Time Nick Message 00:00 hmmmm yes 00:00 * Sokomine grabs some nice bright homedecor lights and puts them everywhere on peacocks server 00:01 us_0gb I wish my Minetest logs would quit getting corrupted. I've resorted to leaving my ssh portal open just to catch the error messages. But I feel vulnerable doing that. 00:03 * us_0gb questions where his ring went, which he just noticed isn't on his finger any more 00:09 NakedFury its from a meme 00:09 NakedFury I think a dog meme 00:10 us_0gb NakedFury: Ah. No wonder I don't know it. I don't really follow memes. 00:10 NakedFury same here but had already seen a similar comment elsewhere 00:10 NakedFury I dont get memes 00:12 us_0gb I usually don't either. THe vast majority of them are either unfunny or irritating. 00:14 SirDigby Happens 00:14 SirDigby Your just going up 00:15 SirDigby memes are made up shit from the minds of 12 year-olds 00:16 jnharlin is there a way to tell if a particular world has jungles? before I go off and try to find one? 00:16 SirDigby I apologize for the curse word. 00:16 us_0gb True, true. 00:17 us_0gb jnharlin: Check the world's meta file for the "jungles" flag. 00:17 jnharlin thanks..and if it doesnt, can I add it to the existing world? 00:18 us_0gb jnharlin: Officially, no, unofficially, yes, I've done it. 00:18 jnharlin lol...unofficially? So, how do I unofficially add it then? simply add the flag? 00:19 us_0gb jnharlin: I think you have to add the flag and a couple other lines to the file. 00:19 us_0gb If you don't add the other lines, the flag doesn't work, I think I recall. 00:20 jnharlin hmmm...i am using the vanilla minetest, loving it, and have a server setup with me and my daughter. We are needing cotton and the only way I see to get cotton is to find some jungle grass get a cotton seed and plant it. 00:20 us_0gb jnharlin: Add the flag to your minetest.conf, create a new world, and copy the new world's meta file to the old world while Minetest is not running. 00:23 jnharlin i do not see a way to create a world with or without jungles...so how does that get selected...and my current world does not have that flag :( 00:23 jnharlin is it just "jungles" 00:23 jnharlin V6 00:25 paramat the wow, such nodes server is Peacock / mauvebic's and uses my island mod for mapgen 00:25 us_0gb jnharlin: In minetest.conf, edit the "mg_flags" value and add ", jungles" to the end. 00:32 us_0gb My new world has a nice island in the middle. 00:32 us_0gb It's a great place to spawn. 00:34 us_0gb I might actually import the island into my old world as a spawn area. 00:43 Exio4 kaeza: http://www.rock.com.ar/letras/6/6521.shtml 00:45 Megaf It's beautiful mesecons and pipeworks working together 00:46 Megaf One can build a totally automated stone tile factory 00:46 Megaf it gets cobble from lava and water, and fuel from cactus 00:46 Megaf auto sufficient 00:49 xyz https://github.com/xyzz/freeminer/commit/a0b7974b01c6614ec916d2a56c1059a4c65c1844 00:49 paramat okay im submitting a new wieldhand texture https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/222#issuecomment-32139661 01:00 Megaf xyz, looks cool 01:01 ShadowNinja MessagePack. Protobuf would be better. 01:01 ShadowNinja (Or a custom compatible version) 01:02 xyz feel free to do protobuf 01:02 xyz and what's your reasoning? 01:04 ShadowNinja Protobuf uses a minimal amount of space for messages because you send keys only once. 01:06 xyz doesn't matter 01:06 xyz the difference isn't that big 01:07 Exio4 add client-side lua before switching to protobuf 01:07 Exio4 :D 01:10 xyz well, that's irritating 01:10 xyz it's 2014 already yet linux doesn't have a tool to convert part of a video to .gif animation 01:11 meldrian_fail xyz, how bout QGifer? (untested) 01:12 ShadowNinja Exio4: Or better: Have two people work on both. :-) 01:12 xyz This file is coded with "avc1" codec and contains more than 1800 frames. This codec is not supported for full-length videos yet, please cut your video or use other codec like motion JPEG or YUV4. 01:13 xyz The player failed to load the video file! 01:13 xyz meldrian_fail: ^ 01:13 Exio4 doesn't ffmpeg work there 01:14 meldrian_fail in that case, another program program like pitifi or openshot is needet to trim so you are probably right. 01:14 xyz by the way, wtf is "yuv4 video codec" 01:15 xyz well, I just want to select a part of video and convert it to .gif, I hoped it's not that hard 01:18 Exio4 xyz: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9878138/playing-a-specific-interval-of-a-video-in-mplayer-using-command-line-option + -vo 01:20 xyz but that's no problem, I've already used kdenlive to extract part of video 01:20 xyz well now qgifer accepted the file 01:20 xyz i tried to seek it and it froze 01:20 Exio4 mplayer -vo gifsomething then 01:20 Exio4 gif89a 01:22 dragutux hi 01:23 xyz cool, it seems to know about multithreading 01:24 xyz uh oh, it froze again 01:29 xyz Exio4: now how do I make it not ~2.5 in size? and I also would like proper colors 01:30 xyz also FPS is lower than source 01:30 xyz but that's okey 01:33 xyz imagemagick ate 4 gb of ram? that's fine too, I have a lot of free ram anyway 01:36 xyz uh oh so what do I do? 01:37 Exio4 the fps thingy can be fixed with :fps=XX 01:37 Exio4 it looks somehow nice here, fwiw, (the colors) 01:37 Exio4 also, the size? i don't know! 01:39 xyz yeah sure colors are fine 01:39 xyz http://i.imgur.com/68WRpvu.png 01:44 Exio4 i can't play a 1080p gif decently 01:44 Exio4 this cusk 01:44 Exio4 sucks* 01:46 Exio4 lol 01:46 Exio4 chromium ate five gbs of ram 01:46 Exio4 for playing the .gif 01:49 xyz can you send a sample? 01:49 xyz of what you've got 02:05 Exio4 the file i generated is at 20 FPS and is 473 mb 02:06 Exio4 a minute of gif is 500~ mb 02:06 Exio4 neat 02:19 Exio4 124 MB forESD 02:19 Exio4 /70 seconds 02:21 Exio4 it is funny how the ram usage goes from 2gb to 6gb that fast 02:28 Exio4 was able to reduce it to 100mb 02:30 Exio4 now it looks like shit 02:34 xyz yea 02:34 xyz I've managed to reduce it to 3 mb limit and post to /a/ 02:34 xyz challenge completed 02:35 Exio4 what did you do with it 02:35 xyz downscale to 480x270, 7 fps, export to png with ffmpeg, then `convert` to gif (8 fps), then gifsicle -O2 --colors 170 02:36 xyz it's a 13 second gif 02:36 Exio4 oh 02:36 Exio4 the resolution and FPS 02:37 Exio4 i'm using 852x480, also, 15fps 02:37 xyz it's anime so 8 fps is something my brain can accept 02:37 xyz and how long is it? 02:37 Exio4 i'm only converting 70 seconds 02:37 Exio4 but the whole episode is like 45 minutes :P 02:38 xyz did you run gifsicle on it? 02:38 Exio4 xyz: first episode of hannibal (tv serie) 02:38 Exio4 nope 02:39 xyz try it 02:39 xyz although I don't know what do you use 02:39 Exio4 took 43 seconds to download 126kb 02:40 Exio4 amazing network 02:44 Exio4 90mb 04:18 paramat Peacock, im testing a modified version of islands with snow and ice, how far out from world centre have your players generated chunks? 04:51 Peacock not very far, they seem to concentrate on 1-3 central islands lol 04:51 Peacock they use the defaults snow and ice? 04:53 Peacock (sorry for the delay, this up and down weather gave me a wicked cold/fever) 05:01 paramat oh hi ;) 05:02 paramat yeah default snow, ice. how about i put snow and ice starting 1km out? 05:04 paramat just wondering how far out players have 'seen' and generated chunks ... anyway there'll be a param for that ... 05:08 paramat wishing you health ... i'll set default start of snow biomes 1-2km out, its a noisy radial temp gradient 05:09 paramat an island 'is land', it does what it says on the tin 05:16 paramat no ... i'll make north / south cold, for a larger hot area as a strip across the world ;) toodle pip! 07:27 khonkhortisan Minetest has a common bug, mishandling a second mouse cursor. 07:28 enchilado Having a second mouse cursor is common? 07:28 khonkhortisan Mishandling an uncommon second mouse cursor is common 07:28 khonkhortisan though this program does it in an original way 07:28 khonkhortisan you can only aim the camera if you hold a button down 07:30 enchilado Ah 07:30 enchilado I thought you meant commonly encountered in Minetest, not a bug that was common across all programs 07:30 khonkhortisan It also has the more popular trap the first mouse in the window even if movement from the second mouse was detected 08:04 hoodedice So VanessaE is up at 3 am? 08:04 hoodedice wow 08:04 VanessaE yup, in fact I just got up. 08:05 hoodedice lol. And that's why you were the only American on at the time I usually connected to IRC while back in the East 08:06 VanessaE probably 08:06 hoodedice :| 08:06 VanessaE this place is a graveyard at this time of night 08:06 hoodedice Why am I awake anyway? 08:07 hoodedice I can understand. 08:07 hoodedice So you didn't switch to FM? 08:07 VanessaE nope. 08:07 hoodedice Too liberal? 08:08 VanessaE tried it, didn't work out. at the time, it was too much of a memory hog for what I had to work with 08:08 VanessaE theoretically, I could run it now, but from watching the discussions here and in -dev, I am not inclined to. 08:08 hoodedice They did optimise it, then again hogged it. 08:08 hoodedice lol what discussions? 08:09 VanessaE just general discussions across a variety of topics 08:09 hoodedice =| 08:09 VanessaE mostly networking-related 08:09 hoodedice Well I'll be crashing now. Later 08:09 VanessaE ok, cya 08:09 hoodedice Nocturnal animal 08:09 hoodedice =P 10:04 Xeprione hi 10:04 Xeprione it's me, Ragnar :D 10:04 Xeprione aka. zRokh 10:05 Xeprione im making a FREE/Libre/Open-Source game! :D Open Source beginning from 02. 03. 2014 10:16 xyz :D 10:19 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 10:19 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (221ms) 10:19 Megaf Hi all 10:47 * VanessaE peeks in 10:47 VanessaE hi 10:49 Megaf Hi there 10:50 VanessaE hey 11:21 EvergreenTree o/ 11:24 VanessaE hi 11:27 VanessaE EvergreenTree: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125506#p125506 11:27 VanessaE :) 11:27 VanessaE (namely, "* Add experimental, partial suppot for Undergrowth Modpack (not yet complete, but close).") 11:28 EvergreenTree Nice 11:29 EvergreenTree I'll be able to use the higher resolutions on my new computer 12:01 Megaf Ok, I'm stupid. I remotely logged in to my home computer via ssh and then I did # ifdown eth0 12:02 VanessaE oops! 12:03 Megaf It was like. Hm, I will do ifdown and ifup to reconfigure my network, then I did ifdown and ssh stop responding. And I was like, Duh! I'm really stupid! 12:06 proller Player with an invalid name [신원진] tried to connect 12:07 VanessaE hah. firefox segfaulted and took X with it. 12:08 VanessaE PoS. 12:09 Megaf wow 12:09 Megaf That's why I learned to run critical applications on a screen session and not in a normal terminal window 12:09 EvergreenTree funny how you can make cool 2d stuff in blender 12:09 Megaf s/why/how 12:10 EvergreenTree when it's meant as a 3d animator 12:10 EvergreenTree why? 12:10 EvergreenTree because blender is a very powerful animator 12:10 VanessaE Megaf: what's that got to do with anything? 12:10 Megaf I was just correcting myself EvergreenTree, And is sounds cool to make 2D stuff in blender 12:11 EvergreenTree oh 12:11 Megaf VanessaE: Sometime ago I would run a service in foreground on a terminal windows, then sometimes some program would make the X die, closing the terminal window and that service running on it 12:12 VanessaE I don't run any services from terminals in my normal desktop. 12:12 Megaf VanessaE: so I began to run services on screen sessions, so they would run no matter what and it will be quite easy to see theier logs and stop them 12:12 VanessaE meanwhile, that crash took down X hard enough that I had to force a reboot 12:12 Megaf my server runs on a screen session 12:12 VanessaE because when X goes, usually it takes the whole damn console subsystem with it :-/ 12:13 VanessaE no servers here. Mine are on a dedicated machine up in Canada. 12:15 Megaf mine too, but still... 12:16 Megaf yesterday I met and helped an American guy, he's going to Uruguay by bus 12:16 Megaf from Brazil 12:17 Megaf Brazil and Uruguay are not cool places to visit if you don't speak a little of Portuguese and Spanish 12:17 VanessaE I think I'll stay right where I am. 12:19 Megaf VanessaE: you could go to Europe 12:19 VanessaE why? 12:19 Megaf I've been there, lovely place 12:19 VanessaE I have no desire to leave 12:19 Megaf And they speak English there 12:19 VanessaE (and no money :P ) 12:19 VanessaE google does some cool shit with maps there too :) 12:20 VanessaE street view, if it spots a blue police box, will give you an option to go inside and look around....the Tardis. 12:20 Megaf really 12:20 Megaf ? 12:20 VanessaE https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=51.492159%2C-0.19092&spn=0.005291%2C0.013937&sll=51.492140%2C-0.193028&layer=c&cid=12502927659667388442&panoid=c9UMhWP_MWm9U0L48xEjYw&cbp=13%2C291.8%2C%2C0%2C18.86&gl=US&t=m&cbll=51.492132%2C-0.192862&z=17 12:20 VanessaE yup 12:21 VanessaE clock the double arrow 12:21 VanessaE click* 12:21 VanessaE (the << that points at the blue police box in the street view in that link there ) 12:23 Megaf so, that where the power rangers live 12:23 Megaf or work 12:23 VanessaE heh 12:23 VanessaE got that from someone on facebook the other day 12:38 Megaf Heh, I don't really use facebook 12:38 Megaf I'm an IRC and Forums guy 12:47 Megaf adorable creatures http://uk.screen.yahoo.com/7-real-life-monsters-211827239.html?vp=1 13:56 Megaf eth0 back up 14:49 Exio4 wow opensource game! zomg! 14:49 Exio4 amaze! 14:50 sfan5 hi everyone 14:51 Exio4 hi sfan5 14:51 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Exio4's head 14:51 * Exio4 rewrites sfan5 in Java 14:51 sfan5 D: 14:51 * sfan5 deletes every .java file 14:52 * Exio4 looks at sfan5 deleting himself 14:52 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Exio4 14:56 * Exio4 rewrites sfan5 in python 14:56 sfan5 well.. thats better 14:56 Exio4 ok\ 14:56 Exio4 PHP then 15:10 kaeza greetings 15:12 VanessaE greetz 15:16 VanessaE bbl 15:24 troller compiling on slowberry pi: real 178m59.769s 15:56 Exio4 proller: the rpi is mean to be the cheapest arm board you can get 15:56 Exio4 even if that means its performance is shit 16:01 proller for homeless ? 16:01 proller odroud u3 for 59$ 16:02 proller with 4 cores and 2g 16:06 Exio4 proller: 60 USD is ~two times the rpi 16:06 proller and 15+ times faster 16:06 sfan5 !g odrioid u3 16:06 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.hardkernel.com/ 16:06 Exio4 yeah 16:06 proller site now down for me, but look to cache\ 16:08 Exio4 the rpi is for other user share 16:08 Exio4 and for educationg purposes "only" 16:08 Exio4 the odroid try to be "mid-to-high-end" arm 16:08 Exio4 tries* 16:10 zsoltisawesome odroid seems resonable, i mean quad core 2bg ram is pretty good for a credit card computer 16:11 proller U smaller than credit 16:12 zsoltisawesome thats just damn mind blowing 16:12 proller now will count compile time on odroid 16:14 Exio4 yeah zsoltisawesome 16:14 zsoltisawesome hey, whats a good Linux + Desktop combination to run on a Poweredge 2650: www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2650_specs.pdf‎ 16:14 Exio4 it is amazing but 'expensive' vs the rpi 16:15 Exio4 it is like, why buy an i7 xxxK if you'll end having it at 1% most of the time and rarely get over 5% :D 16:15 zsoltisawesome ya 16:16 zsoltisawesome but, its good for cheap techies :D 16:16 proller you cant feel difference i7 vs i3 16:16 proller because i3 enough for ~anything 16:17 zsoltisawesome anyone? 16:19 zsoltisawesome how fucking hilarious: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-PowerEdge-2650-2-8Ghz-5x73GB/dp/B0011FQY1M 16:19 kaeza see also: "640K ought to be enough for anyone" 16:19 zsoltisawesome i got 4 of them for $80 16:21 sfan5 Exio4: my raspi works fine as printer server, torrent server and network fs share 16:23 specing proller: did you disable fluidic dirt? 16:23 proller mobile core i5 4cores : 4m42.736s 16:24 proller specing, do you want it ? 16:25 proller odroid x2: real 11m8.961s 16:25 Exio4 exactly sfan5 16:26 proller core i7 8cores : real 1m55.024s 16:26 Exio4 8 threads 16:26 Exio4 not cores. 16:26 Exio4 also 16:26 Exio4 "i7" doesn't say much 16:26 Exio4 it can be first gen and mobile 16:26 Exio4 or last gen and K 16:26 Exio4 or the one that haz six cores 16:27 proller 8 for OS 16:27 specing proller: LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG 16:27 Exio4 8 threads proller 16:27 proller no sense 16:27 Exio4 you have four hyperthreaded cores 16:28 proller if i disable HT i will get /2 performanse 16:28 Exio4 you won't 16:28 proller test it 16:28 Exio4 i did 16:28 proller and& 16:28 proller ? 16:28 proller in real app like ^ compiling 16:28 Exio4 yeah 16:28 Exio4 try it by yourself 16:29 Exio4 hyperthreading only duplicates the stream lines and pipelines, and lets the cpu use unused cpu cycles 16:29 proller show results 16:29 Exio4 even intel itself says the performance increase isn't 2x 16:30 Exio4 and also, 2x performance is impossible 16:30 zsoltisawesome this will trend on twitter! #9001 #itsover9000 16:30 Exio4 because multithreading overhead. 16:30 proller okay, 1.8 16:30 Exio4 cool story 16:30 Exio4 but not real 16:30 Exio4 proller: give me real benchmarks 16:31 proller sysbench ~1.8 faster 16:31 Exio4 links, please? 16:31 Exio4 also, what tests there? 16:31 proller cpu 16:32 Exio4 http://blog.stuffedcow.net/2011/08/hyperthreading-performance/ 16:32 Exio4 proller: ALU? FPU? 16:32 Exio4 http://blog.stuffedcow.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/thread-scaling.png this 16:33 Exio4 hyperthreading is good for IO-bound tasks 16:33 Exio4 in real power terms, it isn't that good 16:34 specing I think I found a big red 16:34 xyz so what's the use for RPi? 16:34 specing fireball + fire everywhere 16:34 proller specing, its top lava spring 16:34 Exio4 xyz: education purposes, learning programming with a super-cheap box, printer server / torrent server / network fs share 16:35 iqualfragile specing: i think you meant dm 16:35 proller pi unusable for any purposes 16:35 Exio4 yeah, it is unusable for watching 4k movies 16:36 Exio4 do you want me to repeat what i said since you started saying the same bullshit over and over? 16:36 zsoltisawesome proller: pi is very usable 16:36 xyz Exio4: wait, why do you need it to learn to program? 16:36 xyz I somehow managed to do that without any raspberries 16:36 iqualfragile xyz: you do not need it 16:37 Exio4 xyz: give 4000 rapis to students, or 4000 odroid 16:37 Exio4 rapis doesn't that nice 16:37 Exio4 rpis, there! 16:37 iqualfragile but usualy people do not have linux on their main computers 16:37 xyz Exio4: I don't understand 16:37 xyz Exio4: if you're giving rpis to students 16:37 xyz then they probably already own a PC 16:37 zsoltisawesome iqualfragile: NO SHIT 16:38 xyz so what is it for? 16:38 iqualfragile so if they have that rpi which has linux on it and some gpios starting to program and hardwarehacking is a lot easier 16:38 Exio4 what is the whole point of having arm boards, following what you said? 16:38 zsoltisawesome xyz: Classrom use 16:38 xyz for some hacking 16:38 iqualfragile zsoltisawesome: yes, luckily this channel is a bit off 16:38 xyz not "education" 16:38 Exio4 you can hack with 8bit PICs 16:38 zsoltisawesome iqualfragile: lol 16:38 xyz yes, you can 16:39 xyz but it's easier with a proper linux box 16:39 Exio4 the point of the rpi is having the cheapest-arm-board you can get 16:39 zsoltisawesome i still havent got an answer 16:39 Exio4 i'm not willing to pay 700 ARS for an arm box 16:39 xyz you can just write a server in python to control your lights, and it'll just work 16:39 xyz so it's the cheapiest one? 16:39 xyz hard to believe 16:39 iqualfragile Exio4: whats 700 ARS in real money? 16:39 Exio4 you can get some rough average by /10 16:40 iqualfragile xyz: it has quite a nice price-value ratio 16:40 Exio4 (/10 =~ USD) 16:40 iqualfragile no, real money 16:40 Exio4 ok 16:40 zsoltisawesome "hey, whats a good Linux + Desktop combination to run on a Poweredge 2650: www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2650_specs.pdf‎" 16:40 zsoltisawesome iqualfragile: USD is not real money? 16:40 Exio4 xyz: tell me other ARM board 16:40 Exio4 that is cheaper, less than 25USD, please 16:40 xyz Exio4: I don't know any 16:41 proller for controlling light much better to use arduino nano for 10$ 16:41 xyz I'm just saying it's hard to believe 16:41 Exio4 what is the whole point of having intel atom, celeron, sempron, or APUs 16:41 Exio4 if the people can be happy with i7 and FX 8xxx 16:42 Exio4 you get better price/performance with the high end hardware 16:42 Exio4 perf/price, there 16:43 xyz oh, I know 16:43 xyz raspberry pi has CEC 16:43 sfan5 CEC? 16:43 xyz and costs less than pulse-eight's adapter 16:43 xyz too bad it's useless because it's just so damn slow 16:43 iqualfragile sfan5: some hdmi drm i think 16:43 xyz http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=CEC 16:44 xyz drm? no 16:44 xyz hdmi drm is called hdcp 16:44 Exio4 The median improvement for HT is 25%. 16:44 Exio4 based on proller's comments it is 100% 16:44 iqualfragile was cracked recently 16:44 Exio4 nice 16:44 xyz who cares? 16:45 iqualfragile * The median improvement for HT benchmarking perfectly paralisable task is 25% 16:45 iqualfragile and thats why i buy i5s not i7s 16:45 Exio4 the rpi doesn't fit your workflow? you are free to don't use it and be like "zomg it doesnt work 4me!! 16:45 Exio4 " 16:45 xyz hm 16:45 Exio4 i would like to buy an odroid, yeah 16:46 Exio4 my budget is too limited 16:46 Exio4 what should i do 16:46 xyz why are you so aggressive? 16:46 Exio4 xyz: i'm a bit tired of the same BS all the time 16:46 xyz what BS? 16:46 xyz that people tell you RPi is slow? 16:46 xyz it is, don't you agree? 16:46 Exio4 the point of the entry-level hardware 16:46 harrison i deny it! 16:46 Exio4 it is fucking slow 16:46 Exio4 and it is also fucking cheap 16:47 xyz I still don't understand why are you so angry :( 16:47 Exio4 i still love you xyz 16:47 Exio4 where can we meet tonight? 16:47 xyz but that's gay 16:48 Exio4 >:D 16:48 Exio4 i'm still waiting for proller's source for the 100% improvement when enabling HT 16:48 xyz wait, I had a gif somewhere 16:48 iqualfragile Exio4: you need to understand: he is from the 3rd world country russia and they are scared of gays around there 16:49 proller i'm still waiting for Exio4's source for the 25% improvement when enabling HT 16:49 Exio4 i'm from argentina 16:49 Exio4 proller: i posted it 16:49 Exio4 http://blog.stuffedcow.net/2011/08/hyperthreading-performance/ 16:49 iqualfragile Exio4: i am aware of that 16:49 proller no, it not yours 16:50 iqualfragile proller: wtf? i am even suprized that it _has_ 25% improvement do you realy think it gets faster then that? 16:50 iqualfragile tip: there is no actual performance gain, just less switching active processes 16:50 iqualfragile so less performance loss 16:51 Exio4 i'm searching for official intel link 16:51 Exio4 hyperthreading is hardware assisted threading 16:51 proller stop googling, just compile minetest 2 times 16:51 Exio4 my actual cpu isn't an hyperthreaded-one 16:51 Exio4 also, are you taking the cache in account? 16:52 proller make clean; make -j8 16:52 Exio4 my cpu has six cores 16:53 xyz "there's no more performance gain, there's less performance loss" 16:53 Exio4 lol 16:53 Exio4 it is a nice idea for using unused cpu cycles 16:53 xyz Exio4: stop-being-so-gay.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/6bea9f98ffb9ec06e42d972581e7a43d/tumblr_mz6golMmpB1qzqnxxo1_r1_500.gif 16:53 Exio4 yeah 16:53 iqualfragile ah, forgot that they obviously have more registers 16:53 iqualfragile sorry 16:53 iqualfragile so: yes there is a slight improvement 16:53 Exio4 xyz: in the german language you can combine words > yeah, german is weird 17:07 xyz shit #minetest says 17:08 specing Is there anything useful I could craft from dirt? I have more than 30x 99 of it 17:08 xyz it's more fun without context! 17:10 markveidemanis Hello! 17:13 xyz fucking xbmc repo is over 1 GiB in size 17:29 Exio4 xyz: is the irony too hard to express? 17:30 xyz Exio4: no, for some people it's hard to understand :^) 17:41 iqualfragile specing: why would you have that much dirt? 17:41 iqualfragile cobble i would understand 17:41 iqualfragile but dirt? 17:42 proller on roat dirt is flowing 17:43 proller you cant make hole it dirt 17:43 proller it starts fall 17:43 proller you can build only pyramid from dirt 17:56 PilzAdam quote of the day: "how do we "on" the shaders?" 17:57 kaeza he accidentally his sentence 18:03 rubenwardy Hi all! 18:04 kaeza hey ruben 18:04 rubenwardy What cha doing? 18:06 kaeza The same thing I do every evening: try to take over the world! 18:07 rubenwardy Yaaay! 18:07 kaeza a.k.a. coding useless shite 18:08 specing iqualfragile: I have more than 2000 cobble ;D 18:09 * rubenwardy might actually play minetest for the first time in 2 months 18:10 rubenwardy not including mod testing 18:13 proller specing, did you reack 7k ? 18:14 proller you will need all your cobble soon ;) 18:27 proller wow! new fast result for pi: real 125m32.273s 18:35 specing does ItemStack(itemstring) create an empty item stack or is it created with one element in it? 18:35 specing http://dev.minetest.net/ItemStack 18:35 PilzAdam depends on itemstring 18:35 specing proller: I didn't 18:35 PilzAdam "default:dirt 5" creates a stack with 5 items 18:36 PilzAdam "default:dirt" creates a stack with 1 item 18:36 specing PilzAdam: ah ok 18:36 specing PilzAdam: Im using the itemstring returned from get drops 18:36 specing (working on making you mod less time-consuming) 18:36 specing ^ TNT 19:06 specing I cannot digest lua 19:06 specing return ItemStack("default:grass_1 "..itemstack:get_count()-(1-ret:get_count())) 19:06 specing ^ works in main repo 19:06 specing print "ejecting "..stack:get_name() 19:06 specing ^ doesen't work in my code 19:12 kahrl specing: try adding () around the arguments to print 19:26 specing Are lua tables pass by value (copy)? 19:27 markveidemanis /seen Rhy5 19:27 specing and if so, how do I pass them by reference? 19:30 sfan5 pass by ref in lua? 19:31 xyz no, they aren't copied 19:31 specing well, Im filling the table up third call deep 19:32 specing and then in the main function I get 0 elements 19:33 VanessaE hi 19:37 specing Well, the problem may be somewhere else 19:39 specing Im checkign if table[elem] == nil 19:39 specing and it fails that check, meanign *something* is in there 19:57 Megaf !seen Lukc 19:57 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen lukc around. 19:58 specing Ok, I give up 19:59 OWNSyouAll Hey the forums are 502 erroring 20:01 specing http://bpaste.net/show/MzhOaZ3HLQl5jRlAY8H9/ 20:01 specing why is #drops always 0? 20:01 VanessaE I had a feeling the forums were about to crap out - they've been slow off and on for a couple of days now 20:04 PilzAdam specing, # only counts elements with integers as index 20:04 * VanessaE panics... no forums...no forums... AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH 20:04 PilzAdam xyz, forums are down? 20:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: can you rebase the VBO branch please? 20:05 PilzAdam why? 20:06 VanessaE be...cause it doesn't apply (or didn't last time I tried) against current git? :) 20:06 VanessaE hasn't for a while now :( 20:06 PilzAdam the feature is broken and no solutions are found yet 20:08 VanessaE broken? 20:08 PilzAdam it leaks 20:08 VanessaE never leaked for me 20:09 * VanessaE shrugs 20:14 VanessaE the performance boost was worth the memory usage. 20:15 Megaf Hi VanessaE 20:15 VanessaE hi 20:15 Megaf what are you talking about? 20:15 VanessaE doesn't matter 20:15 Megaf Ok, I'm sorry 20:15 xyz PilzAdam: yes 20:15 PilzAdam Megaf, when creating an issue, please add the commit hash instead of writing "latest" 20:16 Megaf PilzAdam, Ok 20:16 specing PilzAdam: well ~ 20:16 specing PilzAdam: what do? 20:20 xyz every time something goes wrong someone "had a feeling […]" even though everything worked great! 20:23 OWNSyouAll forums look like their back up 20:24 VanessaE xyz: I did report it when I first noticed it. you seemed disinterested in the report at the time. 20:24 VanessaE glad it's back though 20:27 xyz uhh? when did you report it? did you higlight me? 20:28 VanessaE indeed I did. 20:29 VanessaE pretty sure I did anyway 20:29 xyz well then next time send me a private message 20:30 VanessaE Jan 10 2014 12:23:48 xyz: forums seem to be having problems... 20:30 xyz nice 20:30 VanessaE whereupon you advised me to "do research before reporting stuff like that". 20:31 xyz no 20:31 xyz please do research before reporting stuff like that 20:31 xyz yes, because they weren't down 20:31 xyz anyway, I'm tired of this discussion 20:31 VanessaE ... 20:31 VanessaE (when did I say they were down?) 20:36 VanessaE wtf is going on with people in this community lately? 20:36 PilzAdam a lot of long standing members seem to lose interest in it? 20:40 VanessaE I can appreciate people losing interest, but I refuse to accept people just plain being nasty. 21:46 sfan5 xyz|imag1nary: znc is still broken 22:06 ShadowNinja sfan5: 04<3 Quassel 22:06 sfan5 znc has nothing to do with irc clients (not directly) 22:06 sfan5 also this: 22:06 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125708#p125708 22:07 ShadowNinja sfan5: Yes, it's a bouncer. Quassel is a client with a seperated core, which makes it a special bouncer. 22:08 sfan5 ah, ok 22:09 khonkhortisan 05❤ 22:10 sfan5 !rainbow ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 22:10 MinetestBot 4❤4❤4❤7❤7❤7❤8❤8❤8❤3❤3❤3❤12❤12❤12❤6❤6❤6❤13❤13❤13❤4❤4❤4❤7❤7❤7❤8❤ 22:10 ShadowNinja ~heart 22:10 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 04<3 22:10 khonkhortisan ❤♡❣ 22:10 ShadowNinja :-) 22:10 khonkhortisan 🂱 22:11 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 22:11 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 22:14 OWNSyouAll I keep getting bad allocation when trying to use texture packs with alot of mods installed any work around for this? 22:14 ShadowBot http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html 22:14 VanessaE add RAM 22:15 VanessaE or close some programs 22:15 VanessaE or add some swap 22:15 VanessaE (page file, whatever your OS calls it) 22:15 OWNSyouAll I have 6gb free 22:15 VanessaE use a 64bit OS then 22:15 OWNSyouAll I'am 22:15 VanessaE build from sources then? 22:16 OWNSyouAll Is the windows build only 32bit? 22:16 VanessaE idk 22:16 khonkhortisan there's a point where adding swap stops helping with freezing 22:16 VanessaE it might be 22:16 VanessaE whose build are you using? 22:17 OWNSyouAll minetest.net 22:17 OWNSyouAll https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/download/0.4.9/minetest-0.4.9.zip 22:17 VanessaE try fess's build then, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6745 22:18 VanessaE it's a little newer than the minetest.net build, though it isn't quite at latest git 22:18 VanessaE that one, http://yadi.sk/d/Fj1irx0CFN9zQ 22:25 OWNSyouAll Ok that build used up all my RAM so it appears that one works 22:26 VanessaE good deal 22:27 VanessaE if all your RAM isn't being used, it's being wasted. 22:27 VanessaE (seriously) 22:27 VanessaE RAm must always be used - if not for programs, then for cache or buffers 22:27 VanessaE unused RAM is wasted RAM 22:34 OWNSyouAll Ram looks like it's peaking at 11 GB GPU is only at 582MB though 22:40 VanessaE what texture pack are you using? 22:41 OWNSyouAll GPU is up to 1.4GB i'm using HDX 22:41 VanessaE step down to the 256px size then. That size only takes ~4.2 GB when using my survival server :-) 22:41 VanessaE (at least in Linux) 22:49 khonkhortisan typing 1234567890 four times on the numpad results in 90909090333 22:50 OWNSyouAll khonkhortisan, how high are you right now? 22:50 khonkhortisan I'm never high 22:51 khonkhortisan but keycode.cpp doesn't give me a hint as to why 23:02 khonkhortisan GUITextInputMenu isn't getting 1 or 7 down because they're caught beforehand as home and end, but it does get keyup for those. 23:04 Hirato time to go SDL2 ? 23:05 Hirato I'd expect them to be caught as home/end/whatever if numlock is off 23:11 MinetestBot GIT: khonkhortisan commited to minetest/minetest: Allow vertical axis particle rotation constraint 2b1eff7725 2014-01-13T14:34:56-08:00 http://git.io/rssAKQ 23:11 khonkhortisan what? 23:13 ShadowNinja Hopefully the old non-table API dies quickly. :-) 23:14 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Now update the dev wiki. :-) 23:16 khonkhortisan particles aren't even on there 23:17 kahrl not particularly good... 23:21 VanessaE hi John 23:25 fwilson hi john 23:28 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add formspec table 8966c16ad2 2014-01-13T15:11:08-08:00 http://git.io/eins2Q 23:39 khonkhortisan I'm not MLP or MOU 23:45 khonkhortisan is duplicated when previewing a new wiki page - and it doesn't word wrap 23:53 khonkhortisan I'm not my little pony nor my own uncle