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PinkSquirrel |
Oh, my. That would be *way* above my pay grade, ShadowNinja. |
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ShadowNinja |
Hehe. |
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PilzAdam_ |
bye |
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* VanessaE |
looks at ShadowNinja's link .... and goes completely cross-eyed. |
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hoodedice |
Is the madness over? |
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hoodedice |
us_0gb: |
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hoodedice |
Hi |
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ShadowNinja |
hoodedice: Nope, not yet. |
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us_0gb |
Why am I us_0gb again? I'm supposed to be Pink Squirrel. |
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eraldev |
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eraldev |
sorry |
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Gatharoth |
Ello all |
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Adarqet-Doge |
VE-Minetest: players |
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LazyJ |
Sokomine, have you heard any players complaining about their inventories being "rolled back" or reset after upgrading to Minetest 0.4.9? |
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* LazyJ |
is away: I'm away |
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* LazyJ |
is back (gone 00:03:50) |
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LazyJ |
Ugh... I forgot to shut that off. |
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ShadowNinja |
~tell LazyJ I haven't. Inventories weren't changed much (at all?) in 0.4.9. |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: O.K. |
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Hirato_ |
scumbag shadowbot doesn't pass the message to LazyJ |
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Hirato_ |
assuming it does that in the channel |
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LazyJ |
I received a pm from shadowbot / shadowninja saying that the player files hadn't changed much (if at all) in MT049. |
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Hirato_ |
:o |
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LazyJ |
So it may very well be a gremlin unique to our server now. |
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ShadowNinja |
Hirato_: ShadowBot uses PMs, intentionally. |
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LazyJ |
It just started happening after the upgrade to MT049 last weekend. |
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LazyJ |
Nothing unusual in the logs to indicate what may be causing it. No new mods have been installed. The players affected don't seem to have anything in common, as far as we know atm. |
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Hirato_ |
were they playing before the upgrade? |
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Hirato_ |
as in, hours or minutes before |
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LazyJ |
The server was shutdown for several hours during the upgrade (clearobjects was run first, taking up most of the time). |
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LazyJ |
The players may have been in-game when the server shutdown for it's nightly backup routine. |
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LazyJ |
But that hasn't been a problem before. |
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Hirato_ |
I'm just suggesting that maybe the server was killed before it had a change to write their inventories |
| 07:51 |
LazyJ |
The problem showed up about a week after the upgrade. So they have been playing as usual. |
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LazyJ |
These are regular players, so they aren't just some fly-through, players kvetching. |
| 07:53 |
LazyJ |
I've loaded my empty inventory slots with wooden swords (something I wouldn't ever need or use - an odd-ball item that I will notice) and will wait to see what happens after tonight's backup. |
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LazyJ |
As a test to see if the gremlin affects my player file. |
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LazyJ |
I checked the logs and the server didn't crash during the time their inventories were changed. |
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LazyJ |
Trying to figure out what was happening through a process of elimination. |
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webdesigner97 |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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RagnarLaud |
hi doods |
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RagnarLaud |
crap, i logged into my website from another IP address, and like it had to, it didn't let me in and sent me an email :D |
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* Jordach |
just adblocked an adblock disable notification |
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Jordach |
+please |
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RagnarLaud |
xD |
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Krock2 |
+1 |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
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markveidemanis |
http://static.squarespace.com/static/521b849de4b08ade07855358/521e3645e4b0e5f4920744e5/521e365ae4b0c4c442a0d75e/1377711926162/Paul-Nicklen-Leopard-Seal-006.jpg?format=1500w |
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markveidemanis |
:( |
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* Krock |
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Jordach |
plol some random C# app works in WINE |
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* sfan5 |
gives Jordach a kitten |
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markveidemanis |
Hmm... |
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markveidemanis |
Is my hostname my ip? |
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markveidemanis |
host86-131-41-15.range86-131.btcentralplus.com == 86.131.41.15? |
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markveidemanis |
COuld it be useful? |
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Jordach |
no shit |
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sirdigby |
hello |
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sfan5 |
hello |
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sfan5 |
!deop ShadowNinja sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
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sfan5 |
... |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
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sfan5 |
!deop ShadowNinja sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
??? |
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sirdigby |
lol |
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PenguinDad |
hello MinetestBot |
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MinetestBot |
sup PenguinDad |
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harrison |
do not anger Torpo the Sluggish |
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harrison |
for while he is slow to wrath |
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harrison |
once angered |
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harrison |
he is still sluggish |
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hoodedice |
Jordach! |
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Jordach |
yes |
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hoodedice |
How do I change the eye colour in the model? |
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Jordach |
hoodedice, click the body |
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Jordach |
look at the red and white checkered tab |
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Jordach |
(should be under the outliner) |
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Jordach |
there are actual limits with my skin, however |
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Jordach |
model* |
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hoodedice |
? |
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Jordach |
the problem is it only supports skins that use the eye positions of Sam II |
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hoodedice |
http://i.imgur.com/Sm65hZR.png |
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hoodedice |
I'm using mcskin3d to make my skin... |
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hoodedice |
^That is incomplete, was just testing |
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Jordach |
+1 for MCSkin3d |
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Jordach |
get a copy of Sam II |
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hoodedice |
But looks zwizzing creepy |
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Jordach |
and keep the eyes in the same place |
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Jordach |
(you can also use char.png / steve.png) |
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Jordach |
ello hoodedice |
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hoodedice |
The only problem with IE 11 with Windows 8.1 touch |
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hoodedice |
Pages are not kept active |
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Jordach |
MMM? |
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Jordach |
oh |
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Jordach |
get Firefox or CHrome |
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Jordach |
something i didn't know, spotify uses Lua |
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hoodedice |
I'm on firefox atm |
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hoodedice |
brb |
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reactor |
People still use IE? |
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reactor |
What a ridicule of a world is ours! |
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sirdigby |
nubs |
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hoodedice |
Because it has gestures |
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Exio4 |
some people still uses windows too |
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Exio4 |
also |
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hoodedice |
And browsing some sites are actually faster |
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Exio4 |
someone asked for ardour in his widnows |
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hoodedice |
And Exio4 still plays minecraft |
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reactor |
Exio4: yeah :( |
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Exio4 |
windows* |
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* hoodedice |
flies away |
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Exio4 |
hoodedice: yeah, sad, no? |
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* Jordach |
starts singing to http://open.spotify.com/track/7Az9kfq4JLD8auD1xoErrP / spotify:track:7Az9kfq4JLD8auD1xoErrP |
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Jordach |
moon looks good, lighthouse doesnt |
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hoodedice |
Now I get it lol |
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hoodedice |
Jordach: Should the grid size be the same too? |
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hoodedice |
Because mine has more detail |
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Jordach |
?/// |
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Jordach |
pics |
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* Jordach |
pokes Gatharoth |
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Jordach |
hoodedice, the eyes should be in the same place as Sam IIs |
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hoodedice |
http://i.imgur.com/ljr8PV3.png |
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hoodedice |
WIP |
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Jordach |
hoodedice, idk |
| 16:01 |
hoodedice |
k |
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hoodedice |
Now if I only had a way to overlay the two images... |
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hoodedice |
TADA, Paint.net |
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Jordach |
Y U NO GIMP |
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hoodedice |
Because windows |
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hoodedice |
And because it is lighter |
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hoodedice |
And because I don't need all those extra features |
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hoodedice |
-.- |
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markveidemanis |
SO hostname works as constant domain? |
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hoodedice |
I don't use windows because extra features - Because I have one pen drive, used for its recovery |
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hoodedice |
And I don't have another to install Xubuntu |
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hoodedice |
I get it, eyes are slightly above SAM's |
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hoodedice |
Jordach, why did you smooth sam? |
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Jordach |
noise looks LIKE SHIT when the arms bend at 90 degrees |
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hoodedice |
Jordach: I'm getting better at it lol http://i.imgur.com/Vy2oZkA.png |
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hoodedice |
Rendering mode in vieport shading is so shitty |
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hoodedice |
Jordach, Sam2 has these white squares in his eyes - but only the blue is rendered? |
| 16:24 |
hoodedice |
enough blending for the day - *goes back t texturing* |
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Jordach |
hoodedice, interpolation |
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hoodedice |
!g interpolation |
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MinetestBot |
hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpolation |
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hoodedice |
Thank you MinetestBot |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
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hoodedice |
Hey hmmmm, rubenwardy |
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PenguinDad |
!uudecode .2&D@<G5B96YW87)D>2$ \n |
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MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Failed to handle data |
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PenguinDad |
hi rubenwardy |
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hoodedice |
rubenwardy: That moment when n00bs attempt to blender render: http://i.imgur.com/Vy2oZkA.png |
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Jordach |
lol PenguinDad |
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pitriss |
Hi, I wanted to ask.. Is possible to write from mod directly into remote mysql DB? Luajit is used on that server.. |
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GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix test for broken LuaJIT versions, solves #1152 f6232d71b6 2014-02-23T09:30:45-08:00 http://git.io/cFFJxg |
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hoodedice |
Calinou! |
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hoodedice |
How does your wd mod work? |
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sfan5 |
hoodedice: it dw's wds until wd dw multiple wds |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
wd? |
| 17:39 |
hoodedice |
... |
| 17:40 |
hoodedice |
I forgot it's name - The one that imports we schems into one world |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
worldedit? |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
you should be asking sfan5 on that, not me |
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sfan5 |
weblock? |
| 17:40 |
hoodedice |
Oh wait |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
its* |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
also I didn't make WorldEdit |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
Jordach, weboob! |
| 17:41 |
hoodedice |
lol, it wasn't calinou, someone else with a similar name |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
cisoun? |
| 17:41 |
hoodedice |
But who was it - I can't find te topic now |
| 17:41 |
hoodedice |
Could be |
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sfan5 |
!g worldedit import world mod site:forum.minetest.net |
| 17:41 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=572 |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
nope |
| 17:41 |
hoodedice |
No not cisoun |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
that's the WE topic |
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sfan5 |
I know it by ID :P |
| 17:42 |
hoodedice |
*facepalm* I am so stupid XD |
| 17:42 |
hoodedice |
CASIMIR! |
| 17:42 |
hoodedice |
Found it: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8461 |
| 17:43 |
hoodedice |
Yeah, so anyone has any idea how ^ works? |
| 17:45 |
hoodedice |
okay, what I really want to know is: When you import a we schem into your own world, is it imported as a set of blocks or as one huge block? |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
set of blocks |
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hoodedice |
And if the we shem is later deleted from this wd folder, will it still exist in that world? |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
yes |
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Gatharoth |
Ello ll |
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Gatharoth |
all* |
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Jordach |
Gatharoth, i remember playing on your server back in Jan 2012 |
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hoodedice |
Hi |
| 17:46 |
hoodedice |
So once I import, then the set of blocks in my map are no longer dependent on the .we schems |
| 17:46 |
Gatharoth |
Haha, yeah, it's been almost 2 years since I've been around |
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Jordach |
yup |
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hoodedice |
k, thanks Jordach |
| 17:47 |
hoodedice |
Calinou: much hate? "Link shorteners are discouraged for URLs that are not long." |
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Calinou |
where did you see an URL shortener? |
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hoodedice |
go again? |
| 17:50 |
hoodedice |
Jordach, Mc3dskinthingy has this hotkey cut called animate |
| 17:50 |
hoodedice |
But it doesn't work |
| 17:50 |
hoodedice |
*keyboard shortcut |
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Hiradur |
hey, what performance should I expect on VanessaE's Survival Server with an Intel i5 4570? Because I mostly get <30fps and one core is maxed out all the time. Is this normal? |
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hoodedice |
Hiradur, try decreasing your minimum view range |
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hoodedice |
And yes, it could be very well normal - I've heard there's some serious architecture on it |
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EvergreenTree |
o/ |
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EvergreenTree |
My desktop is working again |
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EvergreenTree |
:D |
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Hiradur |
viewing_range_nodes_min = 35 |
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Hiradur |
viewing_range_nodes_max = 160 this? |
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hoodedice |
EvergreenTree: What happens when you mix n00bs and Jordach's awesome blender skills? |
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EvergreenTree |
what? |
| 17:58 |
hoodedice |
This happens: http://i.imgur.com/Vy2oZkA.png |
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EvergreenTree |
lol |
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hoodedice |
ninja'd XD |
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hoodedice |
Possibly, Hiradur - Apart from that you can also press - ingame |
| 17:59 |
hoodedice |
- |
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Hiradur |
will try that, thanks |
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hoodedice |
First attempt http://i.imgur.com/Sm65hZR.png |
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hoodedice |
I got scared like shiz |
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EvergreenTree |
lol wow |
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EvergreenTree |
Jordach: is online I think |
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EvergreenTree |
he can help you |
| 18:00 |
hoodedice |
I did have a 30 minute session this morning |
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Jordach |
meow |
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hoodedice |
That improvement was due to him |
| 18:04 |
Hiradur |
hoodedice: I tried it and it increases fps by 10 at minimum view distance. Still not sure if this is right. I also experience heavy lag (over 1 second) on every server I tried so far. |
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hoodedice |
Lag is largely based on how many people connect and from where they connect |
| 18:05 |
hoodedice |
But then again, everything is ambigious |
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hoodedice |
I had one Canadian and one Israeli connect on my East US server - No lag for anyone |
| 18:06 |
hoodedice |
then one Canadian, and two Europeans - Heavy lag for everyone |
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Hiradur |
But it is the same for all servers. I'm from germany and connected to a german server and lag was still the same |
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hoodedice |
What's your net speed? |
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Hiradur |
16k down, 1.2k up |
| 18:07 |
hoodedice |
Well, that is slow -/ |
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puhfa |
other servers having recently issues too? i was wondering if the irc mod has anything to do with it |
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hoodedice |
=/ |
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puhfa |
what with the ddossing of freenode and all |
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puhfa |
dunno bout the bot but it might cause holdup when its trying to reconnect |
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Hiradur |
But its pretty much average in germany. Probably above average. |
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hoodedice |
It's 4.3 Mbps |
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hoodedice |
avg in Germany |
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Hiradur |
with 16k I mean 16 mbits |
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hoodedice |
*confused* |
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Hiradur |
sorry ;) |
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* hoodedice |
jumps off building |
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hoodedice |
sfan5! |
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* sfan5 |
gives hoodedice a kitten |
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hoodedice |
sfan5: world average is 5 mbps - Does hiradur have higher or lower speed? |
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hoodedice |
hiradur: windows? |
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sfan5 |
hoodedice: 16 Mb/s > 5 Mb/s |
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Hiradur |
windows 8.1 x64, I also tried a lot of builds already, x32/x64 stable/dev |
| 18:13 |
hoodedice |
hmm, weird stuff is happening... |
| 18:13 |
hoodedice |
Abandon planet! |
| 18:14 |
hoodedice |
Hiradur: while Windows 8.1 is also great, a linux distro gives you upto a 15 fps boost |
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hoodedice |
*proper linux distro |
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hoodedice |
use x32 as there is no real difference in performance with x64 |
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Hiradur |
yeah, actually I'm going to change to Linux soon. Windows 8.1 isn't exactly great. I'm just waiting for the next Linux Mint LTS. |
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sfan5 |
hoodedice: wrong |
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sfan5 |
x6 |
| 18:15 |
hoodedice |
"Windows 8.1 isn't exactly great" |
| 18:15 |
sfan5 |
x64 over x32 usually makes a differene |
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* hoodedice |
jumps off building |
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* sfan5 |
taps hoodedice |
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hoodedice |
sfan5: citation: PilzAdam |
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* sfan5 |
taps hoodedice's citation |
| 18:16 |
hoodedice |
But, PilzAdam! |
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* sfan5 |
taps PilzAdam |
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PilzAdam |
if someone pings me again Ill kick |
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hoodedice |
PlzAdam |
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PenguinDad |
lol |
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Hiradur |
Weird thing is that Minecraft runs with >200fps on my machine. But I recently discovered Minetest and I really like it. |
| 18:18 |
hoodedice |
MC is a finised game - Don't expect the same from MT as yet |
| 18:18 |
hoodedice |
Unless you're on linux |
| 18:18 |
Hiradur |
I like its rough edges |
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sfan5 |
Hiradur: have you taken a look at mods? |
| 18:20 |
Hiradur |
Yeah, that is what I like the most about it. Also that it is very convenient to join a modded server. |
| 18:21 |
Hiradur |
Great job you guys have done so far. |
| 18:21 |
hoodedice |
*sob* |
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Hiradur |
If only the performance was better on my machine. But maybe Linux is the solution, Windows 8.1 really is sloppy at some things |
| 18:22 |
hoodedice |
"Windows 8.1 really is sloppy at some things" |
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* hoodedice |
sets himself on fire |
| 18:23 |
Hiradur |
I always was kind of a Windows fan since XP. I knew every tweak and stuff. But Windows 8.1 really drives me nuts. Usability and compatibility are crap. I got 7 bluescreens so far, something I haven't seen for years |
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specing |
lol |
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* sfan5 |
can confirm bluescreens and shitty usability |
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sfan5 |
MS is trying to mix tablet os and desktop os |
| 18:24 |
hoodedice |
Why am I the only one to like 8,1 |
| 18:24 |
sfan5 |
you even have 2 different control panels with overlapping & unique functions |
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* specing |
is a Linux fan since Suse Enterprise Linux in 2000 or so |
| 18:25 |
hoodedice |
And like 0 bluescreens till now?! |
| 18:25 |
hoodedice |
And that too on a crappy TOSHIBA?! |
| 18:26 |
Hiradur |
fun fact: While my laptop runs with Windows 8 I can not upgrade to Windows 8.1 because installation always ends with a bluescreen |
| 18:26 |
hoodedice |
8 is crap. |
| 18:27 |
hoodedice |
Hiradur, try resetting and re updating |
| 18:27 |
Hiradur |
I tried a fresh install from a USB Stick |
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Calinou |
<hoodedice> MC is a finised game - Don't expect the same from MT as yet |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
MC isn't "finished" |
| 18:29 |
hoodedice |
derp |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
also Minetest is pretty usable and playable. |
| 18:29 |
hoodedice |
It is, but just don't expect this to be MC - was what I was trying to say |
| 18:30 |
Hiradur |
It appears to be more polished. I noticed some inconsistency between item icons and textures. I don't really mind though. |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
you can use texture packs |
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Calinou |
<hoodedice> And that too on a crappy TOSHIBA?! |
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Calinou |
not all TOSHIBAS are crappy. |
| 18:31 |
hoodedice |
Well, this one is - partly |
| 18:31 |
hoodedice |
I like te CPU and the inner hardware |
| 18:31 |
hoodedice |
But the screen is LED. |
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hoodedice |
And their support is near crass |
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Hiradur |
I also play Rigs of Rods which suffers from very bad performance and one user found out that it's probably cause by a high batch count. I always wondered, why MC-like games eat so many cpu-cycles, could this be an issue here? See: http://www.rigsofrods.com/threads/109468-Can-t-this-thing-go-any-faster-(RoR-performance-thread) (not that I understand 3D programming though) |
| 18:42 |
hoodedice |
RoR was a very good game and game engine |
| 18:42 |
hoodedice |
But the crappy devs sold out, and started their own thing |
| 18:42 |
hoodedice |
RoR is like, trash now |
| 18:43 |
hoodedice |
MC like games suffer in performance because most world objects are live |
| 18:43 |
Hiradur |
RoR is still fun. Although many features are broken :/ |
| 18:43 |
hoodedice |
There isn't enough quality content now |
| 18:43 |
hoodedice |
Most of the better devs left for BeamNG |
| 18:44 |
hoodedice |
There is a lack of good racing games on *buntu |
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Hiradur |
Now and then good good content is released. But I didn't want to discuss RoR, I just wanted to point to batch count since this seems like a topic with a lack of documentation |
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Hiradur |
Although it could not affect MC-like games. I don't know. It's just that in RoR every visible beam has its own batch. Thought this could be the same for every block in MC |
| 18:48 |
hoodedice |
The issue posted in there is not in mt |
| 18:48 |
hoodedice |
The reason we have loads of meshes is because - we do |
| 18:48 |
hoodedice |
And we can't help it |
| 18:49 |
hoodedice |
But then again, most of what I say is irrevelant, because I'm not a core dev |
| 18:49 |
hoodedice |
I'm only an amateur modder and a server admin |
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Hiradur |
Maybe it is of use to someone. |
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Calinou |
c<hoodedice> But the screen is LED. |
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Calinou |
LCD LED |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
not true LED |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
also, LED isn't bad. |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
Hiradur, I never got RoR to run |
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reactor |
It's just a type of backlight. |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
<hoodedice> MC like games suffer in performance because most world objects are live |
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reactor |
It should be more energy efficient than mercury lamps, though. |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
poor rendering code, too many entities which are rendered inefficiently, fog could be tweaked better, 20 unneeded ticks per second (10 are enough) |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
<hoodedice> There is a lack of good racing games on *buntu |
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Calinou |
Stunt Rally, SuperTuxkart |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
first one is semi-simulation, fun, lots of tracks, has online MP (but no players usually) |
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ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Those modes should be conbined. And "We're still under attack (DDoS), expect disruptions" -- #freenode |
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Hiradur |
Calinou, RoR: why? Are you using Linux? Performance: "too many entities which are rendered inefficiently" -> batch count? :D |
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Calinou |
yes, GNU/Linux |
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Calinou |
I'll look at my forum thread |
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sfan5 |
mh, ok |
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sfan5 |
!op ShadowNinja sfan5 PilzAdam Jordach |
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sfan5 |
# |
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sfan5 |
#m |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
| 19:14 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
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sfan5 |
I should really move MinetestBot from my shitty vps to somewhere else |
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reactor |
back to the 90s? |
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Krock |
Hey MinetestBot |
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Calinou |
no reply |
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MinetestBot |
Hello Krock! |
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Hiradur |
link? |
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ShadowNinja |
Hey ShadowBot |
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ShadowBot |
Hello ShadowNinja! |
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ShadowNinja |
Krock: ^ :-) |
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Krock |
ShadowBot i hate you |
| 19:17 |
Krock |
ehm |
| 19:17 |
Krock |
Hey ShadowBot |
| 19:17 |
ShadowBot |
Hello Krock! |
| 19:17 |
Krock |
Too bad. |
| 19:17 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm? |
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ShadowBot |
john_minetest: help [<plugin>] [<command>] |
| 19:18 |
ShadowNinja |
It matches "(?i)^(?:(?:(?:Hello)|(?:Hi)|(?:Hey)|(?:Yo)|(?:Greetings)|(?:Howdy)),? ShadowBot(?:!|\.)?)$" |
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Krock |
~help die |
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ShadowBot |
Krock: Error: There is no command "die". |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add `worldedit_shortcommands`, which adds aliases to commonly used chat commands that allow users to type in long command names faster. Idea is courtesy of @electricface. https://gi 2014-02-23T11:16:22-08:00 http://git.io/9Wkw2Q |
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ShadowNinja |
Krock: It uses 'quit' for that. |
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ShadowBot |
john_minetest: Error: There is no command "me because i got this long string". |
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sfan5 |
~help google |
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ShadowBot |
sfan5: (02google <search> [--{filter,language} <value>]) -- Searches 02google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --filter accepts a filtering level ('active', 'moderate', 'off'). |
| 19:19 |
ShadowBot |
john_minetest: Error: There is no command "me because i got this long string that will overflow the tiny ram of the computer that shadowbot is hosted on". |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
Gr33tings ShadowBot |
| 19:19 |
ShadowNinja |
john_minetest: Your definition of tiny is 20GB? |
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ShadowNinja |
;-) |
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ShadowNinja |
~cpu |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: I have taken 1061.06 seconds of user time and 29.74 seconds of system time, for a total of 1090.80 seconds of CPU time. My children have taken 0.98 seconds of user time and 1.45 seconds of system time for a total of 2.43 seconds of CPU time. I'm taking up 54MB of memory. |
| 19:20 |
ShadowNinja |
It has a log of 1000 messages. |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
omg |
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ShadowNinja |
+An SQLite DB. But I have a DB that's been running for about a year and it's only 500MB. (6+ networks, 200 or so buffers) |
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Taoki |
Guys... I would like to know something: Is it something BAD that I'm also into Minecraft, and on the #minecraft channel? Don't wanna go in detail over private conversations, but I'm hearing that now you are a bad Minetest member if you also like Minecraft. WTF? |
| 19:59 |
Krock |
huh |
| 19:59 |
EvergreenTree |
Taoki: That isn't true |
| 19:59 |
EvergreenTree |
It's like linux vs. windows |
| 19:59 |
Taoki |
Seriously. I understand some people here aren't also into MC, which of course is fine. But now I'm being dragged by the ear for being on the Minecraft channel over here |
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Taoki |
Ok. Glad it's not a general thing then |
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EvergreenTree |
It's just some people are being anti proprietary |
| 20:00 |
EvergreenTree |
Jordach uses minecraft |
| 20:00 |
EvergreenTree |
There's nothing wrong with that |
| 20:00 |
EvergreenTree |
Same argument with people who use windows |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
btw, thanks for spilling my tea Taoki on my mechanical kb |
| 20:00 |
Taoki |
I'm anti proprietary too. I would never use closed-source software given the choice, except some games I do like. But I don't think using something proprietary is actually a sin |
| 20:01 |
EvergreenTree |
Taoki: it isn't |
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Taoki |
mechanical kb? |
| 20:01 |
EvergreenTree |
even though some people say it is |
| 20:01 |
EvergreenTree |
mechanical keyboard |
| 20:01 |
Taoki |
oh |
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EvergreenTree |
^ pretty expensive keyboards |
| 20:01 |
EvergreenTree |
~50$ at the cheapest |
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Taoki |
Jordach: I'm sorry... it's just that hearing about such things sorta came as a shock |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
that's fine |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
your PM made me jump when i put the tea down |
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* Taoki |
is pretty confused even. But prefers to remain confused on such a matter, cuz making sense of it would be even weirder |
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Taoki |
Jordach: Ah, the notification sound of me PM-ing you? Or you meant the content? |
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Jordach |
Taoki, i meant the sight of the notification in KDE |
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Jordach |
i didn't see it until my eyes registered it |
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Taoki |
Aaah. That's why you were slow to reply :P Sorry about that |
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Taoki |
And nice to see someone else who uses KDE :) |
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Jordach |
Taoki, Mak-LionTaste and GhostShell panel and icon set |
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Jordach |
Taoki, http://imgur.com/a/CvU6Q |
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Jordach |
example :) |
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EvergreenTree |
Taoki: I use kde |
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EvergreenTree |
kubuntu |
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EvergreenTree |
so does PilzAdam |
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Jordach |
i just did kubuntu-desktop |
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Taoki |
Nice |
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Jordach |
i like the OS X idea of everything on the bottom |
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Taoki |
In my case, I configured KDE to be a lot more like the Windows 7 desktop I was used to before moving to Linux. Talk about the discussion earlier ;) |
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* Jordach |
starts playing Baba O'Riley - The Who |
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Jordach |
Taoki, to be honest W7's UI was perfect |
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Taoki |
I did like it, yes |
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Taoki |
And I'm glad that I can get a very similar layout with KDE. All in open-source only software :) |
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Jordach |
i used to blend in windows |
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Jordach |
until i got near perfect results in Linux too |
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Jordach |
Taoki, i'm more surprised you don't have a DA |
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Taoki |
I do |
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Jordach |
linkz |
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Jordach |
also - place bets on a spammer: https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=9138 |
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Taoki |
The art I make is a bit more controverted though. So since I don't wanna get lynched, maybe a bit later :) |
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Jordach |
there's always PM |
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Taoki |
Nothing Minecraft / Minetest themed though |
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Jordach |
you think i've not seen the dark corner of the net? |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: have you browsed many parts of the tor network? |
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Taoki |
Most people have. Some still don't react too well to it though |
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Jordach |
some |
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Jordach |
fail |
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Jordach |
and my right ear is blocked |
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* Jordach |
just uses the power of BASS to clear it |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, i'd go higher, and liquify the earwax :D |
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* Jordach |
exports a world quick;y |
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* john_minetest |
downloads GCC. |
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Jordach |
YOU MAD MAN |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: why do you take that long to compile gcc? |
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sfan5 |
also: why gcc? |
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sfan5 |
clang is much better |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/a6u21jm.jpg |
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sfan5 |
wat |
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sfan5 |
you can build clang from one source tree |
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sfan5 |
http://clang.llvm.org/get_started.html |
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sfan5 |
it would be a pain in the ass to compile everything seperatly |
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sfan5 |
that is right |
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sfan5 |
you need llvm and clang |
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sfan5 |
but you can build everything in one source tree |
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sfan5 |
do you even read? |
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sfan5 |
that are serveral repos |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: but it's faster than gcc with compiling c++ (and probably c too) |
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Megaf |
VanessaE: Hi, can you please tell me whats that skin mod name again? |
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VanessaE |
player_textures |
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VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3587 |
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Megaf |
Thank you |
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STHGOM |
hey |
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bye |
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