Time Nick Message
00:00 Enke "Is it on?"
00:01 Peacock well those are tech support hotlines lol
00:01 Enke I have a friend in IT, he says that's one of his most used questions.
00:01 Peacock though at least the call doesn't end with idontknow or wontfix lol
00:02 ZStar2 sup
00:03 Peacock soup
00:12 adab hey VanessaE give me edit rights?
00:13 VanessaE edit rights on...?
00:13 kaeza s/edit rights/interact/ ?
00:30 Sokomine is there a way to make the background of image_button fields in formspecs brighter?
00:32 Peacock might try a higher contrast bg for your form
00:34 Sokomine can that be set? might be a good idea in that case. hm
00:34 Sokomine where do i get one from?
00:34 * Sokomine looks around hopefully
00:34 Peacock not sure i never really looked into changing the backgrounds, i just know some mods do it
00:35 Sokomine hm, right. i saw that on technic on vanessas server
00:35 Sokomine perhaps that's an option...
00:36 Peacock personally i like the dark glass look of the default background, but some people prefer the MC style more
00:37 Sokomine yes, it's nice. the trouble is that the image_buttons have a pretty dark background. tools are difficult to see. and image_buttons are in this case more practical than actual inventories
00:38 Peacock in that case, you could always use a standard button with an item_image besides it as a workaround
00:42 Darkangel i forget but where do u put new mods u made in? what part of the forum?
00:43 VanessaE Modding General
00:44 Peacock and if it's approved it will go into Modding Colonel
00:44 Darkangel kk thx
00:44 Peacock perhaps even Modding Admiral :D
00:45 Sokomine you've got to build a fleet first before you can mod the admiral
00:45 Darkangel ya i got another bomb in the nuke pack coming soon more stuff and effects will come l8r
00:45 Peacock neutron, hydrogen?
00:46 Darkangel good idea forgot about those kind
00:46 NakedFury make a Voxel photon bomb
00:46 Darkangel but i got Atomic added
00:46 Peacock neutron is supposed to leave everything inorganic intact
00:47 Peacock theres also incendiary (firestorms)
00:48 Peacock might also wanna add radiation (air + damage)
00:50 Darkangel that will be coming l8r when i get all the bombs set
00:50 Peacock dont forget mines, those should go off when players walk by :D
00:50 Darkangel lol
00:53 Darkangel well ima prob make a Forum here soon so ya can put in ur request in of what bomb ya want in minetest so i dont forget on ya
00:53 Peacock personally im working on adding the knife from return to castle wolfenstein: single blow kill, with complementary goat sound
00:53 Darkangel not bad
00:59 Darkangel Post ur bomb request here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126638#p126638 .... will be worked on right away when posted
01:08 iqualfragile Darkangel: that is not the right place to post this
01:09 iqualfragile better put it here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=9
01:09 Darkangel ok
01:18 Darkangel just makin sure but ya mean here? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126640#p126640
01:18 paramat Hi hmmmm, i noticed that 'is ground content = false' for no cavegen griefing, and the 'no mud flow' mapgen flag are still undocumented in lua-api.txt and minetest.conf example ... just in case you wanted to write those yourself, i dont expect you to ;)
01:19 hmmmm well i didn't add in is_ground_content, so it didn't occur to me that i should
01:24 EvergreenTree My new computer is running!
01:25 EvergreenTree It has an AMD FX-4300 CPU, G.Skills (2x2gb) ddr3-1600 ram, an xfx radeon 7750 graphics card, corsair 200r case, corsair CS430 psu, and some micro atx asus mobo
01:26 EvergreenTree also running kubuntu on it
01:27 EvergreenTree actual partlist: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/EvergreenTree/saved/33ms
01:29 Darkangel NICE speculations
01:30 paramat hmmmm, latest progress with paragen lua mapgen, screenshots https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126320#p126320
01:31 hmmmm it looks cool, but it just makes the case for hardware lighting even stronger
01:31 hmmmm the amount we can do that looks good is caused by the inflexible lighting mostly
01:40 paramat Hi VanessaE, how's snowdrift mod? (perhaps a bad time to ask) and what don't you like about particles?
01:42 paramat Oh just saw your post in the forum
01:43 paramat snow mod has a very CPU intensive snowfall, thats partly why i wrote snowdrift, to replace that
01:43 paramat snowdrift creates no noticeable effect even on my old laptop
01:46 paramat in fact all the weather mods i know of are way too heavy, people are always complaining, it's down to how you use particles, not if
01:47 Peacock ideally i still think weather should be faked with an animated slide in front of the camera
01:53 paramat Hi Pea, if you updated to island 0.2.3 i hope the snow and ice are okay, and the mapgen continuous :)
01:54 Peacock haven't had a chance yet, was finishing the craps table today and then went lag-hunting lol
01:55 Peacock disabling a few hud elements helped alot
01:56 Peacock next up is updating the mapgen and the algea farms to use the stuff :)
02:01 paramat Good to see it's so popular, perhaps partly due to the terrain being a refreshing change :} it's funny though because the mapgen is so crude, probably my worst
02:02 Peacock well people complained about waterworld because there were no islands, so this seemed like a good fit :-)
02:03 paramat VanessaE, test snow mod with it's own snowfall disabled, even the old pre-LVM version was pretty fast :)
02:21 EvergreenTree gotta go, cya guys
07:23 SirDigby This just in: lex luthor will be played by matt damon
10:22 webdesigner97 hi
11:38 Jordach i should stop the LSD http://i.imgur.com/NEXDkJj.png
11:39 Jordach actually wait
11:40 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/k4SFY5o.png <- there we go
12:05 reactor Hello ynorbyreve
12:06 Jordach hey john_minetest
12:13 reactor john_minetest: how polite
12:22 VanessaE hi john
12:23 reactor o/ VanessaE
12:23 reactor How's the science?
12:24 * Jordach is getting the disability allowance sorted
12:26 reactor Bus factor?
12:26 reactor 66Also, o/ Jordach
12:28 VanessaE going okay here I guess
12:29 sfan5 meow
12:29 * sfan5 puts a kitten on VanessaE's head
12:29 sfan5 hi everyone
12:30 kaeza mornings
12:31 * VanessaE just puts it in OldCoder's pile
12:31 VanessaE no kittens today
12:31 VanessaE hi kaeza
12:31 sfan5 :-(
12:32 * reactor sneezes
12:32 reactor May I use yout kittens for testing?
12:32 reactor s/ut/ur/
12:33 VanessaE no.
12:33 VanessaE there are plenty of rats and oerkkis around for that
12:56 reactor Why not?
12:57 VanessaE because they're too cute
12:58 reactor They're allergenic, too.
12:59 reactor allergenous*
13:00 reactor Damn it, I cщn't rзmember the dщmn wфrd,,,,
13:08 * sfan5 puts a kitten on john_minetest's head
13:08 * john_minetest takes it and lets it run into a box
13:08 * reactor puts sfan5's head on a kitten
13:09 sfan5 D:
13:09 * sfan5 puts Derpy on reactor's head
13:09 reactor Derby?
13:09 reactor Oh! Look at that! A pony expert! And you were denying!
13:10 reactor What kind of hoove is called a "derpy" hoove?
13:11 reactor -
13:11 reactor dash
13:12 reactor It is dash-shaped, rainbow-coloured. The author has a lot of imagionation.
13:13 reactor ENOUGH!
13:13 * reactor takes it off the head and throws at sfan5
13:13 * sfan5 puts Rainbow Dash on reactor's head
13:13 MinetestBot 4R4A4I7N7B7O8W8 8D3A3S3H
13:13 * reactor shoves tissue full of snog in sfan5's mouth
13:14 sfan5 !rainbow meow meow meow meow reactor meow meow meow
13:14 MinetestBot 4m4e4o7w7 7m8e8o8w3 3m3e12o12w12 6m6e6o13w13 13r4e4a4c7t7o7r8 8m8e3o3w3 12m12e12o6w6 6m13e13o13w
13:14 * reactor uses rainbow dash in typesetting.
13:20 Jordach plol
13:21 MinetestBot 4r4e4a7c7t7o8r8 8f3t3w
13:21 reactor Depends on the area reactor is applied to.
13:21 reactor s/to/in
13:22 reactor Meh. Nobody reads fineprint anyway.
13:22 Jordach reactor, i can in theory make a render of Pripiyat
13:23 reactor I wouldb e glad to see it.
13:23 Jordach i'd require the source workld
13:23 reactor The central square is the only ready place.
13:23 reactor Uh... let be blow dust off my FTP.
13:23 reactor s/be/me/
13:24 Hirato I speak kitten
13:24 Hirato ~rainbow mew mew mew mew
13:24 ShadowBot Hirato: 04m07e08w 02m12e06w 07m08e03w 12m06e04w
13:24 Hirato bleh :(
13:24 Hirato !rainbow mew mew mew mew
13:24 MinetestBot 4m4e4w7 7m7e8w8 8m3e3w3 12m12e12w
13:24 ImQ009 Hirato, dafuq
13:24 Hirato :D
13:24 ImQ009 You are leaking
13:24 Jordach LSD*
13:24 Hirato hi ImQ009
13:25 Hirato !rainbow meow meow meow meow
13:25 MinetestBot 4m4e4o7w7 7 8m8e8o3w3 3 12m12e12o6w6 6 13m13e13o4w
13:25 ImQ009 ~rainbow john madden john madden john madden john madden
13:25 ShadowBot ImQ009: 04j07o08h03n 12m06a04d07d08e03n 12j06o04h07n 03m02a12d06d04e07n 03j02o12h06n 07m08a03d02d12e06n 07j08o03h02n 06m04a07d08d03e02n
13:25 Jordach ~dice 2d12
13:25 ShadowBot Jordach: 12 and 10
13:25 Jordach \o/
13:27 Jordach ~dice 2d6
13:27 ShadowBot Jordach: 1 and 5
13:27 Jordach fuckin DnD
13:28 Hirato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ltm8iKGlKk
13:28 arsdragonfly ~dice -2d-2
13:28 ShadowBot arsdragonfly: Error: Dice must be of the form d
13:29 arsdragonfly ~dice 2d0
13:29 ShadowBot arsdragonfly: Error: Dice can't have fewer than 3 sides.
13:30 arsdragonfly Can't it look like a coin?:-[
13:30 Hirato ~dice 4d6s1
13:30 ShadowBot Hirato: Error: Dice must be of the form d
13:30 Jordach arsdragonfly, assume 1 = nothing
13:30 Hirato dice plugin is lame, bot is a leper
13:44 Jordach sfan5, the 1080p version does not have the ghosting
13:44 sfan5 1080p rendered by who?
13:44 Jordach me
13:45 Jordach you've rendered it wrong
13:46 sfan5 :-(
13:46 * sfan5 blames blender
13:47 Jordach http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/VolleyBall-at-the-Beach-428049806?ga_submit_new=10%253A1390225657&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1
13:48 Jordach s/that link/ http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/VolleyBall-at-the-Beach-428049806
13:48 Hirato in before RBA makes this real time
13:49 sfan5 s/realtime/realtime with like 10 fps on anything that isn't a gaming rig/
13:49 Hirato you mean minetest doesn't already perform like that?
13:49 sfan5 no
13:49 * Hirato vanishes
13:49 Jordach he's got a point :P
13:50 sfan5 just buy a new cpu or gfx card
13:50 Hirato do I? That comment was mostly flamebait :P
13:50 Jordach GFX card doesn't work with minetest :P
13:50 Jordach Shaders are CPU computed :P
13:50 sfan5 wat
13:50 sfan5 the cpu only compiles them
13:51 Hirato new CPU won't do shit unless you do assembler level shit for AVX2 or something :p
13:51 Jordach sfan5, irrlicht as to pass the frames to the GPU (which the CPU already renders for the GPU)
13:51 Hirato or make it multithreaded :P
13:51 sfan5 a cpu is too slow for such stuff anyway (even when utilizing avx2, sse and stuff like crazy)
13:52 sfan5 the cpu doesn't render anything
13:52 Hirato as for GPUs, they can only push vertices so quickly
13:53 sfan5 Jordach: can the ghosting appear when using 16bit png instead of 8bit?
13:53 Jordach sfan5, anti-aliasing needs 16BIT
13:53 sfan5 you had 8bit png pre-selected
13:53 Jordach hm
13:53 Jordach odd
13:53 Jordach did you use 16bit?
13:53 sfan5 yes
13:54 Jordach try with 8
13:54 Jordach because that might have been why (and don't fucking compress it) :P
13:54 sfan5 >dont compress it
13:55 Jordach sfan5, quality pl0x :P
13:55 sfan5 have fun DL'ing 50 MB with 100 KBps
13:55 sfan5 lol
13:55 Jordach sfan5, i can wait :P
13:55 sfan5 xz is lossless compression
13:55 sfan5 "part 132-2040"
13:55 Jordach bullshit - every compression has it's loss
13:55 sfan5 no
13:55 * sfan5 compressed /dev/urandom to prove Jordach wrong
13:56 sfan5 compresses*
13:56 sfan5 or wait
13:56 sfan5 >xz is a lossless data compression program and file format which incorporates the LZMA2 compression algorithm.
13:56 sfan5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xz
13:56 Jordach nope.avi ;)
13:56 Hirato bloody luddites
13:57 sfan5 ok
13:57 sfan5 Jordach: prove that run-length-encoding has loss of entropy
13:57 Kray Jordach: wat
13:58 Jordach Kray, wat
13:58 Kray are you serious
13:58 Jordach sfan5: prove that run-length-encoding has loss of entropy
13:58 Jordach
13:58 sfan5 do you mean "prove that run-length-encoding has gain of entropy" by any chance?
13:59 sfan5 because that is easy to prove
14:01 sfan5 Jordach: 'part 1178-2040'
14:01 Jordach part 202-510
14:01 Jordach rendering at 1080p to make sure
14:02 Jordach Savant - Spacewolf (Original Mix) ftw :P
14:02 sfan5 Kubbi - 4 Repeating Chords ftw :P
14:03 Jordach Excision - Swerve (Specimen A Remix) :D
14:03 Jordach ^ been at #1 listened to recently
14:03 sfan5 'part 1602-2040'
14:04 Jordach 288-510 :P
14:04 Jordach if i was in the US, i'd over clock to 9.xGHZ
14:05 sfan5 lol
14:05 sfan5 you would need to put your pc outside then
14:05 Jordach BURY the fucking thing in the SNOW
14:05 Jordach OC'ers have made P4's do that :D
14:06 Jordach 350-510
14:06 sfan5 that'll work until some snow melts and short +12V and +5V of the PSU
14:06 sfan5 'part 1964-2040'
14:06 Jordach 388-510 :D
14:07 sfan5 it's done (excl. blur) and don't see ghosting yet
14:07 Jordach nearly done here too :P
14:07 * sfan5 wants a 4K tv
14:08 Jordach o/
14:08 Jordach :3
14:08 EvergreenTree o/
14:08 EvergreenTree o-
14:08 * sfan5 puts Derpy on EvergreenTree's head
14:08 EvergreenTree o_
14:08 Jordach <3
14:08 sfan5 Jordach: the blur causes the ghosting
14:08 Jordach sfan5, strange
14:08 EvergreenTree kde is awesome
14:08 EvergreenTree :D
14:08 Jordach it doesn't appear at 1080p :(
14:08 sfan5 s/kde/xfce/
14:09 EvergreenTree I installed cubuntu, but it was missing a lot of features from when I had it installed on ubuntu
14:09 Jordach EvergreenTree, i've got the heater on and my P4 overclocked
14:09 EvergreenTree *xubutu
14:09 Jordach and it's cold in here still :)
14:09 EvergreenTree so I tried kde
14:10 EvergreenTree use your computer as a heater! IT will totally not destroy your cpu
14:10 EvergreenTree :P
14:10 EvergreenTree o/ kaeza
14:10 Jordach EvergreenTree, already jigsawwed a hole in the case for that
14:10 Jordach my P4 exerts 60 centigrade
14:10 EvergreenTree ah
14:10 kaeza \o EvergreenTree
14:10 EvergreenTree my cpu temp seems to float around 100 degreed farenheit
14:10 * Jordach wonders why Minetest doesn't have dimensional doors
14:11 sfan5 Jordach: pffff, psensor reports 94°
14:11 EvergreenTree that would require new dimensions
14:11 EvergreenTree which has already been discussed
14:11 Jordach EvergreenTree, but but awesomeness
14:11 EvergreenTree indeed
14:11 sfan5 Jordach: where can I disable blur
14:11 Jordach sfan5, nodes
14:12 Jordach or change the camera settings
14:12 Jordach change DoF to about 23
14:12 Jordach you'll see a little X move forward
14:14 sfan5 mhm
14:22 Jordach sfan5, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-200114-142211.php
14:23 sfan5 wAT
14:23 sfan5 wat*
14:25 Jordach renders fine for me
14:25 Jordach both with 8/16
14:29 reactor 20:10 < EvergreenTree> use your computer as a heater! IT will totally not destroy your cpu
14:29 reactor I.T. will. Totally.
14:31 EvergreenTree
14:31 EvergreenTree Don't you know sarcasm when you here it?
14:32 puhfa hey, are you guys aware that the 0.4.9 (default windows build) crashes (access violation) pretty often when youre sending chat messages?
14:32 reactor *Warning! Sarcasm corruption at -16384 percent.
14:36 sfan5 puhfa: no
14:36 puhfa hmm
14:37 puhfa well, no special characters, just standard ascii in the messages
14:37 puhfa could be a problem with the gui too, since it usually happens when ive edited my message before sending it, but cant be sure
14:37 sfan5 file a bug on github: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues
14:37 puhfa but... that is hard work!
14:37 puhfa sigh, okay
14:38 puhfa hmm there apparently is one already
14:38 puhfa https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1100
15:14 sfan5 meow
15:14 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/tOzb0dU.jpg
15:15 * reactor plays a recording of dog barking
15:15 reactor s/dog/a dog/
15:17 * sfan5 dogs a barking of play recording
15:26 reactor I like Markov chain generators, too.
15:28 lostonearth how does one make their mintest server public / private?
15:28 reactor There is an option in minetest.conf
15:29 lostonearth any clue waht to look for in there?
15:29 lostonearth couldn't find it in there earlie
15:31 reactor server_announce
15:32 lostonearth ty, i assume it keeps it private if it's commented out, right?
15:32 reactor idk
15:51 reactor ...speaking of rendering, Jordach.
15:51 reactor Not only rendering, actually.
15:51 reactor Is it possible to convert a map from MT to MC?
15:54 sfan5 yes
15:58 sfan5 spam fail: http://i.imgur.com/ngFOMZl.png
16:17 OldCoder VanessaE, t y
16:32 pitriss https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126708#p126708 //hmm hmm... I don't tnink that this is legal..
16:42 hoodedice So,
16:42 hoodedice I see that shaheerziya is now banned
16:42 hoodedice Well, what did he do so epic this time?
16:46 pitriss posted epic instruction how to get "free" minecraft
16:57 hoodedice Jeija! Hi
17:04 hoodedice Guest59073: XD
17:04 hoodedice Nice one there
17:07 hoodedice Guest59073: Why was this shaheerziya banned?
17:09 Guest59073 oh god freenode sucks
17:10 Guest59073 "SASL: authentication timed out"
17:11 Jordach PilzAdam, http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/VolleyBall-at-the-Beach-428049806 :D
17:11 * Jordach knows a different kind of auth
17:11 PilzAdam Jordach, I guess you already know what I will say?
17:11 Jordach there we gi
17:11 Jordach go*
17:17 PilzAdam lolwat https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126642#p126642
17:20 PilzAdam lol, that post messed the whole page up
17:21 PilzAdam Ill take that as my signature
17:22 EvergreenTree PilzAdam, spoilers are buggy
17:22 EvergreenTree :P
17:22 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/960deOF.png
17:23 PilzAdam oh damn, "Signature may not contain of the text formatting tags (BBCode) [quote], [code] or [list]. Please choose another tags or delete it."
17:28 * Jordach just hax
17:29 Jordach convert song via VLC into flac, let Clementine convert flac into ogg
17:33 harrison a marsupial lover said "Ouch"!
17:33 harrison "I have just thrust my d*** in its pouch"!
17:33 harrison "Well, that feels great,
17:33 harrison But it necessitates
17:33 harrison A painfully contorted crouch"!
18:03 Calinou PSA: latest More Blocks updates makes horizontal trees not use an additional node definition
18:03 Calinou horizontal (jungle) trees kept in inventory or dropped will be lost
18:05 EvergreenTree Calinou, I love your signature on the forums
18:05 EvergreenTree with great power comes a great electric bill
18:13 Jordach i'm a fucking treetard
18:13 Jordach Calinou, alias them into normal logs
18:13 Calinou don't use "tard"
18:13 EvergreenTree treetard? That's offensice to me
18:13 Jordach the worst part is i've worked out walking using IK
18:13 EvergreenTree I'm a tree after all
18:14 Jordach EvergreenTree, it's so fucking simple i'm actually grumpy
18:14 Calinou Jordach, will not work
18:14 EvergreenTree that happens to me sometimes
18:14 Calinou else, the ABM will not run, because the unknown nodes will be turned into "normal" ones
18:15 Jordach OH CMON!
18:15 * Jordach found a useful feature; the circle rotator
18:17 Jordach das ist bullshit
18:18 PilzAdam oO
18:21 Jordach REALLY?!
18:21 Jordach move three bones and that's 6 frames done
18:24 EvergreenTree animating woes?
18:24 EvergreenTree you don't have to do it frame by frame
18:24 EvergreenTree move something and it will fill in the frames in between
18:26 Jordach EvergreenTree, IK has this stupidly awesome ability
18:26 EvergreenTree IK?
18:26 Jordach InverseKinematics
18:27 * Jordach renders 60 frames out with only 5 keyframes
18:27 Jordach i've been doing it wrong :P
18:27 Jordach the entire fucking time :D
18:27 EvergreenTree lol
18:28 EvergreenTree I knew that, and I know literally nothing about blender
18:28 EvergreenTree :P
18:28 EvergreenTree i assume the animating will go faster now?
18:30 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/walking-test-2/
18:30 Jordach 60 frames
18:30 Jordach with 6 keyframes
18:31 Jordach http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-200114-183059.php <- for cynics
18:49 Calinou PSA: quite big More Blocks update out, new stair types
18:54 specing How does one get rid of dungeon masters (they blue guys)?
18:55 specing I had a mese sword
18:55 Peacock get a dungeon mistress
18:55 specing It didn't help me
18:55 specing where? :D
18:55 Calinou dungeon masters are not blue
18:56 blaaaaargh the "blue guys" are probably big reds
18:57 blaaaaargh try a demon sword
18:58 EvergreenTree http://imgur.com/zcMY7wV
18:58 EvergreenTree ^volleyball
18:58 EvergreenTree by Jordach
18:58 specing blaaaaargh: then why are they blue if they have 'red' in their name?!
18:58 blaaaaargh specing, blame sapier
18:58 blaaaaargh :D
18:58 PilzAdam because sapier is colorblind
19:00 specing lol
19:03 specing Oh nice, holding the torch in your hand lights up the area around you
19:03 specing just noticed
19:03 PilzAdam no, it doesnt
19:04 specing yes it does
19:04 specing (freeminer)
19:04 PilzAdam you are playing the wrong game
19:04 specing :D
19:07 specing Currently, the freeminer client handles much better than the minetest one
19:08 PilzAdam if they keep throwing stuff in without thinking like currently then it wont turn out good in the future
19:08 Jordach PilzAdam, Indian Style programming
19:08 Peacock specing what about lag?
19:08 PilzAdam s/Freeminer/Indianminer/ :D
19:09 Peacock specing don't mind them they're just butthurt people left the commune :P
19:12 specing Peacock: mostly no lag
19:12 specing I can build bridges continously (by holding shift+s and moving backward)
19:12 Peacock seriously gonna have to give it a shot cuz even my minimalist game lags donkey balls in 48/49, so its either switch to 047 or fm
19:13 Peacock i tested yesterday by disabling all step functions and abms and the chunks still took forever to load, with just 2
19:13 Peacock *2 players
19:18 PilzAdam specing, thats not the client, though
19:18 Peacock well whoever's in charge of the server/lag should probably do something about it :P
19:19 PilzAdam there are already improvements by sapier in 0.4.9-dev
19:20 PilzAdam and freeminer devs plan to break the compatiblity with Minetest, so its probably gonna die anyway
19:20 Peacock i tried 049 dev two days ago, i had to fix a bug in mainmenu myself that was reported 3 days previous, and the wife found it totally unplayable on the p4
19:20 Peacock well you can always hope :P
19:26 Peacock personally im not a huge fan of proller's features either, but so long as i can turn those off, and get less lag as a result, it doesn't seem so obvious to me that it's gonna die
19:26 iqualfragile Peacock: it was fixed a few days ago, could not been reported 3 days ago as the bug only existed for like 2 days
19:27 iqualfragile Peacock: you can not turn the switch to enet of
19:27 iqualfragile off
19:27 Peacock iqual i read about it in the dev logs and held off installing 049 for a few days thinking it would have been fixed by then :P good thing i knew where to look
19:27 iqualfragile oooh, sorry, you said 0.4.9 there was another bug in git
19:27 Peacock that fav_idx thing
19:28 iqualfragile that was indev
19:28 iqualfragile not released
19:28 Peacock well on debian wheezy theres not much use in installing the repo versions lol
19:28 Peacock people just come here and end up being told to update to latest anyhow
19:28 specing PilzAdam: it could be the other way around
19:28 specing PilzAdam: enet is killer
19:29 iqualfragile gdamn when will 3.13 land in archlinux
19:29 iqualfragile waiting for like half a day allready
19:29 PilzAdam specing, sapier's tests say otherwise
19:30 Peacock yeah but was that using sapier's implementation of enet or fm's?
19:30 specing Im sure proller will do his magic
19:31 Peacock i really dont care for the debates over enet/udp/tcp, so long as the lag goes away lol
19:36 playzooki hey guys
19:39 VanessaE hey playzooki
19:42 playzooki does the vps have to be validated before you can log into host1free?
19:42 cj My daughters are requesting beds and pets.
19:42 cj is there any work being done in these areas?
19:43 PilzAdam cj, there is a beds mod
19:47 VanessaE pets? MOBF has that, sorta
19:47 VanessaE you can tame the wolf, then it becomes a dog which follows you around
19:47 VanessaE that's about all I know of though
19:59 rubenwardy Hi all!
19:59 VanessaE hey ruben
20:05 * rubenwardy lol'd: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
20:06 * rubenwardy may have added '[spoiler]' to his signature
20:12 VanessaE rubenwardy: next feature to add: allow loading of custom textures (that aren't being stretched/scaled :P ) for the nodeboxes :)
20:12 VanessaE (if you haven't already done that)
20:12 VanessaE it's been a while since I last used it
20:12 rubenwardy I added '[spoiler]' with no '[/spoiler]' to my signature, which causes all the posts after my to be in my signature
20:13 rubenwardy s/my/mine
20:13 rubenwardy And no, textures are not added yet
20:13 VanessaE ok
20:15 rubenwardy I think they should rewrite Minetest in java, so it can run in the browser.
20:16 VanessaE ew.
20:17 VanessaE old troll is old.
20:17 playzooki obvious trolololl
20:17 playzooki i dont really like web apps
20:18 VanessaE playzooki: Y U NO PLAY on my server no more? :(
20:18 playzooki beacuase
20:18 playzooki it takes ages to load
20:18 playzooki and i play other games
20:18 PilzAdam VanessaE, do you have sapiers new tcp/upd thingy in?
20:19 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126754#p126754
20:19 PilzAdam rubenwardy, PM
20:19 playzooki ok vanessa im loading your server
20:20 playzooki lets see how long it takess=
20:20 VanessaE PilzAdam: I am running mainline, currently at HEAD.
20:20 puhfa <3 "beacuase"
20:20 VanessaE (4585e855a that is, no patches)
20:22 PilzAdam is sapiers mixed tcp/udp mode in upstream?
20:22 VanessaE I think only the UDP stuff went into upstream.
20:23 VanessaE there are other fixes pending, which I do not have in place. TCP is on a separate branch/.
20:23 VanessaE -/
20:23 * rubenwardy bought a 32gb usb drive
20:24 VanessaE and it's impressive too, most users are having no problems, though as you just saw every so often someone has a glitch just after connecting
20:24 * playzooki is still trying to get on to vanessae's server
20:24 VanessaE currently 29 users on my servers (combined), today's peak was 43.
20:24 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html
20:24 VanessaE Nostalgia has 23 of those 29.
20:24 VanessaE O_O
20:25 VanessaE playzooki: digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000 and be sure you're using 0.4.9 or latest git, don't use an old client or it'll probably barf :)
20:25 playzooki oh
20:25 playzooki lemme just get 0.4.9
20:25 playzooki the topic says 0.4.8 lol
20:26 VanessaE playzooki: oh, 0.4.8 should be fine
20:26 VanessaE do you have cURL support?
20:26 PilzAdam VanessaE, that chat spam on your server is horrible!
20:26 VanessaE it'll speed it along :)
20:26 VanessaE playzooki: that "chat spam" is from 23 users all talking on the same server :)
20:26 VanessaE mostly :)
20:26 VanessaE PilzAdam: ^^^
20:26 PilzAdam just disable the IRC mod
20:26 VanessaE no way
20:28 PilzAdam and do I have no interact on creative?
20:28 VanessaE you do now :P
20:28 playzooki playzooki: that "chat spam" is from 23 users all talking on the same server :) >>>that was pilzadam!
20:29 playzooki also minetest should have a skype group
20:29 VanessaE playzooki: tab complete FAIL :)
20:30 VanessaE I see you now, playzooki.
20:30 PilzAdam your server seems actually playable now
20:30 VanessaE PilzAdam: I've argued with it A LOT to try to rein in the lag
20:31 rubenwardy I love how most the people in here are Windophobes and Javaphobes
20:32 VanessaE rubenwardy: not a javaphobe, so much as a more-abstractions-than-are-truly-needed-ophobe.
20:32 rubenwardy ha
20:33 VanessaE in other words, write your apps as close to the bare metal as you can, for the sake of speed and efficiency, as long as it doesn't compromise usability and user friendliness.
20:33 VanessaE java does not lend itself to that
20:33 VanessaE as for windows, I just don't trust it. that's all.
20:33 rubenwardy Assembly!
20:34 playzooki_ sorry about that, accidentally shut down my computer
20:34 VanessaE playzooki_: oops!
20:34 rubenwardy I started writing my own Assembly compiler (fake, more simulated running of bytecode)
20:34 playzooki_ stupid windows 8
20:34 rubenwardy lol
20:34 rubenwardy Ha. Windows 8 :P
20:35 playzooki_ i got a new laptop for my birthday and nobody makes windows 7 laptops cheaply anymore
20:35 PilzAdam VanessaE, you still dont have the stats mod installed
20:35 rubenwardy VanessaE, you still don't have the chatplus mod installed
20:36 VanessaE chat plus?
20:36 VanessaE stats mod, I keep forgetting about
20:36 PilzAdam !tell VanessaE install the stats mod!
20:36 MinetestBot PilzAdam: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around
20:36 playzooki_ and yet i still dont have a server
20:36 playzooki_ i must be like the oldest active member whos never had a server
20:36 rubenwardy !g chatplus minetest mod
20:36 MinetestBot rubenwardy: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6273
20:37 playzooki_ one of the oldest
20:37 VanessaE all right all right I'll install the damn stats mod, jeez
20:37 playzooki_ does anybody haave skype? im on that more often lol
20:37 * rubenwardy puts a chat on MinetestBot's head
20:38 PilzAdam MinetestBot!
20:38 MinetestBot PilzAdam!
20:38 * rubenwardy puts a cat on MinetestBot's head
20:38 playzooki_ MinetestBot!
20:38 MinetestBot playzooki_!
20:38 rubenwardy That was the best feature!
20:38 rubenwardy !mlp bob
20:38 * playzooki_ shoots the cat with a bbgun
20:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: all five servers?
20:38 VanessaE (even on Realtest?)
20:38 * rubenwardy places a 5 ton nuke in the chat room
20:39 rubenwardy (tonne?)
20:39 PilzAdam VanessaE, I guess
20:39 PilzAdam its compatible to everything
20:39 PilzAdam and extendable by everything
20:40 VanessaE rubenwardy: what about chatplus? what games/mods does/doesn't it work with?
20:40 rubenwardy not compatible with any ones that intercept chat messages
20:40 rubenwardy ie, register_on_chatmessage
20:40 rubenwardy so traxie's serverutil or what ever
20:41 VanessaE ok, I know I have one or two mods that rely on that hook, so that's out
20:41 VanessaE sowwy :)
20:41 VanessaE PilzAdam: stats is installed.
20:42 playzooki i cant place glowglass on your server
20:43 playzooki oh wait i can now
20:43 rubenwardy bye all
20:43 playzooki byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
20:44 PilzAdam VanessaE, now all your players can have competitions about their playtime
20:44 Peacock the tricky part is calculating XP
20:44 sfan5 !c XP
20:44 MinetestBot Exception: AST node type not allowed: 'Name'
20:44 Peacock you cant go on nodes digged/placed alone cuz that can be pretty random
20:45 PilzAdam Peacock, I dont care
20:45 PilzAdam if people want they can place/dig millions of torches
20:46 Peacock well im trying to think of ways to motivate players to build worthwhile things
20:46 Peacock so far they use up all their wood planks making an out house and thats about it lol
20:47 playzooki vanessa, siteadvisor says your site is suspicious
20:47 Peacock lol
20:47 Peacock might wanna get a better plugin then
20:48 playzooki nah
20:48 VanessaE suspicious??
20:48 VanessaE how so?
20:49 VanessaE link please?
20:49 playzooki siteadvisor says:This link is suspicious. We tested it and found potential security risks. Be careful.
20:49 Peacock must be some funky JS
20:50 iqualfragile /r/ing unified dyes support for meseconlamps
20:51 VanessaE Peacock: just some hand-crafted js to add mouseovers to the menu buttons, and jsquery on the minetest page to make sure the embedded file browser works right
20:51 VanessaE and a simple popup image viewer
20:51 Peacock embedded file browser... thats probably it
20:51 Peacock or jquery loading outside adresses
20:52 VanessaE Peacock: well, s/file browser/file listing/
20:52 VanessaE I wanted the listing to be embedded into the page
20:52 VanessaE it was the only way I could find that would be sure to work everywhere
20:52 Peacock in any case it sounds like his plugin just looks at the code, other plugins crowdsource their security warnings (wot i think)
20:53 VanessaE probably
20:53 VanessaE at any rate, there's nothing nefarious on my site that I'm aware of
20:53 VanessaE not unless bzip2 had a security hole and inserting viruses into my files or something :P
20:53 * Jordach had a curry with chutney
20:53 VanessaE has*
20:55 Peacock what's chutney? some sort of squirrel?
20:56 VanessaE Peacock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutney
20:57 Peacock hm, probably tastes better than it looks lol
20:57 VanessaE Peacock: chutney can be quite sweet
20:59 Peacock but curry's already covered in sauce, why would you need more condiments? doesn't sound healthy lol
21:00 VanessaE Peacock: as a side dish?
21:00 VanessaE you know, like soup and salad?
21:02 Peacock soup and salad are a lot lighter lol
21:02 VanessaE true
21:02 Peacock dunno, yesterday i made a "sidekick" and just ate that on it's own lol
21:17 playzooki bye guys
21:49 PilzAdam bye
21:49 ShadowBot Goodbye PilzAdam!
22:57 VanessaE ok. is there a graceful way to disable the bones mod without just deleting it from the game?
22:57 VanessaE (so that I don't have to maintain 47 different variants of minetest_game)
23:14 stormchaser3000 hi
23:15 stormchaser3000 i got an error on the online mod store
23:15 stormchaser3000 is there a developer on
23:20 stormchaser3000 sorry
23:31 hoodedice I just installed Xubuntu on a flash drive and checked the 'Restricted packages'
23:31 hoodedice I also live in the US.
23:31 hoodedice I'm such badass
23:32 hoodedice *tumbleweed*
23:33 hoodedice So, kaeza
23:33 hoodedice Is 5.0 gonna be huge?
23:33 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126763#p126763
23:33 kaeza why me?
23:34 hoodedice Was it that stoopid?
23:34 hoodedice I thought it could be the problem
23:34 hoodedice That was the only shit that popped up in the debug
23:34 kaeza [20:33:53] why me?
23:35 hoodedice Oooookaaaay
23:35 hoodedice Then what makes his MT crash?
23:35 kaeza why should I know?
23:35 hoodedice OH THAT1
23:35 hoodedice OH I DIDNT NOTICE
23:35 hoodedice Are you not core dev?
23:35 kaeza O_o
23:36 kaeza nope
23:36 hoodedice Oh.
23:36 kaeza https://github.com/minetest?tab=members
23:36 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126763#p126763
23:36 hoodedice Better?
23:36 kaeza ...
23:36 hoodedice XD
23:37 * kaeza moves to trash
23:37 hoodedice So ofc, you won't know about five-point-oh
23:37 hoodedice hrm.
23:37 kaeza no, I *may* know about oh-point-four-point-ten
23:38 hoodedice oh-point-four-point-one-oh?
23:38 hoodedice As in, not oh-point-five-point-oh?
23:39 hoodedice hmm, big release or no?
23:39 hoodedice Same as 0.4.9?
23:40 kaeza "It'll be done when it's done"
23:40 hoodedice Damn
23:40 hoodedice I think I'll have a private chat with ShadowNinja if I see him around
23:40 kaeza if you want latest features, use -dev version
23:40 hoodedice I do use -dev version
23:41 hoodedice I'm planning something for five point oh
23:41 hoodedice hmm =/
23:41 kaeza BTW, version numbers are not decimals
23:41 hoodedice uhmm
23:41 kaeza (i.e. 0.4.9 not necessarily leads to 0.5.0)
23:42 hoodedice Yes, but I thought we would be onto 0.5.0 after this
23:42 hoodedice Seems that mod API isn't complete, so ofc, we can't move to 0.5.0
23:43 hoodedice Anyway, "I just installed Xubuntu on a flash drive and checked the 'Restricted packages'"
23:43 hoodedice I'm so badass
23:43 hoodedice X-)
23:44 hoodedice OH boy, WHY?
23:56 Darkangel just makin sure how large is 32 km in minetest world?
23:56 VanessaE 61824x61824x61824 meters
23:56 VanessaE 1 meter = 1 cube in the world.
23:57 Darkangel so basicly the whole map?
23:58 VanessaE what are you getting at exactly?
23:58 VanessaE 32km is half the width of the map
23:58 Darkangel ill send ya a link why ima askin lol
23:58 VanessaE the map is ~62km cubed.
23:58 hmmmm that's so bullshit
23:58 hmmmm a cube isn't one meter
23:58 hmmmm it's just visually incorrect
23:58 Darkangel https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8357
23:59 VanessaE well it's *supposed* to be one meter.
23:59 hmmmm they made that estimation from minecraft because the player is the same height as a doorway, and a doorway is a standard 2 meters, and 1 meter per cube is really convenient
23:59 hmmmm it might've been accurate back in the old days
23:59 hmmmm some of the first minecraft classics had visually larger cubes