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00:53 EvergreenTree Anyone else play Warsow?   Just discovered it
00:53 EvergreenTree it's pretty cool
00:54 us_0gb I have not. What's it about?
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01:24 SirDigby http://i.imgur.com/HRLVV6l.gif
01:25 us_0gb SirDigby: What does that scene have to do with the Obama?
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01:30 SirDigby Nothing
01:30 SirDigby Thats the point
01:30 SirDigby people blame him for stuff he had nothing to do with
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01:32 philipbenr I hear nothing. Silence
01:32 philipbenr nice.
01:33 philipbenr I am on the IRC with total silece. lol
01:33 philipbenr Well, this is completly pointless.
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01:59 hoodedice Darn lol
02:00 hoodedice anyway, which is the most recommended windows build for clients connecting to server, when considering least server lag caused?
02:00 hoodedice One with cURL?
02:03 hoodedice I think I asked...
02:04 hoodedice A STOOPID QUESTION!!!
02:05 hoodedice lemme guess... Evergreentree !
02:06 hoodedice No... Not online...
02:06 * VanessaE hides
02:06 hoodedice -.-
02:07 hoodedice Enke !
02:07 hoodedice Looks like the minetest project has been abandoned. Well, at least I have a credit card to buy Minecraft with
02:08 VanessaE hah
02:08 hoodedice GOT YOU!
02:08 hoodedice plol. Did you not say that cUrl does stuff like torrenting?
02:08 hoodedice Or something?
02:09 VanessaE curl uses http to fetch files from a remote media server
02:09 VanessaE if the minetest server you connect to is configured to tell the client where to go
02:10 hoodedice So it's the same as a browser.
02:10 VanessaE similar idea yeah
02:10 hoodedice And I'm too lazy to config shit, so I'll just give that a pass.
02:10 VanessaE else the client will fetch the media directly from the minetest server via the old protocol, which is about 1/4 the speed of http
02:10 VanessaE curl is also needed for the public announce
02:10 VanessaE and for the client to be able to read from the master server list
02:10 hoodedice If I give all the mods that are used in the server, and my clients use that
02:10 VanessaE (e.g. the public list)
02:11 hoodedice Ok. Therefore, I'll need to build my own mt for ubuntu...
02:11 VanessaE so, you want curl. :)
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02:11 hoodedice Anyway, if people having pre-installed mods that are in my server connect, will they have to re-download the media?
02:11 Enke Hi hoodedice
02:11 hoodedice Hey.
02:12 Enke I was playing a Deathmatch game. not much time to check IRC
02:12 hoodedice Which game?
02:12 hoodedice Sorry.
02:15 hoodedice VanessaE, simple question. Will you walk me through setting up an MT server? I've done half the stuff, port forwarding and shit, but I have a few performance related questions, which might be nooby
02:15 VanessaE heh, I'm the last person to ask performance-related questions of :P
02:15 EvergreenTree hoodedice, I am online
02:15 EvergreenTree DUN DUN DUN!
02:16 hoodedice Hello Evergreen, sorry for the bug.
02:16 VanessaE hoodedice: as long as the media is the same as before, and the server can *find it*, the clients won't re-download it
02:16 hoodedice But don't you have your own server?
02:16 VanessaE (provided they have it)
02:16 hoodedice Okay, that;s great to know.
02:16 VanessaE oh sure I do, but my servers perform rather crappily compared to some others
02:16 VanessaE ask proller.
02:16 hoodedice proller!
02:16 VanessaE he'll tell you his are 100000000% faster than anyone else
02:16 hoodedice Oh yes I know...
02:16 hoodedice (#sarcasm)
02:17 hoodedice Well, I'll just use celeron's recommended
02:18 hoodedice (And I'm running this off a dual core 1.9 GHz celeron with 4 GB RAM)
02:18 VanessaE even my "almost Vanilla" server can't handle more than around 20 users before it begins to lag (the map just doesn't wanna load faster than a certain rate, despite there being ample hardware resources available).
02:18 VanessaE it routinely hits 35 users at its peak every day
02:18 hoodedice Hmm. We are still a long way from stable
02:18 VanessaE and that's with 8 gigs of RAM on a dual core 3.4 GHz i3.
02:18 hoodedice I'm expecting 5 to 10 users
02:19 VanessaE sapier and I have been working on the problem - it's nor hardware-bound, that much we are sure of.
02:19 hoodedice I can see that
02:19 hoodedice Back in  the 0.4.6 days, when I used to play on Peacock's server
02:20 hoodedice Had to reconnect every 15 minutes or so...
02:20 hoodedice Damn laggy otherwise.
02:20 Peacock still lags to hell these days
02:21 Peacock even worse now that there are tons of people connecting and disconnecting every minute, had to code a connection timeout two weeks ago
02:21 hoodedice Ohai Peacock: Sorry for the ping.
02:21 VanessaE proller will tell you that freeminer would have zero lag with 250+ users under the conditions my servers run at.
02:21 hoodedice Oh yes. Man, sometimes I wish I could sue him.
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02:21 Peacock not just proller, there are a few users telling me FM is faster
02:21 hoodedice XD
02:21 * us_0gb becomes a bit disheartened hearing that Minetest is running slow even on fast hardware
02:22 Enke Freeminer is faster for me.
02:22 Enke However, It's not insanely faster, and both run at the same practical speed
02:22 Peacock rubensandwich says so too
02:22 hoodedice Peacock: What code timeout?
02:22 hoodedice Can I has that too?
02:22 us_0gb Hmm. Okay, I'll look into Freeminer. After my laptop finally arrives. It's still not here, and I'm being most impatient.
02:23 hoodedice Sad, us_0gb =/
02:23 Enke In other words, the 10 fps I get is a jump from 45-55, so it's not very noticable on my end.
02:23 Peacock i coded a timeout in between connections so people had time to DL the content before the next person got on
02:23 hoodedice Nice.
02:23 us_0gb Sad indeed. I really hoped it would be waiting for me today when I got off work.
02:23 hoodedice But I don't really need that,
02:23 * Enke likes playing with his DVD-ROM drive when he's bored
02:24 Peacock though after having perused my logs, im entirely confident i had a bot problem
02:24 Peacock *perusing
02:24 hoodedice ? That was correct
02:24 Peacock oups lol
02:25 hoodedice Peacock, what extras do you think are nice for a minetest server to have?
02:25 hoodedice luaJIT and stuff?
02:25 Peacock kick player, a player sqlite instead of player files, and autoclean up of the player info
02:25 Peacock better built in ban (nick and ip)
02:26 Enke http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/getti​ng-the-most-out-of-freeminer-server.48/
02:26 Enke S'mthing that xyz did.
02:26 hoodedice Are those things that are already available for addition?
02:26 Peacock bot detection would be nice too, right now i do that by matching locations
02:26 Enke He spawned around 100 bots
02:26 Peacock i doubt he'd release them onto other servers though
02:27 hoodedice I don't think I'll get bots, so yeah, out of the question.
02:27 Peacock it was either some pathetic child, or some pathetically jealous admin lol
02:27 hoodedice what's this player sqlite? Is there a dload link on the forum? Or is it compiled with the mt build?
02:28 Peacock thats engine stuff, i dont do engine stuff, i just think it's stupid to have seperate files for each player, and to load them *all* into memory
02:28 Peacock 1 week of operation = 5K files
02:28 Peacock ironically, windows file explorer does a better job of loading 5k files than thunar lol
02:29 hoodedice I think I will just set up a basic server and then get back when I feel that I need something
02:29 hoodedice You know you're addicted to Linux.
02:29 Enke 5K = 5000 files or 5KB?
02:29 hoodedice When you call windows a crappy distro
02:29 Peacock lol yeah righte, i dualboot on all machines now
02:29 hoodedice And 'This Computer' as 'file explorer'
02:30 hoodedice (cite: Windows 8.1)
02:30 Peacock hoodedice one word of advice, make players register before letting them on :P
02:30 Enke Windows 8/8.1 *Shivers*
02:30 hoodedice Enke, DIE!
02:30 hoodedice I love windows 8.1
02:30 Enke I don't like it.
02:30 hoodedice I was actually contemplating installing xubuntu on this laptop
02:31 Enke Specs?
02:31 hoodedice Ah yes, Peacock, closed server it is.
02:31 hoodedice 1.9 GHz dual-core celeron
02:31 hoodedice 4 GB RAM
02:31 hoodedice intel HD 2500 OEM
02:31 Peacock ill be keeping a table of registered users, and anyone not on it gets refused at prejoin :p
02:31 Enke So, about what I've got, except I've got and AMD processor
02:31 hoodedice ten-point touchscreen XD
02:32 hoodedice (lolololol)
02:32 Enke No touchscreen.
02:32 hoodedice Peacock: Automated process?
02:32 Peacock well you just use prejoin, it gives you name and ip
02:32 hoodedice And how exactly do I go about doing that? Mod?
02:33 Peacock like all things: mod yeah :p
02:33 Peacock im still missing a few functions but i'll send it your way once its done
02:33 hoodedice Still building? hmm.
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02:34 Peacock i got alot of shit to update, im using mods from an older game of mine for the next map
02:34 hoodedice hmm. ok.
02:34 Peacock even though its got 4x the nodes, it's alot faster than the last game i made
02:35 Peacock either due to landrush or tek but they're both out this time
02:35 hoodedice FOr now, I'll just be building minetest to match with sfan's bild
02:35 hoodedice How come?
02:35 Peacock i think the claims in landrush were probably too small so you had to have many per user, and they were all loaded into memory
02:36 Peacock so i wrote a semi autonomous areas thingy where the server admin (me) creates areas. each area has its mayor who can add people to them
02:37 Peacock that translates into half a dozen claims instead of dozens of claim per big building lol
02:37 Peacock (half dozen for the whole map)
02:37 Peacock what people do to each other inside their areas is no business of mine lol the mayor can boot griefers from his area
02:37 hoodedice Nice. Though again, I won't be needing that lol
02:37 Peacock not if you vet your players
02:38 hoodedice vet?
02:38 Peacock make sure theyre not assholes/proxies/bots before letting them on
02:39 hoodedice Yes. This server is only for this certin community I used to be on
02:39 hoodedice I'm like getting only active non-troll members on.
02:39 hoodedice Probably won't even be a public server.
02:40 hoodedice Also, Peacock, is LuaJIT worth it?
02:56 VanessaE yes, it is.
02:58 hoodedice Thank you.
02:58 hoodedice How do I include that when compiling an ubuntu build? I'm following the directions on the wiki
02:58 Peacock sorry was finishing dishes
02:59 hoodedice YOUR WIFE DOESN'T DO DISHES?
02:59 hoodedice =O
02:59 hoodedice THE HORROR!
02:59 Peacock naw, they usually come out as dirty when she does em lol
03:00 hoodedice Also, no problem.
03:00 hoodedice XD
03:00 Peacock or with soap residue
03:00 hoodedice profl
03:00 Peacock females... lol
03:01 Peacock she's just as dangerous with the cooking lol cross-contamination, under-cooked meat, fires, etc. lol
03:03 Peacock and she does geezer-style seasoning (re, not nearly spicy enough)
03:03 hoodedice And then they ask "Why did you marry her then?"
03:03 Peacock big tits
03:04 Peacock :P
03:04 hoodedice *facepalm*
03:04 Peacock please, you should hear what she says about me lol
03:04 hoodedice Sometimes I wish I never grew up. All this nsfw talk gets me like *urgh*. Also, I'm 18
03:05 hoodedice Anyway, how do you add LuaJIT while compiling?
03:05 Peacock i think you need libluajit common and dev
03:05 hoodedice Okay,, suppose I have those
03:06 hoodedice How do I actually make the compiler procees that as well
03:06 hoodedice ?
03:06 Peacock if its installed it finds it on its own
03:06 hoodedice nice.
03:07 hoodedice Also, wtf with this overheating?
03:07 hoodedice tlp, where are you?
03:07 Peacock overheating?
03:08 hoodedice yeah, laptop.
03:08 Peacock by how much?
03:08 hoodedice It's not even the CPU, somewhere around where the hard disk must be
03:09 hoodedice or maybe the GPU
03:09 Peacock probably the battery
03:09 hoodedice Not the battery
03:09 hoodedice Doesn't happen in Windows
03:09 Peacock linux acpi sucks lol
03:09 hoodedice =/
03:09 Peacock (power management for laptops running linux i mean)
03:09 hoodedice I get it.
03:10 Peacock well you always have to make sure, people here love pouncing on semantics lol
03:10 Peacock (thats when you know they're out of arguments :P)
03:11 Peacock though i think you can install cpufreq or something like that and setup a powersaving profile
03:11 hoodedice I don't think it's the cpu...
03:11 hoodedice Cold air out of the vent
03:11 hoodedice Only this base.
03:11 Peacock well if its the gpu... what gfx driver you running?
03:12 hoodedice The one that shipped by default
03:12 Peacock your laptop shipped with linux by default?
03:12 hoodedice I'll be adding the intel official drivers later on
03:12 hoodedice the drivers that shipped with Xubuntu by default
03:13 Peacock well yeah thats not gonna help an overheating gpu
03:13 Peacock opensauce drivers suck with fan control
03:13 Peacock thats if they can read the sensors properly at all
03:14 hoodedice I'll be editing the tlp files for now.
03:14 hoodedice What was that graphical sudo command? sudogk
03:14 Peacock read a funny article on slashdot the other day about how nouveau now supports opengl 3.3 lol catalyst driver is at 4.2.######
03:15 hoodedice Well, at least they're trying.
03:16 Peacock yeah but their efforts could be better spent coming up with say, a decent video editor
03:16 Peacock or drivers for hundreds of peripherals that aren't supported at all in linux lol
03:17 hoodedice oooh!
03:17 hoodedice I think I can overclock here!
03:19 Peacock hm, does linux support 3tb drives?
03:19 hoodedice Dunno. I'm using 80 GB only
03:19 hoodedice Set up xubuntu just for mt server
03:20 hoodedice 8.1 blows ubuntu out of the water,
03:20 hoodedice (TRAITOR!)
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03:26 hoodedice Installing intel drivers is a breeze. nVidia and AMD should learn a lesson
03:26 hoodedice "nNidia, f*** you" -Linus Torvalds
03:26 hoodedice *nVidia
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03:28 dad1 ttt
03:29 hoodedice ?
03:29 dad1 just testing..
03:30 hoodedice This is #minetest
03:30 dad1 ya, I know. I've just been reading up on it and reading the wiki, it led me here
03:31 hoodedice Ok, welcome to the minetest IRC. How may we assist you today?
03:31 dad1 started out checking it for the kids, then all of a sudden I seem to be playing it quite a lot..lol
03:31 dad1 so far I'm ok, just doing the reading right now on how everything works
03:32 hoodedice Do you require assistance with rehabilitation support for intense addiction with free and open voxel based sandbox games?
03:32 dad1 haha.....got me...lol
03:32 dad1 I just got out of flight sim rehab too
03:33 hoodedice Please feel free to register with the forums. The IRC tends to get quite off-topic. And empty.
03:33 hoodedice Lemme guess, flight gear?
03:33 dad1 ok, ty anyways.
03:33 dad1 Xplane
03:33 hoodedice Aw.
03:33 hoodedice You paid $80 for that?
03:33 dad1 I have Xplane working quite well on linux now
03:34 dad1 about 45 really, but it works pretty much out of the box
03:34 hoodedice Hmm. I played it on android once. As realistic as a brick.
03:35 hoodedice On PC, the controls were crappy.
03:35 dad1 I also played BMS falcon a lot, but it requires a win to work
03:35 hoodedice Nice dad. Educating your kids with FOSS, I see =)
03:35 dad1 I have saitek controls its really decent
03:35 dad1 lol
03:36 dad1 ty for the chat, see you around..
03:36 hoodedice ok
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03:37 hoodedice !next
03:37 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
03:39 * hoodedice is rebooting. Might be back.
03:51 fwilson !next
03:51 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
03:51 fwilson lol
03:51 Peacock minetestbot is a prostitute now
03:52 fwilson .-.
03:52 Peacock !clevelandsteamer
03:52 Peacock !10dolla
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03:53 hoodedice VanessaE, I'm building MT on ubuntu, for ubuntu. I downloaded the depends
03:53 hoodedice But I need a build of a certain commit
03:53 hoodedice NOT the latest one
03:54 VanessaE git reset --hard <that commit ID>
03:54 VanessaE then cmake/make as usual.
03:54 VanessaE I assume you git cloned the sources.
03:54 hoodedice I'm doing it for the first time. Can you please elaborate?
03:54 hoodedice I sudo apt-add installed it
03:54 VanessaE erm
03:55 VanessaE you installed what exactly?
03:55 hoodedice I see that the wiki uses wget.
03:55 hoodedice The dependencies
03:55 VanessaE ok that's fine.
03:55 VanessaE now to get the sources,
03:55 hoodedice http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
03:55 VanessaE git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git
03:55 VanessaE cd minetest
03:55 hoodedice Yeah, but that'll fetch latest
03:55 VanessaE git reset --hard <the commit ID you want to stop at>
03:56 hoodedice okay. full commit id?
03:56 VanessaE cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE= foo bar blah etc; make -jwhatever
03:56 VanessaE yes, the full ID, but the first several digits might work too
03:56 VanessaE (I always use the full ID)
03:56 hoodedice The rest can do. Only stuck at getting the correct commit.
03:56 hoodedice Brb. Will try it out
03:58 hoodedice So how long will the clone stay at that commit? Until a new commit is made, or until I clone it again?
03:58 VanessaE it'll stay there until you pull or reclone.
03:59 hoodedice Ok, folder is set up, thank you very much Van.
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04:00 hoodedice That j option has something to do with cores AFAIK
04:00 VanessaE yeah
04:00 ShadowNinja ~aka add next echo Another satisfied customer. Next!
04:00 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
04:00 hoodedice I have two. What should I put in there?
04:00 VanessaE #cores + 1 or 2
04:00 VanessaE so do -j3 or -j4
04:00 ShadowNinja Aaaand, feature copied.  :-)
04:00 hoodedice okay
04:01 ShadowNinja phrik had that first though... (A bot similar to ShadowBot)
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04:01 hoodedice !next
04:01 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
04:01 hoodedice @Shadow: =P
04:02 hoodedice 1 warning...
04:05 ShadowNinja hoodedice: You should actually use git checkout <SHA>, not git reset --hard <SHA>.
04:06 hoodedice Tell that to VanessaE XD. She's the one who told me
04:06 VanessaE force of habit
04:06 VanessaE I always get myself into trouble with git checkout...
04:07 VanessaE (at least if it isn't a branch I know exists locally e.g. a "real" branch)
04:09 hoodedice 3 warnings, Do you want them Shadow?
04:12 hoodedice Darn, forgot minetest_game.
04:14 VanessaE bbl.  bedtime.
04:15 hoodedice Last Q
04:15 hoodedice !
04:15 hoodedice What do I do with all these cmake files?
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06:42 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #33 from electricface/master https://gi 2014-01-27T22:41:26-08:00 http://git.io/an6L9g
06:42 MinetestBot GIT: electricface commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: //fixedpos No commas between the numbers https://gi 2014-01-27T20:23:47-08:00 http://git.io/ZTwsAg
06:44 reactor Eh!
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07:49 * RealBadAngel yawns
07:49 * reactor throws some itch powder in RealBadAngel's mouth.
07:51 RealBadAngel ouch
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08:30 specing proller: wtf, a 27 node long section of the road just went missing
08:31 specing Sokomine: I see you were @ Road
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08:56 proller specing, maybe not loaded block. try to rejoin
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09:01 proller VanessaE, hoodedice   wat?
09:12 specing proller: it is loaded, because there are several more 3-long and other lenghts missing
09:12 specing and some cobble stairs
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09:13 Peacock im disappointed, you did not ping me
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09:28 specing Peacock: so sorry ;)
09:28 Peacock are you ashamed of our love?
09:28 Peacock :P
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09:36 specing Peacock: indeed
09:43 hoodedice Peacock: Still awake?
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09:51 Peacock yeah i still got a few beers left to go :P
09:57 hoodedice v7 vs paramat's lua mapgen
09:57 hoodedice I can't decide which one to use
09:58 Peacock paramat's are more interesting (and complete)
09:58 Peacock though 3 years of MT its no surprise im a little bored with the default stuff
09:59 hoodedice Yes, they are indeed 'complete'
09:59 hoodedice Bt they lack some stuff found in PilzAdam'snodetopia
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10:02 Peacock well im pretty sure pa didn't write a mapgen, he provides a game, mapgens are just terrain
10:05 hoodedice He wrote the biomes code
10:05 hoodedice For v7
10:05 Peacock yeah but biomes is what's on the surface, it doesn't create mountains or rivers or define elevation
10:05 hoodedice Someone should just get over it and finish off v7 already.
10:06 hoodedice Yes, it doesn't, but still better than just snow
10:07 hoodedice That doge server... still up?
10:12 Peacock the last incarnation no
10:12 Peacock working on the next one
10:13 Peacock (most of that work is adapting old mods of mine to newer versions of MT)
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10:23 hoodedice Peacock: How can I kick ALL players, except those with specific nicks?
10:26 Peacock that sounds tricky
10:27 Peacock im not even sure the kick functions been pulled yet
10:27 Peacock all i can do right now is prevent unapproved nicks from logging on
10:28 hoodedice Your code? The one you told me last night?
10:29 reactor ...can you initiate disconnection using system utilities?
10:29 reactor Firewall for sure, but it's too expensive to modify rules because of some fuck
10:32 reactor Oh yeah.
10:32 reactor tcpdrop
10:32 reactor Use it to kick players?
10:32 proller specing, tnt pull !
10:36 hoodedice Peacock, kick functions HAVE been pulled.
10:36 hoodedice kaeza's mod came out on 13-12-13
10:44 Peacock ill have to update some time, i hear voxmynips has param2 as well
10:45 hoodedice Yes, added maybe 2 days ago
10:46 hoodedice So I guess coloured lights can be added now?
10:50 Peacock id be more eager to upgrade if most of the devs could agree on shit lol
10:50 hoodedice XD
10:50 Peacock right now i cant help but think things might change or change back lol
10:51 Peacock as for coloured lights, dont know why you're asking, if it ever gets done it wont be by me lol
10:51 Peacock *asking me
10:54 hoodedice lol
10:54 hoodedice Just speculating if its now possible
10:55 Peacock it's always been possible, the willpower depends on who's in charge :P
10:55 hoodedice Put a doge reference on a site. used Comic Sans for fon't. Y U NO WORK?
10:55 hoodedice Realised. Xubuntu -.-
10:56 Peacock its funny we have like half a dozen shaders, and one light color lol
10:57 hoodedice Is that a lot?
10:57 hoodedice 6 shaders?
10:57 Peacock and half a dozen texture thingies too, none of which i can tell the difference with my eye sight lol
10:57 reactor Haven't there been coloured light blocks in Mesecons? Or do these emit white light regardless?
10:58 Peacock likely white light
10:58 hoodedice white light thru a yellow block
10:59 hoodedice Just like in real life XP
11:00 hoodedice NICE!
11:00 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3653
11:01 hoodedice Just make a nice room with a door, lock it and allow access to players that are pre-registered only
11:23 hoodedice DAMN!
11:23 hoodedice I cloned mods into /bin
11:23 hoodedice How do I move them into /mods?
11:29 specing proller: exams :(
11:31 hoodedice specing: Can you help me out with fixing my clones?
11:31 hoodedice Will a simple git mv be sufficient?
11:32 specing hoodedice: did you commit them?
11:32 hoodedice I just 'git clone' ed them in a terminal
11:32 specing then mv them
11:32 hoodedice That'll work?
11:32 specing not git mv, the ordinary mv
11:32 specing it should
11:33 hoodedice But what about updating?
11:33 specing cd into mod, git pull?
11:33 hoodedice wow.
11:33 specing very git
11:33 hoodedice What about renaming. Will updating work even after renaming?
11:34 hoodedice *renaming folders
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11:56 specing hoodedice: try
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12:09 hoodedice git pull is only updating minetest... Weird
12:10 hoodedice Maybe also because all mods are already updated.
12:11 hoodedice Thanks a lot
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12:54 sfan5 meow
12:54 sfan5 hi everyone
12:56 us_0gb Hello sfan5!
12:57 PenguinDad squawk
12:57 PenguinDad hi sfan5
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13:37 VanessaE hi
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15:36 VanessaE hah!
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15:37 hoodedice Anyone?
15:37 hoodedice I got PilzAdam's nodetopia, but it is breaking mod compatibility
15:37 VanessaE I looked up "god damn it" on a web search to get someone a reference on the origin of the phrase and its religious meaning (e.g. taking G*d's name in vain)....Wikipedia article on "damnation" came up....and it won't load.  I guess G*d damned Wikipedia :D
15:37 hoodedice I want the mapgen, but with working mods
15:38 VanessaE doesn't it use mapgen v7?
15:39 hoodedice Yes
15:39 hoodedice With biomes
15:39 hoodedice ie, it has something else than stone too.
15:40 hoodedice the problem is with default, creative, blah blah
15:40 * VanessaE pokes hmmmm
15:40 hoodedice I'm thinking of copy-pasting all those into nodetopia's mods
15:40 VanessaE mind you mgv7 is apparently considered.....unstable.
15:40 hoodedice As in? It was very stable as fas as I'd seen
15:41 hoodedice And I'm only playing creative. I just need the landscapes and canyons
15:42 hoodedice VanessaE,  Also, this works for me en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnation
15:42 hoodedice Didn't know damn had such a deep meaning XD
15:43 VanessaE it worked on the second try.  I was trying to make a joke.
15:43 VanessaE also, stable as in the API I guess is subject to change
15:44 hoodedice Won't mind that. If anything breaks I'll just use WE to transfer objects
15:48 hoodedice So...
15:48 hoodedice I'll jst copy paste everything needed from minetest_game for now
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15:55 Javafant Hi
15:56 hoodedice Hello. Welcome to #minetest. How can we help you today?
15:56 PenguinDad hi Javafant
15:56 Javafant I'm having some trouble getting a minetestserver to run
15:56 hoodedice Can you please elaborate on your problem?
15:56 Javafant A friend of mine tried to update it to 0.4.9 and now I can't reach it anymore.
15:57 Javafant the client gets time outs.
15:57 Javafant and the server output doesn't even show that the client is trying to connect
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15:57 hoodedice Has your friend forwarded the port correctly?
15:57 Javafant it's a root server so no need to forward the port.
15:57 Javafant I also triet using an ssh tunnel.
15:58 Javafant didn't change a thing.
15:58 harrison can't chat -- must code -- 04,00the code is all!
15:58 Javafant telnet localhost 30000 didn't work either.
15:58 ShadowNinja Javafant: Minetest's ptotocol uses UDP, telnet is TCP.
15:58 Javafant ah that explains that :)
15:59 Javafant is there a way to test if somethings running on a udp port?
15:59 ShadowNinja Javafant: What's the server's address?
15:59 Javafant spiele.frickelbox.de
15:59 Javafant the server's not runnig currently, wait
15:59 Javafant now it's running
15:59 ShadowNinja ~up spiele.frickelbox.de
15:59 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: spiele.frickelbox.de port 30000 is up (701ms)
16:00 ShadowNinja It looks like it's working.
16:00 Javafant then why am I getting timeouts when I try to connect?
16:01 hoodedice Even I can't connect.
16:01 ShadowNinja I don't know.  Are you setting the address and port correctly?
16:01 Javafant I think so.
16:01 ShadowNinja No ban ALL THE THINGS mods.  ;-)
16:01 ShadowNinja s/./?/
16:02 hoodedice eh?
16:02 hoodedice !up spiele.frickelbox.de:30000
16:02 MinetestBot hoodedice: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
16:02 hoodedice !up spiele.frickelbox.de 30000
16:02 MinetestBot spiele.frickelbox.de:30000 is up (152ms)
16:02 Javafant oh now I get a server output
16:02 hoodedice That's weird.
16:03 Javafant resending timed-out reliable to …
16:04 ShadowNinja 0.4.9-dev might be better...
16:04 Javafant so git master branch?
16:04 ShadowNinja Yep. There's been lots of network work recently.
16:05 hoodedice Sir, I think I've resolved yor case.
16:05 hoodedice *your
16:05 PenguinDad with git master i was able to connect to the server
16:05 Javafant hoodedice: git master?
16:05 hoodedice Enter the server address into a browser.
16:05 Javafant and?
16:05 hoodedice There will be an IP Address there. Type that into Minetest client and you're good to go
16:06 Javafant wtf
16:06 hoodedice It works on my side, sir.
16:06 Javafant yep
16:06 Javafant seems to work
16:06 * Javafant is confused
16:06 hoodedice I hope that helped, sir?
16:06 Javafant yep, thx
16:06 hoodedice Thank you for visiting #minetest
16:07 hoodedice !next
16:07 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
16:07 Javafant hehe :)
16:07 hoodedice YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
16:07 hoodedice I wanted to do that like bad!
16:07 MinetestBot 4*4h4o7o7d7e8d8i8c3e3 3rece6i6v6es a4 4c4o7o7k7i8e8 8f3r3o3m Mi6n6e6test4B4o4t7*
16:08 Javafant any idea what could be causing this?
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16:08 Javafant PenguinDad: did you enter the ip directly?
16:09 PenguinDad nope, I entered the domain name
16:09 Javafant ah k
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16:29 Jordach meow
16:29 VanessaE hi
16:29 Jordach i was toying with one of blender's new features
16:30 hoodedice hey Jordach
16:31 Jordach OUCH
16:31 Jordach .png weighs in at 8mb
16:33 Jordach VanessaE, i was bored and had some of my old pictures from photography
16:34 VanessaE ?
16:34 Jordach hold on
16:35 hoodedice Later people
16:36 hoodedice And does MinetestBot really give out cookies? OR is there a way to make it do so without someone typing out the command?
16:36 Jordach http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/​Photography-and-Blender-430137937
16:37 Jordach something different :)
16:37 VanessaE interesting.
16:37 Jordach VanessaE, the shadow is oddly accurate :)
16:38 Jordach i'm probably going to experiment further
16:40 sfan5 why is autoconf/make/whatever so painful
16:41 Jordach http://xkcd.com/416/
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16:59 * Jordach looks at Transmission; 700kb/s down, *seconds later* 40kb/s down
17:04 * Jordach sees synergy(?!) in #minecraft
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17:35 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
17:36 Jordach ello
17:36 VanessaE hi
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17:44 hoodedice Anyone has a copy of Bumped by RBA?
17:45 hoodedice texture pack
17:45 PilzAdam quote of the day: "What is a new versone for a minetest 0.5.0 0.5.1 0.5.2 or 0.5.3"
17:45 hoodedice XD. I saw that
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17:46 hoodedice Anyway PilzAdam, is there a way to use your nodetopia's mapgen in minetest_game?
17:46 PilzAdam probably
17:47 hoodedice Hrm. Why did you define new nodes?
17:47 hoodedice Oh, of course custom game...
17:47 hoodedice I'm so stupid
17:48 PilzAdam yes you are
17:48 PilzAdam :-p
17:48 hoodedice Thank you.
17:48 hoodedice !next
17:48 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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18:12 hoodedice Hey rubenwardy
18:12 rubenwardy Hio
18:12 hoodedice Compiled my first build last night. Feels like awesome.
18:17 * Jordach considers something new
18:20 hoodedice Go Home Jordach!
18:20 hoodedice You're a traitor, Jordach
18:20 hoodedice XD
18:21 hoodedice *flies away*
18:21 Jordach lol
18:22 ShadowNinja We've set up a test forum at phpbb.minetest.net.  This may replace the current forum if all goes well.  Comments on it?  (Yes, it needs a theme, working on that)
18:22 Jordach i'm going to pull the ENTIRE SKIN LIBRARY of addi's in a special render
18:24 Jordach think array modifier in blender + 75 skins
18:24 VanessaE pfft I have 109 skins in my small library.
18:26 Jordach VanessaE, you don't realise how much space 75 skins * 12 * 12
18:26 Jordach requires in a blend, do you?
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18:27 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, eh.. Im not a member of "members"?
18:28 VanessaE how much space would that be?
18:28 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: You're in that group, and in the Developers group.  I guess members is your default group...
18:28 Jordach VanessaE, think 1 player = 1m^2 (they take 1 block 1*1*2)
18:28 VanessaE oh you meant visually
18:29 VanessaE thought you were talking storage requirements
18:29 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, no, it lists "Members" as "Non-Memperships"
18:29 Jordach !c 75*1.5*1.5*2
18:29 MinetestBot 337.5
18:29 Jordach 337.5 blocks required (1.5m spacing)
18:29 PilzAdam where can I change the style?
18:29 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: What?!
18:30 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Only Prosilver is enabled ATM.
18:30 ShadowNinja (But you can change it in your UCP)
18:31 PilzAdam wtf is that animated gif next to topics?
18:32 PilzAdam and why isnt there a "New Posts" link in the topic list?
18:33 PilzAdam oh, there is one, but its like 0.5 x 0.5 pixels
18:37 ShadowNinja Developer is your default group now, and you have the text for it.
18:38 ShadowNinja s/text/title/
18:38 PilzAdam I dont like the stlye
18:41 sfan5 ShadowNinja: can we please use a theme that looks more minetesty atleast
18:41 sfan5 ?
18:41 sfan5 i want to know how it would look..
18:43 PilzAdam the search is as bad as the current one: http://phpbb.minetest.net/​search.php?keywords=carts
18:43 PilzAdam ... why is [code] green?
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18:47 PilzAdam and why exactly can I read "trash" and "Moderator talk"? ;-)
18:49 Jordach we've already got a working solution, why FIX IT?
18:49 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, ehm, all links to topics will be broken
18:49 PilzAdam I guess thats enough to not move
18:49 VanessaE Jordach: two words:  edit history.
18:50 VanessaE Jordach: two more words:  rage quits.
18:50 sfan5 Vadtec: two words: fork PunBB
18:50 sfan5 damnit
18:50 sfan5 VanessaE*
18:50 VanessaE lol tab complete FAIL :)
18:51 ShadowNinja sfan5: Yes, I already said I'm working on that.
18:51 VanessaE sfan5: by the way this stuff has been reading, it would be easier/less work to switch to phpbb or anything else besides punbb than it would be to fork and fix it
18:51 sfan5 ik, but what about <PilzAdam>  all links to topics will be broken ?
18:51 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Hmmm, maybe you're set as a mod or I messed up the forum privs...
18:52 VanessaE I'm still not clear what he meant by that....
18:52 VanessaE oh
18:52 VanessaE one post links to another, etc.
18:52 VanessaE that would be a problem for sure, yeah
18:52 ShadowNinja sfan5: Well, there's nothing we can do but leave oldfoeum.minetest.net or similar.
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18:52 Jordach mmm
18:53 VanessaE mark all the old stuff as read-only, delete all the old content that isn't linked-to from the new forum.
18:53 Jordach raspberry milkshake :)
18:53 PilzAdam http://phpbb.minetest.net/viewto​pic.php?p=127474&amp;f=3#p127474
18:53 VanessaE (or which has no links to it from within the old forum)
18:53 PilzAdam ^^ ShadowNinja
18:55 VanessaE well it's only a difference between ?pid= and ?p=  isn't it?
18:55 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Stop mentioning the style!  It will be changed!
18:55 VanessaE can't that be translated somehow?
18:55 VanessaE (ignoring the subdomain, which I presume will be changed)
18:55 ShadowNinja The IDs might be different, but it might be doable with a mod.
18:56 ShadowNinja BBL.
18:56 VanessaE well let's assume all the new post IDs start at some number guaranteed to be higher than the hghest ID of the old forum  + 1000 or something
18:56 VanessaE then such a translation should (in theory) be fairly simple.
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19:15 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix chat commands display. https://gi 2014-01-28T11:14:36-08:00 http://git.io/oDzf-A
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19:22 EvergreenTree o/
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19:24 twoelk hm, where can I download a forum backup before it gets lost in transition?
19:26 VanessaE hey EvergreenTree
19:31 VanessaE twoelk: [01-28 14:30] <xyz> VanessaE: there http://a.pomf.se/nwqzhf.tar.gz
19:32 twoelk oops you get what you ask for ;-p
19:34 twoelk that was rather a sarcastic comment than a request .... but I wonder what I can do with that file ... might be interesting
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19:35 VanessaE it might be useful, who knows.  if a post gets garbled during the transfer, it can be restored manually if necessary
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19:50 PilzAdam heh https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/pull/1112#issuecomment-33510913
19:56 Jordach lol waypoints (we need REI's minimap now!)
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19:58 VanessaE given how many people clamor for a map, maybe it's time a client-side feature were added for that.
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20:08 VanessaE ShadowNinja, PilzAdam: small glitch error in farming:  you can till someone's lawn even if they own it (areas mod, uses the engine's protection function afaik)
20:09 VanessaE s/till/hoe/
20:09 * Jordach uses a cash register to ho VanessaE's lawn
20:10 VanessaE till 1  (tĭl) - tr.v. tilled, till·ing, tills - To prepare (land) for the raising of crops, as by plowing and harrowing; cultivate.
20:10 VanessaE so :P
20:35 PilzAdam my vote for topic of the week: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=127655#p127655
20:36 PilzAdam bye
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21:32 john_minetest Hello everydoge
21:36 specing wow
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21:56 john_minetest was skating on the ice today.
21:56 john_minetest fell.
21:57 john_minetest much hurt.
21:57 john_minetest very arm.
21:57 john_minetest so ouch.
21:57 john_minetest wow.
22:01 reactor Pwned.
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22:47 john_minetest http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/​2013/03/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-fake-dj.jpg
22:48 john_minetest http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/upl​oads/2013/09/gta-5-violence-comic.jpg
22:49 john_minetest http://www.allprofilecovers.com/wp-co​ntent/uploads/2012/05/459-382x142.jpg
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22:51 Exio4 WE ALL LIVE IN A YELLOW SUBMARINE, YELLOW SUBMARINE, YELLOW SUBMARINE
22:55 Enke What kind of song is that?
22:55 Exio4 http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics​/beatles/yellowsubmarine.html
22:57 Exio4 how funny, no internet for like an hour and half and coded something that took me 4~ hours w/ internet
22:57 Enke I wonder why?
22:58 Enke :P
22:58 EvergreenTree :P
22:58 Enke Ninja'd!
22:58 Exio4 baby you can drive my car ~ and maybe i love you ~
22:59 Exio4 i only have 11mb left in my 3g plan so i'm out
22:59 Exio4 bye bye now
23:03 john_minetest Lol, I know a lot of beatle songs and I can sing tenor of some of them.
23:03 john_minetest Also tenor of "my heart will go on"
23:03 john_minetest and some others.
23:06 twoelk is it good or bad now that irc has no sound?
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23:08 Enke Very very very very very very good.
23:09 EvergreenTree ^ Very good
23:10 Enke Did we mention that it was very good.
23:10 Enke *?
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23:21 john_minetest If you want to know, join teamspeak.
23:21 john_minetest Get mad.
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23:21 john_minetest "I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these?"
23:22 Peacock ^ for a second i thought you were harrison :P
23:22 john_minetest I will tell my scientist to invent a combusible lemon that burns your house down!
23:22 Peacock had another window overlapping on xchat
23:22 john_minetest lol
23:22 john_minetest It is a quote from portal 2
23:23 Peacock ah, sweet sweet coffee lol tho 6pm is a little late to be waking up
23:24 Peacock even stranger is making dinner at 8am XD
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23:33 Peacock paramat does archipelago use setmgparams to disable mudflow or do it have to add it?
23:34 paramat hi Peacock, i decided to convert 'moonrealm' into a moon mod, so far i have vacuum nodes that drown the player unless they have a spacesuit in inventory, also auto-setting of gravity when entering or leaving the realm, next footprints
23:34 paramat Peacock, you have to add it
23:35 Peacock actually, will adding it after having created the map make any difference?
23:36 Peacock does this look right? http://pastebin.com/EQWEf104
23:36 paramat i cant remember if flags can be reset ...
23:37 Peacock well i can probably edit the file in the world folder, future gen should be fixed
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23:38 paramat are you using 049dev or 048 + hmmmmm's nomudflow commit?
23:38 Peacock testing today's git and FM at the same time
23:38 paramat hehe
23:38 Peacock nothing like side-by-side comparison :p
23:39 paramat the pastebin looks okay ... as far as i know
23:39 twoelk seems FM has no pillar jumping
23:40 Peacock wait do i need to add the other flags to that function like trees caves and biomes blend
23:40 Peacock pillar jumping?
23:41 paramat not sure ... it confuses me :)
23:41 twoelk jump place block under your feet = gain hight
23:41 Peacock lets test it out with a test map
23:41 Peacock gimme a min or two
23:44 Peacock nope did something wrong
23:44 Peacock frak i forgot v6_ lol
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23:45 paramat yeah if you're using 'set mapgen params' i would set all the other flags there instead of in .conf
23:45 Peacock okay perfect the function adds v6_nomudflow to the flags without removing the other ones :)
23:45 paramat hmmmm posts he intends to redo mapgen params actually ...
23:46 Peacock yeah i saw lol
23:46 Peacock ideally just an api function where you pass a table of params would do fine for most of us lol
23:46 harrison 04,00<john_minetest> "I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these?"
23:46 harrison 04,00<Peacock> ^ for a second i thought you were harrison :P
23:47 harrison THIS IS A OUTRAGE! NONE SHALL IMPOSTER THE HARRISON
23:47 Peacock kill the imposter, and dispose of the witnesses
23:48 Peacock honestly i dont know who came up with this mudflow, but it looks god damn awful lol perfect square outlines and blocks of dirt ontop trees, i always thought it was a bug XD
23:49 Peacock ive never been in a mudslide but ive seen YT's of it, they tend to push things like, oh, trees, roads and houses out of their way, rather than flow over it lol
23:51 twoelk there was a raining gravel bug on VE-creative once, looked like dirty snow
23:51 paramat :D flow mud is celeron's work
23:52 paramat it just flows mud off sheer cliff edges to the ground below i think, if you fly around fast you can see it happening at mapgen time
23:52 Peacock lol i dont get that if he doesn't like weather why code such a feature? lol
23:53 Peacock "im not satisfied with the mapgen griefing via caves so let's add mud flow!" XD
23:53 Peacock (just poking fun)
23:54 twoelk yeah, tree griefing caves are not nice
23:55 paramat Peacock, remember to redefine default:ice with 'is ground content = false' to avoid those largecavegen holes along chunk edges
23:57 twoelk I wonder if highland ponds could be added to Mt.Meru
23:57 Peacock right now im trying to figure how to add those two conf settings to set_mapgen_params :/
23:58 Peacock (biome,freq_desert)
23:59 paramat so ideally mud should not flow over chunk borders, but it does because otherwise default mapgen would have lines of nomudflow along chunk borders, trees grow over borders to for the same reason ... and large caves :)

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