Time  Nick            Message
01:41 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
01:47 VanessaE        hey grog
01:47 thefamilygrog66 hey V, what's new?
01:47 VanessaE        oh, not a whole lot :_)
01:47 VanessaE        :)
01:49 thefamilygrog66 I've been darksiding it a fair bit recently, aka playing minecraft pocket edition with my boy on our tablets
01:49 thefamilygrog66 <ducks>
01:49 VanessaE        why not try one of the Minetest android builds?
01:50 thefamilygrog66 I didn't know there was a client yet - heard about an android server awhile back.
01:50 VanessaE        stu's latest experimental build is here:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=130360#p130360
01:50 thefamilygrog66 Cool, I'll check it out
01:51 VanessaE        sfan5 and xyz have been working on their builds also.  or get (the illegal port called) Buildcraft if those won't work for you.
01:51 VanessaE        about half of my servers' users use the latter now.
01:51 thefamilygrog66 right on
01:51 thefamilygrog66 I was surprised to see that minecraft pe was written in c++
01:51 thefamilygrog66 (i.e. not java)
01:54 ShadowNinja     thefamilygrog66: Most Android games are written in C(++) for speed.
01:54 ShadowNinja     (Or at least most CPU/GPU hungry ones)
01:54 thefamilygrog66 ahh
02:10 thefamilygrog66 well, stu's build is kinda hanging on my tablet
02:12 VanessaE        damn
02:13 thefamilygrog66 the menu screen(s) look okay, and I can type into the various fields, but it hangs when I try to minimize the keyboard
02:13 VanessaE        oh that's known
02:13 VanessaE        don't hide the keyboard :P
02:13 thefamilygrog66 haha, it's taking up half the screen though
02:13 VanessaE        "Note that hiding the keyboard will cause the app to crash under android versions 4.1 and 4.2"
02:14 thefamilygrog66 ahh, there you go - okay will try to navigate with the keyboard onscreen
02:14 VanessaE        if none of the official builds work out, there's also Buildcraft
02:14 VanessaE        ( http://playstarz.com/ )
02:14 VanessaE        a lot of my players use this.  it's buggy, and based on 0.4.8 (but with some of the newer shaders from 0.4.9+)
02:15 thefamilygrog66 is that minetest based?
02:15 thefamilygrog66 ok, cool
02:15 VanessaE        btu it is minetet
02:15 VanessaE        but*
02:15 VanessaE        consider it a last resort :)
02:15 thefamilygrog66 ok
02:15 thefamilygrog66 what about those other two builds you mentioned? same thread?
02:16 VanessaE        for sfan5 you'll have to ask him directly.  for xyz's build, looks like the one you tried uses his code anyway.  stu's on build is in that thread somewhere too
02:18 thefamilygrog66 I'll try buildcraft :)
02:19 domtron         <thefamilygrog66> if your on android try using the "hackers keyboard" it is designed for programming. you can make it very small and it has arrow keys.
02:19 thefamilygrog66 @domtron, thanks for the advice - unfortunately, it crashes as soon as the world is generated, though
02:21 VanessaE        buildcraft does?
02:21 domtron         just checked. The version of the keyboard I have can shrink to 15% of the screen
02:21 thefamilygrog66 no, stu's
02:21 VanessaE        oh ok
02:21 thefamilygrog66 I'm just downloading buildcraft right now
02:21 VanessaE        try it on my "almost vanilla" server :)
02:21 VanessaE        (digitalaudioconcepts port 30005)
02:22 VanessaE        hacker's keyboard is nice, but my eyes suck so I still have it set to take like 45% of the screen :P
02:22 thefamilygrog66 I can builde it
02:22 thefamilygrog66 my eyes are older than yours, V!
02:22 thefamilygrog66 hey, adware. classy
02:23 VanessaE        thefamilygrog66: I said they suck, not that they're old :P
02:23 VanessaE        yeah, it has ads.  but they're easy enough to ignore
02:23 thefamilygrog66 par for the course on this doohicky
02:23 thefamilygrog66 the only android software I've actually purchased is mc pe
02:26 VanessaE        I haven't purchased any of the stuff on mine
02:26 VanessaE        don't use it enough :P
02:26 thefamilygrog66 I use it when I'm lazy
02:27 thefamilygrog66 also, it doesn't cook my bed like my laptop does o_O
02:27 VanessaE        heh
02:27 thefamilygrog66 damn toshibas, always running too hot
02:27 VanessaE        the irony of the "lazy" argument is that I use my PC when I'm lazy -- because the bed is upstairs :P
02:29 thefamilygrog66 so who "made" this version? pretty sketchy
02:34 thefamilygrog66 buidcraft crashes when I try chatting
02:41 Exio4           kahrl: do you have the paste of the "pyramid-generator in java"?
02:43 Exio4           got it, http://codepad.org/XkitNLv4
02:43 Exio4           i'll start sharing it everywhere
05:25 Miner_48er      what causes ERROR[main]: draw_hotbar():mainlist ==NULL ?
05:29 Madprogrammi    Nobody knows :P
05:29 Madprogrammi    Everybody gets it, I think VanessaE said something about a Github patch
05:30 Madprogrammi    By the way, does anybody know how I can get IRC working on my server? It's not responding to any of the standard scripts/procedures.
11:42 MinetestBot     Hello everypony
12:02 Jordach         'lo
12:37 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
13:48 Megaf           Hi all, how to I make mesecons more, instantaneous and with much greater range?
14:59 sfan5           meow
15:00 sfan5           hi everyone
15:00 PilzAdam        hai
15:00 Megaf           Hi there
15:01 daspork         hello
15:03 STHGOM          hai
15:13 Jordach         just had a fist fight with Spotify again to keep it maximised
15:14 Jordach         i even had to force an x session logout :(
15:15 Jordach         aha, i have to maximise it then slightly move the window
15:25 STHGOM          what is a good picture uploader?
15:26 Jordach         imgur.com or minus.com
15:26 STHGOM          k ty
15:30 Megaf           or imagez.com
15:33 STHGOM          bye
15:36 eraldev         hey guys
15:37 eraldev         help
15:37 eraldev         please
15:37 eraldev         how to me set up minetest server on linux ubuntu?
15:37 Jordach         hm?
15:48 reactor         Hey.
15:48 reactor         eraldev: read the instructions on the wiki?
15:49 reactor         If any certain problems arise, we will gladly help.
15:49 reactor         ...does worldedit save chest contents in schemes?
16:00 sfan5           reactor: yes
16:00 sfan5           it s
16:00 sfan5           it saves any metadata
16:01 sfan5           so it will save anything mods store in the node meta
16:09 reactor         sfan5: good
16:09 reactor         sfan5: may I share a modified version of your script with my map?
16:09 sfan5           which script?
16:10 reactor         The one I used to port Pripyat from Minecraft.
16:10 sfan5           yes, you may
16:10 reactor         ty
16:21 reactor         !title
16:21 MinetestBot     reactor: Chernobyl &amp; Pripyat - Imgur
16:22 reactor         k
16:22 reactor         Oh, that's outside the city.
16:23 reactor         oh, should have scrolled lower
16:24 reactor         Those thin flat blocks I modeled last week
16:31 reactor         john_minetest: ty for the link, so much material
16:32 reactor         Just the angles I lacked.
16:44 eraldev         please help me, im setup my minetest server, but im not login on server
16:44 eraldev         http://pastebin.com/cGi43KFc
16:44 eraldev         log
16:46 ShadowNinja     eraldev: That part of the log isn't relevant.
16:48 eraldev         ShadowNinja: where the log is stored?
16:48 ShadowNinja     Megaf: You don't.  daspork's got some client-side autorouting code, but it might not be extensible enough for mesecons.  Client-side mods with custom drawtypes would be ideal.
16:48 ShadowNinja     eraldev: debug.txt.  It is also output to the terminal.
16:58 eraldev         http://pastebin.com/q7Rm8gVu
16:58 eraldev         look at log please
17:00 eraldev         ShadowNinja: look please
17:08 ShadowNinja     eraldev: Um, running as root as a very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea.
17:09 ShadowNinja     eraldev: What version is this?
17:09 eraldev         ShadowNinja: 0.4.9
17:10 ShadowNinja     eraldev: Can you provide more of the log?
17:11 eraldev         shadow: how?
17:15 reactor         john_minetest: http://gallery.pripyat.com/files//8/7/4/4/116.jpg
17:24 daspork         VanessaE: also as a side note I'm from your neck of the woods.
17:25 daspork         Have friends in Mars Hill. been in your town a few times :P
17:26 VanessaE        cool
17:27 VanessaE        john_minetest: hahah
17:27 daspork         I live in Hong Kong and the philippines now but im from Johnson City TN
17:29 ShadowNinja     eraldev: Um, copy-paste it?
17:29 eraldev         ok
17:30 ShadowNinja     eraldev: And pastebin.com is evil.  Use something like paste.ubuntu.com.
17:32 eraldev         pastebin.com/9zbn4iMm
17:33 eraldev         http://paste.ubuntu.com/6960989
17:38 reactor         john_minetest: http://lurkmore.so/images/5/5a/124630362183.jpg
17:40 reactor         Pripyat
17:40 reactor         инжалидов
17:41 eraldev         reactor you russian?
17:43 reactor         Sometmes.
17:43 harrison        spacebo da nyet!
17:45 reactor         вызываeт смepти подoпытных
18:06 eraldev         bye
19:06 Jordach         PilzAdam, is there a way to get a players name from using a chatcommand? because this happens; http://paste.ubuntu.com/6961477/
19:08 PilzAdam        Jordach, the playername is passed as the first parameter to func of the chatcommand
19:08 Jordach         right
19:08 Jordach         func = function() <- wrong and func = function(player) <- right
19:09 Jordach         s/player/name
19:11 Jordach         yup
19:11 Jordach         that works
19:15 PilzAdam        !next
19:15 MinetestBot     Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:16 Jordach         wait
19:16 PilzAdam        !wait
19:16 Jordach         http://paste.ubuntu.com/6961528/
19:21 ShadowNinja     Jordach: function(name, params)  params may not be nil, but may be the empty string.
19:21 Jordach         ShadowNinja, got it
19:21 Jordach         i'm just patching VanessaE's broken sethome
19:21 Jordach         simply because adding an area in someone elses name fucks it
19:22 Jordach         (which means everyone's home becomes the one you just set)
19:22 ShadowNinja     What?
19:23 ShadowNinja     /set_owner SomeOtherPlayer sets everyone's home?
19:23 Jordach         ShadowNinja, the file where homes were located just literally just shat it's own guts out
19:23 Jordach         because one part of it wouldn't parse
19:23 Jordach         ShadowNinja, /sethome player sets everyone#s home
19:23 ShadowNinja     Oh, ok.
19:24 Jordach         i broke it, i'll fix it
19:40 specing         Guys I have trouble getting VanessaE Pipeworks working on proller's server
19:40 specing         I connected mesecons to an injector and activated it, but it doesen't send stuff out
19:40 specing         I does send it if I push manually
19:45 specing         Hmm, I added another mese wire and it works now, but it only sends one
19:49 specing         Is there a simpler solution than a luacontroller?
20:04 specing         But this thing overheats
20:04 specing         :/
20:12 proller         specing, you reach top point?
20:13 proller         its best places on map ;)
20:20 specing         A delayer combined with a NOT gate delivers satisfactory result
20:21 specing         proller: not yet, I setup camp at 10000
20:21 specing         My bags were full
20:21 proller         10000 high?
20:22 specing         10000 x
20:22 proller         go to 18+k x
20:23 specing         I see monta out there
20:23 proller         yes, he build road down
20:23 specing         what are the coordinates of top?
20:23 proller         ~18000,11229,0
20:23 proller         walk fast
20:31 Megaf           specing: blinking plant?
20:32 Megaf           I mean, use it
20:32 Megaf           you cant just turn it on, you must send a signal, and the easiest way is a blinking plant
20:40 dadix           hello all
20:41 dadix           there is a tool for minetest like voxel sniper?
20:41 dadix           I want to build bug structure fast
20:41 EvergreenTree   Not really
20:42 EvergreenTree   There is worldedit
20:42 dadix           big structures
20:42 EvergreenTree   dadix: Worldedit does big structures
20:42 dadix           not terrain
20:42 EvergreenTree   dadix: are you listening?
20:42 dadix           yes
20:42 EvergreenTree   Worldedit does big structures
20:42 EvergreenTree   so what is your problem?
20:42 dadix           worldedit is not for maps?
20:43 EvergreenTree   I don't think you know what worldedit is
20:43 EvergreenTree   :P
20:43 EvergreenTree   Worldedit is a mod which allows you to select regions of land and do stuff with them
20:44 EvergreenTree   like moving, copying, filling, replacing certain blocks, creating shperes, etc
20:44 dadix           with world edit I can build a meteorit and on that meteorit I want to build a spatial station
20:45 dadix           ?
20:45 EvergreenTree   Yes, you could
20:45 EvergreenTree   Like I said you can create spheres in worldedit
20:45 dadix           ok
20:45 EvergreenTree   althought it is mostly only good for precise stuff
20:45 EvergreenTree   voxelsniper is like a painting tool right?
20:46 EvergreenTree   worldedit isn't like that
20:46 dadix           yes
20:47 dadix           you can select brushes
20:47 dadix           with different sizes
20:47 EvergreenTree   hm
20:47 EvergreenTree   There isn't really anything like that in minetest
20:48 EvergreenTree   I think it would be possible, just very slow and laggy
20:50 dadix           with that tool we can build very fast in world
20:50 dadix           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L82GKLEY4WE
20:51 dadix           look
20:54 EvergreenTree   Yeah, I know how it works
20:55 dadix           ok
20:56 dadix           look something nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M183oxcU8zo
20:56 specing         Megaf: solved it with an inverter and delay, works perfectly
20:59 Megaf           it add cpu load
20:59 Megaf           well, I gotta go
20:59 Megaf           cya
21:01 domtron         is there a way the engine could speed up processor intensive mods. For example would supporting c/c++ code within the mod help or is LuaJIT comparable to c/c++ speeds and laggy mods just need to be optimized?
21:30 ShadowNinja     domtron: LuaJIT is comparable to C++ in raw calculations like math.  You can use FFI to add C code to mods, but the issue is propably with design, not the language used if a mod's slow.
21:31 sfan5           let's write our own scripting language for minetest
21:32 dadix           you may use ruby , is fast and is working very good on multicore
21:32 dadix           systems
21:36 domtron         I'm new to Lua, my experience is with python and javascript, are there common pitfalls in using Lua that I should avoid?
21:46 ShadowNinja     domtron: Lua is most similar to Javascript of those two.  See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1022560/subtle-differences-between-javascript-and-lua
21:48 proller         domtron,  you should avoid use lua
21:49 sfan5           proller,  you should avoid not english learning
21:49 Jordach         s/english/engrish
21:50 sfan5           also how are you supposed to use something that is not lua with minetest?
21:54 domtron         I do find Lua a bit... disconcerting. But it's not Java so it can't be that bad. :P
21:55 domtron         ShadowNinja: thanks. I did notice it had a javascript feel.
21:59 domtron         oh... coroutines. Can those be used with minetest or will that cause problems? (I only vagly know what they are so if this is a stupid question just laugh at me)
22:22 specing         Megaf: blinky plant has on/off width of about 20 s
22:22 specing         its too long to fill a furnace
22:22 specing         the ideal for furnacing is around 1s I'd say
22:42 ShadowNinja     domtron: They work with Minetest.  They's basically just functions that can freeze and return as certain points brefor resuming.
22:42 ShadowNinja     before*
23:49 coder           How do I hack a Minetest client?
23:49 Menche          what do you mean?
23:51 Exio4           is anyone on twister?
23:53 coder           How do I modify my client allowing me to fly, noclip etc.
23:53 PilzAdam        coder, by doing 1337 haxxor stuff
23:54 Menche          it's possible to find the collision detection code and turn it off
23:54 Menche          idk where exactly it is though
23:54 Menche          it's mostly client-side
23:56 coder           How do I turn off collision detection?
23:57 Exio4           if you want to be so hax0r you should know how to use your brain and read some code
23:57 Exio4           it is easy and intuitive as long as you aren't a lamer
23:59 coder           I'm afraid i'm a bit of a newbie at LUA/C+/C++. Could you give me some hyints as to where I can find it in my game files?
23:59 Menche          it would definitely be in the C++ code, not in Lua