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IRC log for #minetest, 2014-02-11

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00:30 shnutzer hello
01:09 shnutzer I'm getting the problem of being stuck "halfway" on media loading when connecting to my server and I'm not sure if it's the compilation or just bad hardware the server is running on (which is bad)
01:19 ShadowNinja shnutzer: What does the server's terminal say?  At what step does it stop?
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01:25 shnutzer ShadowNinja, it isn't a debug build and there's literally nothing beyond listening on 0.0.0.0:30000
01:26 shnutzer it's a bare server build, built on gentoo ppc
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02:10 ShadowNinja That's not what I asked...
02:28 * paramat puts gloop on neko's head
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05:07 MichaelRpdx v4.9 on Linux when I go to exit minetest its CPU utilization climbs to 100% and doesn't exit without being killed.   Google was not helpful.  Suggestions?
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06:00 MichaelRpdx This only happens on worlds where I've made lots of config changes - en- and dis-abling mods ...
06:06 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjH54TvFtek&feature=youtu.be
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07:05 zsoltisaw hey all!
07:06 zsoltisaw sfan5: Ping!
07:07 zsoltisaw sfan5: how did the iOS porting go?
07:08 zsoltisaw anyone on this big orange channel?
07:09 zsoltisaw I guess not... Well, i'd best be going now. Bye!
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07:36 * RealBadAngel yawns
07:37 RealBadAngel no comments on video?
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09:01 ruskie http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/containing/2103698 <-- hehe minetest mentioned
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09:40 Megaf Hello everyone
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09:52 Megaf How do I fix this? 07:50:37: ERROR[main]: Corrupted stats file
09:52 Megaf 07:50:37: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found
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10:38 Megaf Hello?
10:38 CheapSeth !
10:38 CheapSeth Hi
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11:01 kahrl Megaf: the first one is an error from PA's stats mod... just delete stats.txt if you can live without it
11:02 kahrl Megaf: for the second one, copy env_meta.txt from a clean world
11:05 ruskie john_minetest, because idiots...
11:23 Megaf kahrl: ok, I will try that,
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11:26 Megaf kahrl: any idea why that happened?
11:29 Megaf kahrl: can´t I just remove env_meta too?
11:32 Megaf yep, it just created a new one
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12:22 Hirato john_minetest: you're actually asking that as a non-rhetorical question?
12:24 Hirato :P
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12:43 Exio4 i wonder if ANYONE ever got the chat bug without freetype
12:44 Megaf Exio4: what bug?
12:46 Megaf Im playing minetest remotely, using VNC, 640x480 with 8 colors
12:46 Megaf minetest looks pretty damn cool in 8 colors!
12:46 Exio4 the crash bug
12:46 Megaf Exio4: well, my minetest used to crash when I send long chat messages
12:47 Megaf is this crash you are talking about?
12:47 Megaf I fixed that getting the irrlight from its website and using it as source, instead of the distros one
12:48 Exio4 wtf
12:49 Exio4 i need a proper inet
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13:56 Vic Why wont minetest work with Pentium 3?
13:57 Vic Please???
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14:05 sfan5 Vic: 1) probably too slow anyway 2) SSE2 missing
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16:32 reactor ...does future_ban ban the listed people one time or every folowing time, too?
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16:49 Megaf reactor: future_man? whats that?
16:49 reactor Megaf: ha ha ha. *slow slap*
16:52 Megaf reactor: oops! typo!
16:53 Megaf reactor: whats a future_ban?
16:53 PilzAdam Megaf, its a mod
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17:11 Megaf PilzAdam: I see
17:12 Megaf There should be something to ban nicknames
17:12 Megaf using wildcards
17:12 Megaf like /ban Guest*
17:14 PilzAdam Peacock has a mod for that
17:23 reactor Megaf: I second that.
17:23 reactor future_ban could be expanded to do that.
17:24 reactor I'm not sure how to do wildcard matching in LUA.
17:25 VanessaE Megaf: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8004
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17:26 EvergreenTree o/
17:27 VanessaE hi
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17:29 IRIXUser I wonder how well minetest runs on SunOS
17:32 rubenwardy Node box editor time!
17:33 rubenwardy and, Hi all!
17:35 reactor IRIXUser: compile it and see.
17:36 reactor Should work, I think/
17:36 reactor s/\//./
17:36 reactor Why doubt?
17:38 reactor 23:38:32: ERROR[ServerThread]: Got packet command: 50 for peer id 48 but client isn't active yet. Dropping packet
17:38 reactor Wtf?
17:38 reactor I get many of these.
17:39 PilzAdam reactor, pass that to sapier when hes arround
17:40 reactor k
17:40 reactor Does anyone else see those often?
17:42 rubenwardy !tell <user> <msg>
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17:43 reactor !tell rubenwardy Surprise!
17:43 MinetestBot reactor: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
17:43 rubenwardy Yo!
17:43 rubenwardy and, nothing...
17:43 IRIXUser reactor: software that claims to be cross platform these days seldom is :(
17:45 reactor IRIXUser: heh.
17:47 Calinou better than seeing "cross-platformes" in French
17:47 Calinou that's what I did in a magazine recently
17:48 IRIXUser i wonder if it'd run on IRIX, for that matter
17:48 IRIXUser IRIX invented OpenGL after all
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17:51 reactor IRIXUser: so try it eh.
17:55 Megaf IRIXUser: I know the pain is to get it working on Mac OS X
17:56 MichaelRpdx VanessaE - The hand image in HDX_256px has some artifacts. is there a pastebin like thing for images?
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18:00 Calinou "OS X", not Mac OS X, as of 10.8.
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18:09 Megaf Calinou: That makes me wonder, if it's no longer Mac OS X, would it be too PC OS X?
18:09 Calinou it was a PC already
18:09 Calinou Personal Computer
18:10 Megaf You know what I meant...
18:10 Megaf or mean
18:10 reactor They're both fundamentally the same since about 2000.
18:11 Megaf I give up
18:18 rubenwardy Wow. That username https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=7975
18:18 rubenwardy !title
18:18 MinetestBot rubenwardy: davidforsure!!!&#039;s profile — Minetest Forums
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18:21 VanessaE MichaelRpdx: people use imgur for that I guess
18:22 VanessaE what artifacts?
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18:22 MichaelRpdx well, I'm an idiot - I looked at the source file and it's fine.  My system is rendering it with streaks from the back of the hand to edge of screen.
18:22 MichaelRpdx Totally a local issue.
18:23 VanessaE that's a glitch in the extrude-for-wield code.
18:23 VanessaE it doesn't handle high resolution imagery very well
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18:24 MichaelRpdx How high of a resolution before that glitch takes effect?
18:24 VanessaE I've been told that applying a very faint alpha along the right edge of the hand (and wiping it all the way across to the right edge of the image canvas) will hide the streams
18:24 VanessaE it depends on your screen resolution, but probably anything over ~64px or so will show at least some streaking.
18:25 VanessaE I have a small patch in place that I got from kahrl that disables the extrude-for-wield code entirely.
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18:25 MichaelRpdx So I can test the alpha fix by editing the image.
18:25 VanessaE yes
18:26 VanessaE edit the image, add an alpha wipe to the right side between the hand and the edge of the image.  try different alpha levels.  If you find a setting that works, please tell me.
18:26 VanessaE the other person who said he thought he could solve it never got back to me.
18:27 whiskers75 Is the community aware of the fastbreak hack?
18:28 VanessaE not familiar with that
18:28 whiskers75 github.com/whiskers75/minetest
18:29 whiskers75 download, press X, grief :\
18:29 VanessaE x ?
18:29 whiskers75 keybind
18:31 VanessaE hard to see your code changes among all those spacing changes >:-(
18:31 whiskers75 VanessaE: lol, emacs went mad at indenting
18:32 RealBadAngel so, since its evening (at least here) and more folks are online, link for my latest vid again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjH54TvFtek
18:34 whiskers75 minetest gaming vids?
18:34 whiskers75 ;O
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18:44 MichaelRpdx VanessaE - do you use gimp?
18:44 MichaelRpdx meaning, I got it to work and I can send the XCF file
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18:51 VanessaE MichaelRpdx: yep, I do
18:51 * VanessaE loads up the hand image
18:52 VanessaE ok, what'd you do to make i work right? :)
18:52 VanessaE it*
18:53 MichaelRpdx OK, I'll email the XCF with the  test images I created.  Bucket fill of 2% (?) opacity saved as PNG and ...OK.
18:53 VanessaE any particular color?
18:53 MichaelRpdx black, as it was the preload
18:54 VanessaE ok
18:54 MichaelRpdx I think any neutral on the black/white specturm would work without causing a color cast
18:55 sfan5 !c 0x400
18:55 MinetestBot 1024
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18:56 MichaelRpdx email of the XCF and test images on its way
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18:57 VanessaE ok
18:58 MichaelRpdx Hmmm, I reloaded my XCF and it doesn't have history.
18:58 MichaelRpdx Time to go to Gimp School
18:58 VanessaE afaik xcf doesn't save the history
19:00 whiskers75 VanessaE: did you have a look at my fastbreak implementation?
19:00 VanessaE whiskers75: briefly, better to raise the attention of the core devs though
19:03 VanessaE MichaelRpdx: I'm trying it locally now.
19:05 MichaelRpdx You're right, it doesn't.  Color me surprised.
19:05 VanessaE ahHAH
19:05 VanessaE 25%
19:05 VanessaE that's the key
19:06 VanessaE at least if I want the effect to persist across the scaling from my 512px -> 256px
19:06 VanessaE lemme check it at the other resolutions
19:08 VanessaE ok, confirmed.
19:08 VanessaE pushing the result to git
19:09 VanessaE thanks!
19:12 sfan5 !c (37.90 / 500, 229.9 / 480)
19:12 MinetestBot (0.07579999999999999, 0.4789583333333333)
19:13 PilzAdam sfan5, thx. that was really useful
19:13 sfan5 yeah
19:14 sfan5 it's (space per GB HDD, space per GB SSD)
19:14 sfan5 s/space/price/
19:15 MichaelRpdx Yay! Glad I could help in a very small way
19:15 VanessaE glad you like the pack :)
19:16 MichaelRpdx Hugely
19:19 MichaelRpdx Now to figure out what mod combination is giving me grief.
19:22 rubenwardy !c foreach(0,2,3,4,5)
19:22 MinetestBot NameError: name 'foreach' is not defined
19:23 rubenwardy !c for x in range(20): x
19:23 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
19:23 rubenwardy !c map(lambda x: x*x, 20)
19:23 MinetestBot TypeError: argument 2 to map() must support iteration
19:24 rubenwardy !c map(lambda: x, x*x, 20)
19:24 MinetestBot NameError: name 'x' is not defined
19:25 rubenwardy !c map(lambda: x, x<10, 20)
19:25 MinetestBot NameError: name 'x' is not defined
19:25 rubenwardy !c map(lambda x: x*x, x<10, 20)
19:25 MinetestBot NameError: name 'x' is not defined
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19:26 sfan5 wtf telekom! why is my internet that slow: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3299455335.png
19:26 sfan5 >Grade: F+
19:26 sfan5 >slower than 82% of DE
19:27 sfan5 !c list(x*x for x in range(10, 20))
19:27 MinetestBot [100, 121, 144, 169, 196, 225, 256, 289, 324, 361]
19:27 sfan5 ^ rubenwardy
19:27 rubenwardy ah
19:27 sfan5 python is not that hard :P
19:28 rubenwardy I know python
19:29 rubenwardy !c for x in list(x*x for x in range(10, 20))
19:29 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
19:29 rubenwardy !c list(-x for x in list(x*x for x in range(10, 20)))
19:29 MinetestBot [-100, -121, -144, -169, -196, -225, -256, -289, -324, -361]
19:29 rubenwardy list(-x for x in list(-x for x in list(x*x for x in range(10, 20)))))
19:29 rubenwardy !c list(-x for x in list(-x for x in list(x*x for x in range(10, 20)))))
19:29 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
19:29 rubenwardy nvm
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19:42 rubenwardy !c 0b110 >> 1
19:42 MinetestBot 3
19:42 rubenwardy wow!
19:43 rubenwardy !c 0b101 & 0b1
19:43 MinetestBot 1
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20:03 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/tree/Properties
20:03 rubenwardy Adds a properties section to the sidebar
20:03 VanessaE cool, ruben
20:03 rubenwardy TODO: editing the name of the nodebox
20:04 rubenwardy :P
20:04 rubenwardy Also, it now uses GPL
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20:06 Calinou what was it under before?
20:06 Calinou rubenwardy, use GPL version 3 "or later"
20:06 Calinou but anyway, good :)
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20:09 rubenwardy CC BY SA 3.0
20:09 rubenwardy Which was stupid
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20:37 iqualfragile Calinou: i have to disagree, there are good reasons against using gplv3 (as opposed to gplv2)
20:37 iqualfragile also i think that most code (yes, including this) should be licensed as agpl
20:40 Calinou it's 2014
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