Time Nick Message 00:04 ShadowNinja https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Be72GYUCYAAM7Vq.png:large 00:11 PinkSquirrel Oh, my. That would be *way* above my pay grade, ShadowNinja. 00:13 ShadowNinja Hehe. 00:28 PilzAdam_ bye 00:30 * VanessaE looks at ShadowNinja's link .... and goes completely cross-eyed. 01:13 hoodedice Is the madness over? 01:14 hoodedice us_0gb: 01:14 hoodedice Hi 01:16 ShadowNinja hoodedice: Nope, not yet. 01:25 us_0gb Why am I us_0gb again? I'm supposed to be Pink Squirrel. 03:02 eraldev hi 03:02 eraldev sorry 03:38 Gatharoth Ello all 06:29 Adarqet-Doge VE-Minetest: players 06:31 LazyJ Sokomine, have you heard any players complaining about their inventories being "rolled back" or reset after upgrading to Minetest 0.4.9? 06:35 * LazyJ is away: I'm away 06:39 * LazyJ is back (gone 00:03:50) 06:40 LazyJ Ugh... I forgot to shut that off. 06:43 ShadowNinja ~tell LazyJ I haven't. Inventories weren't changed much (at all?) in 0.4.9. 06:43 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K. 07:42 Hirato_ scumbag shadowbot doesn't pass the message to LazyJ 07:42 Hirato_ assuming it does that in the channel 07:43 LazyJ I received a pm from shadowbot / shadowninja saying that the player files hadn't changed much (if at all) in MT049. 07:43 Hirato_ :o 07:44 LazyJ So it may very well be a gremlin unique to our server now. 07:44 ShadowNinja Hirato_: ShadowBot uses PMs, intentionally. 07:44 LazyJ It just started happening after the upgrade to MT049 last weekend. 07:46 LazyJ Nothing unusual in the logs to indicate what may be causing it. No new mods have been installed. The players affected don't seem to have anything in common, as far as we know atm. 07:47 Hirato_ were they playing before the upgrade? 07:48 Hirato_ as in, hours or minutes before 07:49 LazyJ The server was shutdown for several hours during the upgrade (clearobjects was run first, taking up most of the time). 07:49 LazyJ The players may have been in-game when the server shutdown for it's nightly backup routine. 07:49 LazyJ But that hasn't been a problem before. 07:50 Hirato_ I'm just suggesting that maybe the server was killed before it had a change to write their inventories 07:51 LazyJ The problem showed up about a week after the upgrade. So they have been playing as usual. 07:52 LazyJ These are regular players, so they aren't just some fly-through, players kvetching. 07:53 LazyJ I've loaded my empty inventory slots with wooden swords (something I wouldn't ever need or use - an odd-ball item that I will notice) and will wait to see what happens after tonight's backup. 07:53 LazyJ As a test to see if the gremlin affects my player file. 07:56 LazyJ I checked the logs and the server didn't crash during the time their inventories were changed. 07:57 LazyJ Trying to figure out what was happening through a process of elimination. 10:17 webdesigner97 hi 11:33 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:56 RagnarLaud hi doods 12:06 RagnarLaud crap, i logged into my website from another IP address, and like it had to, it didn't let me in and sent me an email :D 12:07 * Jordach just adblocked an adblock disable notification 12:07 Jordach +please 12:07 RagnarLaud xD 12:07 Krock2 +1 12:13 markveidemanis Hi 12:13 markveidemanis http://static.squarespace.com/static/521b849de4b08ade07855358/521e3645e4b0e5f4920744e5/521e365ae4b0c4c442a0d75e/1377711926162/Paul-Nicklen-Leopard-Seal-006.jpg?format=1500w 12:13 markveidemanis :( 12:18 * Krock checks if the name is now correct 12:23 Jordach plol some random C# app works in WINE 12:33 * sfan5 gives Jordach a kitten 12:34 markveidemanis Hmm... 12:34 markveidemanis Is my hostname my ip? 12:35 markveidemanis host86-131-41-15.range86-131.btcentralplus.com == 86.131.41.15? 12:35 markveidemanis COuld it be useful? 12:37 Jordach no shit 14:19 sirdigby hello 14:22 sfan5 hello 14:23 sfan5 !deop ShadowNinja sfan5 14:23 sfan5 MinetestBot! 14:23 sfan5 ... 14:24 sfan5 MinetestBot! 14:24 MinetestBot sfan5! 14:25 sfan5 !deop ShadowNinja sfan5 14:25 sfan5 ??? 14:25 sirdigby lol 14:26 PenguinDad hello MinetestBot 14:26 MinetestBot sup PenguinDad 14:29 harrison do not anger Torpo the Sluggish 14:29 harrison for while he is slow to wrath 14:29 harrison once angered 14:29 harrison he is still sluggish 15:07 hoodedice Jordach! 15:07 Jordach yes 15:07 hoodedice How do I change the eye colour in the model? 15:08 Jordach hoodedice, click the body 15:08 Jordach look at the red and white checkered tab 15:09 Jordach (should be under the outliner) 15:09 Jordach there are actual limits with my skin, however 15:09 Jordach model* 15:11 hoodedice ? 15:12 Jordach the problem is it only supports skins that use the eye positions of Sam II 15:14 hoodedice http://i.imgur.com/Sm65hZR.png 15:14 hoodedice I'm using mcskin3d to make my skin... 15:14 hoodedice ^That is incomplete, was just testing 15:14 Jordach +1 for MCSkin3d 15:15 Jordach get a copy of Sam II 15:15 hoodedice But looks zwizzing creepy 15:15 Jordach and keep the eyes in the same place 15:15 Jordach (you can also use char.png / steve.png) 15:24 Jordach ello hoodedice 15:24 hoodedice The only problem with IE 11 with Windows 8.1 touch 15:24 hoodedice Pages are not kept active 15:26 Jordach MMM? 15:27 Jordach oh 15:27 Jordach get Firefox or CHrome 15:29 Jordach something i didn't know, spotify uses Lua 15:31 hoodedice I'm on firefox atm 15:31 hoodedice brb 15:31 reactor People still use IE? 15:31 reactor What a ridicule of a world is ours! 15:33 sirdigby nubs 15:33 hoodedice Because it has gestures 15:33 Exio4 some people still uses windows too 15:33 Exio4 also 15:33 hoodedice And browsing some sites are actually faster 15:33 Exio4 someone asked for ardour in his widnows 15:33 hoodedice And Exio4 still plays minecraft 15:33 reactor Exio4: yeah :( 15:33 Exio4 windows* 15:33 * hoodedice flies away 15:34 Exio4 hoodedice: yeah, sad, no? 15:37 * Jordach starts singing to http://open.spotify.com/track/7Az9kfq4JLD8auD1xoErrP / spotify:track:7Az9kfq4JLD8auD1xoErrP 15:46 Jordach moon looks good, lighthouse doesnt 15:50 hoodedice Now I get it lol 15:57 hoodedice Jordach: Should the grid size be the same too? 15:57 hoodedice Because mine has more detail 15:58 Jordach ?/// 15:58 Jordach pics 15:59 * Jordach pokes Gatharoth 15:59 Jordach hoodedice, the eyes should be in the same place as Sam IIs 16:00 hoodedice http://i.imgur.com/ljr8PV3.png 16:00 hoodedice WIP 16:01 Jordach hoodedice, idk 16:01 hoodedice k 16:01 hoodedice Now if I only had a way to overlay the two images... 16:02 hoodedice TADA, Paint.net 16:02 Jordach Y U NO GIMP 16:02 hoodedice Because windows 16:02 hoodedice And because it is lighter 16:03 hoodedice And because I don't need all those extra features 16:06 hoodedice -.- 16:06 markveidemanis SO hostname works as constant domain? 16:07 hoodedice I don't use windows because extra features - Because I have one pen drive, used for its recovery 16:07 hoodedice And I don't have another to install Xubuntu 16:12 hoodedice I get it, eyes are slightly above SAM's 16:12 hoodedice Jordach, why did you smooth sam? 16:13 Jordach noise looks LIKE SHIT when the arms bend at 90 degrees 16:18 hoodedice Jordach: I'm getting better at it lol http://i.imgur.com/Vy2oZkA.png 16:20 hoodedice Rendering mode in vieport shading is so shitty 16:21 hoodedice Jordach, Sam2 has these white squares in his eyes - but only the blue is rendered? 16:24 hoodedice enough blending for the day - *goes back t texturing* 16:24 Jordach hoodedice, interpolation 16:24 hoodedice !g interpolation 16:24 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpolation 16:24 hoodedice Thank you MinetestBot 16:26 rubenwardy Hi all 16:26 rubenwardy Hi all 16:28 hoodedice Hey hmmmm, rubenwardy 16:28 PenguinDad !uudecode .2&D@2$ \n 16:28 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Failed to handle data 16:29 PenguinDad hi rubenwardy 16:29 hoodedice rubenwardy: That moment when n00bs attempt to blender render: http://i.imgur.com/Vy2oZkA.png 16:31 Jordach lol PenguinDad 16:48 pitriss Hi, I wanted to ask.. Is possible to write from mod directly into remote mysql DB? Luajit is used on that server.. 17:30 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix test for broken LuaJIT versions, solves #1152 f6232d71b6 2014-02-23T09:30:45-08:00 http://git.io/cFFJxg 17:38 hoodedice Calinou! 17:38 hoodedice How does your wd mod work? 17:39 sfan5 hoodedice: it dw's wds until wd dw multiple wds 17:39 Calinou wd? 17:39 hoodedice ... 17:40 hoodedice I forgot it's name - The one that imports we schems into one world 17:40 Jordach worldedit? 17:40 Jordach you should be asking sfan5 on that, not me 17:40 sfan5 weblock? 17:40 hoodedice Oh wait 17:41 Calinou its* 17:41 Calinou also I didn't make WorldEdit 17:41 Calinou Jordach, weboob! 17:41 hoodedice lol, it wasn't calinou, someone else with a similar name 17:41 sfan5 cisoun? 17:41 hoodedice But who was it - I can't find te topic now 17:41 hoodedice Could be 17:41 sfan5 !g worldedit import world mod site:forum.minetest.net 17:41 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=572 17:41 sfan5 nope 17:41 hoodedice No not cisoun 17:41 sfan5 that's the WE topic 17:42 sfan5 I know it by ID :P 17:42 hoodedice *facepalm* I am so stupid XD 17:42 hoodedice CASIMIR! 17:42 hoodedice Found it: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8461 17:43 hoodedice Yeah, so anyone has any idea how ^ works? 17:45 hoodedice okay, what I really want to know is: When you import a we schem into your own world, is it imported as a set of blocks or as one huge block? 17:45 Jordach set of blocks 17:45 hoodedice And if the we shem is later deleted from this wd folder, will it still exist in that world? 17:46 Jordach yes 17:46 Gatharoth Ello ll 17:46 Gatharoth all* 17:46 Jordach Gatharoth, i remember playing on your server back in Jan 2012 17:46 hoodedice Hi 17:46 hoodedice So once I import, then the set of blocks in my map are no longer dependent on the .we schems 17:46 Gatharoth Haha, yeah, it's been almost 2 years since I've been around 17:46 Jordach yup 17:46 hoodedice k, thanks Jordach 17:47 hoodedice Calinou: much hate? "Link shorteners are discouraged for URLs that are not long." 17:48 Calinou where did you see an URL shortener? 17:49 hoodedice go again? 17:50 hoodedice Jordach, Mc3dskinthingy has this hotkey cut called animate 17:50 hoodedice But it doesn't work 17:50 hoodedice *keyboard shortcut 17:54 Hiradur hey, what performance should I expect on VanessaE's Survival Server with an Intel i5 4570? Because I mostly get <30fps and one core is maxed out all the time. Is this normal? 17:56 hoodedice Hiradur, try decreasing your minimum view range 17:57 hoodedice And yes, it could be very well normal - I've heard there's some serious architecture on it 17:57 EvergreenTree o/ 17:58 EvergreenTree My desktop is working again 17:58 EvergreenTree :D 17:58 Hiradur viewing_range_nodes_min = 35 17:58 Hiradur viewing_range_nodes_max = 160 this? 17:58 hoodedice EvergreenTree: What happens when you mix n00bs and Jordach's awesome blender skills? 17:58 EvergreenTree what? 17:58 hoodedice This happens: http://i.imgur.com/Vy2oZkA.png 17:58 EvergreenTree lol 17:58 hoodedice ninja'd XD 17:59 hoodedice Possibly, Hiradur - Apart from that you can also press - ingame 17:59 hoodedice - 17:59 Hiradur will try that, thanks 17:59 hoodedice First attempt http://i.imgur.com/Sm65hZR.png 17:59 hoodedice I got scared like shiz 18:00 EvergreenTree lol wow 18:00 EvergreenTree Jordach: is online I think 18:00 EvergreenTree he can help you 18:00 hoodedice I did have a 30 minute session this morning 18:00 Jordach meow 18:01 hoodedice That improvement was due to him 18:04 Hiradur hoodedice: I tried it and it increases fps by 10 at minimum view distance. Still not sure if this is right. I also experience heavy lag (over 1 second) on every server I tried so far. 18:05 hoodedice Lag is largely based on how many people connect and from where they connect 18:05 hoodedice But then again, everything is ambigious 18:06 hoodedice I had one Canadian and one Israeli connect on my East US server - No lag for anyone 18:06 hoodedice then one Canadian, and two Europeans - Heavy lag for everyone 18:06 Hiradur But it is the same for all servers. I'm from germany and connected to a german server and lag was still the same 18:07 hoodedice What's your net speed? 18:07 Hiradur 16k down, 1.2k up 18:07 hoodedice Well, that is slow -/ 18:07 puhfa other servers having recently issues too? i was wondering if the irc mod has anything to do with it 18:08 hoodedice =/ 18:08 puhfa what with the ddossing of freenode and all 18:08 puhfa dunno bout the bot but it might cause holdup when its trying to reconnect 18:08 Hiradur But its pretty much average in germany. Probably above average. 18:09 hoodedice It's 4.3 Mbps 18:10 hoodedice avg in Germany 18:10 Hiradur with 16k I mean 16 mbits 18:10 hoodedice *confused* 18:10 Hiradur sorry ;) 18:10 * hoodedice jumps off building 18:10 hoodedice sfan5! 18:11 * sfan5 gives hoodedice a kitten 18:11 hoodedice sfan5: world average is 5 mbps - Does hiradur have higher or lower speed? 18:12 hoodedice hiradur: windows? 18:12 sfan5 hoodedice: 16 Mb/s > 5 Mb/s 18:12 Hiradur windows 8.1 x64, I also tried a lot of builds already, x32/x64 stable/dev 18:13 hoodedice hmm, weird stuff is happening... 18:13 hoodedice Abandon planet! 18:14 hoodedice Hiradur: while Windows 8.1 is also great, a linux distro gives you upto a 15 fps boost 18:14 hoodedice *proper linux distro 18:15 hoodedice use x32 as there is no real difference in performance with x64 18:15 Hiradur yeah, actually I'm going to change to Linux soon. Windows 8.1 isn't exactly great. I'm just waiting for the next Linux Mint LTS. 18:15 sfan5 hoodedice: wrong 18:15 sfan5 x6 18:15 hoodedice "Windows 8.1 isn't exactly great" 18:15 sfan5 x64 over x32 usually makes a differene 18:15 * hoodedice jumps off building 18:15 * sfan5 taps hoodedice 18:16 hoodedice sfan5: citation: PilzAdam 18:16 * sfan5 taps hoodedice's citation 18:16 hoodedice But, PilzAdam! 18:16 * sfan5 taps PilzAdam 18:17 PilzAdam if someone pings me again Ill kick 18:17 hoodedice PlzAdam 18:17 PenguinDad lol 18:17 Hiradur Weird thing is that Minecraft runs with >200fps on my machine. But I recently discovered Minetest and I really like it. 18:18 hoodedice MC is a finised game - Don't expect the same from MT as yet 18:18 hoodedice Unless you're on linux 18:18 Hiradur I like its rough edges 18:19 sfan5 Hiradur: have you taken a look at mods? 18:20 Hiradur Yeah, that is what I like the most about it. Also that it is very convenient to join a modded server. 18:21 Hiradur Great job you guys have done so far. 18:21 hoodedice *sob* 18:21 Hiradur If only the performance was better on my machine. But maybe Linux is the solution, Windows 8.1 really is sloppy at some things 18:22 hoodedice "Windows 8.1 really is sloppy at some things" 18:22 * hoodedice sets himself on fire 18:23 Hiradur I always was kind of a Windows fan since XP. I knew every tweak and stuff. But Windows 8.1 really drives me nuts. Usability and compatibility are crap. I got 7 bluescreens so far, something I haven't seen for years 18:24 specing lol 18:24 * sfan5 can confirm bluescreens and shitty usability 18:24 sfan5 MS is trying to mix tablet os and desktop os 18:24 hoodedice Why am I the only one to like 8,1 18:24 sfan5 you even have 2 different control panels with overlapping & unique functions 18:25 * specing is a Linux fan since Suse Enterprise Linux in 2000 or so 18:25 hoodedice And like 0 bluescreens till now?! 18:25 hoodedice And that too on a crappy TOSHIBA?! 18:26 Hiradur fun fact: While my laptop runs with Windows 8 I can not upgrade to Windows 8.1 because installation always ends with a bluescreen 18:26 hoodedice 8 is crap. 18:27 hoodedice Hiradur, try resetting and re updating 18:27 Hiradur I tried a fresh install from a USB Stick 18:28 Calinou MC is a finised game - Don't expect the same from MT as yet 18:29 Calinou MC isn't "finished" 18:29 hoodedice derp 18:29 Calinou also Minetest is pretty usable and playable. 18:29 hoodedice It is, but just don't expect this to be MC - was what I was trying to say 18:30 Hiradur It appears to be more polished. I noticed some inconsistency between item icons and textures. I don't really mind though. 18:31 Calinou you can use texture packs 18:31 Calinou And that too on a crappy TOSHIBA?! 18:31 Calinou not all TOSHIBAS are crappy. 18:31 hoodedice Well, this one is - partly 18:31 hoodedice I like te CPU and the inner hardware 18:31 hoodedice But the screen is LED. 18:31 hoodedice And their support is near crass 18:39 Hiradur I also play Rigs of Rods which suffers from very bad performance and one user found out that it's probably cause by a high batch count. I always wondered, why MC-like games eat so many cpu-cycles, could this be an issue here? See: http://www.rigsofrods.com/threads/109468-Can-t-this-thing-go-any-faster-(RoR-performance-thread) (not that I understand 3D programming though) 18:42 hoodedice RoR was a very good game and game engine 18:42 hoodedice But the crappy devs sold out, and started their own thing 18:42 hoodedice RoR is like, trash now 18:43 hoodedice MC like games suffer in performance because most world objects are live 18:43 Hiradur RoR is still fun. Although many features are broken :/ 18:43 hoodedice There isn't enough quality content now 18:43 hoodedice Most of the better devs left for BeamNG 18:44 hoodedice There is a lack of good racing games on *buntu 18:46 Hiradur Now and then good good content is released. But I didn't want to discuss RoR, I just wanted to point to batch count since this seems like a topic with a lack of documentation 18:47 Hiradur Although it could not affect MC-like games. I don't know. It's just that in RoR every visible beam has its own batch. Thought this could be the same for every block in MC 18:48 hoodedice The issue posted in there is not in mt 18:48 hoodedice The reason we have loads of meshes is because - we do 18:48 hoodedice And we can't help it 18:49 hoodedice But then again, most of what I say is irrevelant, because I'm not a core dev 18:49 hoodedice I'm only an amateur modder and a server admin 18:50 Hiradur Maybe it is of use to someone. 19:00 Calinou c But the screen is LED. 19:00 Calinou LCD LED 19:00 Calinou not true LED 19:00 Calinou also, LED isn't bad. 19:00 Calinou Hiradur, I never got RoR to run 19:00 reactor It's just a type of backlight. 19:00 Calinou MC like games suffer in performance because most world objects are live 19:01 reactor It should be more energy efficient than mercury lamps, though. 19:01 Calinou poor rendering code, too many entities which are rendered inefficiently, fog could be tweaked better, 20 unneeded ticks per second (10 are enough) 19:01 Calinou There is a lack of good racing games on *buntu 19:01 Calinou Stunt Rally, SuperTuxkart 19:01 Calinou first one is semi-simulation, fun, lots of tracks, has online MP (but no players usually) 19:11 ShadowNinja sfan5: Those modes should be conbined. And "We're still under attack (DDoS), expect disruptions" -- #freenode 19:12 Hiradur Calinou, RoR: why? Are you using Linux? Performance: "too many entities which are rendered inefficiently" -> batch count? :D 19:12 Calinou yes, GNU/Linux 19:13 Calinou I'll look at my forum thread 19:13 sfan5 mh, ok 19:14 sfan5 !op ShadowNinja sfan5 PilzAdam Jordach 19:14 sfan5 # 19:14 sfan5 #m 19:14 sfan5 MinetestBot! 19:14 MinetestBot sfan5! 19:15 sfan5 I should really move MinetestBot from my shitty vps to somewhere else 19:15 reactor back to the 90s? 19:16 Krock Hey MinetestBot 19:16 Calinou no reply 19:16 MinetestBot Hello Krock! 19:16 Hiradur link? 19:16 ShadowNinja Hey ShadowBot 19:16 ShadowBot Hello ShadowNinja! 19:17 ShadowNinja Krock: ^ :-) 19:17 Krock ShadowBot i hate you 19:17 Krock ehm 19:17 Krock Hey ShadowBot 19:17 ShadowBot Hello Krock! 19:17 Krock Too bad. 19:17 ShadowNinja Hmmm? 19:18 ShadowBot john_minetest: help [] [] 19:18 ShadowNinja It matches "(?i)^(?:(?:(?:Hello)|(?:Hi)|(?:Hey)|(?:Yo)|(?:Greetings)|(?:Howdy)),? ShadowBot(?:!|\.)?)$" 19:18 Krock ~help die 19:18 ShadowBot Krock: Error: There is no command "die". 19:18 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add `worldedit_shortcommands`, which adds aliases to commonly used chat commands that allow users to type in long command names faster. Idea is courtesy of @electricface. https://gi 2014-02-23T11:16:22-08:00 http://git.io/9Wkw2Q 19:18 ShadowNinja Krock: It uses 'quit' for that. 19:18 ShadowBot john_minetest: Error: There is no command "me because i got this long string". 19:19 sfan5 ~help google 19:19 ShadowBot sfan5: (02g04o08o02g03l04e [--{filter,language} ]) -- Searches 02g04o08o02g03l04e.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --filter accepts a filtering level ('active', 'moderate', 'off'). 19:19 ShadowBot john_minetest: Error: There is no command "me because i got this long string that will overflow the tiny ram of the computer that shadowbot is hosted on". 19:19 Krock Gr33tings ShadowBot 19:19 ShadowNinja john_minetest: Your definition of tiny is 20GB? 19:19 ShadowNinja ;-) 19:20 ShadowNinja ~cpu 19:20 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: I have taken 1061.06 seconds of user time and 29.74 seconds of system time, for a total of 1090.80 seconds of CPU time. My children have taken 0.98 seconds of user time and 1.45 seconds of system time for a total of 2.43 seconds of CPU time. I'm taking up 54MB of memory. 19:20 ShadowNinja It has a log of 1000 messages. 19:21 Krock omg 19:21 ShadowNinja +An SQLite DB. But I have a DB that's been running for about a year and it's only 500MB. (6+ networks, 200 or so buffers) 19:59 Taoki Guys... I would like to know something: Is it something BAD that I'm also into Minecraft, and on the #minecraft channel? Don't wanna go in detail over private conversations, but I'm hearing that now you are a bad Minetest member if you also like Minecraft. WTF? 19:59 Krock huh 19:59 EvergreenTree Taoki: That isn't true 19:59 EvergreenTree It's like linux vs. windows 19:59 Taoki Seriously. I understand some people here aren't also into MC, which of course is fine. But now I'm being dragged by the ear for being on the Minecraft channel over here 20:00 Taoki Ok. Glad it's not a general thing then 20:00 EvergreenTree It's just some people are being anti proprietary 20:00 EvergreenTree Jordach uses minecraft 20:00 EvergreenTree There's nothing wrong with that 20:00 EvergreenTree Same argument with people who use windows 20:00 Jordach btw, thanks for spilling my tea Taoki on my mechanical kb 20:00 Taoki I'm anti proprietary too. I would never use closed-source software given the choice, except some games I do like. But I don't think using something proprietary is actually a sin 20:01 EvergreenTree Taoki: it isn't 20:01 Taoki mechanical kb? 20:01 EvergreenTree even though some people say it is 20:01 EvergreenTree mechanical keyboard 20:01 Taoki oh 20:01 EvergreenTree ^ pretty expensive keyboards 20:01 EvergreenTree ~50$ at the cheapest 20:01 Taoki Jordach: I'm sorry... it's just that hearing about such things sorta came as a shock 20:01 Jordach that's fine 20:01 Jordach your PM made me jump when i put the tea down 20:02 * Taoki is pretty confused even. But prefers to remain confused on such a matter, cuz making sense of it would be even weirder 20:04 Taoki Jordach: Ah, the notification sound of me PM-ing you? Or you meant the content? 20:05 Jordach Taoki, i meant the sight of the notification in KDE 20:05 Jordach i didn't see it until my eyes registered it 20:05 Taoki Aaah. That's why you were slow to reply :P Sorry about that 20:05 Taoki And nice to see someone else who uses KDE :) 20:06 Jordach Taoki, Mak-LionTaste and GhostShell panel and icon set 20:10 Jordach Taoki, http://imgur.com/a/CvU6Q 20:10 Jordach example :) 20:11 EvergreenTree Taoki: I use kde 20:11 EvergreenTree kubuntu 20:11 EvergreenTree so does PilzAdam 20:11 Jordach i just did kubuntu-desktop 20:13 Taoki Nice 20:14 Jordach i like the OS X idea of everything on the bottom 20:15 Taoki In my case, I configured KDE to be a lot more like the Windows 7 desktop I was used to before moving to Linux. Talk about the discussion earlier ;) 20:16 * Jordach starts playing Baba O'Riley - The Who 20:16 Jordach Taoki, to be honest W7's UI was perfect 20:17 Taoki I did like it, yes 20:17 Taoki And I'm glad that I can get a very similar layout with KDE. All in open-source only software :) 20:18 Jordach i used to blend in windows 20:18 Jordach until i got near perfect results in Linux too 20:18 Jordach Taoki, i'm more surprised you don't have a DA 20:18 Taoki I do 20:19 Jordach linkz 20:19 Jordach also - place bets on a spammer: https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=9138 20:19 Taoki The art I make is a bit more controverted though. So since I don't wanna get lynched, maybe a bit later :) 20:19 Jordach there's always PM 20:20 Taoki Nothing Minecraft / Minetest themed though 20:20 Jordach you think i've not seen the dark corner of the net? 20:20 sfan5 Jordach: have you browsed many parts of the tor network? 20:21 Taoki Most people have. Some still don't react too well to it though 20:21 Jordach some 20:22 Jordach fail 20:22 Jordach and my right ear is blocked 20:24 * Jordach just uses the power of BASS to clear it 20:30 Jordach john_minetest, i'd go higher, and liquify the earwax :D 20:41 * Jordach exports a world quick;y 20:43 * john_minetest downloads GCC. 20:44 Jordach YOU MAD MAN 21:18 sfan5 john_minetest: why do you take that long to compile gcc? 21:18 sfan5 also: why gcc? 21:18 sfan5 clang is much better 21:19 sfan5 john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/a6u21jm.jpg 21:19 sfan5 wat 21:19 sfan5 you can build clang from one source tree 21:19 sfan5 http://clang.llvm.org/get_started.html 21:20 sfan5 it would be a pain in the ass to compile everything seperatly 21:21 sfan5 that is right 21:21 sfan5 you need llvm and clang 21:21 sfan5 but you can build everything in one source tree 21:22 sfan5 do you even read? 21:22 sfan5 that are serveral repos 21:32 sfan5 john_minetest: but it's faster than gcc with compiling c++ (and probably c too) 21:49 Megaf VanessaE: Hi, can you please tell me whats that skin mod name again? 21:49 VanessaE player_textures 21:50 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3587 21:56 Megaf Thank you 21:57 STHGOM hey 22:58 PilzAdam bye