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blaise |
so, I built a very large box.. its walls are 3 nodes thick.. |
| 00:14 |
blaise |
just to test node owner |
| 00:14 |
blaise |
because I've been having problems with it |
| 00:14 |
blaise |
when I logged in.. I discovered a locked chest in the very center of the room with no nodes touching it.. |
| 00:15 |
blaise |
not owned by me.. |
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iqualfragile |
@forum mods: please pm me |
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blaise |
00:47:22: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Could not load image "invisible.png" while building texture |
| 00:48 |
blaise |
00:47:22: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Creating a dummy image for "invisible.png" |
| 00:48 |
blaise |
o.O |
| 00:49 |
* blaise |
vibrates |
| 00:53 |
blaise |
I'm curious about a module to give stats about users |
| 00:53 |
blaise |
something similar to a !seen command with an eggdrop on irc ? |
| 00:53 |
blaise |
does such a think exist? |
| 00:54 |
blaise |
s/think/thing/ |
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ShadowNinja |
blaise: IIRC PilzAdam has a stats mod. |
| 01:00 |
* blaise |
gets very excited |
| 01:01 |
iqualfragile |
blaise: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8127 |
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iqualfragile |
is there some kind of sprinting mod? |
| 01:09 |
katyusha |
iqualfragile, you could try running fast and holding down the jump button :s |
| 01:11 |
kaeza |
iqualfragile, there was one by j4i, dunno if it's still around |
| 01:14 |
kaeza |
meh can't find it |
| 01:17 |
blaise |
does anyone use PilzAdams stats mod ? |
| 01:18 |
blaise |
do I need to change both timer and timer2 ? |
| 01:18 |
blaise |
or just timer? |
| 01:18 |
blaise |
for making it more server preformance friendly? |
| 01:21 |
* blaise |
pokes iqualfragile & ShadowNinja |
| 01:22 |
kaeza |
oooh checking out my old as ass mods folder, I see many lost mods from when ompldr went poof |
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ShadowNinja |
blaise: Check the docs or code. |
| 01:23 |
blaise |
I've read though it, but I'm not that good of a coder... |
| 01:24 |
blaise |
I'll try and figure it out.. |
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blaise |
I'm having some issues with the factions mod |
| 01:33 |
sapier |
which one? |
| 01:33 |
blaise |
factions |
| 01:33 |
sapier |
original one or mine? |
| 01:36 |
sapier |
blaise? the one from modstore? |
| 01:38 |
blaise |
eh, just a sec |
| 01:39 |
blaise |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3294 |
| 01:39 |
blaise |
that one |
| 01:39 |
blaise |
I dunno if that's the wrong one.. |
| 01:40 |
blaise |
the only reason I was adding it is because it was listed as a dep for another mod.. which I actually can't remember right now |
| 01:40 |
sapier |
that's the old one, the original author didn't answer to my request |
| 01:40 |
sapier |
if it was animals modpack you added wrong mod |
| 01:48 |
blaise |
great |
| 01:49 |
blaise |
I believe it's for modf |
| 01:49 |
blaise |
mobf I mean |
| 01:49 |
sapier |
take the one from modstore |
| 01:50 |
blaise |
https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/factions/ this one? |
| 01:50 |
sapier |
yes |
| 01:50 |
blaise |
has it shown issues with minetest-0.4.9 ? |
| 01:51 |
sapier |
chances this will show any issues with newer versions are quite low |
| 01:51 |
sapier |
it's amost independent of game api |
| 01:53 |
blaise |
so I should be getting my mods from https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mods/ ? |
| 01:54 |
blaise |
I was grabbing stuff directly from the formus.. |
| 01:54 |
blaise |
I didn't even know https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mods/ existed.. |
| 01:54 |
sapier |
is an option too but why don't you just use the in game download? |
| 01:54 |
blaise |
from the mods link on minetests site it points directly to the forum threads.. not the mmdb |
| 01:55 |
blaise |
sapier: I didn't know I could do that with a dedicated server.. |
| 01:55 |
sapier |
in game "mods" tab online modstore |
| 01:55 |
sapier |
oh :-) |
| 01:55 |
sapier |
ok you can't |
| 01:55 |
blaise |
I would very much like a gui to manage the dedicated server..... |
| 01:55 |
blaise |
XD |
| 01:55 |
blaise |
I mean, I can handle myself in CLI |
| 01:55 |
sapier |
mmdb is supposed to have all the new things ... but I admit it isn't true right now |
| 01:55 |
blaise |
I've been using linux since slackware first came out |
| 01:57 |
blaise |
sapier: should I just be snatching from git? |
| 01:57 |
sapier |
factions mod is in forum too it's just even more hard to find there ... as search dosn't work that well |
| 01:57 |
blaise |
are the downloads git'able ? |
| 01:57 |
sapier |
depends on mod |
| 01:57 |
blaise |
aka cd .minetest/mods/($*) && git fetch |
| 01:57 |
sapier |
I not recommend using git for mobf for example as it's way bigger then the zipped version |
| 01:58 |
blaise |
hrmm |
| 02:06 |
blaise |
sapier: you're awesome. |
| 02:06 |
sapier |
what did I do this time? |
| 02:07 |
blaise |
sapier: also.. is monorail a replacement for carts? |
| 02:07 |
sapier |
yes but actually it's at least as old as carts |
| 02:07 |
blaise |
sapier: you enlightened me to a very useful mod site I didn't know existed.. |
| 02:07 |
blaise |
sapier: was carts yours? |
| 02:08 |
blaise |
no, it's pilzadams |
| 02:08 |
blaise |
interesting |
| 02:08 |
sapier |
no carts didn't work for me so I extended some experimental mod I wrote long long time ago |
| 02:08 |
sapier |
as noone did use it monorail was burried in forum for ages |
| 02:09 |
blaise |
has it been revamped with 0.4.8+ ? |
| 02:09 |
blaise |
if there even is any revamping to do? |
| 02:10 |
sapier |
someone requested it to use cart textures, I added that feature and fixed a small trackfinding bug |
| 02:10 |
sapier |
that's all |
| 02:11 |
blaise |
well, atleast it's not stale.. :) |
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| 02:32 |
blaise |
random_message mod crashed my server |
| 02:32 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 02:32 |
blaise |
rm -r random_message |
| 02:37 |
blaise |
sapier: are you still around? |
| 02:38 |
sapier |
kind of |
| 02:42 |
blaise |
sapier: is there any way I can remove a node not placed by me? |
| 02:43 |
blaise |
aparently there is a remove stick in admin tools.. |
| 02:43 |
blaise |
is that worth getting? |
| 02:43 |
blaise |
the download link looks shady as all get out.. :\ |
| 02:44 |
sapier |
I don't know |
| 02:45 |
blaise |
any download link that points to some crap that wants you to pay for faster download is bad news to me |
| 02:46 |
blaise |
looks and smells like crap |
| 02:46 |
blaise |
mediafire = bs |
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blaise |
this looks promising ...https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1882 |
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kaeza |
blaise, that mod is a must-have for any kind of public server |
| 02:56 |
kaeza |
because admin pick :) |
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| 03:03 |
blaise |
indeed.. |
| 03:04 |
blaise |
is there anything spectacular about the user name Admin ? |
| 03:04 |
blaise |
I set name = blaise in my conf |
| 03:04 |
blaise |
so I'm guessing the name Admin means nothing... |
| 03:04 |
blaise |
people keep trying to log in as Admin.. there's already a user that I didn't make... |
| 03:04 |
blaise |
it has no permissions on it.. other than the normal stuff |
| 03:07 |
Hirato_ |
you're probably supposed to use giveme |
| 03:17 |
blaise |
Hirato_: wuit?! |
| 03:18 |
Hirato_ |
/giveme maptools:pick_admin_with_drops |
| 03:19 |
blaise |
ah |
| 03:19 |
blaise |
I don't care about the drops |
| 03:19 |
blaise |
I got the purple pick |
| 03:19 |
blaise |
:D |
| 03:19 |
blaise |
kinda wish there was a hammer and sicle |
| 03:31 |
blaise |
you know what I would like to see? |
| 03:31 |
blaise |
a mod to prune the users that don't log in |
| 03:32 |
blaise |
with a configurable variable to set.. like if they don't log in in 30 days to delete them off the server... |
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* VanessaE |
peeks in |
| 03:54 |
blaise |
:) |
| 03:54 |
blaise |
VanessaE: you still peeking? |
| 03:54 |
blaise |
VanessaE: if so, can you explain why there's hundreds of people using the name prefix Guest on my server? |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
because they're too lazy to enter a proper name |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
if you leave the username field blank the client makes it up |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
I have a mod on my server to deny such names |
| 04:12 |
Sokomine |
most servers by now have such a mod. if one server is without an anti-guest-mod, it's no wonder the guests accumulate there |
| 04:15 |
blaise |
VanessaE: would you be willing to point me in the direction of such a mod? |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=121980 |
| 04:16 |
blaise |
thank you very much.. :D |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
this is the simple version |
| 04:16 |
blaise |
also, is there a mod that will remove non-active users after a specific period of time? |
| 04:16 |
Sokomine |
poor guests :) |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
I use a more complex version that filters other crap like all-numeric IDs and which tries to filter things like "admin" as well as names that look like "fddswhfrhwf" |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
most of it was written by kaeza and sfan5 |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
blaise: no, nothing like that exists, that I know |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
of* |
| 04:20 |
blaise |
kaeza: this, is cute.. lol https://forum.minetest.net/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=127&download=1&secure_str=3279f9 |
| 04:31 |
Peacock |
im pretty sure the idea to block ridiculous names came from me :P though we didn't have prejoin then, just bans :P |
| 04:32 |
Peacock |
now im coming up with a filter for the server's chat (shout) |
| 04:33 |
* Sokomine |
spams peacocks server with chat :-) |
| 04:33 |
Peacock |
talking about obscene shit lol |
| 04:34 |
Sokomine |
yes. like other servers *eg* |
| 04:36 |
Peacock |
also, and this is more confusing, we have 10x the user than before, yet we got people going from server to server advertising other servers lol |
| 04:36 |
Peacock |
even on the forums, (minerealms thread) |
| 04:37 |
Hirato_ |
dick move |
| 04:37 |
Hirato_ |
I propose immediate ding dong bannu |
| 04:38 |
Peacock |
well if ppl wanna advertise their server they can pay me and ill make a 3x2 nodebox billboard with their texture on it lol otherwise yeah block that shit |
| 04:41 |
blaise |
Peacock: I think that would be well encorperated with chatplus maybe ? |
| 04:41 |
blaise |
I like having a mail system |
| 04:42 |
Peacock |
chatplus doesn't already have a filter? |
| 04:42 |
Peacock |
what does it do then? |
| 04:42 |
blaise |
it allows you to ignore people |
| 04:42 |
blaise |
and has offline mail tossing |
| 04:43 |
Peacock |
ah well i was actually looking at maybe installing the paper mod, which would let people leave notes and such |
| 04:43 |
Peacock |
though i need to change that one line field to text area |
| 04:43 |
blaise |
yeah, that would be cool as well |
| 04:44 |
Peacock |
today i was deciding if i wanted node-type money or money saved in a file... |
| 04:44 |
Peacock |
i figured i'd be easier for shop owners if they didn't have to load each of their machines with node-money so i went with money2/vending machines |
| 04:45 |
blaise |
:\ |
| 04:45 |
blaise |
award mod is giving me issues |
| 04:46 |
blaise |
04:44:23: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods/awards/triggers.lua:101: attempt to index field 'place' (a nil value) |
| 04:46 |
blaise |
oh well |
| 04:47 |
Peacock |
for whatever reason place wasn't defined |
| 04:50 |
blaise |
indeed |
| 04:52 |
blaise |
rubenwardy is the father of that code |
| 04:53 |
Sokomine |
sounds fine, peacock. i think the account/number based money is easier to handle for players. the exchange shops could still be used for moneyless trade |
| 04:54 |
Peacock |
well the file based money will make a few other things easier: land deeds (landrush already supports that) and banking & speculation |
| 04:56 |
Sokomine |
banking? tell ch98 about it. so far he tried to create a bank on every server i met him on. on redcrabs server, that was a bit difficult without any money |
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Peacock |
well with the landclaims in landrush you have collateral to seize |
| 04:57 |
Peacock |
not to mention the player's inventories themselves |
| 05:06 |
blaise |
wow |
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rikka |
yo |
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rikka |
anyone here? |
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rikka |
:( |
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blaise |
yes |
| 06:56 |
blaise |
but you'll never know because you were to impatient to wait |
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Hirato |
no matter how laggy minetest gets, you can at least be sure it's faster than freenode >_> |
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Hirato |
client says 120 seconds at the moment, and I believe it, chat's coming in in large bursts |
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trauerlicht |
is there a lua-building bug on version 5.2.3? |
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blaise |
!up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org 30000 |
| 09:19 |
MinetestBot |
midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 is up (494ms) |
| 09:19 |
blaise |
o.O |
| 09:20 |
blaise |
494ms? wtf! |
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Selat |
Hello. |
| 10:09 |
Selat |
How can I chage node texture in on_rightclick method? |
| 10:09 |
Selat |
*change |
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Selat |
So for lever I need to different blocks with different ids(active and inactive)? |
| 10:32 |
Selat |
Thanks! |
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BlockMen |
hi |
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VanessaE |
hi |
| 11:37 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: regarding rrdtool, I'm still learning how to use it, but this is what I've done so far: |
| 11:39 |
VanessaE |
This script creates my databases first. They give each one 1 day worth of stats, storing both max/peak values and 5 minute averages, with 1-minute intervals. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714364/ |
| 11:39 |
VanessaE |
next: |
| 11:39 |
VanessaE |
This script populates the databases. It is run once a minute via cron: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714374/ |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
And this one runs once a minute also, and is what generates the graphs you saw, from the data storeed in the databases: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714377/ |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
This tutorial is what got me all the info I needed for it: http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/tut/index.en.html |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
(that's who wrote the program) |
| 11:41 |
VanessaE |
you'll need to install a few support utils to gather the data e.g. iostat, mpstat, ifstat but you can pick and choose your preferred way to collect your stats. |
| 11:42 |
VanessaE |
the create ^^^^^ step above only needs to be done one time, in theory. |
| 11:42 |
VanessaE |
(though you'll probably re-create the databases multiple times until you're satisfied with what you're storing) |
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VanessaE |
the graphs you saw are presented by a tiny bit of HTML I hand-coded in gedit to match the style of the rest of my site, nothing fancy about that. |
| 11:44 |
VanessaE |
I'm not 100% convinced that I am collecting and processing the data exactly right, but it *seems* to work anyway |
| 11:45 |
VanessaE |
I won't know until I get a whole day's worth of data points so I can at least visually compare it to what I was seeing with my old host (which used the same tool but who managed it without my input) |
| 11:47 |
xyz |
john_minetest: htop, iftop |
| 11:48 |
VanessaE |
I use the latter, if I'm logged in. the former is so I don't have to :P |
| 11:49 |
VanessaE |
s/former/rrdtool stuff/ |
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VanessaE |
xyz: speaking of server lists, would you mind updating http://servers.minetest.ru/ to point to digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-30004 ? (instead of the vanessae.mine.bz address) |
| 12:19 |
xyz |
no |
| 12:19 |
xyz |
it's dead |
| 12:19 |
VanessaE |
oh. 'cuz the page still loads :) |
| 12:19 |
VanessaE |
didn't notice the "last" date heh |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE |
that...would tend to explain the inaccurate uptime :) |
| 12:29 |
xyz |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124911#p124911 |
| 12:29 |
xyz |
HE DID IT! |
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pitriss |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125021#p125021 //spam |
| 13:05 |
pitriss |
john_minetest: btw if you want something precooked for monitoring your computer, try munin. we can provide you also plugins for monitoring minetest |
| 13:09 |
pitriss |
john_minetest: yep.. |
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xyz |
https://enews.lenovo.com/pub/sf/FormLink?_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DWQpglLjHJlTQGuHX2wP22zgzeXDoO39st32zc8zbbH0jpmRAmnVXMtX%3DWQpglLjHJlTQGrC0oYNGvnIoKD9UL4utYLAp22LeFzbKdtf |
| 13:18 |
pitriss |
john_minetest: RAM monitoring: http://pastebin.com/vd9WL43t , CPU usage http://pastebin.com/A4dW5zK9 and ingame data monitoring https://github.com/Pitriss/overridemodpack/tree/master/munin |
| 13:18 |
pitriss |
(plugins for munin) |
| 13:21 |
pitriss |
ram and cpu usage plugins should be placed somewhere and symlinked into munin plugins directory.. symlink name should be nameofplugin_minetestport |
| 13:22 |
pitriss |
john_minetest: okay.. |
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BlockMen |
Who want try 3rd person view for Minetest? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125034#p125034 :) |
| 13:58 |
xyz |
BlockMen: nice, suggestions: remove cursor, add "front" view |
| 14:01 |
BlockMen |
xyz, thx. cursor is present since it helps aiming correct and front view needs more changes because everything behind player is currently not rendered. but front view is something i would like to add,yeah |
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xyz |
not sure how it helps to aim |
| 14:04 |
xyz |
I didn't think you're supposed to play the game in that mode |
| 14:05 |
BlockMen |
well, thats how i made this 3rdpv. at least without front view player should be able to dig or pick up something |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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iqualfragile |
hi sfan5 |
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VanessaE |
[01-08 11:08] * kotkgkgiprlgooyllol MT-N (kotkgkgiprlgooyllolMT-Nostalgia) has joined #minetest |
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VanessaE |
[01-08 11:08] <VanessaE> kaeza: ^^^^^ gibberish detection FAIL :) |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
[01-08 11:09] <kaeza> blame sfan5 ;) |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
(actually it works pretty good most of the time :) ) |
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* kaeza |
hide here too |
| 16:10 |
kaeza |
+s |
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VanessaE |
lol |
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xyz |
gibberish detection? |
| 16:11 |
VanessaE |
xyz: a forbidden nicks mod sfan5, kaeza, ShadowNinja and I coded. |
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xyz |
lol |
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xyz |
that's so wrong |
| 16:12 |
kaeza |
lol why? |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
gets rid of stupid shit like Guest14342, 4875427523553, dhsydsfgfdyhfs, variations of "admin", somenick5254534, and some others |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
keeps people from connecting with such nicks to begin with |
| 16:14 |
Calinou |
could also disallow bad words |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: it could, but I didn't add that functionality to my copy |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
mostly just to disallow annoyances. |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
if you can't be bothered to pick a meaningful name, maybe I don't want you on my server, etc/ |
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VanessaE |
wb |
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Hirato |
you know what minetest needs? an equivalent of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBICLteuQs8 |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
I'm glad I always watch youtube videos with the audio turned off. |
| 16:26 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, nope to the headphone front over here |
| 16:27 |
Hirato |
VanessaE: you missed out on the whole experience, and the whole point :P |
| 16:27 |
xyz |
watched in 240p (because isp borked atm), 8/10 |
| 16:28 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 16:28 |
xyz |
3g is suffering |
| 16:28 |
Hirato |
byebye |
| 16:29 |
xyz |
need to install google analytics or something |
| 16:29 |
Exio4 |
my 3g is somewhat decent |
| 16:29 |
xyz |
to spy on average user age |
| 16:29 |
xyz |
Exio4: yep, it's fine but too expensive |
| 16:29 |
xyz |
here I have unlimited plan limited to 2 gb |
| 16:30 |
xyz |
and then every 200 mb is 0.6$ |
| 16:30 |
Hirato |
limited unlimited |
| 16:30 |
Hirato |
r00fles |
| 16:30 |
xyz |
it's unlimited |
| 16:30 |
xyz |
just after 2 gb you get terrislow connection |
| 16:30 |
Hirato |
more like LIMITED BY YOUR CREDIT CARD WOLOLOLOL |
| 16:30 |
xyz |
64 kbit or so |
| 16:31 |
Hirato |
it's not really unlimited if you can quantify the limit :3c |
| 16:31 |
Exio4 |
cheaper than mine :P |
| 16:31 |
xyz |
"The old culture elitists are going to hate no matter what so it's best to ignore them." |
| 16:31 |
Hirato |
I wonder if virgin mobile ever fixed their plans |
| 16:32 |
Hirato |
they charged per kilobyte, a gigabyte ended up at around $15000 :P |
| 16:32 |
xyz |
— retrans |
| 16:33 |
Hirato |
20.5 cents a megabyte |
| 16:33 |
Hirato |
ahahaha |
| 16:34 |
xyz |
ah |
| 16:34 |
xyz |
it's the same here, for mobile operators if you don't get unlimited plan |
| 16:34 |
xyz |
or maybe not, I'm not sure how it is now |
| 16:34 |
Hirato |
such blood sucking parasites they are |
| 16:35 |
Hirato |
first 3 gigs, $60, any more? $210 each! |
| 16:37 |
Hirato |
I don't always hear hissing, but when I do, you fucked up |
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xyz |
> a kitten has to die |
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xyz |
> being that entitled to random videos kind people upload for you to youtube |
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xyz |
oh, not bad; I've finally managed to make adblock work in "blacklist" mode |
| 16:46 |
xyz |
seriously, it's disgusting when a website breaks if you view it without ad blockers |
| 16:46 |
Hirato |
kittens are always the first to die |
| 16:48 |
Hirato |
I use noscript |
| 16:48 |
xyz |
don't forget to enable nocss and nohtml |
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Exio4 |
noscript+requestpolicy+ghostery+adblock+https everywhere+stylish with custom CSS |
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Exio4 |
:D |
| 16:53 |
xyz |
lel |
| 16:53 |
xyz |
proprietary shit |
| 16:53 |
xyz |
disgusting |
| 16:54 |
Exio4 |
doesn't matter |
| 16:54 |
xyz |
yeah sure |
| 16:54 |
xyz |
"blocking" trackers with proprietary software never reviewed |
| 16:54 |
xyz |
guess where's your data |
| 16:56 |
Hirato |
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1546051_10153727069535515_1828279857_n.jpg I know where mine is |
| 16:56 |
xyz |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8242 |
| 16:56 |
xyz |
"It called NodeHunt you play as an, Node (Any shape like slab, stairs, etc)" |
| 16:57 |
xyz |
you just do nothing and then you're dug |
| 16:57 |
xyz |
Hirato: is he speaking in comic sans? |
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kaeza |
that's not comic saaaaaaaaaans |
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xyz |
me no expert |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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Calinou |
hi PilzAdam |
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zat |
Hi Plz |
| 17:14 |
Peacock |
anyone know which craft guide is up to date? |
| 17:15 |
xyz |
what's with all that bloat |
| 17:15 |
zat |
Who thinks moretrees makes a server slow? |
| 17:16 |
Peacock |
spawning part does, |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
I don't use moretrees |
| 17:16 |
Peacock |
i have it installed but they dont auto spawn you have to use the saplings |
| 17:17 |
Peacock |
i think landrush or some other server does the same thing |
| 17:17 |
zat |
I saw that option comes enabled by default |
| 17:18 |
zat |
an option that makes it spawn saplings instead of full trees. IIRC. |
| 17:18 |
Peacock |
just comment it out ;) |
| 17:18 |
Peacock |
ah theres an option, then turn it off |
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zat |
If I turn it off it will spawn grown trees. Isnt the saplings method better? |
| 17:19 |
Peacock |
no clue, alls i knows is the on_generated thing is slow :/ |
| 17:23 |
zat |
Minetest should be able to show what mods take more cpu. |
| 17:28 |
xyz |
my trollmod is evolving https://github.com/xyzz/mobs |
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xyz |
zat: freeminer has Lua profiler integrated |
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hoodedice |
Sup peeps? |
| 17:48 |
Jordach |
soap |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
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hoodedice |
Hi rubenwardy |
| 17:49 |
hoodedice |
Jordach, sup with your random renders? |
| 17:49 |
Jordach |
not a lot, bought a certain new game, might eventually spirit away |
| 17:50 |
hoodedice |
OH NO YOU WON'T |
| 17:50 |
hoodedice |
Say it ain't so, pleeees! |
| 17:52 |
Peacock |
any of the other craft guides have troubling rendering recipes that use groups instead of nodes (ie most of the default tools)? |
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kaeza |
wtf https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125069#p125069 |
| 17:55 |
rubenwardy |
He has, hoodedice; traitor |
| 17:55 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
| 17:55 |
hoodedice |
wut? |
| 17:56 |
hoodedice |
We are not into mods and shit. |
| 17:56 |
hoodedice |
We support them, but grouping mods by default is plain stupid |
| 17:56 |
PilzAdam |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8242 the commas and speeling reminds me to liquid h-craft |
| 17:57 |
PilzAdam |
eh *Likwid |
| 17:57 |
hoodedice |
PilzAdam: How did you model carts? |
| 17:57 |
PilzAdam |
hoodedice, I didnt |
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kaeza |
hoodedice, "Anything after that, and I'll come to your house and butcher you with a pickaxe." ? |
| 17:57 |
hoodedice |
oh wow |
| 17:58 |
Peacock |
kaeza the usual newbie welcoming committee i see lol |
| 17:58 |
hoodedice |
kaeza: rtfs: Read the friggin spoiler |
| 17:58 |
kaeza |
hoodedice, is that how we greet new users? |
| 17:58 |
hoodedice |
*Sarcasm* |
| 17:59 |
hoodedice |
Maybe, this is better? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8171 |
| 18:00 |
hoodedice |
Also, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124823#p124823 |
| 18:01 |
hoodedice |
PilzAdam: Who modeled it then? |
| 18:01 |
PilzAdam |
someone.... cant remember |
| 18:02 |
hoodedice |
Damn. |
| 18:02 |
kaeza |
alright, I see you TL;DR |
| 18:02 |
PilzAdam |
hoodedice, maybe look in the README? |
| 18:02 |
hoodedice |
what, kaeza? |
| 18:03 |
hoodedice |
PilzAdam: I just need to know what program they used |
| 18:03 |
PilzAdam |
blender |
| 18:03 |
hoodedice |
BTW, nigga is a banned username? |
| 18:03 |
PilzAdam |
isnt that obvious? |
| 18:03 |
hoodedice |
Oh wow, was that not obvious |
| 18:03 |
PilzAdam |
(I meant the blender thing) |
| 18:03 |
hoodedice |
(Both blender and nigga) |
| 18:04 |
hoodedice |
IRC typing lag. |
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PilzAdam |
"nigga" isnt banned by the engine |
| 18:05 |
PilzAdam |
it could be done in a mod, though |
| 18:05 |
Peacock |
wouldn't that be racist? |
| 18:05 |
hoodedice |
nigga on the IRC |
| 18:05 |
Peacock |
after all, black people call eachother nigga all the time, blocking them might seem discriminatory :P |
| 18:06 |
hoodedice |
usernname |
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Peacock |
ugh, i have to change all the default crafts that use groups if this bloody craft guide is gonna be useful lol |
| 18:10 |
hoodedice |
I never saw this before |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
saw huat> |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
*? |
| 18:11 |
hoodedice |
"It’s starting to seem to me that we need to change the Minetest distribution to contain a bunch of different subgames instead of trying to have one main game" |
| 18:11 |
hoodedice |
Peacock: #impatience |
| 18:11 |
hoodedice |
- Celeron 55 |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
thats not really gonna help modding if you include most of the games from the start |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
in the sense that people will feel less of a need to explore or create new mods |
| 18:12 |
hoodedice |
hmm |
| 18:13 |
hoodedice |
Indeed. Everyone builds their own by mixing and matching different mods |
| 18:14 |
hoodedice |
I use about 30+ mods |
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hoodedice |
Me too. I spend more time on the site than doing anything useful with the game XD |
| 18:17 |
Peacock |
in any case if i were them i'd worry less about games and more about the engine lol performance is getting shitty even on my dualcore |
| 18:17 |
hoodedice |
I used to test builds and stuff, but |
| 18:17 |
* Jordach |
sits there with a polished game that nails 60fps |
| 18:18 |
hoodedice |
I don't have a PC anymore |
| 18:18 |
hoodedice |
Jordach! Pleeeeeeeaaaase! |
| 18:18 |
hoodedice |
!rainbow Jordach Please! |
| 18:18 |
MinetestBot |
4J4o4r7d7a7c8h8 8P3l3e3ase! |
| 18:18 |
Peacock |
my FPS is fine its my cpus that are maxed out lol |
| 18:33 |
hoodedice |
!join #shadowempire |
| 18:33 |
hoodedice |
lol |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
it's ## |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on hoodedice's head |
| 18:36 |
hoodedice |
Thank you |
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hoodedice |
That makes me feel better |
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hoodedice |
Oh boy |
| 18:49 |
* Exio4 |
runs away of hoodedice |
| 18:49 |
hoodedice |
*from |
| 18:49 |
Exio4 |
doesn't matter, i'm already 174 km away! |
| 18:50 |
hoodedice |
Man. |
| 18:50 |
hoodedice |
You guys are right for one |
| 18:50 |
hoodedice |
We do need changes around here |
| 18:50 |
hoodedice |
Even VanessaE left |
| 18:50 |
Exio4 |
VanessaE: did you leave? |
| 18:50 |
hoodedice |
She did |
| 18:51 |
hoodedice |
For FM |
| 18:51 |
hoodedice |
AFAIK |
| 18:51 |
xnrand |
FM? |
| 18:52 |
hoodedice |
FreeMiner |
| 18:52 |
hoodedice |
Minetest fork |
| 18:52 |
xnrand |
oh |
| 18:52 |
Exio4 |
xnrand is stalkin' us now |
| 18:52 |
hoodedice |
lol |
| 18:52 |
Exio4 |
xy go away you are drunk |
| 18:52 |
hoodedice |
I just got his whois |
| 18:52 |
xnrand |
Exio4: to be exact, i'm sober :3 |
| 18:53 |
hoodedice |
Hmm |
| 18:53 |
Exio4 |
>german guy >sober |
| 18:53 |
hoodedice |
Lemme summon the army then |
| 18:53 |
xnrand |
although i wouldn't mind a beer |
| 18:53 |
hoodedice |
PilzAdam: sfan5 |
| 18:53 |
hoodedice |
kaeza kahrl BlockMen |
| 18:53 |
Exio4 |
wut |
| 18:53 |
hoodedice |
IRC WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!! |
| 18:53 |
* Exio4 |
nukes hoodedice |
| 18:53 |
xnrand |
hoodedice: how about no? |
| 18:53 |
Exio4 |
I won. |
| 18:53 |
hoodedice |
lol |
| 18:54 |
kaeza |
what the flying fuck now |
| 18:54 |
hoodedice |
All under control |
| 18:54 |
hoodedice |
Move along now |
| 18:55 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: http://ar.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20131227205240AAWHLTB |
| 18:56 |
hoodedice |
*Spanish* |
| 18:56 |
kaeza |
"Hola samantha eres.muy bonita, soy lesbi, me encantaia charlar, tebgo 19 anios soy un poco timida, me gusta charlar, salir a pasear. Mido 1.65." |
| 18:56 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 18:57 |
* sfan5 |
gives xnrand a beer |
| 18:57 |
xnrand |
sfan5: oh thanks a lot! |
| 18:57 |
hoodedice |
sfan5 cool as fuck as ever |
| 18:57 |
sfan5 |
hoodedice: stop disturbing me while I'm watching anime D-: |
| 18:57 |
hoodedice |
I'm so sorry |
| 18:57 |
xnrand |
*gulp* *gulp* *gulp* |
| 18:57 |
hoodedice |
For disturbing your hentai session |
| 18:57 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 18:58 |
hoodedice |
Please continue your faps |
| 18:58 |
sfan5 |
please tell me how to fap to date a live |
| 18:58 |
sfan5 |
that is not possible |
| 18:58 |
hoodedice |
(And this is why dev is slow) |
| 18:58 |
Exio4 |
lol |
| 18:59 |
hoodedice |
The one with the red hair looks hot enough |
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hoodedice |
Kotori Itsuka |
| 18:59 |
xnrand |
sfan5: you underestimate people |
| 19:00 |
Exio4 |
xnrand faps with my little pony |
| 19:00 |
sfan5 |
: |
| 19:00 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 19:00 |
Exio4 |
if he can do that, you fap at everything that moves. |
| 19:00 |
* sfan5 |
moves Exio4 |
| 19:00 |
xnrand |
Exio4: ...no. |
| 19:01 |
* Exio4 |
throws sfan5 directly to xnrand |
| 19:01 |
* xnrand |
throws... a party! |
| 19:01 |
* sfan5 |
puts xnrand on Exio4's head |
| 19:01 |
xnrand |
nooo |
| 19:01 |
xnrand |
please don't |
| 19:01 |
xnrand |
halp |
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| 19:02 |
hoodedice |
wut? |
| 19:02 |
* Exio4 |
bites xnrand |
| 19:02 |
xnrand |
sfan5 wants to put me on Exio4's ugly head :( |
| 19:03 |
* sfan5 |
puts MinetestBot on xnrand's head |
| 19:03 |
* Exio4 |
puts sfan5 on MinetestBot's kernel |
| 19:03 |
* xnrand |
collapses under the weight of that robot |
| 19:03 |
Exio4 |
you are *indirectly* on xnrand! |
| 19:03 |
hoodedice |
Hi MinetestBot |
| 19:03 |
MinetestBot |
Hello hoodedice. |
| 19:03 |
* Exio4 |
makes a hole in the ground and puts xnrand's body there |
| 19:03 |
* PenguinDad |
throws a kitten at Exio4 |
| 19:03 |
Exio4 |
MinetestBot! |
| 19:03 |
MinetestBot |
Exio4! |
| 19:04 |
* sfan5 |
puts Derpy Hooves on PenguinDad's head |
| 19:04 |
hoodedice |
The only girl with sense, MinetestBot |
| 19:04 |
* Exio4 |
throws a hoodedice at PenguinDad |
| 19:04 |
hoodedice |
wooosh |
| 19:04 |
* xnrand |
slowly backs away |
| 19:04 |
* sfan5 |
throws MinetestBot's /tmp directory at xnrand |
| 19:04 |
* xnrand |
rm -rf |
| 19:05 |
* Exio4 |
rm -rfs xnrand'S / |
| 19:05 |
Exio4 |
s* |
| 19:05 |
xnrand |
my / contains the whole universe because i'm good |
| 19:05 |
xnrand |
gg wp |
| 19:05 |
xnrand |
s/good/god/ |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
s/god/good/ |
| 19:05 |
xnrand |
s/sfan5// |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
s/xnrand// |
| 19:06 |
xnrand |
s/./xnrand /g |
| 19:07 |
sfan5 |
I may be a NULL byte now, but I can still destroy you |
| 19:07 |
* xnrand |
double dereferences sfan5 |
| 19:07 |
xnrand |
segmentation fault |
| 19:07 |
sfan5 |
/bin/kitten /dev/urandom > xnrand |
| 19:07 |
Exio4 |
http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/seems-legit-part4-18.jpeg |
| 19:07 |
* xnrand |
noms all the urandom |
| 19:08 |
Exio4 |
xnrand: i found your laptop. |
| 19:08 |
xnrand |
gj |
| 19:08 |
xnrand |
i found it too |
| 19:08 |
xnrand |
it's right here |
| 19:08 |
xyz |
urandom is limitless |
| 19:09 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: PaperCPU with 4 cores I guess |
| 19:10 |
Exio4 |
it has six dedicated GPUs |
| 19:10 |
Exio4 |
Graphics Paper Units |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
plol |
| 19:10 |
hoodedice |
lol |
| 19:10 |
Peacock |
ugh, 3rd coffee machine in two years, maybe the gods are trying to tell me something lol |
| 19:10 |
Exio4 |
stlll-better-than-my-broken-netbook |
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rubenwardy |
Capture the flag testing server at setun.net:30004 |
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sfan5 |
!up setun.net 30004 |
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MinetestBot |
setun.net:30004 is up (565ms) |
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hoodedice |
Dat ping |
| 19:14 |
hoodedice |
But I can't test, so |
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* hoodedice |
flies away |
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rubenwardy |
kaeza, PilzAdam, Jordach, VanessaE. |
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Jordach |
WHAT |
| 19:23 |
PilzAdam |
WHAT |
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Peacock |
ping all the peoples |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
can't you see i'm mining here! |
| 19:25 |
rubenwardy |
Capture the flag testing server at setun.net:30004 |
| 19:26 |
Peacock |
im holding out for the WW2 version of CPT :P |
| 19:26 |
Peacock |
*CTP |
| 19:26 |
kaeza |
capture the p3n15? |
| 19:26 |
Peacock |
woah lol |
| 19:26 |
Peacock |
*CTF |
| 19:27 |
Peacock |
like i said, coffee machine broken :P |
| 19:27 |
kaeza |
yeah...sure... <.< |
| 19:27 |
Peacock |
though if you've seen my server, i brought back one of the very first ridiculous tools i had in my first modpack :P |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
No ones doing anything |
| 19:29 |
Peacock |
CTF might be too sophisticated for MT's playerbase |
| 19:29 |
Peacock |
my server outside landclaimed areas looks like a demilitarized zone :p |
| 19:31 |
rubenwardy |
Can someone help me? |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
18 players, but none co-operating |
| 19:34 |
Peacock |
i bet they're griefing randomly? |
| 19:36 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah, although i took interact away from default privs |
| 19:37 |
Peacock |
lol well that's like soko who wanted me to install areas instead of landrush and playpen the vast majority of users so the 1 or 2 serious players could have the rest of the map :p |
| 19:37 |
Peacock |
mt players just aren't good at following the rules lol |
| 19:41 |
rubenwardy |
urh |
| 19:41 |
rubenwardy |
Can anyone join here? |
| 19:41 |
rubenwardy |
It's not just capture the flag. The name is misleading. It is more city vs city. |
| 19:41 |
Peacock |
is anyone building a city? |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 19:43 |
Peacock |
wtf, minetest.rotate_node totally bypasses protection somehow |
| 19:43 |
Peacock |
no wonder im finding tree trunks all over my compound lol |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
But it would be empire vs empire, castle vs castle gameplay |
| 19:43 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: NUL byte actually. (One 'L') |
| 19:44 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: a link to the rfc that specifies that please? |
| 19:45 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc20 |
| 19:45 |
sfan5 |
(IIRC you can use both NUL and NULL) |
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rubenwardy |
Thanks |
| 19:50 |
sfan5 |
damnit ShadowNinja |
| 19:50 |
sfan5 |
I did not expect you to find something :D |
| 19:50 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: I fixed that. |
| 19:50 |
ShadowNinja |
:-) |
| 19:52 |
Peacock |
out of curiosity, why isn't minetest.rotate located inside minetest.item_place_node? since thats what alot of protection mods override |
| 19:54 |
Peacock |
or more to the point, why wasn't dir_to_facedir simply updated? lol |
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ShadowNinja |
rotate_and_place uses on_place, it should use after_place_node to avoid duplication and having to add things like protection in two places. |
| 19:57 |
ShadowNinja |
I added pointed_thing to after_place_node for that. |
| 19:57 |
Peacock |
thats what i dont get, minetest.item_place_node already rotates the facedir nodes, and then it's done again by minetest.rotate, seems inefficient |
| 19:59 |
PilzAdam |
not everyone likes 6d facedir |
| 19:59 |
Peacock |
well minetest.rotate is already part of some nodes in default, so it seems like they're getting it either way :p |
| 20:03 |
ShadowNinja |
Some nodes shouldn't use 6D facedir, like chests, but I think the best way would be something like 6d_autorotate = true in the nodedef. |
| 20:07 |
Peacock |
that's how i did it and told V how to do it :P though i used group {place6d=1,} |
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rubenwardy|phone |
huh |
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kaeza |
huh |
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Taoki |
huh |
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rubenwardy|phone |
for some reason i have a query open with myself on irc |
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rubenwardy|phone |
which i can't close |
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trauerlicht |
rubenwardy|phone: because you like what youre saying :) |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on rubenwardy|phone's head |
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trauerlicht |
try /closethefu..window |
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rubenwardy|phone |
oh well |
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trauerlicht |
by the way, is there a known bug compiling lua on the latest version? |
| 20:34 |
* john_minetest |
puts a kitten on sfan5's head |
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* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at john_minetest |
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trauerlicht |
Lua without anything |
| 20:34 |
* john_minetest |
catches it and gives a fish to the kitten. |
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kaeza |
john_minetest, hurr |
| 20:35 |
kaeza |
he means the Lua lib |
| 20:36 |
kaeza |
trauerlicht, Minetest uses Lua 5.1, not 5.2 |
| 20:36 |
trauerlicht |
kaeza: ill try that |
| 20:37 |
kaeza |
not sure why are you using 5.2, since MT comes with 5.1 bundled in |
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sfan5 |
>3. Something that is fully floating in the air (such as a half-cut tree) should fall down but not stay floating in the air, as most of the things in the game are subject to gravity. |
| 20:50 |
sfan5 |
haha lol |
| 20:51 |
sfan5 |
only sand and gravel are subject to gravity |
| 20:51 |
sfan5 |
( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8239 ) |
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rubenwardy|phone |
he means in theory. |
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rubenwardy|phone |
ie: stone does not float in the air |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
>Never pay for a game, that's what my friends and I always agree. |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
o_O |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=125028#p125028 ) |
| 20:53 |
rubenwardy|phone |
huh |
| 20:53 |
rubenwardy|phone |
hi |
| 20:53 |
rubenwardy|phone |
uh |
| 20:53 |
sfan5 |
I bought EDGE for 0.96€ on steam, I love it |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
I don't get why you should not pay for games |
| 20:54 |
rubenwardy|phone |
i bought gate |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
that is like rubenwardy|phone shall clean my room every day and I won't give him anything in return |
| 20:54 |
rubenwardy|phone |
Gary's mod |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
<sfan5> I don't get why you should not pay for games |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
DRM, proprietary stuff, free-as-in-cost alternatives |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
better accessibility |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
>.> not every game has DRM |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
some of them |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
<sfan5> I don't get why you should not pay for games |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
you said that |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
also... what if you pay for a game you end up not liking? |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
I'm talking about the fact that the dev should get something in return |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
no refund in the vast majority of cases (and always, on steam) |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy|phone |
orange box is awesome |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
demos of games get rarer and rarer |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: portal 2? do you use windumb? |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
or, what if you pay for a game that doesn't run on your PC for various reasons? |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
you only know that after buying it... |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
you obviously buy a better pc :P |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
you can have good hardware and issues |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
if the sale isn't over yet I could maybe affort portal 2 |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
wow KSP is expensice |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
expensive* |
| 20:57 |
Calinou |
yeah, but that's not entirely accurate |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
sfan5, not everyone has a credit card |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
eg. under 18 |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
and parents don't want |
| 20:58 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: heard of paysafecard? |
| 20:58 |
rubenwardy|phone |
Calinou, can i run it.com |
| 20:58 |
Calinou |
doesn't work at a lot of places |
| 20:59 |
Calinou |
so does Minecraft |
| 20:59 |
Calinou |
so does Office, so does Photoshop, so does Windows |
| 21:00 |
sfan5 |
Windows doesn't give a great experience |
| 21:01 |
Peacock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2013 <--- missing "wielditem" |
| 21:01 |
Calinou |
sfan5, a lot of people claim that |
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rubenwardy|phone |
best game ever: stronghold 2 |
| 21:10 |
BlockMen |
sfan5, at least better than ubuntu with unity |
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sfan5 |
Windows < Ubuntu with Unity < Ubuntu without Unity/Debian/Linux Mint |
| 21:11 |
sfan5 |
I'd rather use Ubuntu w/ Unity than Windows |
| 21:12 |
BlockMen |
o.O |
| 21:12 |
BlockMen |
umm...no |
| 21:12 |
rubenwardy|phone |
#minetest is full of Linux extremists |
| 21:12 |
rubenwardy|phone |
gonna blow up Microsoft hq? |
| 21:13 |
sfan5 |
sure |
| 21:13 |
BlockMen |
unity is limiting users more than windows |
| 21:13 |
BlockMen |
so how can it be better? |
| 21:13 |
sfan5 |
anyway if you google <anime name> google suggests <anime name> <person with biggest boobs> |
| 21:14 |
Calinou |
what if you search <pony name>? |
| 21:14 |
sfan5 |
BlockMen: apt-get.. the base advantages of windows vs devian-based |
| 21:14 |
xyz |
you're watching shit |
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| 21:14 |
xyz |
stop watching shit shows |
| 21:15 |
rubenwardy|phone |
do you guys prefer Google or Microsoft? |
| 21:15 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: how should I know? PilzAdam is the pony here |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
Google, I think |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
but that's only if you can choose between the two |
| 21:15 |
xyz |
and you won't get shitty google results as well |
| 21:16 |
* sfan5 |
doesn't agree with xyz's opinion |
| 21:16 |
xyz |
wait let me check yo list |
| 21:17 |
sfan5 |
you didn't check the list before...? |
| 21:18 |
xyz |
no, I kinda hoped for it to get better |
| 21:19 |
sfan5 |
so it didn't get better? |
| 21:21 |
xyz |
I really can't judge most of the shows since I haven't watched them |
| 21:21 |
xyz |
but Chobits is good, and having S;G on hold is unacceptable |
| 21:21 |
enchilado |
Chobits! |
| 21:22 |
enchilado |
Chobits is great |
| 21:22 |
* sfan5 |
chops enchilado into bits (and bytes) |
| 21:22 |
enchilado |
:o |
| 21:22 |
enchilado |
Whyy |
| 21:23 |
sfan5 |
because I'm surprised to see you talking here :P |
| 21:23 |
enchilado |
I always talk here |
| 21:23 |
enchilado |
Well, I used to, then somehow I left the channel |
| 21:23 |
enchilado |
I'm in so many channels that I often don't notice for ages if I've accidentally left them |
| 21:24 |
enchilado |
But I remembered last night when I saw a mention of Minetest somewhere else |
| 21:24 |
sfan5 |
on reddit? |
| 21:24 |
enchilado |
No, on IRC |
| 21:25 |
sfan5 |
mhm |
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rubenwardy|phone |
question |
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kaeza |
42 |
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rubenwardy|phone |
woops |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
| 21:27 |
rubenwardy|phone |
my phone has tourettes |
| 21:27 |
enchilado |
I doubt it |
| 21:27 |
BlockMen |
also bye |
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enchilado |
Bye BlockMen |
| 21:31 |
harrison |
https://plus.google.com/107141453596010045869/posts/eZA146ha9E3 |
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trauerlicht |
i feel like warped into the past with 7kbps downloadspeed. |
| 21:39 |
specing |
proller: what happened with textures? |
| 21:39 |
proller |
updated |
| 21:39 |
specing |
also: how do I turn off snow? |
| 21:39 |
specing |
proller: but they look so shiny :( |
| 21:40 |
proller |
wait or run to place ithout snow ;) |
| 21:40 |
proller |
and yes, snow texture now bad |
| 21:40 |
specing |
can't I turn it off? |
| 21:40 |
proller |
no |
| 21:40 |
specing |
atleast the effects |
| 21:40 |
specing |
I think it is making me lag |
| 21:41 |
specing |
very much |
| 21:41 |
specing |
I am using the freeminer client |
| 21:41 |
proller |
maybe need to make optio |
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proller |
n |
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proller |
or make dynamic particles count |
| 21:42 |
zat |
lol, 25% of processing time is spent on builtin/misc_register.lua. |
| 21:42 |
specing |
pleeeeassee!!! |
| 21:42 |
zat |
The callbacks caller. |
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specing |
also: how do you prepare raw meat (e.g. venison) for eating? |
| 21:42 |
rubenwardy|phone |
bye all |
| 21:43 |
specing |
I put it in a furnace, but it didnt cook |
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specing |
(with mobf) |
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Calinou |
maybe there is no cooking definition |
| 21:44 |
specing |
D: |
| 21:44 |
specing |
Yeah, I can't seem to find any cooked meat in the unified_inventory crafting guide |
| 21:44 |
specing |
So... its useless? |
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rubenwardy|phone |
the food mod adds cooked meat and chicken soup. but nobody likes the food mod |
| 21:48 |
ShadowNinja |
zat: The callback caller itself should be fast, but that function is between nearly all C++ -> Lua calls. |
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specing |
proller: btw, where am I standing on Road? |
| 21:50 |
proller |
not very fresh ... http://minetest.setun.net/map.road/map-road.png |
| 21:50 |
proller |
you an first 10% ;) |
| 21:50 |
proller |
at |
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specing |
I could have sworen someone was ahead of me |
| 21:51 |
ShadowNinja |
proller: You should block guests and remove them. |
| 21:51 |
specing |
I saw cobbles placed in towers |
| 21:52 |
proller |
making new image... |
| 21:52 |
specing |
lets hope wheat will grow @ -29'C |
| 21:52 |
zat |
ShadowNinja: so is there an issue or its just as is? |
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proller |
ShadowNinja, NO! i improve performance using live guest players |
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specing |
someone is with me 0.o |
| 21:53 |
proller |
specing, if it grow - it bug |
| 21:53 |
specing |
damn |
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ShadowNinja |
zat: No, there's no issue. That caller was added to minimize C++ -> Lua calls and increase performance. |
| 21:54 |
specing |
how am I suppused to heal 8 hearts!?!?!? |
| 21:54 |
proller |
using fast and water no problem to travel around all road map |
| 21:54 |
proller |
but impossibe to reach Top Point |
| 21:54 |
zat |
Well ShadowNinja, I see it takes even more time than the mapgen or plant_lib functions. |
| 21:55 |
proller |
specing, maybe you die and catch survive bug |
| 21:55 |
zat |
It actually is on top of the list. |
| 21:55 |
ShadowNinja |
zat: That function itself? Or it and everything that it calls? |
| 21:55 |
zat |
The profiler only specifies the functions |
| 21:56 |
zat |
built+in/misc_register.lua:318 |
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ShadowNinja |
So it and everything that it calls most likely, in fact it calls mapgen callbacks like plants_lib, so it's impossible for it to complete faster than them. |
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proller |
specing, you finished firs demo mountain ;) |
| 21:59 |
ShadowNinja |
It's time is probably the sum of all times excluding on_place and the like, which are called directly. |
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Megaf |
Hi all |
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zat |
Well, I think lua is kind of overkill... all mods should be C/C++. |
| 22:09 |
zat |
IMHO |
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specing |
proller: your mobs are acting up |
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specing |
proller: vombie attacked me in the middle of the day |
| 22:14 |
specing |
the sun is exactly above me! |
| 22:14 |
proller |
its not my |
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specing |
proller: what is up with the temp at +1000 being > than at +0? |
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specing |
is that your setting? |
| 22:20 |
proller |
every 1000 up -3c |
| 22:20 |
proller |
10000up = ground temp -30c |
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proller |
as in real life ;) |
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specing |
... |
| 22:22 |
specing |
I was at + 500 or something and it was 14'C |
| 22:23 |
proller |
it depend on ground temp |
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hoodedice |
temp in mt? |
| 22:25 |
proller |
ground temp depend on season, day time, initial heat map |
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hoodedice |
or fm? |
| 22:26 |
specing |
proller: there is nothing in the grow function that would indicate it is temperature dependent :) |
| 22:27 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Document "wielditem" visual c3eb7fe316 2014-01-08T14:10:57-08:00 http://git.io/EMRaQQ |
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zat |
Anybody ever tried terasology? |
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ShadowNinja |
zat: I have. It's slow, but beautifull. |
| 22:47 |
zat |
ShadowNinja: I feel like drugged when playing it. |
| 22:47 |
ShadowNinja |
Heh. |
| 22:48 |
zat |
ShadowNinja: the minetest.registered_nodes["default:ice"].use_texture_alpha = false did not work. :( |
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* trauerlicht |
bye bye :) |
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hoodedice |
Blockmen |
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hoodedice |
Will you change site theme for 5.0? |
| 23:01 |
hoodedice |
oh lol, ain't here |
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proller |
specing, okay i will fix growing |
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specing |
proller: fix it so it actually grows!!! |
| 23:34 |
specing |
so slow |
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proller |
fixed |
| 23:44 |
proller |
but after restart server will apply |
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specing |
proller: can you enable areas mod so I can make a protected farm near 0,0,0? |
| 23:53 |
specing |
where its warm |
| 23:53 |
proller |
its protected |
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proller |
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/areas help said invalid command earlier |
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