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00:14 blaise so, I built a very large box.. its walls are 3 nodes thick..
00:14 blaise just to test node owner
00:14 blaise because I've been having problems with it
00:14 blaise when I logged in.. I discovered a locked chest in the very center of the room with no nodes touching it..
00:15 blaise not owned by me..
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00:33 iqualfragile @forum mods: please pm me
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00:48 blaise 00:47:22: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Could not load image "invisible.png" while building texture
00:48 blaise 00:47:22: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Creating a dummy image for "invisible.png"
00:48 blaise o.O
00:49 * blaise vibrates
00:53 blaise I'm curious about a module to give stats about users
00:53 blaise something similar to a !seen command with an eggdrop on irc ?
00:53 blaise does such a think exist?
00:54 blaise s/think/thing/
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00:59 ShadowNinja blaise: IIRC PilzAdam has a stats mod.
01:00 * blaise gets very excited
01:01 iqualfragile blaise:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8127
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01:09 iqualfragile is there some kind of sprinting mod?
01:09 katyusha iqualfragile, you could try running fast and holding down the jump button :s
01:11 kaeza iqualfragile, there was one by j4i, dunno if it's still around
01:14 kaeza meh can't find it
01:17 blaise does anyone use PilzAdams stats mod ?
01:18 blaise do I need to change both timer and timer2 ?
01:18 blaise or just timer?
01:18 blaise for making it more server preformance friendly?
01:21 * blaise pokes iqualfragile & ShadowNinja
01:22 kaeza oooh checking out my old as ass mods folder, I see many lost mods from when ompldr went poof
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01:23 ShadowNinja blaise: Check the docs or code.
01:23 blaise I've read though it, but I'm not that good of a coder...
01:24 blaise I'll try and figure it out..
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01:33 blaise I'm having some issues with the factions mod
01:33 sapier which one?
01:33 blaise factions
01:33 sapier original one or mine?
01:36 sapier blaise? the one from modstore?
01:38 blaise eh, just a sec
01:39 blaise https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3294
01:39 blaise that one
01:39 blaise I dunno if that's the wrong one..
01:40 blaise the only reason I was adding it is because it was listed as a dep for another mod.. which I actually can't remember right now
01:40 sapier that's the old one, the original author didn't answer to my request
01:40 sapier if it was animals modpack you added wrong mod
01:48 blaise great
01:49 blaise I believe it's for modf
01:49 blaise mobf I mean
01:49 sapier take the one from modstore
01:50 blaise https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/factions/ this one?
01:50 sapier yes
01:50 blaise has it shown issues with minetest-0.4.9 ?
01:51 sapier chances this will show any issues with newer versions are quite low
01:51 sapier it's amost independent of game api
01:53 blaise so I should be getting my mods from https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mods/ ?
01:54 blaise I was grabbing stuff directly from the formus..
01:54 blaise I didn't even know https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mods/ existed..
01:54 sapier is an option too but why don't you just use the in game download?
01:54 blaise from the mods link on minetests site it points directly to the forum threads.. not the mmdb
01:55 blaise sapier: I didn't know I could do that with a dedicated server..
01:55 sapier in game "mods" tab online modstore
01:55 sapier oh :-)
01:55 sapier ok you can't
01:55 blaise I would very much like a gui to manage the dedicated server.....
01:55 blaise XD
01:55 blaise I mean, I can handle myself in CLI
01:55 sapier mmdb is supposed to have all the new things  ... but I admit it isn't true right now
01:55 blaise I've been using linux since slackware first came out
01:57 blaise sapier: should I just be snatching from git?
01:57 sapier factions mod is in forum too it's just even more hard to find there ... as search dosn't work that well
01:57 blaise are the downloads git'able ?
01:57 sapier depends on mod
01:57 blaise aka cd .minetest/mods/($*) && git fetch
01:57 sapier I not recommend using git for mobf for example as it's way bigger then the zipped version
01:58 blaise hrmm
02:06 blaise sapier: you're awesome.
02:06 sapier what did I do this time?
02:07 blaise sapier: also.. is monorail a replacement for carts?
02:07 sapier yes but actually it's at least as old as carts
02:07 blaise sapier: you enlightened me to a very useful mod site I didn't know existed..
02:07 blaise sapier: was carts yours?
02:08 blaise no, it's pilzadams
02:08 blaise interesting
02:08 sapier no carts didn't work for me so I extended some experimental mod I wrote long long time ago
02:08 sapier as noone did use it monorail was burried in forum for ages
02:09 blaise has it been revamped with 0.4.8+ ?
02:09 blaise if there even is any revamping to do?
02:10 sapier someone requested it to use cart textures, I added that feature and fixed a small trackfinding bug
02:10 sapier that's all
02:11 blaise well, atleast it's not stale.. :)
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02:32 blaise random_message mod crashed my server
02:32 blaise lmao
02:32 blaise rm -r random_message
02:37 blaise sapier: are you still around?
02:38 sapier kind of
02:42 blaise sapier: is there any way I can remove a node not placed by me?
02:43 blaise aparently there is a remove stick in admin tools..
02:43 blaise is that worth getting?
02:43 blaise the download link looks shady as all get out.. :\
02:44 sapier I don't know
02:45 blaise any download link that points to some crap that wants you to pay for faster download is bad news to me
02:46 blaise looks and smells like crap
02:46 blaise mediafire = bs
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02:48 blaise this looks promising ...https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1882
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02:56 kaeza blaise, that mod is a must-have for any kind of public server
02:56 kaeza because admin pick :)
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03:03 blaise indeed..
03:04 blaise is there anything spectacular about the user name Admin ?
03:04 blaise I set name = blaise in my conf
03:04 blaise so I'm guessing the name Admin means nothing...
03:04 blaise people keep trying to log in as Admin.. there's already a user that I didn't make...
03:04 blaise it has no permissions on it.. other than the normal stuff
03:07 Hirato_ you're probably supposed to use giveme
03:17 blaise Hirato_: wuit?!
03:18 Hirato_ /giveme maptools:pick_admin_with_drops
03:19 blaise ah
03:19 blaise I don't care about the drops
03:19 blaise I got the purple pick
03:19 blaise :D
03:19 blaise kinda wish there was a hammer and sicle
03:31 blaise you know what I would like to see?
03:31 blaise a mod to prune the users that don't log in
03:32 blaise with a configurable variable to set.. like if they don't log in in 30 days to delete them off the server...
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03:49 * VanessaE peeks in
03:54 blaise :)
03:54 blaise VanessaE: you still peeking?
03:54 blaise VanessaE: if so, can you explain why there's hundreds of people using the name prefix Guest on my server?
04:02 VanessaE hi
04:02 VanessaE because they're too lazy to enter a proper name
04:02 VanessaE if you leave the username field blank the client makes it up
04:02 VanessaE I have a mod on my server to deny such names
04:12 Sokomine most servers by now have such a mod. if one server is without an anti-guest-mod, it's no wonder the guests accumulate there
04:15 blaise VanessaE: would you be willing to point me in the direction of such a mod?
04:16 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net​/viewtopic.php?pid=121980
04:16 blaise thank you very much.. :D
04:16 VanessaE this is the simple version
04:16 blaise also, is there a mod that will remove non-active users after a specific period of time?
04:16 Sokomine poor guests :)
04:16 VanessaE I use a more complex version that filters other crap like all-numeric IDs and which tries to filter things like "admin" as well as names that look like "fddswhfrhwf"
04:17 VanessaE most of it was written by kaeza and sfan5
04:17 VanessaE blaise: no, nothing like that exists, that I know
04:17 VanessaE of*
04:20 blaise kaeza: this, is cute.. lol https://forum.minetest.net/misc.php?​action=pun_attachment&item=127&a​mp;download=1&secure_str=3279f9
04:31 Peacock im pretty sure the idea to block ridiculous names came from me :P though we didn't have prejoin then, just bans :P
04:32 Peacock now im coming up with a filter for the server's chat (shout)
04:33 * Sokomine spams peacocks server with chat :-)
04:33 Peacock talking about obscene shit lol
04:34 Sokomine yes. like other servers *eg*
04:36 Peacock also, and this is more confusing, we have 10x the user than before, yet we got people going from server to server advertising other servers lol
04:36 Peacock even on the forums, (minerealms thread)
04:37 Hirato_ dick move
04:37 Hirato_ I propose immediate ding dong bannu
04:38 Peacock well if ppl wanna advertise their server they can pay me and ill make a 3x2 nodebox billboard with their texture on it lol otherwise yeah block that shit
04:41 blaise Peacock: I think that would be well encorperated with chatplus maybe ?
04:41 blaise I like having a mail system
04:42 Peacock chatplus doesn't already have a filter?
04:42 Peacock what does it do then?
04:42 blaise it allows you to ignore people
04:42 blaise and has offline mail tossing
04:43 Peacock ah well i was actually looking at maybe installing the paper mod, which would let people leave notes and such
04:43 Peacock though i need to change that one line field to text area
04:43 blaise yeah, that would be cool as well
04:44 Peacock today i was deciding if i wanted node-type money or money saved in a file...
04:44 Peacock i figured i'd be easier for shop owners if they didn't have to load each of their machines with node-money so i went with money2/vending machines
04:45 blaise :\
04:45 blaise award mod is giving me issues
04:46 blaise 04:44:23: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/m​ods/awards/triggers.lua:101: attempt to index field 'place' (a nil value)
04:46 blaise oh well
04:47 Peacock for whatever reason place wasn't defined
04:50 blaise indeed
04:52 blaise rubenwardy is the father of that code
04:53 Sokomine sounds fine, peacock. i think the account/number based money is easier to handle for players. the exchange shops could still be used for moneyless trade
04:54 Peacock well the file based money will make a few other things easier: land deeds (landrush already supports that) and banking & speculation
04:56 Sokomine banking? tell ch98 about it. so far he tried to create a bank on every server i met him on. on redcrabs server, that was a bit difficult without any money
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04:57 Peacock well with the landclaims in landrush you have collateral to seize
04:57 Peacock not to mention the player's inventories themselves
05:06 blaise wow
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06:42 rikka yo
06:42 rikka anyone here?
06:42 rikka :(
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06:56 blaise yes
06:56 blaise but you'll never know because you were to impatient to wait
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07:55 Hirato no matter how laggy minetest gets, you can at least be sure it's faster than freenode >_>
07:56 Hirato client says 120 seconds at the moment, and I believe it, chat's coming in in large bursts
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08:26 trauerlicht is there a lua-building bug on version 5.2.3?
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09:19 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org 30000
09:19 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 is up (494ms)
09:19 blaise o.O
09:20 blaise 494ms? wtf!
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10:02 john_minetest Hello everypony
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10:08 Selat Hello.
10:09 Selat How can I chage node texture in on_rightclick method?
10:09 Selat *change
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10:28 john_minetest All CPUs on 100% :D
10:28 john_minetest Selat: I think you have to set an ABM.
10:29 john_minetest I don't think that you can change a texture that way. You have to change the object.
10:29 john_minetest But I am not really sure.
10:31 Selat So for lever I need to different blocks with different ids(active and inactive)?
10:32 john_minetest Yeah.
10:32 Selat Thanks!
10:33 john_minetest it might be possible to simply rotate facedir for a lever though
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11:18 BlockMen hi
11:21 VanessaE hi
11:30 john_minetest What tool could I use to monitor memory/CPU/network usage?
11:37 VanessaE john_minetest: regarding rrdtool, I'm still learning how to use it, but this is what I've done so far:
11:38 john_minetest Have you got some script? I just want to monitor my computer quick.
11:39 VanessaE This script creates my databases first.  They give each one 1 day worth of stats, storing both max/peak values and 5 minute averages, with 1-minute intervals.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714364/
11:39 VanessaE next:
11:39 VanessaE This script populates the databases.  It is run once a minute via cron:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714374/
11:40 VanessaE And this one runs once a minute also, and is what generates the graphs you saw, from the data storeed in the databases:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6714377/
11:40 VanessaE This tutorial is what got me all the info I needed for it:  http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/tut/index.en.html
11:40 VanessaE (that's who wrote the program)
11:41 VanessaE you'll need to install a few support utils to gather the data e.g. iostat, mpstat, ifstat but you can pick and choose your preferred way to collect your stats.
11:42 VanessaE the create ^^^^^ step above only needs to be done one time, in theory.
11:42 VanessaE (though you'll probably re-create the databases multiple times until you're satisfied with what you're storing)
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11:43 VanessaE the graphs you saw are presented by a tiny bit of HTML I hand-coded in gedit to match the style of the rest of my site, nothing fancy about that.
11:44 VanessaE I'm not 100% convinced that I am collecting and processing the data exactly right, but it *seems* to work anyway
11:45 VanessaE I won't know until I get a whole day's worth of data points so I can at least visually compare it to what I was seeing with my old host (which used the same tool but who managed it without my input)
11:47 xyz john_minetest: htop, iftop
11:48 VanessaE I use the latter, if I'm logged in.  the former is so I don't have to :P
11:49 VanessaE s/former/rrdtool stuff/
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12:18 VanessaE xyz: speaking of server lists, would you mind updating http://servers.minetest.ru/ to point to digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-30004 ?  (instead of the vanessae.mine.bz address)
12:19 xyz no
12:19 xyz it's dead
12:19 VanessaE oh.  'cuz the page still loads :)
12:19 VanessaE didn't notice the "last" date heh
12:20 VanessaE that...would tend to explain the inaccurate uptime :)
12:29 xyz https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=124911#p124911
12:29 xyz HE DID IT!
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12:57 pitriss https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=125021#p125021 //spam
12:59 john_minetest I always refresh my mind with ugly fat.
13:05 pitriss john_minetest: btw if you want something precooked for monitoring your computer, try munin. we can provide you also plugins for monitoring minetest
13:06 john_minetest looks interesting
13:09 pitriss john_minetest: yep..
13:13 xyz https://enews.lenovo.com/pub/sf/FormLink?​_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DWQpglLjHJlTQGuHX2wP22zgzeX​DoO39st32zc8zbbH0jpmRAmnVXMtX%3DWQpglLjHJ​lTQGrC0oYNGvnIoKD9UL4utYLAp22LeFzbKdtf
13:15 john_minetest wow
13:15 john_minetest much link
13:16 john_minetest such funny
13:16 john_minetest very coolness
13:17 john_minetest so lenovo
13:17 john_minetest wow
13:18 pitriss john_minetest: RAM monitoring: http://pastebin.com/vd9WL43t , CPU usage http://pastebin.com/A4dW5zK9 and ingame data monitoring https://github.com/Pitriss/ove​rridemodpack/tree/master/munin
13:18 pitriss (plugins for munin)
13:19 john_minetest cool
13:21 pitriss ram and cpu usage plugins should be placed somewhere and symlinked into munin plugins directory.. symlink name should be nameofplugin_minetestport
13:22 john_minetest pitriss: I'll test it later, gtg in 5 minutes
13:22 pitriss john_minetest: okay..
13:28 john_minetest cya
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13:47 BlockMen Who want try 3rd person view for Minetest? https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=125034#p125034 :)
13:58 xyz BlockMen: nice, suggestions: remove cursor, add "front" view
14:01 BlockMen xyz, thx. cursor is present since it helps aiming correct and front view needs more changes because everything behind player is currently not rendered. but front view is something i would like to add,yeah
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14:03 xyz not sure how it helps to aim
14:04 xyz I didn't think you're supposed to play the game in that mode
14:05 BlockMen well, thats how i made this 3rdpv. at least without front view player should be able to dig or pick up something
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15:10 kaeza greetings
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15:54 sfan5 hi everyone
15:54 iqualfragile hi sfan5
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16:09 VanessaE [01-08 11:08] <VanessaE> kaeza: ^^^^^ gibberish detection FAIL :)
16:09 VanessaE [01-08 11:09] <kaeza> blame sfan5 ;)
16:09 VanessaE (actually it works pretty good most of the time :) )
16:10 * kaeza hide here too
16:10 kaeza +s
16:10 VanessaE lol
16:11 xyz gibberish detection?
16:11 VanessaE xyz: a forbidden nicks mod sfan5, kaeza, ShadowNinja and I coded.
16:12 xyz lol
16:12 xyz that's so wrong
16:12 kaeza lol why?
16:13 VanessaE gets rid of stupid shit like Guest14342, 4875427523553, dhsydsfgfdyhfs, variations of "admin", somenick5254534, and some others
16:13 VanessaE keeps people from connecting with such nicks to begin with
16:14 Calinou could also disallow bad words
16:14 VanessaE Calinou: it could, but I didn't add that functionality to my copy
16:15 VanessaE mostly just to disallow annoyances.
16:15 VanessaE if you can't be bothered to pick a meaningful name, maybe I don't want you on my server, etc/
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16:16 john_minetest Hello again
16:16 VanessaE wb
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16:23 Hirato you know what minetest needs? an equivalent of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBICLteuQs8
16:25 john_minetest God....
16:25 john_minetest The video began quite okay but then he began to sing... That audio quality... He should buy a new microphone.
16:25 VanessaE I'm glad I always watch youtube videos with the audio turned off.
16:26 Jordach VanessaE, nope to the headphone front over here
16:27 Hirato VanessaE: you missed out on the whole experience, and the whole point :P
16:27 xyz watched in 240p (because isp borked atm), 8/10
16:28 VanessaE bbl
16:28 xyz 3g is suffering
16:28 Hirato byebye
16:29 xyz need to install google analytics or something
16:29 Exio4 my 3g is somewhat decent
16:29 xyz to spy on average user age
16:29 xyz Exio4: yep, it's fine but too expensive
16:29 xyz here I have unlimited plan limited to 2 gb
16:30 xyz and then every 200 mb is 0.6$
16:30 Hirato limited unlimited
16:30 Hirato r00fles
16:30 xyz it's unlimited
16:30 xyz just after 2 gb you get terrislow connection
16:30 Hirato more like LIMITED BY YOUR CREDIT CARD WOLOLOLOL
16:30 xyz 64 kbit or so
16:31 Hirato it's not really unlimited if you can quantify the limit :3c
16:31 Exio4 cheaper than mine :P
16:31 xyz "The old culture elitists are going to hate no matter what so it's best to ignore them."
16:31 Hirato I wonder if virgin mobile ever fixed their plans
16:32 Hirato they charged per kilobyte, a gigabyte ended up at around $15000 :P
16:32 xyz — retrans
16:33 Hirato 20.5 cents a megabyte
16:33 Hirato ahahaha
16:34 xyz ah
16:34 xyz it's the same here, for mobile operators if you don't get unlimited plan
16:34 xyz or maybe not, I'm not sure how it is now
16:34 Hirato such blood sucking parasites they are
16:35 Hirato first 3 gigs, $60, any more? $210 each!
16:36 john_minetest I got great headphones and a good screen. For every video uploaded in 240px or less (with respective audio quality) a kitten has to die.
16:37 Hirato I don't always hear hissing, but when I do, you fucked up
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16:40 john_minetest AKG K 141 MkII. Home Studio/Monitoring headphones.
16:42 xyz > a kitten has to die
16:42 xyz > being that entitled to random videos kind people upload for you to youtube
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16:45 xyz oh, not bad; I've finally managed to make adblock work in "blacklist" mode
16:46 xyz seriously, it's disgusting when a website breaks if you view it without ad blockers
16:46 Hirato kittens are always the first to die
16:48 john_minetest Lol, ALL websites are broken for me.
16:48 Hirato I use noscript
16:48 john_minetest Except when I enable cross-site requests, and JS.
16:48 xyz don't forget to enable nocss and nohtml
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16:53 Exio4 noscript+requestpolicy+ghostery+adblock+https everywhere+stylish with custom CSS
16:53 Exio4 :D
16:53 xyz lel
16:53 xyz proprietary shit
16:53 xyz disgusting
16:54 Exio4 doesn't matter
16:54 xyz yeah sure
16:54 xyz "blocking" trackers with proprietary software never reviewed
16:54 xyz guess where's your data
16:56 Hirato https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-as​h3/1546051_10153727069535515_1828279857_n.jpg I know where mine is
16:56 xyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8242
16:56 xyz "It called NodeHunt you play as an, Node (Any shape like slab, stairs, etc)"
16:57 xyz you just do nothing and then you're dug
16:57 xyz Hirato: is he speaking in comic sans?
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17:02 kaeza that's not comic saaaaaaaaaans
17:03 xyz me no expert
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17:05 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
17:05 Calinou hi PilzAdam
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17:13 zat Hi Plz
17:14 Peacock anyone know which craft guide is up to date?
17:15 xyz what's with all that bloat
17:15 zat Who thinks moretrees makes a server slow?
17:16 Peacock spawning part does,
17:16 Calinou I don't use moretrees
17:16 Peacock i have it installed but they dont auto spawn you have to use the saplings
17:17 Peacock i think landrush or some other server does the same thing
17:17 zat I saw that option comes enabled by default
17:18 zat an option that makes it spawn saplings instead of full trees. IIRC.
17:18 Peacock just comment it out ;)
17:18 Peacock ah theres an option, then turn it off
17:19 zat If I turn it off it will spawn grown trees. Isnt the saplings method better?
17:19 Peacock no clue, alls i knows is the on_generated thing is slow :/
17:23 zat Minetest should be able to show what mods take more cpu.
17:28 xyz my trollmod is evolving https://github.com/xyzz/mobs
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17:29 xyz zat: freeminer has Lua profiler integrated
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17:48 hoodedice Sup peeps?
17:48 Jordach soap
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17:49 rubenwardy Hi all
17:49 hoodedice Hi rubenwardy
17:49 hoodedice Jordach, sup with your random renders?
17:49 Jordach not a lot, bought a certain new game, might eventually spirit away
17:50 hoodedice OH NO YOU WON'T
17:50 hoodedice Say it ain't so, pleeees!
17:52 Peacock any of the other craft guides have troubling rendering recipes that use groups instead of nodes (ie most of the default tools)?
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17:55 kaeza wtf https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=125069#p125069
17:55 rubenwardy He has, hoodedice; traitor
17:55 rubenwardy :P
17:55 hoodedice wut?
17:56 hoodedice We are not into mods and shit.
17:56 hoodedice We support them, but grouping mods by default is plain stupid
17:56 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8242 the commas and speeling reminds me to liquid h-craft
17:57 PilzAdam eh *Likwid
17:57 hoodedice PilzAdam: How did you model carts?
17:57 PilzAdam hoodedice, I didnt
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17:57 kaeza hoodedice, "Anything after that, and I'll come to your house and butcher you with a pickaxe." ?
17:57 hoodedice oh wow
17:58 Peacock kaeza the usual newbie welcoming committee i see lol
17:58 hoodedice kaeza: rtfs: Read the friggin spoiler
17:58 kaeza hoodedice, is that how we greet new users?
17:58 hoodedice *Sarcasm*
17:59 hoodedice Maybe, this is better? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8171
18:00 hoodedice Also, https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=124823#p124823
18:01 hoodedice PilzAdam: Who modeled it then?
18:01 PilzAdam someone.... cant remember
18:02 hoodedice Damn.
18:02 kaeza alright, I see you TL;DR
18:02 PilzAdam hoodedice, maybe look in the README?
18:02 hoodedice what, kaeza?
18:03 hoodedice PilzAdam: I just need to know what program they used
18:03 PilzAdam blender
18:03 hoodedice BTW, nigga is a banned username?
18:03 PilzAdam isnt that obvious?
18:03 hoodedice Oh wow, was that not obvious
18:03 PilzAdam (I meant the blender thing)
18:03 hoodedice (Both blender and nigga)
18:04 hoodedice IRC typing lag.
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18:04 PilzAdam "nigga" isnt banned by the engine
18:05 PilzAdam it could be done in a mod, though
18:05 Peacock wouldn't that be racist?
18:05 hoodedice nigga on the IRC
18:05 Peacock after all, black people call eachother nigga all the time, blocking them might seem discriminatory :P
18:06 hoodedice usernname
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18:08 Peacock ugh, i have to change all the default crafts that use groups if this bloody craft guide is gonna be useful lol
18:10 hoodedice I never saw this before
18:11 Peacock saw huat>
18:11 Peacock *?
18:11 hoodedice "It’s starting to seem to me that we need to change the Minetest distribution to contain a bunch of different subgames instead of trying to have one main game"
18:11 hoodedice Peacock: #impatience
18:11 hoodedice - Celeron 55
18:11 Peacock thats not really gonna help modding if you include most of the games from the start
18:12 Peacock in the sense that people will feel less of a need to explore or create new mods
18:12 hoodedice hmm
18:12 john_minetest I don't think that much people actually use vanilla.
18:13 john_minetest I don't like the bones mod much but I love mesecons.
18:13 hoodedice Indeed. Everyone builds their own by mixing and matching different mods
18:13 john_minetest Also some mobs are geat and stuff
18:13 john_minetest And pipeworks
18:14 hoodedice I use about 30+ mods
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18:17 john_minetest I only use a few in singleplayer but not playing it much. Most of the time being on VanessaE's heavily modded server, shadowninja's creative (also a lot of mods).
18:17 john_minetest and some others.
18:17 hoodedice Me too. I spend more time on the site than doing anything useful with the game XD
18:17 Peacock in any case if i were them i'd worry less about games and more about the engine lol performance is getting shitty even on my dualcore
18:17 hoodedice I used to test builds and stuff, but
18:17 * Jordach sits there with a polished game that nails 60fps
18:18 john_minetest I want some colored text.
18:18 hoodedice I don't have a PC anymore
18:18 john_minetest And I also have got 60 fps.
18:18 hoodedice Jordach! Pleeeeeeeaaaase!
18:18 john_minetest Except when I am doing shaders on and full view width with far generated world.
18:18 john_minetest Then it sometimes drops to 40
18:18 hoodedice !rainbow Jordach Please!
18:18 MinetestBot 4J4o4r7d7a7c8h8 8P3l3e3ase!
18:18 Peacock my FPS is fine its my cpus that are maxed out lol
18:33 hoodedice !join #shadowempire
18:33 hoodedice lol
18:34 Calinou it's ##
18:35 * sfan5 puts a kitten on hoodedice's head
18:36 hoodedice Thank you
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18:36 hoodedice That makes me feel better
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18:49 hoodedice Oh boy
18:49 * Exio4 runs away of hoodedice
18:49 hoodedice *from
18:49 Exio4 doesn't matter, i'm already 174 km away!
18:50 hoodedice Man.
18:50 hoodedice You guys are right for one
18:50 hoodedice We do need changes around here
18:50 hoodedice Even VanessaE left
18:50 Exio4 VanessaE: did you leave?
18:50 hoodedice She did
18:51 hoodedice For FM
18:51 hoodedice AFAIK
18:51 xnrand FM?
18:52 hoodedice FreeMiner
18:52 hoodedice Minetest fork
18:52 xnrand oh
18:52 Exio4 xnrand is stalkin' us now
18:52 hoodedice lol
18:52 Exio4 xy go away you are drunk
18:52 hoodedice I just got his whois
18:52 xnrand Exio4: to be exact, i'm sober :3
18:53 hoodedice Hmm
18:53 Exio4 >german guy >sober
18:53 hoodedice Lemme summon the army then
18:53 xnrand although i wouldn't mind a beer
18:53 hoodedice PilzAdam: sfan5
18:53 hoodedice kaeza kahrl BlockMen
18:53 Exio4 wut
18:53 hoodedice IRC WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!
18:53 * Exio4 nukes hoodedice
18:53 xnrand hoodedice: how about no?
18:53 Exio4 I won.
18:53 hoodedice lol
18:54 kaeza what the flying fuck now
18:54 hoodedice All under control
18:54 hoodedice Move along now
18:55 Exio4 kaeza: http://ar.answers.yahoo.com/questi​on/index?qid=20131227205240AAWHLTB
18:56 hoodedice *Spanish*
18:56 kaeza "Hola samantha eres.muy bonita, soy lesbi, me encantaia charlar, tebgo 19 anios soy un poco timida, me gusta charlar, salir a pasear. Mido 1.65."
18:56 kaeza lol
18:57 * sfan5 gives xnrand a beer
18:57 xnrand sfan5: oh thanks a lot!
18:57 hoodedice sfan5 cool as fuck as ever
18:57 sfan5 hoodedice: stop disturbing me while I'm watching anime D-:
18:57 hoodedice I'm so sorry
18:57 xnrand *gulp* *gulp* *gulp*
18:57 hoodedice For disturbing your hentai session
18:57 sfan5 lol
18:58 hoodedice Please continue your faps
18:58 sfan5 please tell me how to fap to date a live
18:58 sfan5 that is not possible
18:58 hoodedice (And this is why dev is slow)
18:58 Exio4 lol
18:59 hoodedice The one with the red hair looks hot enough
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18:59 hoodedice Kotori Itsuka
18:59 xnrand sfan5: you underestimate people
19:00 Exio4 xnrand faps with my little pony
19:00 sfan5 :
19:00 sfan5 :D
19:00 Exio4 if he can do that, you fap at everything that moves.
19:00 * sfan5 moves Exio4
19:00 xnrand Exio4: ...no.
19:01 * Exio4 throws sfan5 directly to xnrand
19:01 * xnrand throws... a party!
19:01 * sfan5 puts xnrand on Exio4's head
19:01 xnrand nooo
19:01 xnrand please don't
19:01 xnrand halp
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19:02 hoodedice wut?
19:02 * Exio4 bites xnrand
19:02 xnrand sfan5 wants to put me on Exio4's ugly head :(
19:03 * sfan5 puts MinetestBot on xnrand's head
19:03 * Exio4 puts sfan5 on MinetestBot's kernel
19:03 * xnrand collapses under the weight of that robot
19:03 Exio4 you are *indirectly* on xnrand!
19:03 hoodedice Hi MinetestBot
19:03 MinetestBot Hello hoodedice.
19:03 * Exio4 makes a hole in the ground and puts xnrand's body there
19:03 * PenguinDad throws a kitten at Exio4
19:03 Exio4 MinetestBot!
19:03 MinetestBot Exio4!
19:04 * sfan5 puts Derpy Hooves on PenguinDad's head
19:04 hoodedice The only girl with sense, MinetestBot
19:04 * Exio4 throws a hoodedice at PenguinDad
19:04 hoodedice wooosh
19:04 * xnrand slowly backs away
19:04 * sfan5 throws MinetestBot's /tmp directory at xnrand
19:04 * xnrand rm -rf
19:05 * Exio4 rm -rfs xnrand'S /
19:05 Exio4 s*
19:05 xnrand my / contains the whole universe because i'm good
19:05 xnrand gg wp
19:05 xnrand s/good/god/
19:05 sfan5 s/god/good/
19:05 xnrand s/sfan5//
19:06 sfan5 s/xnrand//
19:06 xnrand s/./xnrand /g
19:07 sfan5 I may be a NULL byte now, but I can still destroy you
19:07 * xnrand double dereferences sfan5
19:07 xnrand segmentation fault
19:07 sfan5 /bin/kitten /dev/urandom > xnrand
19:07 Exio4 http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uplo​ads/2013/02/seems-legit-part4-18.jpeg
19:07 * xnrand noms all the urandom
19:08 Exio4 xnrand: i found your laptop.
19:08 xnrand gj
19:08 xnrand i found it too
19:08 xnrand it's right here
19:08 xyz urandom is limitless
19:09 sfan5 Exio4: PaperCPU with 4 cores I guess
19:10 Exio4 it has six dedicated GPUs
19:10 Exio4 Graphics Paper Units
19:10 sfan5 plol
19:10 hoodedice lol
19:10 Peacock ugh, 3rd coffee machine in two years, maybe the gods are trying to tell me something lol
19:10 Exio4 stlll-better-than-my-broken-netbook
19:12 rubenwardy Capture the flag testing server at setun.net:30004
19:13 sfan5 !up setun.net 30004
19:13 MinetestBot setun.net:30004 is up (565ms)
19:13 hoodedice Dat ping
19:14 hoodedice But I can't test, so
19:14 * hoodedice flies away
19:23 rubenwardy kaeza, PilzAdam, Jordach, VanessaE.
19:23 Jordach WHAT
19:23 PilzAdam WHAT
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19:23 Peacock ping all the peoples
19:23 Jordach can't you see i'm mining here!
19:25 rubenwardy Capture the flag testing server at setun.net:30004
19:26 Peacock im holding out for the WW2 version of CPT :P
19:26 Peacock *CTP
19:26 kaeza capture the p3n15?
19:26 Peacock woah lol
19:26 Peacock *CTF
19:27 Peacock like i said, coffee machine broken :P
19:27 kaeza yeah...sure... <.<
19:27 Peacock though if you've seen my server, i brought back one of the very first ridiculous tools i had in my first modpack :P
19:28 rubenwardy No ones doing anything
19:29 Peacock CTF might be too sophisticated for MT's playerbase
19:29 Peacock my server outside landclaimed areas looks like a demilitarized zone :p
19:31 rubenwardy Can someone help me?
19:34 rubenwardy 18 players, but none co-operating
19:34 Peacock i bet they're griefing randomly?
19:36 rubenwardy Yeah, although i took interact away from default privs
19:37 Peacock lol well that's like soko who wanted me to install areas instead of landrush and playpen  the vast majority of users so the 1 or 2 serious players could have the rest of the map :p
19:37 Peacock mt players just aren't good at following the rules lol
19:41 rubenwardy urh
19:41 rubenwardy Can anyone join here?
19:41 rubenwardy It's not just capture the flag. The name is misleading. It is more city vs city.
19:41 Peacock is anyone building a city?
19:43 rubenwardy no
19:43 Peacock wtf, minetest.rotate_node totally bypasses protection somehow
19:43 Peacock no wonder im finding tree trunks all over my compound lol
19:43 rubenwardy But it would be empire vs empire, castle vs castle gameplay
19:43 ShadowNinja sfan5: NUL byte actually. (One 'L')
19:44 sfan5 ShadowNinja: a link to the rfc that specifies that please?
19:45 ShadowNinja sfan5: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc20
19:45 sfan5 (IIRC you can use both NUL and NULL)
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19:49 rubenwardy Thanks
19:50 sfan5 damnit ShadowNinja
19:50 sfan5 I did not expect you to find something :D
19:50 ShadowNinja Peacock: I fixed that.
19:50 ShadowNinja :-)
19:52 Peacock out of curiosity, why isn't minetest.rotate located inside minetest.item_place_node? since thats what alot of protection mods override
19:54 Peacock or more to the point, why wasn't dir_to_facedir simply updated? lol
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19:56 ShadowNinja rotate_and_place uses on_place, it should use after_place_node to avoid duplication and having to add things like protection in two places.
19:57 ShadowNinja I added pointed_thing to after_place_node for that.
19:57 Peacock thats what i dont get, minetest.item_place_node already rotates the facedir nodes, and then it's done again by minetest.rotate, seems inefficient
19:59 PilzAdam not everyone likes 6d facedir
19:59 Peacock well minetest.rotate is already part of some nodes in default, so it seems like they're getting it either way :p
20:03 ShadowNinja Some nodes shouldn't use 6D facedir, like chests, but I think the best way would be something like 6d_autorotate = true in the nodedef.
20:07 Peacock that's how i did it and told V how to do it :P though i used group {place6d=1,}
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20:27 rubenwardy|phone huh
20:28 kaeza huh
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20:28 john_minetest huh
20:28 Taoki huh
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20:29 rubenwardy|phone for some reason i have a query open with myself on irc
20:30 rubenwardy|phone which i can't close
20:30 trauerlicht rubenwardy|phone: because you like what youre saying :)
20:30 * sfan5 puts a kitten on rubenwardy|phone's head
20:31 trauerlicht try /closethefu..window
20:31 rubenwardy|phone oh well
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20:32 trauerlicht by the way, is there a known bug compiling lua on the latest version?
20:34 john_minetest LuaJIT?
20:34 * john_minetest puts a kitten on sfan5's head
20:34 * sfan5 throws a kitten at john_minetest
20:34 trauerlicht Lua without anything
20:34 * john_minetest catches it and gives a fish to the kitten.
20:35 john_minetest trauerlicht: Lua isn't compiled. It is script and interpreted.
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20:35 kaeza john_minetest, hurr
20:35 kaeza he means the Lua lib
20:36 kaeza trauerlicht, Minetest uses Lua 5.1, not 5.2
20:36 trauerlicht kaeza: ill try that
20:37 kaeza not sure why are you using 5.2, since MT comes with 5.1 bundled in
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20:50 sfan5 >3. Something that is fully floating in the air (such as a half-cut tree) should fall down but not stay floating in the air, as most of the things in the game are subject to gravity.
20:50 sfan5 haha lol
20:51 sfan5 only sand and gravel are subject to gravity
20:51 sfan5 ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8239 )
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20:51 rubenwardy|phone he means in theory.
20:52 rubenwardy|phone ie: stone does not float in the air
20:52 john_minetest Well, real physics _could_ be implemented
20:52 sfan5 >Never pay for a game, that's what my friends and I always agree.
20:52 sfan5 o_O
20:52 sfan5 ( https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=125028#p125028 )
20:52 john_minetest I don't pay for games very often.
20:53 rubenwardy|phone huh
20:53 john_minetest Since I simply play free games.
20:53 john_minetest But when I like a game that costs something I buy it. Pirating is just shit.
20:53 rubenwardy|phone hi
20:53 rubenwardy|phone uh
20:53 sfan5 I bought EDGE for 0.96€ on steam, I love it
20:54 sfan5 I don't get why you should not pay for games
20:54 rubenwardy|phone i bought gate
20:54 sfan5 that is like rubenwardy|phone shall clean my room every day and I won't give him anything in return
20:54 rubenwardy|phone Gary's mod
20:54 Calinou <sfan5> I don't get why you should not pay for games
20:54 Calinou DRM, proprietary stuff, free-as-in-cost alternatives
20:55 Calinou better accessibility
20:55 sfan5 >.> not every game has DRM
20:55 Calinou some of them
20:55 john_minetest I bought KSP, portal, Edna&Harvey - Special edition, tiny&big and a few more.
20:55 Calinou <sfan5> I don't get why you should not pay for games
20:55 john_minetest *portal2
20:55 Calinou you said that
20:55 Calinou also... what if you pay for a game you end up not liking?
20:55 sfan5 I'm talking about the fact that the dev should get something in return
20:55 Calinou no refund in the vast majority of cases (and always, on steam)
20:56 rubenwardy|phone orange box is awesome
20:56 john_minetest Calinou: It is _your_ fault if you buy a game you don't like
20:56 Calinou demos of games get rarer and rarer
20:56 sfan5 john_minetest: portal 2? do you use windumb?
20:56 john_minetest It is like buying a bread. When you don't like it you should not have bought it.
20:56 Calinou or, what if you pay for a game that doesn't run on your PC for various reasons?
20:56 john_minetest sfan5: I was using windumb. Now on linux.
20:56 Calinou you only know that after buying it...
20:56 sfan5 you obviously buy a better pc :P
20:56 Calinou you can have good hardware and issues
20:57 john_minetest Calinou: If you buy milk and in the end you realize you are lactose intolerant, you can't simply give it back.
20:57 sfan5 if the sale isn't over yet I could maybe affort portal 2
20:57 john_minetest Calinou: You can look in forums if that game works with your hardware.
20:57 sfan5 wow KSP is expensice
20:57 sfan5 expensive*
20:57 Calinou yeah, but that's not entirely accurate
20:58 Calinou sfan5, not everyone has a credit card
20:58 Calinou eg. under 18
20:58 john_minetest sfan5: It is really worth it.
20:58 Calinou and parents don't want
20:58 sfan5 Calinou: heard of paysafecard?
20:58 rubenwardy|phone Calinou, can i run it.com
20:58 john_minetest KSP is evolving. Just look how much games like the sims cost.
20:58 Calinou doesn't work at a lot of places
20:58 john_minetest KSP gives you a great experience and all future updates.
20:59 Calinou so does Minecraft
20:59 Calinou so does Office, so does Photoshop, so does Windows
21:00 sfan5 Windows doesn't give a great experience
21:01 Peacock https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2013 <--- missing "wielditem"
21:01 Calinou sfan5, a lot of people claim that
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21:06 rubenwardy|phone best game ever: stronghold 2
21:10 BlockMen sfan5, at least better than ubuntu with unity
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21:11 sfan5 Windows < Ubuntu with Unity < Ubuntu without Unity/Debian/Linux Mint
21:11 sfan5 I'd rather use Ubuntu w/ Unity than Windows
21:12 BlockMen o.O
21:12 BlockMen umm...no
21:12 rubenwardy|phone #minetest is full of Linux extremists
21:12 rubenwardy|phone gonna blow up Microsoft hq?
21:13 sfan5 sure
21:13 BlockMen unity is limiting users more than windows
21:13 BlockMen so how can it be better?
21:13 sfan5 anyway if you google <anime name> google suggests <anime name> <person with biggest boobs>
21:14 Calinou what if you search <pony name>?
21:14 sfan5 BlockMen: apt-get.. the base advantages of windows vs devian-based
21:14 xyz you're watching shit
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21:14 xyz stop watching shit shows
21:15 rubenwardy|phone do you guys prefer Google or Microsoft?
21:15 sfan5 Calinou: how should I know? PilzAdam is the pony here
21:15 Calinou Google, I think
21:15 Calinou but that's only if you can choose between the two
21:15 xyz and you won't get shitty google results as well
21:16 * sfan5 doesn't agree with xyz's opinion
21:16 xyz wait let me check yo list
21:17 sfan5 you didn't check the list before...?
21:18 xyz no, I kinda hoped for it to get better
21:19 sfan5 so it didn't get better?
21:21 xyz I really can't judge most of the shows since I haven't watched them
21:21 xyz but Chobits is good, and having S;G on hold is unacceptable
21:21 enchilado Chobits!
21:22 enchilado Chobits is great
21:22 * sfan5 chops enchilado into bits (and bytes)
21:22 enchilado :o
21:22 enchilado Whyy
21:23 sfan5 because I'm surprised to see you talking here :P
21:23 enchilado I always talk here
21:23 enchilado Well, I used to, then somehow I left the channel
21:23 enchilado I'm in so many channels that I often don't notice for ages if I've accidentally left them
21:24 enchilado But I remembered last night when I saw a mention of Minetest somewhere else
21:24 sfan5 on reddit?
21:24 enchilado No, on IRC
21:25 sfan5 mhm
21:26 rubenwardy|phone question
21:26 kaeza 42
21:26 rubenwardy|phone woops
21:26 PilzAdam bye
21:27 rubenwardy|phone my phone has tourettes
21:27 enchilado I doubt it
21:27 BlockMen also bye
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21:27 enchilado Bye BlockMen
21:31 harrison https://plus.google.com/10714145​3596010045869/posts/eZA146ha9E3
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21:37 trauerlicht i feel like warped into the past with 7kbps downloadspeed.
21:39 specing proller: what happened with textures?
21:39 proller updated
21:39 specing also: how do I turn off snow?
21:39 specing proller: but they look so shiny :(
21:40 proller wait or run to place ithout snow ;)
21:40 proller and yes, snow texture now bad
21:40 specing can't I turn it off?
21:40 proller no
21:40 specing atleast the effects
21:40 specing I think it is making me lag
21:41 specing very much
21:41 specing I am using the freeminer client
21:41 proller maybe need to make optio
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21:41 proller n
21:42 proller or make dynamic particles count
21:42 zat lol, 25% of processing time is spent on builtin/misc_register.lua.
21:42 specing pleeeeassee!!!
21:42 zat The callbacks caller.
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21:42 specing also: how do you prepare raw meat (e.g. venison) for eating?
21:42 rubenwardy|phone bye all
21:43 specing I put it in a furnace, but it didnt cook
21:43 specing (with mobf)
21:44 Calinou maybe there is no cooking definition
21:44 specing D:
21:44 specing Yeah, I can't seem to find any cooked meat in the unified_inventory crafting guide
21:44 specing So... its useless?
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21:46 rubenwardy|phone the food mod adds cooked meat and chicken soup. but nobody likes the food mod
21:48 ShadowNinja zat: The callback caller itself should be fast, but that function is between nearly all C++ -> Lua calls.
21:49 specing proller: btw, where am I standing on Road?
21:50 proller not very fresh ... http://minetest.setun.net/map.road/map-road.png
21:50 proller you an first 10% ;)
21:50 proller at
21:51 specing I could have sworen someone was ahead of me
21:51 ShadowNinja proller: You should block guests and remove them.
21:51 specing I saw cobbles placed in towers
21:52 proller making new image...
21:52 specing lets hope wheat will grow @ -29'C
21:52 zat ShadowNinja: so is there an issue or its just as is?
21:52 proller ShadowNinja, NO! i improve performance using live guest players
21:52 specing someone is with me 0.o
21:53 proller specing, if it grow - it bug
21:53 specing damn
21:54 ShadowNinja zat: No, there's no issue.  That caller was added to minimize C++ -> Lua calls and increase performance.
21:54 specing how am I suppused to heal 8 hearts!?!?!?
21:54 proller using fast and water no problem to travel around all road map
21:54 proller but impossibe to reach Top Point
21:54 zat Well ShadowNinja, I see it takes even more time than the mapgen or plant_lib functions.
21:55 proller specing, maybe you die and catch survive bug
21:55 zat It actually is on top of the list.
21:55 ShadowNinja zat: That function itself?  Or it and everything that it calls?
21:55 zat The profiler only specifies the functions
21:56 zat built+in/misc_register.lua:318
21:57 ShadowNinja So it and everything that it calls most likely, in fact it calls mapgen callbacks like plants_lib, so it's impossible for it to complete faster than them.
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21:59 proller specing, you finished firs demo mountain ;)
21:59 ShadowNinja It's time is probably the sum of all times excluding on_place and the like, which are called directly.
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22:01 Megaf Hi all
22:01 john_minetest http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/​newsfeed/000/015/157/633627321328648​778-barrelrollyouredoingitwrong.jpg
22:01 john_minetest Hi Megaf
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22:09 zat Well, I think lua is kind of overkill... all mods should be C/C++.
22:09 zat IMHO
22:12 john_minetest zat: Go to minetest-classic
22:12 john_minetest darkrose and other people are doing stuff with C++ there and maybe they will make modding with C++ object files one day.
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22:14 specing proller: your mobs are acting up
22:14 specing proller: vombie attacked me in the middle of the day
22:14 specing the sun is exactly above me!
22:14 proller its not my
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22:19 specing proller: what is up with the temp at +1000 being > than at +0?
22:19 specing is that your setting?
22:20 proller every 1000 up   -3c
22:20 proller 10000up =  ground temp -30c
22:21 proller as in real life ;)
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22:22 specing ...
22:22 specing I was at + 500 or something and it was 14'C
22:23 proller it depend  on ground temp
22:25 hoodedice temp in mt?
22:25 proller ground temp depend on season, day time, initial heat map
22:26 hoodedice or fm?
22:26 specing proller: there is nothing in the grow function that would indicate it is temperature dependent :)
22:27 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Document "wielditem" visual c3eb7fe316 2014-01-08T14:10:57-08:00 http://git.io/EMRaQQ
22:37 zat Anybody ever tried terasology?
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22:45 ShadowNinja zat: I have.  It's slow, but beautifull.
22:47 zat ShadowNinja: I feel like drugged when playing it.
22:47 ShadowNinja Heh.
22:48 zat ShadowNinja: the minetest.registered_nodes["de​fault:ice"].use_texture_alpha = false did not work. :(
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22:55 * trauerlicht bye bye :)
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22:59 hoodedice Blockmen
23:00 hoodedice Will you change site theme for 5.0?
23:01 hoodedice oh lol, ain't here
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23:26 proller specing, okay i will fix growing
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23:34 specing proller: fix it so it actually grows!!!
23:34 specing so slow
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23:44 proller fixed
23:44 proller but after restart server will apply
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23:53 specing proller: can you enable areas mod so I can make a protected farm near 0,0,0?
23:53 specing where its warm
23:53 proller its protected
23:53 proller ups enabled
23:54 specing /areas help said invalid command earlier
23:54 specing on Road
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