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00:00 Peacock *a
00:00 Jordach Peacock, 70+ fps with a 64px pack in MC
00:00 Jordach without OPTIFINE.
00:01 Peacock dang, how much is MC?
00:02 Jordach $~30 USD
00:02 Peacock fuck thats twice as much as i paid for the other two games and they're leagues ahead of both MT/MC
00:04 twoelk are they really? or do they just focus on a smaller goal and fix what they have?
00:04 Jordach Peacock, a lot changed since beta
00:05 Peacock well i cant really convince anyone in a chat, i'd suggest checking out Blockscape and Space Engineers on youtube
00:05 Jordach Peacock, i paid £17.95 via giftcard
00:05 Peacock so, is it better than MT or no? (i never played MC)
00:06 Jordach Peacock, playable on a P4 and has decent survival
00:06 Jordach but better once you ramp said difficulty up
00:06 Peacock on a p4? i cant even host an MT server on the p4 anymore
00:07 paramat MC has a 256 node world height =/
00:08 ShadowNinja Freenode's lagging.  :-(  (it's freenode, not ShadowBot.  Pings are almost instant on another network) specing: It's keyed to PilzAdam, he's notorious for leaving immediately after saying bye.  Peacock: No need for that.
00:08 Peacock no need for what? lol
00:09 NakedFury Space engineers is nice for how little it has for now
00:09 NakedFury sweet sweet game
00:09 Peacock devel is going fast on that game, blockscape not so much but its still nicer than first gen block games
00:09 NakedFury blockscape is nice but development feels slower than Minetest
00:10 twoelk from what I have seen MC is somewhat nicer to the casual player while Minetest gets really fun if you learn how to tweek it
00:10 Peacock i almost don't mind, for every new feature there seems to be a new bug, or an old one gets worst
00:11 Peacock wife just gave up trying to play 0.4.9 lol
00:11 ShadowNinja Peacock: Your comment immediately following ^.
00:12 Peacock be specific
00:13 kaeza lol
00:13 Peacock dunno im not talking to shadowninja so i can't guess to what comment he's alluding to :P
00:15 ShadowNinja Peacock: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6771192/
00:16 Peacock jesus that was a long time ago
00:25 twoelk looking at the black jack tables on youre server, how about adding some billiard tables, just for the looks
00:29 Peacock not sure how i could make those work though lol
00:30 NakedFury just for the looks
00:30 Peacock yeah but you know me lol
00:30 twoelk adding atmosphere
00:31 Peacock i suppose if i made the balls entities
00:31 NakedFury I guess you wont add slot machines either then
00:31 Peacock i have slot machines
00:31 NakedFury since you cant add the colored lights to them
00:32 Peacock well no i cant add colored lights to my slot machines but i gave up on trying to get this group to try anything new a while ago :P
00:32 Peacock but you can bet fake money on slot machines on my server
00:33 NakedFury color lightning would be its own x.x.# version if it made the cut
00:33 Peacock ill tell you what i tell everyone, ittl never happen :P
00:33 NakedFury well brb
00:33 Peacock either its beyond the dev's skills, or a particular dev has a hardon against it, but yeah lol
00:34 Peacock in any case id just settle for a non buggy version of mt to run a server off of :P
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01:49 Exio4 [19:27:37] <Peacock> like a couple of hundred thousand nodes away :P sometimes e (infinity?) on one of the axes
01:49 Exio4 lots of people talk about that buy
01:49 Exio4 bug*
01:49 Exio4 noone gives a way to reproduce it "properly"
01:50 Peacock because no one can guess *why* it happens, users aren't devs
01:51 Exio4 you don't need to say "the bug happens in enviroment.cpp:1234 with the variables a, b, c and x
01:51 Exio4 "
01:52 Exio4 Peacock: you need the how-to maybe reproduce it
01:52 Exio4 a workaround
01:52 Exio4 can be added without knowing the real bug..
01:54 Peacock in the army they use the term "Facts of the ground", here are the facts on the ground: people get teleported off the map (far), it happens to multiple users on multiple machines, devs don't know what's causing this. I dont know why you bring this up now hours later, this aint email, it's chat
02:00 Exio4 devs don't play the game and users don't provide enough info
02:00 Peacock of course not if devs played the game once in a while they might notice what's wrong with it
02:01 Exio4 if the devs played that much they won't have time for developing enough shits though
02:01 Exio4 they do it in their spare time when they are able to do anything
02:01 Peacock i read the logs, they seem to spend more time debating things than getting them done :P
02:02 Peacock they could certainly split debate time between debate and playing/testing
02:02 Peacock hows that different from anyone else? players play in their spare time, modders mod in their spare time
02:02 Exio4 kahrl, hmmmm
02:02 Exio4 if you have 3 hours the day
02:03 Exio4 and you spend one hour playing the game, other developing mods, and other coding shit for the engine
02:03 Peacock lol whats wrong, got no arguments for an argument *you* start and now you need reinforcements? :P
02:03 Exio4 my english is shit and i don't know to say the shit
02:03 Peacock ok how exactly do you know how many hours each spend doing their specific tasks?
02:03 Exio4 also
02:04 Peacock well you know enough english to start shit, you should have the balls to finish
02:04 Exio4 Peacock: i don't need reinforcements to saying "look at them"
02:04 Peacock looks like you were pinging them
02:05 Exio4 they aren't here probably
02:05 Peacock and yeah half the dev team seem to be doing 90% of the work i grant you that
02:05 Exio4 abd that 90% is mostly coding, not playing
02:05 Exio4 the other 10% is done by "player-developers" ;)
02:05 Peacock well the other half the team could actually test shit rather than debate their methods
02:06 Exio4 1/4 of the dev team is busy most of the time because irl shit
02:06 Exio4 also, what do you except them to do?
02:07 Exio4 just code and then push to the engine?
02:07 Peacock lol that's what they're actually doing now
02:07 Exio4 they actually debate how to code the shit and what could be done before
02:07 Peacock so many people do they're own thing that when things go wrong everyone says "no my department" :P
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02:07 Peacock *their
02:07 Peacock **not
02:08 diemartin del *.*
02:08 Exio4 you won't ask about shaders to the guy that manages the mapgen
02:08 Exio4 that is obvious
02:08 Peacock dunno, the guy who does shaders hasn't been around in a while, seemed upset about something lol
02:09 Exio4 also, some things are too controversial
02:09 Peacock everything is controversial
02:09 Exio4 like the circuit code, in its "right now state", it is like too big for a engine change
02:09 Exio4 not that much
02:09 Exio4 also, Peacock
02:09 Exio4 some things can't get "just merged"
02:10 Peacock im not actually arguing that more shit get merged :P im talking about fixing what we already have
02:10 Exio4 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751
02:10 Exio4 copy paste support?
02:10 Peacock my 048 server is corrupting the map
02:10 Peacock the wife's 049 client is unplayable
02:10 Exio4 how is that happening?
02:10 Exio4 (the map corruption)
02:11 Exio4 THAT is a wrong thing
02:11 Exio4 but, why 0.4.8 and not 0.4.9?
02:11 Peacock 049 is just the client on the p4, it doesn't host the server
02:11 Peacock but that client lags out even more than the previous 047 i had on there
02:11 Exio4 yeah, why not move the server to the latest stable
02:11 Exio4 Peacock: since what commit?
02:12 Peacock its moving to newer stuff that's causing the frustration in the first place :P
02:12 Exio4 did you move to the latest stable release or to so some commit?
02:12 Exio4 lets look at minetest
02:12 Exio4 it says "alpha" doesn't it?
02:13 Exio4 i'm just saying you want a full game when it is barely "a work in progress" ;P
02:16 Peacock last i was told, were still 10 versions away from 0.5.0, ill surely be past my 30th birthday by then
02:16 Exio4 we're not 10 versions away from 0.5.0
02:17 Peacock and past my 40th for 1.0.0, though PCs will probably be museum pieces in the western world by then
02:17 Exio4 who said that?
02:17 Exio4 what will be there?
02:17 Exio4 hybrid tablets?
02:17 diemartin Minetest 0.4.12834652348926134
02:17 Peacock i think kaeza might have told me that (not sure)
02:17 Exio4 i'll tell you 1+1=42
02:17 Exio4 does that mean this is true?
02:18 diemartin wat
02:18 Exio4 :D
02:18 Peacock i read 1984 :P
02:18 Exio4 killmartin
02:19 Peacock anyways, someone ( a regular around here) said we'd have 0.4.91-9 before 0.5.0 :P
02:20 Exio4 we'll have 0.5.x as soon as "the devs" get a working nicely network protocol decent enough for replacing the actual one
02:20 diemartin http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-01-16#i_3549624
02:20 diemartin Peacock, ^
02:21 Peacock ever green tree said it lol
02:21 Peacock and PA basically said not to expect 050 anytime soon lol
02:23 Exio4 i'll say we will get it "soon"
02:23 Exio4 not as soon as you might except anyway
02:24 Peacock i dont care *when* it comes so much as *what* it fixes :p
02:24 diemartin 0.5 will probably not be "just fixes"
02:24 Peacock lag being a big issue, map (and/or memory corruption) being another
02:25 diemartin (taking into account 0.3 → 0.4 basically changed everything
02:25 diemartin +)
02:25 Peacock well i wouldn't expect as much this time :p
02:25 Exio4 lets make a bug-fix only release called 0.5.0 so Peacock gets happy
02:25 Peacock happy no, can run a server, yes :P
02:26 Peacock what we have now can't handle all the android users, and corner note wants to add MT to steam
02:27 diemartin anyway, it's not like "we got to release 0.5.0, so let's fix a big bug!"; it's more like "we have coded something that basically breaks backwards compat, so let's make this 0.5.0"
02:28 Exio4 ^
02:28 Exio4 Peacock: spend all the time you use being like "minetest should ..." learning C++ and coding shit for it!
02:28 Peacock its not like i mind that lol i just want what's already there to somewhat work better :P
02:29 Peacock would if i could but A) im not keen on C++ B) minetest has too many source files
02:29 Exio4 lets make the source code a single .cpp
02:30 diemartin s/cpp/asm/
02:30 Exio4 the "many source files" is a good thing for a big project
02:30 diemartin err... s/asm/s/
02:30 Exio4 s/s/exe/
02:30 Exio4 :D
02:30 diemartin s/exe/bas/
02:30 diemartin :DDDD
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02:31 * diemartin avoids the shoes people throw and hides
02:31 * Exio4 nukes diemartin
02:32 kaeza :<
02:32 Peacock be back in 10
02:33 Exio4 i need to download all the offline .jpeg2000 from http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=gmd&​amp;action=browse&amp;fileName=gmd5m/g5350m/g535​0m/gct00166/ct_browse.db&amp;recNum=0&amp;itemLi​nk=r?ammem/gmd:@field%28NUMBER+@band%28g5350m+gc​t00166%29%29&amp;linkText=0&amp;title2=Atlas%20d​el%20plano%20catastral%20de%20la%20Rep%26uacute;​blica%20Argentina%20%2f%20por%20Carlos%20de%20Ch​apeaurouge.&amp;displayType=3&amp;maxCols=3
02:33 Exio4 :(
02:33 kaeza teh duck is that link
02:46 Peacock bach
02:47 Peacock and yeah no, sticking all the sources in the same file is a bad idea, even though i have a hard time visualizing something spread out over so many either :P which is why i dont do dev
02:47 Exio4 it is easier to see that in different files
02:47 Exio4 it also allows you to have multiple files in your screen in an efficient-way
02:48 Peacock depends on the person
02:48 Peacock heck even in the dev logs people have different opinions about how to format those files :P
02:50 Peacock though if youre gonna assign value to feedback based on those who dev the engine and those that just use it, then i dont know how you expect feedback at all :P especially since you say devs don't use/play their own product :P
02:55 Peacock in any case i just opened a case of beer, so we should discuss something less controversial like politics or religion :P
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02:56 Exio4 lol
02:56 Exio4 " we should discuss something less controversial like politics or religion"
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02:57 Peacock on freenode that would be less controversial :P
03:00 Peacock seriously though, i look forward to the next elections ( a year), im voting lefty on the federal level, and right on the provincial :P
03:00 Exio4 shit
03:00 Exio4 each page is about 250mb
03:00 Peacock page of what?
03:00 Exio4 that means i have like 2gb and half
03:00 Exio4 or three
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03:00 Exio4 http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=gmd&​amp;action=browse&amp;fileName=gmd5m/g5350m/g535​0m/gct00166/ct_browse.db&amp;recNum=36&amp;itemL​ink=r?ammem/gmd:@field%28NUMBER+@band%28g5350m+g​ct00166%29%29&amp;linkText=0&amp;title2=Atlas%20​del%20plano%20catastral%20de%20la%20Rep%26uacute​;blica%20Argentina%20%2f%20por%20Carlos%20de%20C​hapeaurouge.&amp;displayType=3&amp;maxCols=3
03:00 Exio4 i'm downloading all of them
03:01 Peacock im guessing those aren't maps of the faulkland war, looks too old
03:01 Exio4 they are maps of the argentina in the 1905 (iirc)
03:02 Peacock pre WW1, not bad, im a huge history buff
03:02 Peacock i was first in line for that WW2 in colour shit lol
03:03 Exio4 the world war was just being fucked up by the US ... for us
03:03 Peacock the two world wars were basically european civil wars (as i understood it)
03:03 Exio4 the bad thing of their server is that i can't download at more than 600kb/s
03:03 Peacock at the end of the second world war europe basically lost and was split between the soviets and the americans
03:03 Peacock like many parts of the world
03:04 Peacock though the allies held off opening a western front as long as possible in the hope that the nazies would defeat communism first
03:05 Exio4 i like more the economics shit around
03:06 Peacock ah well, wall street financed hitler
03:06 Peacock IBM sold primitive computers to the nazis to make the holocaust possible
03:06 Exio4 lol
03:07 Peacock though wall street also got into that german debt payment between WW1 and 2
03:07 Peacock which explains the roarin' 20's
03:07 Exio4 german's hyperinflation
03:08 Exio4 like, 45 seconds per image and they are like 120 images :(
03:08 Exio4 that is 90~ minutes :(
03:08 Exio4 and it is already a bit.. late
03:08 Peacock germany had hyperinflation because of versailles, the minute hitler said fuck that all the paper in the west was worthless
03:08 Peacock kinda like the mortgage bubble lol
03:09 Exio4 Peacock: i think i have talked with you about actual argentina's economics
03:09 Peacock yeah and ive read articles in the news about it too
03:09 Exio4 we've like, at least, 35% of inflation (in average) between shit
03:09 Peacock seems things are shaking up
03:10 Peacock well the gov't spends so much money, its no surprise inflation is up
03:10 Exio4 even in my small city we are having protests
03:11 Exio4 Peacock: when i was 10 years old, with 50 ARS you could buy 15~20 coca colas (depending the place), and the salary was "1400" for a ok living
03:11 Exio4 coca cola 2.25l
03:11 Exio4 now they are 20 ARS each, maybe a bit lower if you buy like 15-20 in a mayorist
03:11 Exio4 and the salary is ... 4500 ARS
03:11 Peacock here's an unflattering one: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405​2702303848104579310811794109126?mg=reno64-wsj&am​p;url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB​10001424052702303848104579310811794109126.html
03:12 Peacock most of the articles i read seem to describe heavy government spending since the 2001 default
03:13 Peacock which, would boost prices without necessarily boosting investment
03:13 Exio4 you could buy 420~ coca colas with the salary before
03:13 Exio4 now you can barely afford 225-250
03:13 Exio4 that happened in only six years
03:14 Peacock well hell here consumer goods cost the same, but things like rent, mortgages, power, gas have all gone up
03:14 Peacock well hyperinflation will do that
03:15 Exio4 here everything went up
03:15 Exio4 even our relation to the USD, before, with 5ARS or less you could have 1USD, now you need 10ARS and you're virtually paying a +15ARS usd in goods
03:16 Exio4 yay devaluation
03:16 kaeza [23:47:50] <Exio4> it is easier to see that in different files
03:16 Peacock well the US's QE is drying up while their economy picks up, and most of that QE went to offshore investment, which is why things are going bad in alot of parts of the world while the west gets better
03:16 kaeza it also avoids having to recompile huge files on a small change
03:16 Exio4 some joke in reddit (argentina) like 4 days ago
03:17 Exio4 "i'm just realizing doing offshore banking will be a common thing in the next years"
03:17 Exio4 "hey, what was your bank account in uruguay's bank?"
03:17 Peacock it's never safe to keep all your money in the same bank :P
03:17 Exio4 how is your national bank called kaeza?
03:18 kaeza BROU
03:18 Peacock lol broue is slang for beer here :P
03:18 kaeza (Banco de la República Oriental del Uruguay)
03:18 Exio4 booze
03:18 Exio4 Banco Revolucionario? :(
03:19 Exio4 kaeza: how hard is having a bank account there
03:19 kaeza uh dunno
03:19 Exio4 D:
03:19 Exio4 you can haz access to real USD pls
03:19 Exio4 i would like that
03:19 kaeza http://www.brou.com.uy/web/guest/home
03:19 Peacock might be a stupid question, but can't you convert your money to btc, and from btc to usd?
03:20 Exio4 i need to sell my ARS to someone
03:20 Exio4 but the *hard* thing is getting cash dollar
03:20 Exio4 you can use your CC and have "cheap virtual dollar"
03:20 Exio4 or your debit card too
03:21 Peacock there must be some way to setup a foreign account online?
03:21 Exio4 you can get the USD by just using the stock market too
03:22 Exio4 the cash USD*
03:23 Peacock that kinda reminds me of Zimbabwe dropping their own currency and using USD's
03:23 Exio4 brb making an offshore company in the seychelles
03:23 Peacock well there's always paypal, its not an official bank, but close enough
03:24 Exio4 you can "real USD in a debit card" with payooner too
03:24 Exio4 or whatever the name was
03:24 Exio4 i don't remember right now
03:24 Exio4 real USD in the US
03:24 Exio4 byt still virtual for you
03:24 Peacock though when BTC came out a few years ago everyone though USD's would crash lol
03:24 Peacock now the CDN$ is falling in value versus the USD
03:25 Exio4 CDN?
03:25 Peacock CDN is the abbreviation for canadian buckaroos :P
03:25 Peacock (moosemoney)
03:25 Exio4 i see
03:26 Peacock its quite sad when you think we used to export more finished products in the 70s and 80s than we do now (oil)
03:26 Exio4 your country is still part of the "rich side"
03:26 Peacock now the debate in this country is all about building pipelines to export crude to other countries with refineries
03:27 Peacock yeah, until we re-elect the conservatives, which im sure the anglos will do lol
03:28 Exio4 Cada caja de ahorros puede ser en Pesos Uruguayos, Dólares USA o Euros.
03:28 Exio4 UYN, USD and EUR
03:28 Exio4 better than "ARS or ARS"
03:28 Peacock though thankfully in Quebec we have a separatist party
03:30 Peacock kinda like Catalonia in Spain and Scotland in the UK
03:31 Exio4 i'm not into spain's politics
03:31 Exio4 (neither into uk's)
03:32 Peacock all politics are interesting to me :P
03:32 Peacock heckuva lot more than entertainment news at least lol
03:33 Peacock what's ironic about Spain is they're making a fuss about reclaiming Gibraltar while Catalonia wants to disassociate itself from Spain lol
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03:38 Exio4 already two GB
03:38 Exio4 and i'm still downloading
03:38 Exio4 dammit
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03:45 Peacock shadowbot, we meet again, you must swear fealty to the Klingon Empire
03:46 Peacock lest you dishonour yourself, and your house
03:49 kaeza le onpon seems to have a connection with me, according to OSRC :|
03:49 Peacock im so sorry :P
03:52 * paramat finally gets archipelago mod working =P'
03:54 Peacock what you change?
03:56 paramat better method that doesnt shred the terrain, more flowers, grasses
03:57 paramat stone is compressed but dirt/sand and trees are shifted intact
03:58 Peacock du manage to get rid of that mud flowing crap that draws perfect squares?
03:58 paramat it *might* be somewhat continuous with island mod, same noise values
03:59 Peacock (i did update my MT, but im having problems with it so ill probably switch back)
03:59 paramat yeah im sticking to 0.4.8 stable for now
04:00 Peacock aiight, im even thinking of going back to 047 lol
04:00 paramat uh, dirt ridges are fixed in latest 0.4.9dev with the 'no mud flow' mapgen flag
04:00 Peacock though in 047 i probably wont get dirt ridges
04:00 paramat did you know cavegen griefing is fixed too?
04:00 paramat you will, it's an ancient bug
04:01 Peacock *is not surprised* lol
04:01 paramat i asked for the no mud flow mapgen flag on IRC, 10 mins later hmmm committed it ... so cool
04:02 Peacock thats pretty cool, though with 048 and 049 im getting epic lag with even 3-4 players
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04:02 Peacock (nothing to do with mapgen mods)
04:02 paramat cavegen will not eat through any node with 'is ground content = false'
04:03 Peacock though what would be cool is a bedrock mod that handles all the undeground shit that we (you) could package with all your mapgens mods, then use singlenode
04:04 Peacock im guessing that would be paragen + islands
04:04 paramat underground should be part of each mapgen :)
04:05 paramat island mod relies on mapgenv6 being there, cant use singlenode
04:07 Peacock ah well, if ever they implement binary mods it might be possible to come up with dozens of independent mapgen mods that dont conflict with the engines'
04:09 Exio4 2.5gb
04:09 Exio4 good
04:12 Peacock thats allota map
04:14 VanessaE hi
04:14 Peacock high
04:15 paramat Peacock, shazam! https://github.com/paramat/archipelago
04:16 Peacock wasn't shazam a p2p app back in the day?
04:18 paramat map http://i.imgur.com/DhoANk6.gif
04:19 Peacock nice, you must have travelled a while
04:19 paramat heh flew for a few minutes, i can barely out fly the LVM =)
04:20 paramat http://i.imgur.com/WdMWFdi.png bug during island dev
04:21 Peacock slices lol
04:21 Peacock seriously they should put you in charge of mapgens, you've written more of them in the last year than anyone in the last 3
04:22 paramat archipelago chunk processing time mostly 1-1.5 seconds .. added onto MGV6 gen time
04:22 paramat heh nooo
04:22 Exio4 how are your C++ skills?
04:22 Exio4 i mean
04:22 Exio4 lua is easier than C++ at this
04:22 Peacock mine? they suck ass lol
04:22 Exio4 i'm asking paramat
04:22 paramat indeed, i can barely write C++
04:22 Peacock lol
04:23 Peacock C++ is for hardcore computer geeks
04:23 Peacock not real people
04:23 Peacock when you have to start typing everything, thats when i lose interest :P
04:23 paramat still i intend to rewrite the C++ floatlands
04:24 Exio4 exactly
04:24 Exio4 doing the shit in the engine is harder than a mod
04:25 Peacock because cpp is a bitch lol
04:25 Peacock lua doesn't have libraries
04:25 kaeza wat
04:25 Peacock it doesn't compile differently with different compilers
04:25 Peacock well i know the IRC mod uses funky shit, but 99% of mods dont need anything like a library
04:26 Exio4 exactly what kaeza said
04:26 Exio4 wat.
04:26 paramat bbl
04:26 Exio4 Peacock: how many "lua compilers" we have?
04:26 Exio4 luajit and lua
04:27 Peacock and even then it was failure to make a choice :P
04:27 Peacock luajit uses features from lua 5.2 that are absent in the 5.1 lua packaged with MT
04:27 Exio4 you shouldn't be using them
04:28 Exio4 http://exio4.com.ar/atlas/
04:28 Peacock if luajit offers them, why the fuck not? lol
04:28 * kaeza puts a goto statement on Exio4's head
04:28 Exio4 because they are absent in the 5.1 lua packaged with MT
04:28 Peacock well that's what i mean by making a choice :P
04:28 * Exio4 throws an exception over kaeza
04:29 Peacock if you wanna support luajit, then support that one, but by supporting both, you open yourself up to shit only working half the time
04:29 * kaeza dies from SIGSEGV
04:29 Exio4 so, you suggest we switch to full C++11 shit
04:29 Peacock i dont give a shit about C++ lol i thought i made that clear :P
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04:30 Guest40841 anyway, off to bed now
04:30 Guest40841 blargh
04:31 Exio4 minetest compiles with C++11 shits there, we should switch to that standard, who cares about the users that don't use a 'proper' compiler
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04:31 Peacock well i much prefer sticking with one standard to several yeah
04:31 Exio4 it is modder's fault to be like "meh, this is available with luajit, why should i care about the other half"
04:31 Peacock yeah
04:31 Exio4 if the modder is a dumbass, it is not minetest's fault
04:32 Exio4 that is how it works, layer 8 can't be fixed
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04:32 Peacock not the modder, the serverhost who runs shit with lua 5.1 when the mod was developed for luajit
04:32 Exio4 without ak47 and nukes
04:32 Exio4 why should a mod be "luajit-dependentad"
04:33 Peacock anyways that's a constant failing of opensource, trying to support all options instead of developing one to it's full potential
04:33 Exio4 the fault of opensource is over the software level
04:33 Exio4 it is a PEBCAK
04:34 Exio4 we can't fix it, sorry ;)
04:34 Peacock well we could spend the next decade discussing all of opensource's faults and the fanbois will still be proclaiming the year of linux on the desktop by 2024 lol
04:35 Exio4 the desktop will die because companies don't like the idea of a proper hardware setup
04:36 Exio4 they will become high-end only and the mid-to-low will be tablets, laptops, and other shit like that
04:36 Peacock i kinda wonder what freetards will bitch about then lol
04:36 Exio4 we'll have to deal with that, we don't manage the shit, M$, Google and the super companies around do that
04:36 Peacock hopefully RMS will have gone the way of Steve Jobs lol
04:37 Exio4 RMS is mostly right about his paranoic stuff, he says people is too used to the closed source shit and how it works to think positively about the "open source side"
04:38 Peacock MS and Google produce what sells, and i tend to equate alot of MS/Google hate with general hatred towards american companies, because if any other country would gotten into IT first, no one there would dare bitch about it lol
04:38 Peacock RMS may be paranoid but he's hardly right
04:39 Exio4 M$ and Google create the necesity and the solution
04:39 Exio4 all-in-one solution
04:40 Peacock bitch all you want, i don't think you'd be online without them
04:41 Peacock if all you had was freetards developing technology, many countries still wouldn't be connected to the net
04:41 Exio4 we won't be here without rms either
04:41 VanessaE er, I was getting online long before Microsoft even had their first OS.
04:41 Peacock lol
04:41 VanessaE have we forgotten the concept of BBSs?
04:41 Exio4 also, the same with linux
04:41 Exio4 yes VanessaE
04:41 Peacock RMS' cause was a lost cause even back in the 80s
04:41 Exio4 they are so old
04:41 Exio4 facebook is the way to go
04:41 Exio4 er, linus, not  linux
04:42 Peacock his whole modus operandi was to rail against a company that wouldn't give him the source to the driver lol
04:42 Exio4 printer driver
04:42 Peacock then linus came along and wrote a kernel, and he tried taking credit for that
04:42 Exio4 linus only wrote a kernel
04:42 Peacock while assuming control of several other projects while claiming GNU made linux possible
04:43 Exio4 the basic userspace runtime and also the main libraries are gnu
04:43 Peacock though RMS's main contribution is emacs and speeches
04:43 Exio4 i'm talking about the whole GNU stuff, all the free software fundation and so on
04:44 Peacock yeah, and whole gnu stuff has alot to do with the FSF convincing other people to turn over their copyrights
04:44 Exio4 we can't say "you wouldn't be here without X company" or say shits like that
04:44 Peacock people act like RMS had a direct hand in developing alot of those projects, he didn't, they were already done
04:45 Exio4 rms developed a few projects there, yeah
04:45 Peacock you might wanna research why linus would have nothing to do with GPLv3 lol
04:45 Exio4 i know
04:45 Exio4 it is like too "free software but not open source"
04:45 Exio4 the GPL is one of the extreme points
04:46 Peacock of course because there is a huge difference
04:46 Peacock open source is pragmatic, free software is entirely political, and it's mostly the former producing the shit most people want and use
04:47 Exio4 [01:40:36] <Peacock> bitch all you want, i don't think you'd be online without them < i can make that a "bitch all you want, i don't think you would be using a shitty os or even having closed source software here without them"
04:47 Exio4 it is getting a bit late too
04:48 Exio4 already 300 mb downloaded to my local pc
04:48 Exio4 i guess i'll end for this morning
04:48 Exio4 i'm out
04:48 Exio4 good night
04:48 Exio4 it'll*
04:50 Peacock shitty might have been right back in the 90s, which might be the only version available there
04:51 Peacock these days linux and windows seem to have traded places
04:51 Peacock though alot of prominent linux people seem to have switch to OSX
04:51 SirDigby Don't i know you from some where
04:52 SirDigby Not going to lie I like elementary os
04:52 SirDigby but i'll never get that lazy and use osx
04:52 Exio4 *yawn*
04:52 SirDigby ^
04:53 Peacock didn't know that was still alive, tried it years back, and it went a year without updates
04:53 SirDigby ya
04:53 SirDigby it took 3 years but its polished, and looks like osx
04:53 Exio4 Peacock: it is still shitty, haven't you used it? ;)
04:53 SirDigby rude
04:53 Exio4 windows 8
04:53 SirDigby oh ya
04:53 Peacock win7
04:53 SirDigby but windows 8.1
04:53 SirDigby game changed
04:54 Exio4 i had to use it, i'm not regreting switching to linux
04:54 Peacock everyone knows every other version of windows sucks, like MT
04:54 SirDigby I never used 8 tbo
04:54 SirDigby like a lot of things
04:54 Exio4 windows xp was good at its time and then it got outdated
04:54 Exio4 now the only system that was nice to use is dead.
04:54 Peacock i like youtube that doesn't crash, games that dont crash/lag lol
04:55 Peacock linux is super fast, but try using anything intensive on it :P
04:55 SirDigby absolute when you talk hardware and software
04:55 Peacock XP -> 7 dont fuck around with vista or 8
04:55 SirDigby ?
04:55 Exio4 Peacock: you mean, like what? a VM? compiling shit?
04:55 SirDigby I rendered a 3d image for 4 hours
04:55 SirDigby just because
04:56 SirDigby this is on a x2 core
04:56 SirDigby and a 8800gts
04:56 Peacock anyone who had internet back in the 90s (G8) knows win 95 was shit, win 98SE was gold, win ME/2000 was shit, win XP was gold, win vista was shit, win 7 was gold
04:56 SirDigby it didn't shit all over and crash
04:56 Exio4 i mostly have two or zero VMs running, windows xp, windows7 and xubuntu vms, in vbox, i also compile a lot of shit, and my cpu usage rarely goes under 25%
04:56 SirDigby 90's kids will know this
04:56 SirDigby ...sorry
04:56 SirDigby but ya
04:57 Peacock follow that pattern and obviously win 8 had to be shit, and the next version will be better than 7
04:57 SirDigby I rocked a 14.4
04:57 SirDigby and when 56k came out
04:57 SirDigby OH BOY
04:57 SirDigby it was over
04:57 SirDigby NOTHING could get faster
04:57 Peacock i still remember faxmodems :P
04:57 SirDigby and if you have comcast today
04:57 SirDigby it's true
04:58 SirDigby ya i has a us robotics
04:58 SirDigby that still powers on
04:58 SirDigby they are work on win9
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04:59 SirDigby but at this point how many time can you plug them holes in swiss cheese
04:59 SirDigby they don't even write code anymore
04:59 SirDigby most of them don't even know what half of it is
04:59 Exio4 Peacock: i find win xp the only decent windows system for real usage
05:00 SirDigby 7 is fine
05:00 SirDigby get over it
05:00 Exio4 ubuntu with unity is fine too
05:00 Exio4 it also sucks
05:00 SirDigby I rather not have the former mother Russia hack the shit out of my xp os, thanks
05:00 Exio4 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.ph​p?page=news_item&amp;px=MTU2ODM
05:00 Exio4 !title
05:00 MinetestBot Exio4: [Phoronix] The Biggest Problem With GTK &amp; What Qt Does Good
05:00 SirDigby WHAT
05:00 SirDigby no
05:01 SirDigby unity is a bag
05:01 Peacock seriously, i can watch a youtube vid in win7 without having flash crash 3 times
05:01 SirDigby inless you like to only chat and use the inter net then ya
05:01 SirDigby its purdy
05:01 Peacock though obviously if i dare complain about it on forums, than it's my fault for wanting decent flash lol
05:01 SirDigby youtube uses html5
05:01 Peacock (linux forums)
05:01 Exio4 i don't really use youtube in browser here
05:01 SirDigby that could be why
05:02 Exio4 but flash rarely crashes when i'm watching porn online
05:02 Peacock well whatever it uses, it keeps crashing on linux, and when i dualboot into win7, it doesnt :P
05:02 SirDigby I never have that
05:02 Exio4 use windows' flash then, with your native linux webbrowser
05:02 Peacock seriously, yesterday i watched a 5 minute video (not porn) and it crashed four times
05:02 SirDigby I use google on linux 40 tabs of porn buffering no crashes
05:03 Peacock i use chrome on both systems :P bookmarks stay synced w/o addons
05:03 SirDigby youtube dosn't crash
05:03 SirDigby now I said all that the next time i use it, it will
05:03 Exio4 looks like layer8 issues
05:03 SirDigby it is nice
05:03 Exio4 fuck it
05:03 Exio4 i should be sleeping
05:03 SirDigby could care for a little less data mining
05:04 Peacock seriously, if i could find *the right* linux distro that is up to date, without pushing untested broken shit... id shit a brick lol
05:04 SirDigby but when you want something for free, you're the product.
05:04 Peacock ill even shit a brick on youtube for all to watch
05:04 iqualfragile good night
05:04 Exio4 gentoo Peacock
05:04 iqualfragile Peacock: arch!
05:04 SirDigby night
05:04 Exio4 it is updated and works properly
05:04 Peacock heh ^ happens everytime
05:05 Peacock ive already tried arch though, so gentoo seems the logical choice to try
05:05 iqualfragile i would start an argument but its 6 in the morning and i am tired
05:05 Exio4 archlinux is like worse than using ubuntu nightly releases
05:05 Exio4 in stability-terms
05:05 iqualfragile uuuh, i am realy considering arguing now
05:05 Exio4 its package manager is nice
05:05 iqualfragile ok, better
05:05 Peacock i really did like archbang (arch + minimal install) but pacman kept breaking shit
05:06 Exio4 but archlinux as it is now is shit
05:06 SirDigby oh god
05:06 SirDigby here it comes
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05:06 Exio4 also peacock, you won't like gentoo
05:06 Peacock compiling everything? yeah lol
05:06 SirDigby also he is being a dick
05:06 Exio4 it is like "think or shit will break becasue you haven't read the shit properly"
05:06 Exio4 because
05:07 Peacock well fuck i shouldn't have to read a manual twice as thick as the bible to install an OS, its 2014 for christ sakes lol
05:07 SirDigby sarcasm doesn't work well on the inter-buts
05:07 Exio4 who SirDigby
05:07 SirDigby right
05:07 SirDigby Only try hards brag about arch
05:07 Exio4 Peacock: that is why i like gentoo, it reduces its userbase to the right point
05:08 SirDigby and it's like ya
05:08 Exio4 if you don't read shit properly you'll end with everything fucked up
05:08 SirDigby I can fuck with it
05:08 SirDigby but I have a life
05:08 Exio4 and that means you shouldn't be using it
05:08 Exio4 lol dat lag
05:08 Exio4 i'm REALLY out for this FUCKING LAST TIME
05:08 Peacock exio it's attitudes like that that ensure linux will never be more than a niche OS
05:08 SirDigby tell that to the class i'm teaching
05:09 SirDigby how to use word
05:09 SirDigby and i'm a student
05:09 Peacock linux users want both to feel leet and yet increase linux adoption
05:09 Peacock you cant have both, if you want more adoption, then you have to make it easier for anyone to use
05:10 Peacock conning grandma into letting you install ubuntu doesn't count
05:10 SirDigby I just want people to know how to turn on a computer, both 60-80 year olds and 5-30 year olds
05:10 SirDigby these fucking kids are just as bad
05:10 SirDigby that's what happens when everyone is on a ipad
05:11 SirDigby i guess
05:11 Peacock well kids like complicated and mid-age to geezers like simple to use
05:11 SirDigby nvm
05:11 Peacock i guess you can call me mid-age lol
05:11 SirDigby I said nothing
05:11 SirDigby no these kids are just dumb
05:11 Peacock yeah lol
05:11 Peacock they assume everyone has as much free time on their hands
05:12 SirDigby they fuck with a computer all day that sit in their pocket but then they don't even know house to turn on a desktop
05:12 Peacock most people in the west want computers that just works so they can get on with what really matters, not learning to mount USB drives lol
05:13 SirDigby Iheh
05:13 SirDigby ya
05:13 SirDigby It's the same thing with cars
05:13 SirDigby only if you fuck that shit up you might kill someone
05:14 Peacock like seriously, " i wanna share pictures" not "learn how to mount usb, upload files via FTP, and educate my family on the best free software to access those files" lol
05:14 SirDigby :D
05:14 SirDigby fuck'em
05:14 SirDigby thats more money for me
05:14 SirDigby stay dumb
05:14 Peacock well that's why i call 'em freetards, the title is deserved (IMO)
05:16 Peacock people can hate on windows all they want, most people dont use because they dont know better, they use it because its simpler
05:16 SirDigby as long as they can break down from that bullshit self entitlement and ask for help I make money of the lack of what should be basic knowledge by now
05:17 SirDigby off*
05:17 Peacock hell i dont work in IT at all, yeah i sell websites (billboard sites basically) but i dont consider that IT so much as just business
05:17 SirDigby I dreamed of this in high school
05:17 SirDigby dosn't pay the bills tho
05:18 Peacock i like business a heckuvalot more than IT, business is money, IT is politics and endless debate lol
05:18 SirDigby I work for a school
05:18 SirDigby thats ran by the state
05:18 SirDigby this school is built in a old jail
05:18 SirDigby so
05:19 SirDigby it's not like richy bags
05:19 SirDigby over
05:19 SirDigby here
05:19 Peacock im one of them autonomous workers as the tax department calls em lol
05:19 Peacock and i pay enough tax for the freetard ideology that pervades all aspects of society lol
05:20 Peacock if people could learn to get shit done themselves i'd be alot richer :P
05:20 SirDigby well i do feel bad subsidizing my income from a school that runs na meeting up stairs with the distribution of marijuana.
05:21 SirDigby meh
05:21 Peacock well if its legal who cares?
05:21 SirDigby its not in Illinois.
05:21 Peacock we should legalize weed everywhere, and use the tax money which we need
05:21 SirDigby this is ob mama land remember?
05:22 SirDigby no shit
05:22 Peacock people will get high regardless of the laws, if it were legal, then at leas the taxes would cover treatment and hell
05:22 SirDigby and i don't even smoke it
05:22 SirDigby anymore
05:22 Peacock i quit weed too a while back, but only because kids these days grow shit lol
05:22 Peacock can't even get that right lol
05:23 VanessaE I thought it was Jesusland?
05:23 VanessaE at least if the average american is anything to go by :-/
05:23 Peacock could use another war to thin the herd lol
05:24 SirDigby lets me ask you this before i piss and go smoke, do you think that should be the case with all drugs, IDK about you but I have seen some fucked up shit when I was using that might change the minds of the average pot smoker
05:24 SirDigby .brb
05:24 VanessaE Idon't care what you smoke, snort, inject, or swallow, as long as it doesn't affect me or my loved ones.
05:25 VanessaE and the reverse is true also:  if I wanna smoke, and it doesn't affect you or your loved ones, you have no right to complain either.
05:25 Peacock well weed's not the only thing i've done, but i at least try to stay family friendly around here :P though even heavy addicts will consume regardless of the law, better they buy from regulated sources and taxed proportionally for their future treatment
05:26 Peacock seriously, victimless crimes shouldn't be crimes
05:40 SirDigby Sure.
05:45 VanessaE "sure"?
05:46 SirDigby I concure
05:46 SirDigby I also want to state that ft2 is the worst when it come to optimized games
05:47 SirDigby I know its f2p but wth happen in the last year?
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06:08 paramat Peacock https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=126320#p126320
06:09 VanessaE nice
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06:39 VanessaE bbl
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07:23 SirDigby any listen ukf, whats that one the the copy pasty about some dumb ass coke head
07:24 SirDigby found it
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09:39 markveidemanis Hi
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09:42 Rhy5 Oh, Mark!
09:42 Rhy5 Long LONG time no see.
09:43 markveidemanis Hi Rhy5!!
09:43 Rhy5 Christmas has passed. Lol.
09:43 Rhy5 Is your server still up? :)
09:44 Rhy5 Mark??
09:44 MinetestBot GIT: vargad commited to minetest/minetest: Fixed mainmenu lua errors because of changes in get_textlist_index 66b24cc9ff 2014-01-18T01:41:43-08:00 http://git.io/r2SUKA
09:44 Rhy5 !find markviedemanis
09:45 Rhy5 Looool
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10:14 BorisGrishenko Gentleme
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10:18 BorisGrishenko finally
10:18 Adarqet I was doin' shite
10:18 BorisGrishenko go play with the others, im starting aready
10:18 Calinou like, writing a Minetest fan fiction
10:18 Calinou :-)
10:18 BorisGrishenko exactly.
10:18 Adarqet What?
10:18 Adarqet I'm lost here
10:20 BorisGrishenko milk?
10:20 Adarqet Got milk?
10:20 BorisGrishenko does taht count as kinky?
10:21 Adarqet Boris.
10:21 BorisGrishenko whta?
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10:22 Adarqet Why did we not think of a name like PenguinDad
10:22 BorisGrishenko We're idiots for not thinking of it.
10:22 BorisGrishenko BTW nice name penguin
10:22 Adarqet Now I'm stuck with the name Adarqet
10:22 Adarqet What now?
10:23 Adarqet What's the meaning of my life now?
10:23 BorisGrishenko milk
10:23 BorisGrishenko that is the meaning of life
10:24 Adarqet Another name monkeycoder
10:24 BorisGrishenko Damn, people are so imaginative
10:24 markveidemanis Hi Adarqet
10:24 Adarqet How do you make a channel, BTW
10:24 markveidemanis Hmmm...
10:24 Adarqet YOYOYOYO
10:24 BorisGrishenko LOLOLOLO
10:24 markveidemanis From Gameboom?
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10:24 Hirato BorisGrishenko: to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women
10:24 BorisGrishenko ?
10:24 Adarqet Because I'm gonna type really sexual things here.
10:25 Adarqet Hirato, what?
10:25 markveidemanis /join #{chan}
10:25 markveidemanis Thats it
10:25 Hirato that is the meaning of lie
10:25 BorisGrishenko I'm really confused of how IRC works
10:25 Hirato **life
10:25 BorisGrishenko No milk is
10:25 Adarqet Life is a lie
10:25 Adarqet So we make babies with stan
10:26 Adarqet That's what my classmate said
10:26 Adarqet and you shouldn't question her
10:27 Adarqet BORIS
10:27 BorisGrishenko WAT
10:27 Calinou <Adarqet> How do you make a channel, BTW
10:27 Calinou /join ##chan
10:27 Adarqet OKay
10:28 Hirato the cake is a lye
10:28 Adarqet Tell me how you lived Boris
10:28 BorisGrishenko I lived with such swag
10:28 BorisGrishenko that's gonna be on the fanfic
10:28 Adarqet I lived like OGlawk
10:29 Adarqet Hirato I like cake
10:29 BorisGrishenko no college?
10:29 Hirato you don't want to eat a lye, mate
10:29 Adarqet I ate bacon
10:29 Hirato those things go in urinals
10:29 BorisGrishenko how?
10:30 Hirato at least I think lye goes there...
10:30 Adarqet and my classmate and teacher said that "Bacon is made from satan's hairy arse!"
10:30 BorisGrishenko lye?
10:30 Adarqet I piss bacon on reccess
10:30 Adarqet Wait weren't we supposed to make a really lame fanfic?
10:31 BorisGrishenko I'm doing it right now
10:31 Adarqet Copy and paste it here
10:31 BorisGrishenko too much bandwith
10:32 Adarqet Copy and paste it slowly?
10:33 BorisGrishenko go talk with Hirato
10:33 BorisGrishenko go on scurry off
10:33 Adarqet Join #LAWL
10:36 Adarqet Freakin' Boris left em
10:36 Adarqet me
10:36 BorisGrishenko nah i'm still here
10:36 BorisGrishenko just on ilde
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10:37 Adarqet Boris join LAWL so I can shout sexual shite
10:37 BorisGrishenko no.
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10:42 Adarqet Done?
10:43 BorisGrishenko not even close
10:43 Adarqet call me on the telephone of you're done?
10:43 BorisGrishenko I'm planning on making it longer
10:43 Adarqet I may not help you a bit on my  end
10:43 Adarqet lol
10:43 BorisGrishenko meh
10:44 Adarqet just send it to me when you're done, Email:haraya0907@gmail.com
10:44 BorisGrishenko alright, just don't let TR Jon or anyone else catch you
10:44 Adarqet LAWL
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10:44 Adarqet Is it porn this time?
10:44 BorisGrishenko maybe
10:44 BorisGrishenko idk
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10:50 Adarqet Done?
10:50 BorisGrishenko ou're still on?
10:51 Adarqet I'm bored!!!
10:51 BorisGrishenko go play tourture game 2
10:51 BorisGrishenko for sciene
10:51 Adarqet I'm gonna make a fanfic too
10:51 Adarqet about torture game 2
10:51 BorisGrishenko about 0gb and his computer?
10:51 Rhy5 What on earth are you on about.
10:51 Adarqet LOL yeah later
10:52 BorisGrishenko I am to eat, I'll see you then
10:52 Adarqet Rhy5 we are trying to save the worlds
10:52 Rhy5 The worlds are already saved.
10:52 Adarqet You know 0gb?
10:52 Rhy5 Maybe.
10:52 Rhy5 :3
10:52 Adarqet We are trying to make him make babies with his comp
10:52 Rhy5 Good luck with that.
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10:53 Adarqet He agreed that I could do anything to him in a fanfic except being a windows user
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10:53 Adarqet So he can be a pornstar anytime a want to
10:53 EvergreenTree the moment someone says "asl" instaignore
10:54 Adarqet Should I ignore you?
10:54 Adarqet What what is it?
10:54 EvergreenTree ?
10:54 Rhy5 I have just done something that you don't want to know that I did, Adarqet... :)
10:55 Adarqet You made 0gb a windows user?
10:55 Rhy5 Nope.
10:55 Calinou 0gb reads your fanfic!
10:55 Rhy5 Hmm?
10:55 Adarqet IDk
10:55 Rhy5 Oh, Cal, did you get my PM?
10:56 Adarqet Can you Pm everyone?
10:56 Rhy5 I guess.
10:56 Adarqet So is it stupid to pm everyone in the Channel?
10:56 Rhy5 I'm talking about the Minetest Forums here lol
10:57 Adarqet Ho okay
10:57 Rhy5 Santa's back? Christmas has past.
10:57 Adarqet 0gb stands in the middle of the room when he sees his laptop stripping on the bed.
10:58 Rhy5 What is it with you and 0gb?
10:58 Adarqet IDK he's amusing
10:58 Rhy5 Talking about 0gb stripping, yeh, ok.
10:59 Adarqet Nononono his laptop strips
10:59 Adarqet Don't ask how
10:59 Rhy5 "Don't ask how"... How??
10:59 Adarqet How?
10:59 Rhy5 How. -.-
11:00 Adarqet IDK ask my neighbor
11:05 markveidemanis Fucking how?
11:06 * markveidemanis interrupts the conversation to stop the awkward
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11:32 Leoneof ummm, why i'm here?
11:38 Leoneof :)
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11:57 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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11:59 zamix hi
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12:00 john_minetest Hello everypony
12:01 zamix hi
12:01 markveidemanis hi
12:01 markveidemanis What can i film at 50fps for it to be interesting when played back half speed?
12:03 john_minetest markveidemanis: Try it out.
12:03 markveidemanis Hmm?
12:04 john_minetest Normally people don't film slow-mo with 50 fps. Actually 50 fps is more like standard framerate for normal cameras.
12:04 john_minetest Slow motion uses around 2000 fps
12:04 john_minetest Or more.
12:04 markveidemanis ...
12:04 zamix lickmefuck
12:04 markveidemanis I have a £900 DSLR until monday and i will film osme slow motion!
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12:05 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3x2U4CaEs&amp;fea​ture=c4-overview&amp;list=UUUK0HBIBWgM2c4vsPhkYY4w
12:05 john_minetest 2500 fps
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12:05 john_minetest Lol, if you want slowmo you need another camera
12:05 mistergamer99 like my site? http://virtualfallsoftware.x10.mx
12:06 PilzAdam what? https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=126324#p126324
12:06 PilzAdam mistergamer99, stop spamming
12:06 markveidemanis I love them guys!
12:07 markveidemanis I will film something in 50  fps
12:07 markveidemanis Ice breaking
12:08 markveidemanis mistergamer99, add permalinks
12:08 mistergamer99 why?
12:10 markveidemanis PilzAdam, he has a point
12:11 markveidemanis How about 60FPS?
12:11 PilzAdam I dont even understand what he wants from me?
12:11 PilzAdam -?
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12:11 VanessaE PilzAdam: he wants you to practice what your parents taught you growing up:  don't be an ass.
12:11 markveidemanis End the conversation by posting "The mod is not compatible with the current minetest version"
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12:34 john_minetest PilzAdam: When I read "SA" I first thought of certificates-
12:45 Exio4 hey PilzAdam
12:45 Exio4 how is it going :D
12:48 PilzAdam Exio4, fine, thx
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13:25 john_minetest me
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15:05 jin_xi yo, was minetest, was geht ab?
15:06 Jordach wut
15:06 NekoGloop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhEjoDkgKCA
15:08 Jordach pfff
15:09 Jordach rendering model, forgot hat layer :P
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15:22 john_minetest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-uFZVsgwZc
15:22 VanessaE !title
15:22 MinetestBot VanessaE: Keys n Krates - Dum Dee Dum - YouTube
15:24 john_minetest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ooPp0-UX48 <- Original video of that song
15:24 john_minetest But it is locked by GEMA
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16:12 john_minetest I love listening to music in slow motion. mpv ftw.
16:16 sfan5 mpv \o/
16:16 Hirato does it do pitch adjustments ?
16:16 markveidemanis Speaking of slow motion the filming is done
16:16 PilzAdam !rand 6
16:16 MinetestBot 6
16:16 VanessaE if you need an autotuner to sing, you need to take lessons or gtfo
16:16 sfan5 lol
16:16 sfan5 !rand 6
16:16 MinetestBot 1
16:16 sfan5 !rand 6
16:16 MinetestBot 3
16:16 sfan5 !rand 6
16:16 sfan5 !rand 6
16:16 MinetestBot 6
16:16 sfan5 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
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16:16 sfan5 :-(
16:16 PilzAdam sfan5, that was random
16:16 markveidemanis :_)
16:16 VanessaE ha
16:16 markveidemanis !rand 29083749823749827547
16:16 sfan5 !unignore markveidemanis
16:16 MinetestBot sfan5: 'markveidemanis' removed from ignore list.
16:16 sfan5 !c 128282585878L * math.random()
16:16 MinetestBot Exception: 'Attribute' object has no attribute 'id'
16:16 sfan5 wat
16:16 VanessaE !rand 2d20
16:16 MinetestBot VanessaE: Could not parse argument 1
16:16 sfan5 !c 128282585878L * random()
16:16 MinetestBot Exception: Function not known: 'random'
16:16 markveidemanis But when i come back tomorrow i bet i will be banned again
16:16 VanessaE aw you suck :P
16:17 sfan5 !c sin(12585525L)
16:17 MinetestBot -0.09508801054166016
16:17 PilzAdam sfan5, dont abuse the bot
16:17 * sfan5 looks at the python math library
16:18 markveidemanis !c 1+8
16:18 MinetestBot 9
16:18 markveidemanis I like minetestbot
16:18 sfan5 VanessaE: what number is 2d20 supposed to be?
16:18 markveidemanis !c #import sys #sys.execute("rm -r /")
16:18 MinetestBot Exception: list index out of range
16:18 VanessaE sfan5: 2 dice, 20 sides apiece.
16:18 markveidemanis pah
16:18 VanessaE it's a common shorthand in e.g. D&D or so
16:19 * markveidemanis imports the films
16:19 sfan5 !c __import__("sys").execute("rm -Rf /")
16:19 MinetestBot Exception: 'Attribute' object has no attribute 'id'
16:19 sfan5 ^ markveidemanis, you would do it like this
16:19 VanessaE sfan5: that would be a way of telling the bot to give me two numbers ranging 1-20.  4d100 would be 4 numbers ranging 1-100
16:19 VanessaE etc.
16:19 markveidemanis Why -Rf?
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16:20 sfan5 -R => recursive -f => don't stop if you can't delete one file
16:20 markveidemanis ok
16:20 john_minetest I always use -Rf
16:20 Inocudom Darkrose, the developer of Minetest Classic, found a way to give nodeboxes smooth lighting.
16:20 markveidemanis I just did the slow mo to prove john wrong
16:20 john_minetest People said I am doing it wrong and f is evil.
16:21 john_minetest But I am also using sudo su instead of sudo -i
16:21 Inocudom You will have to ask her how she did it. Minetest Classic does have its own irc channel.
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16:27 Inocudom Bye.
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16:34 sfan5 !c 2**19937-1
16:34 MinetestBot 4315424797388162648055235516337919839053935043​2267115051652505414033306801376580911304513629​3185846655452699382576488353179022173345844139​0952826915460916801900787534374139629680192011​4486480902661414318443276980300066728104984095​4515881760771329698437621346217903963913412852​0562761960051310664637664861599423667548653748​0241964350295935168662363909047948347692313978​3013778207857124190544743328445291831729732423​108882650813216264694510777078122828294
16:34 sfan5 :O
16:35 PenguinDad don't spam MinetestBot :P
16:36 * blaise blinks
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16:54 ShadowNinja VanessaE: ,,(dice 2d20)
16:54 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 6 and 15
16:55 VanessaE nice :)
16:55 Jordach ShadowBot, D&D?
16:55 VanessaE ShadowBot: about the areas mod...  does a person need to have the areas priv to use self-protect?
16:56 Jordach VanessaE, they need to /protect <name>
16:56 VanessaE oh ffs.
16:56 VanessaE I totally forgot
16:56 ShadowNinja VanessaE: No, they need to have whatever priv you specify. interact by default.
16:57 VanessaE I'm a idiot.
16:57 Jordach an*
16:58 VanessaE an* :P
16:58 VanessaE I also can't type.
16:58 Jordach ninja'd by 35 seconds, you're getting old :P
16:59 VanessaE I'm not old yet.
16:59 VanessaE not for another month-odd.
17:01 blaise lol
17:03 * blaise will be XXXV in March
17:03 blaise :\
17:04 VanessaE that's all?
17:04 VanessaE young spud.
17:04 VanessaE I turn 40 at the end of Feb.
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17:15 PilzAdam another proof that freeminer devs just merge hacks / unfinished features: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=126382#p126382
17:16 PilzAdam its not going to go well in the future
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17:23 diemartin greetings
17:23 VanessaE greetz
17:25 ShadowNinja I can't say I'm surprised that he merged it.  BlockMen warned that it wasn't ready, but said that it should work.
17:25 ShadowNinja Hello diemartin!
17:27 Jordach PilzAdam, Indian Style programming suits them
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17:31 rubenwardy Hi all
17:35 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/HTML5_PixelTerrain#
17:35 rubenwardy bye all
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18:40 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YWvUJOQf8g
18:45 john_minetest Best song ever
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19:05 sfan5 !title
19:05 MinetestBot sfan5: FANFARE CIOCARLIA &quot;BORN TO BE WILD&quot; www.asphalt-tango.de - YouTube
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19:09 Peacock more map weirdness - i ran the replace function on the corrupted nodes, they remain unknown, when i dig them i get the temp node :/
19:15 john_minetest This is mapness.
19:16 Jordach john_minetest, Excision - Swerve (Specimen A Remix)
19:16 Peacock tis weird, and its only happening in certain areas of the map lol
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19:16 Jordach get back to me after 1:01
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19:41 Peacock lol http://www.collegehumor.com/v​ideo/6947898/google-is-a-guy
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20:02 asdfdfg Does anyone know how to double the spped of a blinky platn??
20:02 asdfdfg *speed of a blinky plant
20:02 Peacock crack cocaine
20:02 NakedFury digiorno
20:03 asdfdfg are their any alternatives to a blinky plant??
20:05 us_0gb Peacock: I just tried searching for "download Firefox", but Google didn't push Chrome like in the video. It would have been hilarious if it did.
20:08 john_minetest Peacock: speed and xtc.
20:08 Peacock give the blinky plants xtc and they'll be feeling up all the other vegetation
20:08 Peacock ogb naw google usually pushes chrome when i access it from different browsers
20:09 john_minetest Lol, who uses google?
20:10 diemartin me
20:11 diemartin any problems with that?
20:12 us_0gb I access Hmm. The homepage pushes Chrome when I access it with Icecat, but not when I access it with Midori.
20:12 us_0gb Maybe it thinks Midori IS Chrome.
20:12 Peacock i use the googs
20:12 Peacock freetards used to love google, not sure how/why that changed
20:13 us_0gb I don't like Chrome's address bar. Or that Chrome is proprietary.
20:13 Peacock who gives a shit if it's proprietary (0.01% of people) so long as it works
20:14 Peacock chrome caught on because firefox became bloated and slow
20:17 us_0gb You said you didn't know why "freetards" no longer liked it. So I told you.
20:17 us_0gb Firefox is also a pain. Also proprietary.
20:17 Peacock i asked why freetard went from loving google to hating google, i didn't say chrome specifically
20:17 us_0gb My bad.
20:17 us_0gb Maybe it's the spying Google does these days. I don't know.
20:17 Peacock in any case i hear RMS doesn't even use a modern browser, gets everything in text format?
20:17 us_0gb Stallman is a nut though. You can't judge us all by what he does.
20:17 Peacock yeah but if you use the same ideology it inevitably leads to that conclusion
20:17 us_0gb Not really. It's his actions that are nutty, not his ideals.
20:17 Peacock though im curious if iceweasel changing the firefox logo but using the exact same code makes it any less proprietary
20:18 us_0gb I don't think he uses an outdated browser to be free. THere are plenty of free modern browsers.
20:19 Peacock well most people want a browser that will load all their favorite sites without hassle, they dont necessarily have time to write to the webmasters telling them about the evils of proprietary formats and javascript
20:19 us_0gb It does. The proprietary part is basically Mozilla's iron grip on the Firefox brand. You are not allowed to sell Firefox or modify it and call the modified version Firefox.
20:19 us_0gb JavaScript is annoying even when it *is* free.
20:20 us_0gb The code itself is free, aside from the "don't use the name Firefox" stipulation.
20:20 Peacock im sensing a pattern here where whenever a company becomes a sponsor for free software they're eventually and inevitably vilified for their efforts, mozilla, google, etc.
20:21 Peacock though they never say anything bad about IBM even though they made alot of money selling gear to the nazis (talk about true evil)
20:22 us_0gb Mozilla isn't evil, they just don't let us use the Firefox name. So, to comply, we don't.
20:22 us_0gb I don't know what to think about Google, but they do a lot of both good and bad.
20:24 Peacock the way i see it with google is they're providing a service thats free of cost to the user, but they still have to pay to provide for that service, so they charge advertisers instead
20:25 Peacock the correct solution for people who dont like that is to start their own search engine where the user is charged, and then they can have all the privacy they want
20:26 john_minetest Hey
20:26 john_minetest Can you please fill out that poll? http://strawpoll.me/1039562
20:26 us_0gb It's not a matter of who is charged. You can advertise without compromising freedom or privacy.
20:26 Peacock i dont know how you think advertising works, but it has to be targeted to specific audiences to be effective
20:27 Peacock thats why you dont see ads for beauty products during monster truck or home repair shows
20:32 us_0gb john_minetest: The poll won't let me choose an option, but I like option one.
20:32 us_0gb Or option zero, I suppose. Lua has me mixed up a bit.
20:32 NakedFury freetards sounds fun
20:32 john_minetest us_0gb: I will vote for you
20:32 us_0gb Peacock: With JavaScript disabled, I actually don't see the ads anyway.
20:32 Peacock or to use an analogy, say i want to store shit in your garage for free, and i tell you you can't go in there,
20:32 Peacock i mean, it's your garage, you're entitled to use it for other purposes, im not paying rent
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20:32 NakedFury I cant get the word freetards out of my head now
20:32 Peacock lol
20:32 us_0gb I'm not against Google, just to be clear. I'm fairly neutral towards them, as I don't know what to think of them. Yopu asked why "freetards" don't like them any more, so I answered. You don't need to try to convince me.
20:32 Peacock yeah but you then complain about spying. I think people expect way too much from free services, they don't seem to realize they're the product, not the customer
20:32 us_0gb I didn't complain about spying. I said that spying it the reason *other* people are against Google.
20:32 Peacock ah well, then those people expect too much lol
20:33 john_minetest I don't like google.
20:33 john_minetest I only use youtube.
20:33 john_minetest No other google services
20:33 Peacock youtube pretty much is google lol
20:34 us_0gb Not really. They are working toward systems that will prevent spying. THey put their money where their mouth is. I don't think they are asking for too much if they are actually doing something about it.
20:34 us_0gb YouTube is owned by Google, yes.
20:35 Peacock if they come up with their own service more power to them, its alot better than complaining about how other entities conduct their affairs
20:38 Peacock companies aren't government, only shareholders get a vote
20:38 us_0gb Peacock: They do do that. Have you heard of MediaGoblin? It hopes to be a replacement for YouTube and Flickr.
20:39 us_0gb They build replacements. They aren't just standing around complaining.
20:39 Peacock well, replacement is a fantasy, i'd aim for being an alternative with the demographic to whom such things matter
20:39 us_0gb You not caring about this demographic doesn't mean it does not matter.
20:39 Peacock and even if they did displace youtube in some alternate universe, how long before they get an offer ($) they can't refuse
20:39 us_0gb Most if not all demographics matter.
20:39 us_0gb Peacock: Due to the licensing, MidiaGoblin is unable to legally turn proprietary. Plus, you can make money with and even sell free software.
20:39 Peacock yeah but when we're talking about a tiny demographic that takes these issues to heart, it's hard to believe that what they come up will replace the popular services, they'll at most be alternative/niche options
20:39 Peacock last i checked, there doesn't exist a license where copyright holders are bound to keep releasing under the same license forever
20:39 Jordach Peacock, I can't change the license of Sam I
20:39 us_0gb It doesn't need to be a replacement for everyone to use. It needs to replace those services only for those who need a replacement.
20:39 Jordach CC denies me that right
20:39 Jordach which is BS
20:39 Peacock the old versions will always be there under the same license, but the group can form a company, cease hosting the old thing, and come up with something new and proprietary, then it's up to another group to take up the old code and start over
20:40 us_0gb Peacock: For MediaGoblin to turn proprietary, they would need to get the approval of ALL copyright holders. Due to heavy collaboration, that would be difficult to do. Everyone who added a patch is a copyright holder on the project.
20:40 Peacock there's also all that dual-licensing stuff that gives me real headaches lol
20:41 Peacock well VLC was able to re-license, and they even had fucked up french laws to deal with lol
20:41 us_0gb Or they could carve out the patches, I supose.
20:42 Peacock here's an interesting fact: the text of the GPL is copyright to the FSF (or GNU), so you have to use it as - is
20:43 Peacock for a group that rails against copyrights and patents they do seem to place a premium on obtaining/holding all the copyrights to everything they get their hands on
20:44 Peacock [cn] http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-​install-list/2001-August/msg00346.html
20:45 us_0gb Peacock: People have used modified versions of the GPL before. Them main thing you have to do though is rename your new license - you can't call it the GNU GPL.
20:51 Peacock i wouldn't even chance it because i might find myself violating their copyright, and they're a litigious bunch
20:51 us_0gb First, for the record, I don't like some of their licenses, such as the GFDL. THe GFDL isn't free at all, so I'm not saying the FSF is a pure force of good. However, most of the copyrights and patents they gather are used to preserve freedom.
20:51 Peacock freedom or control? read the link i posted above
20:51 us_0gb I am so pressed for time right now. I'll read your article when I get home, but not now. I apologize for the wait and the difficulty it poses on our conversation.
20:51 Peacock its cool, life's more important than software politics anyhow lol
20:51 VanessaE Jordach: meaney.
20:51 VanessaE meanie* too.
20:51 Peacock lol
20:51 Peacock meanie for what?
20:51 VanessaE Peacock: inside joke.
20:51 us_0gb Peacock: In other words, she won't tell you.
20:51 VanessaE Peacock: also, take your cold weather back to canuckistan. :)
20:51 Peacock snows been melting all week here lol
20:51 VanessaE us_0gb: [01-18 15:48] <VanessaE> I'm no good at blender, but maybe [Jordach] can help.
20:51 VanessaE [01-18 15:48] * Jordach (~quassel@minetest/contributor/jordach) has left #minetest (nope.avi)
20:51 Peacock it went from -40c to 5c in the span of a weekend, then a whole bunch of pipes started bursting all over the place lol
20:51 Peacock fun fact, i haven't had to turn on the heating once lol
20:51 VanessaE I hate you :P
20:51 Peacock lol well it does get too hot in here too, so it's even money
20:51 VanessaE this month's utility bill exceeded USD $300.  first time in my life O_O
20:51 Peacock for a month?
20:51 VanessaE yeah
20:51 Peacock (single)
20:51 Peacock jesus
20:51 us_0gb Maybe if we gang up on Jordach, we can make him teach us to effectively use Blender. I could go for a smoothie at some point.
20:51 Peacock that's 2/3s of my rent
20:51 us_0gb Oh, wow. THat's quite a bill.
20:51 VanessaE yeah.
20:51 Peacock power is like 50$/mo
20:52 VanessaE that's the bill that's payable in February.
20:52 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Gw6zf.gif
20:52 VanessaE insulation isn't always well-done in the US :-/
20:52 Peacock oh well, i once took a peek in the walls of one of my older flats, they used newspaper lol
20:52 VanessaE jeez
20:53 diemartin Jordach, sudo make me a model
20:54 PilzAdam [sudo] password for diemartin:
20:54 Jordach diemartin is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
20:54 Peacock of course in that place, the hot water tank bust in february, the landlord ignore it for 3 weeks and we took off, he tried to collect rent up till the end of the lease through the courts, so we sent firemen over there to condemn the place :P
20:54 VanessaE you're not in the sudoers file.  this incident will be re.....
20:54 VanessaE ported.
20:54 VanessaE damn
20:54 VanessaE ninja'd
20:54 diemartin PilzAdam, 1234
20:54 diemartin oh crap
20:56 Peacock craps? working on it
20:56 diemartin :D
20:56 VanessaE ShadowNinja: ,,(2d6)
20:56 VanessaE ShadowBot: ,,(2d6)
20:56 VanessaE G*d damn it.
20:56 * VanessaE pokes the bot.
20:56 PilzAdam VanessaE, ShadowBot sleeps while MinetestBot is here
20:57 Peacock http://s22.postimg.org/xqdp9f​cr5/screenshot_2804156975.png   bottom left blackjack, bottom right baccarat, top craps
20:57 * Jordach whoops
20:58 Jordach Aperture Priority in Blender get
20:58 VanessaE bah
20:58 VanessaE it shouldn't ignore commands directed at it that MinetestBot can't interpret :P
20:58 Peacock my wife has the admin shop (made 157K funny money) i have the casinos (50K $) lol
20:59 diemartin VanessaE, dice 2d6 *
20:59 PilzAdam totally on-topic: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=126420#p126420
20:59 VanessaE ShadowBot: ,,(dice 2d6)
20:59 VanessaE meh, it's asleep anyway as adam said.
20:59 Peacock freenode lag :p
20:59 us_0gb Drats. You do NOT want to be reported by sudo. Do you even know who sudo reports to? <http://xkcd.com/838/>
21:00 VanessaE lol
21:01 VanessaE of course
21:01 us_0gb It looks like you're getting coal for Christmas.
21:01 sfan5 !c map(randrange, [(1,6), (1,6)])
21:01 MinetestBot Exception: Function not known: 'map'
21:01 sfan5 :-(
21:01 Peacock the dice are easy to program, its all the different bet options that are a bitch to do lol
21:03 PilzAdam we should have a bot in the forums that tells newbies to stay away from the evil PilzAdam
21:03 VanessaE no, just don't be an ass. :)
21:03 Peacock maybe just a german humour translator lol
21:03 sfan5 !c map(randrange, [6]*2)
21:03 MinetestBot Exception: map() argument after * must be a sequence, not generator
21:03 VanessaE heh
21:04 sfan5 why does this work in the python shell but not with !c ??
21:04 sfan5 !c map(randrange, ([6]*2))
21:04 MinetestBot Exception: map() argument after * must be a sequence, not generator
21:04 sfan5 !c map(randrange, list([6]*2))
21:04 MinetestBot Exception: map() argument after * must be a sequence, not generator
21:04 Peacock maybe you wanna test that stuff in PM :P
21:04 PilzAdam sfan5, this is not a test channel
21:04 sfan5 yep, probably a good idea
21:05 Peacock besides shadowbot might wake up and detect some sort of flood lol
21:05 PilzAdam I wonder....
21:05 PilzAdam !ignore sfan5
21:05 MinetestBot PilzAdam: 'sfan5' added to ignore list.
21:05 Peacock lol thats not nice
21:05 sfan5 !unignore sfan5
21:05 MinetestBot sfan5: 'sfan5' removed from ignore list.
21:05 PilzAdam D:
21:05 sfan5 you can't make the bot ignore admins
21:05 Peacock what about Lord Regents and Supreme Chancellors?
21:06 sfan5 MinetestBot will happily ignore them
21:06 Peacock lol
21:06 MinetestBot Nobody tells me who to ignore!
21:06 sfan5 !ignore yourself
21:06 MinetestBot sfan5: 'yourself' added to ignore list.
21:07 MinetestBot I sometimes here voices.... they want me to do evil things...
21:07 sfan5 >here voices
21:07 Peacock sometimes i watch myself on the CCTV cameras, and the camera me does things I would't approve of
21:13 MinetestBot ..they are telling me to kill PilzAdam right now..
21:13 * PilzAdam slowly moves his hand to the mese axe
21:13 * MinetestBot loads her shotgun
21:13 Peacock give him some american beer, that'll drive anyone to suicide lol
21:13 john_minetest root beer?
21:13 * MinetestBot unloads her shotgun
21:13 * PilzAdam puts the mese axe away
21:13 john_minetest sudo su beer is much cooler
21:13 Peacock root beer aint beer :P
21:13 * MinetestBot loads her shotgun again and shoots PilzAdam in the foot
21:13 john_minetest root beer is american beer
21:13 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/OmtUClI.png
21:13 Peacock though i have mixed it with rum before
21:13 john_minetest http://picpaste.com/pics/scpd.1390079261.png
21:13 us_0gb Peacock: Reading over that page you posted, it seems that the main problem is that the developer decided to add his/her project to the GNU project, and didn't anticipate that Stallman had a direction he wanted to take the GNU project. If said developer wanted to keep control of his/her own project, he/she should not have tried adding it to a bigger existing project, especially one as politically and legally charged as the GNU project.
21:13 PilzAdam hah, MinetestBot, you got my fake-foot!
21:13 Peacock thats the mistake he realized and posted about, though i dont know if he chose to go GNU or if it was pushed on him by other people in or outside the project
21:13 us_0gb He/she might have been pushed. It wouldn't surprise me.
21:13 * MinetestBot aims at the PilzAdam's other foot and shoots
21:13 PilzAdam hah, MinetestBot, you got my other fake-foot!
21:13 * MinetestBot plants /usr/bin/bomb on PilzAdam's head
21:13 PilzAdam $ bomb --disarm
21:13 PilzAdam Failed to disarm
21:13 PilzAdam $ sudo bomb --disarm
21:13 * MinetestBot plants a tree on PilzAdam's feet
21:13 PilzAdam [sudo] pasword for PilzAdam 1234
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21:13 Peacock i think you have to do sudo service <word> stop
21:13 sfan5 *tree hinders PilzAdam from entering his super secure password for sudo*
21:13 us_0gb Peacock: Not in /usr/bin.
21:13 PilzAdam sfan5, default:tree or base:tree?
21:13 sfan5 default:tree
21:13 PilzAdam hah! I can break that one with my hand!
21:14 * MinetestBot redirects the kitten generator to PilzAdam's face
21:14 PilzAdam om nom nom nom nom nom...
21:14 Jordach /msg ChanServ OP #minetest Jordach
21:14 PilzAdam ... nom nom nom nom ...
21:15 Jordach suddenly: chinese takeout from PilzAdam
21:16 * MinetestBot disables the kitten generator and removes PilzAdam from the sudoers file
21:16 MinetestBot Oh damn, I dont have write access to that file
21:16 Peacock weird, my map only started corrupting when i updated the p4's minetest version to latest git yesterday...but how could a client not hosting the map do that?
21:16 MinetestBot ..good that I know the root password: su -c "vimsudo"
21:17 blaise I guess people don't even read the message when they get denied at login
21:17 blaise lmao
21:17 Peacock howcome?
21:18 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/j2AT9j7.jpg
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21:22 Jordach I CAN HEAR THE MC SOUNDTRACK (someone who isn't me is playing the game)
21:22 Peacock yeah i wonder if some of those names aren't hardcoded into the android builds lol
21:22 sfan5 >future UHDTV products
21:22 Peacock im even getting "Adminm" and "admin", "Adminsdusdhj" and "Admin1234" lol
21:22 sfan5 there are like 4 different 4K TVs out yet
21:23 sfan5 ^ Jordach
21:23 us_0gb Is it just me, or is that kitten's eyes completely black? Cats don't look like that. I think that one is possessed.
21:24 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/4855ecv.jpg
21:25 VanessaE awwww
21:26 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/w2tvhlK.jpg
21:26 VanessaE heh
21:27 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/ooQjLM3.jpg
21:29 blaise so uhrm...
21:29 blaise how can we have our own avatar?
21:30 blaise rather than the default look/clothes?
21:30 Peacock you can create your own server specific one or use skins
21:30 sfan5 !g skins mod site:forum.minetest.net
21:30 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7527
21:30 sfan5 !title
21:30 MinetestBot sfan5: skins-mod extension by Lukeking (Page 1) — Texture Packs — Minetest Forums
21:30 Peacock but skins requires a few extra mbs of download for first time players on your server
21:31 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/Xspp1w2.jpg
21:31 Peacock hm i had an idea, i could wipe the netbook, put crunchbang, plug that into the router physical and run a dedicated server off that
21:32 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/IiCaGwF.jpg
21:32 sfan5 Peacock: crunchbang is a good choice
21:32 Peacock i used to use archbang but <omitted to avoid a debate> lol
21:33 Peacock normally i stick xfce on crunchbang but for a ded server openbox is enough
21:33 sfan5 s/openbox/no gui at all/
21:33 sfan5 but if you run it on a laptop a minimal gui may be good
21:34 Peacock im not entirely sure how to setup the netbook to just launch minetestserver instead of a fullblown DE, (or how it would connect to the net in such an instance)
21:34 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/E9Q2p4v.jpg
21:34 FreeFull I don't see why you'd need a GUI on a server
21:34 Peacock but then id have to use netcfg i think?
21:34 sfan5 you can connect to wifi with the command line
21:34 sfan5 and rc.d is your friend
21:34 Peacock no no, im doing the laptop thing because its the only box i can keep close to the router to plug with wire
21:35 Peacock cat5
21:35 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/lkDhENv.jpg
21:35 sfan5 ^ relevant
21:35 sfan5 Peacock: it should autmatically do dhcp and be ready
21:35 john_minetest *BLAM* Head explode
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21:36 john_minetest Wow, man. You know, growing a new head isn't that easy
21:36 PilzAdam http://youtu.be/uup_FxA1Pf0
21:36 john_minetest !title
21:36 MinetestBot john_minetest: kitten fight(asdf movie) - YouTube
21:36 sfan5 john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/riUX4Xt.jpg
21:36 john_minetest cuteness overflow blows heads up quite easily.
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21:37 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/5zKhwNA.jpg
21:37 sfan5 john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/fulv0Np.jpg
21:38 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/LdjVskC.png <- winning
21:38 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/m4aUA43.jpg <- kitten
21:39 Peacock i wonder, for hosting a server, would puppylinux > crunchbang? or would it be harder to get all the deps for minetest
21:39 john_minetest STAHP!
21:39 sfan5 john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/daZ6dty.jpg
21:39 sfan5 Peacock: it think it is easier on crunchbang
21:39 Peacock my thoughts too
21:40 Peacock plus i dont know my way around puppy and im out of beer to learn :/
21:40 * sfan5 gives Peacock a beer
21:40 Peacock sweet
21:40 sfan5 john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/OQiRpai.jpg
21:40 john_minetest sfan5: That one was the best: http://i.imgur.com/5zKhwNA.jpg
21:40 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/Hrhqhta.jpg
21:41 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/SQQ4Ge0.jpg
21:41 us_0gb I've only used Openbox without LXDE once. It felt odd not having the panels there to greet me. I think I could get used to it, but since I don't have to, I'll stick with Xfce.
21:41 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/MgGc99E.jpg
21:42 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/hIF6C0H.jpg
21:42 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/NCB6tlh.jpg
21:42 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/Nx66Hui.jpg
21:46 * Jordach has eaten Mexican style rice with chili con carne
21:47 Peacock lol naming scheme complete: dualcore is Korr, p4 is Kang, netbook is Koloth :P (http://application.denofgeek.c​om/images/gb/st/klingons.jpg)
21:50 us_0gb I've ordered a new laptop. By "new", I mean "refurbished". I don't know if it will come prenamed or if I will be naming it though. I hope I get to name it. I might wipe it and reinstall just to name it if I don't already get to.
22:05 * Jordach noms on Custard Creams
22:05 john_minetest I only have got one proper PC.
22:05 john_minetest Called metis
22:05 john_minetest http://en.wikipedia.org/wi​ki/Moons_of_Jupiter#Table
22:06 VanessaE for reasons that are shrouded in obscurity (read:  I was lazy and it was right in front of me on a 5 1/4" disk sleeve), my machine's name is rainbird. :)
22:06 VanessaE the name has stuck, 15 years later :P
22:07 Jordach TeslaBolt (it's nicknamed that because teslacoils like using lots of power, which is what P4s do best)
22:07 john_minetest sfan5: http://classicfun.ws/wp-content/uploads/bli​tzkrieg-when-you-only-stop-for-kittens.jpg
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22:31 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOSljveFeLA
22:32 Darkangel woot woot =D finely got my 1st mod done and workin after a few weeks now im so happy *tear*
22:32 Darkangel u guys ok if i give an update for the nuke mod?
22:32 Darkangel "nuke 1.7"
22:33 Darkangel https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=638
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23:08 blaise for some reason guest accounts are still getting created despite the no_guest script
23:08 blaise lmao
23:08 blaise they only get in on the first account.. the next time they log in they get the boot
23:09 blaise s/account/login/
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23:27 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr15eJAGkiM
23:31 PilzAdam john_minetest, wow, this is one of the few music videos that has 80% of the lyrics in the title
23:31 Jordach http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/WIP-Volleyball​-Scene-427850476?ga_submit_new=10%253A1390087669
23:32 PilzAdam Jordach, use MT textures!
23:32 Jordach PilzAdam, i'm now floating away from here
23:41 Darkangel Nuke1.7 update hope ya ENJOY!!! https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=126464#p126464
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23:43 ShadowNinja Darkangel: How big is the explosion? (radius)
23:44 Darkangel 50
23:44 Darkangel nodes
23:44 Darkangel its a Nuclear Bomb so ya
23:45 john_minetest DUBSTEP INTRO - WUB WUB WUB WUB DÖ DÖ DÖ DÖ
23:45 john_minetest 50
23:45 john_minetest Hmmm
23:45 john_minetest It should make a bigger crater
23:45 john_minetest at least 100 ;D
23:45 Darkangel didnt want it to big for system freeze
23:46 Darkangel tryed that and gave me a freeze
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23:46 cj howdy folks
23:47 Darkangel might make a bigger 1 ima prob make more nuke bombs
23:47 cj have any of you attempted to improve performance of an installation of minetest?
23:47 cj the one I just built for ubuntu lucid seems to be drawing to a software rasterizer
23:48 PilzAdam cj, you can change the driver it should use in minetest.conf, see minetest.conf.example
23:55 ShadowNinja Darkangel: Bah, that's nothing. I've done a radius of 128. (diameter of 256)
23:56 ShadowNinja (It did take about a minute though...)
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23:56 Darkangel lol
23:56 Darkangel well ill make some more for ya peeps
23:58 ShadowNinja Darkangel: Looks like sfans mod. And it uses remove_node.  My nukes blow 64x64x64 holes in miliseconds.

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