somewhere, that's why the answer didn't went through =/ 03:00 hoodedice But yeah, thanks 03:00 Exio4 i don't know what flappy bird is :( 03:01 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:01 hoodedice People in the world are so jobless. 03:01 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:01 hoodedice No, we're sorry 03:01 hoodedice But I do know all my Greek letters! 03:01 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:02 hoodedice alpha, beta, gamma, delta... 03:02 hoodedice Nope. 03:02 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:02 VanessaE er, I though the the author took down flappy bird because it was basically ripping off Super Mario Bros? (and then got death threats for taking it down) or something? 03:02 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:03 hoodedice αβγθ 03:03 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:04 hoodedice VanessaE, you know pretty well that once something gets famous, people like to sue it just because 03:04 VanessaE yep 03:04 hoodedice Look at facebook 03:04 hoodedice Went big, BOOM 5 lawsuits 03:04 hoodedice What wouldv'e happened to this guy? 03:04 hoodedice That's why it is a good thing we are so underground 03:05 hoodedice Mojang doesn't care... yet 03:05 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:05 hoodedice And if they lawsuit us, or anyone else with similar gameplay now, they'll be in the same situation as King.com vs Runtastic Games Inc. 03:06 hoodedice aka Candy Crush zwizzing Saga vs CandySwpe 03:06 hoodedice *CandySwipe 03:06 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:06 hoodedice King.com tried to enforce trademarks on CandySwipe, but also on irrelevant games such as Banner Rush Saga 03:07 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:07 hoodedice The result? See the comment section for CandySwipe on the Play Store 03:07 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:08 hoodedice For Candy Crush? Yeah, I know 03:08 hoodedice But I'm just pointing out the trademark scuffle 03:08 hoodedice Another reason why I want minetest's name to be changed 03:08 hoodedice Sakis25, that GTA clone - you built it from scratch? 03:09 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:09 Megaf sfan5: Im compiling minetest on my odroid u3 right now 03:09 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:10 Megaf With LevelDB, LuaJIT, Gettext, Freetype 03:10 hoodedice See www.gritengine.com 03:10 Megaf fingers crossed 03:10 hoodedice android compiling 03:10 hoodedice Boss Detected 03:10 hoodedice Sakis25, heard of Gritengine? 03:11 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:11 hoodedice I was looking into it a while back - everything is written in lua 03:11 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:11 hoodedice You are on an IRC that belongs to a game engine -.- 03:11 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:12 hoodedice Sakis25, I *just* started my first semester in college with a CIS major 03:12 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:12 hoodedice ohkay... referee for? 03:12 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:12 hoodedice by prestotron and ragnar? 03:13 hoodedice I don't even. Are the three of you related? 03:13 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:14 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:14 hoodedice whole what> 03:14 hoodedice minetest? 03:14 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:14 hoodedice BAhahahaahhahaaha 03:14 hoodedice I found a new sig 03:14 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:14 hoodedice VanessaE! 03:15 hoodedice That 12 year old who couldn't even compile it? 03:15 hoodedice No wait. Not compile 03:15 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:15 hoodedice *download* it? 03:15 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:15 hoodedice I helped him for like 5 hours over downloading, installing and running minetest on ubuntu 03:16 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:16 hoodedice *facepalm* I remember - He was trying to cross compile to windows 03:16 hoodedice Ah yes, that 03:16 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:17 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:17 hoodedice html? 03:17 VanessaE hm? 03:17 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:17 hoodedice " Just prestotron7, he claimed to have made the whole game" 03:17 hoodedice Van, just don't fall off your chair while laughing 03:17 VanessaE wait a minute, which..... what? 03:18 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:18 hoodedice That guy couldn't even compile minetest for windows from *buntu 03:18 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:18 hoodedice OMG, what a day! 03:18 VanessaE oh G*d 03:19 hoodedice It is obvio not true lol 03:19 VanessaE well to be fair I can't compile for Windows either, BUT I've never tried either 03:19 VanessaE however, 03:19 VanessaE to claim he wrote the whole game? 03:19 VanessaE um, wut? 03:19 hoodedice I did once, with him - I failed. But since, I've been compiling every week 03:20 twoelk compiling for Windows? 03:20 hoodedice no, for xubuntu 03:20 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:21 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:22 hoodedice Never needed to - I give out sfan's latest build to my server clients and then build a minetest with matching version for the server on my machine 03:22 hoodedice us`0gb, you just missed something awesome 03:22 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:22 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:22 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:22 hoodedice Sakis25, wait for reply lol 03:23 us`0gb Aw. If I hadn't had client issues, I would have been here sooner. 03:23 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:23 twoelk not that anybody could confuse their quite distinct manners of talking 03:24 hoodedice celeron: Hey everyone, I changed the first page 03:24 hoodedice XD 03:24 hoodedice *CommunistCraft* 03:24 us`0gb I have a few disguises I like to use. None of them are Celeron though. 03:24 hoodedice I have a Celeron 03:24 hoodedice It's on my lap 03:24 hoodedice It also compiles Minetest in less than five minutes 03:25 us`0gb Yeah, mine's an X60 though, not a Celeron. 03:25 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:25 hoodedice Sakis, Crimelife3 is FOSS? 03:25 Megaf Yay, Just finished compiling minetest on my odroid u3 03:25 Megaf lets play 03:25 hoodedice Best of luck Megaf 03:25 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:26 hoodedice Titan. *faints* 03:26 * twoelk studies the first page of Minetest.net to see if hoodedice changed the Original author 03:26 * us`0gb tries to remember what channels he's usually on to join them, as he lost his channel list due to today's system installation 03:27 hoodedice twoelk -.- 03:27 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:27 us`0gb Is that a form of XML? 03:27 hoodedice Sorry, it was actually like this 03:28 hoodedice celeron55 : hey, i've got a new name for us: Communistcraft 03:28 us`0gb I know SGML, but not GML. 03:28 us`0gb We already used that name. It's not new. 03:28 hoodedice That too on minetest-dev 03:28 hoodedice And there I was, think -dev was all filled with C++ jargon 03:29 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:30 hoodedice !g GML 03:30 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_Markup_Language 03:30 hoodedice Doesn't look like that... 03:30 us`0gb Ah, got it. 03:30 Megaf !g XML 03:30 MinetestBot Megaf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML 03:30 Megaf !g Megaf 03:30 MinetestBot Megaf: http://megaf.di.univaq.it/ 03:31 Megaf not me 03:31 hoodedice Sakis25, did you not say that you hated game engines? 03:31 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:32 twoelk GML=MiddleLowgerman according to ISO 639-3 03:32 hoodedice Is GML not GameMaker? 03:32 twoelk among many other things 03:32 Megaf well, minetest client kinda works on ondroid 03:32 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:33 Megaf like 3 or 4 SPF (Second per Frame) 03:33 hoodedice SPF 03:33 hoodedice rofl 03:33 hoodedice Megaf, I'm (tm)ing it 03:34 Megaf :) 03:34 hoodedice How scratch, Sakis25. There has to be a C++ or some other independent code it has to plug into 03:34 hoodedice BTW, are your games FOSS? 03:34 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:35 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:35 hoodedice Well, meh then, can't do anything about it 03:35 hoodedice I'll just go back to setting up my minetest build 03:36 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:36 twoelk so Sakis25 you are not going to share youre gamebuilding experience by contributing to minetest? ;'-( 03:37 hoodedice Sakis25, I don't know much code yet. I'm doing a what can be called a pseudocode course (but is not really) in college and I can barely read lua 03:37 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:38 hoodedice The only reason I linger around FOSS games other than minetest and Flightgear is because I have a nice and easy way t understand how code works 03:38 hoodedice And I don't steal stuff. I'm not like that. 03:38 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:38 hoodedice How old are you now? 03:38 hoodedice lemme guess, 30? 03:38 NakedFury 12 years older 03:39 NakedFury :D 03:39 hoodedice 30. 03:39 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:39 hoodedice Close enough 03:39 hoodedice =P 03:39 Megaf my rollback.sqlite is huge 03:39 Megaf bigger than my map 03:39 hoodedice I'm like, just 18 03:39 Megaf is that a bug? 03:39 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:39 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:39 hoodedice Wow. 03:39 hoodedice Okay, I'm not 18 03:39 Megaf Ive done one game, once 03:40 hoodedice For all we know 03:40 hoodedice I'm not even hoodedice 03:40 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:40 VanessaE that isn't a bug, megaf, but if you find it getting too large you can delete it 03:40 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:40 notVanessaE See, I'm not hoodedice, and I'm not 18 03:40 VanessaE but bear in mind that doing so of course erases your rollback historyu 03:40 VanessaE -u 03:40 Megaf rollback.txt used to be much smaller 03:40 VanessaE no 03:40 VanessaE rollback.txt got used less. 03:40 notVanessaE I don't know that the derivative of x^6 is 6x^5 03:41 Megaf well, I need to go 03:41 notVanessaE I am not attending a Math Calculus course 03:41 VanessaE very finny, hoodedice. 03:41 Megaf cya 03:41 * Megaf will time out 03:41 VanessaE funny, too 03:41 Megaf good night 03:41 notVanessaE ShadowNinja did not help me out with a trigonometry doubt I had 03:42 notVanessaE And definitely, minecraft is better 03:42 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:43 twoelk better in freezing my systeme? 03:43 notVanessaE twoelk, sarcasm in progress 03:44 twoelk Minecraft= sarcasm in progress? 03:44 notVanessaE Oh, and this beard? It's fake. So fake I need to use a razor to *shave* it off 03:44 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:44 hoodedice *ahem* 03:46 twoelk actually I was visiting my sister lately and let myself be coaxed into building a house on the MC map of her friend 03:46 twoelk He was so proud of his map :-) 03:46 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:47 * twoelk visits the memories of his old MC map 03:47 twoelk ok I'll look it up , might have misspelled 03:47 hoodedice coaxed is right 03:48 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:48 hoodedice coax, pronounced co-ux. Forcing someone to do something 03:48 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:48 hoodedice no prob 03:49 twoelk yeah "persuade" may be similar 03:49 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:49 VanessaE coax is a synonym to persuade, not force 03:49 * twoelk was so proud to know such a nice word in his not native language :-( 03:50 VanessaE and usually implies the person being coaxed still has a choice. 03:50 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:50 hoodedice twoelk, Consider this: I have a map, but I don't know what mods it uses - How do I find that out BEFORE I start the game? 03:50 VanessaE hoodedice: you don't. 03:50 hoodedice yes, VanessaE - was about to mention that 03:50 hoodedice No way? darn 03:50 VanessaE you have to play it, look for unknown nodes 03:50 twoelk run the mapper and look what nodes it colors? 03:51 VanessaE have worldedit handy, use the `//inspect on` command to find out what they were 03:51 hoodedice Actually I still have a list of mods 03:51 VanessaE then install those mods 03:51 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:51 hoodedice Sakis25, you're not the first guy to do that 03:51 hoodedice Tell me it is not globeminner 03:51 twoelk there are and have been several of those around 03:52 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:52 hoodedice And the number of people duped... darn 03:52 hoodedice I'm not blaming you lol 03:52 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:52 hoodedice link? 03:52 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:52 twoelk niften+Prestotron=crevis 03:52 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:53 hoodedice ah 03:53 hoodedice Crevis 03:53 hoodedice Yup, Niften - that reminds me 03:53 hoodedice Niften and Pres were in it. 03:53 twoelk if it wasn't some shizophrenic game the two split over the project 03:53 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:54 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:54 twoelk can't remember them ever beeing on IRC at the same time 03:54 hoodedice They did 03:54 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:54 hoodedice Prestotron said he didn't like the 'others' anymore 03:55 hoodedice Some disagreement 03:55 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:55 hoodedice Then he wanted to work on Core devving 03:55 hoodedice the other devs for Crevis 03:55 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:56 hoodedice JORDACH!!! http://www.crevis.net/community.html 03:56 hoodedice Jordach's mdel OMG! 03:56 hoodedice *model 03:56 hoodedice Someone is gonna be pissed now 03:56 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:57 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:58 twoelk wonder whether that qualifies as "pissing on Jordach's lawn" (quoting an earlier statement of his) 03:58 hoodedice ~say Jordach: The guys at Crevis probably stole your model. Please check. http://www.crevis.net/community.html 03:58 ShadowBot hoodedice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 03:58 hoodedice ~say Jordach: The guys at Crevis probably stole your model. Please check. http://www.crevis.net/community.html 03:58 ShadowBot hoodedice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 03:59 Sakis25 [deleted] 03:59 hoodedice I blended with it think very morning 04:00 hoodedice *this 04:00 hoodedice Only the feet are different 04:00 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:01 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:01 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:01 hoodedice VanessaE, Does changing the source code's license affect a source code which had been distributed under LGPL? 04:01 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:01 hoodedice MC is no longer indie 04:02 VanessaE I don't know 04:02 hoodedice Still, we should be contacting GNU to deal with all these infringements 04:03 twoelk Sakis25: http://jordach.deviantart.com/gallery/ 04:04 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:05 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:05 hoodedice don''t bother 04:05 hoodedice I'm off to bed anyway 04:05 hoodedice "Compiling is so hard" 04:05 hoodedice #sarcasm 04:05 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:06 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:06 Sakis25 [deleted] 04:07 twoelk|2 eh? 04:08 twoelk|2 oh well goin to bed as well 04:08 twoelk|2 nick twoelk 04:11 Niften jordach 04:11 Niften is there a misunderstanding happening? 04:11 Niften I am free to explain where I got the rig 04:12 Niften ah 04:12 Niften he isn't on 04:12 Niften :l 04:17 hoodedice Niften 04:17 Niften The model, I know 04:17 Niften I didn't steal it 04:17 hoodedice hmm? 04:17 Niften I couldn't have; he didn't put it up for download 04:17 hoodedice He did 04:17 Niften Oh. 04:17 Niften Hoodedice 04:17 Niften That model isn't his 04:17 hoodedice How did you guess I got it? 04:17 Niften It's a minecraft model 04:17 hoodedice okay 04:17 Niften with a skin 04:18 hoodedice Just properly cite where you got it from 04:18 Niften I made that before I met jordach I think 04:18 Niften alright. 04:18 hoodedice And you're good to go 04:18 hoodedice About using the MT source code, I don't think you can change the license 04:18 hoodedice MT is LGPL 2 04:18 Niften hoodedice 04:19 hoodedice hmm? 04:19 Niften I quit using minetest, I'm working on a new game, and after that, redeveloping crevis with a custom engine 04:19 hoodedice Working on that 2D voxel one now? 04:19 Niften not exactly voxel 04:19 Niften it isn't block based 04:19 hoodedice Niften, I suggest you join minetest itself 04:19 Niften meh 04:20 hoodedice There is no need for differences really 04:20 Niften I am not experienced enough 04:20 hoodedice So what> 04:20 hoodedice Even I'm not 04:20 Niften What help would I be? 04:20 hoodedice Everyone learns 04:20 Niften true det 04:20 hoodedice Just do what I do for now. Fill out bug reports and help people 04:20 Niften hoodedice 04:20 hoodedice Make skins, textures. 04:20 Niften want me to upload the model to mediashare and send the link to you? 04:21 hoodedice uh no thanks 04:21 Niften what exactly do you need? 04:21 hoodedice If it's not Jordach's I don't care 04:21 Niften the link where I got it from? 04:21 hoodedice No. 04:21 Niften it isn't jordach's. 04:21 hoodedice What I'm saying is 04:21 Niften I was looking for c4d models on google and I found one. 04:22 hoodedice Check where you got that model from, and then it's license under which it is distributed 04:22 Niften I animated minecraft for a bit (2-3 months) then used it for 1 render 04:22 hoodedice And then *cite* the author. 04:22 hoodedice Then you got blender skills Niften 04:22 Niften not blender 04:22 Niften c4d 04:22 hoodedice !g c4d 04:22 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://www.maxon.net/ 04:23 Niften how.. 04:23 Niften !g c4d 04:23 MinetestBot Niften: http://www.maxon.net/ 04:23 hoodedice You *bought* C4D? 04:23 Niften yes 04:24 Niften I wish I could give you an updated pic of the game; i've *paused* crevis atm 04:24 hoodedice $3700 04:24 Niften mhm 04:24 Niften [8:04:14 PM] Preston Cammarata: Hey you little shit. Sakis25 messaged me saying you stole Jordach's model for Crevis? 04:24 hoodedice Sorry bout that. 04:24 Niften so desperate 04:25 hoodedice If you cite the original author, no one would pester you over shiz anymore 04:25 Niften he pesters me all the time 04:25 Niften pretending he's 19 04:25 Niften saying he develops games in a few hours 05:04 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Remove "Server -!- " prefix from player messages 9a3b7715e2 2014-02-26T21:00:22-08:00 http://git.io/3_mt4g 06:15 ShadowNinja XKCD #1337 is coming up... 06:29 sfan5 !tell john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/NKWGj9s.jpg 06:29 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, yeah 06:29 sfan5 !deop sfan5 08:04 RagnarLaud hia 08:04 RagnarLaud hai 08:04 RagnarLaud bai! 08:04 RagnarLaud !tell 08:04 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: Need a nickname... 08:06 RagnarLaud !tell hoodedice Hey, when you get this, then please post an update on the Pixel Bird thread. I have the external levels update at http://gnadev.tk/downloads/PixelBird_0.3.jar 08:06 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: I'll pass that on when hoodedice is around 08:06 RagnarLaud thanks MinetestBot 08:51 RagnarLaud hai 08:51 RagnarLaud !tell RagnarLaud hi 08:51 MinetestBot You can tell that to yourself 08:51 RagnarLaud !tell MinetestBot hi 08:51 MinetestBot I'm not dumb, you know? 08:51 RagnarLaud :D 08:56 RagnarLaud !tell asdfghj hellp 08:56 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: I'll pass that on when asdfghj is around 08:57 asdfghj sfan5, why doesnt MTBot work? 08:57 RagnarLaud c/clear 09:02 RagnarLaud !g zip bomb 09:02 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_bomb 09:22 RagnarLaud PixelBird update! 09:23 RagnarLaud !g pixelbird 09:23 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: https://www.facebook.com/pixelbird 11:29 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 12:45 sfan5 !tell RagnarLaud it only detects join and messages 12:45 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when RagnarLaud is around 13:08 sfan5 !tell john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/NCpnwbx.jpg 13:08 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever 13:08 sfan5 meow 13:08 sfan5 hi everyone BTW 13:10 reactor hell.o 13:23 hoodedice Hey 14:05 hoodedice MinetestBot! 14:05 MinetestBot hoodedice! 14:05 hoodedice okay. 14:06 hoodedice sfan5: MinetestBot failed to pass a message to me 14:06 sfan5 hm 14:07 hoodedice Anyway 14:10 Exio4 Anybody care to join two video files with libav? 14:10 Exio4 haha 14:12 hoodedice !tell RagnarLaud - We have been told that Pixel Bird is not your original work. You took the code and changed the overlying textures. At Minetest, we don't value liers and developers that copy code and that too without citation. On top of that you made another account just to circumvent a ban. 14:12 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when RagnarLaud is around 14:15 reactor Exio4: if you figure out how, let me know. 14:17 PenguinDad wtf is pixel bird? 14:18 Exio4 reactor: ffmpeg > libav 14:18 Exio4 :D 14:18 reactor ffmpeg should do the job yes. 14:19 reactor ...is it possible to cut videos not on keyframes? 14:21 sfan5 reactor: sure 14:22 reactor But how? 14:26 reactor ffmpeg -ss $STARTPOS -i "$FILE" -t $LENGTH -codec copy $OUT 14:26 reactor ^it only cuts on keyframes. 14:28 sfan5 reactor: if you want to cut at key-frames you need to re-encode 14:28 sfan5 try options like -vcodec libx264 -crf 22 -acodec copy 14:28 sfan5 s/try options like/try these options:/ 14:30 Exio4 I understand (and have seen) that libav/avconv does not support as many 14:30 Exio4 options as ffmpeg does and has many more bugs. 14:31 reactor Speaking of reencoding. 14:31 reactor Why does it change resolution? 14:31 reactor Is it possible to prevent it from mangling the video that way? 14:34 sfan5 reactor: it changes resolution? 14:34 sfan5 ffmpeg would not do that 14:35 reactor ...or wait a sec, was it the GUI-based editor I used last time I had to edit something... 14:35 reactor It probably passed some shit args to ffmpeg. 15:40 Krock HI 15:41 Krock [/caps off] 15:44 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: 02-27 14:12 UTC - We have been told that Pixel Bird is not your original work. You took the code and changed the overlying textures. At Minetest, we don't value liers and developers that copy code and that too without citation. On top of that you made another account just to circumvent a ban. 15:45 RagnarLaud so it does work :D 15:46 RagnarLaud us`0gb, do you know what hoodedice was talking about? 15:49 us`0gb RagnarLaud: hoodedice thinks you are not the one who coded Pixel Birds and that you only took credit for it. Also, hoodedice thinks you were banned under a different name. 15:50 RagnarLaud 1. I did make the game using a tutorial, but the one there has no resembelance to Pixel Bird 15:50 RagnarLaud 2. i just made a new account called Temp for Temporary because i wanted to upload a new version of PixelBird 15:52 RagnarLaud and im currently working on a patch for alpha 3 15:52 us`0gb hoodedice isn't on right now, so he/she can't read your defenses. 15:53 Jordach RUN. 15:53 RagnarLaud hi Jordach 15:53 RagnarLaud what now? 15:55 RagnarLaud Jordach, what's up? 15:56 RagnarLaud !tell hoodedice dood, i was the original creater of the game, all i did was watch a few tutorials on java game developing by Ryan van Zeben. But the game there has no resemblance to PixelBird 15:56 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: I'll pass that on when hoodedice is around 15:56 reactor creater 16:02 RagnarLaud what? 16:04 RagnarLaud ron, please give me +1 carma, i wanted to ++ myself and then i de-carmad myself :D 16:04 RagnarLaud oops :d 16:05 RagnarLaud wrong channel :D 16:05 Jordach fucking n00b 16:05 MinetestBot hoodedice: 02-27 15:56 UTC dood, i was the original creater of the game, all i did was watch a few tutorials on java game developing by Ryan van Zeben. But the game there has no resemblance to PixelBird 16:05 RagnarLaud LOL :D 16:05 hoodedice Thank you MinetestBot 16:06 hoodedice But I saw the logs, so yeah, useless. 16:06 RagnarLaud hoodedice, i AM the creator of PixelBird 16:06 RagnarLaud what? 16:13 sfan5 wat 16:13 sfan5 just wat 16:13 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=131314#p131314 16:13 sfan5 !title 16:13 MinetestBot sfan5: Have you ever noticed the swastika in jungle wood? (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetest Foru[...] 16:14 hoodedice wat indeed. 16:14 hoodedice kahrl^^ 16:15 RagnarLaud that's just mean 16:15 hoodedice RagnarLaud: edited 16:16 hoodedice Though it certainly was not offensive 16:16 RagnarLaud dood, that's just cruel :D 16:17 RagnarLaud btw, new post :D 16:17 RagnarLaud with a pun :D a Pun in PunBB :D 16:17 hoodedice sfan5: Ragnar got banned on the forums so he made an alt 16:17 sfan5 hoodedice: ik 16:17 sfan5 but I'm not sure if alt accs are forbidden 16:17 hoodedice Wow - lapse in the consttution I see 16:17 hoodedice It must be amended immediately! 16:18 hoodedice *constitution 16:18 RagnarLaud 1. you can ban Temp as soon as i get unbanned, im just using that to update PixelBird 16:18 RagnarLaud 2. You can ban it any time, if i break any rules :P 16:18 hoodedice Ragnar - That just undermines the purpose of a ban 16:18 hoodedice A ban is like a time out. 16:19 RagnarLaud i know, but i was very excited because of that update 16:19 RagnarLaud all of you have been waiting for it for a long time 16:19 hoodedice !tell Jordach: Are alternate accounts allowed? 16:19 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach: is around 16:19 RagnarLaud (two days) 16:19 Jordach OI 16:19 hoodedice Hi Jordy! 16:19 RagnarLaud hi Michael Jordach :'D 16:20 Jordach don't piss me off right now 16:20 RagnarLaud wasnt trying to 16:20 RagnarLaud O.O 16:20 Jordach i'm nearly there to inventing a a driver less 90 arm bend 16:20 RagnarLaud Good for you! :D 16:21 hoodedice !kick RagnarLaud *unauthorized use of sarcasm* 16:21 RagnarLaud who needed to authorize it? 16:21 hoodedice PilzAdam himself 16:22 RagnarLaud so the name PilzAdam (including parts of it) are copyrighted by him? 16:22 RagnarLaud nice :D 16:22 Jordach well fuck me 16:22 RagnarLaud !tell sfan5 hey, could you please make the ban last until the 2nd of March, because that's my 15th birthday then :) 16:22 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: yeah, sure, whatever 16:22 sfan5 no 16:22 MinetestBot sfan5: 02-27 16:22 UTC hey, could you please make the ban last until the 2nd of March, because that's my 15th birthday then :) 16:22 Jordach ^ clearly not giving a fuck 16:22 RagnarLaud what happened, Jordach? 16:22 reactor Sarcasm is a binary blob. 16:23 hoodedice dat^ 16:24 Exio4 we are not nazis 16:24 RagnarLaud hoodedice, it's not in the rules :P 16:24 Exio4 or, are we? 16:24 RagnarLaud that's what i told him 16:24 RagnarLaud no, im a white black guy 16:25 RagnarLaud 'cause youre so white and nerdy 16:25 Exio4 racist 16:25 hoodedice We are 16:25 hoodedice We hate Microsoft 16:25 hoodedice And Minecraft 16:25 RagnarLaud NOT minecraft 16:25 RagnarLaud think about it - No minecraft => No minetest 16:25 hoodedice In fact, we believe that anything that starts with M and has a c 16:25 hoodedice Should be subject to 'the final solution' 16:26 kahrl "music"? 16:26 RagnarLaud :D 16:26 hoodedice That too 16:26 RagnarLaud Michael Jackson? 16:26 RagnarLaud Michael Jordan? 16:26 hoodedice He's already passed the solution 16:26 reactor Machiavelli. 16:26 hoodedice !g Machiavelli 16:26 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli 16:26 RagnarLaud !tell hoodedice Vendetta, vendetta, vendetta, vendetta 16:26 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: yeah, sure, whatever 16:27 hoodedice Prolly dead 16:27 MinetestBot hoodedice: 02-27 16:26 UTC Vendetta, vendetta, vendetta, vendetta 16:27 hoodedice RagnarLaud: Don't abuse the bot. 16:27 RagnarLaud ok 16:27 reactor !tell MinetestBot !tell MinetestBot Test. 16:27 MinetestBot I'm not dumb, you know? 16:27 hoodedice Don't use tell when you know that the person is present 16:27 RagnarLaud i just wanted MTBot to announce revenge on you 16:27 RagnarLaud :D 16:27 hoodedice sfan5: kick RagnarLaud *bot abuse* 16:27 RagnarLaud please no 16:27 RagnarLaud <:'( 16:27 hoodedice Rules are Rules. Period. 16:28 sfan5 hoodedice: maybe 16:28 reactor What is RagnarLaud tryiong to achieve? 16:28 sfan5 !rand 0 1 16:28 MinetestBot 0 16:28 reactor s/io/i/ 16:28 sfan5 0 -> no 16:28 hoodedice You got lucky RagnarLaud 16:28 sfan5 lol 16:28 Jordach stfu 16:28 sfan5 Jordach: Y U NO USE !stfu ? 16:28 Jordach because a warning never works 16:28 hoodedice !stfu 16:28 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted. 16:29 hoodedice lol 16:29 Exio4 !gtfo 16:29 Exio4 :( 16:29 PenguinDad !rtfm 16:29 MinetestBot someone thinks you should read the manual. The wiki for dev related questions is at http://dev.minetest.net , the regular wiki is at http://wiki.minetest.net. 16:30 sfan5 !doge 16:30 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT 16:31 hoodedice !rickroll 16:31 hoodedice aw 16:31 hoodedice !doge 16:31 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT 16:31 hoodedice same thing? Bo-ring 16:31 hoodedice later peeps. 16:32 Exio4 we need a dogetip bot 16:33 sfan5 Exio4: can you read my thoughts? 16:34 Exio4 yes 16:34 Exio4 now you're thinking about rainbows and doges 16:34 sfan5 no rainbows 16:42 Exio4 sfan5, make fido get here 16:42 sfan5 fido? 16:43 Exio4 ... a dogetip bot that is used a hell lot? 16:43 sfan5 nah 16:43 MegafOdroidU3 Folks, I need a bunch of people on my server to strees it 16:43 MegafOdroidU3 Its an ARM server 16:43 MegafOdroidU3 2GB of Ram 16:43 MegafOdroidU3 1.7 GHz quad core 16:43 MegafOdroidU3 !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 16:43 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (1605ms) 16:44 MegafOdroidU3 so, should I crate or topic or somthing for that? 16:44 reactor MinetestBot: minetest --randominput 16:44 MegafOdroidU3 create* 16:44 sfan5 MegafOdroidU3: might be a good idea 16:45 sfan5 satisfied with your odroid u3? 16:45 sfan5 !doge 16:45 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT 16:45 sfan5 !doge 16:45 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT 16:45 sfan5 !doge 16:45 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT 16:45 sfan5 that is only three fucking times, ShadowBot 16:45 sfan5 !doge 16:45 sfan5 DOGE is at 0.00000199 BTC 16:45 sfan5 this is what it is supposed to do 16:46 sfan5 (with 50 percent chanche) 16:49 MegafOdroidU3 sfan5: Yes I am 16:49 MegafOdroidU3 it's really fast and responsive 16:50 MegafOdroidU3 Just a pain to get a proper Debian running on it 16:50 MegafOdroidU3 There's no official Debian for Odroids or any specific distro for it 16:50 MegafOdroidU3 as we do have for Raspberry Pi 16:51 MegafOdroidU3 sfan5: if I can get proper OpenGL on X11 on my odroid I might pretty well stop using my main desktop 16:52 MegafOdroidU3 Then I would just use it as a compiling server 16:57 sfan5 MegafOdroidU3: lubuntu (or was it xubuntu) should be fine too 16:57 Exio4 MegafOdroidU3: install debian 16:58 Exio4 just that 16:58 Exio4 debian has official support for ARM remember 16:58 MegafOdroidU3 Exio4: not for odroid 16:59 MegafOdroidU3 it perhaps would work headless 16:59 Exio4 what? 16:59 reactor biebian. 16:59 MegafOdroidU3 Exio4: its not as simples as a x86 pc 16:59 MegafOdroidU3 simple* 16:59 Exio4 i know it is arm 17:00 MegafOdroidU3 Yep, CPU is ARM, but it have to support all the other parts 17:00 Exio4 http://odroid.us/mediawiki/index.php?title=Debian_Wheezy_Instructions 17:00 MegafOdroidU3 sfan5: I'm not using Ubuntu, I rather use Windows Vista running on Microsoft Virtual PC on Windows ME ona Pentium II 17:01 MegafOdroidU3 Exio4: I know all the links you can find 17:01 MegafOdroidU3 that tutorial doesnt work 17:01 Exio4 what hapens? 17:01 Exio4 happens 17:01 MegafOdroidU3 its incomplete and outdated 17:02 MegafOdroidU3 I did the Debian chroot already, Im getting a kernel now 17:02 Exio4 so, try to complete it by logic 17:02 MegafOdroidU3 perhaps I will just get a compiled kernel from someone else 17:02 MegafOdroidU3 anyway, I have Debian Wheezy running on my Odroid already 17:23 PilzAdam topic of the day: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=131326#p131326 17:23 PilzAdam !title 17:23 MinetestBot PilzAdam: If Minetest Players of all when entering the Server one? (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetes[...] 17:25 Krock I want the bug report of the year 2014 back :( 17:25 Krock Well, that topic is good, too 17:27 Exio4 PilzAdam: what the ... 17:27 Exio4 fuck is that 17:30 * Jordach has developed an easier version of sharp bends 17:31 PilzAdam Jordach, If Blender users of all when entering the joint one? 17:32 Jordach PilzAdam, i found a way to do it WHICH WORKS IN MINETEST. 17:32 Jordach and my upgraded hat layer will contain perfect cubes :) 17:32 MegafOdroidU3 PilzAdam: I really don't understand what he is saying 17:36 Jordach Taoki, your model's bones suck 17:37 Jordach you parented the fucking legs to the upper body, causing a bug i found 17:38 Jordach there, removed the legs sliding backwards when standing still 17:40 Jordach even better 17:47 Jordach wtf did Taoki DO? 17:47 Jordach you didn't keyframe END EVENTS, which should have been done, like YONKS AGO? 17:48 Jordach so one frame Sam's legs are sitting, yet the body is clearly fucking walking 17:50 Jordach and while i'm here, i'll support the MINECRAFT CAPE FORMAT as a secondary material 17:50 Jordach so you can simply define the texture as; texture = {"character.png", "cape.png"}, 17:51 Jordach i'll have to include a nocape.png to stop it using the parent texture 17:56 Jordach hey rubenwardy 17:56 rubenwardy Hi all :P 17:57 PenguinDad !uudecode 12&5L;&\\@2$ 17:57 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Failed to handle data 17:57 Jordach celeron55_, dafuq you doing in here 17:59 celeron55_ Jordach: blatantly observing you 17:59 Jordach hah 17:59 Exio4 he is stalking us 18:00 celeron55 i also was in your room last week but you didn't notice! 18:00 Jordach celeron55, i never take any looks at the side bar 18:01 sfan5 !uuencode test 18:01 MinetestBot $=&5S= \n 18:01 sfan5 !uudecode $=&5S= 18:01 MinetestBot test 18:01 sfan5 hm 18:01 sfan5 PenguinDad: what are you trying to do? 18:03 PenguinDad !b16d 48656C6C6F20727562656E776172647921 18:03 MinetestBot Hello rubenwardy! 18:03 PenguinDad ^ this sfan5 18:03 sfan5 !uuencode Hello rubenwardy! 18:03 MinetestBot 12&5L;&\\@2$ \n 18:04 Jordach !uuencode !b16d 48656C6C6F20727562656E776172647921 18:04 MinetestBot H(6(Q-F0@-#@V-39#-D,V1C(P-S(W-38R-C4V132$ 18:04 MinetestBot sfan5: Failed to handle data 18:04 sfan5 ... 18:04 sfan5 ??? 18:04 Jordach !!decode H(6(Q-F0@-#@V-39#-D,V1C(P-S(W-38R-C4V13isFree()): goto 3; endif 18:09 rubenwardy Php is fun! 18:09 Exio4 sfan5, what? 18:09 Jordach you mean an infinite fractal of bad design, right? 18:09 Exio4 "conversion"? 18:09 rubenwardy :P 18:10 Exio4 sfan5, casting is "type-unsafe", if you want to free anything, you can 18:10 sfan5 the (fictional) compiler I use does it differently by default 18:13 Exio4 so you don't follow the standard 18:13 Taoki Jordach: I rigged the model the way I found appropriate to rig it 18:13 Jordach Taoki, well, i'm making it better to work with :) 18:14 Taoki The leg sliding problem was caused by keyframe interpolation. The model properly uses only a few keyframes 18:14 Jordach then you're doing it wrong :P 18:14 Jordach whole character keyframes are meant for that purpose 18:14 Taoki I believe I did it pretty right 18:15 Jordach Taoki, when i repaired the bones, most of your keyframes just went mad 18:16 Taoki What do you mean went mad? Let alone that I don't see what bones there were to repair 18:17 Jordach Taoki, having the arms angled meant they didn't rotate exactly on the x-axis, just like the MC version 18:17 Taoki Angled how? 18:17 Jordach they were more like /|\ than ||| 18:18 Taoki I don't believe I did them like that in the rest position 18:19 Taoki That also doesn't explain the keyframes "going mad". They stay in place unless someone moves them. If the in-between results are bad, that's the keyframe interpolation 18:19 Taoki Which I already suggested previously: Select all keys, press v, select "vector" interpolation\ 18:20 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/rkGBYHb.png 18:20 Jordach you did 18:22 Jordach (ignore the skin, was proving VE wrong as usual) 18:23 Taoki Ah. I didn't remember specifically, but if that's how they are in the current file on GIT than I did 18:23 Taoki Just select the ends of the bones and space them out evenly 18:23 sfan5 !hash ? 18:23 MinetestBot sfan5: Supported hash functions: sha1, sha224, sha384, sha256, sha512, md5 18:24 sfan5 !hash sha224 Minetest 18:24 MinetestBot 93da2bf94593f19fbbb8e279633399f9ade513032971140ff3b8ca36 18:24 sfan5 \o/ 18:24 Taoki That shouldn't change current animations either 18:24 rubenwardy What is the point of supporting that, sfan5? 18:24 sfan5 rubenwardy: dunno 18:24 rubenwardy uh 18:24 sfan5 but sha1 being useful is more likely than uudecode 18:25 Jordach Taoki, i've fixed all of that already 18:25 Taoki ok 18:25 sfan5 rubenwardy: why did you take so long to answer to my PM? 18:26 Taoki I'm not sure what you meant by "keyframe end events" either. I selected all bones, and inserted rotation at each step 18:26 rubenwardy I thought I did, but it didn't send 18:26 Taoki Maybe the X format uses them in a wrong way 18:26 rubenwardy That was before I got good internet 18:28 Jordach Taoki, your bone structure was mainly the cause 18:28 Taoki The bone structure was very simple 18:28 Jordach Taoki, the legs followed the main body when rotated 18:29 Taoki That's normal. The main body is the center bone 18:29 Jordach i added a positional bone to allow easier sneaking 18:29 Taoki ok 18:29 Jordach the only main difference is that the legs and arms aren't as dumb 18:29 * Jordach is also using Blender 2.62 18:30 Taoki 2.69 is latest stable version. Eager for 2.7 18:30 Jordach what's 2.7 got? 18:30 Jordach (i didn't check release notes) 18:31 Taoki Big performance improvements in Cycles, as well as volume support in Cycles. As the most important things... there are several other tweaks too 18:32 khonkhortisan cycles also does sphere cameras 18:32 Taoki Ah, cool 18:34 ShadowNinja There are half a dozen people in this channel guilty of bot abuse... 18:35 reactor No, there are a dozen bots that are guilty of being exploitable. 18:35 Taoki "Sign this petition. Let's act and end bot abuse on IRC!" 18:35 Taoki "Every day, 100 bots are abused by users. Next one could be your own!" 18:36 Calinou s/bots/ponies 18:36 ShadowNinja sfan5: I consider three times flooding. Especially since it was a bot command. 18:36 * sfan5 puts Derpy on Calinou's head 18:36 Calinou more than 4 lines is flooding 18:37 ShadowNinja 3*2=6 > 4 18:39 ShadowNinja Twice is OK, as it's often accidental. But there's not a good reason for saying the same thing three times. 18:40 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/listen/a7ojhv4552l2rzx/0000-0220.ogg Taoki 18:40 Jordach rendered out the animations 18:41 Jordach (the hat layer is a material trick i found :P) 18:41 Taoki Jordach: Yes. In Blender, animations aren't separated, they're all in order on the time line 18:42 Taoki That's because the X exporter, at least back then, needed them that way. In order for them to work in Irrlicht 18:42 Jordach Taoki, well, i don't like that idea :) 18:42 Taoki The Lua file defines each animation by frame randes 18:42 Jordach Taoki, wrong, i did it like that while the exporter was still shit 18:42 Taoki Jordach: Honestly? I don't either. But unless Irrlicht offers a better way, it's the way it works 18:42 Taoki I hated having to do them that way 18:42 Taoki Each animation should be a separate armature action 18:43 Taoki I THINK the X exporter now has an option to pile up all armature actions in aplhapetical order. You still need to guess the frame ranges for the player.lua file though 18:44 Jordach nah 18:44 Jordach then you'd have to redo the player.lua 18:44 Taoki Jordach: If you can, I indeed suggest moving each animation to its own armature action. That is the right way. But since only one action can be active at once, make sure to press the F button on them 18:44 Taoki It wouldn't be that hard 18:45 Taoki Just a few lines to change 18:45 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/download/pj0u1v89m3v6ijw/character.blend <- updated model 18:46 Taoki Looks good to me yes 18:46 sfan5 Jordach: use a different file hoster, mediafire's audio does not fucking work 18:48 sfan5 !btc 18:48 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 587.9800 $ 18:48 sfan5 ^ more useful stuff 18:52 ShadowNinja sfan5: Um, 587.98$? 18:52 sfan5 yes 18:52 twoelk !$ 18:53 twoelk !usd 18:54 twoelk ok any other conversions possibleß 18:54 twoelk -ß+? 18:54 sfan5 !btc ? 18:54 MinetestBot sfan5: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD 18:55 sfan5 ^ twoelk 18:55 twoelk !USD 18:55 sfan5 wat 18:55 sfan5 use !btc 18:56 twoelk ah 18:56 twoelk !btc EUR 18:56 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 428.3205 € 18:57 LforLeeeeeeeX hello 18:57 twoelk !btc 20EUR 18:57 MinetestBot twoelk: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD 18:57 twoelk :-( 18:57 LforLeeeeeeeX what wrong? 18:57 sfan5 it does plain 1 btc stuff 18:57 LforLeeeeeeeX Jordach 18:57 sfan5 !c 428.3205 / 20.0 18:57 MinetestBot 21.416024999999998 18:58 sfan5 ... 18:58 sfan5 nope that is not how you calculate it 18:58 twoelk can commands be combined? 18:58 sfan5 no 18:58 sfan5 well.. 18:58 sfan5 more like not 18:58 sfan5 yet 18:59 LforLeeeeeeeX sfan5 sorry to ask but can u give me the link to public server chat 18:59 sfan5 public server chat? 18:59 sfan5 what is that? 18:59 LforLeeeeeeeX yes 18:59 twoelk depends on what server 19:00 LforLeeeeeeeX vanessaes mostly vanilla minetest game 19:00 twoelk I think I have seen you on the inchra server network 19:00 twoelk oops 19:00 LforLeeeeeeeX what? 19:01 twoelk try isis.inchra.net 19:01 LforLeeeeeeeX the Kiwiirc is what i need 19:01 twoelk that is what VanessaE's servers use 19:01 LforLeeeeeeeX ok 19:02 twoelk https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.inchra.net:+6697/#minetest 19:02 twoelk not sure about that though 19:05 reactor No greetings for people eh? 19:06 twoelk hm something like nUSD=xEUR might be usefull: (!btc USD)*n/(!btc EUR) maybe? 19:08 twoelk oh hi ponies and reactors 19:08 reactor I am not a reactor, either. 19:09 twoelk you do react 19:10 reactor k. 19:10 reactor Oh well, yфu highlighted me, that's whц. 19:10 RBMK That should fix it. 19:11 twoelk ? 19:17 twoelk hard starboard, squid-squad from backboard at 9 19:19 twoelk ever seen asquid squad squatting onthe square? 19:21 twoelk rather nope.avi I bet 19:22 * sfan5 taps john_minetest 19:23 sfan5 oh god no: 19:23 sfan5 !tw https://twitter.com/Raspberry_Pi/status/439117635083448321 19:23 MinetestBot Free online course from @Oracle: develop Java apps using a Raspberry Pi. Starts March 31st - see https://blogs.oracle.com/java/entry/develop_java_applications_using_a for details. (@Raspberry_Pi) 19:24 sfan5 john_minetest: http://img.ed4.net/gsi_clubmonaco/2014/EMILYPRACTICE/images/kitten.jpg 19:24 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/foNWNCA.jpg 19:27 TheSwagBeast Hey. 19:27 TheSwagBeast Can I have some help installing a texture pack? 19:28 RBMK untar it in textures/ 19:28 EvergreenTree What about it do you need help with? 19:28 EvergreenTree Installing it in general? 19:28 TheSwagBeast I'm running Ubuntu 13.10. 19:28 TheSwagBeast And I've unzipped it. 19:28 EvergreenTree Okay 19:28 TheSwagBeast And I'm trying to get it into the Textures folder. 19:28 TheSwagBeast But it says I don't have the required permissions or w/e. 19:29 TheSwagBeast I am a root user though. 19:29 EvergreenTree where are you trying to put it? 19:29 EvergreenTree Give me the file path 19:29 RBMK TheSwagBeast: check permissions. 19:29 EvergreenTree If it's something like /usr/share/games/minetest/textures, I would suggest not putting it there 19:29 RBMK if the dir is cmod 000, no wonder. 19:29 TheSwagBeast Yeah that's the path. 19:29 EvergreenTree put it in /home/username/.minetest/textures 19:30 EvergreenTree not /usr/share/games/minetest/textures 19:30 EvergreenTree see if that helps 19:30 TheSwagBeast There is no .mintest in my area though? 19:30 EvergreenTree Also, mods go in /home/username/.minetest/mods 19:30 EvergreenTree Strange 19:30 RBMK so copy it all over to ~/.minetest 19:31 EvergreenTree RBMK: He just said he doesn 19:31 RBMK /usr/share/games/minetest is system-wide 19:31 EvergreenTree Are you using a user interface file manager? 19:31 EvergreenTree It's most likely nautilus 19:31 EvergreenTree press ctrl+h to see hidden folders 19:32 TheSwagBeast Ah okay. 19:32 EvergreenTree or ctrl+l to go to a specific path 19:32 TheSwagBeast Got it thank you. 19:32 EvergreenTree No problem 19:32 RBMK Oh, there we go. Badly written file managers confusing people. 19:32 EvergreenTree :-) 19:32 EvergreenTree lol 19:32 TheSwagBeast I only have cache/clients/worlds. 19:32 EvergreenTree try creating the textures folder 19:33 RBMK mkdit textures 19:33 RBMK s/dit/dir/ 19:33 EvergreenTree *mkdir 19:33 RBMK mkdirt, even 19:33 EvergreenTree lol 19:33 RBMK ...rmdirt should be more useful, though. 19:33 RBMK Because dirt accumulates on its own. 19:33 EvergreenTree just right click in the file manager and press new folder 19:33 EvergreenTree Some people aren't accustomed to the terminal 19:34 EvergreenTree Altough I do suggest you get used to it since you are using linux 19:34 TheSwagBeast I'm installing MineToon, and it comes in 3 folders. 19:34 TheSwagBeast I just put the folders in the Textures folder I made, and it doesn't appear in the mintest client. 19:36 EvergreenTree MineToon is outdated 19:36 EvergreenTree what version of minetest are you using? 19:36 EvergreenTree Did you install it via the software center? 19:37 TheSwagBeast Yes, but via the Updated Versions on launchpad. 19:38 EvergreenTree Do you know what version? 19:38 EvergreenTree it should be something like 0.4.5 or 0.3.2 19:39 TheSwagBeast 0.4.9 19:39 EvergreenTree hm 19:39 EvergreenTree that is the latest version 19:39 RBMK 0.3.2! 19:39 EvergreenTree minetoon comes in three folders? 19:39 TheSwagBeast Yup. 19:39 RBMK Are you studying for a degree in archaeology? 19:39 EvergreenTree Well, minetoon is out of date 19:39 EvergreenTree RBMK: plol 19:39 TheSwagBeast default, bucket and legacy 19:39 TheSwagBeast So is there no way of installing it? 19:40 EvergreenTree hm 19:40 EvergreenTree I'm not sure 19:40 EvergreenTree it wouldn't be a complete texture pack even if you installed it 19:40 TheSwagBeast Oh. 19:40 TheSwagBeast Meh, I'll find another one. 19:40 TheSwagBeast Thanks for the help. 19:40 EvergreenTree No problem 19:41 EvergreenTree use that information when installing other texture packs 19:41 RBMK Anyspacetime. 19:41 EvergreenTree also, mods go in .minetest/mods 19:45 twoelk hm, running MineToon 0.4 with a Minetest 0.4.9 version from 7th Jan 2014 works for me on Windows 19:46 twoelk probably download date not build 19:47 Jordach Minetoon itself is outdated 19:47 Jordach it uses the old style texture pack system, while the modern one is completely incompatible 19:47 twoelk may be so but should work anyways, which it does on my machine 19:48 twoelk oh, so maybe I changed it? Couldbe ;-) can't remember 19:49 * twoelk even has PencilTextures installed 19:51 EvergreenTree On a system wide installed minetest, where do I install games? I have always built minetest from source and never bothered doing a system wide install 19:52 twoelk where mods reside? 19:52 twoelk or better probably parallel to /mods 19:53 EvergreenTree o/ hoodedice 19:53 hoodedice \o 19:54 hoodedice I asked around about lua in my college library 19:54 Jordach and found fuck all? 19:55 hoodedice And found an online copy of Beginning Lua Programming by K Jung and A Brown 19:55 hoodedice I feel awesome 19:55 hoodedice Jordach: you need a chill pill 19:55 Jordach nah 19:56 hoodedice Chapter 19 is the best chapter 19:56 hoodedice "How to fit into the lua community" 19:57 proller eat half of brain? 19:57 codehero start counting at one 19:58 * Jordach just googles the epub torrent version for reading on the go 19:59 Jordach i often pay for shit, when it's usually good enough and they have an online store 20:00 Jordach btw, i resemble Sam II, http://i.imgur.com/wigWYDf.jpg 20:00 hoodedice Jordach: no. 20:01 hoodedice Leoneof: Make up your mind 20:01 Jordach hoodedice, the original inspiration was actually my long ass curly hair at the time 20:01 Jordach that's why it uses the hat layer 20:01 hoodedice Sam doesn't have a nose 20:01 hoodedice *ba dum tss* 20:01 Jordach hoodedice, hah 20:02 Jordach turns out i can directly upload to imgur from my tablet 20:02 Jordach saves ~8 mins of effort for doing this: take picture -> google drive them -> download on pc -> upload to imgur 20:03 hoodedice hoodedice: Take photo -> Automatically updated to google+ -> download -> link to imgur 20:03 hoodedice hoodedice: Take photo on laptop -> Upload to imgur 20:03 Jordach hoodedice, fucking google+ 20:04 hoodedice What is the "print" command in the minetest lua API 20:04 hoodedice Jordach: 20:04 hoodedice !stfu 20:04 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted. 20:05 hoodedice Well, you can't get muted though 20:05 * hoodedice leaves 20:06 RagnarLaud hoodedice 20:06 * hoodedice is not here 20:07 Jordach bullshit 20:07 Jordach /kick hoodedice 20:08 hoodedice lol 20:10 hoodedice !seen Niften 20:10 MinetestBot hoodedice: niften was last seen at 2014-02-27 04:25:27 UTC on #minetest 20:12 RagnarLaud !seen prestotron 20:12 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: Sorry, I haven't seen prestotron around. 20:13 RagnarLaud !seen Sakis25 20:13 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: sakis25 was last seen at 2014-02-27 04:06:59 UTC on #minetest 20:13 RagnarLaud !seen RagnarLaud 20:13 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: ragnarlaud was last seen at 2014-02-27 09:23:34 UTC on #minetest 20:14 EvergreenTree Don't abuse the bot 20:14 EvergreenTree do /query MinetestBot !command 20:14 pitriss omg that kid is spaming again:/ 20:15 RagnarLaud no, i was just trying to get the current time in UTC 20:15 RBMK RagnarLaud: pff. 20:15 RBMK man 1 date 20:16 EvergreenTree RagnarLaud: just look online or something 20:16 EvergreenTree that's not what MinetestBot is for 20:16 RagnarLaud i know now 20:16 EvergreenTree RagnarLaud: The point is that MinetestBot is not a clock 20:16 RagnarLaud i know 20:16 EvergreenTree okay 20:17 RBMK Consult your machine's clock eh? 20:17 RBMK Pretty much everyone's system keeps synced time. 20:17 RagnarLaud mine isnt the same 20:18 RBMK john_minetest: tell me more. 20:19 RBMK RagnarLaud: I suppose you don't know your timezone, or don't know the command to print the time in UTC/ 20:19 RBMK s/\//?/ 20:19 RagnarLaud its Eastern Central European Time or something like that 20:20 RBMK In what kind of wold do we live, people? People don't even know their TIMEZONE! 20:20 RBMK s/old/orld/ 20:20 RBMK Old. 20:20 hoodedice lol 20:21 RBMK That's something you should have learned by the time you entered elementary school! 20:21 RBMK What are you doing with computers? 20:25 RagnarLaud WTF?! 20:25 RagnarLaud every single god damn time 20:26 RagnarLaud ZEG! 20:26 RBMK Rather than cursing at people quitting and joining, read the "date" command's manual. 20:27 Zeg9 It says "sudo date -s 00:00" to read the clock 20:28 fireglow I can't take this any more 20:28 hoodedice eh? 20:28 hoodedice lol 20:29 * RBMK rolls eyes. 20:30 twoelk http://flash-clocks.com/documents/world-clock.html I often use the portable version of this 20:43 MegafOdroidU3 !seen Gronx 20:43 MinetestBot MegafOdroidU3: gronx was last seen at 2013-12-27 17:26:39 UTC on #minetest 21:09 hoodedice Is there an output command in minetest for debugging mods? 21:10 sfan5 what do you want to debug? 21:12 hoodedice Something. Just want to output a Hello World 21:12 hoodedice print doesn't do anything 21:12 hoodedice *Nothing 21:14 Jordach hoodedice, minetest.debug("string") 21:14 Jordach or minetest.debug(variable) 21:14 Jordach and so on 21:14 Jordach minetest.debug is print essentially 21:14 hoodedice So, the output goes in debug.txt? 21:15 hoodedice Thanks 21:15 Jordach and the console 21:15 Jordach (eg, ./minetest in a terminal or the one that spawns with windows) 21:17 Jordach and yes, i think mod development is better on win systems 21:17 * twoelk raises an eyebrow 21:18 hoodedice Jordach: I'm forced to use Windows because crappy WiFi drivers 21:18 Zeg9 :) 21:19 hoodedice But Xubuntu is like, 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 21:19 hoodedice times better for mod development 21:19 hoodedice My finger had a weird spasm just now 21:19 twoelk I'm forced to use Windows because the windows CAD machine at work is so cool and I can use it after hours 21:20 twoelk oops and I broke my Linux setup at home with last update 21:21 Jordach hey Zeg9 21:22 Zeg9 Hi Jordach 21:22 hoodedice I think I'm going to install one of the mob mods this weekend and try to play survival 21:22 * Jordach installs the debug.apk from stu 21:22 Zeg9 I tried it... the menu is bigger than my phone's screen :D 21:22 hoodedice Because the only thing I liked in MC was the survival - It was actually relevant. 21:22 Jordach Zeg9, bull 21:23 Jordach my tablet is 9'' and the resolution is no bigger than the iPhone 3GS 21:23 specing hoodedice: Dude 21:23 RBMK ...are mobs still expensive processing-wise? 21:23 Jordach YUP 21:23 specing hoodedice: Gentoo is like, 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 21:23 Zeg9 Still I could manage to connect to a server, but it crashed. I am too lazy to see how to debug this 21:23 RBMK Would running that on a timesharing system invalidate it for other work? 21:24 hoodedice RBMK: they have improved considerably 21:24 twoelk in varying degrees 21:24 Jordach RBMK, probably 21:24 hoodedice I had like, 15 of stu's mobs roaming around, and a huge pointless mesecon circuit 21:24 twoelk bees are fine but I guess they don't count 21:25 hoodedice I didn't feel any lag 21:25 Jordach fal 21:25 Jordach fail 21:25 Jordach tablet just froze :P 21:25 hoodedice And then this guy from Europe joined (I'm in the US) 21:25 hoodedice BAM. Unplayable lag. 21:25 RBMK But how? 21:26 RBMK Lag shouldn't cause CPU load. 21:26 RBMK It should merely be lag on his side. 21:26 twoelk those intelligence services sometimes do take much of the transatlantic bandwidth 21:27 hoodedice twoelk: If I could 21:27 hoodedice I wouldv'e given you a pat on the back through the interwebz 21:27 twoelk well if more players join the server has to serve more chunks 21:28 twoelk and calculate more mobs and so on 21:28 RBMK ...are mobs only processed in chunks seen by players? 21:28 hoodedice probably yes 21:28 RBMK good 21:28 twoelk yes most despawn if not loaded 21:29 hoodedice I've seen stu's mobs just sitting down when I go away and come back 21:29 RBMK Hmm, but that'd make them disappear. 21:29 hoodedice RBMK: If they didn't depawn, they spawned more 21:29 hoodedice There was this entity duplication bug a while back - fixed now 21:30 hoodedice in 0.4.8 I think 21:30 twoelk actually considering old issues on some servers they might not despawn enough 21:30 RBMK possible memory exhaustion? 21:30 * twoelk types too slow 21:30 hoodedice I never had memory leaks till now 21:30 RBMK Speaking of vulnerabilities. 21:31 RBMK Has anyone tested MT servers for that? 21:31 hoodedice There are a lot 21:31 hoodedice Ask peacock 21:31 hoodedice PilzAdam: Your cart code is all over the place 21:33 twoelk and it struggles with areas protection 21:33 Zeg9 What does [spoiler=a\nb][/spoiler] actually do? 21:33 Jordach Zeg9, in a sig, it makes the page completely unusuable 21:34 Zeg9 sounds fun 21:35 twoelk considering "unusuable...fun", anyone ever build a "Useless Machine" in Minetest? 21:35 hoodedice Lemme build a useless button 21:36 RBMK twoelk: connect NOT gate to itself. 21:36 twoelk the mechanical part might be tricky 21:36 twoelk RBMK: but does that look interesting? 21:37 RBMK That has interesting effects. 21:37 hoodedice NOT to NOT 21:37 hoodedice hmm 21:38 RBMK I think a sanity check should be introduced, to prevent excess processing. 21:38 hoodedice Wait, what was the NOT gate again? 21:38 Jordach fun fact: before redstone repeaters and mesecon delayers, i had to use two not gates to slow down the signal 21:38 hoodedice ah 21:38 RBMK Because it causes the gate to change its state constantly. 21:39 hoodedice Jordach: How did you then get the signal out of the loop? 21:39 Jordach hoodedice, --[not]--[not]-- 21:39 Jordach don't put them in that loop 21:39 hoodedice oh 21:39 Jordach just feed a not ouput into another not gate 21:39 hoodedice Was there really a significant delay? 21:39 Jordach YES 21:39 Jordach usually .3 seconds 21:40 Jordach and 1.4 for minetest 21:40 hoodedice =) 21:40 hoodedice Is there a way to change yaw in minetest from the modding side? 21:41 Jordach i think so, not sure on that (i know FOV is) 21:41 Jordach actually, yes 21:41 Jordach player:set_yaw() 21:41 Jordach afaik 21:41 hoodedice !g player:set_yaw minetest 21:41 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://dev.minetest.net/LuaEntitySAO 21:42 hoodedice Is player also LuaEntity? 21:42 hoodedice "These are non-player moving things in the game" 21:42 hoodedice Nope, 21:43 twoelk isn't every none node/nodebox an entity? 21:43 hoodedice Found it. Thanks Jordach 21:43 hoodedice No, it's not, I guess 21:48 twoelk hm so player is an object but if I look at other players I Thought they should be entities for me but then it says "Note that all ObjectRefs except player are actually LuaEntitySAO. " 21:48 RBMK Objectifying people. 21:48 hoodedice How do I input radians into this? 21:48 hoodedice Do I write pi 21:48 hoodedice or consider that whatever I write will be multiplied by pi 21:49 Jordach hoodedice, yaw is from 0 = north to 360 21:49 hoodedice hrm yes 21:49 hoodedice But won't 90 be degrees? 21:49 hoodedice set_look_yaw(radians) 21:50 hoodedice so (pi/2) 21:50 hoodedice I feel awkward 21:50 the_object_twoel ? 21:50 hoodedice nvm, I'll try 90 21:50 hoodedice *Insert insanity wolf* 21:51 theObjectTwoelk a wolf would be a LuaEntitySAO 21:52 hoodedice Hmm, it didn't output an error... 21:53 hoodedice CRASHED!!! 21:53 hoodedice IT WORKS! 21:53 hoodedice MY CODE FREAKING WORKS! 21:54 hoodedice Now to rewrite PilzAdam's Carts mod. From scratch 21:55 theObjectTwoelk remember to study the new character model to fit the animations better 21:55 hoodedice later 21:56 theObjectTwoelk actually the most annoying might be when client side movement prediction doesn't match what the server calculates 21:57 theObjectTwoelk somehow the server actually looses trace of the carts somewhere along the lines of that 22:04 Jordach i fucking suck at happy wheels 22:04 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/edqyzvx.png 22:20 Jordach w00t 22:21 Jordach found a usb kb for my tablet 22:22 Jordach btw, stus client responds to keyboard and mouse when attached to android 22:25 Jordach so with a tablet, its possible to minetest using android just like a pc user 23:32 MegafOdroidU3 Hi all 23:33 MegafOdroidU3 VanessaE: Are you there 23:33 MegafOdroidU3 ? 23:36 VanessaE no] 23:36 VanessaE :P