Time Nick Message 00:14 blaise so, I built a very large box.. its walls are 3 nodes thick.. 00:14 blaise just to test node owner 00:14 blaise because I've been having problems with it 00:14 blaise when I logged in.. I discovered a locked chest in the very center of the room with no nodes touching it.. 00:15 blaise not owned by me.. 00:33 iqualfragile @forum mods: please pm me 00:48 blaise 00:47:22: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Could not load image "invisible.png" while building texture 00:48 blaise 00:47:22: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Creating a dummy image for "invisible.png" 00:48 blaise o.O 00:49 * blaise vibrates 00:53 blaise I'm curious about a module to give stats about users 00:53 blaise something similar to a !seen command with an eggdrop on irc ? 00:53 blaise does such a think exist? 00:54 blaise s/think/thing/ 00:59 ShadowNinja blaise: IIRC PilzAdam has a stats mod. 01:00 * blaise gets very excited 01:01 iqualfragile blaise: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8127 01:09 iqualfragile is there some kind of sprinting mod? 01:09 katyusha iqualfragile, you could try running fast and holding down the jump button :s 01:11 kaeza iqualfragile, there was one by j4i, dunno if it's still around 01:14 kaeza meh can't find it 01:17 blaise does anyone use PilzAdams stats mod ? 01:18 blaise do I need to change both timer and timer2 ? 01:18 blaise or just timer? 01:18 blaise for making it more server preformance friendly? 01:21 * blaise pokes iqualfragile & ShadowNinja 01:22 kaeza oooh checking out my old as ass mods folder, I see many lost mods from when ompldr went poof 01:23 ShadowNinja blaise: Check the docs or code. 01:23 blaise I've read though it, but I'm not that good of a coder... 01:24 blaise I'll try and figure it out.. 01:33 blaise I'm having some issues with the factions mod 01:33 sapier which one? 01:33 blaise factions 01:33 sapier original one or mine? 01:36 sapier blaise? the one from modstore? 01:38 blaise eh, just a sec 01:39 blaise https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3294 01:39 blaise that one 01:39 blaise I dunno if that's the wrong one.. 01:40 blaise the only reason I was adding it is because it was listed as a dep for another mod.. which I actually can't remember right now 01:40 sapier that's the old one, the original author didn't answer to my request 01:40 sapier if it was animals modpack you added wrong mod 01:48 blaise great 01:49 blaise I believe it's for modf 01:49 blaise mobf I mean 01:49 sapier take the one from modstore 01:50 blaise https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/factions/ this one? 01:50 sapier yes 01:50 blaise has it shown issues with minetest-0.4.9 ? 01:51 sapier chances this will show any issues with newer versions are quite low 01:51 sapier it's amost independent of game api 01:53 blaise so I should be getting my mods from https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mods/ ? 01:54 blaise I was grabbing stuff directly from the formus.. 01:54 blaise I didn't even know https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mods/ existed.. 01:54 sapier is an option too but why don't you just use the in game download? 01:54 blaise from the mods link on minetests site it points directly to the forum threads.. not the mmdb 01:55 blaise sapier: I didn't know I could do that with a dedicated server.. 01:55 sapier in game "mods" tab online modstore 01:55 sapier oh :-) 01:55 sapier ok you can't 01:55 blaise I would very much like a gui to manage the dedicated server..... 01:55 blaise XD 01:55 blaise I mean, I can handle myself in CLI 01:55 sapier mmdb is supposed to have all the new things ... but I admit it isn't true right now 01:55 blaise I've been using linux since slackware first came out 01:57 blaise sapier: should I just be snatching from git? 01:57 sapier factions mod is in forum too it's just even more hard to find there ... as search dosn't work that well 01:57 blaise are the downloads git'able ? 01:57 sapier depends on mod 01:57 blaise aka cd .minetest/mods/($*) && git fetch 01:57 sapier I not recommend using git for mobf for example as it's way bigger then the zipped version 01:58 blaise hrmm 02:06 blaise sapier: you're awesome. 02:06 sapier what did I do this time? 02:07 blaise sapier: also.. is monorail a replacement for carts? 02:07 sapier yes but actually it's at least as old as carts 02:07 blaise sapier: you enlightened me to a very useful mod site I didn't know existed.. 02:07 blaise sapier: was carts yours? 02:08 blaise no, it's pilzadams 02:08 blaise interesting 02:08 sapier no carts didn't work for me so I extended some experimental mod I wrote long long time ago 02:08 sapier as noone did use it monorail was burried in forum for ages 02:09 blaise has it been revamped with 0.4.8+ ? 02:09 blaise if there even is any revamping to do? 02:10 sapier someone requested it to use cart textures, I added that feature and fixed a small trackfinding bug 02:10 sapier that's all 02:11 blaise well, atleast it's not stale.. :) 02:32 blaise random_message mod crashed my server 02:32 blaise lmao 02:32 blaise rm -r random_message 02:37 blaise sapier: are you still around? 02:38 sapier kind of 02:42 blaise sapier: is there any way I can remove a node not placed by me? 02:43 blaise aparently there is a remove stick in admin tools.. 02:43 blaise is that worth getting? 02:43 blaise the download link looks shady as all get out.. :\ 02:44 sapier I don't know 02:45 blaise any download link that points to some crap that wants you to pay for faster download is bad news to me 02:46 blaise looks and smells like crap 02:46 blaise mediafire = bs 02:48 blaise this looks promising ...https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1882 02:56 kaeza blaise, that mod is a must-have for any kind of public server 02:56 kaeza because admin pick :) 03:03 blaise indeed.. 03:04 blaise is there anything spectacular about the user name Admin ? 03:04 blaise I set name = blaise in my conf 03:04 blaise so I'm guessing the name Admin means nothing... 03:04 blaise people keep trying to log in as Admin.. there's already a user that I didn't make... 03:04 blaise it has no permissions on it.. other than the normal stuff 03:07 Hirato_ you're probably supposed to use giveme 03:17 blaise Hirato_: wuit?! 03:18 Hirato_ /giveme maptools:pick_admin_with_drops 03:19 blaise ah 03:19 blaise I don't care about the drops 03:19 blaise I got the purple pick 03:19 blaise :D 03:19 blaise kinda wish there was a hammer and sicle 03:31 blaise you know what I would like to see? 03:31 blaise a mod to prune the users that don't log in 03:32 blaise with a configurable variable to set.. like if they don't log in in 30 days to delete them off the server... 03:49 * VanessaE peeks in 03:54 blaise :) 03:54 blaise VanessaE: you still peeking? 03:54 blaise VanessaE: if so, can you explain why there's hundreds of people using the name prefix Guest on my server? 04:02 VanessaE hi 04:02 VanessaE because they're too lazy to enter a proper name 04:02 VanessaE if you leave the username field blank the client makes it up 04:02 VanessaE I have a mod on my server to deny such names 04:12 Sokomine most servers by now have such a mod. if one server is without an anti-guest-mod, it's no wonder the guests accumulate there 04:15 blaise VanessaE: would you be willing to point me in the direction of such a mod? 04:16 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=121980 04:16 blaise thank you very much.. :D 04:16 VanessaE this is the simple version 04:16 blaise also, is there a mod that will remove non-active users after a specific period of time? 04:16 Sokomine poor guests :) 04:16 VanessaE I use a more complex version that filters other crap like all-numeric IDs and which tries to filter things like "admin" as well as names that look like "fddswhfrhwf" 04:17 VanessaE most of it was written by kaeza and sfan5 04:17 VanessaE blaise: no, nothing like that exists, that I know 04:17 VanessaE of* 04:20 blaise kaeza: this, is cute.. lol https://forum.minetest.net/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=127&download=1&secure_str=3279f9 04:31 Peacock im pretty sure the idea to block ridiculous names came from me :P though we didn't have prejoin then, just bans :P 04:32 Peacock now im coming up with a filter for the server's chat (shout) 04:33 * Sokomine spams peacocks server with chat :-) 04:33 Peacock talking about obscene shit lol 04:34 Sokomine yes. like other servers *eg* 04:36 Peacock also, and this is more confusing, we have 10x the user than before, yet we got people going from server to server advertising other servers lol 04:36 Peacock even on the forums, (minerealms thread) 04:37 Hirato_ dick move 04:37 Hirato_ I propose immediate ding dong bannu 04:38 Peacock well if ppl wanna advertise their server they can pay me and ill make a 3x2 nodebox billboard with their texture on it lol otherwise yeah block that shit 04:41 blaise Peacock: I think that would be well encorperated with chatplus maybe ? 04:41 blaise I like having a mail system 04:42 Peacock chatplus doesn't already have a filter? 04:42 Peacock what does it do then? 04:42 blaise it allows you to ignore people 04:42 blaise and has offline mail tossing 04:43 Peacock ah well i was actually looking at maybe installing the paper mod, which would let people leave notes and such 04:43 Peacock though i need to change that one line field to text area 04:43 blaise yeah, that would be cool as well 04:44 Peacock today i was deciding if i wanted node-type money or money saved in a file... 04:44 Peacock i figured i'd be easier for shop owners if they didn't have to load each of their machines with node-money so i went with money2/vending machines 04:45 blaise :\ 04:45 blaise award mod is giving me issues 04:46 blaise 04:44:23: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods/awards/triggers.lua:101: attempt to index field 'place' (a nil value) 04:46 blaise oh well 04:47 Peacock for whatever reason place wasn't defined 04:50 blaise indeed 04:52 blaise rubenwardy is the father of that code 04:53 Sokomine sounds fine, peacock. i think the account/number based money is easier to handle for players. the exchange shops could still be used for moneyless trade 04:54 Peacock well the file based money will make a few other things easier: land deeds (landrush already supports that) and banking & speculation 04:56 Sokomine banking? tell ch98 about it. so far he tried to create a bank on every server i met him on. on redcrabs server, that was a bit difficult without any money 04:57 Peacock well with the landclaims in landrush you have collateral to seize 04:57 Peacock not to mention the player's inventories themselves 05:06 blaise wow 06:42 rikka yo 06:42 rikka anyone here? 06:42 rikka :( 06:56 blaise yes 06:56 blaise but you'll never know because you were to impatient to wait 07:55 Hirato no matter how laggy minetest gets, you can at least be sure it's faster than freenode >_> 07:56 Hirato client says 120 seconds at the moment, and I believe it, chat's coming in in large bursts 08:26 trauerlicht is there a lua-building bug on version 5.2.3? 09:19 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org 30000 09:19 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 is up (494ms) 09:19 blaise o.O 09:20 blaise 494ms? wtf! 10:08 Selat Hello. 10:09 Selat How can I chage node texture in on_rightclick method? 10:09 Selat *change 10:31 Selat So for lever I need to different blocks with different ids(active and inactive)? 10:32 Selat Thanks! 11:18 BlockMen hi 11:21 VanessaE hi 11:37 VanessaE john_minetest: regarding rrdtool, I'm still learning how to use it, but this is what I've done so far: 11:39 VanessaE This script creates my databases first. They give each one 1 day worth of stats, storing both max/peak values and 5 minute averages, with 1-minute intervals. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714364/ 11:39 VanessaE next: 11:39 VanessaE This script populates the databases. It is run once a minute via cron: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714374/ 11:40 VanessaE And this one runs once a minute also, and is what generates the graphs you saw, from the data storeed in the databases: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714377/ 11:40 VanessaE This tutorial is what got me all the info I needed for it: http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/tut/index.en.html 11:40 VanessaE (that's who wrote the program) 11:41 VanessaE you'll need to install a few support utils to gather the data e.g. iostat, mpstat, ifstat but you can pick and choose your preferred way to collect your stats. 11:42 VanessaE the create ^^^^^ step above only needs to be done one time, in theory. 11:42 VanessaE (though you'll probably re-create the databases multiple times until you're satisfied with what you're storing) 11:43 VanessaE the graphs you saw are presented by a tiny bit of HTML I hand-coded in gedit to match the style of the rest of my site, nothing fancy about that. 11:44 VanessaE I'm not 100% convinced that I am collecting and processing the data exactly right, but it *seems* to work anyway 11:45 VanessaE I won't know until I get a whole day's worth of data points so I can at least visually compare it to what I was seeing with my old host (which used the same tool but who managed it without my input) 11:47 xyz john_minetest: htop, iftop 11:48 VanessaE I use the latter, if I'm logged in. the former is so I don't have to :P 11:49 VanessaE s/former/rrdtool stuff/ 12:18 VanessaE xyz: speaking of server lists, would you mind updating http://servers.minetest.ru/ to point to digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-30004 ? (instead of the vanessae.mine.bz address) 12:19 xyz no 12:19 xyz it's dead 12:19 VanessaE oh. 'cuz the page still loads :) 12:19 VanessaE didn't notice the "last" date heh 12:20 VanessaE that...would tend to explain the inaccurate uptime :) 12:29 xyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124911#p124911 12:29 xyz HE DID IT! 12:57 pitriss https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125021#p125021 //spam 13:05 pitriss john_minetest: btw if you want something precooked for monitoring your computer, try munin. we can provide you also plugins for monitoring minetest 13:09 pitriss john_minetest: yep.. 13:13 xyz https://enews.lenovo.com/pub/sf/FormLink?_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DWQpglLjHJlTQGuHX2wP22zgzeXDoO39st32zc8zbbH0jpmRAmnVXMtX%3DWQpglLjHJlTQGrC0oYNGvnIoKD9UL4utYLAp22LeFzbKdtf 13:18 pitriss john_minetest: RAM monitoring: http://pastebin.com/vd9WL43t , CPU usage http://pastebin.com/A4dW5zK9 and ingame data monitoring https://github.com/Pitriss/overridemodpack/tree/master/munin 13:18 pitriss (plugins for munin) 13:21 pitriss ram and cpu usage plugins should be placed somewhere and symlinked into munin plugins directory.. symlink name should be nameofplugin_minetestport 13:22 pitriss john_minetest: okay.. 13:47 BlockMen Who want try 3rd person view for Minetest? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125034#p125034 :) 13:58 xyz BlockMen: nice, suggestions: remove cursor, add "front" view 14:01 BlockMen xyz, thx. cursor is present since it helps aiming correct and front view needs more changes because everything behind player is currently not rendered. but front view is something i would like to add,yeah 14:03 xyz not sure how it helps to aim 14:04 xyz I didn't think you're supposed to play the game in that mode 14:05 BlockMen well, thats how i made this 3rdpv. at least without front view player should be able to dig or pick up something 15:10 kaeza greetings 15:54 sfan5 hi everyone 15:54 iqualfragile hi sfan5 16:09 VanessaE [01-08 11:08] * kotkgkgiprlgooyllol@MT-N (kotkgkgiprlgooyllol@MT-Nostalgia) has joined #minetest 16:09 VanessaE [01-08 11:08] kaeza: ^^^^^ gibberish detection FAIL :) 16:09 VanessaE [01-08 11:09] blame sfan5 ;) 16:09 VanessaE (actually it works pretty good most of the time :) ) 16:10 * kaeza hide here too 16:10 kaeza +s 16:10 VanessaE lol 16:11 xyz gibberish detection? 16:11 VanessaE xyz: a forbidden nicks mod sfan5, kaeza, ShadowNinja and I coded. 16:12 xyz lol 16:12 xyz that's so wrong 16:12 kaeza lol why? 16:13 VanessaE gets rid of stupid shit like Guest14342, 4875427523553, dhsydsfgfdyhfs, variations of "admin", somenick5254534, and some others 16:13 VanessaE keeps people from connecting with such nicks to begin with 16:14 Calinou could also disallow bad words 16:14 VanessaE Calinou: it could, but I didn't add that functionality to my copy 16:15 VanessaE mostly just to disallow annoyances. 16:15 VanessaE if you can't be bothered to pick a meaningful name, maybe I don't want you on my server, etc/ 16:16 VanessaE wb 16:23 Hirato you know what minetest needs? an equivalent of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBICLteuQs8 16:25 VanessaE I'm glad I always watch youtube videos with the audio turned off. 16:26 Jordach VanessaE, nope to the headphone front over here 16:27 Hirato VanessaE: you missed out on the whole experience, and the whole point :P 16:27 xyz watched in 240p (because isp borked atm), 8/10 16:28 VanessaE bbl 16:28 xyz 3g is suffering 16:28 Hirato byebye 16:29 xyz need to install google analytics or something 16:29 Exio4 my 3g is somewhat decent 16:29 xyz to spy on average user age 16:29 xyz Exio4: yep, it's fine but too expensive 16:29 xyz here I have unlimited plan limited to 2 gb 16:30 xyz and then every 200 mb is 0.6$ 16:30 Hirato limited unlimited 16:30 Hirato r00fles 16:30 xyz it's unlimited 16:30 xyz just after 2 gb you get terrislow connection 16:30 Hirato more like LIMITED BY YOUR CREDIT CARD WOLOLOLOL 16:30 xyz 64 kbit or so 16:31 Hirato it's not really unlimited if you can quantify the limit :3c 16:31 Exio4 cheaper than mine :P 16:31 xyz "The old culture elitists are going to hate no matter what so it's best to ignore them." 16:31 Hirato I wonder if virgin mobile ever fixed their plans 16:32 Hirato they charged per kilobyte, a gigabyte ended up at around $15000 :P 16:32 xyz — retrans 16:33 Hirato 20.5 cents a megabyte 16:33 Hirato ahahaha 16:34 xyz ah 16:34 xyz it's the same here, for mobile operators if you don't get unlimited plan 16:34 xyz or maybe not, I'm not sure how it is now 16:34 Hirato such blood sucking parasites they are 16:35 Hirato first 3 gigs, $60, any more? $210 each! 16:37 Hirato I don't always hear hissing, but when I do, you fucked up 16:42 xyz > a kitten has to die 16:42 xyz > being that entitled to random videos kind people upload for you to youtube 16:45 xyz oh, not bad; I've finally managed to make adblock work in "blacklist" mode 16:46 xyz seriously, it's disgusting when a website breaks if you view it without ad blockers 16:46 Hirato kittens are always the first to die 16:48 Hirato I use noscript 16:48 xyz don't forget to enable nocss and nohtml 16:53 Exio4 noscript+requestpolicy+ghostery+adblock+https everywhere+stylish with custom CSS 16:53 Exio4 :D 16:53 xyz lel 16:53 xyz proprietary shit 16:53 xyz disgusting 16:54 Exio4 doesn't matter 16:54 xyz yeah sure 16:54 xyz "blocking" trackers with proprietary software never reviewed 16:54 xyz guess where's your data 16:56 Hirato https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1546051_10153727069535515_1828279857_n.jpg I know where mine is 16:56 xyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8242 16:56 xyz "It called NodeHunt you play as an, Node (Any shape like slab, stairs, etc)" 16:57 xyz you just do nothing and then you're dug 16:57 xyz Hirato: is he speaking in comic sans? 17:02 kaeza that's not comic saaaaaaaaaans 17:03 xyz me no expert 17:05 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 17:05 Calinou hi PilzAdam 17:13 zat Hi Plz 17:14 Peacock anyone know which craft guide is up to date? 17:15 xyz what's with all that bloat 17:15 zat Who thinks moretrees makes a server slow? 17:16 Peacock spawning part does, 17:16 Calinou I don't use moretrees 17:16 Peacock i have it installed but they dont auto spawn you have to use the saplings 17:17 Peacock i think landrush or some other server does the same thing 17:17 zat I saw that option comes enabled by default 17:18 zat an option that makes it spawn saplings instead of full trees. IIRC. 17:18 Peacock just comment it out ;) 17:18 Peacock ah theres an option, then turn it off 17:19 zat If I turn it off it will spawn grown trees. Isnt the saplings method better? 17:19 Peacock no clue, alls i knows is the on_generated thing is slow :/ 17:23 zat Minetest should be able to show what mods take more cpu. 17:28 xyz my trollmod is evolving https://github.com/xyzz/mobs 17:29 xyz zat: freeminer has Lua profiler integrated 17:48 hoodedice Sup peeps? 17:48 Jordach soap 17:49 rubenwardy Hi all 17:49 hoodedice Hi rubenwardy 17:49 hoodedice Jordach, sup with your random renders? 17:49 Jordach not a lot, bought a certain new game, might eventually spirit away 17:50 hoodedice OH NO YOU WON'T 17:50 hoodedice Say it ain't so, pleeees! 17:52 Peacock any of the other craft guides have troubling rendering recipes that use groups instead of nodes (ie most of the default tools)? 17:55 kaeza wtf https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125069#p125069 17:55 rubenwardy He has, hoodedice; traitor 17:55 rubenwardy :P 17:55 hoodedice wut? 17:56 hoodedice We are not into mods and shit. 17:56 hoodedice We support them, but grouping mods by default is plain stupid 17:56 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8242 the commas and speeling reminds me to liquid h-craft 17:57 PilzAdam eh *Likwid 17:57 hoodedice PilzAdam: How did you model carts? 17:57 PilzAdam hoodedice, I didnt 17:57 kaeza hoodedice, "Anything after that, and I'll come to your house and butcher you with a pickaxe." ? 17:57 hoodedice oh wow 17:58 Peacock kaeza the usual newbie welcoming committee i see lol 17:58 hoodedice kaeza: rtfs: Read the friggin spoiler 17:58 kaeza hoodedice, is that how we greet new users? 17:58 hoodedice *Sarcasm* 17:59 hoodedice Maybe, this is better? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8171 18:00 hoodedice Also, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124823#p124823 18:01 hoodedice PilzAdam: Who modeled it then? 18:01 PilzAdam someone.... cant remember 18:02 hoodedice Damn. 18:02 kaeza alright, I see you TL;DR 18:02 PilzAdam hoodedice, maybe look in the README? 18:02 hoodedice what, kaeza? 18:03 hoodedice PilzAdam: I just need to know what program they used 18:03 PilzAdam blender 18:03 hoodedice BTW, nigga is a banned username? 18:03 PilzAdam isnt that obvious? 18:03 hoodedice Oh wow, was that not obvious 18:03 PilzAdam (I meant the blender thing) 18:03 hoodedice (Both blender and nigga) 18:04 hoodedice IRC typing lag. 18:04 PilzAdam "nigga" isnt banned by the engine 18:05 PilzAdam it could be done in a mod, though 18:05 Peacock wouldn't that be racist? 18:05 hoodedice nigga on the IRC 18:05 Peacock after all, black people call eachother nigga all the time, blocking them might seem discriminatory :P 18:06 hoodedice usernname 18:08 Peacock ugh, i have to change all the default crafts that use groups if this bloody craft guide is gonna be useful lol 18:10 hoodedice I never saw this before 18:11 Peacock saw huat> 18:11 Peacock *? 18:11 hoodedice "It’s starting to seem to me that we need to change the Minetest distribution to contain a bunch of different subgames instead of trying to have one main game" 18:11 hoodedice Peacock: #impatience 18:11 hoodedice - Celeron 55 18:11 Peacock thats not really gonna help modding if you include most of the games from the start 18:12 Peacock in the sense that people will feel less of a need to explore or create new mods 18:12 hoodedice hmm 18:13 hoodedice Indeed. Everyone builds their own by mixing and matching different mods 18:14 hoodedice I use about 30+ mods 18:17 hoodedice Me too. I spend more time on the site than doing anything useful with the game XD 18:17 Peacock in any case if i were them i'd worry less about games and more about the engine lol performance is getting shitty even on my dualcore 18:17 hoodedice I used to test builds and stuff, but 18:17 * Jordach sits there with a polished game that nails 60fps 18:18 hoodedice I don't have a PC anymore 18:18 hoodedice Jordach! Pleeeeeeeaaaase! 18:18 hoodedice !rainbow Jordach Please! 18:18 MinetestBot 4J4o4r7d7a7c8h8 8P3l3e3a12s12e12! 18:18 Peacock my FPS is fine its my cpus that are maxed out lol 18:33 hoodedice !join #shadowempire 18:33 hoodedice lol 18:34 Calinou it's ## 18:35 * sfan5 puts a kitten on hoodedice's head 18:36 hoodedice Thank you 18:36 hoodedice That makes me feel better 18:49 hoodedice Oh boy 18:49 * Exio4 runs away of hoodedice 18:49 hoodedice *from 18:49 Exio4 doesn't matter, i'm already 174 km away! 18:50 hoodedice Man. 18:50 hoodedice You guys are right for one 18:50 hoodedice We do need changes around here 18:50 hoodedice Even VanessaE left 18:50 Exio4 VanessaE: did you leave? 18:50 hoodedice She did 18:51 hoodedice For FM 18:51 hoodedice AFAIK 18:51 xnrand FM? 18:52 hoodedice FreeMiner 18:52 hoodedice Minetest fork 18:52 xnrand oh 18:52 Exio4 xnrand is stalkin' us now 18:52 hoodedice lol 18:52 Exio4 xy go away you are drunk 18:52 hoodedice I just got his whois 18:52 xnrand Exio4: to be exact, i'm sober :3 18:53 hoodedice Hmm 18:53 Exio4 >german guy >sober 18:53 hoodedice Lemme summon the army then 18:53 xnrand although i wouldn't mind a beer 18:53 hoodedice PilzAdam: sfan5 18:53 hoodedice kaeza kahrl BlockMen 18:53 Exio4 wut 18:53 hoodedice IRC WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!! 18:53 * Exio4 nukes hoodedice 18:53 xnrand hoodedice: how about no? 18:53 Exio4 I won. 18:53 hoodedice lol 18:54 kaeza what the flying fuck now 18:54 hoodedice All under control 18:54 hoodedice Move along now 18:55 Exio4 kaeza: http://ar.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20131227205240AAWHLTB 18:56 hoodedice *Spanish* 18:56 kaeza "Hola samantha eres.muy bonita, soy lesbi, me encantaia charlar, tebgo 19 anios soy un poco timida, me gusta charlar, salir a pasear. Mido 1.65." 18:56 kaeza lol 18:57 * sfan5 gives xnrand a beer 18:57 xnrand sfan5: oh thanks a lot! 18:57 hoodedice sfan5 cool as fuck as ever 18:57 sfan5 hoodedice: stop disturbing me while I'm watching anime D-: 18:57 hoodedice I'm so sorry 18:57 xnrand *gulp* *gulp* *gulp* 18:57 hoodedice For disturbing your hentai session 18:57 sfan5 lol 18:58 hoodedice Please continue your faps 18:58 sfan5 please tell me how to fap to date a live 18:58 sfan5 that is not possible 18:58 hoodedice (And this is why dev is slow) 18:58 Exio4 lol 18:59 hoodedice The one with the red hair looks hot enough 18:59 hoodedice Kotori Itsuka 18:59 xnrand sfan5: you underestimate people 19:00 Exio4 xnrand faps with my little pony 19:00 sfan5 : 19:00 sfan5 :D 19:00 Exio4 if he can do that, you fap at everything that moves. 19:00 * sfan5 moves Exio4 19:00 xnrand Exio4: ...no. 19:01 * Exio4 throws sfan5 directly to xnrand 19:01 * xnrand throws... a party! 19:01 * sfan5 puts xnrand on Exio4's head 19:01 xnrand nooo 19:01 xnrand please don't 19:01 xnrand halp 19:02 hoodedice wut? 19:02 * Exio4 bites xnrand 19:02 xnrand sfan5 wants to put me on Exio4's ugly head :( 19:03 * sfan5 puts MinetestBot on xnrand's head 19:03 * Exio4 puts sfan5 on MinetestBot's kernel 19:03 * xnrand collapses under the weight of that robot 19:03 Exio4 you are *indirectly* on xnrand! 19:03 hoodedice Hi MinetestBot 19:03 MinetestBot Hello hoodedice. 19:03 * Exio4 makes a hole in the ground and puts xnrand's body there 19:03 * PenguinDad throws a kitten at Exio4 19:03 Exio4 MinetestBot! 19:03 MinetestBot Exio4! 19:04 * sfan5 puts Derpy Hooves on PenguinDad's head 19:04 hoodedice The only girl with sense, MinetestBot 19:04 * Exio4 throws a hoodedice at PenguinDad 19:04 hoodedice wooosh 19:04 * xnrand slowly backs away 19:04 * sfan5 throws MinetestBot's /tmp directory at xnrand 19:04 * xnrand rm -rf 19:05 * Exio4 rm -rfs xnrand'S / 19:05 Exio4 s* 19:05 xnrand my / contains the whole universe because i'm good 19:05 xnrand gg wp 19:05 xnrand s/good/god/ 19:05 sfan5 s/god/good/ 19:05 xnrand s/sfan5// 19:06 sfan5 s/xnrand// 19:06 xnrand s/./xnrand /g 19:07 sfan5 I may be a NULL byte now, but I can still destroy you 19:07 * xnrand double dereferences sfan5 19:07 xnrand segmentation fault 19:07 sfan5 /bin/kitten /dev/urandom > xnrand 19:07 Exio4 http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/seems-legit-part4-18.jpeg 19:07 * xnrand noms all the urandom 19:08 Exio4 xnrand: i found your laptop. 19:08 xnrand gj 19:08 xnrand i found it too 19:08 xnrand it's right here 19:08 xyz urandom is limitless 19:09 sfan5 Exio4: PaperCPU with 4 cores I guess 19:10 Exio4 it has six dedicated GPUs 19:10 Exio4 Graphics Paper Units 19:10 sfan5 plol 19:10 hoodedice lol 19:10 Peacock ugh, 3rd coffee machine in two years, maybe the gods are trying to tell me something lol 19:10 Exio4 stlll-better-than-my-broken-netbook 19:12 rubenwardy Capture the flag testing server at setun.net:30004 19:13 sfan5 !up setun.net 30004 19:13 MinetestBot setun.net:30004 is up (565ms) 19:13 hoodedice Dat ping 19:14 hoodedice But I can't test, so 19:14 * hoodedice flies away 19:23 rubenwardy kaeza, PilzAdam, Jordach, VanessaE. 19:23 Jordach WHAT 19:23 PilzAdam WHAT 19:23 Peacock ping all the peoples 19:23 Jordach can't you see i'm mining here! 19:25 rubenwardy Capture the flag testing server at setun.net:30004 19:26 Peacock im holding out for the WW2 version of CPT :P 19:26 Peacock *CTP 19:26 kaeza capture the p3n15? 19:26 Peacock woah lol 19:26 Peacock *CTF 19:27 Peacock like i said, coffee machine broken :P 19:27 kaeza yeah...sure... <.< 19:27 Peacock though if you've seen my server, i brought back one of the very first ridiculous tools i had in my first modpack :P 19:28 rubenwardy No ones doing anything 19:29 Peacock CTF might be too sophisticated for MT's playerbase 19:29 Peacock my server outside landclaimed areas looks like a demilitarized zone :p 19:31 rubenwardy Can someone help me? 19:34 rubenwardy 18 players, but none co-operating 19:34 Peacock i bet they're griefing randomly? 19:36 rubenwardy Yeah, although i took interact away from default privs 19:37 Peacock lol well that's like soko who wanted me to install areas instead of landrush and playpen the vast majority of users so the 1 or 2 serious players could have the rest of the map :p 19:37 Peacock mt players just aren't good at following the rules lol 19:41 rubenwardy urh 19:41 rubenwardy Can anyone join here? 19:41 rubenwardy It's not just capture the flag. The name is misleading. It is more city vs city. 19:41 Peacock is anyone building a city? 19:43 rubenwardy no 19:43 Peacock wtf, minetest.rotate_node totally bypasses protection somehow 19:43 Peacock no wonder im finding tree trunks all over my compound lol 19:43 rubenwardy But it would be empire vs empire, castle vs castle gameplay 19:43 ShadowNinja sfan5: NUL byte actually. (One 'L') 19:44 sfan5 ShadowNinja: a link to the rfc that specifies that please? 19:45 ShadowNinja sfan5: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc20 19:45 sfan5 (IIRC you can use both NUL and NULL) 19:49 rubenwardy Thanks 19:50 sfan5 damnit ShadowNinja 19:50 sfan5 I did not expect you to find something :D 19:50 ShadowNinja Peacock: I fixed that. 19:50 ShadowNinja :-) 19:52 Peacock out of curiosity, why isn't minetest.rotate located inside minetest.item_place_node? since thats what alot of protection mods override 19:54 Peacock or more to the point, why wasn't dir_to_facedir simply updated? lol 19:56 ShadowNinja rotate_and_place uses on_place, it should use after_place_node to avoid duplication and having to add things like protection in two places. 19:57 ShadowNinja I added pointed_thing to after_place_node for that. 19:57 Peacock thats what i dont get, minetest.item_place_node already rotates the facedir nodes, and then it's done again by minetest.rotate, seems inefficient 19:59 PilzAdam not everyone likes 6d facedir 19:59 Peacock well minetest.rotate is already part of some nodes in default, so it seems like they're getting it either way :p 20:03 ShadowNinja Some nodes shouldn't use 6D facedir, like chests, but I think the best way would be something like 6d_autorotate = true in the nodedef. 20:07 Peacock that's how i did it and told V how to do it :P though i used group {place6d=1,} 20:27 rubenwardy|phone huh 20:28 kaeza huh 20:28 Taoki huh 20:29 rubenwardy|phone for some reason i have a query open with myself on irc 20:30 rubenwardy|phone which i can't close 20:30 trauerlicht rubenwardy|phone: because you like what youre saying :) 20:30 * sfan5 puts a kitten on rubenwardy|phone's head 20:31 trauerlicht try /closethefu..window 20:31 rubenwardy|phone oh well 20:32 trauerlicht by the way, is there a known bug compiling lua on the latest version? 20:34 * john_minetest puts a kitten on sfan5's head 20:34 * sfan5 throws a kitten at john_minetest 20:34 trauerlicht Lua without anything 20:34 * john_minetest catches it and gives a fish to the kitten. 20:35 kaeza john_minetest, hurr 20:35 kaeza he means the Lua lib 20:36 kaeza trauerlicht, Minetest uses Lua 5.1, not 5.2 20:36 trauerlicht kaeza: ill try that 20:37 kaeza not sure why are you using 5.2, since MT comes with 5.1 bundled in 20:50 sfan5 >3. Something that is fully floating in the air (such as a half-cut tree) should fall down but not stay floating in the air, as most of the things in the game are subject to gravity. 20:50 sfan5 haha lol 20:51 sfan5 only sand and gravel are subject to gravity 20:51 sfan5 ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8239 ) 20:51 rubenwardy|phone he means in theory. 20:52 rubenwardy|phone ie: stone does not float in the air 20:52 sfan5 >Never pay for a game, that's what my friends and I always agree. 20:52 sfan5 o_O 20:52 sfan5 ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125028#p125028 ) 20:53 rubenwardy|phone huh 20:53 rubenwardy|phone hi 20:53 rubenwardy|phone uh 20:53 sfan5 I bought EDGE for 0.96€ on steam, I love it 20:54 sfan5 I don't get why you should not pay for games 20:54 rubenwardy|phone i bought gate 20:54 sfan5 that is like rubenwardy|phone shall clean my room every day and I won't give him anything in return 20:54 rubenwardy|phone Gary's mod 20:54 Calinou I don't get why you should not pay for games 20:54 Calinou DRM, proprietary stuff, free-as-in-cost alternatives 20:55 Calinou better accessibility 20:55 sfan5 >.> not every game has DRM 20:55 Calinou some of them 20:55 Calinou I don't get why you should not pay for games 20:55 Calinou you said that 20:55 Calinou also... what if you pay for a game you end up not liking? 20:55 sfan5 I'm talking about the fact that the dev should get something in return 20:55 Calinou no refund in the vast majority of cases (and always, on steam) 20:56 rubenwardy|phone orange box is awesome 20:56 Calinou demos of games get rarer and rarer 20:56 sfan5 john_minetest: portal 2? do you use windumb? 20:56 Calinou or, what if you pay for a game that doesn't run on your PC for various reasons? 20:56 Calinou you only know that after buying it... 20:56 sfan5 you obviously buy a better pc :P 20:56 Calinou you can have good hardware and issues 20:57 sfan5 if the sale isn't over yet I could maybe affort portal 2 20:57 sfan5 wow KSP is expensice 20:57 sfan5 expensive* 20:57 Calinou yeah, but that's not entirely accurate 20:58 Calinou sfan5, not everyone has a credit card 20:58 Calinou eg. under 18 20:58 Calinou and parents don't want 20:58 sfan5 Calinou: heard of paysafecard? 20:58 rubenwardy|phone Calinou, can i run it.com 20:58 Calinou doesn't work at a lot of places 20:59 Calinou so does Minecraft 20:59 Calinou so does Office, so does Photoshop, so does Windows 21:00 sfan5 Windows doesn't give a great experience 21:01 Peacock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2013 <--- missing "wielditem" 21:01 Calinou sfan5, a lot of people claim that 21:06 rubenwardy|phone best game ever: stronghold 2 21:10 BlockMen sfan5, at least better than ubuntu with unity 21:11 sfan5 Windows < Ubuntu with Unity < Ubuntu without Unity/Debian/Linux Mint 21:11 sfan5 I'd rather use Ubuntu w/ Unity than Windows 21:12 BlockMen o.O 21:12 BlockMen umm...no 21:12 rubenwardy|phone #minetest is full of Linux extremists 21:12 rubenwardy|phone gonna blow up Microsoft hq? 21:13 sfan5 sure 21:13 BlockMen unity is limiting users more than windows 21:13 BlockMen so how can it be better? 21:13 sfan5 anyway if you google google suggests 21:14 Calinou what if you search ? 21:14 sfan5 BlockMen: apt-get.. the base advantages of windows vs devian-based 21:14 xyz you're watching shit 21:14 xyz stop watching shit shows 21:15 rubenwardy|phone do you guys prefer Google or Microsoft? 21:15 sfan5 Calinou: how should I know? PilzAdam is the pony here 21:15 Calinou Google, I think 21:15 Calinou but that's only if you can choose between the two 21:15 xyz and you won't get shitty google results as well 21:16 * sfan5 doesn't agree with xyz's opinion 21:16 xyz wait let me check yo list 21:17 sfan5 you didn't check the list before...? 21:18 xyz no, I kinda hoped for it to get better 21:19 sfan5 so it didn't get better? 21:21 xyz I really can't judge most of the shows since I haven't watched them 21:21 xyz but Chobits is good, and having S;G on hold is unacceptable 21:21 enchilado Chobits! 21:22 enchilado Chobits is great 21:22 * sfan5 chops enchilado into bits (and bytes) 21:22 enchilado :o 21:22 enchilado Whyy 21:23 sfan5 because I'm surprised to see you talking here :P 21:23 enchilado I always talk here 21:23 enchilado Well, I used to, then somehow I left the channel 21:23 enchilado I'm in so many channels that I often don't notice for ages if I've accidentally left them 21:24 enchilado But I remembered last night when I saw a mention of Minetest somewhere else 21:24 sfan5 on reddit? 21:24 enchilado No, on IRC 21:25 sfan5 mhm 21:26 rubenwardy|phone question 21:26 kaeza 42 21:26 rubenwardy|phone woops 21:26 PilzAdam bye 21:27 rubenwardy|phone my phone has tourettes 21:27 enchilado I doubt it 21:27 BlockMen also bye 21:27 enchilado Bye BlockMen 21:31 harrison https://plus.google.com/107141453596010045869/posts/eZA146ha9E3 21:37 trauerlicht i feel like warped into the past with 7kbps downloadspeed. 21:39 specing proller: what happened with textures? 21:39 proller updated 21:39 specing also: how do I turn off snow? 21:39 specing proller: but they look so shiny :( 21:40 proller wait or run to place ithout snow ;) 21:40 proller and yes, snow texture now bad 21:40 specing can't I turn it off? 21:40 proller no 21:40 specing atleast the effects 21:40 specing I think it is making me lag 21:41 specing very much 21:41 specing I am using the freeminer client 21:41 proller maybe need to make optio 21:41 proller n 21:42 proller or make dynamic particles count 21:42 zat lol, 25% of processing time is spent on builtin/misc_register.lua. 21:42 specing pleeeeassee!!! 21:42 zat The callbacks caller. 21:42 specing also: how do you prepare raw meat (e.g. venison) for eating? 21:42 rubenwardy|phone bye all 21:43 specing I put it in a furnace, but it didnt cook 21:43 specing (with mobf) 21:44 Calinou maybe there is no cooking definition 21:44 specing D: 21:44 specing Yeah, I can't seem to find any cooked meat in the unified_inventory crafting guide 21:44 specing So... its useless? 21:46 rubenwardy|phone the food mod adds cooked meat and chicken soup. but nobody likes the food mod 21:48 ShadowNinja zat: The callback caller itself should be fast, but that function is between nearly all C++ -> Lua calls. 21:49 specing proller: btw, where am I standing on Road? 21:50 proller not very fresh ... http://minetest.setun.net/map.road/map-road.png 21:50 proller you an first 10% ;) 21:50 proller at 21:51 specing I could have sworen someone was ahead of me 21:51 ShadowNinja proller: You should block guests and remove them. 21:51 specing I saw cobbles placed in towers 21:52 proller making new image... 21:52 specing lets hope wheat will grow @ -29'C 21:52 zat ShadowNinja: so is there an issue or its just as is? 21:52 proller ShadowNinja, NO! i improve performance using live guest players 21:52 specing someone is with me 0.o 21:53 proller specing, if it grow - it bug 21:53 specing damn 21:54 ShadowNinja zat: No, there's no issue. That caller was added to minimize C++ -> Lua calls and increase performance. 21:54 specing how am I suppused to heal 8 hearts!?!?!? 21:54 proller using fast and water no problem to travel around all road map 21:54 proller but impossibe to reach Top Point 21:54 zat Well ShadowNinja, I see it takes even more time than the mapgen or plant_lib functions. 21:55 proller specing, maybe you die and catch survive bug 21:55 zat It actually is on top of the list. 21:55 ShadowNinja zat: That function itself? Or it and everything that it calls? 21:55 zat The profiler only specifies the functions 21:56 zat built+in/misc_register.lua:318 21:57 ShadowNinja So it and everything that it calls most likely, in fact it calls mapgen callbacks like plants_lib, so it's impossible for it to complete faster than them. 21:59 proller specing, you finished firs demo mountain ;) 21:59 ShadowNinja It's time is probably the sum of all times excluding on_place and the like, which are called directly. 22:01 Megaf Hi all 22:09 zat Well, I think lua is kind of overkill... all mods should be C/C++. 22:09 zat IMHO 22:14 specing proller: your mobs are acting up 22:14 specing proller: vombie attacked me in the middle of the day 22:14 specing the sun is exactly above me! 22:14 proller its not my 22:19 specing proller: what is up with the temp at +1000 being > than at +0? 22:19 specing is that your setting? 22:20 proller every 1000 up -3c 22:20 proller 10000up = ground temp -30c 22:21 proller as in real life ;) 22:22 specing ... 22:22 specing I was at + 500 or something and it was 14'C 22:23 proller it depend on ground temp 22:25 hoodedice temp in mt? 22:25 proller ground temp depend on season, day time, initial heat map 22:26 hoodedice or fm? 22:26 specing proller: there is nothing in the grow function that would indicate it is temperature dependent :) 22:27 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Document "wielditem" visual c3eb7fe316 2014-01-08T14:10:57-08:00 http://git.io/EMRaQQ 22:37 zat Anybody ever tried terasology? 22:45 ShadowNinja zat: I have. It's slow, but beautifull. 22:47 zat ShadowNinja: I feel like drugged when playing it. 22:47 ShadowNinja Heh. 22:48 zat ShadowNinja: the minetest.registered_nodes["default:ice"].use_texture_alpha = false did not work. :( 22:55 * trauerlicht bye bye :) 22:59 hoodedice Blockmen 23:00 hoodedice Will you change site theme for 5.0? 23:01 hoodedice oh lol, ain't here 23:26 proller specing, okay i will fix growing 23:34 specing proller: fix it so it actually grows!!! 23:34 specing so slow 23:44 proller fixed 23:44 proller but after restart server will apply 23:53 specing proller: can you enable areas mod so I can make a protected farm near 0,0,0? 23:53 specing where its warm 23:53 proller its protected 23:53 proller ups enabled 23:54 specing /areas help said invalid command earlier 23:54 specing on Road