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00:00 cornernote hey john_minetest
00:00 ShadowNinja Hello cornernote!
00:00 cornernote hi ShadowNinja
00:00 cornernote whats up everyone ?
00:01 john_minetest Not that much.
00:01 ShadowNinja Well, I fixed a bug in the screwdriver.
00:01 * ShadowNinja checks if that main menu fix got pushed yet.
00:02 cornernote when i was building mods, the engine hardly changed at all... now i come back and there are ooodles of new engine features
00:02 john_minetest gtg (have to continue that discworld book), cya
00:02 john_minetest ;)
00:02 cornernote it used to seem mods were pushing the boundaries of the engine... now it seems the mods need to catch up with what the engine can do
00:03 ShadowNinja Yep.  :-D
00:03 cornernote i re-did all my mod pages (still not 100% complete, but getting there) - http://cornernote.github.io/minetest
00:04 cornernote and been thinking about making a skyblock2 game
00:06 cornernote wondering if anyone has played with mapgen stuff to make a world with sky-islands ?
00:09 cornernote anyone played cruelhessian ?
00:09 cornernote https://code.google.com/p/cruelhessian/
00:10 cornernote its like an old game called soldat
00:10 cornernote but open source.. looks cool
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00:10 cornernote oh, oh... and whats this project all about?  freeminer.org  ???
00:10 ShadowNinja cornernote: The "indev" mapgen has floatlands (sky-islands).
00:11 cornernote is MT changing name, community split, or something ?
00:11 ShadowNinja And with the LuaManualMapVoxelManipulator you can make very fast Lua mapgen mods. (Far less than one second per block/chunk)
00:11 newbie|2 friendly fork
00:12 cornernote i saw that, yeah it looks like an awesome way to mass manipulate
00:12 ShadowNinja cornernote: Freeminer is a fork by proller and xyz.  It basically just merges all the pull requests without much review.
00:13 cornernote I see... so its kind of a "how minetest might be in 6 months"  type of thing
00:13 cornernote we shouldn't start renaming out mods to "Xxx for Freeminer" just yet then =)
00:13 ShadowNinja Well, it has a lot of extra features, but it also has lots of bugs and memory leaks.
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00:14 cornernote i played with the luacontroller in mesecons too, that was lots of fun
00:14 cornernote created a rock paper scissors lizard spock game, with very very few nodes
00:16 ShadowNinja Yep, I started a big LuaC project, but a certain bug is biting me. (#85 IIRC)
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00:17 paramat cornernote, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4776 https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=119708#p119708
00:19 paramat Peacock, island v0.2.2, with a few ice blocks under the snow http://i.imgur.com/8Y4R9pb.png
00:19 Peacock nice
00:20 Peacock ill test it out as soon as im done with my baccarat table
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00:23 Peacock what baccarat lacks in skill requirements it makes up for in rules lol
00:24 cornernote paramat, nice!
00:27 arsdragonfly Interesting: my buildcraft client got updated when I started it
00:27 Peacock more ads? :p
00:27 arsdragonfly Nope
00:27 Peacock paramat: still got dirt ridges?
00:27 arsdragonfly Actually the guest username is gone
00:27 Peacock lol because they're banned on most servers
00:27 arsdragonfly You type in your isername
00:27 arsdragonfly *username
00:28 Peacock expect alot eswruihsdfviun users
00:28 Peacock *a lot more
00:28 arsdragonfly The client can fetch updates from an unknown remote server
00:29 arsdragonfly But older clients are probably still flowing around on the internet ,in .apk format
00:30 arsdragonfly Which are unable to update themselves :-(
00:35 paramat Peacock, to avoid those you need a recent 0.4.9dev and the 'no mud flow' mapgen flag
00:38 paramat see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/a358c040f2d6d1fe6825121bf8ab57ceb5865cc9
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00:57 EvergreenTree Someone needs to add something where MinetestBot puts a kitten on some random person's head if the channel is quiet for long enough
01:01 * kaeza puts a squirrel on EvergreenTree's branch
01:01 EvergreenTree That squirrel is tickling me
01:02 * EvergreenTree puts that squirrel on kaeza's arm
01:09 iqualfragile https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/pull/1096#issuecomment-32568661 shitposting, gota love shitposting
01:15 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Deindent HTTPFetchRequest::HTTPFetchRequest() b11b48ec07 2014-01-16T17:14:55-08:00 http://git.io/NBzcrA
01:23 EvergreenTree I should try making an irc bot sometime
01:24 us_0gb I should try being a bot some time. I would, but Freenode won't let me take on my bot name: GbusServ.
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02:04 jnharlin how do you pronounce mese?
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02:05 BrandonReese How don't you pronounce mese?
02:05 jnharlin lol
02:05 jnharlin it is just hard when trying to explain to someone verbally
02:06 jnharlin I want to say mee see
02:06 BrandonReese I used to call it "messy" but now I pronounce it more like mee-see
02:06 jnharlin or messy
02:06 jnharlin it could be may see
02:06 jnharlin thinking about mesa
02:06 BrandonReese that's possible
02:06 jnharlin so that might be may see con
02:07 us_0gb Celeron said it is pronounced as meese.
02:07 jnharlin ah....meese con?
02:07 jnharlin so mesecon is pronounced meese con
02:07 BrandonReese so just one syllable? like reese?
02:08 us_0gb BrandonReese: Yes, one syllable that rhymes with reese.
02:25 Miner_48er what ios minetest clients are there?
02:25 jnharlin minebuilder requires ios 6
02:26 Miner_48er what ios minetest clients are there that can connect to minetest servers?
02:28 Exio4 Minetestbot!
02:28 Exio4 MinetestBot!
02:28 MinetestBot Exio4!
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02:40 Miner_48er ShadowNinja I think the buildcraft client is causing the repeat sign problem. A player's client loaded on 0.4.8 and did that near a sign. I was able to ask about the client.
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03:08 OWNSyouAll Anyone want to help me build minetest on windows?
03:08 Peacock finally got my baccarat table working right lol not looking forward to poker though
03:19 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8002708992/hEEB39E11/
03:19 * VanessaE peeks in
03:19 kaeza hi V
03:20 VanessaE hi
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03:20 iqualfragile VanessaE!
03:20 VanessaE hey
03:20 iqualfragile your pipeworks do not support your moretrees leaves
03:20 iqualfragile plzfix
03:21 VanessaE already fixed in git.
03:21 VanessaE plzupd8
03:21 VanessaE :P
03:21 iqualfragile uh, k, Sokomine looks like its fixed
03:22 iqualfragile why is sapier never online…
03:23 kaeza :I
03:23 VanessaE because he went to bed like 4 hours ago
03:23 iqualfragile weaklings
03:23 VanessaE or at least signed off IRC...it's late where he is
03:23 iqualfragile neither sokomine nor i are sleeping, sleep is for the weak
03:23 VanessaE nothing wrong with being weak.
03:26 iqualfragile but… <insert random masterrace joke>
03:28 VanessaE you'll need to update moretrees also, btw.
03:28 VanessaE but for a different reason.
03:29 iqualfragile whichone? and when did you commit?
03:30 VanessaE eh, just some tweaks to saplings node defs, earlier today
03:30 VanessaE its for a proposed change to mesecons
03:44 jnharlin can someone help me out with digiline lcd? I can't get something so simple as digiline_send("1", "hello") to display on an LCD that has "1" as it's channel number. I have an LUAController with a blinky_plant attached to generate events for code scanning
04:01 cornernote hey VanessaE
04:01 VanessaE hey cn
04:01 cornernote whats been happening ?
04:01 VanessaE oh about as much as usual :)
04:02 VanessaE same noise, different people :)
04:02 cornernote not true at all... i see so many engine improvements
04:02 cornernote =)
04:02 VanessaE that's true
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04:03 cornernote hey OldCoder
04:03 OldCoder cornernote, Hi!\
04:03 OldCoder Hi! *
04:03 VanessaE I still do the same things I always do - code mods, do textures, play a bit, pester the shit out of the devs
04:04 VanessaE and keep OldCoder's kitten pile stocked ;)
04:04 cornernote seems now there are more devs to pester, which is awesome
04:04 VanessaE yes
04:04 OldCoder
04:04 VanessaE though there's been some infighting lately.
04:04 cornernote back when i was modding it was like scratching around to find anyone who could do something in C
04:05 cornernote had to learn the god-forsaken language myself to do some things lol
04:06 kaeza you can find lots of people that do stuff in C; finding people that do good stuff in C++ is kinda hard :P
04:06 kaeza (sorry, I'm a bit vocal about how much C++ sucks :P)
04:08 VanessaE even that's not so hard - the hard part is finding someone who is willing to wait however long it takes for what they coded to be accepted, meanwhile rebasing it dozens of times in the process :P
04:09 VanessaE besides, as for C++ sucking...there are much worse languages the engine could be written in :)
04:10 cornernote *cough* java *cough*
04:10 VanessaE actually I had something far worse in mind :)
04:12 cornernote oh... how did the wikipedia page go ?  never got re-added or allowed to stay ?
04:12 VanessaE it never got re-added.
04:12 cornernote bummer
04:12 VanessaE as far as I'm aware, it was deleted and the idea pretty much died that day
04:12 cornernote but freeminer can stay? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeminer
04:12 VanessaE I think rubenwardy's page still exists though?
04:12 VanessaE that's not the same thing
04:13 cornernote nom thats not the game
04:13 cornernote ok
04:13 cornernote lol
04:13 cornernote sorry
04:14 VanessaE looks like multiple attempts have been made since then actually
04:16 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/User:Rubenwardy/Minetest
04:16 VanessaE there it is.
04:16 VanessaE old page.
04:17 cornernote i think it needed more external sources or something to become a wikipedia page
04:17 VanessaE yes
04:18 cornernote is it possible to get Minetest onto Steam?
04:18 VanessaE that's a good question
04:18 cornernote thats something i thought would give a huge boost to the community population
04:18 VanessaE I don't know if anyone's ever approached that yet
04:19 Peacock dont steam use drm?
04:19 Peacock i can see that causing peasant revolt
04:19 cornernote they have a "free-to-play" section
04:19 cornernote is that not suitable ?
04:20 VanessaE might be
04:20 cornernote http://www.steampowered.com/steamworks/FAQ.php
04:20 Peacock well, free cost isn't everything to advocates :P though GL
04:21 cornernote http://steamcommunity.com/workshop​/about/?appid=765&amp;section=faq
04:21 cornernote the acceptance seems to be based on community feedback
04:21 VanessaE wonder what it costs?
04:22 cornernote as Minetest already has a community, that should give some numbers to start
04:22 VanessaE I don't have Steam installed here so I can't see any details beyond what's shown on the website
04:22 cornernote There's also a one-time $100 submission fee per Steam account.
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04:23 Peacock though, are you sure the servers can handle the numbers?
04:23 paramat Peacock ;) https://github.com/paramat/island/commit/​78ddd9ce0f277e22a4034f10299b2b4fa00faac7
04:23 cornernote haha
04:23 cornernote thats a good point
04:23 cornernote and is the game ready for real commercial usage ?
04:23 Peacock paramat: nice :D
04:23 Peacock is that the final draft or should i hold off a little longer?
04:24 Peacock cornernote any mention of the word commercial will probably be detrimental to your idea :P
04:25 Peacock people nearly shit a brick when the first android port asked for 3$ lol
04:25 cornernote first android port of what ?
04:25 cornernote Minetest ?
04:26 cornernote OMG, minetest works on android
04:26 VanessaE no
04:26 VanessaE it's not real minetest
04:26 VanessaE it's illegal
04:26 cornernote http://dev.minetest.net/Android ?
04:26 Peacock lol its still real, its just in violation
04:27 VanessaE it's a port of minetest by some third party in china
04:27 VanessaE who ignored our license, didn't publish the code
04:27 cornernote ahhh, i see
04:27 VanessaE then when he did, be published 2-month old code that doesn't compile, and didn't bother to link to it from anywhere that matters
04:27 VanessaE and stripped it WAY down
04:27 VanessaE and linked HDX into it
04:27 VanessaE and didn't publish links to THAt either
04:28 cornernote minetest is GPL ?
04:28 VanessaE LGPL
04:28 cornernote when i said "commercial", i ment in terms of usage, not in terms of payment
04:29 cornernote like if i goto Steam, and get a game thats free-to-play, i expect commercial quality
04:29 cornernote i dont care if it cost $0
04:29 VanessaE oh, I didn't see the commercial bit, I was referring to the android stuff specifically
04:29 Peacock the funny part is the community started working on an official port, though when they managed to take down the illegal apps that effort seem to evaporate
04:29 paramat Pea, it's tested and ready for the server, as long as the noise params match
04:29 cornernote Peacock, thats sad.. :(
04:29 cornernote so does this work -- http://dev.minetest.net/Android
04:29 cornernote ?
04:30 Peacock cornernote indeed, depriving android users of any working version of MT, "for their freedom" lol
04:30 Peacock paramat well i didn't change any of my noise values so everything should line up :-)
04:31 paramat you can make the distance to snowy high ground less by lowering param SNOWY
04:31 VanessaE cornernote: there IS a Freeminer Android build but it's experimental and not exactly well-supported yet
04:31 cornernote so in theory, if some person wants to do it the right way, they can make the app, make the source available, then sell it on the app store, right ?
04:31 VanessaE but no official Minetest build yet
04:31 paramat heh and ice spawns in trees ... ice storm
04:31 VanessaE cornernote: sure as long as the license is adhered to properly yeah
04:31 VanessaE no problem there
04:32 Peacock tree popsicles :P
04:32 cornernote which (in basic terms) is to keep the source code available
04:32 VanessaE heh
04:32 Peacock cool :)
04:32 Peacock cornernote yeah "in theory", though if you try to sell it, people will find reasons to crack it :P
04:32 cornernote crack ?
04:32 cornernote get it for free ?
04:32 VanessaE cornernote: and publish whatever changes you made to that source, make sure what you publish compiles into the same client binary that you distribute, and that you link to the sources from your main project page on the Play Store
04:33 VanessaE that should about do it.
04:33 paramat i used default:snow in the end because it somehow avoids the 'dark nodenox' bug
04:33 cornernote its more to save the person having to crack it... ppl would pay $2 for that
04:33 VanessaE default:snow isn't a nodebox :P
04:33 Peacock well one of our moderators cracked the first android port to show up (by unlocking the premium features in the free version) :P
04:34 Peacock oups, unpaste 'to show up' lol
04:34 Peacock default:snow or snowblock?
04:34 Peacock i thought snow was the nbox
04:35 VanessaE default:snow is a block of snow :P
04:35 VanessaE no it ain't
04:35 Peacock then whats snowblock? lol
04:35 Peacock like a 4d cube of snow? :P
04:36 paramat its a 'levelled' nodebox
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04:36 VanessaE default:snowblock
04:36 VanessaE huh.
04:36 VanessaE oh well
04:37 VanessaE anyway, it's not a nodebox, it's a whole cube
04:37 VanessaE default:snow is a craftitem.
04:37 Peacock that levelled stuff sounds alot like finite liquids
04:37 VanessaE (which lacks an HDX texture?  huh, I have to fix that...)
04:37 VanessaE Peacock: essentially, it is.
04:37 VanessaE it's finite water in solid form.
04:38 Peacock good lord
04:38 paramat 'levelled' doesnt need finite liquids enabled
04:38 Peacock well i can always change that bit at least :)
04:38 VanessaE paramat: no, but it's used by it.
04:38 paramat yeah
04:39 Peacock yeah lol its like a way of sneaking in finite even when you have it off :P
04:42 paramat so if you want to thicken up default:snow edit 'leveled = 6' (huh one l?)
04:42 VanessaE paramat: answer your /msgs
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04:42 paramat oh sorry :)
04:49 VanessaE bbl
04:50 paramat Peacock, island mod is dedicated to the doge server, any mapgen change you want let me know
04:50 Peacock okies :-) ill update the server tonight after shutdown :)
04:50 paramat im starting a new mod to work on improving the 'archipelago' type mapgen
05:10 Peacock im kinda curious what you'll add/change :P
05:16 ShadowNinja Peacock: Seems someone impersonated me on your server, can you remove the account?  (If I don't guess the password first ;-))
05:16 Peacock how long ago>
05:16 Peacock *?
05:17 Peacock and so far i've had fake pilzadam, fake jojoa, and a fake me lol
05:17 Peacock (course geoip gives it away sooner lol)
05:18 ShadowNinja IDK, it just denys access because of an incorrect password.
05:18 Peacock loading the players folder now, could take a few minutes
05:19 ShadowNinja Or /setpassword and pm me.
05:19 Miner_48er could just /clearpassword
05:19 Peacock /clearpassword ShadowNinja?
05:20 ShadowNinja Wait, does your server require a password?
05:20 Peacock nope, but the person might have set one
05:21 ShadowNinja Hmmm, timeout.
05:23 Peacock hm, thunar locked up and took minetest with it lol
05:23 Peacock restarted
05:24 Peacock im guessing the guy didn't set a password
05:26 ShadowNinja No, he didn't.  But my client died before I could set a password.  PM.
05:27 ShadowNinja Er, if I can get that buffer open...
05:28 Peacock ill have to restart soon anyhow, was in the middle of rewriting blackjack tables when MT crashed lol and saved that bit in a half-finished state
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05:50 paramat Pea, island has a ZYX-order mapgen loop, a LVM habit, i realised it can be ZXY-order and i can process column by column as in old landup: stone compressed/stretched but surface materials/plants shifted intact
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05:52 paramat at the moment island shreds the terrain, lots of grass, flowers and surface materials are lost
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06:32 madprogrammi i was wondering if anybody here has experience compiling on arm, namely beaglebone
06:32 madprogrammi :)
06:34 sfan5 madprogrammi: just tell us your problem and we may be able to help
06:35 madprogrammi sfan5: i'm sorry... i dont exactly remember it. abput 35% or so through, it had an error, something about not being able to fund a .o file
06:35 madprogrammi find*
06:36 sfan5 hm
06:37 sfan5 cmake generates makefiles that will create the .o file before trying to use it, your problem seems weird
06:37 madprogrammi i was using make-j1
06:38 madprogrammi make -j1* ... im typing on an ipod :s
06:39 ShadowNinja Well, the full error text would be helpful...
06:43 madprogrammi im sorry... comr to to of it, asking now wasnt a good idea
06:44 madprogrammi i think crazygunger72 also had a problem of rhe same nature
06:44 madprogrammi ginger*
06:46 madprogrammi well tomorrow (later i guess)  ill see if i can reproduce the error
06:47 madprogrammi sorry forx
06:47 madprogrammi coming unprepared
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12:02 john_minetest Hey!!!
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12:04 VanessaE hi
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12:39 sfan5 hi everyone
12:39 VanessaE hi
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12:57 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:57 VanessaE hi
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13:06 PilzAdam github looks different....
13:07 VanessaE different?
13:07 VanessaE looks like the same dusty old github to me :P
13:08 kahrl did you add github.com 31.192.117.132 to your /etc/hosts?
13:08 sfan5 lol
13:08 kahrl (the other way round)
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14:15 john_minetest Just finished my cake my mother sent me a few days ago.
14:16 john_minetest And now I found a piece of paper in the letter box saying "Your package has arrived." It contains a new cake :3
14:16 sfan5 caaaaakeeeee <3
14:16 sfan5 I can haz cake
14:16 sfan5 pls
14:16 john_minetest It is with chocolate.
14:17 sfan5 awesome, now  give it to me
14:17 john_minetest Delicious, moist dough with chocolate bits in it.
14:18 john_minetest sfan5: Unfornately (or fortunately), sending things over the internet doesn't work yet.
14:18 sfan5 put them in a package ad
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14:18 sfan5 and send them to me*
14:20 VanessaE but...I thought the cake was a lie?
14:20 VanessaE you mean the cake being a lie was a lie?
14:20 VanessaE my whole world view is shattered.
14:22 * sfan5 puts a kitten on VanessaE's head
14:22 sfan5 that'll help ypu
14:22 sfan5 you*
14:22 * VanessaE puts it in OldCoder's pile
14:25 sfan5 how many kittens does OldCoder have by now?
14:26 VanessaE dunno
14:26 VanessaE must be thousands :)
14:26 sfan5 /usr/bin/kittengen --infinite --only=cute > /home/oldcolder/
14:27 VanessaE when did Neko update the generator to take unix command line opts? :)
14:28 sfan5 yesterday
14:28 VanessaE heh
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14:50 OldCoder sfan5, they are cycled out periodically
14:50 sfan5 :-(
14:50 OldCoder to kitten kare facilities
14:50 sfan5 :-)
14:50 OldCoder where they receive the finest in food and comfortable pillows
14:54 VanessaE aww :)
14:54 VanessaE OldCoder: well your pile is overflowing again :)
14:54 VanessaE also you need to change the litter
14:54 VanessaE WHEW! *waves hand*
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15:05 OldCoder VanessaE, very well
15:07 john_minetest Where can I find kittengen?
15:08 VanessaE in nekogloop's ppa :)
15:10 john_minetest AUR is much cooler than ppa
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15:31 sfan5 john_minetest: in /usr/bin
15:32 john_minetest sfan5: I got no debian-based distro
15:32 sfan5 but #minetest has
15:32 sfan5 /usr/bin/kittengen --infinite --only=cute > /home/john_minetest/
15:33 john_minetest OHMAIGAWD! INFINITE KITTENZ!
15:33 john_minetest INFINITE _CUTE_ KITTENS!
15:33 john_minetest And /home/john_minetest/ doesn't exist
15:33 john_minetest My username is "john"
15:34 sfan5 it does, every user nick has a directory in /home/
15:34 sfan5 s/user//
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15:35 john_minetest Yeah.
15:35 john_minetest But the only user on my PC is me, and I am called "john"
15:36 john_minetest sudo su
15:36 john_minetest *******
15:36 john_minetest Okay, now you can just put it to /root
15:36 VanessaE sudo su???
15:36 VanessaE sudo -i
15:36 john_minetest sudo su is written much faster
15:37 john_minetest because for - you have to press a key that is far away.
15:37 VanessaE and is redundant.
15:37 VanessaE "sudo su" -> "super user do substitute user"
15:38 VanessaE whoever keeps teaching people to 'sudo su' needs to be horsewhipped.
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15:42 john_minetest When I write sudo su I can use the shell as superuser and don't have to login as root
15:42 john_minetest Useful when doing some heavy changes to the system but needing a browser that can show pictures and not wanting to start X as root
15:42 VanessaE ...
15:43 VanessaE sudo -i --> <enter password>  --> root shell prompt.
15:43 VanessaE you're doing it wrong :P
15:43 john_minetest sudo su --> <enter password>  --> root shell prompt.
15:44 VanessaE ok ok let's just drop it.  emacs!  vi!  EMACS!  VI!   *NANO!!*
15:44 VanessaE :)
15:47 john_minetest I use nano for CLI and gedit for GUI.
15:47 john_minetest And butterflies when I haven't got a keyboard at hand.
15:47 VanessaE heh
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16:02 PilzAdam isnt it obvious?
16:02 PilzAdam its VIM
16:03 john_minetest I bet you could make emacs emulate VIM. And I bet that already exists.
16:04 sfan5 !g emulate vim in emacs
16:04 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil
16:05 PilzAdam I bet you could code emacs in vim
16:06 PilzAdam and as we all know coding is superior to simulating
16:06 PilzAdam *emulating
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16:09 sfan5 !c 2 ** 14
16:09 MinetestBot 16384
16:09 sfan5 !c bin(2014)
16:09 MinetestBot '0b11111011110'
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16:22 VanessaE bbl
16:22 MinetestBot VanessaE: <PilzAdam> Add the stats mod to your server!
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16:24 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: <Jordach> bbl - food (ignore if i'm actually here)
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16:24 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: <Jordach> TechLauncher down, (got a severe warning from the launcher log)
16:24 MinetestBot ValueError: list.remove(x): x not in list (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/tell.py", line 55, in checktell)
16:24 EvergreenTree o/
16:24 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: <Jordach> Sphax 64x = 40+ fps :)
16:24 sfan5 watwat
16:24 sfan5 wat
16:24 sfan5 wat
16:24 sfan5 wat
16:24 sfan5 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
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16:24 EvergreenTree lol
16:24 Jordach EvergreenTree, lol
16:24 MinetestBot Jordach: <sfan5> the only Objective-C we need for an iOS port is already in Irrlicht, and I already wrote the rest we need
16:24 EvergreenTree Jordach, lay off the !tell
16:24 sfan5 MinetestBot is having seizures and ShadowBot kicks the only person who can help
16:25 Jordach [16:19:43] <MinetestBot> sfan5: <module 'tell' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/tell.py'> (version: 2014-01-17 16:19:24)
16:25 EvergreenTree woohoo
16:25 Jordach i can has deop of said bot
16:25 sfan5 Jordach: I reloaded it, but it shouldn't send everything agaib
16:25 sfan5 again*
16:26 PilzAdam sfan5, your bot is working so well
16:26 sfan5 yeah it is
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16:27 Jordach ...http://www.mediafire.com/download/u283​l6332l2qmsw/SpecialHumanTemplate.blend
16:28 EvergreenTree ^ gen 6 model
16:30 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/l0umcfC.png <- super simple bones
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16:31 Jordach still not finished D:
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16:34 john_minetest Ooooh... I just realized that a theory in physics can't work: Schoedinger's cat. Cats have several lives (depending on which culture you are in).
16:35 john_minetest When a cat has n lives it has to be killed n-1 times so you can be sure that the experiment works as it should.
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16:42 kahrl for (( i = 1; i < n; ++i )); do cat & sleep 1; kill %%; done
16:43 Jordach s/ kill %%; / panic(); /
16:43 sfan5 Jordach: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
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17:13 kaeza greetings
17:13 john_minetest nubwrwar
17:13 Jordach wubwubwub
17:13 john_minetest lol
17:13 john_minetest qzvqzvqzv
17:13 kaeza fapfapfap
17:14 john_minetest Shifting hand positions on keyboad is fun
17:14 john_minetest Minetest, right hand left shifted is "nubetest"
17:14 Jordach dworvak? how the fuck do germans do that :P
17:14 john_minetest dworvak?
17:15 john_minetest Lol, a good german keyboard layout is "neo"
17:16 john_minetest The Neo layout is an optimized German keyboard layout developed in 2004 by the Neo Users Group,[22] supporting nearly all Latin-based alphabets, including the International Phonetic Alphabet,[23] the Vietnamese language and some African languages.
17:16 john_minetest [Citation needed]
17:17 john_minetest [...]making it suited for many target groups such as programmers, mathematicians, scientists or LaTeX authors.[citation needed]
17:17 john_minetest There it is
17:17 Jordach LaTeX
17:17 Jordach plol
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17:49 rubenwardy I'm now #7!  https://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?us​ername=&amp;show_group=-1&amp;sort_by=num_​posts&amp;sort_dir=DESC&amp;search=Search
17:50 rubenwardy *#8
17:50 rubenwardy I did 9-1, and then 8-1 accidentally.
17:51 rubenwardy Hi all
17:51 rubenwardy Time to open the nodebox editor's source...
17:52 PilzAdam rubenwardy, #8? you must be new to this forum :-p
17:52 rubenwardy :P
17:53 rubenwardy You're newer than me
17:53 rubenwardy xD
18:00 PilzAdam quote of the day: "need a team of teenagers from 13 to 17" – pedobear
18:03 kaeza ha
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18:08 Peacock one thing that drives me nuts about mobile players is they're constantly connecting/disconnecting, probably due to android turning off wifi on screen off
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18:11 john_minetest I am somewhere around 100
18:11 * rubenwardy starting writing a compiler today, using opcodes and 16 bit word size
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18:11 rubenwardy Simulated compiler
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18:12 rubenwardy Just runs assembly like commands in c++
18:13 Peacock anyone ever coded a game craps?
18:13 rubenwardy Huh?
18:13 kaeza yes, it was crap
18:13 Peacock it looks like it will be a pain yeah lol
18:14 Peacock but i've done two card games already and need some variety
18:14 Peacock before tackling poker at least
18:14 kaeza try, txintxon (or however you spell that, aka "Chinchon" or "Conga")
18:14 kaeza -,
18:14 Peacock is that code or the name of a game?
18:14 kaeza :D
18:15 kaeza http://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/Chinch%C3%B3n_(card_game)
18:15 Peacock ah card game
18:15 Peacock (ninjad) lol
18:16 Peacock hm, can you play that against the computer, or do you need other players (+2) ?
18:16 kaeza up to 4 players (more is basically unplayable with a single deck)
18:17 Peacock hm, yeah i could make a casino game out of that
18:18 john_minetest WHY are there such people as the guy I am writing a game with? I say: "Git is nice, let's try it.", He wants to use assembla. Finally he gets me to use assembla and then he wants to use something else...
18:19 Peacock lol well if you read the -dev chat/logs it should come as no surprise :P
18:19 Peacock (re enet, tcp,) :p
18:20 Peacock heh, i think im gonna have to rig a connection timeout, like max 1 player join per five minutes... too many at same time connecting lags the game
18:20 john_minetest Ahrrrg, now he complains about the UI...
18:21 Peacock i say find him and kill him, and dispose of the witnesses
18:21 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8323
18:21 sfan5 !title
18:21 MinetestBot sfan5: Forum message — Minetest Forums
18:21 sfan5 damnit
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18:21 sfan5 anyway:
18:21 sfan5 >Minetest Forums → Offtopic → need a team of teenagers from 13 to 17
18:21 sfan5 wat
18:21 sfan5 why would you want to find them in the minetest forum?
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18:54 rubenwardy Are there any 3d games written in Assembler / Assembly
18:56 kaeza probably some old as ass ones
18:58 specing rubenwardy: most 3D games are partly written in assembly
18:58 specing that part is usually less than 1% and it is in the engine
18:58 rubenwardy I know, but I meant wholely
18:58 specing no
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19:02 kaeza http://pastebin.com/QVJw577B
19:03 rubenwardy Yay!
19:03 rubenwardy Made a file dialog for NBE
19:03 kaeza :O
19:04 rubenwardy No file browser, just entering file path and format.
19:04 rubenwardy *browsing
19:04 rubenwardy And I added a file parser factory
19:04 kaeza doesn't Irrlicht come with some built-in file dialog?
19:05 rubenwardy It's only for loading, or for saving IIRC
19:05 rubenwardy I can always add a [...] button for file browsing in the future
19:06 kaeza ah I see
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19:14 john_minetest I am desperate.
19:14 VanessaE why?
19:14 john_minetest This guy isn't able to do anything with a PC
19:14 john_minetest He doesn't understand git properly.
19:14 VanessaE tell him to crawl back into his cave :)
19:15 john_minetest He wants a GUI to do stuff for him. He is complaining because his IDE doesn't support everything as he wants it.
19:15 Jordach MSVC?
19:15 john_minetest monodevelop. But he used MSVC before.
19:16 john_minetest And he refuses to read terms of use and privacy policy when registering to random services.
19:16 john_minetest It isn't easy to focus on reading and understanding those terms but they are essential. They could just say anything.
19:17 kaeza who reads them anyway?
19:17 * kaeza flies away
19:17 VanessaE that is one of many reasons I avoid proprietary software
19:18 VanessaE I will NOT have someone else trying to dictate terms to me if I can avoid it.
19:18 VanessaE (sadly, it's difficult to avoid these days)
19:18 Jordach ...bitcoin mining...
19:18 kaeza inb4 Section 87, paragraph 52, "all your soul are belong to satan"
19:20 kahrl rubenwardy: I don't know about any 3d games, but rollercoaster tycoon is supposedly 99% assembly
19:20 rubenwardy wow
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19:24 PilzAdam kaeza, where do I sign up?
19:29 kaeza PilzAdam, here: http://bit.ly/17rwA0n
19:30 john_minetest VanessaE: I love it when I download a piece of software and the license header says "GPL" or "LGPL" or "zlib". I can just click continue.
19:30 VanessaE heh
19:32 sfan5 !title
19:32 MinetestBot sfan5: Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up - YouTube
19:33 john_minetest using bitly or tinyurl links is only unsuspicious when asking for donations.
19:34 sfan5 you mean suspicious
19:37 kaeza http://5z8.info/ip-stealer_a​9k3sn_fake-gmail-login-page
19:37 john_minetest kaeza: First: The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
19:37 kaeza :<
19:37 john_minetest Second: I haven't been rickroll'd because of that AND because tor doesn't use flash
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19:37 * sfan5 puts a cat on john_minetest's computer
19:39 SirDigby you monster!
19:48 john_minetest Wow, thanks. Now the cat purrs and distracts me from my over-serious buissiness plan I am making: "Rising the aviability of 24/7 redundant mesh network nodes for increased traffic load balancing."
19:48 PilzAdam kaeza, NOT THIS TIME!
19:48 john_minetest Not only that I have learned 13375p34k, now I can also use long sentences that noboby, including me, understands.
19:48 john_minetest Because double-handshake protocols play an increasing role in our globalized community and we have to put efforts in raising the standards.
19:48 john_minetest ^ Put that into any paper and it will become popular.
19:48 john_minetest Buzzspeak ftw.
19:49 rubenwardy Nodebox editor update | 0.6.1, file dialog | https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=126233#p126233
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20:36 anadon Hey, I cannot get cmake to find libvorbis on arch linux.  How would I fix this.  And yes, it is installed
20:36 Jordach anadon, libvorbis-dev for compiling
20:38 anadon Jordach: Fixed that -- now sqlite3 is not found.
20:38 anadon sqlite3 does not have a dev package
20:39 sfan5 you do not need sqlite3
20:39 sfan5 minetest ships with it
20:39 anadon ok
20:40 anadon odd why it was having that issue.  Thanks guys!
20:40 anadon it *appears* to be fixed.
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20:41 anadon sfan5: you're a core dev, right?
20:41 sfan5 yes
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20:42 anadon I have a large code clean-up for src/client.cpp.  Should I bother with a pull request?
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20:42 anadon It may be superfluous, may not.
20:43 sfan5 just pull-request
20:43 anadon ok
20:43 sfan5 that way the other core devs will see it
20:43 anadon I'll finish local testing that add the request.
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21:09 iqualfragile how to disable fire?
21:09 BrandonReese delete the fire folder from minetest_game/mods/
21:09 iqualfragile lame
21:10 Calinou disable_fire = true
21:10 PilzAdam disable_fire=true
21:10 Calinou or am I dreaming
21:10 iqualfragile in minetest.conf?
21:10 john_minetest iqualfragile: sudo rm -Rf / and you will never see fire anymore.
21:10 iqualfragile or world.mt
21:10 PilzAdam minetest.conf
21:10 iqualfragile john_minetest: i am the oposite of stupid
21:10 iqualfragile kthxbye
21:11 john_minetest iqualfragile: You said that simply deleting the fire folder would be boring. Well, sudo rm -Rf / isn't boring. A lot of commandline stuff rushing by.
21:11 john_minetest Sometimes.
21:11 john_minetest But when you want to do cool CLI stuff, do "cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -C"
21:11 john_minetest so matrix
21:11 john_minetest much commandline
21:11 john_minetest very color
21:11 john_minetest wow
21:13 john_minetest And if you are sick of commandline output you can simply do "cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | tail"
21:14 sfan5 john_minetest: tried 'cmatrix -ab' yet?
21:17 john_minetest sfan5: Not installed
21:18 sfan5 apt-get pls
21:18 john_minetest sudo pacman -S cmatrix
21:19 john_minetest hah, nice.
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21:29 Peacock ugh, finally turned on strict protocol checking, these mobile users were driving me nuts with their shitteh connections
21:31 ShadowNinja Peacock: That blocks stable clients on dev servers and vice-versa.
21:33 Peacock well in my case protocol v 22 means people cant fuck up my card tables and mobile users cant sign in, PC users can still update their MT
21:34 Jordach Peacock, you playing poker or something
21:35 Peacock naw i rigged a bunch of casino games but i need client's escape button to call field.quit otherwise card games get frozen
21:35 Peacock protocol 21 was set a month before fieldquit was tied to escape
21:36 Peacock but its principally the mobile players driving me nuts with their shitty connections and proxies/ip spoofing
21:36 Jordach Peacock, everyone wins
21:37 Jordach except the buildcrap users
21:37 Peacock dunno, i started logging a whole bunch of shit this morning, and quickly realized alot of people were appearing to be from dozens of different countries lol
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21:38 Peacock and alot of IPs having dozens of names tied to it lol
21:39 Jordach Peacock, we need our own subgame, with blackjack and hookers
21:39 Peacock i got blackjack :P and baccarat and slot machines (missing sluts), working on craps now
21:39 Jordach make this into a fucking game
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21:39 Jordach (oh, and add in some sort of currency, maybe gold)
21:39 Peacock well if there are prostitutes than it will be a fucking game
21:40 Peacock i gots the currency and shops taken care of, missing bank and repo
21:41 Jordach Peacock, you want me to make some models?
21:42 Peacock no no meshes, i already got 1(meshes)/4(game) mbs of them
21:42 Peacock in fact im gonna turn the boat into a nodebox and landrushs' showarea into an oversized node lol
21:42 Jordach plol, ad for relationship abuse, and i'm not in a relationship
21:43 Peacock trying to keep things ultralight so people can signin before bedtime lol
21:43 Peacock even at 4mbs people complain it can take up to ten minutes to load, you'd think i was hosting my server from somalia lol
21:45 * Jordach cheers
21:45 Jordach i made a new feature to my model; Shape Key boobs; you can now control the size of them or disable them completely
21:46 Jordach which means i just have to update one model rather than two
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22:06 cornernote hey
22:07 Peacock howdy
22:08 Peacock didn't i warn you about the steam thing? :P i knew onpon would bitch about proprietary steam :P
22:09 Peacock (and others about commercialism in general ) :p
22:10 PilzAdam hello cornernote
22:10 VanessaE hey cornernote
22:12 VanessaE yay! my survival is in the #2 slot in the server list :)
22:12 VanessaE I musta finally did something right :P
22:12 VanessaE (now will someone tell me what that was?)
22:13 PilzAdam sending fake-data to servers.minetest.net
22:13 cornernote Peacock, yeah, lol... i just wanted to see what the community thought, and if anyone had considered it
22:13 VanessaE hah
22:13 Jordach evening cornernote
22:13 VanessaE steam
22:13 cornernote personally i dont think its ready, but i want to plant the idea because in 12 months it may be ready
22:13 VanessaE steam's not a bad idea, but I dunno if we can "handle" it..
22:13 PilzAdam cornernote, we already had this idea coming up for a few times
22:14 cornernote hey Jordach
22:14 Jordach cornernote, i've been screwing around with blender
22:14 cornernote PilzAdam, ahh ok, i wasnt sure if it had or not
22:14 Peacock who's sending fake data to servers.minetest?
22:14 cornernote was the feedback mostly the same last time ?
22:14 PilzAdam Peacock, the top 5 servers?
22:14 Jordach cornernote, http://imgur.com/a/jgn4N
22:14 Jordach variable male -> female model
22:14 VanessaE I think we're gonna need one *big* server (e.g. some massive game running on big iron that can handle thousands of players...and NOT freeminer :P ) before we do that
22:15 PilzAdam s/massive game/Nodetopia/
22:15 cornernote Jordach, nice... i havent really played since the 3d models.. i'll have to have a play and see if i can make something
22:15 VanessaE naw
22:15 Jordach s/Nodetopia/Vanessa_game
22:15 VanessaE people don't want ultra simple, PilzAdam
22:15 VanessaE nor do they necessarily want my game
22:15 PilzAdam yes they do
22:15 Peacock i have started to doubt bots :P alot of if discrepancies in ips/locations/names
22:15 VanessaE but something in between
22:15 PilzAdam they just dont know it yet
22:16 VanessaE then again people seem to like Nostalgia, so idk
22:16 * Jordach wonders if PilzAdam works for Apple
22:16 Peacock lol
22:17 cornernote hey, i noticed a server issue when i get a blackout or power failure, i might post of the forums if there is no immediate fix...
22:17 VanessaE the worst thing, though, about building with a nearly-exclusively-cubical world (as in, not even slabs and stairs) is there's basically nothing you can use to furnish a house with.
22:17 cornernote basically the envsomthing.txt file is empty
22:17 cornernote and the game wont start
22:17 VanessaE you can't e.g. build a couch out of cubes unless you want it to be ~3x larger than it shoul dbe.
22:17 cornernote i have to populate it with the 2 ini settings
22:17 VanessaE should be*
22:17 PilzAdam cornernote, which Minetest version have you experinced this with?
22:18 Peacock seems the vast majority of games have either too much crap, or not enough
22:18 cornernote i was on 0.4.7
22:18 VanessaE Peacock: Nostalgia is definitely in the latter category, but I can't add to it without violating the spirit of that game
22:18 cornernote probably should update =)
22:18 cornernote but its been an issue since 0.4.3
22:19 Peacock i try to keep a green policy on my server, whatever shit i add to it. i try to remove as much lol
22:19 Peacock or i think that's more of a native thing according to the wife
22:19 PilzAdam cornernote, I fixed that in 0.4.8
22:19 proller VanessaE, your server at top because all my off ;)
22:20 cornernote ok, sweet.. thanks i'll update
22:20 PilzAdam proller, why dont you report to servers.freeminer.net?
22:20 Peacock proller and i blocked android users :P
22:20 Peacock and guests
22:20 proller PilzAdam, because now it compatible?
22:20 VanessaE proller: heh, well looking at the userlist of the current top one, the only reasin it's at the top is over half the users are Guestxxxx or "Admin" or so :)
22:20 Peacock if i let all those mofos through i could have 40 players but they wouldn't do anything lol
22:20 PilzAdam proller, what?
22:21 proller new enet version will report to servers.freeminer.org
22:21 VanessaE I let android users in, but they can't generally play my servers because android devices don't tend to have enough RAM
22:21 VanessaE (except Nostalgia, that seems to work for everyone)
22:21 Peacock like i said, they can't /wont do anything
22:22 Peacock though i dont care if users build or not, but mobile users have trouble staying connected, and the constant joining what was lagging out my server
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22:22 proller 10-20% of androud users - normal players
22:23 Peacock pretty much the same stats with preandroid
22:23 cornernote so many updates in such a short time... well done to the devs who have taken so much effort to bring core up to speed
22:23 cornernote from this - http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.8_.E2.86.92_0.4.9
22:24 cornernote and thats just the changes in the log, i can imagine all the non-logged changes, discussions, etc, etc
22:25 Peacock yeah though more people are reporting the random transport bug which was around since your time :P
22:26 PilzAdam its always funny if people start talking about bugs that "everyone knows", except the devs
22:26 PilzAdam s/if/when/
22:26 Peacock i discussed it at length with sapier, just not with you :P
22:27 cornernote i never experienced it
22:27 Peacock i dont even know *what* you dev lol
22:27 cornernote u just get randomly teleported somewhere ?
22:27 Peacock off the map yeah
22:27 Peacock like a couple of hundred thousand nodes away :P sometimes e (infinity?) on one of the axes
22:27 cornernote like past 30k ?
22:27 cornernote haha
22:33 Jordach nobody even notices https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=126069#p126069
22:33 Jordach plol, i get a 69
22:33 Jordach my bank card has 69 on it
22:36 PilzAdam "PilzAdam is a champion sysadmin"
22:36 * paramat uses voxelmanips to control the size of shape key boobs
22:36 PilzAdam TIl
22:38 Jordach PilzAdam, wrong
22:38 Jordach only people with Arch get that
22:40 Peacock but people with arch are busy fixing their install :P
22:40 PilzAdam where is xyz's picture about arch and the other distros?
22:42 Jordach paramat, my model is really easy to work with
22:42 Peacock windows: few versions, many users, linux: many versions, few users :p
22:42 Peacock you'd think it would be the other way round
22:43 PilzAdam there it is: http://i.imgur.com/LdcdUrG.png
22:44 paramat J, im liking your designs more :)
22:48 Peacock lol good cartoon
22:48 Peacock sums up arch pretty well
22:49 Peacock i used arch for 2-3 years and in that time i found out the french language doesn't have enough swear words (and we got 10x the swears the english got lol)
22:49 specing whats wrong, libc broken?
22:49 specing :D
22:49 specing I was loling hard at that one
22:49 Peacock lol actually did have glibc break my install hard :P
22:51 * specing <- on Gentoo
22:51 specing I was in the archarm channel at that time (since I use it to bootstrap Gentoo installs on ARMs)
22:51 specing Was a fun thing to watch
22:53 PilzAdam bye
22:53 ShadowBot Goodbye PilzAdam!
22:53 specing bye
22:53 specing No ShadowBot goodbye for me :(
22:54 specing Or... maybe it knows I ain't going anywhere :D
22:54 Peacock shadowbot doesn't get efficient german sex from you :P
22:57 Peacock (most people here treat the bot like a girl)
23:02 Jordach paramat, at some point i will be properly animating them
23:02 Peacock good, my vegas server needs strippers
23:06 Jordach paramat, i've noticed over time, the more and more i look at my models, the less odd they become
23:10 paramat aha, i just have strange tastes ;)
23:10 Peacock like people who put ketchup on pizza? :P
23:10 paramat that sounds tasty
23:12 Jordach when i finished my gen5 - even i went dafuq is this?
23:12 paramat Peacock, all my attempts at redefining default:snow resulted in a darkened nodebox, only using it unchanged does it have a bright texture
23:12 Peacock thats allright i can always switch it for snowblocks for my personal use
23:13 paramat i suspect because it is aliased to a hardcoded mapgen "snow"
23:17 Peacock i'll dispatch a klingon boarding party to kill the aliases, and take the ship *evil grin*
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23:34 Peacock why hasn't this been fixed yet? ive been hearing about it for 3 days: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/​blob/master/builtin/mainmenu.lua#L562
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23:48 Peacock i think there's also some map corruption going on, in some of the oldest parts of my map minerals:dilithium_ore became minerals:dilithium_o
23:49 twoelk no more 0.4.7 on Canadian Doge?
23:49 VanessaE looks to be 0.4.8, twoelk.
23:49 Peacock lemme check
23:50 VanessaE "0.4.8-dev, LV-426, v6"
23:50 Peacock why are nodenames being changed though?
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23:50 VanessaE oh is that yours, Peacock ?
23:50 Peacock yeah
23:50 VanessaE oh ok
23:51 Peacock what was that map issue you were having?
23:51 Peacock something to do with ignores
23:51 VanessaE who, me?
23:52 Peacock yeah i thought you mentionned having some map issue a week or two ago
23:52 Peacock (i think in the dev log)
23:52 VanessaE I had some mapblocks that I am not sure if they were new or old, air had been replaced with ignore, made the mapblocks look invisible, like they wouldn't load.  had to worldedit the ignore back to air to fix it.
23:53 VanessaE the rest of the land was there
23:53 VanessaE just air got replaced with ignore.
23:53 Peacock weird, me parts of the nodename are being lopped off
23:53 Peacock twoelk, found it :-) i might switch back to 0.4.7 before more of my map becomes corrupt
23:54 VanessaE the top layer of the map, where the shoulda been dirt, was also missing from some of those blocks, but the landscape was there nonetheless.
23:54 Peacock more weird shit, do they have the slightest idea what might cause it?
23:54 VanessaE a bit of liquid landscaping and a bit of worldediting and it was all fixed.
23:54 VanessaE nope.
23:55 twoelk are only default nodes effected?
23:56 Peacock naw for me it was minerals:dilithium_ore that became minerals:dilithium_o, i have no abm that acts on those to change them
23:56 VanessaE afaik yeah, only air, dirt and dirt with grass were affected in that particular case.  other nodes such as wild grass, ferns, etc were present after the restoration, and they were unaffected once they became visible.
23:57 * Jordach sits here playing that other game without any issues DB wise
23:57 Peacock you mean freeminer?
23:57 Jordach nope.avi
23:57 Jordach i actually opened my wallet for once
23:57 Peacock MC?
23:57 * Jordach nods sagely
23:57 Peacock i opened mine for Blockscape and Space Engineers
23:58 * kaeza is playing multiplayer notepad
23:58 Peacock you and the cat? :P
23:58 kaeza a.k.a. IRC :P
23:58 VanessaE bbl
23:58 Peacock seriously, the more weird shit happens, the more i think it's some sort of weird memory corruption (not that i know much how that works or happens)
23:59 Jordach sounds like you're running out of stacks
23:59 Peacock this computer is exactly a year old :P MT is supposed to run on "old" hardware
23:59 Peacock if i can't run it properly with 17 mods, there's  problem :P

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