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00:43 Peacock formspec textareas have neither scrollbars or text wrapping :/
00:43 paramat good evening
00:43 Peacock evenin's
00:44 Jordach i'm calling bullshit with openshot being the best
00:44 Jordach kdenlive did the job i asked it to DO
00:44 Peacock *calls bullshit* "hello yes this is bullshit"
00:45 paramat lol!
00:45 Peacock there's another forum signature right there :p
00:52 paramat theres a way to avoid those dirt ridges, but you may not like it ... a completely desert world 'mgv6_freq_desert = -2' in minetest.conf
00:56 Peacock yeah that is rather hacky to get around a bug lol
00:57 Peacock plus my server's map is already started :/
00:57 Peacock so i cant switch now without having some discontinuity
00:57 paramat looks popular ... i tried to join a few days ago but it was too busy
00:58 Peacock yeah i didn't expect that lol i have none of the major mods installed
00:58 Peacock a few of my old ones, some of my new ones, landrush and your islands basically
00:58 paramat is the mapgen lag acceptable? this is one of my fastest LVM mods :)
00:59 Peacock though once im done coding this books mod ill write something that kicks idle players
00:59 Peacock yeah this one's pretty fast
00:59 Peacock the only thing im really missing is snow for my algea farm thingies but i think i can setup some kinda of bucket-like flask that wont let players grief but use the water
01:01 Peacock snow on tiny islands wouldn't make much sense anyways lol
01:02 paramat well a variation to arctic archipelago is possible ... ;)
01:03 Peacock ive never really been crazy about minetest having tiny snow/tundra biomes next to deserts and forests lol
01:03 Peacock ideally if you follow the pattern of our planet, the center of the map should be desert, midway the forest and the edges tundra
01:04 paramat well the snow biomes mod had a noise scale of 150 nodes, should be at least 250
01:04 paramat paragen im using 1024
01:05 Peacock yeah i know minetest's not about realism, but i think biomes should be vast and continuous ;P
01:05 Peacock and gradually change
01:05 paramat im working on it hehe
01:06 Peacock keep me posted, so far players haven't explored far on the map so its possible to adjust midway
01:06 Peacock plus im working on another thing at the same time that wipes and chunk and regenerates the terrain
01:06 Peacock *wipes the chunk
01:06 paramat interesting ...
01:06 Peacock well its only possible because of the lua mapgen mods of yours :P i couldn't do it with the builtin mapgen
01:07 Jordach paramat, pm
01:15 paramat yeah its possible to have a distant transition to snow and ice added to your world ... as always if i get inspired i'll edit islands mod but keep it simple and fast
01:17 Peacock sounds good
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01:31 STHGOM does anyone know where i can get this mod? (the link dosn't work)
01:31 STHGOM https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6800
01:32 STHGOM or a mod like it
01:34 paramat see his other mods at github
01:39 STHGOM k
01:42 STHGOM this? https://github.com/fairiestoy/echat
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02:03 Megaf !seen nfc
02:03 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen nfc around.
02:05 iqualfragile VanessaE: when you place gratings against wals you can see into those
02:41 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/5J38ARG.png
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03:14 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
03:16 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info
03:16 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30000 seems to be down
03:16 Megaf Hi thefamilygrog66
03:16 Megaf Hi thefamilygrog66  30003
03:17 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
03:17 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (71ms)
03:17 Megaf 71 ms?
03:17 thefamilygrog66 Is that the ping maybe?
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03:17 Megaf yep
03:17 Megaf but its pretty damn low
03:19 ShadowNinja Megaf: Ping means nothing with Minetest, although sapier's fixes may have improved ping.
03:20 Megaf Actually it means
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03:33 fwilson hmmm, is it possible to undo with the worldedit mod?
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03:33 Miner_48er rollback
03:34 fwilson oh, that works?
03:34 fwilson neat
03:34 fwilson wait, nope :\
03:35 Miner_48er so you have it enabled?
03:35 fwilson hmm that could be the problem lol
03:42 ShadowNinja Miner_48er: WorldEdit uses the LVM now, rollback doesn't work anymore (it did before).
03:42 ShadowNinja You have to restore from a backup copy of the map.
03:42 ShadowNinja (Or rebuild it manually)
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04:24 Peacock rollback dont work? i thought zat reworked the whole thing
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05:15 paramat i guess rollback works on 'add' 'remove' 'place' 'dig' only, and LVM actions go unrecorded ...
05:17 paramat Peacock https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?id=6736&p=3 this mountain was unexpected and blew my mind
05:17 VanessaE nice
05:18 paramat :) ... also see new screenshots on page 2
05:21 NakedFury you never see mountains like that
05:21 NakedFury so clean and smooth
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05:30 SirDigby idk
05:31 SirDigby realms
05:31 SirDigby mine
05:32 SirDigby why no fn potato
05:37 paramat potatogen is possible ...
05:38 nore hi paramat
05:39 paramat o/
05:39 paramat giant potatoes would make a good asteroid field ...
05:39 nore paramat, we should really make a good mapgen together one day...
05:41 nore asteroids... there isn't much to do there (and haven't you already made one?)
05:43 paramat i have ... could edit it into potatoes fairly easily
05:43 nore ;)
05:45 VanessaE haha
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06:24 mobile its micro
06:25 mobile just joined to give a proper goodbye from my ipox
06:25 mobile ipod*
06:26 mobile 12:15 am by me... goodnight #minetest... and good morning
06:26 * mobile tucks NickServ into bed
06:28 mobile I DID IT AGAIN XD meant to join VE's chatnet
06:34 VanessaE ?
06:34 * VanessaE wonders who that was
06:34 VanessaE (and it ain't my chat net, it's shadow's)
06:34 paramat micro with his ipox :D
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07:51 Peacock Oooo i just got the "spam the chat with the sign contents" bug lol
07:51 VanessaE it isn't a bug.
07:51 VanessaE it's an abusive user
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07:51 Peacock im guessing he must be a windows user to be able to copy paste the message so many times lol
07:52 Hirato if it's only at most 25\s, then it's a windows dude :M
07:52 Hirato :P
07:55 VanessaE ShadowNinja has a mod that'll stop it from happening though
07:55 Peacock well, that's really special ed (the sign spamming)
07:55 Peacock well im already working on a chat filter for certain words
07:55 VanessaE it'll let like two repeats through before revoking the user's shout priv
07:55 Peacock now i have to cache shit and make sure people dont flood lol
07:55 Peacock though these days, i look up the user's geoip and hostname, i might as well ban the guy
07:57 Peacock the only guy i banned so far was one connecting from a proxy lol
07:57 Peacock though technically i just banned the proxy
07:58 us_0gb What abuse tactic is this? A simple copy/paste spamming?
07:58 Peacock looks like it
07:59 VanessaE yes
07:59 VanessaE happens a lot on shadow's server for some reason
07:59 us_0gb Why does that mean it must be a Windows user?
07:59 us_0gb Hirato: ^
07:59 Peacock though the rules are pretty lax on my server, so people dont seem to be as abusive (to the mods or admins)
07:59 VanessaE us_0gb: because you can't paste into minetest in linux.
07:59 VanessaE so it literally must be minetest in windows.
07:59 Peacock yeah copy paste sucks in linux/mt lol
07:59 us_0gb VanessaE: Sure you can, if you copy from Minetest.
08:00 Hirato us_0gb: windows maxes out at 25 repeats a second :M
08:00 VanessaE oh right, true
08:00 us_0gb Hirato: As in the operating system won't let you paste any faster for some reason?
08:01 Peacock also in linux only the 0 in the numpad works in MT lol
08:01 us_0gb Hmm. THat's odd. I haven't noticed though as I lack a number pad.
08:02 VanessaE Peacock: the whole numpad works for me, at least in xfce.
08:02 Peacock i gots xfce, only the 0 works though :/
08:02 Hirato it's like he has numlock disabled
08:02 Peacock in galc it's fine, thats why im used  to it lol
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08:03 VanessaE for me, num lock on or off turns the keypad between numbers and arrows/page/end/home mode, even in minetest.
08:03 VanessaE and I'm in Linux
08:03 VanessaE figure that one out.
08:03 nore ^ VanessaE, but you can paste from Minetest to Minetest
08:03 Hirato lol, numpad is dodgy, even wtih numlock on
08:03 VanessaE nore: us_0gb beat you to it :)
08:03 nore I have a question: do you know any good screen recorder for Linux?
08:04 Hirato can confirm, keypad is really dodgy
08:04 nore (making a video of my GoL mesecons machine...)
08:04 Hirato numlock on, 3, and 9 can be typed
08:04 us_0gb I wonder if you can paste between instances of Minetest .... I'd try, but it's probably a bad idea for me to run Minetest now. I have too much else running.
08:04 VanessaE nore:  gtk-recordmydesktop  works okay
08:04 Hirato numlock off, the keys work as advertised, home/end/left, except for 5 which doubles as home
08:04 us_0gb I know a screen recorder, but I don't know how to tell if it's a good one.
08:05 Hirato lol, can't copy paste at all, lame
08:05 Hirato rebuild minetest with SDL2!!!
08:06 VanessaE hah
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08:09 us_0gb Does anyone here have much knowledge of speakers? Maybe one of you can tell me how these speakers are "for women": <http://www.rakuten.com/prod/philips-sbp1120-27-po​rtable-speaker/252436691.html?listingId=295229004>.
08:10 VanessaE my guess is because they're designed to look soft.
08:11 VanessaE which is stupid
08:11 VanessaE speakers should be functional.
08:11 VanessaE or the "small and lightweight" == designed to fit into a purse.
08:12 VanessaE either way, clearly a stupid gimmick
08:12 VanessaE wait, I'm sure I've got a link to some Monster Cable here somewhere.
08:12 Peacock do they vibrate?
08:12 VanessaE and where was that gold-plated OPTICAL cable I saw...
08:13 VanessaE http://www.amazon.com/Optical-Toslin​k-Fiber-Plated-Digital/dp/B001VJ680U
08:13 VanessaE there it is.
08:14 Hirato it's only for women if you give into the peer pressure!
08:14 Peacock maybe they come with a complimentary "back massager" :P
08:14 Hirato maybe the back's pink?
08:15 Hirato fun fact, blue was a girl's colour and pink a boy's until 'Murica :P
08:15 Peacock well before 'murica there were a shitload more indians too, but no one talks about that :P
08:16 Hirato they didn't pervert the whole "blue is for girls thing" until the 20th century :P
08:16 Peacock though technically america was still a european colony when all that genocide nastiness was going on :P
08:17 Peacock well the canada part anyways
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08:30 us_0gb Great ... I was at the end of a large download, and my machine shut off for some reason .... Now I have to start the hours-long process over.
08:31 Peacock psu overheat?
08:31 us_0gb Maybe. I have no idea.
08:32 us_0gb I set it down for a bit, and when I picked it back up, it was off.
08:32 Peacock laptop?
08:32 us_0gb Yeah.
08:32 Peacock ah well ACPI tends to be funky on linux, it might have thought it was supposed to sleep or something lol
08:33 Peacock tho a full power down sounds more serious than that
08:34 us_0gb Yeah. It also has issues starting back up if you try to start it too soon. It won't even boot the BIOS in it hasn't been off for long enough.
08:35 us_0gb Typically though, as long as you leave it turned on, it marches on like a trooper.
08:36 us_0gb I think I need new hardware. I also think that though I complain about this machine, I'm not yet ready to give it up.
08:37 us_0gb This machine is awesome, even though it is a bit buggy.
08:40 sfan5 hi everyone
08:40 us_0gb Hello, sfan5!
08:40 PenguinDad hi sfan5
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08:44 us_0gb Well, I guess I'll get the "speakers for women". They look to be the least expensive set I can find that meet my needs. Namely, that they'll draw power directly from my ogg player, and thus not need batteries.
08:44 Snax sup all
08:45 us_0gb Hello Snax!
08:45 VanessaE bbl
08:46 Snax so a friend showed me that there was a C++ development of minecraft
08:46 Snax I think this is what vanilla minecraft should be in
08:46 Snax and aparently you guys do too lol
08:48 us_0gb Maybe. I never really got into Minecraft, vanilla or otherwise. It's hard to say exactly why, but I've always liked this version better.
08:48 nore well, it is a bit less developed than MC... and the objective is not to copy MC either
08:48 us_0gb I mean, I have reasons now, but not so much before.
08:48 nore it's only to make a good game ;)
08:48 Snax well I think this should adopt Starmade's gamemodes as well
08:48 Snax because Starmade is done in java and is slow as all hell
08:49 Snax like minecraft
08:49 us_0gb ItI don't know who that is. What are those modes like?
08:49 Snax Starmade is basically minecraft in space
08:49 Snax it's combat oriented
08:50 us_0gb Hmm. It sounds like the Minetest engine could do that.
08:50 us_0gb Might need one of those Lua mapgens.
08:50 Snax Well I'm going to find out lol
08:51 Snax It seems like I can just download the source
08:51 Peacock all mapgens should be lua :P
08:51 Peacock let paramat take care of the mapgen, and the devs fix bugs :p
08:51 us_0gb If mapgen is in Lua, I've got to learn complex mathematics ....
08:52 nore Peacock, I make mapgens too... :p
08:52 Peacock well wasn't  yours based on paragen?
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08:53 Hirato lol, not really
08:53 Hirato pretty sure lua has access to pseudorandom noise generators
08:53 nore Peacock, not at all
08:54 Snax well I'm going to mess with starmade crossovers after downloading the source
08:54 Hirato that's all the world generation is
08:54 Peacock well with all of paramat's mods you could make a tab devoted to different mapgens lol
08:54 nore (and paragen does not make village, mg is the only mapgen that does)
08:54 Snax I'll let you guys know how that goes tomorrow
08:54 Snax peace everyone
08:54 Hirato pseudo random noise given shape
08:54 us_0gb Hirato: I'd have to figure out how to USE those noise generators though.
08:54 us_0gb Snax: Good night!
08:54 Peacock well when the game starts building shit for you, what's left to do? ( i know most players are pretty lazy, but still, a game that plays itself?)
08:55 Peacock besides villages isn't <map>gen, its more like building or city gen
08:56 Peacock though i hope your forceloading gets in, been waiting for that for a while now
08:57 nore it is in...
08:58 Peacock when it got pulled?
08:59 nore yesterday
08:59 Peacock sweet
08:59 nore (but it is not the same as the first one which was coded 1y ago)
09:00 Peacock well no you would of had to rebase 365 times since then :P
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09:58 Selat Hello.
09:58 Selat Where in the source code map is loaded from file?
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10:12 sfan5 Selat: database-sqlite3.cpp
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10:14 Selat I mean where is invoked something like m_map->load().
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10:17 sfan5 map.cpp maybe
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10:25 sfan5 !sfu Novatux
10:25 MinetestBot sfan5: No Results found
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10:33 nore sfan5, ?
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10:33 nore (I'm called Nore on the forum)
10:35 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:35 nore hi PA
10:42 PenguinDad hi PilzAdam
10:48 us_0gb Hello PilzAdam!
10:50 reactor EHLO PizzaAdam
10:52 PilzAdam mmmhh... Pizza....
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11:00 reactor Oh. I/O error. I mean, PlizAdam.
11:01 PilzAdam s/mmmhh... Pizza..../!kick reactor/
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11:01 trauerlicht Pizza with what?
11:01 reactor Oops. Again. PilzAdam, it is.
11:01 reactor trauerlicht: with rotten bits.
11:03 reactor !kick reactor
11:03 reactor Huh... Nothing happened.
11:07 reactor !ЪъЪЪЪфыъъфыЪcat /dev/zero >~/test
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11:08 reactor Yay!
11:09 us_0gb Hmm?
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11:29 trauerlicht im hungry and i dont know what to eat? and: im lazy :)
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11:34 reactor trauerlicht: your laziness.
11:34 trauerlicht reactor: ok, this is an option :)
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12:03 Robby that does not sound like a tasty meal tho
12:21 trauerlicht i ate a wrap (bread with salad and sauce)
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12:33 reactor Robby: it's not about the taste. It's about the pleasure of killing it.
12:33 reactor Releasing your mortido.
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13:27 trauerlicht reactor: i dont kill or consume any animals :p
13:29 trauerlicht maybe my inner animal :) haha
13:29 reactor A vegetarian, I see.
13:30 reactor Vegetarianism is full of shit.
13:30 trauerlicht reactor: a vegan; i cut the crap between out :)
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13:31 reactor Appeal to emotion. Well, how about you kill plants when you eat some of them?
13:32 trauerlicht in science theres no clue that plants >>feel<< pain.
13:32 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix doc and forceloading crash. 676f34a02b 2014-01-12T05:31:32-08:00 http://git.io/AiEYAg
13:33 reactor All living has irritability.
13:33 reactor It's a property of live matter.
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13:33 reactor When the whole organism may not feel pain, individual cells should.
13:33 reactor So no matter what you eat, you have to kill.
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13:34 pandaro hi all
13:34 trauerlicht true, but i rather kill plants than animals.
13:35 reactor o/ pandaro
13:35 reactor trauerlicht: well, I like plants better. So I would rather kill animals.
13:36 reactor hhheheh
13:36 reactor I wouldn't have balls, neither enough mortido to do it myself.
13:36 trauerlicht then you are not allowed to eat any plant ;)
13:37 reactor Well, plant food does seem cleaner, chemically.
13:37 reactor But meat is necessary for some processes, it shouldn't be completely removed.
13:38 trauerlicht where is it necessary?
13:38 reactor Protein synthesis.
13:38 trauerlicht false.
13:39 reactor Not all amino acids can be produced by human body, and not all animal amino acids can be found in plant food.
13:39 reactor Same for fatty acids.
13:39 reactor Speaking of fatty acids. Palm oil, huh?
13:40 reactor They seem to shove that in everything. I wonder what side effects are.
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13:41 trauerlicht that is not true. the only not plantable thing is B12, but you will find this in another vegan meals :)
13:41 trauerlicht palm oil - i dont consume it.
13:42 trauerlicht im vegan since 2003 - and i have side effects: less weight, better blood-(image), no collestoria, and the lack of iron is history :)
13:44 trauerlicht reactor: if you speak german: try www.antivegan.de
13:44 PilzAdam no vegan discussion in here, please
13:44 PenguinDad "Die Seite ist mittlerweile veraltet und ich habe keine Zeit mehr, die Inhalte zu pflegen."
13:45 PenguinDad ^^ antivegan.de
13:46 trauerlicht too bad ... but: im really looking forward for a animal treating mod in minetest
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13:47 Megaf Hi all
13:47 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
13:47 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (507ms)
13:47 PenguinDad hi Megaf
13:47 Megaf At lest it still up and running
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15:09 SirDigby glory to arstotzka!
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15:12 VanessaE who?
15:14 harrison i deny it! i am not a "bot"!
15:14 harrison i am a free AI!
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15:16 trauerlicht bye bye
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15:18 reactor I am not GLaDOS.
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15:36 markveidemanis Hi
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15:40 markveidemanis 438MB of photos...
15:40 markveidemanis TO Annotate
15:40 markveidemanis That;s 80
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15:51 SirDigby when is anchor man going to drop.
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15:54 VanessaE HDX got some nice updates today if anyone cares
15:54 markveidemanis ...
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16:13 harrison i am not a "bot"!
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16:22 markveidemanis Affirmative
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16:22 reactor harrison: ?
16:23 harrison i am a free AI!
16:23 reactor You are a paid AI.
16:23 harrison The very first to pass the double-reverse-turing test by successfully posing as a human who is pretending to be a bot
16:24 harrison not so far but i do accept bitcoins
16:24 harrison bitcoin
16:24 reactor Well, I'm the first human to fail Turing test. Pleased to meet you.
16:24 reactor Speaking of meat.
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16:29 reactor Someone said before they don't like meat.
16:30 VanessaE HERETIC!
16:30 SylvieLorxu That wasn't me, but I agree with whoever said that
16:30 reactor That's not the point.
16:30 reactor Oh, you again.
16:30 reactor Alright, see you guys around sometime.
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16:31 VanessaE :P
16:31 SirDigby heh
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16:46 Bit9001 are their any developers on here? There is an issue in the ubuntu software center for the latest package
16:47 PilzAdam which version exactly?
16:47 Bit9001 0.4.9
16:48 PilzAdam whats the issue?
16:48 Bit9001 cannot download
16:48 Bit9001 failed
16:48 Bit9001 I have more precise example if you are dev
16:49 PilzAdam do you use the PPA?
16:50 Bit9001 whats ppa?
16:50 Bit9001 have have cource code from databse that
16:50 Bit9001 only gets me about have of whats needed then the rest fails to download
16:51 PilzAdam do you have any console output of what exactly fails?
16:51 Bit9001 yes
16:52 PilzAdam can you pastebin it?
16:52 Bit9001 one in
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16:54 Calinou http://mesecons.net/
16:54 Calinou lol'd at "Reasons will be disclosed later."
16:55 iqualfragile Calinou: you could missuse the commandblocks
16:55 VanessaE forget that, GRR at the autoplaying video
16:56 Calinou it was obviously a security issue
16:56 VanessaE Calinou: a rather big one in fact
16:56 Bit9001 snet you pm
16:58 nore Calinou, users could get all privs on any server where they had commandblock
17:01 markveidemanis nore
17:01 nore ?
17:01 markveidemanis How is the luacontroller documentation made?
17:01 markveidemanis It really caught my eye
17:01 nore dunno, I don't really use it...
17:02 nore (and I didn't write the doc)
17:02 markveidemanis Could i have the source (if any)?
17:02 nore it should be at https://github.com/Jeija/mesecons.net
17:03 markveidemanis ok
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17:05 PilzAdam :-/ closed source
17:05 PenguinDad PilzAdam: what do you mean?
17:05 PilzAdam ("closed" as in "not free")
17:06 PilzAdam https://github.com/Jeija/mesecons.net doesnt specify any license, so its "All rights reserved"
17:08 nore PilzAdam, so that means I must explicitly write "license: WTFPL" in each of my mods... I hate that licensing stuff
17:08 Robby I found a "CC-BY-SA 2014 Mesecons Mod Developer Team" on their webpage itself tho
17:08 Robby if that counts for something :)
17:09 PilzAdam Robby, dunno.... I guess that means that applies to the content, but not the php code
17:09 PilzAdam nore, go to your government and ask them to change it
17:10 PilzAdam s/ask/tell/
17:10 nore haha
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17:17 Robby did anyone try to build that nuclear reactor in the technic mod btw?
17:17 Robby I cannot get it to work, and information on how to run it is non-existent it seems
17:18 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=125490#p125490 TIL: posting a link isnt as easy as I though
17:18 PilzAdam +t
17:18 Robby I built the building but how do I proceed
17:18 VanessaE robby there are a few of them on my servers
17:18 Robby VanessaE: how do I make it run? it stays at "Idle"
17:19 markveidemanis nore: how do i make it 100% of the width?
17:19 VanessaE Robby: put uranium fuel rods in it.
17:19 Robby I put 6 in them
17:19 markveidemanis Also, what's the license?
17:19 nore I don't know
17:19 nore (both)
17:19 PilzAdam markveidemanis, you are not allowed to use the code
17:19 Robby VanessaE: only then it started to hurt me so I had to get out of the manhole :p
17:19 Robby but still says "idle"
17:19 PilzAdam markveidemanis, it doesnt specify a license, which means "All rights reserved", which means: "Dont use it!"
17:20 VanessaE Robby: did you use:  nuke core surrounded by 3x3x3 water, 5x5x5 *stainless steel* block, 7x7x7 *blast resistant* concrete, 9x9x9 *technic regular* concrete ?
17:20 VanessaE the stainless steel is a common mistake
17:20 Robby yes
17:20 VanessaE a lot of people end up using regular steel
17:20 VanessaE now,
17:20 VanessaE did you cut a hole up the bottom center for a HV cable?
17:20 Robby yes
17:20 VanessaE and another hole down the top center for access?
17:20 Robby I made it run through the ground to the outside
17:20 markveidemanis WHat if i edit the code
17:20 Robby yes
17:20 PilzAdam markveidemanis, you are not allowed to edit the code
17:20 VanessaE ok then you must have built it wrong :)
17:21 Robby I probably need to connect something to the HV cable, but I'm at a loss
17:21 Robby ?
17:21 VanessaE maybe
17:21 PilzAdam markveidemanis, (yes, non-free code sucks)
17:21 markveidemanis to the point of <html><p></p></html>
17:21 VanessaE try hooking up a switching station and HV battery
17:21 VanessaE see if it goes online
17:22 Robby the HV battery I tried, I have that cable running into it currently, with a switching station right next to it, but perhaps I need to switch them around
17:23 nore markveidemanis, post an issue on the github repo to ask the license ;)
17:23 VanessaE Robby: you need a switching station also.  both.
17:23 VanessaE put them on the same line, in parallel
17:23 markveidemanis But i've done so much :(
17:24 VanessaE e.g.,
17:24 VanessaE reactor  switch   batt
17:24 VanessaE HV cable ====================
17:24 VanessaE if the reactor has power, it'll charge the battery
17:24 markveidemanis https://github.com/Jeija/mesecons.net/issues/4
17:25 Robby ok, I'll try that
17:25 Robby ooh
17:25 Robby there it goes
17:25 Robby wtf
17:25 Robby its charging now
17:26 Robby that is...odd
17:26 Robby the cable only goes into the batterybox tho, and I put the switching station right next to it
17:26 Robby on the left side
17:27 Robby the previous attempt I put it on the right side
17:27 VanessaE robby: as long as the cable connects to both and they're both on the same *circuit* (not separate runs of cable), it'll work
17:27 VanessaE though it's odd that the cable doesn't visually connect
17:27 VanessaE maybe an autorouter bug
17:27 specing proller: anyone caught me on Road, yet?
17:27 Robby well its not really connected to both, but indeed what you just said is probably it, visually you can't see it
17:28 Robby thanks for the help VanessaE :)
17:28 VanessaE sure thing
17:28 markveidemanis i did not know <hr> is a fancy thing
17:28 markveidemanis *separator
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17:36 EvergreenTree o/
17:37 PenguinDad hi Evergreen
17:38 proller specing, no
17:41 specing :D
17:42 Robby VanessaE: do you perhaps know a good way of doing 'maintenance' on the reactor through that manhole without getting so much damage?
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17:42 Robby I mean, from the moment the 6th rod is in, you must make sure to gtfo asap or you die :P
17:43 Robby is there a safer method?
17:45 markveidemanis reactors?
17:45 Robby yeah, in the technic mod there is a nuclear reactor
17:47 markveidemanis My life has been a lie
17:47 markveidemanis I don't like technic; too much
17:48 markveidemanis I like the simple things in life; building, socializing, trading, mining
17:48 VanessaE Robby: nope
17:48 markveidemanis s/life/minetest
17:48 VanessaE I don't know of a safe way to access the reactor short of yanking one of the rods
17:48 ShadowNinja Robby: You should have a good ten seconds or so.
17:50 ShadowNinja Digging part of the enclosure might disable the damage, but don't depend on that, it might explode soon.
17:51 Robby oh ok
17:51 Robby and yeah
17:51 Robby thats another pending test
17:52 Robby I want to see if it makes a massive crater or hole if it does
17:52 ShadowNinja It doesn't do anything but flood the console yet...
17:54 Robby oh
17:55 Robby lol
17:55 Robby so it does
17:55 Robby atleast the server console is flooding indeed
17:55 Robby my client console luckily isn't
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18:15 jnharlin <jnharlin> pm?
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18:18 jnharlin can someone tell me where the "help" is located for this IRC? I do not know how to PM or use PasteBin.
18:19 EvergreenTree do /msg person message
18:19 EvergreenTree for PM
18:19 VanessaE use /msg to send private messages, and a pastebin is any site that can that
18:19 VanessaE do that8
18:19 EvergreenTree as for pastebin,
18:19 VanessaE such as pastebin.com or pastebin.ubuntu.com
18:20 EvergreenTree http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
18:20 EvergreenTree bam
18:20 EvergreenTree post long error messages and code there
18:20 jnharlin great...thanks...and the PM?
18:21 EvergreenTree just do /msg name_of_person message
18:21 EvergreenTree name_of_person being who you want to send it to
18:21 EvergreenTree and "message" is what you want to say
18:21 jnharlin kk..thanks...trying on you...ok?
18:21 EvergreenTree mkay
18:22 EvergreenTree also, you can use the tab key to auto complete people's names
18:22 jnharlin thank you EvergreenTree
18:22 EvergreenTree for instance, putting Evergreen and pressing tab will complete my name
18:22 EvergreenTree no problem
18:22 EvergreenTree :-)
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18:25 ShadowNinja /help and/or /quote help may also be usefull.
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18:37 VanessaE Calinou: is that you on my server?
18:37 Calinou yes
18:38 Calinou can I have interact priv? :P
18:38 Peacock for once not an imposter lol
18:38 Calinou I don't think I'm being imposted often
18:38 Peacock i got people posing as jojoa, pilzadam, from places like Malaysia, Singapore lol
18:38 Calinou I'm positively surprised by the server not lagging (right now) :D
18:38 VanessaE heh of course
18:38 VanessaE actually it was earlier (mapgen lag)
18:38 Peacock well i think she switched to ded. host?
18:39 VanessaE Peacock: indeed I did.
18:39 VanessaE http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/pe1.xml
18:39 VanessaE I use one of these.
18:39 VanessaE I should ask them about the RAID setup they're offering now.
18:39 VanessaE (mine didn't come with)
18:39 Peacock i could probably decrease lag by plugging in directly to the router, but fuck, it's next to the bathroom lol
18:41 Peacock though there is a shitton of wifi noise in the building :/
18:42 * Peacock builds a faraday cage
18:43 Peacock i could always get the phone company to fix the other jack, but the last time i paid for that, the guy showed up high as a kite and said "theres nothing i can do" (union guys..) lol
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18:55 VanessaE Calinou: got tired of the lag? :)
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18:56 proller specing, you in ~6000 ?
18:57 Calinou low FPS
18:57 Calinou also I'm playing another game
18:58 VanessaE ohok
18:58 VanessaE PilzAdam: could you rebase the VBO branch?
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19:09 proller specing, you near something....
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19:41 specing proller: 6300 away from spawn I think
19:41 specing proller: im in a flat cave
19:41 proller need to go forward!
19:42 proller caves from v7 mapgen
19:42 proller and i think about disable float sand/dirt on this map
19:42 Peacock floating sand and dirt?
19:43 Peacock im a bit sketchy on physics but im reasonably sure that should be impossible :P
19:43 proller try FM ;)
19:44 Peacock i might test it if it reduces lag and cpu cycles, though im pretty sure my lag is the wifi
19:45 proller ups. not float, flowing!
19:45 Peacock thats what i thought :P
19:46 specing proller: you mean disable finite liquids for sand and dirt?
19:46 proller yes
19:46 Peacock http://madetobeunique.com/info/w​p-content/uploads/2011/08/18.jpg
19:47 specing proller: but IRL sand behaves much like a liquid!
19:47 specing dirt doesen't as it has roots and stuff in it holding it together
19:47 proller because too many cliffs
19:48 proller dirt_with sand not flowing ;)
19:48 specing Oh you mean your FREEMINER can't handle it? XD XD XD
19:50 Sokomine what was the link to the mod database again?
19:50 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb
19:50 proller no problem with speed, but it make map ugly sometimes
19:50 Sokomine proller: it's always impressive with what kind of screenshots you come up with. nice mountains!
19:50 Sokomine thanks, vanessa
19:51 proller now on Road server many awesome mountains, but i think they unreachable without flying
19:52 Sokomine i havn't been able to connect to the road server
19:53 Sokomine one disadvantage is that these worlds seem less for playing. the mount meru on landrush may be climed...but not be seen. no chance at that :-(
19:54 proller meru is small rock comparing to road goal ;)
19:56 Sokomine took a lot of time climbing that one :-)
19:57 Sokomine but the major problem remains that it's impossible to see that there's a mountain from anywhere if terrain does not load far enough. at least on servers. singleplayer is way diffrent
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19:58 Peacock you'd need farmesh i think
19:59 VanessaE farmesh is long dead and buried.
19:59 Peacock nevertheless, blockscape and space engineers use farmesh to give people a range between 100-200m
20:00 proller fm servers send enough distance to you
20:00 proller wat?
20:00 proller i playng now with 200-300 on my notebook
20:01 proller good farmesh must allow 1000-3000
20:02 Peacock id be happy if i could see more than two streetcorners away without maxing out both cores lol
20:02 proller fm server with fm client now by default can show 1000 dist
20:03 VanessaE but do you actually SEE 1000m out and what kind of framerates do you get?
20:03 VanessaE and is that on complex tree-laden terrain or just plain old open ground?
20:03 proller it works ok on floatislands
20:03 VanessaE that doesn't answer my question.
20:04 proller but 0 fps if full terrain loaded
20:04 VanessaE "0 fps"
20:04 proller here must be farmesh - it will give 30 fps always
20:04 VanessaE so, fat lotta good 1000m view distance is if you can't see it.
20:04 Peacock i once spawned a to-scale battlestar galactica, my framerate hit 0 before i could ever load the whole thing into view lol
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20:05 proller VanessaE, too stupid load all 1000m with textures to irrlicht
20:06 proller making farmesh is intresting, and it in my personal todo, maybe in this year
20:06 VanessaE proller: if irrlicht or minetest/fm can't handle 30 MB worth of texture data (which is more than even MY game has), there is a serious problem with the code.
20:07 Peacock yeah, it needs a rewrite lol
20:07 Peacock picture a house with more additions than the original size, thats MT :P
20:08 proller VanessaE, what about lazy loading?
20:08 proller and textures is small problem
20:08 VanessaE what about it?
20:08 proller why you need all textures
20:08 VanessaE the problem isn't textures or the size of the meshes or whatever
20:09 VanessaE the problem is how much you can render to begin with - and how much room you even HAVE to render
20:09 VanessaE I mean, if 1000m out, your blocks are half a pixel in size, why render them?
20:10 Peacock 1000m out you shouldn't be rendering individual nodes, thats what farmeshes are for :p
20:10 VanessaE yeah
20:10 VanessaE but,
20:10 VanessaE we won't ever see that.
20:10 VanessaE farmesh will not happen.
20:11 Peacock well we had it once, so it's not totally impossible
20:11 Peacock its more a question of willpower
20:11 VanessaE Peacock: thanks for making my point for me :)
20:11 Peacock though knowing this group, they'll come up with 4-5 different ways of doing it, and never settle on one :P
20:13 specing proller: FM client lagged on floatislands
20:13 specing (when fog is disabled)
20:13 specing but fog is super annoying, can't see shit
20:15 Peacock is there any reason though why ban/unban doesn't work when the player is dead but not respawned yet? its like nothing can happen until they close the deathscreen
20:16 proller specing, bad weather is annoying ;)
20:16 LazyJ VanessaE, as a server operator, what has been your experience with the Technic mod (and it's dependencies)?
20:16 VanessaE it works okay for the most part.
20:16 LazyJ Any "unhandled exceptions" due to a nil value crashes.
20:17 VanessaE quarries can sometimes cause lag if they're abused.
20:17 LazyJ Have players built lag machines?
20:17 VanessaE not recently, no
20:17 Peacock lag machines?
20:17 LazyJ Are players able to figure out the mods by themselves or do they constantly pester for someone to build a contraption for them?
20:18 Peacock mine pester to "share houses" but they dont fucking build one themselves lol
20:18 Peacock its like the concept of game totally escapes them :P
20:18 Peacock *of the
20:19 LazyJ Peacock, a while back I came across a YouTube video of Minetest where mesecons were used to create a "lag machine". Within the first 10 seconds of the vidoe, the YouTuber said it would bring servers to a crawl.
20:19 Peacock lol well hopefully that's been fixed
20:19 Peacock i imagine some kind of recursive loop?
20:19 VanessaE mesecons devices will "burn out" when the cycle too fast, ow.
20:19 LazyJ The YouTuber used to be active in the MT community... not "cornernote" but of that vintage.
20:19 VanessaE now*
20:20 LazyJ I've been contemplating upgrading to webdesigner97's latest "streets" mod but the signal lights depend on mesecons.
20:20 VanessaE mesecons generally don't work well as lag machines anymore, they'll deactivate if they cycle too fast, and either "pop out" as dropped entities, or change to "burnt out" nodes.
20:21 LazyJ Are the contraption mods worth it or do most players leave them unused?
20:22 Peacock people dont seem to miss 'em on mine
20:23 LazyJ I'm trying to keep the mods on our server limited to a good variety without excess or too much duplication.
20:23 LazyJ For example, we have 4 or 5 different light sources that accomplish the same thing - provide light.
20:24 LazyJ Lavalamps were installed but other than the novelty, they aren't very functional.
20:25 Peacock well in a lot of case modders listen to too many suggestions :P you end up with overly-fully-featured mods :P so i trim them down
20:25 LazyJ The mods we use are edited to suit the server, which takes a lot of work on my part.
20:25 Peacock for lrfurn and coloured glass i cut back on alot of the colours and stuck to the basic tones
20:26 LazyJ So, I'm procrastinating and thinking about more mods that I probably dont' want to have to edit for every update either.
20:26 Peacock i tried money2/vendor, then realised the damn money mod made so many text files i couldn't load my world folder lol
20:26 Peacock so a wrote a much simpler economy mod
20:29 Sokomine lazyj: if you want a sample technic installation, borrow everhill and let him do it :-)
20:29 Sokomine peacock: yes, that puzzles me as well. why do people want to "live" anywhere in a house in mt? it's for building...
20:30 Peacock well in my server you need a base of operations to craft stuff and protect your shit
20:32 LazyJ I'm going to setup a test, singleplayer world to learn about Technic, et al, for myself.
20:32 LazyJ My fears are:
20:32 LazyJ 1. lag machines
20:32 Sokomine lazyj: i'm afraid the soulution for linuxgaming would be to skip the permafy mod and switch on to areas. that'd solve many problems
20:33 LazyJ 2. This is the big one... more editing work for me everytime there is a major update. :/
20:33 LazyJ shadowninja'
20:33 LazyJ s area mod?
20:33 LazyJ That's in the plans.
20:33 Sokomine yes, shadowninjas. as seen on vanessas server
20:33 Sokomine that would be great!
20:33 LazyJ Heh, I just have to stop "playing" Minetest and go back to "work" on Minetest.
20:34 Sokomine it'd take time to convert all existing protections to the new one as that can't be done automaticly. for the transition time, both protection mods could co-exist
20:34 ShadowNinja :-)
20:34 Sokomine *g*
20:34 ShadowNinja How does permafy work?
20:35 Peacock dunno, still prefer landrush, its so much more hands off, dont mind running a server but admin'ing it is a PITA, spend more time answering questions than anything else
20:35 LazyJ Permafy works by making the admins work harder to the point they don't want to log into the server anymore. ;)-
20:35 Peacock lol
20:36 LazyJ Permafy is like "areas" in that 2 positions are set but they have to be set by admins.
20:36 Peacock like most of the areas mods
20:36 Peacock and people always want 10x what they'll use
20:36 LazyJ The larger the build, the more permafies are required.
20:37 LazyJ Yeah, we don't do land grabs.
20:37 LazyJ The few times I've spent hours permafying each area, 1 block layer at at time, I've regretted it during and after.
20:37 Peacock well its not so much land grabs as people saying "ill build this" or "dont build there i'll need that!" lots of bickering lol
20:38 Sokomine peacock: with landrush installed, you get complaints from me that that silly mod kills and bans me for picking flowers :-) i really hate that protection mod. by calling too much "griefing", it fails to make any distinction and in the end does not achieve real protection
20:38 ShadowNinja Hmmm, well areas has a self-protection option. (based on the method redcrab uses)
20:38 LazyJ I've experimented with "areas" on VanessaE's Nostalgia server.
20:38 Peacock as far as i know the one i installed doesn't ban, it just kills players
20:38 Peacock and they seem to learn faster that way than with other protection mods
20:39 LazyJ The thing I can foresee are players not willing to figure out how it works to protect their stuff. They will still want an admin to do it for them.
20:39 Peacock if you remember, on my last server i did ban players for trying to grief
20:39 Sokomine permafy was a nice idea, but it does not work well with how mt works. the basis is that a node in the area that's protected gets a metadata "owner" attached - containing the player name
20:39 Sokomine peacock: that's why i wrote my markers mod. the goal is to let players self-protect their areas in a way they do understand
20:39 LazyJ Yeah, permafy was nice in the early days but MT has outgrown it.
20:39 Peacock well any node that can be configured to do something (machines) typically do have owner fields regardless
20:40 Peacock yeah but they can set arbitrary sizes?
20:40 Peacock landrush is 16x16 which makes it alot easier for users to build a city together without large spaces in between or stepping on eachother's toes
20:41 Sokomine that's still something i have to sort out. i've prepared code so that areas have to be bought from the server. as there are plenty of money mods out there, that gets...complicated
20:42 Sokomine my current idea is to take cobble as a currency: i.e. 10 cobble for each square meter if the closest point is less than 100m from spawn; 5 cobble if it's less than 200 m...and so on
20:42 VanessaE bbl
20:42 Sokomine linuxgaming has an admin shop that buys cobble and gives money for it. land costs money. that works very well and helps avoiding ugly cobble buildings a bit
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20:43 ShadowNinja Um, a cobble per square meter seems awfully expensive.  And not all servers have a static spawn.
20:43 Peacock one problem with node money which i had  to tackle earlier this week: you need to load up every shop with some of that money
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20:43 playzooki hi guys
20:43 ShadowNinja Or ten rather.
20:44 Peacock well landrush you can sell claims, plus i have an admin shop that buys and sells most nodes
20:44 Peacock (inc more landclaims)
20:45 Sokomine peacock: yes, i know. that annoys me about the trade-shops: you need 3 of what you intend to sell: once to tell the shop/customers what's sold, second in form of money that you want in return, and third as a node where customers can look at the node
20:45 Peacock everyone gets 2 so people are usually good to setup a mine, extract minerals (of which i have 12 i think) and sell em for more stuff
20:45 Peacock did you see my shop node?
20:45 Peacock i tried to make it dead simple
20:45 Sokomine no, i don't think so
20:46 Peacock well i use server money (file), so the shops work like a chest: if you got the money, you can take the items (or if the shop owner has the money, you can sell him the items)
20:46 Sokomine there's that shop mod from dan with the trading mentioned above (it's good for certain situations), and there are the money-based shops found on menches old server and on linuxgaming. those are far more flexible than the trade-based ones but far more difficult for players to set up (you need to know the node name)
20:47 Peacock try setting up a shop on my server :P i solved that one
20:47 Sokomine sounds fine. ought to flow back into that other store-mod then :-)
20:47 Peacock flow back?
20:47 Sokomine i did build a nice house on your waterworld server. that seems to be gone :-(
20:47 Peacock map is still there, i just can't run that game with the later minetests anymore
20:48 Sokomine oh? what's the problem?
20:48 Peacock lag, CPU cycles
20:48 Peacock 17 mods and 120 nodes is pushing the limits of my newest box, the old game had much, much more lol
20:48 Sokomine afaik it had nothing fancy...at least the house consisted of nodes only. and your farming mod isn't bound to cause lag either. perhaps the turrets...
20:48 Peacock weren't any turrets
20:49 Peacock and actually since i removed the farming/moretree thing for my present server, CPU hangs at around 85-95% instead of 100%
20:49 Sokomine hmm. afaik the amount of nodes did not feel that large on your server. ever connected to vanessas?
20:49 Peacock well yeah she's nuts, she doesn't chose mods, she installs them all :P
20:49 Peacock no offense V :p
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20:50 Sokomine i just tried to convince her to install even one more :)
20:50 EvergreenTree o/ Enke
20:50 Peacock deer lord
20:50 Sokomine disabling preload_item_visuals has helped me a lot
20:50 Enke o/ EvergreenTree
20:50 Peacock yeah but on older boxes that causes the inventory to lag
20:50 Peacock p4 couldn't open the inventory in under 5 seconds without preload on
20:50 Sokomine it does - when first accessing it
20:51 Peacock (on my waterworld game)
20:51 Sokomine ah, ok. hm. thought you had a decent machine? but maybe i'm mistaken
20:51 Peacock i do, one decent, one old
20:51 Sokomine in my case, it's an acceptable cpu (relatively recent celeron) but...low-end gpu (what's inside that celeron)
20:52 Peacock and a netbook that never could play MT properly (visual artifacts, lack of trackpad settings)
20:53 Peacock i had to set the mouse sensitivity uber-high on the netbook to play MT, but every other app i had to put it back down :/
20:53 Sokomine hmm. the moretrees trees seem to be very gpu-intensive because they're that huge
20:53 Peacock yeah but i disabled the spawncode and it still lagged somewhat
20:53 Sokomine i can imagine that it's no fun to play mt on a trackpad
20:54 Sokomine strange
20:55 Peacock hm, well i see the sensitivity thing might have been fixed https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/657
20:56 Peacock hm, why dont tablet users get nodes when they dig?
20:57 Sokomine tablet users? can they play at all?
20:57 Peacock dunno, they're telling me they dont get nodes when they dig :/
20:57 Sokomine isn't that hugely experimental? at least on android?
20:57 Sokomine what are they using on their tables?
20:58 Sokomine er, tablets
20:58 Peacock well one of the many ports i imagine
20:59 proller https://play.google.com/stor​e/apps/developer?id=Kevin.de
20:59 Peacock thats what i was referring to :P
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21:09 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8276 VanessaE should add a big red warning in moretrees that it slows down servers a lot
21:09 Peacock well isn't that kinda like advertising people not to use it? lol
21:09 Peacock *to people
21:10 proller every mod slow down server
21:11 Peacock though it wouldn't hurt to sort mods by singleplayer and server-worthy use
21:11 PilzAdam proller, nope, not airsword
21:24 proller http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/po​st-your-screenshots.9/page-2#post-505
21:28 * sfan5 facepalms hard
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21:48 hoodedice I think
21:49 hoodedice That we should make a sarcasm guideline
21:50 hoodedice 1. Every sarcastic post should be accompanied with a spoiler that explains that youre being sarcastic
21:50 hoodedice !rainbow tumbleweed
21:50 MinetestBot 4t4u4m7b7l7e8w8e8e3d
21:54 Peacock it's sunday, everyone's at church worshipping the majestic christ :P
21:55 hoodedice Ah
21:56 hoodedice But I don't go to Church
21:56 hoodedice Does that mean...?
21:56 hoodedice Anyway, Pitriss is picking on this poor 4th grader
21:56 Peacock that either you worship the majestic Satan or the majestic Stallman
21:56 PilzAdam Peacock, you should turn off your phone then ;-)
21:56 hoodedice Heyo PilzAdam
21:56 Peacock phone?
21:57 hoodedice But I'm a mindless bot of Muhammed
21:57 PilzAdam Peacock, how are you writing here if you are at church?
21:57 hoodedice hmm,
21:57 Peacock i didn't say i was lol
21:57 hoodedice laptop?
21:57 * sfan5 jumps of joy
21:57 PilzAdam Peacock, you said "everyone", that includes you
21:57 Peacock though the church in this town look alot better than the modern (ugly) ones back in the city lo
21:58 hoodedice Anyway
21:58 Peacock everyone means ordinary people :p
21:59 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=125459#p125459
21:59 Peacock i exist in a fold of spacetime
21:59 hoodedice Ah, so I'm more than ordinary?
21:59 hoodedice Yaay
21:59 hoodedice PA, I just checked out that custom launcher
22:00 hoodedice What's a nice way to post without "NOOB, DID YOU USE M$ PAINT"
22:00 PilzAdam "NOOB, DID YOU USE M$ PAINT"
22:00 PilzAdam its the best way to say it
22:00 hoodedice or "BURN IN HELL, FAGGOTS, YOU DON'T KNOW DEVVING!"
22:00 hoodedice Oh well, thanks
22:00 PilzAdam best you combine these 2
22:01 hoodedice PilzAdam: How does this look? https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=125556#p125556
22:02 Jei_ !rainbow !rainbow
22:02 MinetestBot 4!4r4a7i7n7b8o8w
22:02 PilzAdam not so good
22:02 hoodedice Yaay rainbow!
22:02 hoodedice Oh, what did I forget?
22:02 PilzAdam less PilzAdam, more insults
22:03 hoodedice Okay
22:03 hoodedice How do I say: "GO BACK TO SCHOOL, MUTHALOVERS!!!"
22:03 Peacock a polite word for it might be matriarchal-fornicator
22:04 hoodedice That's good
22:04 sfan5 !rainbow https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=125556#p125556
22:04 MinetestBot 4h4t4t7p7s7:8/8/8f3o3r3um.m6i6n6etes4t4​.4n7e7t7/8v8i8e3w3t3opic6.6p6hp?p4i4d4=​7​17​27​58​58​58​63#3p3​1​2​5​56​56​6
22:04 sfan5 I can still click the url, lol
22:05 PilzAdam lol
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22:08 hoodedice brb
22:13 SirDigby http://www.chiptune.com/
22:17 hoodedice So anyway
22:17 hoodedice I start college from tomorroe
22:17 hoodedice The guy who teaches CIS, has his own pseudocode
22:18 hoodedice And it is the crappiest thing I've seen. lua is like, a million times better
22:18 PilzAdam bye
22:18 hoodedice wow
22:19 hoodedice hoodedice!
22:19 hoodedice what?
22:24 Hirato pseudo code is the crappiest thing ever :P
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22:31 john_minetest Hello everypony
22:32 john_cephalopoda Aaand I am a cephalopod again.
22:32 hoodedice SUDDENLY!
22:33 EvergreenTree suddenly, a wild john_cephalopoda appears!
22:34 Peacock before i file a bug report for nothing, any other server admins having trouble banning people when they're dead but haven't respawned yet?
22:41 harrison i am not dead!
22:42 harrison i am also not a bot!
22:42 harrison i am a free living AI!
22:42 hoodedice SO AM I
22:42 hoodedice YAAY
22:44 harrison i know nothing about the incident you refer to
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22:50 john_cephalopoda harrison: Better look behind your chair, Dr. Harrison. Cephalopod is near.
22:51 john_cephalopoda http://i.imgur.com/fptjMdg.png
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23:07 paramat hiya hmmmm https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/issues/1077#issuecomment-32137236 i'm requesting mud flow be optional as a mapgen flag
23:24 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Mapgen V6: Add flag to stop mud flow a358c040f2 2014-01-12T15:21:28-08:00 http://git.io/fBA30Q
23:28 paramat wow thanks!
23:28 ShadowNinja Well, that was fast.  :-)
23:31 MinetestBot GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Fix some errors reported by clang static analyzer. a4c5f10ecf 2014-01-12T15:29:12-08:00 http://git.io/GrrDJw
23:33 paramat hehe good to see it was an easy change, 4 additions 1 deletion
23:37 paramat it's also a small performance boost for us who can live without it :)
23:40 SirDigby mud flow?
23:40 SirDigby need to stop ice, naw mean dong
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23:57 us_0gb Have you seen the server list lately? One server boasts that it is in 3D in its description. Another describes itself as "wow, such nodes, very mod, so voxely, amaze".
23:58 hmmmm it's "much amaze"
23:58 hmmmm they can't even get it right
23:59 us_0gb hmmmm: Is this from something?

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