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01:13 EvergreenTree and then throws it off a cliff
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01:27 EvergreenTree o/
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03:45 SirDigby VanessaE , Why is it only on your vanilla server i get a error on hot_bar null?
03:45 SirDigby something to that effect
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03:47 dattad can someone help me
03:47 dattad what is minetest package name in debian
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03:49 VanessaE SirDigby: because the other servers have already been rebooted with the latest fixes.
03:49 VanessaE Vanilla is still pending because it's too busy to reboot it right now
03:49 VanessaE s/reboot/restart/g
03:49 VanessaE dattad: minetestc55 I think?
03:49 VanessaE but don't use the debian package, it's old.  build from sources if you can.  we need testers :)
03:50 dattad if you can tell me how to compile my programming experience only goes as far as python and java ha
03:50 dattad :D
03:55 ShadowNinja dattad: The README.txt contains instructions.
03:55 dattad ok
03:57 * us_0gb opens Blender for the first time and is greeted by a fiery flower
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04:33 dlkepaos http://pastebin.com/kjgaSgWd
04:33 dlkepaos wat
04:33 dlkepaos just wanna build sthieff :/.
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04:45 ShadowNinja dlkepaos: Um, update or install those packages? And you may fing apt-get easier to use than dpkg...
04:47 dlkepaos yeah i fixed the dependencies
04:47 dlkepaos installs without errors
04:47 dlkepaos im new to debian so confusing for me at first :3
04:48 ShadowNinja Ok.  :-)
04:48 dlkepaos oh yeah
04:48 dlkepaos where is minetest installed
04:48 dlkepaos i got /usr/bin/minetest: No such file or directory
04:48 dlkepaos after doing minetest from xterm
04:49 dlkepaos and if I click the minetest icon in games it says that too
04:49 ShadowNinja Try "which minetest"
04:50 dlkepaos I get nothing
04:52 ShadowNinja Hmmm, sure you installed it properly as root?
04:52 dlkepaos yes
04:52 dlkepaos i tried dpkg -L minetest
04:52 dlkepaos doesnt mention /usr/bin at all
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04:53 dlkepaos I probably did something incorrect but: http://pastebin.com/mN9dw2nJ
04:53 dlkepaos thats the output from dpkg -L minetest
04:54 ShadowNinja Try "apt-add-repository minetestdevs/stable && apt-get install minetestc55" as root.
04:54 ShadowNinja ppa:minetestdevs... rather
04:54 dlkepaos should i remove minetest first?
04:56 ShadowNinja Yes.  You could also try running /usr/games/minetest, but that's a better way to do it.
04:56 ShadowNinja (You will be able to update it with the rest of your system)
04:58 dlkepaos okay
05:01 dlkepaos i did that but Unable to locate package minetestc55
05:02 dlkepaos after adding repository
05:02 ShadowNinja apt-get update
05:02 dlkepaos derp
05:02 dlkepaos :D
05:03 dlkepaos well still unable to locate package
05:03 * ShadowNinja hasn't used apt in a while (pacman FTW! ;-) )
05:03 ShadowNinja Try minetest-c55
05:03 dlkepaos still unable to locate
05:04 us_0gb I think once my new computer comes (tomorrow, I think), I'll use my old one for experiments. For example, one thing I want to do is try out a pacman distro.
05:06 ShadowNinja Hmmm, should work https://launchpad.net/~min​etestdevs/+archive/stable
05:06 us_0gb dlkepaos: In Debian's repos, it's under "minetest".
05:07 ShadowNinja us_0gb: Sounds good. :-)
05:07 ShadowNinja Oh, I only know Arch and Ubuntu packaging.
05:11 us_0gb In Ubuntu, it's also under the name "minetest".
05:11 us_0gb The name "minetestc55" only applies to the Launchpad repository.
05:13 us_0gb I'm not sure why it's under a different name on Launchpad though, to be honest. One could claim it's to allow users to install both the distro version and the Launchpad version, but that is impossible due to file conflicts.
05:13 us_0gb (As in minetestc55 tries to install its files to the same locations as minetest.)
05:14 ShadowNinja The name hasn't been changed on launchpad because it could break some things.
05:14 us_0gb Ah, got it.
05:15 us_0gb So the package in Debian was probably "minetestc55" back when it needed to be distinguished from Minetest-delta.
05:18 ShadowNinja No, back when the game was called "Minetest-C55".  That was changed nearly a year ago IIRC.
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07:57 reactor ...people still use KVIRC?
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08:10 CheapSeth Hi! I'm new to minetest, is there any way to mod it in python?
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08:28 CheapSeth Sorry, I had to leave. Did I miss something?
08:29 reactor A fair amount of silence you did.
08:30 CheapSeth Oh ^^
08:30 reactor Science likes silence.
08:31 reactor ...well not really. Not always.
08:32 CheapSeth Science likes hum… well everything! (Except creationism maybe)
08:36 reactor cretinism*
08:37 reactor It's funny how those the name of that blasphemy reflects mental state of its defenders.
08:38 CheapSeth :D
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08:42 reactor Not reflects. I mean, has similar name to their state.
08:43 reactor The idea people (as well as other lifeforms) "appeared from nothing somehow" is ridiculous.
08:44 CheapSeth Yes. It's like "pop" - Oh look, humans!
08:44 CheapSeth Wtf.
08:46 reactor If all lifeforms (except viri) consist of similar compounds and similar functional parts, it is perfectly logical to conclude there was some common ancestor.
08:46 reactor ...convergence, they might say? Well, how would such complicated molecules as DNA become so similar across all species?
08:48 reactor Such convergence would 1) have nothing that would push it in that direction 2) take very long (more than the age of our planet?) to complete.
08:52 CheapSeth I think they just can't conceptualize life without a god/other
08:53 reactor Slave mind, probably.
08:54 reactor The burden of ages of suppression.
08:54 CheapSeth random (bad) education could be another reason
08:55 reactor Since ancient ages, people have been  oppressed (maybe modern society does that, but in another way). Hence the habitual tendency to make up "masters".
08:55 reactor Education, especially school, is messed up.
08:56 reactor In Russia, they started hammering _RELIGION_ into little children`s heads.
08:59 CheapSeth (It remembers me that Spain has prohibited abortion by puritanism)
09:00 reactor Those will grow up a generation of bigots, reactioners, not accepting and willing to oppose real enlightment.
09:00 reactor s/tm/tenm/
09:00 reactor Pro-lifists, huh.
09:01 reactor I never got them.
09:01 CheapSeth (I'm now wondering if that topic is allowed in this chan ^^')
09:02 reactor Woah.
09:02 reactor I wonder, how did we get in there?
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09:03 reactor Well, my opinion is, why should they let life that has not started yet mess up the already established life of adults?
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09:47 CheapSeth I'm back! Got some internet problems
09:50 Calinou CheapSeth, less classy than SethBling since 2012
09:53 CheapSeth ?
09:54 reactor Calinou: o/
09:54 CheapSeth SethBling? x)
09:59 Calinou a popular YouTuber
09:59 CheapSeth Oh
10:01 CheapSeth I have to go (again)
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10:13 reactor ...can newlines be inserted in the MOTD?
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10:31 reactor !up mike402.no-ip.biz:50000
10:31 MinetestBot reactor: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
10:31 reactor !up mike402.no-ip.biz 50000
10:31 MinetestBot mike402.no-ip.biz:50000 seems to be down
10:34 reactor !up mike402.no-ip.biz 50000
10:34 MinetestBot mike402.no-ip.biz:50000 is up (267ms)
10:34 reactor ...at last.
10:40 Calinou reactor, try?
10:40 Calinou if not, use a mod to make the MOTD
10:40 reactor Hmm. I don't see the MOTD echoed at all now.
10:40 reactor (even w/o newlines)
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11:13 reactor WIsh for a little deathmatch, anyone?
11:13 reactor s/I/i/
11:14 CheapSeth I can't, I'm in a course
11:14 CheapSeth (electronics, the CAN bus)
11:21 reactor Vehicle electronics?
11:21 CheapSeth Yes
11:22 reactor University?
11:23 CheapSeth High School
11:23 CheapSeth It will end in ~5 minutes, I have to go
11:23 reactor Have fun! o/
11:23 CheapSeth Goodbye
11:30 reactor As far as I get it, there is no possibility to run multiple worlds in one server?
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11:45 tiemay what does MP mean on the page for configureing a world?
11:45 tiemay mod pack?
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11:55 rubenwardy Hi all
11:55 tiemay o/
11:56 reactor tiemay: yeah
11:57 tiemay reactor: thanks
11:57 reactor I'm not sure.
11:57 reactor But anytime, mate!
12:08 PenguinDad hi rubenwardy
12:08 reactor rubenwardy: how's the science?
12:12 rubenwardy good thanks. GLaD to be doing it
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12:13 reactor rubenwardy: I see.
12:30 Calinou xy rage quit?
12:31 Calinou not surprised.pcx
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12:43 reactor ?
12:45 reactor ...why do I get abort trap when I exit to menu?
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13:17 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:18 tiemay o/
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13:41 reactor PilzAdam: o/
13:42 reactor ...is there a way to quickly look up a node id from ingame, not grepping through all init.luas in my filesystem?
13:43 PilzAdam IIRC there was a mod for that
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14:09 Megaf Hi all
14:09 reactor I wish it was possible to associate node ids with numbers.
14:09 reactor For easier /giveme.
14:09 reactor Megaf: o/
14:09 Megaf VanessaE, Hi there, what about lava support to pipeworks? Perhaps there could be a settings.lua to let the server admin to choose support it or not
14:10 Megaf What do you think?
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14:53 reactor ...why doesn't static_spawnpoint work anymore?
14:57 Megaf someone decided that way
14:57 Megaf I dislike that
14:58 PilzAdam Megaf, what?
14:59 Megaf nevermind
14:59 Megaf reactor, ignore what I said
14:59 PilzAdam AFAIK static_spawnpoint should work as it always did
14:59 Megaf I miss understood this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/922
14:59 Megaf #922
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15:13 VanessaE Megaf: pipeworks will get lava (and other fluids) support some day
15:13 VanessaE whether it'll be configurable or not, I'm not sure - probably.
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15:17 reactor !up mike402.no-ip.biz 50000
15:17 MinetestBot mike402.no-ip.biz:50000 is up (646ms)
15:17 reactor 646 :(
15:19 reactor PilzAdam: well, it does not work here anymore.
15:20 reactor Oh.
15:21 reactor Well, no, that bug's not the case. I always get spawned at 0,0,0.
15:23 reactor I've checked everything, no luck.
15:24 Megaf reactor, try 0, 10, 0
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15:28 reactor Still the same, Megaf.
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15:32 reactor Bloody hell. I forgot to specify the config.
15:35 reactor Own brain is one's worst enemy, they say.
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15:39 Megaf heh
15:39 Megaf bye all
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15:44 Leoneof hey!
15:45 Leoneof minetest is very fast with nonfree nvidia driver now, the problem was with libcairo2
15:45 Leoneof very smooth
15:45 Leoneof O_o
15:45 Leoneof weird
15:46 Leoneof specing: can you play minetest now? :)
15:47 Leoneof PilzAdam: :)
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16:13 * Jordach pokes VanessaE
16:14 iqualfragile Leoneof: i just removed a stupid mistake from my xorg.conf, now any game runs smoothly
16:15 VanessaE ow.
16:15 Jordach VanessaE, managed to render a titanic 8K RENDER
16:16 VanessaE nice
16:17 Jordach >leaving school >set music to play >screen glitches the fuck out >device force reboots >turns out the display driver shits itself after 85 hours uptime
16:17 Jordach fucking android for ya
16:18 VanessaE welcome to the wonderful world of Linux :-/
16:18 VanessaE rock solid....until you have to do something video-related.
16:18 VanessaE then it's about as stable as windows 95.
16:18 Jordach tell that to evergreen
16:18 Jordach he made video with kdenlive
16:18 VanessaE I woke up to a hard-locked PC
16:18 Jordach (which is actually better than OpenShot)
16:19 VanessaE screensaver triggered some random video driver bug that crashed it quite nicely.
16:20 Jordach VanessaE, i don't use screensavers
16:20 Jordach (i save CPU time :>)
16:21 Jordach i made a 4k and 8k version of one particular render (wallpaper ftw!)
16:22 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/view/​yf3evs8pgz473oz/walpaper8k.png
16:22 Jordach sfan5, ^
16:23 reactor Maybe it's not video, but Linux itself?
16:23 reactor Or the distribution you use? With all these HALs and DBUSes?
16:23 reactor s/ese/ose/
16:23 reactor And oh, SYSTEMDs and PULSEAUDIOs.
16:25 Jordach reactor, the longer my tablet stays on, the greater the chance of it crashing
16:25 CheapSeth Yeah, Linux is really a bad OS, you should use DRMdows or OSXpensive
16:25 CheapSeth .
16:25 Jordach it get VERY unstable after the 80th hour
16:25 reactor Interesting. My brain-damaged machine manages to stay up for weeks.
16:26 Jordach reactor, what do you expect from ARM and Android and Java
16:26 reactor Oh. Android and Java.
16:26 CheapSeth (Mainly Java :p)
16:27 CheapSeth Android (and IOS) are both bad
16:27 VanessaE the OS is fine, it's having to rely on closed-source, buggy drivers to get good performance out of the video hardware that's the problem :-/
16:27 CheapSeth Install ArchARM on your tablet!
16:27 CheapSeth Or another ARM distro
16:28 CheapSeth (I have to go…)
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16:37 Exio4 i don't think so
16:37 Exio4 damn
16:37 Exio4 wrong chan
16:38 PilzAdam nono, its the right channel
16:38 Exio4 ok ok
16:38 Exio4 i thought this was a left channel
16:39 Exio4 also, ew, ARM isn't that bad
16:40 Exio4 if you're used to hybrid archs like x86/amd64 then it is your problem!
16:40 VanessaE well I'd think this channel leans pretty heavily to the left anyway :)-
16:40 Exio4 see, leans and loans
16:41 Exio4 also, android sucks yeah
16:41 Exio4 but better than ios/wp
16:49 sfan5 Jordach: nice
16:49 sfan5 but the clouds look kinda
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16:50 sfan5 too 'real'
16:50 Jordach o/
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16:50 sfan5 not transparent enough
16:50 Jordach EvergreenTree, purr
16:50 * sfan5 puts a kitten on EvergreenTree's head
16:50 EvergreenTree holla
16:50 Jordach EvergreenTree, 8K render get
16:50 VanessaE hey
16:50 * EvergreenTree strokes the kitten
16:50 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/view/​yf3evs8pgz473oz/walpaper8k.png
16:50 EvergreenTree is 8k really necesary?
16:50 EvergreenTree :P
16:51 sfan5 EvergreenTree: future proof FTW
16:51 EvergreenTree Yeah, I suppose
16:51 Jordach EvergreenTree, i tried to kill the OP machines in the Computing Lab
16:51 EvergreenTree Ah
16:51 Jordach chrome crashed a few times
16:51 Jordach blender stayed
16:51 EvergreenTree Do you know the specs of them?
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16:52 * EvergreenTree has been learning how to grenade people in redeclipse
16:53 Jordach EvergreenTree, intel i3, 4GB of ram, Windows 7 x86
16:53 EvergreenTree nice
16:53 Jordach my biggest wtf was at the i3 being in 32bit
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17:36 reactor ...is it normal if MT loads CPU fully?
17:36 reactor I mean, the client, when drawing.
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17:38 VanessaE yup, quite normal
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17:39 reactor What is making me worry it happens even if I throttle FPS.
17:40 VanessaE open source drivers?
17:40 VanessaE oh wait
17:40 reactor Blob.
17:40 VanessaE if you throttle your FPS, your view range will expand.
17:40 reactor Oh, that's why.
17:40 VanessaE so you have to also cap your view range
17:40 reactor I was hoping to limit the load that way.
17:40 VanessaE if you want to cap your total CPU load.
17:40 reactor Yep.
17:40 Exio4 i wonder why, normal cpus today have four cores (or more!)
17:41 Exio4 :3
17:41 reactor 100 metres, still loading to the limit
17:41 Exio4 btw, i3?
17:41 Exio4 that isn't "OP", nor are 4gb of ram
17:41 reactor Exio4: to make use of parallelisation.
17:41 reactor And because you can't overclock z80 to infinite frequency.
17:41 reactor It's still z80.
17:41 Exio4 i wonder why you would want to limit the cpu
17:41 Exio4 you can, you also need infinite energy i guess
17:42 reactor Because I have other jobs to process.
17:43 EvergreenTree Exio4: It's OP compared to most people's computers on this channel
17:43 VanessaE four?  seems like the norm anymore is at least 8
17:44 EvergreenTree I only have 4gb of ram, though it is 16000mhz
17:44 VanessaE (cores)
17:44 Exio4 16?
17:44 EvergreenTree and an amd fx-4300 which is 4 core and clocked at 3.8ghz
17:44 Exio4 VanessaE: intel i7/i5 don't have +4cores
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17:44 VanessaE damn, my box is slow by comparison.  6 cores, 2.8 GHz and only DDR 1333 RAM :P
17:45 Exio4 why slow?
17:45 VanessaE exio:  some AMD processors ship with 8+ cores now and way north of 3.5 GHz
17:45 VanessaE and they don't break the bank, either
17:45 Exio4 84+
17:45 Exio4 what cpus have more than 8 cores outside opterons?
17:46 VanessaE I don't remember now
17:46 * VanessaE checks
17:46 Exio4 and my cpu (6100, 6 cores) is overclocked to 3,7ghz right now :P
17:46 Exio4 it gets up to 4,2ghz (and more in winter!)
17:46 Exio4 with stock cooling, and under 65C
17:46 Exio4 but the few days we got +38C of temp i had this with turbo disabled..
17:47 Exio4 :P
17:47 Exio4 EvergreenTree: i have a 4gb ram module that can get 1600mhz nicely but downclocked...
17:47 * Exio4 is using other cheap module (8gb) because 4gb isn't enough for anything!
17:48 EvergreenTree I'm planning on throwing in another set of the same ram
17:48 EvergreenTree it's two modules
17:48 Exio4 oh, wait
17:48 Exio4 2gb+2gb in dualchannel?
17:48 EvergreenTree yep
17:49 Exio4 i would like to have four 8 gb modules
17:49 EvergreenTree :o
17:49 VanessaE hm, I don't remember now where I saw the > 8 core CPUs.  somewhere on pricewatch anyway
17:49 Exio4 anyway, a nice thing i have here is my mobo :3
17:49 * VanessaE runs four 4GB DDR1333 modules.
17:49 Exio4 http://www.asus.com/Motherboar​ds/M5A99X_EVO/#specifications
17:49 EvergreenTree my mobo isn't the greatest
17:49 EvergreenTree It's probably the next thing to upgrade
17:50 EvergreenTree my cpu idles at around 40C
17:50 Exio4 there aren't more-than-eight cores cpus, and the "way north" in frequency are the 9xxx cpus
17:50 EvergreenTree or 85F
17:50 Exio4 but what room temp?
17:50 VanessaE damn
17:50 Exio4 don't use F
17:50 VanessaE i wonder where I saw it then
17:50 EvergreenTree I know
17:50 VanessaE I must be mis-remembering.
17:50 Exio4 Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0C mobo: 41.0C gpu: 46C
17:50 EvergreenTree Room temp is around 70F
17:50 Exio4 i'm talking in the desktop side VanessaE
17:50 VanessaE fuck it, give me a dual-CPU machine with 8 cores/4+GHz each :D
17:51 EvergreenTree That would be awesome
17:51 VanessaE I'll find a use for them all!! D:
17:51 VanessaE :D
17:51 Exio4 GHz frequency doesn't scale that nice
17:51 EvergreenTree Anyway, afk
17:51 VanessaE yeah I know
17:51 VanessaE but if we're gonna be stuck at ~4 GHz for a while, I'd like to at least push up to that point
17:51 Exio4 browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/2127228 < 4.2ghz (6100)
17:51 Exio4 browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/2130189 < 3.3ghz (6100)
17:52 Exio4 FXs are nice at overclocking yeah, intel cpus aren't that nice for heavy OC, but the main thing is the IPC
17:52 VanessaE hah!  I'm too chickenshit to overclock
17:53 VanessaE I know I've got the cooling capacity to do it
17:53 VanessaE but I don't have the brainpower to do it right or the guts (I don't wanna fry anything ;) )
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17:53 Exio4 your cpu at 4ghz is probably 10% or 20% more powerful than this system at 4ghz
17:54 Exio4 VanessaE: you got enough cooling capacity
17:54 Exio4 you just open the window
17:54 Jordach VanessaE, render farm pl0x
17:54 Exio4 Jordach: can i have some of your rain
17:54 Exio4 i'll pay with DOGE!
17:54 Exio4 ;_;
17:55 * Jordach pets Exio4
17:55 Exio4 VanessaE: 25% more frequency for 20%~ improvement  :P
17:55 Exio4 my FX
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17:56 Exio4 run cpuminer VanessaE, for scrypt
17:59 SmugLeaf scrypt on a decent intel is worth around 50khash/s
17:59 SmugLeaf which is to say not worth much at all
18:00 Jordach >intel >decent
18:00 VanessaE scrypt?
18:00 Jordach lol wat
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18:03 Jordach VanessaE, lol, fail
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18:09 VanessaE I'm arguing with something else.
18:12 ShadowNinja VanessaE: scrypt as in crypt().
18:12 reactor In the end of the day, amd64 is just z80 on steroids, and must die.
18:13 reactor Full of rudiments, having cryptic assembly, power inefficient, etc.
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18:23 VanessaE sorry for the joins/parts.  arguing with my client (and losing)
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18:54 tiemay using world edit, is there a way to specify which orientation torches are placed in?
18:55 tiemay they always seem to generate as if placed on a ceiling
18:59 Jordach tiemay, no, afaik
18:59 tiemay darn
19:02 Jordach PilzAdam, KDE software is fuckin amazing
19:02 Jordach kdenlive gets SHIT DONE.
19:02 PilzAdam told you
19:02 Jordach i tried openshot for some random ol shit, guess what, it kept fucking with webm
19:04 Jordach PilzAdam, my next distro IS kubuntu
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19:10 reactor 01:07:43: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Admin supplied empty password
19:10 reactor 01:08:20: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Admin supplied empty password
19:11 reactor A bot?
19:11 VanessaE no
19:11 VanessaE a default name on World/Buildcraft
19:11 VanessaE equivalent to "Guestxxxx"
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19:30 Jordach PilzAdam, KDE works
19:31 PilzAdam suprise
19:31 Jordach still don't understand why it's better than the well knowns
19:31 PilzAdam +r
19:31 Jordach PilzAdam, bluescreen + compositing + pan & zoom = last video window
19:32 Jordach btw, evergreen did the same thing as me with the greenscreen for faked video
19:32 Jordach that's *WHY* the laptop works :)
19:33 PilzAdam oh, you think its fake?
19:33 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=128627#p128627
19:34 Rhy5 That's cool Evergreen. :)
19:38 Jordach <3 KDE software
19:40 MinetestBot GIT: Selat commited to minetest/minetest: Fix memory leak in database migration 6715c422ae 2014-02-07T11:43:12-08:00 http://git.io/h0As0Q
19:41 reactor ...why do so many players attempt to connect with empty password?
19:45 Rhy5 reactor: Probaly because they don't know what a password is.
19:45 reactor Oh. :)
19:46 Rhy5 It does make alot of sense. One player could be a alien, and they only understand Moonglish.
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19:49 reactor Does servers.minetest.net use static number?
19:53 EvergreenTree PilzAdam: Thank you for pointing me towards kde
19:53 EvergreenTree It's awesome
19:54 EvergreenTree What do you use to launch programs again?
19:54 EvergreenTree I use the khomerun launcher
19:54 reactor Desktop environments are dangerous attractors.
19:54 PilzAdam I use either the icons in my control panel, the search bar or yakuake
19:54 Rhy5 Or you can use Shortcuts. :)
19:54 EvergreenTree yakuake, that's what I was looking for
19:55 EvergreenTree Rhy5: I use a shortcut to open the homerun launcher
19:55 Exio-fx kde is awesome, yeah
19:55 Rhy5 Homerun Launcher? Never heard of it.
19:55 Exio-fx where is Vanessa :(
19:56 Rhy5 Knowing her, probaly updating homedecor.
19:57 EvergreenTree PilzAdam: So it's basically guake for kde?
19:57 EvergreenTree guake works on kde
19:57 EvergreenTree in fact, I'm using it now
19:58 PilzAdam dont really know the difference
19:58 PilzAdam guake is for gnome
20:00 Exio-fx :(
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20:11 Exio-fx Vanessa!
20:12 VanessaE FINALLY
20:12 LazyJ joined #minetest
20:12 VanessaE what a royal pain in the ass that was
20:12 Exio-fx use k10ctl for overclocking your nice phenom :D
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20:13 EvergreenTree Using yakuake now
20:13 EvergreenTree It's basically guake
20:13 EvergreenTree just kde styled
20:14 reactor Bukkake is even better.
20:14 Exio-fx configuration bukkakes
20:14 reactor Configurasty.
20:15 * Jordach plols at reactor
20:15 * reactor reverse plols at Jordach
20:15 reactor ...whatever "plol" means?
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20:15 Exio-fx physical lol, somehow our local lol lets say
20:15 EvergreenTree reactor: physically laughing out loud
20:16 EvergreenTree aw, ninja'd
20:16 Exio-fx with my lag i thought you were first
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20:28 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix invalid check for fread error on extracting zip 3670f5a37b 2014-02-07T12:29:31-08:00 http://git.io/YlaXfw
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20:37 sfan5 meow
20:37 reactor bark!
20:37 Exio-fx waht
20:37 ShadowNinja There, our banlist is a bit saner now.  I have a copy of everything I unset unless we need it.
20:37 Exio-fx shouldn't you just remove old quiets?
20:37 Exio-fx like older than 3months
20:38 ShadowNinja Here's the reset lines: http://ix.io/anK
20:38 ShadowNinja Most of those bans are older than 3 months.
20:38 Exio-fx basically s/-/+/
20:39 ShadowNinja I left a few bans in place (Some of LM's proxies).
20:39 Exio-fx oh
20:39 ShadowNinja Exio-fx: Except that hosts can contain '-', so s/ -/ +/.
20:39 Exio-fx didn't see the bans, i thought that was all quiets
20:39 Exio-fx ShadowNinja: i'm not using /g
20:39 ShadowNinja Mostly bans, but quiets too.
20:40 ShadowNinja Exio-fx: True.
20:40 Exio-fx it'll only change the first match
20:40 ShadowNinja Yep, forgot that.
20:41 sfan5 !c (math.sin(x)/x for x in range(0, 11))
20:41 MinetestBot <generator object <genexpr> at 0x26e7280>
20:42 sfan5 !c list(math.sin(x)/x for x in range(0, 11))
20:42 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero
20:42 sfan5 !c list(math.sin(x)/x for x in range(1, 11))
20:42 MinetestBot [0.8414709848078965, 0.45464871341284085, 0.0470400026866224, -0.18920062382698205, -0.1917848549326277, -0.04656924969982098, 0.09385522838839844, 0.12366978082792272, 0.04579094280463962, -0.05440211108893698]
20:42 sfan5 hm
20:42 ShadowNinja sfan5: *Ahem* -> ##minetestbot
20:42 Exio-fx !c os.exit()
20:42 MinetestBot NameError: name 'os' is not defined
20:42 Exio-fx !c import os; os.exit()
20:42 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:42 Exio-fx aww :(
20:42 sfan5 !c __import__('os').exit()
20:42 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, but no double underscores.
20:42 MinetestBot NameError: name '__import__' is not defined
20:43 sfan5 lolwat
20:43 Exio-fx MinetestBot is mad
20:48 sfan5 yay! display driver had an oops
20:48 sfan5 [1166253.174676] [drm:i915_set_reset_status] *ERROR* render ring hung inside bo (0x56344000 ctx 1) at 0x56344220
20:49 Exio-fx i get those errors all the time
20:49 Exio-fx well
20:49 Exio-fx got, i'm using a nvidia gpu right now
20:49 * Exio-fx wants to buy an AMD gpu and sell this one
20:49 Exio-fx nvidia sucks
20:49 sfan5 I can't swap my gpu (assuming I can't solder (F)BGA)
20:50 Exio-fx oh
20:50 Exio-fx laptop
20:50 sfan5 I want something where I can swap parts next time I buy something
20:50 Exio-fx do you really move the laptop all the time, or use it "enough" for saying it should be your main desktop?
20:50 sfan5 but I also want something I can move it somewhere
20:50 Exio-fx s/desktop/computer/
20:50 EvergreenTree Exio4: I'm using a Radeon 7750 right now
20:50 EvergreenTree it's pretty good
20:50 sfan5 not all the time, but I usually take my laptop with me to somewhere
20:50 EvergreenTree though I don't really have anything to compare it to
20:52 sfan5 damn, I don't know what I should buy when my current laptop breaks
20:53 Jordach Surface 2
20:53 sfan5 no way
20:53 sfan5 I want something I can put xubuntu on
20:53 sfan5 and I don't need touch
20:53 Jordach OLPC :P
20:53 sfan5 aka I don't WANT touch
20:53 sfan5 o: pls
20:54 o sfan5: problem?
20:54 Jordach \o/
20:54 sfan5 a: pisg doesn't like this (well it does, but I don't)
20:54 Jordach a, deal with this!
20:55 specing many ban?
20:55 a sfan5: am i not allowed to use my nicks in here?
20:55 Jordach a, one letter nicks are not allowed
20:55 a really?
20:55 sfan5 a: what Jordach just said is not a ruke
20:55 sfan5 rule*
20:55 Jordach ShadowBot kicks for using nicks repeatably
20:55 a a a a a a a a a a
20:55 a i'm not kicked
20:55 a your argument is invalid
20:56 sfan5 it doesn't trigger for len(nickname) < 3
20:56 Jordach because you're the person saying it
20:56 a Jordach: we had this before and me using the nick before did not cause any problems
20:56 sfan5 a a a a a a a a a
20:56 Jordach yay
20:56 Jordach video stopped freezing
20:56 a you're just jealous at my nicks ;-;
20:57 * MinetestBot gives a some cookies
20:57 a omnomnom cookies
20:57 a MinetestBot: <3
20:57 PilzAdam a, you can complain at #minetest-comnplains if you dont like our rules
20:57 sfan5 >comnplains
20:57 sfan5 writing pls
20:57 a PilzAdam: but sfan5 said it's not a rule.
20:57 sfan5 infact we don't really have any rules
20:58 PilzAdam the one with +o said it is
20:58 sfan5 !g irc rules site:dev.minetest.net
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20:58 MinetestBot sfan5: http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Dev_Log
20:58 john_minetest Hello everypony
20:58 * sfan5 puts Derpy on john_minetest's head
20:58 * john_minetest puts princess celestia on sfan5's head
20:58 * sfan5 puts Rainbow Dash on john_minetest's head
20:59 Jordach john_minetest, i made an awesome outro using blender and kdenlive
20:59 ShadowNinja sfan5: http://minetest.net/IRC#rules
21:00 a now someone tell me
21:00 a is using "a" as nick really a problem in here?
21:00 Exio-fx a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a  a a
21:00 Exio-fx ShadowBot: kick me
21:00 ShadowBot Exio-fx: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:00 Exio-fx then, i guess it isn't
21:01 PilzAdam AFAIK she has an exception for <4 char nicks
21:02 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/Limnoria-plugi​ns/blob/master/FloodProtector/plugin.py#L190
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21:06 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WtVQn4Cqas <- testing :)
21:06 PilzAdam Jordach, thx for sharing
21:06 PilzAdam was looking for a black video all day long
21:07 EvergreenTree ?
21:07 EvergreenTree it works fine for me
21:07 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxujsJ5reU
21:08 PilzAdam !title
21:08 MinetestBot PilzAdam: The Glitch Mob - Warrior Concerto - YouTube
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21:08 iluvpeeps7 hey
21:08 ShadowNinja Hello.
21:08 PilzAdam sfan5, when will MinetestBot get rick roll protection?
21:08 john_minetest It actually sounds better in 1.21x speed. mpv rocks.
21:08 iluvpeeps7 hi Shadow
21:08 iluvpeeps7 Is VanessaE on?
21:09 VanessaE hi
21:09 iluvpeeps7 hi Vanessa :)
21:09 iluvpeeps7 don't worry about the minetest download i have it on my ipad anyways.
21:09 VanessaE ok
21:09 iluvpeeps7 But i don't really like it on the ipad because of the keyboard.
21:10 iluvpeeps7 It makes alot of typos
21:10 sfan5 PilzAdam: when you pull request
21:10 iluvpeeps7 So... why is chat quiet
21:11 iluvpeeps7 Vanessa
21:12 iluvpeeps7 can you do the /msg <name> <description> command on the computer or do you have to use the one on the sides
21:12 iluvpeeps7 because i can't find fluffypillows93 username.
21:13 ShadowNinja iluvpeeps7: What do you mean?
21:13 iluvpeeps7 like if you want to message someone
21:13 iluvpeeps7 do you do the command on chat
21:13 VanessaE peeps:  the chat is quiet because you signed onto freenode instead of inchra :)  this is the general Minetest community channel, not the servers' channel :)
21:14 Jordach iluvpeeps7, typing /msg <minetest / irc nick> <message content> will work ingame and here
21:14 iluvpeeps7 okay whats the servers
21:14 iluvpeeps7 im so dumb o.O
21:14 ShadowNinja iluvpeeps7: irc.inchra.net #minetest.
21:14 iluvpeeps7 Ok brb
21:15 VanessaE ShadowNinja: did you link isis in yet?
21:15 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Nope, I'll work on that now.
21:15 VanessaE ok
21:17 Jordach shit
21:17 Jordach i'm signing along to music again
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21:19 iluvpeeps Vanessa the channel isnt working
21:19 iluvpeeps Hello?
21:20 iluvpeeps ....
21:20 iluvpeeps Vanessa
21:20 iluvpeeps HELLO?????
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21:21 ShadowNinja iluvpeeps: Explain.
21:21 iluvpeeps you said irc.inchra.net #minetest
21:21 ShadowNinja Yep.
21:21 iluvpeeps what do i type in the channel
21:22 iluvpeeps what do i type to join the vanilla server
21:22 iluvpeeps irc
21:23 ShadowNinja iluvpeeps: Set the server to irc.inchra.net, the port to 6697, enable SSL, and put #minetest in the channels box.
21:24 VanessaE she doesn't know how to select a server manually.
21:24 iluvpeeps okay brb
21:27 VanessaE that is, she's not entirely clear of the distinction between irc servers and minetest servers, I guess
21:27 VanessaE but we'll learn her :)
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21:27 iluvpeeps7 its not working...
21:27 iluvpeeps7 i typed -------->        irc.inchra.net
21:28 iluvpeeps7 for the channel
21:28 iluvpeeps7 and it says its a valid channel
21:28 VanessaE peeps:  you need to plug irc.inchra.net in for the *server* address
21:28 ShadowNinja iluvpeeps7: Try this URL: https://kiwiirc.com/client/ir​c.inchra.net:+6697/#minetest
21:28 iluvpeeps7 i mean invalid
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22:06 archermadness i have a gameplay question, how to i get rid of archers?
22:06 Jordach ?
22:06 archermadness they're wandering around killing my friends and i can't undo them
22:07 archermadness if i attack them nothing happens and if i right click them it says show debuginfo or factions
22:07 Jordach you mean the npc by stu right
22:07 archermadness nope, it's on a server
22:07 Jordach hm
22:07 archermadness someone wanted a bunch of archers so i did the /give command
22:08 archermadness and dropped a few, but now they want to get rid of them
22:08 Jordach just use swords
22:08 Jordach or /clearobjects
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22:14 specing wtf, there are tree monsters, too?
22:14 specing I just found something 2 nodes high that has 5 hp
22:14 specing looks like a tree
22:14 specing and its gone
22:16 specing here it is again
22:16 specing How do I screenshot?
22:16 Jordach F12
22:16 Jordach upload to imgur or some other place
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22:20 specing http://imgur.com/Fplceqb,XUT​GM83,j7iNlTg,2brpXUK,TnzfFyv
22:21 specing it hasn't attacked me, though
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22:23 Jordach specing, those are tree monsters; they spawn on normal leaves
22:23 Jordach they're hostile; but they don't appear to be attacking
22:26 Jordach FUCK YEAH
22:26 * Jordach CAN LIVE STREAM TO YOUTUBE!
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22:36 specing Jordach: that one seems to be running
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22:51 john_minetest Jordach: URL?
22:52 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h​u-uLo_C0DY&amp;feature=youtu.be
22:54 john_minetest I meant the livestream
22:54 john_minetest anyway, gtg.
22:54 john_minetest cya
22:54 Jordach john_minetest, i'm able to do it, but not have the hardware
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23:24 tiemay how do I set what default privlages a new player has when joing a server?
23:25 ShadowNinja default_privileges = shout, fast, ... in minetest.conf
23:25 ShadowNinja Or maybe it's default_privs.  It's in minetest.conf.example anyway.
23:31 tiemay ShadowNinja: Thanks
23:31 ShadowNinja You're welcome. :-)
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23:39 ShadowNinja Jordach: Does your capes pull include https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/234 ?
23:39 Jordach 'NOPE.AVI
23:39 ShadowNinja Jordach: Can you fix that?  I'll try to get it merged...
23:40 Jordach ShadowNinja, well
23:40 Jordach merge my capes addition first
23:40 ShadowNinja Fair'nuf.
23:40 Jordach then ask Taoki to fix it
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23:50 MinetestBot GIT: jordach.snelling@gmail.com commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add Sam II e134282093 2014-02-07T15:45:00-08:00 http://git.io/y0zMMQ
23:50 MinetestBot GIT: jordach.snelling@gmail.com commited to minetest/minetest_game: Added a caped player model, which works like the 428a8127cb 2014-02-07T15:45:00-08:00 http://git.io/WXb0Fg
23:50 crystaldynamic Hey
23:51 crystaldynamic I am in IRC :3
23:51 ShadowNinja Yep.  :-)
23:51 crystaldynamic Wohooo :3
23:51 crystaldynamic I can use CheapieBot?
23:52 ShadowNinja You might have meant to join inr.inchra.net #minetest though...
23:52 crystaldynamic I use ShadowBot :3
23:52 crystaldynamic ShadowBot: protect
23:52 ShadowBot To mark your land for protection, move to one corner, dig down into the ground, and do: /area_pos1 Then move to the other corner, build up into the sky, and do: /area_pos2 Then to actually claim it, do: /protect <some description here> For more details, see https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8364 (Look under Land Ownership ).
23:52 crystaldynamic OMG
23:52 ShadowNinja crystaldynamic: Wrong channel.
23:52 crystaldynamic CheapieBot: dating
23:52 EvergreenTree joined #minetest
23:52 EvergreenTree joined #minetest
23:52 crystaldynamic Why?
23:53 ShadowNinja crystaldynamic: I think you want to go here: https://kiwiirc.com/client/ir​c.inchra.net:+6697/#minetest
23:53 crystaldynamic Thanks :3
23:53 EvergreenTree crystaldynamic: So you found your way to #minetest?   cool
23:53 EvergreenTree oh, it was a mistake.
23:53 crystaldynamic Yes, my first time :3
23:53 * ShadowNinja goes off to fix InchraNet's webchat.
23:54 crystaldynamic CRAAAP :3
23:55 ShadowNinja ~deop Jordach
23:56 crystaldynamic MinetestBot: how to make a sword
23:56 crystaldynamic Crap
23:58 Jordach [23:50:38] <MinetestBot> GIT: jordach.snelling@gmail.com commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add Sam II e134282093 2014-02-07T15:45:00-08:00 http://git.io/y0zMMQ
23:59 Jordach WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
23:59 VanessaE \o/ :D
23:59 VanessaE [banana splits theme]
23:59 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81LQnWPVqSI
23:59 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4d7Wp9kKjA

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